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/ourguy/
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>>172622914
This pic suddenly reminds me of the Summer Jeanne speculations last summer in GBF and now I just realize why its an actual possibility, huh
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first
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>>172622946>>172622946>>172622946

Updated art link where?
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WHY DOES FROZEN MAMMOTH NEVER WORK IN RAMP JESUS IT LOOKS SO GOOD ON PAPER
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>>172622903
True. It was always also better to go first in Seraph mirrors since you're prone to auto-winning unless they have Odin on t8. Moreover, I have a 80% winrate on Dshift mirrors going first.

It's not that strange, really. Going second is better when the wincons aren't so clear and the matchup is unclear such as with T2.
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>>172622995
here retard
https://mega.nz/#!DRwEyKqB!7XlYLtKQZ1pkmZHZxPMIllK8g6jXv-yWUy-SnF6JIs8
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Only Walfrid can bring the fight to the commie hordes.
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I hope the meta stabilizes soon, I fucking hate going up against like six different decks. How am I supposed to try to counter anything like that, it's just luck based bullshit
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has anyone had any luck with cannon memes? the more I play it the more I'm convinced it's shit.

>turn 5 do nothing
>bad against aggro
>shut down by bahamut
>shut down by lightning blast
>shut down by aegis
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>>172623042
Thank you
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Friendly reminder to ignore the namefag for a nice and comfy thread.
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>>172623081
No it and commander banner are shit, maybe less when gawain is released
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There is no way this is okay

Its our time to shine shadowbros, get cucked swordfags and dragonfags
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Anybody doing well with aggrorune/mutagenic bolts/aegis?
Also new D-Shift is just adding Lous, right? What did you cut?
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>>172623050
>8PP

Good luck about that.
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>>172623069
>How am I supposed to try to counter anything like that, it's just luck based bullshit
You can't. It has been designed to be this way. If you want less RNG, you shouldn't be playing card games which are inherently about randomness and should perhaps seek out more skill-based decks where practice can take you far and you can actually have bigger room to adapt for bad matchups. Basically, combat reaction-based games with matchups like pvp arena action, shooting or fighting games.
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>>172623069
>I fucking hate going up against like six different decks.
DIVERSITY
Isn't this what everyone asked for?

>>172622912
>1x Lightning Blast
>2x Frozen Mammoth
Uhhh
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>>172623050
We are getting Walfrid sleeves right? He will be the only one who can compete with Magisa.
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Lets be real, Tempest of gods was a mistake
>Midrange archetype is straight up dead, it was killed by shitload of wards and heals printed in this expansion
>Cards like Daria and alberto went from 100 to 0 in spawn of two seconds
>Dragon got his dick sucked harder than anything else with le ebin ramp and heal legendary
>Forest on other hand got some absolutely retardedly garbage cards that dont do shit and moved to joke tier
>In fact most of matches now are literally dick contest (whoever has greedier deck wins)
>Heavenly aegis is straight up retarded card that should not exist
>Blood snakes are simply broken thanks to blood moon and belphegor
>Hyper aggro gets shit on by retarded amount of heals and wards

Jesus christ how did cygajews fucked up so hard?
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>>172623005
You really want to know? In Ramp, you need to spend your early turns ramping up anyway or establishing defenses and Frozen Mammoth basically does nothing until 2-3 turns later

The immense value later does not matter if you cant survive early
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someone post cblood deck
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>>172623242
sent ;)
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>>172623147
commander banner seemed ok when I was testing it. aside from gawain I think the best new sword card is luminous mage.
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>>172623050
we will crush sword pig dogs like watermelons!
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>Dragon with Purgatory and SahaLucy

Lucifer I can understand but ????????????
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>>172623223
>>1x Lightning Blast
>>2x Frozen Mammoth
>Uhhh
Post a good list
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>>172623149
Could you please post your decklist?
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>>172623223
Only idiots and casuals want diversity
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>>172623242
;)
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>Darkness Evolved
>get every emblem except the one I really want (Pascale)
>Rage of Bahamut
>get every emblem except the one I really want (Nep)
>Tempest of the Gods
>get every emblem...
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>>172623259
thanks
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>>172623230
Nice reddit post friend
Upvoted so I can follow the comment thread
Make sure to buy packs from the new expansion in three months
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God damn aggro necro is fucking insane now. I don't really feel bad for not getting any of the essential shadow cards right now.
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Get fucked aegis shitters
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>>172622914
Weekend Tourney #4 today:
http://challonge.com/en/tournaments/signup/W8jGossAMz
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>>172623310
Fuck, I want this card purely for the emblem.
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>>172623292
If a deck exists, than somebody has tried to put PtP in it.
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>>172623202
>>172623069
>I fucking hate going up against like six different decks

And all with different flavours of bullshit combos or finishers, right?
That's basically the Modern Format in MTG.
Except you're not playing with $500 - $1000 decks thought.

I see very clear that the Devs vision was to create a "soft Modern" format with this expansion, with less floodgates and no counter spells.
I play MTG in real life so Im used to it, but I understand that people that have never played in such formats might feel really out of place.
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>>172623364
what's wrong with her mouth
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has anyone tried using arriet in frog meme decks? I didn't open any and I'm running low on vials.
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The current state of forestcraft: losing to runecraft decks running goblin
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>>172623005
I'LL GIVE YOU A HINT.

YOU'RE LOSING TEMPO TO RAMP
YOU'RE LOSING TEMPO TO DROP A MAMMOTH
THEY'RE BUSY KILLING YOU

>>172623081
When I get another I'll give it a whirl with 3 ironwrought fortresses so I can contest aggro and boost officers to contest the board and kill fast enough to beat out aegis.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/31/shadowverses-head-honcho-on-slowing-the-meta-down

IGN: Let’s talk a little about Tempest of the Gods and the direction gameplay is going. What do you and the rest of the team want to change with the release of ToG? What are the key things with this expansion?

>Yuito Kimura: The game will be a lot slower than now and it will take more turns to finish the game, so different cards will see more play compared to the current environment. When it comes to the moment when you actually manage to finish the game, the actual impact will be bigger, is what we’re expecting. And we have a couple of cards that utilise the class mechanics, like Necromancy and Vengeance, so it’ll be important to effectively use your class’ unique mechanics.

IGN: So is this shift to a slower style of game a direct response to the team feeling the game was too fast? Or is it just time for a change? To have a different direction?

>Yuito Kimura: It was more the latter, we wanted to introduce something new, and matches that take a long time is not something we wanted from the start. It’ll be harder for new players to start playing if it takes too long to play. This is something that we had in mind from the very start – to make the game quite fast-paced in the beginning, and then later on introduce more slower cards and abilities.

IGN: A lot of people say that control decks are more difficult to play, but I personally think there are strong arguments that aggro can be just as difficult. Is there going to be a place for aggro in this meta?

>Yuito Kimura: Not so much. The overall pace might be slower, but there will be some aggro decks that survive through it.

IGN: The reactions to some of the card reveals online have been pretty crazy. Heavenly Aegis and Lightning Blast, for instance.

>Yuito Kimura: But once you actually play those cards, you realise that they aren’t as super strong as you expected them to be.

>Aegis not strong

Uh Shadowbabs?
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>>172623463
nothing, but her head is kind of big
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>>172623451
Do not reply to the namefag
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So if I use vials to create a Legendary, will I still get the icon?
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>>172623491
>lightning blast
>not strong
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>>172623346
Aggro is dead outside of Shadow and only because of sticky followers. You better start investing on midrange decks because the game is pushing for longer games now and the odds are against you.
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Would anyone help me with the 20 private match achievement? Need 16 more complete games to finish it.

Room number: 99043

4/20 matches completed

First to go wins and the Second to go loses.
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>>172623491
Aegis is fucking useless if you win before them. Simple strategy
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>>172623491
They're not wrong. The card itself isn't strong. Haven, however, has always been the best control deck with great utility.
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>>172623293
My list is a standard one.
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>>172623346
Its only insanse if you get Prince Catacomb on 3 and even then you can still get fucked over by wards.

Midrange is better.
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>>172623381
Us and everyone else. It's not like anybody actually wants to play her.
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Fuck Have and Fuck Aegis.

This deck has so many board floods that sometimes they just run out board wipes.

After two florals, a Luminous and Otohime, this Haven just didn't have anything left to stop the Walfrid play.
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>>172623491
I remember reading that. It was interesting and I wish they did these more often.
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>>172623451
Except Modern didn't change that often (until wizards went full retard with the banlist) and MTG has a sideboard.
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>>172623069
Play midrange or accept rock paper scissors. Welcome to card games.
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Are there going to be more alternative cards like fem quickblader and AGRS?
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>>172623491
>admits Owlcat is only for memes
>still doesn't make a owlcat sleeve
What the fuck Cygames
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Quick question, has anyone tried out aegis+that card that gives it +2 and ward? I'm assuming it doesn't work, but I'd figure I'd ask since I didnt' hear anyone try it.
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>>172623689
Midrange was killed by this expansion though
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>>172623346
same here. feels good mang. the deck didn't even change that many cards.
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Trying to make a Laura Bloodcraft deck, but it just ended up looking like my Snek deck without the Sneks. Makes me question why I would just take out my soft win condition for no reason.
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>>172623732
I thought it died last expansion.
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>>172623731
Don't have an aegis to use with power of protection

>>172623761
Baph-azazel+laura+razory otk
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Does anyone have a Wolfbolt deck?
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I fucking hate Grimnir, it's such a bullshit card
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>>172623784
No I was mainly playing midrange dragon and midrange blood in ROB and I was doing just fine against most decks, but now they are useless, you cannot do anything against retarded overpowered ramp dragon and control blood on steroids.
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Pulled an animated Heavenly Aegis and Minthe from all the free packs. Any meme I can do with these, and any other Legendary I should craft right now?
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>>172623797
No. Literally nobody in 3 months has a wolf deck. Nowhere in existence has one.

>>172623828
Yeah, Everyone's a worse haven now. It was bad enough having to play around 3 def, now you have to play around 4 def with is also most of your midrange followers that you use to use up all your pp with
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>>172623828
Turn 10 do everything
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>>172623451
I did not say I did not wish to face those decks. I was merely telling that Anonymous Person that he couldn't play one deck to counter everything. He needs to embrace matchups. I invite you to re-read his comment and mine as to get a better grasp on the conversation that ensued.
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>>172623789
What would the rest of the deck be structured like though? Aggro backup plans or pure control?
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>>172623784
>I thought it died last expansion.
""""""""Midrange""""""""" sword was virtually the most consistent deck.
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>>172623463
what's wrong with her dragon's mouth
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How do I play Nep now? Everything cucks her.
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>>172623914
>your board has to constantly teeter above 5 health or you get cleared by chuuni man of winds
The damage it does to your face just makes it even worse
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>>172622914
Tell me anon, have you tried the spiciest meme in the town?

https://twitter.com/darkness_mare/status/847348458071572482
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>>172623230
t. knife ear
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>>172623364
Is this Forte-chan apprentice?
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>>172623583
Thanks, Urias!


Room number: 99043

5/20 matches completed

First to go wins and the Second to go loses.
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post >yfw you saw Grimnir doing face damage with its enhance
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>play T2 to get a feel of the new cards
>Had to drop Owlcat for tempo
>Sword runs his 1/1 knight into Owlcat, only for him to get eaten
>cue a pause before he exclaims his surprise

I see people are still getting used
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>>172623906
You know what i meant faggot
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>>172623491
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I kinda like early game expansion.

Everyone been tyring new meme deck minus previous expansion deck and I can't even be mad when I'm losing.
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>be a datamining anon
>had a whole day with no connectivity and could only post that one post in that 24+ hours
>already burned through multiple threads in a single day
>shadow is actually alive

What happened?
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I love how low IQ Swordfags are and need to wait months for a netdeck to come out when a new expansion drops.
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>>172623949
Probably control. If you include meme peddler, you can black mask him for 6pp, baphomet him for a mary combo. Something's gonna stick and kill them.

>>172624106
>tfw your first 12 dmg grimnir of the season

>>172624086
Says room id is invalid. You still there?

>>172624143
And you know what I meant. Go look them up and go from there.
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>>172624220
Skeletons happened
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>>172624052
What a fucking meme.
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>>172624224
>>172624224
>Says room id is invalid. You still there?

Yes, Room says, 99043. If worst comes to worst, I could just refresh and start a new private room.
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fug.
Cerb got cut off.
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Get rekt sword. Dirt rune is unga now.
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>>172624010
shadow can only aggro now
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>10 turns 0 frogs
>have to kill with a fucking ninja master
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>>172624186
Don't have the deck but I like attendant over skele knight. People are allergic to hitting him and maybe othrus will force them to trade at a loss for a stronger payoff

>>172624220
It's early post-release

>>172624285
Still says it doesn't exist
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>>172624301
Dirt Unga is actually terrifying, I almost died as Dragon despite the massive amount of heals
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>>172624336
THE CULMINATION OF NINJUTSU
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>>172623723
It's still early, Hamsa took months to get his sleeves.
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>>172624363

I think it will be the best rune deck this expac.

I totally underestimated Mage of Nightfall.
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>>172624336
Tech'd 2 arriet for half off lethal t7?
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>>172624347
>Still says it doesn't exist
Cygames, pls.


Room number: 12138

5/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses.
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>>172624414
Pascale's hitting hard yet?
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>>172624289
But there are Cerbs in both builds? Doesn't Death Breath eat too many shadows? Personally, I totally underestimated the amount of shadows our Lord eats.
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>>172624414
T1 scrap t2. Illusionist is also neato as hell.
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>>172624301
post it
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>>172623491
9 P P
P
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D O
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N O T H I N G
O
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Lightning blast is pretty crazy though.
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>>172624463
Thanks, Urias!


Room number: 43232

6/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses.
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>>172623491
>Yuito Kimura: …I’d like to not mention a particular name here, but there is a legendary card that people aren’t talking so much about right now. I think it’s pretty strong, but I also don’t want to say any names, in case it turns out to be not so strong! (Laughs.)
Dark Jeanne confirmed for tier 1 bois
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>6 winstreaks broke because of this kind of shit

The worst feeling.
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

HAG FUCKING DROPPED A BACK TO BACK TEST OF STRENGTH WHEN AEGIS WAS OUT AND IT FORCED ME TO ATTACK AEGIS

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCKING SHIT CYGAMES. YOU LITERALLY CANNOT FUCKING WIN THE GAME THEN? HOLY SHIT FUCK THIS COMPANY
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>>172624675
I actually think she's good. Like really good. Not S tier like the other legendaries. She's around A tier for sure.
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literally how do you go 5-0 as Shadowcraft in take two now, its literally just all aggroshit

Even Havencraft can run you over by turn 6 or 7
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The Battle of Stalingrad (1942, color)
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>>172624146
i've seen multiple atomeme builds, a holy bowman kel otk deck, a storm-elana hybrid with kel, unga dirt, aggro rune with rats and melvie, azazel otk blood, multiple pure vengeance blood ft soul dealers, some guy tutoring medusas, cannon memes, ambush frog memes, and some others today alone.

it's refreshing after months of daria and """""""midrange"""""" sword.
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>>172624703
It's DE again. Better start tech Execution again.
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>>172624703
This is what I was saying the whole time.

Only ungashitters and Dshitters thought Aegis was a dead card in the first place.
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>>172624628
xcjq is the deck code.
Still experimenting so its not afinal build.
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>play against haven as shadow
>banish
>banish
>banish
>banish
>themis
>themis
>themis
>grimnir
>top deck lethal with Cerb

Can't banish all the skelies.
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>>172624672
Thanks, Forte!


Room number: 22750

7/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses.
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>>172624789
Same, we need mass banish to kill fucking commies.

Also, what do you think about swapping out the Suns for triple Grimnir?
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>>172624789
>Do what you must I have 3x Princes, 3x Breath, 3x Zombie Party, 3x Thane and 3x Eachtar
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>>172623491
Why they said the westerners are tryhard.
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>>172624675
If its Dark Jeanne, she is useful in Take 2 as far as I can see

Haven's followers tend to be higher def but lower attack but if you use Dark Jeanne, then suddenly they hit very hard on top of your board getting cleared

I have won some T2 games using Dark Jeanne through surprise lethal, it can be useful, the problem is making a deck that works
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>>172624880
Because it's true.
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>>172624880
Just take a look at the past few threads, it feels like most of the thread is playing unga shadow.
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>>172624871
What if Haven had an amulet that could banish all followers below 2hp?
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>>172624936
>nip on top master ranking

Bunch of lies.
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Heavenly Cockblocker
Neutral 1PP 0/1
Ward
Fanfare: This card gains the abilities of an enemy follower that costs 9 play points or more.
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>>172623491
>is there going to be a place for aggro
>lmao no fuck cheap decks
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>>172624880
>be jap
>play shadowverse on the train for 20 minutes while trying to ignore middle school girls moaning
>be gaijin
>obsessively search for decks online and compare/copy them to grind the ladder ignoring all fun
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>>172624703
You have some terrible luck anon.
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Oh baby
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Thoughts?
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>>172624960
Thought about it, but that's a dead draw against any other deck.
Grim feels more versatile.
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>>172624960
bust out the candelabras, it's time to only spam removal until you can play aegis.
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>when they lose all their tempo trying to snek me but I have a board of skellies and a shadow reaper all set up
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As much as I've come to despise Aegis decks, Sonia is just too fucking cute. I want to mope around and do depressed things with her.
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>>172625039
it's shit
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This is one of the most absurd take 2 decks I've ever seen. Three fucking legendaries?
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>>172624996
>I know nothing: The post

The nips are the ones using proxys IRL to test upcoming cards,They are the ones with all those cash tournaments.
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Ramp dragon mirror would be the most skill intensive mirror in this game if fucking satan doesn't exist.

Satan was a mistake.
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>>172625131
you sound paranoid anon
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>>172625112
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>>172625112
Pretty sure I was once offered 4 legendaries for a Sword Deck

2 Rolands, Alexander and Albert

No, I didnt win 5 games with it, sadly

Also, I noticed they moved the other two guaranteed gold/legendaries into the middle of the draft instead of at the end
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>>172625220
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>172625175
I'm not sure if whoever gets oracles first is skill based
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>>172624868
Thanks, Luna!


Room number: 97210

8/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses.
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>>172625264
hey calm down
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>>172622914
how is cblood or midrange blood doing right now?
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I am the mad cyclone!
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>>172624959
I think it's just that Shadow players tend to be loud.
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>>172625273
Thanks, Urias!


Room number: 10817

9/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses.
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Just got memed on by BFF, Laura and Azazel OTK.

Holy fucking shit.
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>>172625508

カッ!オヂン様!?
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>>172625396
Cblood from my experiences is pretty good right now. Blood moon is nuts if used with it in the right situations.
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>>172624959
>>172625584
Shadow players have more time to post between games.
They play 3 games in the time it takes for Dragon and Haven players to play one.
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>>172625106
how does she even mop with that stick
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>>172623491
>but I personally think there are strong arguments that aggro can be just as difficult.
What a retard.
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i am participating in a tournament soon and will win it for forte
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Post RoB/SV Forte art, not the cow Forte from GBF.
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What should I vial and what should I build
Nothing but trash
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shadow premaid decks or blood premaid decks?
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Is there a reason to make anything besides ramp? I can make it if I vial pretty much everything I have for forest and shadow, with maybe enough leftover to craft aigis. I don't see any deck type as being able to contend with ramp to any degree.
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>>172625508
kys
dub
cuck
>>
>GRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIIIIIIIIIR

CYGAMES DELETE THIS CARD FROM THE GAME
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Cygames admitted to IGN they killed aggro
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Is Value Princess the most powerful neutral card ever printed for aggro? Feena got powercreeped in just one expac.
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>>172625801
>tfw no Mordecai in amaid outfit
It's not fair, bros.
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where can you find full size artworks of the cards without anything on them like pic related?
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>>172625801
Do you like Queen Vampire or Cerberus more?

Theres also, what deck archetypes do you play?

Shadow premade is for non Nep Shadow, Blood premade is for Control Blood
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>>172625682
Ganbatte
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>>172625815
kys
sub
cuck
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>>172625845
I was wondering if I was possible to put her in my current Blood Aggro deck but I get the impression she's too slow.
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>>172625847

>>172623042
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>>172625682
gl hf
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>>172625845
Pretty much. I like strix for the memes though
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>>172625847
There's a mega link in one of the replies near the top of the thread.
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>>172625897
>plays Alucard
>think Gobbler Princess is too slow
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>>172625608
It's surprisingly good against the Aegis and Dragon decks right now and you can play enough control tools to beat unga shadow reliably.

A turn 6 evolved Azazel in general is hard to deal with and instantly threatens lethal. It also lets you stabilize against the unga decks while forcing them on the defensive unless they have lethal in hand.
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>>172625897

Blood cant maximize her value really but she's amazing in sword and shadow.
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>>172623042
>>172625921
>>172625954
thanks, although i wouldn't suppose there's a website where i can download them individually? my internet's pretty shit
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You know, playing unranked sucks fucking balls with any non-aggro deck.

You just face the most retarded greedy shit all the fucking time. I just lost to a Nepshadow with a random Tyrant thrown in. Every fucking deck can just randomly Bahamut you for no reason too.

I suddenly love how tryharding in ranked keeps shit like this in check.
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>every expansion, a legendary is showcased for each class
>since ToG has two for each classes

Fuck you, cygames. We don't need that desert rider.
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>>172625682
please, win it for vampy
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>>172623491
GN: Are there some cards that you think the community is underrating right now?

Yuito Kimura: …I’d like to not mention a particular name here, but there is a legendary card that people aren’t talking so much about right now. I think it’s pretty strong, but I also don’t want to say any names, in case it turns out to be not so strong! (Laughs.)

WHAT COULD IT BE????
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>>172625946

I gave up on Strix after I activated 3 of him on curve and still lost.
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>>172626030
She's a very important card because her emblem is cute.
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>>172625593
Thanks, Urias!


Room number 40129

10/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses.
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>>172626097
deepwood anomaly
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
*suicides
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>>172625845
i don't even see a place for her in aggro shadow

she is just too slow
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Support Cannon doesn't work with Aurelia or Luminious standard. That's fucking shit.
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anyone got a dicklist for the new ramp dragon?

Do I just chuck 3 sybils in then win game?
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>>172625871
i like ramp dragon and combo roach
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>>172626097
Dark Jeanne. I agree with him. She's strong. But not top tier strong.

It's not Deepwood because people went crazy over that useless card.
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BANE?
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>>172625791
>not the cow Forte from GBF
You could have just asked, anon
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I have a question
1: is commie shadow midrange or aggro?
2: why is commie shadow so much fun?
3: why are we the only guys talking about commie shadow?
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>>172626097
>underrated
Well the ones that didn't get good reception are Ginger and Dark Jeanne. The ones that were meh are Shadow and Forest ones.
One of those I guess.
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is charlotte good in cannon decks? I was thinking about replacing my alwidas with her, but I don't want to spend any more vials today.
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>>172626168
There's a lot of them running around. There are storm lists, saha lists, satan lists.
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>>172626195
>midrange
>in tempest
l e m a o
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>>172626195
>1: is commie shadow midrange or aggro?
aggro, it doesnt have a bell curve
>2: why is commie shadow so much fun?
it plays itself and requires some thought, but not so much that you dont suicide if you make one mistake
>3: why are we the only guys talking about commie shadow?
im gay
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>>172626213
It's not Ginger since they said themselves that they know it's not a strong card now, but have plans for her in the next expacs.
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This is what happens when you don't embrace the frog in ranked.
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>>172626195
1. Yes
2. It's a wholesome and family-friendly deck, pic-related
3. We're not, we're just the only ones who started the meme
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So now that aggro doesn't exist what's the advantage of going first again
What's the excuse now
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>>172625847
Is Orthrus a communist?
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>>172626129
Thanks, Mordecai!


Room number 10688

11/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses.
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>>172626168
Chuck in Sybils, Ouros, Fortes, Bahas, Rahabs, Grimnirs, Lightning Blasts, obligatory Salamanders, all the ramp cards, then fill the rest with whatever you feel like.
also you don't need 3 of any of the legendaries, I run 2 of each except Forte which I run 3 of.
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>>172626329
I need a win.

Regards, that Magisa.
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>>172626320

Decks are so busted that pp count matters more than evo count and card count.
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>when haven drops test of strength turn 8
Thank god he didn't live to see turn 9
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>>172626195
Commie Shadow is a very fun deck to play, being able to flood your board without it dying to every aoe is fun.
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>>172626305
deck?
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>>172626394
thx senpai
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>>172626495
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>>172626453
Just keep in mind to not flood the board TOO much, or you might end up with nothing but 1/1's and brick your board against a forte
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Post your Snek, Bloodbros.
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>>172623731
You will get the stat buff but not the ward effect.
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>>172626415
>>172626329
Just a tip: people who join may do so to get their daily done so you should always suicide rather than kill them, especially if they're emote spamming.
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>>172626453
fukken saved
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>>172626305
frogabond vag best card
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>>172625897
For bats Airjammer is way better since it's the same cost but you'll get better stuff.
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>>172626543
A full board of 1/1s and an evolve is 7 damage to the face. By the time Forte comes down it'd be to kill the shadow player or it'll lose.
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Hows skells stalks?
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So far so good
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I want to play Lamp Dragon, how many legs do I miss?
Pic is my neutral/dragon legs.

P.S.: How does it do against the commie army?
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You will NEVER guess what happened next after I made this unstoppable power play
If you guessed lightning blast you were right
He ran out of hand cause I kept hard removing his bahamuts and he had no pendants for his grimnir so we were topdeck flailing at each other for retards for like 8 turns until I edged it out on the power of pixie's paradise fueling elder treants and wolves rushing his shit with bounces and mays to keep him from killing me

>>172626118
Yeah he has lightning behemoth syndrome

>>172626149
Standard isn't a commander
Contact the kikes about it not working with Aurelia
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>>172626515
Also 2 x Urd to combo with Forte.
But as the other anon said there are a lot of variations. Some run the Saha+Luci/Israfil package. Some also run Zell, just for the big guys you play or to combo with Hydra.
Dragon got a lot of new options which all seem pretty good so far.
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>reading archive
>see all the retards that thought test of strength didn't work with aegis
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>>172626648
nice webm lmao
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>>172626654
- You'd want 2, preferably 3 Bahamut.
- You'd want at least one more Miko.
- You'd want one or 2 Ouros as it seems right now
- You'd want 1 or 2 more Sahas and Lucis
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>>172623491
Aegis is alright honestly, it's pretty much the same as Seraph. Lightning Blast is kinda stupid though.
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>>172626415
>>172626594
Sorry about that, man. Didn't see the post that responded. My apologies.

>>172626329


Room number 61359

11/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses. If you need a win, let me know.
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>>172626453
How do I commie shadow?
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>>172626097
It's underlord. That shadow lego is amazing, but nobody wants to actually think a deck around her.
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>>172626648
post dick
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>>172626770
just sexton your skeles bro
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>>172626235
What's a good storm list?
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Lmao
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>>172626248
Ah, nothing like getting back to mine off the steam version instead of the mobile version. The image is extra large too.

Anyway, next month sleeves. I bet most will be going for the goat.
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>>172626149
It works with Aurelia but she only does her 2 base ATK damage which is shit. I guess it makes sense because the added ATK is from fanfare but it still sucks.
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>>172626715
I'm still disgusted that it does. You can't do shit to aegis, meanwhile there's no way to ward regular stuff let alone when the other player can just bahamut/themis 5 20/20 wards

>>172626797
You have to rattle all your bones
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>>172625795
Anyone? I only have 7k vials right now, that's not enough to make anything.
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>>172626758
I'm too poor for this, fuck.

(Also, no Israel?)
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>>172625795
Vial nothing
Go grind arena you stupid fuck. Jumping off a cliff isn't going to save you in this meta.
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Anyone willing to concede for me?

81065
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>>172626797
I'm still fidgeting with this deck but I'm fairly happy with it, netted me easy 1k points in masters so far.
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>>172625795
build forest
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>>172626901
Both are nice
Will grind out 12k
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>>172626654
You can make it work with 1 Baha, 1 more Sibyl and 2 Ouroboros'. 2 or 3 Bahas would be ideal though.
You also need more than 1 saha&luci if you want to run that version but obviously that's more expensive.
Do you have all the golds? (Salamanders, Grimnirs, Rahabs, Urds)
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>>172625795
>>172626943
You seem closest ro wolfbolt, only lack one more wolf.
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>>172626771
Thanks, Urias!


Room number 52867

12/20 matches completed

First wins, second loses, let me know if you need a win.
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>>172624785
>invalid deck code
dirtbro what happened?!?
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Thanks a million, Eggman.
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>>172627021
Yeah but wolfbolt is shit, isn't it
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>>172626248
>>172626254
>>172626306
>hsbbs
commie shadow is midrange.
just because they summon a lot of skellies doesn't mean it is aggro
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>>172626901
>lolisquisher

YES
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>>172623467
I did. It's fun.
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>>172626992
>pendant, oracle, breath

>>172627052
Cygames knew and shut it down.
Or maybe he forgot they expire in like 5 minutes and saved the deck code instead of the url or used a sv portal account to save his shit
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>>172625795
>>172626943
You have like almost all of the good forest leggos you'd ever need and 7k vials, what are you even complaining about?
>>
Waiting for Gawain is killing me, is this how Nep felt?
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>>172627129
gawain will not save you
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>>172627082
then wait for the meta settles.

you don't want a tier 3 deck .
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>>172627113
Forest is bad
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Why is it called "commie" shadow?
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>>172626974
Can't really say much about the Isra and Zeus yet. People seem to like Isra, but Miko is an auto-include for sure, so it should be safe to craft. Bahamut is also far more important than Isra anyway in your case.
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>>172627158
neph too
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>>172627178
Yeah but all the prospective top tier decks are 30k+ aren't they?
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>>172627082
It's pretty okay to be honest. With Juggle warden being added to the game and with the extra wards.
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>>172627016
For the geld no problem: 3 Sala and Urd plus 1 Rahab already, and I'm fairly confident.

Still that's at least 4 and more like 7 legs (I really like Saha in ramp) to go, huh... It'll take a while.
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>>172627098
>tfw they fixed ambush royal by throwing away the ambush royal deck
Feels bad man

>>172627201
You're killing the enemy with a virtual tide of garbage. Much like meme russia history
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>>172627210
I can say much about isra and zeus

Israfil is good, even if you don't pack saha
Really good with saha

Zeus is shit, run zells and an olivia instead
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>>172625795
>>172626943
You can already make a Seraph. Afaik it doesn't run 3 anyway because it has enough draw to not need to.

Craft an Aegis if you want an alternative wincon for it.
>>
I'm thinking of making a Dragon deck, but so far all I have is 3 Saha, 3 Lucy, and 2 Bahamut.

Which legend is most important to craft next? Sibyl, Forte, or Israfil? And how many of them?
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>Decide to grind for the RoB pack score reward since I was only a few game left
>Open it to find a second copy of Daria

A tad late for me to be Daria cancer.
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>>172627250
You can do budget decks in many cases using other golds/legos you already drew which give it flexibility for a little inconsistency and still win. It's not black and white. Mulligan well, know your class, know your matchups, know when to board or face and when to evo and you'll close the gap.
>>
That was the most absurd game vs swordcraft I've ever seen.

Three alberts in a row with an evolve for each.
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>>172626812
What amazing plays would you make though? This has been brought up so many times before.

Tyrant on T10... anything before that is hardly an amazing play that makes her great to have in the deck. Even Soulsquasher on T6 isn't too special. And playing her by herself of course just makes her a 3/4 pseudo ward.

I would love to be proven wrong, but I have yet to see anyone post about their incredible success with Minthe.
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>>172627086
In this game """midrange""" has never meant anything other than overloaded aggro.
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>>172627201
I find "red army" shadow rolls off the tongue better.
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>>172627325
I could probably make straight up Aegis but I don't know how you build that shit, and I'm also worried about it falling off
There's a list on game ai but that's storm with 3 al mirajs and that seems both kinda dodgy and kind of out of my reach
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>>172627342
Daria is as strong as ever with mammoth and Chimera

She's still strong as a hand refiller in conjuring force lists and some dirt lists.
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>>172627129
I opened 3 Nep before she was released and now I got 5 Gawain this time. I'm actually used to it now.
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>>172627001
why archers over dark conjurers?
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>>172627210
Baha appears fucking everywhere so at a certain point I'll just bite the bullet and craft two.
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FROGBROS WW@?
I've already gained 1k points by copying that deck that was posted a few threads ago, it's so fun.

I was thinking of removing a couple white generals tho, since they tend to be quite useless. What should I replace them with? More Alberts? One Gabriel?
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>>172627554
not him but i would guess because it doesnt require you to spend 2 cards + 1 evo point to deal 1 or 3 damage, favoring a card that can work independently and deal 1 damage
>>
Elf queen is literally a shitty fairy beast
what a fucking joke
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>>172627612
Jeno or amelia or board control
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>the only card that can win me this game is the sole eachtar in my deck
>actually topdecked him

After 2 expacs, I finally having fun playing Shadowcraft . I think Cygames doing a great job making Midrange Shadow viable.
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>>172627656
no surprise here though
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>>172627442
>Straight up Aegis
For no there's no such thing yet afaik. It's just Elana and Sun with an Aegis thrown in. The only card you'd specifically include for Aegis is Test of Strength.

You can just play the classic Seraph, though.
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>>172627612
Can you post the deck? I missed it.
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>>172627612
Can someone post it again?
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>>172627554
Board is more often than not clogged so the ghost goes to waste, an unchallenged lyrial on evolve turns basically means 5 damage to the face.
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>>172627656
But how did the beetle warrior turn out? People said it had potential

But every forest I run into ladder, runs the exact same deck they ran pre-TotG
>>
>try to run Dark Jeanne
>buffs the other guy's board

How the fuck is this trash viable
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>>172627382
the midrange shadow lists now are more unga, in a more control oriented list you can use her with spirit cycle to turn your early game into draw power while saving shadows for stronger effects.

having tyrant as a finisher is actually pretty good now that the game has turned into winconverse and in a spirit cycle deck you should have the draw power to always have the combo ready on t10.
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>>172627712
Just make Elana without the Elana amulets. You don't really need them because you're not trying to create a strong board mid/late game since you'll make the strongest board in the game with Aegis later. Taking out the amulets lets you put in other stuff to help you survive to turn 9+ safely. Sun is even worse since the whole deck usually sucks if you never draw the amulet.
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>>172627808
Guardian Sun. She's good there. I've been using her since I got 2 today and she won me 5 straight games that I've ran her.
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>>172627808
You play dark jeanne only when:
A. It wipes out their board in whatever configuration needed
B. It gives your board lethal with any additional evo/stat boost you have

You should also learn to read fucking cards.
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Can someone please explain to me the relationship of the lore of Shadowverse, Granblue and Rage of Bahamut? Are they set in the same universe and same timeline or same universe and different timelines or what? Why is there a point made about different art styles (e.g Granblue Forte vs Shadowverse Forte sleeves)?
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>grimnir drops all his chunni act abruptly and cat caught his tongue when facing his superior, Odin
>dub version he tells Odin not to ignore his entry quote

What happened?
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>>172627808
You play it with the other jeanne
First you play good jeanne to give your shit +2
Then you remove the +2 and give them +2 attack :^)
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>>172627907
Different uni's

>>172627925
They made a bunch of easter egg quote interactions
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>>172627925
>dub
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>>172627756
What do you expect from forestfuckers? They can't even count.
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what do you think about this my yet another shitty deck idea
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Is Luna-chan finally going to save me from AA Hell?
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>>172622914
Can I get some help with my ent deck?

Gist is to ride out to t9 with soccer mom covering t4-5 pixies, evo trades, elder end pseduo-evos to drop a gigas, and forest dragon then close with subsequent gigas/treant/cynthia/elder treants and titania's fairy evos
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So any news on how seer's globes work? And when is satan cat streaming?
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>>172627731
>>172627745
Keep in mind that necro+corpse hard counters this.

>>172619804
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It's actually fun when you pull it off
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>>172628050
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>>172628020
If you're gonna play Storm Ramp it would be better to put in more big followers and old staples like Genesis and Urd. Maybe Zell and Ouroboros too. You have no chance of making a strong early board with this deck so you might as well focus on ramping early to play big guys later.
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>>172628020
Seems a bit all over the place. The lower cost cards want to ramp, then the higher cost cards want to play as aggro finishers. You're ramping, but what for? So you can deal damage to make up for lost time in the earlygame?
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>>172628184
>You're ramping, but what for?
for an early overflow for eyfa and for seabrand and scyther and untargetable fortes and also for being able to play scyther + forte or aina on 1 turn... not to forget 3 grimnirs which can be finishers
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>>172627026
Closing for the night.

To that anon that needed a win for a daily, I'm sorry.
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I need THE BEST neutral deck you have got
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This is from leddit but I thought it would be helpful:
>Frozen Mammoth (When you play a follower that costs at least 7 play points, destroy this amulet. Last Words: Summon an Imperial Mammoth.)
It is triggered when you play a minion with original cost of 7 or more. so things like 0 mana rose queen(from wolf) will trigger the amulet, discounted stuff from wyvern cavalier works the same way.
enhanced minion will not trigger the amulet (eyfa, date, grimnir, etc) The amulet's self-destruction is an aura, it will be triggered after any fanfare. so if you play a 0 cost Atomy you will have both atomy and the mammoth on your board. Bahamut works the same way.
>Test of Strength (Countdown (2) Leaders cannot be attacked if there is a follower that can be attacked in their area)
When this amulet is in play, followers cannot attack the opposing leader if they has attackable follower on their board, so if your opponent only has ambush follower you can attack face
Followers that can only attack face in the first place (like lurching corpse) can only attack face even if this amulet is in play
If your opponent has a ward follower and non-ward follower, your follower(s) can only attack the ward follower, even if this amulet is in play
>Arriet, Soothing Harpist (Fanfare: Fully restore the defense of an allied follower that has attacked this turn. Give it the ability to attack 1 more time.)
If you target a hydra with arriet's ability, the hydra will get to attack 4 times this turn ( probably works the same for grea, albert and alexander)
>Vist, Elf Butler (Whenever you play a Forestcraft follower that costs at least 6 play points, subtract 3 from the cost of this card.)
you can reduce vist's cost to 0 by playing 2 forestcraft followers with 6 or more cost when vist is in your hand
similar to frozen mammoth, vist's ability counts the follower's original cost, so enhanced jungle warden will not reduce vist's cost while 0 mana deepwood anomaly will reduce vist's cost.
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#92928

Need a concede. If you need a win let me kill you instead. Thanks!
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>>172627907
Not sure about Shadowverse's main story, but the Shadowverse cards are all from Bahamut. Granblue has a lot of the same characters but it's kind of an alternate reality or something where they just share names and vague appearances.

You hear about Forte a lot because in RoB she was a tall dragonrider, but when she came to Granblue as a character they gave her the "Draph" race (where all girls are really short and have horns) and she became Shorte.
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How is lightning blast balanced?
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>>172628434
>Deepwood Anomaly (Whenever this follower attacks the enemy leader, deal damage to that leader until their defense drops to 0.)
Deepwood anomaly's ability works as the following : when you order anomaly to attack enemy leader, it ability will deal damage to make enemy leader's hp = 0, then the anomaly itself will attack the enemy leader.
when your anomaly attacks enemy leader while your enemy has durandal in play, anomaly's effect damage will be reduced to 4, then anomaly's attack itself will be reduced to 4 ( total 8 damage)
when your anomaly attacks enemy leader while your enemy has mask of the black death in play, anomaly's effect damage will be reduced to 0, then anomaly itself will deal its attack damage to enemy leader .
timeless witch will entirely negate both anomaly's effect damage and its attack damage.
>Support Cannon (Whenever an allied Commander is played, deal X damage to a random enemy follower. X equals the attack of the Commander. If there are no enemy followers in play, deal X damage to the enemy leader instead.)
it is triggered when an allied commander comes into play, this includes things like urd-ing your commander, playing luminous mage will trigger the cannon twice (from the mage and the knight, 2 damage each)
the damage dealt is the original attack of the commander so, aurelia will always trigger 2 damage, leonidas' resolve and luminous standard will not change the support cannon's damage either (it doesnt matter which one is played first)
>Tristan of the Round Table (Fanfare: If an allied Commander is in play, gain Last Words: Summon a Tristan of the Round Table)
Tristan only gain the last word if there is a commander follower on the board, stuffs like Royal Banner will not give tristan the last word
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>>172628498
It's really not.
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The blade of judgement falls!

Folget me! Just spale the mistless!
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>>172628470
>If you need a win let me kill you instead
Heh. I mean, if you need a game without concede.

Thanks Vampy.
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>>172628498
Just themis bro
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>>172628507
>Minthe of the Underworld (Fanfare: Your Necromancy effects cost 0 shadows until this follower leaves the area.)
necromancy effects will cost 0 shadow, and will be activated regardless of current shadow count. with ghostly grasp and deathbrand being exceptions due to their text having "if you have enough shadows you can choose to ....", however if you have enough shadows you can trigger the effect without using any shadow.
Minthe's effect is a fanfare, so it can be blocked by an evolved elta
>Mask of the Black Death (Countdown (5) Whenever your leader takes damage, reduce the damage to 0 and subtract the same amount from this amulet's Countdown instead. (If there is more than 1 allied Mask of the Black Death in play, subtract this amount from the Countdown of each.)
when this amulet is in play it can absorb any amount of damage as long as it is 1 instance of damage .
>Blood Moon (Countdown (4) Vengeance is active for you even when your leader's defense is more than 10.)
Blood Moon's effect is actually a fanfare, so it can be blocked by an evolved elta
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>>172628554
kys
dub
cuck
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>>172628434
Hydra, Zell, and Arriet is one way to OTK the opponent if you use Phoenix Roost. Anyone with all those cards can try to make a meme deck with it.
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She did it! She won!
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>>172628498
It's not at all.
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I absolutely hate being on a winstreak then being matched up against multiple healing haven decks in a row, made to go second in each of those games, and then receiving bad opening hand + mulligans in each of those games
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>just heard the new tsubaki for the first time
I can't stop laughing ahaha what the fuck
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Left:
Dragonsong Flute
Polyphonic Roar


Right:
Dragonslayer's Price
Grea

TAKE TWO WAS A FUCKING MISTAKE. Time for some memes into 0-5.
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>>172628582
>Heavenly Aegis (Can't be damaged. Can't be affected by any other card's abilities except for those that change this card's attack or defense.)
Heavenly aegis is targetable, your opponent can cast a deathbrand on heavenly aegis, your opponent will lose their deathbrand but your aegis will stay on the board
Heavenly aegis is a valid target for random effect, if you have aegis on board and some other followers and your opponents plays necroassassin or suicide a lurching corpse there is a chance that the effect will "hit" the aegis (aegis wont be destroyed) protecting your other followers.
if heavenly is your strongest follower on the board and your opponents's khawy dies. khawy's effect will target heavenly aegis, aegis will not be destroyed and opponents leader will not get any healing
if aegis is your only follower and your enemy triggers their support cannon, the cannon will shoot the aegis (dealing 0 damage) instead of your face.
if you have Heavenly Aegis and Zoe, queen of goldenia on your board and order zoe to attack, Zoe's effect will target aegis (0 damage) instead of your face
Test of strength forces your opponent's followers to attack aegis instead of your leader, while aegis can attack enemy leader.
Heavenly aegis's face damage can be blocked by timeless witch and Mask of the black death, durandal reduces the damage to 4 (applies to followers as well)
Attacking your enemy's heavenly aegis with a follower that has drain will not heal your leader (because it deals 0 damage to the aegis)
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>>172628562
No problem. Sorry about trying to go for lethal last time, m8. I didn't catch the post before where you asked for the win so, like a dumbass, I started going for face.
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MOOOOOOOOOOM
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>can't play any deck with morde anymore

why does cygames want to make shadow the aggro class
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>>172628637
>Zell is balanced
EXPLAIN THIS
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>>172628694
>Didn't get themised
Lucky shit
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>nip tries to call of cocytus my aegis
>then tries to cyclone blade it
sandbaging is worth it
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>>172628676
Is it me or does quickblader look unusually feminine
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>tfw you ramp so hard that you're at 8 mana while the enemy's at 4
and then you lose anyway because you have no cards
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Swordbros.

Time to think deeply about this shit.

Like the honestcraft that we are, let's be honest. WE ARE FUCKED right now. Gawain might be able to save us but I don't see anything right now that can go up against Dragonretard or even Blood Moon.

Any ideas right now? Has anyone tried anything that worked out well?
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>>172628713
Shadow have good aggro, good midrange, okay non-nepmorde control and so many memes other classes can't compare. What else do you need?
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>>172628498
Because everything else is so unbalanced it's balanced.

lightning blast is like the least unbalanced shit dragon has, and there's the blood sneks and haven aegis test of strength and all sorts of crazy bullshit going on in shadow.

a aoe banish is like the least of your worries
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>>172628763
>look mom I defeated a new player and ruined his day even though my deck is good enough to hold itself in master rank
Kys
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>>172628743
He used it on the earlier turn to clear 1 clarke and 2 quick mages.
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>>172628676
Don't worry. Was a bit of a dick move for me to concede over it though.

I wouldn't have minded if you'd played that game out if you needed a non-concede game. My cell is at 3% battery now though so I'm ded. Gotta just keep shitposting on my work computer instead.
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>>172628809
Frog Sword is viable and not a meme
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>>172628653
>Test of strength forces your opponent's followers to attack aegis instead of your leader
HOW IS THIS ALLOWED
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>Tfw game is anti aggro as fuck right now
>Tfw nowhere near enough cards for any other deck
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>>172628791
everybody is going to use this new katana unsheathed with an unpronounceable name anyway
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>>172628713
you can play sexton or have an evolved elta on the board to prevent the banishcaust.

don't play them for your inability to deal with the meta.
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>>172628809

Walfrid can outvalue Shadow.
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Daily reminder than 2 sybil+3 fervor >>> 3 sybil+2fervor
You need the draw more than the body
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>>172628842
Nah, it's fine. Gonna call it a night for and wait next time round to get the private matches completed.
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>before expansion
>anon said that Orthus and Catacomb were garbage and aggro shadow didn't get any support
>after expansion
>both cards turn out to be great and aggro shadow is one of the few aggro decks that still work
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>>172628868
cygames will probably change it

i mean, they dont let guardian sun affect aegis
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So who the fuck thought Aegis was a good idea?

I'm not saying the card is broken in the sense that it would cause Haven to have 60% winrates when we next see some stats. What I'm saying is, how is it fun to play against? It's an uncounterable "I win" card that artificially makes games shorter than they should be. It's absolute horseshit in T2. It's absolute horseshit in unranked. It's fucking dull to play and play against. It's not fun.
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>>172628060
What to use instead of front lines if I don't have it?
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>>172628637
saha bringing baha + zell gives storm to baha
faster and seems not that rare
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>>172628809
We Frogcyclonecraft now.
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>>172628980
Weel of fortune.

It's okayish.
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>>172628973

Cygames did. >>172623491

IGN: The reactions to some of the card reveals online have been pretty crazy. Heavenly Aegis and Lightning Blast, for instance.

>Yuito Kimura: But once you actually play those cards, you realise that they aren’t as super strong as you expected them to be.
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hmmm
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>>172628507
>>172628582
>Double cannon is blocked by mask
>Doesn't stop anomaly
>Tristan doesn't count amulets with no wording to it
>Moon doesn't have fanfare in its desc
Nice game shadowkikes

>>172628973
It's a limiter on slow decks

>>172628980
Well of destiny
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>>172628940
test of strength doesn't affect aegis, that's why aegis can hit your leader disregard of the test of strength

test of strength affects your followers and forbids them to attack the enemy leader, aegis has nothing to do with it
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>>172628973
Aegis wouldn't be that bad.

If it wasn't in one of the crafts with the most healing and removal cards in the game.
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>>172628809
Just Albert bro honest face XD
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>>172628940
But aegis isn't affected by test of strength and ignores it
It works as intended

>>172628973
I think it's a really cool card tbqh
And I have fun playing against it winning against it
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IGN: Are there some cards that you think the community is underrating right now?

Yuito Kimura: …I’d like to not mention a particular name here, but there is a legendary card that people aren’t talking so much about right now. I think it’s pretty strong, but I also don’t want to say any names, in case it turns out to be not so strong! (Laughs.)

So what card is it?
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>>172628931
Aggro bats still works fine too since everyone is trying out greedy control decks. The deck to beat right now is dragon so decks are even slower than normal, if people start playing shadow to beat dragon then we'll just end up with CBlood, Haven, and Dirt playing Angelic Barrages with the rest of their clears.
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>>172628984
>saha bringing baha + zell gives storm to baha
I've being saying about this combo every thread since they revealed zell but anons were laughing at dragon, were are they now
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>>172628931
I called Catacomb the Shadow legendary silver of the pack when it was first announced. Had my doubt about Orthus but I'm glad she worked out well.
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>>172628973
Yes, yes it is. They fucked up.
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>>172629092
Dark Jeanne like people already said 4 times in this thread.
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>>172628809
Play a frog deck. If you kill them before they can use that shit it doesn't matter. Run 3x execution if you're really assblasted about moon

>>172629092
Ginger's a stealth tier 2
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>>172626654
Sibyl should be at 3 for consistency.
You should make 3 Baha.
Israfil is good, so maybe you want to run some.
Saha should be at 3, moreso if you run a lot of neutrals., her best combo is with Lucy.
Ouroboros is great for control match up, but probably can be filled for a while with Prince until you have made other legendaries.
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>forces you to constantly keep the board 100% squeaky clean against the class that has the easiest time vomiting shit on the board
>actually punishes you for clearing their board cause it gives them shadows they can use to vomit more shit on the board with the very same card
who the fuck greenlit this
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>>172629059
Nothing I said goes against what he said. As I said, it's not super strong to the point where we'll see Haven at +60% overall winrate next week. It's just pure anti-fun.
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>>172629092
Sybil and aegis
Noone talks about them and they are sleeper OP
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Pepe Sword might be the most fun deck in the game.

I got sneked three times in one game and cycloned them away. I even got Pepe above 8 health to survive a revelation.
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>>172628973
How is playing against aggro that interacts with nothing but your face and kills you turn 6 fun?
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>>172629157
Gulag apologists.
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does anybody have that carrot dragon list from rob? it's removed on gamepress
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>>172629092
Either Minthe or Ginger, they are getting more support in the next expansion either way.
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>>172629157
Who do you think?
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>BLOOD MOON IS BALANCED BECAUSE ITS A 3PP TEMPO LOSS
>plays 3 diabolic drains turn 4
Hahaha what a tempo loss right guise
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>>172629157
oh no

god forbid something besides haven and dragon be viable
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>>172628973
Aegis is a meme card. Unless someone is retarded or have shit luck they should beat it every time.

Also the not fun argument never works. Because you'll hear that about everything from Ramp dragon to aggro bats to Dirt rune.
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>>172629157
>why did they give mindrange shadow a wincon?
Probably so that midrange aggro can win games
Just a guess
The deck would be very weak without a finisher like eachter
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>>172629230
Because you can actually interact with their cards in a way that matters. You know what cards they have in their deck (DoD and whatnot) and can play around them.

Knowing Hag has an Aegis helps nothing. You just assume she does and hope you can kill her before she can drop it. If you can't you lose. Fun.
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>>172629157
Just Lightning Blast it bro.
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how do I redub
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I kept telling people here that /svg/'s predictions are so shit. Goddamn am I right again.

>Lul Forest still top tier
>Lul Sword fucking top tier again?
>Fuck yeah, Dragon is SOMEWHAT OK now
>Blood is good now! (Well they were right about this one, but not HOW it will be good)
>Shadow still fucking sucks
>Haven fucking OP (Well somewhat right)
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>>172629290
just themis bro
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>>172629216
People said Sibyl would be in Dragon from day one.
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>>172628984
You need 3 cards for that combo. Not a big fan.
I prefer either Zell+Servant or Zell+Uroboros.
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>>172629343
nigger lightning blast isnt even a counter since it's just trading one card for one card, the fact they can shit on the board with only one card is fucking retarded, i actually lost a game where i had double lightning blast and a salamander
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>>172629312
>The deck would be very weak without a finisher like eachter
desu a lot of people reported that aggro shadow works without eachtar too
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>>172628498
Turn 10 do nothing
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>>172629352
kys
>>
What's the hot new forest deck?
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Would aegis be balanced if it had a permanent self test of strength where it's forced to attack a follower as long as there is one before it can attack face?

It's obviously better than bahamut in literally every way as a follower. Bahamut's only real use is board clear and maybe being able to live one turn if they have no cards in hand but it still has the two follower limit. Aegis only has 3 less attack for everything else it brings.
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>>172629372
no one has ever said this
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Does Rogue creed + Pepe work?
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>>172629218
>Play Pepe Sword 3 times
>3 times its against a Forest that uses that spell damage immune chick
fuck me
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>>172629323
You can't interact with them because you are dead on turn 4. With Aegis you are dead on turn 11.
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>don't draw my wincon
>lose
nice game shadowbabs
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>>172628973
Hi hs how about discover wich is fun?
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>everybody gets banish
>haven gets a better mordecai
>people complain about shadow playing aggro
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Why Cygames have not given Haven good strong banish boardclear. Judge of Retribution should banish all enemy minions under 3hp, else Haven is not good enough
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>>172629453
>Aegis only has 3 less attack for everything else it brings.
5 less attack
you shouldn't compare unevolved baha and evolved aegis
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>>172629448
Concede Forest is top tier
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>>172629372
/svg/ is just a typical circlejerk, if you go against the dominant idea you will just be called an idiot en mass, while most of the anons accept the dominant ideas without any question or doubt.
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>>172629323
To each their own.
I consider Aegis the lesser evil here.
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>>172629463

Front lines+ Frog. Curves out better.
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>>172629487
Adding in tons of RNG on top of the RNG you already have built-in into a card game is frustrating, not fun. Similarly, cards that are literally uncounterable are unfun.

>>172629468
Only Dshift loses that hard to aggro. Not that I can say for sure how bullshit the current Shadow is against some decks.
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>>172629524
hahahahhahahahahHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
get fucked fuher eris, eachtargrad will BE YOUR GRAVE
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I wish they change bane into turning enemy creature's defense to 0 instead instakill.

Shit should give people at least fighting chance instead of lelAegis+Test.
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Just lost at a 10 win streak ;_;
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>>172629463
It "kinda" works, but it is pretty counter intuitive to play it over front lines which is leagues and colours above rogue's creed.
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>>172629463
Depends on the order. You need to play frog first.
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I'm too stupid for DShift.
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>>172629372
>>172629550

yeah, you both are the two only smart persons here

you have found each other, now you should kiss~
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>>172629538
Evolved baha is pretty wasteful though since it will usually have nothing to hit after it's dropped and will just get immediately removed because it's a 13/15 attack follower.

Every haven I've seen drop aegis immediately evolves it and I can't see any fathomable reason why they wouldn't because that's a permanent 10 damage on the board.
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What was the reward from the 10 victory quest from the new expansion?

I was lazily clicking around and didn't see it...
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How would you improve this, /svg/?
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>>172629607
The only way test makes it into final Aegis lists is if Aegis itself is the meta. It's better just to play things like Bahamut to clear their board instead.
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>>172628809
Make a Pepe deck. It is actually viable
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Concede?
63056
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>>172629694
Add one Kaguya in case you get matched against Aegis Haven, else you auto-lose if you're going second
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>>172629682
Fem gotta go fast man and sugita dragon cav.
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>>172629682
Less dick in your sword decks.
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>>172629694
May need some Odins in case of uppity Seraphs?
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>>172629694
You need more draw and probably Odin
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>>172629694
why do you have no gsun
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>3/6 Ward for 2 Mana...

Uhhhh, shadowbabs?
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>>172629694
3 aegis seems overkill, 2 should be enough.
3 test is way overkill
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>>172629694
Unicas instead of rabbit healers.
Not a fan of Acolyte's Light and Death sentence.
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>>172629738
Dick please
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>>172629771
>>172629781

Literally who
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>>172627808
that card takes skill to use anon :^)
no, but really
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>>172629752
Thanks my commie brother.
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>Aegis/Tribunal/Themis/Ward deck
Gayest shit I ever saw
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>>172629918
You're welcome comrade.
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>orthus dub death line
it sounds like a furry being gassed
im going to install the undub now
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>>172629738
post decklist
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I'm considering buying shadow pupper's deck, should I?
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>>172629463
Have to play frogger first. If you're willing to use forge weaponry a lot, you'll curve better with front lines+well
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>>172629694
Getting a rope
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>>172629885

Try >>172628060

It's a work in progress, white general is underwhelming and can use one tsubaki or more alberts.
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>>172629650
kiss THIS dick you slut
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Any dragon deck that doesnt cost me a left testicle? Or will I just have to vial everything?
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>>172629763
don't have her and mirrors aren't that common

>>172629804
>>172629820
Haven't seen a single Seraph since ToG hit, I'll just take the risk. Maybe Holy Water for heal and draw?
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>>172628931
Definitely a good deal with death's breath, foul tempest and phantom howl. The only low point is fly king who is no longer meta.
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>>172630025
how big is it?
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So the middle pick in T2 is now always guaranteed to be neutral golds or higher. Oh yeah, more roulette for who gets to draw their "I WIN" card first. Just what I wanted.
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>I can actually beat Haven decks now because their Themis panic button doesn't work anymore
This April revolution has truly been glorious, I now fully submit to the ideals of comrade Eachtar.
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>>172629860
not them, but isn't it like seraph, what if you don't pull aegis? seraph was run 3x mainly for consistent pulls
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>>172630041
Face dragon.
Well I dunno about the newer one, but it just need ramp, Trinity Dragons, Eyfas and Fortes
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>>172630074
Friendly reminder to draft every Khawy available because literally everyone has Bahamut now
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I vialed my left nut for 2 Sibyls. Now give a good dicklist, Dragonbabs.
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>>172629826
I used to have it but I'm not sure it's worth the slots.

>>172629864
Unica doesn't actually heal you (she never survives), but the soft ward might help. Will try it.

(Also that's not Death Sentence but anti-commie tech)
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>>172630080
it's not even april yet, even in japan
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>>172630080
Until they tech in Forbidden Ritual, fucks skellys and non breath zombies
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>>172630114
Face Dragon is pretty much auto lose to ramp dragon and snek blood on ladder.
So I wouldn't recommend playing it at the moment.
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>>172630041
Super budget storm ramp only use 3 Forte and 3 Sybil.
Face Dragon only use 3 Forte.
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>>172630080
>Japanese ver clearly says Hector
>Eachtar
The translation team is retarded
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>>172630097
seraph was run 3x because odin exists. aegis is closer to something like sun satan that would run 2 copies of satan as their finisher.

haven has a lot of draw, especially with the new judge. 2 is the perfect amount.
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>>172630162
Yea but I thought calling it the March revolution would be weird since this expansion released at the very end of March.
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>>172630097
You are correct, without Aegis in hand t9 things get ugly fast.
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>>172630203
It's the cheapest dragon you can build though.
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>>172630214
Damn I only have 1 Forte. I love dragon but discard OTK memes can only get you so far.
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Need a private win for daily.
I'll play it out if you need one of your 20 matches.
40139
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Is control forest finally viable with the new legendary?
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>>172623301
>>172623149
please?
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>>172630024
Yo I just tried that shit. Well I was lacking 1 conscription so I just put in 3 Alberts.

Anyway I honestly think yeah it's viable with a little more tweaking. But this shits on Dragon SO HARD if Dragon can't ramp twice in quick succession.

Shadow does hard counter this so bad though. but still, I really think it works.
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>>172630175
>tech in ritual
>matchup against Dragon and Blood

Just prepare your ass and hope you see all weakness of all skeletons.
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>>172630219
There's already another Hector in RoB.
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ok I need help creating my shadowcraft deck i suck at making decks also I have enough vials for 2 legendarys
any key cards I need?
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>>172630080
Is he a ghost of Stalin?
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>everyone has already teched against shadow
the revolution is dead time to quit
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>>172630340
And this is obviously not him.
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>>172630080
>making a hagfag concede when Themis summons back 4 spooky skeletons

Not so hard counter, eh hag?
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>>172630175
>slow as fuck aoe that takes a turn to set up
>*plops down sexton*
gee that was hard
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>>172630282
No, Anomeme is to hard to pull off since it's damn removalverse.
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Mutagenic bolt next turn and we both died. On my turn though.
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Uhuhuh, gimme! It's you I want!

Ahahahahah! I'm gonna borrow this!
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>>172630423
>takes a turn to set up
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>>172630282
Legendaries, both are great for control. People are shitting on forest hard but it actually has impressive defensive powers and can even outstall haven.
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>commie shadow

What lame meme is this? How it is started?
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>>172630428
But i want to beleive.

>>172630476
Time to theorycraft.
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>>172630473
>he plays the retarded 3 pp do nothing countdown reducer
>i plop sexton
gee that was hard
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>>172630473
>le doggiemate or candle

What makes you think shadow cannot add a vanilla 2/2 just to fuck that tech up?
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>>172630507
Before even thinking about a deck, just tell me how you plan to beat turn 6 snakes or any dragon shit.
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46534
please concede to me
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Cute goblin, comrade.
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Pepe sword is legit
I still won by topdeck Albert
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>>172630557
I...uhm. I'll figure it out.I guess...
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>>172630406
How can you even tech against my commies?
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>>172630635
angelic barrage
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>>172630487
i'll send you to the gulags for inciting revolt you traitor
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>>172630214
do you really need 3 sybil? isn't 2 enough?
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>>172630569
Thanks Vampers.
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>The main counter to commies are angels and their arrows
Rly makes me think
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>>172630665
>barrage a board of x/2, probably killing only one or two skeletons
>dead card against other matchups

Sounds lovely.
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>>172630423
just candelabra bro

>instant aoe banish
>4pp necroassassin + lurching corpse amulet to cuck reaper
>soul collector becomes viable
>pious fox becomes a 4pp 4/5 ward

keep bandwagoning onto shadow and hag will get her revenge
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>>172630557
>>172630621
If fucking Noble Fairy was easier to play instead lel, you need to play 2 cards so you can use its shit. Plus it eats 5 slot for decent cards.
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>>172630690
You can use 2 but 3 is optimal.
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>>172630487
autism
answer is always autism
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>>172630739
>soul collector

You have grown senile, hagfag.
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>>172630557
Execution stops t6 snakes and also kills Bahamut. They already have Lily for Ouro anyway.
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Grandblue Fantasy.
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>>172630665
They are more than welcome to kill my attendants :^)

I don't think they will play it unless the deck somehow becomes played everywhere, like after some tourney win or something.
It will help in one matchup but is completely useless vs Dragon, Haven and Sneks which are everywhere right now.
Masters is just alternating between Haven and Dragonat the moment with 1 in 10 games being something else.
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>>172630750
To set it up you need your maneater mangrove or Robin hood to kill the damn sneks.
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I never thought I'd main Haven
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>>172630802
Lost Order
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How do you guys get your take two tickets?

I mean the thing is
I could spend 100 gold on a new set pack
Or 150 on T2, get a standard pack and some gold pack

But if I just keep doing T2 I don't get any new packs, just standard.

You should get a free T2 ticket every 3 days or so desu
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>go on a 7 game win streak
>suddenly on a 5 game loss streak because every player i'm playing against curves PERFECTLY

really makes me think
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>>172630839
I want you to kill yourself
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>>172630175
It's sexton bait unless they use candelabra which they have to curve or they're dead
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>>172630882
I don't play arena, because its all about luck
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>>172623491
Most retarded thing I've ever heard.
>We're gonna slow the meta down so that several decks are straight up garbage, but we don't want them to last too long so we're printing cards like aegis even though seraph caused all sorts of shit in DE when the meta was "fast".
Whoever plays their "I win" card first wins and killing dragon/haven/blood is impossible. The only thing that can come close is catacomb shadow. Dragon can remove any threat and heal back all it's hp long before you can kill them.
Dshift can't even hand this shit because dragon is always at full hp and drops minions with hp too high to kill over and over again. I hope this is the last time devs try to enforce the meta all at once.

Also an important note. Bephomet can be nerfed and aegis can get a neutral counter but dragon will still be retarted unless they nerf legos. If you are wondering which one to build to become the cancer go dragon. It's the safest option for your vials.
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>>172630882
But you got one every 15 days? I haven't finished the one from elite 2.
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>>172630893

That's okay, me too
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What the hell. Aegis is low as hell. I keep losing with this shitty deck. Why are you guys fucking complaining about Aegis?
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>Goblin princess
>9/10 worth of stats in one card
Who greenlit this shit
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>>172630802
Advanced Warfare.
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>>172630282
What made you think anomaly was going to do anything?

>>172630428
He shines in that he's a lightning rod which lets your elta board and mammoths nut.
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>>172630968
Because people in here are fucking crybabies bitching about every new thing that they lose to once.

Yeah occasionally the haven player will win with aegis.
What the other guy doesn't know is that he lost the 3 matches before that.
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>>172630972
For 9pp.

pretty fair.
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>>172631003
I'm optimistic about new elf cards then reality hits hard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxcP7TRY178
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Here's SatanCat's Ambush Pepe deck.

Someone try it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqBo-EZj5k
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>>172631003
I rather go with wolfbolt to pull that shit off.

Wait what if we put mammoths into wolfbolt so when he drops or queen you get more shit.
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>>172630882
You fill out standard then craft anything you want
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>>172630972
I tried running her in a Hectar deck but took her out. She feels kinda slow and can't kill anything with more than 4 hp on turn 5.
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Need a concede.
Stick around if you need one.
16732
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>>172631069
Sending good vibes
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>>172631094
I wish arena gave you a random pack instead of always standard, or a "buy whichever set you want with this" ticket good for 1 pack

would be a lot more interesting
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ok
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Waterwyrm is dragon's best lego now. Friendship ended with Forte.
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Of course they have two Odins for my two Khawys. Why wouldn't they? It's T2 after all.
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>>172631078
I wanted to give it a shot but I need 2 more Rishas and 2 more frontlines.

Those perfect curves though, something that will never happen to me anyway.
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>>172631212
What the fuck is that dragon meme
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>Frontlines suddenly became usable because of Pepe.

I knew this card would be used one day.
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>>172631226
Remember when people said she was "meh".
Now imagine if you could play her on curve and not turn 5.
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>>172631186
I'm fine the way it is since I'm still missing loads of standard legos (started out in january) and if I had rupies I would feel bad spending them for standard instead of the new shiny expansion.
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>>172630143
>>
>want to play midshadow
>still haven't opened him for the emblem

Maybe I will just craft 2 and call it a day.
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>>172631226
I prefer Fervor due to the card draw though.
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>>172631362
Do it. I crafted 3 and set myself free by ranking 3000 points and getting to Masters yesterday before everyone learn how to deal with him.
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>>172623081
Just run frog sword.
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>>172631212
Aggro dragon happens

>>172631281
It's aggro dragon with Aina
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>>172623491
They have absolutely no idea what they're doing do they?
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>>172631394
Just egg lmao
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>lack a bronze or silver card
>don't want to craft it because I will probably get it eventually anyway from opening packs

hate this feel
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>>172631362
who?
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>>172631362
Never, ever craft untill a card becomes truly a staple. Echtar is probably a must have for midrange, but you never know if the meta evolves to bully him out. I think it's worth the vials, but I wouldn't spend them yet, it's the SECOND day of tog after all.
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>>172631394
>im literally retarded d rank the post
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>>172631186
They want to incentivize whaling while remaining f2p
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>>172631362
Back in RoB, I got a Nepnep for emblem soon after crafting 3 of her. Hope the same would happen again, I really want Eachtar and Minthe to complete my Shadow legos collection.
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>>172631532
Spoken like a true netdecker and a tier whore.
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>>172631519
I'd craft if it that silver or bronze are not from the packs I buy.
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monastic holy water for runecraft when?
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>>172631532
kys
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>Evolution points won't be used when you evolve allied Commanders.

Nevermind it also summoning another commander out of thin air just when it gets played.

How the fuck is this card balanced? Were they drunk?
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Can anyone help me fix this?
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>>172631519
They are so cheap that in the long run they will pay for themselves after just 4 copies.
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>>172631334
No Saha and friends? And I have only 1 Dork.
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>>172631159
Please respond.
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>>172631627
And sword is still the worst class right now. Shut the fuck up.
>>
are they gonna release new prebuilt decks?

is it even possible ? some chances about this happening?
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>>172631672
Saha package doesn't really contribute to the storm goal
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>>172631686
>he doesn't know
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>>172631627
An it does even help them at the slightest against Dragon and Haven now. Think about it.
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>>172631627
It's 5 cost that competes with other nice 5 cost sword cards.
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>>172631702
Probably RoB x ToG prebuilts when the next expansion is out.
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>>172631590
Except that I literally spent 3k vials for a frog deck.

But I would never recommend it to anyone else.
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>>172631714
People are already starting to tech non-targeted removal, the frogpocalypse has begun
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>>172631394
They're not mutually exclusive, but fervor has the downside of killing you against unga.
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suggest improvements please
I have 4500 dust and 3 unused sahaqiels
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>>172630145
>Unica doesn't actually heal you (she never survives), but the soft ward might help.
It will help, playing rabbit healer turn 2 is meh, while unica is great. You benched her in pure Elana because it was difficult to get a heal out of her, but she's been a staple anti-aggro card (even used in aggro decks).
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STOP GIVING ME THIS GARBAGE MEME CARD RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172631773
Shadow ruins yet another expansion. Thanks reaper!
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>>172631763
>3k vials
It's fucking nothing!
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>>172631817
fuck you piece of shit I don't even have ONE
give them to me
you shit
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>>172631678
Thank you Luna.
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>>172631763
And a lego set is 10500 vials.
Also if you have fun, it's worth it.
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>>172631830
3k vials is a fucking legendary. If you're not swimming in vials, spending that much and then having your deck become unplayable one week into the expansion is horrible.
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>>172631627
The entire expansion is full of broken stuff. It's very obviously on purpose in order to make people buy the new cards.
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>>172631785
Lucifer isn't worth it without Saha. Sybil do his job much better.
Dragoon is just a shitty Grimnir.
FUCKING PLAY 3 Grimnir.
Add at least 1 more Baha
1 more Sybyl
Remove Dingdong
2 Blast is enough
Consider eggs if you're struggling against aggro.
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>>172631590
Anyone who hasn't played this for at least half a year doesn't have the vials to be experimenting around.

You can't waste 10k vials crafting a shitty legendary when you don't even have a good deck for all crafts yet. Fuck off.
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>>172631819
>shadow

Didn't know shadow had tribunal.
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>>172631980
uhhhhhhh
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>>172631980
Lurching necroassassin conversion dolorblade warrior death's ledger
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Why is the deck size 40 but the card limit 3? You can never have a deck with all cards maxed out. This triggers my autism.
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>>172631815
Unicas on curve literally just won me a game against Wallet Dragon.
This was a good suggestion.
>>
You know, if nothing else TotG's set symbol is pretty cool.
>>
>blazing breath my skullbeast
>salamander my skullcradle widow

Geez, calm down, Rowen!

I proceeded to make him concede with turn 5 atomeme+mammoth though
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>>172631785
What is your ramp's goal anyway?
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>>172632028
>>172632015

Does anyone even play those still?
>>
Is Grimnir worth crafting outside of Ramp?
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>>172632148
What do you think?
>>
Well I sure hope they bring rotations now because the powercreep is fucking absurd.
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>>172632148
No, but people will play those if frogs become popular.
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>>172632167
Needed in every control deck
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>>172632250
Please start by rotating out the entire Rune class.
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>>172632267
Wouldn't it kinda gimp their skelly deck if they tech those 2?
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>Vsing haven player
>they emote spam after every board clear or banish
>Proceed to banish both of their seraphs with lightning blast
>they rage quit
cheeky cunt got what was coming to him
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>>172632181
I run corpses in a hector deck but no necrothighs. I might give up an Orthrus for one though. Thanks for the idea.
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>>172632312
It doesn't necessarily have to be in their skelly deck.
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remember when dragon would play oracle on 2 and then fucking die
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>>172632296
I'm not sure about spending 2.4k to replace my Temple Defenders.
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>>172632304
>rune

Is this still RoB or something?
>>
Hector is a pretty swell guy.
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Gonna be honest, Illusionist of value's pretty nuts

>>172632167
Yes. It stalls or board clears
>>
Anyone playing control sword?
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>>172632267
They might play them even if that's not the case. There's a lot of room for shadow to explore, the current unga shadow and mid shadow are just easy as build and don't require much, if any, refinement to do well against the greedy haven, dragon, and blood decks.

Give it a couple weeks and we'll see some more interesting shadow decks popping up.
>>
HOLY SHIT WHY DON'T THEY REMOVE THE BOARD ALTOGETHER
NOTHING SURVIVES
NOTHING SURVIVES!
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>>172632080
Glad to hear.
I'm going to try this variant myself.
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I've never been more glad that DShift exists than right now with all this Aegis bullshit running around.
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>>172632321
He should've played a better deck.
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>>172632449
The fact that we have 20 fucking HP kind of makes it necessary given that we have shit like Albert and Forest shitting out +10 damage from hand at will.
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>>172632356
It's still happening, though?
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>>172632449
>nothing survives
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Good skellies
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>>172632494
Does he even need a sword when he's that big?
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How do I counter aggro decks?
This is dumb.
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>>172632562
Just ward up and heal bro.
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>>172632439
>tried using csword
>oh fuck 2 consecutive brick city
>3rd fight bloodmoonsnake
>oh fuck oh fuck
>nigga didn't drop it on 6
>lucky me
>slug it out with him
>drop his life to the point blood moon was useless
>forced to drop my baha since I gonna get raped by Furiae
>He pops snek
>Baha Cyclone blades it

My draw today is so shit, I can't even make my shitty ramp even ramp, let alone a slow ass deck like csword.
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Thanks unga sword. your alvidas command became a great finisher.
The day unga sword is to slow for dirt.
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>>172632562
play csword ;)
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>>172632507
Pic related.

>>172632536
Even a big guy go in style, like crashing planes.
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So how long before the collapse of communism?
It feels like it only works for now because of the element of surprise and the novelty of the expansion.
I'm worried
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god i hate this game now, the first couple of turns dont mean shit anymore

everyone's running tons of wards and removal, every deck that isn't control plays like fucking dshift now,
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Help me out here lads
I need 3000 vials, meaning I gotta vial 3 legos for what I want to craft
Who do I send to the shadowrealm?
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>>172632562
>aggro
>viable in ToG
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ouroboros has FUCKING HEAL aswell HOLY FUCK
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>>172631763
Frog is viable.
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>>172632648
regretting all those vials on albert and daria?
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>>172632706
Just Odin him bro
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>>172632686
Matriach, Beast Dominator, Flies or Fairy Princess
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>>172632686
Animated Merlin. Get 500 vials extra.
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>>172632706
Just banish bro.
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What do you think about Gourmet Emperor in a deck like this?
I frequently find myself left with 2PP once I've finished ramping and he would fill the hole with his carrots.
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>>172632686
Dominator, Fairy, Minthe
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>>172632686
Dragoon, lord of the flies, otohime, or merlin
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>>172632756
>they play their other one the next turn
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>>172632845
It's just a fucking Mordecai that has to be re-played every turn.
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>>172631078
bricks way too hard
sword is just fucking shit right now
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Which one?
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>>172632502
Dragon has over9000 hp
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Does Aigis beat ramp? Does anything beat ramp?
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>>172632695
I'm almost at 100hrs and still don't have a single complete deck, couldn't care less about the meta shit right now.
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>>172632980
left
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>>172633015
Aegis beats saha ramp and loses to stormramp.
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>>172632695
>he can handle shadow and its skeleton army

Tell me your secret when they just punch through Rahab with Orthrus
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>>172632884
Morde has no impact the turn he's played
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RoB
>WAAAAAH, ALL THOSE ALBERT, DARIA AND ROACH DECKS, I CAN'T PLAY!!!

ToG
>WAAAAAH, ALL THESE CONTROL DECKS, I CAN'T PLAY!!!

The problem is you, fucking shitters
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Remember when new expansions were about trying out new stuff?
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Why is she so fucking cute?
Probably my favorite new card, even though she's situational.
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>>172632695
Aggro is definitely viable. Have you actually tried playing? Because right now I'm still winning with my old aggro Sword deck even though I've been seeing the new cards played.
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>>172633190
>all these contr-
>looks at elf deck
fuck you
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>>172633194
Does she say tsururi or jururi?
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>>172633194
And she will be an emblem/sleeve next month. Better grind next season.
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>>172633025
How? You can literally make any decks you want just from the starting bonuses and all the rewards you can get early.

>>172633064
Skeleton army is midrange though
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>>172633224
>B1-B3
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>>172632686
Just vial unused silvers.
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So Arriet lets Albert attack 4 times in a row, isn't that nice.
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>>172633194
She's trash
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>>172633192
You don't need to try new stuff when the devs enforce a meta and basically tell you what to play
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>>172633051
>Aegis beats Saha ramp

What the fuck is aegis going to do when they bust out a Bahamut and give it storm by turn 7?
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FUCK THIS SHIT I'M MAKING A DICK-SHIFT DECK
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>Play removal and board clear every turn for 8 turns except for turn 1
>Still lose to shadow
This is fun.
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>>172633296
>implying the Prince is not the second 3PP to go with rabbit necromancer

Reaper loves feeding on those skeletons, mind you.
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>>172633324
She's alright in Midrange.
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Is there an up-to-date easy to read post-TOTG arena card tier list yet?
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>>172633234
>if only elf had some deck that did well against control decks.
>if only they had 18 damage burst from hand that went over aegis' head.
>if only they had cards like lily to take care of ouro or bahamut.
>if only they had a new amulet that kept the skeles at bay until they can wotf
why is this class so shit? buffs when?
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>>172633015
Ramp Dragon only loses to Ramp Dragon or bricks.
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>>172633254
jururi most likely because she wants to eat your soul.
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>>172633317
? Why not? Sword isn't strong now anyway.
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>>172633296
>How? You can literally make any decks you want just from the starting bonuses and all the rewards you can get early.
Alright man, if you say so.
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>>172633332
themis/tribunal or die since turn 7 storm bahamut is rare
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>>172633324
You're trash.
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>>172633324
You're trash
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>>172633224
Yes I did, I'm AA2 and Unga Bats is literally worthless, I already vialed all my vampys.
Right now ladder is 75% ramp dragon with rahab and heals, and control blood with heavy heals and sneks, which all rape aggro.
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>>172633483
>>172633506
now kiss~
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>>172633192
I hope you realize most tryhards are trying to find the broken deck of this time. You can't just try any shit on ladder and expect it to work.
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>>172632646
If only you had a 2pp follower that stopped that

>>172632647
Teching against them will ruin their other matchups. You're basically aggro dshift
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>>172633254
Jururi.

It's like "sluuurp" in Japanese.
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>>172632536
It's basically a heavenly super robot so yeah.
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>>172633334

>auto-loses to storm followers in ramp
>auto-loses to commie shadow
>auto-loses to frog

So, you're getting pissed off at Aegis and Dirt?
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>>172633546
I checked syadoreco for a second and it seems most are leaning towards Dragon, Shadow and Blood

...This might suck
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>>172633384
>man eating man grove

DO NOT GIVE THEM IDEAS
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reminder shadow is the new sword
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>>172633440
You get about 50k vials from the start tickets and the earlygame rupees out of ~104 packs for a new player before you're left with daily rewards, score rewards, and your arena proficiency.
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>all these shitters saying sword is trash right now

I bet you all also thought that Shadow would be dead in TotG, and that Aegis was garbage
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>>172633317
Assuming he survives or the game isn't over after being out for a full turn 9/10 when the enemy is likely to have massive removal
It's not that great
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>>172633312
>JUST vial 60 silvers
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>>172632628
>Mutagenic Bolt
PLEASE
POST
DICK
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>>172633565
L-lewd.
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This anon needs a concede at 18149.
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>>172633546
My point is what anon said >>172633326
There's stuff that are so ridiculously broken right now you have no choice but to use it and it's such a big oversight it feels almost as the developers made it so on purpose.
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>"I don't speak Japanese but I undubbed my Shadowverse"
>"I have no idea what they are saying 99% of the time but I did this anyway"
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Can I get a concede? If you need private matches just let me hit your face.
81668
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>>172633653
cool bait
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>>172633317
>>172633669

Tsubaki into Arriert is the more reasonable curve. 12 damage with evo on.
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>>172633731
how do I redub
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>>172633553
>If only you had a 2pp follower that stopped that
Getting Lightning Breath is easier than your anti banish card with all the draw and tutor cards.
Or you can just kill him first.

>>172633672
I just vial'd 100 silvers, don't be lazy now.
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>>172633731
stay mad dubcuck
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>>172633731
You are already using the quote function. You don't need quotation marks, newfriend.
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Should Dark Jeanne go in Aegis?
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>>172633789
couldn't you just reinstall the whole game?
your progress should be linked to your steam account anyway, no?
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>>172633612
>robin hood and grove
This kills the skeletons.
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>>172633653
Right now it's shit.
It might not be so once Gawain is here. I thought it was broken shit, but seeing how other classes perform already it might be just ok.
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>>172633731
>I still post fedora memes in 2017
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>>172633789
verify game integrity or whatever on steam
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Reminder there are tons of animated silvers of cards you don't use that could use vialing.
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>>172633703

If I got my information right, they got a infamous jew developer from GB on board right now.
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>>172633703
That's going to be every expansion. People will try the most obvious stuff, like sneks or saha ramp + new cards. I doubt you could just play anything at the start of RoB as well with 30% daria on ladder.

Suck it up and try to make a deck that actually wins.
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>>172633824
If I didn't use them it could have seemed as if it was I who undubbed it
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>>172633384
And how do you plan on building a control deck that also searches for a way to end the game? You don't have enough room in the deck for everything and you can't stall mid/lategame without a boardclear
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>>172633731
>using the dub full of inaccuracies and objectively worse voice acting from the hobos who voice niche low budget jrpg localizations
>not understanding enough japanese to know what they're saying, or the talent from their tone of voice to fit their respective characters
You do know you have to be 18 to post here, right?
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Satancat playing Ambush Pepe right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncf1rtP6I5g
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>>172633523
Thats why you play Unga dirt.
works well against dragon if they dont get their perfect ramp.
Illusionists where underrated when revealed. Hes actually a really good follower if you get T1 scrap golem T2 illusionist.
Or get out a rite on T3 if hes still alive.
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25091
Concede onegai!
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>>172633384
>tfw 0 cost Archelon and gigas into roach+board
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>>172633878
People are still complaining about Daria and she came out in December. Likening the new cards to her doesn't really help your argument.
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>>172633847
>Phantom Howl lethal in hand
>Robin Hood or Mangrove on board
Thankfully we'll never have to experience that hell since forest players are too dumb to make decks that don't involve being proactive and roaching face.
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>>172633878
Pay up you mean, and no, fuck scummy business practices like this.
It makes for a very dull and linear feel, it's more fun with variety in these sorts of games.
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>>172625830
The strong aggrolings will live and the weak one dies, you can't kill aggro.
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>>172633653

It's got a solid concept and strategy with ambush followers (remember when that was a meme), but it's prone to too many weaknesses. Maybe it's just a matter of deckbuilding so sword can resort to strong backup plans or so they can readily deal with early overwhelming aggression, so Shadow basically.

I definitely can see it being a significant tourney deck.
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>the meta actually doesn't have a single deck that is oppressive to others like Daria in Rob
>still complains about it

This is ridiculous.
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>>172634021
>Understanding a 3rd-world country's language

LMAO KYS
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>>172633731
>i don't speak japanese
何?
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>>172634103
Do you even know what my arguement is? Legit question.
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>test of strength aegis combo
Literally who thought this was a good idea?
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>>172634036
Huge thanks!
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>>172634025
>Brick or win: the deck

Is pepecraft the new Daria? Or is it sneks?
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>>172634021
>inaccuracies

I mean they are not even similar

When you evolve Vania in English she says "Now you made me angry!"
In Japanese she says "kenzoku mou daijoubu da yo" which means "My family/kin will be alright now"
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>>172634109
>tried to play robbing hood with noble fairy
>hand bricks too hard if i can't play them on curve
dunno about that
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>>172634168
Do you think your argument was something abstract or complex?
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>>172634179
Me to the left, you to the right? Also no problem.
>>
How much you guys have spent on this game
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>>172633731
I would absolutely not claim that I know Japanese. But it's still pretty damn easy to understand what the cards are saying. And if one of them says a word, phrase, or even if you found a card saying a whole sentence that you apparently don't understand. You can look it up and it'll stick with you.
It's rather simple stuff.
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>>172634186
Sneks.
Pepe is one, pepe can be defeated and stalled. Sneks are have themis or lose.
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>>172633847
>>172634109

This is one of the main reasons why I thought aggro shadow wouldn't work anymore. I thought Control Forest would be a thing, and they have such hard counters to aggro - especially shadow which is mostly minion-based. But I have yet to play against a single one.
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>>172634275
Nothing and my decks are shit
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>>172633343
Literally me.
Playing banishcraft and even with perfect draw you can do diddly-squat.
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>>172634186
Snek is way too consistent for that.
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>>172634280
My only problem with JP is that too many of the cards sound like squealing 5 year old girls
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>>172634275
200
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>>172634186
It's Lamp.
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>>172633332
From my experience it's legit Just Themis Bro or Tribunal. They're 3 pp ahead of you and only have so many Bahamuts in hand. As soon as they drop something big that's not a Bahamut you're free to Aegis Evolve in order to kill it and after that the game should be yours.

Outside Satan and Wind Reader shit they have no way of killing you unless it's storm ramp.
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>>172634275
$10
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>>172634237
No, but you obviously didn't understand it.
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>>172633731
I use the Jap voices precisely because I can understand English and notice how shit the dub is.
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>>172634318
Many of the cards looks like 5 years old girls.
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>>172634148
>56% human
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>>172634275
6 bucks for the once-only 600 crystals deal, used google play money to buy that. I do those google surveys where you occasionally answer one or two questions which takes a few seconds and they give you some 10 to 40 cents or so each, had been racking up a bit and had 8 bucks on my account that way and this is the only game I could see myself spending those on.
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>>172634275
Zero bucks, maybe 40k vials?
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>>172633343
>be shadow
>be able to slot in 11-12 1-card board floods

It's wonderful
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>>172634139
>implying Daria was ever oppressive

Lmao
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>>172634109
Whats happening to Arisa here?
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>>172634343
Not him, but what the fuck to do against Zell?
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>>172634275
Nothing.
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>>172634450
t daria
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>>172634139
It really just depends on what people play.

I never minded Daria as Dragon but Albert made me want to kms.
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>>172634010
run teena to help clear board before you need to wotf? run execution to stop sneks from overrunning you?

you don't have to run the roach package, you can even drop soccer mom for the chuuni if you want to truly cuck aggro since it opens you to using unica. unica and may in the same deck is absolute hell for any aggro deck.

dragon gets cucked by execution and having things turn into snowmen, you can even use the same lily to turn multiple followers into snowmen. haven doesn't even have many threats so you can save cards for silverbolt or just run fairy princess :^)

nows the time to experiment with ideas like this, go try shit out and if it doesn't work identify what went wrong and change up cards accordingly.
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>>172633825
You can, it bonks mr skeltal

>>172634028
Post dick, my homebrew is ass
>>
>>172634308
>>172634321
>>172634360
>>172634409
>>172634412
Baaah i think card games are not for 3rd worlders and should stick to fightcade
>>
Need a win please 71624
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>>172634450
>pre-nerf daria was not oppressive

Found the diarrheafag. Must be nice being a developer's pet that you didn't get nerfed hard.
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>>172634275
>Spending money in F2P game
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i'm pleasantly surprised as to how fucking good this card turned out to be, lets you demolish the wards that cuck the other aggro decks
really goes to show that you should always put complete trust in your commissars, comrades.
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>>172634592
I can board clear wards and heals instead of crying
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>>172634275
25 yurodollars.

Bought a pre-built deck when I started to get the staples for what I wanted to play, and one of those 20 yuro crystal packs that I kept using on 50 crystal daily packs while it lasted.
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>>172634454
>>171178347
??style OTK Elf Deck
10 consecutive wins in masters!?

I have to steal this!
----
[Trying it out immediately]
I found a Roach gobu~

With this I can get to master too
----
You shouldn't use your 0 cost minigob right away you know!

I found an idiot gobu

eh?
----
[end game]
Your Roach Math is too slow.

Hey, what are you doing~?

Hey hey, don't you see your lethal yet~?
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>>172634028
Doesn't illusionist waste a lot of sigils though?
I haven't tried the deck yet because no big guys.
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>>172634318
Ne~ ! Ne~ !
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>>172634637
>clearing a turn 5 board
>heal matters against 5/5 and 3/4s

Nice try.
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>>172634537
Thanks Papa Bones
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>>172634275
6 dollars just for the crystal deal because I wanted the cute as fuck otohime card back from the prebuilt
I don't even use any of the cards I got from it, just the back
>>
WHAT THE FUCK.

LECIA DOESN'T PROTECT YOUR FOLLOWERS FROM ENHANCED LIGHTNING BLAST.
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>>172634275
1-off 600 crystal deal. 2 packs 1 Dragon prebuilt.
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>>172634796
>muffled heavely aegis laugther
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>>172634628
Post dick. Not sure if i should change mine, as long as i get catacomb it goes out of control fast.
>>
>>172634796
>this is the average intelligence of your typical sword main
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>>172634796
Read the text, son.
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>>172634527
>paying for virtual anime cards

Good goy.
>>
>>172634796
Because it's banish :^)
>>
make new thread you fucking nerds
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>>172634318
Right?! They should all sound like a middle aged obese woman instead
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>>172634872
You need to be 18 or older to post here
>>
utilise old thread
>>172612282
>>172612282
>>172612282
>>
Cygames loves making cards that they ignore everything else so how about we make a card that removes a card from the board while ignoring all it's events?
Would make a good card for this game.
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>>172634275
Nothing, and I have a full Wallet Warrior Dragon deck and all Shadow decks among other meta decks after 3 months of playing.
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>>172634991
12/f/japan
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>>172635016

We'll call it Shadow Blast, and give it Shadowcraft. It will also have the additional effect of flooding their board with Mordecai.
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>>172634687
It uses. But its an insane tempo gain in start.
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>>172634854
here you go comrade
while i really like goblin princess in midrange in aggro she feels a bit too slow
i prefer skeleton knight over chimera cause of the extra stats but its honestly preference i feel
eachtars pretty good even in aggro cause your board is so sticky and he can increase face damage by atleast 4 on average
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>opponent top decks perfectly and their deck runs at peak condition
>they emote you when they get lethal

Is there anything more frustrating?
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>>172634854
struggling to make snek consistent U_U
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>>172637472
I suggest posting it in the new thread. I don't even play non-unga blood.
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>>172632562
Just concede bro.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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