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Old Thread >>172599234
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RIP Imprisoned Dragon
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>>172612262
I want to be that princess.
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>>172612413
I just want her harem.
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>>172612413
Are them even related to SV?
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PICK YOUR SHADOWVERSE HAREM (up to 4)

>Isabelle
>Magisa
>Sibyl
>Milf Knight
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YOU GUYS
TOLD ME
SHADOW WAS DEAD
WTF
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>>172612556
Bottom right is the 2 mana commander girl
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Just got burst for 18 damage on turn 7.

How long until they nerf aggro shadow? Holy shit.
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ALL I WANTED WAS EACHTAR
WHY CYGAMES
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>>172612616
Ah, sword party then
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>>172612589
>Cerberus
>Orthrus
>Magisa
>Nephthys
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>Think Themis can keep them safe from the horde of sneks and KanaHana
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You didn't vial me, right /svg/?
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>>172612589
Sibyl
Lou
Sahaquiel
Israfil
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>>172612613
URAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
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Have you protected his smile today, /svg/?
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>can't even tech in angelic barrage beceause they'll just make more skeletons next turn

wew nice meta
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>>172612589
>Luna
>Vampy
>Freshman Lou
>Otohime

That was easy
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>>172612589
Too many waifu will ruin your laifu anon.
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>>172612262
Stop making early threads you autist
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>>172612613
The only thing that's dead is Nep, kind of funny since people stop playing her near the end of RoB and went back to aggro shadow anyways.
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A moment of silence for the banished.
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>>172612705
Thank God I haven't got matched with one of those atomeme on steroids yet.
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>>172612765
Stop caring about early threads, autist
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Haven continues to be the literal unfun class.
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>>172612705
What's the new atomeme deck?
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>Early threads made by autistic sword players
Like poetry
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Walfrid, the hero of Capitalism, is going to put down that commie skeleton scum.
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Luna has so many friends now!
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>>172612589
Ouroboros
Roland
Israfil
Forte
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>>172612827
Stop caring about making early threads, autist.
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>>172612705
You can't vial what you never had.
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>>172612589
Luna
Vampy
Unica
Bellringer Angel
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How do we fix Blood bros?
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Y/N
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>>172612998
Blood Moon to 5pp.
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>>172612589
>Ding
>Dong
>Ding
>Dong
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>>172612998
Remove Baphomet
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>>172612589
Eris
Roland
Teena
Albert
Lucifer
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>>172612902
Shenanigans with frozen mammoth. The frozen mammoths provide amulets that help you get atomeme, and then when Atomy comes out he frees the mammoths.

Also, if you have that one bard at evolve him, Atomy doesn't nuke your board but is still free.
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>>172612589
Cerberus, Melvie, Fen Sprite, Pious Fox
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>>172612705
I'm scared now to vial my animated Erasmus and Fairy Princesses even though they've always been garbage.
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>>172612998
But Blood is already fixed.
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>>172612589
>Isabella
>Isabella
>Isabella
>Isabella
4 Isabellas are better than 1
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>>172613049
Sure, you'll have fun
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17/20 matches for the private matches achievement. Build me an unplayable deck!

Room #: 15285
Format: Reverse Take Two
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>>172612998
I've said it once and I'll say it again.

VENGEANCE ACTIVATES ONCE YOU HIT 10 AND STAYS ACTIVE FOREVER.
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>>172613049
Y
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>>172613049
it's pretty fun
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So I got an animated copy of this and Worldwielder Ginger. Are either of them worth keeping? Ginger really looks like she needs to be vialed. I've heard a few people say that Dark Jeanne could be good in storm haven though.
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>>172613049
Urd is used in a bunch of decks, you see Cerb in a lot of Shadow decks and Eachtar is fun as shit. Great value/10
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>>172613083
>anons in charge of counting
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Room: 79220
Name: RoadToGold

Need to play 16 more private games to completion.

4/20
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Fuck this Vagabond frog shit.
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Ayo snake THIS
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>>172613163
>>172613220
>>172613268
>>172613286
I went all in on the skeletons.
Thanks anons
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RELEASE
GAWAIN
NOOWWW!!!!!
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>>172613284
>Dark Jeanne
Is she even in the pack? Never heard of anyone getting her.
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>>172613284
Yeah Ginger isn't good but I usually keep everything I get except extras until the meta settles.
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>>172613342
He can stay locked up, I want more free packs.
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>almost fell for the Blood meme
dodging bullets here bros
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>>172613362
Yes people get her. Nobody is talking about her because everyone is talking about Aegis, sneks and Ramp Dragon.
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>>172613362
nah she's in the pack nobody wants to talk about her because she's awful
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>>172613180
Then it's way too easy to run a bunch of drain, self damage down them explode back

>>172613284
Ginger is alright and is looking to be a tier 1 deck in 3-6 months. They're already making decks that can survive to t9, drop board, and shift once for OTK
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>>172612613
aggro shadow is
sugoisugoi-sugoisugoi-sugoisugoi
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>>172613293
They come in a single package anyway.
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>>172613410
why is her name written in hiragana
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I wish ginger was good.
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>>172612786
>Dead

I lost to a Nep player right now. The last of his kind. I wonder why he hasn't moved on.
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>>172613487
>Then it's way too easy to run a bunch of drain, self damage down them explode back
It would've been entirely fine before Snek.
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>>172613303
Just t4 revelation bro
Just winter's caprice bro
Just pendant and AoE bro

>>172613362
The kikegames head was hinting that dark jeanne is a sleeper powerhourse in playtesting. It'll probably take 6 weeks to suss it out.
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>>172612902
token shadow with prince catacomb
also elta
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>>172613551
Those are some cool looking flame rats
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>>172613487
Is that better than just regular shift?
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>>172613631
Yes and no.
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>>172613446
you forgot skelemen
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>>172613362
i dusted her along with animated zeus
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>>172613590
I'm about to cave in and make this anoying shit. Since it's kinda cheap as I already have the alberts and tsubakis.
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>>172613049
Deck list? Urd is a surprising addition. What's her role?
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>>172613141
>no lightning blast
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They're only giving packs to people who pulled Gawain. Screenshot this.
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18/20 matches for the private matches achievement. Don't be shy!

Room #: 15285
Format: Reverse Take Two
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>>172613213

vagabond frog is strictly heterosexual

>>172613681

does anybody have that pic with a guy hitting a skeleton with a pitchfork and the skeleton saying to him that he shouldn't be such a jerk
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>>172613753
Curving prince catacomb/attendant into urd is pretty dope play
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>>172613719
I'd implant my bone in the goblin princess too if you know what i'm saying
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s p o o k y
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>>172613719
Stop forcing this meme, it's awful.
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>>172613502
>player 2 colors
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>>172613838
>Reverse Take Two
Do you draft your opponents deck?
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It has become really hard to win without a win condition.
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Remember to always bully Luna.
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>>172613869
they lose their last words though and therefore their stickyness i.e. a single salamander's breath clears the board
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>>172613948
yes
it's fun
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>Battle nun deck completely obsoleted by aegis
T-Thanks....
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>>172613126
There are metrics to gauge if a card has potential to become more useful.

Though basically it's just asking if there's currently cards just more useful than it or is it unique.

Several legendaries got this treatment already with enhance golds including Erasmus. Secrets of Erasmus gives you a standard removal card with the option to just play Erasmus and is far less of a dead card. Pluto is also a safe vial due to the existence of Pact.

Another example is Skullfane who is now pretty much a 100% safe vial due to Eidolon obsoleting him.

Fairy Princess however doesn't have any direct replacements. While Forest has a lot of fairy gen, she still does it best and also has the benefit of filling your hand 100%. Forest played well though doesn't need so much fairies and prefers mana-cheated fairies over plain ones. Fairy Princess could potentially become far better if more cards making use of fairies like Rose Queen are implemented, but who knows what expansion that will be.

Atomy is one of the most unique cards in the game. He's basically an 8/8 that can be mana cheated with the downside of costing your board. As more ways to mitigate that downside came about, he became better and better. Bone Chimera and Voices of Resentment gave him a slight nudge. Elta, Mammoth, and Catacomb made him riskless to play.

Basically, just look at a card and judge how unique or powerful its use is and what prevents it from being played now. Fafnir and Zirnitra are cards that were outright powercreeped due to having plain uses and are pretty much safe vials at this point. Cards like Minthe and Anomaly however are just begging for combo potential down the line if proper support is given.
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>>172613995
What deck was this? Sounds cool. We should fix it up.
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>>172613869
Midrange isn't even running Howl any more?
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>>172614005
Go away reddit-kun
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>>172613930
I'm getting a chuckle out of it. Live and let live dude.

>>172614005
At least 1 skullfam is nice for late pops imo

>>172614041
give me 10, in a game
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>>172613968
it always was

>>172613719
who is it in the middle?
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Didn't realize this was the new thread.

Can someone tell me if they were able to use Dark Jeanne?

I fucking have 2 of them and I don't know where I can use her since I only have Seraph Haven and Storm Haven.
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>>172613983
Sounds neat. I can't commit to a match right now though. This general should do private matches more often.
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>>172614103
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>>172614005
Whoa there Charles Dickens.
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>>172614059
With all them skeletons, you usually never have room for Howl. Also, more shadows for Death's Breath and Eachtar.
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>>172614005
Anomaly is in a funny situation. As of now it's an Inferno Dragon, but given the slighest proper support and it will become the most cancerous shit ever.
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>>172612589
Seraph
Grea
Anne
Dark General

dark general a qt
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>>172614183
i thought the face looked very close to sybil of the waterwyrm...
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New TVCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV0O6sbMci0
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>>172614296
How has deadmoon disciple been working for you?
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>>172612589
Lou and only Lou.
She's making me think about dropping all self-respect and playing Rune.
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Anyone got a decklist with goblins and spooky skeletons?
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>>172614365
My name's Lou. It's short for...Lou!
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Someone post a frog deck, I want to meme on people with sword.
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>>172614348

pretty well, it's quite versatile, whether i need to end the game via deathly tyrant or just go past wards early
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>>172614126
Guardian Sun Aegis as a 1 of. She clears weeny shit, gains ward from sun, and buffs your surviving board. She's tricky to use effectively, but she has saved me a few times .

Sadly, the slot could probably be used more effectively though, and that makes me sad.
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>>172612262
New player here.

I heard this is easier to be F2P compared to Hearthstone. What's the best way to build a collection besides money dump?
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Any good decks that run three Jeanne D'arcs? I have three of her. She is pretty cool.
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Give me that aegis deck
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>>172614550
Buy x3 shadow deck.
Congrats you got enough to make a tier 1 deck
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>>172614516
>Guardian Sun
Fuck, yeah this must be it. I only have 1 Satan though that's why I don't run this deck.
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>tfw Prince Catacomb seals you another game and you finally pay attention to his summon line and realize who his seiyuu is
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Last match needed for the private matches achievement. Thanks to all the anons that drafted with me so far and thank in advance to the last challenger!

Room #: 15285
Format: Reverse Take Two
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>>172614550
Get your free packs
do all of the challenges that give you money (beating all the story modes, beating the cpu challenges, private matches etc)
Do dailies
Log in for daily awards
Learn the game well enough to do the draft mode.
its pretty easy to f2p this game but being lucky does help.
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Just realized you can really fuck Snek over by just not killing fodder they may have on the screen after they play Baphomet. The more cards they have on the field the less Sneks.
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>>172612262
Hello? Yes? Is this the meme police? I'd like to report a crime...
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>>172614638
Don't use Satan. Use Aegis instead., stick a grail in there if you want a backup in case you never draw Aegis.
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So is Fairy Princess completely and utterly useless? I fail to see the point when forrest has plenty of other ways of generating fairies that is more efficient. I just pulled one from a pack so I want to know if it's safe to vial.
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>>172614550

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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Which deck uses this qt?
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KEKED
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>>172614880
she's usable in ramp dragon
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Someone play me 90211
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>>172614418
POO IN LOU
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>>172614920
Give me the list senpai
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This was in Take 2, can someone explain?
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>>172614962
just make one yourself, jesus
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>>172615001
No!
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>>172614672
Grimnir is hopeman too
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Why does this Ramp Dragon deck list not run SahaLuci + Isafril?

https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/25867
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Is there any word on new prebuilt decks?
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Post a Snake control list that you think is good
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>>172614550
game requires much more money than HS to get all the cards.

Legendaries are exceedingly rare and you can run 3 of them. They cost 3500 vials each, so 10500 vials for a complete set.

control decks cost 30-50k+ vials

You will run into wallet warriors even in your first games on ranked, just like HS. The only good thing about this game over HS is that cygames are slightly less jewish when it comes to free rewards.
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Told you guys Dragon is so strong this expac.

Like, too strong really.
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>>172614994
It literally says on the card.

It makes them all cost 0 but no fanfares or stuff happen. Also no storm to face.
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>>172615067
Sibyl was a fucking mistake. Now Dragon gets to 10 on average 4 turns early every game. It's disgusting.
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My room is still open 90211 need a few more matches for the private match achievement
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>>172614550
It's fine. You'll always be able to make a tier 1/2 deck first week due to ~50k vials of free packs at start and the early game shit. And you'll always generate enough rupees and vials every 3 months to make a meta deck from the next expansion. If you want to go wide, you're going to need to master and grind ~10 4-1/5-0 arena runs a day each day on top of dailies to smooth over your tilts.

Grind arena. It's slow at first but you'll fill up your standard pack card library getting many viable cards in the process. Then it's just gushing vials to craft whatever you want.
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>Good for competitive
>Good for memes
>Chuuni as fuck with great voice acting
Best boy.
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>>172615059
Legendaries definitely have a better droprate here than they do in hearthstone.
Hearthstone also doesn't have premade decks that let you skip over standard set card collection almost entirely.
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>>172615123
If Dragon is getting to 10pp at turn 6, it won't be because of Sibyl, it'll be because they got multiple Oracles and Aielas in their opener.
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time to meme
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>>172615123
I keep on saying Sibyl didn't need to be dropped after turn 5 just so she can be good. Her being a body with a fanfare ramp is good enough. But noooo, people here said she's shit. Fucking morons.
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>>172615221
Tell me your results
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>>172615189
legendary drop rate in SV is 1.5 legendaries per 100 cards.

In Hearthstone, it's 2-3, and on top of that you only use 1 copy instead of 3.
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What's the point of Death's Ledger?
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>>172615076
No you goddamn idiot, why did he have 4 legendaries, 2 dupes, like that
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>>172615046
Because you don't need them. I've been telling people here that you shouldn't run the saha meme in ramp dragon anymore. Now that nips are doing it I guess they'll accept it.
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This is your new meta.
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>>172615270
no vials for themis or tribunal
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>>172615248
If you're getting ramp out of her you're getting the heal 90% of the time anyway.
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>>172614041
Theme was using during opponents turn cards to generate momentum to drop wells, go wide, or shrine the board and cards that synergized with their lopsided stats.

Since It always takes long it's just mulching against TotG netdecks that do shit like Grimnir board blasts or lolololol Aeigis :^)
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>>172614679
Alright, room is closed. Thanks to all the anons who participated.
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>>172615275
You rarely need 3 copies of legos
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>>172615297
>my opponent had cards! in take two!!!!!!
kill yourself nigger
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>>172615275
In Shadowverse you get 8 cards per pack rather than 5.
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>>172615354
even with 2 it is still vastly more rarer than HS.

It is already enough to get lucky to get that legendary you were hoping for, it is nearly impossible to get it another time, within acceptable limits of time and money.
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So spring cleaning is actually a an incredible card.

If you have an empty hand it draws you two cards per turn.

Fucking amazing.

The internet was wrong again.
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>>172615294
Run a neutralcraft deck to generate shadows and chip damage. Either ledger as a tyrant tutor or off-curve to drop morde/khawy effects
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So this is the power of aggro shadow....
jk I will probably win anyways
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>>172615307
>people thougt forest was getting the better storm minions.
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>>172615275
>2-3
Bullshit. 1 legendary per 40 packs is HS average.
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>mfw my opponent summons wind reader zell after saha summons bahamut
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>>172615275
>per 100 cards.
You get more cards per pack though. HS only has 5. On top of that, you can't reach 100 gold a day in HS without grinding a considerable amount. You don't get as many free packs either.
Literally every HS set is also flooded out the ass with completely fucking useless legendaries. Wanna know what my first pull out of WOTOG was? Fucking Anomalus. Literally no one uses that fucking thing.
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>>172615376
the chance of getting a legendary per pack is 1.5%

And I need to correct myself, the chance of getting a legendary in hearthstone is 5.37% per pack.

So given the fact that you can use 3 of the same in SV, the odds of collecting the ones you want are vastly inferior to HS.
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>>172615307
why not use this guy with the dude summoned from call of cocytus
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post meta decsk
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>>172615046
>Zeus
>Cavalier
Yeah you can safely ignore that
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>>172615576
I use that combo in JO deck.
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>>172615602
meta decsk
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>>172615574
>per pack
No, that's per card. Nobody in these threads would have 40+ legendary collections as f2p if it were 1.5% per pack.
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>>172615035
>>172615152
His voice is really great, everything sounds all gruff and serious and then his death line is full-on Shinji
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>tfw getting 5 straight concedes with aggro shadow

I rarely even drop spooky skellyman, I just have shadow reaper do most of the work.
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>>172615275
Also, this
>>172615501
There's no fucking way I'm getting two legendaries in 20 packs lol, and my luck is supposedly pretty good.
1 per 100 sounds like a fairer guess.
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>>172615602
17-0 and counting in masters
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>have 0 wyvern cavaliers
>get 3 for FREE
I'm cumming non-stop
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>>172615574
That's per card, idiot.

The chance per pack is around 11-12% since it's 1-.985^8

Do you actually play this game?
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>>172615307

Why is Windreader Zell a Dragoncraft card anyway? He's not dragon-related at all.

He should be a Neutral card

fair is fair
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can someone please post a good tog ramp list
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>>172615570
Anecdotal evidence is not valid for statistical analysis.

I also misspoke. It is not 100 cards, It is 1.5% chance per pack, vs hearthstone's 5.37%
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>>172615705
that is a pretty good deal
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>>172615307
>bullying forte
STOP ROWEN
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If there is no honest craft, what's the most dishonest craft? Rune still? Or is it Lamp Dragon?


>>172612589
Freshman Lou
Rabbit Healer
Luna

Perfect Trifecta, nothing else needed.
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>>172615602
10-1 in masters
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>>172615339
>If you're getting ramp out of her you're getting the heal 90% of the time anyway.
No shit. People here were so short-sighted and just always wanted the full effect to happen always.

I don't know about Sword yet since Gawain is still not out, but Forest got totally fucked.

I think the best crafts as of right now are Dragon > Blood > Haven. Not sure about Shadow as well though.
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>>172615705
yea but you're stuck with 3 cavaliers with SHITTY art. It's like having bootleg Yugi Oh cards except they're official

You're cursed now. XD
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>>172615602
snek hisss
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>>172615307

>Why bother with Zell when you could just Urd+Forte

Bravo /svg/. Predicting the meta like no one else.
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forest is dead guys!
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>>172615824
XD
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>>172615570
>hearthbab math
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>>172615720
and you need at least 2 if not 3 copies of each.

So you're rolling the dice many more times.
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>>172615574
When people reroll 30 - 40 free packs getting only 3 legendaries is considered shitty. How does that add up to 1.5% chznce of a legendary per pack, you moron?
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Would a deck centered around Summon Snow + Mutagenic Bolt be viable?
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>>172615943
Because you want above average when you're rerolling for it.
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I feel like right now the crafts are actually a lot more even than they have been for a while
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concede please
33398
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>>172615705
>Had to craft 2
>Going to get 3 for free by sunday
Fucking christ
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>>172615890
post dek
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>>172615831
Zell can clear a ward or a 4 hp threat.
Unless you'd burn your evo for Urd slamming cards as well.

Now if only forest has their own Zell, Anomeme will be cancer tier.
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>>172615705
Why they pick wyvern cavalier of all cards? Fucking wasted 1600 vitals from crafting it.
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>>172615929
Yeah, it is getting increasingly apparent you don't play this game at all.
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>>172615494
I'm so fucking mad at bricking with aggro Shadow, I actually dropped DoD. No more DoD Howl hands that refuse to fuck off no matter how many times I mulligan them away. You don't even need it anymore, I find Soulsquasher doing its job almost all the time.
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>>172615705
3 free cavaliers are nice
>click card
>expect cutie girl voice since girl riding in thigh highs
>MANLY MAN VOICE
What the fuck
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>>172616028

Well, you've wasted 1600 vials whether they gave out the card or not.
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>>172616046
I might switch out dod for squasher but I don't have the card right now and this is working decent for now, I just get this kind of hand sometimes.

I just really want to hit AA3 before reset
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>>172616098
I was surprised by that too. Sounded like Sugita to me (Rowen's VA). It could be the dragon speaking, not the rider.
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>>172616032
That has absolutely no relevance to the conversation whatsoever.

>>172615943
3 legendaries is close to statistically normal, what you are doing is rerolling your chances.

According to your logic, no one ever wins the lottery. And you call me the moron.
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>>172616098
>>172616150
It is sugita. Would be funny if he is doing an impression of the girl though.
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Remember kids, playing dshift is a sin so black RNGesus sends perfect curvesand topdecks

>>172615976
Like... Conjuring force snowmen deck? Why yes it would.
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>>172616010

No, I wasn't dissing the strat. The greentext was what /svg/ was saying about Zell pre-release.
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>>172615221
>>172615270
>Banished/10
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Legendary cards in hs have more value since they do not get power creeped every 3 months
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>>172616098
transman cavalier
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>>172615994
p-please anons
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>>172616236
Cerberus is eternal
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>>172616236
/hsg/ is over here >>172573813
kindly go back over there, thanks.
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>>172616236
Tell that to older Rune legendaries, Zintra,Fafnir, Otomeme and Lord of Flies.
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>have all the cards to play top-tier aggro decks
>too proud to be an aggrocuck
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>>172616236
>since they do not get power creeped every 3 months

HS is going the similar style of SV where they are gonna release an expac every 3 months now.
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>Play Haven
>Go second
>Lose
When will they fix this?
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Blood Moon and that fucking card that gives you an Evo point back is RETARDED.
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>>172616236
and they are not strong enough to win the game by themselves.
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>>172615994
>>172616268
thanks dork dragoon
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Ramp dragon mirrors are literally the most drawn out pussy footing boring crap I've ever experienced ever.
>They probably have baha so im not gonna drop mine
>Need to save my evolves for zell
>Need to save my lighting blasts for oro

20+ turns of who ramped the fastest but then who uses up their resources the slowest
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>>172616295
I want to see how gawain might bring back otomeme into sage.
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>>172616351
THIS.

Buffing Dragoncraft was a mistake.
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>>172616007
Its an unoptimized version, ill post the optimized version when i get the vials.
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>>172616236
Cerb and Ancient Elf have been 10/10 cards in literally every format. Legendaries almost always retain their initial value in Shadowverse. Fafnir is the only one that actually got power creeped, everything else that's shit, has always been shit.

>>172616295
Zirntra was never that good. Fafnir was legit cucked, yes. Otomeme was oppressive, but she didn't get power creeped, she only got answers printed for her (they went overboard). Lord of the Flies is Zirntra 2.0, it was never that good, and was never played in tier 1 decks, but people swear by it for no real reason.
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>>172616129
squasher a shit comparing to dod though

needs 4 necromancy
does nothing to non-evolved followers
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>>172616338
Moriana? I've been hoping to see a couple of lists with her.
I feel like she's undervalued considering she's a 5/5 rush for 4 mana if you have moon.

Ofcourse, everyone is just playing sneks, so they might not use her right now.
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What deck can I use Minthe (my wife) in?
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>>172616351
this is why you storm
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>>172616404
You could always use shadowverse portal to build it
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>>172616351
It's fucking horrible.

Whoever gets the quicker ramp wins.
Whoever is forced to drop Baha first loses.
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>>172616236
Yeah. It's not like people are playing Atomy again.
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>>172616395
i want to kiss a turtle's feet
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>>172616395
Otomeme at turn 5 is prime for Ancient Lion and other mass removal shit. She needs Leica, well her guards, to compete.
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>>172616150
>>172616195
Yeah, it's the dragon. When the same characters appeared in Shironeko Project/Rune Story for a collaboration, the dragon (his name is Chaos) was voiced by Sugita.
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Alright real important question sekleton Broa, yay or nay on pick related. He's slow for sure, but I feel is worth it once he is down. Thoughts?
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>>172616426
Tyrant.dek
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>>172616351
Welcome to the Grand Tournament champion.

ToG is TGT.
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>>172616338
Neutral: Execution (200 vials), Odin (3500), bahamut (3500)
Forest: Carnivorous flower (200) Sword to woodlands (200)
Shadow: goetia mage (200)
blood: Geryon (200)
Dragon: Dragonrider devil (200 ), Orb dragon (800 )
Rune: Petrification (200), shadow witch (200), Kaleido (50), Rite of exorcism (50)
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>>172616406
>Fafnir is the only one that actually got power creeped, everything else that's shit, has always been shit.

lord of the flies

got 3x of him on my initial roll when i began to play at the very end of december

will likely vial all 3 very soon because he is useless for the next 3 months like he was useless for the past 3 months
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post storm dragon decks
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>>172616406
Flies was 10/10 until he actually came out. Then everyone realized DoD was the standard in removal and you never got what you wanted 1/3 times you used him.
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>>172615705
I can finally vial those wyverns thanks cygaymes
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>>172616505

I don't think I've ever seen a reverse powercreep in a card game before. It's fun to watch it unfold.
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>>172616406
Otohime wasn't oppressive, otohime + sage commander was oppressive.
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I can see why Zell is strong but forcing you to Evo it puts me off it desu.
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burglar.dik
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>>172616587
Same can be said to lucifer prior to saha release, even though he is not a bad card he doesn't see much play.
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>>172612589

>Cerberus
>Luxhorn Sarissa
>Dire Bond
>Ancient Elf
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>>172616587
i think it's the first time it happened

i vialed one atomy but w/e, not like i like the deck anyway
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>>172616626
IKUSO
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>>172616531
Thane?
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>>172616531
Definitely worth it. Stole some wins for me. Though I'm only using two of him since I don't have a third Eachtar
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>>172616197
Nah I gave up on Conjuring Force.
Way too slow.
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>>172616587
ragnaros
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>>172616338
You haven't seen retarded until laura gives a servant of darkness storm
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65717

Can I get a concede please
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>>172616531
He doesn't fit in aggro Shadow, which is the only real Shadow deck right now, so he's shit, win more at best. Even slightly slower aggro lists with an Eachtar set for finishers shouldn't run it.

>>172616572
Lord of the Flies was never good though, he was just shitty removal bait from day 1.

>>172616581
Exactly, he was worthless from the start, and got even more worthless once Nep became the standard for slow Shadow decks. He's not last word, and he was in the same mana slot as the deck's best card (Khawy) so that sealed the deal for him.
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>>172616626
what puts me off it's that you also have to be in overflow, otherwise it would be a great early play too
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>mfw people thought Forest Lego would be OP.
>No one mentioned Heavenly Aegis.
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A player suggested I lower Wolf and Bolt to 2 (or at least bolt to 2).

If I were to do so, what should I add?
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Secret tek for my frog bros out there trying to have fun with memes till Gawain hits and we can unga and bunga once more
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>>172616818
anon's reading comprehension was in the way
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>>172616829
IMO don't lower them both to 2, you'll never pull them. I have 2 Wolves and 3 Bolts because you need to have 1 Bolt in deck and 1 in hand by turn 9.
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>>172616752
Rag was always extremely good and a solid addition to pretty much any non-aggro deck
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>>172616769
>Saha Baha Zel combo that requires even more set up and gets cucked by ward in a class with no ramp
>Good
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>yfw you lived to see tyrant become viable without haunt
why can't i hold all these shadows
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>>172616741
Yeah I'm running two of him as well. 3 could be clunky. Still I think people referring to him as a win more card are incorrect.
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>>172616795
>Lord of the Flies was never good though, he was just shitty removal bait from day 1.
wasn't he a staple in midrange/control shadow back in de
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>When you're turn 9 facing Haven and you're praying they don't drop the irremovable 10/10 from Hell.
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>>172616769
laurazel, anon. servant is small time.
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>>172616653
anon please
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Is Death's Ledger a safe vial? I can't predict how it'll see play.
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>>172616931
Yeah, but those decks sucked and he didn't really help.
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22458

Concede pls
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>>172616967

Everything is a safe vial if you never intend to use it.
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>>172616879
What should I put in place of the -1 wolf and Bolt if I do lower both?
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>>172616967
it's a possible tech in nep, there is a netdeck like that iirc on game-ai or soemthing
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>>172616880
no it was not. It was an addition to a budget deck if you didnt have anything else.

he was not good in a meta where there were 3 minions on turn 7, 2 of which were 1/1s that dealt 1-4 dmg randomly
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Daily reminder to thank the based play testers for cucking Elf scum from a decent legendary. Cygames wasn't going to make Anomaly stronger, but playtesters wanted to stay a meme.
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>>172616984
Thanks shadowbro
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>>172616932
>when you're praying they do drop the aegis
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Can someone link me to a good Sun Satan deck?

I'll use it as a skeleton for putting new cards into it.
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>>172617007
I think it's dependent on your style.

I lack the new defensive forest cards like Aerin so I have to rely on a pseudo OTK roach who bricked that is actually wolfbolt.
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okay so what do I do if this happens?
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>>172617071
>D Shit
>in this meta.
wew.
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Giving Lord of the Flies his effect on death as well would make him playable, but would he be too good?
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>>172616967
It is both near 100% impossible to build around, unreliable even if you do build around it, and has its usefulness capped by turncount.
>>
whats the meta dshift comp
>>
Can someone post the new shadow deck?
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>>172616905
I did okay with spartoi, burial, and dullahans
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>>172617071
Daria is a man
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>>172617140
Its better that way.
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I had to fucking Vial all my Standard/DE legos to fund this Ramp Dragone expensive Deck, If this shit ain't lasting for a year I'm SCREWED.
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>>172617132
They're all variants. Are you looking for a more aggro-centric shadow deck? Or mid range?
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>>172617096
nevermind it took like 40 years but I won
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>>172616967
You use him as a tyrant tutor in a neutralcraft token deck or you use him off-curve to shit out morde/khawy/thane/etc effects
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>>172617007
I've tried a bunch of options. I don't even run Selwyns, Elf Queens, Aerins, Jungle Wardens, or Lilys.

Not that they're bad, I just prefer Glimmering Wings, EPMs, Tias, Stewards, Will of the Forests, Fairy Beasts, and sometimes even Homecomings.

I think there might be some room for Beetle Warriors, Man-Eating Mangroves, and Jungle Wardens though from Tempest.
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I've got zero TOG legos.

What's the safest deck to craft right now?
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>>172617007
Vist
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Based Neutralcraft saving me in my darkest hour.
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>>172617258
Nothing. Keep farming score while everyone is trying to experiment.
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>>172617132
There's no "deck", everyone is running their own lists. Some are more aggressive, others are more midrange.
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>>172617258
Pepe sword, Aegis Haven, Ramp Dragon, Aggro or Midrange shadow with Hector
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>>172617205
Not him but I'd like to see an example of an aggro focused shadow deck
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>>172617258
Aggro Shadow.

It is the one deck that has stood through the meta of every single expansion.
>>
I have like fucking nothing in terms of leggos
Pic related plus 3 daria 1 imp dragoon 1 fafnir 1 satan
Should I even bother trying to make a deck for TotG
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Roach is oppressive? Well, here's another one to make this game even less fun.
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>>172617332
Wtf there was no tier 1 or 2 Aggro Shadow list in DE.
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>>172617109
I don't think it would matter since you're already being countered so hard by banish. What if, after getting your first guy from fanfare, you paid shadows to get additional guys until you run out of shadows or board space?
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>>172616123
No because its a good card. The difference is I would have gotten it free if I waited for a month.
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>>172617109
Why would he get a buff in a world where cards like Skullfam exist. Cards so bad, they haven't even seen play in early standard, which was a joke of a meta where Soul Dealer and Beast Dom aggro Blood decks were a thing. If they were to buff legendaries, he'd be one of the last. He's not even the worst in his own class.
>>
I'm in love with a card.
>>
How does Forest deal with 5 huge snakes??
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How and why are we getting free Wyvern Cavaliers?
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>>172617436
Hey stay away buddy, she's mine.
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>>172617490
Homecoming
>>
man, people are sleeping on aggro neutral strat. doing it with shadowcraft atm and gotten six straight wins. styx and goblin princess are pure sex
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>>172617367
Out of all the things to complain about, really dude? Kys
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>>172617320
This is one variant that an anon was testing. Some make use of 2-3 Eachtar for more reach. Mid range is more likely to make use of him and Thane.
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>>172617490
Sucking them off, probably.
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>>172617436
Hey back off buddy, she's mine.
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>>172617490
just roach their face in
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>>172617338
A lot of old stuff still hangs on. I just slipped desert rider the sausage

>>172617367
Just ward and heal bro. It's the deck you chose.
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>>172617490

Just get PtP live by turn 5-6. Ez pz
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>>172617569
Just tribunal bro
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>>172617436
Me too. I don't even have her animated.
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>>172617537
Yes I see...
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>>172617338
Don't bother with Dragon, you wouldn't be able to craft it if you dust every single card there. Shadow is also off the table without a Cerb. Blood is too memey and unstable, don't fall for the memes and wait for results. 6 legendaries is too steep a cost for a deck that turn out shit. I recommend Haven, really. It's always been the cheapest control deck requireing only 1 legendary, in this case Aegis. You only need 2 copies, the rest are the core Haven cards from standard and DE.
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>>172617569
>wells
Now that's memeing
>>
>long, drawn out matches that you win by the skin of your teeth are dead and will never come back.

It was fun while it lasted.
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>>172617490
Now you know how CBlood felt last expansion.
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>>172617537
Forgot pic.
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>>172617490
Blow up the amulet, play around vengeance, bounce with homecoming or stall with Archelon as needed, kill from hand with roachies or ptp

Neutral: Execution (200 vials), Odin (3500), bahamut (3500)
Forest: Carnivorous flower (200) Sword to woodlands (200)
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I'm climbing ranked pretty easy with Burning Blood (Aggro blood, feels like a burn deck imo.) But i'm debating using my Ramp dragon list soon since I dunno how much longer aggro blood is gonna pan out. Opinions?
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>>172617579
>people actually play Desert Minthe
>lose
Like pottery
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>>172617685
I remember seeing this but I didn't save it. Pretty cheap too.

Thanks anon
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Dragon matches against Haven are some tightest shit. This one took over 20 turns.
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>>172617660
Is there a standard decklist for aegis? I don't have any of the "core" haven cards tho, just old garuda rush shit.
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>>172617663
Not really, 3 wells and 3 front lines would go a long way to having double boost by t3 frogger then you're averaging +4 attack each turn starting on t4 white general/forge weaponry onward or cycloning them away
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Completely new to the game. Here's all the golds and legendaries I pulled from free starting packs. What do with them? I like Bloodcraft and Shadowcraft most on initial examination.
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>>172617132
Wait for a few days you filthy netdecker.
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Who's got a good dragon list?
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>>172612613
CHEEKI BREEKI I V DAMKE!
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What was his master plan?
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>>172617729

It depends on what your Ramp dragon looks like. It's a wallet deck now. Airjammer might make a midrange blood build show up which should mean you can transition to midrange with minimal investment.
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>>172617752
Did he just never draw Aegis?
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>>172617859
Tyrant + ptp
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>>172612262
Arisa, remember to use repeated Shifting Tree Dimension and Homecoming if you get the Snek so you can Bahamut
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What's the best use of vagabond pepe? Just run him in unga, or is ambush sword really back on the menu?
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>>172617859
*tyrant ethereal form*
nothing personal kid
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>>172617859
This is where his secret Bahamut tech comes into play.
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MY WIFE DOROTHY WILL ALWAYS REIGN SUPREME

FUCK OFF DRAGONKEKS
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>>172617749
There are more variants if you check the archive as well in case that one doesn't work as well
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>>172617782
Core Haven cards means Themis. If you don't have Themis, you're not playing Haven that isn't storm. The rest are just the good silvers (Radiance, Lion Spirit, Temple Defender, Unica etc...).
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>>172617945
I keep forgetting ethereal gives +2
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>>172617859
>unironically playing Desert Rider
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>>172617903

Give me a moment and i'll give you a list. I was running bahamut/Prince ramp before the update, so it uses a good chunk of that engine.
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>>172617859
To learn to use ledger to tutor tyrant

>>172617947
That's a spicy mammoth
>>
SERIOUSLY JUST FUCKING CHANGE HEAVENLY AEGIS, HOW DUMB DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO FUCKING INTRODUCE SUCH A CARD.
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>>172617859
why do you have 2 desert riders though
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>>172618016
Seraphfags whine their Seraphs getting Odin'd.
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>>172618016

t. Dragon player
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>>172617859
How's Minthe working out? I really want to make use of her.
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>>172617947
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>>172618016
Just Odin it brah
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>>172617992
>>172618032
whats this desrt rider meme
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>>172617963
Zero Themis.
Really, it's kind of amazing how I manage to have no fucking good cards at all.
Should I just quit? Try making a new account and reroll over and over?
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>>172617797
Reroll, that's a really weak pulls. Blood will be too expensive for a beginner, you'l have to give up on playing everything else for a while if you plan on playing a full control/combo Blood deck. Shadow is looking really strong though, and can be gotten extremely easy with rerolls, or if you plan on buying the prebuilt. All it needs is 3 Cerbs and 2 or 3 Eachtar for legends, and a full playset of Phantom Howl and Shadow Reaper for golds.
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>>172618076
It's a really bad card
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>>172617904
He literally couldn't. I kept him at low health all the time and the moment he would want to drop the Aegis it would be lose for him.
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>>172618056
yeah so WHAT

Lets just make a card that can't be removed because that seems fair right EX FUCKING DEE.
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>>172618016
Just Kaguya and Owlcat
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>>172618076
She's closer to a goliath
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OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
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>>172618076
>meme
You're literally running a vanilla 3/4
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>>172618180
It's your fault for not finishing this game before turn 10, my man. This is a mobile game, not MtG.
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>>172618267

Oy vey
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>>172618180

Lets just make a card that lets you flood your field with 10 cost cards.

Lets just make a card that lets you wipe the entire field.

Lets just make a card that lets you wipe only your opponents field

Lets just make a card that fills your field with good creatures

Lets just make a card that lets you take extra turns in a row.

Etc.

Welcome to card games, bucko.
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>>172618230
>random
This bitch has better aim than May.
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Minthe is my wife and nothing you idiots say will make me stop playing her.
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>>172618230
move over may, the new queen of sniping is here
>>
Alright. I have completed uploading all of the animated cards + evolutions from Tempest of the Gods that I have.

Whomever is in charge of the animated spreadsheet can add them.

gfycat.com @thedylvg/albums/animated_tempest_of_the_gods
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3x Rahab in Ramp Dragon y/n
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>>172618016
>>172618180
t9 do-nothing my man. How can Aeigis be real if Haggis isn't real?

>>172618230
What's the evolved follower on his far left?
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>>172618384
Boy, you really like watching that rugged and handsome dragon guy ram into her with his spear while she yelps and squirms, huh?
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>>172618113
Eidolon and Jeanne you have are quite vialable. They're fun to meme around with but they're kind of useless.
Or you could vial some of the other crafts leggos like Otohime, Lord of the Flies, Bloody Mary etc. if you think you'll like making some fun decks with eidolon and jeanne once you craft Haven cards.
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What does the aegis list look like? Are people running elana hybrid or just guardian sun?
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what's the hottest snek deck?
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>>172618440
yes
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>>172618440
y
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>tfw you tried to warn /svg/ about Aegis.

>everyone laughed at you.

Who is laughing now?
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>>172618440
At least 2. He's good when you nut that t2 ramp
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>play frog against haven
>always get all my amulets and buff cards and only 1 ambush character
>get tribunaled on turn 4
Every single time. Every other game I never see frog
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>>172618464

Still waiting
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I've just made a ramp deck is there any place for Ouroboros, Sibyl or Israfil?
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/4?hash=1.4.5_394.5_394.5_394.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.6CsCi.6CsCi.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.61NLm.61NLm.61NLm.6AY0A.6AY0A.6AY0A.fpoFo.fpoFo.6EM9A.6EM9A.6EM9A.694Vy.694Vy.65GMy.65GMy.61SE6.61SE6.694Vo.694Vo.6Cueo
Should i remove my odins if i have lightning blast?
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Nothing personnel, kid.
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>>172618384
>>172618475
DELETE ALL NON-BELIEVERS
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>>172618539
Me? I just kill the player

>>172618567
Yeah, you should not go into your frog vs haven and shadow. Rune will still assblast it but it doesn't matter if you do or don't cause mutagenic/caprice is board.
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Holy fucking shit
I just won against a control sword who dropped duran on turn 7 as silverbolt
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>>172618601
URAAAAA
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i want ding dong
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>>172618467
Sage Commander
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>>172618539
>play my old elana seraph for daily
>go second against another haven
>turn 8 play seraph
>she plays aegis
>spams "I will liberate you" while i pop aegis and win
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>>172618059

t10 Minth+Tyrant is really hard to deal with if you're chipping them with Rabbit + Wight pings.

The only problem is that there's no way to tutor the combo, so against Haven/Dshift it becomes a matchup relies heavily on either getting those two in your hands early, or trying not to lose while you wait to draw them.
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>>172618652
i want to ding the dong
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>>172618575
>is there any place for Ouroboros, Sibyl
Nigga are you serious?
Get rid of Sahas and Satans and put in Ouros and Sibyls
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>>172618575
>zeus
>saha without luci
>israfil
>odin and lightning blast
ouroboros, sibyl and forte are must have cards. get rid of satan and saha.
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>>172618601
i approve of this
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87110, concede please
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>>172618673
>not donging the ding
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>>172618601
WHEN

>>172618640
Start teching flowers dude
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>>172618575
You can take out Satan, Odin and Goblinmount and stick them in. If you have another Grrrrrrrrrimnir, you can take out an Aiela for him.
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>>172617102
I've been doing ok against dragon, but every shadow game was an instant loss. I tried putting fire storm in the deck for the skeles, but I didn't find any shadows before finishing for the night.
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>just spent 30k vials to update my Ramp Dragon that cost me 50k vials last xpac

Playing CCGs is fucking suffering.
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>big magical guy is just a shittier aegis that gimps your resource mechanic.

ITS NOT FAIR! HAVEN WAS ONE OF DIRT'S GOOD MATCH UPS AND NOW THEY FUCK US RAW!
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>>172618714
thanks luna
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>>172618673
>not getting donged by the ding
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>>172617320
Aggro Shadow's a bit odd in that there are so many cards that can work for it that most decks can be rather varied.

While people talk about Shadow's 7 slot, it also has some of the most crowded 2 and 3 slots in the game.

Here's a list of cards you might see in Aggro Shadow now.

>1-drops
Goblin
Skull Beast
Skeleton Fighter
Deadmoon
Soul Conversion

>2-drops
Unica
Lyrial
Sergeant
Wight
Mummy
Reaper
Conjurer
Soulsquasher
Zombie Party
Lurching Corpse
Sexton
Grave Desecration

>3-drops
Angel of the Word
Khaiza
Tenacious
Rabbit Necromancer
Skeleton Knight
Bone Chimera
Prince Catacomb
Attendant
Goblin Zombie
Buccaneer
Voices of Resentment

>4-drops
Urd
Phantom Howl
Orthrus
Necroassassin
Phantom Dragon

>5-drops
Wind God
Dance of Death
Cerberus

>7-drops
Cursed Soldier
Eachtar

If going for more midrange variants, you'd include stuff like Pact, Thane, Goblin Princess, and Death's Breath.
If going for Atomy shenanigans you'd simply slot in some Eltas, Frozen Mammoths, Atomys and maybe even Ceridwen.
You could also just throw in Tyrant as you're actually liable to get 20 shadows just going through your own skeletons.

There's a shitton of options now and this isn't even going for tech options like Goetia Mage or heavy drop surprises like Mordecai or Bahamut. It's a deck you can refine with the meta you're currently experiencing.
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>all these sheep sleeping on Minthe
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Ight, aggro blood guy, here's my rampy durgen atm. Feels right atm, odin is to be replaced with another oro but I do admit that the 3rd banish has been super handy. Baha is board wipe along with 6 cast Breath. Lightnings are either spot removal or 10 cost save throws. 15 life gain outside of oro and 6 different wards to force spell dumps etc. Seig and Dragon warrior do what they normally do, which is deal with weeny boards and huge guys effectively.
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>>172618575
>>172618674
For something similar to what I'm running, take out the Satans, Sahas, Goblinmounts and Zeus. Put in Sibyls, Ouroboros', Rahabs and one more Forte.
Actually a Zeus might be better than a 3rd Forte, idk.
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Just play your 9 mana bahamut, bro
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>>172618601
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
>>
So what deck is dominating the meta now?
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I am building the ultimate witch party!
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43913

Please give concede
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>>172618924
Check back in a few weeks when there is a meta.
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Well one things for sure.

The game hella slowed down for this expac. Like really slow.
The good thing is, people actually think now for once before putting shit down.
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>>172618762
>not just unpacking those sibyls and ouros
Just get lucky familia.
>>
Can aegis be given "can't attack"?
>>
Holy fuck dragon is ridiculous

We Kaiba now
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>>172618927
Who the fuck invited grea
>>
>>172618910
>expansion is released
>every other Shadow player starts posting the most mundane kill shots ever
Sounds about right. How long did it take for "he played something, I played Khawy" posts to go out of style?
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>>172618873
But I can do the same thing on turn 9 with Midnight Haunt.
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she is so cute, i even have 2 animated ones and their animation is pretty good too

too bad she is not good

on a side note, why didn't people run assassin in albert sword, t7 albert hits face and then you ambush albert
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>>172619016
Did you read the card text?
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>>172619001
The worst part is I'm probably gonna pull only Sibyls Ouros and Israfils over the next couple months.

The exact same thing happened to me with Daria. I crafted 3 of her, then I pulled 5 Darias from packs including 1 animated version.
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>>172618948
thank you oyaji
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Look at this quick katanaer
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QUIT MOTHERFUCKER OR I'M ROPING YOU AEGIS SCUM.
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>>172618895

Did he actually have a discounted bahamut that he tried to wipe the field with?
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>>172619110
CAN EVOLVE
>>
Gibe ramp dragon list onichan
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>>172619056

Haunt only gives 13 shadows so it's not a guaranteed activator and discourages Death's Breath/Nut Squisher/etc.

Having Minthe as the other combo piece frees up how you build the deck.
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>>172619110
h-hayai
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Need help on this.

I'm trying Jeanne out because I got 2 of her. Well I won one game with her doing work so I really want to try her out.

Anything I should change here to be better?
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Anyone got the sword list with vagabond frog and frontlines?
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>>172619151
look up a bit, people have posted lists and replies
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>still playing Daria
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Does Mid Sword get destroyed by everything now?
>>
99928
Finishing 20 matches
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>Talk about SV with a group of other players
>Hear about how Ramp Dragon is getting popular in the meta on top of being powerful

H...Hear the dragon's roar?

See what happens when you meme on a craft too much? Haven became the cancer of DE with Storm and Elana, now it's probably Dragon's revenge in ToG

Unless somebody wants to correct me that is
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>>172619313
Just wait till Gawain is fixed.
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>>172619119
He didn't try but he did play a couple of Emissaries so it was one of his few possible outs. Ouroboros and the new neutral legendary could have saved him so I'm not sure what else he could have had other than maybe discounted fervors or some other trash.
>>
Guys, what if otohime was a 5/5, and the guards she summoned were 5/5 as well?
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>>172619173
another tribunal
remove tarnished
remove bahamut
add 1 more satan
3 cudgels instead of 3 lion spirit
take out for 3 aria
youre welcome
>>
Is elana worth crafting now? I've only got 1 copy of it, with no seraph at all.
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>>172619336
Tell them there is no meta.
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>>172619253
Shit has nothing to do with Daria. He didn't control the board early enough so he got punished with the soul reaper value with catacombs.
>>
>brick turn 1 with aggro shadow
>still win
wow
>>
>>172619336
Nah you're right, but Dragon isn't running completely unchecked. Aegis Haven is up there as well.
>>
>rune/forest/sword no longer exist in ladder and have devolved into memes
>dragon/blood/shadow are now the tier 1
>haven actually has a deck that counters a single craft

Is this bizarro shadowverse?
>>
>>172619346
Well, one of the outs that would have been possible if Elta didn't remove fanfares, anyway.
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>>172618872
Thanks for this post. I've never worked with a shadow deck before so this helps a lot.

I will be sure to refer back to this once I need to work out the kinks in my deck
>>
>>172619359
Guys, what if we made a better Otohime that made you sacrifice your turn 3 and 5?
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>>172619173
Where the fuck is the Aegis???
>>
>dshift mirror
>no dshift until I'm 30 cards deep into my deck
>lose
wow
skill
>>
>>172619373
Take out bellringer*
2 lion spirit
2 aria is fine
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>>172612262
is the All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor already including ToG cards?
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>>172617947
>Even Daria running Mammoth now
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>>172619346
>>172619416
couldn't he survive at least one more round with breath of the salamander?
>>
>>172619439
Just get lou to fetch dshift
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>>172618872
That's shadow in general though. Aggro and Mid Shadow are the most modular decks in the game. Hell, Atomeme has all kinds of possibilities now with Elta and Gobu Princess - you don't even need to run Widows/Bellringers anymore.
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RIP Seraph
>>
>Sybil is voiced by Megumin
wew
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>>172619439
>I bricked and lost
wow
amazing
>>
>>172619427

>Blood
>Having trouble dealing with slow turns.

What a Revealing post anon.
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>>172619439
Play the cutest new girl in TotG, Lou!
That's short for Lou if you didn't know.
>>
>>172619564
>still haven't heard Sybil ingame
Fugg
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>>172619336
How are you taking to a group of other players, hmmm?
>>
>>172619491
He could have, I'm mainly talking about Emissary targets that could have been in his hand though.

Either way I just like the idea of Elta (who I had defensively evolved behind a Goblin King the prior turn) stole possible answers from him. Sahaquiel and Bahamut in particular.
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>>172619480
why even?
it's a good tech for those who can drop expensive cards earlier than others i.e. for atomeme, ramp decks and spellboost decks
>>
Dark Jeanne buffs Aegis' damage by 2 if you bring her out after him.
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>>172619564
wtf I love sybil but WHEW LAD
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>>172619674
WOW SO SURPRISING THANKS
>>
>>172619574
>revelation
>out comes a board of skeletons

Nice clear
>>
>>172619564
Deadmoon Disciple is voiced by the compensated dating voice actress.
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>>172619674
>Dark Jeanne becomes useful only if you have a specific legendary card

lel
>>
>>172619674
it's pretty obvious
>>
>>172619564
didn't even notice desu
>>
>>172619564
>tfw liked her as Futafuta but then everyone jumped on the bandwagon after she voiced Megumin and Mashu
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>>172619674
Intern-kun pls
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>met some faggot playing ER
>he dropped 12/12 hulking giant in t6 and start playing cheeky emo
>themis
>he refill his hand with melvie and proceed to do the same bullshit again
>tribunal
>drop aegis
>he tried to use that retard 3pp banish spell on aegis
>on a fucking aegis
>insta concede when he saw it didn't work
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Did a single aggro deck besides """"""""""midrange
""""""" sword survive the aggrolocaust?
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>>172619668
Cause Daria decks didn't need to become even more degenerate
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>>172619208
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>try to play commander sword against haven
>just spams tribunals and themis the whole game then just fucking drops an Aegis and calls it a day

What the fuck were those retards at Cygames thinking?
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>>172619789
Read the thread
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>>172619709
You are not meant to try pulling snek combo against aggro, just try to stabilise with heals and win by outlasting them.
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>>172619789
aggro shadow
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>>172619781
I hope earthrite stays low tier. I hope Haven also drops tiers.
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>>172613968
just use memes
memes will carry you to happiness, at the cost of all your points
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>>172619826
That's it? Time to find a new game then.
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>>172619781
>guy just wants to have fun with the magical big guy
>but has to be matched up against the literal antifun craft
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>>172619519

Lou is basically a poor man's merlin. You are not poor,are you ?
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Grimnir was a fucking mistake.
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>get haven to 1 hp with minthe+tyrant after 30 fucking heals
>he has one card left in his hand
>radiance angel
>topdecks him a tribunal
>tribunal hits tyrant
>continues to topdeck perfect answers until he wins
ep1k
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>>172619884
>playing a more expensive card that over draws you more than half the time
ok
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>>172619904
TotG was a mistake
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>>172619904

he mad cyclone.
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>9 board clears
>3 of which are banish
>More healing than haven and blood cimbined
>Infinite value card for long game
>Rush/Storm and huge followers out the ass
I can't believe how cancerous Dragon is now, I expected it to be good but not this good
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>sixth game in a row going first
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>>172619871

I doubt anyone outside of a few selected craft like haven can deal with t6 12/12 target immune,so its pot calling kettle black
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Orthrus has good ass aim
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FUCK GRIMNIR.
Fucking broken piece of shit card that shouldn't exist. Those fucking dragoncucks always drop it after their fucking turn 6 Bahamut.
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>>172620084
Orthus has good ass
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>>172620043
>9 board clears
Most people don't run 3 Bahas so it's not 9 ;-)
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>removed all officers except frogs
>put in conscription and avant blader
Is there a way to frog even harder?
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>>172620109
What does he says on japanese

Like he does a whole complete monologue and shit
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>>172620084
Orthrus makes me want to keep the dub on
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>>172618652
Why the hell Daria is keep getting merchandise. How about other girls?
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>>172620069
>play aggro shadow
>go second 4 games in a row vs aggro
>finally go first
>it's fucking control blood
>switch to unga bats for even more unga
>lose 3 in a row to control shitters
>switch to dshift
>get paired vs 2 storm dragons in a row
I want off this ride.
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>>172620124
Salamander, Grimnir, and Lightning blast with Bahas
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>>172619920

Yeah you sure told him bruh
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>>172620130
>>removed all officers except frogs
is it really a good idea

but then, if you use luminous banner..
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>people though sword/forest/rune were cygame's """"""pet""""" classes
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お母さんやりました
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I'm sorry Luna
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>>172619414
Aegis decks can pretty much hard counter draoncucks granted if they don't ramp super hard. This meta already feels like rock paper scissors
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Is Frog Lines a good deck or is it just a meme?
>>
Playing against haven makes me want to actually kill myself, who thought adding more banishes was a good idea?
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>>172620152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLkZY8GjdRw
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>was right about blood moon
>was right about aegis
>was right about grimnir
>was right about zhell

Feels good to be vindicated by history.
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>>172620215
Sword got a lot of great stuff, just wait for Gawain to be fixed.
Rune and Forest have a lot of their old stuff still doing really well, but we have to wait and see how the new cards work their way in.
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>>172619709
*hungering horde's behind you*
Pshhh, nuting personell kid.
>>
>Worst classes are now the strongest this meta
>Strongest classes are now the worst
Feels good to be living in Bizzaro verse
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Is there not an automatic way of vialing non-animated versions of cards when you have animated versions of them already?
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>playing a t9 do nothing
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>>172619480
>>172619794
Why wouldn't it? It's 3pp and you can play 0 cost followers with it. They have to baha to delete the mammoth which covers one of their flaws.

>>172619904
>tfw Grimnir is basically the death of midrange followers in your list cause he fucking deletes boards
I sure do like when 40% of an opponents deck removes anything I do after turn 10

>>172619806
That it's fine because you can play burn/storm variants to kill them before they can do nothing on turn 9?
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>>172620410
Tempo Dirt is sleeper op, you heard it here first.

Melvie and Mutagenic Bolt is underrated.
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>>172620285

Good luck trying to get to t9 when you can die to t7 15dmg storm out of nowhere.
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>>172618601
wow is this sword 2.0?
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>>172619806
they love d.shift so much they gave it to dragon and haven
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>>172618601
post dick
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What I'm getting from ToG right now is that Sword is actually needed to contain the stupid shit Dragon, Blood and Haven are outputting right now.

In the end, Honestcraft will save us after all.

I hope you fucks apologize.
>>
It's hard to deal with Ouroboros, I wish they made him 8/3 instead of 8/4.
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>>172620285
Aegis is too slow against storm ramp version.
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>>172620491

>playtested magic illusionist
>mfw

It's such a sticky card, holy shit.
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>>172620608
>8/3
whos that anon behind the mask?
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Control metagame is the thinking man's game
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>>172620608

Remember when rowenfags were literally crying tears of blood and throwing tantrum about how dragon is forgotten craft ?
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>>172620594
Not pictured: 2 Eachtar, 2 Thane

Thinking of adding a third Eachtar or trying one with Minthe but not sure yet.
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>go first
>they t5 daria flood
>calamitous curse
>t6 daria
>do it again
>t7
>again
Holy shit. Dirt is so cancerous. I wonder how I'd do against Dshift.
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>>172620215
Sword got some good stuff. People just need to figure out a good build. Rune is still a great craft and got 10/10 support.
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Dear god this frog was fucking thick
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>>172620705
>Not pictured: 2 Eachtar, 2 Thane
Well, you're not wrong.
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>>172620595
I want to see Gawain making sword good again but I can't see it happening when itbhas to compete with the newest cancer
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>play against havenshitter
>hold out literally 6 turns against the aegis
>piece of shit faggot Albert just doesn't fucking come out
>haven shitter Grimnirs me like 3 times meanwhile.

I fucking hate this retarded card so much.
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>>172620445
Can I get an answer? Am I missing this feature or is it not there?
Do I have to go through all my cards and individually vial extra un-animated cards?
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Aggro dirt rune is the only honest craft.
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Will she ever be power creeped?
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Gas the batshitters.
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To whoever yesterday suggested to open packs right to left: A++ advice, may God bless you.
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>>172620730
You're a big frog
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>>172620705
>>172620732
Fuck, I keep forgetting to add screenshots. My apologies.
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>>172620754
You gotta post the dicklist anon, we need to refine this.
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>>172620778
>playing bats
LOL
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>>172620704
You mean when that UK mag fucked up the reveal and made the card seem like irredeemable garbage?
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>>172615305
>no sahaluci
That's retarded. You'd just keep losing to Aggro shadow.

Maybe for a tourney, but there's no way in hell you don't tech vs aggro on ladder.
>>
I haven't played since RoB came out so I'm completely out of the loop. Where can I find budget deck lists so I can at least do my dailies?
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>>172620778
Batcraft was killed this expansion though
There is nothing left to gas anymore
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>we have cancer shit and vomit is dominating the game
>better make a shitton of single target and boardwide removal
>ok this makes Daria fine
>that means we can keep making cancerous board flooding cards
After snake, I wonder what they'll make.
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>>172620795
A-Anon is that Animated?
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>>172620730

Noice. Was thinking of building the same deck but I'm not sure if I should run full ambush or just rely on frog and a few other ninjas.
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>>172620838
Dragoncucks were literally in tears saying that Sybil was garbage. Look at where we are now.
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shadowcraft is pretty good
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I like my hand
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how long till angelic barrage is the new meta to clear skeletons

>>172620608
tech in angelic snipe :3
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>>172620583
Forest had forest archelon since standard and got wolf in RoB

>>172620749
Yes, it's not a big deal unless you're hurting for vials in which case you need to just arena more.
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Reminder that sword GOT cucked ... HARD.
It's legit over for you if you play sword.
Lay down and rot boyo and let dragon, haven, blood and shadow chads clear the ladder
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>>172620659
Sure, anon.
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>try playing sword for daily
>haven
>dragon
>haven
>dragon
>haven
>dragon
>one has turn 6 Bahamut, the other has an immortal card

Sword is literally fucking unplayable now.
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>>172620730
UNGH
THICC
>>
>Ouroboros is the serpent that eats itself or something
>it doesn't die to it's own fanfare
Explain this.
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>>172620906
Yes, praise kek.

I should open packs outside more often.
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>>172621028
>>172621042
Pottery
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>>172620810
Are you in masters? I fought against a list just like that like 30 mins ago. The zombie parties and soulsquisher stood out to me.
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>>172620795
I open them from right to left but only click right as the arrow is about to loop back into the left. Got this much in 170 or so packs with that trick.
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So, judging from experience and hearsay, it seems the decks to watch out for are Aegis Haven, Dirt Rune, Ramp Dragon, Moon Snake Blood and Catacomb Aggro Shadow among others while Sword and Forest hasnt exactly got a proper plan yet

Wonder what is the anti meta playstyle with this kind of deck makeup
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>>172621067
Lucky I had to craft all of mines
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Acchi? Kocchi? Docchi desu?
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>reaps your skeletons
WHAT NOW SHADOWBABS
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>>172620857
rahab, grimnir, sibyl, pucewyrm all soak up the early aggro now. sibyl, ouro, fervor is enough healing for dragon.
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>>172621085
Not him, but Zombie Party is pretty much an auto-run in Midrange Shadow and Soulsquisher is useful in any Shadow deck.

I run both and they seemed like obvious new inclusions.
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>>172612589
Vampy
Witchette Emmylou
Elf Child May
Little Soulsquasher

Patrician taste right here
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>>172621105
>Wonder what is the anti meta playstyle with this kind of deck makeup
There isn't. It's gonna be all matchups from this point on unless they do a balance patch.
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>>172621052
it's just playfully bites its own tail, man

one can't sustain themselves by eating their own body, don't you know thermodynamics
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>>172621141
Must be nice playing against a Haven that doesn't have all 3 scriptures, cudgel, judge, and themis.
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>>172621052
because ouroboros represents eternity, dumbass
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>>172620730
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>>172621205
Yeah it's a nice change
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>>172621176
Balance patch just as expac hits? I doubt it

I suppose...this is a 'balanced' meta then? Where every kind of playstyle actually is viable?

Part of me feels thats not the case
>>
>He is not playing shadow right now
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>>172621075
What are you implying? I don't play sword outside of dailies. Does that mean that an entire class should be fucking cucked? I've won more with Dragon in RoB than with sword now.
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>>172621034
care to post list?
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>>172621034

>running satan on top of 2 aegis

The absolute madman
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>>172621028

>TFW my Walfrid deck outvalues Commie shadow.
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>>172621176
>balance patch.
Why do people keep believing this will happen?
No they won't "balance" or fix anything anytime soon, it didn't happen with Daria, it won't happen now.
>>
Anyone got a spicy frog deck?
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>>172621272
dick where
>>
>>172620905
That's honestly the thought process. You have to pick and choose what you're good at and what you can counter
>>
>>172621272
post that Capitalist Walfrid Dick
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>>172621239
But I am. Farming greedy Dragonbabs is earning me my 20k score before the new season rolls around.
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Why is this man wearing a skirt and stockings /svg/?
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Just a reminder to all you ROB newfags that dragon has had a tier 1 deck in every single expansion, yet they still complain.
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>>172621263
It's winmoar as fuck but it's actually saved me a couple of times. You can play Odin or Bahamut, but I think I have enough removal as it is.
>>172621259
I'll post it in the next post
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>>172621239
Jokes on you. I'm playing dirt.
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>finally pull my first TotG legendary after 25 packs
>Dark FUCKING Jeanne
>only 4 golds from those 25 packs as well
I'm fucking done
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>>172621085
Nope. I'm still an A3 pleb. I added Soulsquasher to all my shadow decks since she can be pretty useful.
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>Sword gets turn 6 summon a 3/4 and 4 1/2s
>Blood gets a turn 6 summon 5 5/5s

EXPLAIN THIS
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>>172620815
Not quite done. Still experimenting around.
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>>172621394
wait what thats not a dude
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>>172621105
>>172621176

>deck needs to have burn that can't be outhealed
>immune to board wipes
>spam board wipes
>be able to take on magical big guy

I think it might be time to take a serious look at building a non-meme JO wizard deck that includes maybe some followers to deal with magical big guy.
>>
>win 1 match as sword craft, no replace
>make the most retarded bunga face deck
>vomit out my entire hand in turns 1-5 and hope for topdeck lethal turn 6+
>delete deck immediately afterwards
fuck i hate this class
>>
WHY THE FUCK IS AEGIS MADE?

STUPID MOTHERFUCKING CYGAMES IF I WERE A BLACK MAN WITH A BIG DING DONG YOU'RE GONNA GET IT
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>>172621235
>Balance patch just as expac hits? I doubt it
Not saying they will soon, just saying it will be rock paper scissors until then. You'll probably just see people gravitate towards the higher win % stuff.

My personal prediction is that all control decks will eventually tech cards to counter vomit aggro shadow and the meta will push all aggro decks out of circulation even more. This will mean Dirt will become even more dominant as it will counter snake.dek with Calamitous Curse and also have a better time against Dshift, which will inevitably also rise as aggro decks start dying out.

So basically:

>tier 0 cancer
Ramp Dragon

>tier 1
Dirt
Dshift

>tier 2
Haven anything besides Storm
Snek

Screencap this. This is the ultimate format in our meta. See you guys in 3 weeks because I'm going to train in the mountains until then.
>>
>use 20k dust to make a bunch of new decks
>they all suck
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>172621085
Party is MVP against Grimnir and Soulsquisher is a pretty easy take because almost every 2-drop in shadow is mediocre (he'd probably be running Unica instead) while Squisher can very occasionally devastate the opponent's anus.
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>>172621451
Listen to his voice.
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>can't netdeck a single deck because muh 70 packs with 2 legos
>too afraid of playing inomplete decks filled with filler cards
>>
>>172621085
https://twitter.com/tarakokkko/status/847537120738656256
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>>172621394
I'm pretty sure the dragon is the actual card. The girl is just his accessory.
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>>172621537
just play aggro lol
>>
GIVE ME A PEPE DECK
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>>172621497
this is what you get for not net decking
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>Decking out a SahaBaha/Isra Ramp
I'm glad that's over. Definitely would've lost if he'd been running Storm instead though.
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>>172621547
How the how the hell do people get away with playing Bone Chimera? It's so damn slow. At least Skeleton Knight kills something up front or forces the opponent to use removal.
>>
>>172621428
Which doujin is this
>>
>>172620285
>Throw together a pendant deck
>Up against a B-sword with an ultra-budget list
>I spend most of the game just deleting their board
alternating with chips and 8 dmg earthshock ogre strikes
Jesus
>>
>>172621052
Being this retard.
>>
just when you think dragon couldn't be any more fucking gay you realize they can also use grimnir

im already sick of this shit, what the fuck was cygames thinking?
>>
>>172621496
>>tier 1
>Dirt
>Dshift
Loving
Every
Laugh

Screencapped though, I'll laugh at you in three weeks.
>>
>>172620859
please respond
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>>172621624
You now need to kill both the chimera and the 2 skeletons, if you don't kill the chimera and catacomb it it'll leave 3 skellies upon death, if you kill it but not the skeletons you can put skeletons inside the skeletons.
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>>172621634
Grimnir isn't as bad as I expected. I thought he'd clear last words.
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I heard shadow is dead.
>>
>>172621147
They're not enough vs Catacomb bullshit. You absolutely need Salamander for the matchup, and Sahaluci is essential if you have to remove a fat reaper or Cerb or Echtar. It's not really pure aggro, you do fine vs. Alberto and aggro bats now, but the problem is these aggressive midrange decks that can make really good value trades and keep board momentum with orthus and shit.

Honestly, why take out Sahaluci when they're strong cards, regardless, now that we have zell, arguably the best Saha support dragon has gotten. Might as well take a defensive saha list and add a few zells for an alt win condition, rather than sticking in shit like genesis.

Maybe if the meta shifts entirely towards control/dshift or Aegis, then go pure storm. But at the moment, Aggro shadow is too much of a threat to drop sahaluci. They're probably one of my main issues when running Ramp dragon, even Aegis can be manageable with some Zell combos to kill them by turn 8.
>>
>>172621743
spicy
>>
>>172621634
If there was anybody to blame, it'd be everyone memeing on Rowen really

It didnt end well when Haven was the meme back in standard(Hello Storm, Elana and Seraph), its not like its going to end well with other crafts in the future
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>>172621341
>>172621353

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.625lm.625lm.fskF2.fskF2.65wcO.65wcO.65wcO.65BUS.65BUS.625lc.625lc.65z2e.65z2e.65-lY.65-lY.69k0M.69k0M.6Dd1i.6Dd1i.6Dd1i.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.69mSm.69mSm.6CpmS.6CpmS.6CpmS.69rKo.69rKo.69rKo.6DabS.6DabS.6DabS.62D2o.62D2o.fp1Qo.6Dd1s.6Dd1s.6Dd1s

This deck gets hard fucked by dragon and Haven but with this you can take the fight to the commies. This deck has lots of early game to fight off all the one drops and if you can drop Otohime or Floral into Walfrid it's game over for the commie scum.

Deck is pretty good against midblood too unless they get dream curve with snakes.
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>haven't lost to a single forestcuck since expansion launch
I want to feel bad for them, but them I remember how cancerous Roach was.
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>>172621728
No, Grimnir is absolutely fucking retarded and it comes out 4 turns earlier for dragon.
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>>172621806
This deck could get better once Gawain shows up.
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>>172620736
Now you know how we feel about Albert.
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>>172621497
this what you get for copying experimental decks such as mines
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>>172620730
So a lot of whole souled swing and shit to cover the frog first?
How do you cover the creed plays?
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>>172621806

Delete this, our board flood is unstoppable, do not stop it.
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>tfw missing core legendaries and golds for every single viable deck
What the fuck should I even do
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>>172621850

My fingers are crossed that Gawain can take Walfrid memes to the next level.
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>>172621624
It's 3 bodies in one card. It's one of the stickiest cards in the game and opponents are rarely able to clear it plus the skeletons afterwards especially on curve. I was running the card before ToG and he held a worthwhile place in my deck.

Incredibly often they don't bother attacking at all since 2 skeletons is worse than one. If you play Reapers in conjunction, it's insane value. With Catacomb, oh another poster went over it already.

With 3 bodies, you just have a lot more possible synergies. You have an extra skeleton for necroassassin, conversion, and Orthrus or Cerberus synergies.
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How many Israfils and Ouros in ramp?
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>>172621394
Cause they control the mans breast cancer
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>7 pp +2/+2

What did cygames mean by this?
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>>172621624
Bone chimera used to be ignored, but now that you have Prince, it becomes one of the most value 3PP for shadow.
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>>172621926
Depends which ramp version you wanna run. You need either 2 of each, or none of each.
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>>172621897
Play Hobo Frog
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>tfw things have gotten so volatile decks want to go first now
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>>172621743
Ask your other Shadowfags why they said that, they were bitching hard about ToG. Or don't, probably half the posts about any craft are made by people that actually play it and didn't just netdeck their way up the ladder.
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>>172621921
The problem is walfrid cost 8pp, so even with gawain reduction you can't do turn 5 otomeme into turn 6 walfrid.
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>>172621896
Angelic barrage will be back soon, don't worry.
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>Remove Zell cause I barely use it.
>try and replace it with anything.
>nothing fits.
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Holy shit frogs are SO GOOD.

There is no way a meme deck like this should be this good, I guess it's because it counters the most popular ones?
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>>172622074
meme with elta to deny sneks and fuck with shadowfags.
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>>172622062
>themis the shadow board
>3 skeletons for exact lethal

I-I thought we are supposed to counter this pedocraft.
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>literally cannot do my sword dailies because EVERYTHING counters sword now.
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>>172622028
>tfw Aggro Shadow mirror going second
It is such an awful feeling. It is impossible for either side to clear the other side's board so it goes to whoever gets to punch face first which is usually the player going first.
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can anyone show me a snek deck? I just got 2 of them and I have no idea how blood runs.
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>shadowcraft in post-tempest take two
l m a o
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>>172622037

I'm a quiet Shadow autist and admittedly I don't play constantly and I've only ever been excited for ToG
People in svg just like to bitch and moan about their craft, or falseflag against a craft they dislike.
I find it best to ignore almost all complaints about weakness/irrelevancy
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Has anyone tried Grimnir with Dragonclaw pendent? Does he do 5 or 8 damage with it?
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>>172622152
Just play Frog bro
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>>172622145
>yfw shadow finally stopped the haven blitzkrieg
where did it all go so right shadowbros
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>>172622195
8 dmg with it
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>>172622037
>>172622182
I'm a shadow player, yet I'm still not convinced that the desert rider will be any good.
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>>172622195

8 damage, it's nutty.
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>>172622195
8 and it's hilarious
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>>172622202
Tried that. It's godamn awful.
Haven tribunals you, Vampy Revelations you, Dragon Bahamuts you.
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>>172622195
8.
I kinda want to tech a Pendant in Ramp for extra burn damage in control/ramp mirror.
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>>172621259
Here's the list if you're still curious anon
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>>172621394
why not?
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>>172622243
You are supposed to win before baha tho.
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>>172622195
It's fucking retarded. An automatic top tier deck.
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>>172621428
I gotchu senpai

Neutral: Execution (200 vials), Odin (3500), bahamut (3500)
Forest: Carnivorous flower (200) Sword to woodlands (200)
Shadow: goetia mage (200)
blood: Geryon (200)
Dragon: Dragonrider devil (200 ), Orb dragon (800 )
Rune: Petrification (200), shadow witch (200), Kaleido (50), Rite of exorcism (50)

>>172621459
I've been whacking a lot of board flood shit with JO. Earthshock ogre and Ouroboros are fucking horrifying

>>172621494
THEY'RE SLOW, JUST KILL THEM WITH BURN AND STORM BRO

>>172621496
Shadow's basically take your AoE away from dying. Double dragon wings/barrage really activates their mf concede button
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>>172622152
Just pepe sword bro.
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>>172622243
You can buff frog to survive a revelation with the right cards and if dragon survives to Bahamut, then you are doing something wrong.
But yeah Haven is the worst matchup for frog sword, pretty much autolose
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>everyone wasting 60k vials on ramp dragon when storm/mid is going to be listed as T1 by game-ai next week
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>>172622173
if you're not fighting a lot of dragon you can get rid of the odins and execution.
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>>172622292
That's mostly only possible if they're bricking.
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>tfw 20k+ vials away from making any kind of good deck
What should I do in the meantime?
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>Drops his Snek
>Lightning Blast.
Idiot blood kid.
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>>172622351
you still can win vs haven with albert and other followers that you have
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decks need so many legendaries now, fuck
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>>172621897
Play budgets to do dailies. Craft class core cards to raise your power levels. Grind arena to fill out your standard card library then start printing vials like a madman
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>>172622195
Grimnir + 1 pendant = 8
Grimnir + 2 pendant = 12
Grimnir + 3 pendant = 16

Correct me If im wrong
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>>172622387
Commie shadow, both good and fairly cheap.
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>>172622267
what do you think about running grail instead of satan? you don't get the ward right away, but its a little more consistence. How good is kaguya? The game love giving me her, but I haven't really been able to use her at all
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>>172622387
dailies in unranked and login bonuses, should be enough to unpack/craft 3 leggos in a week
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>>172622232

She's definitely workable, I've been playing a homebrew Tyrant deck all expansion so far, but I think it's easy to say she'll take a back seat to Aggro/Eachtar if only due to Shadow's lack of tutoring.

She's super fun to play though, and has Unica-tier pseudowarding properties to go with a respectable amount of evo bulk. When you have multiple Minthes to play you can put your opponent in a "clear this creature or die" scenario which makes my pee-pee tingle. Even better when you just Tyrant them anyway.
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How many Windreader and Lightning Blasts in Ramp Dragon?
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>>172622028
>go first, can curve 1-2-catacomb before the opponent can actually do anything
>go second, can eltameme combo one turn earlier
I'm pretty happy either way.
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>>172622360
what do you mean by storm/mid?

also midrange dragon runs ramp too

>>172622380
your deck isn't aggressive enough then
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>>172622195
8/12/16 depending on how retarded your opponent is
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>>172622457
To add on, I'm running 3x Execution because without an on-curve execution sneks is an autoloss, and there are generally just a gross of nasty amulets running around right now that don't have last words.
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anyone have a frogcraft decklist
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>>172621896
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>get only 1 aegis with packs
>make a random haven deck
>win

Didn't knew was this easy
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>>172622438
I don't have any cerbs tho.
I started during DE so I rerolled for forest, then played OTK elf and daria during RoB, so now I don't have any cards for anything else.
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>>172622387
Masturbate.

>>172622442
Grail is fine, substitutes you can play in place of Satan are Odin/Bahamut depending on what you've been going up against more. Another thing I would recommend switching up with from time to time is replacing a Priest of the Cudgel with Judge or Blackened Scripture.
Kaguya is vital for the mirror match and almost guarantees you games especially if they already open up both Aegis
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#swagtown
#money
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>>172622459
>Windreader
Who?
>Lightning Blasts
3, unless you play Odin.

>>172622491
I'm the one who play against the deck with Ramp, only lost once because I bricked and can't Ramp.
Otherwise I stomp them easily.
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>>172622558
>make a shit ton of anti-aggro cards
>also make a win con that survives pretty much any hard removal
wow its almost like cygames has no idea what they are doing
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Rogue's creed interacting with frog seems random as heck
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>>172622608
Wind Reader Zell
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This expansion is fucking cancer.
Everything is retardedly OP.
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>>172622625
Use front lines instead, it works better with him
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>>172622648
>everything is op
????
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>>172622625
It only activates if you didnt attack with frog.
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>>172622648
Better than when only one thing is retardedly OP so you play that one thing or lose.
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>local Shadow Reaper: "I am growing stronger"
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-3 gawain because of the maintenance.
is this build viable?
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>>172622625
End of turns procs go in order of play.

So you have to have played Frog before the Creed. If you play Creed then Frog, he regains his ambush after the Creed procs and hits nothing.

You're much better off just running Frontlines anyways though.
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>>172622647
Ah, some build run him at 3, some don't.
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>>172622648
then what the fuck are you complaining about
if everything is OP then the game is balanced
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>>172622459
Running only 2 Blast and 2 Readers >>172621867

>>172622608
2/2 Card
Evolved
Evolve: Give an allied follower Storm if Overflow is active for you.
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>>172622616
>9pp do nothing is a wincon

You the kind of idiot who thinks Nep is a wincon, right?
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>>172622678
How about you play the game for a bit.
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>>172622062
Already saw some dragon dude tech lucius
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>>172622728
Earlier, I wondered if this is a truly the most 'balanced' meta we had so far, where everything can succeed and is viable

But part of me feels that its not quite like that...
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I' m a casual swordfag, who stopped playing a while back.
I was using the banner meme deck, is there a better updated sword decklist that wouldn't be too expensive to make.
Also would appreciate a shadows decklist.
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>>172622802
panty cannon sword
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>>172622448
Not him but aren't you exaggerating a bit? unpacking/getting enough vials to craft 1 lego in a week is pretty normal yeah and 2 legos in a week should be possible with a little bit of luck. But 3 would require extreme luck imo.
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>>172622712
Well then that's good to know
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>tfw coming out the other end of two Cudgels, a Themis and a few heals
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>>172622728
No. it means whoever draws their fucking shit first wins and there is no counter play to anything.
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>>172622028
Going first was always better in aggro mirrors.
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>>172622802
you can play the hobo frog deck
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>>172622823
Not even Holy Bowman Kel in Elana?

0/10 this Elana
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>just themis his snakes turn 7
>could win the game turn 9 but do it again just to piss him off
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>>172622836
But Dragon also wants to go first, because that's the best way to capitalize on the tempo boost of the ramp.
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>play against dragon
>Bahamut+Grimnir
>Bahamut+Grimnir
>Bahamut+Grimnir
>Bahamut+Grimnir
>Bahamut+Grimnir

FUCKING STOP
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Help, I'm losing with Dragon. Even in the mirrors, I'm doing something wrong or lacking win cons or something. I'm using this list https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.6CsCi.6CsCi.6CsCi.694Vy.694Vy.694Vy.61SDy.61SDy.6Cuey.6Cuey.694Vo.694Vo.694Vo.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.6AY0A.6AY0A.6AY0A.6ELQc.6ELQc.6ENss.6ENss.6ENss.6EQIo.6EQIo.6EQIo.62zty.62zty.6EQIy.6EQIy.6EM9A.6Cp_w.6Cp_w
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>>172622914
>>172622914
>>172622914

new thread
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>>172622825
You mean like every CCG ever?
Nobody plays CCGs for the gameplay, they're about deckbuilding and rank grind.
And I find trying to make my deck that tiniest bit more consistent to improve my win rate to be great fun.
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>>172622903
Stop replying to yourself.
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So I just discovered that if you use Themis with Lecia on the board, all officers under her effect will survive.

Use this information wisely, sword bros.
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>>172622648
you need to give it time. soon one deck will prove to be the best and then the meta will be dictated around it and things will balance out.

my money is on forest somehow coming out on top again.
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>>172620761
She already is. If you still use her you're a fucktard lol
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>>172622941
Oh, the autist is awake.
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>>172622912
Error, just screenshot or post code.
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>>172622912
>using a theory craft netdeck
anon I swear
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>>172622648
>tfw pendant list is legit with its retarded burn damage and board clear
If people thought shift/daria/blood was bad jesus

>>172622648
The idea is to widen the deck pool so that no one deck can ram through anything and that no one deck can control anything.so then it becomes sliding bars of how much do you want to win more vs x and how much you want to not lose to x.
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>>172623071
But the shell is correct right?
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>>172622802
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>>172623043
Drop your fucking name and flag already you fucking shitposter. There's a lot more than 1 person that has a problem with you being a twat all the time.
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>>172622946
That's literally what her text says.
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>>172623261
You can stop shitposting now, love.
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>>172623356
When you drop your fucking name and pass or leave. It's an anonymous imageboard, if you don't like it, fucking leave you autistic piece of shit. Honestly what the fuck is wrong with you.
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Commandercraft is fucking hilarious when it works.
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>>172623261
Just filter
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>>172623425
It's a shame that you feel that way. I will stop feeding you now, troll, but feel free to keep handing me (you)s as usual. I couldn't keep doing this without your support.
>>
My deck isn't very Faerie heavy so sometimes Tia is just kind of a dead draw.

What are other suggestions you guys recommend?
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>>172623437
Ignoring a tumor doesn't stop it from killing you
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>>172623552
Feeding it will work out then
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>>172623527
Are you not self-aware or are you this autistic?
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>>172623434
Should be good against Elana. You should be able to outvalue them.
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>>172616565
>Sword: Nothing
Better have 7000 spare vials
All I wanted was some heals and amulet removal without buying Odins, instead it went to dragon.
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>>172623858
Execution my man. Odin wont save you from the snek-o-caust
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>>172623302

I just couldn't believe the card was that good.

Lecia will legit be a new staple if Aegis Haven gets popular.
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Just pulled Orihime, what's the use of this card?
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>>172624292
any point running both ToS and guardian?
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>>172624452
We don't have an orihime

>>172624554
Not him, probably consistency
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>>172624648

>Otohime

Sorry, 5 am and spelling isn't my strong suit with these jap names. Still got no idea if she's grind or not.
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>>172624847
Once gawain is debugged and unlocked, she's part of a castle i nthe sky deck to ramp leonidas for a t8-9 otk with swordsman-otohime/17 face otohime
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>>172621205
>jugde
>themis
I don't think they would've helped on turn 4.
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>>172616565
Save us Gawain
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>>172622709
Needs more Bane and Execution instead of DoD
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