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I wish she was real edition!

RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF

>The Firekeeper is hiding a thicc ass under her robes

>Previous thread: >>172560295

>Ringed City items checklist (if you find an error, please reply and correct):
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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post anime
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>>172573023
too early op
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Is 140 too high to get invaded or get summoned for the new monk?
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Anyone wanna help a Anon out on the Midir boss fight on PS4?

Password is Sword
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>>172573229
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hot bareback sex with painter
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need summons at gravekeeper/greatwolf
PC
SL:70
password: 123
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I can't get by poison swamp in the DLC )=
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>>172573419
I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine after
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I just invaded a guy with two phantoms. Both the host and one of the phantoms had the meme dual wield greatsword and the other phantom had rosarias scythe.

I never know people like that actually existed in real life
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>>172573374
nobody knows what the level range for it is I think
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>>172573680
You don't have to
Check the shack at the edge of the cliff by the second angel
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>>172573690
Sure. Hold on a minute thought,I just got summoned for a fight.
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>>172573680
Run along the righthand side, there'll be an alcove you can hide in with some fat machete guys in it. At the back right corner of the swamp you'll see a root you can go up, follow it up and you should come across a thrall with a poison-resin'd flamberge. Look directly behind you and go onto the wooden roofs, the third angel's balls are over there. Once you smash them the swamp is just a pit full of loot plus a hot pyromancer.
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>kill the three Obese Knights before the swamp
>make my way down the stairs
>three more spawn

SASUGA FROM
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PC FC - Depths of the Painting
pass: dsg
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>post yfw the door shields are actually fucking amazing in 1on1 fights
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Who here is /bannerbro/?
War Banner buff is sick, not even mad that I have to 1h
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Does anyone have a closeup of Midir's eye(s)?
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>>172573939
Lapp won't give you a slab until you get the favor +3 ring in the swamp though, it's really not a great idea to skip it
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What the fuck is going on with the lore

>turns out the dark soul is actually responsible for the age of dark
>the age where everyone turns into soulless husks is somehow caused by the soul that gave said husks humanity
>Gael finds the dark soul and consumes it basically bringing everything back to the age of gray
>whatever ending you did doesn't matter because of a literal hard reset
>meanwhile the painter girl is making a new world using the remnants of the dark soul
>implications that all of the Dark Souls trilogy was just another painting that went to shit so now everyone is moving to the new one the painter girl is making
>people theorizing that the painter girl is painting Bloodborne's world because she's using blood
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>>172574162
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>>172574138
>have to 1h
What now? Onehanded attack speed is miserable.
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>>172574273

Thank you, Anon!
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>>172573601
laggy as hell for me.
Couldn't even enter the fog

rip
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>>172574273
>he he he he he
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Reminder that Gael whimpers in pain during P3
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>>172573690
You still there? My password is Sword
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>>172574328
I use it in my offhand. To get the buff, it needs to be active. Ergo I have to 1h my other weapon.
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Obligatory collage post.
Feed me screenshots!
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Alright, I'm sick of this.

Midir is an awful bossfight.
Every single time I attempt him I can manage to get him down to less than half with Pestilent Mercury and a phantom or two... But every time Midir pulls some bullshit and either one-shots me, or two-shots me.

So, I'm asking for one of you beautiful bastards with Cheat Engine or whatever to help me kill that scaly son of a bitch dead.
Just one-shot his shit.

Place your sign(s) down at the hole to the bossfight.

Password is newfag,
Platform is PC,
SL 130.
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>>172573023
I think I've died at least 30 times in the inner ringed city bonfire area. What a fuckfest.
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>>172574495
I don't have CE but I can help you if you first help yourself and slap FaP+3 and Life Ring +3 on
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>>172574495
this is a new type of desperate
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>>172574483
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>>172574438
Where you want the sign?
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>>172574483
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What are the chances of me getting DING DONG BANNU'd if I change my stats but maintain the same soul level?
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does anyone have ledo's greathammer who doesn't need it on ps4? i've already killed all the bosses so he can't invade me
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>>172574495
I'm with you 100%
Absolutely fuck this boss.
Remember when hard bosses didn't have 10,000,000 health to balance out how they were hard and could kill you in one hit.
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>>172574476
Ah, I see. Weight won't let me do that, so I didn't even consider it.
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>>172574185
That's wrong.
As long as you cross the 3rd bonfire after he tells you about the treasure, he'll give it to you.
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Is the Cathedral Knight UGS still shit?
What's a good UGS for a pure STR build?
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So what are the best and most practical miracles, sorceries, and pyromancies?
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>>172574743

Have you tried it? Sometimes NPC invasions work even if the boss is dead.
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CEfags, do you launch the game with your internet disconnected, or do you just use the option that sets the default to launch the game in offline mode? I've heard (anecdotaly) that even in "offline mode" the game still has savegame checks performed by calling back to the server, so it's safer to just totally disconnect.
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>>172574254

Yeah it's fucked.
Although it might not be a Hard Reset, rather it's more like Gael sorta brought on the End of the World. But basically Age of Gray 2.0/Age of Ash.

The natural forces in the world seem to have been fucked over by Gwyn and his seal (Which is the Dark Sign, apparently.)
So, as a result apparently because of Gwyn's actions a true Age of Dark can't happen anymore.
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>>172574843
Greatsword gets the best AR.
Cathedral UGS is good now in terms of damage. It has the advantage of being relatively light for a UGS and having lower stamina costs than those with competing AR. But it's short, and that's a big downside.
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>>172574959
i'm at the area now and there's no sign of him
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BB > DeS = DS > DS3 > DS2

If you disagree with this, you have shit taste.
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>>172574961
If you set Steam to offline the game is truly offline, I think.
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>>172574495
>>172574815
These posts make me sad.
Many people here have killed Midir solo perfectly fine.

stop summoning phantoms and padding his health, learn his attacks and git gud
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>>172574990
a year later I still don't fully understand what the fuck even happened in the usurp ending
now we have this DLC where it turns out that it doesn't matter because few minutes later some slave dude is gonna destroy the source of the dark
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>>172574594

I don't even care anymore just fuck Mimir's shit up.
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>>172574959
>>172575021
oh apparently i can res Halflight at the monument and then he will invade
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>>172575024
On release day:

BB > DeS > SOTFS > DS3 > DS2 > DS1

A year after release, including patches and community fixes:

DS1 > BB > DeS > SOTFS > DS3 > DS2

In 2017, compared to current-gen games:

BB > DS1 > DS3 > SOTFS > DeS > DS2
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>>172575137
Nah
Midir is an objectively badly designed boss fight
He's a literal bullet sponge, he's the hardest boss in the game but in a bad way
Bosses like Nameless King, Sister Freide and Gael, now these are bosses that are really hard but in a good way
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>>172575137

I've tried damnit, I've tried.
I've learned his patterns, I've tried it solo,
But every damn time that scaly fuck wins.
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>>172574070
Real bad area design in that part honestly.
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>>172575137
I'm not them, but I can't do it.
I'm a pyromancer.
On NG+4.
With no respecs.
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>>172574495
>>172574815

He's just fucking King of the Storm 2.
Avoid slow attacks. Hit head. Do critical attack for 30% of his health. End of story.
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>>172575024
DS3 > BB > DS = DS2

I never played DeS because no PS3
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I SHALL NOT PARTAKE!
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>get Dickeater Mid-air down to super slow health
>he jumps backward twice in a row instantly putting the entire distance of the arena between us
>then he does his laser bullshit that is nigh undodgeable and instant kills me even at full health

Great
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>>172575471
DeS is bloodborne-level atmosphere with DS2 mechanics.
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>>172573023
moar qt Firegril art.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdByf0lP-qM
>this will never be used
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>>172574076
you lie
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>>172575327
>hardest boss in the game
Seriously, just play and stop complaining. "B-but muh one-shot". If he hits you with the laser, you probably have slower reaction time than a snail.
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>mfw I always lock-on to Midir and don't have any trouble with the camera
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>>172575431
HOW the FUCK would you do a crit against him? I have slapped him with my entire endurance bar's worth of damage and have never seen a crit state

The closest I saw was him getting tired after firing his shoop da whoop but I couldn't seem to initiate a crit stab
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>all these anons complaining about the bosses
>in 1 month after they figure out the attack patterns they will be shitposting about how easy they were, and anyone who still needs help will get laughed at
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Why does casting spells cause me to use stamina, this is fucking stupid I hate it
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Post your Midir victory shots!
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>>172575745
His health bar is actually a lie because he loses ~20-30% of it in a scripted stagger after he reaches 30% HP
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>>172574483
I have a thing for posing
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>>172575313
Your second list is correct, though I would say DeS is equal to BB.
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Now that the ash has settled, what was your favourite
>weapon
>armor set
>boss
>area
from TRC?
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>>172575579

>Fighting Midir for ages
>Get him down to 2% health with a critical hit
>He leaps back three times and tries to rules of nature deathbeam me
>By sheer willpower manage to race across the entire arena avoiding all the hits
>Get beneath him and wait for his head to fall
>Kill him while he's tired

>>172575802
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>>172575579
>Nigh undodgeable
roll
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>>172575883
Is it after a laser? Do you stand against his snout to make it work, or what?
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>>172575784
so you don't spam it, then again fp exists
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>>172574495
>Midir

Even DSP can beat him.
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>>172575748
Any boss that takes upwards of 8 minutes to kill and carries instantkill potential will always be hard. The combination of a tediously long runtime that makes players prone to lose focus as they get bored with it and extremely high damage when you make a mistake because you lost focus means that even the best players will die to these faggots a year from now.

It's sort of like how nobody laughs when somebody asks for help on Ancient Dragon. You can't really be smug about repeating a simple task without error for several consecutive minutes or judge someone harshly for not being patient enough to perform said repetitive task with consistency.
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>>172576007

Fuck is that a video yet? I want to hear him say WOW every time Midir gets a hit on him.
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>>172576007
I feel like people who say this kind of shit don't ever go past NG+2
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Anyone on PS4 mind getting through the AoA dlc with me. Trying to get to the TRC dlc low level my password willbe snow and I'll be at the first bonefire of the dlc
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>>172575972
>>172575579
You don't even have to roll, if you just run in one direction it will not hit. I can't believe people like the greentexter managed to get this far without dying to "near undodgeable" cars in real life.
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>>172575994
You'll know when he staggers.
he rears up and then slumps down like he does on the bridge (of you managed to do that)

Then you just go up to his head and boop.
Not a garuntee'd kill at that point though, he usually has a few hits left in him.
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At what point does the Raw ASS start to become obsolete? I've been using it for a caster playthrough because of the low requirements but I don't want to start spending chunks on it just for it to become useless 5 minute later.
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>>172576160

No, he's still streaming it.
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>>172575905
>>weapon
I don't think I've used any, except for a quick test of Gael's sword
>>armor set
I R O N D R A G O N S L A Y E R
>>boss
Midir
>>area
Dreg heap
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why does demon prince have 209876543456789 hp its so tedious that i dont even want to bother but i want to see the rest of the dlc damnit

this is what i get for not playing ds3 for 6 months
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>>172576165
I'm coming my friend.
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>>172576007
you shouldn't be summoning anyone, just solo him

stay out of range as far as you can and turn lock off when rolling his charges, wait until one of his long range moves finishes and he stays still for like two seconds, deal damage. there you go.
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Guys... what if the Furtive Pygmy has been in every game and we just didn't notice him? W-what if Miyazaki only wanted one game and keeps rehashing the same shit because we kept missing it?
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>>172576282

Reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oA9IRIuX3o
Skip to 1:01 if you want.
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>>172574483
yaay mine's there.
my farewell to this cancerous series.
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>>172575734
No lie.
>>172574076
Come join the depths of the painting. it's active.!
pass : dsg
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>>172576330
>Demon Prince HP
You're in for a ride, my friend
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>>172576347
Thanks anon i have pretty low damage output rn just a heads up but I'm good on hp
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Do I need to put down a red sign or a white sign to be summoned as the monk boss?
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>>172576330
>thinks Demon Prince health is bullshit

You're in for a treat.
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>>172574483
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>giant swamp crabs
>giant lava crabs
>giant water crabs
>giant ice crabs

>no dark/abyss crab in the new DLC

ONE FUCKING JOB FROMSOFT
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>>172576417
Fuck, I jumped
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>>172576410
He appears in every canon game though
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>>172573023
>Summon Shira for the dragon
>she just stands there at spawn leaving me to fight a +20% dragon all on my own
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>>172573023
Nothing changes in dlc 2 depending on your ending, correct?
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>>172576486
No, you just wait
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What do I do now ?
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>>172576410
Patches is the furtive pygmy and he is above your wordly wants.
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It's not that Midir is overly hard.
He just has too much health and the things that he does to instantly kill you don't have a clear visual read for dodging.
It's tedious and irritating.
I've tried him twice and I already give up.
Those two attempts were like 15 minutes each.
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>>172576330
hes got massive deadzone underneath him. Doable, but too much health (for an 83 sl)
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>>172576465
do i place my sign next to the bonfire? had it down for a couple of minutes but didn't get summoned
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>>172576614
He just wants to talk
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>>172576545
>giant water crabs
nani
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>>172575741
I beat him on my own, I'm not that same guy
He's still shit, too big and too fast for the camera is just terrible game design, wonky hitboxes where it's hard to even hit his head because he constantly moves around is objectively bad game design, having a fuckton of health that is almost like Yhorm without the Storm Ruler is objectively bad and lazy difficulty.
He's like all the worst things of a Souls boss combined into one piece of shit dragon, get over it.
Before this DLC came out, DS3 was the only Souls game with zero flawed boss fights, now this piece of shit dragon ruined that.
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>>172576614
Go get him.
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>>172574483
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>>172574483
>>172576527
If that one doesn't work here's this one
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>>172576614

Steal his car
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>>172576689
acquire proficiency.
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>summoned for church
>as usual its 3 ringed gs shitter babies
>they miss every attack and spam chugs
I have yet to face a good ringed GS user. Do they even exist?
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>>172576680
needs to be red sign
password: dsg
yes by bonfire in depths.
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>>172575675
Firekeeper is pure! PURE!.
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>get summoned as a spear of church
>note that poor guy is alone and has some newbie indicating armor
>feel bad for him, decide to just sit down and let him kill me
>he actually dies 1vs1 to that white robed helper
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>>172576689
>DS3 was the only Souls game with zero flawed boss fights, now this piece of shit dragon ruined that
Midir is one the best bosses in the series
Fight me, nerd.
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>>172576714
Amazing levitating man loses balance
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How exactly does Perseverance work? What makes it so good?

I haven't played since release and I remember it being terrible.
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What are the upsides to using the Divine Spear Fragment from rank 2 with the Spears over the Ritual Spear Fragment you get right next to the shrine? They both seem to do the same damage, have identical scaling, and share a cooldown.
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>>172576797
did I actually place down a white sign
fuck me I'm stupid
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So is Midir an everlasting dragon ?

Now that I think of it, the only actual everlasting dragons we fight in the series are Kalameet and Sinh. Does Midir make the list ?
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>be the ashen one
>usurp the flame, somehow fix everything while becoming the king of a new age of hollows that somehow have sapience
>ten minutes later everything goes to shit and the whole world turns into ash

Thanks Gale
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>>172576873
It's a buff that gives you a huge amount of poise and damage resistance for a very short window.
For small weapons it's like 2 seconds.
For greathammers it's like 6 seconds.
Crucifix and Dragon Greatshield can also trigger it with their weaponarts
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Why would Lothric War Banner WA buff be lower on PVP than on PVE?
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>>172576908
dont forget cat ring. its helpful just in case you spawn up top a lil.
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>>172576657

I think that's the only thing that really irritates me. His one hit kills aren't bad because they're slow as fuck, even his deathbeams are easily avoided if you have reaction speeds faster than a turnip's. But his huge health pool does really drag shit out.

>>172576689

>zero flawed boss fights
Ancient Wyvern.
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Anyone on xbox can drop me an iron round shield ? DaS3 tower on the wall bonfire password is dsg
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How did Gale go from being skinny to bearmode?
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>>172577039
Because every flat ar buff in the game works like this
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>>172577132
He ate the Dark Soul
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>>172577132
Ate a lot of pygmies
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>>172577132
Dark steroids
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>>172576545
>>172576684
>Not Locust crabs
>They have giant wings and can fly to land on you
>They summon tree trunks to bash you with
>When they raise up and foam at the mouth, you can hear the clacking sound of "I partake!"
>Its eye stalks are two Locust heads, so when you approach you think its just 2 Locusts
Itd be the best sendoff
>Miniature versions of it rise out of the muck as long as youre fighting it
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>>172576953
it's not like that, the world was going from bad to worse and a fresh start was needed (the painted world that required the dark soul of man).

The cycle would have been impossible to break, it keeps happening time and time again no matter what, the souls universe was doomed and impossible to fix.
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>>172577054
amazing art.
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>That terrible period between learning all the patterns and perfecting dodging them
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How Do I Get It ? xD
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>>172577132
THIS GUY GOT RIPPED IN 5 MINUTES WITH JUST ONE SIMPLE TRICK.
SPEARS OF THE CHUCH HATE HIM, PYGMIES DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS SECRET.
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>>172575905
>weapon
Frayed Blade. Haven't played with many of the weapons, thugh. Was hyped for War Banner but apart from the WA, it's meh. Great for fashion though.

>armor set
Really like the Antiquated Plain Garb and the gloves from it. It's a rogue-ish look that isn't black.

>boss
Midir because lazors. Gael can be hard and fun at the same time.

>area
The streets of the Ringed City. The alleys and stairway from Shira's room to the swamp were very reminiscent of BB, the flora gave the gardens a livelier atmosphere. Wouldn't mind a game mostly spent on a city like it, desu.
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>>172574070
>>172575346

you're not supposed to fight them.
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>>172576873
It's still terrible, anyone who's paying attention will just hit you once and then leave before you can capitalize on it. It only works against people who just blindly mash assuming you'll be stunned, or weapons so crazy slow they're a free win anyways.
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>>172577132
Pygmies give you sick gains bro
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>>172573430
>church shiv
would be great if the fp cost wasnt twice as much as a dart and didnt do half the damage of a throwing knife
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Was he autistic?
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>it's a Fromsoft DLC episode where they give huge elemental resistances to mobs and bosses so only physical damage is worth something and you're forced to bleed shit to death if you don't things to take hours
hate these
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Midir is now officially the casual filter.
Best boss.
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>>172577215
I thought usurping the flame meant breaking the cycle as it allowed hollows to exist while retaining sapience and sanity, thus making the flame redundant
Gale just destroyed everything
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>>172576347
Why'd you leave anon :(
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PC FC Depths of the Painting
pass: dsg
lay red sign
SL 120 - 125
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>Gaels greatsword is literally just a weaker black knight sword with a fun but gimmicky and less useful weapon art
so disappointing
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>>172577327
Whats the point then? It just makes exploring that area a huge pain and running through everything.
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>>172577415
>casual filter
>DSP beat it
I think your filter's broken.
To date, the best casual filter the series has ever seen is the Frigid Outskirts. It's broken more men than Midir ever will.
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>>172577412

Woah dude if you want to play Dark Souls that's fine but this is Bloodborne?

Please play this game like Bloodborne and we will actively punish you if you don't.
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*blocks your path*
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How big is Ringed City DLC.
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>>172577461
>SL 120 - 125
What a terrible level range
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>>172577415

Remind me again who the casual filters are?
Is this list right?

>DS1
Gargoyles / Capra Demon

>DS2
Ruin Sentinels / Smelter Demon

>DS3

Vordt(?) / Pontiff(?)
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>>172577364
I don't really use them, I just wanted to try them out. I kinda wish they didn't suck but on the other hand I don't want to invalidate darts.
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Goddamn it. I literally can't beat Midir. I've tried 13 times (4 of that 13 with phantoms) and I can only get maybe a fifth of his HP down. I've been trying for an hour and s half now. I'm fucking done. Is this guy easier on NG? Because I'm on NG+++.
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>>172577538
DSP is dedicated though and as you said, beat it.
He isn't in this thread whining about how 'bad' it's designed.
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>>172577573
Same size as Kiln of The First Flame
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>>172577618
>hovered on 'point down' for a moment
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I was under the impression that DSP hated these games because he was shit at them.

maybe I'm wrong?
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>>172577654
wtf I love dsp now
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Holy shit anons you were completely right on pestilent mercury for Midir (at least on NG, I assume for NG+++ and beyond too). Soul Level 40 managed to clear him easily even though I had to respec twice. If they nerf this boss in ANY fashion it would honestly be a disservice. On a side note, are there any spears of the church players I'm gonna be able to fight for the bossfight at my soul level?
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>>172577632

He's easier on NG but it's the same basic problem.
He can still kill you in one hit, he still has a mountain of health.
Literally don't bring phantoms, you're wasting your time.
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i feel kinda shitty asking but does anyone have a Soul of Midir they can drop for me? i used it on the weapon not realizing there was a spell and i dont want to go to NG+4 to get it, im on ps4 can meet you whereever
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>>172577632
Not really. He'll destroy somebody who isn't paying attention regardless of SL or NG cycle.
He doesn't give you a lot of chance for recovery if you fuck up.
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>>172577461
Changing location.
PC FC - Anor Londo bonfire / not pontiff
pass: dsg
all welcomed.
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I'm autistic and have difficulties leveling my stats and upgrading my weapons.
I can't seem to settle on a particular way to do it. So I always end up leveling my stats so they're all even and upgrading all the weapons I am competent at using, evenly.
Can someone give me an general overview of the main builds that a person can level?
Please help me decide by telling me about the different ways I can upgrade/level my stuff.
I'm not asking for any particular game in the series. I'm just asking in general for all the games.
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>>172577875
You can't drop boss souls
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>>172577875

Can't drop boss souls.
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>>172577758
The best thing about mercury is that it ignores defenses, so the defense scaling on midir in NG+'s doesn't matter. His HP pool gets bigger but that's not as much of an issue as the defense boost
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>>172577901
Ashes wasn't a safe location is why im changing.
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>>172577758

>The boss is perfectly balanced if you just use this one spell

I beat him without cheesing but I wouldn't put it that way.
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The dual shields are fucking ridiculous.

They literally hard counter all str/slow weapons. Like, you cannot damage them at all, or guard break if they have 40 END. Not even close.

This is fucking DELICIOUS. But also fucked, because STR weapons were already up shit creek against fast spammy stuff anyway.
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So what's the comprehensive list of twink-capable weapons? So far I have

Mail Breaker (Riposte with Bundles)

Astora Straight Sword (Buff)
Irithyll Straight Sword
Gotthard Twinswords (Buff)

Drakeblood Greatsword (Buff with Magic)

Astora Greatsword (Buff)

Sellsword Twinblades (Buff)
Warden Twinblades (Buff with Bleed)
Carthus Curved Sword [still op]

Exile Greatsword (Buff) [if you can manage]

Estoc (Buff)
Rapier (Buff) [if you can't use Estoc]
Crow Quills [if you must]

Dragonslayer's Axe (Buff with lightning)
Thrall Axe (Buff) [very light, very good WA]

Heysel Pick [with the right stats this will dumpster people]

<any fist weapon for parrying/stunlock>
Dark Hand [for very low SL]

Partizan (Buff) [if you have to use a spear, use this]

Lucerne (Buff)
Red Hilted Halberd (Buff) [use Perseverance]

Is there anything else people can think of?
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>>172577392

He just wanted to be loved.
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Anyone wanna help out a SL72 PS4 bro with Demon Prince?
Pass is vidya
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>>172577538
No Frigid Outskirts is the easiest area in any souls game especially on NG+. DSII is the hex souls game. Climax exists, just let go. A single great resonant soul + climax at max stregnth will kill a horse provided you fully stack damage (Domino mask + Blue Dagger + Abyss Seal + Dark Clutch + Dark Chime of Want +5) Soul Memory blows but just let loose for once and enjoy the ease of being a hexer for this area.
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>>172577412
Strange because AoA was much better in this aspect where not every mob/boss had a ton of hp+defenses against everything.
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>>172577913
Do you mean upgrading str and dex for a quality build or literally EVERY stat the same? If so you best respec or restart cause you fucked up.

Anyway, the 4 main specs for actually using different weapons and spells are

Strength
Dexterity
Intelligence
Faith

These can overlap, but trying to be a jack of all trades with absolutely everything will leave you underpowered and not all that versatile.
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Anyone want to help with Midir on ps4? Password is midir
NG++
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>>172577923
>>172577962
fuck...you can still drop weapons tho right? because my plan was to kill demon princes on another character and have them drop the fire scimitar while i used the soul from my main character to make the spell
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>>172578121
Sign is down
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I figured SSTB would probably be the best way to use frost weapon, but it was shit the last time I tried. If the buildup good enough to get it guaranteed in an R1-WA combo now? And why the fuck does great magic weapon suck so much, even with 20 int it adds less than resin.
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>>172578121
I'll help too pls wait
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>>172577913

Try to not level up more than one or two offensive stats (str, dex, fth, int).
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Is there any way to make hex/dark magic builds work in this game? I've been running 40/40 int/faith and honestly not feeling it anymore now that I've gotten to Midir. From really didn't make it possible to try and optimize anyone who wanted to do a pure dark magic or pure mage build.

Any suggestions? At this point I'm thinking about just making my build a dex/int type with minimal faith to use some of the dark miracles [though honestly the only viable one for both PvE and PvP I find is Dorhys Gnawing.

What other builds should I try? I want something kinda unorthodox, not the standard str or dex build or 40/40 in both. Also I like playing edgy characters so something that would fit that Pls help me /dsg/
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Why are people memeing that midir is hard?
All of his ridiculously telegraphed attacks give you a year to hit his head and he fires his laser in the same pattern after the same attack every time.
He doesn't even have as much health as gael or the demon prince's three health bars if you consistently hit his head.
I personally found him difficult, but only because I'm garbage at this game.
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Is there anything worse than the "so ez"fags ?
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>>172577913
Strength, dex, int, faith.
Builds center around typically one of those 4 offensive stats, which are leveled alongside HP and stamina. Raise equip load as needed.
Every stat softcaps at 40, so when you reach 40 in your main offensive stat, you can choose to continue to strength your ability to deal damage by leveling a second offensive stat. For example, mixing dexterity and faith provides powerful weapon buffs that your quick weapons can take full advantage of. One of the most common and popular build paths is called 'quality' and entails leveling strength and dex evenly to maximize the damage of weapons that scale with both. This gives you access to the full array of physical weapons to use effectively.

Just note that intelligence and faith both require a much larger investment than strength and dexterity before they see good returns, and splitting points among them and other stats early on can leave you severely lacking damage.
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>>172577875
the spell is pretty shit anyway my dude
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>>172578178
I usually try to be jack of all trades.
So how do I level those 4 stats you're talking about?
What about the other stats? I know what they do but are there only 4 builds or combinations of those 4? How are they different?
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>>172578091
>Like, you cannot damage them at all, or guard break if they have 40 END
even the dual ultragreatswords?
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Anyone chatting shit about midir being EZ wanna fukken prove it?
put down your signs lads you can solo him with double health.
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Could anyone help at midir?

I've gotten this faggot to 10-30% 5 times already, but i make one tiny mistake and it all gets fucked up again.

It's like juggling wet soap for 20 minutes.

pass: dsg
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>>172577632
stay in front of him at all times.

go for the head thats his weakpoint.

stay close as well cause after most of his attacks he leaves a window for at least 1-2 hits.

lighting damage is good.

stack fire/physical defense. maybe even use those bug pellets.
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>come back for the dlc
>white screen on startup crash is back

Sigh. Did someone ever figure out a fix for that? Everything I find is retards dumb suggestions.
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>>172578124
>using climax against horses
If this is bait, consider it successful.
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>>172576845

my standard spear tactic when against a lone person is to make it as similar to a real boss as possible, and I fight them in phases:

phase 1: walk slowly a distance away just to make sure my soulmass and ritual spear spells pose a threat. I never approach him and only attack if he goes for me.

phase 2: when guardian fag is dead I go aggressive with my blood rotten ghru spear and judge how good they are at pvp

phase 3: when second guardian fag spawns I remain aggressive, and generally be a huge faggot casting regeneration miracles or hidden body. if they suck shit at pvp I go easy on them and just take lazy pot shots and pressure their healing.

knowing how fucking annoying some of the douchebags playing spears are, I just don't have the conscience to bum rush people with the painting guardian still up, I at least try to make it somewhat entertaining with some gradual difficulty increase and a really weak (190 damage at +10) but still intimidating weapon.
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>>172578337
>Why are people memeing that midir is hard?
>I personally found him difficult
Cool
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>>172578440
sure let me boot up my gamecube
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>>172577286
you become the fuccboi of Gwyn u faggot.
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What are some rings/items/weapons I should use on Midir?
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>>172578412
You just block attack through their shit and hurt them easy peasy.

It's insanity.
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Nice LODs "A Team"
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>bullying everyone trying out new weapons with greatshields

STR longsword never felt so good
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>>172578225
By the bonfire, yeah? Hasn't shown up yet for me

>>172578297
Gotcha, thanks
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>>172576923

Maybe? I remember last week people spent like half a thread going back and forth trying to discuss what an actual proper "everlasting dragon" was, and if the Ash Lake Dragon, Kalameet and Sihn counted because they didn't look like the ones from the DS1 opening. There was a lot of arguments about how to classify them, but I think it was mostly agreed that it didn't entirely matter because the lore was never airtight to begin with, and that the Ancient Dragon was most certainly not a dragon.
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>He didn't fight Midir with CE
Your fault he's """"hard""""
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>>172578537
They're using obscuring ring
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>>172578537
cool fashion, friend.
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jesus why is the dragonslayer spear so good.
all i do is land the wa and its like 550 damage.

I love being a spear!
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>>172578340
post more skellyfu
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>>172578408
yeah but im all about getting everything, shit or not
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>>172578563

Did enisle teach you?
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>>172578537
what the fuck did you expect from a trash console game?
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>>172577341
This is why high level pvp is so boring. The best move in DkS3 is to out patience the other person and let them attack first.
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>>172578068
Does this mean Lex Luthor is a pussy because he uses kryptonite bullets? Respect for fighting it melee but damn thats uphill must've felt great to win that way.
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>>172578393
I see. Thanks. That seems clear enough. What about damage that doesn't scale off those stats? Doesn't that also exist?

>>172578331
Ok
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>>172578340
Yeah, "boss is bad design because I suck" fags
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>>172577532

the entire design gimmick of the DLC was area denial, if you didn't notice. you're supposed to play cautious
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>>172578335

pls halp
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>>172578616
Thanks, you too
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I want to be full weeb

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/159129
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>>172577573

from dreg heap to gael, exactly the same size as an archstone world from DeS, literally designed the same way as a DeS world in almost every respect

so basically 2 areas, 2 main bosses, and a short jog to the final boss.
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>>172578672
Thats my main problem with souls pvp. Its too easy to be passive and just avoid fightingby rolling away. And on the other side its too hard to be aggresive.
>>
pcfcbf
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>>172578672
>tfw using greatsword against straightsworders
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>>172578410

This anon explains it pretty well.
>>172578393
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>>172578684

Lex isn't a pussy, he's smart. But Lex can't then turn around and tell everyone without kryptonite that Superman is balanced as is.
But yeah though fuck all I had was a STR Longsword with lightning blade it was a solid proud win I'll say that.

Honestly I don't think FROM will nerf Midir. As broken as he is, I see him as a well deserved Fuck You to a lot of the posers who said about how EZ the bosses were only to get their asses kicked by this one.

I mean fucking hell I killed him with a fucking starter weapon people just get gud.
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>>172574483
You missed mine, anon
Now I have to dig through 2 days worth of dsg archives to find it
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>>172577913
Mundane infusion would be perfect for you, shame it was nerfed into oblivion in DSII and then non-existance for DSIII. Beating people to death with a spoon is still funny as fuck all.
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>>172578563
>not casting magic shield and replenishment via righthanded crystal chime
it's like you don't even want to win

Also consider trying out the ringed knight sword, it's a str-leaning quality SS with a usable weaponart. Would probably work better with the old wolf shield though.
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>>172579005
I rejected several due to not following the rules
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>>172578765
Didn't notice that. The dreg heap was well designed and fun to explore imo. But the ringed city itself fell short. What are some other examples of area denial in TRC?
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>>172578904

Where?
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>>172579071
rules pls?
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>>172574483
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>>172578946
>As broken as he is,
>"I killed him with a longsword guys!"
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>>172578340
yeah the "artificial difficulty" fags
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PC FC - Anor Londo / not pontiff
pass: dsg
all welcomed.
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>>172578440
Anyone?

>>172578520
no sign
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Low level build here on PS4 need help with AoA dlc at the corvian settlement bonefire. Pw is flame
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>>172576545
Fuck the giant crab enemies. They are just massive damage spunges that dont even drop any good loot
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>>172578225
>>172578297
Got one of you, but the other isn't showing up. I'm just gonna go ahead, but thanks other anon for offering
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>People saying Midir is well designed
Why is the only reliable way to beat him through cheese then?
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>>172578946
Aren't there exactly two pale tounges that exist somewhere in the base game? Everyone can have the stats for that one fight and still have 3 rebirths left for that cycle.
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>>172579248
Hold on dude, the ignition in my oven is playing up a bit.
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Im enjoying the new covenant but now im starting to realized its probably gonna be dead in a month, feels bad man
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>>172579057
I have a pirated copy of the very first PC version of DaS2 that I keep safe to replay the Mundane Madness every now and then.

550AR Santiers Spear before buffs was a wonderful, horrifying thing.
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Don't open this.
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>>172579115

It took fucking ages and I had to dodge all his shit for twenty minutes while whacking his head.
Any Tom, Dick and Harry can drop a mercury cloud and then run to the other side of the map.
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>that double point down
kek wasn't expecting you guys to hate a twinUGS user like him so much
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>>172579370
still don't see you?...
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>>172579075

the giants, the angels, the fat knights in the staircase that lets you skip 50% of the city if you go passed them. also the curse undead though to a lesser extent.
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>>172579392
I was expecting the feast.
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>>172578731
There are upgrades which remove scaling and increase your base damage greatly but these vary wildly in performance across the different games and can be very good or very bad depending on the weapon. A build which relies on no offensive stats is possible but counter-intuitive for a new player and would force you to rely heavily on outside knowledge.
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>>172579392
woah lewd
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>>172579335
Cease this shittery at once.
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>>172579392
The glorious return of All-Bones Jones
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>Beat all bosses in new DLC
>Can't beat Darkeater Midir
I think I'm done, guys. This fucking dragon is too strong and I do no damage to it even with my Wolf Greatsword +5.
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> http://gematsu.com/2017/03/dark-souls-iii-director-not-concerned-whether-not-next-game-resembles-dark-souls
> http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20011333.html

die, souls
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>>172579392
MOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>
Anyone still doing Midir on ps4?
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>>172579336

Three pale tongues, but I didn't respec.
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>>172579392
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>only real thing we've learnt about the primordial serpents is that they actually look like dinosaurs
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>Finish the DLC with my SL80 Dex build
>Start it up on my Faith/Strength build
>It's NG+, but I figure since I'm SL120 it shouldn't be a problem
>Nearly get killed by Zoey
>Miss the jump to the second Earthen Peak bonfire 5 times in a row
>Die to Demon Prince in pic related on my first try, proceed to never get as far

Am I tilting hardcore or does NG+ make that much of a difference?
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ding ding mother fuckers
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>>172579416
Point sown has become a meme now
Just do it regardless of what happens
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>>172579521

the boss is honestly easy once you figure it out, intimidating, but easy. just dodge his attacks, he will always lower his head for a hit. you can roll through his fire, but ALWAYS have a dragoncrest shield

then again I beat gael on my first try because all of his attacks had insane telegraphing and his sole strength was punishing poor roll timing with his cape.
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>>172578563
Hey I remember you. I was that Havel guy blind spotting you.
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Does the story tellers staff poisoning effect do more damage/chance of poison increase with upgrades? And can it cheese Midar?
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>>172579546
Me. Are you offering help?
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>>172579076
Anor londo!
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>>172578440
Don't even remind me anon, I play as sword and board but got fucking desperate at Midir and respecced to caster with the weirdest shit imaginable and it fucking worked:
Yorshka's Chime and Murky Longstaff, get Pestilent Mercury and Tears of Denial, you will need a minimum of 30INT and 30FTH, full Ashen Estus flasks, Young Dragon Ring, Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring, Lingering Dragoncrest Ring and Magic Clutch Ring, also a Crystal infused Estoc might come in handy.
Get to boss' face, cast pestilent mercury, refresh it when boss stops getting damage, keep tears of denial on you all times, don't even worry about your HP.
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>>172579525
>let's go back making mediocre mech games that sell poorly

genius
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>>172579525
I want a FROM sci-fi horror game
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>>172579639
well done.
how's your monster girl fetish?
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I feel the angels design is wasted, they look great but it's just a hide and seek game to kill the slugs controlling them
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>>172579443

That person might be able to help you if you tell them what system you're on.
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I'm just coming back for the ringed city dlc. Is it possible to co op with someone in a different NG level. I really don't feel like making a new character just to co op with a buddy..
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>>172574701
I too would like to know this, fuck only getting 5 respecs per NG
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Post yfw the choir in Gael phase 3 starts chanting "DARK SOOOUL"
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>>172577913
Each game is different.

Dark Souls 2 is definitely your best bet though. 20/20/20/20 is viable. (Use dark or fire infusion on a weapon with equal strength and dex scaling).

Something like a Dark Mirrah Greatsword will gain the same damage from a level in Strength, Dex, Intelligence, and Faith.

For DS1 though, get fucked. Your best bet is to stay around 20 dex/strength and level up health and everything else instead, then use a ightning or chaos weapon with no scaling.

For DS3, go quality infusion (Strength and dex) and use pyromancy (scales with int and faith).
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>>172579707

>having trouble with sword n board

fucking what. just use dragoncrest shield it literally blocks everything but like 50 damage from his flame breath.
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>>172579379
It'd stay alive if people always got a slab from winning
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>That feel when Spear of the Church fights have slowed down

I already maxed the covenant but I was kind of hoping to get past my Pale Tongues collection and reach 100+ Hosts killed.
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>>172579791
is it even possible to kill the second one?
couldn't find the slug anywhere
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>>172579697
No. I can't even get him past 1/3rd HP on NG++
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WoG is pretty fast now
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>>172579882
>only 63 tongues
You are like little baby.
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>>172579914
NG+4 pyro here. End my suffering.
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>>172579887
it's by the little houses next to the pyromancer
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Why did Gael have to wait for the end of the entire world to attack the Pygmy Lords? He couldn't just sneak up on them or something?
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>>172579882

>63 tongues
>4 ears

Classic Dark Souls 3.
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>>172579882
it's dead because clearly 90% of the game's community can't beat the fucking boss fight that lets you have the covenant
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>>172579525
Memezaki will become the new Notch, just without that gazillion dollar deal with Microsoft.
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>finally kill Demon Prince
>raise the banner to go to the Ringed City
>demons come down
>rip my legs off and carry my torso away
>YOU DIED

Fuck you Miyazaki
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>>172579982
The real fight is the camera.
5 fucking games and FROM can't get it into their heads that big enemies need the camera zoomed out if you want to see what they're fucking doing.
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I didn't kill it in time, I'm sorry anon.
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>>172579390
And a Ring to make it invisible. It really had the most overpowered builds.
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>>172579982
>equip raw DSA
>cast lightning blade

Dumb pyro.
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>>172579451
I liked the angels and cover mechanic, and the adjucator was great. The cursed undead were to keep you on your toes, and I like fighting a fat knight, but when its around 8 of them it gets tedious. Just found that most enemies were well designed and fun to fight but at times there were just too many of them and it just gets tedious, especially since everything in this dlc takes a bajillion hits.
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>>172579993
the dark soul becomes weak when the fire fades
when the fire is fine, the pygmies are too powerful
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>>172580059

Surprise laughter.
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>>172580021
Thank fuck I actually maxed Darkmoon too though, mainly off of Silver Knight grind.

>>172579979
Post yours m80, how many forked ones you got too?
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>that fucking Gael fight on NG+7

Holy shit my dick is so hard
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>>172579808
Thanks reddit.
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>>172579602
This DLC is the hardest Dark Souls has ever been, in my opinion.
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>>172580064

>5 fucking games and FROM can't get it into their heads that big enemies are shitty and boring
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I think I'm going for a DEX build next and use the Black Blade + Crow Quills because I dig the moveset.

My Question is should I spent points in INT or FTH for a buff build or do resins do the job aswell? Sca's lewds for attention.
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>>172580238
That too.
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>>172578580
To defeat Midir, one must become Midir.
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>>172579993
Didn't the sleeping princess and her eggshell stop time in the ringed city or something like that?
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>>172580238
It's weird too because in Bloodborne I noticed during Ludwig fight the camera zooms out a bit for you during fights.
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>>172580153
literally the opposite
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>>172580168
>first time I fought Gael was on NG+7
>keeps reaming my asshole
>poison him with Storyteller's Staff and run circles around the ruins
Easy fight
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>>172580130
>Using a weapon I don't have upgraded as I have no reason to ever use it except in this case

Dumb shitter
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Criticism is always appreciated.
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>>172577901
PC FC at Anor Londo / not pontiff
very active. come join.
be patient for your sign to be summoned. heavy traffic.
pass: dsg
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>>172580153
which is weird, wasn't there a mention in DaS1 that the dark souls doesn't lose power with time compared to all the other lords souls?
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>>172576236

plz respond
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>>172579887
it's close to the Within the Earthen Peak bonfire, before the Princes (you can't access it from there, though)

when you're running across the branch after Zoey, drop off onto the thing, and there should be another branch that you walk on to the right of the drop to the bonfire. he's down there
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>>172579468
Well I'm not that new, I've played over 130 hours of ds1+ds2 by now. I just wanted some opinions and guidance.

>>172579841
Looks really neutral. I guess it's safe to max my fire longsword since I'm doing ds2 right now.

>>172579057
Oh well.
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>>172580270
*unsheathes Frayed Blade*
RYUUJIN NO KEN O KURAE!
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>>172580316
I thought that the eggshell and the sleeping were two separate spells, the eggshell was Gwyn's imprisoning the Pygmies in a pocket dimension so nobody could find them, and then the sleeping was holding back time.
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>>172579959
Definitly, faith is really god now. You can even be an offensive caster with a chime.
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>>172580031

it's more that from put the pvp boss at the ass end of a dlc only reached at the ass end of the game, so the number of people actually there to fight as a spear is small.

in DeS the pvp boss was 100% mandatory, so it always had a ton of action.
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>>172580353
>ng+4
>not having at least a +9 version of every weapon
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>>172580168
>blood bandit knife on NG+7 Gael
I'm not repeating that again
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MAKE HASTE
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>>172580379
I like it
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Oh my fucking god crucifix is so good.
>tfw learning the timing to dodge delayed explosion WA so it fucks whoever is nearby for like 600 damage
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>>172580167
+224 tongues in box and +63 more vertebrae. This is also just my most used guy, my other characters have similar counts (around ~200 tongues and ~100 vertebrae each).
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Anyone wanna help a PCbro fight midir?
Summoning with password "ass"
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>>172579712
Sales aren't everything, and some AC games (like AC2) out-sold DeS or DS1 on playstation at their initial launch. DeS and DS1 have only sold more because of re-releases (DeS) and multiplatform sales (DS1), and the fact that the gaming industry is just a lot bigger now than in 2000.

Seriously though, go play Armored Core 3, Silent Line, or Last Raven and you'll realize that ~70% of the things that makes dark souls good were done first in those games.

And you better get used to it because the next game is not going to be a dark souls game, and Armored Core 6 is already in early production, according to Miyazaki.
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>>172580379
Fucking kek anon
>You done yet?
>Probably not
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>>172580379
noice
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Whats the next best SL that isn't 120? is it 90? 100?
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>>172577286
There's a hole in the wall during the elevator ride that you jump through and you drop down through the ceiling.
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>>172580414
theres a calculator in the OP where you can see the ARs of different weapons as you level up

raw is outclassed most of the time around level ~25 in the governing damage stat of the weapon
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>>172580139

there was 8 of them specifically so you wouldn't try to fight them; they're guarding a shortcut that lets you skip like 40-50% of the ringed city area.
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So this is the best dex weapon now huh
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>>172580270
>those thighs
THICCCCCCCCC
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>all these idiots summoning unbreakable patches along with 2 other phantoms then focusing the shitty 2nd npc
Holy fuck just summon 2 actual players max, 3 just makes them tanky as fuck and half the time people don't focus.
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>spend all respecs
>go to NG+
>I need TRC fast
>died 15 times of Friede
I HATE HER
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>>172580336
Why can't all enemies be poisoned or bled?
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So the ending is just like Urth of the New Sun?

1. Doing nothing will lead to an age where mankind dies out and monsters rise.
2. Doing something will speed up the process of killing off mankind, but will bring about a day where a new age of man is born.

Then I guess the option of usurpation, would essentially be like becoming the leader of the Undines in the new monster world? Right?
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>>172580659
>Its a bunch of hair
I still dont get it
What does it have to do with Midir?
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>put sign down at church
>keep getting summoned for midir

Why do people not realize that he is easier alone?
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>>172580379

Where was Locust in AoA?
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>>172580515
Why would I upgrade a weapon from one of my least favorite weapon classes and doesn't go with my build or farm up the souls to do so?
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>>172580379
What happened to the plume part?
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>>172580454
Wasn't the pocket dimension the city itself? It's not overly affected by the fire pulling everything closer to itself.
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>>172580741
it doesn't matter because in the new DLC it turns out ten minutes later some guy destroyed the dark soul and brought the world back to a state of nothing
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>>172580761
nah it's supposed to be dark flame that thickens into the blade
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>>172580436
Longsword is a strength weapon, BTW.

In DS2 dex scaling letters are lower than strength.
C Strength = A Dex

C/A = Level up both strength and dex equally
C/C = Level up strength to 40, then level up dex
C/E = Level up strength to 50, then level up dex
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>>172580182

it just reminds me entirely of demon's souls to be honest, like it's basically designed entirely like an archstone world from that game in a multitude of ways. so much so that if this DLC is anything like AotA, then they're probably making either DeS2 or a new kings field in the same vein as DeS
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>>172580768
Because he's not.
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>>172580379

Feastworthy.
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>>172580584
summoning from the bonfire.
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>>172580783
It's a transition, albeit not as smooth as the one from vanilla DaS3 edition to AoA edition
>>172580823
That was a different guy, here's his version
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>>172579670
Eh, I'll try again later. I get him under 1/4 of his hp left but then I die and the fight is such a long slog that when you lose you really don't want to try again.
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>>172580182
yeah it was at least as hard as Old Hunters as far as From games go
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>>172580170

You're welcome :^)
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>kill first mimic
>Symbol of Avarice
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>>172580584
>summoning for Midir
It's like you want bad things to happen.
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>>172580379
Dark soul side effects: easily forgotten
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>>172580835
>wasn't the pocket dimension the city itself
I would guess not, because even within the city the Pygmy Lords are sealed away -- think about it, if they weren't Gael would have already found and murdered them. Whatever magic keeps the Pygmy Lords locked away from the world (and if I'm remembering the dialogue of the lone Lord who chills near Filianore that you can talk to, it definitely is a magic seal) is independent of Filianore's spell to keep the end of the world at bay.
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>>172580379
Ebin
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So how do you spend your time, /dag/?
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What armor would suit best in trying to look like that Bloody Crow of Cainhurst?
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>>172580583
>>172579882
WATCH THIS
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>>172580270

>You are a dragon... More dragon than I...
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>>172579112
They're in the pic lad
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>>172581082
>lone Lord who chills near Filianore
wait where is he?
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>>172581076
Fine... I'll do it on my own. It's so boring though.
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>>172580316

you know how in DaS2 you could travel back in time through the memories of the dead? that's basically what the gift of filianore was for humanity, a link to the world even after they were stuck in an ashen wasteland, unable to die.

by waking her up you ended her dream and shattered that memory link, fucking you off to where you actually exist: the ashen end of time (which is why you are known as an ashen one, btw). If it wasn't for the magic time travel of bonfires, you'd be stuck there forever.
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>>172579747
Quelaag is my waifu. i'm 12 vit 16 str and 13 dex right now and I'm being told going 25 int for crystal magic weapon isn't worth because faith is better, BUT dark moon blade only has one use!!!
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>>172580583
Step it up.
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>>172581173
If you already woke Filanore up it doesn't matter because he permanently disappears once you do
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>>172581140
>billed mask
>corynx's garb
>wolf knight gauntlets and leggings

i'm just pulling this out of my ass idk what its gonna look like for real
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Is there anyway to make dark magic viable in /dsg/ III?
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>>172580379
>>172580945
>No Alva/Zullie in either one

Needless to say, the songs traditionally end in tragedy.
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>>172581082
What lone lord? You mean the crippled guy when you enter TRC?

Also, I don't know if you get transported into the future or if TRC itself was an illusion and Gael either had to wait for an eternity or proceeded to eat the pygmies as soon as Fillianore woke.
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>>172576470
>DSA cosplay
>using Black Iron Greatshield
One fucking job.
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>>172581178
it'll be even more boring when you and your bros (if they're still alive) pass the one hour mark in the fight
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>>172581342
I like the first better because it makes Gael seem more badass
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>Midir starts glowing black at half HP
>Know he's going to do an AOE
>Can't get away in time because he's fucking gigantic
>One hit killed from full HP because you have no time to run away from a nuke that big
Why do people act like this is the best DLC again?
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>>172580768
I've just started pointing down and BC-ing when they inevitably start running back towards the elevator, not worth the time when they're gonna die in 30 seconds max anyway.
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>>172580872
Okay thanks. But why is it like that only in ds2?
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>>172580659
it's just as effective on a quaility build tho
also less damages than chaos blade
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>>172580585

Gaming industry size in 2000: 8bn
Gaming industry size in 2011: ~24bn
AC2 Sales: 790,000 (PS2)
Dark Souls 1 Sales: 2.02m (PS3)

Adjusted for industry growth (larger audiences, more games being sold):

AC2 Sales: 2.37m (PS2)
Dark Souls 1 Sales: 2.02m (PS3)

DS1 outsells AC2 when you count PtD, PC, or 360 releases. PS2 might have had a larger market share than PS3 so it's a toss-up between the two which one actually sold better for its time, but DS1 did get a lot more marketing and promotion.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/268954/revenues-of-global-video-games-industry/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/47349/dark-souls/
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/2856/armored-core-2/
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>the design of the dreg heap with the tangled piles of buildings was literally Miyazaki dumping everything he had created in a heap in front of the player and saying "enjoy"
>the final state of the world, with the player in the barren featureless flat field of ash inhabited by nothing but a reskinned Darkwraith was him showing us he had finally run out of ideas
>Miyazakis creative exhaustion is also evident in the fight agsinst Gael, a blatant amalgamation of Guts and previous bosses
>the way the player keeps travelling downward in the DLC, through a series of call backs to previous games is actually the playergoing backward through time and through the series
>the world of Ariandel, which was stopped from following its natural course of burning down at the end of each cycle by an outside force actually represents the Dark Souls world as a whole, both in game and in the real world
>the painter, representing the game designer waits for a chance for the Souls world to burn so that she may create a new world, or franchise
>Friede, the outside force representing the playerbase forces Ariandel to sustain the world
>Miyazaki, represented by Father Ariandel literally pours his blood and tears into the Lord Vessel to sustain the world, whilst tied to a chair by Friede
>Sir Vilhelms dialogue “I've seen your kind, time and time again. Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed. Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth. But in the end, you lack the stomach. For the agony you'll bring upon yourself..." is actually referring to the Lorefags in the community picking everything apart trying to find a story
>Patches final line in the DLC "Every age, it seems, is tainted by the greed of men...Hmmm, I dunno, maybe it's just the way we are. I'll stick you in my prayers. A fine dark soul, to you" is a parting shot from Miyazaki at the fans always asking for more
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>>172581116
Sunfagging with varying degrees of success.

>>172581178
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to help, but co-op Midir has an insane amount of health.
And I'm pretty sure I'll die before Midir anyway.
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>>172580270
>>172581150
Do this while in dragon form.
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>>172581342
the guy who's dressed the same as all the other Pygmy Lords and tells you to go wake Filianore up to claim the Dark Soul
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P A R T A K E
A
R
T
A
K
E
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>tfw you invade dreg heap and the host seeds you when you're right in front of the rape angel
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>>172581505
godlike weapon art tho

and no HP drain
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>>172580890
He is, atleast for me. Phantoms die in like two to three hits and his health pool gets even larger. He also gets pretty unpredictable and likes to jump across the entire map.
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>>172581116
S L I D E RS
NOW
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>>172581116

Suffering.

LIKE A REAL FUCKIN HOLLOW
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>>172581532
Surely Memeazaki wouldn't suck his own dick that much.
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>>172581637
True.
But the real meta lies ahead.
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Does anybody know where it's specifically said that the Gwyn sent the pygmy counsel into the end of time?
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so what's the most OP bullshit pvp setup/build now?
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>Spear of the Church invasions as a full cleric with Crucifix
Is it even possible to lose?
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>Everyone having a hard time on Midir
>Boss literally does not move and just breaths fire/lasers on a narrow path
>Took him out in 30 seconds
How casual is /dsg/?
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>>172581751
flame spear washing machine
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So, in the end, what school got the best spells? Miracles, sorceries, or pyromancies?
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KINOOOO
He is kinda fun with a group. We lost though. The only time I ever succeeded to help a host with him was when I was the only summon. Gael's HP are just too sick.
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>>172581775
That's some low quality bait. Have your (You).
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well midir flew into the air and did his flying flame breath
It fucked up my camera and killed me before I could escape the AOE
Another 10 minutes wasted on this shitpile
Fourth attempt incoming
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Meanwhile in Drangleic
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>>172581775

Well yeah BUT did you do it on NG+7 with a broken sword hilt and the master set?
DIDN'T THINK SO.
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>>172581497
Because DS2 doesn't give you a 2H scaling bonus when wielding in strength, and because scaling is based on a flat bonus, not on a % of the weapon's base damage.

In DS1, you did more damage 2H because it increased your strength stat (and sometimes would have particularly strong moveset multipliers, like the black knight sword)

in DS2, AR is the same 1H or 2H, going 2H just increases the moveset multiplier damage.

So to compensate I guess someone at From decided that strength weapons would scale higher for the same letter grade so there was still a AR boost by leveling up strength.
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>>172581769
_no
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>>172579270
Pls help anons! Just need to kill Vilhelm and Friede to get to the dlc already!
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>trying to get summoned in DaS2
>SL152
not posible or game is pretty much dead?
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>>172581874
spicy
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>>172581993

What's your Soul Memory? SL means nothing in DS2.
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>>172581993
>DaS2
>SL

Whats your SM at?
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>>172581993
What's your SM?
>>
Since the Furtive Pygmy showed up in the ringed city, it got me thinking. The player character took the Dark Soul from Manus. The player is shorter than the majority of enemies in the game aside from other players and hollows, making it possible to consider them a pygmy.

Does that mean that the furtive pygmy is the player character from DaS1?

Now I understand that pygmies in DaS aren't just short people but I don't think that it's a stretch by any means.

Furthermore, assuming that previous is true, that would mean that AotA for sure predates DaS1's intro cutscene in terms of linearity.
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>>172580379
Last panel will be better without any words. Or add smug Midir
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Gimmie a faith build /dsg/.
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>>172581691

"I've seen your kind, time and time again. Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed. Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth. But in the end, you lack the stomach. For the agony you'll bring upon yourself..."

Thats probably Miyazaki mocking ENB for abandoning his playthrough of Bloodborne because he lost his stomach for it

>"a grand dark soul to you"
Its funny because you won't get to enjoy another Dark Souls anymore because there never ever will be another one
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>>172581993
SL is irrelevant in DaS2
Check your SM
Also probably most people are playing TRC this week
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From >reddit

>It’s not the world in Dark Souls that’s rotting. It’s the world of Dark Souls that is rotting.

This is a solid theory. This explains the lack of closure. The story did not end, the story of this world did. Miyazaki understands that this world and this universe cannot exist forever, so we burn it (end it on 3rd game) and paint a new world (the new game from is working on) from the pigment, that is the dark soul (or souls games in this context, learn on mistakes and use the learned things in game-dev). What do you pals think?
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>>172581351
I posted the wrong screenshot
I'm sorry, anon.
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how is the murky longstaff compared to izalith staff for dark sorceries?
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>>172582062
>since the Furtive Pygmy showed up in TRC
ay yo hol up, what was that?

>was the furtive pygmy the chosen undead
no

>pygmies in Souls aren't just short people
they're humans, that's the name for humans
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>>172582062

Humans are the descendants of the Pygmy, including the Chosen Undead.
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>>172581342

the ashen waste is the present. DaS3 the game takes place in the past, which is accessed physically through the memory of filianore, a la dark souls 2 ashen mist heart. the gift of filianore that gwyn gave man was specifically this link, and when the dream is shattered through the paradoxical act of waking her up, you get your ashen ass thrown straight back there.

the city of londor and the londor pilgrims actually come from the ashen waste, and travel to lothric specifically to travel back to the age of fire so they can die, since apparently true death is somewhat impossible there.

rewatch the intro video if you don't believe me.
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>>172581843
The most fun with phantoms is when the boss becomes rediculously tanky and has a bunch of wide, sweeping attacks to put bitches in their place and take off half their hp all at once
Wathing a boss get pingponged is no fun. I want to see a boss fight back properly
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So how long do you think it'll be till Miyazaki says, "just kidding!". And then gives us next Dark Souls covering Age of Deep?
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>>172581490
I just had a host get hit by that, then get hit by it again immediately after.
Seems like user error to me.
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>>172582135

>Its funny because you won't get to enjoy another Dark Souls anymore because there never ever will be another one

I'll probably enjoy it more knowing they wont fuck it up any more than they have.
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>>172582143
TRC isn't the last dlc
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>>172582210

>ay yo hol up, what was that?

the uncrowned pygmy lord who talks shit about gwyn by the first ringed city bonfire.
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>>172574483
I'm too dumb to think of any interesting poses.
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>want to love splitleaf GS in pvp
>the blender is predictable as fuck and people just stay out of range even with special attacks
>takes too long to start up and get staggered easily

At least S str scaling...
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>>172582382
Yes it is.
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>>172582047
assumed so , thats why i overleveled past 120 (not that i expected to play much of this)
>soul memory 2989076
not sure if i want to understand how this works ,sounds pants on head retarded
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>>172582062
CO burnt himself alive in the kiln bro
Fucking blew yourself up to extend the age of fire
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>>172581817
pyro
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>>172582382
Why do you think that?
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>>172582359

>Implying the next game won't be Deep Souls and "unrelated" to Dark Souls.
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>>172575327
lel
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>get summoned as spear of the church
>host and his raidparty of three phantoms
>have ringed knight dual swords equiped
>mash l1 while walking in the general direction of host
>dies in 1 combo

B..balanced..
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>computer restored, access to my windows.old with my old dark souls 3 character file on it
>cannot for the life of me get it to replace my new save file or bring it back

Is there any way to get my old save file back?

If I can't, will I get softbanned for replicating my character on a new save using a CE table or some shit? I'm missing out on primo DLC, yo.
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>>172582143
Wow, we truly were the Dark Soulsâ„¢ all along
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>>172581993
I see few sign for DLC at 3-4Million SM ranges honestly. Also I've been invading around at 2 Million and 5 Million SM range.

Also good lord why doesn't DS3 has Loyce GS. Something with good moveset and purely Dex.
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Patches never hollowed. He made that shit up because he didn't know where to find the purging monument and hoped you'd find it and tell him where it is, only that bit was true
Now he is charging poor hollow fucks for entry to the purging monument. The best way to make dosh at world's end.
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>>172581629
>invading dreg heap
well deserved
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>>172581140

Billed Mask
Cornyx's Garb
Undead Legion Gauntlets
Deserter Trousers
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>>172581775

I beat it on NG+4 and I don't even think it's hard, I just can't imagine doing this shit in the next couple playthroughs. It's going to be so fucking tedious as the HP goes up even more
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>>172581570
The illusion is so perfect I bet you can't even tell which one is the real Midir.
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>>172582135
>Thats probably Miyazaki mocking ENB for abandoning his playthrough of Bloodborne because he lost his stomach for it
lol, I doubt Miyazaki even acknowledges that faggot
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TFW you cant get the spear
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Is it just me or is the bastard sword underrated? It almost gets as much AR on a 27 strength 2h heavy infusion as it does on a 40/40 quality build and the stomp weapon art is a good roll catch if you use it after an R1 R1 combo

It's just got stubby reach, but with 27 strength investment you could be havel easily and hyperarmor through bigger weapons
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Just finished the DLC, an am now going to post my opinions that you don't care about.

Midir is the best boss From Software has ever designed in a Souls series. 5/5

Demon Princes is probably their best "dual boss", but they still got a lot of work. Sometimes they fight very fairly and work well together, other times they're zerging you ala Lud and Zallen style. 3/5

Gael was a joke, Midir is such more well designed boss fight. All of Gael's attacks can be avoided by dodging to his left. I was hoping for a Kos+Artorias blend based on what people said here, but he's nowhere near Kos. Also Ludwig pulled off the in-game cutscene shit better. Legit dissapointed I killed him first try. 1/5

Judicator/Spear of the Church. It's old monk but shit because of healing painting guardians spawning every 2-3 minutes. 0/5
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>>172582441
Well, at least the blender can reflect spells and thrown items
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>>172581817
Miracle casters got a massive buff with DLC.
Right now i would say it's pyro > miracles > sorcerers
Still need to play with preacher's arm though.
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>>172582382
my season pass says otherwise
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PC FC at Anor Londo
very active come join and have fun!
pass: dsg
all sl welcomed.
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>>172582234
how were you meant to get inside this memory

also note that you kind of wake up in your own tomb at the start of the game, in the "present," as it were, and this isn't you hallucinating or anything because external parties like Grierat acknowledge that the bell rang, and the Pilgrims didn't arrive in Lothric by way of Bell so that can't be the transporting mechanism.
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>>172580379
Needs more Partaking (preferably with a panel dedicated to how they hide in the swamp with only their heads showing), also Ornstein plume. Otherwise, I fucking love it.
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Ok, so is the new jumpy greatsword worse than old follower's sabre or am I just really bad?
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>>172581874
l337 backstepping skills bruh
the epitome of souls pvp for sure
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>>172582475

It is retarded, and sadly, at 2.9 mill you're probably fucked.
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>>172582708
What's the buff?
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>>172582831
Yes.
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I forgot how much fun invading was.
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>>172581874

These floaty fucking animations, goddamn.

Dark Souls 2 aged badly before it was finished.
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Why is the lone pygmy at the beginning of the DLC not with all the other pygmies killed by Gael in the ashen land?
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>>172576657
>He just has too much health and the things that he does to instantly kill you don't have a clear visual read for dodging.
So like everything in the DLC?
>>172577538
> a boss has to be difficult to be """"good"""
midir is really well designed and it baffles me that From Software made i
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>>172582675

it's gwyndolin's golden ritual spear
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>>172580270
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>>172582525
Space souls
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>>172582874
lighting arrow, speed up of the lighting storm and crucifix
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So Pontiff Sulyvahn is quite literally a tree? Or were Witchtrees humanoid at some point?
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>>172582685
It loses 40 ar against quality. A 27 str heavy claymore has as much AR with a better moveset and reach for only a few more dex points.
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>you were logged out of your account returning to the menu
>midir on 20% HP
FRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFT
>actually felt like that was the one
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>>172582970
>sci-fi souls

I'd take that.
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>>172582708
why, is lighting arrow really that good?
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>>172582898

Because, in a way, I GUESS you could say that this specific pygmy was, indeed, quite the furtive one.
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>>172582838
just wanted to farm a little to increase INT for fashion , fuck it then , will finish dlc and uninstall
somehow i just did first boss of each dlc , and last
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When is Midir going to get his HP nerfed? He's impossible as is. Spending 10+ minutes running after him only for him to jump away and eventually get one hit in for a sliver of his HP is the definition of anti-fun.
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>>172582212
Well you see, that's difficult for me to understand. By that train of logic, Manus was the pygmy since he had the Dark Soul, but Manus didn't seem all to interested in sharing. As far as I understand, Kaathe's at fault for making Manus go bananas and eat up Oolacile, but he was still killed by the PC. Was it just a case of "Heh, you thought I was dead but you you were wrong kiddo."

>>172582480
But he also went back in time and took the Dark Soul. I didn't see anything explicitly saying that SoC is a bunch of PC's, but if there is something to that effect I would like to see it.

>>172582474
>>172582503
>>172582737
There was a Famitsu article saying that there would be a third free expansion alongside the release of the the GOTY edition. Trying to find it now.
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>>172575905
>weapon
Ringed knight paired greatsword, the moveset is pure sex and I love the design even if they're oversized as fuck.
>armor set
Harald Legion set, and since it doesn't have a helmet I'm including the white preacher head.
>boss
Midir was really fucking awesome and hard, the only boss that gave me any difficulty but oh boy did he stretch my anus
>area
The final ash covered wasteland.
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Anyone on PS4 have extra soul of the demon prince they want to get rid of?
I have gael's and midir's souls for trade if you want one of them.
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>>172582143
>I've seen your kind, time and time again. Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed. Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth. But in the end, you lack the stomach. For the agony you'll bring upon yourself...
Aka dont search too deep for shit in these games

>When the world rots, we set it afire. For the sake of the next world It’s the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside
Other game studios
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>>172583052
great tracking
fast as fuck
can be delayed
can have hyperarmor while you're casting
very conservative fp consumption
~300 damage on 60 fai per shot and you can spam the thing into oblivion
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>>172583003
>implying tree boss
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>>172583134
stop posting porn. go to /b/ or some shit for that.
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>>172582669

>lol, I doubt Miyazaki even acknowledges that faggot
Don't make me search for the pic of ENB and Miyazaki having a meal together, faggot

ENB is the only one who was ever actually relevant but he has fallen quite far from grace
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>>172583003
who knows? people thought he was related to the pilgrim butterflies at first
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>>172574483
choo choo all aboard the edge train
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>>172575905
>>weapon
I haven't used any, all looked uninteresting. Though I want to make a Ledo's Hammer build
>>armor set
I haven't used any, all looked uninteresting.
>>boss
Midir, all the other bosses in the DLC were straight trash.
>>area
None, lol.
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>>172582657
It's amazing how far technology has come.
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>>172581892
>>172581497
To give you actual numbers:

Dark Souls 1 Scaling
Base Attack + (Base Attack) * Letter Grade * Stat bonus

Stat bonus:
99: 100%
40: 85%
20: 42.5%
Letter grade ranges from 15% (E) to 160% (S). So higher base damage = higher scaling for the aame stats.

Dark Souls 2 Scaling:
Base Attack + Bonus Attack * Letter Grade

Bonus attack is a DAMAGE amount (not a %) based on your stat
99: 200 < Hardcap
50: 155 < Softcap
40: 140 < Softcap
30: 110
20: 105 < Softcap
5: 50

Letter grade depends on the weapon and infusion. Generally 100% = S except for Dex, where 60% = S.

Elemental scaling is close to strength, but varies very slightly based on:
Elemental weapon with same element infusion (Fire black knight sword fire scaling)
Elemental weapon with no infusion (Black Knight Sword fire scaling)
Normal Weapon with elemental infusion (fire long sword fire scaling)
Elemental weapon with different element infusion (Lightning Black Knight Sword Fire Scaling)
etc.

There's about a 15% difference between infusing a normal weapon vs infusing an elemental weapon with that element. Not really enough to worry about. The only major difference is the dex scaling being massively lower than strenght.
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>>172581817
Sorcery is pure trash in TRC. Don't even bother. Miracles somehow became good. Crucifix is 10/10 weapon with awesome moveset and WA.
>yfw Crucifix will be nerfed in next patch
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>>172583084
I'll believe it.

Although is there specifically any item description or piece of dialogue that would point to him being the furtive pygmy himself?
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>>172582809

people have existed in the memory for an extremely long time, it predates dark souls 1. It's actually one of the concepts that they "borrowed" from bloodborne, and probably why they felt the need to plaster the game in tombstones.
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>>172583262
what are you, gay?
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>>172577538
Only beat it because he was on ng, if he was on ng+ he'd cry about it and quit like he did with Ludwig.
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>>172583104
I have 2 characters that can co-op with you anon, but I'm going to sleep soon.

>>172582895
Honest to god that's the worst part of the game walking feels so floaty, but aside from that I really like everything else, including extra slowness. Atleast people aren't rolling 50 times around and R1 doesn't magically changes angle to back.
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>>172583247

That reminds me of my Exdeath attempt in DkS2.
Well, I tried. With a phantom aura and lots of autism it was believable to myself.
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>>172582567
Midir feels like it was designed by Capcom's Monster Hunter team, because it's way too good to be anything From Software could put out.
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>>172582657

tip top kek
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>>172582475
3 million is the bottom range for PvP. You're beyond summon range for PvE.

Stay under 1M for summoning before drangleic, and 1-2M for summoning after drangleic.

Use Agape Ring and back up your save files if you want to do serious co-op or invasions.
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>>172582234
Oh great, it was all a dream of a dog dying due to lack of oxygen. Classic and totally not rushed trope.
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Hey, actually this anon right. I remember news about 3 DLC.
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>after killing boss solo, always go back and co-op to help other people kill the boss 3-4 times
>old monk boss
>want to help noobs beat it, but feel bad for ganging up on invaders who just want to have fun being a boss fight
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Rank TRC weapons from best to worst.
Include spells too if you're into them
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>>172583132
Nobody has the entirety of the Dark Soul, anon, it's all a matter of who gets the biggest piece
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>>172583458
>too god
wat
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>>172575327
>Bosses like Nameless King, Sister Freide and Gael, now these are bosses that are really hard but in a good way
>these bosses are really hard
I don't have an anime girl smug enough.
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Blessed/simple buff when!
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>>172583354
The cutscene from DaS1. The models match perfectly and the pygmy by that bonfire talks to you about "getting your own" Dark Soul.
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>>172583049
that's literally armored core, unless you mean sci-fi but no guns.
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>>172583354

he wouldn't be very fucking furtive if you could figure out who he was that easily, would he you retard? hurr the character defined by HIDING OUT OF FEAR OF BEING CAUGHT is going to be labeled with a neon sign.
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>try to summon bucketsochicken
>it fails
;_;
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>>172583564
>feeling bad about killing spears
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>>172583375
read rules dumbass
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>>172576689
Half my swings whiff because Midir never stops moving and if you're underneath him so you CAN hit him, he'll breathe beneath himself and it's a 50/50 chance you can escape that AoE in time.
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Why the FUCK every single souls game or dlc needs to have a dragon breathing fire over a bridge? I've seen this so many times.
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>>172580379
Gael's portion is too long, the 1st and last panel can be cut out. Painter loli doesn't need the last 2 panels. You can squeeze more memes like Plume with them gone.
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>that ringed spear in the FC tanking my framerate with the weapon art

Optimize soon pls
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>>172583273
>Don't make me search for the pic of ENB and Miyazaki having a meal together, faggot
and? his secretary probably told him some e-celeb from britanistan was here and it would be cool for promotion to talk to him a little

you think they exchanged phone numbers and chat every night about souls' lore?
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>>172583369
Souls is not bloodborne and you cannot use Bloodborne mechanics to explain how things work in Souls games

>>172583617
Well wouldn't the models match up perfectly with any of the other Pygmy Lords too, since they're all the same? And TRC is chalk full of people telling you to "go get the Dark Soul dawg," and I don't think that any of those guys are the Pygmy either
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>>172583721
this must be your first time to /dsg/
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>>172582657
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>>172575327
I killed him on like my third try. If you think the length of a boss' health bar is the reason you're having difficult with it, you're just plain wrong and need to get better at the game. Stop trading hits and learn the attack patterns. And unless you're on a higher newgame or have like <20 VIG, there's no way he's one-shotting you.
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>>172583564
Don't feel bad, the Spear gets more defense and poise when more phantoms are present, and killing a host with multiple phantoms summoned grants more ornaments.
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>>172583474

you fucking nigger did you just subtly spoil a dog's purpose for me you faggot?

also the memory/dreamscape is still real, memories in dark souls entail some form of time travel. It's less a true dream and more of a wormhole born from the thoughts/dreams of a corpse.
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>>172583564

It's actually more favourable to be fighting against multiple phantoms, you get exponential bonuses to defense and hyperarmor, your guardians are tankier and you get extra rewards for extra phantoms killed.

Most retards who summon don't understand that all of them rushing in and mashing R1 is exactly what you want them to do, because you can and will win a trade versus 3+ players.

This of course assumes your build allows for it, but that just means having decent poise and a nice weapon with a good sweep to it - if it was one Spear with Twin Ultras versus a full gank squad, I would put money on the Spear.
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Does Frayed Blade's WA smash scale with int or faith?

Or does it just deal a flat amount of damage?
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>>172576165
What sl?
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Reminder that DPS has beaten both Midir and Gael

You have LITERALLY no excuse.
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If the whole game was like TRC it's be perfect desu
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>>172575905
Gael's sword. Flashy and useful is how I like my weapons.
Not really into slutwear.
Midir. He was pretty easy, but I loved every second of that fight.
Dreg Heap, I think.
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>Get summoned as Spear
>Infinite HP Host
>Back to sitting outside the church and waiting
At least I'm getting my laundry done.
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>>172583564

some spears are niggers who deserve it. like me

>>172583795

FROM themselves stated that they took direct influence from bloodborne when making DaS3, and it's pretty blatant as it is. plus dream-based time travel is already an established thing within the dark souls universe thanks to the ashen mist heart.
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>>172584041
Some of us are on NG+ and above, fuckboy.
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>>172583795
>Souls is not bloodborne and you cannot use Bloodborne mechanics to explain how things work in Souls games

>he doesn't know that DS1's story is a copy of Armored Core For Answer's story and that most of the mechanics of dark souls came from prior from soft games anyway

it would not surprise me at all if they just threw in some random bloodborne shit into DS3 just because it sounded cool for the lore.

this is a company that re-uses characters and items and bosses from games they made 15 years ago. Why wouldn't they re-used BB ideas in DS3?
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>>172580945
>t's a transition, albeit not as smooth as the one from vanilla DaS3 edition to AoA edition

You probably could've done something with the fact there are two bonfires in Ariandel's room now.
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>>172575137
I beat him on NG+2 sl100. Pure melee. So maybe I have the credentials to say that Midir is a really poorly designed boss fight.

Difficulty is not being unable to see what the boss is doing, rendering telegraphing for attacks useless. When the boss can fit in the camera, the camera clips through most of it.

I've played the absolute shit out of these games since Demon's Souls, done SL1 runs, no hit runs, that weapon swap mod runs. While I would be the first to make fun of somebody for being a shitter in these games, this boss is garbage. At least it's an optional boss so you can skip it outright.
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>>172581140
FUCK the crow of cainhurst. Literally the least fair enemy in BB. Not even hard, just flat out unfair
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>>172583956
>if it was one Spear with Twin Ultras versus a full gank squad, I would put money on the Spear.

As a spear doing exactly this, I have already hit rank 2 with the covenant. The stat boosts are insane and those greatswords only help.
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>>172583913
I guess that makes (some) sense. Still pretty dumb imo.
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>>172583617
Isn't the model just a hollow? he's not in a very detailed shot as well.
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>no midir plushie
>no crystal lizard plushie
>no chaos eater plushie
>no seath plushie
>tfw no souls plushies at all
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>>172584112
Tolo did it NG+7 SL1 no roll,, get god.
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>>172581540
Why do I never ever see these shining lights? I'm playing online, embered, not softbanned.
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So TRC was just a World of Warcraft fetch quest for some painter loli.
We already ended the age of fire by putting the lords back in their thrones prior to any event within TRC.
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>>172581116
give them sliders senpai
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>>172584169
This. There's no defending this boss. It's bad, end of story.
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>>172574483
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>>172583823
try posting shit about games. posting lewd replies is getting old.
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>>172583795
TRC was full of people doing the opposite iirc. They didn't want you to get it otherwise Filianore or whatever her name is would die.

I don't have the transcript of what he said exactly but his wording is different from anything else in the city, as if he were implying that at some point he had a piece of thew Dark Soul himself.
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>AC shitposter out of nowhere
what the fuck?
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>watch invasion streams
>everything seems fun
>start thinking about reinstalling ds3 and start playing again
>remember that 95% of the hosts use seed and camp at the bonfire with 3 allies
yea no thanks
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>>172576614
there are two alcoves on the left one is small and probably not all that intended by From the other is deliberate but if you time it right you should shut be able too run all the way up to his left leg and hide on the side of it were he cant hit you with anything until phase 2...... phase 2 I'll let you figure out that shit.

Hug the left hand side but fucking book it before he first shoots fire have an anti fire shield in case you don't make it and get ready to chug. you shouldn't need ot use the cover jump spots on the mountain side at all.
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>>172584212
I'm afraid you've been prismbanned.
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>invade
>host with his 230958 buddies just camp in some room
>"oh well, i'll just make some food and coffee and come back later"
>come back 30 minutes later
>host and his minions still too afraid to leave bonfire area
why is this shit so hilarious
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> struggling with gael
> switch off greatsword for straight sword and med shield

I feel scummy but I'm mentally prepping myself to cheese dragon
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I love gael but doesn't he kinda look like he'd fit right in some blizzard game? I think its just how stocky he is.
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>>172584292

the pygmy by the bonfire is the only being in the city explicitly NOT sided with the gods, he actually calls you a lying piece of shit if you tell him you side with them. IIRC he also talks shit about the giants.
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I just started playing after a long period of not playing 3.

What is the symbol that appears next to some places in the warp menu? Looks like 3 human effigies from 2
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>>172584378
You can just used the twings to combo them to death now.
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>>172579392
I was literally invading with this exact setup a few hours ago.
People aren't aware of the L2 HA yet, to say the least.
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Dream based time travel is fucking stupid and the dumbest lore idea DaS2 ever came up with. Why even bother fucking around in people's dreams when time is convoluted in the first place, so you don't even need to jump through those extra hoops to start with?
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I just made this dumb video on the ringed city.

You guys can take a look if you're bothered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hZukWvp80E
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>>172576906
Divine spear looks cooler.
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I just beat Midir, and then I went around collecting weapons and stuff I missed.

When I picked up the last thing I had this really hollow feeling, like another game was never coming out and I may not play anything like Souls again.
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>>172584415
Why is sword and board considered bad now?
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>>172584335
New Ringed City weapons help out a ton against multiple enemies in pvp. The vast majority of my invasions are against 2 or 3 people and I win roughly half of them.

>>172584437
Right right, forgot about that part as well.
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>>172584325
>DS3 is done and he says in an interview he's going in to make non-dark souls games, AC6 was confirmed a while ago

it's hype
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>tfw you can now make a legitimate purple clothed, cleavage gifted, edgy katana with dark damage and anime slash move wielding waifu

Based Miyazaki.

What's the best non intruding headpiece? Something that will let me see both the face and the hair?
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>>172584169
If you really did beat him as a pure melee, you would have realize he's a monster hunter boss fight aka learn his moveset well enough to bop his head and move AWAY from him. It's fucking easy if you stop rolling in like a retard and hack away at the shins like every other Dark Souls boss.
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>>172584445
the number of online embered people in those areas. so if you want to do co-op/invade your chances are best there
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>TFW just beat Goji today
>TFW spears are already kill
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>>172575905
Gaels sword

Ringed knight is just the right amount of edgy for me.

gael is fucking phenomenal and the most self indulgenlty silly thing I love him. Music is amazing as well.

The city itself while a bit small had some pretty interesting enemy encounters and exploring it was fun.
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>>172584537
People see shields as a crutch for bad players

started with DS1 when shields didn't bleed so anyone who was decent wouldn't use a shield to avoid getting bled out while blocking

kept going with DS2 adding a dedicated shield break attack.

Then in DS3, rolls are so easy to spam that there's literally no reason to ever use a shield unless you don't have good reaction time
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>>172583849
>1895x1066

Why did you make it smaller?
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>>172584543
I really dont have any motivation to play 1v4 + seed
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>invade from bonfire closest to Midir because fuck this boss, holy shit
>invasion text changes
>being summoned to another world
>huh-whuhhh?
>guess I'm a Spear of The Church now
What's the story here, lads? I thought you needed to equip the covenant item that Midir drops to be a Spear.
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Someone sell me on Gael's Sword and Splitleaf GS. I can't really see what's so great about them and their WA. Seems like something BKS or Stomp would just fuck through.
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>>172584335
Ringed twin swords can oneshot phantoms with 40 vig
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>>172584536

Souls has pretty much established a sub-genre so I wouldn't be shocked if other people take up the mantel.

Let the series have a break.

Even you have to admit that four games in 5 year is over-saturation.

Alternatively wait for the awful outsourced Namco game.
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>>172576786
not relly as someone who objectively tried to "git gud" with them they are more gimmick than actual worth. Sure their lb can do fucking work but if they don't get the kill from it they are stuck stamina less and vulnerable. their reg attacks are lack luster as fuck compared to everything else in the weight category so in a way yes they are just kind of bad.

until you fight a glass cannon pyro with nothing but stam and fp to spam the stance 24/7 then its like dealing with the flaming exploding tornado of death. in that case back up and shoot the twice with an UN-reinforced long bow and that should kill them.
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>>172582574
>tfw spearfag
>tfw dumpstering everyone who's using those things because I can just get a quick poke in and then gtfo before the start of their inevitable and predictable L1 spam catches me
>tfw slowly whitling them down, taking almost no damage myself while they get more and more desperate that their cheap 1-shot combo bullshit isn't working
feels great senpai
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1/3 invades at high wall is not a host with dual twink phantoms feelsgoodman better than yesterday
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>>172584793
what the shit
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>>172584702
>started with DS1 when shields didn't bleed
what? you can get bleed behind a shield
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>>172574701
As long as you keep the stat total you should have for that SL I doubt it would be detected.
Do the changes offline, of course.
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>>172584702
>People see shields as a crutch for bad players
Then those people are idiots.
Shields offer an alternative style of play, and you can't be a comfy knight without a good shield.
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Does the farron ring work with the giant door shield?
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>>172582580
As long as you're careful. Only ever drop swap, never directly add items to yourself. If you need souls, dropswap them too, then pop them. If you need to make progress, turn on godmode and instakill etc etc. then speed through the game until you've gotten where you need to get.
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>>172584798
>Souls has pretty much established a sub-genre

Yeah, it's called third person RPG. Souls just brought it to PC gamers that had never seen it before.
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>>172584702
>>172584537

It makes a lot of enemies and bosses a lot easier

If they don't break your stam, you can afford to be lazy and not roll

when I fought Gael, I still tried to roll as much as possible to save stam, but I had a shield up just in case. Went from always running out of estus in stage 3 to ending with 5...
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Heard they lowered the weight on heavy armors

How easy is it to actually get to wear them without going full retard into VIT?
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>>172575802
Tfw didnt think to screenshot when i killed him
:(
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Somwhen the grasshopper guy tells us about the knight wearing heavy armour going to fight the little girl, and we get the blindfold from him after killing him, was it a reference to Nier Automata?
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DOORS SHIELD NEEDS A BUFF

MAKE THE L2+R1 RUNNING ATTACK GO ON FOREVER UNTIL THE PLAYER RUNS OUT OF STAMINA

THANKS
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>>172584748
In over 5 hours of invasion, I haven't seen a 1v4 with seed. I have seen a 1v2 with seed but that was only once.
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>>172584798
I agree, Dark Souls 3 was the point where I was getting tired of it all. It still affected me though.
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>Doing great against midir
>Get him to 10% with two phantoms helping.
>He does his spaz flailing attack.
>Dodging every single hit.
>He clips me with a claw
>Dead from max HP (50 vit)
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Guys ? What happens if you equip a double great door shield in each hand ?

Quadruple shield ?
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>>172575802
You can have my midir victory video. Shit got pretty intense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B1UKiapcZE
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>>172585054
sword and board quality build is the intended means of playing the game. DeS had the longsword + kite shield, DS1 has the claymore + crest shield, DS2 had the Drangleic Sword and Drangleic Shield.
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what is the noobiest weapon in pvp? I say the axe you get from Dragon slayer armour. It's very slow and beginners think it's powerful
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What's the counterplay to the paired greatswords? Where are the punish frames? I'm not asking sarcastically, I think I'm actually missing something here. I've lost a fuckton of games to that weapon specifically because I have no idea how to punish the weapon art, which also seems to be way bigger than it looks (the second hit in particular). It feels like the armor frames begin well before the animation starts.

The build I'm using right now is kind of a theme build so my weapons are follower javelin and valorheart, I was losing to this with an MLGS build too though until I just decided to play defense and shoot great farron darts at it like an asshole.
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PC FC still at Anor Londo / not pontiff
pass: dsg
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>>172585054
>It makes a lot of enemies and bosses a lot easier
Rolling does that too :)
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>>172585040

I mean specifically the corpse-run, online messaging, vague story package.

It's something alot of people want to emulate.
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What the fuck? I have Darkmoon knights covenant equipped yet I was randomly summoned to be a boss for the spears. What happened?
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>>172575802
Is WebM ok senpai?~
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>>172578340
Jusy "gitgud" fags.
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Undead Match losing streak: twelve in a row. I'm going to fucking kill myself. And to think I was having fun before this.
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>>172584798
>Even you have to admit that four games in 5 year is over-saturation.

this has always been From Soft's biggest flaw. They find a gameplay style that works and then milk it for a decade non-stop. They did it with King's Field, they did it with AC, they did it with souls. At least now they're big enough to survive the transition to a new franchise without going bankrupt
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>>172585225
>drangleic sword
>quality
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>>172575024
I'd move DeS below DS3 but otherwise yeah.
Seriously, it's a great and charming game but it's not that good compared to the other games of the series and most if not all of its ideas have been better performed in later FromSoft games. Being the first Soulsborne to show the ideas doesn't earn it many points.
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>>172585251
quality fromsoft game design

>>172585346
what're you losing to
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>Laser spam
>have to hit the head or you do fuck all damage
>Large HP pool
>one shot jumps

This fucker is defiled amygdala 2.0

Cheesed him with lighting arrow, same way I beat Amygdala with Simon's bowblade.
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>launch dark souls 3
>remember Dark souls 3 doesn't have the saw cleaver
>close the application

sigh
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>>172574483
<3 Partizan
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>>172585432
Everything. But usually just R1s, because I'm the worst fucking player in the world.

Thirteen.
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>>172575024
BB=DaS > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2
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>>172574483
Hopefully this is alright
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With the Ringed City I actually think DS3 is now better than DaS because it has more good areas then bad, the PvP is a lot better with dedicated fun covenants ala DS2, it has better weapons and the bosses shit completely over it
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>>172584959
>Then those people are idiots.
No they're not.

Shields nullify any enemy who rebounds off of them, make backstab fishing much more effective, and obviate any bosses who can't break or get around the guard. Holding down L1 is not nearly as timing dependent or situational as dodging.

To be fair, DaS3 medium and small shields aren't very good. But man could you cheese the shit out of Dark Souls 1 with a leveled up Silver Knight Shield. And if people want to make the game easier, that's perfectly okay. A game isn't a sentence or a punishment, and Souls is way harder now than it was five years ago because of difficulty worshiping fags.
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>>172585523
dark souls pvp is terrible baby shit, but if you're losing to r1 spam try learning parries
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Can you still level up in the church covenant after you've killed the boss? I've been wanting to progress since finally killing Midir but I don't want to lock myself out of whatever the rewards are.
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>>172585251

It's buggy as hell sometimes.

Only earlier another player was summoned to my game, with me unembered - pretty standard stuff except this happened completely involuntarily, seeing as I was at the time standing on the courtyard outside the doors to the boss room where the Ringed Knight is.

So a guy basically invaded me out of nowhere, unembered, outside the boss room, then proceeded to come at me with all the buffs of being a Spear.

It was a surreal experience, and when I asked the guy he didn't know how it happened either.
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>>172574483
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>>172585523
slow your game down a little bit. Take your time, dodge roll, pay attention to your opponent's patterns and don't hit an offensive button until you have an idea of what they're up to. Dark souls is basically a fighting game man it's all about reading your opponent and timing (and not having a weapon that's hard countered by your opponent's weapon)
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>>172585362
>C/A scaling in a game where A dex = C str
>not quality
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>>172574483

How can I do this on PS4.
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They had me. They fucking HAD me.
How did they let this happen?
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>>172585564
I agree but dark souls interconnected world really raises it to a new level even with all its roughness.
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>>172585225
That used to be true, I don't think it is anymore though. They made shields way weaker and they stopped designing enemies that practically forced you to block (like red eye spear knights in Demon's Souls)
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>>172585108
I played ds3 when it came out and 1v4 +seed was the reason I quit.
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>>172583764

No but it wasn't only the dinner, he was also at From HQ to exclusively play Bloodorne before anyone else and he worked on the official guide for 2. So yes Miyazaki was aware of his existence. But for the original point, no I don't think that piece of dialogue in the DLC has anything to do with ENB of course. Maybe the shitty pig shield from the base game but probably not even that.
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>Dancer's Leggings actually has a cameltoe
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So I just did something like 20 invasions in Irrithyl at SL55 and I got something like 14 lone hosts and 2 people that just pulled the plug instantly.
There was only one actual gank.
Did something get changed, or was that just really odd luck?
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>>172575802
got a unintentionally pretty lewd one for you
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>>172585568

frankly as a person who regularly does SL1 runs, I think the shield = crutch meme faggots are huge douchebags who confuse what they find to be the most enjoyable playstyle to be the ONLY enjoyable play style.
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After the blunder that was Ashes of Ariandel I decided for the first time I would pirate the next Souls game or DLC.

O boy was I right to do it. I've never been so disappointed in a game before, what a garbage ending to the franchise to begin with.

The bosses were average and the areas were just plain boring and the same old. I mean, a fucking swamp of everything you could've done? Fucking Patches again, wasn't there enough fan service in the base game already?

I'm glad Souls is over, maybe they can focus on improving and going forward with new ideas.

A big disappointment and I'm glad I pirated and saved €15.
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Fifth try boys.
Still a shit boss.
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>>172585568
Unlocking your camera is more efficient at getting backstabs than holding block ever will be Shield is just an alternate play style. In DaS1 you were better off with heavy armor and poise tanking everything, no need to block in that game.

It amazing me how From doesn't take into account unlocked play when they're balancing mobs. . At least the Bosses in Souls 3 and BB are better at dealing with unlocked play than it's predecessors
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>>172585896
Dancer's leggings give your character +20% raw ass
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What is it called when other players occasionally just hang in one place, in a walking animation but not moving, then teleport a bit? That's lag, right?

>>172585618
>>172585695
I KNOW this, I've been playing since Demon's, and I used to do great in PVP in Dark, but I've appafenty regressed so far I've lost 16 in a row and I am about to tear my hear oujt but I cant'y wquit til I win
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>>172574483
Put me in, senpai.
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>>172585896
Not super surprising since the flavortext says her armor merged with her skin. she is essentially her armor when you fight her
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>>172585250
corpse run
>Everquest (Miyazaki cited this as an influence and something he would like to do more similar games to)

vague story
>Armored Core (did it better, with in-game mail, factions, and briefings, plus item descriptions and bosses)

online messaging
>Again, Everquest

level design, game progression, combat, story
>Ocarina of Time (another game that he cites as influence, and does level design better anyway. Lord souls are literally just pieces of triforce)

Dark Souls was Miyazaki using Armored Core as a platform for making Ocarina of Time, and he took all the gimmicks from Everquest. Nothing in it was new, it was just stuff that mainstream games had been ignoring for a decade and was never put on PC.
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>>172585663

summons work in a very strange manner, exclusively within the ringed city. ifyou place a red summon sign you can randomly get summoned in as a red orb invasion
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>>172585985
chain mail leggings still best for ass.
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>>172574483
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>>172585927
ok.
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>Weapon has a fun moveset and a cool weapon art
>Sucks fucking dick in PvE and PvP

Every time.
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>>172585927
nice reddit spacing
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>>172585805
>Fatrolling under fire
this is why I don't want to PvP as a caster. I actually feel really bad for them
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>>172585904
that dragoo ass!
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>>172584634
The firekeeper but not rlly mask.
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>>172585805

>using exile greatsword in the boss fight

you are scum
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>Jump down ledge and kill fire demon
>This shit
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>>172584634
Shira's Crown. Kill Shira in the Ash Desert and go back to the closed door you talked to her at by the City Streets. Her set will be in there
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>>172586128
What is this weapon anon ?
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>>172585934
Teach me your ways. I've never really tried playing unlocked in Souls or BB and I've no idea where to even begin. Funny thing is I play MH all the time, which has no lock on, so you'd think I'd be fine, but something is different and I just can't adjust.
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>>172586061

I guess the covenant has messed with the restrictions and so all sorts of errors and mistakes crop up.

alternative: time is convoluted.
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>reading the Demon Princes soul
>realize he's essentially the Chosen Undead of the Chaos Demons
Wow, this might be the first time I've ever felt bad for a Demon in these games.
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>>172586209
happened to me too rip
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Who's willing to help me with Midir boss fight on PS4?

Please respond if interested. I'm not gonna fight unless I get at least two people willing to play.
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How come DaS3 doesn't have any fun weapons with fun movesets?

I've been stuck using straight swords and axes since everything is dull and boring. Even the Twin UGS isn't fun. Power Stanced UGS in DaS2 was more enjoyable
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>>172585805
Please send some summons

I haven't gotten any yet
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What's wrong with Dark Souls 3 that its worse than 1?

I only played BB and DaS1
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>>172574483
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>>172585927
DS3/AoA/TRC is the armored core Nexus / Nine Breaker / Last Raven of dark souls

>HEY, REMEMBER THE FIRST GAME? HERE'S AN ENTIRE GAME REFERENCING IT
>Here's our first expansion. Yeah this is just a cash grab. It's not even a real story. Fuck you.
>WAIT we fixed it this time by adding badass weapons and making the game SUPER hard.

they're making the same mistakes with souls that they were making back then
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>>172586270
>at least two people

50 minutes later...
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>>172585904
>paint me like one of your french dragons
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>>172585234

use something with perseverance and rape their face
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>>172586206
What's wrong with using it? It's fun.
Horizontal swings are the best.

Besides, they are casters. We all know casters deserve no mercy.
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>>172586218
You need to play with a claw grip. I swapped to Claw during my BB run when I had to fight Rom, I just never went back to normal control grip since. I went back to the older games (Des/DaS) and it surprised me how easy the games where just by playing unlocked. Backstabs are so much easier to get in DaS3 too because of it
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Make 99 Vigor viable /dsg/
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>>172586458
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Could someone supply me with a pic of midir shooting his death laser up into the air something doesn't need to be too fancy.
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>>172585931
your character looks retarded
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>>172586410
Is there anything I can do with the weapons I'm presently using?

>>172586458
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>>172584639
It's not a difficult fight in and of itself. The difficulty comes from attrition. He takes chip damage from anything you can throw at him, and it becomes a game of keeping up the pressure constantly and not making mistakes because you're tired. When a fight's difficulty is derived from the fact that it's an aggravating, tedious slog, the camera is actively fighting you and god help you if you're old and your hands cramp up easily, it's just a badly designed fucking fight.
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>want to fight midir again
>don't want to go through the main game, demon princes or argo

meh
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>>172586434
It's blatantly overpowered yo, highest damage in the game
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>>172586434
That webm is about half of what's wrong with that boss fight.
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>>172586434
Remove casters REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMOVE CASTERS
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>>172586434

because it's literally forced pvp on people most of which have probably never even done it. going full meta and just death rushing them makes you a nigger
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>>172584639
I've never played Monster Hunter, and I don't feel like looking up a video to see what you mean. I beat him by alternating between head and tail just fine. I think it took ten tries, but aside from the first two times, the camera got me killed and that was it. I watched the moveset from far away the first few tries, and he has amazing attacks. I'm even perfectly fine with the health pool that everyone is bitching about. I'll try keeping the distance and attacking his head only next time, but I'm strictly speaking about the camera. From sucks at big bosses, they always have, and it's because you can't see them properly. If he were the size of, say, Kalameet, this would have been one of my favorite fights in the series. But it's not, it's a fucking chore.
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>>172586601
>hey, it would be a great idea if we removed bonfire ascetics from our next game...
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>Ley's connection
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>>172586037
For me the biggest inspiration for the Souls series are Team ICO games.
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>>172586741
>Ley
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>>172586214

Crow Talons.

I can imagine they wouldn't be that bad normally, but since literally every single person in PvP is using Ringed Knight Paired Hyper Armor On Every Swing Hit You For 90% Of Your HP In A Stunlock Swords, they're kinda shit.
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>>172586458
Claw is actually really good for everything if you play on PS4
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>>172585659
Pls respond
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>>172586692
>can respawn adjudicator argo
>can't respawn midir

fuck this game
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Bleed infusion or Hollow infusion on a Luck build?
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>>172586434
Exile players are like estoc, CCS, and other fotm weapon fags.
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So who the hell was Manus then? Just some random dude?
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>>172586173
That isn't reddit spacing. It's reddit spacing if they space after greentext. >>172586352 is reddit spacing.

Using double line break as a paragraph marker is basic formatting. It looks like shit if you don't.
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>>172586458
this desu.

Put middle finger on R2, index on R1, never take thumbs off control stick and hit buttons with index.

>>172586604
>>172586620
>>172586639
Didn't actually know ti was that bad. I just read from someone here that it's a great strength weapon now when heavied. I needed something that wasn't the machete and decided to try it.
Didn't know it was meta though.

Don't think I'd be doing nearly as good if I wasn't tanking hits and had poise stuff.
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>>172586889
Hollow, if you don't want to focus on bleed like an idiot.
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They should patch the game so every developer message has Gael, it would make him much less of a literally who
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>>172586434
>>172586634
>autisming about casters as though magic except some pyro isn't trash in das3 pvp
christ dude
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>>172586910
He was one of the pygmies, and probably an important one --maybe even one of their early kings.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3EMqibKwVE


Kek
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>>172586898
exile is shit, just like estoc. Very easy to counter
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>>172586817
I feel you, they look cool as fuck but aren't really good
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>>172586998
alternatively he could've been a nobody who ate a shitton of humanity
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>>172586797
>No climbing on monsters
>Bubsy tier platforming
Only real resemblance I see is big monsters with good music. Zelda is the biggest influence for sure imo.
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>>172586639
This guy gets it.
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>>172586797
How? Boss fights are nothing like shadow of the collosus except for maybe DeS (Dragon God, Storm King, etc.) probably because Japan Studio owned Team Ico at the time, but all of those influences were dropped in later games (except for Bed of Chaos).

And the gameplay is completely different. The world exploration in DS is closer to OoT than Ico or SoC.

Don't get me wrong, I love Shadow of the Colossus but I don't see it as any more of an influence compared to Zelda.
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>>172586270
Or you can just git gud and kill him by yourself. Unless you're on a high NG, you have zero excuse.
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>>172586205
Covers my face and leaves me very weak against dark.
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I wanna take my pickle pee and pump a rump!
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>>172587125
That would have made him a somebody

He's also explicitly called a primeval human, and the pygmies are 'early men'
He was, at very least, a pygmy, though likely more than that. Him being the furtive pygmy itself is still the most reasonable assumption just given the storytelling and relation of ideas, especially now that we know the furtive pygmy isn't in the ringed city
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>>172587165
sotc is more of an aesthetic influence than a mechanical influence
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>>172586973
I haven't played in a while, does giving it a hollow infusion take out the bleed effect entirely?
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>try new dlc weapon
>it sucks
>make a save file to try out boss weapons
>they suck
>make new build for different weapons
>they're all trash


Why can't they get the team behind BB's trick weapons to make a good weapon for once?
Why does my Ledo Hammer +5 @ 60STR does as much damage as my Raw Astoras +10 at 10 STR?

Raw ASS does the same damage in 2 hits than Ledo's does in one, while costing less stamina and being faster overall

I thought 2h weapons got buffed, you fags.
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>>172586595

no clue desu

poising through their bullshit WA has been the only thing that has worked for me (and admittedly it works extremely well)
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>>172587335
No, but it's no longer useful for Bleed builds.
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>>172587313
>especially now that we know the furtive pygmy isn't in the ringed city

but anon, you get to talk to him
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>>172587049
t. never played against release estoc

Fotm weapons aren't the best, they're just the faggot choice for the current patch because it shows you're just tryharding and trying to use whatever was overbuffed. Make exile have comparable damage to other CGS and then they'll move on to whatever
>>
With a high damage weapon Midir is a good boss fight. If they nerf his absorption he'll be better than Kalameet in my opinion.
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>>172579602

So I caved and summoned Lapp. I-I'm not a shitter if I already beat it on a lower level character without summoning, right? R-right?
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>>172587475
Cool thanks
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>>172586910
TRC establishes that the city had a connection with Oolacile and was visited by people from it.
Reverse thing happened too, most likely.
He certainly wasn't a random. Probably a pygmy lord who fought dragons in the earlier days of history and died there.
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>>172586959
>needed something other than machete
no such thing
used that beauty through the entire game and DLC
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>>172587436
>Demon's Scar sucks
>RKSS sucks
>Doors suck
>RKUGS suck
>Frayed Blade sucks
>Gael's Greatsword sucks
Have you played this DLC?
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>>172584490
I honestly can't tell if you're an American affecting an exaggerated Irish accent or an Irishman affecting an exaggerated Irish accent.
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>>172586797

Miyazaki mentioned ICO as one of his inspirations.
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>>172586010
When I first saw the Dragonscale armor could be bought after the NK fight, I knew I wanted that exact getup and rocked it all the way through NG+. You are a man of taste, sir.
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>>172587436
because they would be accused of making pay2win content if they were straight up superior to the base game weapons
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>>172587313
The reason I'm not convinced he's the furtive pygmy, although it's not impossible, is that we've seen other mundane humans become extraordinarily powerful (and quite mad) from consuming the dark soul, and one of the major themes of the series is humans (the protagonists in particular) gaining massive power through their own journeying - often hollowing or even embracing their hollowing in the process. Gael, Artorias, Yoel of Londor's "true power", etc. So Manus could just as well be a human who reverted to its primeval state through submersion in humanity.

>>172587454
What are the realistic odds of from patching this? Because whatever the meta was before ringed city dropped, it wasn't this bad.
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FC ended.
Thanks for coming!
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New thread:
>>172587712
>>172587712
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How well would Crucifix work with base stats and high faith, along with dark weapon buff?
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>tfw I did midir solo and didn't get the titanite slab
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Why is Filianore kill? What did i do wrong D:
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>>172587713
I like looking like a big adventured dude whos been to a lot of places.
Rocking the Wilweed boots, havels gaunts and sages blind fold. Looks great. Don;t think I'll ever be changing it.
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>>172587493
I have played with only broadsword/straight sword from the release and Estocs were always easy. Maybe you just cant parry?
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>>172587797
The strength scaling is very good, there's no reason to not take advantage of it.
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>>172587737
about as likely as them making faith worth the investment

so basically 0%
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>>172587642
Yes, I have.
Demon Scar is useless if you're not a pyro build
RKSS is inferior to the wide variety of SS we have in the game already
What use is there for Doors outside memes?
RKUGS is absolute trash.
Frayed and Gaels are no stronger than any other kat/ugs in the game.

Where's the fun movesets? Friede's Scythe is kinda fun, why can't we get more fun shit, Just port the saw cleaver and we'll be golden From.
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How much health should I have for PVP?
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>>172587330
Berserk is where he got most of the design / aesthetic ideas, but the atmosphere in DeS is similar sometimes to SotC.
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>>172587870
>there's no reason to not take advantage of it.
Soul level issues
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>>172587957
At least 34, at most 44.
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Can the pairs ringed great swords be parried?
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>>172587981
a strength build with min faith and dark resin will do more with it than a faith build with dark blade and min strength
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>>172588129
Fuck Miyazaki. The only faith weapon in the game is the Rose of Ariandel.
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>tfw dlc has so many recycled enemies
>tfw dlc has so many recycled assets i may as well go back to lothric castle and have the same amount of fun
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he's don dead now the stairs are actually really op
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>>172587946
I never said that Scar was good for builds other than pyro, I just said it was good. You're more or less saying that the Onyx Blade is garbage.
RKSS is incredibly annoying to deal with if your opponent forces you into making the first move, allowing them to punish you easily because of the range and hyperarmor on the WA
The Doors are literally godly for 1v1s
Frayed has a projectile and R1 combos into the WA
Gael's has arguably the best WA out of any greatsword

And if you don't think that the movesets are fun, I'm sorry to tell you that they're the most fun part about this DLC.
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>>172582143
>all the mental gymnastics to justify a shit (non)ending
reddit is fucking pathetic
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>>172588316
>claymore
>heater shield

baby's first build
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>>172588310
>so many recycled enemies
Lothric Knights in the first area and then?
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>>172588310
>2 recycled enemies
>only in the first area
wew. somebody hasnt played the game yet
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>>172587643

Ahahaha.

I wonder.
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>>172587475
whys that?
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I always feel bad for the hosts who stand behind a shield thinking they are safe, and then they run out of stamina and I get free ripostes
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>fucking double helix staircase where you can only run in a circle

I swear I'm gonna bang my head against this till I find the way forward and it'll be really obvious and I'll feel super dumb
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>>172588665
base bleed build up was nerfed, rouge was also nerfed. they claimed to have buffed bleed infusion but with the base nerf its still lower than what it used to be.
basically bleed builds are dead
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>tfw u just wanna experience the dlc but die to demon prince on his last 20% of health
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>>172588310
>Ringed city DLC
>Fun
>At all
>>
>>172588648
>lothric everything
>fucking penis mushrooms
>thralls
also enough crawling enemies to make your character's neck hurt from how much he has to look down
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>>172588486
It's babies second build :3
My first was Zweihander and Elite Knight <3
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>>172588985
At least I got it done already. Shit ride imo.
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>>172588985
its pretty shit so far
>annoying ass laser beams in the sky so you cant even enjoy the first part of the dlc because you have to run the whole time
>then you get the demon prince who has about a million hp and once hes at his last 20% of health absolutely roid rages

id comment on the rest but demon prince is making me not even wanna play the game, sister friede was easier than this and it was actually fun
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>>172589351
The worst part is the optional boss. Everything about it reeks of Sinh but worse.
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>>172588790
I feel super dumb
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>>172585141
>see his charge coming a mile away
>know for a fact that I can walk out of the way and don't need to roll
>clipped by what can only be described as a shockwave
Bet we won't see shit like that made into a webm and posted ad infinitum a la the Ruin Sentinels' shield

>>172588648
Not that anon, but off the top of my head you have
>Lothric Knights
>Poison bugs
>Thralls
>Dragonslayer Armour
and then if we're getting into fanservice
>Painting Guardian
>Desert Sorceress
>Silver Knight*
>Alva
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>>172588957
>tfw dying to the demon prince just fuels my demonhunting boner even more
>>
Fighting mimics in cramped rooms and spiraling staircases with the BKGA fucking sucks.
>>
Hackers ruin everything, sad people
>>
>>172589808
idk what it is man i havent played since october and its just like fuck i just want to get to the spells and items but its locked behind this boss. I can pretty good til his health gets low then he just stomps me
>>
This mimic has killed me 4 times now.
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>>172590184
git gud baby boy
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>>172589989
Try a smaller, faster weapon.
>>
why does seed exist?
>>
>Keep fighting Midir for the past 4 hours.
>Always get him to 25% HP and run out of Estus where he decides to spam summon homing humanities.
>>
fuck demon prince and his 9 billion million hp

bleed doesnt even work on his second phase like why

why wont any of my summons target one at a time instead of both at the same time

why are the npcs guaranteed to die on second phase

this boss makes me want to level to 150 for no reason but to give myself vigor x 9000, im SL 80 now
>>
>>172586245
>Demon Prince never got a chance to complete his Demon Souls
There is no pottery in the world
>>
>>172590603
Same, those have been my fights with Midir all day so I just stopped. I beat Gael, so I beat the game but fuck Midir's defense and HP pool.
I'll get to it sometime but it's not an immediate concern anymore for me.
>>
This fucking sucks. NG+ is kicking my ass really badly. I'm 120 and I feel so underleveled.
>>
>>172590842
>hurr durr what are Gold Pine Resins

Just beat him solo with my SL 55, kill the darker one first. The second phase becomes 10 times easier.
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>>172590909
Yeah I give up. I was saving Gael until after Midir but now I just don't care anymore, I'm finished with the game. Whatever.
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>>172590842
>fuck demon prince and his 9 billion million hp
You haven't seen HP sponge yet, buddy.
>>
>twin shields
>various twin blades
>haven't run into a single "FUCKIN' INVINCIBLE" build
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>>172591132
Gael is no easy fight either but I beat him but I can't beat Midir. I think it's because I can get hits in on Gael while attacking Midir is hit or miss.
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>>172590910
tell me about it NG+5 only 170 getting my ass fucking blasted.
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>>172591281
midir hp sponge to end all hp sponges.
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WTF I've never seen Gaping Dragon shoot goo before and I never cut off it's tail
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>>172587024
>Ledo Hammer dude trying to parry fucking pyromancy of all things
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>>172591801
>mfw I consider this prospect

I've also just realized all my go-to weapons are unbuffable

good thing I have the executioner's greatsword I used in NG at +10
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> this is the final DLC and probably final Souls content ever

Even if Ringed was GOAT, I'd still be a little sad brehs
>>
>>172591801
>NG+7
>as a DEX build
I've spent 2 days on Gael and I just can't fucking beat him.
>>
>>172592407
I kinda wish there would be more Souls coming in future but then again it get either repetitive or call of duty tier space jumping shit
>>
>>172592408
Pyro-Str-hodge-podge here in a moment of weakness I summoned some fags but I plan to go to NG+6 solo. gael is just so fucking aggressive even if I try and cheese it by running the entire time and whipping black fire balls behind me the fucker just goes ham in phase 2 and 75% of his melee attacks he does can one shot me.

it's what I get fucking up my build.

I still deserve to be shunned
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>Literally 20th try on Midir
>Tried using just about every method suggested
>None of them worked

Why must we suffer
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>mfw phase gael
>mfw the transformation into kos complete with lightning storms and flash red shit stemming from every attack
>mfw the theme kicks in
>mfw that moveset

Can anything top this?
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>>172592938
Hi welcome to Darksouls you must be new here!
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>>172592938
try this:
>dodge
>hit
>dont die
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I so want the Ringed Knight Straight Sword to be good. It's got like 50 less AR than my Sunlight Straight Sword, though.
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>struggling with Demon Princes
>get him down to where I just need to hit him once
>jumps up and completely fucks my camera
>does that swooping ground slash that one shots you before I can unfuck my camera

WHY DO WE LIVE, JUST TO SUFFER?
>>
any fc going on?
>>
>>172593094
Easier said than done.

>>172593045
I beat Des, DS1-3, and BB. Midir is bullshit, too much health and high resistance.
>>
>>172593135
what about the flamey swishy siwshy mode?
>>
>>172593256
I'm literally brain damaged and was able to beat him on NG++ by using pestilent mercury.

Apply yourself.
>>
>all these people wanting to fuck the Painter in the thread
Pedophiles will be exterminated.
>>
>>172593273
It's really, really cool. It's the sole reason I dumped a slab into it. I'm using it just for style right now.
>>
>>172593013
An actual ending
>>
>>172593424
I mean like is it actually viable in terms of juggling people if you have enough fp and stam with flamey swishy swishy? or is it all bark no bite?
>>
I want to let Midir crush my asshole with his huge knobbly dragon cock.
And if that wont work then I want to ride him around the world and let smaller but still hung dragons fuck me while he watches, while I myself also fuck femdragons.
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>>172593669
You can do the weapon art before someone can react and it catches people trying to roll away from you, guaranteed 2-3 hit combo if you hit them while they're close and it does a lot of damage.
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>>172593391
>pestilent mercury.
That's all fine and good but not all of us are spell casters.
>>
>>172593637
but 10 years from now they wouldn't be able to milk it for more $$$$ *cough* diablo 3 *cough*
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>>172593748
>implying you'd get to fuck the femdragons
>implying midir wouldn't fuck the femdragons while you got used as a moist hole by the lesser dragons
>implying midir wouldn't have lots of dragon babies with the femdragons and let the male ones fuck you when they hit needy dragon puberty
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