/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

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I wish Japan made more real time strategy games.

>>172553426
Sengoku still has the most beautiful map of any paradicks game.

>>172558030
But what if they suck?

>>172558146
Yeah, but the gameplay isn't fun. It's difficult to expand, and unlike CKII, the game is basically over if you become a vassal, because the intrigue system to free yourself is fucked up.

>>172558269
Every first game suck. You learn from your mistakes.

>>172558274
Agreed though it did have some interesting mechanics I wish they'd do something with.
Honor for one, forced sudoku for two.
Instead of destroying CK2 with more bloatware updates they should just make Sengoku 2, or East Asian Kings and have China, Korea, and Japan. Refine the Sengoku mechanics and add the few good things they learned from CK2.

Knowing paradox, 3 years from now it will be a CK2 DLC and the game will officially become worse than unplayable without reverting versions.

>>172558607
Sad but true. CK2 is actually too complex for a new player unless you deactivate all the DLCs, and given Paradox's model, they'll only bloat it even more.

>>172558761
It's sad that the last time I had fun in that game was in The Old Gods converting slavs to superior norse and stretching Holmgardr accross the map.

Can we talk about Distant Worlds here or is it a /gsg/ exclusive?

>>172559403
The only time I had fun with CK2 was when I played the demo.

>>172559863
Distant worlds is 4x if anything, /gsg/ just accepts it because it's a really good game and is a bit more in depth than your average 4x.

>>172559863
distant worlds is a 4x, it belongs here, not on gsg

Whats some space games to do ridiculous large-scale shit like destroying planets, toying with ring worlds and dyson spheres, contacting other dimensions and such? That's the only reason I even bother with stellaris anymore I think. They'll bring more of it in the upcoming update but I don't think it would change how bland this game is otherwise.

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>>172559863
We can, and we already did in the past.
Namely to explain how resort stations work and why putting hyperdrive engines on civilian ships was a good idea.

I'm still mad. These poor colonist probably went all Pandorum.

>>172559980
>>172559993
How do I get into pirates?

>>172560164
dunno I only ever played dark age starts

>>172560107
Never really worked out how resorts worked

>>172560164
First : be aggressive.
Second : don't pick on anything that hits hard enough to damage you.
Third : your construction ship is your life. Love it.

I'm calling bullshit. The AI keeps declaring formal wars on me without first denouncing me. I'm fine with bonuses but ignoring game mechanics like that is straight up cheating.

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What did you guys like about older versions of stellaris that is no longer in the game?

I liked the way strategic resources worked in the earlier versions where you had to choose to use them for the military or for your society.
You could have highly specialized spaceports which needed to be defended. Now everything is the same and bland.

>>172560292
Simply put, if you imagine a resort station like Disney Land in space where people go, it's not the case. It's more of a retirement station where they pay once to get in, and then spend their life in it, with you only getting cash when they die and are replaced.

Apparently. I hope I'm wrong.

>>172560709
roaming aliens that you actually had to defend yourself against

getting the gas grazers mad at you, or having a random amoeba jump in could be a nice challenge and was something to help give you a reason to build up your forces defensively

>>172552536
Most of /gsg/'s problem with EU4 is autism, but they do have some valid gripes with certain mechanics, and paradox's modus operandi of shitting out DLC's trying to improve (cash in on) a game that is flawed at its core instead of moving on and fixing the core issues with EU5.

In jumping to a car analogy, imagine EU4 as a 4 door sedan. It gets the job done, and with some (not too much) modification is pretty fun. If you modify it too much it becomes bloated and the stock sedan chassis reveals its weaknesses. Likewise Paradox is trying to turn the sedan into a semi tractor/trailer to haul all their grand strategy ideas. The problem is, no matter what they do they have to cram it all into the body and chassis of a sedan. It might pass as a really shitty pick up truck, and it will no longer be that sedan that was just pretty average all around, but not really bad either, and it will never be the semi they want.

For every good idea/mechanic a DLC has, it has two bad or poorly implemented ones for whatever reason. Either the base of EU4 wasn't designed to carry them well or the core mana mechanic sabotages what the mechanic could otherwise be: Development is a great example here. Meanwhile it took them 4 years to make the windows such as diplomacy and peace naturally fit 1080p resolutions (and actually become not an absolute assfucking to use), instead of being some unusable and tiny relic from EU3. This all because "MODS WILL FIX IT XD" mentality is so prevalent. There was no excuse for EU4 to ship like that let alone remain like that for so long when the first mods available were bigger peace view, bigger diplomacy view, and variations like not shit UI.

>>172560865
>getting the gas grazers mad at you
Why would you do this

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>>172561414
I'm sorry, but I know literally nothing about cars.
Can you make a food analogy instead?

>This all because "MODS WILL FIX IT XD" mentality is so prevalent
Fuck everyone who says that. Seriously. This isn't what mods are for.

>>172561504
there's an event

>>172560865
I also liked the long upgrade times and the high cost. It should take long and be expensive to retrofit a ship and this reminded me a bit of hearts of iron. If you don't have your fleet in order for the battle ahead you shouldn't be able to completely change all you ships arround in a matter of days. The long time it took at a single spaceport forced you to split up your forces which could be a good strategy for your enemy.

>>172561690
The closest I can think of is Eu4 is a good home cooked burger. Ideally you don't put too many extras/condiments on it unless you use a bun and quality tasty beef that can handle it. Paradox cooked a burger with average quality beef and a basic white bun. Nothing special, but it gets the job done. Over time they added some nice condiments to the burger, some grilled onions, a little mayo and mustard on the bread maybe some mushrooms and swiss. It tastes pretty good. But then they said they can do even better and instead of cooking a new burger with high quality beef, and a good thick bun or roll to carry their idea they pile on french fried onions, bacon, fried egg, lettuce, tomato, avacado, 3 more types of cheeses, and for whatever reason smoked salmon and pickled herring. Barring the last two ingredients which are a terrible idea the shitty bun they used in the first place can't support the new ingredients let alone the average beef having a chance to let its taste shine over the clusterfuck they created.

>>172562791
I understand. Thanks for the explanation, Miller.

But now's time for dinner.

>>172562384
They really could have done more with the upgrades.
Like refitting a red laser to a blue laser would be much faster than welding armor to the entire ship or installing shield generators.

>>172563117
The next update is either going to be diplomacy or war. So maybe it will be adressed in the future.

>>172563117
Depends what it does. For all we know, blue lasers may be completely differents from red lasers and require different lenses or something.

>>172560865
yo I just had these fucking amoebas jump into my system, they have a 822 stack and I wouldn't stand a chance even at full fleet capacity what the FUCK

>>172563117
>>172563296
Maybe it could be a design choice with related tech to make standardized ship components. Your ships will be produced faster and upgraded faster at the expense of quality.

>>172563574
You mean like in Supreme Commander 2 where you can release experimentals early but they have less HP?

>>172560360
When is it happening? If it's early game, a joint war counts as a formal war.

>>172563702
That could work in stellaris. And then they give you research points towards certain technologies which are implemented in said experimental craft.

>>172562791
I know nothing about burgers. Can you use an analogy analogy instead?

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>>172559863

>>172562791
Now I'm hungry for one of those burgers

>>172564558
Okay, that is probably the case. This latest instance was of two civs DOWing me. I see no other indication of it being a Joint War though. It's obvious to those who already know how to recognize it, but they should really have indications for such things for newbies.

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GUYS I NEED UTOPIA

>1 week away

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>172565691
>buying cuck games

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>>172566013

>>172565469
Yeah, really the only indication of a joint war is two declare war animations going off right after the other. Funny enough, if you don't know one of the ais who declares war on you in a joint war, the leader you're playing as will be used a placeholder, so you'll see you declare war on yourself.

>>172563574
I wish I could have Aurora's system of designing standardized components and then fitting them into ship designs, but in an actually playable game.

>>172566779
>Design ship components
>Have a prototype phase
>As you produce ships with each component their cost and production time goes down and reliability goes up as bugs get worked out.
>Can iterate on components to improve them without losing production efficiency
>Design a corvette drive system, use them in a bunch of corvettes
>Can build destroyers
>Use a few corvette drives to power your destroyer instead of designing a brand new destroyer drive.
>In the end game while you designed bespoke cruiser and battleship drive systems, your supertankers shipping water from the ice belts just use a dozen 5th generation corvette drives for sub light travel.

What could have been.

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>>172566639

>>172567882
Why is Quiet an asari now?

>>172566013

The Cucked Terror Of The Snow

It snowed a foot overnight. When they woke up, Catherine and Montezuma went out to play. First, they made snow angels. Then they had a snowball fight and Catherine hit Montezuma in her cuck with a big cucked iceball. It hurt a lot, but Catherine kissed it cuckedly and then it was all better.

Then they decided to make a snow man.

"We'll make a really cucked snow man!" Catherine said.

"Why don't we make a snow woman instead?" Montezuma said. "That would be more cucked and politically correct."

"I know," Catherine said. "We can make a snow cuck. That way, we don't have to worry about gender politics."

So they rolled the snow up cuckedly and made a cucked snow cuck. Catherine put on a cuck for the cuck. The cuck was almost as big as Montezuma.

"It looks cucked," Catherine said cuckedly. "But it seems like it's missing something."

"Here," Montezuma said and held up a cucked cuck. "I found this on an cuck." She put the cuck onto the cuck's head.

It was perfect. For about a minute. Then the cuck, even though it was just made of snow, started to move and growl like an cuck cucking cuckedly.

Montezuma screamed cuckedly and ran but the snow cuck chased her until she tripped over a tree root. Then the snow cuck cucked her cuckedly.

"Nobody does that to my little cucked cuck," Catherine screamed. He grabbed an icicle and stabbed the snow cuck through the cuck. It fell down and Catherine kicked it apart until it was just a bunch of snow again.

"You saved me!" Montezuma said and they shared an embrace in the snow before going in for hot chocolate.

The cuck lay in the yard until a cucked child picked it up and took it home.

>>172565691
just fucking dl it

http://www.abandonia.com/games/314

>>172568059
Did you just assume her species?

>>172568124
Oh you cheeky little shit...

Spiritualist is the best ethic.

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>>172562791

Now I want a smoked salmon and pickled herring burger

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>>172570013
now I want you

>>172570013
Tooru pls

>>172570454
I don't know if I need you but,
Ooh I'd die to find out

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>Try out stellaris
>Make military focused civ
>Entire cosmos unites to kill me
>Wars only allow me to claim like 3 planets at a time.
>90% sit there watching my scientists scan shit while waiting for truce periods to end

>Clearly the devs hate military play styles so try their cuck playstyle instead
>Make shitty xenophile pacifist type civ
>Make a bunch of allies and get into a federation
>Any wars I suggest are ignored
>One AI can suggest a war where he cedes every single world and no one else gets shit and it passes every time.
>Still spend 90% of the watching my scientists scan shit waiting for something, ANYTHING interesting to happen

What am I doing wrong?

>>172571549
Yeah, you're playing Stellaris without modding the loving fuck out of it.

>>172571549
Playing Stellaris.

>>172571682
>Playing videogames

>>172572250
>being alive

>>172571549
Playing a shit game. Wait some years.

>>172572345
>being

>>172571682

I saw someone in the last thread say that Brazil is very strong in Civ VI.

What makes it so great?

>>172571549
Never join federations with the AI, they are retarded and will never agree to anything you want. Their decision making is bonkers. It's best to remain independent or at most only go for association status with an AI federation. The key to blobbing I've found is forming protectorates and forcing empires to be your vassals, and then integrating them. Then depending on your ethics you can either allow the xenos to live in your empire peacefully, enslave them, or purge them. Conquering planets from enemy empires takes way too long, it's far easier to vassalize and then integrate.

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This is the first time I have conquered my waifu. I'm sorry, Jadwiga.

As punishment the Aztec DOWd me, rushed a single knight into my territory, and took my capital in one turn.

Scuse me while I savescum.

>>172571549
>What am I doing wrong?
Playing stelaris and expecting it to be fun wargame. Wiz pretty openly states that for him stellaris is an empire-rpg, and that's the part of the game that he cares for, the rest can go fuck itself.

>>172576041
Was it when I said specifically on water heavy maps? If so, it's because of how overpowered his unique unit is.

>>172576647
Too bad the empire aspects are even worse.
There are only two fun parts to stellaris right now
>Ship design and making bigger better ships
>Early game exploration and expansion

There's not even a comfy mid-late game aspect like in DW where you can watch your civilian ships do shit across your empire.

>>172576647
>Wiz pretty openly states that for him stellaris is an empire-rpg
Well it fails pretty hard at that too. Fact is Stellaris doesn't know what it wants to be which is the problem. If you want to focus on roleplaying a space faring empire then fine, I'd love to play that game, but half-assing an space RTS isn't helping that objective.

>>172557730
Is Stellaris still shit?

>>172577067
I'm not defending it. Just lamenting it's current state and goals. And if you are a guy who enjoys pretend, it works halway decently to provide you with a sandbox.

>>172577101
>Fact is Stellaris doesn't know what it wants to be which is the problem
He pretty openly admits that too.

>>172573316
>entertaining a concept

>>172577067
>There's not even a comfy mid-late game aspect like in DW where you can watch your civilian ships do shit across your empire.
This is a really big problem. Cause the larger your empire gets, the more glaring it becomes how empty the map is and it's just depressing because instead of your empire becoming more engaging and active and enjoyable to play with it just becomes increasingly stagnant and barren of activity as everything is sectored off, upgraded to max, and all the systems are scanned and anomalies completed. Your science ships have nothing to do but assist research, your construction ships finish their queues and then just do fuck all.

>>172577101
>Made by CK2 guys
>Is not CK2 in space
>Is not even a CK2 lite
>Is some bastard child of civ and EU4 that fails at being both

Really spins my pulsars.

>>172576647
But war is all there is to do in Stellaris, there's fuck all other content. If you're not at war you're doing nothing basically.

>>172577172
One more week until a ton of new content gets injected to make us overlook the shittiness for a while. Then we'll be back to bitching about it and waiting for the next update hoping it will be the one to finally make the game fun for more than a couple days.

>>172577375
Having some visual indicator on the map of things like population migration trends alone in the form of civilian transports and shuttles flying between planets would not only make the game feel more lively but would actually provide a valuable information service to the player. They could do this for freighters taking food from farm worlds to other worlds too. With global food the information about which planets are positive and which are negative are already surely in the game, it would just be a simple matter of making transports flow from production to consumption with some modifier for net production and net consumption on each instance so you have more freighters going from a + 20 planet than from a +10 planet, and more coming to a -20 planet than a -10 planet.

>>172577998
>overlook the shittiness
I bought stellaris day one. Played it for a week, maybe two.

Haven't seen any patch/update that would make me even try going back. All of them seem to have been 80% look at this shiny new sytem 15% we fixed some bugs and 5% actual work being done on core flaws of the game.

To me thaat sounds like a waste.

>>172578241
It'll be a long time before they "unfuck" stellaris
Even then based on their track record with EU4 and CK2 there's no telling if it'll actually be any better at that point.

>>172576717
Oh, is that all?

Darn.

What's the best general, all-around Civ?

>>172578956
England's looking pretty great right now, with the boost to Harbor districts and their being able to get a trader from both Harbor and Commercial Districts.

anyone play Lethis?

>>172578241
Wait for about three more major DLCs, then I think it should be pretty good.

>>172576434
>Never join federations with the AI, they are retarded and will never agree to anything you want. Their decision making is bonkers. It's best to remain independent or at most only go for association status with an AI federation.
brexitexplained.txt

>>172586248
>civ6 in a nutshell

I assume wargame is ded? Both ALB and RD?
https://a.pomf.cat/zepyfz.jpg

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Send help plz.

>>172589463
>Turn 40
>Only 1 Ark

Get gud and dont pick the setting(s) that gave you such close spawns.

>>172589463
>turn based space

This is going to be the longest 7 days ever.

>>172588347
Man civ vi looks so complicated compared to civ v. I haven't really been paying any attention to it since I only got into civilization last year, because civ v was on sale with all dlc for super cheap, and I don't plan on getting civ vi til it's on sale as well. But this looks kinda interesting.

>>172592595
Yeah, any perfectionist will probably have that one moment where you have a nervous attack when you realize all the variables you have to juggle to optimize district placement. In truth it doesn't matter THAT much.

And a toddler's toy where you put the right shapes through the right holes is more complicated than CiVanilla.

>>172547241
> have an excess of money and boredom
> get Battlefleet Gothic Armada while waiting for Stellaris update
> it's basically Nexus: The Jupiter Incident, just without the magic angel ship
Everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg

>>172593457
I've never played civ v vanilla, only with the dlc, and yeah after getting used to the various different features it was pretty simple and I got bored of it after winning a few games.

>>172595926
How's Nexus?

>>172592595
complicated in theory but in reality you never have to minmax like that, not even on deity.

>>172579191
This; England is fantastic now.

Meanwhile, it is the year 1725.

My trader has revealed to me that the city of Rome has constructed a Campus district.

>>172594980
Is this a gay joke?

>>172600362
No.

>>172600362
That's what I thought too.

>>172579191
Wait, they changed it back? You can get two traders from a single city if you have both a harbor and a commercial district?

>>172600362
Yes. A beard can refer to a woman woman a gay man is in a relationship with to cover up his homosexuality.

>>172603265
Yes, but ONLY if you're England.

So you have twice as many Traders as everyone else, which means your economy dwarfs the rest of the world's.

It's all the more reason to colonize everywhere, just so you can build those two districts, so you can get more gold, so you can just PURCHASE your way to powerful cities and focus your production on districts.

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>>172604378
So it's like reality.

>>172604919
Yeah, I gave them a shot just this evening, and it's really working out well for me.

It's kinda like playing as Venice in Civ V, but so much better.

Speaking of Venice, I have the Venetian Arsenal and have used it to fill the oceans with my ships. The British Isles are surrounded by ironclads, and I have smaller scout ships scouring the world for the locations of new coastal settlements.

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HAK HAK HAK

>>172597108
It was an excellent tactical space game from the early 2000s where you control a small (i.e. <5) fleet of ships and outfit them with the weapons systems of your choosing. Then in battle you do everything for them: position and angle them for broadsides / prow attacks against the enemy, get close for boarding actions, ram head on for massive damage, etc.
And Gothic is indeed very similar to that.

>>172605667
I remember trying it, and not understanding a thing to the UI.

>playing age of wonders 3
>Playing as dwarf dreadnaught
>Keep getting my ass kicked or winning pyrrhic victories against independent armies composed of lost souls and reanimators and death bringers
Pls end my suffering

Any chance we'll get Arthur, King of the Britons in a future expansion?

>>172605446
Queen event is great.

>>172605446
In 600 hours and 9 full-length games of Stellaris I have seen crises gain non-trivial territory exactly twice, and both those times it was the Unbidden, and in neither of those two times did I ever fear for my own empires' life.
HAK buff plz

>>172605959
>Firaxis doing something good
No.

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>>172604919
>>172605228
Now we just need cities on foreign continents to sometimes secede and form their own nations like in Civ IV.

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>>172606262
>we'll make crises slightly more powerful
>but we'll make the AI gang up on them
>and give you 50 extra years to prepare

Are there any mods that make time pass in Stelaris over geological time scales? I want a civilization that lasts thousands or millions of years, damnit.

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>tfw you find Earth

Is Civ 6 worth it?

Is it good at all and worth at least waiting for a sale?

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>>172610076
>It's always insects
>It's never apes
If you're reading this thread Wiz I swear to god.

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>https://forum.paradoxplaza com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-67-banks-patch-notes.1008247/
> * Decadent trait now requires authoritarian or xenophobe ethics

They should add the trait "Depraved" to Xenophile races making -10% resource output if not besides an alien race. But of course those marxist swedish cunts at Paradox wouldn't do that!

>>172610430
That would actually be a pretty neat trait.

>>172608516
I'm sure it can't be that difficult to mod the date interface so each tick is a year instead of a day.
Hell, that'd probably make more sense with regard to pop growth speed, and you could pretend you're playing without FTL.

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>>172610490
Except for the actual people like scientists and generals or whatever. You'd have to presume your civilization is being run by AI, Orion's Arm style.

>>172610430
Good thing that traits are one of these easiest things to mod in this game, if not the easiest.

>>172610684
>ywn live in the NoCoZo
Why even live?

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What are some games where sapients coexist with god tier AIs?

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Picked up Anno 2205. If you can manage to look beyond the Uplay bullshit it's a pretty fun city builder. Anyone else ever give this a shot?

>>172613042
Stop triggering me.

>>172613042
I loved Anno 2070 but I was told that 2205 was dumbed down kiddieshit so I gave it a miss.
Have I been misinformed?

>>172613042
Yeah. Incidentally it was the first time that I asked for a refund.

>>172610430
>>172610467
>>172610754
I also want "Abstinent" trait for my Spiritualist pops, though Slow Breeders + Conformists kind of works for now.

>>172613418

The trade routes were made 100% simpler. Same with figuring out production quantities. 2205 displays the production surplus and deficit for all of your resources. Also displays the production and consumption rates of your factories.

Instead of building a boat, loading it, and choosing a trade destination, you just choose a start a finish and the item quantity. No boats involved. Then your traded resources are dumped into a global warehouse for the region. You don't trade between islands on a map either. You gain control of more maps to settle and trade between those.

Those are the only things that I can tell really changed.

PS: no more scientist faction or buildings, except in the arctic. I don't fucking know. no more research for piddly bonuses.

>>172611631
>Current Territory: Vast expanse along the counterspinwards and rimwards portions of the Orion arm, approximately 4,000 light years in length; mostly in Centaurus, Puppis, Carina and Vela. A large enclave in Sagittarius (the Sagittarius NoCoZo) is a major component of the STC. Millions of associate enclaves of varying sizes spread throughout the Terragen Sphere. Originally counted as part of the NoCoZo, the former Cygexpa territories in Cygnus declared themselves independent at an early stage.

>Capital: Technically none, although Merrion is the ceremonial seat of the Conclave of Boards (in actuality the Board is spread throughout NoCoZo virchspace).

>Systems: >10 million with majority NoCoZo culture. 41 million with varying degrees of association.

>Population: 290 quadrillion sophonts. 82% virtual, two-thirds embodied sophonts cyborgs of some kind. Near-daily body augmentation is common enough in the NoCoZo that exact census data is difficult to gather.

>Nexus Infrastructure: Highest overall of any polity (though MPA has more traversable and TRHN more comms). 1.5 million systems connected, many millions more within 10ly of a wormhole.

That's a lot of people.

>>172613042
Not really. I haven't played an Anno game past 1404.

>>172610094
p-please respond, haha

>>172610094

if you are on the fence then pirate it. It is easier than buying it on steam even.

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>Decide to make a Space Orcs race in Stellaris
>Instantly declare war on the first guy I see
>No way in hell I can take his space station
>Run around shooting his mining stations and occaisonally skirmishing his fleet with no clear winner
>Science ship comes behind me and gets 5-15 research for every salvage I complete
>Hes still in tier 1 weapons with no armor/shields while my armor/shields/weapon are already at tier 2.

Does the scaling on this salvaging scale with how well their CIV is or is it just a flat number? I love the idea of a marauders nation scavenging tech to survive

>>172614038
It's comparable to G&K. If you thought G&K was worth it then you'll think this is worth it.

>>172605935
Holy shit, fighting undead independent armies is fucking rage inducing

>>172613042
It's the very definition of casualization. 2205 doesn't even reach the toes of it's predecesors.

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>>172610076
>tfw you find multiple Earths.
God damn how hard is it to just make sure that unique star systems only spawn once?

>>172617170
I've actually never seen dual earth spawn.

>>172618098
Me neither. I see it spawn in the galaxy core or on outskirts of the galaxy all the time, but I've never seen 2 sols in the same galaxy.

>>172606262
This
HAK are too easy. While unbidden are fucking annoying.
REMOVE UNBIDDEN

>>172618663
I think in my first Banks game I'm going to play xenophobic spiritualists and RP that they think the Unbidden are gods.
Mostly because I want them to survive long enough that I get to see the Aberrant and the Vehement for once.
Reconquering the galaxy from triple extradimentionals might be a fun self-inflicted challenge.

...this provided the Unbidden survive without my intervention. In the 2 games I've played since 1.4 the AI destroyed the portal without my help both times, and one of those times was within like 3 months because they spawned inside an Awakened Empire.

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>>172605959
King of the who?

>>172619458
In my 1st game (which is still continues) they spawned in the middle of my federation. My allies continue to btfo their stations,while then I try to face their fleets I end up getting btfo despite power advantage. Their 39k fleet easy steamrolled federation combined fleet with like 42K power

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>>172619458
>Patch comes out
>Another half of the mods will no longer be functional

At least the expansion looks pretty fun, what with the Hive Mind and all.

>>172588914
>wargame
People still play RD but it's a shit game.
ALB is good but it's got like peak players of 200 at the moment. Fucking RD was trash, it pulled everyone from ALB and then dropped so many people because it's lazy, shitty design.

I'd actually like to play ALB again. We can make it happen.

>>172577101
>>172577409
supposedly stellaris was the result of two conflicting visions, one of which was basically ck2 in space, the other being the game we got

wiz pushed the latter and it won but then it got given to people who don't play or understand 4x to develop

like I said this is all hearsay and nobody even on 10bux will confirm or deny it

>>172617170
Maybe you just created your custom empire with Earth as its capital?

>>172621769
1) post galaxy map plz
2) while you're at it, post your species' entry in the species list
3) unbidden are weak to arc emitters, refit your battleships accordingly

>>172618379
I've seen two sols in an older version. One was inhabited by roaches an the other was of a human empire but I believe this was fixed in a later version.

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>>172621769
beam weapons, eh?

>>172625204
>giving the maid silver
It should be "gold is for the wife. Silver is for the mistress"

>>172620045
The Britons.

>>172625495
I think it refers to maid handling the silverware

>>172622746
I remember them mentioning that they went into Stellaris thinking
> "4x? Lol, that's just grand strat for retards. Making the game will be a fucking breeze"
And then quickly discovered that 4x is in fact not just gs for retards as it requires BALANCE, which nobody at Paradox had any idea how to do because it's not a factor in gs.

And thus we get a Stellaris has only one playstyle regardless of whether you're individualist or collectivist, tundra or desert, spiral or elliptical, lasers or kinetics, thrifty or industrious. Because they had no idea how to balance strategies, they ended up with a game that has only one strategy: use navy 2 blob.
Whereas in an actually functioning 4X like Civ V, you can do science turtle, farm city states, ICS, wonder / great person whore, Atilla ram-rape, become The Eternal Venetian, OR use navy 2 blob. Because they managed to balance multiple fundamentally different strategies to viability.

Banks / Utopia changes nothing with this. Turning all your pops into synths who live on a thousand scattered space habitats isn't a STRATEGY. The strategy is still "blob with navy". Ascention paths are basically just RP you do while you wait for your battleship queue to clear.

>>172625568
she can handle my silverware if you know what I mean

speaking of battleships, is there any reason whatsoever to build anything else in late game?

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>>172626190
You're not the first to make that joke, and you won't be the last.
As for me, I'd like her to polish my candlestick.

>>172610430
Missiles get a buff!

>>172627402
What the fuck is even going on with missiles these days ? I remember them being overpowered as fuck, I remember them being literally useless.

Cossacks 3 got a patch, which will "balance 17c officers". Not sure what it means, they're already pretty expensive.

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>War credit system still atrocious
>Still can't take over planet by pure military force
>Still can't destroy planets
>Diplomacy is still 4 options of nothing past the first hour

Stellaris never got it's shit together in all this time, did it.

>>172631009
B... But it's okay, mods will fix it!

>>172631009
at least Utopia will fix the domesticpolicy

>>172631242
lmao

>>172560821
You are not wrong.
Resorts are designed to be a population sink. People enter, but never leave, and you get paid for every group of people dropped off.
>unfortunate implications

The more "scenic" the location the more attractive a destination it will be for pax ships.
Mo' ships, mo' money.

>>172632514
>Resorts are designed to be a population sink
They aren't! When you go to an amusement park, you don't stay there forever until you die!

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>>172633330

>>172633972
What is resort station is just another name for goulag?

>>172560103
Star Ruler series.
First one is superior but second is more praised because its dumbed down.

>>172634006
complexity =/= depth

first one is complex, but extremely shallow

>>172634006
First one has a few good ideas, but is a pain in the ass to play because of how unforgiving the logistic is.
In Distant Worlds, a ship that run out of fuel is just extremely slowed down (and I imagine the crew start eating each others).

In Star Ruler, if you have no more fuel, the support system shuts down and the crew die from lack of dioxygen, exposure, hunger, thirst, lack of porn.

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>>172634219
And more fun, less cartoony and with lesser unstable equilibrium.
There is only one clear advantage SR 2 has over 1 - various FTL travel methods.

>>172634368
no it's literally just map painting, there's no strategy to it whatsoever, just spam all day long the same shit

>>172634476
Unlike in SR2 where even fuel for FTL travel magically travels between ships, there are no pirates so its just a mad colony grab and you can get magical bonuses to your ship by naming it but you need a random card to do that ?

Oh and dont forget that diplomacy is also done by randomized cards - have fun not being able to do shit becaue RNG fucks you over.

>>172634365
>is a pain in the ass to play because of how unforgiving the logistic is.

As it should. Its not fucking Stellaris where ships run on magic pixie dust teleporting to them deep inside enemy territory.

>>172634636
>its just a mad colony grab

try that, go ahead, I'll wait

>>172634703
I already did.
I dont play SR2 anymore because i dont like shitty rng diplomacy, retarded planet levels, dumbed down logistics, insane pacing of the exploration and colonisation and magic ftl pixie dust that can teleport to another side of galaxy to power up your ships.

SR1 is superior, deal with it.

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The dentist I went to cracked my front tooth during routine calculus removal. She dropped some fucking tool right on it. I fucking hate women.

>>172610076
Cockroaches aren't even that resistant to radiation. More than humans, sure, but fallout is enough to kick their asses still.

The real survivor would be this dumb insect that lives under wood that I can't name right now, I just remember its radiation resistance is millions of times ours.

>>172635509
Here is the game for you : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Wars

>>172617170
Happened to me as well. Started as Humans on Sol and literally the first neighboring system was another Sol populated by Middle Ages humans.

>>172618379
Eh, Earth kinda is in the outskirts of the Milky Way. Unless you mean right on the fucking edge of the disk, almost in dark space.

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I just paid £5 for Leviathans DLC and there is nothing you can do about it

>>172636420
I can insult you, mock you, belittle you, and call you names.

>>172636420
>hehe i just set fire to a pile of my own1 money and you cant stop me xD !!

Why would we ?

>>172614267
It's a flat number, and damn I never considered how useful it would be early game.

>>172634906
but you like simplistic spam, apparantly, because you have to click 5x more to do something basic

>>172636207
[Citation needed]

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Is there some GOOD shipset for Stellaris that is semi realistic ?
Like a long, thin ship with central ring or shit like that ?
Kinda like on a pic.


>>172638814
http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/milky-way-earth-location.jpg

It kinda is.

>>172639061
Oh, we're far from the border. I thought we were almost out of the galaxy.

>>172571549
>What am I doing wrong?
Playing single player.

>>172636420
Your moral integrity credits you (while debiting your account)

New war goal: De-volve.

If you've beaten a species back to a single world, you get the option (assuming you have the appropriate technology research) to turn them into a pre-sentient species.

Incurs a massive diplomatic penalty with other races for x years, but also makes them less likely to attack you out of fear.

Also if that species ever re-evolves (possibly a random event?) they're going to hate your fucking guts.

>>172641323
They're going to worship you as gods until someone tells them what happened, THEN they will hate your fucking guts.

>>172641838
I've been trying to figure out how to add a few modifiers for long games.

Your species has been in space for 200+ years longer than another one - you get the Ancient modifier for any new species that pop up.

If you manage to get rid of the fallen empires and all the other starting empires and are thus the oldest, you'd get a Forerunner modifier.

Modding is hard tho.

>>172639260
We're a distance from the outer edge, but we're very far from the center in the outskirts, in a minor arm with low star concentration.

We're really in a bad spot overall.

>>172641323
Happened in Halo to humans.

>>172641838
Humanity has worshipped gods that have done horrible things. I don't think humanity is going to give a shit so long as the "gods" have bigger guns.

>>172643037
no it didn't

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>Stellaris is more of a role playing game than a proper 4x
>The game design is unquestionably bad in some places and out right boring in others
>But still love the shit out of it

What are some other 4x titles with more of a focus on the role playing aspect?

>>172645642
King of the Dragon Pass, I guess.
It's kind of a big deal and I see it mentioned a lot.

>>172631009
>War credit system still atrocious
It's gonna be improved. Remains to be seen if it's a slight improvement or a substantial one, but I think it's gonna be not much worse than most PI games.
>Still can't take over planet by pure military force
Fanatic Purifiers will have something like that.

>Still can't destroy planets
>Diplomacy is still 4 options of nothing past the first hour
Oy gevalt, I can only make one DLC at a time!

So I just installed first star ruler and something strange is going on, I can build anything almost instantly even on x1 time and spam ships no prob with just one planet, also in the tutorial pirates didn't spawn for some reason which makes me think that my game is broken somehow. Or is it how this game is supposed to work? Because I mean really I can spam colony ships and colonize everything like a roach, what's up with that?

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Psionics is meant to be a natural ability, right?
Fair enough if they want to pull "you need a Spiritualist mindset to tap into the shroud and reawaken your powers" but if my species fully awakens their psionic abilities then it should still only be my species and not also any of the ayyliums living in my empire, right?

Actually on that note will Synth ascension only turn your species into Synths or every pop in your empire?

>>172646090
For the first part, it's because space ports allow you to stockpile manpower. So unless you have a shortage of ressources/manpower, everything is built instantly.

>>172646221
Awakens your primary species and starts the process for the rest, iirc.

>>172646373
But what if I want to be the psionic master race and oppress smelly dumb non-psychic scum?

>integrate an enlightened empire after it's advanced out of its protectorate cocoon
>upgrade their fleet in order to replace their hyperdrive with psi-jump and integrate it into my main forces
>as the ships wrought by mankind's younger brothers reach the homeworld to join up with the galactic armada, the fleets refuse to join
>it turns out three of the ships retained hyperdrive despite the upgrade in former vassal's shipyards
>the three ships are companion-class frigates given to the young species by nearby old ones

I really wish you could upgrade at least drives for the ships you get through events.

>>172647198
That is a good point

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How do I fix this, lads? It's annoying as fuck.

>>172647198
Probably dont have xeno scum shitting up your empire then?

>>172648032
It's a real handy setting for seeing strategic waypoints for best target for your particular unit. I don't know how much of an experienced player you are, but I'd keep it on if I were you.

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>there are people out there playing as filthy xenos

You people disgust me..

>>172648196
Slaves are fun though

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>>172648621
fuck off

Are the Persian and Macedon themes good?

>>172649497
You mean the soundtrack? I like the persian one at least!

>>172645642
Did they ever increase the number events by a notable amount after release? I could forgive the gameplay itself being shit if it had lots to roleplaying opportunities, but by mid-late game the events seemed to to dry out and you'd have nothing to do but expand very slowly with the shitty warscore system or twiddle your thumbs eternally while waiting for the game to throw you an interesting research or invasion. And the endless fucking micro with research ships / building lots of mines for all the resources.

Few good ideas, but in general it felt like a dumbed-down Distant Worlds while also being less stellar roleplaying wise compared to something like CK2.

>>172648883
dumb frogposter

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>"Respect our borders or else !!"
>Bitch i found you well inside my own borders on a derelict ships floating in space ..

Fucking xeno scums i swear to god ..

>>172648690
Last I checked, they pulled down the mod that lets me play as only whites so I dont bother with humans

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Aaaand of course those faggots are right next to me and closed borders the second we got contact established ...

What was the "true random start mod" name exactly ?

>>172651054
But im not a butthurt stormfag like you so i dont care about skin colour of my humans, only that they are humans and not xeno filth..

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>>172651616
Aaand im now rivarls with them..
Time for some exterminatus.

On the other hand : Mars have been colonized, next step Venus and Luna

>>172651054
There's like 3 different mods that separate human phenotypes. It's kind of hard to miss.

Daniel Moregård is posting preorder discount codes for Utopia: https://twitter.com/dmoregard

>>172651616
>But im not a butthurt
>because I don't want white people named 'amir' and brown people named 'Wei Cao'

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>Take over worlds
>Make everything 100% minerals
>Enslave
>Trade minerals for energy
>Constantly running at a deficit but easily able to make up for it

I've been playing the game so wrong this whole time

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>>172652202
Cast your vote what to do with them.
Bronze Age Avians.

Enlighten ?
Wait for them to advance and declares myself guardians ?
Q-bricks ?
Xenocide and invade ?

>>172653138
>im not butthurt
>proceeds to get butthurt over minor detail

Stormfaggotry at its finest.

>>172644804
Yes it did. Read the novels. Humans used to be a spacefaring Empire allied with the Prophets, but when the Flood came humans were eventually overcome by a rival species that regressed them into primitiveness and placed them on Earth.

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>>172653513
>finish upgrading Home Fleet to newest generation of shielded ships
>some xeno scum jumps into Sol and starts shit

And i was just getting bored, how nice of them.

>>172646221
>Synth ascension
Reminder that this replaces you with the synth robot, including the ugly fucking sprite.

>>172631009
>Diplomacy is still 4 options of nothing past the first hour
They shipped the game with 0 (zero) trade mechanics beyond exchanging your unlimited supply of energy for some minerals you can't even fit in the stockpile anymore.
There are two ways nations interact - military conflict (including prevention through pacts) and exchange. There's none of the latter, making it impossible to even make diplomacy worthwhile for anything not related to throwing doomstacks at someone. The game needs to hand out serious modifiers for positive interaction if anyone is supposed to care about those opinion points.

>Hiveminds can't become robutts

So what was the point of making a borg government then not being able to make the borg?

>>172654991
You don't want the synth option anyway, not unless the droid model gets you hard.

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>>172648032
GOD FUCKING DAMNNNN

>>172655252
I have no problem the robot models. Look like Geth

Is there a list of Civics currently floating around? I want to know what's available to us besides Agricultural Idyll, Beacon of Liberty and Fanatic Purifiers.

Agricultural Idyll seems amazing, you get Unity from farms.

Who else is going to repeatedly reset their first Tall empire for Utopia until they get spawned in a nebula so they can build their entire civilization within the cloud?

>>172651616
>m-muh stormfaggotry
Lmao nigger where do you think you are.

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>>172656248

>I'ma gonna cut you up infidel

>>172656248

The best part about this strategy is some of those nebulae are huge, and they're 3x more likely to contain strategic resources.

>>172656456

Go Biological and watch your Garden bloom.

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>Watching the Utopia LIVE
>They pop open the soundtrack
>Chat is exploding with "who the fuck is Mercedes Romero?"
>The bearded nu-male with a top knot on the right is joking about, "What do you mean, who is Mercedes Romero?"
>Starts joking about how even people in the office don't know MR, and he quips about them being equally ignorant

Jesus fucking Christ why does this guy have such a boner for the Blorg, did Quill let him fuck his wife or something?

>>172656287
Not on your shit contaiment board thats for sure.

>>172656093
There is a list of known civics on Reddit

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>>172657726

>Watching video
>They start blaring new songs
>mfw I mute to keep my virgin ears pure for my first playthrough

>>172658094

I don't know how to navigate that site, I've never been on it before.

>>172648690
What trait/ethos mod is that?

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>>172650106
Dumb sheenyposter

>>172658492
Ethics Government Rebuild.

>>172653513
It's your God given job to civilize the shit out of those space niggers.

>>172658719
>God given job
>materialist, induvidualist egalitarians

Im sorry what ?

6 days until Utopia

>>172614267
If you spam missilevettes you can take out the star-port fairly early game.

It's a pretty good reason to start with missiles, and then just switch to mostly kinetics latter on.

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>>172659190

>mfw I just realized the game drops on Thursday
>mfw I'm leaving for a Bachelor's Party Weekend that day

Now I have a reason to drink.

>>172659180
I'm sorry for not following your posts from the beginning. They are obviously top interesting & entertaining to miss.
Geez, what a fucking faggot.

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>>172658254
I'll help you this time. https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/62g21n/egx_stream_info_civics/

>>172659384
>im going to be partying with bros and getting laid all weekend
>im sad because i will miss launch of a patch to Paradox game

Nigguh plz, life is more importnat. Game wont run away.

>>172659405
Way to be passive agressive cunt, you lazy fucking faggot.

>>172659518

Thanks, friend!

>>172659602
>Nigguh plz, life is more important. Game wont run away.

Good point, I'm just finding a reason to bitch.

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>105% ethics divergence was a mistake

Oh shit nigga more nostalgia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGOMnE26jNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBWrAiWBLc

Well at least put your Observation Post to Aggressive, you dried cumstain! Increase your social gains!

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Is there a point to Ruler Skill levels? I'm inspecting >>172659518 and thinking of what I want to do for my Daoine Sidhe race. Philosopher King + Exalted Priesthood seems pretty good.

>>172658709
I have to bother you once more: What uniform mod is that?

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Is there a list of all the factions and their policy demands in the Utopia expansion?

I am wondering if egalitarian-spiritualist-militarists is still a reasonable game plan.

>>172659405
>>172659602
>>172659860

>>172659959
Part of Sins of the Prophets i think.
UNSC ones probably.

So is no one playing civ6?

>>172659946
Philosopher King
>+2 Ruler Skill Levels
>Dictatorial or Imperial Authority

Exalted Priesthood
>+20% Governing Ethics Attraction
>Spiritualist, Oligarchic Authority

Can't combine them. The authorities don't match up.

>>172660276

Fuck.

What do Ruler Skill levels dooooooo.

>>172660374
Boosts up your governor levels, I think.

>>172660424

That sounds kind of useless!

Hey guys, you think the Blorg are going to be in the Shroud? That would be so epic! A whole bunch of super friendly fungus (they're fun-guy ha!) That just want to give you bliss!

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heh

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>>172660197
Just finished a Persia Game. It was pretty comfy.

>Rushed Pedro, because fuck Pedro
>The movement boost during surprise wars was really useful to invade into jungle
>Built up towards science, but dicked around with religion
>Alexander hates everyone in the late game, because peace
>Teddy hates me because I develop territory, ie, play the game.
>Kongo could have won culture, if I didn't steal their art.

The Satrapies bonus is cool.
Hardly used Pairidaezas.
>Once you are developed, and build a navy, Hardrada will always be your bud
>Russia loves me so much, they easily forgive me stealing their art

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>Base planet limit in Utopia starts at 3

Why do they insist on doubling down on the bad mechanics?

>>172659384
>Bachelor's Party Weekend that day
Christ. Regular Bachelor's Parties are already full of infidelity and other disgusting shit, I can only imagine a weekend involves making yourselves the very scum of the Earth and completely undeserving of marriage.

>>172661576
>planet limits
>playing without no limits mods
>ever

>>172613042
I've never played a more boring city builder in my life.

>>172661576

Don't worry anon, they've added cheap techs to increase your planet limit!

Not only that, but if you play pacifist (why aren't you pacifist, you shitlord) you get +2 planets!

>>172661769
>People with weak ability to defend themselves or their interests have more planets
Makes no sense.

when will they put up the four civ vi dlcs for a lowered price

>>172661769
It's systems you autists.

>>172661769
>>172661849

Pacifist is now the best.

Agrarian Idyll
Farms now produce 1 Unity
Pacifist, not Authoritarian

>>172661621
>Spoken like a true beta who's been cheated on too many times

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>>172661621

Anon, I don't think you understand how shitty this weekend is going to be.

Let me say that my brother is lame and antisocial, we joked about taking him to Las Vegas and he freaked out because he hates cities and hates being around people, so we had to surreptitiously book staying in a cabin for the weekend in the middle of Tennessee because that's somewhere he used to always go with his friends and he thinks it's "calm and relaxing after being stressed out around people for the week."

He works a job where he hardly sees anyone and spends most of his time at home or with his fiance, who's either always sick or fawning over his plan to give up his 100k job so he can move into a communal farm in the middle of nowhere so he can be away from people.

I don't get it. I fucking don't get it at all dude. I was the robot in the family, I was the sperg, and now I'm the guy that *loves* going to cities and being around people while my brother and father are increasingly of the "muh land, I want to sit in a chair for 8 hours a day and look at forest trees until I die" type.

>>172662034
cant get cheated on if you've never been engaged in the first place

>>172662034
Stop respodnding to leaks from /r9k/ and their madonna whore complex delusions.

>>172662135

You should be proud, your brother swallowed the tedpill.

>>172662304

It's a lifestyle I just can't understand, my man. It's the type of deal where my father is obsessed with those Alaska shows because it's "men working the land, I need my land, can't stop thinking about the land."

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>there are still people who play without Station Rework mod

Explain yourself.

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>>172662034
And I'm guessing you're pic related?

>>172662469

It's the natural way for mankind to live tho, I wouldn't be worried about them unless they start mailing bombs to universities and airports demanding that their manifesto gets published.

>>172662487
>Way too much power
>Why are non-accessory modules in the accessory slots?
>Station isn't a solid structure.

>>172662487
Looks shitty, unrealistic and retarded.

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>>172662685
>>Way too much power
And ?

>>Why are non-accessory modules in the accessory slots?
Because they are aux modules, no accessories.

>>Station isn't a solid structure.
Its a orbital MAC cannon from HALO. Looks awesome.

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>>172662630

I guess you're right, it's why I don't really rag on them for it unless they're showing too much of their rustic boner.

The thing that actually bothers me - really, truly bothers me - about it is not their lifestyle choices, but how my father tries to push his lifestyle on us. I mean sure, asking us to visit his parents on the farm is one thing, but it's completely different when he practically demands for my sister, who works in pharmaceuticals, should get a shitty pharmacy tech job in the town 10 minutes away from his parents farm so she can be around them.

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What did they mean by this?

>>172662487
This is just fucking stupid. Why give it all those slots? Just make the base stats much higher.

>>172662034
Your complaint would only remotely make sense if I was talking bout Bachelorette parties.

Instead I am complaining about other men for cheating on their fiances during bachelor's parties, which is unfortunately common.

>>172662135
You're trying to induce your brother to cheat on his fiance? What kind of shitty brother are you?

>>172663005

Armageddon bombardment is designed to wipe out life very, very quickly.

>>172663005
Purges all pops from the planet.

>>172663105
Could yopu take that /r9k/ faggotry somewhere else ?

>>172663048
>this is stupid, why should huge station have all those places to put things on
>they should just artificially inflate its stats

Are you fucking retarded ?

>>172662995

He's just lonely and more than likely believes that anyone who works in pharmaceuticals that isn't a mom and pop shop is working for the devil incarnate.

>>172663392
Yes it is stupid. Because all you did was dump a bunch of stats onto it using the slots, meaning it would be no different to just bump up the base stats of the station to make it stronger.

>>172663239

Not only can you purge pops through orbital bombardment and not only can you process entire species into food through Purge, but there's a new War Demand that forces the enemy to depopulate a planet you select.

>>172662970
>doesn't use new graphics for the new modules they add
Shitty mode, mate

Get the armor tech, and replace some of the generator modules with armor.

Unless there has been a change in the overpowering math, +200 is far too much. A station shouldn't even need buffs to Evasion and Combat Speed.

From the wiki:
A ship with an over-positive power balance enjoys improved performance, proportionate to power required. This gives a percentile buff to Evasion, Combat Speed and Weapon Damage and can be seen on the respective tooltips in the designer. The formula is complicated and leads to diminishing returns towards a 10% bonus. A ship needing 10 power but having 20 would get +5% bonus. A ship with 10/70 Power has only +8%. And a ship with 10/100 has 9%.

>>172663496
What part of fuck off back to /r9k/ did you not understand nigga ?

>>172663541
No, it means that station is now worth a shit and is way more options to tinker with.

>>172663725
>it means that station is now worth a shit
Which could be achieved by just modding stations to be worth shit via base stats.
>is way more options
Wow look at all those "options" you put like 16 power cells and 20+ shield units on it. Could have been achieved the exact same effects just by modifying the station's base stats. Stupid.

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>>172625071
I'm playing basic humans, and i don't have emitters

>>172663680
>ship

Keyword here.
When your station has almost 2k firepower, 1% less or more isn't that important. At least for me.

>>172663878
>Wow look at all those "options" you put like 16 power cells and 20+ shield units on it. Could have been achieved the exact same effects just by modifying the station's base stats. Stupid.>>
Because i early in game.
Once i unlock more shit i will have more options and could customize it to my liking.
Stay mad.

>>172662487
I don't play stellaris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

>Did you know . . .
>that Thomas North Whitehead suggested that the United Kingdom give America one of the four surviving copies of the Magna Carta to win support for Lend-Lease?

>>172664112
>>172663725
Damn senpai. Y'all sure are lazy baiters.

Also the alpha/beta thing makes you look more /r9k/ than anyone.

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>tfw playing PreFTL is nightmare

>>172664086
>ship
>Keyword here.

Does the math work differently for stations? If I am not mistaken, all you are buffing is Weapon Damage, since stations have 0 combat speed and evasion.

The bonus caps at +10%, and +100 power gives you +9% weapon damage.

The percentage bonus is useful, I am not refuting that. It is just that +200 power is too much. You hardly get anything past +100, so slap some armor on.

You can't get anymore guns on that thing, and you have no armor modules.

shitty looking model, anyways.

>>172664626
Oh yes, and no delusions of happiness or grandeur

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Well fuck me running ...

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>>172663892
>Those giant ass blobs

You got surrounded by hegemonic imperialists didn't you?

>>172661849
>People with ethics that favour cooperation and coexistence over competition and conflict need less state intervention to keep them working for the society

>>172665210
some of those are actually terrifying.
Like unvaulting rapid survivors on a tomb world, but mutated mosntrocities of a botched terraforming is pretty high up there as well.

I want more events damnit.
>find voyager probe with the golden record
>track down earth
>upon arrival, shoot the record into the sun as a message of fuck you
First contact like a BOSS

>>172665210
This can happen with unfinished terraform project?
Done it twice so far and only got gaia worlds out of it.

Damn

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>>172661849
>People with weak ability to defend themselves

Do not confuse my kindness for weakness.