/twg/ - Total War General

reddit rats are bad and you should feel bad for even thinking of playing with them

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>mulching entire formations of rodents with well aimed mortar shots, eviscerating their army with rocket blasts, destroying their oversized hamster wheels with cavalry, before sending a steam tank causing their army to scurry back into the sewers in terror
>cooking thaggoraki fucking shits to death from afar with flame cannons, before turning them into foul cowardly pincushions, with the few who aren't turned into odorous puddles by blasting charges before reaching your lines quickly having their beady-eyed heads separated from their bodies courtesy of a dawi az
>gleefully watching thousands of rats shit themselves and flee when they realize for every zombie or skeleton they kill, another rises to take its place, only for their retreat to be cut off by nightmarish monstrosities that would make their brutish creatures tremble in fear
>Choppin' up lotsa gurly rats, laughin' ter yourself while givin' dim a propa beetin' an tearin' thruu their "elite slugga boyz" wif ease
>Trampling hordes of hornless craven creatures that are below even the lowest ungor, before feasting on the masses of putrid flesh left behind by their rancid corpses
>Slaughtering the wannabe nurglites, reveling in the bloodshed as their pathetic weaponry glances off of your armor, adding dozens of skulls to Khorne's throne with every swing of your axe
>ambushing any vermin that appear within athel loren, swiftly, silently, and effortlessly picking off groups of rats with every volley, only for the remaining survivors to be turned into sub-par compost by forest spirits
>trampling thousands upon thousands of vermin beneath the hooves of your steed for the lady, serving Brettonia in the field of battle as even the most lowly peasants find themselves capable of besting rats in combat

Soon

>>172525370
lizards

>>172525370
KANGZ WHEN

>>172525470
t. tumblr lizard shit

New TW game reveal in 1 day. What will it be?

>>172525556

Total War: Harry Potter

>>172525550
it's tumblr toads you uncultured swine

>>172525370
Does Lileath benefit in any shape or form from the worship of Bretonnians or is it purely a materialistic relationship in order to protect the Wood Elves?

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What are your /hiddengems/ on Youtube /twg/?

Mine are these TWW Gamplay Machinimas by GameThump. Really /comfy/ interplay of cinematic shots and cuts, battle noises and battle progresssion. Very neat and worth a look, the last few have upped their storyboarding cut sequence game:

Open Season on Gobbos Machinima:
https://youtu.be/HZwRecr8L-g

Empire vs Successionists Machinima:
https://youtu.be/vDr6R5j6h5Q

At War with Undead Machinima:
https://youtu.be/vbs5uAX5U7E

Battle of Black Fire Pass Machinima:
https://youtu.be/SC3nfZKPb64

>>172525584
shit I'd play it

>>172525470
I'm going to play rats on VH/Normal while savescumming and there is nothing you can do to stop me, boy-thing.

Aren't you man-things all sleepy-tired from waiting for this announcement? Its dangerous to not rest-sleep for long periods of time, I think instead of waiting for this announcement we humans should all go to sleep. We are all very tired aren't we? Just snooze-sleep...

>>172525556
jurassik park vs reddit with flashy faggots and dark faggots>total war

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>>172525625

>>172525472
>feasting on the masses of putrid flesh left behind by their rancid corpses
uh contrary to popular opinion Beastmen are very hygienic and only eat clean meats like Elfs

>>172525723
more like elf dick

>>172525683
>flashy faggots
boring faggots*

edgy children are their opposition

>>172525723
>they poo and pee everything in sight
>hygienic

>>172525584
What time period on the Harry Potterverse are we talking here?

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>>172525643
>>172525660

>>172525660
Yes-yes, sleep! Be sure to leave any bright green stones you might have near your closest sewer entrance, so that they may be safely disposed of and not interfere with your sleep-snoozes

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>>172525556
LIZARDS VS RATS VS ASIAN ELVES VS NORDIC ELVES

>>172525625
Turin. Absolutely stellar multiplayer player, love watching his commentaries.

>>172525470
>Lizardmemes

>>172525853

>still posting this without a key

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Reminder that Skaven are master race

Are skaven females indistinguishable from males? I have never seen one but you'd think there would be swarms of them probably getting fucked 24/7

>>172525853
wtf is Southlands doing there?

>>172525956
skaven females except for a few are kept penned up and bred constantly

>>172525991
Pretty much just making the map sqaure and not a weird upside-down L.

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Total War: A Bug's Life

>>172526085
I assume it will be inaccessible.

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>>172525946

Masters race of the sewers, maybe.

>>172526283
...source?

What race smells the best?

VC buffs when?

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>>172525956
They are huge milk and litter production facilities and basically can't move from breeding pits. I don't think there are any females that exist outside of breeders canonically, maybe in a bl book.

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>>172526357
Skaven

>>172526357
Probably HE, WE might be nicer with a herbal scent

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>>172526357

Dark Elves

>copper, sweat and perfume

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>172526283
Aside from the gayness I cannot imagine the horror of sticking your dick in a monster as filthy as a skaven. How many layers of aids would you be on

>>172526357
High elves probably

>>172526346

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2084990#

>>172526630

You just gotta bring home, clean and domesticate that shit, brah, then its no problem.

>>172526648
welp that's enough /twg/ for me today

>>172525470
Please stop this bullshit. Its this sort of idiocy that turns a good general bad.

>>172525956
Any females born are used for producing more skaven

They are the most valuable thing in the world to the skaven, and probably the only thing they wont dare backstab. They get a whole bunch of machines attached to them so they basically last forever producing thousands and thousands of rats every day.

>>172526493
>http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2084990#
WE would smell like shit and BO,dont kid yourself

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>>172525470
lizardmeme genocide best-best day of my life

>>172525853
The map wont be that big

>"Anuthar clan, welcome! -Get your knives out, boys-"
>"How can we fleec- I mean, help ya?"
>"See that candle, stunty? That's dwarf fat, that is!"

Best gobbo.

>>172526283
>>172526648
>>172526732
>>172527102


BY SIGMAR, NO!

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>>172527328


>>172527328

These posts do not have the generals consent!

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Toad

Tomorrow is the day!

>>172527482
*That the expansion gets announced and then its only 6 months until release!

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>>172527446

Fatass toads.

What are the top 3 items on your Warhammer 2 wishlist?
What are the top 3 items on your wishlist for the Next Historical Game?

Personally
Warhammer 2
>more distinct settlement battle maps (like the mods are doing pretty much)
>some randomness in where the Big Bad threat appears
>customization, even a tiny bit

Historical
>simpler campaign - I felt like I spent 90% of my time in Attila staring at the campaign map, when I wanted to be battling
>gunpowder
>peasant slaughter

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>>172527623
GIANT LIZARDS
RIDING GIANT DINOSAURS

>>172527641
I want whatever bullshit CA is about to pull to stop.

You just wait.

>>172527641
>What are the top 3 items on your wishlist for the Next Historical Game?

>funpowder
>no agents
>optimization

Would you pre-order the expansion to get an Estalia pre-order bonus?

>>172527784

top kek

>>172527784
Only after shitposting loudly about day 1 DLC and CA being scum of the earth

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>>172527681

Giant lizard dinosaurs fighting demons from hell!

>>172527784

No, I'd wait a year, buy the game and maybe the DLC then for less than 30 bucks.

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>>172527962
L I Z A R D M E N

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>>172527784
First i make thread on steam saying that CA worse than hitler

Then i have 100 posts on /twg/ about jews

Then i write negative reviews on every single dlc CA done, even free one

Then i pre order game

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>poo in the loo developer remoes the feminine aspect of dryads to "demolish stereotypes," reduces it to a lurching wood monster

Why did CA ruin Warhammer's Dryads, /twg/?

More like Based Demons make lizardshits genocide

>It's the 31
>A bunch of /twg/ virgins are sweating buckets in front of their PC
>keyboards greasy, mouses oily
>On the monitor, the Total War site countdown is approaching its end
>/twg/ still getting many posts, everyone chanting "Today is the day!"
>10 seconds left
>the thread stops
>it seems like time has frozen for a while
>site updates
>It's a video
>autistic screechings begin to hum through the suburbs of many cities
>the video starts
>a jungle
>some mayan ruins
>through the foliage a human figure, a conquistador appears
>historical total war fans join the hum
>screeching intensifies
>people's ear start bleeding
>everyone wonders what's going on
>"IT'S A NEW HISTORICAL TOTAL WAR GUISE"
>/twg/ explodes
>"TOTAL WAR: THE NEW WORLD" guise!!11!one!
>shitposting intensifies
>from the mayan pyramid a fucking giant lizard appears
>historical total war fans explode
>they literally swell up and explode
>Warhammer fans are masturbating
>pre-order now to receive Estalia DLC!

>>172525956
>>172526364

some manage to escape that fate by bassicly hidding the fact they are female , but the ones that mostly escape it are the ones that are born white , as they are blessed by the horned rat , if the skaven clan still decide to make her a broodmother , then the horned rat fuck them up in some fashion

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>>172528198

So, since you used that OP image, what's the most fun BB2 faction to play? I started the main humie campaign and it's a little boring, I build a cage, move to touchdown and that's it. I heard orcs are also good for beginners, kinda like humies, but more bashy.

>>172528198
>he think warhammer world would have a lot of cute stuff

90% of everything in that world want you dead , wood spirits are no exception

>>172528314
The tree-tits that were promised
This also makes me remember that spites and spirits don't show up anywhere in the whole faction.

Ah, what could have been..

>>172528198

Am I supposed to be attracted to the alien pretending to be a human on the left?

>>172527410
I don't think whatever happened had the rats' consent either.

>>172528198
Maybe they just didn't feel like making extra models for them. Dryads in warhammer are supposed to be those horrible tree monsters, sometimes masquerading as qt grills, to lull interlopers into false sense of security. Animating an army of dryads to momentarily change shapes as they join combat and change back as they finish fighting sounds like a lot of extra, somewhat meaningless work.

>>172528314
I want to FUCK that Branchwraith

>>172528371
Wanting you dead doesn't exclude them from having slender, feminine figures that give you a boner because you are a hard masochist and want to be dominated by a best elf

>>172528371
This version would have been a good mixture of female form and scary monstrosity though >>172528314

>>172528460

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGo41443iI

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>>172528243
tfw i'm fan of both warhammer and history and will be happy regardless if this is historical or fantasy title

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>>172528314
did you even see the regular dryad models? or read the lore. fuck u waifufag go hug some dirty elves.


>>172528314
I'm awful cut about the lack of tree spirits too anon,Drycha had some neat mechanics on the tt that I wouldn't be sure how they would translate to total war at all.

pic related though, it's a dryad in it's war form.

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>>172528563
They don't need two models, they could've just patterned the model after the one that's in the actual warhammer tabletop game.

They brought in the art designer behind the Dryads in the game and they talked about their deliberate decision to design away from the tabletop in order to look less feminine

What's more fun, Tree Spirit Armies or Wood Elf Armies?

>>172528534

>implying some that cum isnt his

>>172528673

This, honestly.

>>172528913
I want to reply but I just feel that this'll devolve into a fetish fight, so lets not.

how long do you think well have to wait for the release of warhammer 2 after the announcement?

>>172529174
winter 2017

>>172528857
I can't really say. I really enjoy having a bunch of fast ap archers and fighting dwarves but I really like having huge ass trees vs empire, undead and so forth. It's really based on who you're fighting.

>>172529174
Fall 2017 maybe

>>172529174

Holiday 2017

>>172529174
Spring 2017

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>>172529284
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>>172529240
>>172529297

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>>172528210
THIS

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>>172529420
Not until third game in two years.

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So I'm starting Empire campaign for the first time

Any suggestions?

I took a look at the map and it looks like its going to be a pain to attack anyone without getting gangbanged by every humie, dorf, dumpire and goblin in the vicinity

>>172529174
Hard to say but they must be well ahead with making it so probably August/September time.

>>172529564
Yes ;_;

>>172529740

Take Marienburg.

>>172529740
>secure reikland
>fight off early beastmen incursion that typically happens
>secure marienburg

this is the to-do list for my empire campaigns usually. If you don't know how to deal with raiding ai stacks via liberal use of ambushes/agents, don't bother with the 2nd city in the wasteland, just take marienburg itself

>>172529825
If you mean 2018 then yes

>>172529894
2018? The year?

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>New empire campaign and I got 100% upgraded aldorf province, just starting to ship Steam tonks and gryphons up to the northern outpost and the chaos invasion has only just started, and Nordland, Middleheim and a burly Averland are all ready to rock.

Suck my dick chaos shits let's see your faggot ass doomstacks now.

>>172492181

They should just cut the middle man...gor, out and let Chaos recruit beastmen down south. I forget how chaos recruitment works but maybe even something like "You can only recruit hardcore chaos in the north, you can recruit regular chaos if you have 50% or more chaos energy in a region, you can recruit beastmen anywhere". Make it like how you could get neat Auxilia units in R2/EB without having to play some shitty ass Numidians or whatever.

>>172529876

So just leave Nuln alone then?

>>172529894
nah they've blown their DLC load and need to get this out before revealing the next historical. People don't want to commit to two dlc heavy total war games.

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Who will be the LLs for the New World Factions? Taking all bets!

>Lizardmen - Mazdamundi, Kroq Gar, Tehenhauin
>Skaven - Grey Seer Thanquol, Queek Headtaker, Lord Skrolk
>Edgy Elves - Malekith, Morathi, Malus Darkblade
>Faggy Elves - Tyrion, Teclis, Alarielle

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>>172530201

>let Chaos recruit beastmen down south

Why even?

There's more Beastmen in the Chaos Wastes than anywhere else

>>172530246
Yeah ignore them, they will ask for a confed soon enough. Don't confed Talabecland or Stirland either since you might overextend, but ready to fight back undead if they get giddy with Averland or take Wurtbad

>>172530246
No, just be sure to do the other things before anything else

>>172530328
>3lls/faction

You think they will do this, or leave it at 2/each like WH was at launch (excluding chaos)

>>172530384
>no beastmen in badlands of dark lands
Are Orcs the ultimate counter to beastmen?

>>172530462
I'd say yes.

>>172530412
I think the elves will get three at start and Skaven and Lizardmen will get two at start but with an immediate pre-order DLC for Clan Pestilins and maybe a Lizardman lord.

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>>172529740

>destroy rebel scum

>park your ass in Helmgart and wait for that asshole Kazak One-Eye to show up

>murder him and send his severed head to Boris

>make Marianburg your bitch and make them enjoy it

Also put walls in all your cities

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>>172528198

>>172530328
whoa whoa whoa not so fast my man
you get one melee legendary lord and one mage legendary lord

Fortunately, in your example we just cut off the last one for each faction and sell it to you later as DLC

>>172530568

>Also put walls in all your cities

All of them?

>>172530462

Look closer, you can see some tendrils in the badlands. But clearly the Orcs keep them in check.

>>172530676
Yes, every single one. They pay for themselves in the long run.

>>172530714

>But clearly the Orcs keep them in check.

By eating them?

>>172530676
All the minor ones and some big ones closer to frontlines. What are you even doing if you aren't putting walls into every single minor settlement on T2?

>>172530676
yes, all settlements must have walls, this is true for all factions

>>172530754

Well, the orcs will eat anything, so yeah.

>>172530384
Wtf beastmen even doing in chaos wastes? Fighting and eating each other?

>>172530831
Does that mean that ork cuties eat ass?

>>172530889

>Fighting and eating each other?

Yeah?

>>172530676
>>172530765
All of them.
Would disagree on the major settlements though.
The only reason to have walls is to give you a turn or two to react to Norscan stack #56

>>172530889

You forgot the rape

>>172530892

No they eat gobbos

>>172529174
I think between 1 and 12 months

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>>172530328
No idea how they are going to distribute the skaven if this will be totally standalone. Thanquol or Queek in Lustria would be bizarre.

>>172529174
6 - 8 months.

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>>172530892

>orc cuties

Unless this is some disgusting, degenerate wonderful Rule 63d version of Warhammer, they don't exist. Orcs and Goblins literally sprout from the fucking earth.

>>172530889

Yes.

>>172531000
It'll be way more than 1 month, they need time for marketing

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>>172530328

>Grey Seer Thanquol

>making a literal joke character whose entire existence is predicated on how much of a fucking failure he is at anything and everything he does

>Legendary Lord

what.

>>172531048
>if this will be totally standalone
God fucking dammit why do you cunts keep saying this

Its a standalone expansion that attaches to the current campaign map. They've been very fucking clear on this.

God fucking dammit. Its like watching the youtube video comment section
>OH MY GOD TOTAL WAR SOUTH AMERICA!
>Uh no, thats a Chinese pyramid its total war china also china is biggest market in world so they do that for money
>TW RENAISSANCE THIS YEAR WOO
>uh guys its going to be the expansion to warhammer
>BUT WARHAMMER 1 ISNT EVEN FINISHED YET WHY ARE THEY MAKING A SECOND GAME?
>I hope this is Total War; Aztec!

>>172531167

He's also the only Skaven character anyone cares about.

>>172531167
Well, we already have Kemmler.

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If Skaven have nest under every city, have biggest population in entire world, probably best military technology and extremely militaristic society

Why cant they conquer whole world then?

>>172531174
So if you buy this game on its own you get the old world map with unplayable ai on it and the new map?

>>172531262
they won't stop killing each other and their shits all retarded.

>>172531048
I imagine Skaven are going to be the incentive to own the first game and they'll be the only race to have settlements in both worlds.

>>172531167
>Not referencing other Warhammer merchandise, especially the novels

Do you even market, bro? Thanquol is basically one of the few Skaven anybody actually knows or gives a shit about.

>>172531167

if hes so much of a failure then why was he able to destroy Nuln smart guy?

>>172531262
Cooperation and coordination is the foundation for a successful military operation. They don't have it.

>>172531167
>Skaven

>literal joke faction whose entire existence is predicated on how much of a fucking failure they are at anything and everything they do

what.

>>172531245
ikit nigga

>>172531262
Not every city

society isn't militaristic, just horrifically violent leader's will direct them to get the most resources in the shortest possible time
most of the time this is stabbing other leaders in the back

They're kinda 40k grimdark.
The world could end at any moment if the skaven so wished except they don't because they would rather infight

>>172531262

Because they're also cowardly and backstab each other constantly. They nearly did overrun the Empire once, though.

>>172527623
>Ahhh Mah Scalees

>>172531262
See
>>172531374

>>172531301
If you buy Old World you can play as Empire, Orcs, Dwarfs and Vampires
If you buy New World you can play as Lizards, HE, DE and Skaven
If you own both, you can play as all eight.

Both are on the exact same map.

>>172531350
This. The Skaven aren't militaristic. They're just incredibly fucking violent and malicious. And most of that is insular, keeping them in check.

>>172531262
Clan rivalry and civil wars, they are a race not a 'faction' as such same as humans and only get together if the horned rat intervenes. They are cowards and prefer to slowly undermine their enemies than risk violent battles. Queek is unusual and prefers direct assaults. They probably couldn't conquer teh world anyway, there's some deus ex shit out there.

>>172531245
Queek is well loved and pestilens may get popular.

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>>172531262
If Chinese espionage has infiltrated every corporation and university in the west, China has the biggest population in the entire world, and an extremely collective society with the world's largest military

Why can't they conquer the world?

>>172531262
>extremely militaristic society
But they dont

You need to think about Skaven like this; they are rats in a barrel.

Left alone they will obliterate themselves until only 1 survives, this literally makes up 90% of what happens in Skaven society.

Its only when some dumbfuck falls into the barrel, or the barrel overflows a bit due to Skaven not fucking themselves in the ass so much that they attack other places.

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>High elves this century
It's a good feel desu

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>>172531331

>referencing End Times

>ever

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>>172531630
can't wait to make a knifeear necklace

>>172531630
>people are upset about overpowered flying charge units already
>High Elf Air Force hasn't even arrived yet
Ohhh boy, this is going to be good.

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Why is vlad von carstein so freaking op? i have never had so easy time on legendary campaign....

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>>172531721

You have no idea

>>172530384
Tilea would be the perfect place to live in WFB universe if it wasn't for the fact that the greatest skaven city is near them.

>>172531612
They're a highly collective society of a million separate collectives

they're also short-sighted and grossly incompetent

>>172530768
You can skip a few spots as dwarf and Bret and keep them purely economic.

But yeah >>172530676 as Empire, ALL OF THEM, the minor settlements that is. For walls on bigger ones Id say do it in Marrienburg and depending where you expand. I usually defend at Hochland/Talabecland part of the map so I wall those two big cities up as well + Middenland as well. If you manage to get anything past that point towards chaos or norsca, walls are a must unless its turn 400 and its an age of peace.

>>172531779
how the fuck this shit suppose to land safely?

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>>172531787
>get a decent job as a clerk at a shipping company
>competitor shipping company bribes the temples
>enjoy the interior of an iron maiden until you feel like confessing to nothing you've actually done so that death can end the pain

>>172531779
>Welcome to Star Dragon airlines
>In case of an emergency such as being attacked by a Star Dragon, please place your table in the upright position, place your feet firmly on the floor, lean forward and kiss your ass goodbye
>Thank you for choosing Star Dragon Airlines, the only airline that has no counter in the air or ground

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What do Skaven think about generic rats?
Small brothers?

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>>172531952
If you're unharmed and it's not burning it's a successful landing. Webm unrelated.

>>172532060
Food.

>>172531952
Elevated docks with a perch for the bird?

>>172532010
I would assume no shipping company would be on business if they cant outbribe the temples.

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I swear to God if CA make the Skaven a Horde-like and don't try to implement the Under-Empie, I'll be mildy frustrated

>>172532121
Ratpaths

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>>172532049
I would have posted this pic, but I got attacked by a Star Dragon and died.

>>172532060
https://youtu.be/KxTaQmhztVQ

>>172532183
Well, that not very nice

>>172532121
HoM&M style underground map or riot

>>172532060
sometimes they pump them full of warpstone steroids and use them as human wave fodder when they run out of normal skavenslaves

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>>172532154

>>172532121
>Skaven are a horde
>You have continuous infighting, but can recruit globally
>Under Empire is a 10 slot 'capital' that cant be lost
>You are at war with everyone all the time, including all other Skaven clans
>Even if you raise the pestilence in a province, it just spawns more Skaven who hate you
Enjoy

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>>172530384
Lustria is weirdly free of peepee poopoos EXPLAIN THIS SHIT TO ME

>>172532615
The entire continent is covered by a jungle biologically engineered to resist chaos

>>172532615
Lizardmen are the antithesis of chaos.

>>172532615
Looks like these lizard need more diversity

>>172532615
Lizardmen were made to remove chaos, Ulthuan is free too.

>beastmen
>chaos
You guys are just misunderstanding the beautiful indigenous culture of the beastman. It's a strong and primal way of life, not chaotic. Don't be such racists.

>>172532749
They weren't made to remove Chaos at all.
They were made for a ton of different planetary colonial tasks.
Chaos happened to get in the way of every last one, so they're the number one on Toad hitlists.

>>172531763
KING OF DARKNESS

>>172532615
>No poo poo in Tilea and Estalia
Is dad true?

>>172531763
*teleports behind and around you but in generally very close to you to minimize the distance I need to travel and thus reduce my vulnerability to missiles*

>>172532737
Speaking of which, will it be possible to cross over continents? Although i'd imagine it'd be a colossal waste of time for most factions unless they make the victory conditions a bit looser.

>>172532060
They think of them same way orcs think about snotlings, meaning they don't unless they happen to get a bit peckish.

>>172533007
You can literally see the new map on the current map

Its like 3 or 4 turns of sailing to get between the two

>>172532831

Beastmen are Chaos, not that it matters much, they'll always be second fiddle to Norscans.

I AM SUPREME

BASED GOLD MAGIC

>>172526508
>Dark Elves will NOT look like this in game

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>>172532410
one man can dream-dream

>>172532878
Old Ones fought chaos before. They trapped many daemons in 40k.

>>172532967
Not sure about your dad, but there is poo poo in Estalia

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Are Skaven tainted by Chaos? They seem like Chaos.

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>>172531763

Because he's smart, handsome and most importantly NOT a manlet

>>172533281
They have their own Chaos god anon-san

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>>172531763
t.mannlet worst cuckstein

Who else is hoping for a new AAAAH meme being introduced in the trailer tomorrow?

>>172533410
AHHHHHH THE NEW WORLD

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>manually control a town garrison to fight against an invading full stack in hope that I can weaken them somewhat
>they rout without killing a single enemy combatant
Have some balls you fuckwits, you're protecting your hometown.

>>172533281
They speak bastardized Chaos speech while elves speak simplified Old Ones speech.

>>172533410
AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH RAAATS!

>>172533410
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHLUSTRIA

>>172533163
40k and fantasy aren't always the same setting depending on depiction.
And yes, they did elsewhere. Lizardmen are drones specific to this world and their roles were to manage and teach the not shit races and eliminate anything deemed negative, which was before chaos showed up.
When chaos did show up they weren't able to properly deal with them.

>>172533595
>their own god, SOTEK.
Its Sigmar though.

>>172533595
>I just can get how GW destroyed years and years of lore creation (and GOOD lore BTW) to create age of shitmar, more if we take in cound the huge succes CA is making with TWW..

Some of this lore is just fucking priceless
>Archaon was born to a Nordland townswoman after her home was paid a visit to by a raiding party of bloodthirsty Norscan Chaos Warriors where the leader of said party, a Chaos Champion of Undivided, proceeded to rape her viciously before leaving her for dead amidst the burning husk of his village. The surprising thing here is that he was able to get his armour off in order to put his cock in her vagina, considering that most fluff indicates that Chaos Warriors are sealed inside their plate, but anywho. Of course, the village woman did not die, no, but was found clinging to life by her husband and children and later gave birth to the raider's bastard son. This child was left to wolves of Laurelorn before having been found by a Sigmarite priest and adopted as a page for the local church, and was thus named Diederick.
>Hilariously, the fisherwoman was named Viktoria Rothschild. This essentially makes Archaon an evil Jew bent on world domination. No, really, this is covered in the book Archaon - Everchosen.

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>>172533410

Lizard advisor WHEN

>>172533410
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH TENOCHTIQTALOTINTALOQIXTAN

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>>172533325
speaking about gods, the lizarmemes killed so many rats they created their own god, SOTEK.
I just can get how GW destroyed years and years of lore creation (and GOOD lore BTW) to create age of shitmar, more if we take in account the huge succes CA is making with TWW..


Damn evem I have the urge to play with my little grimgor miniature again. I mean, was it worth it?

>>172533732
I just want an Orc yelling at me for not fighting enough and ever looking at techs.

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>>172533595

>create a Snake God to eat the Rat God

>>172533709
>>172533678
sorry my grammar and mobile writting , had to delete it

>>172533805
I want special Nagash advisor for playing as Azhag who constantly berates you for going against his will.

>>172533709
>Archaon became Archaon because Sigma didnt give him any blessing when he went to Altdorf
>Horus became Horus when Big E didn't give him any attention either
So basically the entirely of Warhammer and 40k can be summed up as Daddy Issues; Fantasy and Scifi editions

>>172533709
I always hear that Archaon originally went crazy because he realized that the gods of order and the gods of chaos were two sides of the same coin. Was that ever the case, or did I fall for some headcanon?

>>172533709
>>172533898

I'm actually somewhat amazed that GW let that origin story through, even if it was in a BL book. I thought a company whose products is aimed at the somewhat younger market would be terrified of even mentioning rape.

>>172533998
He went crazy cause he realized he was a rape baby that didn't get a blessing on his pilgrimage in Altdorf.

>>172533998
You got headcanon'd

>>172534060
it would probably be harder to pull off nowadays.

>>172533998
The prophecy said that a half Nors and half empire child who was a knight would become the Everchosen once he traveled to Altdorf and asked who is the Everchosen

Yeah. GWS writing. Its equal parts fantastic and stupid.

>>172531763
legit answer inc

>stacks regen in combat
>vanguard deploys his entire army
>starts w/ blood knights
>global xp bonus that affects all units, including garrisons

That xp bonus is what makes him so absurdly op, the vanguard is nice but vamps are already absurd in battles vs the ai, but when every single unit factionwide is triple gold chevrons and all you had to do was spend a skill point, shits broken

>>172533998
He went mad because he found a book that predicted his entire life, including becoming everchosen and destroying the world, and when he tried to call on Sigmar for answers and got nothing, he got very upset and decided that he would destroy everything after all.

>>172534118
Isn't that newer canon though? I'm more interested in if what I posted was just older lore (implied or otherwise) which was retconned.
>>172534143
Oh that sucks, I liked the idea of a guy who wants to end the world because he figured out that everything was a lie.

>>172534060
>I thought a company whose products is aimed at the somewhat younger market
The TB market is 30+ year old white fat guys with way too much disposable income. Children cant afford to collect these miniatures.

You think a kid is going to give up $300 for half an army of hard to paint miniatures over a Switch or new iphone?

>>172533998
He was manipulated from birth to be archaon

how he decided it in is own head was resisting that fate with all of his might and realizing a mortal's lack of power in the face of divine manipulation
so he wants to end all divine manipulation by crashing the world with no survivors, divine or not

>>172533998
that was an event that consolidated his character development as the edgierchosen but not the first step nor the last.

>>172534343
You think they(their parents) can't afford both?

>>172534383
Yeah, I always got the "crash the plane of existence with no survivors" thing. I just thought that, at some point, there was more to it than a shitty prophecy.

>>172534343

>You think a kid is going to give up $300 for half an army of hard to paint miniatures over a Switch or new iphone?

Well, I did when I was that age and Iphones existed then, so some do. But I see your point, most of GWs market is probably fa/tg/uys, like you said.

>>172534486
Parents dont consider miniatures mainstream, so buying it is taboo, and GWS doesnt market to kids either.

>>172534383
Wasn't his father Bel'akor or its was tg joke?

>>172534587
stop posting

>>172534658
Sorry you cant handle truth, or GWS annual reports where they state the issues in selling to children and where their market is

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>garrisons are useless, they said

>>172525470
I have to play them, they have memelightening cannons

>>172534626

Be'lakor basically guided Archaon early on to make sure a bunch of different alternate futures didn't happen (like him being drowned at birth, kicked in the head by a horse or dying of plague).

His goal was to steal Archaon's crown at the moment of ascension, but that didn't work out.

>>172534745
Oh that may be the case now. But the statements that children can't buy them is false
as is the statement that parents don't buy it for them

>>172530328
You forgot:
>Day 1 DLC/preorder faggotry
>Delf Corsairs vs Arnhelm Worst Elfs DLC
>Clan Chemical warfare DLC
>bikini scale-fucker DLC units

>>172534974
Except they dont

t. GWS

And its always been true

t. Old GWS

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So If I understand right Archaon want to destroy the world because was sort of fucked by both good and bad guys and is angry that people doesn't have the free will?

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How do we make the game interesting and fun after Chaos is dead
>Empire is in ruins and doesn't resettle
>Badlandsbowl is over who ever won had nothing to do with the Chaos invasion
>Diplomacy goes into full retard mode
>Under 10 factions remain

>demons coming from the north since the dark elves are faggots who won't stand the ground
>Reddit rats emerging from the ground beneath our very cities
>all of this while chaos is burning down everything you've worked for on the other side of the world
Being a Lizardmene is suffering

>>172535110
No no no

He wants to destroy the world because [Fuck it]

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>>172535167
>after Chaos is dead

Son, you don't seem to understand the nature of chaos.

>>172535110
He wants to destroy it completely as a final fuck you to the gods of chaos.

>turn 2
>gelt get the +20 power reserve follower

oh boy

>>172535167
you don't really, the way chaos is now half of the map needs to be re-populated, and the only way that you can break up the shield of civilization bloc is by making the ai absolute retards

>>172535110
The best way to end evil and suffering is to kill all life.

Archaon did nothing wrong.

>>172525853
Pygmies confirmed!

>>172535172
pretty much, hopefully skaven corruption is a thing and for an event pestilens will pour plague into a spawning pool and boost corruption for some turns. Used to be some badass mini-story about it.

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What's your opinion on wiping out the realms of man?

>1 day
>1 hour
>1 minute

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Will skaven doing their thing in sewers a +chaos corruption or some kind of squalor mechanic?

>>172531518
>forgetting Bretonnia

>>172535751
Hopefully they have actual under-cities and CA implements some new mechanic with it.

>>172530545
>DLC for Pestilens
>when Pestilens is the faction that starts in the New World

Skaven will have 3 LLs and Pestilens will start in the New World while Skaven proper will be in Skavenblight

>>172535041
Don't know where you live but here about ten years ago my teenage friends and I outnumbered the older customers by around ten to one

>>172535751
>Rat corruption spawns an automated sewer quest battle close to the province capital
>if you don't attack the rat stronghold in time, your garrison weakens, walls and buildings crumble and an invasion comes forth

>>172535247
Once Age of Peace comes, it's dead for good apart form a few beastmen here and there and retreating norsca.

>>172535387
Is there a mod that triggers rebel like forces of the original land owners to reappear and take the settlements after Age of Peace hits?

>>172533410
It doesn't work here

>>172535390
pretty much, after warhammer world is fucked it's millennia of suffering and enslavement in AoS, Archaon wants to break the cycle.

>>172536062
That'd be pretty ebin, I'd also introduce a plague of a few turns before the quest battle pops.

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>>172525370
Wait what? Is seriously Blood Bowl accepted topic here now?

>>172535751
If Skaven don't have some form of underground city/underground map i'll be really disappointed. Is it really so hard to layer one map over another?

All this speaking about Archaon, are there some good written Chaos characters both in Fantasy and 40K?
Someone that's not a total edgelord or has some actually interesting motives?

>>172533007
I would hope that "long campaign" victory conditions instead become "old world" and "new world" victory conditions, with "epic campaign" victory conditions telling you what to do to beat both campaigns as a single race

>people saying kroak will be a legendary lord
I don't get this. The guy's basically fucking dead, and his only purpose is to be a mobile nuke.

>>172536252
my original character

>>172535543

Way more fun to do that as beastmen

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>>172536252
How about a chap that after a night of drunken gloating was forced to leave his life behind and goes around on a magical, teleporting boat to slay champions for his life span.

>>172536238
I wish it wasn't so dead, BB2 is pretty fun desu.

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>>172535110
>daddy is Chaos
>raped mum
>wedlock orphan that ended up as Sigmarite
>i can feel the warp overtaking me
>goes to Aldorf
>kneels in front of Sigmar statue
>p-pls talk to me, im becoming EVUL
>WHY DONT YOU TALK TO ME
>I HATE YOU
>I HATE EVERYTHING
>I WILL DESTROY THE WOOORLD

>>172536252
Sigvald? I think he just wants to be fabulous or something.. haven't used him ever.

>>172536252
While they're not necessarily about a chaos character, you might like the Eisenhorn novels by Dan Abnett. Thwyre about an inquisitor in 40k, so there is some exploration of chaos and its uses.

>>172536252
I like Wulfrik and Egil, but i think you'd be hard pressed to find a character that's not a little bit edgy.

>>172536603
Talon of Horus by Aaron Dembski-Bowden is the best at explaining Chaos.

>>172535387
>secure reikland
>sit in ambush outside helmgart
>next turn poopoopeepees show up thinking they are safe
>brokk ironpick btfos gobbos

this campaign is going very well

Are we getting old friend info tomorrow?

>>172536252
Maybe a Waifu.

Basically hot as fuck and deadly as fuck. Slaanesh greater daemon wants her as a sex slave. Kills the fucker and mounts his face on her shield because "fuck you".

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>>172536252
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Luther

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Fabius_Bile


Also speaking of 40k...i think some dude here read at least some of them. Isnt Dan Abnett a decent writer?

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>>172536743
>turn 20
>beastmemes exist and still haven't shown up yet

>>172536890
I read a decent share of Abnett's books, and I really enjoyed them. But that was like 4-6 years ago, so I'd have to reread them to make sure that I didn't have shit taste back then.

>>172536252
Ariel the Eternal Queen is pretty relaxed

TIKTAQ'TO, MASTER OF THE SKIES isn't that edgy

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>>172536838

>>172536890
Abnett is ok but he dropped the ball recently. His series from 2+ years ago are good like Gaunt's Ghosts and Eisenhorn.

>>172537267
How good are Horus Heresy novels then?

>>172537438
Some are great. Some are good. Some are ok. Some are meh. Some are bad.

>>172537267
>read the first book in the new inquisitor series
>can't enjoy it at all
Did the same thing happen to Ghosts? I remember ended the series with that siege story in the spooky ghost fort.

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>>172537579
Aight, thanks laddie. Here, have an aggravated assault.

>>172537438
real mix but if you like a particular legion then the novewl about them is worth a read. The best I've read are

A Thousand Sons
Prospero Burns
Master of Mankind
Mark of Calth
The Beast Arises
Rise of the Primarchs

>>172537753
Beast Arises is post heresy fyi.

I wish warhammer fantasy was Noblebright instead of Grimdark

>>172536252
Go to the /tg board
Search the catalog for /hhg i.e. Horus heresy general
Ask your question there and you will learn everything in 5 minutes, we are th real autists

>>172537948
Ignoring End Times, it wasn't really that grimdark.

>>172536743
>think skarsnik has been removed
>it turns out that karak norn and skarsnik have switched cities, w/ skarsnik in control of the southern 2 settlements

truly cunning

>>172525370
>>172525370
So is Ancient Empires finally finished?

>>172538215
lol

>>172538037
>grimdark
>skaven stealing everyone
>beastmen raping everyone
>WoC killing everyone
>dark elves stealing everyone more
>suddenly daemons
>suddenly greenskins
>not grimdark
Wee lad

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>>172538215

>>172537948
IN THE NOBLE BRIGHTNESS OF THE 41ST MILLENIUM, THERE IS ONLY LOVE

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>>172538215
WILL NEVER BE FINISHED

>>172538215
M8 I haven't been to this General since the Christmas sale and even I know it's not happening

>>172525853
Where are the Chaos Dwarves going to be?

>>172538215
Releases the day after bonerlord.

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One of my classes was cancelled, so a quickie update here!

We took Brest yesterday while it was held by rebels, and after repairing and retraining everyone I'm sending this lad here to start pushing the Bretons out of Brittany.

In the South, I have a full stack of infantry moving toward Avignon to starve it out. Godspeed, lads.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC-uATAqSo8

>>172538460
>Quimper

Always makes me laugh.

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>that feel when you will never have alt history TW games
>>172538292
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Dance_Steps_For_GWs_Space_Hulk_Game

>>172538245
You realize there's centuries of more or less peace between the big events you're alluding to, right? Unless you're a Bret peasant or Kislevite, live is more or less fine in the Warhammer world most of the time.

>>172538623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwWh1xy6gvU
Easter egg soundtracks when

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ABSOLUTELY

FUCKING

BASED

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>>172538215
October 2016

>>172538227
>>172538252
>>172538327
>>172538367
I didnt attend this general for months please tell me you are joking

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>>172525370
>New World Expansion Soon
>https://comingsoon.totalwar.com/

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How can undead even compete?

>>172539529
NOW THE TRAITS ARE ANNOUNCED WITH A WINDOWS? SINCE WHEN? great!

Elect the best /twg/ girl. From history to fantasy, anything is fine she just has to be a character form a total war game, so no a best elf yet

>>172540003
by raising a doomstack in that province next turn via raise dead, supplemented by the exact same regiments of renown you just killed

>>172540069
its been that way since release

>>172539982
they're going to announce what we already know, maybe a cool teaser trailer, and give us a release date at least 3 months from now with mayb some earlier free new lord.

or they'll disappoint everyone with the crap they usually pull

>>172540170
Empire battle advisor