/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #42

First for 2Bx60

>>172430334
[end of yorha plays in the background]

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So I just found out that you can use Overclock with hacking.

Nifty.

Third for we are alive

Is Emil still gay in Automata

What are the odds one of the apologetic machine doors will have a recreation of Nier's village including a grave to Yonah?

>>172430434
Does it matter?

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9S model rip when?
I need it.

Is the Engine sword a FF15 reference?

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>160kg
>androids not designed for coitus with humans because cow girl position would break pelvis
why Mr. Taro

>>172430720
yes

>>172430720
no

>>172430795
I mean assuming what you're laying on can support 4-500lbs you should be fine as long as she doesn't settle her weight onto you.

>>172430795
You can still missionary/doggystyle anon.

>>172430720
maybe

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Maybe next time we don't wait so fucking long to make a thread.....poor OP that made that duplicate.....

>>172430795
>implying cowgirl is the only position
With butts like this you know what the were made for.

>>172430795
I'd happily die by having 2B's titanic ass smother and slowly press down upon my face, crushing it into paste just for that experience.

>>172430795
It would, until (s)he slips and lands on top of you all at once.

>>172430795
>no mating press master race
Plebs. All of you.

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>can have and express emotions
>have red blood
>can cry
>have breasts

So Androids are basically an upgraded version of human?

>>172430889
coitus is a rough and vigorous activity
>>172430905
>>172431001
but it's the best position

>>172430889
Truly the most dangerous game. My boner hasn't been this hard in years.

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>>172430959
>poor OP that made that duplicate
>implying it wasn't you
ISHYGDDT

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>>172430795
Death by snu snu sounds fine to me

>>172430532
I'm curious what kind of sexual feelings an ancient demented skeleton superweapon has.

Does he look at 9S and think "damn i want that little twink to rub my ball head all over"

>>172430959
Yeah, especially since he used my favorite image to come out of these threads.

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>>172431126
Not him, but I'm the one made the duplicate.

>>172431126
It wasn't me. Serious. I feel bad for duplicate breads that get no (you)'s

>>172430434
No, the head that had all the homolust died of Magic Space AIDS pretty quickly.

>>172431232
I'm sorry I beat you to punch while updating the OP with the OST and doing this at work. You can make the next one, hackerman

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>>172431232
>>172431256
Wtf now I'm sad
Dedicated to you no (you)'s OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu87oGsjkic

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so yeah, factory on C is creepy as fuck

also, what tha hell is that??

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>On C
>Just finished the Village part and gave poor Pascal the sweet release of death that I can't give to myself.

If I shitpost enough will it fill the empty void in my chest guys?

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>>172431232
here's a (You)

>>172431456
Ending E can fill that void

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>>172431456
Sadly no

>>172431369
What a shame. He was a real mvp during penis alien wars, always diving into enemy lines.

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>>172431456
Shoulda just walked away anon.
Pascal goes full Big Boss "Sins of our Father" if you do

>>172430434
>>172430434

Yes and no.

Yes in the sense that there's no reason he would've turned straight or bi or whatever.

No in the sense that he probably doesn't really have a sexual part of his mind anymore. He was only a kid when the transformation first happened, and now he's been without a normal body/without testicles for thousands and thousands of years.

Chances are after first transforming he was sad that he'd never be able to bone anybody (no pun intended), but at this point, after this long... he probably hasn't even thought about it in 5,000 years.

If there was still a sexual part of him 9S would've definitely had an effect on it, anyway.

>>172431092
woah...

it's... it's almost like the game is trying to say something about how stupid human stuggle is by comparison to using android's more logical thought processes!

>>172430795
>implying she cant just pick you up so you can do her spiderman style

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>>172431414
IT WASN'T ME!

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>>172431864
>Spiderman style.

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2B and 9S ARE FOR HAND HOLDING!

>>172431427
>power is down
>casually run through the area
>get crushed by the erratic press that's still on

wtf 9S!?

>>172432205
>9S plays with himself.

>>172431090
>mating press
Who's on top

Let's talk about Drakengard 2

Link to English version of the OST? I cannae be bothered to re-name everything.

Also, is there no This Cannot Continue/Become As Gods on it?

>>172432718
I got my ass kicked by Caim/Angelus repeatedly so I stop playing

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>>172432239
He only cared about his waifu getting out of the factory and not the crushing machines.

>>172432718
Shit game.
Not worth talking about.

>>172432718
That water temple guardian girl is a cutie. Lost her charm my ass

>>172432718
It's the only game in the series I still haven't played. I think I'm going to do it just for completion's sake, I don't like being a secondary even if the part I'm missing is the shittiest one.

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Did you guys like my game?

>>172432859
I do like how every time I read "20+ something that doesn't take care of herself with bags under her eyes" they're trying to sell me that she's unappealing and then proceed to fail utterly at depicting anything but a depressed qt 3.14.

>>172432347
Kaine.

>>172432978
Eat shit Nowe, nobody wants you here.

>>172432978
I still haven't completed your game because I had to take a break after beating it once and my break is still continuing after 2 months.

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>>172432859
She and Arioch are pretty cute desu

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Over the past week I've visited plenty of places on the net that have been analyzing themes and interpreting the story in various ways. I completely understand multiple parts of this experience are open to interpretation via many points of view, but some people just outright invent events in the game that simply weren't there.

This general has been a lot more logical and insightful than any blog or publication I've read so far.

The worst one has probably been Kotku. Yeah, I know reading that spludge in the first place is a bad idea, but a gaming experience like Automata comes very rarely nowadays and I was curious what everybody had to say about it.

This fag of a Kotku author makes the argument that Pascal was "the most human" character in Automata because he was kind, understanding and seeking prosperity via cooperation and friendship. I find the fact that he dismissed all the negative human behaviors outright that other character exhibit. Like violence, betrayal, warmongering and other acts of depravity aren't inherent human nature.

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Whats the point in preserving humanities data if there are no humans left? For what purpose? In Soma happens something similar but at least there are some "functioning humans" with consciousness left.

>>172433487
Historical data I suppose.

>>172433370
It doesn't surprise me that a neo-liberal regressive doesn't want to admit that the "negative" aspects of humanity are part of the human experience. They probably think hunter-gatherer societies are these pure Eden-esque utopias where everyone lives in harmony with each other and nature.

>>172432347
Commander mating pressing my dick.

>>172433487
That's what the Androids were programmed to do.

>>172433487
It literally is a "just in case" scenario. Maybe they'll achieve technology when they can use that data to reverse engineer humanity, who knows

>>172433643
>Ywn get pressed into mating with the Commander.

>>172433370
>I find the fact that he dismissed all the negative human behaviors outright that other character exhibit. Like violence, betrayal, warmongering and other acts of depravity aren't inherent human nature.

So in essence, he didn't GET nier automata at all.

>>172433487
Did you even play SOMA? That whole game is about HOPE, similar to the ending of Automata.

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Does the grab smash instakill attack from this thing always glitch out and look like shit?

Because it worked fucking cool in the trailer, but i never seen it actually work right in the game.

>>172433890
Meanwhile, if 9S chooses to leave with the ark and then ending E happens we get the SOMA ending.

>>172433643
>170 kg of Commander pinning you down while she bob her hips up and down.
Im not into femdom, but I have to admit that this sounds great.
>>172433487
Androids are programmed to protect humans, of course they'll protect humanity's last datas.

>>172433906
Never noticed anything wrong with it so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>172433890
Except the SOMA protagonist is a fucking dummy. He was surprised when his consciousness remained instead of getting copied over to the ship at the end of the game even though he experienced his consciousness getting copied already once before. I'd probably appreciate that game more if not for that and some of the horror aspects being rather weak.

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lol

Drakengard 1 OST just reminds me constantly of video's skipping and repeating audio

>>172433890
Yes I did. That's why I said "functioning" humans. We have both protagonists consciousness, they talk, they feel, etc. In Automata we have no humans, no nothing.

>>172434564
they also have the human genome you big dumb dumb

>>172433487
if they have the full human genome data they could clone it into an actual human being and go from there

its also a little bit like evangelion i think, ea "this is the proof humanity existed"

someone explain to me why there were so many little brother robots with buckets on their heads

>>172430720
I don't know

>>172434834
That's a callback to the beginning of route B where 9S observes a machine trying to give life to another robot by pouring buckets of oil over him.

I imagine there were so many of them at the encounter inside the reclamation facility because the machine network copied this kind of behavior over several times.

>>172434285
>It's NieR Automata but every time something bad happens the game speeds up.

>>172434564
The androids in automata talk, feel, etc. They're essentially humans. They could easily just become the new humans and try and live normal lives.

But that's impossible because they can't see themselves as the successors to humanity, because they're programmed to see humanity as literal gods. Which seems to be the only programming that actually effects how they think and feel.

The programming doesn't stop them from doubting authority, it doesn't stop them from figuring out when they've been lied to,it doesn't force them to love their jobs or even stop them from deserting.

But they all think humans are the shit, even 9S does when he finds out it was all a lie

>>172433906
It had a grab attack?

I sort of wonder if Commander knew about all the E model deployments and S9 being farmed by 2b.

She gives S9 data on humanity relatively freely, has reservations on E models (letter to jackass) and was used by illuminati as a whole.
There has to be some shit that went over her.

>>172431642
Does he? I wiped him. Is there a video?

>>172435295
The video finishes in 10 seconds.

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The fuck was this?

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>>172435678
She was worried about E-types.

>>172435746
It's a stylish and nifty interlude like in a stage play introducing the idea that the perspective of the action will be switched. Also tells you that the Pods actively exchange data with one another.

>>172435746
Pods are exchanging data, please watch warmly.

>>172435746
are you dense

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>>172435746
Flirting.

>>172435924
What triggers it? I'm on route B and like 26 hours in.

>>172435958
I'm just confused why I never saw this in my first play through.

>>172435746
Do you think they fugged?
Had oily pod sex at the end?

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>>172436021
Welcome to DrakeNier.

I've hit the desert housing Route B, why can't I hack open those locked chests?

>>172436021
Because you are on the route B you dumb fuck.
It wouldn't be fun if all you got was same content. What would even be the point?

>>172436165
You're saying the prompt to hack them is just crossed out when you play 9S? If that's the case you are bugged, my dude.

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>>172436071
The pods had sex by holding hands.

>>172436269
Never mind, they're working now for some reason.

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>>172436314

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Would you heal Toobies boo boo?

>>172436557
You usually can't open shit or hack chests when a line of dialogue is going on.

>>172436187
The new character with new moves and abilities would be enough for me, but I'm one of those fags who plays games for their gameplay.

>>172435678
She definitely knew about 9S being killed by 2B and that 2B=2E, but given the degree to which android illuminati used her I was actually surprised that she knew the truth about humanity and presumably always had. Her telling it to 9S didn't really bother me much though, as she knew she was about to die so fuck it why not

>>172433906
I've never seen it work wrong. Dunno what to tell you m8

If you're playing on PC and with unlocked framerate it's possible that causes some animation issues as that feature of FAR is brand new, but if you're on consoles idk

>>172435678
Commander was the one that told 2B she would be using the name 2B for this mission instead of 2E. After the desert boss as A2 in hacking space you hear a woman say "Normally you'd be called ... but... calling you 2B for the time". Pod 042 says it's a fragment of 2B's memories and is an order received from the YoRHa commander.

>>172435752
She was probably just concerned on the success of the project and worried about how it would effect the other members.

>>172436636
cum

I think theres like a plothole in one of the side quest about 11D
In the sidequest 16D ask us to retrieve a memento for 11D but cant androids download their memory to a new unit? why cant they give 11D a new body? im guessing its something to do about the black box but i dunno

>>172436795
because the Bunker is shady as shit, and no doubt they're factory resetting and memory wiping all over the place

>>172436795
Because 11B deserted and took herself off the network, read the archive you get from her weapon.

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Goodbye bunker.

>>172436919
oh i see havent check it yet thanks

>>172436720
Doesn't mean you can't have a story goin on too. It's not like Route B having story changes is a bad thing

now get the fuck out of here before you get spoiled. Here's a good rule of thumb going forward: if something like that happens that confuses you, or doesn't make sense, don't ask about it because you haven't beaten the game. It'll probably be explained by the time you beat the game.

see you after ending E matey

>>172430720
Can you repeat the question?

>>172435678
>>172436765
Video link: https://youtu.be/2l32tAKaPgo?t=17m24s

Commander basically says observe 9S and kill him if necessary. Kind of amusing that 9S never gets the opportunity to tell 2B about what he found on the server and about humans. If he did should would have needed to kill him again in the game.

>>172430889
Its not as bad as it sounds just don't be an idiot and try to move your hips at any point outside of the perfectly flat position though i'd imagine androids would have better control over their own movements.

>>172436795
Because she deserted so they weren't about to let her get re-genned. Also they talk about storing their memories on their swords, but that's not a full back-up like a black box. If an android gets destroyed you can't bring them back to life using what's stored on their sword. It's more like a diary than a backup

>>172432305
UNDERRATED

>>172436920
Oh shit nigger, what did you do?

>>172437945
Probably some stupid CE warp.

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>>172437945
Glitched the fuck out!

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Bros I can't get over how cute A2 is with glasses. Has anyone modded in a way to stack different headgear? I NEED glasses + long hair.

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>post yfw ywn hold an android in your arms and thank them for fighting so hard all this time,

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>>172438264

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Can we talk WW2 references? There seem to be a lot in Nier: Automata.
>Pearl Harbor descent is in 11942 (1942)
>9S first awakes in 11942 (1942)
>Battle of Guadalcanal in 11942 (1942)
>Normandy Descent Mission in 11944 (1944)
>The mission in Route C to retake the city is called "Berlin 046"
>YoRHa heavy armour look like Wehrmacht helmets
>Nietzsche was popular with the Nazis
>The machines have a ton of communist references to them, like the Goliaths being called Marx and Engels
And so on...

There's plenty of WW2 stuff in the game, I'd love to know what else there is and what people think of it.

How many lithographs are there? I've found four of them.

>>172438448
>No battle off Samar reference
fugadug

Does upgrading the system chips yield any benefits?
Can they get smaller or any better?

>>172437945
The bunkers walkway is a 2D field tied to the camera.
If you disable that shit or force freelook on PCs you break the bunker.

>>172438404
>live footage of Marina Kawano singing Weight of the World

>>172438448
>YoRHa heavy armour look like Wehrmacht helmets
That whole thing is probably an enormous reference to Jin-Roh

>>172438493
27.

>>172438448
The Marx and Engels names mainly go along with the theme of philosophers that contributed to existentialism and socialism. In fact, all the major machine characters are named after them.

If you're a bit more familiar with the writings of these particular people you can make connections to how it ties together to certain events of both the main quest and subquests.

>>172438589
They get larger, but it's easier than farming for better ones. If you find a perfect one and upgrade it, the upgraded chip tends to be of lower memory cost than others of its class.

>>172438589
>ywn have a 21 slot 8 diamond OS chip to function at peak sentience
Why live?

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>>172438264

>If you die in route C you no longer re-spawn in the nearest access point but out right have to load a file
It makes sense, but still mad, lost 1-2 hours of grinding

>>172438745
Yeah, while I'm certainly not a huge expert on those writers, I do know enough about them to understand their relation to the game superficially. I just mean, given the obvious Nazi/Axis parallels to the YoRHa group/actions, there may be more to the fact that their adversaries have a relation to communists.

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>>172438264

>>172436021
>I'm just confused why I never saw this in my first play through.
you see that in the 3rd one

>>172432205
2B can hold my hand, if you catch my drift

https://youtu.be/mIuB8f8YIds?t=450

>>172439182
Friendly reminder that tutorial NPC has bigass prompt above her head starting C and she tells you in CAPS that you have to save.

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>>172439182
I'm glad I got into the habit of constantly saving during route A/B. Otherwise I'd be in the same situation as you.

>>172439393
>tutorial NPC
Which one

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Check out my sweet ride, /ndg/

>>172439440
I mean, Im overlvled as fuck I died to one of the faulty press in the factory

>>172439514
Not hacking a HorseyBot and waiting till permanently Dress Moduled 2B rides you.

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>>172439514
Step it up fag

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>>172438264

>>172439663
Stop hurting your robo-horsey. You'll drive robo-Nietzsche to despair.

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Is YoRha Betrayers - the hardest boss fight in the entire game?

>>172439773
No they're pretty easy once you learn not to suck at melee combat.

>>172439764
>asking A2 to stop hurting robots
Robot detected, pod, open fire.

>>172439574
Same here. Was grinding for weapon upgrades for about 6 hours and ended up being roughly ten levels higher than mainline progression.

It wasn't worth it since I could BUY everything after ending C

>>172439834
The rest of the game seems easier than this to me.

>>172439773
No, but 50 YoRHas are.

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>>172439868
>tfw I've automatically associate robots with /r9k/ since 2009

Has this site ruined me?

>>172440024
Nah, don't worry, you were always trash considering your board choices.

>>172439773
it looks like cause is the 1st fight where enemies dont telegraph their attacks.

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>>172438264

>>172440145
You'll have to take my word for it that I've never gone to /r9k/ other than to glance at it to see what it looked like. I learned the robot connotation on /tg/ when I first started going to this site back in 2009.

To this day I still have no clue how the concept of what /r9k/ was supposed to be (the first attempt to re-capture the creative spontaneity of /b/ by eliminating forced memes and copypastas), turned into, well that.

Why do androids bleed? Are they organic?

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>>172440458
I prefer this one
>>172440568
Yes and maybe.

Fuck you taro. Give me my smile back.

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>>172438264

>>172440568
Yes.

Not entirely, no. They taste like oil and have fusion reactors inside them, at least YoRHas.

You get to see their corpses pretty often in the game.

They are basically a mix of biological outer layer + machine core. And probably nanomachines to make them tick.

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>>172440683

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>>172440683
take this

>>172440568
Who knows. We know they got metal bits for some internals but maybe they got a basic vascular system to keep the synthflesh working.

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>>172440568
Nines seed tastes like oil.

So when the Gestalt Program fell apart, did Emil have to watch Kaine, Nier, and Yonah all slowly succumb to the Black Scrawl? Hell, the thought of Nier having to watch Yonah die of the Black Scrawl despite everything he did (or rather because of what he did), then dying in the same way his mother (or wife) did makes me feel really heavy.

>>172430632
me too, but I dunno how to extract

>>172439773
Use impact bracers

>>172440458
>file name isn't "BECOME AS GODS"

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>>172438264

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>wanted to see 9s's smile
>pick stay like i did on ps4, skips the cutscene
>go back and pick go, skips cutscene
pc please

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what does it say

Know what would've been a likely and grim enough safety protocol for Gestalt? Having it where, in the event the Shadowlord fell, the whole of humanity would've been bound to something akin to the process used on the grimoires.

>>172441534
I don't know if he made it back in time. He was rolling around as a head for a long time.

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>>172442410

>>172440568
>Why do androids bleed?
Blood is simply a method of delivering nutrients/oxygen and such to various parts of the body, so the androids may also need a similar delivery system. Don't know enough about how they work to be sure though

>Are they organic?
They're obviously made to imitate humans. Whether that means they have muscle fibers and other "organic" components is unknown, but then you'd have to decide whether or not that makes "alive," even though they were assembled rather than born

basically, you're teetering on the edge of a fucking deep hole of philosophy

>>172441534
Also Nier doesn't exist anymore, he sees no consequences.

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>>172442671
>>172442410

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>>172442410
>>172442671
>>172442847

>>172442673
I thank all of those violent machines for skinning a lot of androids during the story. We can learn some information about them from the way how their corpses look.

>>172442427
Not possible.
That shit only worked cause it was childrens souls, extreme emotional trauma powering the magic, and pre-prepped experimental books.

You MIGHT have preserved all of the kids assumming they all agreed to Friday Night Knife Fight down at Hamelin Bowl CVIII but remember that yielded 10 INSANE books, 1 prick, and 1 weiss and they require a sort of pactmate.

>>172443223
>That shit only worked cause it was childrens souls

I never said it would work properly.

>>172442714
Ending E from the novella brought him back because Kaine pulled out a 16 year old back from the that Tree in the Forest of Dreams. Of course that meant they couldn't use the backup data to recreate the Shadowlord.

>>172430375
>0

>>172440568
Could just be that YoRHa's lubricant fluids are red, they very evidently run off of electricity, not chemical energy of any sort. My guess would be that it just saturates their joints, and muscle fibers to keep them from wearing out, and could also be circulated (as blood is) to help dump heat away from vital systems. Highly unlikely that it's actual blood.

>>172443305
The point was something about them being CHILDREN'S souls is a key component for it even working. It implies adult souls just don't work and you get a room of corpses and bloody equally useless books.

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>>172438264

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https://twitter.com/acosmos/status/847137899791437824 Disgusting thread trying to co-opt Taro into retarded progressive values.

Bitch defeats her own point as Taro himself states that Emil is gay just because that's what he is and there wasn't any special fucking meaning behind it.

>>172444351
Not even gonna read this shit
>"those people" continue to be moronic zealots
>Japan continues to be based
>world turns
>the West burns

>>172444351
>muh boogeyman

>>172443746
Yeah, but I'm not talking about books. And there already are no bodies.

Look, the thing I'm proposing is less "saving humanity" and more "well, that's fucked up". Imagine if you had the depressed ghosts of an entire species ghost-trapped onto a server.

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>ywn play a Silent Hill game directed by Yoko Taro

>>172444351
I mean, I don't really see any co-opting. She posted an interview with very little commentary.

Emil's homosexuality is progressive, like it or not, especially for a Japanese game made in 2010.

It's progressive in the right way, because he's just a person who happens to be gay, instead of bioware-style in your face nonsense. There wasn't any special meaning to Emil being gay, but it is normalizing homosexuality, which given the context can be seen as progressive.

Just not the type of obnoxious SJW shit that the word "progressive" immediately makes one think of

>>172444351
Hell, the only reason we know he's gay is because of an excerpt from his diary in Grimoire Nier, right? If someone's whole character is defined by their sexuality, then that's a pretty damn shallow character.

>>172444671
Oh. Well without bodies to latch onto the souls go feral and die.
No body no soul no soul no body. No shadowlord no gestalts.

You could store the souls on servers but so long as shadowlord dies or replicants don't exist they're doomed.
Books only worked through some special fuckery and even then it had something like an 8% success rate and a 92% failure rate and they still required something else with a soul to make a sort of pact with.

You could fuse your soul with a dildo and unless a relatively functioning human existed to pact with you would just sit there doing jackshit including being sentient.

>>172445039
Was Grimoire Weiss able to pact with Replicant Nier because the latter did have a soul, at least through his Gestalt?

>english track list
>Weight of the World Kowaretasekainouta

this is not any english I know

>>172445220
Yes.
Weiss would have died after everything as well.
Shadowlord was basically the keystone for everything and even then it was ultimately doomed.

is there any way to improve bare hands damage?
I love the moveset but I feel so much weaker when using them

>>172445346
Crit build I suppose.
With normal weapons crit chips is a blatant cheating tool.

So I just started route C as 9S

Do I switch over to A2 at some point or do I finish the whole route as 9S and have to play it over again as A2?

>>172445279
TL: Broken World's Song, Song of a Broken World, something to that effect.

>>172445279
A LOT of tracks sing in Angelic.

>>172445445
u play gam

>>172445445
play the game

>>172440910
that made my day anon, thank you

>>172445484
>>172445548
nooooooo

Why would I do that

>>172445445
its split between both of them, you'll get a few more prompts to choose between A2 or 9S every now and then

>>172440775
I'm still more than a little upset there wasn't a cat ears accessory

is there any way to extract the voice lines from the pc version?

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>route C opening

holy fucking shit, i didn't think we'd go from 0 to 60 that quick

>>172444854
No, he has an implied crush on Nier. More age appropriate gross with brother nier, but the dialogue is there either way. Just a few little things he says during the façade wedding imply that he's into Nier.

>>172445445
play the fucking game, you'll get to be both of them

and stay away from here till you get ending e

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>>172445956
Now leave the thread until you've done it.
All the real shit is ahead of you.

>>172431578
>RRRRAAAAH LIQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

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>end screen didn't include e
oh

>>172445039
>You could store the souls on servers but so long as shadowlord dies or replicants don't exist they're doomed.

There is no rule that you need replicants for gestalts. Just bodies. But what I'm talking about is more the "doom" thing. Because it's not that the gestalts wouldn't all fade. It's that they'd not be allowed to. They wouldn't be allowed to do anything. They'd be swallowed up and sorted. Trapped. Locked away. Archived.

Is there a release of the Nier OST out that is MP3's? I wanna be able to put it on my phone

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>>172446012
>More age appropriate gross with brother nier

Maybe he wants to be drawn into the warm hairy embrace of Papa Nier? In all seriousness though, I actually like how it's done with Emil. It is pretty clear it's a crush, which would make sense given Emil's age.

But on the topic of Papa Nier. Are we sure he isn't actually a caveman? Brother Nier probably takes from his mother's side.

>>172446560
Dunno what your point is but you can definitely get an E on your ending tracker.

whats the max + you can get out of Chips?? 8?

>>172446684
yeah but that only happens if you don't donate your files
i mean who does that right

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>>172446646

>>172446646
"Come here. I was just working out so i'm a bit sweaty. Thats the smell of your, Daddy."
And now both of us have ruined my rosetinted view of Eureka Seven.

>>172446857
What is this referencing? I keep seeing it.

>>172446783
As though you can't get it on a second go around after donating files.

Unless you think you need to donate your files every time you finish a run in any capacity, in which case why do you still have a save file at all? Hurry up and donate it, faggot.

>>172446728
6

This is going to sound really fucking gay, but when I gave up and connected to the network, the flood of encouraging messages warmed my heart.

In return, once I 100% this game, I will give it all up and help others.

>>172446857
It was just one of those "draw your characters in these poses" kind of thing.

>>172446992
ss during the deletions ;)

>>172447098
i'm fairly certain +7 exists

>>172447098
You can fuse them higher than 6 at the machine chip shop down in the valley.

>>172447119
k let's see an ss of your files as they are now ;)

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>>172447176
I actually have a +8 but the guy that let me fuse em, stops at +8 so I guess that is the cap then

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Why are all the weapon stories so depressing?

>>172447220
>down in the valley
You mean down in the canyon or?

>>172447407
baby's first taro game

>>172447220
o-oh

>>172446890
Google monopoly squad meme

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>>172447241
sent
don't delete me okay

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>>172447557
This has answered zero questions and only raised more

>>172447672
Anon

Anon I see file slots that aren't blank.

Anon how could you be so selfish?

>>172442410
<Umm...>
<There, there>

2B...
I'm extremely happy about this situation but...

I'm... a male model android you know.

...I know.

!!?

>>172442671
I think the "What Are You Doing?^‿^" trophy was actually something 9S said.

Come on 2B.
It's maintenance time.

Ni...9S...
You're giving me that creepy gaze again!!!

2B hurry along to your room.
And leave the rest up to me.

I'm going to kill everyone...

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>>172438264

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How the FUCK am I supposed to beat this bitch.

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What the fuck is the problem with Hard mode?

I started a new game in hard mode and everything can one shot your ass, this is retarded.

>>172448326
defense and/or health chips
heal every time you get hit, have so much money that healing items are trivially expensive

Hard mode isn't hard, it's just tedious because you have to heal every time you get hit (unless you're not running the right chips, in which case yes, it's basically very hard mode)

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>>172448326

Started the game on Normal, switched to hard after the opening so I could, ya know, save.

>>172448290
when you see the sword, hold square and lock on the sword, destroy em and dodge the rest

other than attack you should be able to deal with the rest

>>172448441
I was trying to go with a heavy attack focused build as I did before but the game literally tells you "NOPE YOU CAN'T" Aand force to stack defense trash.

>>172448290
You need to learn how to dodge everything, also make sure to stay close to her so your attacks actually hit

>>172446589

nvm found it

>>172448326
Had mode is actually a lot of fun if you don't start with it on. I played through in hard mode the first time.

Play the prologue on normal at least. Switch to hard even after the prologue or after you get some chips.

Hard more really requires max hp+ and defense chips. Normal mode is easily beatable even if you never use a chip. Hard mode demands you use chips and your builds are actually important.

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>nier is $50 on amazon

>>172448686
Hard Mode or higher Prologue is bullshit.

>>172448637
The more you level the less defense chips you need. By the time I route B in hard mode I only had ~20-30 slots worth of defense/HP chips and the rest was offensive

>>172448686
I'm half way through Route A, fighting the singer bitch and is fucking awful.

>>172448637 This is what I was trying.

>>172448326
I feel the same way. Normal was too easy for me but hard is a little tedious.

>>172448778
did you read my post, buttboy? I said in the post you're replying to not to play the prologue on hard

>>172448831
Seems like I need to spam some mobs and shit until I get to route B and use the bunny to get exp.

>>172448949
He was echoing your sentiment as a sign of agreement and solidarity.

Autist.

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>>172434267
>there are still retards that didn't process the blimp conversation
I swear to god, there's at least fifty of you in every SOMA thread.

>>172448326
I played hard mode (prologue normal) for my first playthrough and overall felt it was the best difficulty, some parts were frustrating but nothing was too crazy, and overall I preferred it to the boring lack of difficulty in normal mode.

However, I think there should be a difficulty in between Normal and Hard... called hard. Call Hard "very hard." And Very Hard mode should be renamed to something like "2B must die," give it a meme name to make it clear that it's a meme difficulty mode.

Dying in a single hit regardless of the attack like you do on very hard is a weird gimmick that should have a gimmicky name, don't just call it "very hard'

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>>172448949
Hold your horses buddy, I was agreein' with ya.

>>172448686
>tfw now I'm lvl99 and can't go back down

>>172448860
>I'm half way through Route A, fighting the singer bitch and is fucking awful.
I'm an old platinum fan and i rekt the singer on the first try on hard.
If you're uncomfortable then actually play on normal unless you start feeling like it's getting too easy towards the end of the game.

>>172448860
What lvl are you just out of curiosity? I beat the singer bitch on Hard first time through as well, I was either level 11 or 12. But yeah, it was really rough. But keep plugging away at it; you're probably getting closer than you think. It's one of those bosses where getting the health down a certain amount triggers different phases/scenes that progress the fight. Her health bar won't be going down that slowly the whole time.

>>172448989
Or just play normal if you're not having fun. I never grinded on hard mode, or at least I don't feel like I did. Finished route A at level 30.

>>172449026
I'm sorreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

but yeah it's dumb. imo the game should ask you to choose your difficulty mode after beating the prologue, not before

>>172449220
I really liked the feeling of power progression that hard mode gives you; near the end of the game things were getting sort of easy even on hard but I didn't mind it, it felt really good, like I'd earned it.

But yeah, once I beat the game and before I sacrificed my save, I was bummed that I couldn't lower my own level somehow. I mean I can just spawn level 80 stubbies in the debug room I guess but it's not the same

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>>172438264
>ywn meet a human to add meaning to your life

Why A2 kill babu?

>>172449212
Agree completely. Platinum games normally HAVE 5 difficulty levels, with a regular difficulty range between the bottom four and then the top difficulty being their "special properties" mastery difficulty. Why the fuck they didn't do that here I have no idea.

The mastery difficulty of this game is also pretty fucking unfun in general compared to something like infinite climax mode in Bayonetta which actually changed the properties of the game in an interesting way. The mastery difficulty in this game is just "lol shmups guys am I rite"

>>172449219
>>172449219
>>172449219

HOLY SHIT
I JUST REWATCHED IT
TOOBIE'S HAND DID THIS
IT WASNT A2

>>172449459
Level 14 but with a offensive build, little chips of defense, mostly shiled and autohealing per damage done.

Now tested again with full defensive build and beated her easily but is tedious as hell.

>>172449694
Dirty machine.

>>172449694
Kill all machines, no exceptions

>>172449694
gotta kill muh musheens

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What was his endgame?

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NEVER
GIVE
UP

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>>172449891
>>172449939
>>172450013

>>172449891
>>172449939
>>172450013
But why'd she sneak into the castle alongside 9S and 2B (the machines were doing stuff like holding planning meetings in other rooms so she was clearly not tearing her way through the place before them) only to kill that one useless machine in particular? Feels so random and arbitrary.

Much like A2 as a character in general. Feels like they just threw in a third character last minute for the hell of it.

>>172450058
He went to travel the world. He wasn't running a con and he didn't have an endgame; neither did he pretend to. He was a dickhead but that's it.

>>172450179
Yup, it's a pretty flaccid moment when viewed in retrospect.

>>172448774
It's on weekend sale on PA and even cheaper on VGP. Learn to shop online fampai

>>172450179
A2 was probably following them, figured they wouldn't have it in them to kill a babby, so she made shish kebab.

Nobody knows, let's ask Taro.

>>172450083
I felt like I'm playing supermecha game and I liked it.

Was Ernst one of the hilariously sad figures in the game? He made a kingdom and was loved by his subjects and he gave everything to them to the point where it took his own life. Then they backed up his data to another body that couldn't even speak or move and he spent over a hundred years looking and listening to how dumb his former subjects are, until they all get massacred for nothing and he dies without being able to defend himself.

>>172450341
The only other moment that made me go "wut" like that one was the children committing suicide. I saw it coming a mile away when the game suddenly makes you control Pascal and it just felt like a gratuitous cheap tragedy moment. A bit much, even in the context of the rest of the game.

So did 9S really want to **** 2B?

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How did the world ever manage to stay safe before Manah and the Empire went apeshit considering every time he does something it ends up being a complete fuck-up?
How does Caim put up with his shit?

I honestly don't like 9S.

>>172450467
It's a fraction of his data. It's more likely he had the awareness of a kid, which doesn't make the whole thing that much better, but it's definitely not really Ernst any more.

It sure was a cutie, though.

>>172450492
The game giving the player control of Pascal as he ran back to check on the children made what happened next hilariously predictable.
>Gee I wonder if the kids will be okay let's find out oh gosh they're not you sure got me

>>172450643
9edge is a pretty cool guy, eh goes nuclear good and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>172450709
>>172450492
I'm not sure it was supposed to be a big twist. In fact, giving you control over Pascal is what made me think Taro wanted us to see it coming.

Sometimes, it's more about what you fear might happen coming to pass. Seeing an ambulance outside your home (let's assume you don't live alone) might make the outcome obvious, but that doesn't make you feel any less shit when you find out something happened to your sibling/partner/parent.

I knew exactly what was going to happen but it still made me feel sad, Pascal's ensuing breakdown and the choice making it so much worse.

>>172450675
That last line is why you can't even feel sad for him. He just raised a colony of fuckups and paid the price.

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>>172448774
I know the feel.

>>172450589
**** **** ******* ** ****** *

>>172451395
**** *** *** **** *

>>172451238
He did the best with what he had.

>>172451173
That's all well and good but the only reason for Taro to put the ambulance outside your house is because his writing is so predictable that you figured someone would be dead inside anyway and directly telegraphing the upcoming reveal was the only card he had left.

>>172449834
really?
now i kinda feel bad for laughing while he squirmed because i thought he fucking fell on her sword

>>172451798
ow the edge

>>172451798
I laughed as well. Accidentally falling on a sword felt like an appropriate end to the undirected flailing that his life had become.

>>172451798
>>172451947
Wait, I thought the same thing.

>>172450058
a dry dick

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>>172451915

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>>172449834
I rewatched that scene too, Nines used 2B's hand to grab A2's shoulder during the takedown, but it was his own fault he fell on the sword.

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day 3
still no iron pipe

>>172449834
uh, this is wrong though? yeah he pushed A2 using 2b's hand, but he just straight up fell on the sword

>>172451767
I think you missed the point of the example.

Unpredictability is not necessary to make an event feel impactful. Things we already expect coming true can pack just as much of a punch, comedic or tragic. Relying too much on twists can make things feel gimmicky.

Unless you truly measure a writer's cleverness by how many twists he manages to shoehorn into his work, in which case to each their own.

>>172450013
>>172449939
This was the only part of the story that really bothered me, the extreme inconsistency in A2's character. She's slaughtering all machines without mercy, including one that even looks like a fucking baby, but then goes to Pascal's village and after like 10 minutes she's doing quests for them and all "maybe machines aren't so bad."

What bitch? How long have you been on earth at this point? There's no WAY this is the first indication you've seen that maybe they aren't all that bad. Big inconsistency and one of the main reasons that A2 is the weakest character, despite all the fapping over her

>>172435746
Pod 042 is for petting

>>172452652
anon this a strawman-ass post like damn

>>172449834
Dude what? I keep reading shit that makes me want to fire up the game again and I need a break.
I love it.

>>172450589
I think it's mostly Adam just taunting by spewing things he learned from human records (some could've been messageboard trolling, amusingly).
They have the capacity to form relationships, but they don't seem to have biological urges.
He'd probably want to try and end up looking like those bots in the desert complex.

>>172450643
After he went batshit, I had no hesitation on who to pick during the last battle (A2).

>>172452764
2B's memories bleed into her consciousness, it's spelt out to you by Pod 042.

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>>172452764
>>172452981
Well, at that point, she had 2B's memories, but then again, you're given the option to kill Pascal when you first meet him as A2, so...

>>172452154
hey that's pretty good

So I've pretty much missed why Anemone has the reaction she has towards 2B when they first meet. Why is she surprised to see her? Why does she hide it? Why does she make a big deal about her model number?
Is this is just some "toobs yuo are of A2" foreshading? How does she even make the connection if yes?

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>>172450643
LEAVE THIS THREAD NOW!

>>172453091
'cause 2B looks like A2, whom she was buttbuddies with. or something.

>>172453051
Which is already after 2B memories start bleeding into her consciousness.

>>172453091
She looks very similar to A2 her prior model YoRHa. Read the damn YoRHa stage play to learn more about those events.

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>>172453091
2B's model is based heavily on A2 so naturally they resemble each other. She hides it once she realizes she's mistaken and that this 2 is different from the 2 that she knows from Pearl Harbor.

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>>172452154
They should've sent the kill and reset 9S order after the forest kingdom desu

>>172452981
One of the details you're flatout told, but don't remember/apply.
Man, I need to replay the game.

>>172452616
Your art?
Want a hint?

>>172453253
>>172453338
I know about her past with A2 but that doesn't make sense. Does she just make the connection from seeing half of toobie's face? She also doesn't know that the two of them are based on the same personality.