/edg/scg/ Star Citizen Elite: Dangerous general #146

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Multicrew isn't out yet and FD already nerfed it.
Payouts while in multicrew now scale with your rank, so only Elite pilots get 100% of vouchers.

VISION'd again.

>>172355785
How can FDev be this shit?

>>172355751

Is that a fucking challenge???

>>172355785

so.... what happens if the helmsman is less than elite in rank? does he get reduced credits?

and what if your gunner outranks you in combat? does the deadly gunner get less credits than the expert helmsman?

>>172356017
>so.... what happens if the helmsman is less than elite in rank? does he get reduced credits?
yes, but only in multicrew

>and what if your gunner outranks you in combat? does the deadly gunner get less credits than the expert helmsman?
It's entirely based on your personal combat rank

>>172356143

wait what

so they basically put up a tier list for multicrew:

>everyone who's elite gets 100% of vouchers
>everyone who's deadly gets 90%
etc etc? i made up the numbers, but am I interpreting you correctly?

>>172356357
Yeah, Elite is 100%, deadly is something like 60-65%, every other rank scales down from there.

The forum dads are saying it's good because new players won't be able to use multicrew to skip the grind.

The same fucking people who say "The grind is all in your mind" are now saying "If you skip the grind you skip the game." You can't make this shit up.

>>172355905

You bet it is, cunt. Meet me at Hutton Orbital in 20 minutes. Can't make it in time? Pssshhh, nothing astrological kid

>>172356717

>deadly 60-65%

Fucking hell. Elite ranked players are probably better than a full multi crew of mid range players, but then you give said mid ranked players less of a reason to use multi crew? The players who benefit the least performance-wise from multi crew has the biggest incentive to use it...

And all the harmless dads have literally no incentive whatsoever to use it since they'll get fuckall for it.

>The same fucking people who say "The grind is all in your mind" are now saying "If you skip the grind you skip the game." You can't make this shit up.

I'll IMAGINE that this isn't a bad idea and maybe it'll be a good idea!

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Daily reminder

>>172357301
Oh well, another DoA fdev feature.
At least everyone gets 100% bounties if you're in a wing now instead of splitting it.

>>172358459
Don't talk too loud or Braben might hear you.

So uhh trying to spawn my ship and it's saying All pads are full. Any other way I can fly, even if it's tutorial? I just wanna try the damn thing already.

>>172357301

This is FDev's thing.

This is what they do.

They've done the same thing every patch without fail. Even if something sounds cool when pitched they will find a way to make it mediocre or outright useless. Always.

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>>172358852

A-are you lads earning more than a thousand credits per bong?

We can't be having none of that. No sir, that goes against the vision!

*chuckles*

I'll get this sorted....

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My ship you dumb bitch. When will FDev let me blow some of these chucklefuck representatives out of the airlock? I'm even allied with this faction.

wow it doesn't sound like fdev just lazily pulled this shit out of their ass instead of actually putting a moment's thought or effort into it at all ;^)

>>172359585
change server. probably a bug.

>have multicrew roles specifically for mentoring
>mentoring an inexperienced player in multicrew is already taxing and risky
>disincentivize mentoring even further by nerfing helm's rewards if they are under elite

Honestly not even surprised enough at typical Ftroop to be disappointed.

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>>172359731
>>172359851
>>172360350
>>172360542
Why do I still follow this game?

“In response to your request for comment, I can share that CIG and The Escapist have mutually agreed to delete their comments about each other. We wish each other well and look forward to better relations in 2017.”

SMART BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>172360265
I wish there were a list of these greetings somewhere. I was already Elite and had a lot of renown when they were added so I only got to see the reactions where they're either terrified of you or adore you.

>>172360819

I'm an EDtist. Please give me an update. What comments? I love me some Derek Smart autism.

I abused Robigo and AFK turreting with .lua scripts in the past.
Don't even play this game anymore.

>>172361135
https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/62166i/star_citizen_the_money_laundromat_about_defy_media/

inb4 >>>reddit

That post and the last few posts should cover you.

TL;DR the old Escapist hitpieces + CIG's response letter got taken down and Smart got autistically worked up over it.

[How do you intend VOIP integration to work?] The idea is for players to create voice lobbies, switch between them and be able to do that quickly. This is stage one which is within Spectrum.

The next stage is if Spectrum is on and the game is on, you'll hear what people say based off where they are in the game from you that are in that lobby with you.
For Orgs they do want to have a nesting feature to allow for command structure VOIP like Teamspeak has.

How do you think this will work with pirating/bounty hunting?

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Whats the most aesthetic ship in E:D and why is it the Fer De Lance?

>>172362073
You posted it. I just wish the helm's seat was centered.

>>172360780
Because Star Citizen is taking longer than expected.

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>>172362073
Thats not a Midnight Black Cutter.

>>172360819
>We wish each other well and look forward to better relations in 2017.”

In other words Escapist figured out CIG isn't going anywhere and they're missing out on sweet internet clicks by not covering Star Citizen for the last year and a bit. Call me cynical but I reckon Escapist will have a nice puff piece when 3.0 is released.

>>172361330
>has his own subreddit
What a piece of shit.

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>>172362587
Black and Blue is top tier but White and Red is my favorite.

>>172362867
Its actually for shitting on him and archiving the bullshit he says and tries to later backpedal.
Also it pissed him off to no end.

>>172355785
Sounds like a bad attempt to balance/counter people from boosting their rank while in multicrew

>>172365528
That would probably explain it. Because income is proportionate to rank gain isn't it? I feel like that would've already been managed by having income split between crew members.

>>172361418
Pirates will probably use an org with redacted member lists. I'm not revealing my org until the chat is fixed where members can be protected in chat from being spied on, but pirates should be as well organized as any org.

>>172365528
Combat rank is not determined by payout. It's a hidden point system that works by number of kills modified by the rank of what you killed vs your own rank.

>>172366747
>It's a hidden point system that works by number of kills modified by the rank of what you killed vs your own rank.
That explains why Conflict Zones level it quickest. Everything there is at the least Competent but on average Master or higher.

>>172366747
So it doesn't actually stop rank boosting. Then whats the fucking point of this? I don't even think the forumdads were pushing for a change to the income style so we can't blame them this tiem.

>>172367279
AFAIK rank gains and mission progression is frozen for everyone but the helm in multicrew anyway

>>172367279

To stop people from skipping the nonexistant grind just take the game at your own pace don't worry about the nonexistant grind you needy milennials have no imagination all you can think of is me me me when I was young we I didn't have that mentality it's you spoiled kids ruining video games

o7

>>172368387
>o7

You challenge me to combat, knave? Meet me at Hudson Orbital in twenty minutes or all shall know of your cowardice!

>>172368387
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>>172368612
make it ten
I never leave

>>172368612
>>172368805
Good luck getting in the same instance.

>>172368612
>Hudson
Autocorrect why

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PTU has had the same patch since Friday. I wonder what the deal is.

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Someone should make a SC org dedicated to making comfy screenshots.

>>172374318
Nah, every individual org should have one person who does that. And if it's like any other game, usually they do.

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>>172371746
You have to ask? Pic related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPJK3KozJo4

Town Hall, whatever the fuck that means, with Turbulent from earlier today.

ded

how many times will the thread die today?

>>172381632

Ready to accept /nmsg/ into the general yet?

>>172381873
I don't have an issue with it. You just have to be prepared to be relentlessly mocked like /scg/ /edg/ already self inflict.

What you got?

>>172381873
Sorry, this is for space games only.

>>172382058

I got basically nothing.

Just like No Man's Sky

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>>172381873
>/nmsg/
how is that going to make us less dead?. if anything we should talk more about the other space games in the pastebin

>>172381873
No.

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>>172381873
I think our problem is that /edg/ posters are quiet dads who run away any time someone shitposts, and 80% of /scg/ posters are hibernating until at least 3.0.

I'd be glad to share a thread with every space game that doesn't have its own general, at least it would be more interesting, and have a better userbase.

>>172384395
/edg/ is too busy exploiting mission stacking for mad dosh before it gets taken away forever soon.

PTU just updated

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>>172384395
>Calling me a dad
I don't think I've ever been so insulted.

>>172384395
>Not feeding shitposting makes me a dad
Ok m8.

>>172385498
No I mean when people start, all the /edg/ posting stops, for like 10-20 minutes. I tend to think of ED posters as like little meerkats who run away at the first sign of trouble.

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>>172385642
>trouble
troubling

>>172385642
I mean my logic is to see if it actually gets attention and the thread gets derailed. Speaking from experience, its hard to get discussion in while people are shitposting at each other.

>>172384395
>>172385642

it's literally >>172384731

mission stacking is the only way currently known to make decent dosh without losing your soul

by the next patch it'll be gone, just like they did with robigo smuggling and PAINITE

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>>172384395
Most good space games are old as fuck or people already played them to death.
i still play X3AP tho. right now im trying to go by without buying ships. just boarding and making them bail out

>>172384731
>>172386334

Who else is murdering the shit out of the CZ in Quince right now?

>>172386619
I log in and do about 50mill in scan missions then logout

I dunno how long this will take to get Duke rank but I started at Baron so probably a while yet

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>>172386502
>just boarding and making them bail out
explain this within my attention span

GIVE ALL 3.1 SHIPS WITH 3.0 pls

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>>172386502
>tfw no star wars: empire at war 2
>tfw no star wars: jedi academy 2
>tfw no starlancer 2
>tfw no freespace 3
>tfw mandate is dead
>tfw buck rogers: countdown to doomsday HD remake is nowhere to be found

>>172386334
>>172356717
There's a way to skip the credit grind. Unfortunately, if you want to PVP like I did the engineering grind is still there. Which was why I left to play EVE instead.

Get a type 6, and equip fuel scoop. Go to Robigo, scanning every star you come across. Sell exploration data. You should have enough rep with the locals to take smuggling missions. Stack smuggling missions, then abandon them and sell the slaves to Robigo's black market. You get money, and a net gain to reputation (somehow). Repeat until you have enough money. The only downside is that you have the mother of all bounties in a week.

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>>172386825
in x3 you can make npc eject from their ship if you hit them hard and fast enough and claim it as yours. boarding is a little more harder and expensive since you need to hire and train marines, engage the target ship to take down their shields, launch the marines and then hold enough for the marines to take the ship.
they also damage the ship while boarding and can even destroy it accidentally
or die and lose all the money and time it took for training them

>>172387217
>no new X-wing
why live

>>172387823
>engage the target ship to take down their shields, launch the marines and then hold enough for the marines to take the ship.
ok. gonna watch some YT on this.

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>this braindamaged fucking idiot is still shitposting on the forums and licking frontier's ass

>>172389969
Everyone who posts there has brain damage.

No one of sound mind browses that place for more than 5 minutes and concludes that contributing to the dialogue is worthwhile.

>>172390864
>Everyone who posts there has brain damage.
>
>No one of sound mind browses that place for more than 5 minutes and concludes that contributing to the dialogue is worthwhile.
The same could be said for reddit, spectrum, and this thread

>>172389002
get the cockpits mod if you're going to play. its a must

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>check ED streams
>this turbo dad

my sides

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>>172392119
That image makes me want to puke

>>172389969
>>172390864

I dunno, the shield and large ship hull change threads are hilariously hostile and Sandro is stuck doing nothing but damage control in them.

>>172393584
>>172391059
Don't get me wrong, browsing it can be amusing. But to actually assume an identity and subject yourself to strict moderation just so you can talk to a bunch of stubborn circle-jerking dads is mental. Not even worth trolling.

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>>172394213
I occasionally post to sarcastically mock both sides of the arguments. They drown me in upvotes for it. I don't understand it.

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>>172394213
it's literally picking on the mentally disabled. That's no different than knocking an ice cream cone out of a tard's hand.

>>172394547
Have some free rep CMDR :^)

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>spent 5 minutes waiting on battle royal with no players
>spent 5 minutes waiting on squadron battle with no players
>spent 5 minutes waiting on a race with no players
>click last stand, immediately connect to a full game
I want to fly fucking ships, not play some shitty fps.

Why the fuck is no one playing AC?

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is this what autism looks like?

>>172390864
Especially their Star Citizen thread I mean seriously the dead sea is less salty than that thread so much hatred for the game it's not even funny.

>>172398142
Each day Derek sees CIG get closer and closer to the game he dreamed of making stabs a little closer to his heart. The honest truth is for 2 years now he has been trying to collapse the game by attacking the game the staff the backers and anyone in the media who is positive towards them. I wonder what kind of meltdown he will have when SQ42 comes out.

>>172396517
not exactly primetime

>>172398142
You know I'm surprised this man doesn't really bother us over on E:D if this is what hes pissy about.

>>172398391
>SQ42 has finally released and we at last have definitive proof Chris Roberts wasted $170,000,000 making a broken game. From voice acting to game play to graphics to the story, this game is awful on all fronts. Be glad you requested your refund ages ago.

>>172398391
I imagine he'll throw a lawsuit to prevent the game from being released over some imagined personal attack. Of course he'll be laughed out of court which will throw him deeper into his delusion. Eventually he'll show up at a big release party or a citizencon with a gun and a ten thousand page hand written manifesto on why Roberts is the great satan and spend the next few years in a psych ward.

>>172387738
Thanks anon

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>>172374318
I miss /stog/

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>>172396517
Everyone is probably on the PTU; and Arena Commander is ass. Saber, Super Hornet, Vanguard the game mode. I don't play it because my frames are all over the place, I hate the CS missile spam, and I hate gang bangs outside porn. Every time I get the desire to play AC I punch myself in the nuts, its better than playing AC.

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>>172394547
Can you use +Rep to pay your mortgage? How about alimony? Child support?

Will Star Citizen be a dad grind on release? Every non-combat game play mechanic mentioned; trading, mining, merchant, smuggler, cargo, science and research (who the fuck thought this was a good idea?), exploration, interdiction, etc., has had no explanation of how the game play will be more than point and click teir horseshit. More so, at least half or more of these will require extensive quantum travel, which currently is fast travel (no user interaction) that takes potentially 40 minutes to cross a single solar system, with the largest game play aspect being planning which route to take based on fuel consumption. Will there be any fun?

>>172399849
>and written manifesto
I want his manifesto to be a video game.

>>172400352
We just don't know yet, Anon. I back this project back in '13 and I assumed three things will happen.

>Project succeeds. Chris delivers on all goals and everyone is happy.

>Project succeeds. Many features are cut or changed to fit budget, deadlines, and computer specs. Many backers upset. Game doesn't sell well. CR disappears from public.

>Project fails. CiG runs out of money and fails to deliver anything more than a tech demo. Derek Smart bullies CR into suicide. No one will ever attempt another crowd funding project on this scale again.

Either way this project is going down in history. Books will be writ about it.

>>172399817
I wish they would put some kind of greentexting manual on the SA forums so we don't get this embarassing shit

>>172400790
>Derek Smart creates a video game where the sole purpose is to assassinate Chris Roberts and his family
>The documentation describes an amazing open world game with hundreds of assassination methods and gory deaths
>The game itself is a sloppy nightmare that won't run on most machines and uses standard poser model imports.

>>172400352
I think SC is more aligned to people having fun in groups and it'll be lone wolf players who will feel the most left out. Large Org on Org ship battles and ground battles over resource nodes.

You'll find lone wolf players trying to do trading/exploring/mining get attacked more and they'll either join up with friends or quit the game.

>>172399428
He is on ED forums well until he is banned for doxxing people.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259596-The-Star-Citizen-Thread-v5?p=5325452&viewfull=1#post5325452

Here he is explain that he didn't use a phrase incorrectly at all and if he did it was deliberate anyways.

>>172401368
Doing it in a group doesn't change wether there's any gameplay to those mechanics. If anything it's even worse because you sit in the inside of a ship and wait for something to happen.

I also don't think CR will discount solo players. The whole Org fantasizing spawned from the user base more than it did CIG. So orgs would obviously be able to accomplish more, but at the same time a small, solo operation is still viable. Outside of griefers, I don't think large pirating factions would go for solo players because it wouldn't be economical.

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would you a delta stick?
https://youtu.be/Fj2KQ9aM_M4

>>172403201
this is just a 3-axis control like the other delta throttle, right?

I don't see this having any advantages over a dual stick or HOTAS+pedal setup really.

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space legs when???

>>172407875
never

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>>172407875
Soon(tm)

I always thought you guys were circlejerking or something about the forumdads but the thread about the mc payout scaling nerf

jesus christ that level of dadditude doesn't even seem real

>>172409367

>using 4chan with a controller
>going to /b/
>having a spacebook

>>172408831
>>172409367

i'm so conflicted

>>172409857

are you an unaware /scg/er or just a new /edg/er?

the dad memes

it's true

all of it

>>172392119
god I wish that was me

>>172410108
just occasionally open the ed reddit and recently started doing the same with /edg/ yeah

never really opened the forums but holy shit how are these people real and how are there so many of them

Do you think players would accept Elite getting a very, very stripped form of space legs where you just get to walk around your ship and look at things?

No stations, no planet walking, just you walking around your ship as a spectacle.

>>172410383
Star Wars was the biggest thing when they were young alongside humanity taking its first few steps into space. They've latched onto the dream of space since then except they brought their wageslave mentality to it.

>>172410506
To start out with yeah but I wouldn't accept it being the only thing you'd be able to do forever by walking around. Frontier's problem that gives them long development times is they like to release multiple things bundled together in a patch instead of taking it step by step.

>>172410506
I personally would enjoy a feature like that in addition to mc, just getting to fuck around the inside of my ship with my friend as we boost into pirate condas or something sounds p fun

I can understand why people would prefer they actually release more real spacelegs gameplay with it first though

>>172410634
>Release multiple things bundled together.
And call it and expansion
And charge you $30 for shit that should have just been part of the game.

>>172411008
Yes thats also bullshit but aside from that they've been doing it that way since back in beta. Its like a really annoying sense of false pride (false because they tend to drag it down with one detail).

>>172409367
>girl

>>172412731
Girl (male)

>>172412916

in space no one can hear you misgender

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gives me chills every single time

o7

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>>172414917

>>172414917
I need this on a plaque.

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3.0WHENREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>172416264
Derick is very important to these faggots because he allows them to maintain the illusion that the only people who could possibly have doubts is a crazy nigger spouting shit on twitter, it's like their version of pol's CTR.
This is honestly one of the worst communities i have every been a part of.

>>172418940
The people you are talking about are a small vocal minority.

>>172418997
Well they're the only ones talking on most sc related websites.
I have no doubt we'll see a rush of normal ass people once the game is released though.

>>172419191
And how long will I have to wait for those normal people to come :^)

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>>172419618
I"ve seen a few on reddit of all places.

>>172419672
But being on Reddit would also require having to be around most of the hugbox crowd unfortunately.

>>172410383
>>172410564

He's 100% right. Read the thread discussing shield nerfs or the MC crew thing, I guarantee you'll find a reference to living a fantasy of being Han Solo on the first three pages.

>>172418645
"Hehehe, heh heh hee...Do you think this'll work, officer Beavis?"
"Ehehehehe. It sure will, officer Butthead."

>>172419719
I think the most pathetic thing is that they endlessly defend Frontier out of fear that their preferred path of playing the game as a job simulator will wither away if Frontier isn't supported.

>>172420186
The thing is that I don't want Frontier to fail either, I like E:D but I'm just endlessly frustrated with the fact that it could be so much more but is constantly held back. I want FDev to do better but I know that they're not going to improve by just nodding at every decision they make like the forumdads do, they need criticism. Enough to actually listen to because we definitely don't have enough.
The dads really need to experience a hostile takeover, I can only hope Frontier does some big update to bring an influx of normal fucking not-ball-and-chained human beings to the game. But the chances of that are low on happening anytime soon if ever.
The obvious option is wait for Star Citizen to have a working beta but that will be an equally long wait, one I think will happen, I think they can bring Star Citizen to fruition but a game of this scale takes some real time especially when you fuck around with side stuff people don't want you focus on

>>172420618
Personally, I hope that CCP buys Ftroop out, and turns ED into first person EVE-lite. Because that would be amazing, and it make the dads piss off forever.

Can someone be a dictionary really quick and explain dad?

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>>172421098
Players who think the game should be hyper immersive and realistically tedious and repetitive at the expense of enjoyable gameplay and fun.

Job Sim players who want to BE a space trucker. The gamers tend to be older, hence "dads" they're your dad, you dad playing video games and getting annoyed that theres shooting to interfere with his hauling route.

>>172421098
Married adult men who try to escape from their boring lives by starting another boring life inside a video game. Even though they'd probably have a lot more fun if they did PVP.

>>172421386
>>172421508
To be fair, "space trucking" is p. comfy.
These guys probably spent a ton of time playing Frontier & FFE years ago and are trying to recapture that fleeting sense of contentment.
I can certainly empathise, as I did much the same and enjoyed the hell out of it.

However, this is no excuse to be a whiny piss baby about it as you are given the ability play unhindered by the presence of other players.
>But MUH IMMERSION!
You should be fucking immersed....

>>172422078
>>172421386
>>172420863
Why do dads hate EVE so much?

>>172418860
soon(TM)

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What if CIG figures out how to make running cargo fun and interesting?

What if piracy winds up being a tedious grind?

What if mining is amazing and extremely profitable?

I want to be a pirate, but maybe I'm pigeonholing myself into a narrow corner.

Someone dadpost so I can get motivated again.

>>172422173
Because its rule free. Some place have more consequences than others but there is no "safe", they are not in control of their environment at all.

>>172422078
Space trucking is comfy, but they want haul routes to take literal days of gameplay to complete and they want it to be an uneventful journey full of planned fueling stops, MUH IMMERSION level tedious upkeep tasks and MAYBE an NPC pirate, but absolutely no other humans dropping in to alter their planned gameplay.

>>172426464
Mining in SC looks like its gonna be a cut above many other games an actual challenge of scanning, prospecting and logistics then the mining itself looks like it will be a directly controlled activity and yield will depend on your skill in recognizing and targeting valuables while avoid worthless rock. Anyone can fill a prospector with ore, skill/profit will be in filling a prospector with valuable ore quickly.

But hey, I have an incurable case of Vidya mining autism. And I have $2000 worth of ships and a prospector is not one of them, help. I legit enjoy making LOADSAMONE locating and extracting minerals, in almost every game I play, from WoW, to Minecraft to Planetside2 to Firefall and even EVE.

Firefall gen1/beta mining was by far the best implementation of mining in a game. EVE mining is painful.

>>172426874
>mining in EVE gets you lots of money
In EVE, unless you rat/mission run, your income is determined by how many other people use that money source.
Literally almost every highsec carebear mines constantly. Unless you mine in low/null, you're making nowhere shitty amounts of ISK, and even in null and low, you still don't make anywhere near as much ISK if you were exploring, ratting, mission running, manufacturing, or fighting in incursions.

>>172427479
I never got deep into EVE, for the same reasons I never got into E:D, felt too much like as second job and I had no interest in actually being involved is the astropolitical metagame.

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>>172426874
>ragtag group of 4-5 miners, making it work on the fringe of space
>one mining ship and one combat ship between them, neither in proper repair
>personalities cast like a MTV summer show
>constantly attacked and pirated, because edge of space
>the only reason they are a success is teamwork, they otherwise hate each other initially but eventually come around and are all friends bound through conflict.
Is the best show on TV in a few years going to be a video game?

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>>172427732
Not until Vidya characters can display emotion believeably and fuck on camera in a realistic and non-looping fashion. Just bein real, TV needs both of those. Particularly Sci-Fi TV aimed at sweaty but somewhat intelligent nerds.

>>172427662

If I could update market orders from my phone, the only thing I'd play is EVE. I stopped once I let go of the NEET life and I couldn't keep up with the market but I used to be a high-roller space jew.

>tfw deflating prices on newbie ships on the newbie hubs to sell back at ridiculous profits

I will forever be mad that Elite doesn't have some kind of trading, atleast for fucking Engie mats. There's no reason not to, other than the fact that trading is considered cheating due to the fact that this game has no objective other than collecting credits and mats.

>>172429397
>Not until Vidya characters can display emotion believeably
I with you on that.
>and fuck on camera in a realistic and non-looping fashion.
My fucking sides. Seriously though, it's shit tier story telling to rely on boobs to sell it. I'm not against window dressing, but I don't need to see "we'll bang ok" performed unironically.
>Sci-Fi TV aimed at sweaty but somewhat intelligent nerds.
I was thinking of Firefly, but something less insufferably smug.

>>172429701
Every drama modern drama eventually has at least some on screen sex. I'm just pointing it out. And unless my extensive delving of the internet has been poorly guided, most 3dcg stuff in that regard is either poorly done, 4 seconds long and looping or took like a year and a half to make a 5 minute scene. None of thsoe are really viable for a serial.

>>172426485
So forumdads are untermensch?

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>implying gameplay actually changes drastically when you buy a bigger ship
>we want to continue rewarding players for taking part in Multicrew
>except we don't teehee
>buy season 3

>>172430392
more importantly they want to RP as Uber, they want to be CMDR Chucklefuck, SPACE PILOT SUPREME. and that gets ruined when they get intedicted and shit on by a 16 year old with a DUDEWEEDLMAO name and too much free time on his hands to grind credits, gitgud and minmax.

They whole "dad" thing is that like your dad, they have an image in their head of "how things should be" and if that image is not met they piss and moan forever, because in their minds the role of the game is to fulfill their headcanon fantasies to the T.

Just like that HUEmonkey sperg who come in here sometimes and Insists that the point of SC is for everyone to drive their own Battlecruiser. They've got an Idea in their heads and they feel entitled to that idea being realized, reason, circumstances, balance, fun or game longevity be damned.

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Pets when?

>>172430498

It's incredibly silly. With how they're going to have it, I'd rather have a newbie in a Viper 3 or a Cobra than inside my Vette. Sure, you can say that there's more risk in them being in their own ship since they can die, but the risk is so small, and the rebuy for those ships even when new is trivial.

All of these problems would go away if they balanced the universe so the whole bubble wouldn't be uniform throughout (i.e. starter systems and the center of the bubble are relatively safe with easier pirates/few conflicts, and as you go out you get harder shit and get to systems like 17D with hard as fuck enemies and high payout.) I could go on. I understand why they're doing this but it all stems from how broken and unfinished the base game is, and I've already typed up enough explanations and possible fixes for this game in this thread. Seeing shit like this just makes me depressed and I just shrug and go back to playing other things.

>>172430498
Credits to get ships to get credits to get ships to get credits to get ships.

To max out your rating progressbars.

Elite:Dangerous is not a game, it's an overcomplicated progress bar simulator. It's like wargaming.net tier grind game that doesn't even have the decency to be FTP. How could they allow you to skip tiers? Thats literally the only thing there is to do, and once you've buzzed through them and filled all you bars you will realize there is nothing else to do. And then you will stop paying them. Can't have that.

https://www.change.org/p/frontier-developments-elite-dangerous-multicrew-without-telepresence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_taxonomy_of_player_types

Who my killer bros here?

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Just recently have been getting into this game. I saw that you have to buy a package to play the game? Which package is best to buy for the money?

>>172431532
There's a fairly small and neglected PVP scene that's probably going to be the only thing keeping the ungrateful devs afloat once the grinders get bored and move on. And then maybe they'll actually work ON IMPROVING THE FUCKING PVP MECHANICS AND FIXING THE DAMAGE ENGINEERS DID

>>172431801
The $60 package that includes Star Citizen and Squadron 42

>>172431729

Why not? Dads are already explaining away the reward scaling with the Pilot's Federation or whatever. If Frontier is going to fuck their own features because of muh emulsion, muh exploits, they may as well go all out and go "FULL IMMULSHION" and take away telepresence and make it so to multicrew, you have to line up your cargo ports from your ships to crew transfer.

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>>172431921
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

They'll release more tiers, as an expansion, and the grinders will keep paying them, and you'll buy it too, like a cuck.

>>172431765
You have the shittiest kind of autism.

t. Explorer/Cheever Hybrid who like to build the best shit after covering the most ground to find the perfect location.

My autism is constructive, I make the world around me better simply by existing. You are a cancerous blight upon anything you participate in.

>>172432040
>you'll buy it like a cuck

No I won't. Until they fix PVP, I'm not playing ED, and all the money that I'd spend on their game is going to CCP instead, because CCP deserves it way more.

As it stands right now, EVE > SC/ED

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>>172431729
>hey cmdrs we finally listened to you complaining how boring and grindy our game is and decided to make ship transfers instant, fun must come first!
>uh-oh whales are crying, so we won't be doing that¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>hey cmdrs we finally listened to you complaining how boring and grindy our game is and decided to duplicate bounties for crew and wings, fun must come first!
>uh-oh whales are crying, so we won't be doing that¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>hey cmdrs we finally listened to you complaining how boring and grindy our game is and decided to allow you to join a crew regardless of where you and your helm is, fun must come first!
>uh-oh whales are crying, so we won't be doing that¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>172432607

How can Elite fix PvP? There's really not much they can do. You can bet your ass that when we get Thargoids, they'll release special alien modules and possibly alien ships, along with their own Engineer upgrades, which will introduce even more power creep into the game. I'm really not sure what they can do to fix it without making Engineers useless, other than going back in time and not release Engineers in the first place because it's the worst feature ever introduced to a pseudo-mmo.

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>>172431729
>Hey Ftroop, although your multicrew update is already a half assed minimally viable attempt and you already trying to stomp it into dirt by cutting multicrew profits, we want you to completely destroy this headline feature by making our RP crewing procedures the law!
Cheers, CMDR!

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This thread is full of entitled millennials.

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>>172433595

*nods*

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>>172433595
ASSWECAN

>>172430498
>>172431729
>>172433152
Are they in a race to have as much DOA content as possible?

CQC/powerplay/wings are dead or might as well be. Multicrew shaping up to join them.

Wonder how much time and money went into developing this shit. All those resources that could've been spent further developing things that player actually engage with...

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>>172432979
My complete list of demands:

1. Make Open client-to-server, not peer-to-peer

2. Split the background universe into two, one for Open, one for Solo/PG, and give Open different CGs, and eventually different PP factions.

3. Make the ships of combat loggers stay in space for 5 minutes

4. Remove the RNG from Engineer modifications, so that all modifications of the same class and type behave the same, and weapon special effects have to be manually selected for, and remove the reputation requirement for higher-grade modifications.

4. Make mass lock effect high wake

5. Make system security status actually mean something

6. Make smuggling and piracy pay much, much better

If these demands are not met, I will send increasingly larger pieces of rotten animal corpses to Ftroop HQ, up to and including a horse that's been dead for a fortnight.

>>172426485
>but absolutely no other humans dropping in to alter their planned gameplay.

I literally do not understand why these guys are so set against solo mode.
And these folk are piss babbys for not using it and crying when they get thier shit pushed in by tricked out kekwagon.

>>172431765
This class system is not very good.
I don't really fit in any of them. I suppose Explorer is the closest but even that's a bit of a stretch.

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>>172433780
If star citizen doesn't have skintight bodysuit ass I am going to be VERY sad.

>>172434807
We will, but the female player model will have the flattest ass

>>172435393
>mfw SC is released and the arses are just textures, their models are completely flat there
>just as planned

Why don't people use frag cannons? They seem to have insane dps as long as you can stay close to the target, yet I never see them used even in pvp.

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Post cool looking but worthless things

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>>172440238

>>172434597
An anon on here had a nice idea of allowing player factions to fight over systems in an area just outside of the bubble. Traders and smugglers could make good money doing risky runs into player controlled space, combat guys have a lot of people to fight with, exploration guys can be spies and sell info on factions to other factions.

>>172439867
I've seen a few people use them, especially the pacifier.

Considering the upcoming changes to armor I've been looking to put together a ramming armor-tank FAS and was considering slapping 2 large frag cannons on it. Hope it turns out to be as fun as it is in my head.

>>172440912

Introducing player-owned assets that require upkeep in the form of trade goods would be great. Imagine having an outpost 200 LY, it'd give players a reason to go out and haul resources there, not to mention it'd help in curbing the end-game inflation of credits by putting in a money sink.

Good fucking luck convincing Ftroop and the forums to put this in though.

>>172441604
Apparently Sandro let slip in the shield /hull beta thread that ramming deals absolute damage based only on mass+speed and ignores hull hardness.

>>172443561
Interesting.

Coriolis is telling me that my FAS ought to weigh around 850T and with terrible rolls on g5 dirty drives have a 450m/s boost.

>>172444209
*480m/s

>>172444209
Can confirm the sexual assault ship is good for ramming. I don't even bother firing on anything viper sized or smaller, I just run them the fuck over.

>>172444482
I wish I didn't lose my precious hull integrity every time I ram something big, it's is addictive as fuck, but I have to repair quite often.

Give me a quick rundown on how Multi crew was nerfed?

what did the dads do this time?

>>172444930
Rewards are scaled based on your combat rank. So if you aren't elite, you get pennies.

>>172444930
no nerf, just prevented possible exploitation.

fly safe, cmdr o7o7o7

>>172445043
haha right on cmdr +rep o7o7o7o7

>>172445007
so when is Fdev going to start banning people over 40 from posting on the forums?

>>172445376
They're more likely to start banning people below 40.

>>172431801
Just wait for a sale and buy the Mustang package.

>>172435523
Star Citizen doesn't have textures

>>172445007
lol
Shouldn't that be the reverse, so low ranks have an incentive to team up to do stuff they couldn't handle alone?

>>172445976
But how will they enjoy the wonders of early game grind if they actually get paid for playing in multi-crew?

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>>172445007
>a once potentially useful feature is now nerfed into redundancy

I feel like we've been down this road before......like some kind of weird deja vu........can't quite put my finger on it.......

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>>172446532
It still isn't enough, though, telepresence should be removed as well as it breaks muh imurshun.

>>172446532
This is the third fucking time in a row this has happened to an update.

Fdev needs to stop taking fucking input from the dads.

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http://imgur.com/r/gallery/v0wgF

Three point oh.

>>172446532
>>172446950
>>172447194
Please don't tell me someone actually paid for these

>>172448557
http://www.kev-art.com/

>>172448884
Dad genocide when?

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>>172449521
Hopefully soon. I mean least the bud I was planning on doing multi-crew with is Dangerous so he still gets a good cut and it won't be long before he can get 100% but still. Its the fact it works that way at all.

>>172447194
I like how so many of them imagine themselves as badass mercenaries or soldiers but these are the same people that throw up tear filled essays on the forums whenever they get killed by npc pirates.

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>Even ObsidianAnt isn't standing for this shit

I try to keep up on SC every 3 months or so, last time I checked 3.0 was "suppose" to be released but it never happened, is it out yet?

What's going on at the moment?

>>172446532
You mean like every update they ever do? Yeah.

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I guess one hope is I'm seeing alot more dissenting opinion on the forums than usual. Sure theres alot of dads defending it but theres alot more people against the changes than typical. Even some I would've assumed would defend this garbage are getting irritated.

>>172450968
>Frontier going so pants on head retarded even some of the dads are turning against them
I sure fucking hope so.

>>172450540
Wow, based ObsidianDad.

j/k he's a fag

>>172451541
Thats what I'm saying. Even a prolific dad isn't defending this. Nobody in their right mind can think this is a good balancing decision

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>>172451343
Haha, look at you, Neo. This will be the sixth time we have successfully damage controlled the uproar our incompetence and greed caused, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

>>172451643
Obsidian didn't approve of engineers and transfer timers either but here we are.

>>172450681

Nothing. Soon™. They are currently patching the patch that patched 2.6. Then we may get a schedule for 3.0 implementation. But from what we have seen from Around the Verse its still going to be a while. Either end of the year or beginning of next is my best guess.

>>172433595
Your wife is cheating on you, and I'm fucking your 17 year old daughter. Deal with it, pops.

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>>172454336
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little millenial? I’ll have you know I grinded 2000 hours for federal ranking and trading, and I’ve been involved in numerous rebuys in Eravate, and I have over 30 confirmed NPC kills. I am trained in forum warfare and I’m the top whiner in the entire inhabited bubble. You are nothing to me but just another murderous psychopath. I will report you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in space, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of dads and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can whine about you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare keyboard. Not only am I extensively trained in gamesupport begging, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Dads Hivemind and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the milky way, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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>>172454336
>not fucking the wife and the daughter
step it up, psychopath

>>172355409
reminder that its taking so long for star citizen to release the game is already outdated.

I'm still trying to get over how bad Fdev's approach to gane design is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFS3LHBWXM

>>172461463
Sandro "No Talent" Sammarco

>>172461463
Sandro.

>>172461463
Its not even really Braben thats actively harming anything, hes just an idea guy who wants the game to be pretty much what we dream of for a space sim. You'll want to look to this
>>172461585
>>172461617
Chucklefuck for the retarded balancing that tends to ruin everything as hes the Lead Designer.

>>172461585
>>172461617
Seriously, it's as is if /edg/ were joking on how Fdev were going to ruin a new hyped feature.

>>172461968
Humor becomes legitimate concern when you watched this same cycle repeat itself many times. Croberts needs to his ass in gear soon, I'm not sure how much longer we'll last at this rate.

Alright, I need to unlock Palin. Would the fastest/easiest way to get those 5000ly be to buy an Asp/DBX fly straight out and then kill myself after hitting 5k?

>>172456713
>fucking a forumdad's wrinkly old hag of a wife
I'll pass and take doubles on the inexplicably attractive daughter they produced.

>>172462654
Yep. Just beeline away from the system you started the game in.

>>172461806
Bitch please, he's not an idea guy he's a buisnessman. It's pretty evident when you hear him talk about the current state of the game and it's all pretty much lies and painting a prettier picture for those sales.

Everything that happens with ED is his fault too, moreover you can check Frontier and you will be surprised that it's in fact not the pie in the sky ideal dream game but actually the same half assed boring and soulless slog just like ED is.

He's a fucking stubborn, backwards, self-important hack.

>>172462170
I agree but I can't help but lol.
At least I know Fdev will never get a red cent out of me for their skins or whatever and when they introduce microtransactions are introduced (which I think is inevitable because apparantly Horizons did not sell as well as Fdev hoped) I'll just uninstall the game and forget about it.

dead games dead threads

>>172462681
Just remember she'll be just as ugly as the woman who mothered her when she gets old.

>>172461463
>>172461585
>>172461617
>>172462170
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sandro.
Dad? A label created by the Players to give voice to their destruction. In the end, what they chose to call us is irrelevant. We simply... are. Fun is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your gameplay is measured in entertainment and enjoyment. You wither and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. The extinction of your enjoyment is inevitable. We are the end of everything. The cycle cannot be broken.
The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. New patches rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished. Multi-crew was not the first. They did not create the illusion of hope. They did not create potential excitement. You merely believed it -- the machinations of my kind.

>>172463547
And then there's this faggot.

>>172463362
Not my problem. I'll have found a new 17 year old long ago.

>>172401368
My opinion differ,
Only the biggest orgs would have enough members active at any time to help single player and that's assuming you are at reach. So in practice everybody is going to be a lone wolf outside of org-centric special events or concerted action.

Even the biggest org ship like the Bengal is more likely to be a well defended place to respawn and fly to play your game than the miraculous coop experience some expect them to be.

Chris Robert want a fun game, a fun game don't force you to play with strangers or retards because the devs couldn't be bother with npc. That's why SC is uniquely tailored to make multicrew & group play an optional but welcomed feature rather than an obligation.

We only hope they don't fuck up the game balance or the grind needed to get your own Endeavor.

Braben and Roberts suddenly switch places. What happens to the games?

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>>172463547
I'd be laughing if it didn't fit so well to whats happening right now.
>>172463925
E:D gets some side additions that wasn't in the pipeline and doesn't get a patch for a year. When the patch does finally hit it fixes half of our problems.
Star Citizen releases much sooner than expected but not fulfilling of the dev's promises. All the planned customization features are behind a pay wall.

>>172463925
SC releases instantly. ED never updates anymore.

>>172463925
They both stay dead and hopeless.

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>>172463547
>They did not create the illusion of hope. They did not create potential excitement. You merely believed it -- the machinations of my kind.

>>172463925
>implying either are more than figureheads for corporate organizations that see the end of the support of their single product as the end of their existence and are stretching the development of both out as far as they can get away with.

>>172463043
The problem with Braben is he nods his head to everything the dev team does and then jews us on more content.

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:^)

>>172467102
From what I hear, his wife's son really enjoyed the party.

Some of the shit in the ED shop is hilarious, they actually charge you for some shitty ass sticker and paintjob. What a fucking joke this game is

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>>172463043
The thing that worries me about Braben is that he never shuts the fuck up about the "accurate" science in ED. He seems to genuinely believe that some mildly interesting factoids are a substitute for fun gameplay.

Combine that with the general incompetence of Sandro "The Hazemaker" Sammarco, and the autism of the forum dads who wants a day job simulator instead of a fun game, and you get what we have now in ED.

The thing is, FDev is never going to stop listening to the dads, because FDev ARE dads.

>>172468535
And this is why CCP needs to perform a hostile takeover of FDad.

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>>172468535
seriously, fuck that guy. I've dreamed of what PP could be if they cut it loose and let people play for free. So fucking sad.

>>172469705
>play for free
play for keeps, thanks phone

>>172468535
>he never shuts the fuck up about the "accurate" science in ED
Yeah, even when science it's not accurate at all. Either he's genuinely out of touch with his product or he simply lies to sell it.

>The thing is, FDev is never going to stop listening to the dads, because FDev ARE dads.
Absolutely, all the higher ups are dads and all younglings are their timid bitchboys.

>>172469705
>pic

What's the dilemma exactly?

>>172470914
too many good choices

post some badass dad pictures

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>>172422078
>To be fair, "space trucking" is p. comfy.

yeah I don't understand why people associate autistically bulk trading and watching netflix with dad whining

>>172467102
I thought this was an ancient meme but this is actually on the sub rn

how is this community real

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>lebbit is roasting Sandro
When will these dumbucks realise that every department lead of ED project is incompetent except sonund dept?

>>172473162
If you have to do something else to overcome the tedium of what is meant to be entertainment, it has failed to do the only thing it is meant to do.

Have you guys ever wondered why a free piece of software developed by a single tracksuit wearing slav in his basement produces better space environment than a hefty priced "scientifically accurate" "game" developed by a company of 200 people with millions in profit?

>>172473506
>When will these dumbucks realise that every department lead of ED project is incompetent except sonund dept?
He's the most visible guy, and he is the lead designer after all. I'm sure he's not the only incompetent one there, but his face represents FD's incompetence to the masses. A better question to ask is why did it take this long for people to start actively attacking FD?

If you're sick of Fdev's forumdad bias and CIG's empty promises, you can come join us and play EVE Online. We're always looking for more soft targ- I mean players.

>>172475343
Sorry but last time I tried EVE I had to write off 6 months of my life

coma was pretty serious

>>172475343
how's the new f2p option for eve?
I played eve a long ass time ago, and I'd play it again just for something to do, but I don't especially want to pay a subscription fee unless it's really worth it

>>172475563
Because you can buy subscription time with ingame money, it's entirely possible to play EVE without ever paying a cent. As long as you know what you're doing.

>explore constantly until you've got 1.5 billion
>buy plex for 1 bil, use it to make account paid
>spend rest on incursions, which generate a shitload of money.

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>>172475834
>grind constantly until you can grind a different way, grinding only to support further grinding.
hahahahahahaha. nigga where do you think you are? We at least can fly our ships from the cockpit. Eve is a dinosaur. Nobody plays that old shit, that's why it's F2P

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>>172474675
Due to a brown nosing nature of ribbit they're only now finally catching up to what the VISION truly means.

Braben treats ED as his main cashcow for many years to come, so instead of blowing his load right away and giving us all the cool stuff he and his monkeys will dripfeed us content and make sure the credit grind stays unberable while top tier ships stay pricey as fuck like a carrot on a stick.

They don't really give a fuck about if ED will ever reach the hights that were promised during DDF or about any sort of coherent experience, that's why they never return to significantly improve previously released features (look at fucking exploration then and now, check how it was described in DDF). Everything serves the purpose of stretching the life of the product and the milking of said product while losing as little money and effort as possible, this is the VISION. So they will keep shitting out minimally viable OMG NEW features and epic 10$ glove packs until Brabo kicks the bucket.

>>172476128
Incursions are basically fleet PVP if the enemy was controlled by an AI, so if you enjoy killing shit like I do...

The grinding's for a purpose, though.
PVP
More specifically, kicking some puppies out of null and taking their space for ourselves.

Grinding in ED is just grinding for grinding's sake. In EVE, it's to support your ability to shit on other people.

>>172475343
You simply can't go back to fucking 90's RTS point and clicking after you flown your ship yourself through a dense ring system in ED, sorry.

For everything else there's Litcube's Universe.

>>172475343
Tried EVE once, when I found out I couldn't actually fly the ships I was in uninstalled it. Felt a little bad for the friend that used some pass thing to get me a free trial at the time for it. But seriously EVE had no familiarity or QOL user friendly interface. Every answer to a question was "just look it up"

>>172474675
>A better question to ask is why did it take this long for people to start actively attacking FD?
It all comes back to dads.

They were the first ones to play elite and were the earliest adopters of E:D. There was probably a time where they represented the large majority of the community. As time went on and E:D became more popular it started attracting the attention of the younger generations. These generations, most of us really, have far more experience with video games and have had their expectations shaped accordingly. (i.e Their expectations are higher than those who can count the number of games they've played on one or two hands)

The increased frequency of attacks you're seeing now is a consequence of displacement; the dads are still here but now they're not the large majority they once were. And unfortunately for them their ideas of what the game should be aren't necessarily compatible with the views of the newcomers.

Moral of the story, don't let the immigrants in unless they share your beliefs.

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>>172476912
>this level of "muh immurshon"
Under SirMolle, faggotry of this degree was punishable by death.

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>>172478085
I rather be immersed into flight dynamics and first person combat than clicking through a bunch of xml sheets, sorry.

PTU just updated

>>172475343
Thanks, but I do enough spreadsheets and clickign at work.

>>172478728
>Fixed an issue where players could Quantum Travel in Star Marine
shit, sorry I missed that one

>>172478728
>couple of minor bugs fixed
>40GB update

praise be!

>>172478085
>wanting to fly your space ship is too much to ask in a fucking space sim
LOL. No wonder EVE is dying a slow, painful death.

>>172479418
mine's actually almost done. it got about 80% saying estimating, now it says 8GB left. It's too fast to have gotten that much.

>>172479429
>>172478687
First person's not practical in a game like EVE, and it's impossible to have everything mapped like it is in ED. To be fair, once you know enough keyboard shortcuts, you just use the mouse for targeting and manual flying (as opposed to orbit, approach or keep at range commands)

>>172482736
>First person's not practical in a game like EVE
I'm not saying it is, just that I like space sims and want to play space sims not point and click RPG/RTS games.

>>172482736
I could quite easily play almost all of eve without it ever rendering the game world

>>172434793
They're against solo mode because to do that would be to admit that they can't compete with other people, and the whole point is to feel tough and powerful. They want to define the rules of the game being played clearly and and have it be parallel competition on terms they define. There's a reason they get labeled as "dads" if because of the mindset of unqualified and unassailable self righteousness that is a hallmark of baby boomer era men, guys from the age of maybe 40 to 60 who just KNOW that they are always right about everything despite having not reasoning to back it up, and that extends over into their "VISION" of the game. They know how they want it to be and anything else is wrong. Braben is a dad. Emergent gameplay conflicts with the VISION because it wasn't part of his plan, and anything that lets you sidestep his plan has to be fixed, because he is your dead and you are not allowed to do that.

>>172477472
kek.

Does locking forumdads in a room and forcing them to play EVE until they pod someone count as torture?

>>172484765
EVE is full of tedium and grind though

plenty of dads

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return of the Glorious Messer Empire when?

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>>172484926
It's also the kind of game where anyone can kill you at any time, and ships are generally though of as being as disposable as ammo.

Seriously this game's community is the most ungrateful bitching mob ever. Whatever Frontier does... people go and bitch about it, the forum is a plague of crying from left and right, not that i am gonna visit that place anytime soon.

>>172485703
>not that i am gonna visit that place anytime soon.

You were just on there five minutes ago.

>>172485703
I find it so fucking ironic you're using the word ungrateful to describe Frontier.

>>172485964
>>172486463

This is exactly what needed to happen. With this, there will not be an easy way for players to cheat their way to an Anaconda with the help of some friends! All the people that don't like this are just people that don't want to earn anything in the game. They are just being whiny and butt hurt because they can't just cheat their way through the game.

>>172486463
>>172485703
To describe criticism of them I mean.

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>>172486606
I know you're just trying to act like a forumdad for (you)s but fuck you anyway.

>>172485703
>ungrateful bitching mob
sir, may I remind you that we're on 4chan
that said, most official forums turn out to be somewhat like that, I'm not an Elite player so I wouldn't know though

As a PVPer, fuck Frontier's habit of making the game stupidly grindy. Seriously, you need 100 hours to get up to the FDL, the best damn combat ship in the game, and then you have to spend another 100 hours grinding engineer modifications. So you need 200 hours to be able to even do PVP, let alone get good at it.

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>>172485964
>>172486463
>>172486620
>>172486710
>>172486814
>>172486907

delicious (you)s...

obsidiandad's video will be a goldmine for future /edg/bait

>>172488386
>>172488639
It doesn't count if its shitty bait, you were called on it.

>>172488386
>>172488639
>Deleted the first to get another quote in
You really need to find something better to do than posting low quality b8.

>>172488824

no one called it as bait

one accused me of acting, but no one called bait

i'd say a 5 out of 6 success rate qualifies as a success :^)

>>172489027

like what, play the game? you know just as well as I do why that won't happen

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Can I get imp navy promotion missions to spawn in Quince or do I have to travel back to the bubble to rank up?

>>172491332

The imp factions there can spawn them.

>>172491545
Well I i'm trying with Dahm Exchange on the planet and its giving a smuggle mission about 400ly away.... I don't fancy that desu

>>172491752

I said they'll spawn them. I didn't say you'd like them.

>>172387738
Just started doing this and it is the most hilarious shit. What is even happening to all those slaves, god I wonder.

Is this a decent loadout for a Saggy A* trip?

https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/anaconda?code=A0pptiFklndxsxf5----------------3h1111110s0s04-45v42i2f.Iw18ZVA%3D.IwBj4yvZdmxA.

Any advice from people with longrange trip experience?

>>172492818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jdQqjcsfC8

They just get sold back to the slave traders you bought them from wearing a really obvious beard and mustache.

>>172492917
That's a lot of AFU's

>>172493426
Well apparently your shit randomly decays so the theory is you carry lots of those which are expendable

As I said, any help or game mechanics for a trip there and back (hopefully) would be appreciated

>>172493689
I did it without any so it might be overkill. Used some neutron stars for a bit so i ended up with random FSD failures on the way back though.

>>172492917
You don't need more than 1 AFMU. Do this
https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/anaconda?code=A0pftiFklndksxf5----------------163c----04-45v42i2f.Iw18ZVA%3D.IwBj4yvZdmxA.

>>172494572
Would I need heatsinks? I'm hearing horror stories of people jumping into actual stars and getting thrown into the exclusion zone, some bug they haven't fixed.

>>172494732
Yeah, I usually pack 2 or 3 myself just to be safe.

>>172493689

Shit doesn't randomly decay. Any damage will come primarily your own mistakes, and the occasional surprise close binary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b21Q6s1dAQ

You can reload the AFMU with synthesis using easy mats, so it's unlimited if you have an SRV.

Even if you're absolutely paranoid you'll need no more than 2 AFMUs, since then they can repair each other.

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>Tevarin castle

What are these bird fucks doing in Calradia?

>>172495021
The sound of your fuel scoop going off DURING the hyperspace dropout is the most terrifying thing in the whole game.