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RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF


>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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NEu
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Huh. A paired greatshield? The fuck is this shit? This doesn't even make any fucking sense.
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Has anyone figured out the item IDs for the +3 rings yet?
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>>172312735
>ds3
>making sense
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>>172312735
If you don't think that's the tighest shit in the world I don't even know what to say to you.
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How is Ledo's great hammer? Is ringed knight's spear better than GFS?
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>>172313114
ledo's gh almost has 800 AR at 66/10

rks is more fun than gfs
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Y'know, the level design in this DLC could've been toned down a notch.

I'm really lost. How does one get to the other side of this door?
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whats the best low level to farm darkmoon blade covanent
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>>172313259
I did it at 20 cause it's easy af to get to Anor Londo
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What is the recommended Soul Level and weapon upgrade for the new DLC?
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So how the fuck am I meant to get past this bridge with the dragon on it? I run all the way up to the mine shaft looking area with the root skeletons inside, there's a crystal lizard but the pathway breaks every time

I'm trapped in here now
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>SO THIS IS THE BLOOD... OF THE DARK SOUL
>Immune to bleeding
nice one
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>we finally meet the pygmies only to find out that Gael had taken the long way just so he could get there first and murder them all
What the fuck. Fuck the painting, can I do something else with the Dark Soul?
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how the fuck do I get past the dragon?
it always burns up the pathway too fast for me to pass.
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>>172313602
get more hp retard
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>600 2H AR on Splitleaf at 66 STR

Will it blend?
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>>172313657
it most certainly wont stagger
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>>172313252
i was stuck for like 3 hours.
you have to get past the dragon bridge and into a crypt with a stairway that is broken. behind you is a pile of rubble that you can climb on and keep moving. it doesnt even look climbable ffs
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>>172313602
Nice pic.
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>>172312551
I'll still get plenty of invasions and boss summons when I start the DLC this weekend right?
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>>172313815
a lot of good wallpaper scenes in this dlc
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>>172313892
>No spear demons in Basegame or the 2 dlcs
Miyazaki and Tanimura Really dropped the ball on this one
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anybody fought halflight yet?

i fought some scrub and it was too easy.
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OK anons
Just tell me if the DLC has any news in game history
Too lazy to find out desu
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>>172313514
Meta level +10 on ng+.
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>>172313892
Nice pic again.
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do we have IDs for ringed city items and spells yet?
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>>172307601
>>172307731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpGK-H8tiaM
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So do I need to put offline mode on for Spear of the Church if I want to progress through this DLC? This is autistic
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>>172314915
You could play offline, or you could just actually get good at the game.
PVP is the easiest shit in the world
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Just beat Gael

Is this the hardest fight in the entire series? It's like if you gave Artorias 10x more HP
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>le DLC is hard XD

I just beat the princes at SL35 with a +4 bandits knife

Protip: Tarkus Shield invalidates the boss
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>>172315053
Do you want a cookie or something?
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>>172315048
As someone who has played BB in it's entirety including low level chalice dungeons, not even close.

Orphan is harder. Hell, defiled Amygdala is harder. Hell, fucking Loran Framebeast is harder.
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>>172315048
demon princes are harder

gaels' first form is harder than his second except for the undodgable unpredictable lightning
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>>172315131
Bloodborne isn't in the series dumbass.
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>>172315267
yes it is
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Gael's first form is easy as fuck if you just play keep away

At least with the second you have to actually dodge shit
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>>172315628
Last time I checked there were 3 Dark Souls games not 4.
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Why wont my ps4 controller work on my pc edition anymore
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Spent 13 hours on that DLC. Pretty awesome stuff.
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r these gud stats?
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>>172315673
there are 5 actually

you forgot demon's souls
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Does anyone know what is in the corpse behind the ladder you have to jump over on the way down to the dragon boss fight? I accidentally closed the pick up display and didn't get to see anything, but the item seemed to be important.
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Fucking hate this shit. Should have spent 5 extra minutes putting visual cues in the level to show you can jump safely from these areas. Would be really nice too if they would give a reason on why you can survive these falls. A huge pile of ash that puffs away when you hit would be all that's needed.

Did no one give a shit when making this?
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>>172315739
God no. You need to have 99 Vit and 99 Vig to even stand a chance in PVP or the DLC
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Guys just fouund the absolution statue, what does reinstate king's decree actually do? just let's me fight the invasion boss again?? for what?
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>>172315861
>Would be really nice too if they would give a reason on why you can survive these falls.

Apart from the circle of runes around where you land?
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>>172315924
Come on dude shit doesn't even glow or anything when you fall towards it.
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Any kinda anon out there able to help me kill Freide? I'm at SL40 and I only seem able to help other people kill it; I wanna enjoy the DLC...
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>>172315870
Aight done. Also color me upset that 50 -> 99 only adds 100 HP.
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>>172316027
>DLC at SL40

that sounds miserable

double your level and then come back
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What new covenant rewards do?
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what is with this lag bullshit in the arenas?

holy fuck, every single fucking match 30 seconds into the arena my opponent freezes moving, I hit them, they die and I win
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>>172316027
Freide is harder with help.
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>>172316093
If I could get Leut It'd be doable. I only ever manage to get 66% of the way into phase 2 because thats when the AI goes full retard final form. Like wtf, why not give them lmao double sheilds. Its obvious they can't attack or dodge or do anything useful.
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Up to the Demon Price, these are my stats. Should I respec? I seem to be doing alright, died a lot at first but that was me just getting used to the game after not playing for a while
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>>172315919

Slab farming
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>>172316256
Nah, she's way easier with another player. Specifically her first and third forms can be stunlocked if players just trade hits correctly. If anything I'm upset I cant do to her what I did to vilhelm for this sword.
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>Ngmax
>demon prince has an absurd amount of health
>literally doesn't even show yellow when I'm knocking down his health
:(
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>>172316420
Her first form is so easy that you can't even count it. I find her added health pool is not worth it on her 3rd form.
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AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, FINALLY, I HAVE BECOME THE DARK SOUL
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>>172316541
It just combo'd me thru tears of denial.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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exactly where is the last location of Lapp??? after giving him the statue info
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BLACK KNIGHT WEAPONS WRECK THE FUCK OUT OF THOSE PUSSY ASS DEMONS


RIP AND TEAR THEIR FAGGOT ASSES APART WITH YOUR BONUS DAMAGE TO DEMONS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhIS4FdS7co

THEN GET 1 SHOTTED BY GILGAMESH WHEN U SPAWN IN THE NEW ZONE
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>>172316697
Her 3rd form? Stay close and ignore her chip damage. She's only hard if you back off her.
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>>172316771
Should I just save my ember for later health? Honestly It doesn't look like it matters either way at this point there isn't anyone to summon.
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>>172316864
Hang on, i'll go lay down my sign
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>>172316864
But really just get a UGS and use charged RTs on her, she gets knocked down and you can abuse it.
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Where do I go after killing Gael? Is that all of the DLC? Where's the Dragon boss? Did I fuck up by killing him on the bridge?
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>>172314915
>>172314994
does it just give you some weird custom npc like DeS did with Old Monk if you do it offline?
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>>172316864
>>172316960
is that you summoning me?
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>>172315683
I had to download that DS3 tool thingy. play with it plugged in too.
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>>172317108
No i was stuck in a fight with her; gimme a sec.
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can I just go through the king's decree or will it lock me out of the cool kids club?
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>>172317108
password is:
dsg
thanks ahead of time
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>>172316732
better question is, where does he go after completing the quest and getting his armor
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>>172316732
remember the spiral stairs you run up to get to the shared whatever bonfire? the one right after the first encounter with the dragon? Remember how there is a red rag to show where to drop down? Well he will be sitting in that little alcove waiting for you. Do what he says and then grab his armor after the cutscene.
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>there were faggots in this general who didn't think the archers were ruin sentinels

SUCK MY DICK
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>>172317353
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>>172312551
>show your humanity
>50 white branches later and i still can't show it

I guess i'm just not human
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>>172317384
you have to go far away from the wall. Like go outside, kill the flyguy and walk a little farther THEN use it.
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>>172317384
>>172317483
You have to do it in the water
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>Pygmies
>Pigment
7 years of build up.
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So I'm downloading the DLC and I'm on NG+7. Am I still fucked if my character is level 500?
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>>172317230
Welp, still on my own I guess enjoy helping out that other guy. Let's see if I can do it this time.
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>>172317624
So what's the story with the dlc? How does it relate back to the painter and shit?
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>>172317639
Maybe on Midir.
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>>172316369
Vigor's a little low. Depending on your weapon, dropping END to 20 (or 10 if your weapon is light) and putting it into vigor would probably be helpful. Shit hurts in this DLC.
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>>172316743
Do Black Knight weapons get a buff against the demons?
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>>172318009
20% I heard
That's what I killed DP with
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>>172312801
Take the ID from the +0 version.
Increase it by 3.
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>Found out you can actually roll through the dragons fire with I-frames if you time it right

I'm fucking neo
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Fuck I thought I had it solo that time but she went to heal directly under the fat one while he used flamethrower. Why are bosses (that aren't players) able to to do that??
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>>172318009
It's been in their description since day 1, and it's real. Greataxe and Ultra Greatsword do absurd damage to both forms of the Demons.
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Guys I'm at church of milianore bonfire and cant get out, fog walls are covering the 2 doors wtf do I do?
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This is a thing.
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Will Lapp visit the Altar and I need to talk to him there or should I look for him elsewhere?
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>cool this guy is raising his arms
>10 million sentinels spawn
>you died
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>>172315754
Dark Souls = Dark Souls 1-3
Souls = Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1-3
Soulsborne = Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1-3, Bloodborne.
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>>172318159
I blew all my twinkling on other stuff before the DLC dropped. Might just switch to my dark sword and cheese them
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>>172318479
THEE HAS BEEN JUDGED

That and the angel gauntlet are just stupid. It's not really all that fun, just tense.
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so what's the recommended lvl for spear of church?? im 120 and never get summoned
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>>172318695
What's he judging me for?
Where's his tongue?
Where's his bird?
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>>172318358
>he's never spent an inappriate amount of time fucking around with gestures with randoms

Co-op and invasions are always best when you aren't doing what you're supposed to. I once ended up playing hide and seek for three hours, probably the most fun I've had in the game.

Dragon Form is the hide and seek meta. Lie down in a bush and no one will ever find you.
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How do I calculate the strength needed to two hand high STR weapons?
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Are Quietly Builds worth it anymore? Should I respec for sharp or blunt?
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Reminder about the pickle connection:

The Pickle clearly refers to Velka's cock. Siegmeyer, despite slowly going hollow and losing his memories, still vividly recalls the impressive length and girth of that goddess' gonad, hence why, whenever he's at a loss for what to do, the image returns to his mind and he can't help but exclaim "quite a pickle, indeed"

Velka is a rogue goddess both because, just like Papa Gwyn, she couldn't stop dicking things, but unlike Papa Gwyn, she's a goddess, and godesses aren't supposed to dick things. She crossed a line when she feminized and dicked Gwyndolin into submission and made him into a sissy intslut. Gwyn had probably been grooming his last son to be a worthy heir to the exiled Nameless King, so when he discovered his prized heir couldn't produce an ounce of lightning and was channeling faith for dainty blue magic instead, he was probably outraged and sent his son's futa mistress packing. She'd have hung for it, I'm sure, if she wasn't already so well hung. Instead she wanders the world as a rogue and spreads her unique brand of sin to all the bad little girls and boys that need punishment
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>first weapon we get in dark souls is a broken sword
>remember people shitposting that the last boss will just be a hollow and soul will transpose into a broken sword
>last weapon in Dark Souls is a broken sword (Gael's Greatsword)

IT ALL COMES TOGETHER
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>>172319332
>>/d/ is that way.

Go jerk off then come back.
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>Guard some bitch that if woken up will cause everything to turn to fuck and everybody will die
>Guard it with a single giant that says "p-please turn around......."

bravo
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Well.

After finishing both TRC and AoA I've come to the conclusion that I liked the DaS2 DLC much, much better.
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>>172319449
More like
>it all returns to nothing
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>>172319649
after finishing all of DS2 and DS3 i have come to the conclusion that DS1 is the only good one and the other two are pointless tripe
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>>172318875
Oh I have, it's fun. But it's still a thing. Also that hide and seek stuff is interesting, how do you even get the idea across that you're doing it?
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How safe is it to switch my game to ng++ with CE?
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wait, so if i want to access the dlc covenant, i have to kill midir BEFORE i fight the old monk boss? or is the only prerequisite just, killing midir period?
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was the boss has too high hp meme from NG+ players? Demon prince wasn't as hard as you niggers said it would be, died more to soul of cinders
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>>172319332
Drawfags, when are we getting some velka dicking gwyndolin?
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>>172319791
DeS, DaS1, and BB are the best ones IMO.
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looking for Gael?
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>>172320028
desu I'm not the biggest fan of demons but Dark 1 and BB are great. i wish they just made more one off games instead of cramming shit in to dark souls
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>that R2 for Ledo's hammer

EASY ON FROM I CAN ONLY GET THIS ERECT
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>Kinda short
>Bosses are okayish
>No real closure about anything lore-wise

So this is how it ends, huh?
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>>172319456
Don't forget the dragon that decides to not use his wings
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>>172320316
Is it gud senpai?
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How do I get into the DLC? The wiki said there's a path at Friede's bonfire, but there's nothing there.
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>>172320324
>kinda short

Much longer than any other DS dlc.
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Is there a cheesy way to kill the giant in the swamp? Getting tired of his shit.
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My favourite part of this DLC is people asking "What do I do after i give the dark soul to the painter girl?"

I almost want to be there when they realise that thats it, that there is literally no ending
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>>172320470
you have to beat Friede then there will be an extra bonfire a few feet away from the boss room bonfire.
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>>172320523
I guess, but the lack of closure is kind of pissing me off to no end

that and the final boss makes no fucking sense
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>>172312551
Has anyone landed a plunge attack on these niggers yet?
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Can I backup my save, change my build around then revert back to the old save (on PC) without getting flagged or anything?

Wanna try out a str build
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>>172320810
You know you can just respec.
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>>172320691
I've already uninstalled DS3 because of this fucking DLC.

This is how you're going to send off the series? This is our reward for sticking with the series for several years? Fuck you, you fucking hacks. I hope your new games flop and you go back to being literally who devs in obscurity again.
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>>172320884
Yeah but there is a respec limit per play through right? Also i'd invest my stockpile of mats on upgrading a weapon
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>>172320764
I did almost, but the fucker jumped away at the last second.
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>>172320810
It is safe.
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>>172319812
They can try and message you. That's the most direct way. You really can show a lot through gestures too. They did it in a pretty interesting way. They started spamming Hello and calling me over. Since I was invading but didn't really want to get ganked I decided to unequip my weapons. He dropped the dragon torso stone, and then using the point forward gesture, made me watch his summons. They equipped untrue dark ring, and then one of them curled into a ball next to the bonfire (halfway fortress). The other one then ran over to the corner there next to the little cliff by the stairs in the halfway fortress, where there is osme taller grass. He then lay down in the grass, becoming basically invisible. I've used that spot to hide from invaders when I'm too lazy to fight at lower levels, but I realized they were demonstrating that they were hiding. The host then called everyone back, and then point for us to go and hide. There were no enemies, even the crabs were dead. The winner would get a siegbrau as a reward. Was fucking genius and a load of fun.

Another encounter was seeing three hollows wearing black leather set squatting. One had no hat but no hair, another had pharis' had, and another had thief hood. They had russian names started taunting me with the call gesture. I eventually came up, they started spamming a food item, and one of them then dropped a siegbrau for me. They then surrounded me, pulled out bandit daggers, and started spamming block button until I took it and ate in, when they then all did the "Joy" gesture. They then all pulled out caestus and went punch crazy on me
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>friede is maria
>gael is orphan
What did memehacki mean by this?
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How do I get to Midir? I already beat Gael.
Step by step please!
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>>172320910
Best thing is, right after I killed gael and realized he was the last boss. I didn't even bother giving the soul to the girl, because I knew it'd be fucking nothing
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So how do I unlock arena in TRC DLC since I dont own AoA
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>>172321089
>ToH was supposed to be split up but one part of the DLC would've been too short
really gets my nogging going, it's literally AoA+TRC
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How does White Birch Bow compared to Black Bow of Pharis? It's white, so it's privileged to be better, right?
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>>172321089
Friede is Mario (Anime grill goes full anime)
Gael is Orphan (batshit crazy human-sized enemy)
Champion's Gravetender and Gravetender Greatwolf are Living Failures (really shit boss no one fucking liked, nor wanted to ever deal with, but you have to deal with which is the most annoying shit ever)
Not sure out of Demon Prince and Darkeater Midir is Ludwig or Laurence.
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Post ashen ones
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>Literally run through the first area because angels
>First boss is a 3 phase boss
>get to the ringed city
>aaha boy I sure hope there's no caster that casts something spamming arrows that one shot me
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Time for offline mode
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PÃ¥litliga lappen is at Shared Grave
not at the bonfire but when you enter the place. to the right insted of going to the crystal lizzard
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>>172321414
Ludwig is one of the best bosses in the entire series, so...neither?
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BORN WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE

END WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE
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>>172321680
the invader cant use estus so it really isn't such a big problem, you just gotta be careful of the painting guardings casting heal
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>>172321414
Never got an answer before but is Poison Bandit Knife now a good fuck you weapon, or would it be better to apply poison and bleed separately if I'm going to do so?
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>>172321347
It follows a similar design too.
There are 3 areas in the DLCs. Hunter's Nightmare, Research Hall, and Fishing Hamlet in Bloodborne, and Ariamis, Dreg Heap, and Ringed City in Dark Souls 3. Hunter's Nightmare would likely have been our DLC1. There's much more content in Hunter's Nightmare than either Research Hall or Fishing Hamlet on their own. Plus, Hunter's Nightmare has the twisted design, while Research Hall and Fishing Hamlet don't seem like part of the nightmare, considering every other nightmare location has really twisted geometry. This is kind of inverted in Dark Souls 3. The 3 DLC areas are continuous, however the first has a completely different design philosophy, with it being relatively similar to the majority of the game, while Dreg Heap and Ringed City have a really weird warped geometry. Ariamis has more content than Dreg Heap or Ringed City on their own. The plot of the DLC is also connected, however Hunter's Nightmare and Painted World of Ariamis stand on their own much better, compared to Dreg Heap and Ringed City, or Research Hall and Fishing Hamlet, which wouldn't function as well as a standalone DLC.
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>>172321879
poison is hot garbage
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no black cleric armour

shit dlc
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>>172321968
Even post patch?
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>watching streamers facetank their way through the DLC with their vitgouge SL120 characters on fucking New Game
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How is Church Guardian Shiv? Worth the 9FP?
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>PS4 Pro version of the game is 60 FPS
There's literally no reason to get the PC version
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>>172322182
i do this on SL150
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>>172321702
True. Ludwig is never going to be reproduced. As a general, Humanoid bosses are much better designed. While Bloodborne did a better job or portraying beast bosses, they were never the better ones. The best Bloodborne bosses are often cited as Gehrman or Gascoigne, the humanoid ones, and Gascoigne's second phase isn't nearly as fun as the first. The reason I think that Ludwig has a different design philosophy over any other beast boss. Instead of just being a "big monstrous beast", he still has some of his sanity left, and he is designed as such. He is designed like he is a human, despite not being one, and so they are not only trying to portray his beastlike nature, but the person that is or was Ludwig.

Basically it's just he's designed to be humanoid despite being a beast. They use the monstrous design in combination with the humanoid design of making him seem like a skilled fighter, plus having a personality. It has the creative design of a monstrous boss, and the personality and fluidity of a humanoid boss. It's literally perfect design.
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>>172322182
I'm SL130 and on NG+++ and it's still really easy.
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>>172322253
I don't think it is 60. It seems more like 40~50.
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>darkeater on ng+3
WHAT IS THIS FUCKING HELL.
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>>172321680
Why? most people doing it are complete fucking garbage, and let alone good pvpers make it an interesting fight if they aint pussies.
its great to go into it as a great pvper and just faceroll squads of shitters.
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Does the bigass wolf in AoA drop anything? I got him into red eyes mode, but then he glitched through a wall and disappeared
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>>172322182

>see TBFP because /v/irgins keep making threads about them
>they're level 60 at the undead settlement

Reminds me of my friend that exploited the infinite soul glitch in DS1 but couldn't make it past Sen's Fortress.
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These ringed edgelord knights are like lothric knights, except worse

SO LE CREATIVE MEMEZACKI
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>>172322565
That LP is generally regarded and one of the worse due to that shit.
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I fucking hate when the bosses are given a gazillion hp and they're made resistant to everything.
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>>172322182
none of them will be able to facetank Darkeater
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>>172322565
I don't think TBFP have done a single enjoyable piece of Souls content
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What a bullshit boss
nigger literally has 100000000 billion HP
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>>172322565
I'm actually confused. What are they thinking? They're literally still at the start of the game, at near-endgame levels. What the fuck are they doing? How long have they been playing?
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>>172322640
Pat is a faggot, the Woolie LPs are fine though.
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>>172322182
SL75 here
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>>172322764
The fight ends after you take off the first 1/3 of his HP. The rest is free as fuck
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>>172322731
bloodborne was slow but fine
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So how do you unlock Lap's armor?
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Spears covenant is so fuck holy shit.

>Get summons into a 4 man ganksquad
>Preparing To Dieâ„¢
>get with a Dark Sword for less than a 1/10th of my HP
>Manage to take out all 4 while having roughly half my HP remaining

Better than invading.
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>>172322854
yeah, I went through the DLC as SL80, which makes it all the more frustrating
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>>172322764
>we cant get his sick ass corpse cloak
>we cant get the unique silver knight armor
>we cant get the harald set

why does from hate fun?
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So what is the current PvE faceroll that literally cannot die and kills everything stupid quickly?
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>>172322246
Gimmick shit, so no.
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>>172323054
>cannot die and kills everything stupid quickly
whatever it is, it won't work in this DLC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOhVEiLTUwM

https://youtu.be/wpGK-H8tiaM?t=20
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>>172312551
A few spoilery questions

Does "Lapp" go anywhere after kicking you off? Is there no confrontation with him? I looked high and low and I'm confused about whether that's the actual end of the questline.

Did I fuck up by saving Midir for last? I've heard people say that it fucks up the questline for the behind the door, and that it fucks up the ability to get the new covenant. Anything major missed if I saved Midir for last? I also heard that you have to solo Midir to get a katana, is that true?

Are there any missables or am I safe if I played it blind?
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as a ng+ pyro, how do i beat the fuckin twinsie demos?
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>>172323438
You use a sword like a man
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>>172323054
No-fun bosses who are resistant to everything, weapons do no damage, magic, faith and pyromancy is a joke.
This game is too balanced for its own good.
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>>172323403
Killing Midir unlocks the spear of the church covenant, touching the egg locks it out permanently. You lost all the covenant rewards. So far all we know about is a gesture, a chime, a katana, and two miracles (all unique).
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>>172323403
>No, that's the end.

>Yes, you fucked up and missed out on something. No, you don't have to do that.

>It's super easy to miss a LOT of stuff in this DLC.
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Should I be having trouble with the DLC at SL200 on NG+2? I'm really rusty but it seems kinda like everything has massive amounts of HP.
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>>172323438
Either use dark pyromancies, or grab a fully upgraded crystal chime and use sunlight spear.

What level are you and what stats?

What
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What the fuck even is the point of the Murky Hand Scythe? This might be the worst weapon in the entire series.
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HAHAHAHA VERY FUNNY FROM

THOSE RINGED KNIGHTS ARE LITERALLY LOTHRIC KNIGHTS BUT WORSE

XDDD NICE ONE
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>>172323505
>>172323498

Well fuck. What the fuck were they thinking hiding missable shit behind a Dragon hidden behind an illusory wall past a secret path in the middle of an elevator shaft? I see a grand fucking castle and of course I'm going to go explore, reeeeeeeeeeee.
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>reach midir
>try to stay in his face, on his legs, on his tail
>nothing works
>deal 80 damage per attack when he doesn't flail around 50 meters away from me

Alright guess that's where I start twinking the fuck out of my low level character. Really glad they balanced his health pool around epic exile bro and his 2 phantom fuckbois.
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>>172323438
NG+ pyro at SL 120. They don't have a lot of attacks and have large openings, it takes time but if you just keep running away and poking them whenever they're open it's pretty easy. I found it easier to get the version of the prince with the laser.
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hoooold on senpai, i beat gael, and saved midir to last, did i fucked up new covenant? wtfffff
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pls help me with ng+3 midir on PC

one mage would be great
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How do I get the Lapp armor set niggers

I talked to him a bunch of times, he's now sitting here at some tower looking for rotten something
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So I've reached the part where the dragon is just waiting at the far end of some stone bridge. I assume he roasts the ever living shit out of everything on it. Just wondering if there's more to play in the swamp before I go that way. Yes, I found the Purging Monument, grabbed all the times (that I've found so far), but is there any other direction I can go from the swamps or is that the next area transition?
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>>172323873
>>172323743
It's not THAT convoluted.

One of the NPCs tells you to go fuck up the princess.

Another NPC who protects the princess asks you to go kill the dragon.

Doesn't take a genius to figure that the second NPC might be mad at you if you fuck up the princess.
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>>172317384
Young white branches dude?
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>>172322443
I'm SL130, only on NG and at best have managed to get him to about 15% after 6 or 7 attempts.
He has so much fucking health and is almost constantly thrashing/jumping/charging, I can't imagine how bad it is on NG+.
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>>172323743
>>172323498

He's actually wrong, convenant doesn't get locked out if you touch the shell. Just the rewards from Shira.
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>>172322560
Pls respond
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Where the fuck am I suposed to fucking go? Dickhead asseating dragon is blocking my fucking way and theres no other route, its like im back to DS2
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Can I get a list of the PvP viable sorceries?

Thank you in advance.
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>>172323901
nobody?
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>>172323930
>yes I found the purging monument
Say what? I just cleared that area (also up to the bridge calling it a night), adnd didn't noticed anythjing like that. It's not in the ruins with all the ring knights is it? That's the only place I haven't explored.
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Oh man, I was so excited for the Harald Curved Greatsword but it just seems like a worse Exile Curved Greatsword with a different weapon art
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>>172324079
Wait how do you get into the covenant then?
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>>172324035
They also mentioned the dragon possibly forgetting its vows and attacking the princess, and she had some egg that I thought might piss off the dragon or something. Idk, seemed like the logical progression of the level, I didn't think they'd hide him away.
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>>172324154
>NG+3
sorry m8, I have only done the DLC on NG characters yet
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has someone tried killing Gael before going into the DLC, or doing Demon Prince using Lorian gear
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>>172324237

No, you have to unlock the ladder near the Ringed City Streets bonfire. It's on that wall that says "Show your humanity". You have to go just slightly below the stairs, right into the swamp muck, use White Branch, and then as a Humanity Sprite come up to that wall with the "Show your humanity" where it lowers down the ladder, that leads to a place you can't access otherwise. From there on, you'll find the Purging Monument. You can't miss it.
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>>172324079
What rewards do you get from Shira?
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So if Lapp is Patches then how come Patches is still in Firelink.
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>>172323925
>Find Lapp in Dreg Heap, exhaust dialogue options
>Find Lapp at Earthen Peak bonfire, learn about treasure, recover treasure, exhaust dialogue options
>Find Lapp in Ringed City, exhaust dialogue options
>Solve riddle and discover Purging Monument
>Find Lapp further in to Ringed City, exhaust dialogue options, direct to monument
>Find Lapp in Shared Grave, exhaust dialogue options
>Return to where Lapp was in Shared Grave, recover armor

Or just kill him and buy it from the handmaiden like every other NPC set.
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>>172324130
I personally use
normal soulmass
crystal spear
great soularrow
farron flashsword
soul greatsword (mostly for baiting rolling attacks for parries)
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SUCK
MY
DICK
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>>172324058
i'm only SL80 and midir is really not that bad as long as you don't use anything slower than an axe.

90% of the boss fight is running though
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>>172324368
I haven't noticed a wall like that. Guess I need to go back to the streets.
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>>172324380
You're stupid as fuck.
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Holy shit.
How do I get past Normandy?
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>>172324401
What do I miss out on for killing his ass anyway?
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>>172324369
the slab you get anyway
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>>172324127
Kill the dragon.

>>172324380
Memegooki is convoluted.
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>>172324368

Oh no, wait, I just reread your post. Yeah, go to the ruin where those Ringed Knights are, just look at the back end of it, you'll find the entrance for that room.
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Vordts hammer shits on Gael big time if any str buds are having trouble
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>>172324430
Using anything bigger than a longsword makes this fight tedious as fuck, mainly because of the first phase
Not sure what the fuck they were thinking with the health pools other than "hey we did this in DS2 and no one liked it, let's do it again just to spite all the haters"
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>>172324430
>follower sabre
nothing else comes close, it's so best
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>Quality weapons
>bunch of useless spells
>heavy armour nobody will wear
>desert slut meme set added

thanks memezaki, fuck this DLC and fuck white people
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>>172324452
Explain? Cause Patches is clearly still just sitting there in Firelink meanwhile Lapp is sitting in the dreg heap and other parts of the ringed city.
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Whoops, sorry

>>172324450

Look at >>172324519

I accidentally replied to myself.
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How many ATT slots do you need for Great Soul Dregs?
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Well, damage difference between those two staffs under WA effect is around 50. Without WA, court shit outdamage murky. Thanks, From. And when they buffed Deep Soul cast speed?
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>>172321038
Lol that gopnik encounter sounds wild
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>>172324583
Agreed, fuck white people.
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>>172324560
isn't the follower sabre much better than a longsword, except the lack of thrusting attacks?
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>Midir
>every attack is undodgable AoE fuckfest
who thought this is a good idea
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>>172324583
>heavy armor no one will wear

Lapp set physical wise is basically the best set of armor in the game and doesn't even come close to the weight of some other heaver sets.
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>>172316743
>Tfw Black Knight cosplay build
>Tfw getting summoned left and right to absolutely rape these demons

I feel so good right now.
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>>172324778
Read up on Tigole. The hardcore autists always ruin every game they play.
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Guess ill post here as well

>killed Uncle Grandpa before Maleficent
>lady behind door wont talk to me

did I fuck up?
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WHERE DO I GET OLD WOMAN'S ASHES AND WHAT DO THEY DO???
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>spear of the church
>load in
>run up to host and 2 hit combo him while he's fighting painting guardian
>frostbite proc
>death

this boss fight is cancer and you should absolutely summon for it
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What the fuck, why does Midir on the bridge have so much health?
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>>172324898
>pussy ass cracka mugs an old man because fighting the big BLACK dragon first was too scary
>surprised that white girls ain't interested no more
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>>172324898

If you were hoping to get Shira's set and weapon, yes.
>>
IT AIN'T ME
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>>172325041
If you think the health he has on the bridge is a lot just wait until the actual boss fight starts.
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>get summoned twice in a row for Spear of the Church
>both times kill the guy with the same Ring Knight Paired Greatsword wombo combo

Sorry kid, nothin personnel
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>Finally beat Demon Prince
>According to /vg/ this isn't even the hardest one

FUCK

Also Pointiff Right and Left Eye doesn't proc on Splitleaf Great Swords sword art?

I maxed this for nothing?!
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>>172325119

Not the anon you're replying to, but why does everything have so much HP in this DLC?
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Is the new hex worth it? GDS has a fucking FP cost of nine. NINE. But GSD is 30
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>>172325139
The fuck up with that resolution?
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Do you need ng+3 for new rings?
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>>172325191
Artificial difficulty
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>what's going on here?
>oh
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Does Shira do or say anything different if you kill Midir before waking up Ms. LiterallyWho?
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>>172325139
if you hug demon prince nuts he literally cannot do anything to you

>>172325228
they're available on any playthrough
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>>172325123
how does the summoning work? do you get ashen estus?
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>>172325139
Demon Prince is super easy compared to the others except the spear of the church.
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>>172324130
Magic shield
Great farron dark
[POWER GAP]
Swordsceries and magic missiles, including great deep soul

Depends a little on if you're casting from a weapon or not.
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>>172324990
From the Old Woman at the very beginning of the DLC, and literally all they do is add the Splitleaf Greatsword to the Handmaiden's inventory in case you forgot to buy it before completing TRC.
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anybody wanna coop through dlc2?
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>Ashen one is someone who failed to link the fire
>Bearer of the Curse didn't link the fire and instead looked for another way to break te cycle
>You visit Earthern Peaks in the last DLC
>Ashen one helps to create the painting
Is the protagonist of Dark Souls 3 the same from Dark Souls 2? I think it is...
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>>172325069
nigga I didnt even know how to GET to the fukin dragon! I had to read up where to find the fukin hidden wall after throwing myself off the cliff cause that bitch told me it was BEHIND the spear shrine things

>>172325072
FUCK
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>>172325264
Yeah, you get 3 Ashen Estus, but you can't use your own Estus. Gotta have the painting bitches heal you. Or you use miracles yourself to heal.
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>>172325191
It doesn't. FROM probably got their asses lit for making HP sponges, so now everything just has 90% absorb on every damage type
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>>172325234
>Katana and shield
>Fallen knight set
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>>172325246
yes, and she has a bunch of dialogue for joining spear of the church/maxing rank in spear of the church and she gives you a slab for killing midir

all of which you miss if you touch m'lady
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>>172312735

>Hold the Door
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Can someone explain what happens to laap?
So I found the purging monument, and pointed him toward there. When I go he isn't there though. What did I do wrong?
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>>172325275
>farron dark
Dart*
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Where can I find the IDs for the DLC? GitHub CE guide hasn't been updated.
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>>172325215
I HAVE A SQUARE SCREEN
NO
FUCKING BULLY
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I was hoping the DLC would have more Sable Church lore...
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>>172325264
Ah, I didn't answer the first question. Midir drops the covenant, and then you just sit around and wait as normal until you pop in.
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So is faith lightening based with sunlight dragon sword spear worth going for now?
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How do I Midir lads? I can't seem to hit his head consistently enough to deal decent damage, and I keep missing because he spazzes all over the camera, plus he twoshots me because I'm in NG+ like a fool. Using Valorheart +5 BTW.
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>>172324432
Yeah, I beat him right after posting that.
It seems like it's best to just let him close the distance on you, rather than trying to follow him around the arena.
>>
How do I do the dragon on the bridge? Just eat two facefuls of fire before I get to do anything?
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Glad that's over

Now I can sit back, relax and watch all the lore fags try to fill in the craters for gaps that is From's complete lack of any ability to make a coherent plot

I hope we get a Solaire is the Worm again
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>>172324880
>tigole
???

anyway i'm trying myself and i am angry
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>+5 60 STR Ledo hammer
>with knight slayer ring
>guy tries to block a hit with medium shield
>mfw
>>
Any anons on that could drop me a relatively new character some winged twin axes?
>>
What happened to Filianore? What are those insect men? Why Gael has a hole on his torso? How no one found the Ringed city earlier? What happened to the pygmies?
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>>172312735
Did you kill Lapp you cunt?

[Spoiler]are the twin door shields that early in the dlc?
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>>172325362
I know what to do with that. Nobody will reach catacombs bonfire.
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>>172325345
I just wanted to get paint for loli :'( forgive me Shira lemme slab
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>>172325391
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>>172325436

>I hope we get a Solaire is the Worm again

That shit was hilarious

>this monster drops said item
>that means it's an NPC from a previous game that used it

How didn't they think this through? Wouldn't it be more likely, that even if that NPC was present in the game, that the monster killed and ate him?
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>>172325139
I died more to the ruin sentinels bridge than I did to Demon Prince
I was expecting Gael to take me hours and hours but the second I switched to a fast weapon he was done in under a half hour
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>>172325473

Twin doors are literally in the first 10-15 mins.
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>>172325440
>slow weapon on Midir
you brought this on yourself
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>>172325456
Ps4 btw
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>>172325450
How much dmg on 60str? 66 worth it?
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>>172325362
I like you, you cheeky motherfucker
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>>172325547
what else am i supposed to use as fucking 60 str
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>>172325372
He's in the catacombs after the dragon.
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>>172325191
Because youre fighting a fucking DRAGON, how many times do you think a swaord the size of a toothpick would have to hit something with the hide of steel before it kills it? God shut the fuck up already.
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>>172325593
Im at 60 STR and got 662 AR, which becomes 712 AR when using the stone buff. I dont reckong the +6 STR will change much though
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>>172325436
>Now I can sit back, relax and watch all the lore fags
This is very productive.
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>>172325631
Exile Greatsword.
>>
Where the fuck is shira? Can't find this bitch anywhere
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>>172325631
Butcher's Knife is my speedy str weapon of choice.
>>
Isn't Splitleaf greatsword meant to be a strength weapon? It seems to scale the best with a sharp gem for some reason.
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>>172325123
>another two down to the wombo combo

Feels like I've found the Rakuyo on Old Hunters launch again. No one is prepared.
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>>172325345
The slab, chime and halberd all drop from killing her in the boxart area
pretty much all you lose is dialogue
What's funny is that Shira actually has more going on in her backstory than the grand finale boss character of the entire souls series does which is pretty fucking pathetic
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>>172325429
Safespot on the left side, run up to him after he breathes fire.
>>
Just beat Gael and i have traversed the wasteland only to find and fuck the shit out of Shira. what do i do now? I know there are four bosses
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>>172325631
Heavy Milwood Axe you retard
>>
How do you get to Midir after fucking him off the bridge?
>>
Where is the body of the angel in the swamp of Earthen Peak ? I wanna collect the stuff there but i can't find the body
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>>172325413
me too. we will never make londor great again.

dlc3
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>>172324107
no he doesn't
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>>172325781
there's a doorway in the elevator shaft near the Gwyn statue. There's an illusory wall in there that takes you to the latest shit dragon fight
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>>172325506
He didn't even fucking use lightning stake
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>>172325813
On the houses. You get there by dropping down from the root that takes you to Zoey.
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>>172325781
DO NOT give the dark soul bllood to the painter. Instead, give it to the firekeeper, only AFTER you give her the fire keeper eyes. And enjoy new ending
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>>172325813
Go towards busty pyro lady area but before you get off the tree root go right onto the roof of some building.
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>>172325761
Okay now how do I actually kill it? I have /40/40 int fai, a +5 Izalith, all sorcery ring, Dark clutch and Blindfold.

My Great Soul Dregs did 100 damage.
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>>172325813

Which angel are you talking about?

There's 2.

One is found below, the other on a roof.

If you're talking about the angel in the swamp itself, where there's mushrooms, it's on the roof. Go straight to the root leading up, the last one in the level, and then go down on one of the roofs and go to the next one.
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>>172325304
what SL/NG you at?
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>>172325627
i'd love to sunbathe her.
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>>172325880
oh anon
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>>172325191
>but why does everything have so much HP in this DLC?

Don't play Bloodborne.


I fucking hated that so many dark souls 3 bosses had too little HP. Vordt is really fun if you gimp yourself, but it's so easy to get insane damage on him.
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>>172324990
>dragonsis completely ignored in this DLC, which is the last one
>dragon form will never be buffed
>dragon form will never be gud
>twinkling stones will always be WORSE than regular ones
WHY?
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>>172325906
I just used the Great Chaos Vestiges on his face. Hug the left little alcove during his main attacks, and run up to get two hits in during his forward fire breath. Just did it with my pryo.
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>>172325747
Fucking Alva and his fuck doll have more going on for them than the grande finale boss and painter combined.
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>golden dual swords got cut
FUCK MY ETERNAL LIFE SENPAIS
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I know shira is on the long set of stairs after the ringed City wall bonfire but I can't find her anywhere
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>>172325928
150 NG+
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>all fun weapons are STR
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>>172325906
Go to the "safe" spot, wait for him to angle himself to breathe fire in your direction, run out in front of him and attack while he's doing so.
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>>172326043
Shes literally at the top of the stairs
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Why did this DLC dry hump DS2 so much instead of answering any lore questions in its own fucking game
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>>172326129
Miyazaki offed himself when he heard Kentaro Miura's hands fell off and he cant make any more Berserk
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>>172326129
I just want to know why they felt the need to make callbacks to Orphan during the Gael fight
It's not like the two are comparable at all, Gael is the equivalent of making Shiva the final boss of DS1
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>beat midir on NG solo melee
>pretty rough fight but scraped through on 4th try
>put down sign to help others
>instant summon almost before I finished writing it
>at least NG+
>doing 300 damage per 2 handed swing of lightning buffed carthus curved sword and the HP bar is barely moving

You can probably reduce the total HP size by 15% or so because the finishing visceral but holy shit. I think that you just have to suck it up on NG+ and beyond and solo that fight, the extra health just makes the fight ridiculously harder. I feel like even a 4 man mage squad would run out of estus before they could even kill it.
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>>172326251
DS3's dev team really wanted their second try at a dark souls to be as good as BB
They did not succeed in any sense but they did try for sure
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>>172326129
Because Miyazaki wanted to cover all his bases.

>Get money from Das2 fags that wanted to see more references to that game.
>Get money by lying to the DaS1 and 3 fags that thought this DLC would actually give an ending the series and some answers.
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>>172326251
You guys are being a bit ridiculous. Gael is a fine end boss for the two DLC packs we got.
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>>172326251
>It's not like the two are comparable at all, Gael is the equivalent of making Shiva the final boss of DS1
You always will bitch about callbacks.
>Soul of Cinder is DS1 callback hurrrr unoriginal shit boss
>muh no name final boss hurrr shit boss
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I killed the crawling pygmy before I fought Gael, does he have any concluding dialogue after you beat Gael?
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>DLC still isn't out for consolefags
End me.
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>>172326120
The door is closed. I don't even get a prompt
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>>172316743
Is Doom 2016 good.
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>>172326430
BECAUSE YOU KILLED HER
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>>172326407
He dies when he crawls far enough, he's meaningless
All the pygmies were meaningless in the long run, the lords especially I had crazy expectations for when I first saw them and their thrones, only to find that there was fucking nothing at the end.
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>>172326409
what
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>>172326358
correct, I went in expecting slutty clothing and I got exactly that
but I also knew that everything else would be dogshit since miyazaki was directing it
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How many slabs this DLC has? And where do I find them?
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>>172326462
If you kill her the door opens.
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>people complaining about characters being callbacks and characters being literal who's at the same time
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>>172326516
An unlimited number. You can pay 60,000 souls at the Purging Monument to respawn the Spear fight, like using an ascetic. You earn a slab every time you complete it.
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>>172326409
It should be out for everyone at this point. It unlocks by time zones, not console.
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>>172326409
I've been playing on ps4 since last night u fucken nerd
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>Gael's cape turns into wings
>He can summon lightning from the sky
What the fuck is this shit ? Why would the Dark Soul give you these abilities ?
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>>172326578
Sweet. Thank you.
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>>172326532
>implying both opinions can't be right
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>>172326409
Yes it is, you need to go find it in the store if you're on XB1
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>>172326532
>boss is a callback to a completely different game not even part of the series
>character means fuck all in the world that they're in
>this is somehow not a valid problem

DS3 was a mistake
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>>172326481
what the fuck why
they could have had him drop a lore bomb at the end and conclude this shit
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where can I find Ledo's great hammer
i've practically found everything else
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>>172326631
because the great souls are basically the infinity stones of lordran
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>Lapp leaves you a Siegbrau

Is Lapp siegward?
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>>172326578
Did you actually try this ? When I defeated the boss a second time, after reviving the Judicator, he didn't drop a Slab anymore, just a Spear Ornament.
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>>172326528
>>172326462
Oh fuck you almost made me panic, I don't want to miss this spear
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thanks anons
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>>172326532
>all the story relevant characters are literal who's
>put in a bunch of callbacks for good measure who all end up being irrelevant to what's going on
sleeping egg lady is the most grievous offense in that regard
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>>172326532
The callbacks are in places that don't matter, not in boss fights. If a single one of the damn bosses could have been even a minor character from established series lore, I'd be ecstatic. Instead its randoms and a DLC only final boss.
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>>172324308
I tried using his sword but it does so little damage. Demons are resistant to fire.
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>>172326631
Because Orphan of Kos had the muffler made out of skin in his second form and DS3 wants to be Bloodborne very badly. Same reason why there were lightning strikes in the second half of the fight.
It's very symbolic if you think about it.
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>>172326694
By killing him
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>>172326728
no, he takes of his helmet, it's not siegward
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>>172312551
Did /bbg/ complain as much about the Old Hunter difficulty?
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>put sign for Midir
>get summoned
>guy burn like 10 estus away in the first 30 seconds
>dies
>adds me on steam, asks me how I can survive 2 consecutive hits
>tell him I have 38 Vigor
>mood changes immediatly
>he asks if I'm in London and could do the Boss for him
>mfw I am in London
>his parents are out and he has pizza
>ask for adress
>get dressed nicely, do my hair, pick my favourite shoes
>get to his home
>he opens
>qt Paki twink
>he told me he didnt know I'm a girl
>"You didn't ask, anon"
>Invites me in, we go to his room
>he's right before the plunging hole to the boss room
>I sit down on his lap
>he holds me in his strong, firm arms
>engange Midir
>his hp slowly drop
>at around 70% he starts playing with my boobs and massages my nipples
>I grind against his crotch an moan lustfully
>when phase 2 starts he slowly starts working towards my snatch and kisses my neck
>Midir is at 40% now and he's about to touch me as he suddenly stops
>"THATS A DICK HOW..."
>"shh anon, Midir is almost down, you don't just simply stop what you started. Now help me concentrate or Shira will not be satisfied with you
>with a whining expression he starts grabbing my rock-hart dick and slowly jerks me off
>Midir is almost down and I'm edging really hard aswell
>"Anon, I'm low on Estus already, I'm afraid you have to help me concentrate even more"
>his sobbing tells me he knows exactly what I mean
>As I keep dodging Midirs raging blows he goes down on me
>I leak precum as his soft lips touch the glans of my girly accessoire
>"A-Almost, anon, I..."
>As I deal the killing blow to the virtual monstrosity I cum in his mouth, releasing a week worth of semen in his throat
>"You said you had pizza, right anon?" I said as he coughes violently
>he leaves the room with tears in his eyes
>I can hear him cry downstairs in the kitchen
>mfw I got hard again
>he finally comes back with a cold slice of pizza
>"Anon, do you want me to help you with Gael aswell?"
>Y-Yes p-please..."
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>patches is actually a swell guy and good friend
>gets his memories back and turns into a dick again

who touched him as a child?
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>>172326771
So there's no unique thing about it like wearing Velstadt to Raime? That's disappointing.
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>>172326839
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>>172326826
no, because Old Hunter had other things going for it.
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>>172314010
People would have complained about that 2bh.
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>>172326532
Shitposters like shitpsots. Some autist even like being dissapointed 24/7.

>I want 1
>check 1
>1 is shit I want 2
>here 2
>It's shit. Why not 1? Give me 1
>check 1
>lol trash. Where is my 2?
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>>172326826
Did you miss how hard /v/ bitched about Ludwig at launch? It was pretty funny.

Also TOH was better than this. I like it but the level design is meh and the Spears boss sucks.
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>>172325836
K thx
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>>172326826
TOH's difficulty wasn't dictated by absurdly high resistances to absolutely everything.
There was bitching about Ludwig and Orphan but not nearly as much, or as unanimous.
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>>172326878
clerics
I don't see how you missed that to be honest
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where do i find the purging monument???
guise?
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>>172326926
I feel like they probably just manned up more.


>>172326982
I missed it.
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>>172326964
shut the fuck up and read any of the four replies before yours
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>>172326826
Yes. I remember Laurence NG+7 stream.
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>>172326826
Old hunters is far more exploitable though. Serrated, fire, bolt, thrust damage all make a very significant difference to your damage output and since BB is all gotta go fast anyway it's easier to stay alive as a lower level.

Meanwhile even highly levelled characters with top gear face bosses in TRC that just eat any sort of attack with huge damage absorption stats, yet still chunk people for 2/3 of their health in one hit.
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>>172326798
where's Ledo?
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>>172326964
It just amazes me how the retards playing mass effect manage to convince themselves its the greatest thing ever, yet when DS3 geta a top tier DLC people have to go through mental gymnastics to hate on it.
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>>172327054
show your humanity
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>>172326839
10/10 pasted into copypasta folder
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>>172327061
>read any of the four replies before yours
Nah. Excuses and double standards. Like always
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>>172325982
Dragonform is just for cosmetic shit. Turn your skin blue. Be the bara or slut dragon with just the dragon head.
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>>172327049
oh shit you're right I forgot about how much he hated them in das1.
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>>172327047
They still had the insane HP that a lot of bloodborne bosses have.


>>172327101
Well I am glad that is it difficult 2bh. I even add Dried Finger for a even stronger "hurt me more" experience.
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>>172325982
Fuck off furfag.
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>>172315131

Nah, Orphan isn't harder.

I just beat him the other week on NG+ at around level 100. The quick dodges to get behind him and avoid his attacks make it easy.

NG Gael at level 120 is a harder fight.
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>>172327132
Haha faggot you suck at finding ladders
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>>172327195
0/10, you're not even trying
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So what the fuck is Londor?
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>>172325464
She was the lid on top of the seal that was the Darksign. Waking her up broke the seal which completely fucked up the flow of time even worse than it was before.

They're locusts. The Abyss eating away at you is actually tiny locusts gnawing on your flesh, and the Abyss created bigger locusts to try and spread it's word to the Pygmies but as soon as the locusts saw light they started to eat everything in sight.

Gael has been hunting the Pygmy Lords ever since we finished the first DLC, and with Filianore awakened and dead and time gone to shit, he's been hunting and eating the Pygmy Lords for an eternity, millions of times the length of the entirety of the series before this point. A long ass time. He needed Pygmy blood to use for the painting, but their blood was dry so he had to take the Dark Soul himself to make his blood into pigment, but by the time we find him he's been chasing the Pygmy Lords around the ashen world for untold millennia, and the hole is the manifestation of all the Dark that has built up within him. Basically all the Humanity in the world except yours has ended up inside him.

Time shenanigans, part of the seal meant it would only appear at the beginning and end of the Age of Fire and was locked away for the rest of time.

The Ringed City eventually fell to the Abyss and the Locusts, and the Pygmies are pretty much all dead save for the few we meet and that Gael ate. Pygmy is just another word for what humans and gods were before finding Souls, and the gods called the inhabitants of The Ringed City pygmies as a derogatory term. The Pygmies in the DLC are really just humans with higher than average humanity on account of being direct descendants of the Furtive Pygmy like our DaS1 character and the city being sealed so no race mixing and dilution could happen.
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>>172327280
Home of the Sable Church
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>>172327183
i forgot where the statues were
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>>172327047
>TOH's difficulty wasn't dictated by absurdly high resistances to absolutely everything.
KEK.
NG+ bosses are damage sponges
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>>172327256
p-please
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>stone humped hag is now dead
>an angel is flying above her
What the fuck happened ? Also this Angel is not aggressive unless you shoot arrows at it.
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>>172327251
>NG Gael at level 120 is a harder fight.
>120
On what planet
Maybe if you force yourself to use a greatsword or a UGS but even that is pushing it.
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>>172327280
whatever memehacki needs it to be
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>>172327218
>dragons will never get to wear armor
>armor is now amazing with the latest patch
>the "dragon weapon" and "dragon shields" literally do nothing special for dragons
>the head still bugs out on the body in soul mode
>the stone skills are still garbage
I hate everything...
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>>172327357
pilgrims either turn into butterflies or angels
It's the one part of existing canon that was relevant in this DLC
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>just make it to Gael
>"Holy shit they really Guts'd it up, this is great!"
>everyone on /v/ apparently hates it
You guys are so fucking weird. Having a mad hollow be your final foe and a fight over the Dark Soul is perfect.
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>>172327328
As soon as you enter the big lake thing where there's a judicator in the middle
Take a sharp left and you'll find 3 clerics
There's a ladder just before them
Climb ladder and go right
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>>172327460
Hey, I like it. I still haven't beat him yet, been mostly enthralled with being the Spear of the Church, but he's neat.
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>>172327460
I thought it was a great final boss. Good difficulty as well.
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>>172327460
>muh Berserk references
There has to be a point where this stops being an excuse for everything
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>>172327056
Yeah, it was a treat. Many people were fighting Ludwig at NG+ and were bitching about his health and damage.
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>>172327460
>>172327524
Good = bad
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this is pretty dumb desu
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>>172327460
>fighting an old ass paint delivery man for the dark soul which in the end wasn't necessary at all is a good conclusion to the series
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>>172327575
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>>172327489
i already went there and went up to the watchtower thing (ages ago even) but Ledo won't invade
i've already killed all the DLC bosses, am I screwed?
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These twin demons are retarded, like phase 2 of the Friede fight. It's easy enough to get one alone, but then you can't see the other one and it does long range attacks that you can't see and then appears right behind you.
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>>172327561
If it was a shit fight, sure. But Gael is from the previous DLC and the battle is fantastic.
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So what is this ranged cheese I hear about Gael?
I'm a dickass wizard so I die in literally 2 hits. You can't get a spell off in phase 1 because there is literally only a 0.5 second pause between attacks.
Phase 2 is free hits but "phase 3" when the dark soul shit explodes out of him and he gets more aggressive it's good bye to any casting again.
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>>172327638
>wasn't necessary at all
Of course it was
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>Dark Souls 3 has no lore of its own, it's too dependent on previous games
>REEEEEE WHY AREN'T THERE MORE RETURNING CHARACTERS IN THE DLC

WHAT DO YOU WANT
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I need an invasion build that can 2v1
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>>172327671
For fucks sake yeah dude
You can't be invaded if the area boss is dead
How new are you
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>>172327636
Occasionally I have a good fight, but most of them aren't prepared for it. A lot of these people I think are just used to either a) having gank squads with them to go through content or b) never PvP'd a day in their life.
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>>172327638
We have Soul of Cinder, what more do you fucking want?

HURRRR WHERES MY FIGHT AGAINST KAATHE
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>>172327738
i thought NPC invasions would follow different rules
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>>172327638
At least you can't cry about recycle/DS1 callbacks/ copypaste/unoriginal/muh meme DS1 lore/whatewer
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Can someone fill me in on a good lvl 100 build? Demon Princes moves are 1shotting me.
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>>172327460
Just ignore /v/, I stopped going there for this same reason. No matter what they will shit on something, because they have more fun shitposting than playing games. Also
>those people that were saying Gael did no damage before release and that Midir would be the only good fight
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>>172327460

I think it's great, anon. Moves, the very different phases for what accounts to the same guy, and the difficulty is around is pretty good; not easy like SOC, but not impossible.

It's much better than SOC.
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Is there a Havel +3? I saw people talking about it. Where is it?
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>>172324249

Kill Midir.
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>>172327828
I feel like I'm doing something wrong against Midir, he barely takes damage. Is he weak to lightning?
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>>172327703
Gael had the pigments all along, there was no reason to fight
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>>172327818
Black knight weapons do a lot of damage to them

Dont be that guy who uses only 27 vig
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>>172327818
Demon Prince doesn't even hit me that hard and I only have 30 vig

you wearing a clutch ring and prisoner's chain or something
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Holy fuck this dlc is 10/10 for me.

>awesome as fuck doubledoors with lockdown
>invading at archer spam courtyard
>more cosplay options for my 3 Patches builds
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>>172327818
closer to 120 will get you a much more complete build if you are struggling.

>>172327838
after you fight leod you drop down a bunch of cliffs, it's on one of them.
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What happens if I tell the NPC outside of the ringed city if I serve the gods or not?
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>>172327838
oh hey i literally just picked that up

it's down the cliff staircase near ledo invasion
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>I want slut armor from DS2 in DS3
>check some DLC
>fucking shitty DS2 callbacks I hate DS2 and slut armor
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>>172327707
DS3 had to conclude the series with this DLC. It's a different story from what could've been expected from AoA, which did a pretty poor job with its lore anyway.

Not only that, but the original material in Ringed City is fairly shitty. There's barely any story whatsoever, and the pivotal characters have next to no explanation for anything, especially Fillianore which has to be the most incoherent mess of a character in the entire series.
They even fucking used "unknown origin" in an item description again, triggered the fuck out of me.
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>>172323278
>get invaded by an invisible mememaker
>fight for a bit on the branches
>he runs off towards the """angel"""
>seed for the hell of it
>purplebro actually waits and draws fire letting me cross safely
GODSPEED, INVISIBLE PURPLEBRO OF COOPERATION
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I shall partake
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>>172327970
>>172327989
Thanks
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>>172327312
The seal was keeping the ringed city "locked" in spacetime, keeping enough fire alive (seal of fire) to prevent space and time degenerating entirely. When you awaken her, the seal is broken and the city joins everyone else in being utterly skullfucked by the death of fire, hence the wasteland. It wasn't the Darksign.
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Jesus, you NEVER hear about the Dark Soul outside of the intro of the first game, now literally every other word is the Dark Souls III: The Ringed City (tm). This is the most blatant fan service ever and totally not in the style of how everything else has been. There's NO subtlety. Who directed this shit?

Meanwhile

We did get a lot of closure. Primordial Serpents were apparently important, we now know their appearance, and have a reasonable explanation for why they died: Midir likely killed them.

The Ringed City is extremely likely to be Londor. Londor and the Dreg Heap are described in almost identical terms, and the pygmies are always looked down upon. In addition, it's called a place for thieves and lowlives, meanwhile Dreg Heap has patches and all the little hooded faggots. In addition, all of the statues depicting the people with elongated necks holding the heavy rings on their backs and the turtle people everywhere.

The whole thing seems to be located in the Abyss/at the brink of the Abyss, with all the locusts and such and the Dark and Deep crystals from all the mobs. So we do experience it finally.

Way of White is pretty much confirmed to be a Londor thing.

Angels just seem to be projected spells and not really entities themselves.
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>People genuinely thinking that Ashes of Ariandel was better than The Ringed City
Your taste is objectively shit my friends
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>Gael with 26 Vigor and 7 Vitality

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Haven't fought him yet, but Gael is definitely easier than Nameless King and Sister Friede, right?
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>can get favor +3 in NG before even killing any DLC bosses
YESSSS
...there's a life +4 too, r-right?
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So how do I avoid Demon Prince's meteor storm?

Pretty much one-shots me every time
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My thumbs hurt guys
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I can still get Ledo's Great Hammer if I'm at Gael, right?
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>>172328105
Is it an Illusion? Did you fuck up touching the egg? What was that egg to begin with? Could you get the blood without awakening her?
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>>172328116
>we know their appearance

No we don't. Those statues don't necessarily mean anything, except that's what the humans in lore think they look like. Throughout history, humans have some weird fetish with making statues of weird shit with dog bodies, especially in japan, so who fucking knows. Could be a misnomer.
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>>172328116
>The Ringed City is extremely likely to be Londor
stopped reading this headcanon right there
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who's that japanese guy who has god pyro skill
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so.. can we finally farm/buy slabs or did FROM rob us again??
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>>172327929
>>172327934
Yikes that's probably it, I have 17 Vigor. What is a good amount to have? I haven't played since the week DS3 came out so I don't remember much numbers wise.

>>172327970
>closer to 120 will get you a much more complete build if you are struggling.
I have enough souls and stuff to get to 120 probably. What would be some good stats to get as a base?
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>>172328192
yeah, he's close to nameless king in terms of difficulty but is far outpaced by friede
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>stands still infront of you
>swings parry fist
>psssh
>gets stabbed in the face
>swings again
>nuthin personell
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>>172328248
make him laser prince instead. the laser is super easy to dodge
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>>172328248
you can kill the other demon first, or just walk up and hit him while he's summoning the big orb
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>>172328136
Ashes of Memes has far too little in it for anything to be worse than it. It will always remain the worst souls DLC.

Which ironically enough is one of Ringed City's saving graces. You have to compare it to that, which can make it seem a bit better than it actually is.
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>>172328272
It's not an illusion, it is very real.

>>172328116
>Midir killed the serpents
source
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>>172328457
that depends on what build you want and to a lesser extent what starting class you have. You can make anything work at level 120 though.
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>>172328248
literally just hit him
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So how good new katana?
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Can I pick this old dude up and carry him?
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Killed Gael
What now ?
I gave the Blood to the girl in Painted World
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>>172328457
Holy shit dude
27 is bare minimum. Some people will tell you to not pass 39, others will tell you to not pass 44. You should at least be in the mid thirties. Google "dark souls caps viewer".
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>>172328440
there's a pseudo bonfire ascetic system just for the sake of farming slabs
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>>172325880
Does this actually do anything? Or is possible?
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>>172328457
>I have 17 Vigor.
yikes dude
get that shit up to 35 at the very least, 40 if you're going for sl120
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Where is this fucker's mother, I am sick of Normandy
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>>172328457
anything lower than 27 vig is retarded but don't go more then 40
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Nothin' personnel churchgoers. Eleven PvErs (and only one gank squad) stomped into the ground in the name of the Princess. They shall not harm her.
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>>172328614
resetting the boss wont give you ininite slabs, stop spreading misinformation retard
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god none ugs pvpers are fucking no skill garbage kids
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>>172328653
up the root left onto a roof you fucking brind mongoloid
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>>172328608
You're done. Please look forward to Namco Bandai's Dark Souls IV developed by Tales Studio in 2019
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>>172328608
That's it. There's nothing else.
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>2handed dark sword still hits as hard as a great weapon

nice job from
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>>172328736
I'm more looking forward to Dark Souls Stories by Telltale Games tbqh famalamdingdong
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SUCK MEEEEEEEEEE
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I'm about to replay DS3 with the DLC and went with a pure pyro build the first time around for PvE.

What would you guys recommend for a melee build this time around; especially with the new items?
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>>172328516
Not him, but you see many primordial serpents in the dark ending of DaS1, who side with Kaathe. That means Frampt was likely a traitor to the primordial serpents. He's going off of something shira said, that Midir used to fight the denizens of the dark, but it's a bit of a logic leap to assume that he killed the snakes.
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>>172328663
Paired UGS is so fun, wish they would give it a little more STR scaling though.
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is power stance one of the best things in ds2?
If I play ds2 I should use power stance or it was a wasted playthrough right?
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>demon prince

Welp, it was good til it lasted. I can't really see myself ever beating this guy.
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>>172328663
Doing Gods's work
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>>172328726
I had no idea you could get on that roof, and I had already killed the Demon Prince.
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BEAT DEMON PRINCE
HIS ATTACKS KILL ME IN ONE HIT
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>>172328872
would you like some assistance
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>Quit twin demon fight
>Reload game and I randomly die

what the fuck? I wasn't taking any damage when I turned the game off.
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old mate forgot his obscuring ring

avelyn is just unfair to UGS users, they actually cannot hit you and if they ever attack they spread their anus wide open to receive three bolts
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Is Midir weak to lightning or what? I'm doing shit damage with fire.
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>>172328821
Just use a straight sword of some kind, nothing has really changed
You're actually better off playing a pyro for the final boss of the series because at least that way you're doing something other than spamming R1 for 100 damage at a time for 10 minutes
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>Follow the old decapitated dude all the way to the bonfire
>He just dies and doesn't drop anything
Lame
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guys how do I kill the giant summoner? can't even hit him without getting pierced by million arrows
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>>172328040
Fillianore was handed to the humans as a gesture of goodwill by Gwyn and now uses her power to maintain a seal around the city so that it does not fall into an ashen wasteland along with the rest of the world at the end of fire. When you wake her up the spell breaks and everything is destroyed as time literally catches up to the city. Don't tell me that you're a dumb Velkafag
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>>172328834
But don't they specifically say in the ending that both Kaathe AND Frampt will serve you? It always felt to me like they were plotting against each other but would concede to the other no matter who won, though Kaathe continuing on with his bullshit in 3 makes me think that Frampt just gave in easy, or that it's all just a game to them and that they decide to get involved if they're bored or something and there's no bad blood between the two.
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Are DS1 faith builds any good? I have one in DS2, SoFS and it is pretty nice for co-op, but other than that it's maybe just okay.
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is anyone in england playing the dlc yet i still can't access it
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>>172328973
this crossbow is in das2 right? I was thinking about switching to it but I have like 600 arrows I can use
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How do I leave Firelink Shrine? I killed the Master and everything else, picked up all the items.. I cant find the way out of here though, Ive gone around the whole place.
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>>172329043
you don't NEED to kill him
theres a perfectly good staircase right there
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>>172312735
>lindybeige gets put on the dev team
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>>172328937
Thanks but I stopped playing for now, I need to rest.

To think that I was cheering for having defeated both demons at the same time so that the last one couldn't get a power up.
I'm fucking pathetic.
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>>172329097
You teleport using the Bonfire.
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>>172329097
bonefire warp my dude
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I haven't played yet but I've seen the angel shoot his lasers from some videos

how do you dodge em or do you just have to run from cover to cover
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>>172329098
where? is it near him? I can't have time to see shit I need to run there guide me
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>>172329052
>and now uses her power to maintain a seal around the city so that it does not fall into an ashen wasteland along with the rest of the world at the end of fire
You see, the core of the problem is that this very important part is something you completely made up on your own. There's not a thing that tells us what waking her up is actually doing other than revealing the "deceit".
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>>172329159
chin up lad, you'll get them later
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>>172329172
>>172329179
Oh jeez thanks
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>>172329172
>>172329179
why would they do this
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Midir just fucking oneshot me with a claw swipe. Does he do dark damage?
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>>172329096
avelyn has far more utility in pvp. You can punish people whiffing big weapon, you can fake out people fishing for parries, chip away at people trying to heal and so on.

I haven't focused much on bows but I don't think they have any real solid utility in pvp. They are fun to use though.
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>>172328861
dual wield cestus power stance was one of the most fun things I ever did in the entire franchise, that's all I can say about it.
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>tfw can't decide what kind of character I want to take into the DLC

Do I take my first character?

Do I take a fresh one?

Do I take my favorite character?

Do I take my meme character?

What the fuck do I do
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>>172328834
Well SOMETHING had to kill them, may as well be the ancient dragon who ate darkness creatures for a living. The Serpents were always just weaker imitation dragons anyway
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>>172312735
>unrealistic double door weapon
>no SUPER Velka with summonable Pain of Ages


Fucking z-team
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>>172329296
The firekeeper tells you to use it. I did the same thing though.
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>>172328934
why do you have no vigor, no armour, clutch rings equipped or playing in NG++etc
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>>172329251
to his right
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>>172326826
No it's mostly just shitters here. People complaining about high HP is laughable. DS3 bosses in general had such small HP pool and FROM finally fixed and now shitters in these threads can't stop whining.
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>>172329262
>You see, the core of the problem is that this very important part is something you completely made up on your own
You literally watch it happen as soon as you touch her, you jackass, how did you get this far into the game while being blind?
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Can I resurrect Ludleth somehow? I forgot to give him transposing kiln and now he's roasted.
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>>172329052
Source? Don't tell me "the cinematics", you can literally interpret anything from that
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>Darkeater Midir
I regret buying this DLC
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Can someone tell me how I get to this item whatever it is?
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>>172329057
>frampt & kaathe are the souls equivalent of the brothers from trading places
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>>172329521
Bigger community I guess.
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>>172329478
thanks I killed him
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>>172329357
the last number of this post will decide for you anon
1-3 first
4-6 fresh
7-9 meme
0 favorite
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>>172329378
Level 80, 30 vig, 34% physical absorption and 16% fire absorption. Not in NG+.

I can do Below and THE PAIN just fine but pretty much a single attack from big boy decimates me.
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>>172327460

The Dark Soul is entirely irrelevant to the series until the last DLC of the last game, and only because some literal who that was JUST INTRODUCED is looking for it just because he needs paint. Instead of lore being attached to the soul when we get it, it's just some unimportant stuff about Gael that doesn't really say anything. And you transpose it for some very anti-climactic stuff, specifically related to Gael.

It's very blah.
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>Angel hide and seek
>Peekaboo archers

It feels like they went out their way to make the most tedious, obnoxious segments in the entire series
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>>172329359
Why does something have to kill them? Their absence does not imply their demise.
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I really like Gael so far.
He's like Artorias on steroids.
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So what we know about Fillianore
>She's Gwyn's daughter who was given the the pygmies
>she wasn't really sleeping and was actually dead
>waking her up teleports you to another dimension (maybe further in time?) where the city is totally buried and you can now see Lothric Castle and Anor Londo in the distance

Is that it? Was expecting a lot more desu
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how are the stats on a maxed ledo's hammer?
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>>172329665
>fresh
but what the fuck kind of character do I make now this was the worst roll
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Anyone else feel unsatisfied with the DLC? it's fun but I think I was hoping for a lot more in terms of lore.
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>>172328581
>>172328609
>>172328623
>>172328654
Thanks! I was thinking of trying out a faith/strength build, what minimum stats would I need for some of the weapons/spells to go along with that?
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>>172329245
Cover. People are getting angry because they try just sprinting which works in every other game but these guys kill you in a few seconds flat if you do that, you need to take it slow with them.
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Any good fightclub spots in the DLC?
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>niggers talk shit about going high level into dlc
>mfw can't even pass butterflies without 40 vgr + ember
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>>172329829
idk
if i had that roll chart that chooses based on your post number i'd post it
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>>172329527
>Making shit up from a vague cutscene
Hey Vaati
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>>172329561
there appears to be a door way you go thru on the other side.
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Any of you guys has a Symbol of Avarice to spare? I'm on PC. I can trade with ringed knight chest piece or Demon's Scar, if it is of your interest.
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>>172329561
the area where you first meet midir, hug the right wall
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>>172329361
>Pain of Ages
I remember that list I'm the one who wrote it.
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>faggot does nothing but parry spam me all the time
>adds me afterwards

Fucking pathetic
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>>172329735
You literally roll and then you take cover.
The thingys you have to kill aren't even hard to find if you actually explore the level.
The angel turns around and stops firing at you if you run up the small hill beneath the big vines. After that you can jump down and head up the vine to get to the larvae or whatever it is
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>>172328341

Nigga, it's HEAVILY implied.
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>>172329527
anon, you are literally making up the part about her being used as a seal. You are making up the part where she has the power to be a seal. And also ignoring how the egg has absolutely no explanation whatsoever.

They throw us into boxart land with no rhyme or reason. Gael already being there, and the pygmy thrones being where they are after everything is buried makes even less sense. You are going to lengths to pretend that this makes sense by adding your own ideas to the story. Please stop. It's not healthy.
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>>172323000
Harald set Drops from the fat guys. Its just Ultra rare
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>>172330015
accept it and post his salt
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>it's a "the host dies" episode
>it's a "the host summons more than 1 phantom" episode
>it's a "the host dies before you even make it down the hole" episode
>it's a "the host doesn't understand that there's a second phase and just starts bowing once the first two demons are dead" episode
>it's a "the host summons gael even though gael is a useless cunt" episode

As you can tell, I've been co-oping this boss all day and not a single host has managed to survive
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>>172329908
Anyone have this?
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>>172329984
I have a spare one, but i'm to lazy to log on.
>tfw killed about 20 K***hts without a single drop
>>172330107
I got the chest from my second one.
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>>172330109
>>it's a "the host summons gael even though gael is a useless cunt" episode
but the NPC summons for that fight dont actually suck
they don't win it for you like tarkus, either
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>>172330109
Some of the hosts are probably in this thread right now.
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>>172330158
I got leggings too. Pls help.
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>>172329796
We know Kaathe is dead since Yuria's JP dialogue when you kill her before marrying Anri has her apologising to Kaathe for not completing his 'dying wish'. The Nip word used has heavy connotations referring to death compared to other words that just mean wish but without the death stuff, though they had to choose that one phrasing specifically. It was translated as just 'wish' in English though. The other serpents could be fine for all we know however.
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>>172330235
gael just stands about triggering certain boss moves
he does nothing
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>>172328834

The denizens of the Ringed City must have known what they looked like because we go down the hole that they appeared from and it opens up to the entire city.

In addition in the room that you need to access Midir you see a bunch of Primordial Serpent statues with a long hole behind the altar leading to the deepest recesses in the game, likely the Abyss. I'm willing to put money they suck their necks through there.
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>>172330052
Heavily implied by how the pygmies are absolutely nothing like the other hollows, or heavily implied by how there isn't a single pilgrim or literally anything other than the mark of avowal in sight? Or is it heavily implied by how it has a completely different name and purpose in the lore?
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>faggot host and his sunfucker pyrofag friend taunting me
>stunlock him with giant fuck you hammer of DLC
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What does this mean?
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>>172330332
he only does shit when you're worthy, so you might just suck
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>>172329361

Gael is basically the Pain of Ages, though. He's basically got an executioner sword and is empowered by all of the deaths he's caused. All his special effects have faces, including his physical cape.
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>>172330010
I'm fucking blind, thanks.
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>>172329851
40 or 66 str

40 is the basic str cap, 60 is the next one, but having 66 lets you reach 99 str while twohanding your weapon (twohanding multiplies by 1.5). The last 6 levels are as effective as the pre-40 levels, so if you're going past 40 go big or go home. For low level builds use 26 str (27 gives you 40.5 while twohanding, but it gets rounded down).

16 dex lets you use the exile CGS and the splitleaf halb (which is the first weapon in the dlc), both of which are great strength weapons. Greathammers are also pretty fun and dont require dex.

Having just 15 faith for replenishment is really good for duels; a lot of people will just go to 10 faith, equip the priestess ring to go up to 15, cast replenishment, then replace the priestess with the sun princess ring for more regen. You can also infuse your offhanded tool with a blessed gem for more HP regen.

High faith is okay as well, but block heals are too hard to get off in a bossfight and you have estus anyway. Consider DMB/lightning blade and the 35 faith regen miracle.
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>>172330450
You go into the swamp and spam Chameleon until you become a Hunanity Sprite from DaS1 then walk back to the plaque and then magic.
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>>172330450
chameleon
>>
http://gematsu.com/2017/03/dark-souls-iii-director-not-concerned-whether-not-next-game-resembles-dark-souls

Now we know why we ended up with this DLC
Mitsubishi is so fucking done with souls, and has been working on several games, not just one other like usual, while this was being made.
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Where are my bonfire ascetics From?
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>if you bring Ardo back to life you're still not allowed to summon people for it

everything about this system is retarded
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>>172315249
>unpredictable
there are aoe indicators on the floor you fucking moron
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>>172330590
>it really was just an obligation
fuck
We didn't deserve this. Bloodborne was a mistake
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Who /buyersremorse/ here
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>>172330713
Bloodborne was the magnum opus. We shall never see another of its like again.
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I honestly kind of like how've weirdly detached this DLC feels from everything else on some bizarre esoteric level. Sure I'm disappointed but deep down I knew it would end in such a way. Everything about the plot and progression feels fucking surreal.
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>>172330590
correct em if I'm wrong but weren't FROm at one point essentially working on Das2, Das3 and BB all at the same time?
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>>172312551
Whats the recommended level for dlc 2?
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>>172330401

Nigga, the Pilgrims are LITERALLY everywhere. All of the turtle people that you had to kill with the same backs and elongated necks? The statues everywhere showing hollows in basically the same wrappings as the Londor pilgrims holding those heavy rings on they're backs and ALSO with elongated necks? The fact that everything associated with Londor, even down to the insects are everywhere? The fact that the Ringed City is not actually a fucking name? At the very least Londor is a sub-section of the Ringed City.
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>>172330332
I beat it earlier on NG+2 using a base stats dragonslayer swordspear. They did most of the work, other than being a useless piece of shit. I expected for them to die and to fight him with 3x HP with my Greatsword, but honestly I don't think I was even needed in that fight.
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>>172330713
>that moment when you realize that Shadows of Yharnam was actually a better boss fight than Abyss Watchers, only with worse music and enemy design minus the giant snakes
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So everything was all a painting?
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>>172330749
Only autists.
Gael is probably the best boss fight in any souls game so far.
Midir is literally kalameet tier.
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>>172330575
>>172330579
thanks m80s
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>>172330867
I did it at 80, but 100+ would be my recommendation. Honestly, I'd say just do it at whatever level you happen to be after clearing the game.
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>>172330867
Id reccomend 100 but From unironically reccomends 125 for NG
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>Midir
send help
this cunt is impossible
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>>172328248
Same shit happened to me
Stagger him out of it
They'll fall down to you with shit tracking
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Do you miss out on anything in the DLC by not using summons?
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>>172330891

>The mural artwork in the Ariandel room was Shadows of Yharnam
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>>172330905
Gael is above average
His steroids design looks dumb as fuck and his first phase was a mistake
The music and bloodborne references carry the fight until it actually gets fun
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Can anyone help me with Midir ?
Whoever designed that boss should be put down. It has shittons of HP and Armor, yet very little attack window
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Does anyone just not use a shield? I don't do it for a particular challenge. I just find medium shields don't really have much effect against bigger enemies and using a greatshield is a pretty big stat and weight investment and even then most bosses have attacks you really should dodge rather than try to tank. In prior souls games I always had a shield no matter what.
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>>172331040
Are you kidding? he has a larger attack window than all of the other bosses in the game, and his head is the easiest to hit out of all of the dragons in the souls series. Stop being a safe-playing baby and be aggressive. Sprint. Dodge.
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>>172331040
Forgot to add;
SL75 PW: dsg
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>>172331073
Ever since Bloodborne made me realize shields are literally obsolete
Yes
In my 500hrs of ds3, never used a shield
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>>172331040
it doesn't actually have a large pool of attacks, try to learn them. The fight is harder with summons, his head flails around everywhere and is harder to hit and he gets eve more fucking hp. How many damage are you doing per swing?
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>>172330876
You better not be an actual Ornstein cosplay
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>>172330876
Second playthrough I also summoned both, they did suprisingly good. I also liked the fact that on my 3rd I killed the other demon first and the boss got a new moveset depending on who is left alive last
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>>172331073
Yeah, I've made about 10 character in DaS3 so far, none use shields. Using FUGS is pretty good though, since it has high defenses and stability. It was pretty fun ignoring the Midir flame bridge by blocking his fire with a sword.
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>>172331073

Yeah, I did everything except Midir with the Moonlight Greatsword and the Aquamarine Dagger. I haven't had the chance to fight Midir yet.
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I want to use 2 swords at once but it makes me feel like a shitty edgy faggot. what do I do guys?
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>dried finger + police rune
Do it right now. Maximum thrill
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Why was Gael's boss arena so big
couldn't they have just moved the thrones over by the castles, shrunk it a bit and made it not only look better but not allow for a situation where Gael has to cross the whole map trying to get to you while occasionally having a seizure on the slops
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>>172328663
>Quality shitter bragging about pvx

kek
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>teleport around the map with iframes, nofall and noclip
>forget to turn off iframes later when I get summoned for church
>didn't notice it until 2 fights later
I'm a fucking retard
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any Gael strats on NG+7? SL120

I tired a bunch of shit but right now trying 50 points into VIT, wearing full smoughs, and using garg flame spear. All I do is walk backwards and poke him once he's in range. It works but it literally takes me 10 minutes to get to get him to 50% health.

I can take 3 hits with 50 vit full smoughs, before that he did 60% health every hit, and I have fucking 1801 health.
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>>172331073
I run my first run through a souls game as a greatshield user, so I can learn enemy movement. My builds past tend to not use shields.

>>172331237
Nope, I just love his armor. Shit's sexy. That character's female as well.

>>172331242
Man, they killed them before I could even learn the boss' moveset. Shit was stupid. They're not quite rape trains, but they're very effective. Gael was dodging through attacks like crazy.
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>>172331315
Just do it anyway, the feeling goes away. I was cursed with weapon autism, and couldn't stop making "realistic" builds and generic soldiers. I made up my mind to be edgy and make a build for the dual UGS, and I'm loving it.
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I think I'm going to skip Midir completely
He doesn't seem that difficult at all but I have 0 tolerance for dragon fights with trash camera control by now
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>>172331073
Yes, using a shield is actually bad it's sad but it's true you're always better off rolling
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>>172331441
what armour to wear and what stats to max?
playing ds2
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>>172330905
Kalameet doesn't have bullshit NG+ stats
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>>172331338

I thought it as great. Gets the Barren Wasteland of Completely Fucked across pretty well. I didn't expect them to make such a vast expanse of nothing.
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Is it just me or are people disconnecting immediately when you invade them as a Spear?
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>>172331341
Actually just a roleplaying faggot.

It can be rough doing Spear. Ran into a few ganksquads. What is even the point of summoning on Spear anyways? It's piss easy to begin with if you play aggressively.
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>>172331510
They stuffed the final boss fight of the whole series into the lower lefthand corner of that map. Shit was stupid desu, that wouldn't be passable for a crummy optional fight in a base game, let alone for what that fight was.
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>>172331605

They're probably quitting out. This Covenant is a scrub squisher.
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bravo riceniggers
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>>172331605
plenty of solaires disconnecting
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>>172331648

Come on, man. There's a lot to complain about that From does, but that's really nitpicky.
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>>172330987
Really? So from supports 125 meta?

>>172330970
Im 80
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>>172331707
Rice Humans strike again.
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What color is the new covenant phantoms? Yellow?
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>>172312551
any senpai got ds2 non-scholar cheat table
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>>172331850
Same as Farron and Aldrich phantoms.
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>>172331707

He's after our Dark Souls III: The Ringed City (tm)
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>>172331073
I always used a shield in DS1, it's godly for the single player content in my opinion, you can get the Hollow shield drop from the first Hollows and you can use this for the whole game. I tried doing this in DS2 in my first playthrough, but eventually I realized that in DS2 it's just simply easier to invest a bit in ADP and roll everything, I rolled pretty much everything too.
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Can the War Banner be buffed?
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>>172331486


.t "I haven't fought Midir yet"
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>>172331001
ya gotta hit im in the head
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>>172331739
Not every design complaint is a nitpick. It's a pretty huge problem. Just like the Old monk rehash suffers greatly from taking place in a DS2 tier room.
It's like the trigger for Gwyn being in that offshoot to the right of the Kiln that doesn't actually go anywhere, or having the player fight Real Allant in the broken pillar maze behind the archstone (though that would be pretty hilarious). What if you fought Quelaag out in the swamp instead of in her boss room? How shitty would that be?
The game even teleports you back to the circle in the corner for phase 2. It's lazy, it's glaring. It looks like crap.
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Is the dragonslayer's axe still the best SL1 option with the new infusions?
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also where is the way through this shit?
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>make cool boss
>outfit unavailable
>catalyst unavailable
First Pursuer and Now this Literal trash game
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Can I get a quick rundown of every titanite slab in the DLC?
Also to whoever is saying you can farm slabs from the Spear of the Church fight, you're full of shit.
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The only proper weapon to kill a dragon
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>>172332228
>ressurect boss
>win again
>get another slab
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Nah fuck this game, i'm done with this faggot dragon Midis

Gotta play DaS2, it has cool dragons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAVCkVclNR4
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>>172332371
I still hate Sinh and Ancient Dragon more than anything else in the world
Midir does suck though
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>>172332439
>midir sucks
casual confirmed
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>>172332203
you should be able to kill one of them. Before you face the titty-pyromancer, there should be some rooftop you could drop. After you drop, go up through the root and kill the body
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>>172332352
I just did that, it didn't work. I only got a spear ornament
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>>172331336
The ash pile you drop into right before the bonfire that leads to the angel/thralls is deep enough to completely hide in when you stretch out, you could hide there adn just watching bloobs duke it out with invaders. Not sure if the ash pile is in the earthen peak area or the one before though.
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>>172331073
Shields in ds1 were way more powerful.

Now bosses can easily break your guard in a single hit or two and many if not all have grab attacks
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>>172332225
You can get its hat, and the rest is basically Karla's set.
As far catalyst, do you mean that crystal ball? I shouldn't have to go over why that would be a problem.
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>>172332371
I liked Sinh but the ancient dragon was the dumbest fight ever
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How do I into fighting Washing Pole faggots?
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Hello dearest anons
Would anyone be willing to drop me embers on ps4?
I would be eternally grateful
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Is the laser bat supposed to not take any damage?
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I feel like the Silver Knight Weapons got reworked and spiritually replaced with the Ringed Knight Weapons
And Im okay with that
>Longsword with cool elemental buff
>Spear with cool elemental buffs
>And Dual UGS
>And Ledo's Hammer
The only thing lost was the fashion and having a dex long sword
And Ledo's Armor
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>>172332591
Just make it a two handed catalyst what's the problem?
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>>172332680
How much, where, and when.
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>>172332613

Greatshield is like raping them in the ass with a huge nigger dick.
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>>172332049
no fucking shit
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>>172332768
As much as you like anon
I'm at a whopping zero
Whenever you're free and at the high wall
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>>172332715
Animations. Do you think they get pulled out of a magic fairy's ass or something?
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>>172312551
Is aquamarine dagger the best sidearm for a pure sorcerer? Seems to require very little stats and weight and it looks cool as shit.
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>>172332879

I used it to kill Gael without a shield, so yeah. Hits hard, fast as shit, and the combo mixup is ridiculous.
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>>172332854
Alright I'll red sign you with the pass "succthedicc" on the highwall. Just figuring out which character has the most to give you, then I'll be over.
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What's the most fun STR weapon in the DLC?
Which is the most useful/cancer in PVP?
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>>172333002
That password doesn't fit
Are you hurting my feelings anon?
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>>172333083
It doesn't? Well shit, let's go with "fuccboi" then. I really am coming though.
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>>172333053

Frayed Blade is cancer right now just by sheer virtue of how many people are using it. Str weapon is either RKLS or RKPGS
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>>172333134
Well shit, thanks a million dude
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I don't understand how they could hype up the painting and the dark soul pigment so much, and then not have it affect the base game or the endings. It completely feels like there's something missing.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I STILL CAN'T ACCESS THE FUCKING DLC
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>>172333238
You only get 10, but it's better than nothing.
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>>172333267
are you sure you bought it?
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>>172333053
I didn't care much about finding new strength weapons, I feel in love with the great mace during this most recent playthrough.

Was very mad when Gael pretty much demanded I switch to something lighter because of how excruciatingly long the fight is
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>>172333267
do you have it downloaded anon? I made the mistake of thinking it would automatically unlock if i bought the pass on console, but i had to go and download the patch.
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>>172333285
<3
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So who's the final boss and what's it like? Won't be getting the dlc for a while.
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>look at wiki to see which bosses are weak to sorcery
>zero
Defend this
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>>172333294
>>172333345
i don't wanna talk about it i feel so fucking stupid holy shit
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>>172333243
There is literal cut content that the DLC patch added, so they pretty apparently rushed this shit out as fast as they could. Maybe they ran out of money.
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>>172333394
I only backstabbed you because I was sure it was so weak it couldn't kill you. Restatted all my DEX and FAI into VGR for this DLC nonsense.
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>Midir NG+7

Hahaha why did I do this, the laser beam oneshots me.
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>>172333441
Magic is for pussies
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>>172333441
>glass cannons can't sit back and wipeout bosses in 10 hits
>faith builds can't spam dorhys gnawing with saints bellvine
>everyone forced to melee

fitting for the send off
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>bought season pass thinking I had a character decked out with everything sitting at the end of the game

>all my characters are in the beginning of ng+

time to refund, not playing through main game again
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Anyone else keep getting the "You don't have the licence for this content" message? I've been kicked to the main menu like a dozen times trying to get through this DLC and it's making me want to scream.
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>>172333417
guy that let you into the last DLC buffed up in a needlessly huge boss room. Tries to remind people of TOH's final boss with some of the design choices but just embarrasses itself. Music is pretty good, phase 2 moveset is pretty good.
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>>172333519
Lol me too anon
I do every dlc on Ngmax first
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>get summoned for the demon prince
>host manages to get himself killed before me and the other phantom have hit the bottom

VERY impressive
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>>172324778
>undodgeable

How fucking shit are you? Took me like 2 hours to start learning him but as soon as I did I took him apart. He has a lot of health and deals a lot of damage but he's not unbeatable. One of the most fun bosses I've ever fought.

On that note spears of the church is hilarious. Shitting on people left and right and I'm not even close to a meta build
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>>172318981
Power stance isn't a thing in 3, you're just holding two swords.
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>>172333053
Exile's Greatsword and Washing Pole are still pretty cancer.

I don't know. The Lothric Banner is pretty sweet, and the crucifix too.
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Is Midir literally the worst artificial difficulty boss ever?
-ADHD
-Undodgable fuckhuge fire breaths
-homing souls of anus fuckery
I hate this cunt, i don't want to summon but i am losing my patience
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>>172333469
money coupled with how we now know that Miyazaki was working on multiple other projects at the same time are likely what did the damage to this DLC
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>>172333771

Plus Tanimura directed it.
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>>172333607
You can access AoA from the church and can access TRC from that, you massive stupid cunt
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>>172333771
>>172333890
>still defending Miyazaki
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>>172333634
Any juicy lore to go with it?
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this is the 7th church spear invasion that has been cancelled due to time out
do I have to port forward or something? I can't do undead arenas, regular invasions or use soapstones without there being like a 60% chance of time-outs
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>>172333749
git gud

summoning makes him harder. he's piss easy and has a highly predictable moveset. you'll laugh at how you thought he was difficult art first
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>>172333749
Summons won't help, their 7 estus won't last them long enough to deal enough damage to the boss to make up for his health boost.
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>>172333980
almost nothing. He wanted to get the dark soul for the painter girl who doesn't have a name still. He got it but he went crazy because he isn't a Champion. The end.
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>>172333958
no Miyazaki = no Soulsborne, so fuck off.
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hmm

I think the bosses in the DLC have ever so slightly too much health
and the arenas are just large spaces
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demon prince unbeatable?
i could use some help
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>>172334084
So no Manus/Pygmy/Kaathe/Frampt mentions? wew
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>>172333958
Miyazaki gave 0 fucks about this game, that much is abundantly clear. You can only judge his personality from such a thing.
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Just killed Midir, here's a couple of tips. Always run away from the fire, don't pass under him towards his tail do dodge it, if you go the other way it's much easier to avoid and you get a free hit on his head. Don't fight under him, always stay in front so you can get free hits on his head when he stops spamming. Run to the left when he flies in the air and starts spitting fire. If you can, use an ultra greatsword with the same attack set as the greatsword or the black knight greatsword, you can hit him 3 times with 2 attacks easily with the over the shoulder strike. Also this may vary for others, but when I got him to about 15% he got staggered and my execution finished him off.
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>>172333749
Lobos beat it by just attacking the tail
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>>172333958

>DLC has weird design choices made by Tanimura
>Complain about Tanimura
>Get called out for defending Montezuma

Are you literally stupid?
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>>172334114
you just have to stay close, anon. like right under ass close
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>>172334096

They're closer to Bloodborne ones in that regard

Except you don't have 20 Vials of health, getting health back when you hit, and super fast dodges.
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should I even bother with a DEX build or just be a quality shitter?
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>>172334194
>Lobos
literally who

>>172334014
>>172334057
>just attack X ;)
great
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>>172334169
There's the race of pygmies that also go largely unexplained beyond
>They claimed the dark soul, Gwyn gave them a city, they like the abyss
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>>172312551
is the demon prince hp bugged or something? what the fuck
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>Angel gauntlet followed by angel gauntlet followed by boss then summoned archer gauntlet, then dragon gauntlet, then another summoned archer gauntlet, then another dragon gauntlet, etc
What the hell is with this DLC
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>>172334169

The whole thing is about Pygmies

There's a different Serpent statue, which might just be Kaathe
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Are you supposed to do way less damage to Demon Prince than the two before him? Because it's annoying as shit.
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>>172334169

There is a reference to Oolacile, but that's it.

Pygmy stuff is everywhere.

The Primordial Serpents are referenced in a ton of statues depicting what is supposedly their full bodies, but that's it. Also to enter the Ringed City (tm) you go down the hole that you talked to Fraampt through back in DS1.
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Who are all these people a locust is talking about?
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>>172334294
What do you mean?
There are some good weapons for DEX that can't be used with a qualishit.
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>>172334294
I had to spec Fume Knight Memelord to get through the rape gauntlet of enemies, quick dex weapons are better against the bosses though.
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>>172334462

The people in Firelink whose side stories you finished. They all end up falling to the Abyss.
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>>172334387
>HURRRRRRRR
>DURRRRRRRR
>AOA WAS SO IZI PIZI FUCK U MEMEZAKI

>HURRRRRRRR
>DURRRRRRRR
>BOSS TAKES LESS DAMAGE IN 2ND PHASE FUCK U MEMEZAKI
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>>172334114
summon exactly one phantom

>>172334387
>>172334339
yes it does seem a bit excessive, but it's easily doable, you just have to be patient
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I feel like the Lord of Hollows ending, and Yuria's intentions in general, are the exact opposite of Gwyn's. Allow 'Dark' to rule in power while keeping 'Fire' in check.

Yuria: Blot out the sun with darkness while leaving a ring of light.

Gwyn: Seal humanity's darkness with a ring of fire (THE DARKSIGN)

MIYAZAKIIIIIIII
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>>172334251
>They're closer to Bloodborne ones in that regard
Eh, not really, Bloodborne gave you the opportunity to do a shitton of damage if you invested stats and upgraded your weapon.
Dark souls 3 is just anti-fun in that regard, and the DLC is giving NG++ tiers of HP to the bosses, making them kind of tedious.
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>>172334251
Actually, TOH's bosses only had excessive amounts of health on subsequent NGs, that was the source of the frustration with that one. Even then you could still get around it without that much heartache because of just how good a lot of the weapons in the game and bloodgems were.

With this DLC even on base NG the problem of stupid high defenses rather than bloated HP is there, and it only gets worse as HP is stacked with each additional NG. It's a huge design problem, and the only way to make things less tedious is to use a fast weapon.
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Anyone else using ledo's great hammer? It's amazing
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>>172334627

The ending is whatever you want it to be. Usurper has more potential it seems, but whatever future you think you want, take that ending.
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>>172334439
>>172334372
>>172334335
So what are the implications here, that Pygmies and Humans are separate species? I thought the whole shtick is that we're the pygmies, compared to the god-like race of Gwyn.
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Honestly fuck all of you.

ME, SOME RANDOM DUDE, BIGASS ARENA. NOTHING LEFT IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE EXCEPT FALLEN KINGDOMS AND PYGMY KINGS WHO ARE BEING EATEN ALIVE, THE WHOLE SCENE THE TRUTH HIDDEN BY THE RINGED CITY, AND GWYN'S INVENTION OF THE DARKSIGN TO SEAL AWAY TRUE HUMANITY.

FUCK ALL OF YOU, THIS IS GREAT LORE. FUCK YOU.
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>>172329245

Move from cover to cover. It's best to roll when they attack.
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>>172334057
you were right, i didn't summon NPC and i beat him 1st try
wtf
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>>172334516
which one?
I'm looking stuff like daggers and basically everything uncommon that you can possibly be an asshole with in invasions.
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>>172334763
The implication is that the series has shit translations.
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>>172334763

They're either one and the same, or one is a purer bloodline. That said, both are just slaves of Good, Gwyn. Humans and Pygmies were both used the same way and have the power to not die, as well as have Humanity. Basically the same thing.
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>>172334803
Elaborate a bit. Do it before Vaati comes up with his fanfiction that will be taken as fact.
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I have the covenant from midir but how do I queue to get matched?
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>>172334824
I love a boss that trolls the dried finger summon spammers
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>>172334763
Pygmies were just off on their own the whole time while humanity did its own thing with pieces of the dark soul. They're direct descendants from the original.

Fillianore is a non-character that is hiding a portal to a version of the city where everything is buried in ash except for the lord thrones for some reason. It's not clear if that's how things really are, if that's the future, or whatever the fuck else
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>DEMON SPONGE

Fuck's sake. I have 35/35 str/dex, what's the cheesiest weapon I can use against this huge faggot?
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>>172334848
Crow Quill.
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>>172334763

Pygmies are a separate species, yes.

>They fought with the Gods in the Dragon War
>They CAN live and work in the Abyss
>Humans are their descendants
>Gods got scared of the Abyss, and locked away the Pygmy homeland and kings (and the Dark Soul)
>Gods pretty much wiped the history of the Pygmies and got humans to serve them

We find out that the Abyss isn't the terrible deal it was made out to be
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open the door

shit on the lore

everybody do the Hackysaur
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>>172334576
waaaaat?
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>>172335057
just get out a straight sword
the bosses in this DLC except for the pvp boss are all about how many hits you can get in rather than how much damage you're doing. It's fucking retarded.
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>>172335057
Any black knight weapon dunks them.
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>>172335057
You can't cheese in DS3.
I think the black knight weapons do bonus damage though.
>>
How bad was the quality nerf in terms of damage output?
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>>172335036
So both Pygmies and Humans are direct descendants of the Furtive Pygmy? And they both have fragments of the Dark Souls which allows them to multiply much faster than the Gods?
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>>172335159
straight swords are the solution to all ds3 bosses, like how in ds2 it was maces since almost everything was a knight in armour
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>>172335117
>>They fought with the Gods in the Dragon War

I mean, they fought alongside the Gods (and Witches and Nito).
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>>172334604

>Hurrr I love bosses that take 5 hours to beat this is totally fun and not tedious!
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>>172334387
what I found is that you need to be super aggressive to it to trigger the visceral attack nad that helps smooth things over.
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>>172335002
>I love a boss that trolls the dried finger summon spammers

???
i didn't summon anything except 1 NPC and i beat him without it anyway
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>>172335112
crow quills with 60 DEX and sharp infusion have 391 AR, with 40/40 and refined they have 373 AR. Not that big difference desu.
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>>172335117
>We find out that the Abyss isn't the terrible deal it was made out to be
Yeah although we sort of knew this back in Souls 1 and 2. Gwyn was protecting his power and the dominion he had over the land and other races. There were plenty of claims that these cycles are natural and normal.
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Will I just get randomly summoned for spears of the church like blades of the darkmoon/aldrich faithful/watchdogs/way of the blue, or do I have to go somewhere to "queue", been waiting for kind of a long time and haven't gotten a match yet.
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>Black Witch Trousers
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>>172335307
>spending more than five minutes on a boss for anything but a meme
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>>172335395
Why 60? Isnt dex cap at 40 or 50?
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>>172335445
50 for crow.
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>>172333749
every single one of his fire attacks is dodgeable
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Where are all the retards claiming the DLC will be about Londor?
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>>172335445
no...
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Man I forget. Where is lapp when he's waiting for the purging monument? I can see the image of the place in my head but it doesn't seem to translate to directions.
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>>172334982

t. Vaati
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>>172335307
>I can't dodge a boss long enough to survive for 5 minutes

thoughten up cupcake, this DLC will be like 50 hours of playtime for you then.
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>>172335389
What I assume he means is that Midir is one of the few bosses in the game that actually make it more difficult with summons. Midir becomes extremely erratic and hard to predict with more than one target, as he essentially has two movesets: ranged and melee. With two people, he's bound to be using both at random, on top of the bonus to his already substantial health pool.
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>>172335263
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>there is literally no point to dragonsis
YAAAAAAAAAS!
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>>172335143

And let the feast begin.

I SHALL PARTAKE
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>>172335445
Because unless you have 48 DEX the refined Crow Quills at 40/40 have more AR.
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>>172334729
In general I felt like BB had high HP for bosses, even when you play as aggressive as they want you to.
>>
Any lore for us DaSII fans? ;_;
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How do I get dragged into spear of the church?
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>>172335818
Kill the drake.
>>
> Me

> Some random dude

> The end of the Universe

> Fallen Kingdoms

> Ashen Barren Existence

> Pygymy Kings being eaten alive

> The whole scene a farce hidden by the Ringed City

> Gwyn sealed true humanity with a ring of fire, THE DARK SIGN

> The son of a bitch

> This is it

> Me

> Some random dude

> Fighting over the Dark Soul

> tfw he realizes the Dark Soul is in his own blood

> So then, Laurentius, old friend? Remember when you asked me way back when, what is true humanity? I have an answer for you my friend, wherever you might be.

> Cut to FINAL BOSS OF THE SERIES

> "Ahh, is it the Blood? The Blood of the Dark Soul?"

> TFW

10/10 ending to the series, don't force your OTPs on From and complain because your fan canon didn't make it. This is fucking perfect.
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>>172335203

It's not that they multiply faster, though they might. But the Dark Soul prevents them from staying dead so long as they don't give up. We've known this since the first game. Seems further confirmed by Gwyn using the seal of fire on them and the Mad King Crucifix has a pygmy king that refuses to die stuck to it.
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>>172335871
I did and I have the covenant equipped but i haven't gotten a game yet, been waiting for 10 minutes.
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>>172335761
Literally 80% of the dlc is jerking itself over DS2 so you'll have fun.
>>
>>172334462
>>172334576
isnt it dark souls 2 character stories though?
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>>172335873
why did you type this out like a 12 year old
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>people who summon and use ranged weapons in spear of the church

Truly the bane of my existence. I was on a high after killing a 3-man squad but the next duo deflated it.
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>>172335979

No, it's specifically taking about Anri, Eygon, Sirris and co. It's not even hard to decipher.
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>>172335873

To elaborate on this a bit further, once you break Filianore's Seal, you've broken the curse of the Darksign, that Gwyn placed to seal the Dark Soul and true humanity (which is nothing but the blood of any dark soul, i.e., early humans)

Gael is eating the Pygmy Kings to find the Dark Soul.

Except tfw now that the seal of the darksign is broken, the blood of the dark soul is within him already.

This DLC is making me cum.
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>Abyss watcher fights himself during the boss battle
Holy shit that's cool as fuck
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>>172323681
Its actually fine. Yeah a dark infused thrall axe has more AR for a Int+Faith build but its slower. U can infuse and buff it so infuse it dark and its a decent quickstep tool. Infuse it raw or sharp and cast dark blade on it with a crystal chime and it is also decent.
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>>172336114
>>172336114
>>172336114
new
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>>172335929
>never found midir
>never found covenant
>getting summoned repeatedly
Please help I'm not equipped for pvp
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>>172330323
>Yuria's JP dialogue when you kill her before marrying Anri has her apologising to Kaathe for not completing his 'dying wish'.
Yurias JP dialogue was in english, souls games have English VA
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>>172329546
>>172329939
>waaaaaah why isn't everything spelled out in huge paragraphs of text, how could From betray us like this???
You're in the wrong franchise
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>>172335507
What's dex cap if not 50?

>>172335694
Then why go to 60 if 48 is enough
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>>172335497
Trying to meme up a headcanon where Ringed City actually is Londor, I'd imagine. That would be the first step if it were me.
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>>172335761
Ruin Sentinels are based on these knights that went to the Ringed City and got raped by the loreless judicators
Earthen Peak being in the DLC is not a lore matter rather than it's just there because shit from every age is supposed to be in the Dreg Heap and AoA already had the DS1 callbacks
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>>172336321
He meant the text, retard. All the dialogues are written in nip first and then translated for the VA.

The nip subs are the original.
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>>172336123
I could probably fap to my own headcanon pretty easily as well
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>>172335497

It is Londor, or Londor is a subsection of it.
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>>172331073
I only use shields for PvP, and only things that are black knight tier. I'll also slap etheral oak on my back in PvE for regen I guess.
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>>172330087

Pygmies don't really die of old age, anon.

So it makes sense that they're at the end of time, and that's where Gael went to find them.
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demon prince is absurd
what do i do to maximize damage on that fucker?
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>>172339528
Make sure you have Gael, he helps a shitload. Otherwise no idea, I only just beat him with friend since my only char is NG+.
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