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RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

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IS IT GOOD

IS IT WORTH IT

WILL I BE MAD?
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does anything happen if crawling dude gets to Filianore?
I am kinda interested lol
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> 172335873
> 172336123

Read this shit you ingrates, before Vaati steals this lore.
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>>172336215
Will you be mad? Depends what you mean, if you mean mad that you wasted your money, I don't think so, but so for all but one boss as been extremely frustrating to me.
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why do you fags bully Autistic Lapp?
he's been really useful.
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Anyone pick up any Sable Church lore? After Friede I expected more.
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I think the game could be improved if Lothric Castle wasn't so high up, and if the banner area after vordt connected up to that long bridge that leads to the undead settlement

then you have the choice of being taxied to the undead settlement, or you could have a go at the stray demon to continue
(and you'd treat the stray demon as an actual boss fight)
this way you could skip straight into the farron swamp if you wanted to
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>> 172335873
>> 172336123

Read this shit you ingrates, before Vaati steals this lore.
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I told Lapp about the monument
Where'd he go?
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>>172336441
>Vaati
>lore
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>>172336215

It's better than Ashes. Debatable if that makes it good or not.
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the aquamarine dagger moveset is fun as fuck but do you really need to hold down the weapon art to keep using the long sword? annoying as hell
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>>172335873
>>172336123

Read this shit you ingrates, before Vaati steals this lore.
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>>172336118
one of them is about alva
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>>172336441
link it properly you fag
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>Boss as spear of the church
>Undead Hunter Charm
>Guy gets cucked trying to drink a potion
>Ledo's great hammer to the face
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Is it true you can farm slabs from the Old Monk boss?
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I read somewhere that you can farm slabs off of Spear of the Church.
Having killed it an extra two times I see this is not the case, or am I mistaken?
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I refunded the game 1 hour after I bought it near release. What are the good builds now? I need to know so I can plan something after I pirate it.
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>>172334000
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>>172336719

The only good build is the 40/40 quality
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>>172336562

Yeah, kind of counter intuitive for a caster.
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>>172336390

The entire Ringed City is basically Londor/Londor is a subsection of the city. Third sister isn't there. Kaathe was right. Darkwraiths are discovered to be remnants of the original Ringed Knights that fought in the original War of the Ancients, but got cucked out of the history books by Gwyn because he's a nigger.
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>>172336793
But I thought hollow weapons were brokenly good?
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>>172336562
No. Try to press L2 R1 R2 for example. Or R1 L2. Or run/roll L2/R1
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>Desert Sorceress set is back
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>>172336350
>summoning on your first playthrough

The 3 bosses are basically 50% of the content and you cheesed that lmao. Tomorrow you faggots will cry how short and izi the dlc was.
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It's hilarious hearing people cry about the lore in this dlc. It was written extremely intelligently and we learned new things. This dlc alone has better writing and lore than the entirety of Dark Souls 2.
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What's in the spooky basement in Anor Londo with Havel's gear?

I heard something in the darkness but I was too scared to look.
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So how did you react when you found out dark souls is all a dream sequence?
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>>172336605
No one cares about filling in the blanks lore discussion, all that matters is stuff actually based on evidence and not based on a personal need for the DLC to have a good story.

Fillianore's waking is the most incoherent thing in the entire series.
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>>172337158
What are you talking about
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>>172337231
I kms
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>>172337112

Unfortunately, I have to agree. The writing and shit in DS2 was absolutely fucked.
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>>172336850
Interesting. My interpretation of the Gwyn thing was he created the dark sign in the first place for some reason.
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>just now realized I can use the spear abilities via items after having been the boss at least thirty times

Well, I haven't really needed it, I've noticed. Couple of gank squads I could have used it on though.
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>enter church "boss" fight
>invaded by a guy who lags so much i don't even know where he is standing
>decide to go after the minions then
>instantly backstabbed
thanks from, great boss design
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>>172337112
Does a more pretentious way of wording this actually exist?
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>Aquamarine dagger R1 L2 is not true combo
WHAT THE FUCK?
Why? What the point of this dagger?
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THESE RUIN SENTINELS ARE WORSE THAN THE FUCKING ANOR LONDO ARCHERS.
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>tfw no dragonsis
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>>172337413
run faster fatty
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHGH LAPP I'M GONNA FUCKING MURDER YOU
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you idiots have two generals
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>>172337112
Agree with the last bit. I find myself having to say "it's better than DS2" when describing why something about DS3 doesn't suck quite often.
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Ending relevant shit
You and an old man are the best that the world has to offer. You are what is left of several aeons of dragons and gods
Never mind the NPC that is hiding in a ruin over there
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>>172336280
>can't even crosspost properly
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>>172336114
Does the aquamarine deal magic damage and does its weapon art deal more damage than farron flash blade?
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>>172337079
>implying i ever cared about difficulty
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Ok, I give up, how do I get up here?
I think I've hit every wall in this place.
I have boss in wasteland and dragon boss left
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>>172337510
What did Miyazaki mean by that?
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>>172337353
>intentionally download shit while invading church
>hornet ring, Dragonslayer Greataxe
>lagstab people nonstop

it's ebin D:DD
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>>172337314

I know that was a theory for a while, but now it seems confirmed to be true even though I adamantly fought against the theory. The seal of fire was the Darksign, but the curse of undeath was actually the Dark Soul just doing what it would have normally done had the seal of fire not been put on the humans.
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>>172337476
I'm <25%.
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>>172337498
oh shit you're right
>>172321712
>>172321712
we can recycle this thread afterwards
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>>172337510
>You are what is left
We really have no fucking clue what the final map of the series actually is, beyond the pygmy lords being there and only there.
All that we can do is come up with radically different interpretations and get mad at each other when ones that we don't like turn up. Blame Miyazaki working on more than two other things while this was being made.
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>>172336850
>Kaathe was right
It should be illegal to be this stupid. Enjoy being eaten alive by darkness insects and mutating into hideous monsters, retard. Maybe if you're lucky you'll just go hollow before all the real bad shit happens.
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>>172337613
Humanity puzzle you stupid
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This is a glourious fucking feel.

>you can spam the stance for the door shield to dry hump the air over your dead enemies
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>>172337613
show your humanity
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>>172337617
About the Old Man?
The world is fuck, a frail old man and someone worse than dirt who can't even die properly can get through the most through determination and willpower

The Lady?
They prolly didn't know where to put her
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>>172337668
Go up to >70% to actually have some armor and use the graves to hide. You gotta jump to the right.
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Did Faith ever get any buffs? Is it not godawful now? I want to make a sunbro build with the new banner spear.
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>>172337502
At least it's not DaS 2 is an awful excuse when you instead see how bad it is compared to a better game
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>>172337698
True
He doesn't really make it clear where we are, mostly because he completely fucking botched Fillianore and inserted her there for easy lolz
Vaati plz
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>>172337726
Yes however it's quite loud
No thank you
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>>172337236
>city exists at the edge of the age of fire, where the death fire, and thus of time and space, have reduced the entire world to a blank wasteland of ash
>the Ringed City is somehow fine
>the sleeping princess powers some kind of spell, a "seal" (powered by her fire) hat maintains some deceit over the city
>wake her up and break the spell
>the city transforms into the same ashen wasteland as everywhere else
I wonder what could have possibly have happened???????
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Holy shit, why is the head so big.
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i-it's not like i wanted this mimic treasure anyways
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Is Demon's Scar any good?
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>>172336114
FALSE ALARM
you can not fuck up Lapps quest (Unless you kill patches in the base game) or ruin your chance with the new covenant.
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>>172337865
I wasn't having trouble with the first section, but the second,m with two sets of archers that take turns pin pincushioning you.
Trick was pretty stupid, just had to run as soon as I got to the top of the ladder instead of waiting for the archers to disappear.
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>>172337705

Nigga, the Abyss isn't that bad. The locusts are fags and we don't know exactly where they come from, though we do know something sentient is sending them. They don't seem to be a direct product of the Abyss. Midir is the deepest Abyss yet, like the DS2 Abyss. It's just dark and damp. Shit goes south whenever there's a border between fire and dark. Fire either needs to dominate or dark needs to dominate. No in between.

Can we all agree that The Ringed City is the most beautiful area in three entire series?
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>>172337645
>The seal of fire was the Darksign,
Fanfiction

Break the seal and then go into your inventory. Is the Darksign still there? Spoilers: it is, and also you still respawn. The curse of undeath is still active.
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>>172338007
Are you really still trying to push this? With even more made up points this time?
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How should I build for Gael's?
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>>172337720
>>172337792
I don't get it
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FUCK ANGELS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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how good is the second covenant item?
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>>172338178
HE'S PATCHES?!
I had no idea who that Lapp guy everyone's talking about was cause I never saw him anywhere, but I killed Patches base game because fuck Patches.

Woops. Old pilgrim in the beginning still mentioned a dude in armor wandering through though.
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>>172338134
I can't decide between it and seething chaos myself.
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>still nothing that let's me see other players stamina and fp
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Why am I forced to fight a player if my connection isn't good? My first Spear fight was invisible, the second kept jumping around and his attacks hit before he swung.

Fuck his client-side, I'm the host.
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>people are still dying to midir
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What the fuck are you supposed to do about Midir on the bridge? It's an incredibly cheap fight.
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>>172338245

The curse of undeath isn't the result of the Darksign, nigga. The Darksign itself, the fire ring, is the seal of fire that was placed on humanity to prevent from from respawning because of the Dark Soul, which is the black center. Notice the Darksign in the inventory is just the ring, which the Dark Sigil is the black center.

She wasn't the one keeping the Darksign in place, nigga. We don't know what the fuck she was doing.
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>>172338207
>the Abyss isn't that bad
AALFGTHRFGIRSVAFNHAHAHA -- The sounds that my bloathead body attempts to make as it disagrees with you.

Also, the Abyss is caustic, it corrodes. The Deep is gentle, soothing darkness. Not the Abyss. The Abyss is a perversion of the Deep
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why is the repeating crossbow so fucking shit
>deals meager amount of damage even at +5
>weapon art is incredibly inaccurate after the first 2-3 bolts
>weapon art can only fire a maximum of 10 bolts in succession
>can't be used effectively as an off-hand weapon as that renders the weapon art unusable
i was really excited when I saw you could get Gael's crossbow but it's just so fucking shit
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>>172338508
Press the attack button a lot.
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>>172338510
>The Darksign itself, the fire ring, is the seal of fire that was placed on humanity to prevent from from respawning because of the Dark Soul, which is the black center.
That makes no sense because it is the Darksign itself that provokes respawning, (check the description), and it sure as hell doesn't PREVENT you from respawning.
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Ok i wanted to beat DLC without summons but fuck Gael in the ass, absolute cancer

>inb4 he's easy git gut
fuck you
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>>172338508
Jesus fuck dude. Go in, hit his paws, he'll start to go apeshit, go back and hide behind the wall to the left, when the fire fades away from the ground, go hit his paws again. It's one of the easier encounters of this shit heap, way easier to deal than fucking angels.
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>try to use CE to upgrade all the new stuff because not enough slabs
>CE tables broken with latest patch
>CE forums are kill forever
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>>172338354
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Show+your+Humanity
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>>172338694
I did it with a Butcher's Knife. Roll a lot and bring a quick weapon.
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>>172338529

The Abyss and the Deep are one and the same. The reason bloatheads happened was because shit hits the fan when fire meets shadow. Plus Manus was a super powerful sorcerer who went ballistic because Oolacile fucked with him. All of the Abysses shown in the games have been quiet and damp once you're actually in them.
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>>172338272
What's made up? That as fire fades the concepts of time and space begun fading away? Because that's literally stated in the game. I'm sorry that you're fucking stupid.
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>>172338508
Hide at the safespot when he first spots you and breathes fire
Attack his right hand(your left) until he triggers his fire/laser attack, walk away from the fire, but attack his left hand while he uses the laser.
Run away when he spazzes out and repeat the above once he isn't spazzing.
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That ruin sentinel section has to be the most bullshit part of the entire game. I'd rather have angels than this pile of trash.
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Has anyone figured out yet what do I get for giving Blood of the Dark Soul to the painter waifu? Do the following dialogue choices concerning your name affect anything? Does the item have any other uses?

There's gotta be some payoff other than "thanks for being the errand boy dude" at the end of this quest line.
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>>172338508
You're gonna shit bricks when you actually have to fight him.
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Silver Knight Ledo won't invade me. Is it because I already beat all the bosses or something? I want that hammer...
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>>172338007
>the Ringed City is somehow fine
Which is why Dragonslayer time traveled there, right
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>>172338694
>walk backwards
>let him spaz out
>every time he does the lunge-forward-stab-sword-in-ground thing, dodge and then hit him
>repeat until win

granted you also just need to know how to dodge, but the key is to play defensively
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>>172338837
Open question, is there any other example of a dialogue option in a souls game not having any affect on anything?
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>>172338694
It's doable, it's just tedious because it takes so fucking long.
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Why are darkmoons always so TRASH at pvp?
if you're going to join a pvp covenant, dont suck
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>>172338407
Yeah he is patches. Have you checked the little hidden area in the beginning area where you first meet the 2 lothric knights? theres a bridge in front of them and after crossing it lapp will be there.
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>>172338879
resurrect boss at monument maybe?
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>>172338942
Aldia in DaS2 questions both the Age of Fire and Age of Dark, with the player getting a yes / no option that doesn't affect anything, not even his response.
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>>172338691

Because the seal is fucking weakened. The full seal with be during a full blown Age of Fire where the Darksign doesn't exist. The Darksign is the Dark Soul pushing back against the Fire seal. It's obvious at this point. Read the Ringed Knights armor and weapons while you're at it.
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>>172338821
>What's made up? The one part of my post that isn't made up? Because that's literally stated in the game.
Come on now, you have to see how ridiculous you're being.
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>5 in 1 in spears of the church
feels good, fuck these dried finger faggots
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mfw a dragon boss opts to actually use its massive weight and speed to bumfuck me
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>>172338990
because 99% of darkmoons just want the epic meme glow for their weapon and not pvp.
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Why am I getting summoned almsot immediately at the ringed city streets bonfire but I see 0 summon signs myself?
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where the fuck do I go after getting to the poisonus swamp with the 2nd angel? feel like i'm being retarded and missing something obvious
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>>172338814
>the Abyss and the Deep are one and the same.
They are not. They are two entirely different things, and the game treats them as different things. For example, if they were the same then why distinguish between Deep and Dark (Abyssal) infusions? The entire purpose behind the introduction of the Deep, as a concept, is to explain what happens if you get a shitload of humanity together but it hasn't been driven wild and it sits there gently instead. As opposed to just calling it the Abyss to start with.

>All of the Abysses you see in game are gentle
You instantly die if you walk on the 4kings arena without special protection.
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>>172338727
That's what I was doing and it just wasn't working.

>>172338831
This was good advice, worked well.

>>172338878
I was having more of a problem with the cliff than with him himself. Most of my deaths were knockoffs.
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>>172338742
Thanks, didn't notice the wall is usable. Anyway, how anyone is supposed to know what do with that?
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>>172339245
DLC is hard so there's a high demand for summoned players since shitters can't get through the game on their own
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>>172339259
Up.
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>>172338928
You mean one of the spare suits of enchanted armor left over from the war?

Regardless, it is certainly doing much better than the outside world
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Has /dsg/ defeated their NotBahamut? Took me 20 tries and eventually I had to rely on Shira a couple of times but I finally killed it.
>literal endurance test, always better to get one or two hits and dodge the swipes/breathe
>you should be hitting the head whenever he turns around or running towards the tail whenever he does his proximity downward fire
>when you're far away let him come to you instead of chasing him down since he does charge attacks anyway
>bring a ranged weapon when he's exploding
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Ringed City area is pure cancer
>those small cursed little shitters
>knights on roids
>ninja magic turtles
>close quarters
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>>172339432
The one that we killed in the main game and rotted for years before being dragged off to the ringed city and being repossessed again. Time is fucked up in the city too.
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>>172338835
Just take cover. I have no idea why people find this one hard. Just binoculars to scout out ahead.
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>>172339261

>walk into the Abyss

Nigga you fall far as fuck.

In Oolacile you walk into the Abyss just fine. In Dark Souls 2 you go into the Abyss multiple times just fine. In the Midir boss fight you're in the Abyss just fine. The Deep is just the religious connect applied to the Abyss. Wouldn't be the first time people call the same thing two different things. Ashen One, Champion of Ash, shit like that. The Deep is in the Abyss, but probably just the liquid portion of there is a difference.
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Just knocked midir off the bridge
Will he have less health in the boss fight?
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Aww yea boi, gotta go fuck him up for real now.
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Anyone else wish you could have summoned Lorian in his prime for the demon prince. It would've been a nice send-off for him.
And do you think the demon prince knows we killed his dad?
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>>172339468
I tried this with a Greataxes quite a few times, then switched to my trusty Millwood Axe and did it.
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>>172339046
I'd use a faster weapon when you get there.
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>>172339051
Disparity is a concept that is born and sustained by fire. This is explained in the first 5 minutes of the entire franchise. Disparate pairs like
>heat and cold
>life and death
>light and dark
>past, present, and future
>location A and location B
>parallel world A and parallel world B
As fire fades all these things fade as well. So you get things like the Undead popping up, time being convoluted, the fabric of reality wavering, and transitory lands.
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>>172339617

Ahahaha ahaah ahahah

>>172339681

No, he has no reason to help you.
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>>172338732
Lmao, fuck you ciaran you cheater
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>saw people claiming you need at least 48 dex for quills to be worth sharpening because they do more damage with refined, thus you need to go to 48 dex to match it
what the fuck?
>9/40 quills have 363 AR
>40/40 quills have 373 AR
like wow, 10 AR for 41 SL, real valid argument guys, totally afraid of being inferior to quality now

compare things of equal investment instead:
>9/40 sharp quills have 363 AR
>24/25 refined quills have 298 (and 25/24)
>24/25 SHARP quills have 305

Even at 40/40 sharp is only 3 points behind refined, and adding 4 dex and removing 7 str from the sharp version puts it ahead of refined even there of all places, so it's definitely more AR per point sharp even in that range. I'm not saying you shouldn't overlevel it but it definitely isn't necessary to make sharp worth it.
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oh no
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>>172339754
N-no then?
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>>172339487
I love it.

>Not putting on dried finger too


>>172339681
>killed his dad

They spawned from the bed of chaos. Demonkind was doomed with the death of the bed of chaos.
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>>172339717 meant for
>>172339663
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What build should I use for Gael's greatsword? Quality?
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where my Shields of the Church at?
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>>172339792
oh
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>>172339792
prepare to be in MincecRaftKid05's youtube video anon
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>>172339468
He was pretty alright
>Usually does a 2 swipe combo followed by a down breath attack
Just wait for the head after the tail spin, or when he turns
Other than that easy peasy
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>>172339050
So the Darksign is at full strength as its seal of fire during the full-blown age of fire, when it doesn't exist?

Anon I think that what you're trying to say is that the strength of fire is what keeps Death working properly, which is something that we've always known.

Furthermore, the Ringed Knight dialogue doesn't say that the Gods placed their seal on the whole of humanity because of Abyss weapons, just those weapons' wielders. Hence the fire on their armor.
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>>172339717
Dunno what'd I use. Got any recommendations? It wouldn't hurt to try a new weapon.
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>>172339989
>>172340010
oh wow
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>>172339907
What is quality build again?
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>>172339557
Still in better shape than the Flameless Shrine, which is the point.
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>>172340173
40/40
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just finished dlc, SL120, my list of deaths:
- falling to death at beginning (crumbling bridge), unavoidable
- killed by the angel, didn't know its rate of fire increased greatly after second volley
- died twice in swamps to angels again
- one death at demon prince, one shotted by charging attack while hoping to hide behind the structures
- one shotted by archer spam at the passage with giant summoner
- one death to ringed knights (pulled 2 and some other dudes at the same time by accident)
- ~6 deaths to Midir, until i finally figured out when i can reliably hit its head and how to dodge the 2 swipe + breath down combo
- ~2 deaths at the church of spear to laggers/cheaters, 3rd time i got some katana fag who attacked into perseverance and got 2 shotted with BKS
Midir seems like a true boss of this expansion, Gael doesn't hit too hard and is very easy to dodge and hit as well, rather disappointing fight
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Is Ledo's great hammer the best new DLC weapon? That weapon art
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Anyone have the stats of the new rings?
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>>172340093
I use Butcher's Knife as a faster weapon on my str chars, works pretty well.
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>the first weapon in the DLC is a str weapon that requires just as much dex as exile, just after exile was made into a fuckhuge str weapon
>old monk fight introduced at the same time as the monastery infinite
this can't be a coincidence

Though on the contrary I saw all those dudes on the floor and thought the splitleaf's weapon art would be made to kill them, but of course it swings the weapon as high above your fucking head as possible. Well memed miyazaki.
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>>172340410
2DOOR is the best
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>>172340043

The Darksign on their armor, you mean. There's a reason their "seal of fire" is a literal fucking Darksign. The seal of fire holds back the Dark, but recedes in a circular fashion as the fire fades. Death is not even real. It's a construct created by Fire. The Darksign, it's the appearance of the hole pushing back the Ring of Fire, everything outside of that ring of Fire is still basically under the Fire illusion. The combination of the Dark Sigil in the center and the ring of fire on the borders is what is collectively known as the Darksign. As the Age of Fire wanes, the illusion starts to disappear, and seals that were held in place by the strength of the flame start to weaken.
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>>172340093
Exile milwood axe or a mace are okay.
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>>172340447
I used butcher's knife early on and it was okay. I don't remember it being fast enough to constitute using it over any other greatsword though. Is it not recommended to bring something light like a straight sword?
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>>172340396
>every fight was so trivial because I am an overleveled faggot!
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>>172340613
If you're pure str then just about any heavy straight sword is likely fine.
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>get summoned as a spear
>2 phantoms and a shitter host with ringed equipment
>okay whatever
>all three have CE godmode on
>just fucking around knowing they won't be able to lose
Pure cancer. Why even bother playing?
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>>172339593
>the Deep is just religious connotations applied to the Abyss
No, for two reasons:

>there are actual Abyss worshipers in the game (Londor) and they call it the Abyss
>the Deep Braille Tome mentions "horrors within the Deep" such as Gnaw insects (which are Abyssal) as a foreign invading force, as distinct from the Deep, thus drawing a clear line of separation between the Deep and any Abyssal influence, going so far as to claim that this influence is negative
Trying to claim that the two are equal is like trying to say that normal fire and chaos fire are the same thing. They arent.

Dark Souls 2 was a fuckup lorewise and trying to make big conclusions from it is a mistake.
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>>172340628

>120 is overleveled
>You don't even know what NG cycle he's on

No, anon, you are the faggots.
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>>172340680
>>172340594
I'm gonna test out the butcher knife and the other ones. By "a mace" did you just mean anything in the hammer category or does one in particular stand out?
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>>172340761

You literally ignored all my other evidence.

In addition your "insects are foreign invaders in the Deep front the Abyss is straight up unsubstantiated headcanon." Nowhere does it imply that.
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>>172340589
So the seal of fire is just Death, and the Darksign is the visual indicator of the weakening seal being stripped away?
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>>172340628
you get to like sl110 by just clearing base game + AoA, you faglord, ringed city is designed around that level
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am i getting memed on, i'm doing literally 0 damage to the first boss of the DLC, I know they are supposed to be demons and everything but has my chaos/pyro build finally cucked me
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>>172340840
Once you get the Ledo's great hammer in the DLC, swap to that. It's fucking awesome
>t. Ledo's hammer shill
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>>172340628
>every fight was hard because I was an underleveled faggot!
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>>172341208
>>172340410
WHY WON'T HE SPAWN FOR ME
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>>172340840
Great mace is very good but that defeats the purpose of asking you to switch lol. I meant a regular mace because he does a bitch ass attack that when youre under him he will breathe fire under his legs and you need to roll fucking fast outta there.
A heavy weapon will get you killed especially if you swung for times or three and have no stamina to roll.
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>>172341208
I have it, but isn't the point to have a fast weapon? It looks pretty sexy though.
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Just beat Gael solo

Jesus that was an endurance battle for my 60 Faith + 40 Strength character

Way harder than Orphan
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>>172338732
Why did they shut down the threads?
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>Going in on the DLC solo because always do solo PVE on every soulsborne game
>All is doing fine and might be eas-
>MY FUCKING FRAMERATES
>HOLY FUCK LAZER ANGELS
>Fucking tree scimy big guy
>Boss is a piece of cake, guess it's just this area that is har-
>HOLY FUCK SENTINELS EVERYWERE
>FUCKING BIG GUY CRIES CHEAP META TO KILL ME
> JESUS CHRST EVERYWERE IS A GANKSPANK ANAL RODEO GANGBANG
>Boss is still easy
>Find another boss
>Darkeater Midir is literary Kalameet on steroids and lazor mouths
>Fighting the damn thing with no embers
>All this on NG+2

Glad I got the damn covenant and fucking people up, will it get worst on the desert?
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Um
What the fuck just happened to the city
Who can explain this?
Why does waking her do this?
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Does fighting Halflight have any consequences against the Spears covenant?

Does it count as betrayal?
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>>172341001

The seal of fire is only placed on those with the Dark Soul, and it's meant to suppress the Dark Soul's main power, rebirth after death. The Dark Soul is imperfect immortality.

And yes, the Darksign only appears when the Age of Fire starts to wane.
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Dreg spell is pretty useless in PVP. Zero tracking
Murky staff is useless too
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We out here with weird resolution just running up on dragons dicks
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Does fighting Halflight lock you out of the new covenant or no?
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>>172341458
nope
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>>172341413
>All this on NG+2
Same here. One thing I fucking hate is when I first played this, I did everything offline so not even PvE invaders would invade, I have to be online for that stupid shit
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>>172341528

No, waking up Filly does.
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>>172341336
Yeah fuck that, use the hammer, the weapon art is awesome.
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>>172341613
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
I JUST WOKE HER UP
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO JOIN IT
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>>172341613
Thanks, guess i'll throw myself against NG+2 Kalanot some more
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>>172341292
Yeah the millwood battleaxe seems slightly slower than I'd want for that purpose. The longsword feels good, so I think I'll go with that. Thanks for the input.

>>172341648
I don't have the FP to use weapon arts though.
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>>172341249
Are you offline? Some guy said that NPCs won't invade if you're offline.
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>>172340917
>insects invading the Deep are Abyssal
I'm sorry, did you miss all the shit in TRC that describes Abyss monsters as insectoid in nature, or did you never read the description of the Deep Braille Tome that states that Gnaw, which summons Darkness insects, is a tale describing the many "abhorrent things" that invaded and made their home in the once-peaceful and gentle Deep? I thought that I was talking with someone who knew what they were talking about.

And in Oolacile the Abyss is still young and weak in power, in its nascent stages, but it is certainly strong enough to corrode anything that isn't inherently Dark resistant, like Artorias. Go ask him how "gentle" it was. And inb4 Manus did that, his armor states that it was Abyssal corrosion. Dark Souls 2 was a nonsequitor in terms of story and setting, and so I would be hesitant to draw strong conclusions from it, but even so it is in a similar situation to Oolacile, too weak to hurt you on account of being split into 999999 fragments. Doesn't mean it isn't trying. But then again, DaS2 is strange.
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Question!
Should I level passed 99 or will that throw me into the next soul level tier?
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>>172341786
I'm definitely online. I was just standing in his little tower getting summoned as a Spear.
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So it turns out the humanity blob on the Harald Legion isn't handled by a SpEffect at all. It's just a passive, permanent VFX on the model. So that further confirms that the SpEffect is or was meant for the player, on top of it already being pretty much confirmed by being grouped with other player-specific SpEffects.

Did anyone figure out how to get it legitimately while I wasn't paying attention or is this still something of a mystery?
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>Use greatshield build
>Dragon has unblockable attacks.
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I'm starting to lose my fucking mind over Gael. He's a piece of shit nobody that nobody cares about, why does FromSoft think giving him the dark soul means fans would've liked Tanimura's edgy OC more?
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I guess I have to kill Sister Friede in my NG+ playthrough to get the 2nd DLC bonfire, right? (or run through all the game to the endboss)
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So I formatted my pc a few days ago and backed up my DS3 savefiles. I redownloaded DS3 but didn't bother putting the savefiles back in until today since the DLC came out, but this means my save files are from 2 patches ago

Can I just put my unupdated save files in the updated game's folders? Should I copy the entire unupdated DS3 then update?
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>>172341613
wat? I woke her up and I get summoned
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>>172341613
>>172341668
>>172341705
Not true, maybe killing Gael, but I woke up filly, went back to kill midir and now I'm 7-1 in spear of the church invasions

people are pretty bad
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>>172341208
Where to get Ledo's Hammer.
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>>172341901
It's probably a cut effect.
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>>172341420

You get sent to the ends of time
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Fuck Gael
>Fuck Gael
Fuck Gael
>Fuck Gael
Fuck Gael
>Fuck Gael
PIECE OF SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
JUST DIE YOU FUCKING CUNT
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>>172341961
Where do you get the covenant patch from?
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>>172338015
you need to be big guy to match with body type
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>>172341125
that's bullshit.
You're SL85 when you clear the main game, maybe 90 with AoA and with 90 I wouldn't enter this DLC
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>>172341613
I wake up the princess and then beat lazor steroid dragun, still invade as a boss
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>>172341973
Fromstairs that go down from the streets to the swap with a bunch of fatties, go into the swamp, turn left and there is a staircase in the wall. Then keep going ahead.
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>>172341476
Who says that only Dark Soul carriers respawn when the flames start fading? Life vs Death is disparity applied to the entire world by Fire, and thus fades equally for everyone when the flames fade, it doesn't discriminate.
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>>172341923
He was just a vessel, you're fighting a good portion of the Dark Soul itself.
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>>172342054
Killing the hidden boss; first fight the dragon on the bridge; then look for hidden paths and walls in the shortcut to the 2nd bonfire in the city
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Alright, fuck being killed by midir in 1-2 hits.
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>>172341798
PLEASE RESPOND!
I want to level up but not if it'll lock me out of doing things with more people.
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I think they should have added frost as a magic type to DaS3 so it wouldn't feel like an afterthought like it is now.

It could have scaled similar to pyromancy, but mostly favored to INT, or maybe also change pyromancy to favor FTH more with scaling to act like a counterbalance.
It would probably have weaker overall damage compared to the other magic types, but would add frost buildup on hit.

Too bad my shitty fanfiction magic will never be in the game.
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>>172342106
A little after 90 is when I started it. Didn't really have too much trouble. Midir took maybe 8 tries.
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>>172342159
There are no tiers, check the wiki for how the multiplayer rtangees are calculated (depends on the covenant and what you are doing(invading or cooping)).
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>>172341973
So what was she exactly? Just an obstacle in time?
Does killing Shira ruin my chances of getting in the covenant?
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>>172342032

I felt the same

It's an awesome fight, but god it's an endurance test.

40 Str was my main combat power, and I eventually got him.

Fucking hardest fight for me so far. Beats NG+ Ludwig easily.
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>>172342159
there are no tiers, it's a formula and the range moves with you

>>172341937
pls respond
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>>172342159
Level up to 110-120

You will need it for the DLC, since it will rape you
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Where the fuck is the big soul dregs spell? Also how do I get to the item right next to the earthen peak bonfire on the branch?
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>That feel when you die protecting your swamp
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>>172341953
>>172341961

You can't join the covenant after waking her. If you're already in you're in.
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Destroying people in the church with my hammer and edgy armor.
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how many spear pieces do you need for all the covenant rewards? 30?
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>>172342450

You know the 2 Lothric Knights at the start?

If you go out their room and right, you'll hit a building with some rooms with respawning Murkmen

There's a hidden wall in the last room
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Just beat gael
Thats its? What were those screenshots of some giga nigga with a huge. sword and blue effects?
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>>172342212
>Vordts soul gives you his frost breath attack as a spell instead of that ring no one uses
>Acts like fire surge that does frost buildup
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>>172342212
Sounds redundant
>>
>Go against Gael
>Get FUCKED
>Decide that there must be a better way, NG+7 don't make this shit easy
>Decide to explore a little more
>Find another boss, a cool dragon (Who's the only being in existence who knows how to breath fire AND move at the same time)

>Dealing barely any damage

quick
what's the highest DPS weapon at 40/40

I need the big guns
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>>172342357
just done it on SL163 NG+3
fucking cunt
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>>172342715
What screenshots?
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>>172339468
not really that hard imo

https://my.mixtape.moe/wpwmle.webm, died like two times on my sl 65 character
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>>172342212
>think they should have added frost as a magic type
I think they should FIX sorcery magic and everything related to sorcery, hex and faith.
>Murky Longstaff
Absolutely useless. It's "Sage" staff for dark spells. Deals less dark damage than court lmao.
>Great Soul Dregs
Deep Soul has better tracking than this shit lmao
>Moonlight
Looks cool. No range. Useless
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>>172342790
Refined Broadsword
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Is there a single reliable way to dodge demon prince's meteor shower yet? Or am I just doomed once he starts it up?
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>>172342790
any curved sword
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>ringed knight drops something
>titanite chunks

I don't want your dumb chunks, can these cunts drop their armor already?
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>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>UNABLE TO SUMMON PHANTOM

FUCK
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>>172342983
Stagger him
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>>172340628
>120 is overleveled

https://www.destructoid.com/review-dark-souls-iii-the-ringed-city-427090.phtml
http://www.shacknews.com/article/99533/dark-souls-3-the-ringed-city---how-to-access-the-ringed-city-dlc
https://www.pcinvasion.com/dark-souls-3-ringed-city-dlc-guide-part-1-dreg-heap

>From Software recommends a Soul level of 125 for the add-on.
>FromSoftware recommends attempting the new areas and bosses with characters at Level 125 or higher.
>The pre-release blurb suggested level 125 for this DLC
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>>172342790
Hit the damn thing in the head, tights and tail
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>>172342983
Run up to him and smack him around
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>get the repeating crossbow
>upgrade to +5
>oh yeah nigga time to try this out
>massively inaccurate, barely any damage

Did I just get jew'd out of my Gael soul?
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>mad phantom named THIS IS SPARTA at Midir
>summon him for shits and giggles
>he kicks me down the hole
It's like this was his one moment to shine.
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>>172343039
you can easily do this under level 70 >>172342843. the recommended level is for scrubs. you're not a scrub, are you?
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>>172342983
Run up to him and smack him
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>>172343124
Pretty good
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>>172342983
It takes a billion years to max out to full power. Run up to him and kick him in the little princes until he loses concentration and the ball collapses.
Then Run.
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This dragon needs to chill. You don't get to one shot someone with 43 vig
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>>172341795
>"abhorrent things" that invaded and made their home
>invaded

Head. Canon.
>>
>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
I can't summon anybody for Sister Friede because summon signs immediately disappear.
It's a real hot pot here.
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>>172342790
I always liked it how the games historically conveyed that it took a shitload of physical effort for dragons to breathe fire. It isn't easy for them, they really have to stop and brace themselves
>>
How do I beat Midr?
Every time I approach him to hit him, the faggot jumps away, I can barely deal damage to him because he just doesn't stay put.
>>
Did the bosses get slower in DaS3? I used to never be able to pull of a heavy soul arrow, but now I can do it all the time.
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>>172342843
The purple AOE shit you got hit by at the end literally one shotted me on NG+3.
>>
>Looks like BK Glaive
>Has Halberd Moveset
>Weapon type is literally called Halberd
>Has spinning attack common to Halberds
>Splitleaf GREATSWORD

?????????????????
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>>172343261
You do if they play this dlc past ng+
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>>172338529
Gnaw doesn't sound too peaceful
>>
>>172343039
>NG
>120SL
LMAO
>>
Is murky staff better than izalith at 40/40?
>>
what the fuck are those humanity dolls after a location's name on the bonfire lists?
>>
>>172343279
>Midir only joined the dark because someone mentioned moving and breathing fire at the same time
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>>172343146
I have an SL 9 twink that I'm about to go through it with since I'd already got him up to twin princes for the hunter's ring, save your no-true-scottsman shit for people who're as dumb as you are. 120 is definitively not overleveled. You might think it's for scrubs, but if that's the case, then that just means scrubs aren't overleveled. Case closed.
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Please tell me Midir has this attack.
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>>172343069
>>172343035
>>172343179
>>172343225
is it that easy? last I tried that the host and me and 2 other phantoms impaled his nuts like madmen and still he cast that shit
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>>172343341
I want to say they have clearer windups compared to DaS 2, but the attacks animations are probably faster.
>>
Quick, favorite new weapon from the TRC?
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>Give pigment to painter loli
>nothing happens
So this... is... the true power... of DARK SOULS

prety anticlimactic
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>>172343395
Murky staff is wore than Izalith, but its buff makes its damage barely win over Izalith

>>172343364
Trying this on NG++++ or something. But still, Prince didn't do this much damage.
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>>172343419
120 is overleveled, retard.
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>>172342843
I fought him on NG+2 and at the meta lv so he would 1-3 hit kill me while I did measily dmg. But honestly, it's not all that bad once you get used to him. His breathe and rake attacks can kindly fuck off.
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>>172343436
Not but it have a even worst attack on his tail
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>>172343525
That isn't for you to decide, retard. It was built around 125. That's an objective fact.
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Killed Gael, but I haven't beat the spazdrake yet.
Can I still get the covenant?
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>>172343441
It pops over his head and then shoots down on his position. After you stagger him, run away and it'll miss you completely.
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>>172343269

Try using dried finger, worked for me when I had the same problem and I still only summoned 1 guy + gael (mostly because I'm on NG+ and didn't give a fuck, just want to get to the new DLC I've already beaten friede several times even at SL35).

On another note, holy fuck the demon prince fight as my first fight was INSANE, took me a couple of tries but man that was a blast. I'm spoiler free atm but if someone could just tell me the total NUMBER of bosses in the game (not anything about them), that'd be great. Wondering how many boss fights I get to have from the DLC, Demon Prince was stellar.
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>>172343436
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>>172343465
DUAL
ULTRA
GREAT
SWORDS
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>>172343441
The longer you let him cast his spell, the more meteors he'll throw at you. If you stagger him, you'll have less meteors to dodge.
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>>172343441
Maybe the excessive number of phantoms is the problem? There wasn't a situation where I tried staggering him out of it that I wasn't able to. Or maybe it's because I was using the Dragonslayer Spear.

>>172343436
Not that that exactly, but he does have a mean tail sweep the size of Anor Londo.
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>>172343617
Yes
>>
Ahhh yes. Time to dick Filanore and make her my cumslut.

>>172343487
Is there any hidden endings? I mean, giving her the dark soul would unlock something right?
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>>172343614
>It was built around 125. That's an objective fact.
It's not. That's an objective fact.
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>>172343617
Yes, spazdrake drop the covenant item
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>>172343623
>mostly because I'm on NG+
I'm too and I'm starting to think it has to do with the new connection I have since playing last.

However, I was able to get summoned.
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>>172343721
https://www.destructoid.com/review-dark-souls-iii-the-ringed-city-427090.phtml
http://www.shacknews.com/article/99533/dark-souls-3-the-ringed-city---how-to-access-the-ringed-city-dlc
https://www.pcinvasion.com/dark-souls-3-ringed-city-dlc-guide-part-1-dreg-heap

>From Software recommends a Soul level of 125 for the add-on.
>FromSoftware recommends attempting the new areas and bosses with characters at Level 125 or higher.
>The pre-release blurb suggested level 125 for this DLC
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>no serpent shit despite a few random statues that have weird bodies again
>turns out the ringed city isnt related to londor
>wont ever meet the final sister of the sable church
>none of the angel shit gets answered
>pilgrims still vague as fuck
Fuck you Miyazaki.
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>>172342138

Correct, but without the seal anyone with the Dark Soul comes back after death. The seal, when at full power during the Age of Fire, allows humans to die and keeps the illusion of life going for everyone. The Darksign only appears on those with the Dark Soul, no one else because it's a seal, and not the general illusion that affects everyone else. Everyone can hollow, only Dark Soul owners can revive themselves. Slave Knights were Dark Soul owners were used in the past because they could not stay dead, thereby winning any battle by attrition. Gael is an extreme of someone who managed throughout time to keep to his duty and fight over and over. He's a crazy badass. Until we strip him of his soul, because we're a grim reaper because game mechanics, though the Gods did have that power themselves, too.
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>>172343419
>l-l-logical fallacy
lmao

120 is definitely overleveled. /dsg/ is mostly 120 and is having no trouble with it whatsoever, and /dsg/ is fucking terrible at dark souls, me included.

Hell, just look at how dumb the average host is when you fight as a spear of the church. They're fucking stupid but can still bruteforce the shit out of the dlc because they're 120 (of 16 encounters i registered yesterday before i got bored of it, 12 were 120~125).

I'd say you can tackle this shit on NG at SL80 and still be fine, specially with how infusions work now.
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>>172342806
Oh god, I'm only sl114...Thank fuck I got my autism regen items...
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>>172343719
It should, yes.
But does it? Hell no
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>>172343690
>>172343727
But I heard you can't invade at the boss fight if spazdrake is beaten after Gael.
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>>172342715
>Thats its?

That fight wasn't gigga nigga enough for you?

Seriously, the 3rd phase is insane. Manus had nothing on it.
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>>172343263
>the Deep was once a peaceful and sacred place, but became the final resting place for many abhorrent things. -- Deep Protection

The Deep once had no Abhorrent things (no Abyssal influence)

Then a bunch of Abyss monsters MADE it their final resting place. Now there are abhorrent things in the Deep (Abyssal things) that weren't there originally. Hence why it had to become the home of these things, instead of inherently being the home of these things. Therefore Abyssal influence is foreign and also unwelcome and harmful to the Deep.

For your sake I hope that English isn't your first language and that's why you don't understand this, because the alternative is that you're an idiot, just like everyone else who unironically tries to argue that Kaathe and the Abyss dindu nuffin wrong
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>>172343874
Honestly, the host is pretty disadvantaged when you 3-gank them as a spear, I looked like a retard with an autistic fit when I won my first match after the first failed try.
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>>172343465
LEDO'S
GREAT
HAMMER
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>>172343874
>m-m-m-muh opinion

https://www.destructoid.com/review-dark-souls-iii-the-ringed-city-427090.phtml
http://www.shacknews.com/article/99533/dark-souls-3-the-ringed-city---how-to-access-the-ringed-city-dlc
https://www.pcinvasion.com/dark-souls-3-ringed-city-dlc-guide-part-1-dreg-heap

>From Software recommends a Soul level of 125 for the add-on.
>FromSoftware recommends attempting the new areas and bosses with characters at Level 125 or higher.
>The pre-release blurb suggested level 125 for this DLC

you can beat the game just fine at SL1, that doesn't mean SL2 is overleveled
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>>172338732
They work just fine for me, anon.
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>>172343412
Hell, if the dark would let me cast and move at the same time I'd inject abyss straight into my prostate.
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>>172343771
>From Software recommends
>recommends
>"It was built around 125"
>recommends
Try harder pls. And google AoA "recommended lvl". You just make exuses to justyfy your shittery.
>BB CD recommended level was 150 BL+
I bet you're same guy from /bbg/ who beat MP at 170BL
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>Try to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>2 minutes later, accidentally fall off ledge
>Quick quit game attempt
>Quit game is greyed out as if i have a phantom with me
>Die
Thanks
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>>172343887
Nonsense, just equip the covenant item and wait for someone to get into the boss arena and hope you are the one that's fighting him
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>>172343771
that's considering the average player who put points into vit and other useless stats. All you need is 30 vit, 20 endurance and 40 of either dex or str and you'll be fine.

>>172343996
>appealing to "authority"
if fromsoft said it it must be truth
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>>172343374
Gnaw is a foreign element to the Deep that isn't supposed to be there, see Deep Braille Divine Tome and Deep Protection descriptions.
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>>172343887
I killed Gael, and then M'dear, and I'm sitting here annihilating hosts

It's fine, trust me
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>revicing argo lets ledo invade
>good shit
>get his hammer
>60 str min and 28 weight
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>>172343623
There are 3 bosses in the DLC and one boss encounter that sorta counts as a boss?

It's Old Monk

Demon Princes probably have the least amount of work put into them
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http://gematsu.com/2017/03/dark-souls-iii-director-not-concerned-whether-not-next-game-resembles-dark-souls

>With the second expansion released, that means that the series is complete.
>Miyazaki: “As I’ve said from the beginning, there are no further developments planned at the moment, at least.”

>Where you able to do everything you wanted to do?
>Miyazaki: “I can’t really say that I was able to do everything. As is the case with all of the games I’ve directed, each entry in the Dark Souls series has its own problems, and I carry those blunders. However, I think that even on this premise, Dark Souls was a happy series.”

>What kind of game would you like to develop in the future?
>Miyazaki: “Since I’ve already started work on several, it would be a spoiler if I said something. One thing I can say is that our stance on game production has not changed. In making a new game, we’re not being conscious of making something that resembles Dark Souls, or on the other hand of making something that doesn’t resemble Dark Souls. Not being concerned about whether it is similar to Dark Souls, I plan on making a game that I want to make now, and that is interesting and worthwhile.”
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>>172343465
Gael's greatsword is pretty fun in PVP so far, it might go full farron and suck once people learn its moveset, but I'm having a lot of fun invading rn.
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>>172343719
WH-WHAT?! NO! MY EYES! I STILL WANNA FUCK IT!
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>>172343996
Looks like you don't even understand difficulty concept in DS.
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>>172343092
Yes you did.
>>172343772
>Not londor....
>Not Londor
>NOT FUCKING LONDOR
MIYAZAKI YOU GOD DAMN FUCKBOY! YOU ONLY HAD ONE JOB AND WE WANTED LONDOR!
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anyone else getting an infinite loading screen when trying to access dlc
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Is this literally the worst DLC?
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>>172344127
good on for miyazaki, he should be allowed to make vidya without executive meddling from bamco and the like.
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET PASSED THE ARROW FAGS

>>172342124
IS this in the Earthen peak ruins?
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>>172343678
>Not that that exactly, but he does have a mean tail sweep the size of Anor Londo.

Will have to do. tfw no dragon to sit on you
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Is Splitleaf Greatsword as good as I think it is?

Basically a BK Glaive except with S str scaling when heavy infused and gets 549/599 AR when 1/2 handing it at 66 str, AND you can buff it too. On top of that, the Wind Wheel WA is actually quite legit, though I'm still learning how best to utilize it. I'm not really sold yet on the WA into light attack which does a double spin move, but the heavy attack that does some shaolin leap shit is definitely legit for PvP imo. I believe the lawnmower effect is great for wakeups too, and doesn't even use FP. At the very least in PvE I literally just windmill'd the shit out of the demon prince so I'd say it's quite good against any boss that does any sort of big flashy attack, you just blender them and end with a heavy attack that also does a ton more damage due to the charge up.

First weapon you get in the DLC2 but honestly I'm loving it, gonna finish the whole DLC with it. In all honesty I think it works best with a WA shield mostly because I hate the 2H double twirl shit glaives get on their R2 compared to the horizontal slash while 1H which is actually useful.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND, GAEL
ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH ANOTHER SWING OR NOT
MAKE UP YOUR MIND
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>172343719
Why did people ever think that completing DLC content would EVER directly change the events of the main game story? You realize that they have never ever done this and have a policy against doing this, right?
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>>172343874
I think SL 80 is a bit too low for it, at least on the first time around. I started trying at that level, but at some point during or after the Demon Prince fight I got tired of wasting souls and started leveling again, and even with a much improved stamina and health bar Gael was still no joke. I was consistently having to wait for the stamina to recharge all through the fight.

Finished the entire thing at around 100 and I'm thinking that's the general level the entire thing is most balanced for, providing ample challenge without Ringed Knights and Gael two-shotting you which I'm sure would have happened were I still at 80.
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>>172344169
>She was dead the whole time
>You find this out after being transported somewhere totally inconsistent with everything else in the game with no explanation
>People are already fighting each other over varying fanfics on the subject
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>>172344271
It's META. One hit = dead
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Man that Heavy Longsword +10 only does 121 damage to Midir. My greatsword was doing 281. I died around half health (NG+2, summoned shira so I could watch her get fucked.) The co-op thing really is a problem for him, isn' t it?
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So is anyone else doing shit for damage to demon prince? A friend and I are going through the dlc co-op and we cannot do any fucking damage to this guy on NG++. He's using Greatsword and I'm using greataxe
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Why does the weapon skill do no damage?
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>>172344308
I literally just finished it a 65. I'm a really bad pve player. 80 is fine, you're just not being pacient enough and probably want to facefuck things. SL100 and over is for facefucking things.
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>>172344036
>And google AoA "recommended lvl".
Really interesting how you didn't choose to actually provide your counter evidence yourself. Perhaps that's because it doesn't really exist?

https://www.destructoid.com/review-dark-souls-iii-the-ringed-city-427090.phtml
http://www.shacknews.com/article/99533/dark-souls-3-the-ringed-city---how-to-access-the-ringed-city-dlc
https://www.pcinvasion.com/dark-souls-3-ringed-city-dlc-guide-part-1-dreg-heap

>From Software recommends a Soul level of 125 for the add-on.
>FromSoftware recommends attempting the new areas and bosses with characters at Level 125 or higher.
>The pre-release blurb suggested level 125 for this DLC

>>172344063
>All you need is
what you will be fine with =/= what SL the DLC was built around, you can beat the game at SL 1

>appealing to "authority"
>appealing to the people who actually built the game
that's like saying I'm just appealing to authority when I say "rock beats scissors," it's just how the game was made anon
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>>172344375
Dex is bottom tier
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>>172343779
>Everyone can hollow, only Dark Soul owners can revive themselves
Nani? Respawning is an inherent feature of hollowing, right? I have never heard of this
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I DID IT LADS.

I DID IT.

I KILLED MIDIR.
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Anyone else enjoying being a huge slut again?
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Where do I go once I enter that mine shaft after the dragon bridge amd get invaded by that knight? I fell down the hole but it just loops around
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Ledos hammer is fucking insane.
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>>172344187
Looks like you don't have an argument
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>>172344127
Just reveal the next project, holy shit.
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>>172344547
That is one muscled slut.
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>>172344461
they built the game, doesn't mean they know how to play it.

i'm pretty sure i'm better at street fighter than fucking ono.
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>>172344114
>Demon Princes probably have the least amount of work put into them

Awesome, because his 2nd phase was fucking terrifying to me the first time I ran into it. If he's the worst of the bunch then I'm hype af.
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>>172337964
>not raping their ears as you thrust through their ashes
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>>172344541
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>>172344656
She needs that grip
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>>172344547
moar
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>>172344461
>Really interesting how you didn't choose to actually provide your counter evidence yourself
Easy. Post proofs of
>From Software recommends
Real proofs. Original source. And recommended =/= built around 125
.
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>>172344650
Blame! Souls
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OH I'M FUCKING SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW YOU NEEDED A DLC TO FUCKING DIE IN THIS GAME
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The NPC you can summon for Midir, Do you get anything for fighting with her? Do you get anything if you beat the boss with her still alive?
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Wheres the lighting arrow spell? searched entire dlc and cant find it.
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>>172344343

Already? Sweet. I just started playing through the DLC today so idk how the "meta" has really developed since it's been out less than a day.

What are people's thoughts on the WA? Or are they just using it as a high damage glaive and just R1'ing people to death? I just love polearms so it was a natural choice.
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>see demon king winding up to his meteor shower
>go to do the necessary thing to not die
>namely stagger him out of it
>either die by his previously cast fireballs because I have to stagger him and dont have time to dodge
>or dodge the fireballs trying to get the odd hit in but end up not doing enough, ultimately dying to a full on meteor shower

bravo
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Phase one of the Demon Prince is such a clusterfuck. Half the challenge comes from the camera, especially if both demons are up close.
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I beat Ringed City DLC without summons,
praise me guise
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>>172344461
here's polygon suggesting sl130 OR ABOVE for AoA
http://www.polygon.com/dark-souls-3-ashes-of-ariandel-guide/2016/10/27/13435162/beginners-guide-weapons-level-enemies-strategy-
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>>172344547
Wayyyyy ahead of you
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>>172344559
One of the rooms has another path, look carefully
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>>172336215
you will be mad, but more so because of difficulty than anything else.
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>>172344248
Use the stones as cover.
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>>172344834
did you pirate the dlc?
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>>172344461
>appealing to the people who actually built the game
That doesn't mean they play game. More important existence of "patches" actually proves otherwise.
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>>172341364
The moderator is being faggot, as bronies are wont to
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>>172344879
Now do it on NG+7~ like the rest of us are doing.
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>>172344952
No, I have bought the game.
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Does anyone else get the feeling that Midir is a bigger, more well developed version of the Oceiros fight?
>charge is pretty similar but now has a tell
>tail sweet is very similar

>>172344834
I got that a handful of times through the game too. Thankfully never during a boss though, unless you count Zoey as one.
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>>172344248
>IS this in the Earthen peak ruins?
no, way down the ringed city, down the set of stairs to the left
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Do I need to kill the twin princes to enter the dlc?
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>teaching sister how to play Dark Souls
>tell her about the claw grip
>she's never heard of it
>teach her
>she understands the potential
it's a long road, but hopefully she makes it.

She's playing without internet, so I don't have to worry about her cheating.
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>>172344968
i did it on NG+3
i don't feel like playing anymore, anon.
Memezaki did poop :^(
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>>172344658
The designers still set the standards. Personally I think going through the DLC is more enjoyable when underleveled. That doesn't mean I'm going to reassign the norm.

>>172344743
>asked for evidence
>"no you first!" when it's already been given
Yeah just throw the burden of proof whenever the ball is in your court anon, smooth one. Never prove anything, just deflect opposition then assume your claim is true by default. That's how argument works, right?
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>>172345028
Either TP or Friede
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>>172338990
They've spent too long waiting to be summoned and their muscles have atrophied.
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>>172344968
If I'm doing no damage on +2, how the fuck are killing bosses in +7?
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>>172344886
>>172344547
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>>172344306
>Why did people ever think that completing DLC content would EVER directly change the events of the main game story? You realize that they have never ever done this and have a policy against doing this, right?
Dark Souls 2. Getting all the DLC crowns unlocks all Memory Vendrick dialogue, and while Aldia's new ending doesn't strictly require you to beat the DLC (just killing Hollow Vendrick suffices) he references all the DLC before his boss fight. Aldia himself is also a major plot character who got added after release and follows you throughout your journey. Also while not a story event, it also had the small thing with the Priestess Eye key item from snow DLC that made the invisible NPCs in the woods permanently visible.

Ringed City wouldn't even have needed to be a new ending that affects the Kiln ones or takes place there, just maybe a new cutscene wrapping up the story concerning the painting and new credits sequence associated with it (but the main game continuing the same). Dragon's Dogma does that sort of thing with its DLC area that's otherwise completely separate from the main game story. A dialogue with "gee thanks for being the errand boy" is just lacking as the finale of the DLC story, not to mention as the last piece of content the series ever gets.
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>>172343948

Just because the abhorrent things DIED there doesn't mean that they weren't born there and became abhorrent. All beings besides the Dragons came from the Dark, a la Dark Souls 1's intro.

>For your sake I hope that English isn't your first language and that's why you don't understand this, because the alternative is that you're an idiot
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Is there a link for the scaling of every fully upgraded DLC weapon?
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>>172345136
I'm a darkmoon, can confirm.
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>>172345004
I like the fight, my only downside is that he has so much HP that it becomes a drag on higher cycles.
Even solo, while hitting his head, it takes ages on NG+2 and its starting to go in the direction of not-fun-anymore when i spend minutes carefully whitling away his HP only to get one-shot
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>>172345114
Post original source of
>From Software recommends
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>>172345028
I think you need to beat ashes of ariandel first. I've beaten all the bosses but the Nameless King and Gundyr in my current but I haven't linked the fire and I got in.
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Does Yuria mention/talk about shit when you get back to her?

She's ded in my game.
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>>172344968
Get a load of this prissy faggot. I'm on NG+7 naked fists only SL1
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>>172344225
Maybe if you weren't playing it sideways with the brightness set to 217 you'd be enjoying it more.
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>>172344656
>he doesn't want a girl to grab him by the hips and lift him up so she can suck his dick while working her arms and shoulder
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>>172345268
No, you'll just insist that "recommended =/= built" when it so clearly does. Post your source anon, surely you have at least one compared to my three :^)
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>>172344512

No, we go over this like every thread. Hollows are everyone's natural state. Undead come back because they're revived by other means or have a Dark Soul that isn't suppressed. Hollows are basically what everyone was before they had a soul.
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>>172345114
>The designers still set the standards.
Which clearly shows they have very little understanding of the game mechanics as a whole. Proven time and time again by their poor balancing, even.

125 is cakewalk level, literally devoid of struggle.
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So should I be interpreting looting Gael's soul as obtaining the Dark Soul?
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>>172338990
t.host whose blue didn't save him
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So, can anyone summarize all the Ringed City lore?
All this stuff with Gwyn and pygmies.
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>>172344127
>I-I don't wanna tell you but it'll be great I swear
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>>172345114
>The designers still set the standards
Where I can read official word from designers?
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>>172344225
>taking a picture of a screen
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getting a fair amount of fanmail from church goers
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>>172345334
Not for this DLC, no. There's no Lord of Hollows shit in this one at all. But it's not like you go to Londor or anything, so
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>>172345334
In case of Ariandel, yes.
Ringed City doesn't seem to add anything new.. Tried visiting her on few occasions, even with the pigment.
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This motherfucker has about 15480 HP on NG+ and hides his attack tells. To compare, Manus had 10k HP on NG+, and Pontiff has 7777. 13 Health Estus and a DB isn't enough for this guy.

Webm related, damage dealt and the bar drop used as reference.
https://my.mixtape.moe/alifeh.webm
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>>172345426
Statistically speaking you're probably one of the people in this thread who's been complaining about the DLC being too hard. All I'm getting at is that anyone below 125 has no excuse to complain about difficulty.
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>>172345141
My 40/40 Propaned Greatsword does no damage to Midr.

It's terrifying.
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>ledos hammer is fucking awesome
>weighs way too much no way you can get the poise to not get shit on by greatswords
>hammer moveset
Fug
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How the fuck I am supposed to kill Midir as a pyro on NG+? My demons scar and my split damage/buffed weapons all do like 60 damage. I tried lightning blade since he is a dragon and that didnt even make me do more damage than carthus. Only thing I can do is chaos orb him in the face for like 330, which appears to be like 1% of his health. I can never reach his head with my melee weapons.
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Are there any rips of the new dlc tracks yet?
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>>172345558
actually i thought it was too easy even at sl 65.
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>>172345549
Good
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Post yfw you beat the DLC and your rating for it.
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>>172345576
how much poise exactly do you need?
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>>172345182
Wow damn, back up there. There's a difference between DaS2+DLC and DaS2:SotFS. If you think they're the same from a business perspective, you gotta back up. They could do that ending shit in SotFS because of that loophole. To you, the player, it all looks the same, but it doesn't on the developer and business side of things.
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i enjoyed three out of four ringed city bossfights a lot

i would rather have had gravetender than midir
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Is this dragon serious?
When am I supposed to hit him
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Where do i find lapp after in the ringed city?, i already talked to him jn dreg heap and earthen peak, and i know you can find him in the ringed city
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>>172345576
Wolf Ring might help. It's for fine adjusting after all
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>>172345615

I have a Pyro in NG++ at SL130. Am I fucked?
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>>172345549
you're just sloppy. i'll admit in the first phase some of the wind-ups do look similar, but beyond that it's just rolling at the right at the right queue
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>>172345686
I get what you mean
He has a shitton of HP, does fuckloads of damage, and is hard to hit.
2 outta 3 and i would call him a-ok, but all 3 is a bit much to me
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>>172338178
i killed patches in the cathedral but i still finished his questline in the dlc
flow of time convoluted, etc etc.
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>>172345790
Yes, you need at least 180 if not 200.
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>Poised through a demon in pain attack and hit him with a ultra greatsword
I don't remember this being a thing
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>>172345650
Still waiting on the closure you'd expect from the last DLC of the last game of the series.

8/10
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>>172345680
Yeah, but consider the Dragon's Dogma expansion example with its own story, ending and credits roll. Like I said, it wouldn't have been necessary for a hypothetical Ringed City ending to overwrite or be more canon than base game ones.
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>>172345901
What do you mean?
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>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed>summoning failed

i wouldnt be mad if demon king was actually beatable on your own
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Strongest weapon pve? Been a while & haven't played since the first dlc. Was using yhorms, but has anything changed since?
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>>172345775
I have vilhelm set and wolf ring 3 for 32 poise

Went against exile sword fag and he hit me out of my attacks.

This thing weights 28 and has a min str of 60
Hard to build for it.
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Where do you even go in the swamp. it seems there isn't anywhere with cover that leads to anything. These angels are really shit and just make the already messy map more confusing because you can only observe the map from safe areas.
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>>172345650
I had no face
7/10
My hopes were dashed when they showed Gael's final form, I knew in that moment that everything was going to end as a joke
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fastest way to farm souls in this meme shit? I only have SL60 dudes and i'm too much of a shitter to beat demon dudes at this level
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>>172345972
lmfao
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>>172345972

>i wouldnt be mad if demon king was actually beatable on your own
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Somebody gives me a quick rundown on the lore.

Why the fuck is the painting so important?

Why does the princess sleep?

What IS the dark soul?

For once I'm glad they are starting to explain a lot of shit (like the fucked up landscape of the Dreg) and the consequences of the age of fire, but then there are just so many more things unexplained
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>everything turns to shit
>can still warp to and from
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>>172344306
>you realize they have never done this
>durr what is dark souls 2
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>>172339468
Yep. I always solo bosses and this one was a hoot. Took me 2 hours on NG++ but once I learned his pattern I beat him with 7 estus left.
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>>172345972
you are going to have a great time with the other bosses anon
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>>172345972
>Demon king
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This Mildir fight is god fucking awful. I can't stand enemies where every single motion they make is an attack. I get that he is a big ass dragon, but seriously the amount of health it has is just lazy.
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>>172345971
Like I was winding up with an attack, got hit by a swipe, and my attack still came through.
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>>172346000
how much poise do you need? 40?
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>going full Dante
>from in charge of making bosses
>will fling destructo disks and pop a cap with a crossbow mac-11
This is pure kino
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I literally can't do this anymore on NG 5, it's grueling, I'm fucking starting over in NG
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>>172345972
Laughed
>>172346102
Peed
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>>172345972
Easy boss, don't bother locking with the camera, and stick to his ass, just like with literally every other demon boss.
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>>172343092
>not getting the sword with the best WA so far
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>>172346159
Hyper armor has been a thing for a while now. It's also tied to the poise stat(not that straight forward though)
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>Try the dual Ultra Greatswords
>One hit kill combo

Damn.
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>>172345972
>i wouldnt be mad if demon king was actually beatable on your own
but i beat it just by myself anon, just keep trying
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>>172346150
All the bosses in the DLC aside from the NPC boss are overtuned. I can't believe how much health Gael has. It's like they took the total health of 3 phases of Friede THEN double it.
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if you need blood of the dark soul to paint a world, how did the painting in anor londo (das1) come to be?
did gwyn just wring some out of the pygmy?
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>summon a guy for midir NG+
>gets gibbed by his tail swipe for 800+ damage
not sure what i expected from a guy cosplaying as Artorias
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>>172346064

Because she wants to paint.

No one can figure out what the fuck is going on with her.

It's the soul that the Pygmies got. The power was sealed by Gwyn, likely because Dark Soul owners can straight out refuse to stay dead and it's closely associated with the Dark, which Gwyn despises.
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>>172346102
please do tell me if there is more of these shitty, lazy multi-phase, multi-enemy bosses, so I can drop the DLC right here
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>revive judicator at the purging monument to farm slabs becasue some anons said it's possible
>boss only drops a spear ornament, no slab
I knew you fags were full of shit.
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>>172345978
Ringed knight dual ultras with 31 stam stunlock all mobs and deal 2300 damage in a full bar.

Its a quality weapon c in str d in dex
I had 40 str 16 dex
The l1 opens with a lunging stab charge
This weapons bonkers.
You have to time your dodge or else the user can delay the third l1 and roll catch you in another combo.
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>>172345631
So then you're the same guy who threw out that AoA claim then completely dropped it when asked for evidence.
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>>172346064
>Why the fuck is the painting so important?
From Software is going to do ARG for their new upcoming secret definitely-not-yet-another-Souls-game with the painting being its world and lore, and the name for the game or its universe is going to be voted from player names (barring silly ones of course) that finished both DLCs.

It's gonna happen.
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>Just Killed Midir by spamming Lightning arrows and slamming his big dumb face with sunlight spears when he gets too close
Took a few goes, got one shot a few times but it all worked out. Yay.
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>>172345972
get gael helping you
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>>172345442
>pygmies are the primeval men spoken of in AotA
>their knights can draw on both Fire and Dark for their power, and are the human equivalent to Gwyn's Silver Knights. Darkwraiths are, incidentally, trying to imitate these guys but failing miserably.
>they joined on the war against the Everlasting Dragons alongside the Lords, but their presence in the conflict was stricken from records.
>as thanks for their service, as well as for "taking the Dark Soul", Gwyn crowns a Lord/various Lords amongst the Pygmies, and gifts them their own city at the ends of the world, a closed-off Anor Londo where they can live in peace, as well as his youngest daughter, who becomes a subject of worship, and a giant Abyss-corrupted dragon that nevertheless fought alongside the gods against the powers of the Abyss.
>Pale Demon Taxi Service opens a subsidiary on the Ringed City as well
>at some point, however, the gods place a seal of fire on the Ringed City, for reasons unknown beyond to contain the power of the Ringed Knights, whose power is drawn partially from the Abyss
>the Ringed City also starts having problems with the Abyss of their own, vast sections of the city sink under an abyssal lake that starts spawning abyss locusts to convert/devour the population.
>all this time Filianore sleeps for some purpose unknown, it's even more impossible to known for certain than the Untended Graves.

There's no mention whatsoever of the Furtive Pygmy, which could have interesting implications depending on how you look at it from a lore standpoint.
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>>172346329
They didn't need it, they just needed some kind of blood. Ariandel was restoring the painting with his own blood.
Gael's entire plotline is a matter of "my painter niece wants this one specific thing and I will die getting it for her"
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>>172346327

They just have massive damage reduction, which is never fun.
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>>172346350
:^)
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were these guys the original waifufags?
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>>172346064

Because the loli wants to paint a painting.

dunnolol, guess it protects the ringed city from being swallowed up like everything else, which is why it looks fine even though Anor Londo, Drangleic and Lothric have all been swallowed up by the dredge. When she wakes up i don't know if you get sent to the future or it just acts as if it had been swallowed up when everything went to shit.

The dark soul is a soul that is dark and belongs to humans because the pigmy took it.
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>>172346286
I haven't played in a while, not since ashes came out. I swear I remember getting hit out of attacks constantly
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How do you deal with the 5 gorillion Haralds on those stairs? i just get wrecked instantly and have to run all the way back to get wrecked again
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>>172346026
I was at lvl 96 or somewher around ther3
Respawning spear of the church cost 49500 souls and he drops 84300 without bonuses.
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Gael did nothing wrong
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So when are we getting Dark Souls III: Scholar of the first Ash to fix this shit game?
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>>172346559
Kukris stun them, otherwise lure them one by one into the room with the turtle cunts.
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>>172345650
5-6/10
demons has shit camera
gael has bloated health
churches fight is absurd
ambushes out the ass
a few neat enemies tho
the archers bit had cool presentation

maybe im just hard to impress now
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So now that the series is done for.

Who is the best waifu?
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Where the fuck is Gael
I looked everywhere past filianore
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>>172345953
I can't disagree with that point. Many DLCs are self contained like that, but there's a huge stink when games have the TRUE ENDING and stuff locked behind DLC (that one prince of persia). That's where the policy to not do that comes from. But yeah, I honestly wish the DLCs worked with each other more. Like, doing what you're suggesting like DD did, but have that under multiple dlcs, if they're going to do it like that. Their DLCs are horrifically small and always have been, so it'd be better if they functioned together as a side game of sorts. You could say DaS2 did that, but there was no interaction between the DLCs themselves, and that feels bad man.
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>>172346438
Aren't locusts like scholars/preachers of the Ringed city? They seem to have kept their sanity, being able to communicate properly. The only thing fucked up is their inability to control their hunger.
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>>172345650
Gameplay-wise I give it a full 10.
Lorewise it's a 7
As a grand finale for the franchise it's a 4.
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>>172344306
except that one time where they did it, the absolute madmen.
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Where do you find lapp?
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>>172346627
Weaponsmith Ornifex
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>>172345650
I'm still waiting for someone to find the super secret ending that involves some obscure questline
hopefully
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>>172346559

Plunge attacking one shots them.
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theres no need to paint nice cold and dark world
just go chill at abyss
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I enjoyed the DLC and all the fights but the end felt very disappointing. Why Gael? You have this great series and lore and you waste it on someone we barely know?
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>>172346717
Go back to the church in dreg heap with the 2 knights, run past and on the pillar; he'll be around there. Afterwards he'll move to the peak bonfire. havent found him afterwards yet
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>>172346438
>Furtive Pygmy

I'm guessing the Kings that Gael suck on a pretty close to the originals, if not the originals that found the Dark Soul in the beginning.

Them being tucked away in the Egg (that's where they reside; you can see their thrones), would lend credence to this.
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>>172339468
3 Tries on NG+, final attempt took like half an hour at least.
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>>172346627
there's was always only one right answer
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>>172346678
Follow the trail the pygmy lord leaves in the ground dude
They really fucked up with his boss room btw, the concept is cool but the execution is rushed and lazy as fuck
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>Fear not the dark, my friend
>And let the feast begin
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>>172346350
but a multi phase enemy is the opposite of lazy as it objectively requires more work than a singular enemy.
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>>172343890
What third phase?
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

This dragon is STRONK, killed all the other DLC bosses first try but i'm already on round 8 on this fucker.
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So what happens if the spear disconnects mid fight?
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>>172346098
They did not do that in Dark Souls 2, they did that in Dark Souls 2: Scholar Of The First Sin, a rerelease of Dark Souls 2 with added content. There is a difference. Wait for the SOTFS style version of dark souls 3, bruh. never ever
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>>172346682
I don't think the locusts are natural inhabitants of the Ringed City, no. I can't quote specific item descriptions at the moment since I don't have them memorized yet and there's probably not enough online documentation for it all yet, but with the way sections of the city are sinking into the waters and the locusts are described as rising from it to convert others, but unable to think past their own stomachs, it's almost a given that they're not native to the place.

Also they're not exactly "sane", only one of them actually talks to you and he's not the most stable character ever.
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>>172346350
>>172345972
This general really became shitter central
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>You never actually acquire the dark soul, just some bullshit blood of the dark soul that Miyazaki pulled out of his ass last minute
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Anything special happen if you let the crawling Pygmy Lord reach Filianore? Any dialogue after completion with the first talking NPC at the Ringed City?
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>>172346416
You don't have any evidence about
>From Software recommends
All official japanese sites don't have any information about recommended level. Even ign,jp, even famitsu, gamespark except "you should able to beat Lothric". AoA for example was designed around 50-70SL. Why? Because of weapon upgrade materials.
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>>172345650
proof that literally nothing would make you miserable fucks happy/10
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Okay so I've a question. I've come to the conclusion manus was one of two things.

Option 1: the sorcerer who fell to the abyss as mentioned in that one bow description and since it has to do with the tale of artorias it makes sense

Option 2: one of the pygmy lords/ a descendent of the pygmy. I came to this conclusion due to him being called "primevil man" which would mean he isn't necessarily the first man but one of the first


I highly doubt he was the furtive pygmy himself. However it could've easily been a mixture of the two stories where he was one of the first men who happened to be a sorcerer who fell to the abyss.


What do you guys think? I know it was assumed Manu's created the abyss but what I think likely happened was that most but the lords(Gwyn and co) didn't know about the abyss in the first place but rather just the dark which was assumed to be less hostile than the abyss but a danger non the less. What are your thoughts?
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Sooooo
Where do you actually fight Gael?
Is it at the end of the world? Is it in the far far future? Has everything been an illusion?

Correct me if I am wrong, but the HUB Firelink Shrine isn't actually set in the same time period as the rest of the game. When you go there in the past you essentially find a dark and empty shrine because the firekeeper who was supposed to lead Gundyr to fight Lothric and Lorian was not there to recieve Gundyr.

So Gundyr stood guard to test the mettle of Ash until the Champion of Ash appeared. And now there is a firekeeper, hence the reason why you can actually get the ability to link the flame.

After you collect the remains of the lords of cinder, you are transported into the future (or the actual present) where the world is so fucked up at the brink of destruction?
Or is that just an alternate take on reality?
Well in this future/reality we eventually find the Ringed City.
HOW MANY FUCKING LAYERS ARE WE ON?!
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>>172337475
>DaS3 Dragons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvYApd_X3aU
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>>172346978
hit the head and don't summon NPC.
I did it with Yhorms blade
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>>172347112
/dsg/ and /v/ have always generally been bad at these games. Just look at that sad pvp tourney recently.
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Does it matter if Lapp gets the treasure for you?
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Anyone know what Divine Spear Fragment does yet?
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>>172347158
>tfw you collect all the great souls but the dark soul in the first game
>tfw it's never mentioned afterward until PoA
>tfw when the one thing you've played three games to get is just eaten by some literal nobody
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>>172347158

We were the Dark Souls™ all along.
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>>172345208
Then using that phrase at all is sloppy and counterintuitive in comparison to saying things like "these Abyssal things CAME from the Deep," because the latter actually bothers to highlight how the origin point of the insects was the Deep. Instead the description highlights the contrast between the Deeps' "normal"/peaceful state and it's state after playing host to Abyss creatures like Gnaw (which are most certainly NOT peaceful), a contrast further highlighted with the use of "BUT it became the final resting place..." which serves to state that these two states of being are in opposition, not agreement. Beware choosing obtuse or roundabout interpretations of text, it is the sign of desperation.

Furthermore, if the Deep was always the Abyss, "dark tales" describing the Abyssal nature of it wouldn't have to be "added later," they would always always be there. Inb4 this means that they were surpressing positive-oriented Abyss stories, this is false because miracles don't have to worship their objects, they can be cautionary in nature, like everything coming out of Londor.
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>>172345650
I really liked it as gameplay content, but not as the series finale everyone was expecting. 10/10 just for getting my set back, but actually really only about 8/10.
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>>172347087
actually atleast 2 or 3 talk to you
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How does Gael stack up to the other 3 bosses?
Spear was a joke once i wasnt acting retarded, Demon was a nice challenge were my BK weapons shined one last time.
Midir still lives and i fucking hate this fight on NG+2
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>>172347234
Get out lorefag. No one wants you or your autism here
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>>172347234

I think he is the pygmy because that way you kill all the original lords in dark souls 1.
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>>172347270
Time is convuluted anon
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>>172346820
Because the DLC was developed after the main game and the biggest complaint with the main game was that it sucked of DaS too much, so the final encounters in the final DLC are all unique to DS3
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>>172346891
Alright cool, thanks
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what the fuck is this garbage
who came up with this row of 9 fat fucks in this giant staircase
fuck tanimura
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Remove locusts
Remove dark
Gwyn dindu nuffin
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WHY IS THERE LIGHTNING
THERE IS NO EXPLANATION FOR THE LIGHTNING
IT ADDS NOTHING GOOD TO THE FIGHT
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>>172347340
He's the best one in the DLC but he's still just slightly above average. DS3 really dropped the ball.
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>>172346810
Fear not, the dark, my friend
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>>172347185
He dies as he approaches her room.
No effects beyond that.
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>>172347319
i just want to touch Karla under her robe then i can give a 9/10.
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>Soul of the Blood of the Wolf
>Blood of the Dark Soul
What's all this shit about souls having blood and blood having souls ?
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>>172346852
>tucked away in the Egg (that's where they reside; you can see their thrones)

I'm sorry, this needs to be clarified.
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>>172346990
Nothing, the fight just continues for the host.

>>172347185
He suddenly dies a little ways away from it.
The Old Hag appears to be dead, but a new Angel is flying in the background, so it's probably her.
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>>172346064
There is no lore, just some shit Miyazaki strung together because it looked neat. The real dark souls lore is that none of that shit matters because entropy will take its course.
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How do i even fight Halflight?
I already killed Gael.

Not that i look forward to this since it's "PVP boss"
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If lapp recovers his memories he dies or what?
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>>172347340
One of the best bosses in the game. Only certain BB bosses I'd compare to Gael because he's better than any DS1 and DS2 (by far) boss.
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>>172347324
Oh, are they different locusts?
I just thought it was the same one at different places. Having tried killing him at the first spot he appears to confirm that
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>entered a fight club at Pontiff Sulyvahn arena
>host is in there fighting someone
>gets his ass kicked
>he has no health left, opponent attempting to kill him with throwing knives
>he runs out of the arena like a bitch
>throw kukri
>host dies
You're welcome.
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>>172347518
Bloodborne reference.
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>>172347603
No.
You find out who he is
Spoilers:
He's Patches
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Dear Myazaki
can you make your bosses not shit? Running for 75% of the fight to be in the proper position to deal damage isnt hard, its stupid and annoying. Your dragon is a shit boss.

>inb4gitgud

I beat the boss by myself already. Its still a shitty design. All that running just pisses me off.
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>>172347270

Time is convoluted so who gives a shit. But imo, dark souls 3 takes place in the "present", the shrine where you fight champion gundyr is in the "past"(this is really obvious because of what the old woman says if you talk to her for the first time after talking to her in the champion gundyr shrine), and where you fight soul of cinder/dredge heap is the future.

The Ringed City is in the future, but it's not fucked because of whatever filianore is doing, when you wake her up then it retroactively fucks it up as if the protection spell or whatever had never been in place, alternatively, it sends you into the far future which kinda makes sense because the dredge heap is gone and the sun is whole again, but also doesn't make sense because why would that happen?

tl;dr: dunnolol
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>>172346416
nope. i'm the guy who pasted the polygon review that suggested sl130 for aoa
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>>172347395
I like to think he was a desdendant of the pygmy. But it is possible. Maybe it wasn't even the pygmy but the abyss controlling and mutating his corpse. Either way it's fun to guess. I like learning and speculating about the dark and abyss.


Also kaathe is best snek
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>>172347446
It looks cool
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>>172347519

When you beat Gael, you see their thrones in a circle.

They're also not in TRC themselves -- you have to go into/wherever the Egg takes you to find the Pygmy Kings (or what's left of them); Gael got there before you.

Gwyn most likely locked them away because they had the Dark Soul with them. Whether it's a pocket world or the end of time, it doesn't say.
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>>172347528

I meant the one dude right before the archer bridge.
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>Beat Midir for the first time
>On NG+4

Fucking hell that was rough. Good fight, though I was disappointed he only got one new attack in Phase 2.
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>>172347282
Makes a chuck of spears spawn from the earth and has lasting AoE which helps a lot as a Spear of the Church. You can only use this during a spear invasion. Spear spear spear.
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>>172347270
Also ringed city takes place way in the future of main game, the dragon slayer armor description says it was destroyed by the champion of ash then it sunk to the ringed city over "ages"
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AHAHAHAHA HE'S JUST A RED ARTORIAS
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>>172347636
This feels like a bb boss in the good way
Long fight he has fast attacks with mixups but perfect hitboxes.
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SAY IT
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GOD BLESS THIS HAMMER
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>>172347727
Ringed City is probably in the future at the end of the world, but where the pygmy lords are can't be, because it's inconsistent with what we know about Lothric Castle at the end of the world.
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>>172347819
Oh, he's fucking gone.
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>>172347824
Yeah, his head shoulda burst open into a bunch of hydra heads imo.
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Do I have to kill midir on the bridge before I can fight him in his fog room?

I can't enter the boss fog, also I haven't entered the slumber boss room beyond the big gates (presumably filianor?)
>>
Best place to farm for the new covenant without having to PvP?
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>>172347313
>Finally meet a pygmy king
>Help us filianore
>The red hood has come to eat our Dark Souls™
>Gael fight
>Ahhh so this is the blood, the blood of the Dark Souls™

So this is the genius of Miyazaki
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>You'll never have Gael's +2 Cloak of Early Roll Punishing
>>
>mid bossfight
>you do not own rights to this DLC, back to main menu

Boy I'm sure glad I bought the season pass
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>>172347937
kek
>>
Can you eat the dark soul?
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>>172347853
He's a red Artorias in the same way Gwyn is just a broken sword hollow with a beard.
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Is Patches a god?
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>>172347929

The only explanation i can think of is that the egg sends you even further into the future, i don't know.
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>>172347845
So essentially you go into the future (this is the same timeline where you fight Soul of Cinder as the flame is at it's weakest) and try to... what again? Find the Dark Soul? Fillianore is just sitting there with the egg and I do believe in >>172347727 the protection spell. But does that mean you are sent EVEN FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE? Or is the protection spell affecting the ENTIRE WORLD? And where does the Pygmies come from? Where are they in the current world when you touch the egg?
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>>172348062
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>>172347785
It's gotta be a pocket dimension for the sake of there being a pocket dimension, because we're at the end of time earlier and it looks nothing like that.
I really wish the game gave us fucking something about the entire Fillianore situation
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>>172345420
>Hollows are basically what everyone was before they had a soul.
Yes but I was under the impression that hollows, regardless of origin, respawned. Because the alternative is that death existed before fire, during the age of ancients, since the idea that only Dark Soul bearers respawn would mean that all the hollows before Fire birthed the Dark Soul would be dying "as normal." But this is in direct contradiction with the idea that Death is a construct of Fire, which is stated plainly in DaS1's intro. Also tying the power to respawn to the power of the Dark Soul is odd because isn't roster would mean that if you lost your Dark Soul you would lose this power -- plainly not true, since hollows (who have no souls of any type) respawn.
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>>172348019

>Lapp kicks you down a cliff because he's patches dude remember patches lol
>Perhaps there's something between you and I...a Dark Souls™
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>>172346402
Any weapons before this DLC that are op for pve?
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>cosplay Abyss Watcher, because I still do that
>get summoned as a dark spirit for a duel
>artorias
>fucker doesn't even look like artorias
>he uses Friede's Great Scythe
>spin through it, hit him several times, killing him
do people still die to this shit, it's the easiest fucking greatsword to dodge.
>inb4 simultaneous post about how OP Farron Greatsword is
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What the fuck was the Spear of the Church fight?
I oneshot the phantom as he spawned in with a charged Ledo's Greathammer r2 and feel like i missed out
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>>172347314

>Beware choosing obtuse or roundabout interpretations of text, it is the sign of desperation.

The desperation is on your part, because one of the official definitions of the term "obtuse" is Dark Souls. And there's nothing roundabout with my explanation, you're just fighting it incessantly when there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

As for the Miracles, other tales were tossed into the stories to get a different effect from the tomes and people. Londor had an agenda to push. Religions do it all the time.
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>>172348085
Past the end of the world? Then there would be no Lothric Castle or Anor Londo at all.
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>>172346936
lazy on the developers side. boss not hard enough? dont wanna put any effort in? wanna stretch dlc length? put two of them and revive one after death!
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>>172348245
Old monk
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>struggling hard at SL120 NG++
>shit tier connection so I can't even summon or be invaded to pop a seed and get some temporary help

just
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This DLC would've been god tier in DaS 1, hell even DaS 2. Since it's in DaS 3, with its plethora of gameplay faults, the least of which being """""poise""""", it's a mediocre DLC with a nice aesthetic.
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OKAY
SO LEMME GET THIS STRAIGHT

>everybody has a dark soul
>Gwyn locked it inside us with the dark sign/filianore
>we break filianore
>Gael wants to give painter chick
>painter wants it because?????
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>>172347282
you get poise and if you don't move they stay up

cooldown is kind of long
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>>172348196
I use the Exile Greatsword, it has alot of damage and the only downside is you need to be really close to use it.
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>>172348017
Nigga, both of the rewards just make you better at being the boss
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>>172348282

Why not? Anor Londo is in Dark Souls 3 even though it's from like a million cycles ago, i don't see how seeing it's crumbling ruins in the far distance in a sea of ash is any different.
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>tfw this cunt had the last word
>tfw you can't even get revenge on him after this
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>>172345650
It's near perfectly fitting for the final piece of Dark Souls but I can't help but feel that it's missing something. I hope the Spears covenant will remain active.
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>>172348241

I still kill people by guard breaking their shields. Don't know if its just ignorance or new players.
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>>172348290
How is adding more attacks and changing the entire dynamic of the fight not putting effort in?

Hell, since both of the Demon Princes have different movesets, you could argue that more work was put into them than pretty much any other boss since they designed 3 total movesets for a single boss encounter.
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I found the purging monument but lapp is not in the shared graves... did i mess up?
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>>172347518
Artorias cosplayers drank Artorias' literal blood to get his powers.
Blood is probably easier to smear on a painting than the actual soul.
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>game must be very active now with lots of players, time to play as blue sentinel and help people in need
>stand around for 30 minutes
>no summons
i just want to help
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>>172348346
Painter wants it because you use blood to create paintings.

Ariandel wanted his flail so he could bleed himself and use the blood.

Painted wants the blood of the Dark Soul because she wants the most powerful painted world ever, one that hopefully doesn't crap out.
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>>172346329
>did gwyn just wring some out of the pygmy?
Would you really put it past him to kidnap a Pygmy Lord for the purposes of doing that exact thing? Or maybe they stole stole it from TRC?
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>>172348346
I think the humanity= Dark soul shard implication from the first game got retconned hard. The point of the dlc is that a bunch of people have searched for the dark soul but failed before finding the pygmies. There's no reason to search if every human had part of it
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>>172348346

Humans/pygmys have a dark soul
I don't know about that
Yes
Yes
Just cause
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How do you get up here?
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>>172343285
Hes a fucking dragon. A well done dragon at last.

Hit his head and dodge, repeat. Alternatively use some ranged magic to kill it like a boss
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Spears of the Church feels so dead at level 120. Anyone else having any luck invading at 120+?
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So is anyone else having a hard time with gael, not because he's ""hard"", but because you can't fucking see shit in the second phase?
His stupid cape and the "fire" effects are way too much for my eyes. And then I have to worry about the random lightning too.
They just crammed way too much into this fight visually.
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How do I go into DLC1 if I already fucked Gael in DLC2?
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That fucking dragon.

Holy shit.

That fucking dragon.

I think this is the first time I regret going melee.
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For all things souls

https://discord.gg/qMV8CzQ
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>Unable to summon phantom
Goddammit i just want 1 to help take of Midir's heat
Meanwhile everytime i get summoned these guys have a full set of 3 whites
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>>172347718

You need to add:

PS: Sort out the fucking camera in the fights as well
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>>172348405
A fine Dark Souls™ to you, too.
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I went back to where Fillianore was napping.
She's Gone

Also a I always thought that by amassing Humanity you would drift closer to the Abyss/The Deep and grow stronger in power as The Dark Soul = Humanity

I always thought Manus longed for the age of dark so that humanity could prosper, then when there were enough people he would just eat em and get a stronger Dark Soul
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>>172348501
disable local region lock
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>>172348581
Show your humanity
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>>172344882
>interviewer said he played as a 130
Nowhere did fromsoft say anything
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>>172348417
>theres people blocking ypur great-sword/axe/hammer swings with medium shields
>mfw also using knight slayer ring
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>>172347598
>I already killed Gael.
>Halflight
He's just offline version of Spears PvP boss, or if no one gets summoned for your session for one reason or another. If you offed Gael you skipped Halflight.
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>>172348346
no
no
no
yes
She wants it so she can make a cold, dark and gentle place

>>172348401
Everything would be in the dreg heap at the end of time regardless of how many years it's been around. You can't go past the end, in other words, in the future past Ringed City without getting to the point where everything is either still in the heap or just gone.
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Where is ledo hammer?
Also did you notice that Zullie and Ledo appear as spirits summoned by the adjudicator?
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>>172336114
Is evading the giant fireball storm physically possible? I'm about to give up and summon
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>ah, is this the blood? The blood of the dark soul?

what?
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>all these people wanting to fight serpents

Where did this idea come from? I never once thought about fighting those mustached worms in the first game.
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>>172348669
neither did the OP, anon.

"here's polygon suggesting"
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>>172348708
Fight the other version of teh boss, by killing the other demon last.
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>>172344870
Stop locking on
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>>172348708
just use black knight shield to make it easy mode
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>>172345650
i would give it a 7,

crown of the iron king is a 7, other crown dlcs are 6

ashes is a 5, old hunters is an 8

artorias is a 9
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>>172348708

Kill the other bat first and you get the laser version.
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>>172348636

I can help you. Pick a password and I'll put my sign down.
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>>172348547
Didnt get retconned, gael still thinks you have a dark soul
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>>172348708
just roll out of the way?
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Where does patches go after he kicks you and where's his armor.
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>>172348845
>recycletown is a 9
>the old hunters expansion is an 8
what
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>>172348834
black iron*
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>>172348589
I just had 5 fights in span of like 20 minutes at SL120, lost one to ganksquad, won others against solo host in like first 20 seconds of the fight.

Solo hosts are really at huge disadvantage, this bossfight is terribly designed.
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>>172348694

>Everything would be in the dreg heap at the end of time regardless of how many years it's been around. You can't go past the end

I was under the impression that the Dark Souls world is cyclical, you're told in the main game that the lands are begining to converge on Lothric or something, so i assume that at the end of every cycle everything converges and fucks itself until nothing remains, and then when the new cycle starts, everything goes it's separate ways again. And Anor Londo has survived that cycle numerous times because ???? and i guess now Lothric Castle also survived it's cycle because ????.

Also when you fight Gael the sun is back and not fucked, so it's obviously not during the end of the world.
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>>172348708
You can try killing the other demon first. Try dealing with the laser beam instead.
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>the boss fight in the drop area

Holy fucking shit, how much health does this fucker have? How much does he soak up?

Tried using the NPC summon to take off some pressure from me, but it's no good.
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>>172348731
You'll find that lots of people in the world want things that you don't.

Also part of it is that the Serpents are aspects of the lore almost everyone wants to know more about and the best way to learn more about something in this world is to stab it in the head then read its drop description.
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>>172348115
I think the actual present is gael, the dreg heap, firelink, and the kiln, everything else save the painting is a visit to a moment in the past, at what point in the past being unclear.
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>>172347778
I want his +4 Ring of Nonexistent Stamina Usage.
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>>172348245
PvP boss fight with support NPCs, essentially improved version of DeS' Old Monk. The player acting as the boss gets unique passives and usable items with cooldown (one looted before church, others from advancing the said covenant level) that can only be used when summoned as the boss. The boss player can't use Estus, however the NPC painting guardians can heal him.
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>>172347158
Pygmy's soul was Soul of Manus
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>>172348669
The other links directly quoted fromsoft
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>>172345650

>Beat Gael with no estus and a sliver of health left

environments were stunning, the best in the series. It had the perfect blend of gothic, surrealism, and naturalism in the level design which ticks all my boxes. Bosses and weapons were great as well. As a finale it was kind of strange but I really enjoyed it. 9/10
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>they actually made a DLC boss even more ludicrous than laurence
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>>172348378
being? Or do you mean beating? So no weapons or armor?
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>watch two people duel for about 5 minutes straight with both being low on health
>'someone just fucking kill something'
>they both start healing using Sun Princess Ring and spells
>fuuuuck
>host kills the enemy phantom
>finally
>host is an r1 spammer
>parry
>hornet ring riposte
>kill
honestly fuck PVP
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>>172348708
i beat the boss solo and i think he never used any fireball storm, i just remember the laser
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>>172348731

I don't want to fight them, i just wanted to know what their deal was. But i guess we'll never know.
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>>172348921
>get +2 stability in exchange for weaker fire absorption and a shitload more weight
Nah, Black K***ht Shield is much better. Pretty sure boss attacks don't deflect off of greatshields unless they're shitter bosses like Abyss Watchers or Deacons.
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>>172349069
Being.
The new covenant is just getting summoned to be a boss, the rewards make you stronger and increase your boss moveset
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>>172348751
>>172349031
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>>172349069
Being. They just buff the spells you get when you're summoned as the boss.
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>>172348983

I understand wanting to learn more about them. Not fighting them though.
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>>172348861
You are on PC too right?
If so; pass is hppool, sign at the altar thing
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>>172348972
don't use the NPC, it bumps up his health a lot and doesn't provide much help to be worth it.
Just solo it, hit head
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>>172347853

He's actually not

His moves are completely different
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>>172344127
I hope the next game he wants to make has giant women like DaS1.
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>>172348708
Just walk up to him and hit him when he casts it, it'll come directly down and have no time to track
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>>172348581
>that hammer
>with that armor
The fuck are your stats??? What SL are you
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Someone answer me this question:

Before I kill Demon Prince, is there anything permanently missable? Do I need to summon NPCs for questlines, or Ember in order to fight AI invaders?

For that matter, do I need to do either of those in any of the later areas?
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I give up. Gael's fucking impossible.
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why does gael always have his back to you? do they want the anime audience?
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>>172349186
Some people [like me] also see Kaathe as basically being the final boss and ultimate evil of the setting, so there's also that
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>>172349040
>It had the perfect blend of gothic, surrealism, and naturalism
you really have no idea what you're talking about don't you
>>
I always found the lore of the series interesting even if i wasn't a "lorefag" and i find it pretty strange the the last boss is literally "just some dude" it almost feels like it's mocking anyone who tried to find some meaning in the lore of the series.
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Am i too low level for Midir ?
I can't even hit the faggot
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>>172349227

I do hit the head. 3 fucking times in a row with the FUGS. Fucker doesn't even twitch from it.
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>>172348665
Can you at least tell me where to search? I've been up and down this level and have yet to find anything I've missed. I've already killed three bosses. Do I need to give the key item to the painting girl to get up there?
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>>172349384
>Kaathe
>evil
>age of dark
>bad
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>>172349340
No

Also, AI invaders invade even when not embered.
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>>172347340

Gael is probably the best fight in DS3, and probably the hardest

Orphan-tier in design and coolness, and harder too
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>>172349384
>Evil

But he was right!
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>>172349336
That's my fashion too.
sl 120 with the new havel +3 and favor +3 bb
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So if I killed Midir in the wrong order do I seriously have to do this shit in NG+4 just to get the full story now?
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>>172348957
The end of time is the end of time. It has things from all cycles including things that haven't happened yet, like the Dragonslayer armor being dead for ages after we kill it before eventually reawakening at the end of time. When the flame is rekindled, or usurped, this unfucks the timeline and prevents the eternal blackout we get in that one ending. This is why the Unkindled even exist, to keep the age of fire from ending and the world from imploding by force if necessary.
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>not only did the cover show the final main game boss, but also the dlc2 boss arena
BRAVO
R
A
V
O
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>>172347234
The Ringed City knew how to drive humanity wild to make Abyss embers for armor forging, but Manus created the Abyss as we know it when Oolacile missionaries home from TRC tried this sorcery on Manus' soul and he literally blew up in their faces.
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So I unlocked the bonfire in the swamp (the one with the locked door)

But how do I get to this bridge? I don't wanna miss anything
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>>172349220

Alright, I'm on my way, gimmie a min.
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>>172349423
actual spoiler
Use white branch to change your look to humanity ghost while standing in swamp water.
Go to the room with statue next to bonefire in swamp. Ladder will drop down.
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>>172349384
>firefags
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>>172349336
You can twohand it with 40, he might not be that high

Either that or the new havel ring is really big
>>
If you are doing this DLC under NG+7 and above SL60 you are factually playing the game wrong.
Friendly reminder.
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>>172341901
Doesn't seem like anyone found it, maybe it'd be something akin to dragon head since the armor has no helm
>>
>people shit on the gael fight
>its actually amazing
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>>172349453
Honestly I'm having way more trouble with Darkeater than Gael. Gael had a lot of surprise moves but after a few tries of just observing each phase I was able to get him down without too much trouble.

Darkeater is just a giant damage sponge and his head openings are small.
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>>172349516
down stairs, take left, ladder
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>>172349389

Ashes gives you a lot of lore on Gael, though
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>>172349431
Go away Kaathe

>>172349456
He was definitely not right. He told the truth about the pygmy and Mankind being attuned to the dark, but at best he was mistaken and at worst he was lying through his teeth about everything else. Ringed City basically confirms that.
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>fear not the dark, my friend
>and let the feast begin
What did he mean by this?
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>>172349056
Yeah Orphan is kind of old news tho
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Ok, seriously. If you get summoned to fight midir and you die almost instantly, go fuck yourself.
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>>172349615
I shall partake
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>>172349410
i don't know bro, i did it with Yhorm's weapon.
You can do it. Just dodge a lot and don't get caught in his bullshit fire spews on ground that have fuckhuge hitbox.
Like i said don't summon, it gives him a lot of bonus health
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>>172349453
He would be the best fight if it wasn't for his stupidly large health pool. It just makes him seem like a padded piece of shit.
>>
Anyone got that image for rolling a new Ds3 character?
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>>172349410
rate
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>>172349645
if you summon to fight midir, go fuck yourself
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>>172348165

You don't lose your soul upon death. The ability to take a soul is a power that gods used, see: O&S, Nameless.

Hollows came into existence when the Fire created the Dark they came out of. Death functions the way we know it when the Fire is the dominant force, where Hollows aren't treated as such by the laws of nature that the Fire enforces. Things like dying after you've lived too long, disease and such. Hollows seem to be somewhat immortal, but not invulnerable. They can be destroyed, we see Hollow bodies all over.

That said, this game was never fully thought out and some shit will never make sense.
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>>172349615
I shall partake
>>
>level of want to buy DLC intensifies
I don't care about the story, haven't since I finished the game
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>>172349384
Then some people [like you] must be a morons.
>>
solo midir on ng+7 is a complete fucking bullshit
like cursed rotten defiled amygdala-tier bullshit while you don't have access to beast blood pellet or bb-tier DPS weapons
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>>172349584
>his head openings are small
Idk why I laughed at this.
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>>172347785
>Whether it's a pocket world or the end of time, it doesn't say.
I'm betting end of time, you fight Gael in an ash desert
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>>172349551
>I put 60 str into this
>forgot what two handing does
What's your ar? I get 712 with the buff 662 without it
>>
The ringed city is out of time, thanka to filianore's sleep. The city was sealed ages ago, yet it exists "at world's end" because when the fire fades the ringed city is somehow available, since gods are powered by the first flame. The ash desert is not the future, but the present, the opening cutsecen proves it, the lords of cinder were awaken and sent to the past, moments before the fire fades, but they refused to help, so the ashen ones are summoned, in firelink shrine, which somehow is out of time too, we don't see the darksign sun nor the dark in firelink shrine. The dreg heap is the final state of the world, like the big bang that expanded everything, now the big crunch returns the world to it's primordial state, nothing.
According to the people working in the official guide, the end of the fire is the real ending, but the truth is, the fire will fade no matter what, even if you link it time and time again, one day it will fade, and that day is today.
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>>172349359
You can do it anon, i believe in you.
I did it with Butcher Knife +10

>>172349398
>75
it purely depends on skill i guess but i went in the DLC with SL 140 and still had a lot of troubles. Finished it as SL164, but was playing on NG+3
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>>172349389
Gael is being wielded by the Dark Souls as a proxy. Aka you're fighting the namesake of the series not some guy,
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>>172349758
>must be a morons
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>>172349584

I found Midir easier to dodge (his flame attack was what often got me the most), so I didn't mind the long endurance fight.

Gael would catch me now and again if I was a little slow on the roll, or I attacked and he did a followup attack (some times he does; as the phases go on, he does more and more). So, I ended up using way more Estus for how much life I took off him.
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I actually liked that they left so many things hanging lore-wise. It's the Dark Souls way of doing this. Bravo Miyazaki. He clearly enjoys fucking with lorefags.
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>>172349484

So if this isn't the beginning of another cycle, what is it? When is this happening? Why is the sun whole again?
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>>172349849
If only the boss title reflected that. It remains "Slave Knight Gael" throughout, doesn't it?
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>>172349453
Is there something I missed on Orphan, because that's the only boss in all Soulsborne games that took more than 10 tries for me(and like 50 or so at that), his Phase 2 moveset just felt such bullshit to me.

I liked Gael because he was similar, but easier to read imo.
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>>172349541
>Unable to summon phantom after a full minute of waiting
Just
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>>172349702

I can see why it'd be a bother.

Perhaps they should tone his damage reduction or health down on NG. He's harder than all main and Ashes bosses NG+ (other than Midir).
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>>172349571
Gael is basically Orphan with less bullshit.
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>>172349849

When they said "the red hood is coming, he is devouring the dark soul" that is what i thought would happen, but no, it's just Gael, he is named Gael, he looks like Gael, he acts and talks like Gael.
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>>172349336
Switched to the Paired GS for Gael.
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>>172348062
But that's wrong, a broken sword hollow is not a better character as a whole than Gwyn.
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>>172349937
Seal of fire on humanity has been broken
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>>172348253
Following standard conventions of word meanings and sentence structure in English is not desperation, and the obtuse nature of the Souls series is vastly overstated
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ITS ANGEL SUMMONER
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>>172350031

I'm not sticking around while you try to get 20 phantoms at once, sorry.
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Probably a stupid question but is it possible to get summoned into higher NG cycles than your own? I've been sunbroing Gael for a while and he tends to do insane damage even though I'm using heavy armor
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>>172350119

I don't even know what that means.
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What I dont fucking understand is why the hell does Lothric worship the Angels? There fucking scary. Scariest design in the fucking game.
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>abyss watcher cosplay
>summoned to a fight club
>first and only other combatant than the host is an artorias cosplayer wielding the farron greatsword
>honor duel
>he has no health, attempt to parry him to finish him off honorably, with the highest form of damage
>he hits me twice, reducing my health to his
>both start throwing knives
>hit him as he hits me, we both die in sync
>top kek
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>>172349937
How the fuck should I know? The game says one thing and then shows us this which is something else entirely and does not explain it at all.

I'm going to chalk it up to being an excuse to throw in the boxart background
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>>172349937
No, this is the end. No age of man or dark, it's the end. The world will die and one day.... tiny ember will dance in the darkness, and new life will rise.
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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Bloodborne is the best game in the Souls series?
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>>172348916
artorias had way, way more story connections. when you got to fight him you were "oh shit THIS is that dude i've been hearing about" while coupled with a really fucking great and challenging fight. same with manus. it had more areas and a lot of variation. it complimented the original game and if you play the game without it, it feels like you're missing something. old hunters comes close to achieving this, but doesn't quite make it.

if ashes and ringed city was combined into a single dlc, i would be tempted to give it a 9.
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>>172349605
That's where the NPC bug thing is

I mean the platform with the ladder
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>>172350008

Orphan never really bothered me as much as you can always just quick dash to get behind him to heal/hit/dash some more, even in his second phase.

Gael has his stupid cape that can catch you when you get behind him. And his combos increase as the phases go on, and they aren't set in stone; sometimes he'll flip once, sometimes twice. Plus the lightning.
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What the fuck am I supposed to do now? Just go with my head-canon?
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I killed Gael but I never found Lapp again after I found the monument.
Has he poofed or can I still finish his questline?
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>>172350203
Yep, NG cycles are irrelevant, all that matters is soul level and weapon memory
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>>172349545
This sounds like complete bullshit. I haven't ever been asked to show humanity anywhere.
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>>172350298

It's fine.

He's at the "bottom" of the shared graves.
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>>172350298
Did you find him sitting in that chair?
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>>172350187
>Implying i was trying to summon anyone else but you with my password
>Implying it wasnt saying summoning phantom for a minute until the unable message popped up
If you feel like you are wasting your time then go, no hard feelings; thanks for trying anyways
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>>172350008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbO_nYoj80o

No not really
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>>172350265
Bloodborne is the best game in the borne series.
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>>172350217
Perhaps if the angels had some purpose in this DLC other than being an obstacle for big cheaply made From Software swamp #5000 DS2 Edition we would have some idea.
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>>172350338
It's actually not bullshit though
I found it by fucking accident
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>>172350338
go do it instead of biting the hand that's trying to feed you faggot
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>>172350267
There is literally no implication Manus even existed before the DLC
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>>172350265
>bloodborne
>best game
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEitsclearlykingsfield
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>>172350338
>This sounds like complete bullshit. I haven't ever been asked to show humanity anywhere.
it's written on the wall where ladder drops, literally "Show your humanity"
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>>172350369
I thought that place seemed a bit empty.
>>172350370
Yeah, never saw him again after that.
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>>172350265
I never got play the PvP but I unironically believe Bloodborne has the strongest PvE portion of them all.
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>>172350265
>/dsg/
>Agreeing on something
Good fucking luck.
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>>172349389
>>172349849
>>172350056
>Have the Pus of Man firmly established as a concept in the lore
>Have the opportunity to actually show Gael being overtaken by the Dark Soul
>Could have made Gael erupt into a Pus of Man that is almost literally the Pus of Manus
>Decide not to

Questionable.
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>>172350265
I will always appreciate Bloodborne for being the last game Miyazaki made that involved some kind of feeling other than lust for money
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>>172350475
After you find the monument, go back to him in the chair and tell him about it, then he'll be in the shared graves.
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Newfags question
How good is shield with weapon skill ? I want to use weapon skill shield with 1 handed ugs or cgs for hyper armor while using shield
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>>172350371

Was I in a game with someone else using the same password then?

Because I was stood at the fog wall for a straight 10 minutes with some dude who summoned me with that password. Maybe someone else from the thread got me to epic troll.

I'll try again, then. Same password.
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What in the world is up with the HP of these bosses?
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>>172350265
Eh i prefer ds3's base game over BB, and I think AoA plus trc is equal to toh. Either way, get your 'best game' shit out of here faggot.
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>>172349389
Like the others said he's wielding the Dark Soul. Plus, he's a bit like another "player-like" boss akin to Soul of Cinder. He has roughly the same weapons and abilities in his normal form in Ashes of Ariandel if you summon him for Friede, fuck he even uses White Sign Soapstone to teleport in the later phases of his own boss fight if you get extremely far away.

He also starts the painting quest chain, the painter mentions Gael searching for the Dark Soul and he even helps you in the second DLC with the soapstone messages telling you where it's safe to drop down. If you stop for a while reading the message you can see his NPC silhouette forming like other player messages with emotes. I think Gael was a good character with proper foreshadowing.

However the actual ending of the painting quest chain itself is pretty damn lackluster. Just few lines of dialogue and no further explanations for the painting itself. No cutscenes, credits or anything.
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>>172349727
>You don't lose your soul upon death
But you LITERALLY do, that's why you hollow out and have to pop a fresh humanity
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>>172350279
Yep. Man all my hobbies are devolving into "whelp just gonna headcanon this I guess."

Fun time.
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I noticed I have 3 Hollowing from an earlier NG+ cycle, but I cannot use a Purging Stone, the Use button is grayed out. Any ideas?
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>>172350479
>unironically believe Bloodborne has the strongest PvE portion of them all

>unironically

I thought everyone loved BB's PvE, optional chalice shit aside.
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>>172349389
>"As the world began without knowledge, so it shall end without knowledge."
>"Does this not ring clear and true?"

Miyazaki will never explain the lore, probably because he doesn't have an explanation to begin with. But even if he did have one he is adamant he won't give it.
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>>172350553
People complained that DkS3's bosses didn't have enough health and they finally listened
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Ive beaten every single souls game and now I cant even beat the demons on NG at 120. how are you people even getting through this dlc so fast?
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>>172350553
It's pretty high but it is endgame content after all.
Seems to be a lot of complaints because people aren't melting bosses like they can in the main game.
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>>172350656
get your aids healed.
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>>172349613
We never actually talk to a pygmy to get their say in things. Why did they go along with gwyn's shit anyways? Filianore is basically their jailor, but one of them begs her to save them
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>>172350639
>Just few lines of dialogue and no further explanations for the painting itself. No cutscenes, credits or anything.
ye i find it a bit sad, literally
>HEY YOU FOUND THE PIGMENT
>THANKS
>the end
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how the fuck do I kill this giant in the middle of the swamp? his archers just completely fuck me up
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>>172350686
>failing at ng demons at 120
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>>172350639
Honestly they should of had her finish the painting and allow you to enter it, giving you a glimpse of what was inside
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>>172350592

>I think AoA plus trc is equal to toh.

Objectively wrong opinion.
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>>172350370
No, last time i talk to him was whhlen he gave me the titanite slab.
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Zoey getting DP'd by her Thralls when?
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>>172349937
The entirety of the Dark Souls world is ending and the painter will be making a whole new world.

Coincidentally, From Software will no longer be making Dark Souls games, but they'll be making another Dark Fantasy IP that will probably make it obvious without ever stating it directly that it takes place in a painting.

This is the same trick as DeS ending the world in a fog and Dark Souls starting the world out in a fog.
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>>172350269
I'll just keep playing I guess, hope I didn't miss something
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>>172350686
just stop being elitist fag and level up 20 levels or something
i did demons at SL140 NG+3
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Wait, coming from someone who has purchased no DLC whatsoever
does The Ringed City require AOA?
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>>172350810
that would be fucking gay but I like it
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>>172350738
I don't have any aids in this NG+ cycle
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>>172350774
there's two of them at once and they toxic me and then even if I kill them the demon prince comes and I'm out of estus. I swear this is harder than the orphan of kos
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This is a metaphor for how miyazaki hates making sequels
>STOP REVIVING THE WORLD
>PAINT A NEW ONE
>REEEE
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>>172350553
What in the world is with these people whi use low damage weapons?
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>>172350686
The thing about the demons is that they are predicatable. It took me about 10 tries, but I realized at the 7th try or so that they always follow the same pattern at the start. Kill the demon of pain first and learn the moves of the second phase. Use a cloranthy ring and blossom too.
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>>172346434
On ng+++ and higher lapp is a better choice. Dude has more fire resist and hp.
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>everytime i go to hit friede she dodgee
>lose 7 estus on phase 1 because I have to face tank to get any hits in

How do you beat friede again?
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>>172350509
Play DaSII.

The last boss normally is called Nashandra, who is almost literally the Pussy of Manus
>>
ATTENTION
RKPGS STUNLOCKS INFINITELY ON R1 L1 R1 L1
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>>172350767
you must hit him anon
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>>172350686

I don't know how anyone can defeat Nameless and Elfriede and have trouble with the demons and Gael. I know difficulty is subjective and all but i feel like Gael and the demons are way easier than them, the demons are just gargoyles 3.0.
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>>172350971
I'd just summon phantoms and get it over with

I beat Pontiff with 3 NPC phantoms as we legit ganked him into a corner
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How do you get summoned as a boss?
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>Try to help someone with Midir
>He's completely unpredictable when there are 2 people and I die like a turd

Sorry dude.
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>>172350934
If you're getting toxic you're not kiting enough. Kite flamey getting hits while you can as the resting one is only in range to do the telegraphed purple line thing
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>>172350338
Eat shit then
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>>172350991
Another one?
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>>172350971
I use a dagger and bleed her to death pretty easily. She can barely hit me through the quickstep.
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>>172350746
Probably because the arrangement wasn't actually that bad for them? It's not even clear what the seal of fire does exactly, but it can't be that terrible since Gwyn's statue is still there and they clearly worship Filianore, and the Ringed City seemed to be quite a nice place before it started sinking into the abyss, so it is all a far cry from Kaathe's EMBRACE THE ABYSS, FIRE IS YOUR ENEMY AND ONLY WHEN IT DIE WILL HUMANS HAVE A CHANCE TO RISE TO THEIR TRUE POTENTIAL
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Why the fuck am I not getting summoned as a spear?
Is SL100 too low?
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>>172351017
yeah but there's no cover in the middle of the swamp anon and I can't 2 shot him. since his archers' arrows go through him (nice 1 memezaki) i can't even use his shit against him
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>>172350516
I don't think DaS3 was "lust for money".
It was more "contractual obligation".
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>tfw soloed Pontiff for the first time, on NG+
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Where can I find an explanation to what's going on
I really want to learn to make my experience better i just don't know shit
Thank you
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>>172350516
>last
>only other game since BB is DS3, a game in an already existing franchise published by bamco
>you're able to gauge his (((lust for money))) for all possible future games from that
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>>172351131
Are you using the Covenant or just placing summon signs to get pulled into it?

If you've beaten the boss then you no longer get pulled into the boss through your summon sign.
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>>172336114
How am I supposed to find the summoners of those angel fags?
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>>172350767
Run around his archers for a bit as you close in on him [remember, they loose three shots eat] then stab him in the foot until he dies.
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>>172351138

I just ran up to him and hit him until he died, i don't know what to tell you. I did get memed once when he summoned something under his fucking skirt and i couldn't see it until it killed me, don't even know what it was.
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What does the young grass dew buff or do for you?
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>>172351060
Its fine, i got fucked over myself not much later.
Gonna call it quits for Midir tonight, starting fresh tomorrow might help me more. Thank you for your help

So for clarification, killing Halflight&Gael does not lock me out of getting and/or joining spears correct?
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>>172348730

He should know he fucking ate them.
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>>172351231
I've just equipped the covenant thing.
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>>172351138
roll spam until he summons something shit so you have opportunity to hit him, and i think his only shit summon is hammer knight.
Also run close to him so he occasionally tries to punch you himself so stops summoning.
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>>172351232
You use your eyes
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>>172351038
Ive found nameless pretty easy after learning to take his dragon down without getting hit much. Friede isnt too bad once you realize to go agressive when she is invis and hit ariandel in the second phase. Demons took me a while, but once you get their first part down it isnt too bad. Gael is a bit more unpredicatable, and is just a good boss imo. Hes like artorias and namless's had a kid.
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>>172351038
I beat nameless pretty easily back when the game came out but I haven t played in a year and I'm probably much worse at the game now
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>>172351209

No one knows, no one has ever known and no one will ever know. Your own personal theories that you have made from reading item descriptions are almost surely just as valid as anyone else's.
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>the ringed city
>no unique rings
what did they mean by this
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>>172351298
>So for clarification, killing Halflight&Gael does not lock me out of getting and/or joining spears correct?
Seems like killing the one girl on the right in Gael's arena locks you out, not killing Gael or whatever
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So was the Knight a raging Yuri girl that wanted to fuck the Princess, and thats why she's pissed at you?
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>>172350907
No, but story wise Ringed City is a direct continuation to AOA. You won't get who the last boss of Ringed City is unless you've played AOA.
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anyone on ps4 want to help me kill bridge midir then fight real midir?
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>>172350949
>>172350691
>>172350683
It just feels weird that on NG+5 I feel like I need to bring out my old WoW raid party and hack at them for 10+ minutes straight while discussing strats over ventrillo or some shit. This fucker kept me busy for an hour.
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I just made it to the Demon Prince bonfire and I still haven't found the bodies of the two annoying angels behind me.
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Ludex Gundyr. Are you in here?
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>>172351312
Then I dunno. The DLC is endgame content so it's possible 100 is slightly below the average level since usually people go for the 120 meme.

Good luck anon.
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I just realized how grim dark the purging momunment is holy hell
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>>172350414
>>172350464
I haven't seen this wall yet, is it out in the swamp?
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Man Gael has some fick fucking flips. mid air Uturns and shit
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>>172351384
Discovered Rings OP before DLC release
solution
delete all rings in DLC
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>>172351532
it's in a room next to swamp bonefire, 2 statues and 1 broken on the ground
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I'm curious, what do you guys think the world in the painting the Painter creates with the Dark Blood will look like?
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just killed the dragon on the bridge
how close am i to beating the dlc?
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>>172350767
miracles
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>>172351275
Buffs the strength of the holy soul mass passive that gets automatically refreshed during the boss fight, I think. At least their color changed after I got the item.
>>
gael is a boring bossfight honestly
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>>172351485
One was right before that bonfire to the right and down a lower path, and the other was right before the desert sorceress on top of huts and vines.
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>>172351329
Not very helpful. I cant see shit when there's a thousand lasers zoominh at me
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What SL do I need to be for sorceries to not suck shit?
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>1h grinding
>still no ringed knight chestplate

Kill
Me
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>>172349937
>>172349484
Wait, anon, don't you remember that there's endless plains of ashen desert hanging around underneath the tower that is the Flameless Shrine and Dreg Heap? You're somewhere down there, looking at the sun through the clouds.
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>>172351651
Cold, and dark.
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>>172351462
Did the texture not load correctly or is that thing supposed to look like that?
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Someone want to help with Demon Prince ?
>/id/Blondiedie
>>
went back to using vordt's greathammer instead of ledo's

perseverance is op
>>
>decide to go full weeb
>full shadow armor
>uchigatana
>bloodlust to kill thyself
>caestus, just in case I encounter another light spammer
>first fight is another uchigatana user
>take little damage while killing him
>I beat him with his own weapon
>feelsbadman
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>>172351652
>just killed the dragon on the bridge
>killed
wew
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>>172351692
Been backtracking and just killed the one near pyromancer.
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>head back into the main game area
>those completely normal health values
Oh man, I've been completely spoiled
>>
Dreg Heap invasion best day of my life
>>
midir is a fucking bullshit damage sponge on ng+7
should i just summon an army of casters or something
he feels like he was designed for coopers
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>>172351716
enough to get 50 int and some attunement
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>>172351652
>just killed the dragon on the bridge
You've come very far, but there's optional proper hidden boss fight with him. In terms of main content a *very* short area with only one enemy, then two consecutive boss fights.
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>>172351651
If it's based on what my character needs for a goodly home then it'll be composed entirely of giant toothy serpents with scantily dressed ladies with giant tits riding them while crows fly everywhere.
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>>172351651
Dark Souls 4.
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>>172351752
I think it's supposed to look bad up close.
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>>172351639
Thank you very much.
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>>172351651
Cold Souls
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why does Gael have a huge hole in his chest?
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>>172351569
See
>>172347853
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>>172351716
125SL
You will still suck. New spells are shit, new mage staff is shit, new dagger is shit too. It's just boring.
>STR got fun as fuck weapons
>pyro has fun spells and awesome weapon
>faith has great weapon and bow
>dex has only one katana
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>>172351746

But then, where is the dreg heap in that picture? You can see Lothric castle and Anor Londo but they aren't all fucked up.
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>>172350787
im wondering if theres gonna be another update before the GOTY edition comes out that'll add anything like a scene or anything, Or maybe a new weapon like the Gold Dual Swords that were teased in the first place
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Where is the covetous silver serpent ring +3? I have found the gold one, havel's, favor, chloranthy, and steel protection.
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>>172351756
NG+9?
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>>172351047
>solo friede
>almost no openings
>co-op
>literal rape
This is ivory king all over again.
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>>172351843
>mfw perfect someone in the arena with same weapon and fashion as me
>>172351845
Preach
>>
I can beat a greatsword

But how the fuck do I beat two at once.

It's like fighting the Dancer of The Boreal Valley all over again.
>>
New
>>172352052
>>172352052
>>172352052
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>>172350810
I am going to accept this as my closure for this game.
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>>172351741
If you're on PS4 I can drop you one.
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Tfw some shitter ruined the church bossfight by not knowing how to play. I will play offline next time
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>>172352096
PC. Thanks though ashen bro ;_;
>>
What order do I play the games in? Is there a "correct" order?
>>
>>172351940
THE DARK SOUL
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>>172352049
i literally got hard when 3 of us + npc were ganged up on her with our ultragreat shlongs.
she couldn't even move from the satisfaction.
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>>172351968
collapsed into dust?
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>>172351716
Technically SL1 with a scholar ring is enough to use magic shield, which is actually nerfworthy.

For actual casting you can use all three at once perfectly fine at SL 100, but youre just gonna be a regenfag with the crystal chime who spams farron darts and black serpent/flame.
>>
>touch some egg
>get sent somewhere, no one knows what is going on
>she is dead
>go back to when you touched the egg
>she is gone

What did they mean by this? No seriously, what the fuck is goign on
>>
>>172350810
Did KF do a similar thing? or did they do standard fantasy endings back then
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>>172350420
no, but there was a question regarding the furtive pygmy, which was a major missing piece of the myth, and it helps lend a lot of information about key aspects of the core game, such as abyss, kaathe, the dark soul and humanity.
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>>172351651
I spank her until she draws the world I want.
No fucking way am I going through two fucking pointless quests and fighting a Goddamn dragon so she can draw another cold ass ice world. When I have to kill roid Guts it becomes a fucking comission.

At the very least a forested north coast beach. Can still get pretty cold time to time.
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>>172351945
The dagger isn't even bad as dex/int, pretty fun desu
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>>172351845
I like to put down prism stones leading the host towards the angel bodies, most of the time they seem too suspicious to follow the trail, and can't get past the area as a result.
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>>172352240
I think the illusion of reality finally breaks down and you see the true world, well what remains of it
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>>172352182
Release order obviously, starting with DeS if you have a PS3. If you want the bare minimum experience then DaS1 and DaS3. While DaS2 isn't non-canon, its events aren't really related to DaS3 and the most hints to its story you get in DaS3 are all small references.
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>>172352240
turns out holding back time has some negative side effects when the spell is broken and you age 100000000000 years all at once

unless you're that one guy who has made this post at least 4 times in this thread so far and then rejected all answers, in which case fuck off
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>>172351415

I don't think it locks you out. Midir drops the covenant item. It might just stop you from advancing the covenant.
>>
That leap Gael does is bullshit. It's a move that with any other boss will unish you for rolling back. But it's the only way to escape with Gayel.
>>
Should I get the sorcery or katana from Midir? 40/40 int/dex
>>
Ringed Knight paired greatswords are probably the most broken thing ive ever seen. People cant even come near me when im using them.
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>Fighting players instead of NPC for Halflight
>Never played DeS but people praised Old Monk
>Every single one plays like a passive arena shitter
Shame on me for getting my hopes up i guess
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>Tfw killing a Host and 3 Sunbros as the Spear

STOP WAKING UP THE PRINCESS DICKS

>>172352572

Definitely doesn't lock you out, I literally just did it from inside the room you can only access after killing Shira.
>>
Anyone that can help me out on pc, I don't know where a lot of this shit is. I haven't fought a boss but I got some of the area done
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>>172342883

Literal fucking Nuke of a weapon.
>>
Someone help me fight Gael, please. I'm on Xbone, and my password is killgael
>>
>Guy thinks it's a good idea to fight gael with 2 phantoms
>>
>>172353715
It's worth a try. ;_;
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There is no fog walls in invasions like in AoA?
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>>172342357
Sl70 Ng+ took 5 tries
He's nowhere near as annoying as Ludwig is on just ng
>>
>>172348708
Its slow as fuck so just hit him while he charges it
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Uncle Gael needs to lay off the roids
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The madman.

He actually did it.
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>>172354832
Is this real?
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What's the recommended level for the DLC? I'm 90+ and attempting to do Demon Prince but this cunt lives for fucking ever. Takes like three minutes in phase 2 to get him anywhere near half health.

Am I missing something?
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>>172355354
why the fuck not?
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