/svg/ - Shadowverse General

http://www.strawpoll.me/12597951

http://www.strawpoll.me/12597946

>>172069252
>>172069271

Let's say you have a shitty draft in Moba and your opponent has the best heroes of that patch, however, your team are average 4.5k players with no the lowest MMR player still within 4k and the opponent are average 2k with the highest MMR player not higher than 2.5k, you still have a higher chance to win.

However, if you have a random pile of garbage cards in your deck and your opponent has a perfect netdeck, you are more likely to lose to him even though you are master and the opponent is in C/D rank.

>>172069629
Why Erika win all the polls?

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Tournament in around 2 hours~
Signup: http://challonge.com/de/tournaments/signup/OUk7td6jZT
Bracket (not final): http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT3

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Nep will never die, bunch of dragoncucks getting overzealous because they got one good card, you are trash and Nep will live forever.

Nep...

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Why does /svg/ hate banish so much?

>>172069678
lets say you play a physical damage hero and only buy magic damage enhancing items, you will most likely lose, even if you are a much better player than your opponent

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/ourguy/

>>172069678
The difference there is that you have a choice over your cards. In MOBA, they have to keep characters more balanced because players will often not be able to choose from all of them. In card games, you build your own deck from whatever cards you have. If you don't build the best possible deck because you either didn't figure it out yourself or didn't look elsewhere, that's on you. Of course if you don't have all the cards that's a problem, but that's what unranked and arena are for.

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>>172069802
because most of them are shadow babs

>>172069802
because pedofags hate the hag and hagcraft has consistent banish cards

Why are people playing dshift in this aggro sword meta

>>172069976

to counter the counters of course!

>>172070040
>aggro sword
>counters

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>>172068194
Here is my deck anon.
Its really just something I use for my haven dailies and for fun.

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Mobile tabletop simulators are great and all, but I kind of want the actual cards in hand so its playable in person.


And cards are always nice collectables.

>>172069845

Let's say you mulligan away all the low cost cards and keep all the high cost cards in your hand, you will more likely brick and lose. If you buy shitty items and lose it is because you are retarded and can't make good decisions.

>>172069802
They want their evil deeds to go unpunished.

>>172070208
The game has randomness in it, there's nothing that can be done. But to say it's not competitive would be like saying poker isn't competitive.

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>>172069802
No one cares about your banish. Havenfags are biggest shitposters.

>>172070451
*pedofags

>>172070538
So is Eris a child molester?

SHIT. I fell asleep and saw the tournament here started. Am I too late?

>>172069056
The fact is that he actually had lethal in hand and missed it, in a really retarded fashion too. You would have lost that game against anyone that used forest for more than 5 matches.

Against forest you should always keep on paper how many cards in the opponet hand are 0 and 1 costs and quickly estimate how stronk can his roach be and if added to the damage on the board it can kill you.

As a rule of thumb:
pp-1+(1*n. of 0 drops) for 1 roach.
2*pp-4+(2*n. of 0 drops) for 2 roaches.
3*pp-9+(2*n. of 0 drops) for 3 roaches.

If you keep wary of these numbers, you'll be safe from roach, ASSUMING they don't bounce their roaches back. In that webm if he managed to get the roach from gobu it could have done an average of 10 damage just from the roaches. So you should have killed that fairy knight.

>>172069802
Because it counters their morde?

>>172070616
still have 2 hours before it starts
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/OUk7td6jZT

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>>172069729

>>172070616
Nvm I guess some people just got byes. I'm dum.

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>>172069802
Because Nep players get countered by banish and /svg/ really loves playing Nep for some reason.

>>172070451
Fuck off swordnigger

>>172070895
maybe in your madeup world, /svg/ likes albertcraft

>>172070740
yeah some people will get byes depending on the number of entrants

>>172069802
I don't hate banish as a mechanic but I sure hate that particular card
It's just a better version of dragon warrior

I have 3 seraph in my deck.
I draw one only at turn 20+. (fucking unlucky).

Ok he draw prince of darkness, I have enough ward, and life to maybe survive until he have not enough card to draw.
Managed to survive prince of darkness for 4 turn.
Only lose to : drop life to 1, then deal 7 damages on enemy.

My life sucks.

>>172071103
>It's just a better version of dragon warrior
No.

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>>172071103
How do you feel about his big brother?

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>>172071106
>get bad draw rng and lose an online card game
>life sucks

>>172071442
It doesnt have very good stats for the cost so its fine desu

>>172071442
What's that behind him

>>172071442

>6 drop

has to fight for a spot against themis, its shite.

>>172071646
Why would it fight for a spot against Themis when you can run both and punish your opponent for playing too much and for playing too little?

>>172071646
Keep themis for turn 7, just before seraph.

>>172070208
randomness is a part of games that increases replayability. most mobas have some kind of crit or on hit chances or similar, so the game can't be "solved"

>go online
>ask for a deck that will get you wins no matter how bad your brain damage is
>copy deck code and paste it into deck builder
>go to FUCKING unranked and spam emotes every FUCKING turm like your some hot shit who totally wasn't one of those fags that cried 3 months ago because muh sword was killed by da yurius
>literally just shit all over the board like an animal and win on turn 5 every game
euthanize these stupid sword fucks already
>muh honest class
literally brain damaged

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Is Luna ready to become a mother?

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Homebrew Daria

>>172071898
maybe she is, but her body sure as hell isn't

>>172071442
Quite good hp.
got a banish
so in the end pretty good with guardian sun.
And cucks shadow even more.

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>>172071878
t. aggro

>>172071878
What class is more honest than sword? You already know they are just going to play storm/rush every turn.

>>172069478
What's with japs and skirts?

I like sluts
I wanna be a slut too

>>172072046
>letting your women wear pants
its like you don't even want to stay the dominant gender

>>172072046
I think you mean what's with japs and lewd

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>>172072065
I know what you mean anon, I want to look exactly like this.

>>172072046
They don't have jews.

>>172072030
>free shit printed on every card
>no class mechanic to activate it just free shit

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>>172071878
Get good

>>172071898
It would give her something to obsess over other than her dead parents.

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>>172072046
You can't look up pants, mang.
The japs would know all about that.

>>172072065
>>172072179
You can be MY sluts.

>>172072046
>not wanting women to wear things they can submissively pull up to present themselves

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>>172072179
I wanna look exactly like Cerb too and have selfcest with you.

>Playing snowmen
>Haven keeps playing lion spirits, themis, and bahamut breaking 3 summon snow and 2 rimewind
>Kill two fucking bahamuts and basically lost since I only have one conjuring force
>Keep limping on like a retard to like turn 16 thanks to fiery embrace, dragonbond mage, grea, etc
>Finally have nothing left to give with only 7 cards left and no draw or snowboost
>He just kills my board and emotes at me while I emote at him as the cards remaining tick down
>Secrets of Erasmus is my last card
>Reaped
It was kind of nice despite getting bent over.

>>172072281
what happens if she miscarries?

>>172071007
That's funny because all /svg/ does is itch about sword and refuse to admit that Khawy is overloaded

What other good aggro decks are there besides aggro bats? Getting burnt out on blood

>>172072391
She's a necromancer, who cares?

>>172070718
Nep really needs to cost an evo fucking christ.

>>172072354
>Just conjuring force dshift it, bro

>>172071878
Ya.
Will be fun to cuck sword ungas with Test of strength + Attendats and hells unleachers in expansion.

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>tfw no petrification

>>172072510
That's a big tiger.

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Looking for help with my last private game game. 70955

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>>172070970
Fuck off justnigger.

>>172071103
It does nothing if they aren't at 3 or less in addition to they can't then attack it with the priest to finish it off.

>>172072428
Nobody thinks khawy isn't overloaded

>>172069802
Because banish is available to ~2/7 classes (excluding Odin) and banish is ≡ destroy in almost all cases except shadow which gets unnecessarily cucked by banish effects.

>>172072428
yeah sure, even swordbabs complain about khawy while being the class with the easiest time against it

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I have a question about tcg.

In YGO , this card is banned. Because apparently, drawing 2 cards is too op.
I didn't really understand, so I google searched.
It increase your chance to get the OP card which win the game, or complete exodia quickly.


Is it good strategy in shadowverse, to add a lot of draw card(s) cards in your deck. To increase your chance to have the card you really want?

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>aggro bats is dead next turn
>needs 2 ward-bypassing damage and only has 2 cards
>vania + night horde

>>172072065
>>172072179
Why are you being so lewd?

>>172072428
>refuse to admit that Khawy is overloaded
I see people crying about Khawy all day every day what /svg/ are you browsing?

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>starts playing Disco
>it's not even that bad and a lot of fun
Why do people make so much fun of it?

>>172072628
4u

>>172072428
at least you have to get to 7 for khawy. and most of the rest of shadow is much worse than sword

>>172072769
>Is it good strategy in shadowverse, to add a lot of draw card(s) cards in your deck. To increase your chance to have the card you really want?
Mostly in control. It's not a good idea to just run a bunch of neutral draws. The thing is that YGO had no resource system like most card games so consistency and draw are important.

>>172072305
>>172072179
I'm going to FUCK both of you.

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>>172072726
>3/7

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>>172072305
I like the way you think.

>>172072769
>Is it good strategy in shadowverse, to add a lot of draw card(s) cards in your deck. To increase your chance to have the card you really want?

You just descrived dshift.

>>172072769

If we had a 0pp equivalent, then yea, it'd be autoinclude.

>>172072428
FUCK OFF SWORDNIGGER

>>172072779
get fucked sword cancee

>>172072769
It's banned because it's free card advantage since there are no costs for spells. No reason not to run it in every deck ever. You have fate's hand which can be reduced to 0 but card draw is actually fairly bad in this game.

>>172072769
the problem with pot of greed is that it is literally freee to play. card draw in shadowverse isnt, so you can die before your carddraw pays off

>>172072653
Why is always posing like that? Like she's just about to go in on an amazing pair of titties.

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>>172072850

>>172072850
post dick

>>172072428
Hes bullshit.
But not as bullshit as entire sword.
Why did Cygames thing Sword needed fangblade slayer for even more face dmg and a freaking ward removal?
Playing against sword is literally.
>Put up weak ward, it dies to anything,
>put up strong ward, Fangblade or tsubaki rapes it.
so fun.

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>>172071007
>maybe in your madeup world, /svg/ likes albertcraft
Supreme taste, /svg/ gentlemen.

>>172073002
nigger what

i'm playing midrange blood

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>>172072782
>>172072907
Blame Cygames for making the biggest semen demon ever. Fenrir when?

>>172073078
limp wrist

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>>172073002
Sword haters can't even read, pathetic.

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>>172073078
cause she's a vampire

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>Arriet
>Better effect than Gabriel
>Better stats than Gabriel
>Is a gold instead of a legendary
What did Cygames mean by this

>>172073489
Is that pose supposed to be menacing?

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>>172072428
>albert and khawy on board
>kill him with khawy
>0 healing
WOW DUDE

>Game lasts more than 4 turns
>DoD, Saha, luci, baha, satan, odin
Really getting sick of neutralcraft

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I miss when Daria and Roach were the evil boogeymen of SV and not sword. My honest class doesn't deserve this sort of treatment.

>>172073145
>>172073472
>Unironically watching 14yo tail
Just end yourself my man

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>Asteroth's Reckoning gets bonus damage from JO

Why hasn't anyone told me this?

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>>172073604
yes, are you scared?

>>172072850
Its really good if you get the ball rolling.
But you are pretty cucked as hell if you dont get dragomancer rites or get all dragoons in same hand.
So the problem is that its to inconcistent and hard to get up rites if you are against unga.

>>172073050
>You have fate's hand which can be reduced to 0 but card draw is actually fairly bad in this game.

Nigger have you ever played rune?

>>172073654
>Honest

>>172073078
Because she's a lewd little girl who actually is always looking to fondle a nice rack. Sinking her fangs into their neck is just an excuse.

>>172073654
Fuck off Swordnigger

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>>172073654

At least your craft gets to be consistently viable.

>>172073604
its the classic dracula pose

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3 more days for shadow funeral

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>>172073740
Someone should post the forbidden combo.

>>172073742
No, but I would have a compelling urge to spank her and tweak her nipples.

>>172073806
Daria's card draw is only good because it spellboosts too. Playing a bunch of golems and Craig/Clarke with no boosting is nothing to write home about.

>>172073931
Why do you keep posting this comic?

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>>172073909
>Dumpster tier in DE, going to be dumpster tier again in ToG
>People are just going to keep crying about Khawy

>>172073654
>Honest
>one of the biggest cancer decks in both standard and DE

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>>172074017
why not?

>>172073740
If you read the cards it literally tells you

>>172074141
What does that comic mean?

>>172073969
Nah it boosts off runes, insights, leviballs and even fucking itself.

When you're starting to run out of cards and Daria isn't there, that saves your ass.


>>172074053
At least you're not haven.

>>172073109
This is how it looks like currently. I am still testing it and making changes, but it's working very well for a deck that has 35% winrate accordng to Shadowlog.
Notes:
The most recent change was dropping 3 Oracles for 2 Trail of Light and a third Khaiza, since I found myself not having enough cards for Dragoon way too often, while also not making enough use of the ramp to justify it.
That being said, I seem to have too many 3 drops right now, but I still haven't had problems with that, though dropping a Goblin Mage would probably be a good idea.
Wildfang has won me a few games when combo'd with an Emissary'd Dragoon, or with multiple discard effects in general. Unica should probably be a better option against aggro.
Siegfried is ridiculous. I forgot how good that card was after so much time without playing Face.

>>172074053
I'm going to laugh so hard once khawy eats heavenly aegis' like popcorn on day 1

edgecraft
which one is it? beware, there is one correct answer

>>172074017
it's cute fuck off

>>172073931
>>172074141

Can you explain it?
I don't understand the joke?

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Necroelementist is a pretty underrated aggro tech, considering literally everyone is playing the faggot angel.

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Arriet soothes my dick

>>172074275
sword, cause almost all of their cards have edged weapons

>>172074175
It means that you should kill yourself.

>>172074275
Blood, duh.

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>>172074239
Forgot the image.

>>172074312
Forte is flat like luna so she instinctively saw her as her mother

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>Cygames is giving this horseshit an anime before SV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyY8Tzya8k

>>172074432
I don't get it.

>>172074456

Shadowverse doesn't deserve an anime since it has Rune in the game.

>>172074456
Looks more interesting than SV to be honest with you fampai.

>>172072628
u u u u

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>>172074456
Best girl.

>>172074449
is forte's cake ready to be eaten by luna

>>172074456
If there's going to be an SV anime I hope to god it doesn't follow the story mode. It's dogshit.

>>172074456
they would make the slut elf the mc of an SV anime when it should be Rowen, so I'd rather have horses

>>172074456

Granblue got an anime. Isn't Shadowverse sharing the universe with GBF? So technically we did have an anime.

>>172074674
Then what story do you want it to follow? There is already a RoB anime.

>>172074456
SV needs more fucking story chapters before we can get anything close to an anime.

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>>172074598
somebody punched her to the nose and broke it

>>172074728
>Isn't Shadowverse sharing the universe with GBF?
God no, SV shares universe with the superior Rage of Bahamut

Cow lovers can fuck off

>>172074728
You mean Bahamut.

>>172074794
She looks like the delinquent type so I'm sure she's been in a fight or two.

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>>172073707
My supreme taste > your shit taste, my woman.

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sword is honest

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>>172074728

>Isn't Shadowverse sharing the universe with GBF?

No SV is its own world.

>>172074812

There's nothing wrong with cows just so long as you don't over inflate their worth.

>>172074781
I dunno, I prefer no anime to be honest.

>>172074785
horses aren't even released yet though... also what store chapters an idolshit game can even have

also we can actually get collaboration with it, i already want muh horse jeanne sleeves

>>172073707
>watching 14yo tail
show the tail!

>>172074812
>>172074826
>>172074945

We have Forte they have Forte, we have Vania they have Vania.

Bahamut, GBF and SV shares a lot of characters. An anime of one of these would be an anime for all of these.

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>>172073654
I feel you, we don't deserve such treatment.

>>172074794
If I punch Vampy's nose and give her a nosebleed, would she just thank me?

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>>172074904

It's time to go back to plebbit.

>>172075109
RoB Forte > GBF """""Forte""""""

>>172075209
vampires don't bleed. On the plus side it means shes good to go all month

>>172075209
i think she would bite you

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>>172075214
Then go back, it's not like we need you here.

>>172075109
>they have bahamut thus they're all the same

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Are you guys ready for the card which will save dragon? Honestly much better then lightning blast as it can be used as both a threat and an answer.

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>>172073740

>>172075357

In the same universe*

>>172075392
Pretty underrated card

>>172073909
To be fair, sword was in a really awkward position until pretty recently. Control Sword is really lacking, banner isn't fast enough anymore, and the standard otohime midrange deck is completely useless now.

I'm not sure why this new deck came out of nowhere, but I assume it had a lot to do with the recent nerfs.

>>172074725
>Anime about the backstory about Rowen before the game.
I would watch it.

>>172074242
I think Aegis is immune to last word effects as well. The card is pretty confusing though, we'll see.

>>172073931

This comic doesn't make sense, Luna is taller than Forte

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>>172075340
Cute. Then I'll just bite back.

>>172075331
I learn something new everyday,

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>>172075341

>Avatarposting
>liking shit anime
>somehow thinking these aren't traits of a filthy redditor

okay let me clarify.

YOU have to go back.

>>172075590
You can't Khawy Aegis, correct.

>>172075109
They are not in the same universe. GBF has characters with same name and appearance as the ones that exist in RoB, but they are not the same characters.
Fuck, just look at RoB Monika and GBF Monika. One of them is perfect, the other is a shitty cow.

is dark general worth playing in aggro blood or not?

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I hope the new expansion comes out before this cancer meta makes me kill myself.

>>172075392
Date Masamune looks kinda shitty in comparison, and this is just a bronze card.

>>172075392
Its a really nice card since it got bane and is only 2pp. Makes it really easy to combo with Forte or a cost reduced Genesis to slap face and remove their ward.
In storm ramp I would probably run this over Lightning since its cheaper and you want to burn down your opponent not control them.

>>172075813
only problem i see with it is beeing a 3 drop that dies to pretty much every 2 drop

>>172075767

Their design is the same though.

>>172075838
oh it was 3pp. well its still a good card.

>>172075951
But their are not the same characters and they are not in the same universe.

>>172075948
True, but it can at least sustain 1-attack minions unlike Ruthless Assassin.

>>172075879
Avatarfagging is against the rules.

>>172075807
It gets more cancerous as each xpak ratchets the bar higher.

does ramp dragon need 3x bahamut?

>>172076204
Aggro cucks are supposed to get rekt this expansion so it's all good.

>>172076256
2x at least

>>172076107

So how does it actually work? Why are there similar characters across the world?

Also is Shadowverse closer to Bahamut or GBF or is it just another universe?

>shadowverse
>SHADOW
>people complain about Shadowcraft

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>>172076308

You say that, but it's never strictly aggro decks that are cancer.

It's usually the control/combo/midrange shit that ruins the game.

>>172076331
Multiverse theory.

>>172076256
I've been running 2 because I have 2 and there's been some times where i've REALLY needed Bahamut and haven't had one. Can't help but to think a 3rd would help but it likely would've bricked me instead.

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>>172076308
Le dshift face

>>172076308
You really don't know that yet. It's just a possibility.

that neutral 2/3 ward is going to impact the game more than what people expect.

>>172076375
>shadowverse
>shadow isnt and will never be t1

I still dont get it

>>172074515
Daria MC anime incoming.

>>172076545
No it isn't.

>>172076331
Not sure if there's much thought into it. Basically Shadowverse is Cygames all-stars where they just make cards of any popular character they got.

It's also easier for them, seeing as a lot of the art is taken from the Bahamut card game.

>>172076331
>So how does it actually work? Why are there similar characters across the world?
They are copy-pasted from RoB's universe into GBF's universe. How can that be so hard to understand?

>Also is Shadowverse closer to Bahamut or GBF or is it just another universe?
The cards are all from Rage of Bahamut, but the leaders and the story mode are its own thing and didn't show to have any relation to any other franchise.

>>172076545
There was already a shitstorm when it was previewed.

>>172076405
People give aggro a bad rap when it's a stopcap on degenerate combos and slow decks that don't do anything.

>mfw no one remembers that MTG has a deck that's nothing but crimson sorceries

>>172076545
>muh JO

>>172076405
>You say that, but it's never strictly aggro decks that are cancer.
It's ONLY aggro decks that are cancer. Check out the current tierlist.

>>172076465
D-shift just needs some cards that fuck with spells and such.

>>172076517
I hope, otherwise that will be my last expansion. I'm not getting too invested in something that will just be another Hearthstone.

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>>172069478
>>172069728
I'll use the old tripcode since i forgot the other one.

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>>172076606
>>172076689
It's going to slow aggro down to where you can beat them

>>172076619
>>172076628

Why does it sound like cygames is just milking their characters without much consideration into the lores and shadowverse is just another cash grab?

>>172076717
>I'm not getting too invested in something that will just be another Hearthstone.
It won't be a t4-5 killfest if that's what you mean. Most games will continue to last 5-8 turns from the looks of it though since there's so many t8-10 soft and straight up wincons.

>>172076465
How exactly is D-shift going to steamroll all these control decks when all of them are getting shit ton of taunts and heals? I think control forest will be especially hard for them.

Seraph might be a better option since you don't need to hit face ever.

>>172076689
You are seriously a retard if you think Grimnir's enhance is of any relevance.

>>172076824
>without much consideration into the lores
Albert is worthy of his status as the leader of the Sky Knights ingame. Easily one of the top 10 cards in the game.

>>172076331
If you need a guess for lore, different games are different eras separated by bahamut waking up and destroying everything.

RoB is probably the first, then GBF, which makes SV either the prologue, if we guess that bahamut was summoned by Morning Star as a final boss, or a midquel/sequel

>>172076663
Lightning bolt is a fun cheesy way to win, but remember red tend to run out of steam faster than anything if you bolt to the face while ignoring creatures.

Unlike SV, no board slot restriction make it easier to swarm a red cheese deck whereas LE OLD MAN can rip apart cheap creatures while making his other spells and creature cheaper. Fucking spellboost mechanic is broken as fuck.

>>172076717

Those are """"midrange"""" decks.

They don't run a risk of fizzling out at t6.

>>172076405
Cancer is whatever is in tier one. It doesn't matter what kind of deck it is, people are going to complain.

>>172076742
>It's going to slow aggro down to where you can beat them
Unga bats, aggro shadow and even storm dragon will still function to similar capacity as they do.

>>172076824
>without much consideration into the lores
What do you mean by this?

>>172076963

I assume that there is no mention of morning star in either RoB or GBF?

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>>172077027
Cancer is what you beat me with.

>been literally trying to do my dailies for an hour with non-cancer decks
>have to dust of my Daria deck to actually finish them
I fucking hate this game.

>>172076869
Ward doesn't stop dshift, neither does healing. If that was true control blood and sunhaven would win against them, but they don't. Only board flood or storm fellowers like maelstrom serpent can win against dshift.

>>172076875
What is sarcasm

>>172077098
Honestly, their lore is quite expansive, so I have no idea.

But Zeus and Prince sacrifice themselves in Bahamut Genesis anime, while they are alive in SV.

>>172077121
bird just wants to go face, he's not responsible.

>>172077135
>have to dust of my Daria deck to actually finish them
Uncle anon why?

>>172077328
Because most control decks are shit now and the moment I play them I run into 3 Seraphs in a row.

>>172077053

Weak connection between the franchises even though they share a lot of the same characters.

>>172077250

Maybe they are brought back by the morning star?

>>172077147
>Only board flood or storm fellowers like maelstrom serpent can win against dshift.
Actually, I once stumbled upon a Sun Guardian/Spellblock/Ward deck while playing Dshift that actually beat me. It was probably bad against everything else, though.

>>172076969
Yeah, but that's only because in formats with lightning bolt, decks have to actually be built around the fact that you can be taking 3+ damage with no way to prevent it every single turn unless you're threatening enough.

The problem is that because SV is so creature-focused, but no one except wards can block, you're going to get raped by Albert.

>>172077430
Seems like a waste of cards.

>>172076465
This is perfectly lewd. Is this pokemon?

>>172076829
>games lasting 5-8 turns is good
Jesus christ, do people really consider 5 turns a "long" game?

Hey cunnyverse players, new guy here with questions

1. is there a "cards played by the opponent last turn" history or something?
2. is that vampy girl an alternative leader for bloodcraft or where is she?

>>172076545
we accepted that aggro is dead long ago

>>172077621

Don't bother playing the game.

It's a pile of shit.

>>172077596
Watch out anon, ot they are going to call you a fedora tipper for wantin longer games!

>>172077596
Cygames is hell bent on making games that short and streamlined. They don't want games to be 10+ turns long at all.

>>172077621
The scroll thing in the middle left
Yeah, shop, leader packs

I need some smug Neps, help me /svg/.

>>172077621
>is there a "cards played by the opponent last turn" history or something?
Yeah, check the little scroll drawing thing on the left during a match.

>is that vampy girl an alternative leader for bloodcraft or where is she?
Alt leader yeah. You can buy them with rupies or crystals.

Is this game gaining popularity and players still?
Feels like I see more and more people knowing about it

>>172077596
yes it is

i have no fun in 10+ turns slugfests when you drop stall cards on curve

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>>172077832

No, shadowcraft can only get ropes.

>>172076829
>It won't be a t4-5 killfest if that's what you mean.
That fucking sucks.

>>172077727
>Wanting to be stuck in a 40 minute game playing removal/heals every turn for 20+ turns
Controlcucks are mentally ill

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>>172077863
I like this meme where cards that interact with each other and don't instantly end the game are "stall" cards
This is what a real stall card looks like

>>172077505
Well if you are just playing mono red, there's no way of preventing bolt to the face other than more bolt to the face against opposing player.

Other colors at least have counters,redirection, protection, prevention and life gain.

I'm amazed SV hasn't printed a Serra Avatar clone yet for fucking Haven.

>>172077882
13 minutes until check-in

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>>172078007
>This is what a real stall card looks like

Psh, nothin' personal kid.

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>>172077459
No, I mean, if SV didn't have bahamut, initially, then its a prequel, maybe, because Zeus and Prince are alive.

Also, all games have alchemy, but only RoB has its origins story.

>>172078007
literally black mask

>>172077994
Why not just delete all cards over 6 mana, then? Then you can have the maximum amount of fun ramming face while the other guy rams face with none of those "mentally ill control cucks" ruining your fun. Mirror aggro as far as the eye can see! It'll be really fun, right?

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>>172078007
>reminding me of the best ccg ever made

why remind me anon?

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>>172077832

>>172078007
you know not everybody likes to play a deck that shits wards, removals and then drops your wincon, it's pretty boring, takes way more time and makes laddering a huge chore

midrange will be alive though but i like aggro more

>>172078050
Serra-related cards are shit, I want a laboratory maniac clone.

>>172078007
That craft had some op card like that chinese dragon, don't remember the name. Literally impossible to win.

>>172078128
Does that apply to new things entering play? Still doesn't affect spell damage.

>>172078154
Yeah, and their habit of giving out super important tools to one craft is really going to make this game fucking annoying.

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>>172078242

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>>172077832

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>>172078156
Stop talking about guys ramming it into each other's faces.

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>>172078242
Brutal

>>172077994
I just want some games to last to turn 11 or 12. Control decks in this game aren't really like the grindy ones from others anyway. They actually have win-conditions.

>>172078209
It's not bad but far from best. Well, at least you could have infinite number of creatures on board and special command units, good times. Undeads were lovely.

>>172078142
Also, Daria proved that other dimensions are a thing, And everyone who was really annoyed by her teleporting anywhere on a whim got really happy that she left her own dimension mostly alone

>>172078289
so in your opinion every tool should be released in a DoD-like style? why even have classes then?

>>172078249
>makes laddering a huge chore
That's easily fixed with a real ELO system. The game that card was from had ELO, and the result was that the top ranks had huge variety in games played. Some people had few games played but a 90% winrate, some people near the top were Shadowverse-style shitters who had tons of games played but only 55-60% winrate.
If you have an ELO system and you win most games, you don't have to play many games at all.

Don't you guys feel like the player going second has a bit too much of an advantage?

>>172078349

why not?

its hot

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>>172078289
It's an enchantment, so yeah, it affects everything while it remains in play.

>Still doesn't affect spell damage.
No but his best friend does. Also Leyline of sanctity.

>>172078481
Every non-aggro deck has a better winrate going second, so yes.

>>172078481
Yea and it's mostly because they have 1 more card, not 1 more evolve.

>>172078470
no it is not

i don't want to play a slugfest no matter fucking what

>>172078142

Or maybe in SV they are only using the avatar of the original character, which is similar to hearthstone where the characters are just an imitation and not the original warcraft characters.

>>172078481
Considering evolves are best used to go face in this meta, they're not getting enough of an advantage.

>>172078050
After googling Serra Avatar, I conclude that it would be:
>turn X do nothing, dies to dance of death

Unless they give it storm, then great card.

>>172078458
Nah, but you should provide some parity. You can implement the same broad sort of affect in different ways that are interesting and provide different options for different crafts. We have healing in different manners for different crafts, would you argue that we should remove all healing cards from other crafts because only Haven is supposed to have it?

>>172078481
Yes but it's not a huge deal in constructed.

Certain decks like aggro prefer going first and in many control mirrors like Nep and Seraph the player going first has an advantage.

>>172078249
Some like board interaction though and making plays that don't have an immediate board effect, but allow to do complex plays in the future. You know, winning by playing better.

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>>172078520
No it's not, that's gay. STOP

I just wish the starting hand size were 4. Why is it 3? It's impossible to plan anything other than "drop shit on curve" in the earlygame with 12 2-drops in every deck when you get 3 goddamn cards in hand at the start.

>>172074456
>Published on 24 Mar 2017
W-wait! That's not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYrVKLBhitE

It's finally happening for real!? Wonderful!

>>172078481
Depends on the deck. Daria has some crazy winrates going second because of Levi shenanigans, but I prefer to go first with aggro decks.

>>172078809
They should remove the extra card from the second player and allow both players to mulligan all 4 cards they get at the start.

>>172078631
Maybe. With how glacial SV story is, we might never know.

But,
>DE released after character went to shadowverse
>RoB released with a church theme and Eildolon that has a dragon egg
>ToG has a free for a all apocalyptic battle

>>172078481
No. The 3rd evo will never make up for complete early game control

>>172078842
The problem is that it's literally only aggro decks. Pretty much every other deck prefers to go second, unless in very specific match ups like Seraph mirror.

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>>172077994
Joke's on you, watching an aggro cuck with an empty hand while you have nearly full HP is one ot the most satisfying things in this game.
Too bad it's not possible in the current expansion.

>>172078835
but they posted that vid several days ago already, i don't see how it's news

>>172078964

>Tfw next expansion will be GBF themed

>>172078964
Will they ever catch up with the storyline? Wasn't every set supposed to have new missions?

>>172078249
you know not everybody likes to play a deck that shits 1-drops, storms and hit face all day, it's pretty boring,

>>172078595
Then, can I recommend HS's pirate deck? Games end with turn 3 lethals, instead of turn 5 in SV

>>172078694
well, you're right, but cygames is doing just that with stuff like minthe and blood moon (though the latter is vastly superior no matter how you look at it) albeit slowly

they don't have to, say, release a black mask for every craft in ToG right away

>>172078481
Only if you're a shitter deck that doesn't do anything to set the tempo given by going first.
Control the game, control their life

>Still no new leaders
>Still no leaders from Rage of Bahamut anime

They'll do something for promotion when the anime S2 airs, right?

>>172078809
4 cards would make aggro OP.

>>172079053
>Too bad it's not possible in the current expansion.
Elana Seraph can do it.

>>172079062
Probably saw that it wasn't profitable enough,

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>>172078972
t. never played this game

>>172079053
and will not be possible in the next when you die to midrange and nobody plays aggro

>>172079086
>turn 3 lethals
Literally how?

>>172079225
Yeah I guess that's a good point. Making new cards results in people buying packs, it makes sense that all they would do is that.

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>>172078739
One day....

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>>172079053
Soon, Aniki, soon.

>>172079225

You can't be too profitable when you are constantly giving up free shits and there is no need for people to actually buy packs.

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Is anyone actually playing forrest to climb at the moment ?
I can't climb with Tempo or Bolt
maybe it's because of all the unga swords in AA thou

>>172079052
That's true, but at least right now there's a lot of aggro so it kinda evens out.There are much worse card games out there when it comes to this type of balance.

It's worse in Take-Two where going first has never an advantage.

>>172079086
Pirate warrior has shifted away from it's pre-nerf hyper aggressive roots. The build most commonly run now is closer to a midrange deck that ends games on T6-8.

>>172079297
He's exaggerating, the earliest lethal pirate had was T4 and it required your opponent to basically goldfish and killthemselves with lifetap.

>>172079130
Only aggro benefits from it. Even midrange decks do better going second. What you say makes no sense at all.

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How 2 change voices to JP but keep all the rest in English?

>people play this garbage competitively
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S7U0VQc6p0

>>172079369
Dragon won't be control though
Cygames is pushing everyone into combo-ish decks that want to end games by 7-8, only Haven is going to be relegated into longer games
Dragon is gonna want to ramp to Ouro while fielding a decent board, if they ever let Ouro live you win
A lot of people just won't be able to handle an early Ouro

>>172079373
They should be doing fine though, with each xpak, newbies are further pressured into whaling. And desu, the prebuilts were a good move.

>>172079235
Now post that in english

>>172079408
Yeah, I agree that it's much better than most other card games, but they could still make some adjustments to even the winrates out. I think taking away the extra card the second player gets would be a good start.

>>172079297
Well
Turn 1 1 mana 3/2 that summons a 1/1 and a 1/1 with storm
Turn 2 pirates that are buffed when you equip a weapon
Turn 3 weapon and another 1 drop
Add more pirates with storm and a weapon damage buff for lethal.
>>172079429
Well, if you died with three mana, it seemed like a turn 3 to you.

>>172079504

There is money in it so why not?

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>>172076729
>>172069478
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>>172079369
Give me a quick rundown on this guy.
Why will he dominate this next expansion?

>>172079235
>most decks have around 5% difference between going first and second
doesn't seem terribly bad to me