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>>172019447
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>>172046013
I FUCKING DESERVE IT
I DESERVE overpowered cards, it's NOT FAIR, gamepress is listing me one tier below the top tier, IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
Do you not understand my suffering, only SWORD should be nerfed
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>>172046102
Signup for todays tourney:
http://challonge.com/de/tournaments/signup/OUk7td6jZT
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/aesthetic/
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>>172045989
Bricking aggro.

>>172046078
Go ahead and bully me
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>>172046331
Nth for poorfag casual shitters eternally BTFO
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12597951

http://www.strawpoll.me/12597946
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>>172046247
Every class has overpowered cards, angry anon.
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>>172046315
>aggro shadow

Come on now. You're just trolling right?
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Are you ready, shadowbabs?
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REDDIT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172046427
Name one dragon card that is as blatantly overvalued as Levi
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>>172046247
sword should get nerfed because it's a shit craft and I hate it
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>>172046247
>gamepress
I wonder if they'll let me submit a deck if I streak to 20+. I would make a super shit blood deck and thousands of netdeckers would brick with it.
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>>172046247
Again, where is your argument that Daria isn't tier 2? "You're wrong" isn't an argument. I see no reason to nerf a tier 2 deck when it still does well against the tier 0 deck. Nerf sword, buff some other cards, and then we'll talk.
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>>172046496
*banishes my own board*
Come at me, fucko.
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Forever 17!
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>>172046315
>attendant
>soldier
There's your problem.
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>>172046315
take out all the attendants
put in spooky skeletons or gobu
also imo take out one skeleton fighter
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they should nerf sword because my feelings
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>>172046315
>set of Cerberus
>with Cursed Soldier
Is this a thing?
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>>172046610
I never did argue that it wasn't
All I ever argued that levi was blatantly overvalued, you're the one pushing MUH GAMEPRESS TIER 2 SUFFERING MUH SWORD BOOGEYMAN
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>>172046769
Look at his game history in the previous thread and then ask yourself that question.
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>>172046248
>Luna using Path to Puragatory
N-Nani?! Translation?
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what are some decks to work towards as a new player?

I've tried sword, but I don't think I have the cards for it. As of right now this is the best deck I have, been having a good winrate in it.

I really like the high risk / reward of blood, but I won't have the cards for control for a very long time.
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>>172046484
Not like I do any better when I try to play Nep.

>>172046769
I fucking lost every match I played today so no, it's not a thing.
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>>172046315
>"aggro" shadow
It's shit. A single shitty combo isn't enough to save it. It's """"aggro"""" in the same way Albert is """""midrange""""".

Aggro is dead in ToG. Nep is dead. Board floods on turn 7 won't do shit in removalverse.
Shadow is a dead craft.
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>>172046496
HANDS OFF THE GRAVES
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>>172046860
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2667322
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>>172046775
I've already explained why. I'm looking at it from the perspective of DECK power, not CARD power. Levi is a crazy good card. But the decks he's used in are tier 2 or lower. So why nerf him? Why not focus instead on nerfing the overpowered classes as a whole, and then look at him afterward?
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The current top 1 master has over 2k wins as aggro blood, x2 over rank 2 master. Is he human or actually a bot piloted by a cleverly written AI?
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>>172046860
the joke is right there anon
hint: look up burial grounds
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>>172046524
Not going to claim levi isn't very good even as op cards go. But shit like siegfried, breath of salamander, griffon knight, forte, and even ivory dragon are pretty op. All classes need to have some op cards so they're worth using.
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>>172046909
>nep with 3 drops
What in the fuck are you doing? No wonder you're losing. Your decks are fucking retarded
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>>172046315
Take out 1-2 Demonic Strikes, all 3 Attendants and 1 Soul Conversion.
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>>172046667
>mfw the reason eris conspired with the nexus was so that she can stay in the dream world and be 17 forever
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Wait, people want sword nerfs? Where would you even start? All their cards are pretty honest. Also with the new expansion coming up, ToG will undo what RoB did and that's make aggro overall weaker.
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>>172047053
What should I use instead of 3 costs?
4 costs for Urd and Necroass?
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>>172047037
griffon knight is shit
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>>172047026
the #2 guy played rune for a while then switched to aggro blood
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>>172047053
Not him, I climbed with that deck to Masters with ease. It's that deck exactly, so it's safe to assume he copied it. 2378 Nep literally destroys Sword.
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>>172046864
Aggro blood is very cheap to build! This was the deck of some anon who made it to master I think
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>>172047164
>honest meme
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>>172047007
Because he's blatantly overpowered to the point of carrying your entire midgame to enable your endgame agenda, but that's fair and balanced because I'm only one tier below top tier according to gamepress

You just DON'T UNDERSTAND, my pain and suffering DESERVES this blatant over-value
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>>172046864
You should try aggro blood if you dont have cards. Better options reroll or buy prebuilts.
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>>172046909
>2378 nep
>no khaiza
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>>172047053
nep with 3 drops is not bad though? it's easier to survive the early game against aggro with it
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>>172047053
>anon trying to be condescending while being oblivious to how retarded he is

2378 Nep is the best Nep you fucking retard. I bet you play the worst 2478 version.
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>>172046860
basically she was bluffing about using a Death tyrant deck and she used ptp
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>>172047037
>griffon knight
>ivory dragon
Ahaha what the fuck
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>>172047253
>get Albert to face every turn 5
Sounds honest to me.
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>>172045584
>Iceform is 3 PP and tsubaki is 6 PP. By which point you should already have a massive tempo advantage
By your logic reaper should be also played on turn 2, just because 2pp, right? If you think that smart iceform play is on turn 3-4-5 then you're quite bad at this game. Let me remind you that iceform vanishes completely after 1 turn (i bet you didn't know), you need to have a lot of followers, not just your face to protect. Daria's usually 5 turn card so earliest iceform will be turn 6, that's the best way to get value out of temporary ward.

>Let me guess, C1?
I can ask the same, are you C or D? You clearly don't understand how iceform is played. Go get your master at least before shitposting.
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>>172047185
It's a key card in a t1-2 deck right now.
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>>172046758
>>172047059
What's wrong with attendant? I'm using him along with Urds and climbed AA3 with it easily.
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>end turn
>takes 30 seconds before the opponent's turn message shows up
I want mobile players to go and stay gone
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>>172047358
Yes I do which is objectively better in every single way. How are 1/4 wards going to save you from anything when you can shit liches out instead
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>>172047358
>tfw only nep I ever played was a 2578 list with 3x Cerberus and Goblinmounts
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>>172047502
too passive, slow, expensive for aggro
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>>172047264
Again with the shitposting. This is your last chance.

If you agree that Daria is tier 2, how can you justify nerfing it? How does nerfing Levi keep the other, more powerful decks in check? You're looking at the card as a vacuum. Levi isn't a deck. You don't just play Levi. Nerfing Levi would be like fixing a car with a broken engine and steering column by just making the steering column super good.

You have one more shot. Explain to me why nerfing Levi will help balance the game as a whole, including sword. Especially because nerfing Levi is nerfing one of the best decks that actually counters sword.
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>>172047516
Have fun with those attendants and corpses being ignored while your opponent storms face.
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>>172046914
>Shadow is a dead craft.
Shadow is actually Necromancer, literally a class about the dead.
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>>172047442
>You should only ever play iceform at turn 6, when you know the enemy has tools to deal with it

I'm guessing B rank at best
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>>172047502
>Attendant
>Urd
Did you play control? That anon wants to play aggro and says he's bricking. Apparently he lost more than 5 games in a row.
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>>172047185
It's really good, but there are no tempo-oriented decks for Dragon right now. It's the same Levi actually, no one complained about him until there was a more aggressive deck for him.
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>>172047417
>>griffon knight
reason """face""" dragon beats other aggro
>>ivory dragon
best 1 drop in the game since it doesn't brick you and is basically free value if you draw it later on
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>>172046909
>0 ( Z E R O) lurching corpse
>Why am I losing?!
i'll tell you why you're losing anon. You have absolutely no board control up until nep.
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>>172047516
yeah man, those do-nothing liches will really save your face against albert
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>>172047661
Stop shitposting you autist
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>>172047608
>I'll plug my ears and call it shitposting until you go awaaay!!!
Runebabs are so pathetic and defensive when called out on blatant overvalue jesus christ. There are so many other crafts that you are blatantly ahead of, but MUH SWORD boogeyman keeping me in second place :((
>oh and you can't respond with anything that I think is upsetting or disagreeable, or i'll plug my ears and leave to save face
What is it that makes daria and d-shift players so collectively insufferable, guys?
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>mulligan khawy
>get mordecai
>draw khawy
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Can I get a concede? 22830
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>>172047783
Corpse is hot garbage, if you want to actually control the board, play Lyrial, Khaiza and AotW.
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>>172047783
>lurching corpse
>wanting to fuck up your kamura targets with a corpse triggering first

You are right though. He needs more soul hunt/undying
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>>172047926
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>>172047661
He's bricking because he has Cursed soldier and too many demonic strikes.

It's a great card to just evolve as well. Basically a 3 3 that you can't remove easily. That along with the skeleton 3-drop makes the board pretty sticky against boardclears.
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>>172047654
>shitpost without arguments
As expected from dota scum.
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>>172048002
Mordecai seems like he's just dying for some dueling actions.
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>>172047926
>about 30 2-3 cost cards in deck
>draw cost 8, 7 and 6 after mulligan.
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>>172047908
And here comes the shitpost instead of the argument. Sad! Goodbye.
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>>172047768
>3PP 2 face damage on a 2/3 body that costs a card
vs
>3PP 3 face damage on a 4/4 body that enhances your hand
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>>172048002
jesus fucking christ, I sure hope midshadow is good next expansion
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>>172047208
How could someone has over 2k wins in a month? 2720 to be exact. Assuming 70% winrate it is 3885 games. It takes at least about 5 mins a game to finish even for aggro blood since matching and animations take some time. It is over 12 hrs non stop every day.
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>>172048064
Do not reply to him, newfriend.
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>>172047947
Thanks Erasmus
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>>172048145
No__
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>>172048151
12 hrs a day is nothing for a team of people. They just take shifts so the account is always playing.
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>>172046909
>no ghosts
>no damage
>absolutely no damage to even trigger pact
>wards for no reason

as a shadow main this makes me sad
but then again its probably a netdecking unga retard
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>>172048142
You forgot that one of those costs an evo and one doesn't, anon.
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How the fuck am I supposed to beat "tempo" rune as bats?
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>>172048134
Nice to know you admit you have no argument and can only dismiss things you disagree with, only to announce your leave to save face. Another embarrassment for runekiddies

>>172048098
bu-ut muh static play, I should never play around the matchup
How am I expected to delay the game according to proper tempo, I play rune so I can only follow guides. How am I supposed to think for myself when I'm so accustomed to bulldozing everything with levi?
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>>172048353
Start first
Hope for a better curve
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>>172048064
I don't like him because people can ignore or banish it and then you wasted 3 PP. This is what I'm using right now to level up my Shadowcraft to 100.
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>>172048315

No, it just costs a card instead.
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>>172048294
>>wards for no reason
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>172048145
It won't be anon. It would be "ok" at best, like every other shadow deck.
Also don't forget that Dragon has joined the shadow bullying club along with dirt, which will be played a whole lot more because of Magical Big Guy and Haven in general.
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>>172048353
Just Yurius, bro.
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>>172046102
So that's how you truly unga bunga, really evolve my Alberts.
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>>172048315
In comparison to griffon rider, an evo point is not worth the additional 1 effective card draw, 1 face damage, a rush, a spellboost, and a full 2/2 stat upgrade on top of that
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>>172048487
what is turn 3 windblast
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>Waiting for a Response
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>>172048445
It costs a card to kill an X/2. It's basically value neutral assuming you're running cheap cards that might trade for a 2/2 but a huge tempo swing.
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>>172048245
>>172048467
I guess it's time to go back to 6% play rate
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>The only thing anyone can agree on regarding my shitty decks is that I'm retarded
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>play some seraph
>match up against control blood
>odin
>odin
>odin
Thank god I put in the satan to win anyway
Fuckin bullshit
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Daily Concede help me
66947
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>>172048553
Dariafags run Windblast?
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>>172048467
Dirt won't be as bad of a match up if they just play bid guy and discard all their sigils.
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>>172048461
>1 damage wards
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>>172048696
thanks Sahaqueer
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>>172048661
Just play whatever it is that works for you, /svg/ is mostly just A and low AA trash anyway. Look at what you run into and make a deck that works well against those decks. See OTK shit every game? Play Aggro. See fucktons of sword? Play haven or something I dunno. Fuck what /svg/ says.
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>>172048370
>hurrr durr, i don't follow guides
>hurr durr turn 2 reaper
>hurr durr turn 3 iceform
Smart svg tactician, everyone.
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>>172048661
People just like to shit on everything. Just take out all the bricks in your aggro deck and you'll do fine.
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>>172048260
That makes sense if they have 10+ people invested in this alt account. Playing an hour of nothing but aggro blood is mind numbing.
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>>172048547
Oh, and the ability to use that extra damage on a follower, and at any turn of chosing
But it's perfect value guys ur just bad im only second place on gamepress ;))
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Why is Levi a 3 mana 7 damage card?
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>>172048746
Even a basic calamity still banishes all your zombies.
Price of magic and petrification still hurt.
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>>172048803
it works in Masters more than fine for me :^)
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Is Latham ever used or is he a safe vial?
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>>172048739
Nope, he's an idiot.
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>class you barely play
>It's the only class that you have an almost complete animated set for all its common core cards
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>>172048863
>whatever it is that works for you
Nothing is working for me, that's the problem.
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>>172048865
>I should never use a turn 3-5 iceform for the purpose of delaying against a deck clearly using removal for it
But muh guides TOLD me to, there's no way I could be wrong. I literally cannot process the current turn of events. I am incapable of understanding my surroundings by myself, for I am but a lowly rune main
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>>172048547
Griffon can't hit face. Not sure if you know that. Half that shit (the +2/2, rush, and even the evo effect if you use it on the right minion) is stuff you get later when you use the evo point you saved. You also can't levi turn 3. Obviously you would run levi over gryphon if given the choice. It's just one of the op (in a tempo and not a value sense) cards that dragon gets.
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>>172049059
Oh, ok. It could also be that Tempo rune is not Daria or something in his book.
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>>172048803
>wards are for damage only
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>>172049003
Safest of Vials, why the fuck would he ever see use when Floral exists? He doesn't even have the unique trait of being the only 4 mana commander anymore now that Amelia exists.
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>>172049059
>replies to namefags
>calls others idiots
Lad...
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>>172049003
I've never seen Latham being played as a card or as a leader

He could be patched out of the game and no one would notice
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>>172049259
Stop shitposting dude.
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>>172049093
Bricking means you have too many heavy-handed cards. Put in more lower cost stuff, 5 should be your highest cost cards for aggro necro.
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>>172049160
Thats the thing. He has NO damage at all.
None
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>>172049059
Actually the latest (imo best) version of daria is basically the daria core stuck into dshift. (Not talking about the one that keeps dshift, you just want its early game to maximize draw/spellboosts.)
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>>172049123
Oh right, you can't even use it on face
But rune can because that's entirely fair shut up I'm only tier 2 do you not even fathom my suffering
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>>172048865
Don't use Ritsu to shitpost
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>>172049265
Latham exists to fuck up my Sword pool in T2.
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45966 Could use some help with private games, just 6 to go.
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>>172048948
Most list probably won't play Price of Magic anymore. Calamitous will still hurts but I'll just need to accept and play around it. Not to mention we have better tools to deal with the big guy than most classes.
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>DaS 3 DLC followed expansion
gon be a good week lads
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>>172049357
All you do is disrupt game discussion day in and day out man. Don't you have something better to do with your time? This is a rare honest question so I expect an honest reply from you. Though I will not reply back either.
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>>172049410
DS3 wasn't even that good
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>>172049295
>using a name for the sole purpose of shitting up a general
>spending evety single day ruining a thread on 4chan you hate

Quit being an autist
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>>172049110
>It's okay that i don't get value, as long as my opponent doesn't remove reaper on turn 2 and iceform on turn 3
Sick plays, mate. You must be unstoppable at D rank.
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>>172049410
Who cares about the worst souls game getting another uninspired dlc
More important is that persona 5 is coming out near the expansion
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>>172049676
>spend every day spamming the same 3 messages
>call someone else an autist
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>>172047516
>not running 2578 nep which lets you meme on people with Cerb and Howl
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>>172049732
Did you miss the whole
>play around decks that can and cannot remove said things
Or are you simply incapable of basic reading comprehension and adaptability like the average runeshitter
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>>172049790
>We wouldn't have this problem if you wouldn't use a name.
No. This is just you crating conflict really. Everyone else can just filter or ignore. You are the only person who feels the need to do this thing as far as I can tell. Just filter me or something. Would save you a lot of time.
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>Disconnecting in unranked

It's always the forest players.
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How the fuck do I beat dragon with aggro decks?

I have a huge ass losing streak against these faggots because all they do is wipe the fucking board with their bullshit low cost cards until they can flood the board with storms or drop bahamut

Honestly fuck dragoncraft
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>>172049339
Kinda meh to me. Slower than usual daria and less removal potential than dshift. You can still win 50% of your games tho. This deck is just versatile.
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>>172049410
>my controller broke down so i need to get a new one before dlc
>can't get one till at least weeks later
At least I still have TotG to keep myself busy.
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Where my Swordbros at?

Why people gotta hate us so much? We did nothing wrong. Is being honest really that bad?
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>>172049389

Thank you Vampy, 5 to go.
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>>172050023
You don't, their version of aggro/face is the strongest right now. Ramp Dragon should be easily to kill though as aggro.
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>>172049259
>replies to namefags
Um, why do you care?
>>calls idiots idiots
Is something wrong with it?
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>>172050023
>How the fuck do I beat dragon with aggro decks?
Kill them on t5.
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>>172050023
Aggro is favored against Ramp Dragon...
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>>172050046
No worries bro, people will start bitching about Blood and Dragon next week.
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>>172050153
>why do you care?
How new are you?
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Luna is so cute.
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>>172046102
IZUKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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>>172050030
>Slower than usual daria
Well assuming you both draw optimally it's faster since you have snipes to spellboost your daria with. But I assume you mean you might start getting beat down by emmylous, which is true. The tradeoff is consistency which I care about more but I have no clue which variant has the better win %.
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Stop replying to the fucking namefag and filter him.
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>mfw 2 expansions after this was made control Blood will finally be good
We waited so long.
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>>172050331
Why is that little boy wearing a bikini?
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>>172050209
>Aggro is favored against Ramp Dragon...
This is true from what I can tell. Only time they win is if they get a ridiculous draw like t2 unica, t3 angel, t4 dragon warrior and proceed to stabilize into sahaluci turns after it. Though you can still win as """"""midrange""""" sword even after that.
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>>172050221
Holy shit msn just stop talking to him. This off-topic shit is exactly what he wants.
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>>172050392
I already did, can you please shut up about them
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>>172050331
Luna is NOT for lewd!
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>All of this rune-related shitposting

Cygames, just release hate cards that fuck over rune HARD. Long-standing tcgs have specific hate cards and they don't disrupt balance or viability of decks. Every craft has something they struggle against except Runecraft, where the solution is "Just draw better than them bro" for pretty much any non-meme variant.
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>>172050431
Urias >> shitty retarded loli
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FAVAROOOO
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>>172050392
>and report him
Fixed that for you.

This is the standard method for dealing with namefags and tripfags: Get to arguing off-topic shit about namefags, then report them en masse. Rinse and repeat every one shows up.
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>>172050168
I never have a board on t5 because cygames think a spellcard for 1pp is fair
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>>172046864
Aggro blood is 5 golds for 3 vania and 2-3 vampire fortress
Cursed storm royal is 1-2 golds. Shadowed is really only there for if you get stalled you can clear and re-cloak. Banner memes is pretty cheap as is aggro royal using fangblades for a closer.
OTK disconewt dragon's 5-6 golds but the 3 breaths are core dragon and the 3 altered fate are core ptp neutralcraft
Aggro forest can drive on 3 gold roaches
Storm haven is 5 golds for 3 garuda and 1 valhallan
Tempo spellboost rune can get by with just 3 Levi's
Budget aggro shadow has 0 golds and tries to close out with cursed soldier+board on t7

Neutralcraft's really just the 2 gold wind gods. The 2 uriel are for spear consistency which is important but you'll live for a week to get the vials for them

After that it's luck of the draw. You do all the starter shit for another 64 packs and work with what the gacha spits out at you crafting golds from liquefy extras or saving up for one of the broken legos instead of 4 golds
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>>172050575
Its just a mobile game. They'd put in a match time limit if they could
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>>172050702
Blazing Breath? It's kind of a showstopper but most ramps don't seem to run it against me.
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>>172046864
>right

Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>172050781
Those of which can also be beaten by just drawing better than them bro
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>>172048353
>he cant unga bunga Daria

>>172048739
i think its a tech in or a Daria variant with D-shift
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>>172050727

Saying that it's a mobile game is a pretty piss poor excuse for not doing a good job on balancing crafts.
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>>172050726
>2-3 vampire fortress
That card sucks in this meta. You will lose to aggro shadow and it's too slow to matter against sword.
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>>172046102
Pic need a fix. real Unga sword dont use silly things like wards unless its Alvidas command or veteran lancer.
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>>172049925
>I am so fucking mad about rune
I got your point, mate. Playing against rune must be hard and you've been suffering a lot. You don't have to pretend that you're trying to argue about some plays instead of pooping this thread.
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>>172050896
Do not reply to the namefag, newfriend.
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do we know when the maintence is for ToG? im assuming we're getting one.
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>>172050934
I win enough with it and it's been clutch many times against wards. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too you shitty izuko netdeck shitter.
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>>172051057
Last time I heard it was gonna be 10 hors
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>>172051015
Nice argument glad you could ignore the whole point about adaptability in favor of spouting "u mad" like the average mental capability of a runekiddie
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>>172051059
Do not reply to him, newfriend.
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>>172048002
Its funny when I played some nep shadow.
If I didnt get a Morde in mulligan he was the 1st card I drew in like 5 matches in a row.
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>>172051057
should be in the official site
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>>172050508
>implying there's anything lewd about Luna in that image
What are you, some kind of pervert?
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So which cards are going to be broken this time? I'm betting Aegis.
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>>172051226
Then stop replying to me and get the mods to kick his ass up around his ears. I'm not gonna take shit from a bandwagon cancer babby
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What is vampy looking at?
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>>172051059
I don't netdeck. I just can't fathom how you make that work. Are you running additional bat support cards and focusing on that?
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>>172050316
That's my question. If you don't like namefags, simply ignore. By replying you're doing worse and give them attention. As for me, i just don't care. I hope i satisfied your curiosity.
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>>172050592
Pretty much as.
Skelly bro > Psycho loli.
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>>172049087
>class you barely play
>pull nearly full playsets of all of their legends
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>>172051292
>>All this namefag shitposting
Who?
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>>172051280
>turn 9 do nothing
>broken
Goodness, no. I think Gawain is going to be the cancer of this xpac.
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>>172051280
blood combo will be t1
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>>172051406
Yeah I get it. You like shittposting. Go back to your subreddit already.
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>>172051292
its literally only one guy
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>>172050926
They don't want to balance crafts and matchups, unless its so bad, it loses them money. They want the games to end quickly and don't require a lot of attention.

They want sword to have the role of the follower class, rune be synergies, forest be combos, haven be the stall deck, dragon the big cards and blood/shadow be the wacky memes.
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>>172051442
I don't like how mordecai's animations look
They feel so jankity
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>>172051513
Finally. A rational, intelligent human being with an ounce of self control.
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>class mechanic only activates at half health
>make a card that can do 10 damage in one turn
what did they meme by this?
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>>172051519
>>172051531
I mean, ACTUALLY broken as in, you cannot use them/add them to your deck because they got maintenance'd like Nep and some other cards did.
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>>172051151
>runekiddie
>runeshitter
>lowly rune main
>runekiddies
See? You're just proving my point with all your posts, my angry about runecraft friend. Arguing with you is like arguing with a monkey.
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>>172051628
>jankity
Well, yeah. He's a skeleton.
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>>172051703
Literally telling blood to delete itself
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>>172051629
Friendly remindet that we wouldn't have this problem if you weren't using s name.

You are only here to incite shitposting. That is a fact.
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>>172051567

>They don't give a shit

You're probably right.

I'm just used to assuming people are like me that they take pride in their work, especially if it's going to be used by other people.
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>>172051808
>You are only here to incite shitposting. That is a fact.
Well, I am sorry you feel this way but it simply is not true.
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So is nep random or not? I don't play her but I often see her pull garbage like Unica and Cerberus.

Surely people don't want to pull them but want Khawy/Mordecai/liches/skullcradle/whatever over burning cards from their deck that do nothing but give shadows, right?
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Reminder that filters exist
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>>172051463
>tfw thats me
I never even play sword or shadow only rune and I vialed another 2 pascales because shes worthless
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>>172051749
Your only argument on being called out are "u mad", so you've proved my points in that regard about runebabs being beindead
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>>172051541
Replying to namefag doesn't sound like shitposting for me.
>Go back to your subreddit already.
Use reddit meme when you don't have anything else to say, you're doing it right. Quality shitpost.
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>>172051280
I got high hopes for Eachatar.
Depending Setting up a bunch of Attendants and hells unleachers with urd or just dropping them can become pretty spicy when you drop him since they become more of a threat when they gets buffed with 2 dmg.
And if they get cleared you get a bunch of Liches instead.
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>>172051398
If I'm running up against too much ward I take extra burn that doesn't give a shit about them so I keep on trucking through it. When the meta's light I run a lighter list

>>172051556
We had 4 the other day. It's already over thanks to reddit-kun being a cancerous piece of shit.

>>172051629
>>172051871
>If you ignore the tumor it doesn't grow and metastasize
>The namefags and tripfags that have been increasingly showing up aren't real
>Everyone who's been in a general that was lost to namefaggots breeding tripfaggots into drama town literally never happened
Yeah no you irrational brain damaged piece of shit. It's an anonymous imageboard. If you don't want to be anonymous fucking fuck off to the forums or reddit. It's not fucking hard and it's disrespectful and immature as fuck to obstinately oppose the customs of the place you're visiting

It really is true. Drop the name and pass already. That guy doesn't have to filter you for pseudo-namefagging with your pass if you don't have it on you idjit.
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>>172051871
>everyone knows using a name will result in shitposting
>still use a name
>thread is full of shitposting as expected
>keeps using a name

Really makes you think
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>>172051925
>vialed another 2 pascales because shes worthless
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>>172051934
Here's your (YOU), spend it wisely.
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>>172051825
Eh, plenty of jps are mad too.
Doesn't change that the game is intentionally made this way to be a mobile time waster like clash of clans, or something.
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>:¨)
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>>172051714
death's ledger sounds like a good candidate

or maybe it'll be the eggs
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>>172052086
>vialing legendaries you don't have 3+ of
I don't understand this meme.
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>>172051994
Yeah I know and also werent they tripfags?
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>>172051918

You should probably read the card again, it pulls different cost. So if you only have 4 different cost, for example 2378, you will always pull 1 of each cost assuming nothing else on board. So if khawy and mordecai are you only 7 and 8 you will always pull those. You generally won't always get what you want on the other costs like 2 drops where you have more than just last word cards but it's mostly just mord+khawy that matter anyway.
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Can't believe I got atomemed in AA1.
I was fortunately able to trade a 8 attack Mushu into it, but I still almost lost to this memer (he was also running tyrant).
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>>172051940
>reddit meme
Dumb newfag
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>>172052160
Nice font rendering.
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>>172051987
it seems like they lose the +2/+0 buff at the end of the turn though, which is honestly pretty crappy
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>>172052419
It can still be a board clear which shadow desperately needs
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>>172052543shadow already have 6pp two card board clear 2 random cards
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HEAR THE DRAGON'S
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>>172052543
>12 shadows and 7 mana to deal up to 16 damage in chunks of 4
It's a pretty awful board clear though.
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>>172046331
>it's really difficult to save 1 evo point
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>>172052694
with the new legendary its free though
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>>172052543

>7pp board clear
>when board clears need to happen as early as turn 4

This is ignoring the fact that you have to give up your own followers because shadow """might""" benefit from that.
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>>172052694
Oh, and it's limited by board space.

Eachtar is versatile but he's only decent in each aspect. It's hard to say where that puts him in terms of overall strength.
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78837
Previous match timed out, still looking for help with private games.
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How many Crystalia Tias do you usually run?
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>>172052873
2.
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Talk me out of dirt rune
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65795 Can I get a concede?
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>>172052829
maybe your opponent will think she's so cute and won't kill her, but unless that happens she seems pretty useless
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>>172052980
I won't, easy points if I get matched vs you.
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>>172052980

It's basically what if Sun Haven didn't run Satan but value cards instead.

There's differences, sure, but considering that the general gist of the deck is to chuck wards at stuff until they die, so tomato toemato.
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>play shadowcraft
>against runecraft aka NOT BANISHCRAFT
>GET ALL MY FUCKING BOARDS CLEARED WITH CALAMITOUS FUCK YOU
THIS FUCKING EXPENSION CANT COME OUT SOON ENOUGH SO SHADOW IS DEAD FOR
___GOOD___
AND I CAN PLAY LITERALLY ANY OTHER CLASS
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>172052980
make the opponent run out of cards before you game
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>>172052980
It's fun but doesn't actually work.
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Guardian sun should have countdown 5
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>>172053151
I'll play Dirt Rune next expac just so you get really mad.
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>>172049746
>Who cares about the worst souls
*ahem* dark souls 2-_-??
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>>172053151
you'll be crying here about doing shadow dailies anyway
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>>172053250
guardian sun is broken but the downside is that its not fun for either players
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Why cant you see the opponents hand in replays? I really want to see what this guy had when he had 6 cards as blood and could bring me down to 2 hp with followers and he concedes
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>>172051987
I think he'll run into the same problems already facing the sticky board. Mostly that it's hard to setup going forward, it's very vulnerable to pings, everyone will be running strong aoe to deal with maelstrom nuts and forest boards, and that once you can combo your main board builders, it's not enough and it still wont be enough with eachtar. You also got 0 ghost producers and only 1 usable necromancy follower to proc ghoul's banquet for impious resurrection/conversion/rebirth combos

>>172052694
You have a pretty sticky board most of the time if you try. As long as they make the mistake of trying to face race, you can catch them then rebound behind the zombie/lich board into death's breath into eachtar, into soul eater apprentice necro into resentment breath then undying and eachtar off into the sunset as the bahamuts start flying
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>>172046315
Replace the Attendants with Skeleton Knights.
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>>172053151
That's shadow's stat lines for ya

>>172053515
It fucks with people's heads. Everywhere they've done it, it's been a mistake
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Fucking devs gives nothing to the forest yet another expansion.

I want to roach them in the ass so hard that they won't be able to stand for 3 days.
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Does runecraft have ANY weakness?
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>>172052354
Dumb shitposter.
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>>172053819
dicks
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>>172051871

Give me a single valid reason that justifies your need to use a name on an anonymous image board.
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42526 I need a concede please
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>>172052353
>tyrant
>atomeme
>almost lost
no such thing
your opponent sealed their fate the second they added those cards to their deck
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>>172053819
Aggro blood is decent against runecraft, you're just bad.
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>>172053790
They got a shit ton of control cards
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>>172053931
Thanks Forte
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>>172054074
>this one specific archetype of this one specific class does decent against top tier since release
>you're just bad
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>>172053819
This, they have literally no weakness. Even against midrange sword they can still do fine. And if they manage to go second they there will also be 3 Levi evo, which can shut down any deck in existence
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>daria summons a couple of 3/4s or 2/2s and draws 5 cards? FUCKING BULLSHIT CARD
>nep summons an invincible 8pp card + heals&kills a follower with khawy + kills another follower with corpse + summons a 4/4? completely fine and balanced
-/svg/
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>>172054103
>They got a shit ton of control cards

Read: they got shit ton of useless cards

Nerf Dshift or control is not happening.
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>>172053515
I'd assume replays are recorded client-side and the client has no business knowing what's in your opponent's hand.
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>>172053790
Remove roach and they will be able to make forest new interesting cards without making them broken as hell.
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>People legit complaining about guardian fucking sun.

How can people be so objectively shit?
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>>172052980
dont do it
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>>172054292
>summons a 5/5, refills hand completely and make all cards insanely cheap
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>>172054403
Unga bunga me hit face
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>>172054292
While nep is annoying, you cant drop her on fucking turn 4 at least.
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>>172054292
>Daria comes out turn 5 or even earlier
>Nep comes out turn 8
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can your opponent see what cards you milled?
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>>172054292
Except
>daria can be played turn 4
Nice try though.
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>>172054292

I can't play Nep on turn 4.
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>>172054583
What a weakling.
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>>172054371

Roach is only good with return effect so they just don't need to make more return effect. They can still make other cards that improve forest's tempo like reducing the PP of the cards in hand, like sword's new card.

>>172054292

Both are cancer and need to be roached.
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I fap to Eris everyday
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>>172054292

>turn 4-6 play, or just fucking whenever you feel like it basically, flood the board and burn.
>Do this multiple times
>Deck doesn't get gimped for enabling this

>turn 8 play, tempo swing
>can only do this once or twice due the limitations of Shadow's draw
>Deck gets gimped for enabling this
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>>172054036
A lot of deck has trouble dealing with Atomy you know. Especially Sword. Unless they got Floral Fencer and go 2nd, most of the time it is too late
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>>172053790
>Dryad lets a tempo board mop up tokens without trading
>Beetle warrior helps any deck trade or burn
>Cybele eats tokens and solves the barrage crisis
>Ivy spellbomb gave a more offensive drop to chip with
>Sukuna helps you build a thick board
>Grove gives you consistency against agressive decks out to where you can outward and heal them to death
>Vist gives you consistency against aggressive decks while being a value play late Yes, because with 0 mage faeries, turn 7 will be a 4/7 ward evo rush, a 7/6 rush, and 2 1/1's is nothing
>Mighty dwarf helps clear up the board while still pressuring their leader or sucks removal until
>Fairy cage can be played behind soccer mom to then vomit the midrange combo cards without having to include weak fairy generators
>Jungle warden is on-stat ward that will also fuck people's shit up
>Aerin is a better fairy beast that will be slinging evos back at you to help you control the board on top of being the final push needed for simalacrums to work in forest
>Elf queen basically fucks everyone's shit if they can't otk through your ward wall
>Anomaly has cool art I guess? You're not really dragon that can barf enough threat per turn that empting their removal works. RIP harvest festival, you'll never be 3pp like everyone else.
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>>172054583
>he doesn't tech phoenix roost in his nep deck
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>>172053819
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>>172054745
You forgot
>can be played whenever even on a full board

>has to be played on an empty board or you might get fucked by rng
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>>172054721
You disgusting gerontophile. kys
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concede please

91199
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>>172054995
Be a slutty trap
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>>172054951
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>>172054804
>Jungle warden is on-stat ward that will also fuck people's shit up

I think people are underestimating this card, probably because its in Forest. It's a decent taunt during the midgame, but if you have two of these cards on turn 10 it's going to be a powerful finisher.
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>>172054679
well the problem is.
If you reduce the cost of alot of cards its will be easier to do chip dmg and just keep roaching for stronger dmg in between and sending them back with ancient elf and other stuff instead of just doing 1 big combo.
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>>172054995
You mean like pen and paper stuff? Be a healer but never heal your friends and buff the enemies so you wipe their characters out and they lose their month old campaign stuff.
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>>172054239
Any aggro deck shits on rune. Face dragon's also good choice.
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>>172055279
>any aggro deck shits on rune
>levi evolve piercing rune
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>>172055323
>you always have levi in the first 4 turns
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>>172054036
Aggressive decks don't have the removal to deal with atomemers. Usually after around the 4th big body their hand gives out and it's time for a paddlin'.

>>172054528
No, just the number
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>>172053302
Dark Souls 2 at least had fun PvP builds. 3 was just disappointing all around.
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>>172053819
3pp followers in general, cheap board clears, heals. Ramp dragon have good winrate against rune.
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>>172055401
>aggro always has curve plays
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>was just worrying about wether i should craft my second satan or not
well, i guess that's no longer an issue :^)
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I just got a complete playset of 3x phoenix roost. What deck should I play?
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>>172055440
I want /v/ to leave.
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>>172055401
You're right
They have two
It's like a 60% chance that they're gonna nut the levi dude.
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>>172055323
Yay you killed off two small shits out a lot of little shits.

The only thing helping Daria is if they tech in the frost taunt thing, but even then they mostly get destroyed.
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>>172055473
Except they do considering 98% of their deck is exactly that
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>>172055440
>Dark Souls 2 at least had fun PvP builds
Ah yes, I very much enjoyed actually unbeatable SL700 opponents. Very RPG-like!
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>>172055323
>levi evolve piercing rune
That's right, they can't do levi-piercing-crimson on the same turn.
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>>172055228
if i hated my friends this would be okay

>>172055072
don't know if i could do it
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>>172055552
/v/ hates DaS2.
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>>172055639
The humanity!
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>>172054036
>not running 1 tyrant in your deck so you at least have a small chance to win against those pesky dirt runes or other annoying maximum removal decks.
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>>172055523
Face ramp
Cavalier emissary the roosts for a 3-4pp double roost once you got the nut in hand
Then play your 2pp forte's, 2pp seabrand,2pp gilgamesh 2pp urds, and 3pp genesis dragons for lethal

Worst case is 17 dmg
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>>172055717

Just be a money-hungry scammer.

Get money, focus on nothing else. Fuck having power, fuck saving the world, just get money.
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>>172055729
That's only a half-truth. Then you have niggas calling DS2 a masterpiece.
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>>172055717
>if i hated my friends this would be okay
Ok. Then make a super fucking tanky character and spread all your abilities on defensive attributes or roll full DEX. Be super nimble or tanky basically. Then you can pull shit like sticking your dick inside your party member's mouth while they're sleeping and they'll have to roll die to see if they wake up while you do it but since you might go full ninja or tank, you can probably go ninja style unnoticed or ignore their retribution.

You can also taunt enemies towards your party or fuck with the NPCs into starting shit in town to get their party wiped out ASAP.
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How to deal with aggro decks? I play daria runecraft. What should i tech against them? Appreciate any advices.
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>tfw you lose to dariashift 'cause you drew like shit
im so triggered
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>>172055961
It wasn't. But I honestly enjoyed SotFS more than DS3 and it's first DLC.
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>>172055808
This. If you got it, flaunt it. If you don't nut you'll be in range for a tyrant. It's a storm servant of darkness. That's worth a tech outside of nep

>>172055717
>>172054995
Be a hobo who's sole purpose is to flee, carry loot, and pathetically beg people to do stuff to help him pay denbts
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>>172055995
Just nutdraw bro.
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>>172056004
>tfw made a fairy deck and I lost to a dirt snowman dariashift abomination
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>>172054804

>Dryad
We have May and she did the job better and is cheaper. Dryad just die by anything with 3 attack. This shit is so weak against sword which is a huge problem for forest right now.

>Beetle warrior
Yea this is the only card that I may put into my deck, however forest's 3 mana slot is already quite tight and 5 mana (for the combo) we want to play Tia instead.

>Cybele
Liza is better in every aspect.

>Ivy spellbomb
We are tempo not aggro. That card is shit. 3 mana for 3 damage sucks and sylvan justice is enough.

>Sukuna
A good 2 drop, but we already have better 2 drop and elven mage compete with this for evo point

>Grove

Control is shit because Dshift exists.

>Vist

Control is shit because Dshift exists.

>Mighty dwarf

Not even the best salesman can sell me this shit. Hell it is more shit than the cage what are you thinking.

>Fairy cage

Forest don't want amulet, plus it doesn't give you shit if you have a fairy in hand.

>Jungle warden

Warden is better because it at least give you 2 fairies.

>Aerin
Good art but control is shit because Dshift exists.

>Elf queen

She eats your shadow, which means you can put her in PtP deck and the next elf queen you play will heal for 0. Shit card. Lion is better in every sense.

>Anomaly

At least you have the integrity to acknowledge that it is shit.
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>>172055995
play daria on board

Thats literally it
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My second 5-0!

It's totally the result of good plays and a good draft and not because I played against rank B or lower players, r-right /svg/?
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>>172055171

Just ward it retard. Roach is a 1/1 people just don't understand how vulnerable it is. Sure it can burst but you have so many ways to stop it as long as you are not greedy with your deck.
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>>172056296

There's top arena players on the leaderboard with low ranks.

rank =! skill
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>>172056165
Dshift is only like 1/9th of the meta, queen is still a full heal at some point
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>>172055965
>>172056093
>>172055917
kek i have an idea now thanks for the attention
I will make a Dark Elf who only wants money no matter what, i will also act like a gyaru.
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>>172056296
>It's totally the result of good plays and a good draft and not because I played against rank B or lower players, r-right /svg/?
I've seen a lot of B ranks with the T2 flair so it was probably both luck and skill.
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>>172056165
>We are tempo not aggro.
What the fuck? YOU want to play tempo, and I'm sorry that you didn't get that. In a perfect world you should be able to play any class with any style. There's really no point to discuss it all because you are juding all the cards for a playstyle that has been dead 3 months ago.

I mean you think Lion is better than Elf Queen because she doesn't work with PtP? PtP hasn't been in the meta since forever, dude.
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>>172056689
>I will make a Dark Elf who only wants money no matter what, i will also act like a gyaru.
Are you playing D&D or what?
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>>172056653

Full heal is shit in stormverse. The bad thing about elf queen is that after the heal, your shadow is gone. If your hand is 3 elf queens, you can keep on healing unlike when your hand is 3 lions.
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>>172056391
Just ward it retard

>>172056758
>tfw ptp will never return thanks to the destruct-o-caust
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>>172056653
>queen is still a full heal at some point
you're overrating shadow generation without altered fate. come to think of it they may be trying to incentivize non-ptp forest to start running altered fate
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>dshift
>dshift
>dshift
>dshift
FUCK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>172056795
D&D 4.0.

it's a shame how SV doesn't have Dark Elfs
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>>172056914
Just t5 kill it.
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>>172056875

>tfw ptp will never return thanks to the destruct-o-caust

Good riddance.
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>>172055995
Summon Iceform.
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66572

Need a concede
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>>172056931
I thought Forest had a purple/dark skinned elf in the starter.
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>>172056875
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>>172056865
I was thinking only 1, maybe 2

>>172056887
It's still gonna be something like 11

>>172056931
She's a standard card dude
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I hate when bloodfags make a comeback from 1 hp and demolish your ass.
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>>172056758

Pretty sure that card is for aggro. Forest aggro is weaker than other classes, so we play tempo instead, hence my statement. I do think forest control is possible and interesting but I don't want to give Dshift any win at all. PtP control deck is collecting dust in my collection because of this.
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>that feel when the opponent plays a full Daria board into your calamitous curse
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>still 5 days to go
fug
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>>172057093

As a Cblood main, I live for those moments.
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>people concede for you when you're in the trials
This has never once happened to me, what kind of fairy tale worlds do you live in?
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>>172056165
What it looks like you're saying is Forest has so many great cards that these new cards that are simply good don't have a place.
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>>172056887
Altered fate was needed to reach 30 shadows, you don't need that much. 10 shadows should be easy to reach by turn 7, especially in a forest deck.
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>>172057248
You have 8k of gold and 20k of dust to make decks so you can beat the dailies right?
ypu know how all new exapansions change the meta conpletely?
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>>172057226
>tfw 2 curse isn't enough to stop the bullshit train

>>172057296
You get sandbaggers from time to time. One motherfucker tagged my when I was 1 win away from trials and hit concede before I could. It's been a solid fucking brick of daria, aggro blood, sahaluci ramp, dshift and aggro sword since fucking christ
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>>172057074
heh

>>172057226
Delete this immediately
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>>172056165
This

Its sad to see my favorite class fall this far into the dumpster meanwhile sword gets literally everything
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>>172057398
>dshift still in meta
>still absolutely no way to counter it
Right
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>>172057398
the fuck do you want from me dude I just want the new cards
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>>172057470
Uhh durandall?
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>>172056931
>D&D 4.0.
Ask them if you can use this skill:

http://dmreference.com/SRD/Epic/Skills/Escape_Artist.htm
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>>172057453
Woops, the laugh was meant for >>172057153
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>>172057310
10 isn't a full heal by turn 7 though. I'm not saying you can't get enough to be good, just not quite as good as that guy was saying.
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>>172056875

>0 PP homecoming

That is probably a control/OTK deck with wolf instead of tempo. It is his fault for playing earth rite which is the gayest shit on earth instead of spellboost like normal people.

>>172057074
>I was thinking only 1, maybe 2

You need 3 for consistency. If you run one you might as well not run it. It would be like Reno in hearthstone except we have 40 cards in a deck and hs has 30 cards.

>>172057298

Sword also have many great cards but they keep getting even better cards. Forest just want new toys to play with.

I want a good legendary like Daria for forest instead of these 2 shits.
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>>172057470
>double dshift and I had 4 wards.
>Soul glutton kept me on 20 hp until all wards where removed.
To close for comfort.
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>>172057540

If only rune had cheap ammulet removal of some sort...
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>>172057398
i'll keep using the same shit to do my dailies no point in wasting if im not gonna play that craft for anything else but dailies
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>All winconditions have hate cards except D.Shift
Nice fucking game Shadowbabs. Yes, yes, just play aggro bro, just draw better bro, I know. How about they remove banish and you do the same against Nep and Seraph? Isn't it funny how there hasn't been a single spell wincon made since D.Shift from standard?
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>>172055879
Post dick.

>>172055995
How the fuck do you lose to aggro as Daria?

t. bats
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>>172057470
PtP
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>>172057710
>give them a free 2/2
really makes me think...
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>>172057730
>except D.Shift
Doesn't dirt get some tools next expansion?
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>>172057616

>It is his fault for playing earth rite which is the gayest shit on earth instead of spellboost like normal people.

t. Mad unga shitter.
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>me: ok, cool, i just need to topdeck 1 of 15 cards in my last 20 to win
>game: nope, sorry
>three turns in a row
neat
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>>172057540
Durandall will only work against runes that didn't get their shit

Protip, they're getting 2 more tutors
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56039

concede pls
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>>172057885

>Not playing earth rite
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>>172046102
So is white wolf or roach Forestcraft better?
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>>172057967
I love it when that happens.
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>>172057885

whoa man, that's a complete reversal in board state.

talk about completely stopping that OTK that steamrolls through wards and where even being at 18 is considered dangerous (not that they couldn't take you down from 20 anyway)
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>>172057730
>Aegis
>roach
>wolfbolt
>>
why is seraph allowed
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>>172057949

What else can I say? You gave me a 1 in 1 million webm which is not even about tempo forest. Ward is super effective against most forest because nobody plays rose gardener and pixie's mischief. It works 99% of the time.
>>
Just reached AA0 with 369 wins, is that average?
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>>172057686
Doing god's work.

>>172057710
And 30pp to use on a 3-5pp spell

>>172057758
>Take the ramp you got
>Take the face you got
>Put in the roosts
>Take the stall you prefer, wards or ramp flute, or removal spam
And there you go
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>>172058284
With a tier 1 netdeck? Yeah.
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>>172056931
Not exactly a dark elf, but now I want to fuck goth Arisa. The PTP association is so fitting.
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I don't understand this griffon knight shit on face dragon, I tried using it for a while and eventually came back to my old Ironscale Dragonfolk which does the same job and doesn't send your mussushu to the discard realm
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>>172057885
It really does. Because they never get to do anything with it. Roland also can't stack or make additional durandals so you ever only have to get rid of one in FOUR turns
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>>172058284
How long it takes to rank up really depends on your playstyle. A lot of people just coast with meme decks after A0 because of how grindy it gets.
>>
53265
Please concede
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>>172058409
Aggro blood and tempo forest
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>>172058204
>A turn 9 play that attacks on turn 10 is a counter to a deck that wins on turn 7 and 8
>A turn 8 play that OTKS on turn 9 is a counter to a deck that wins on turn 7 and 8
Yes, pretending, baited xddd you got your (you) don't spend it all at once.
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>>172058204
How does a turn 9 unkillable follower stop a turn 8 OTK? It doesn't even matter if you have contest of strength out because you won't have Aegis before they Dshift.
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>>172057730
Durandal
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sword is honest
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>>172058418
tales from D2
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>>172058616
>sword gets another way to counter Dshift
Cygames does it again!
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>>172058575
>>172058575
>All winconditions have hate cards except D.Shift
>Implying 18 damage from hand and aegis have hate cards
These arguements are the same as just aggro before dim shift.
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>>172058697

>Playing overstated followers with ridiculous effects

Yeah it is more honest than turn 4 Daria tbqh
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>>172058910
sword doesn't have Yurius
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>>172058723
Damn, how will I ever recover.
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>>172057398
Who else is banking on them doing more x million download promotions to get a decent amount of packs?
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>dshift adds another turn to yours AFTER the opponents turn

Is dimension shift finally fixed?
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>>172059042
7 mil to 8 mil in about a month, wouldn't be surprised if we hit 9 mil in April.
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>>172059020

Sword also doesn't have floral fencer and Albert.
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>>172059149
Dshift is fine.
>>
I want to sew the asshole of every Dshift player shut and feed them until they explode.
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>>172058905
This is true. I've never played Seraph or soon to be Aegis, but I see no point in playing it when you can still be bursted down by aggro, and just flat out lose to Dshift.
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>>172058418
Tempo swing that doesn't cost an evo.
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What midrange decks rape dshift that isn't Sword?
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>>172059240


Yeah. Just rope every Dshift you encounter and it will all be fine.
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>>172058905
>card that isn't even fucking out yet
>durrr well it doesn't have hate cards too!
>D.Shift is there from day fucking 1
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>>172058723
Don't your evolved followers survive even one turn?
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>>172059020
Because Yurius rivals Albert.
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>>172059243
You wouldn't have to feed them shit, because they're all already full of it
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>>172058905
Upcoming TotG burn list

>15 storm dmg from Zeus
>15 Storm dmg from gilgamesh
>12 dmg from Lucifer evo
>9 dmg from Levi Evo crimson sorcery
>9 dmg from disaster witch crimson sorcery
>9 dmg from halo golem
>9 dmg from demonic strike
>6 dmg from runes
>6 dmg from dance of death
>6 Storm dmg from commence experiment/conjure guardian/etc. cantrip fueled blade mages
>3-15 dmg from mutagenic bolts
>3 dmg from snipes
>3 dmg from magic missile
>3 dmg from angel of the word
>3 dmg from consistency lyrial evo
>3 dmg from barrages
>(123)114(102)(99)(93) burn depending on lyrial/levi/Luci evo. Obviously Olivia is very mean. with another 9ish avg each

Rune is able to kill 6 leaders before its conjuring force board and rune/DoD's bend you over with snowmen and golems.
Snowy Conjuring Guard Burn confirmed tier 0
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>>172059340
There are none. You either play aggro and kill him before he plays dshift or you lose
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>>172059340
>midrange
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>>172059340
a "midrange" blood deck that runs mostly aggro cards
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>>172059340
Long range sword.
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>>172059340
2578 nep if you're lucky.
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>>172059340

Tempo forest if you manage to draw your Liza.
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>>172059149
No. They gave rune a 1pp fireball that can hit for 3 and 2pp spell that does 2 damage to a follower and face. Dshift is now probably stronger than ptp in standard.
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>>172059340
>midrange outside of Sword
Ain't that cute. But it's wrong.
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>>172059340
Storm "midrange" Haven
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>>172059602
Otohime makes my sword long range
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>>172059340
Ambush Aggro Shadow.
Not even joking, I've won every game vs dshift because they literally can't answer Phantom Dragon.
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>>172059686
Yes, strongest 45% deck in history of shadowverse.
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>>172059340
Aggro Blood but you put in 2x Alucard so you can pretend it's midrange
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>>172059340
Midrange does not even exist in the current meta.
"Midrange Sword" isn't midrange at all, stop drinking the coolaid.
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>>172059781
If its thats bad nobody would play it. Stop bullshiting
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>>172059619
How does it work anyway? Liza is only 2/2 golem and levi can kill her. Don't you need either bounce or draw multiple to make 1/1 fairies not die to missile and snipe?
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>>172059772
Don't some lists run Fire Chain?
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>>172059731
http://usamin.love/card/sea_queen_otohime/j_evolve.wav
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>>172059731
cuck
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>>172059980
A lot of lists run Fire Chain
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>>172059781
Its only because it pushed all slower decks out of meta. That aren't turn 9 otk.
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>>172060021
I will never understand this picture but seeing Rowen looking at me always make me smile.
>>
So what's the point of Zoos
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>>172059980
By the turn they have fire chain ready to use, they're already at at 10 hp or less. You can also just fall back on Cerb+Howl for 11 damage
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>>172059908
Yes, just like ramp dragon. That means ramp dragon's actually good.
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>>172059924

You stall their early game because they usually don't want to waste their spell for 0 damage. If you manage to do that, their spellboost effect comes later and you can trade more effeciently. Things would be better if you get second Liza or manage to bound her off. They also usually don't play Levi naked on turn 2. If they do that you probably already won.
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>>172058310
I tried and made a thing. How's it?
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>>172060230
but control isnt even close in winrate against aggro as d-shift is against control.
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>>172059781

>Deck that warps the meta to the point where you have to play aggro or just autolose against dshift

If the meta were to suddenly change to nothing but Nepneps and Dragons of course Nepnep is going to be statted as this unstoppable god deck. Doesn't mean that it is actually an unstoppable god deck.

Just like how an aggro meta beating dshift doesn't mean dshift is this dumpster deck.
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>>172059781
Dshift is everywhere in master. There really isnt any counter to it outside of sword and extreme aggro decks just like ptp. Now it is not uncommon dshift activates at turn 7. Turn 7 ptp was rarer and it doesnt kill you instantly. You dont even need 2 dshift now most of the time because of levi, piercing rune and runeblade runner.
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>>172060230
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Using Baphomet to fetch Medusa, yay or nay?
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>>172060371
phoenix roost will never be strong as long as strong storm followers in fast aggro decks are viable. so most likely never
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>>172060230

With how bad the powercreep is (Daria, Albert and multiple sword cards etc) you need more bounce effect to make roaches great again. Roaches, and forestcraft as a whole is getting overshadow very hard because they were shafted for 2 expansions in a row.
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>>172060493
Will there be any reason to play any deck that isn't dshift after ToG kills aggro?
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>watch the tourney
>daria wins
>albert wins
>daria wins
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>>172060371
I tried the same thing and ended up with this.
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>>172060586
Yes, otk haven.
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>>172060230
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>>172060597

Which is why we urgently need a good forest card to counter all those cancers.
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>>172060371
Seems alright. You may want to add 2 sieg/wild hunt and 2 dragon warriors for control. If you want more storm, seabrand/gilgamesh will do. Eyfa helps fill out your storm when you don't have the roosts quick.
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>>172059781
Because shitters don't know how to pilot the deck. Good Dshift fucks control almost every time and only losses to aggro half of the time.
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>>172060552
nay, medusa is still bad
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>>172060736
How would OTK haven even work? Double Sculpture, Double Archer, and top up with rabbit healer and 2x holy water?
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>>172060793
Christ, I forgot the Dragon Warriors.

Thanks anon.
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Why the fuck do Shadowbabs whine all the time? Your deck is strong as fuck. I barely play the fucking class and I'm having more success with it than literally every other deck except """""midrange"""""" Sword.
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>>172060295
Do you play Liza at turn 2 if you see him played golem? Isn't just gonna get traded for nothing?
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>>172060586
>ToG kills aggro

How?
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Does anyone have that Arisa PTP picture?
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>>172060586
tog won't punish aggro hard enough to make d-shift a really unfavourable matchup. it will however give d-shift a fighting chance. So the meta will only be d-shift and aggro decks
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>>172060552
Nay. You still have to rush her with executioner's axe and she'll still die next turn for value loss.
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>>172060586
If control kills aggro then D-shift kills the slow control deck and then aggro surges to clean up D-shift.
quite the balanced meta actually.
all we have to do is suffer D-shift existing and no control deck ever being t1 as a result.
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>>172060597
Where's the stream?
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>>172060580
Roach will never not be tier 1 because it fucks control and has the early game to fuck aggro and goes off faster than other combo decks.
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>>172060929
Is this girl actually Unica? Some stuff is different and it's not like you can tell with anime art style.
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>>172060773
We need good sword card to counter daria, dshift and a few control decks. Sword can be our savior.
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>>172060918
It doesn't print more mindless neutral burnremoval like DoD. In the mind of the aggro subhuman, that's the death of aggro.
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>>172060918
>muh test of strength
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>>172061054
>I'm retarded everyone pay attention to me!
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>>172060895
post decklist
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>>172060901

Yes. But if I have Sylvan Justice I'll just use it instead of slamming down Liza.
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>>172061068
fuck off pet
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>Did better with my own Blood aggro deck than the competitive/high rated net one

WELP
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>>172061175
post proof + decklist
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>>172061108
>he said as he shitposted
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>>172061054
It's a 2hu
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>>172060895
is anyone suddenly a shadowbab if they criticize aggro shadow?
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>>172060885
I was working on OTK Haven with that simulator some chink anon posted here.

At least it works as a meme, not sure if it can be consistent in constructed yet,
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>>172061106
But thats only 1 follower? They can easily just you know attack it and destroy it right away and continue hitting face?
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>>172061197
I can't I deleted my own deck to replace it with the net one, which is why I'm going "welp"
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>>172061230
It's Touhou.
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>>172061027

You clearly never play forest. It is getting harder and harder to win with roaches with all these ridiculous cards.

>>172061068

Sword is the cancer that need to be cured with those bunch, preferably with a few doses of roaches.
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>>172060895
>never played against haven
It's strong, but banish haven cucks it so insanely hard, it's hilarious.
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>>172061307
>I can't remember a handful of card changes
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>>172061135
>>172061343
Wow, so much hate, take it easy.
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>>172061307
nice surprise box bro
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>>172061317
Thanks.
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3 games and i havent drawn a 1 drop
this is so much fun!!!!!!!!!
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>>172061106
>>muh test of strength

>Mfw that is just a waste of space for opponent because I usually just trade to get on board anyway
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>playing against shadow
>wards
>wards
>wards
>wards
I'm starting to really hate this fucking game
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>>172060685
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>>172061307
Export your deck to the sv portal then save the url to a txt file
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>>172061431
you already have so much mate
>>172061495
no unga bunga for you
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>>172060773
>Forest won with tia, double fairy beast and roach into AE
Forest is a problem too
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Play a follower. I dare you motherfucker. See what happens.
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This guy was running angelic barrage in his dshift deck. Killed my first reaper out of nowhere. Then I dropped another reaper and evolved him to dodge the second barrage. I thought it was kind of interesting since nobody has really played that card since halfway through DE but it was an auto include in every deck then.
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>>172061343
I've played a lot of forest and it's evident that roach was beyond broken for half a year and other decks are finally starting to catch up.

A lot of forest players thought they were good instead of the deck having a natural advantage against everything, so now that they have to think instead of just playing EPM into Feena and instantly winning the game they think the entire class sucks.
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>>172061687
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>>172061116
It's just a shitty homebrew. The deck builds itself, didn't need to netdeck for it since I know it card for fucking card, because I run into it all the fucking time.

>>172061378
>Haven
>Existing in masters
Good joke nigger. I've run into 3 Havens this entire week, and they're all storm.
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>>172061495
Stay strong. May quickblader bless you..
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So for next expansion it's going to be Dragon>Sword>Blood=Rune>>Forest>Haven>>>>>Shadow?
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>>172061638

Forest was comfy, but after 2 expansion of nothing in forest's favour forest is falling hard. Tia is not really a problem if you look at all these ridiculous cards from ToG.
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>>172061736
How do you know its dshift from only 5 turns?
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>>172061495
>its a "2 phantom howl and a Cerberus starting hand vs haven" episode
kill me now
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1pp commander reveal when?
I need maximum efficiency for my gawain/luminous deck
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>>172061869
Sword > rune > forest > blood = dragon = haven > shadow
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>>172061869
Rune=Haven>Blood=forest>sword=dragon>shadow
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>>172061869
Sword > Rune > Haven > big dragon > Blood >Shadow
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>nep vs elana haven
>draw all 3 mordes
>they all get banished
>draw 0 (ZERO) neps
>he heals for 30+
boy do i love this game
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>>172061869
>>172062016
>>172062018
>>172062037
>implying Nep's gonna be bad
>implying aggro shadow isn't getting buffed hard

/svg/ in charge of being completely wrong once again
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>>172061869
How long have you been playing this game? Not long I take it, because even a retard can tell Sword, Forest, and Rune will always be the best 3 classes.
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>It's a Dshitter spends his entire 3 turns jerking himself off instead of just killing me episode
These people should be gassed.
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>>172061869
>>172062016
>>172062018
>>172062037
Why are you bullying runa-chan?
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Roost against dickshit is a terrible idea, right?
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>>172062128
>implying aggro shadow isn't getting buffed hard
What, the ward ignore?
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>>172061953
>complaining about playing shadow
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>>172062128
Nep wont save you from a board full of maelstrom dragons or aegis
>>>aggro shadow
Yeah you're going to aggro hard with those sick 1 damage followers
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>>172062189
That fucking horrible anon
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>>172062189
Very bad idea yeah.
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>>172061879
>2 expansion of nothing
Forest only got nothing in RoB. They have some playable cards in ToG.
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>>172062189
You can only play them when you have lethal in hand, otherwise you're done
Since you probably have to emissary double cavalier while doing nothing, you're probably going to get shifted before you can set it up.
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>>172061027
Roach gets obliterated by wards and stall.
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>>172062331
You can tech around wards.
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>>172062156

Cygames is bullying Luna.
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>>172062331
Just bounce the wards
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>>172061742

You do realize that they printed a lot of good wards right?

I only have 1 roach in my deck because I refuse to craft any cards from standard pack (I'll get them eventually) and most of my matches are not decided by roach, I still feel like my deck is getting weaker. The point is that there is no good alternative from both expansion we get right now.

If you want to talk about mindlessness, you can point to those aggro decks and banner meme instead of tempo forest which actually require some thinking and ordering.
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>>172062405
>>172062413
>just play wolf into homecoming bro
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>>172062405
>just sideboard bro
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Fucking retard card is forte ,almost impossible to win as a Dshift if they go second is more than 20 danage before t6.

d-shift need some healing effects
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I want to make my opponent suffer as much as possible, what deck should I play?
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>>172062331
>roach gets obliterated by wards
>>172056875
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>>172062550
>d-shift need some healing effects
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>>172062462
You aren't playing forest unless you have 3 roach and 3 soccer moms. Your opinion means nothing here, anon.
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>>172062607
dirtrune
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>>172062671
>>172062473
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>>172062550

>My T1 deck isn't invincible and loses matchups
>Wah wah fix it now

this is why rune is rope on sight.
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>>172062607
gsun
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>>172062109
>Complaining about Nep's worst matchup
It's like complaining about ramp dragon bricking vs Unga Blood
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>>172062550
>dshift also heals you for 10 each turn
There you go, dshift is now balanced.
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What do you guys run in the 4 slot for your neps?
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>>172062817
floral fencer
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>>172062817
Jeno
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>>172062742
>Dshift
>tier 1
LOL

>>172062550
But seriously, the real problem is you're playing a deck with a ton of autolose matchups and then complaining when you autolose. If you only have Dshift that's unfortunate, but if you have multiple decks, you know what to do.
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>>172062817
levi
oh wait :~D
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>UH SWORD IS TOTALLY BALANCED XD
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>>172062817
hells unleasher/malicious ghost
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>>172053819
bricks.
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>>172062707
>>172062754
What is more fun to play as?
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>>172062817
Cudgel.
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>>172063003
lmao2Leo
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>>172063003
>losing to leonidas
uh, havenbabs?
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>>172063003
Why didn't you run acolyte's light?
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>>172062705

The point I want to make is forest has other way to win instead of just mindlessly roaching like other twats here think. And the other point is they get jack shit for 2 expansions.

>>172062303

All of them are kinda inferior to current options. The rabbit and the beetle is viable but they don't feel like a major upgrade to current alternatives. Just compare what we get and what other classes get and you'll see how bad our situation is.
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>>172061894
you can tell as early as turn two depending on what cards they play
nobody runs trail of light in daria or dirt
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>>172063003
>didnt banish leonidas
>2 of them
>as haven
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>>172063010
Surprise, every class bricks.
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Have any japs put together a Maelstrom Serpent list yet?
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>>172062962

>I-it doesn't count as T1 because of muh winrate

Why do I keep seeing it in masters then? Where everybody is being a tryhard fucker for some weirdass reason?
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>>172063097
>>172063107
>>172063149
He used Urd before I could banish him
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>>172062817
Weakness seeing man.
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>>172063202
Do you keep LOSING to it in masters?
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>>172063003
not triple seraphing isn't sword fault
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>>172063197
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>>172063003

Whoa man, that looks exactly like an Elana field.

>they're not at full health

Oh never mind, it's weaker than an Elana field.
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>>172063282
He Odin'd two of my seraphs and I guess third one was at the bottom of the deck
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>>172062550
Dshit needs to be removed.
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>>172062817
Ring of Repick
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>>172062213
>Orthrus
>Deadmoon
>not hard buffs to the deck

Personally I also think Prince and Soulsquasher could see play in aggro, but even if they don't get used Orthrus alone is a huge help in pressuring face and getting a removal tacked on, and Deadmoon gives them an out against all the wards that are getting printed in this expac.

>>172062228
>implying turn 6 Maelstrom is gonna be an issue

We'll see turn 6 Temptress more than we'll see turn 6 Maelstrom, and besides that, Nep has enough ways to stall out the full board of Maelstroms anyway. Death's Breath stops it unless they start teching Hungering Horde explicitly for the Nep matchup, and you have enough removal to where you can easily remove at least half of them before they get to go face, and after that you just drop Khawy and heal into your Nep turn.

>implying turn 9 Aegis is gonna be an issue

It doesn't stop Mordecai from going face, and by turn 9 that's almost all you're doing since you want to be closing the game out by then. Haven in general will be an issue due to all the banishing, but Aegis won't be the card that makes it a hard matchup.

>implying aggro shadow only has 1 damage followers

The vast majority of them are higher than that, but that's pretty obvious so I don't really know what ya expect me to say here. It's already a good aggro deck, and the new stuff it's getting in Tempest will almost definitely make sure it's one of the few aggro decks that survives the upcoming meta.
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>>172063202
Because dshift players are nice people and want to give others free wins.
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>>172063003
>not running bahamut
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>>172063378
rip
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>>172063378
what a slut
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>>172063324
>Bapho & chaos ship
Hello C1
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>>172061869
Why can't we catch a break Shadowbros?
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38249 Just two more private matches to go.
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>>172063280

If I'm not aggro, yea, I do.

Even then, being aggro isn't this instant anti-dshifter magic that works like how running dshift is anti-control magic.

>>172063430

I assumed it was because they're spawns of satan that wanted to ruin shadowverse for me, but okay your answer works too I guess.
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>>172063430

Yeah, I agree, and we should all rope them when we meet them to show our gratitude.
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>>172063003
>2 leos
>in banner
AHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHA
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You can see the aggro swordshitters brain melting. Topdeck gods were with these memes

>>172062473
>Just pixie's bro

>>172062550
Gauntleted healer much?

>>172063003
Just Acolyte it bro
Just themis it bro
Just bahamut it bro
Just execute it bro
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>Literally everyone runs Odin now

I DONT EVEN LIKE PLAYING HAVEN
I JUST DO IT FOR THE MISSIONS
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>>172062109
You shadowfags will get no sympathy fro me
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>>172063420
>unless they start teching Hungering Horde explicitly for the Nep matchup
most non aggro blood decks run hungering horde, the card is insane.
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>>172063420
>Orthus
>4PP Follower
>1/2 → 3/4
>Fanfare: Deal 2 damage to a random enemy follower. Then give +2/+0 to a random other allied follower.
That's a midrange card if I ever saw one.

>Deadmoon
>2PP -
>1/1 → 3/3
>Fanfare: Give an allied follower the ability to ignore Ward.
Big fucking deal, it doesn't support the deck very much.

>Prince Catacomb
>3PP Follower
>1/1 → 3/3
>Fanfare: Give all your allied followers gain Last Words: Summon a Skeleton.

Literally a worse Chimera unless you have 3 followers out already.

>Soulsquasher
>2PP Follower
>2/2 → 4/4
>Necromancy (4): Destroy an evolved enemy follower.
Jesus, no. You don't have time and resources to deal with the opponent's board, especially not at such a high shadow cost. Do you even play shadow aggro?
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>>172063842
Why do people shit on people who play mid tier decks?
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>>172062109
Morde shouldn't be your only wincon.
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>>172063736
Conjuring force is extremely underrated
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Holy fucking bricks.

>swordfag's probably not even gonna let me live to t6
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>>172063908

Because nep is too insane. I would be kind to that little girl too before Bahamut hit.
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>>172063907
I meant 2 followers out on Prince Catacomb, typo.
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>forest player has nothing on board turn 8
>drops me to 2 hp with triple roach, natures guidance and fairy spam
>win next turn anyway
I sure would have been upset to get otk'd from 20 hp. Why did they nerf goblin mage instead of roach?
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>>172063908
because this general if full to the brim with swordfags
they have a long list of things to complain about and that one time their control sword deck lost to mordecai is one of them
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>>172063378
Why are vampires so perverse?
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>>172064145
So if a deck has a chance of winning you shit on it?
Grow up
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>>172063546
slut shaming is retarded
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>>172064067
At least I got to play one before second albert to the face killed me. Why did this faggot have to spam emotes every single turn anyway? Swordfags are fucking subhumans.
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>>172064183
>my ghetto d-shit deck with no merlin and two shifts winning me games

sure it's a2, but i didn't expect my quest to be finished so fast
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>>172064341
fuck off
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>>172064341
t. RL slut
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>tfw fairy beast absolutely BTFO's albert sword.

I can't wait until forest gets some real control tools in TotG on top of everything else.
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>>172064242

Not really though. The deck is T1 in competent hand. Nep is more insane than Daria.
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>>172063908
Because you have a silver card that out values all of our legendaries
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>>172063656
Then that explains it. People in masters are playing control, and Dshift counters control. Overall, the natural state of the game should be that decks that win the most consistently will be the optimal choice. But if you know ahead of time that you're going to facing a lot of a specific strategy that you can counter, that's what you'll be doing. Dshift itself is terrible if you can't predict that the meta is mostly control.
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>>172064341
I agree, why would you slutshame someone who wants to be called a slut? Makes no sense
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>>172063569

Thank you Urias, just one to go.
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>>172064465
>albert sword
Kinda redundant since every sword deck runs 3 of that fag.
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>>172063908
dunno if you've been away from these threads for a while but people have basically been perpetuating this meme that shadow is this very opressive and strong craft deserving of hate for the last week or so

basically, you're not allowed to be happy because of khawy, but do not fret because you can play albertcraft just fine and be called honest in this general
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>>172063907
Orthrus is about as "midrange" as Angel of the Word. She's 2 damage up front with tempo removal tacked on.

>deadmoon
>2pp
What

>Worse Chimera
Name three situations where Chimera is better if you have a 2/2 on board when you play curve Catacomb.

Soulsquasher is shit I agree.
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>>172063907
I think the idea for catacomb is he's an off-curve follower that you use after you've spread your board wide to keep them on the board for an eachtar followup.

>>172064394
More like subhumans are subhumans. I barely managed to squeak one out against one just now and they congratulated me on the conjuring memery
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>>172064067
DELETE THIS ONLY RUNECRAFT BRICKS WRONG WRONG WRONG
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>>172063907
>Orthrus
>midrange

Giving +2 attack for a follower to go face is midrange now? No, I don't think so. Midrange has better turn 4 plays than this, specifically ones that either generate more shadows or generate more board presence. This is to plink off one of the opponent's turn 2 or 3 followers and get an extra 2 damage to face, to be immediately followed by Cerberus and then Howl combo. It's pretty explicitly for aggro, not sure why it'd be used in midrange when things like Necroassassin, Urd, and sometimes Unleasher are already taking up the 4pp slot there.

>Deadmoon
>2pp

No, it's 1pp. At 2pp it'd be useless, but at 1pp it lets you finally replace goblin and get a bonus effect that will sometimes be super useful, especially with how many new wards everyone else is getting.

>Prince

That's pretty much my thoughts exactly, that it'd be really useful on-curve after a 1-drop and a 2-drop, but less useful afterward to the point that it might not be worth including at all. I'll have to test it to find out, but you're most likely correct and stuff like AotW and others will still be preferable options.

>Soulsquasher

Eh, I was thinking of it as maybe a 2-of at most, and only when you had the shadows to spare when your opponent had lethal and you need one more turn to kill. Still, I'm gonna side with you on this one and say yeah, it probably won't pan out due to cost.
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>>172064468

>comparing a control deck that focuses on a t8 play as opposed to Daria
>an """"midrange"""" deck that comes online as early as turn 4

Shadow decks are literally what Rune decks would be if they weren't broken cancerous messes that highlight how fucking stupid the devs are.
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>>172064924
No anon I actually lost to Shadow once so they're super cancerous and faggy, okay?
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>>172064924

With so many tools available for control to stall, nep is just a stronger version of Daria which comes online a bit later.
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I need a concede, will return a concede if you need it to.

Match ID: 13105
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>>172064725
The idea behind Catacomb is that you play him and he gives you a 1/1 every time the opponent removes another one of the followers you had in play when you dropped him.

I can't remember, where have we seen a card like that again?
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>>172064638
urias should have a mic in one hand and the mic stand in the other
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>>172064868
Prince needed to apply the effect to himself.
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>go second
>cant establish a boardstate + damage fast enough
>dshift ''''''''tempo''''''' vomits cards onto the board and theres no way to remove them
:)
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>>172063003
That what you get for endlessly stalling the game.
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>>172065195
Thanks anon.
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>>172063003
So is turn 9 3cd reduction
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I literally can not beat dragoncraft with fucking anything

Theyre dropping bahumut and prince of darnesses on me at t7 and I cant do a damn thing

Can this stupid overflow mechanic be tuned the fuck down already?
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>>172065514
What are you playing?
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>>172065163

Really?

Why don't tell me about these amazing tools that they have?
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>>172065514
No anon, you don't understand, having 10PP on turn 7 is actually a bad thing so dragon needs more buffs.
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>>172065573

Wards, heal and card draw.
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>>172065212
A big reaper is vastly more difficult to deal with than a couple 1/1 tokens.
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why is kawhy still in the game?
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>>172065163
yeah that's why nep is the second most used deck in masters with a 52%+ winrate and not daria am I right? can you show us your statistics anon?
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>>172065762
so dragon has something to banish next week
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>>172065551
I play aggro blood, storm haven, satan haven, otk roach and control forest

The only deck that I can beat good dragon players with is satan haven. Everything else just gets decimated no matter how close I am to winning
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Roost is an amazing card, shadowfag took 21 damage in one turn with zero evos.
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>>172065791

Daria is faster, which is why people are using it more. And because nep is used less so people haven't realize the problems it causes yet.
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>>172065864
Do not reply to him, newfag.
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>>172065690
Catacomb is a good curve play unlike Reaper, and sets up perfectly for reaper+2 drop or Orthrus turn 4. There is no reason whatsoever not to run both in aggro.

Also have fun dealing with those tokens in the same turn you dealt with the 1/1, your last turn's 2/2, and your first turn's 1/2, considering they get storm if you don't.
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>>172065667

>Wards

Only 2/3/7/8 has that.

Death's Breath with necro effect on curve isn't reliable.

>heal

Sure, count Khawy, whatever

>Card draw

Are you implying it has good card draw compared to Daria?
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>>172065879
It's actually a pretty interesting counter. It takes away the biggest benefit of Khawy because they'll be dropping Nep and killing him on an empty board, leaving no wards for the OTK.
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>>172065229
He does apply it to himself.
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>>172066193

Soul conversion is good, albeit not a broken as Fate's hand.
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>>172066045
yeah, daria is faster and does nep's job better, wouldn't that mean daria is stronger and not the other way around as you're claiming?

and what problems does it bring that daria already doesn't but much earlier?
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>>172064426
good responce

>>172064443
I wish I were
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>>172046248
Reminder that the tourney starts in 3 hours~
Check in starts 30 min before that. Tourney will be ran from the stream this time.

Also yurofags don't forget about the daylight saving time change.
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>>172065762
I just beat a nep deck with snowmen and so can you.
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>>172066290

Daria fucking draw 5

Rune has cantrip effects all over the place.
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DSHIFT PLS GO
REEEEEE
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>>172065514
>complaining about Dragon pre-TotG
You are just bad.
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>>172066406
Literally just ungabat or """""""""midrange""""""""""" sword.
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>>172066231
Actually I had another Genesis that got killed by Nep's Khawy, plus a Forte that got eaten on turn 7.

Still, his life total doesn't matter if you take it all in one turn, and Dragon doesn't run out of storm followers to throw.
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>>172066169
I don't see anyone else helping me

fuck off
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>>172066689
Who are you?
>>
>>172066368
>tfw I want to join but tired as fuck
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polyphonic roar/satan or zirnitra/forte in t2?
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>>172066308
>yeah, daria is faster and does nep's job better, wouldn't that mean daria is stronger and not the other way around as you're claiming?

>Daria is faster

Yes

>Does nep's job better

Not really. The minions nep pulls out are usually better quality than Daria's. Also you will still have a full hand after you play nep, poor rune will only have 2 or 3 cards left after they play the spellboosted minions.
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>>172065864
>storm haven

I don't play Storm Haven, but shouldn't it do well against Ramp?

I do play Sun, and the matchup is okay but harsh.
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>>172066965
>Also you will still have a full hand after you play nep, poor rune will only have 2 or 3 cards left after they play the spellboosted minions.
okay I'm done replying to you then
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>>172065864
>The only deck that I can beat good dragon players with is satan haven. Everything else just gets decimated no matter how close I am to winning
What rank are you? I feel like Aggro Blood could do fine with the right draw but there's those shitty scenarios where they draw their t2-3 healing, dragon warrior or early sahaluci comeback through ramp. Satan Haven is a little too slow to work against dragon consistently since they can Satan before you do and the healing/wards are easily circumnavigated by Odin or Baha.

You could post your decks or something if you want feedback. Either that or make a Seraph Elana.
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>>172066845
i-it's ok anon. sleep tight instead.
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>>172067010
He won with 1 defense left so I guess I just came up a bit short
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>not cucking daria with cute bunnies and making sword concede turn 3
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>>172066721
Fuck off back to your subreddit, newshit.
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>>172067081

You shouldn't even reply in the first place just so you know.
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>>172066965

>poor rune will only have 2 or 3 cards left

Oh man, you know what'd help them?

If they had a card that drew 5 cards for them, and then spellboosted them so it wasn't giving up a turn to recover your card count and you could still run an effective tempo game.
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>>172066368
Where do I check in?
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>>172046769
it's an older tech in aggro shadow
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>>172067234
please just use a fucking filter you autist
>>
>>172067218

I wonder what card is that?
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>>172067206
Is Luxhorn Sarissa good on sun or should I vial it?
>>
>>172067234
kill yourself you fucking waste of matter
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>>172067420
She's bad but cute. Keep.
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Ow....
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>>172067420
she's pretty good but i'd never run more than 2 copies of her.
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>>172067329
see >>172046248
Signup: http://challonge.com/de/tournaments/signup/OUk7td6jZT
Bracket (not final): http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT3
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>>172061687
Ok.
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>>172067090
I'll just make a new deck because i hate playing satan. its too damn slow
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>>172067705
Do not reply to him, newfag.
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heh..ehehehehe
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>>172067705
Yeah, it's way slower than storm or even regular seraph and elana. If you wish, I can show you the elana seraph deck I climbed to master with. It does well in this meta since it can seraph win vs a lot of control decks but has enough healing to make unga decks run out of steam.
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>>172067234
Keep doing the great job anon.
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why does a card exist that does 19 damage to your leader?
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>>172067894
>flame haven
you absolute madman
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>>172067894
it's good to see my wife(s) getting played
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>>172068006
Its worse than deal 20, or win the game
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mfw forest will still suck next expansion cause only baddies play it.
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>>172067894
??
How the fuck did you get flame and glass to survive a turn?
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TWO AND HALF HOURS TO GO
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>>172068006
Because it requires you to first play a 10 PP card and then get a 1/10 chance to draw it.
>>
>>172067894
>F&G

Woah, post dick.
>>
>>172061869
Sword > Rune > Blood > Dragon > Forest > Shadow > Haven
>>
>wake up
>ToG isn't out yet
>>
>>172068095
it literally is a card that wins the game.

the fact that this i win card exists in this game is proof that this game is fucking shit

like wow, are the creators of this game so fucking incompetent to create an i win card?
>>
>>172067907
Can you post it? Thanks.
>>
>>172068129
I have 3 copies of both.
He killed 2 of both, but he didn't have enough removal for the last pair and I had a snake priestess up
>>
>>172068072
so is she like
two minds inside her head or one
>>
I keep taking the BAD(big albert dick) in ranked
How do I stop
>>
>>172068243
Just let me finish this match and I'll SS it.
>>
>>172068220

Where's Nico?
>>
>>172068126
>leaving a follower up against sword

What the cuck?
>>
>>172068294

Stop being a cocksucker.
>>
>>172068243
Do not reply to him, newfag.
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>>172068294
As a Sword main most of my losses are to Elana Haven and Sun Satan, Aggro Blood (if they go first and don't brick), Ramp Dragon and Daria

So pick your poison and go nuts
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>>172067894
holy shit anon congrats
>>
>>172068126
this is some b rank play right here
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>>172068340
>shadcraft daily for 4 wins
>12 matches to win 4
>in unranked
>UNRANKED
>LOST 8 MATCHES
>THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE

Fuck this matchmaking bullshit
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>>172068243
This is it.
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>>172068126
Gob, fairy, roach and roach+evo would have killed you. What were you thinking? Did those 3 alberts logorate your mind? Luckily you are just in C rank where your opponets don't even read the instruction on how to pilot their own netdecks.
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>>172068126
mooooom!

why did you even bother to record an ordinary game where you had a good draw
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>people are actually complaining about nep even though it's dying in 5 days
>people are seriously comparing nep decks to albert and daria decks

AAHHAHAGAHAHAHA HOOOLY
I WISH I COULD GO BACK 3 MONTHS AND POST THIS SHIT ON SVG

AHAHAHAHAAAA HAHAHA

CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!
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>>172068732
Thanks bro
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>>172068823
Just like how dshift makes control so literally unplayable nobody uses the deck. Oh wait.
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Surprise lethal with Laelia in Arena. I'm a little disappointed that it doesn't have a trigger visual effect or something.
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>>172068165
What do you think are the top 3 craft all 8 of them will run other than Rune?
>>
>>172068726
oh, you are special, only entitled to win and if you lose you throw a childish tantrum on 4chan
>>
>>172068842
No problem. If you're having issues early on, you can also switch a cudgel or lion for a rabbit or healing angel for a more consistent t2-4. Having 5 of those evolution fodder guys just ends up in dead draws anyway so it's no big deal.
>>
>>172068782
I was thinking, Hm... look at this hand, I need to kill him asap before he tries aforementioned combo.
>>
Why is it in all card games you just have to netdeck and you can have an advantage? You can play bad but the quality of the deck alone can carry you. Why? At least in Moba your skills actually matter.
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>>172068823
autism
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>>172069062
You can stop shitposting now.
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>>172069064
So you're saying in MOBA no one ever told you what characters are good, what stuff you should buy, or what team composition works? You must be really good at MOBA.
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2 flames killed a 15 hp shadow in 2 turns.
Strong.
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>>172069064
why is it in all moba you can get a top tier hero and you can have an advantage?
>>
>>172068823

Go back to your cart shadowbab
>>
>>172068165
Whats this? But before you answer Im not sure itll be worth watching if its in moonspeak.
>>
dead general dead game
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>>172069158
Friendly reminder that we wouldn't have this problem if you would drop your name.

Oh wait, you know that already and this shitposting is exactly what you want. Delete yourself autismo
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new:
>>172069478
>>172069478
>>172069478
>>172069478
>>
since it is impossible to win in take 2 due to the strongest players in the game playing it and I don't want to spend money on this game, is it just best that I don't play it?

I don't see me being able to get a decent collection going with all these expansions coming out every few months. It won't be long before I reach a point in ranked where I will not be able to win a single game due to my shitty collection, so I won't even be able to grind the tiny bit of rewards the game does give you.
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>>172069406
It's only mostly dead.
>>
>>172061869
Sword > Rune > Blood > Dragon > Forest > Shadow > Haven

Expect to see more of Alberto Barbossa
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>>172069638
judge will carry haven to tier 2
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>>172067206
dick?
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Anyone got the list for the hyped face dragon deck?
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>>172069158
If you'd drop the name and pass flag you only use to shitpost deliberately on an anonymous imageboard there wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
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>>172069851
omg, don't tell me it's a new flavor of the week
>>
>>172068126
>hurr I played my minions on curve and won on turn 6
>lol stupid forest niggers am I right??
XD
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>>172069764
you dont need the 3rd moon, im just memeing because i opened a 3rd one the other day.
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>>172070256
thanks
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