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Previous:
>>172046102
http://www.strawpoll.me/12597951
http://www.strawpoll.me/12597946
>>172069252
>>172069271
Let's say you have a shitty draft in Moba and your opponent has the best heroes of that patch, however, your team are average 4.5k players with no the lowest MMR player still within 4k and the opponent are average 2k with the highest MMR player not higher than 2.5k, you still have a higher chance to win.
However, if you have a random pile of garbage cards in your deck and your opponent has a perfect netdeck, you are more likely to lose to him even though you are master and the opponent is in C/D rank.
>>172069629
Why Erika win all the polls?
Tournament in around 2 hours~
Signup: http://challonge.com/de/tournaments/signup/OUk7td6jZT
Bracket (not final): http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT3
Nep will never die, bunch of dragoncucks getting overzealous because they got one good card, you are trash and Nep will live forever.
Nep...
Why does /svg/ hate banish so much?
>>172069678
lets say you play a physical damage hero and only buy magic damage enhancing items, you will most likely lose, even if you are a much better player than your opponent
/ourguy/
>>172069678
The difference there is that you have a choice over your cards. In MOBA, they have to keep characters more balanced because players will often not be able to choose from all of them. In card games, you build your own deck from whatever cards you have. If you don't build the best possible deck because you either didn't figure it out yourself or didn't look elsewhere, that's on you. Of course if you don't have all the cards that's a problem, but that's what unranked and arena are for.
>>172069802
because most of them are shadow babs
>>172069802
because pedofags hate the hag and hagcraft has consistent banish cards
Why are people playing dshift in this aggro sword meta
>>172069976
to counter the counters of course!
>>172070040
>aggro sword
>counters
>>172068194
Here is my deck anon.
Its really just something I use for my haven dailies and for fun.
Mobile tabletop simulators are great and all, but I kind of want the actual cards in hand so its playable in person.
And cards are always nice collectables.
>>172069845
Let's say you mulligan away all the low cost cards and keep all the high cost cards in your hand, you will more likely brick and lose. If you buy shitty items and lose it is because you are retarded and can't make good decisions.
>>172069802
They want their evil deeds to go unpunished.
>>172070208
The game has randomness in it, there's nothing that can be done. But to say it's not competitive would be like saying poker isn't competitive.
>>172069802
No one cares about your banish. Havenfags are biggest shitposters.
>>172070451
*pedofags
>>172070538
So is Eris a child molester?
SHIT. I fell asleep and saw the tournament here started. Am I too late?
>>172069056
The fact is that he actually had lethal in hand and missed it, in a really retarded fashion too. You would have lost that game against anyone that used forest for more than 5 matches.
Against forest you should always keep on paper how many cards in the opponet hand are 0 and 1 costs and quickly estimate how stronk can his roach be and if added to the damage on the board it can kill you.
As a rule of thumb:
pp-1+(1*n. of 0 drops) for 1 roach.
2*pp-4+(2*n. of 0 drops) for 2 roaches.
3*pp-9+(2*n. of 0 drops) for 3 roaches.
If you keep wary of these numbers, you'll be safe from roach, ASSUMING they don't bounce their roaches back. In that webm if he managed to get the roach from gobu it could have done an average of 10 damage just from the roaches. So you should have killed that fairy knight.
>>172069802
Because it counters their morde?
>>172070616
still have 2 hours before it starts
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/OUk7td6jZT
>>172069729
>>172070616
Nvm I guess some people just got byes. I'm dum.
>>172069802
Because Nep players get countered by banish and /svg/ really loves playing Nep for some reason.
>>172070451
Fuck off swordnigger
>>172070895
maybe in your madeup world, /svg/ likes albertcraft
>>172070740
yeah some people will get byes depending on the number of entrants
>>172069802
I don't hate banish as a mechanic but I sure hate that particular card
It's just a better version of dragon warrior
I have 3 seraph in my deck.
I draw one only at turn 20+. (fucking unlucky).
Ok he draw prince of darkness, I have enough ward, and life to maybe survive until he have not enough card to draw.
Managed to survive prince of darkness for 4 turn.
Only lose to : drop life to 1, then deal 7 damages on enemy.
My life sucks.
>>172071103
>It's just a better version of dragon warrior
No.
>>172071103
How do you feel about his big brother?
>>172071106
>get bad draw rng and lose an online card game
>life sucks
>>172071442
It doesnt have very good stats for the cost so its fine desu
>>172071442
What's that behind him
>>172071442
>6 drop
has to fight for a spot against themis, its shite.
>>172071646
Why would it fight for a spot against Themis when you can run both and punish your opponent for playing too much and for playing too little?
>>172071646
Keep themis for turn 7, just before seraph.
>>172070208
randomness is a part of games that increases replayability. most mobas have some kind of crit or on hit chances or similar, so the game can't be "solved"
>go online
>ask for a deck that will get you wins no matter how bad your brain damage is
>copy deck code and paste it into deck builder
>go to FUCKING unranked and spam emotes every FUCKING turm like your some hot shit who totally wasn't one of those fags that cried 3 months ago because muh sword was killed by da yurius
>literally just shit all over the board like an animal and win on turn 5 every game
euthanize these stupid sword fucks already
>muh honest class
literally brain damaged
Is Luna ready to become a mother?
Homebrew Daria
>>172071898
maybe she is, but her body sure as hell isn't
>>172071442
Quite good hp.
got a banish
so in the end pretty good with guardian sun.
And cucks shadow even more.
>>172071878
t. aggro
>>172071878
What class is more honest than sword? You already know they are just going to play storm/rush every turn.
>>172069478
What's with japs and skirts?
I like sluts
I wanna be a slut too
>>172072046
>letting your women wear pants
its like you don't even want to stay the dominant gender
>>172072046
I think you mean what's with japs and lewd
>>172072065
I know what you mean anon, I want to look exactly like this.
>>172072046
They don't have jews.
>>172072030
>free shit printed on every card
>no class mechanic to activate it just free shit
>>172071878
Get good
>>172071898
It would give her something to obsess over other than her dead parents.
>>172072046
You can't look up pants, mang.
The japs would know all about that.
>>172072065
>>172072179
You can be MY sluts.
>>172072046
>not wanting women to wear things they can submissively pull up to present themselves
>>172072179
I wanna look exactly like Cerb too and have selfcest with you.
>Playing snowmen
>Haven keeps playing lion spirits, themis, and bahamut breaking 3 summon snow and 2 rimewind
>Kill two fucking bahamuts and basically lost since I only have one conjuring force
>Keep limping on like a retard to like turn 16 thanks to fiery embrace, dragonbond mage, grea, etc
>Finally have nothing left to give with only 7 cards left and no draw or snowboost
>He just kills my board and emotes at me while I emote at him as the cards remaining tick down
>Secrets of Erasmus is my last card
>Reaped
It was kind of nice despite getting bent over.
>>172072281
what happens if she miscarries?
>>172071007
That's funny because all /svg/ does is itch about sword and refuse to admit that Khawy is overloaded
What other good aggro decks are there besides aggro bats? Getting burnt out on blood
>>172072391
She's a necromancer, who cares?
>>172070718
Nep really needs to cost an evo fucking christ.
>>172072354
>Just conjuring force dshift it, bro
>>172071878
Ya.
Will be fun to cuck sword ungas with Test of strength + Attendats and hells unleachers in expansion.
>tfw no petrification
>>172072510
That's a big tiger.
Looking for help with my last private game game. 70955
>>172070970
Fuck off justnigger.
>>172071103
It does nothing if they aren't at 3 or less in addition to they can't then attack it with the priest to finish it off.
>>172072428
Nobody thinks khawy isn't overloaded
>>172069802
Because banish is available to ~2/7 classes (excluding Odin) and banish is ≡ destroy in almost all cases except shadow which gets unnecessarily cucked by banish effects.
>>172072428
yeah sure, even swordbabs complain about khawy while being the class with the easiest time against it
I have a question about tcg.
In YGO , this card is banned. Because apparently, drawing 2 cards is too op.
I didn't really understand, so I google searched.
It increase your chance to get the OP card which win the game, or complete exodia quickly.
Is it good strategy in shadowverse, to add a lot of draw card(s) cards in your deck. To increase your chance to have the card you really want?
>aggro bats is dead next turn
>needs 2 ward-bypassing damage and only has 2 cards
>vania + night horde
>>172072065
>>172072179
Why are you being so lewd?
>>172072428
>refuse to admit that Khawy is overloaded
I see people crying about Khawy all day every day what /svg/ are you browsing?
>starts playing Disco
>it's not even that bad and a lot of fun
Why do people make so much fun of it?
>>172072428
at least you have to get to 7 for khawy. and most of the rest of shadow is much worse than sword
>>172072769
>Is it good strategy in shadowverse, to add a lot of draw card(s) cards in your deck. To increase your chance to have the card you really want?
Mostly in control. It's not a good idea to just run a bunch of neutral draws. The thing is that YGO had no resource system like most card games so consistency and draw are important.
>>172072305
>>172072179
I'm going to FUCK both of you.
>>172072726
>3/7
>>172072305
I like the way you think.
>>172072769
>Is it good strategy in shadowverse, to add a lot of draw card(s) cards in your deck. To increase your chance to have the card you really want?
You just descrived dshift.
>>172072769
If we had a 0pp equivalent, then yea, it'd be autoinclude.
>>172072428
FUCK OFF SWORDNIGGER
>>172072779
get fucked sword cancee
>>172072769
It's banned because it's free card advantage since there are no costs for spells. No reason not to run it in every deck ever. You have fate's hand which can be reduced to 0 but card draw is actually fairly bad in this game.
>>172072769
the problem with pot of greed is that it is literally freee to play. card draw in shadowverse isnt, so you can die before your carddraw pays off
>>172072653
Why is always posing like that? Like she's just about to go in on an amazing pair of titties.
>>172072850
>>172072850
post dick
>>172072428
Hes bullshit.
But not as bullshit as entire sword.
Why did Cygames thing Sword needed fangblade slayer for even more face dmg and a freaking ward removal?
Playing against sword is literally.
>Put up weak ward, it dies to anything,
>put up strong ward, Fangblade or tsubaki rapes it.
so fun.
>>172071007
>maybe in your madeup world, /svg/ likes albertcraft
Supreme taste, /svg/ gentlemen.
>>172073002
nigger what
i'm playing midrange blood
>>172072782
>>172072907
Blame Cygames for making the biggest semen demon ever.Fenrir when?
>>172073078
limp wrist
>>172073002
Sword haters can't even read, pathetic.
>>172073078
cause she's a vampire
>Arriet
>Better effect than Gabriel
>Better stats than Gabriel
>Is a gold instead of a legendary
What did Cygames mean by this
>>172073489
Is that pose supposed to be menacing?
>>172072428
>albert and khawy on board
>kill him with khawy
>0 healing
WOW DUDE
>Game lasts more than 4 turns
>DoD, Saha, luci, baha, satan, odin
Really getting sick of neutralcraft
I miss when Daria and Roach were the evil boogeymen of SV and not sword. My honest class doesn't deserve this sort of treatment.
>>172073145
>>172073472
>Unironically watching 14yo tail
Just end yourself my man
>Asteroth's Reckoning gets bonus damage from JO
Why hasn't anyone told me this?
>>172073604
yes, are you scared?
>>172072850
Its really good if you get the ball rolling.
But you are pretty cucked as hell if you dont get dragomancer rites or get all dragoons in same hand.
So the problem is that its to inconcistent and hard to get up rites if you are against unga.
>>172073050
>You have fate's hand which can be reduced to 0 but card draw is actually fairly bad in this game.
Nigger have you ever played rune?
>>172073654
>Honest
>>172073078
Because she's a lewd little girl who actually is always looking to fondle a nice rack. Sinking her fangs into their neck is just an excuse.
>>172073654
Fuck off Swordnigger
>>172073654
At least your craft gets to be consistently viable.
>>172073604
its the classic dracula pose
3 more days for shadow funeral
>>172073740
Someone should post the forbidden combo.
>>172073742
No, but I would have a compelling urge to spank her and tweak her nipples.
>>172073806
Daria's card draw is only good because it spellboosts too. Playing a bunch of golems and Craig/Clarke with no boosting is nothing to write home about.
>>172073931
Why do you keep posting this comic?
>>172073909
>Dumpster tier in DE, going to be dumpster tier again in ToG
>People are just going to keep crying about Khawy
>>172073654
>Honest
>one of the biggest cancer decks in both standard and DE
>>172074017
why not?
>>172073740
If you read the cards it literally tells you
>>172074141
What does that comic mean?
>>172073969
Nah it boosts off runes, insights, leviballs and even fucking itself.
When you're starting to run out of cards and Daria isn't there, that saves your ass.
>>172074053
At least you're not haven.
>>172073109
This is how it looks like currently. I am still testing it and making changes, but it's working very well for a deck that has 35% winrate accordng to Shadowlog.
Notes:
The most recent change was dropping 3 Oracles for 2 Trail of Light and a third Khaiza, since I found myself not having enough cards for Dragoon way too often, while also not making enough use of the ramp to justify it.
That being said, I seem to have too many 3 drops right now, but I still haven't had problems with that, though dropping a Goblin Mage would probably be a good idea.
Wildfang has won me a few games when combo'd with an Emissary'd Dragoon, or with multiple discard effects in general. Unica should probably be a better option against aggro.
Siegfried is ridiculous. I forgot how good that card was after so much time without playing Face.
>>172074053
I'm going to laugh so hard once khawy eats heavenly aegis' like popcorn on day 1
edgecraft
which one is it? beware, there is one correct answer
>>172074017
it's cute fuck off
>>172073931
>>172074141
Can you explain it?
I don't understand the joke?
Necroelementist is a pretty underrated aggro tech, considering literally everyone is playing the faggot angel.
Arriet soothes my dick
>>172074275
sword, cause almost all of their cards have edged weapons
>>172074175
It means that you should kill yourself.
>>172074275
Blood, duh.
>>172074239
Forgot the image.
>>172074312
Forte is flat like luna so she instinctively saw her as her mother
>Cygames is giving this horseshit an anime before SV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyY8Tzya8k
>>172074432
I don't get it.
>>172074456
Shadowverse doesn't deserve an anime since it has Rune in the game.
>>172074456
Looks more interesting than SV to be honest with you fampai.
>>172072628
u u u u
>>172074456
Best girl.
>>172074449
is forte's cake ready to be eaten by luna
>>172074456
If there's going to be an SV anime I hope to god it doesn't follow the story mode. It's dogshit.
>>172074456
they would make the slut elf the mc of an SV anime when it should be Rowen, so I'd rather have horses
>>172074456
Granblue got an anime. Isn't Shadowverse sharing the universe with GBF? So technically we did have an anime.
>>172074674
Then what story do you want it to follow? There is already a RoB anime.
>>172074456
SV needs more fucking story chapters before we can get anything close to an anime.
>>172074598
somebody punched her to the nose and broke it
>>172074728
>Isn't Shadowverse sharing the universe with GBF?
God no, SV shares universe with the superior Rage of Bahamut
Cow lovers can fuck off
>>172074728
You mean Bahamut.
>>172074794
She looks like the delinquent type so I'm sure she's been in a fight or two.
>>172073707
My supreme taste > your shit taste, my woman.
sword is honest
>>172074728
>Isn't Shadowverse sharing the universe with GBF?
No SV is its own world.
>>172074812
There's nothing wrong with cows just so long as you don't over inflate their worth.
>>172074781
I dunno, I prefer no anime to be honest.
>>172074785
horses aren't even released yet though... also what store chapters an idolshit game can even have
also we can actually get collaboration with it, i already want muh horse jeanne sleeves
>>172073707
>watching 14yo tail
show the tail!
>>172074812
>>172074826
>>172074945
We have Forte they have Forte, we have Vania they have Vania.
Bahamut, GBF and SV shares a lot of characters. An anime of one of these would be an anime for all of these.
>>172073654
I feel you, we don't deserve such treatment.
>>172074794
If I punch Vampy's nose and give her a nosebleed, would she just thank me?
>>172074904
It's time to go back to plebbit.
>>172075109
RoB Forte > GBF """""Forte""""""
>>172075209
vampires don't bleed. On the plus side it means shes good to go all month
>>172075209
i think she would bite you
>>172075214
Then go back, it's not like we need you here.
>>172075109
>they have bahamut thus they're all the same
Are you guys ready for the card which will save dragon? Honestly much better then lightning blast as it can be used as both a threat and an answer.
>>172073740
>>172075357
In the same universe*
>>172075392
Pretty underrated card
>>172073909
To be fair, sword was in a really awkward position until pretty recently. Control Sword is really lacking, banner isn't fast enough anymore, and the standard otohime midrange deck is completely useless now.
I'm not sure why this new deck came out of nowhere, but I assume it had a lot to do with the recent nerfs.
>>172074725
>Anime about the backstory about Rowen before the game.
I would watch it.
>>172074242
I think Aegis is immune to last word effects as well. The card is pretty confusing though, we'll see.
>>172073931
This comic doesn't make sense, Luna is taller than Forte
>>172075340
Cute. Then I'll just bite back.
>>172075331
I learn something new everyday,
>>172075341
>Avatarposting
>liking shit anime
>somehow thinking these aren't traits of a filthy redditor
okay let me clarify.
YOU have to go back.
>>172075590
You can't Khawy Aegis, correct.
>>172075109
They are not in the same universe. GBF has characters with same name and appearance as the ones that exist in RoB, but they are not the same characters.
Fuck, just look at RoB Monika and GBF Monika. One of them is perfect, the other is a shitty cow.
is dark general worth playing in aggro blood or not?
I hope the new expansion comes out before this cancer meta makes me kill myself.
>>172075392
Date Masamune looks kinda shitty in comparison, and this is just a bronze card.
>>172075392
Its a really nice card since it got bane and is only 2pp. Makes it really easy to combo with Forte or a cost reduced Genesis to slap face and remove their ward.
In storm ramp I would probably run this over Lightning since its cheaper and you want to burn down your opponent not control them.
>>172075813
only problem i see with it is beeing a 3 drop that dies to pretty much every 2 drop
>>172075767
Their design is the same though.
>>172075838
oh it was 3pp. well its still a good card.
>>172075951
But their are not the same characters and they are not in the same universe.
>>172075948
True, but it can at least sustain 1-attack minions unlike Ruthless Assassin.
>>172075879
Avatarfagging is against the rules.
>>172075807
It gets more cancerous as each xpak ratchets the bar higher.
does ramp dragon need 3x bahamut?
>>172076204
Aggro cucks are supposed to get rekt this expansion so it's all good.
>>172076256
2x at least
>>172076107
So how does it actually work? Why are there similar characters across the world?
Also is Shadowverse closer to Bahamut or GBF or is it just another universe?
>shadowverse
>SHADOW
>people complain about Shadowcraft
T S U K K O M E
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>>172076308
You say that, but it's never strictly aggro decks that are cancer.
It's usually the control/combo/midrange shit that ruins the game.
>>172076331
Multiverse theory.
>>172076256
I've been running 2 because I have 2 and there's been some times where i've REALLY needed Bahamut and haven't had one. Can't help but to think a 3rd would help but it likely would've bricked me instead.
>>172076308
Le dshift face
>>172076308
You really don't know that yet. It's just a possibility.
that neutral 2/3 ward is going to impact the game more than what people expect.
>>172076375
>shadowverse
>shadow isnt and will never be t1
I still dont get it
>>172074515
Daria MC anime incoming.
>>172076545
No it isn't.
>>172076331
Not sure if there's much thought into it. Basically Shadowverse is Cygames all-stars where they just make cards of any popular character they got.
It's also easier for them, seeing as a lot of the art is taken from the Bahamut card game.
>>172076331
>So how does it actually work? Why are there similar characters across the world?
They are copy-pasted from RoB's universe into GBF's universe. How can that be so hard to understand?
>Also is Shadowverse closer to Bahamut or GBF or is it just another universe?
The cards are all from Rage of Bahamut, but the leaders and the story mode are its own thing and didn't show to have any relation to any other franchise.
>>172076545
There was already a shitstorm when it was previewed.
>>172076405
People give aggro a bad rap when it's a stopcap on degenerate combos and slow decks that don't do anything.
>mfw no one remembers that MTG has a deck that's nothing but crimson sorceries
>>172076545
>muh JO
>>172076405
>You say that, but it's never strictly aggro decks that are cancer.
It's ONLY aggro decks that are cancer. Check out the current tierlist.
>>172076465
D-shift just needs some cards that fuck with spells and such.
>>172076517
I hope, otherwise that will be my last expansion. I'm not getting too invested in something that will just be another Hearthstone.
>>172069478
>>172069728I'll use the old tripcode since i forgot the other one.
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>>172076606
>>172076689
It's going to slow aggro down to where you can beat them
>>172076619
>>172076628
Why does it sound like cygames is just milking their characters without much consideration into the lores and shadowverse is just another cash grab?
>>172076717
>I'm not getting too invested in something that will just be another Hearthstone.
It won't be a t4-5 killfest if that's what you mean. Most games will continue to last 5-8 turns from the looks of it though since there's so many t8-10 soft and straight up wincons.
>>172076465
How exactly is D-shift going to steamroll all these control decks when all of them are getting shit ton of taunts and heals? I think control forest will be especially hard for them.
Seraph might be a better option since you don't need to hit face ever.
>>172076689
You are seriously a retard if you think Grimnir's enhance is of any relevance.
>>172076824
>without much consideration into the lores
Albert is worthy of his status as the leader of the Sky Knights ingame. Easily one of the top 10 cards in the game.
>>172076331
If you need a guess for lore, different games are different eras separated by bahamut waking up and destroying everything.
RoB is probably the first, then GBF, which makes SV either the prologue, if we guess that bahamut was summoned by Morning Star as a final boss, or a midquel/sequel
>>172076663
Lightning bolt is a fun cheesy way to win, but remember red tend to run out of steam faster than anything if you bolt to the face while ignoring creatures.
Unlike SV, no board slot restriction make it easier to swarm a red cheese deck whereas LE OLD MAN can rip apart cheap creatures while making his other spells and creature cheaper. Fucking spellboost mechanic is broken as fuck.
>>172076717
Those are """"midrange"""" decks.
They don't run a risk of fizzling out at t6.
>>172076405
Cancer is whatever is in tier one. It doesn't matter what kind of deck it is, people are going to complain.
>>172076742
>It's going to slow aggro down to where you can beat them
Unga bats, aggro shadow and even storm dragon will still function to similar capacity as they do.
>>172076824
>without much consideration into the lores
What do you mean by this?
>>172076963
I assume that there is no mention of morning star in either RoB or GBF?
SLAY THE BIRD DEVIL
REVENGE FOR THE BANISHCAUST
>>172077027
Cancer is what you beat me with.
>been literally trying to do my dailies for an hour with non-cancer decks
>have to dust of my Daria deck to actually finish them
I fucking hate this game.
>>172076869
Ward doesn't stop dshift, neither does healing. If that was true control blood and sunhaven would win against them, but they don't. Only board flood or storm fellowers like maelstrom serpent can win against dshift.
>>172076875
What is sarcasm
>>172077098
Honestly, their lore is quite expansive, so I have no idea.
But Zeus and Prince sacrifice themselves in Bahamut Genesis anime, while they are alive in SV.
>>172077121
bird just wants to go face, he's not responsible.
>>172077135
>have to dust of my Daria deck to actually finish them
Uncle anon why?
>>172077328
Because most control decks are shit now and the moment I play them I run into 3 Seraphs in a row.
>>172077053
Weak connection between the franchises even though they share a lot of the same characters.
>>172077250
Maybe they are brought back by the morning star?
>>172077147
>Only board flood or storm fellowers like maelstrom serpent can win against dshift.
Actually, I once stumbled upon a Sun Guardian/Spellblock/Ward deck while playing Dshift that actually beat me. It was probably bad against everything else, though.
>>172076969
Yeah, but that's only because in formats with lightning bolt, decks have to actually be built around the fact that you can be taking 3+ damage with no way to prevent it every single turn unless you're threatening enough.
The problem is that because SV is so creature-focused, but no one except wards can block, you're going to get raped by Albert.
>>172077430
Seems like a waste of cards.
>>172076465
This is perfectly lewd. Is this pokemon?
>>172076829
>games lasting 5-8 turns is good
Jesus christ, do people really consider 5 turns a "long" game?
Hey cunnyverse players, new guy here with questions
1. is there a "cards played by the opponent last turn" history or something?
2. is that vampy girl an alternative leader for bloodcraft or where is she?
>>172076545
we accepted that aggro is dead long ago
>>172077621
Don't bother playing the game.
It's a pile of shit.
>>172077596
Watch out anon, ot they are going to call you a fedora tipper for wantin longer games!
>>172077596
Cygames is hell bent on making games that short and streamlined. They don't want games to be 10+ turns long at all.
>>172077621
The scroll thing in the middle left
Yeah, shop, leader packs
I need some smug Neps, help me /svg/.
>>172077621
>is there a "cards played by the opponent last turn" history or something?
Yeah, check the little scroll drawing thing on the left during a match.
>is that vampy girl an alternative leader for bloodcraft or where is she?
Alt leader yeah. You can buy them with rupies or crystals.
Is this game gaining popularity and players still?
Feels like I see more and more people knowing about it
>>172077596
yes it is
i have no fun in 10+ turns slugfests when you drop stall cards on curve
How much time until tournament?
>>172077832
No, shadowcraft can only get ropes.
>>172076829
>It won't be a t4-5 killfest if that's what you mean.
That fucking sucks.
>>172077727
>Wanting to be stuck in a 40 minute game playing removal/heals every turn for 20+ turns
Controlcucks are mentally ill
>>172077863
I like this meme where cards that interact with each other and don't instantly end the game are "stall" cards
This is what a real stall card looks like
>>172077505
Well if you are just playing mono red, there's no way of preventing bolt to the face other than more bolt to the face against opposing player.
Other colors at least have counters,redirection, protection, prevention and life gain.
I'm amazed SV hasn't printed a Serra Avatar clone yet for fucking Haven.
>>172077882
13 minutes until check-in
>>172078007
>This is what a real stall card looks like
Psh, nothin' personal kid.
>>172077459
No, I mean, if SV didn't have bahamut, initially, then its a prequel, maybe, because Zeus and Prince are alive.
Also, all games have alchemy, but only RoB has its origins story.
>>172078007
literally black mask
>>172077994
Why not just delete all cards over 6 mana, then? Then you can have the maximum amount of fun ramming face while the other guy rams face with none of those "mentally ill control cucks" ruining your fun. Mirror aggro as far as the eye can see! It'll be really fun, right?
DING DONG MOTHERFUCKER
>>172078007
>reminding me of the best ccg ever made
why remind me anon?
>>172078007
you know not everybody likes to play a deck that shits wards, removals and then drops your wincon, it's pretty boring, takes way more time and makes laddering a huge chore
midrange will be alive though but i like aggro more
>>172078050
Serra-related cards are shit, I want a laboratory maniac clone.
>>172078007
That craft had some op card like that chinese dragon, don't remember the name. Literally impossible to win.
>>172078128
Does that apply to new things entering play? Still doesn't affect spell damage.
>>172078154
Yeah, and their habit of giving out super important tools to one craft is really going to make this game fucking annoying.
>>172078242
>>172077832
>>172078156
Stop talking about guys ramming it into each other's faces.
>>172078242
Brutal
>>172077994
I just want some games to last to turn 11 or 12. Control decks in this game aren't really like the grindy ones from others anyway. They actually have win-conditions.
>>172078209
It's not bad but far from best. Well, at least you could have infinite number of creatures on board and special command units, good times. Undeads were lovely.
>>172078142
Also, Daria proved that other dimensions are a thing, And everyone who was really annoyed by her teleporting anywhere on a whim got really happy that she left her own dimension mostly alone
>>172078289
so in your opinion every tool should be released in a DoD-like style? why even have classes then?
>>172078249
>makes laddering a huge chore
That's easily fixed with a real ELO system. The game that card was from had ELO, and the result was that the top ranks had huge variety in games played. Some people had few games played but a 90% winrate, some people near the top were Shadowverse-style shitters who had tons of games played but only 55-60% winrate.
If you have an ELO system and you win most games, you don't have to play many games at all.
Don't you guys feel like the player going second has a bit too much of an advantage?
>>172078349
why not?
itshot
>>172078289
It's an enchantment, so yeah, it affects everything while it remains in play.
>Still doesn't affect spell damage.
No but his best friend does. Also Leyline of sanctity.
>>172078481
Every non-aggro deck has a better winrate going second, so yes.
>>172078481
Yea and it's mostly because they have 1 more card, not 1 more evolve.
>>172078470
no it is not
i don't want to play a slugfest no matter fucking what
>>172078142
Or maybe in SV they are only using the avatar of the original character, which is similar to hearthstone where the characters are just an imitation and not the original warcraft characters.
>>172078481
Considering evolves are best used to go face in this meta, they're not getting enough of an advantage.
>>172078050
After googling Serra Avatar, I conclude that it would be:
>turn X do nothing, dies to dance of death
Unless they give it storm, then great card.
>>172078458
Nah, but you should provide some parity. You can implement the same broad sort of affect in different ways that are interesting and provide different options for different crafts. We have healing in different manners for different crafts, would you argue that we should remove all healing cards from other crafts because only Haven is supposed to have it?
>>172078481
Yes but it's not a huge deal in constructed.
Certain decks like aggro prefer going first and in many control mirrors like Nep and Seraph the player going first has an advantage.
>>172078249
Some like board interaction though and making plays that don't have an immediate board effect, but allow to do complex plays in the future. You know, winning by playing better.
>>172078520
No it's not, that's gay. STOP
I just wish the starting hand size were 4. Why is it 3? It's impossible to plan anything other than "drop shit on curve" in the earlygame with 12 2-drops in every deck when you get 3 goddamn cards in hand at the start.
>>172074456
>Published on 24 Mar 2017
W-wait! That's not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYrVKLBhitE
It's finally happening for real!? Wonderful!
>>172078481
Depends on the deck. Daria has some crazy winrates going second because of Levi shenanigans, but I prefer to go first with aggro decks.
>>172078809
They should remove the extra card from the second player and allow both players to mulligan all 4 cards they get at the start.
>>172078631
Maybe. With how glacial SV story is, we might never know.
But,
>DE released after character went to shadowverse
>RoB released with a church theme and Eildolon that has a dragon egg
>ToG has a free for a all apocalyptic battle
>>172078481
No. The 3rd evo will never make up for complete early game control
>>172078842
The problem is that it's literally only aggro decks. Pretty much every other deck prefers to go second, unless in very specific match ups like Seraph mirror.
>>172077994
Joke's on you, watching an aggro cuck with an empty hand while you have nearly full HP is one ot the most satisfying things in this game.
Too bad it's not possible in the current expansion.
>>172078835
but they posted that vid several days ago already, i don't see how it's news
>>172078964
>Tfw next expansion will be GBF themed
>>172078964
Will they ever catch up with the storyline? Wasn't every set supposed to have new missions?
>>172078249
you know not everybody likes to play a deck that shits 1-drops, storms and hit face all day, it's pretty boring,
>>172078595
Then, can I recommend HS's pirate deck? Games end with turn 3 lethals, instead of turn 5 in SV
>>172078694
well, you're right, but cygames is doing just that with stuff like minthe and blood moon (though the latter is vastly superior no matter how you look at it) albeit slowly
they don't have to, say, release a black mask for every craft in ToG right away
>>172078481
Only if you're a shitter deck that doesn't do anything to set the tempo given by going first.
Control the game, control their life
>Still no new leaders
>Still no leaders from Rage of Bahamut anime
They'll do something for promotion when the anime S2 airs, right?
>>172078809
4 cards would make aggro OP.
>>172079053
>Too bad it's not possible in the current expansion.
Elana Seraph can do it.
>>172079062
Probably saw that it wasn't profitable enough,
>>172078972
t. never played this game
>>172079053
and will not be possible in the next when you die to midrange and nobody plays aggro
>>172079086
>turn 3 lethals
Literally how?
>>172079225
Yeah I guess that's a good point. Making new cards results in people buying packs, it makes sense that all they would do is that.
>>172078739
One day....
>>172079053
Soon, Aniki, soon.
>>172079225
You can't be too profitable when you are constantly giving up free shits and there is no need for people to actually buy packs.
Is anyone actually playing forrest to climb at the moment ?
I can't climb with Tempo or Bolt
maybe it's because of all the unga swords in AA thou
>>172079052
That's true, but at least right now there's a lot of aggro so it kinda evens out.There are much worse card games out there when it comes to this type of balance.
It's worse in Take-Two where going first has never an advantage.
>>172079086
Pirate warrior has shifted away from it's pre-nerf hyper aggressive roots. The build most commonly run now is closer to a midrange deck that ends games on T6-8.
>>172079297
He's exaggerating, the earliest lethal pirate had was T4 and it required your opponent to basically goldfish and killthemselves with lifetap.
>>172079130
Only aggro benefits from it. Even midrange decks do better going second. What you say makes no sense at all.
How 2 change voices to JP but keep all the rest in English?
>people play this garbage competitively
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S7U0VQc6p0
>>172079369
Dragon won't be control though
Cygames is pushing everyone into combo-ish decks that want to end games by 7-8, only Haven is going to be relegated into longer games
Dragon is gonna want to ramp to Ouro while fielding a decent board, if they ever let Ouro live you win
A lot of people just won't be able to handle an early Ouro
>>172079373
They should be doing fine though, with each xpak, newbies are further pressured into whaling. And desu, the prebuilts were a good move.
>>172079235
Now post that in english
>>172079408
Yeah, I agree that it's much better than most other card games, but they could still make some adjustments to even the winrates out. I think taking away the extra card the second player gets would be a good start.
>>172079297
Well
Turn 1 1 mana 3/2 that summons a 1/1 and a 1/1 with storm
Turn 2 pirates that are buffed when you equip a weapon
Turn 3 weapon and another 1 drop
Add more pirates with storm and a weapon damage buff for lethal.
>>172079429
Well, if you died with three mana, it seemed like a turn 3 to you.
>>172079504
There is money in it so why not?
>>172076729
>>172069478
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>>172079369
Give me a quick rundown on this guy.
Why will he dominate this next expansion?
>>172079235
>most decks have around 5% difference between going first and second
doesn't seem terribly bad to me
>>172079130
>go first
>get nothing to play in hand because rng
>enemy sets the tempo anyway
Retard
>>172079235
>majority only 5% less or over from 50% except for some extremes
pretty good for a card game honestly
Anyone mind sharing a midrange blood list? I'm tired of unga bunga bats
>>172079581
>>172079053
You might think that it's possible with decks like Seraph, but then you just get cucked by Dshift. Rock paper scissors sure is a fun game.
>>172079606
oh, check in at http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT3
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>>172079502
check in the paste bin dum dum
>>172079707
wait till WoG
>what kind of hand do you want famalan?
JUST!
>>172079527
Nigger I want to take you on a magic carpet ride called
t4 8/8 lightning behemoth
t5 8/8 lightning behemoth
t6 7/7 wyvern cavalier
t7 4/7 skull dragon, 6/5 leviathan
t8 8/8 inferno dragon, 2/2 shapeshift
You know what never ever worked? That. The only thing leviathan changes is that you aren't killing your hand to do nothing out into baha-odin-satan-lightning blast land
>>172079575
I am aware that they are making profit, what I want to say is that SV will never be as profitable as GBF or FGO.
>>172079659
>Build like shit
>Mulligan like shit
>Have shit
>Play like shit
>Cry like shit
Shhhhhh. Stop struggling and go to sleep.
>>172079790
JUST give me a guaranteed win?
>>172079235
Seems to be a class issue moreso than anything. Rune, Sword, and Forest drop a lot more than the other classes when going 1st.
>>172079790
Easy. You practically alreadydied on turn 5.
I just started playing this and holy shit the translation sucks dick, I'm not even a native japanese speaker and I can notice the errors in it.
>>172079814
They won't be as profitable as FGO because FGO has a cultivated fanbase of retards that will eat up whatever Nasu puts down.
GBF, the new Producer gets more retarded by the day.
>>172079814
Actually, I think its more profitable than GBF since it doesn't have the gacha scandal stigma.
And honestly, I doubt anything can be as profitable as FGO. Better is another matter though
>>172079790
inb4 topdecked insight and goes on to win
>>172079790
>Playing Dshift
Just rope yourself in your room.
>>172080031
>more profitable than GBF
Mobile game whales are too dumb to care about gatcha scam rates.
>>172079995
yeah, they translated rape of the raven as blackened scripture
>>172079814
FGO is the second most profitable mobile game in the entire world, so being less profitable than it isn't saying much
>>172079956
>Rune
Levi
>Sword
Albert
>Forest
Elven Princess Mage in general and Elven Princess Mage->Tia
It's Cygames's fault for making those classes so reliant on those cards.
>>172080073
What's your deck fampai?
>>172079801
If those bodies came attached to a demonic strike they would have been a lot more interesting
I don't think Ouro is crazy or anything but they are clearly trying to speed dragon's gameplan up with cards like Ouro and Sibyl and even Arriet (she turns any high attack creature into possible lethal without needing some crazy storm creature)
>>172079589
>Turn 1 1 mana 3/2 that summons a 1/1 and a 1/1 with storm
>Turn 2 pirates that are buffed when you equip a weapon
The 1mana 3/2 IS the pirate that gets buffed when you equipped a weapon, and you can't run three of them in your deck if it wasn't already obvious you never actually played the game.
The perfect curve assuming your opponent was a fish looked like this.
T1 STB pulls patches, hit for 1, 29 life remaining.
T2. Equip axe, swing for 3, hit for 4, 22 life remaining.
T3 bloodsail corsair into 2 dread corsairs, swing for 4, hit for 4, 14 life remaining.
T4 Lethal on board.
Yes, games were quick but this almost never happened. Usually it lasted until ~T6 at which point any highlander deck had about a 50% chance of drawing Reno jackson by then. Hence why games were so "coinflippy".
>>172079954
>Guaranteed win without a single card to spellboost with
>>172079987
Funnily enough no, surrender win by t8.
Couldn't even spellboost the fuckers under 10.
>>172077832
Nep is shit.
If Dragon ends up being popular next expansion, I hope to god it's off the death of the SahaLuci play style. Mirrors with this deck are so boring, it's just Ramp up and stall until somebody draws Satan since everything you throw at each other just gets removed instantly by Bahamuts, Odins, Masamune or whatever.
>>172080247
>dirt
Damn, I was sure it'd be Daria.
>>172080247
>"brick"
>still win
Only with dshift would this happen
>>172080221
they also try to make decks more expensive adding must have leggos left and right
>>172080176
>>172080025
I just looked at the FGO wikipedia article. Looks interesting, do people give them money for cosmetics/pvp power or is it some kind of stamina system?
>>172080372
It will now become Ouroboros spam until someone dies to the burn.
>>172080152
Now I'm curious how much money GBF makes
Wouldn't surprise me if it's more than SV, but SV isn't doing bad, it's only behind Hearthstone and that was with launching halfway into the year
>daily: win 1 match as dragoncraft
>6 losses in a row and counting
>including one 20 minute match where I decked out
Fuck this shitty ass craft
get me OUT
>>172080221
Will they?
Will they reaaally?
Fast decks don't care and slow decks heal far better
>>172080372
It's going to swell to probably 3rd most played. Sahaluci will only get stronger by the way.
>>172080392
They also make legos silver like khawy and lightning blast to help the little guy
>>172080031
>gacha scandal stigma.
You mean a case where a retarded streamer who spent too much and to get a rare drop and sparked an outrage?
Did cygames lied about the drop rate or is he just extremely unlucky?
>>172080426
It's a mobage.
You roll for Craft Essence (basically equipment) and characters.
If you're not into Fate then don't bother.
>>172080372
>>172080457
Yeah I was going to say... Ouro spam will probably feel a lot more annoying to play than SahaLuci
>>172080392
I played Hearthstone, so the "money-grubbing" aspect of SV doesn't even exist to my perspective, I haven't spent a cent and have never felt a need to
>>172069629
is there futa shadowverse art yet
>>172080426
For a chance to roll a character you want, since all characters are based on mythical heroes and such.
>>172080247
>Do nothing all match
>Opponent loses their will to live anyway because they assume the bullshit is coming
Good card design Cygames.
>>172080485
>not doing dragoncraft dailies with JO exclusively
Why not get gold while having a little fun as well?
>>172079931
Le ebin shitpost
>>172080426
You pay for character gachas and consumables the same as any mobage.
The entire genre is shit, I would advise you to stay away.
>>172080391
>against memerune
Nah.
I'm so excited for next week.
>>172080510
>Fast decks don't care and slow decks heal far better
I can't think of any healing that really deals well with Arriet
The main downside will be aggro, but I just don't see dragon finding traditional control (i.e sit there and do nothing until satan) more effective than a tempo based version of ramp that explodes around 7
>>172080176
>FGO is the second most profitable mobile game
What is the first?
>>172080031
People are incentivized to be whales more in GBF than SV, so I assume that GBF would earn more for cygames no matter how crappy the game becomes.
>>172080531
Cygames is the reason why gacha "games" have to tell you the actual rate of drops, by law.
>>172080531
Well, that caused creation of a gambling law, I doubt it wasn't true
>>172079746
>>172079606
10 Minutes left to check in!
Better be quick anon!
>youmu
>katari
>colonelcirno
>kinz
>>172080635
is it that game that has a character based on hans christian andersen, who heroically died falling from his bed?
>>172080783
>What is the first?
Clash battle royale
>>172080460
Mobage Monthly Sales
Fate/go 7.7 billion yen
Monster strike 5.1 billion yen
Shironeko 2.9 billion yen
Puzzle and dragons 2 billion yen
Shadowverse 1.1 billion yen
Granblue 550 million yen
Deresute 150 million yen
LLSIF 120 million yen
BGHS 50million yen
>>172080935
So it IS shitting on GBF?
It's interesting, from a certain perspective GBF seems to have a lot more production being put into it
>>172080935
dereslute...
btw where is horse mususme
>>172080739
>Atomeme might end up as the best shadow deck because of all the banish in TotG
I don't know how to feel about this
>>172080820
can i still join this or is it too late
>>172080935
I'm worried we might be making too much. I don't want them going rouge on us.
>>172080485
Post deck, legos+golds. You should be able to disconewt otk or run a budget ramp or face list to win.
>>172080762
It doesn't survive. It's too frail and there's too much from hand. Nothing really survives barring a wide seacraft board and that doesn't have the reach for arriet to sacrifice reloading the board for her. All it really has going for it is dying to khawy and being hand neutral.
>>172081031
1 intern and an artist can do that "production"
>>172080620
Some, but maybe it's just not that popular on pixiv.
For example,
59592699
>>172081152
>>172081152
Aggro will always remain the most consistent deck simply because aggro just doesn't give a fuck about matchups half the time.
>tfw 2.5k points away from masters but too lazy to ladder
>>172080935
Where did you get the figure?
Also how does anyone find FGO fun?
>>172080935
>pad doing better than gbf
>their general is more dead than /gbfg/
how ?
>>172077459
Mate, RoB charas in GBF are pure fanservice, the SV universe has nothing to do with RoB or GBF and is its own thing besides the fact that you use cards based on the RoB universe to fight, though Arisa and Isabelle have RoB cards so they might be playable one day but that's about as far as it goes. And while I'm at it the Bahamut anime is also its own thing borrowing characters from the RoB card game, the Favaro and Kaisar card is pure collab stuff and nothing else.
>>172081157
gotta be quick
http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT3
nung na nung!
>>172081309
>nip only
I wonder
>>172081152
It's gonna be some real tight shit with prince catacomb. We might get some cool interactions with prince catacomb, malicious ghost, frozen mammoth and the other bits.
>>172080935
>SIF this ded
Oh how the mighty has fallen. How can flopfags ever recover?
>>172081254
aggro is dead, baby, aggro is dead
>>172081296
It was a tweet
https://twitter.com/nasupanda/status/843297098392985602
It has since been deleted but iirc the figures were legit.
>>172080935
>more sales than gbf
Is that a good or a bad thing?
>>172081254
A big problem is the rating system too
You want short games to be on top of the ladder, so it's just a bunch of aggro
You can find some D Shift guys up there too, but D Shift doesn't have control-long games either
>>172081195
>going rogue on us
You mean like releasing a card that's blatantly bad for the game but it's "okay" because it makes them money? Then ignoring the players when they say said card is warping the card, and release a "ENJOY shadowverse" ad highlighting it.
>>172081296
>Also how does anyone find FGO fun?
If you like Fate, try it.
If you don't, don't bother.
>>172081195
There's always the naive hope that maybe Cygames execs will consider that being generous is paying off more than the asshole approach.
>>172081576
For us it's good, the more SV contributes to cygames' bottom line the more they should care about making people not want to quit this game.
>>172079369
Wow a 10 pp AoE that's only meaningful against Shadow and Haven ie two of the lesser played classes in the game without putting a body on the board that's really going to serve you well.
>>172081576
Good thing. It means the development will focus more on SV. GBF will become more crappy and maybe dies for all I care.
>>172081309
I dropped that game and the general in part due to the rampant cuckposting that goes on there. A game like that is no fun to play by yourself.
Tourney starts NOW.
Whoever isn't checked in is eliminated, sorry!
The rest will be done in-stream.
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>katari
>kinz
>>172081595
I don't think anything actually changed
They were always a shitty company, witness what they did with RoB
People just assumed they were suddenly /ourguys/ because the original release of SV wasn't as cancerous as older card games
>>172081595
God I hate that Daria is so degenerate because her art is so cute and I have two copies of her.
Join us
>>172081624
I like Fate but the game has so many restriction if you don't pay up, hence very unfun.
>>172081750
Isn't puzzle and dragons just a glorified bejeweled? Never tried it, just looked at a few image of it.
>>172081497
no girl has ever surpassed nozomi so it can't be helped
>>172081704
That's not how it worked out for Blizzard
More money -> make the games worse, MILK THE COW NOW!
>>172081296
Fatefags will literally eat up anything TM shits out, and TM is likewise deadset on milking them for every last dime.
It was pretty obvious back when they released Fate/Extra which was an abomination of a videogame (combat was literally rock paper scissors), I'm honestly surprised they didn't enter the mobage market sooner.
>>172081976
They are actually milking the whales to death by the recent increase in price of packs. F2Pbtw players are laughing with their piles of gold untouched.
>>172081919
>IRC
What is this 2004?
>>172081719
The only thing you'll get are new sets every 3 months inbetween which have fun grinding the ladder. I literally only log in for dailies because I have fuckall to do in SV and cygames isn't gonna bother changing that any time soon.
>when all your d.shifts are in your last 10 cards
The deck keeps on memeing.
Anyone going to watch the Famitsu Cup?
Better to climb near the end of an expansion cycle or during the beginning?
I have already tried to climb 2k to Masters but so far I am only 1.3k points away and it feels a bit discouraging when I consider I have actually made it as far as 300 before Masters before loss streak
>>172074456
>Horse girls
>The girls are also musical idols
C'mon Japan give me a fucking break
>>172082247
They also go to high school.
>>172081919
and what irc server?
>>172082247
>idols, gacha and horse racing in a mobage
cygames is criminally genius
>>172082176
Are you expecting sympathy or something
>>172082307
Come ON
>>172082247
It would still be degenerate even if they were monstergirls, but it's literally just ears and a tail on normal looking anime girls.
>>172082328
>>172082089
That's just the stream chat
I'm using Chatty since it east less resources than having the tab open.
>>172082179
is it the finals
>>172082176
Choke on an Alaskan pipeline you little shit.
>>172082183
depends, right now the meta is somewhat stable and you can play sun satan or csword to do well against it.
when the expansion drops it'll be a mess and there's no telling what you'll queue into, especially since you'll run into low master memers. you could try playing unga blood then and try to punish the new decks but they gave so many different classes good control tools that it might not be as viable as it used to be.
is any forestcraft deck viable?
>>172082413
i saw a douji of a monster girl centaur in a school uniform, iirc she also masturbated with an upside down table
>>172082183
You know the meta right now, what works, what doesn't. You won't know shit in the next expansion and it'll be risky to climb, unless you're willing to play aggro blood to win against experimental decks. What if you hate the top decks that win or the new meta?
Finish the climb right now, and meme it up when the exp hits. Don't be a lazy fuck, ladder anxiety is a bitch but you're almost done with the grind, 1k3 score is nothing.
>>172081919
link?
Don't give up onii chan.
>>172079625
.>banish
the entire board
>>172082527
None. Forest lost all their T0 decks and only have 1 or 2 barely in the T1.
>>172082612
Sure but
>10 pp
What's this stream supposed to be?
twitch/tou_channel_plus
Taigah
76395
waiting for woof2
>>172082089
irc is still pretty strong m8
if not for based russian pirates irc still would be the best place to pirate books in english, right now it's second best after libgen
>>172082413
They also eat a lot of carrots.
I feel that's important to establishing their identity as horses.
46423
quick win, no concede please?
>>172082183
Late meta the decklists are usually set in stone, so you know exactly what's good and what you're going to see the most.
Early meta is a clusterfuck where fast aggro preys on untuned decks.
Someday I hope the game is in a place where immediately conceding certain bad matchups isn't the best way to climb fast.
What's the exploit to make Daria not brick? She bricks every game for me, but every game against one sees the perfect hand and draws.
>tfw lose the check
>>172082720
but bunnies eat carrots too
they had to eat some sugar instead
btw, would they be mad if i try to fead one of them with sugar?
Famitsu Cup stream is up
>>172082741
That's mainly an issue with control decks, which is why all the top decks are aggro or combo.
>>172082820
Masturbate while thinking of her. Its an important ritual which will guide the heart of the cards
>>172082993
do you have a link?
>>172081923
Without getting too much into unrelated stuff, PAD does have a pretty high skill cap, on top of lots of cute designs. Doing end game content feels more like work than play though, a lot of grinding dungeons to level up your teams so you can grind other dungeons better. There's a big content divide too between the Western and Eastern servers.
Doesn't help that my favorite girl was coopted by cuck spammers to shitpost with. I wouldn't mind if that general dies at this point.
>>172082993
link
sorry i lazy
>>172082948
>would they be mad if i try to fead one of them with sugar?
Nah, Horses love it when you feed them your pants sugar.
>>172077491
>spell immune
well no shit you're going to get bodied by a deck designed specifically to fuck dfaggots like yourself
>>172082820
the exploit is to git gud
>that feel when you make an absolutely horrid deck and leave yourself wondering how the hell you won in the first place
>>172082993
we have our tourney going and fuck famitsu where they show 15 minutes of walking nips in masks and then some cancer vs cancer game and again 15 minutes of walking nips
>>172083173
How does one git gud with a full brick?
Need a concede.
96907
>>172083113
Is it something more than bejeweled? Because I can't imagine how high skill a bejeweled game can be.
>>172083216
link to the /svg/ tournament?
>>172082726
thanks for the 30 rupies anon
help a brother out
26733
>>172083253
lewd elf armpits
>>172083216
>our tourny
who wants to see some aa shitters play """""midrange sword"""""", daria, and shadow?
>>172081395
I thought Arisa is original SV character?
I like her design but her official arts are scarce.
Fair and honest are meaningless buzzwords in card games. What they really mean is next to unplayable, because for them to be fair and honest, they must always give your opponent the chance to get the upper hand.
This is what trash like that would look like. No board impact on play, no burn, no value bloat, no stats over curve, no 2 for 1s, no efficient removal, no wincons. Or the ADD aggro subhumans perferred version of this, which would be every single card in the game is vanilla stats, but has storm. So everyone just dumps their shit and doesn't need to think.
>>172082467
Final 8
I feel blood will dominate once expansion hits because of mask>moon>follower removal turn>bapho>snek curve.
Plus with mask, Gobu tutoring bapho made it damn easier. Hell you might not even need blood moon if you get drop to vengeance by turn 8 since evolving a snek is a 7/7 body and slapping drain to it will save your ass.
>>172083253
Thanks eagle man.
>>172082576
>mods his cards
>doesn't uncensor Isabelle
>>172083321
yeah, thanks for not even giving me the concede afterwards BRO
still need a concede
46423
What do, other than concede.
>>172083301
twitch/selftips
>>172083418
Trading to get on board and finish off the opponent with a few roach strikes is the only fair play in this game.
>>172083564
haven is good
>>172083564
Haven's not bad in t2
>>172079659
You still have mana advantage
>>172083564
haven is all right mostly
>daria deals 20 damage with face damage by turn 8
Can we just skip to when you can kill someone on turns 4-5 entirely with face damage so this game can die and we can stop fooling ourselves into thinking the game will get better?
20171
need a win, b0ss.
emote 3 times and we can trade wins
FUCK SWORD
FUCK DRAGON
AND FUCK CYJEWS FOR GIVING THESE CLASSES MORE BROKEN SHIT.
>>172083159
But I'm not a Rune main and you said only storm decks beat Dshift which I also proved wrong.
>>172083554
I want some of that.
Can you believe how close Tempest of the Gods is?
It's making me forget my depression
>>172079625
Here's a quick rundown:
>Cygames employees bow to Rowen and Forte
>In contact with girls who eat bread
>Possess ramp-like abilities
>Control Nephytys and Haven with an iron but fair fist
>Own animated cards & rare sleeves globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient black dragon bloodline
>Will create the first discard decks on Mars
>Own 99% of Omelette editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer eggs will in all likelihood be Rowen eggs
>Both Rowen and Forte said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence in Shadowverse has only existed deep in ruined temples and the Nexus
>Ancient loli scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Shadowverse and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented deckbuilding progress with them
>They own dragon R&D labs around the world
>You likely have ivory dragons inside you right now
>Rowen & Forte are in regular communication with the Archangels Sahaquiel and Lucifer, forwarding the word of God to the hags.
>They learned fluent "H-HEAR" in under a week
>Nation states entrust their rupee reserves with the twins. There’s no rupees in the capitol, only Ft. Rowen.
>Rowen & Forte are about 2 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from Standard to Tempest. We don’t know their ultimate meme decks yet. We hope it's not an aggro meta.
>>172083793
>"I can't keep rewying on your bitch ass, dragon"
>>172083762
>complaining about broken shits
>want to face even more broken shits
Go ahead bro.
Need a concede please.
71925
>>172083563
thank you, you're too kind
can u execute ur own amulets
Who here dropping Dire Shit like the hot piece of trash that it is? Finally we can get rid of that piece of shit. No more KYSing for 3 fucking cards in a deck that has no fucking way of dumping hand half the time.
Toilet slut and Blood Pact are all the draw you'll ever need. Not to mention tutors (Uriel might see play, Blood Moon is that good, and Gobu can grab Baphomet).
>>172083761
thanks bud. appreciate it
>>172083886
Is HS that bad nowadays?
Isn't it sad, Vampy?
>>172083986
yes
>>172083946
Thanks Vampy!
>>172084050
How so?
>rune has banish the entire board for 3pp
>>172083978
Why not combine dire bond with mask?
>>172084087
pirate and shaman meta
>>172084045
mooom, i finally won with discard!
>>172084117
t. neph player
also, 6pp
>>172084132
why play dire bond when you can play belph instead and develop the board
First match of Famitsu Cup starting.
Elf, Dragon, haven vs elf, rune, and blood
>>172084117
Remember to rope all the runes you met.
>Forest players running pre-patch roach otk decks that still include 1 drops
>still have lethal turn 7 every time with goblin mage
>>172083978
mask into dire bond is a draw 3 heal 6, the card isn't going anywhere
>>172084184
That's Face Dragon anon...
>>172084045
Can't tell if old face dragon or discard.
>>172084212
Is that Midrange Blood meme?
>>172084212
and yet the knife ears will still bitch
>>172084232
Your own fault for not running wards.
>>172084283
w/e
>>172084324
I think it was control, they showed the decks earlier for the audience
>>172084045
>3/3 newt
>gobbo
>Vampy concedes
What, seriously why?
>>172084392
Then why does he play Feena and Angels?
>>172084392
it's playing horde and feena, it's gotta be midrange
>Turn 1 sacred plea
Every fucking time
>>172083258
I just picked out a random video from Youtube of a decently hard dungeon, by one of the more skilled players out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bs-3H45hQc
>enemy type weaknesses
>the HP thresholds that cause bosses to change their attack patterns
>how the playstyle of your own team leader will deal with all the shit a dungeon will throw at you like status effects, changing around your board, or damage shields
>planning ahead on when you should clear a floor so your abilities will be up when you need them
>enemies that one shot you if you don't kill them fast enough
>enemies that one shot you if you try to kill them too fast
And more. Anyways, not Shadowverse related, so I don't want to take up any more thread space on this. Go ask in their general if you want to know more.
>>172084248
>Wasting your masks in OTKverse
Why not play a 4/4 on 4 and draw 2 instead?
>>172084487
>turn 1 quickblader
>card databases still haven't updated their cards
>>172084562
>turn 1 NE NE
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>172084434
pussy
i never concede when there is a chance to survive and to topdeck burn/storm
THAT FUCKING THEMIS
>>172084283
It's disco zoo, actually.
>people honestly believe belphegor is going to see play
do these guys at the famitsu cup stream have a fully animated deck each? jelly
>>172084653turn 1 goblin
Link to stream?
>>172084664
>pussy
This guy acting macho because of he plays a card game.
>Thinking
>Thinking
>Thinking
>Insight pass
>>172084653
>T1 ne ne
>T2 double ne ne
>T3 ancient elf
YAMEROOOOO
>>172084807
indeed i do
pet me!
>mid blood actually won
LINK TO STREAM NOW
>>172084803
twitch tv/tou_channel_plus
>>172084784
>Turn 1 insight
>>172084836
>tfw you never get a 5/6 soccer mom at turn 3
;_;
>>172084776
>4/4 for 4 that draws 2 cards and has zero drawback if you played bloodmoon
why the fuck wouldn't they? with bloodmoon active it's one of the best cards in the game, value wise
just got master...
now what?
>>172084986
>>172085040
Thank you, have a chocolate
Guys is Kuzu no Honkai good
>>172085176
Enjoy your constant streams of DShit and """"Midrange"""" sword.
>>172085176
No fun allowed, that's what
>>172084776
>>172085304
I already see a bit of meme decks in low master. Are people in master really that tryhard?
>>172085176
meme
>>172084487
This so much.
Fucking guaranteed
>their whole hand is animated
Whales?
In a tournament?
>That top deck
Fucking havenshitter.
>>172084776
You are literally retarded
>>172085176
quit until next expansion
>>172085391
Yes.
I wanted to play memedecks, but shockingly enough, it doesn't matchup against of the 3 cancer decks.
Daria
Albert Sword
Dshift
>>172085463
those arent their accounts, they just make their decks and play on the machines
>>172085463
Those are accounts made specifically for the tournament, with all cards and all of them animated.
>>172085514
it's fine, roach goes off faster and literally just won the game off epms 0 cost fairy.
>>172085629
yeah I played against someone who had 58000 master points a couple days ago, like.. how?
Treefuckers will defend this shit
>>172085706
I want one
>>172085796
Better question is why?
There's no rewards, there's nothing.
>>172085786
>>172085852
It feels so good seeing forest wrecking that old hag.
this shit is why forest will never get nice things, at least until roach gets rotated out
>>172085905
well there is reward for top 100 and top 1000, but yeah that's excesive
>>172085670
>>172085706
I see, that's cool as fuck.
Another thing HS/Blizzard never ever though of doing.
>>172085852
>There were knife ears in this thread that were genuinely upset over the gobu nerf
They should've nerfed roach to 0/1 while they were at it
>>172085905
Yeah, I'm trying to understand why the top player right now has more pts this month than the month where they gave out 5,000 rupees and 3x animated for being top 100.
I guess some people really want a number next to their name.
>>172086017
That's only on specific months.
>>172085905
Gotta get them monthly sleeves
>>172085989
Control is always at a disadvantage against combo, that's like rooting for DShift.
I think all the classes are pretty fun and I play all of them near-equally. I don't know why there's so much animosity about other classes in here.
>>172086008
How is that roach's fault? Literally anything with storm can do it right there. Sword's equivalent at that situation would be the 3 mana 2/2 storm.
>>172086029
Haven is not supposed to win that match up anyway.
>>172085852
nice picture you got there anon
wow, animated seraph is fucking trash
>>172086160
Why do people hate seraph so much? Of all the stuff people call "cancer", it's the only one that has an obvious counter literally anyone can do as any craft
I don't play it, and have never understood the hate for it. Maybe the hate for early game haven stall as aggro, but that's separate.
>>172086292
>not liking best animated card in the game
>>172086140
Well, that doesn't explain this saturation of cancer.
It'd be tryhards sprinkled evenly over the month. Or it'd be tryhard week where everybody is running meta decks.
Not tryhard month where everybody is running meta decks.
>>172086261
>Literally anything with storm can do it right there.
for that specific outcome yeah
but only roach could've won there with an empty board, it was lethal regardless of what the havenfag did
>>172086351
>wave/ripple effect OVER the art
>pounding cockthrob on top of that
>>>>>>best
>>172086269
He is talking about the stream.
twitch tv/tou_channel_plus
>>172086351
Anon...
>>172086160
Dshift is control + OTK which means it stalls the game for no reason to snatch a win out of you. With tempo forest at least you know your fate around turn 7.
>>172086303
I have no problem losing to seraph, which is why I cut out Odin from my deck.
>>172086303
>need to go 3x odin to counter seraph
>most crafts dont even have base cards with banish for amulets
>Why do people hate seraph so much?
Gee I wonder
MOOOOOM I TOPDECKED LETHAL
>>172086475
I've literally never seen this card
>>172086259
Daria is literally a cheating card, that a cheater would come up with.
"Now I get to draw 5 cards and play all of them"
That sounds exactly like a butthurt kid who made up an effect on the spot so they wouldn't lose the game.
>>172086140
You don't get 120k master score to get sleeves
>>172086495
There's far worse cancer to complain about though, stuff that is literally uncounterable for certain crafts
I just don't get it
>>172086303
people hate the fact that you're forced to use odins because of seraph
without them, seraph is just one tier below dshift
>>172086549
Happened yesterday to me in T2.
I wanted to punch my screen.
>>172086396
Hence that match is not an argument for a roach nerf. There are more obnoxious things out there needing a nerf, Dshift for example.
>>172086616
because alternate win conditions are fucking retarded
>draws ANOTHER LEVI
>LEVI IS TOTALLY NOT THE PROBLEM WITH RUNE LAMO XDDD
>No Thermis in hand
All haven I've met always have Thermis in hand when I have a full board.
>>172086780
>ド
Does her shirt also say dork?
>haven would win right here if they went second
sad
>>172086771
>because alternate win conditions are fucking retarded
People with 0 TCG experience should be banned from posting in these threads forever
>draws levi
>doesn't evolve
>doesn't clear
>doesn't want another 3 direct damage
>>172086686
you really didn't understand the situation there but it doesn't change the fact that roach is all elf will fall back to in every meta, and it becomes cancer with even the smallest support
it needs to go so cygames can explore more options with forest
>>172083554
I got tired of her boobs. Tried half nude version, then nude version, came to this in the end.
>>172086780
>>172086846
Just Themis bro
>>172086953
>Average rune players' intelligence
>>172086460
>>pounding cockthrob
hawt
>>172086029
Cygames: Hmmmm, how do we fix roach decks?
Cygames: I know, lets nerf a neutral tutor that's crucial to blood aggro.
This ugly motherfucker lives in an AMULET
And basically its turn 7 and your tempo is FUCKED
twitch tv/selftips
top4 from here on out
>>172086616
>There's far worse cancer to complain about though
Such as? Elana+seraph? Potentially incoming aegis elana? Sun satan? Just elana?
Every single haven deck is uncounterable by anything but aggro decks
>>172087109
Funny thing is the only other deck that is actually affected is Aggro Shadow with no more reaper pull. Blood can do just fine as piloted by that guy with 102k MP as we speak.
>Haven in charge of winning without thermis
>>172086475
rain devil has a great animated art
Holy shit, that guy on the left could open cans with his teeth.
>>172086686
>roach kills faster than dshift
>is more consistent than dshift
>doesn't have bad matchups like dshift
whatever helps you sleep at night
>>172087253
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>172087109
It didn't affect them as much though? They just swap out gobu for angel.
>>172087271
>Blood can do just fine as piloted by that guy with 102k MP as we speak.
That guy is only doing well because he has an obscene amount of games played.
Most people won't get such a consistent winrate with blood because they aren't playing 100+ games per day.
>>172087271
Funny thing, I don't know where this meme about aggro shadow needing gobu came from, but I never used it and had positive winrate through AA0 just fine.
the rolls on isabelle´s suit is fat?
>>172087057
With all these new wards coming up roaches are significantly weaken, and in my opinion, it does need more support because there is no tier 0 forest deck for quite some time already.
I play better and faster than 99% of all these stream shitters. What the fuck?
Need a concede
32030
>>172087469
i play rather sparingly and aggro blood is by far my most successful deck
>>172086947
>insult
not an argument
>>172087469
Yet if you actually watch his past broadcasts, he won a couple of 2k MP over 1-2 hours. A proof that the deck is doing just fine with the GM nerf.
There is one guy with 1k win as aggro shadow this season, but I still doubt about it being good.
>>172087365
>calling me a jew because its an instaloss if you play vs haven without aggro decks
And guess who dominates the meta now? aggro decks. I wonder why? Can't be because of haven niggers
>>172087521
i want to lick isabelle's fat rollsand the thigh fat that spills out of her socks
Would you like to be among the crowd watching people play in a tournament like those japs, or too cringe?
>>172087618
>an entire month without being t0
wow~!!
>>172087702
Thanks cute Luna-chan, i love you
>>172087521
everything about isabelle is fat
>>172087521
Mammaries have a lot of fatty tissue, yes.
>opening card packs
>says loading
leggo inc
>>172087253
How is Seraph a problem? Elana however is quite cancerous, but not as much nowadays.
>>172087859
Hello best friend,
And no. Why go there in person when you can just watch a stream?
>>172087859
they seems pretty normal though but they will look at you at disgust because you are gaijin
>Midrange Sword
>not """"""""""""""""""""Midrange"""""""""""""""""""" Sword
Finally.
>>172087859
I wouldn't mind being there, but stream is comfier
>>172087521Yes.
Reminder to punish knife ears for trying to play the game
>>172087859
I would go there to judge teeth
>Mfw an anon here just claimed that roaches is what elf will always use
>Roach is always a problem according to him
>When suddenly a tourney deck with no roach showing on screen
Really makes me think.
>>172087790
>2nd lowest winrate craft
Yes anon, instaloss if you're not playing aggro.
I'm sure the grand total of 3 aggro decks on the ladder are the only ones winning against Haven.
Rope yourself.
>>172087859
Do I get to be near cute cosplayers?
>>172088194
It had Roach, blind fuck
>>172088194
>A craft having multiple viable uncounterable OTK decks is bad
Forestcraft is the most spoiled craft
>>172087521
The most delicious kind of fat
>>172085304
He said Master, not AA.
>>172087997
truth
hows this look for ramp?
tz6u
>Daria D-shift
>every player is bringing elf
Really bounces your roaches.
>>172087510
With the meta being Ping heavy, GM replaces skeleton knight while giving more consistency by fetching you a 2pp. All of the 2PPs are good with reaper being the best pull.
Right now, they have to settle with AotW.
>>172088247
cute
>>172088293
Master is the same as AA for most people
>>172088247
>no curves
Shit cosplay, shit Eris. Might as well be a boy
>>172087961
Hi bro, how you doing?
What's up with all the people using trips referencing my name?
>>172087997
>>172088019
>>172088152
I like the streams too but it seems charming too to be there.
I wonder if we eventually will get a World Championship.
>>172088281
Still not as spoiled as Albertcraft.
>Midrange
>Can literally do anything
>Aggro on demand
>Late game answers
>Mid game finishes
>Ward cities
>Flooding the board
>Forest vs Rune
Wow, nice nerfs shadowbbs
>>172088337
>you need 50k more vials to create this deck
>>172088383
Name one (1) reason to ever not use Ancient Elf.
>>172088457
I'd rather play Sword all day than Forest
At least I can interact with it
Spellboost is balanced.
>>172088420
>Might as well be a boy
Ambushcraft is fun!
>average Daria turn 4 turn
>>172088423
probably would Hawaii have one because its the closest state to japan
>3 roaches in hand
>Still in a losing position
>Roaches are the problems
Wow, really solid logic right there, almond activating indeed.
holy shit this daria
>>172088423
>Hi bro, how you doing?
Good good, farming master ranks with the crafts I don't have at lvl 100 yet.
>What's up with all the people using trips referencing my name?
Who?
>>172088414
It's easier for me somehow. AA2-3 was hell.
>>172088465
It's almost as if they didn't hit the actual problems with Rune and Forest.
>>172087859
I'd go there for their giving away free stuff.
>>172088247
At least Erika is there
>>172088420
>Shit cosplay, shit Eris
Wow what a shit taste anon.
>Daria is bala-
>>172088537
If you really play a lot against forest you will realise that they actually trade on board.
>>172088513
lul if it makes you feel better i got an absolute dogshite roll starting. no legendaries. been playing a long while very on and off
Why do card game tournaments even exist when it's all RNG
Anyone else watching this /svg/ tourny?
>>172088653
you completely misinterpreted my argument so your passive-aggressive posts are flying over my head
>>172088678
>Good good, farming master ranks with the crafts I don't have at lvl 100 yet.
Im doing the same.
Bird Haven it's pretty comfy.
>who?
There's like this dude called Elizabeth husband and I saw another called Elizabeth son.
>>172088835
looks like 25 other people are
>roach can still win after a daria nut
>dshift would have lost turns ago
>>172088694
Those eyes are freaky.
>>172088886
give me link.
>>172088809
Why does gambling exist? Casinos?
>>172088581
>Post dshitters getting destroyed
This was the most retarded game I've ever watched
>Daria cucked by brick Destroyer
lmao
>>172088965
You compete against the house, not against other people dumb cuck
just mvp your luck guys
>>172088653
>elf wins off being able to clear with roach
You were saying?
That silver bolt helped
>>172088894
That is control you dipshit.
Shittiest win condition:
>Top decked direct damage spell
>>172089097
>competing against someone that is stacked to win
>vs competing against someone whos odds to win are the same as yours
Great job shooting yourself in the foot
>Turn 6 heal for 8 with a 4/4 body
What were they thinking?
>>172089149
Literally any storm character can do that. And guess which class has the most storm character?
I'm so fucking tired
>Daria dude would have won if he used the crimson sorcery to face instead of clearing a small minion
>>172089237
>6pp 4/4
damn I care
wait I dont
>>172089237
Something along the lines of "Fuck aggro", probably.
>>172089325
Avatarfagging is against the rules
>>172089149
Daria misplayed >>172089325
>>172089315
Why didnt you odin guardian sun earlier?
Need concede, will concede back if you need it too. spam emoteif you want full matches.
45376
>Daria mirrors
May as well have them roll dice.
>>172089483
The plan was to use Odin to delete a ward a push through early. Also I had Baha to deal with it.
That backfired once I didn't have the board to punch through Satan for Albert.
>Daria DShift
Why are people trying so hard to make this a thing
>>172088337
I'd replace Fafnir and one Dragoon with two more Salamander Breaths, and the 3x Scholars with 3x Dragon Emissary.
In this meta, Fafnir has pretty much no use next to Bahamut, and the situations where you'd want to use Dragoon are incredibly rare.
I'm not sure why you included the Scholars, but if you're just trying to cycle your small guys to get to your big guys faster, Emissary is more reliable.
>That Daria draw 5 without discard
Disgusting as fuck.
>>172089315
Good game
I want to see reapers animation though fug i forgot
>go second with Ice Form and double levi
>still lose to dude without levi that went first
>>172088835
me!
tfw no blood
>tfw playing a 6K vials bloodcraft deck and beating decks that actually cost significantly more
Batcraft is bestcraft
>>172089315
Tired of what?
>>172089520
Thank you Mythril Golem.
>>172089863
Your days are counted, unga man. TotG will obliterate all aggro.
>>172089773
Good game
Was Astaroth really the last card?
>B-rank shitstain winning the SVG tournament
>>172089237
It's not even that great right now. Most aggro decks can shit on you before you even get to drop it. The biggest tempo hits Forest can shit out are Slyvan, Ancient Elf and May when it really matters. If you haven't burned them to the point 6 HP hardly matters by then, a control deck was already winning anyway.
>Shadow dominating the tourney
>>172088862
>There's like this dude called Elizabeth husband and I saw another called Elizabeth son.
You're not the guy who makes the OPs?
>>172090062
>>172090062
>b rank shadow beat masters dragon
>>172089680
i don't know how to build ramp is why, thanks for the tips. just got wrecked by nep nep after wrecking daria :(
twitch tv/selftips
Losers final now
>>172088862
>I saw another called Elizabeth son.
my elizabeth can't be that old
>>172089954
The ship silver will help bats.
>>172090062
>>172090259
>holding a tournament at the same fucking time as Famitsu Cup
Literally why
>>172090675
i always seem to do this
just a good timeslot i guess..
>Urias
>going first
>didn't mulligan