XCOM General - /xcg/

>>171974402
1st for tits > ass

pistols are useful

>>171974402
If you want to catch the hype bug now and disappoint yourself later
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/06/14/phoenix-point-new-xcom-julian-gollop/

http://pastebin.com/k9pT8zx4

>>171974579
wrong

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>>171974648
Agreed

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6th for we have 3 Trump voicepacks but not a single Pence one

The gallop ama in OP just links to the xcom general pastebin

>>171974402
>>171975249
damn
http://pastebin.com/PZWh2Zr1

>>171975221
drumpf worship is pathetic

>>171975519
>pol
take it somewhere else

>>171975519
>worship is pathetic
Fix'd.

>>171975519
Getting assmad about silly joke mods is pathetic.

XCOM is pathetic.
Join ADVENT.

>>171976614
Will I get a snek wife that's loyal to me?

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>>171976614
fuck advent

>>171976727
Yeah you will good go- I mean respectable citizen, please move along to gene facility.

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>>171975519

>>171975221
He doesn't have any goo lines about electrocution.

I hate drones because of how well they're designed as enemies.

xcum give it to ya

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Reposting question.
How is the xcom board game?

Playing XCOM 2 for the first time, how much should I worry about the Avatar Project? I know if the bar fills up, you have a limited amount of time to do something about it before you lose. Seems a bit stricter than the Panic system from EU/EW, where you couldn't lose as long as you didn't fuck up too hard and kept as satellite or two in reserve.

>>171980276

i always let it fill up before addressing it

just make sure you always have a story mission or facility ready to go if you need it

>>171980276
>how much should I worry about the Avatar Project?
Not at all, since you can reset the clock any time by completing a story objective or destroying a facility.

Best thing out of LW2 was the way they nipped that little bit of cheese in the bud.

>>171979805
pretty good from what i have heard

>>171976814
But the recruitment facility is two blocks over.

>>171981095
Fuck you

ADVENT has done nothing but help humanity progress from the stone age to a new era of prosperity. These XCOM terrorists need to be stopped once and for all! They don't speak for me!

>>171981612
>0.02 ADVENTBUX have been deposited to your account

>>171981334
Hey buddy, ya got the wrong facility.

What are some good mission type ideas? I'm getting kinda bored of the same old shit and I'm looking into modding. Also is there any way to increase the base infiltration for escort extraction mission. It's gonna be impossible to stealth them in the next patch because they're removing the ability to command civies.

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So is the Celatid mod any good?

>>171983543

If you're doing anything for LW2, how about more mission types involving rebels? Maybe stuff like helping prepare a haven for an incoming ADVENT Raid or clearing abandoned outposts of alien stragglers.

Alternatively, what about stuff like missions with multiple dark VIPs to secure? It'd up the challenge a bit at the very least

>>171984449
>more mission types involving rebels
playing with rookies is bad as it is

I don't know if that would be fun

>>171984730

It'd be a whole squad + a handful of rebels and a soldier haven manager. Even if the rebels died you'd still have your squad to rely on.

>>171983543
A mission that requires hacking into a station control that activates mechtroids that will auto kill Advent.

It's purpose is to cause a huge disruption and slow the doom meter.

Any decent LW2 series to watch?

>>171975461
>>171902468
Thanks. I'm trying really hard not to get excited, but everything he said sounded exactly like the game I've had in mind for years but never had the discipline to sit down and try to create.

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>>171984037

>>171985392

xwynns, without a doubt. He's got so much energy and positivity. So refreshing after Beagle

>>171987370
BOTH BARRELS

>>171988150
BURNINATE

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>>171979805

Very decent but it's highly recommended for more than one player unless you really want a challenge in data crunching.

>>171987370
he needs to take some ritalin

For the guy who was asking where the faceless spawn rate was defined.
It's in XComLW_Outposts.ini near the top at line 9.

DEFAULT_FACELESS_CHANCE=0.16f ; Initial chance [0.0 = never, 1.0 = always] of a new rebel being faceless

>>171990617
I'm tempted to zero that out. Rendezvous got old the first ten times.

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>>171974648
Only because you can use them with shields

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>>171974402

I kinda like the vibe of that picture.

>>171994260
That almost looks like a mothership from EDF with a Genocide gun deployed.

Imagine dealing with that shit in XCom.

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Trying to get back into EW and it feels really sluggish compared to XCOM 2.

>>171984730
Leveled-up rebels can be surprisingly versatile, RNGJesus-granting.

>>171987370
We'll see how that holds up, considering recent events.

>>171995464
Bagel needs to grow a pair and stop being so conservative.

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>>171994329

It really looks like they had some rather crazy ideas during the first steps of EU planning.

>>171993987

AAAAH WHENS KNIGHTS IN XCOM2

>>171997196
That looks kind of like reapers on earth

>>171997365

>Humans we have come to turn you into genetic goo to stop you from turning yourselves into genetic goo! Please, this way to the gene clinic.

>>171997270
>>171993987
I'm telling you guys, we need leather, chain, plate, etc. armor for the next set of xcom2 cosmetic mods.
But more importantly we need someone to animate shields

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>>171997592

How you feel about a knight looking cosmetic set for T2.

>>171997667
I don't really knows what "T2 knight" means. Do you mean cobbled together plate armor?

>>171984037
They look like a prolapsed vagina implanted on a piece of metal.

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>>171997365

The Outsider does remind me a bit of Mass Effect.

>>171999746
>Outsider
I don't know but they looked so out of place in EU.
It's like they were a enemy concept from an entirely different take on the game that got cut , but developers forgot to remove.

>>171995464

I love me Xavier. What's the drama with him and bagel?

>>172000367
>drama
I don't think there is any such thing

>>172000551
Ok what are the "recent events"?

>>172000760
I think bagel is trying to get back into his xcom groove

>>171995162
noice titd

>>172000198
True.

https://youtu.be/oEu_L0kk0wQ

Bump desu

>>172003287
seems you went for a bagelrush angle

>>172005769
Ironman Impossible was like

3 years ago?

>>172005993
About that long ago

It's a shame I beagle didn't enjoy XCOM 2 that much

>>172006236
I don't think Beagle is enjoying anything right now. Don't forget how fun the pre-release, animes streams, and Guerilla war streams were.

>>172006720

He still likes LW1 doesn't he? He just needs to start a new a LW 1.0 campaign on youtube, its what everyone wants.

>>172006821
That's my point, he is stuck.

>>172006720
Who could forget the 40 man squads? Memester's panic grenade?

>>172007041
>It ain't me starts playing

>>172007098
>have 40 men on overwatch
>two out of five enemies survive

>>171977645
I like how they're obviously designed to be countered by early game snipers

>>171999746
I like how they improved them in 2 with T&A.

>>172007483
combat protocol is a hard counter too

/jp/ has an xcom thread starring a Touhou

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>>172010187
Scored one oc at least

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I like how the DLC missions keep popping up if you ignore them. Will they all disappear if I do Last Gift once? I wanted to save them for when I researched predator armor and laser weapons, so now would be the best time.

>>172010982
dunno but that's a recognized bug which they're attempting to patch out

>>172013745
I can in fact repeat the mission again. Guess I'll be getting another two spark units for free!

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guys, sparks are so fucking unbelievably good in long war.

it provides high cover. it has shitton of ablative hp. it can have 7 armor. it can provide complete immunity to everyone in a radius of smoke cloud. throw a smoke and aid protocol on it and it becomes an unshootable fucking tank. it's a godsend against alien reaction fire.

do lost towers as soon as it pops up.

>>172016075
Can they be haven advisors?

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So who was demanding Doom Guy in XCOM?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=890667061

>>172016172
no.

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>>172016187
actually no one was demaning that.

>>172016456
Wasn't there a guy who wanted Doom stuff or was it just Doom weapons?

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>>172016187
>>172016456
>>172016529
Multiple anons have been wanting doom stuff, and I am one of them, so yes, I'm pretty happy.

>>172016727
>>172016187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hauVRrgEXl8

>>172016529
i have seen more people asking for the weapons but the suit is fine too

Is there some way to disable the faceless spy thing in my haven, maybe through a mod or the .ini? I'm 3 months in and even with putting my highest ranking dude as the haven advisor I still haven't found the spy. I haven't got a single supply drop and have been in the red since the end of the first month.

I like the mechanic but if I'm taking one of my highest ranking soldiers out to put them in haven limbo I at least would like him to find the spy within a reasonable time. Not 3+ fucking months

>>172017169
see
>>171990617

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>>171974402

That castle looks like such a nice HQ to have.

>>171990617
>>171992276
What do I change if I want there to be zero faceless?

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>>172016187

Nice.

>>172016456

Nope. We were definitely asking for that.

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>>172016187

Personally i didn't want Doomguy, i wanted the multiplayer cosmetics, especially the helmets.

>>172017553
I don't think you can remove existing faceless, just stop more from spawning.

What you might be able to do is change the faceless penalty though. Try the following (after backing up the .ini file in case you want to rollback if this breaks something.)

FACELESS_SUPPLY_DRAIN=20f ; Percent of supplies drained from the monthly supply in this haven per faceless, factoring number of days active.

Set this to 0f.

Then find these 3 near the bottom, same file:

[Resupply LWRebelJobTemplate]
IncomePerRebel=1.0f
IncomePenaltyPerFaceless=1.5f

[Recruit LWRebelJobTemplate]
IncomePerRebel=3
IncomePenaltyPerFaceless=5

[Intel LWRebelJobTemplate]
IncomePerRebel=5f
IncomePenaltyPerFaceless=2.5f
ResourceIncomeAmount=1

And replace the income penalty per faceless to be the negative value of the rebel, so for supplies you'd get:
[Resupply LWRebelJobTemplate]
IncomePerRebel=1.0f
IncomePenaltyPerFaceless=-1.0f

Note the minus. Negative penalty, meaning a boost. So your faceless are still there, but they do the exact same thing as a regular rebel if you do this for all 3.

Finally I'd also edit these to 0.00:
[LW_Overhaul.LWRebelJobIncomeModifier_LocalFaceless]
PCT_PENALTY_PER_FACELESS[0]=0.03
PCT_PENALTY_PER_FACELESS[1]=0.05
PCT_PENALTY_PER_FACELESS[2]=0.06
PCT_PENALTY_PER_FACELESS[3]=0.07

You might need to start a new month for these to take place since supplies and stuff seem to tick up daily. I'd save right before a new month rolls around, try the edits and see what your projected supplies for the end of the month are like.

>>172017582
No, we were not

>>172017859
If edit the ini so no more faceless spawn, then if I just manage to root out that first faceless then for the rest of the campaign no more will spawn right?

Your suggestions didn't work from what I can tell, I still get penalized % of supply as usual.

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those fucking assassinations are like good old ufo snakemen terrors.

as in you shoot civies before ayys.

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>>172019202
so of a bitch!

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>>172015179
>this glitch
>my roster when
You could just let Last Wish stack up on your map forever and get a free spark every 20-30 minute mission.

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oh, ablative hp from vests is lost before ablative hp from soulmerge. isn't it just great?

double tap or serial?

>>172020321
take 1 double tap on your forth sniper to kill generals, serials on everyone else.

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Hngggggggg

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>>172020526
The manhattan project was a success!

a gunner would do this and better.

>>172020594
>>172021107
like with mag cannon you'd get them all wiped

gunner just shoots and explosions are cooler than shooting

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uuh why did she spawn here?

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>>172021168
>explosions are cooler than this

>>172003287
>biggie in the intro
Nice

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>>172020321
as you can see i've just made 10 killing shots and still going. what would i do with double tap here, aside from being slaughtered on ayy turn?

but you do need proper tech level rifles.

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he didn't want this war, all he wanted was to become a ballerina.

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at this precise moment i realised that i should've built the mag snipers.

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in russian there is a proverb for this kind of situation.

"to get oneself into the dick"

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Thin Men > Viper cunts

>>172025356
This t b h
Thin men were assholes but Vipers (especially in LW2) are just stupid

>>172026837
FUCKING NAGA

>>172027565
more like one viper tongues one of youré guys triggering 2 more pods and then sidefuckers come up and crit yourè guy for 10000 damage

>>172026837
[tongue grabs you from full cover into 6 mecs which were trained to fuck your mouth]

hehe, hiss... nothing personell human

>>172029713
I want Vipers to tongue fuck my mouth.

>>172029886
https://e-hentai.org/g/503532/e0d3179bfa/

like this?

Anyone else using Ashlynne's LW2 alien pack? The flame viper's (why wasn't it named salamander? such a missed opportunity) inferno rifle seems to have a 100% chance to hit regardless of cover. Which means anything it hits is almost guaranteed to die since that's average of 6 damage + burning. You have to kill one before it has a chance to attack or you're fucked, but I don't want to get rid of the pack since the other two aliens it adds are pretty neat and not ridiculously strong.

>>172030374
Exactly like that.

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>19 mobility ranger with endurance runner and run&gun
>can get it up to 25 mobility with no items and SMG type weapon

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>>172031328
NO BRAKES ON THE LIBERATION TRAIN

>>172031328
I kind of miss the ridiculus mobility builds from grimys loot mod.
https://youtu.be/QunozoQ_6Hg
My 1 turn network tower

Do you think Lump gets coal for Christmas?

>>172033585
>santa drops down chimney
>gets overwatched by Lump and his kids

>>172034337
>Implying Santa doesn't have lighting reflexes.

>>172034547
>implying Lump's magnificence doesn't nullify lightning reflexes
>Magnificence grants immunity to all enemy abilities

so when is 1.3?

i just deleted the campaign that i was posting screens from here because it's too easy.

>>172036625
You can edit values to make the game herder.

so wait, all warsuits do is just give you 1 additional slot and a heavy weapon at the cost of armor?

is this a joke? you don't even need a slot, what the fuck are you gonna take besides ammo, vest and plating?

>>172038363
I think it also lowers or removes equipment mobility penalties. So fast operating.

>>172038725
doesn't look that way to me. all items still incur mobility penalties.

What would you expect a class dedicated to controlling a Chryssalid to be able to do?

The chryssalid would be the main attacker while the human controlling it is support.

>>172039161
Huh, thought someone else mentioned it, but now all I see is the heavy weapon slot.

>>172039489
Takes the lids from ABA and have it grow/change model according to the skills the soldier takes?
>baby lid at squaddie
>gets bigger and changes color
>one tree for tenk, one for rip and tear, one for spitting poison

>>172039489
Being able to create an army of lids obviously

https://youtu.be/srMCaMJCNb8
Thoughts?

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>>172040562

Wait. Didn't they said that no more big changes or overhauls?

>>172040562
Actually a step in the right direction.

>>172003287
You got the voice down to less autistic levels, this one's solid. Still a beaglerush ripoff, but I guess nobody's done a campaign like that in years.

no death

It would be nice if the workshop gremlins could be placed in any facility, not just adjacent ones. I don't really feel like it's worth building as it is now.

>>172040562
Compared to the smash 'n grab in his LW2/L playthrough, it's much better. Last time he did it, it was almost a milk run. I like that it's non-stealth now too. We need a larger pool of non-stealth missions, especially ones for smaller squads.

>first mission encountering a hentai sphere
>quit because life
>come back later
>kill it
>quit because life
>come back later
>lol no virtual function call
>no autosave from before the hentai sphere died

Why is this legal?

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Did anybody order 1500 pounds of sneks?

>>172052000
Dump them in the /u/ ass thread.

>>172052114
That's evil.

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>>172052000
nice trips

>>172052474
Okay, now I really don't want a snek gf.
Not that I wanted one previously.

>>172038363
heavy weapons are fucking powerful, my man

Shredder guns are overpowered, but shredstorm cannons are out of this fucking world.

>>172058661
I never did figure out why their environmental damage was on par with combat engineer grenades despite it being really low in the ini files.

Shredder basically invalidates technicals and sapper grenadiers entirely and you can rush them in the first two months assuming you get alloys to buy from the black market.

>mutons first show up
>your troops have more hp than them and one shot them with giant cone based attacks that destroy cover
Very hard game!

>>172059879
Shredder guns don't reliably destroy high cover. I haven't checked with a Sapper grenadier using one though.

>>172061157
I think they're better than sapper grenades at cover destruction. Shredstorms are even better, they might reliably destroy any cover highlighted in the cone (and more!) but that would need testing.

EXO suits are groovy.

I'm having so much fun playing LW2 now that the hump is over. It really sucks at the beginning but damn if my troops aren't synergizing like hell.

Incidentally, Covering Fire Rapid Reaction Rangers with Tracer Rounds, Advanced Auto-Loaders and Advanced Hair Triggers will get off four shots per turn. Two can kill entire pods. I have one with Shredder as an AWC perk and he wrecks.

They aren't quite Gunners, but I've never been able to reliably use Gunners.

>>172061846
>but I've never been able to reliably use Gunners.
They seem like the most reliable class to me.

Class tier lists?
LW2
God tier - gunners sharpshooters
Good tier - shinobis assaults rangers
Alright tier - grenadiers specialists
Trash tier - technicals

ShadowOps LW2
God tier - dragoons juggernauts
Good tier - hunters recons scrappers
Alright tier - combat engineers
Trash tier - survivalists
Thoughts?

>>172062231
I've heard good things about grenadiers with plasma nades.
Sharpshooter in God tier seems really odd to me. Their weakness early game is an auto-dis qualifier imo.

>>172062231
Support grenadiers are at least good, if not god tier. Sharpshooters and their useless early nature should be moved to good. Gunners aren't that much better than assaults IMO, but that's my playstyle.

>>172062067
Some Sidewinders will skip out and flank them or just plain up shoot them through high cover or the enemies won't clump up nicely or a naga will flank and blast them and then every motherfucker they suppress are coming right at their face. I think even with elite advanced magazines they can only get off about five shots anyway before they run dry.

And nagas and sidewinders show up in minimum pods of three later on, you need rangers or shinobi or assaults around to take them on.

My Rangers will straight up shoot any motherfucker shooting them in the face, and I get to take a shot at a motherfucker at them during my turn. That averages out to two shots per phase, including the enemy phase, or four per turn. Not to mention that with Ever Vigilant you can set up flank overwatches easily.

I've heard of high-cover smoke camping with Gunners but it still seems a tad too situational, especially with the challenge map PCPs I use.

>>172063104
Gunners do more than suppress.

>>172063104
Suppression is far from the only thing in their toolkit. Gunners are swiss army knives

>>172063330
>>172063773

I don't find them mobile enough for my liking, and their single raw damage abilities have too high cool downs for my taste.

Then again, I haven't invested in the mid-Perk exclusive Gunner yet. She seems like an Assault that commits to one target... hmmm, Rapid Firing enemies that you close with... though not quite as reliable as an Assault at point blank. I might spec one and see what happens.

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>>172062231
>Thoughts?
Pic related.

>>172064793
The machine guns alone get insane on higher tech levels

>ywn go deep into Tygan's Nigerian interior
feels bad man

>>172074043
Do we even know where Tygan is from?

>>172075249
I don't think so

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Ghost Grenades need to return.

>>172071316
who is this fluid druid

>>172075249
that post is a reference to a skyranger briefing Bradford delivers on some missions to Nigeria.

>>171974402
Any idea how to get Xcom 2 mods to run when not connected to the internet? (via Steam). I'm not gonna have internet for a while, and I wanted to slam out Long War 2, but the mods won't load in the list in offline mode.

>>172083760
From Google:

Navigate to your Steam Workshop folder location (usually under "Steamapps/workshop/content/#######") or some random number assisgned to a game.

Copy all of the the folders inside that contain the mods (each mod folder will also be randomly named).

Paste them into a created mod folder inside your Xcom 2 game directory (i.e. "X:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\XCOM 2\XComGame\Mods")

Run the Xcom Launcher and re-enable all of the mod

Apparently this worked for some

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In Memoria of the Fan Art section.

>>172084345
Thanks, pal.

Xcom are terrorist and murderers.

>>172010187
>>172010861
What the fuck is this

>>172013575
Terrible form, he should know better than to teacup the fucking pistol grip

>>172023868
I feel like that proverb crosses all language boundaries.

>>172025356
Agreed.

>>172048862
Did he get hired to work on Phoenix Point or what? Fusing malleable flesh with guns just does not look right or good. That said, it is pretty well executed.

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>>172089531
you say that like its a bad thing

>>172089957
>Fookin' ADVENT

>>172090494
this guy get it

>>172089957
>no russian

Why didn't the aliens just stash the commander under da sea?

Was him getting liberated part of their plan?

>>172091928
Sea base was expensive

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>when Anarchy's Children finally has a use

>>172092051
nice

>>172092006
>Republican Ethereal faction comes into power in the collective
>Commander's security is compromised by deep budget cuts, resulting in the events of XCOM2

How else do we explain the idiocy of having him in a city centre defended by like, 4 troopers.

>>172092376
>Republican's cutting defense spending
anon I...

>>172092376
maybe they they were moving them or hubris

>>172092376
yes anon, republican ayys are the ones opening free gene therapy clinics across the globe for people of another race, asking for more people to immigrate into their big cities and cutting defense spending

>>172092847
heehee

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>it's a Advent captain crits two soldiers through full cover episode

>>172092376
200% infiltration, duh

why do you think it's such a small squad?

>>172093001
MOR BALATEN

So, I think my LW2 bugged out. I have two officers stuck in the GTS with infinite training times and I can't get them out. What do?

>>172092559
>>172092847
Defense spending does not equal good military leadership or attention to detail.

>>172094629
deconstruct your gts?

>>172094629
report the bug

>>172094636
>>Commander's security is compromised by deep BUDGET CUTS, resulting in the events of XCOM2

hmmm what seems to be the point of contention?

Anyway remember 2011 Libya

>>172094636
Anon you fucked up, get over it.

>>172094665
I tried doing that and it just deleted my soldiers along with it, RIP.
>>172094667
I don't know what happened exactly for the game to lock my soldiers in the GTS forever with no way to get them out, but I'll go report it.

>>172095000
oh fuck maybe console command them back

Remember, Snake waifu with huge tits > liberated Earth.

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>>172097892

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>>172097892
>French Assault in Double Trouble 2

>>172098484
>lesbian threesome
wew

>>172097892
but that is objectively wrong

you fucking furry

>>172099963
I believe the correct term is scalie

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>>172099963
>dumb ape would rather life in a world of constant war than live in a comfy futuristic ADVENT house with a snake waifu with DD tits

>>172100057
nope, its classified under furfag
same shit different type of animal

Alright. Thinking of getting back into this game.

I never played the Long War mod in the original. I like the sound of a longer campaign mode, but I don't really enjoy that it sounds like they turned the game into a meat grinder game. I don't like losing soldiers every mission or to the damn turn timer. That being said, should I bother with Long War then?

If not Long War, are there any other good mods that are recommended?

Are there going to be any more official DLC added to the game? I feel like Shen's gift and the Alien Hunters stuff was really a let down compared to Xcom Enemy Within. Or has 2k moved on from this game?

>>172101101
>Are there going to be any more official DLC added to the game?
yes

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>>172018564

Yes we did.

>>172097892
>leave /xgc/ for a few months
>come back
>see this
I love you bastards, never change.

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>>172052474
>I'd have to feed my snek wife $1600 of food every week.

Well shit.

>>172107006
That's a supersized buff snek though. No way vipers cost even close to that much.

>>172107398
Oh, that's a good point. They're way slimmer than that elevator snake.

>>172110340

Quite the accurate description of XCOM 2.

1.3 when

>>172113487
95% chance to be released tomorrow

>>172113623
Even a graze will do it!

>>172062231
>he doesn't Fearsome entire pods
>he's not lucky enough to get Focus in the AWC on his Watchful Eye survivalists

>>172049950
Been looking at this.
It's not Steam, all files are verified. It's probably not mods, unless shit in the /xcg/ bin that's listed as compatible isn't.

Dead Gatekeepers break saves.

>>172116327
>chance to panic enemies
>entire pods
yeah, sure
>depending on AWC roll to make the class usable
this is the definition of trash

how the fuck are you actually supposed to play with NCE

>>172120420
Spec soldiers according to their stats. Sometimes you get a trashy roster and are better off restarting. Helps to use commander's choice.

>>172112672
>only shit countries get ravens
guess they have firestorms by now

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wtf is this shit? 2nd mission and i literally can't do it. 1st mission had a 2 day infil timer as well. why am i getting these on a fresh game, should i just start again?

>>172125242
That's some shit luck friendo. I'd start again since it's the mission after gatecrasher so you haven't lost anything.

My first 5-6 missions had like upwards of 6 days on Commander, the timers are all over the place.

>>172104458

That's a thicc soldier.

>>172127621
I never do this strat because one time a pod activated through the closed doors and blocked the way out

Thingken about changing the health gain from armor into ablative points like with the vests. Would that be overpowered? Seems to fit more with Long Dong, in my opinion.

>>172133151
It would be nice to have armor health back. Fuck it if it's overpowered, Change it first then balance around it.

>>172125242
That's Liberation 1. That's why the timer's so short. Let it go; you aren't meant to do every single mission. It'll pop up again.

so how exactly are classes reworked in 1.3?

>>172133995
wouldn't you like to know

>>172133995
we only know that shinobis get conceal at MSgt, gunners demolition now costs 5 ammo and snap shot gets a rework (iirc the penalty is only when you move and shoot as opposed to always)
I would expect technicals to get buffed and saturation fire to get nerfed.

>>172135178
>conceal at MSGT
Lump...

Conceal isn't the problem, it's your shitty game design around stealth missions.

>>172137313
A perk that is basically "lol fuck you enemies im gonna scout instead" is kind of powerful to be honest.
But IMO if lump decides to move it so high up there should be an alternative to it. Perhaps uses both actions but on a timer instead of one time use.
Also, according to xavier there is a lot less stealth in 1.3 as opposed to 1.2

>>172138210
>Also, according to xavier there is a lot less stealth in 1.3 as opposed to 1.2
Is that just because they are putting the smash and grab missions into rotation, or are there other reasons?

>>172138210
They could just change Ghostwalker to be a 1-2 turn conceal along with the 40% detection radius reduction and make it so you can't use it when already concealed. Would certainly be a nerf to Ghostwalker scouts in a way.

>>172092051
Whats up with MCride?

>>172138210
Conceal isn't THAT good, the shinobi can just fuck off and scout anyways with phantom and especially with ghostwalker. They only get revealed due to sloppiness or needing them to shoot/sword. Conceal gives you one freebie shadowstrike (once you get it) for an engagement, before going back to stealthing.

Is that really so as strong a perk as something like street sweeper or serial?

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>tfw

>>172139579
Wow nice

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R8 these assholes

>>172142025
nice band /10

>>172139579
>'BETA'
sounds about right kek

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Pouches and pouch accessories coming soon to a Steam Workshop near you.

>>172145030
All of those actually look really nice

>>172138656
This could actually be pretty good. Would have to nerf shadowstrike when using it but otherwise a pretty good choice for scouts that dont just stay concealed the entire mission

>>172135178
What's the point of demolition needing so much ammo? You're only ever going to use it in high-cover.

>>172147353
people think gunners are OP on pavonis forums, so the solution has been to make HoB and demolition cost 5 ammo. I'm sure eventually every gunner skill will need an elite expanded mag to use.

>>172147689
Well, as long as they don't nerf my precious Rangers, I'm good.

>>172147818
The forum groupthink undervalues rangers and assaults imo, so you're all good.

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>>172104458
There are advent armors that don't show the soldier's face? Holy shit where, that was my one grip with the design.

>>172148074
It's like they've forgotten entirely about critfantry.

>>172142025
>>172145030
what are those armours?

>>172145030
Excellent

>>172145030
Amazing anon, been cool following you make these

Fucking vanilla tier 2/3 armours man

>>172147689
> so the solution has been to make HoB and demolition cost 5 ammo
and that's a problem how?

also how will they nerf hail of bullets?

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>>172145030
Are canteens included? Hydration is important.

>>172150838
now costs 5 ammo for each point of damage

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I'm never going to complain about xcom RNG ever again, after playing this piece of shit xcom is a goddamn walk in the park.

>A literal dice roll to decide if you're too retarded to even use your turn.

>>172151519
this desu

>>172138731
GETGETGETGETGOTGOTGOTGOT

>>172152054
Sounds like a D&D campaign.
Which is why I don't play D&D

>>172154328
>>172152054
I'm a big fan for healthy doses of "dice rolls are for when the outcome is actually in question."
Which means no dice rolls for tying your shoes if you've been tying your shoes your entire life.

>>172154328
I'm sorry you've never had a good DM. Sincerely, I am.

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>>172152054
mordheim was fun
remember to keep a wizard with your ogre!

>>172153485
FACE OF A WOMAN
TEARS OF A CHILD

>Somebody makes several compatibility patches between LW2 and the Celatid mod
>The Celatid creators get it taken down for 'theft'

wew lad

>>171999746

I can't believe I didn't notice until yesterday that their 'bodies' don't actually exist at first, there's only that crystal that proceeds to materialize the body in when it spots you

It's a little strange that every XCOM has had a weird energy-based alien that defies the laws of physics. Makes me wish the original version of The Bureau with the creepy monolith aliens was still a thing

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>he uses mixed-gender squads

>>172159605
will xcom3 have more than two genders?

>>172160207
Are viper waifus with HUGE tits a gender?

>>172158649
You serious? If I were them I'd either let that patch be or ask if we could include their patch into the main mod and credit them.

>>172160550

They're too hung up on the fact that the guy didn't ask the other modders for permission. Even though the patches were dependent on the original mods and all he did was just make them play nice with LW2

>>172160207
If you count the aliens, Xcom has always had more than two genders

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>>172145030

Might actually enjoy wearing T3 now.

>>172161547
Christ almighty. How big of an ego do you need to have to not realize that a compatibility patch will do nothing but good things for you?

>>172159605
>jumping to conclusions about gender
Maybe they identify as something else than their birthgender you cishet bigot.

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>>172160207
ONLY TWO GENDERS JIM-BOY

>>172162349
Daaaad, are you really going to tell me about the Jews again?

>>172162143
Especially that many of their mods are ports from other games. Thats actually stealing someones content.

>>172162662
No Jimbo, It's not Tuesday yet!

>>172159247
They're actually Doritos™ Brand Metaphysical Advertisement Entities.

>>172156754
Ride voice pack when?

>kills target
"You're fit to learn the proper meaning of a beatdown"
>gets hit
"Oh shit i'm feelin' it!"
Etc

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Did 4chan went down for like a minute?

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>Walking down the street trying to infiltrate.
>See a dirty collaborator with a disgusting snake wife and their degenerate kids.

How would you react?

>>172170227
pull out my sidearm and pop two caps into the snek and then gutshot the father. Finally, I execute the child with a point-blank shot to the head, after pausing briefly and staring the father in the eyes

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>>172170227
Inform them they are in the wrong universe.

>>172170227
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong world

>>172160207

I don't think they want that kind of risk.

>>172174357
>33% to use the right pro-noun

>>172170227
sweep that street

snex are not for sex, they are for target practice

No ded
https://youtu.be/cas9d60l3kM

>>172175526

Miss

>>172139579
let's fr*ckin' go baby

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>>172182670
>>172139579
forgot pic

What magic is lW2 running on?
My toaster runs vanilla with 5-10 fps, with LW2 on in getting 15-25 fps average (despite the longer load times)

OpenApocalypse is looking for coders.

>>172184725

They are trying to fix Jake's game.

So I'm on the second month in LW1 and I made the mistake of taking on a landed supply ship.

I managed to defeat every pod until the last one. Five Outsiders plus a Thin Man.

What do? Should I abort?

>>172187152
Do you have any flashbangs left? What's your squad composition? How many shotguns do you have?

>>172187475

>How many shotguns do you have?

Yeeeeeah about that. I have an Infantry, Gunner, Medic, Rocketeer, Engineer and a SHIV.

If I abort the mission, does the UFO disappear? Can I not send in a different squad if I do that?

>>172187639
Damn, you should've given the medic a shotgun a least. I myself like would've run the mission with a Scout and Assault in lieu of a rocketeer and SHIV.

As far as aborting the mission, I actually have never done that so I dunno.

>>172187948

I've been using the SHIV to scout ahead so the rest of the team doesn't get fucked by the two chrysallid pods. It probably would've been able to help out at the end had a floater pod not fucked it up

>>172188076
Don't get me wrong, SHIV's are useful for sure. I just like classed soldiers more than a bullet sponge.

>>172170227
Give him a knowing smile and maybe a wave, before looking over at my snake waifu and giving her a big kiss and a handholding.

>>172188954
anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snek

>>172191924
Completely right, Beserker real best waifu.

>>172186208
I really hope they get them.

Don't die, there might be an expansion announced any day now

>>172196175
we could start a flamewar

>>172196945
Start a nuclear flamewar?

Why would I play Long War if I don't like hard?

Are the classes that good?

>>172197436
More ayys more tech more missions more soldiers more depth more everything

You can ini edit and use second wave options to make the game easier too.

>>172197436
Use Friendly Skies + Cinematic mode + normal difficulty and its basically vanilla +

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It's finally here! The mod no one asked for! Tacticool Warden Gear with pouch and pouch accessories.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892409062

The mod is not finished, right now there are no female versions for any of the new pieces for example but i wanted to release something soon because after Nier Automata was done eating my life i found out that the last Dark Souls 3 DLC comes out on the 28th, so that'll probably also eat my free time. In any case, hope you like it.

>>172151519

There are no canteens, i hadn't thought about it to be honest. Maybe i'll make one, but no promises.

One of the worries i have right now is that there are already a lot of armor pieces in the mod.

>>172202981
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892409062
Thanks man

>>172202981
Excellent my man. Helmets are a neat bonus I wasn't expecting.