/twg/ - Total War General

1st for war dogs

>>171925291
When the warboss has loads to eat and doesn't take you for a snack.

Why are gobbos so fun to play? They are like non-lame orcs.

>>171925291
Patch Notes:

The Total War: WARHAMMER multiplayer leaderboards have been reset.
A 5% score penalty will now be applied to users caught drop-hacking from multiplayer battles (disconnecting under suspicious circumstances).
Fix for users becoming unable to save the game, after the last chapter mission is completed on Legendary difficulty.
Fixed a missing building chain in the Grung Zint settlement.
All income types from Farming/Industry bonuses are now being applied correctly to all resource buildings.
Fixed a rare crash when disbanding Heroes on the campaign map.
Fix for Guardians of the Lady skill giving magic resistance instead of missile resistance.
Fix for Gelt's Pegasus unlock level.
Fix for inconsistency between Strigoi and Ghorst spells and the main lore spells.
Chivalry is no longer gained for torturing people in during Quests.
Updated garrison for Couronne and removed wall building chain.
Various text, game guide and localisation fixes.

Balancing Changes:

Questing Knights
- 8 Charge Bonus

Foot Squires
- 10 Leadership
- 6 Charge Bonus

Men-at-Arms
+ 25 Cost

Helman Ghorsts's Vanhel Danse Macabre
-1 Power Cost

Strigoi's Soulblight
+1 Power Cost

when TK come, Nagash will be just a RoR Hierotitan

>>171925291
will we finally get naval battles with the expansion?

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>>171925437
I never realized how good warbosses looked until I looked at them in 4k
>there are poor souls on /twg/ who cant handle 4k

>>171925513
yes
they will be so badly implemented you'll spit and spew and call CA names and swear it was better without them

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>>171925484
Orcs are better

>>171925513
I really hope not

I prefer those resources and effort into make the game great, such give dinstinctive look to stalia tilea and borders, make araby actually sandniggers and expand the small datamined new world map

>>171925513
yes
it'll be great, no matter the outcome.

>>171925513
I hope we can get good naval battles again, but if we don't get it I can always scratch my itch with the gunpowder games.

>>171925695
>give dinstinctive look to stalia tilea and borders
but they are not playable
they are not even major factions
they never pose any threat
they are wiped out as soon as they are turned attention to
what does it matter what they look like?

>>171925513
yes, hundred percent. They will advertise the Vampire Pirates heavily based on the naval combat. It's like two kinds of popular and edgy genre crammed into one single greater edge.

>>171925837
Are you kidding? I swear they are Estallia and Tilea are like 90% of the time among the last 5 factions in a campaign alive.
They're down there all.. UNCHALLENGED.

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Remember those fags that were all like "End of February guaranteed"
lel don't listen to this guy. It's going to be released well before September, he is not even a part of the team lelel
September 2017. Mark it down

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How is there no give region diplomatic option in TW

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>>171925291
Found this in preddit, looks like Rats will feed on some overgrown chicken this fall!

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FRIENDS, LOVED ONES.
THE JUNGLE IS UPON US, AND INSIDE IT ARE TREASURES BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION OR EVEN CARE.

LET US TAKE A VOTE.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12596412

>>171925964
well, yeah, but whoever you play they keel over the moment you look at them, especially in late game, when you have strong armies

they are inconsequential
there's little reason to ever actually fight them in the field - I autoresolve 90% of battles with them no matter who I play or what stage in the game it is
making them look unique is waste of resources

>>171925837
>they are wiped out as soon as they are turned attention to

They literally aren't since there's no one to threaten them.

>>171926129
I meant by players

>>171926129
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12596412

>They literally aren't since there's no one to threaten them.

Soon this will be different with skavenblight

>>171926114
I think they should genuinely be released as a tripack dlc with all 3, sharing units between them and slightly recoloured and altered bret and empire units why not.

>>171926090
Because diplomacy never worked well in Total War games before, and its better to have a battle focused game with as little diplomatic annoyances as possible. Most of the time the diplomacy system in TW games just screws you since it isn't as extensive as in Paradox games, and even there the diplomacy system tends to screw you badly.

>>171926178
I had a legendary Wurrzag playthrough where Tilea chimped the fuck out, conquered Border Princes and then stayed a thorn in my side for a very long while, sending 4 stacks to pillage my shit while I was away fighting Chaos. Those fuckers are masters of fighting against wrong people at the wrong times.

>>171926090
Yeah had some moments where I wanted to give Dwarfs my outposts as Wood Elves

>>171926256
Still, being able to colonise a town and then sell (or gift) it to the dude that holds the rest of it would be nice. Sometimes you want AI to survive and be your meat shield, but it never retakes it's ruined settlements.

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Where is History

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>>171925965

>>171925291
Is there any human society that lives in the Dark lands?

>>171926371
Maybe some Arabyfolk..?

>>171926337
In the past lmao

>>171926298
>playing Empire
>every human and dwarf faction is allied to each other fighting off Chaos and vamps
>Tilea declares war on me out of nowhere and splits the alliances in two
I make it a point in every new campaign to raze that entire peninsula. Border Princes and Estalia can burn too.

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So i just beat 4 campaigns in row in Warhammer and i think i want to have a break.
I tried to play Medieval 2 but i am probably burn out after all those campaigns i played in it (both in vanilla and various mods).

I have both Napoleon and Empire and i want to play something in that era, but i played Empire only for a while and Napoleon only on multi with friends. Any mod recommendations for them? Is there any mod for Napoleon to turn it into big scope game like in Empire? Or anything else worth downloading? Which one should i play? As who? Any roll charts?

>>171926103
Voted for bondage elves although i'm excited to play every race except High Elves.
but i'm most hyped for Ogres

>>171926207
Do you think Skavenblight will be part of Tilea province, or it will be the only settlement in its own province? How those elven provinces look like? I never played as them and didn't care about that when i burned their forest down.

>>171926446
>REKT

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>>171926605
ayou already have skavenblight province ingame as unpassable terrain just like athen loren pre-worst elves patch.

So runesmiths for the dwarfs are best put in armies as opposed to overworld agents?

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>>171926351

Can you guys suggest a nice, non-horse based (Horde is fine though), faction or two in Attila?

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Stop playing fantasy

>>171926605
>Ogre hype
My nigga, I don't even know why.

Monstrous mounts maybe.

Do you think Skaven with have ANY cavalry?

>>171926915
ERE and WRE

if you have charles try the danes, very fun campaign

>>171926986
Big fat hun inspired monsters eating everything they come across, their worship and magic is quite literally just eating shit.
Maneater agents, pet gobbos, rhino mounts etc. Scraplauncer.

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SETTRA
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>>171926915
I've just been enjoying a Lakhmid campaign, armoured camels will fuck your enemy up. Infantry is pretty solid if a bit limited.
Other end of the world is Franks.

>>171927049
they ain't got in tabletop, why would they in TWW? they got enough units in the da book

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>>171926103
>No one even remotely excited for High Elves

AHHA! AHAHAHAHHAHA!

>>171927049
hamster wheels, and more rats of all sizes

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>>171926103
>reddit rats and tumblr toads in the lead
>not a single shit given about high elves

>>171927192
Curious on if theres any fluff that would support CA conjuring some up.
>>171927216
motherofgod

>>171927192
>>171927275
okay, I forgot - they had "great pox rats" in tabletop, which were mounts for warlords and plague priests, but sucked so hard nobody ever took them, so no wonder they didn't come to mind

but there's that precedent, yes. but Skaven need no cavalry. they goot DOOMWHEELS.
and Rat Ogres.

>>171927245
where's that screenshot from?

>>171927049
>>171927192
I can imagine them mutating some rats no one likes even less than usual into feral cavalry and then riding them into the enemy

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>>171927245
>Reddit rats and tumblr toads
>Muh high elves

>>171927373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azOvRwrqz2M

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>People think wood elves were annoying
You haven't seen anything yet

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MARIIIIIIUUUUUSSSSS

>altdorf
>leitdorf
>akendorf
>bordeleaux
>mousillon

do they really think that those mangled words look cool? are CA designers 13 years old? I'd fully expect to Xs and Zs in half the names this way
is there any mods that change that leetspeek (or whatever its called) into proper
>olddwarf
>latedwarf
>fuckendwarf
>bordello
>mouselion

?

>>171927736
whut

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>>171927736

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>>171926103
NO MORE VAMPIRES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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hey guys, haven't played since before Grombrindal.Anything significant changed?

>>171928010
there are pirate vampires in new world thou

>>171927736
We both know you're shitposting but if some reason someone doesn't know, dorf is german for village.

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>>171927736

>>171927736

First of all it might help to note that CA has come up with exactly zero of the place names in this game, this is all GW fluff that's decades old at this point.

It is also worth nothing that "Dorf" is German for "Village" and that the Empire is a patische of the Holy Roman Empire, i.e. Germany.

And finally, the most pertinent fact, you're fucking stupid.

>>171927736
If you think that's stupid take a look at Age of Sigmar.

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>>171926963
But Varg, i would want to play historical. Just recommend me something >>171926605

>>171927736
This is what happens when you let unchecked autism post in threads

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>>171926103
I'm hoping they at least get some unique models

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What the fuck is wrong with the sea jews?

>>171928526
He who controls the sea controls the world.

>>171928614
>laughing steppe nomads

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Finished my first TWW campaign. BRETONNIA STRONG

>Razed all of Norsca
>All evil factions btfo from the map
>Total income 6 407 668

>>171928679
>All evil factions btfo
But anon, Wood Elves are still there.

>>171928679
>evil factions btfo from map
>elves still there

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what's the presence of little bearded cunt and orcs in new world? I guess there are orcs in the north of de terrain, but I don't recall any stunties there

>>171928646
Horse don't have naval warfare mode mongol.

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This is your saurus for today.

>>171928753
Stunties are only within the Karaz Ankhor, which is in the World's Edge Mountains, Grey Mountains, and Darklands. There are savage orc tribes in Lustria though.

>>171928826
Saurus a day keep Chaos away!

>>171928826
Useless subhumans
Only good for boots

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>bring artillery into range of the enemy
>they just stand there and don't move off their hill

N-Nani? Have I just been fucking outskilled?

>>171928720
>>171928741
Touche I suppose. Felt bad about destroying them desu.

They eventually declared war on Dwarves, so I had to go to war with them, but I spent like 300k on a peace treaty + vassalization deal instead of wiping them out.

>>171928753
There has been reports of a whole WAAGH disappearing when it entered the jungles.

Stunties? I am not sure, maybe we get to see some lost Dwarfs.

>>171928851


so no stunties in new world? shame.

>>171928040
They've added in Bretonnia, if you haven't yet go to the steam store to add them.

Also Vlad has his own faction now with his GF leaving manlet and the two necromancers on their own.

Other than that it's mostly been the usual buffs and nerfs in the patches.

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>Post you face when there is a small human outpost in the west coast of Lustria.

>you click on it because you don't have a fucking clue what it could be

>the little human model resemble to something you played before

it's shogun 2 model imported into TWW, Samurai army from nippon is settle there

>>171928923
AI does that sometimes. Its in fact abuseable.

The AI obviously has a threat meter when it comes to ranged, as well as a benefit meter for staying in advantageous locations.

Sometimes if you only run up a single ranged unit into range, the AI wont feel threatened enough to move from their advantageous position, so they'll just take the pounding. Then you can cycle that unit out and put in a new one and rinse and repeat.

>>171928826
I want to pet him

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>Ogre Kingdoms still not announced

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>>171928826
>Gobbos v Skinks
Clash of the midgets soon

>>171929294
You do realise they're going to be one of the last races to be added, simply due to the ogre kingdoms location and overall importance right?

>>171929294
They got announced literally a year ago

All rulebook factions are confirmed

Please stop fucking saying factions are 'unannounced'

>>171927549
what mod changes faction leaders like that?

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It was at that precise moment, Hans realized his son wanted to pursue a career as an artist in Averheim, instead of enrolling in the Gunnery School of Nuln like his father, and his father before him.

>>171929450
What's the source on all rulebook factions?

Not that guy, and I believe you, I just want to see the context and wording, for my own curiosity.

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Ok so this is amazing. Week ago someone was posting "secret" news that next TW was shown behind the doors and it will be revealed on 31 and it will be Lustria. Now week later we got this on TW site. You can even see some aztec/lizardman building.

>>171927107
Truly da best

>>171928939
>Felt bad about destroying them desu

Why on earth would you feel like that.

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>>171927493
>dragons
>millions and millions of dragons
Unlimited butthurt will flow through /twg/ when the true air force arrives

>>171929592
The post they did on the forums about everyone getting butthurt about chaos being DLC

They said something along the lines of
>if we do all the factions, all the units we need to (blah blah excuse as to why chaos was dlc)

>>171927736
Are you that guy who spend ages in /twg/ arguing that Altdorf was a joke about dwarves?

>>171929623
you're late senpai

>>171929807
i really hope they don't make dragons balanced in any way, shape or form. just really fucking expensive, and awesome.

>>171929807
Not just dragons, but the fact that high elves are a "good at everything" faction that are normally limited by funds, but the AI won't have trouble fielding armies of 19 white lions or phoenixes/dragons

>>171929918
may have been
not sure about "ages", but I did make a post like that once

>>171929961
let's be honest here

without mods, they're going to spam their levy unit and six artillery pieces.

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>>171929445
Yeah i know
but i want them now

>>171928679

>Letting Empire savages have a single acre of Bretonnian clay

absolutely_unchivalrous.png

You should be ashamed

>>171930074
Heard that mods that open settlements up to 10 slots fixes that. AI cant into making proper military bases without it.

>>171929892
Just found it, thanks for your directions.

"In the case of Warhammer, we want it all. All the races. All the units . All the magic. As authentically as we can possibly make it. With the best possible TW gameplay in there too."

This is not confirmation. Why on earth does anyone think it is?

Do you think that every missing unit from the current races is confirmed too?

>>171930312
>we want it all
>All the races

>All the races

>All the races

>ALL
>THE
>RACES

Yes anon, I agree. They are going to stop selling faction DLC, one of the most profitable things CA has ever made.

You have to be a real idiot to think CA are going to ignore any of the factions. Skipping a few units here and there is a cost/benefit for them, but skipping a whole rulebook faction is literally just lost money.

>>171930312
Probably not every missing unit, some things like snotling wagons and swarms are kind of weird and would probably not get in over other units which are easier to implement (of which there are a lot, like the dozens of named characters hanging around the place)

>>171930440
>>171930443
>all the units
>all the races
Of course all the races are confirmed and they're not going to bother with the units, how could I possibly think otherwise.

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>>171929942
Forest Dragons are already pretty good, bad against anti large but can take on pretty much anything else well.

These dragons, particularly the star dragons, are a huge step up from that. CA cant get around it, they will have to be ultra powerful.

Or you can just mod it yourself after all, unit stat changes is easy.

>>171929592
I don't know of any links and I'm too lazy to look them up right now but they've already said Warhammer is going to be a trilogy of games (that will be standalone but merge together to for to make a mega grand campaign.) covering all the tabletop factions from 8th edition.

So yes they're coming it's just a matter of time.

If things go as people are speculating then sadly Ogre Kingdoms will probably be on the butt end of the list but they will happen.

>>171930521
How can you be such a naive faggot?

>>171930521
Snotlings deserve to have their pimp wagon though.

>>171930664
I don't disagree that they're likely to be released, you stupid cunt. That doesn't make a vague "yeah everything sure whatever" into a confirmation for any specific race.

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>Need faction that crosses the sea from the old world attacking Ulthua.

>>171930809

IS Skarsnik a TRICKSY enough to sail to Lustria?

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>>171929142
I see, thank you

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Christ, how am I going to fight this?

They aren't leaving either.

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why why did it come to this

>>171931363
>Not getting both Grom and Skarsnik.
>Fattest and Tricksiest gobbos of all time.

>>171931668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW93CV6m-JU

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>>171931658

Wish me luck lads, I'm going in!

>>171931754
GREENSKINS VACATION.
Skarsnik, Grimgor, Wurzag and Azhag

It's basically The Hangover but with more killing.

>>171931936
good luck!
you're a true dawi, with a long beard and no fear
kill those green faggots dead

>>171931658
>>171931936

Easy win desu

>>171930747
It isnt vague at fucking all. Thats why youre a naive idiot.

>>171931936
>quarrelers instead of rangers in a belegar army

>>171930747
They did tweet ages ago that they were going to put all 16 armybook races in

Are there any mods that make playing Chaos actually fun?

>>171932495
Seeing as they are a horde faction its impossible to make them fun

>>171932545
why couldn't they just make Chaos a (semi) normal faction? they have cities in fluff, and there are norscan towns in game

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>>171928826
Nicest saurus you'll ever meet... or twisted fucking psychopath?

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*runs past you*
*sacks your hold*
*keeps running further than you can in a turn*

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Rollin' my dudes

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>Badlands bowl won, Border Jews and western stunties ded...time to go north and spread da WAAAAAAGH

>every Vamp human settlement is already razed....Empires got like 1 town left in Nordland

Fug. Kinda kills my fun/motivation to finish the campaign

Dead map isn't a fun map. Razing was a mistake.

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>>171933224
*installs mod that increases movement on home turf*
*catches a kills your green ass*
*wipes you off the map by taking your last hold*

>>171932495

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691510785

Not enough but its a start

>>171933413
>install mod making an already easy game even easier
in the book you go

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>>171931936
>>171932040
>>171932139
>>171932404

KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT-HAAAAAAA

>>171933529
brutal!

>>171933498
It doesn't make the game easier though. It just allows the player to actually do something about the quadrillion beastmen, ork and norscan raiders.

>>171933643
you're only bullshitting yourself here m80

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>>171933529

>741 grudges settled

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My uncle is CA and he has confirmed the following:

The expansion will include only Dark Elves, High Elves and Lizardmen. Skaven are DLC. Next up is Tomb Kings followed by Ogre Kingdoms and finally Chaos Dwarfs.

>>171933498

I'm all about piling on our manu shitters and normal babbies in TWG but 'Total War:Tag!' is pretty lame.

Of course ambush stance and blocking agents are the proper way to do it.

>>171933529

May as well post veteran Principes slaughtering levy spears

>opponent has too many stacks for me to handle
>expand army, but now I can't afford upkeep
>expand territory, build income
>but now my territory is too big for me to defend
>territories get razed, can no longer afford upkeep
>downsize army
>now opponent has too many stacks for me to handle
How the fuck do I deal with this

>>171933923
People will throw a gigantic fit if Skaven are DLC
It makes sense that the next game would have 4 races in it at the start, same as the first game

>>171934031
You git gud and use your armies more efficiently than the AI does
Win uphill battles, bait the opponent into unfavorable engagements to waste their manpower, then wreck their shit

>>171933923
My father-in-law is Mr. CA himself and he says your uncle is a faggot and a liar.

>>171934076
>People will throw a gigantic fit if Skaven are DLC
Because thats why we got chaos as a non-DLC faction right?

Because people wouldn't tolerate such a central faction being DLC.

>>171934031
Lightning strike and ambushes. If used well you can rout 2-3 full enemy stacks in a single turn.

>>171934226
Because selling the game with 3 main races instead of 4 makes no sense and you're just trying to argue your shitty hypothetical scenario without anything but your MUH DLC bias to back it up with.

>>171933923
>>171934183

My biracial wife's son(male) works in the CA café and has confirmed skaven as the protagonists and first faction in volume 2

>>171934226
Did you not see the tremendous amount of butthurt over the whole chaos warriors thing or something

>>171933923
Unfortunately, we already have confirmation that the expansion will contain four factions baseline.

>>171933529
>>171933854

What'd I say you bloody beardling

Ghost dads and Dwarf armor too strong, it was always gonna be an easy victory.

>>171934365
I'm not that anon, I agree that there are probably going to be 4 main races in the new game, I just wanted to point out how the fear of consumer backlash hasn't stopped CA from having major factions as DLC

>>171934408
I did, but I also saw that it achieved absolutely nothing.

>>171934408

That was 90% because it was 'opening day DLC' which always feels like a rip. If skaven got introd later people would shekel up

IM HPYED

>>171934527
I dunno, it did make it free for everyone for week 1. That's at least something however small.

Will Warhammer 2 be a standalone game, or will it be an expansion to TW:W?
If I only own TW:W, will I be able to play with W2 players?
How much do TW games normally cost on release?

>>171934724
NO ONE KNOWS
IM SO HYEPD

>>171934724
>Will Warhammer 2 be a standalone game, or will it be an expansion to TW:W?
Both

>>171934724

>Will Warhammer 2 be a standalone game, or will it be an expansion to TW:W?

Both

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>>171925504
ETA on the new patch?

>>171933409
There are mods on the workshop that help with this.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693487556
This will make them raze less often unless they're chaos or beastmemers.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=692360500
This one will make them more likely to colonize ruined settlements.

Now remember, Always Kill Marienburg Shitters.

The only gameplay mods I have installed alter diplomatic affinity so that factions of the same race are more inclined to cooperate and the Wood Elves play defensively. Is this cheating or not? I think it just makes more sense.

>>171934842
The beta is already out.

>>171934842
I think it's available right now as a beta, so sometime next week perhaps?

Let's hope CA didn't accidentally give foot squires +10 leadership.

>>171934651
So the end result of everyones anger was a temporary demo for some DLC.

>>171935446
>Temporary demo
No, you got it for free if you bought it in the first week rather than strictly being a preorder bonus

>>171926714
>you already have skavenblight province ingame as unpassable terrain
Yeah, but they'll have to add some more provinces there to make it more interesting.

So when are we getting that new big old bretonia map?

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>>171935535

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>>171935031
The diplomacy system in this game isn't as bad as prior titles, but it's still pretty fucking dumb. Don't feel bad about using a mod that makes it less retarded.

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>>171927107
Settra & Malekith best bros

>>171936526

Wait, Sartosa is a Tilea city?

I thought it was some unaffiliated pirate haven or something.

>>171936646
Maybe different points in the timeline

>>171936646
>>171936845
Raid was Year 451 (top left corner)
It's now Year 2500 or something

so got king and the warlord and trying these gobbos and their objective is half the map away?
I like night gobs but the rest are shit, and 2 turns in the dorfs call in a welf faction against me

>>171937307

>I like night gobs but the rest are shit

Just get all the lord buffs for gobbos and they'll wreck everyone's shit.

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>we may never get to play a new total war game featuring Prussia

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So is this going to be a warhammer sequel or expansion?

>>171937710
An expansion which can be played standalone but the map will tie into the Old World if you have the original game.

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>>171937510
Meme Prussia > Real Prussia

>>171937791

>reiklander scum
>prussian

Not my Emperor

>>171937791
False emperor franz please go

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>>171928826
Laser Ashigaru Levy, at the ready, S'ah!

>>171925513
Nope, they've stopped development on Naval Combat. They've even ditched the naval unit cards.

>>171937791
>""""""""Empire"""""""""" consists of Hoveldorf, a literal village at the start of the game

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>>171938191
If true this is rather disappointing. I never like it when studios give up on promising features in their games, and naval combat with proper care and attention paid to it could have been a nice addition to the game.

>>171937791

Friendly reminder that Sigmar built a Reik that lasted 2500 years

Sigmar>Hitler
Sigmar>Otto von Bismarck
Sigmar>Otto the >Great
Sigmar>Charlemagne

>>171938686
It would have required the work of every naval combat mechanic from every past game combined. I can see why they're not doing it.

Sylvania has most beautiful battlefields.

>>171933923


this is exactly how I imagine looking into the warp would be, only with a bathtub full of frogs in different colours+toothy jaws and tentacles

>>171938706

>built a 'Reik'

Sigmar made rivers? What are you on about?

>>171926787
Their blue capstone skill is a bonus to assassination chance, but the buffs they bring embedded into an army are too good to pass up.

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Listen man-things, Great Horned Rat speaks through me!
>lizardment
>Delves
>Helves
>Hybrid faction of Conquistadors, pirates and Amazons as stand in for human-things
>Skaven as pre-order DLC

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>>171939930
CA did say that there will be a base 4 factions available on launch just like the first game.

1.) Lizardudes
2.) HElfs
3.) DElfs
4.) ???

After the Warriors of Chaos debacle i don't think Skaven are going to be pre-order DLC and its the best option right now for a 4th launch faction. Pre-order enticement should be an alternate start.

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>>171938734
Oh I get it, I do. It's just that the last few total war games have had rather disappointing naval combat at best. This series of games could have been a glorious return to form for CA with this feature. I mean, the naval combat in Empire and Napoleon was at least ok and was sometimes actually pretty fun.

>>171939930
Skaven have already been confirmed on the Reddit by devs.

>>171940212
ooo i forgot about pre-order dlc.

Maybe that'll be something nifty.

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>playing Grimgor
>first item he gets is a health potion

Time for grudges.

>>171940329
You would think that shit would be more common, but getting one is like winning the lottery.

Lord lottery.

Lordttery.

I'll see myself out.

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>>171940227
Naval is dead because nobody played it. CA has the stats to prove it. They see no benefit to spend at least as much resources as it takes for land battles to make something that only 1% of players care about.

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I want gear options and changing weapon models.

Its ridiculous I have to re-recruit to get a damn shield or swap a weapon

Why is Broken Crescent so retarded with its balance? I watched one unit of Ayyubid Axemen kill to a man 2 Skutatoi, 1 Sparthatoi, 1 Vesterati Swordsmen and two Pike units. WTF.

>>171940427
I wonder what the stats were for Empire, Napoopan and FotS which actually had good (and important) naval battles.

>>171931668
How is his command only 2 being a conqueror and superior commander?

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>>171940758
It was worse.

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>>171940427
Using the game with the absolute worst naval combat in the entire fucking series isn't a fair comparison.

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Is this a war crime?

>>171941021
wtf. I wonder if people just sucked at it and never bothered to learn because it was different than land battles.

>>171941134
gobbo defector volunteer is all

>>171941134
Your graphics settings certainly are

>>171940635
>Its ridiculous I have to re-recruit to get a damn shield or swap a weapon

?

>>171941134
Dunno, he look like he's enjoying himself.

>>171941134
Nobody has signed anything so no law is being broken.

How does an Averlander tell the difference between his cattle and his wife? He can't!

What faction allow me to be gay ?

>>171941285
at least I can play at 60fps with ultra unit sizes at those settings

>>171940427

Stop responding to a trip fag

>>171941404
Wood Elves

>>171937510
I'm hype for Total War: 1648

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>>171941294
Eternal guard ---> Eternal guard... with shields

Men at Arms ---> Men at arms... with shields

Spearmen ---> Spearmen... with shields

Ungors, ungor spear herd, dwarf warriors to dwarf warriors GW

If there is a way to change unit and character equipment and pay a fee and change in upkeep it would greatly cutdown on the recruitment clutter and make armies much more adaptable to the current threat.

Also could enable certain special rules for units that carry more than one weapon to battle.

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>>171941134
Yes. Da stunty oppressahs 'ave violated da Badlands Convention wif dis pointlessly cruel and ingoblane lobba. I fink dey needs ta check dere stunty privilege an give us all dere teef as reparations or we'll use da lot of em as squig bait.

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>>171941067
Napoleon has worse stats. >>171941021
Empire and Shogun 2 don't have an appropriate achievement to compare.

And how the fuck does Shogun 2 list me as having earned the 20 naval multiplayer battles achievement when I haven't played even one?!

>>171941294

I assume he means going from unit X to unit X w/great weapons or shields or whatever?

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>>171941134
No because gobbo lives literally do not matter. Their main purpose is to die, either at the hands of other greenskins or at the hands of humans and dwarfs.

Fuck goblins, they exist to be slain by their betters.

>>171941134
>>171941307
look into his eyes.

he isn't enjoying this.

>>171941664
Quick question, why are you wearing a trip?

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>>171941404
Chaos. Pick Sigvald. You even get to fight buff nearly naked bearmode vikings all day.

>>171940212
what if it's kislev, estelia or teilia?

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>>171933378
What shall we play as tonight Brain?

>>171941886
Oh boy, here we go again.

>>171942030
>Not new world, not new world, not new world.

The game has to stand by itself and those would require the first game.

>>171926371
There's the Hung, Mongol inspired Chaos Warrior tribes analogous to the Norse tribes of the Old World.

>>171942190
Estalia has colonies.

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>>171940212
1. Estelia
2. Pirate Vampires
3. Grom the Paunch
4. New World Chaos Warriors

Pre-Order Bonus:
1. Konrad Von Carstein

DLC:
1. Lizards
2. Skaven
3. High Elves
4. Dark Elves

>>171933378
Rollin' too.

How much was Warhammer on launch? $60?

>>171942667
anon why do you have that picture saved

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>>171941886
For various reasons most of which would cause a thread derail if I mentioned them here. Anyway, keeping this on-topic, I've heard some good things about the Steel Faith Campaign Overhaul, would you recommend that mod?

>>171942695
£39.99 in real money I think if you didn't shop around over here.

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Is it normal for fights against evenly matched armies to be really messy and violent?

Been playing some Napoleon lately and every fight I get into is either an overwhelming victory against a smaller opponent and or a bloody mess where I win by the skin of my teeth.

It's fun, sure, but I can't tell if that's normal or if I need to git gud

>>171933378
Please give me something.

>>171940427
Tbh the lack of need for a navy made it rare
When you can just load an army onto the sea and cross to any island in one turn you don't really need to spend out to protect your transports. Empire had it right, as navies could control trading posts that brought in exotic dosh (should have made whale oil in the north Atlantic desu)

>>171942776
$40?
Do expansions normally cost the same? Surely they won't charge another full $40 for the second one.

>>171942605
Southern Realms without the actual states they are from would be stupid to play as. Not only that but having such minor nations as anything other than space occupiers is a waste of a DLC slot let alone a launch faction slot.

Kislev has the best chance of any to be a real faction and that would be during the chaos expansion.

>>171942778
Gunpowder games are the ones with the most brutal kill rates if you don't use formations effectively and just put units one against the other

>>171942623
All things considered those first 4 are quite viable pre-order dlcs.

And Grom can be added to my "Maybe greenskin leaders one day" list, now you've reminded me.

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>>171942762
I'm not entirely sure anon, I discovered them on /pol/ of all places and have found a weird joy in them ever since.

>>171942848
No anon, £. Pound Sterling. It's like a dollar but used as currency outside of the USA.

I'd also be highly surprised if the game is not exactly the same price.

>>171942778
there's no such thing as a clean fight when 120 angry frenchies are shooting at 120 angry britbongs

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>>171942848
>Do expansions normally cost the same?
In a time long past games were $60 and expansions $30. But now with season pass and DLC bullshit, who the fuck knows...

>>171942939
anon that picture is really weird man I hope you're not one of *those* people

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>>171943047
I reckon (sage that I am) that as it's more of a sequel it'll be costed exactly the same as the base game.

>>171942667
no, on the basis that >>171942939 >have found a weird joy in them ever since.

Total War Arena Alpha 5 starts in an hour
New Capitoline Hill that wasn't in CA's alpha

>>171943147
What a fan of Red Dwarf?

>>171942931
I'd be totally ok with those as DLC.

>>171943162
>as it's more of a sequel it'll be costed exactly the same as the base game
No, it will be full price because that's how SEGA rolls. That's the one true reason.
>>171943290
Holy fuck, how did the new devs manage to fuck up the game so much? I mean technically, you couldn't even place your units correctly in Alpha 4 without fiddling in circles with the mouse.

The old CA/Steam version did NOT have these bugs.

>>171943314
Right?!
Hell pre-order dlc may be the most viable and realistic way to even add tallia, estelia and borderprinces.

>>171943393
>because SEGA
Also true

>>171943397
Certainly a humie conquistador faction would be rather fun, though I wonder how that'd interact with Estalia back home?

I'm firmly of the view that on a dev standpoint one humie faction per base game is a good idea.

>>171943547
definitely.

I don't know, maybe the faction is of a horde-mode persuasion and has to get treasures to send back home to get money and tech sent back.

>>171942765

I feel like I report you every day but you just won't go away

>>171927215
I don't give a shit about anything else but Best Elves
Time to make a new cloak sewn from stunty beards!

>>171942765
I don't see how these reasons could derail the thread anymore than maintaining a trip without a good reason. Why do we need to care who you are?

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>>171943917
>>171944649
The only thing you two are doing by making a big deal about me having a name and trip while discussing the game and posting screenshots is to make me laugh at your impotency.

Now, back to the topic at hand: Steel Faith Overhaul, yay or nay?

>>171933854
>>171933529

So how did you do it with so few losses? Camp in a corner?

>>171945003
It's definitely more than two mate.

Now then, why are you wearing a tripcode?

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FUCK
YES
I FINALLY DID IT
FUCK YOU, TREE NIGGERS

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>>171927215
>>171927245

What's the basic gestalt on High Elves? They seem kinda boring compared to the other factions, that have dinosaurs and monsters and shit. High elves just look like dudes with big shields and spears, a little underwhelming. I mean, they're kinda cool I guess. But not compared to the other factions.

>>171940427
Nobody played it cos it was boring as shit though.

In Warhammer it wouldn't be, though it would take waaay more work, because all the races would have such different ships.

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>>171938686
>>171938734
>>171940227
>>171940427

Also consider the fact that naval combat in Fantasy already has a boardgame, which is Man-O-War. It's fully possible that GW would allow CA to make naval combat a possibility even if they wanted to, since that may or may not include another IP.

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I will fight with you men!

>>171943917

Responding to a trip even to call him a retard is still responding to him. They don't stop if they keep getting yous.

Kind reminder,

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>>171945127
Like I said before, multiple reasons one of which I mentioned here >>171945003
Now, for the third time, is steel faith all it's cracked up to be or not?

>>171945214
One of the earliest up and coming races, thought themselves better than everyone else till the war of the beard where they underestimated the might of the dwarven empire. Leaving both nearly destroyed, and then obviously the splitting of the elves acourse. To be honest like most settings they're just dicks, interestingly enough though in the warhammer world they control the worlds greatest navy.

They're fun to hate, bureaucrats always are.

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>>171945190
>119399 beastbucks
Jesus fucking christ man, spend that money on something

>>171945296
I doubt CA still cares about a game from a dead IP like warhams fantasy.

>>171945214

>gestalt

So what fucking memeword did you bring from /pol/ this time.

>>171945351
You didn't post a reason there, just insulting people who are asking why you wear a trip.

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>>171943718
I reckon that'd be an awful lot of fun.

I'm rather hoping for lots of innovative new campaign mechanics for the new world.

Also
>Lizardman Jungle paths
>High Magic Paths
>Reddit upvotes
>slave paths?

>>171938075
>>171938124
Got to bed, Boris. Führer Franz will make Empire great again whether you like it or not.

>>171941175
I found that the naval battles had way too much micro-management with all the turning and managing the sails.

>>171945452

I think you underestimate the absolute clusterfuck that is Games Workshop.

>>171945612

I presume that Skaven will be able to use pathways as many others can, and I'm hoping for some mechanic regarding the four clans.

>Greenskin campaign
>Pushed back to Black Crag
> Dwarves, karak azul, all greenskin tribes except blood hands, border princes, vampire counts at war with me
>Try to bribe red fangs into a peace treaty with me
>Low chance, go to add in what little money I have
>See "Join confederation" is green
>Grab em, get 2 armies, 6 cities, and start turning the game around

Why the fuck did they want to confederate with me? I actually thought I was going to lose for the first time.

>>171945190
I found with dorfs that the wood faggots burn really well so I burned down their faggoty forest.

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>>171945452
>>CA
Whoops, should read GW there.

>>171945473
Ahh but that's wrong I did give a reason, although not explicitly. I love it when somebody gets all flustered about me calmly posting about these games while having my name and trip on. The tard rage from that idiot who posts drop trip over and over makes me highly amused. It's not the only reason, but it is one reason.

Now, for the fourth time.

Is steel faith worth a download?

>>171945214
They're basically just more defensive versions of Dark Elves with more dragons instead of monsters, nicer magic (possibly a greater emphasis on casters too) and better cav.

>>171945351
reeeee just say why you're using a trip

>>171945794
>be playing beastmemes in this >>171945190 campaign
>fuck up orion and his bitchboys in an ambush before razing the WE capital
>move on to their faggoty tree
>siege it, they start taking attrition
>suddenly WE confederates with every other elf faction in one turn and they all come to fuck me up

>>171941601
I cannot undersatnd why you wouldn't love the naval battles in Empire or Napoleon.
They were fuckign awesome, and they actually worked well enough with both small ships and large lines of battle.

Shogun 2 was a clusterfuck, FotS was a worse clusterfuck and Rome 2 was so generally awful that the hopeless idiocy of transport ships being the better warships in most cases doesn't even stick out all that much.


But you really don't have to look far to see a working naval combat system. Battlefleet Gothic shows that it can be done witha GW IP, too.

It's just that GW sold Dreadfleet/Man'o'War to somebody else.

>>171945627
If you used groups there was significantly less micro, so they were practically mandatory. You're right that there's a lot to keep track of in the larger engagements though, but some of it goes almost automatically after you've learned it properly. It takes some time to get to that point though, just like with land battles for newbies.

>>171945929
Sadly I think it's because he know's it's garuanteed (you)s so the best thing is just treat his posts on the basis of their content and ignore them.

>>171945959
>every other elf faction

But there's only one other faction?

>>171945850
>Is steel faith worth a download?

Balance is a hit or miss. Some units have been rightfully buffed, many have been retooled to act like they do in lore like Grail knights being just in a small group and so on.

It's worth a playthrough once or twice if you've gotten tired of vanilla. Vamps are insanely overpowered in it however.

>>171945629
Yeah but again, Warhams fantasy is dead, and so are all the spin-offs for it and GW has been all too willing to whore out it's IP to various companies if they think they can make some money off of it.

>>171945929
Don't reply, it's the same reason it's for everyone that don't actually need it: special snowflake syndrome.

>>171946038
There's 3-4, red shield icon, light green icon, treehitler and goat elf.

>>171946038
>argwyln or however you spell it
>findol
>some other faggy faction
In my game, each tree aside from the oak of ages and the standard WE capital was controlled by a different elf faction

>>171945257
>all the races would have such different ships
You're thinking specifically of Man O War, which was cool as fuck but is a licence that CA don't have. Not sure what the legality of it all is, precisely, but I don't think CA would be allowed to use the names and designs of the ships that existed within that game.

So either they have to acquire that licence or they acquire GW's blessing to design ships of their own.

Now since GW let them create some new units for Bretonnia, it's possible that they've been busy making new naval units - and hopefully, if that's the case, they haven't been copy-pasting too hard.

Can't fucking wait for Kroxigor Demigryph Knights (Grenade Launher)! BASED Radious will have a blast with this game!

>>171946145
I would have to read the actual terms of the license but I seem to recall someone saying that the devs of the Manowar game had claimed there was no issue.

Sadly naval combat adds basically bugger all to a TW game and the effort and time should be placed into improving the terrestrial gameplay.

>>171946076

And is CA willing to pay for a extra IP for a feature that won't even be that significant in the game? What would be the incentive for a Empire player to have a navy, when her foes are all neighbours and on land? And let's not forget the Chaos invasion, in what way would a navy help?

Naval combat in Warhams would be fun as fuck to have, and even if the implementation was good there would be very little reason to actually use it.

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>>171946048
Hmm, so is it still being worked on then? Vampire Cunts being more OP then they already are does not sound all that promising to me honestly. I do like units working closer to how they do in the background though. Maybe I'll try it after the patch.

>>171946462
>And let's not forget the Chaos invasion, in what way would a navy help?
Setting up a blockade as Bretonnia to keep the fucking Skaelings away would be really useful

>>171946462
and an insane headache to balance I might suggest.

While it would be awfully nice to sink Surtha Elk and his friends before they land on my shores, there's still an awful lot of game that's entirely land focussed.

>>171946634
In theory this could be done with autoresolvey boats.

Though I'd suggest what is more likely to happen is that the one squadron of rowboats the player can afford will chase Surtha round the sea of claws as he stays a micron out of engagement range while half a dozen other fleets nip across to eat their way to Marienburg.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>171946634
>implying they wouldn't just forced march past you just outside your fleet's range

>>171946264
>Not hyped for Longbeard Troglodon Riders (Throwing Axes)

>check out high & dark elf rosters out
>they are so fucking simillar
>the actual differences between them is mostly nuancey tabletop shit which wont translate well to TWW

Only difference in core is witch elves & xbows instead of bows

swordmasters of hoeth = executioners
phoenix guard = blackguard
cold one knights = dragon princes

High Elves get fancy phoenixes instead of hydras.

They both ride dragons and love magic.

>>171946983
>Throwing away a perfectly good axe
>grumble grumble
>younglings don't know the hardship.

>>171946983
I'm more excited for Doomwheel Durthu (Great Weapons)

>>171946615

Vamps are insanely powerful because there is no regen cap if I remember correctly, so deathballs will counter every single army in the game. Vlad is also total bonkers, more than usual.

Yes, the mod is still being updated. And yes, it's fun to play for variety. Now take off that trip you goddamn faggot.

>>171946765

Norsca needs to be split up in individual tribes like Aeslings and Bjornlings. Varg and Skaelings having all the lands gives them a ton of income to sustain armies. It makes no sense that the goddamn Norscans have the largest miliary.

Will there actually be any incentive to cross the sea into the new world and vice/verse as new world factions?

The only reason I can think is if Dwarfs get a random event grudge that forces you to start a war with high elves to settle it.

Or if they release Grom the Paunch and make it a campaign victory condition.

>>171946462
>>171946462
>>And is CA willing to pay for a extra IP for a feature that won't even be that significant in the game?
I wouldn't be surprised if they were honestly, this game has sold stupidly well and anything that can get them more money at this point would be highly tempting.

>>What would be the incentive for a Empire player to have a navy, when her foes are all neighbours and on land? And let's not forget the Chaos invasion, in what way would a navy help?
You're forgetting about the dark elves and their raids on the northen coasts of the empire, plus if and when CA adds the southern factions they will have significant uses for a navy due to at least one of them, estalia, having overseas colonies. I think the empire also has overseas colonies too, and the the fighting between the High and Dark elves includes no small amount of fleet actions.

Plus,

Dwarf Ironclads.

How can you say no to Dwarf Ironclads?

>>171947274
Crossing over to keep wiping out civilization as based beastmen

Most factions in Warhammer have something about them that makes them grim and dark compared to their equivalent in standard fantasy fiction. What is it for High Elves?

>>171946615
I just finished a campaign (well almost) with Vlad/Izzy with SFO and I can say that they are quite balanced. They are overpowered, sure, but it seems the AI recruits the proper units and we are able to get a good battle going on. Some stronger units made to have less creatures, and higher upkeep, so in the end you still need to bring lower tier units and they are still shit, so you need to strategize further.

What I do not get, however, and I don't know if this is also in vanilla or not, is how to win a battle when you are outnumbered or have the balance of power stacked against you.

It seems like the battle will favor the AI so much if the balance of power is against you, even when you place the right unit to counter theirs, the battle performance will be put against you for whatever reason, and thats why i kind of give up on my campaign.

Case in point, chaos hordes poured in. I attacked them first since they camped in my territory and raided me, but they were already at war with empire. At every opportunity, they always gun for me with the 4 stacks of doom.

I have vlad and izzy fight them with lightning strike, but even when i have the right units to counter them (monster vs. anti large, cavs vs axe infantry), it seems they are still losing badly (losing decisively, or combat even), when clearly they should win out. Not sure if this is an issue with the vanilla or not.

Can't even wonder how to get heroic win without cheesing the enemy AI.