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Official Website:
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Previous opponent >>171902080
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I LIVE BY THE SWORD
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Eris is 17 y/o and there is nothing you can do about it shadowpedos
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Anon >>>>> tripfag >>> avatarfag > every other attention whore
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Why is Tsubaki the best sword girl
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>>171924521
gonna be 3,5k vials in 1 week. that's why.
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Need a concede desu

46102
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>>171924582
>desu
Go find help on facebook tbqh with u senpay
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>>171924370
>le balanced slash'em n dash'em man
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How can i improve my control blood deck
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>>171924706
You remove your entire deck and add Albert, other followers and Tsubaki.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171924706
>fighter
??
if you're going to run shitty 2 drops, atleast replace them with useful ones like Unica or something.
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>gave shadow fly king
>then made a silver that trumps over him
>gave shadow nep
>then stopped giving her support while printing a silver that outright kills her
>gave shadow a desert rider
>she doesn't help in the slightest to make a shitty silver decent

What does cygames mean by this?
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>>171924582
thanks neptits
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>>171924706
You are joking, right?
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>>171924706
Start from scratch senpai
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>>171924778
>opponent has a full board
>its now 1/1s and he takes 5 damage
>and if he doesn't trade them, its another 5
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>>171924837
Fuck the fuck off sick mother fucker disease sack of god fuck
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ルナの勝ちだよ!
I also raped Rowen like 4 times.
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>>171924887
you forgot that Rune also take 5 damage
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>>171924706
Awesome free vials
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>>171924778
>>171924887
Don't those 1/1s also hurt you with their fire effect? It's hardly even a slowdown since they're basically 2/1s if they only go face.
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THIS WORLD AND THE NEXT ARE UNCHANGING
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>>171924967
Yeah, but if we are talking about daria, then rune going to 15 hp is less important than opponent going from 10 to 5
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>>171924706
If this is your first deck and you are seriously looking for advice:
Remove fighter, angel crusher, sword maiden and run anything that isn't them.
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>>171924956
You don't even have a dick for us Luna. You can kys nobody will midd.
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I'M GOING TO MARRY GOBLIN PRINCESS
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>>171925096
I'll fuck your ass while you do.
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>>171925096
Is there something about the sexual dimorphism of goblins that make their males look hideous, but their females cute?
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Is it just me or is Israfil a worse Fafnir?
>Have to attack to get the 2 damage
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>>171924706
Angel crusher is also Terrible, If you're going to run stat sticks, try our Mastema or putting in Call of Cocytus. Call has decent synergy with Limil's Way, healing you for 15 if you have an Evo. Remove nightmare, since you'll never be in vengence when it matters, and try to get 3x Revelation.
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>>171925135
Sahaquiel
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>>171925135
you use it with saha
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>>171925135
Combine with Sahaquiel, all of a sudden it's a 7 mana Salamander Breath that deals 2 damage to face while doing 10 to a single minion.
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>Play against Dorothy Rune with Seraph
>Manage to survive and then take out my Seraph
>Rope BM him as I slowly play out my winning combo

Is there a better feeling?
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>>171924521
Because I want to snuggle with her and rub her human horn while watching netflix and slaying inferno dragons for value
Seriously though, she's pretty fierce as basically 4 face for 1pp
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>>171924706
Until new expansion and Blood Moon don't ever count on going into vengance. Or at least don't base your deck around it. Control blood right now is more about healing as much as you can while answering your opponent and chipping them down until they die.
Or you win with bahamut if they do not have an answer for him.
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The retards went to sleep, huh
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>>171925056
Rude! But here's your dicklist.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/5?hash=2.5.63HPo.63EzY.63Ezi.6AtFs.6AtFs.63Fia.5zWmM.68_dm.63Ezs.63E-0.63E-A.6AtGA.6AtGK.6AtGK.63Fiu.6Aysw.5zWmW.61KvC.6Avhy.63E-e.63HQu.63MII.63MII.67370.675Yo.63HQk.63HQk.6AviG.6AviG.63Jsg
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/472822609.htm
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need a concede please:

22754
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>>171925503
>double cerb and morde
Did you blow a Cygames employee?
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>>171925503
Very random except
>2 cerbs
>2 khawy
>1 mords
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So...is there any reason why Control Blood loves to evolve their Bloody Mary when the board is empty?
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>>171924706
Angel crusher is literally suicide without dracomancer's rites and even then you're that much closer to deckout.

It's help a ton if you posted your legos+golds and vials.
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>>171925742
Harder for you to kill it with an evolve of your own?
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>>171925742
What rank? They might be holding on to the vain hope that you both have no hard removal or an offensively statted 5 drop.
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>>171925812
Well...when I play Seraph it doesnt matter much since I just use a sledgehammer or that gold 4 PP amulet anyway
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>>171925918
AA3 - Masters
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>>171925734
>Very random
it's a take two deck, what did you expect
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>>171925926
Olivia in hand, need to throw evo's.
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>>171925994
They're flying on a prayer then
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As a new player I'd it worth it to buy any of the new decks. I don't really care if I spend money or not. Just are the cards in it good/rare enough to spend money on or should I just grind missions and buy packs
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>>171925742
>6 from mary
>6 from wolf
>8 from whatever else like dire bond and 1 mana wraith
>turn 6 lethal
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>>171926116
Prebuilt decks value is worth it if you are going to actually play the cards.
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>>171926116
Premade decks are good value if you are talking about them. Forest/Blood are exceptionally good, while Haven one is average.

Buying packs is also a must tho.
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>>171926116
Just grind missions and dailies. Buying precon is just to complete missing legendaries or you just want alternate art of waifus.
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>>171926116
Maybe I'm jaded from trying to treat the game as something more than it is, but I'd say save it. Unless you want those golds/legend quickly
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I want to have aggressive femdom sex with Demonic Hedonist
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>>171925621
I only got to use Morde and Khawy once each but Cerb was definitely MVP. She allowed me to be aggressive and finish the games before turn 10, even though I could probably have just grinded my opponents out and outvalue them. I'm so fucking sick of getting hit by Satan and Albert dropping out of nowhere and steal my 5-0 even though I was in control every time.
>>171925734
Except for fillers like Minthe 1.0 and Minthe 1.5, all of the cards I drafted either provide good values, or are hard removals, or have low pp to fit the curve.
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Does anyone else get hard when she says "Don't hurt me!"?
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>play Take 2
>given no removal during draft
>go first every round
>every opponent has tons of removal

Fuck this mode, I'm done.
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>>171926291
Blood girls are for caring femdom and hugs. Haven bitches look like the kind that's into some hardcore shit
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Rip roachfucker. Baldy knows your weakness.
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>>171926291
I much rather some sword girl like White Paladin or Aurelia.
They act tough in the battlefield but are shy and caring in bed.
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>>171926517
kys dumb duck
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>>171926116
It depends entirely on the cards. There's 2 legos and 5 golds per prebuilt for an ~15 pack value.
There's a daily 50 crystal pack deal but if you went pack by pack on your starters, you'd know packs are hit and miss. We'll regularly go 20+ packs without a legendary then get 2 in 1 pack
The game is also flooded with free shit. You get about 14 packs a month from the login rewards, you get about 8 packs a week from missions. At any point you stop sucking at arena you make a killing on gold and packs to perpetual arena

Prebuilts and packs are basically just a speed boost. If you're not experienced with card games you should probably steer clear for a month to see if you want to stick with this especially as the meta crystallizes into only 1-2 decks that are vaguely viable for their archetype. If you are experienced, you can just aggressively vial to make the deck you want after you finish the additional starter stuff and you can play that and whatever you pick up on the way for 2 months while you rebuild your library. If you aren't they're wasted on you anyway and you can grind it out on liquefy extras vials and budget lists that traded consistency for flexibility.


>>171926291
https://exhentai.org/?f_doujinshi=1&f_manga=1&f_artistcg=1&f_gamecg=1&f_western=1&f_non-h=1&f_imageset=1&f_cosplay=1&f_asianporn=1&f_misc=1&f_search=group%3A%22yakumi+sarai%24%22&f_apply=Apply+Filter

>>171926430
I like how the offensive stuff is often demonic. It's a nice touch.
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>>171924521
I would take her blade of resentment up my various holes any day now...
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>>171926116
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>171926602
Why would you respond to a post about aggressive femdom sex witha bunch of non-h 2hu doujins?
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>>171926602
>exhentai
>tags: pregnancy, gore, netorare, unbirth, monster-girls, dead play, corruption
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>171924521
Default Tsubaki is rather cute, I think her evo version is rather lame tho. Ruins a lot of the nice things about her.
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>>171926613
>various
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>>171926195
>>171926230
>>171926250
>>171926251
Thanks for the answers. One more quesion I have. So far the legendaries I got are
1xCrystal Tia, 1x Bloody Mary, 2x Sun Oracle's Pascale, 2xTsubaki, 1x Fairy Princess, 1x Lord of flies, 1x Sahaquiel, 1xBlood Hungry Matriach, 1x White Wolf, 1x Dark Angel Olivia, 1xLord Atomy, and 1xImperial Dragoon
Is there any i should scrap and can I make a somewhat cheap deck using any? Sorry for asking a lot just kinda confused on some things
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>>171926746
What are you >implying?
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>>171926735
Cause that's the artist for Demonic hedonist, flame destroyer, gravewalker, and I forget what else

>>171926739
Huh?
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>>171926739
>Default Tsubaki is rather cute, I think her evo version is rather lame tho. Ruins a lot of the nice things about her
that's because you're not suppoused to evolve her
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>>171926772
You will under no sircumstances vial olivia. You will not vial the following cards unless you plan to never play their craft: tia, tsubaki.
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>>171926772
Eh, tsubaki, tia, wolf, matriarch and olivia are okay. Others are very situational.

Pascale might be okay in ToG's earth rune, saha might be okay with luci/israphiel combos and dragoon is a rare finisher
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>>171926772
You should never be vialing cards that are really good. Even if you don't plan to play a craft now, you will kick yourself a lot in the future when you're missing those crucial legends.

In your case examples would be Tia, Olivia, Wolf and Atomy is about to becomes REALLY good.
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So I've been thinking just how effective Roland is against DShift
>Perfect DShift is 9 attacks + Fiery Embraces
>Assuming no Petrify, Roland makes it so they need 5 hits to kill, so you need to absorb 5 hits to live
>Roland absorbs 2/Fiery
>Aurelia absorbs 2/Fiery
>Frontguard absorbs 3/1+Fiery
If you've baited out the Embraces, any 3 meaty wards will do, but if 1 is left you need 2 frontguards and Roland, and if 2 are left then you need 3 frontguards to survive

This is all assuming that
1) No petrification
2) Windblasts are out of the picture
3) No extra summons other than Destroyers

Obviously a perfect Shift will almost never happen, same with erecting 3 frontguards. You should be pressuring them hard enough that they have to do an imperfect shift to survive, which will likely tip the scales in CSword favour, not like they had much trouble with the matchup anyway.
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>>171926772
It's kinda difficult to judge right now right before the next expansion. For example I'd say pascale would be fine to scrap, but Rune is getting a lot tempo-oriented earth cards next expansion where she might be useful. Imperial dragoon is another card you could scrap, although discard dragon are getting a few new cards (but I doubt it'll be good still).

The ones for you sure you shouldn't remove is Tia, Bloody mary, olivia and tsubaki. The ones you could remove is Fairy Princess and Lord Atomy.
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hello, i do not play this game

but i find japanese meme of eidolon of madness and skullfane

is there gameplay reason, or just voice acting?
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So I heard a desert rider gets a cheap removal.
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>>171926772
tia's core forest
Bloody mary is somewhat outdated in blood but will see use until you fill out your library
Pascale is outdated but will see use until you fill out your library
Tsubaki's core sword as a removal+face
Fairy princess is outdated but you can still use her to refill
Lord of the flies lets you kill anything/wards/or will drain face or kill and drain a weakened 6-drop but is outdated but will see use until you fill out your library. If he stays alive a turn somehow, he gets pretty nuts
Saha is core neutralcraft and saha-luci ramp dragon
Matriarch runs in certain blood lists
White wolf runs in wolfbolt and is a decent power boost until you fill out your library and instead run better deck specific cards.
Olivia is a general budget deck power boost as the additional 2 evo's let you try to swing momentum easier. Also a strong card in seacraft and some other niche decks.
Atomemer uses a specialized deck that uses a slider of board flood and last word followers to drop an atomy anywhere from t2 onward. With the additional new cards he's getting in the expansion, he'll have gained consistency as a deck.
Dragoon has its place as a closer in dragon lists. He dumps your hand for face and often clears wards enabling a kill.
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>>171927032
SAMBI SAMBI SAMBI
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>>171927052
You're getting pretty close to 8 shadows by the time you'd use her
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>>171927198
>turn 5 8 shadow

Yeah, no.
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QUICK someone give me a deck with Humpty Dumpty in it I want to meme people.
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>>171926772
You really shouldn't vial legos. Many of them get revived going forward. Non-standard legos you have to buy with gold if you ever want to use them when they become viable again. It's just not worth throwing perfectly functional cards away only to have to craft them later. Sometimes even soon cause you fell for an /svg/ shitter convincing you x was bad.

Budget decklists are:

Aggro blood is 5 golds for 3 vania and 2-3 vampire fortress
Cursed storm royal is 1-2 golds. Shadowed is really only there for if you get stalled you can clear and re-cloak. Banner memes is pretty cheap as is aggro royal using fangblades for a closer.
OTK disconewt dragon's 5-6 golds but the 3 breaths are core dragon and the 3 altered fate are core ptp neutralcraft
Aggro forest can drive on 3 gold roaches
Storm haven is 5 golds for 3 garuda and 1 valhallan
Tempo spellboost rune can get by with just 3 Levi's
Budget aggro shadow has 0 golds but you really have to nut your curve or you fall apart like wet toilet paper if you can't close out with cursed soldier+board on t7

Neutralcraft's really just the 2 gold wind gods. The 2 uriel are for spear consistency which is important but you'll live for a week to get the vials for them
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>>171927032
No reason. That channel is just a massive meme factory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8edEyq1NPXU
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>>171927052
>ファンファーレ 自分のネクロマンス はネクロマンス 0になる。
>(墓場が何枚であってもネクロマンス能力が働き、墓場の枚数は減らない)
I don't understand, it says you're supposed to be able to use necromancy regardless of the amount of shadows you have and that the amount of shadows you have won't be reduced even if you use necromancy.
Why does this make it sound like only the second effect(not reducing) will work?
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>>171927052
well, this ruins any chance of her being decent
can't even meme with her

this brings me back the the rant about shadow being able to control when they want to use up their shadows we had every day during the steam release
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>>171927262
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>mfw 7 days to dragon opression
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>4-0
>have to play this
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>>171927481
Read Ghostly Grasp's Japanese text.
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>>171926772
>>171927380
On the other hand, think about it this way.

If there's some deck you REALLY want to play, will you really have fun playing a budget aggro blood deck that, while working, is not fun to you? Will you enjoy grinding with an unfun until you have enough vials to build the deck you actually want to play?

I'd say the game rewards you with one pack of cards per day on average from its free dailies. Even if you vial a lot of legendaries not used atm to build a deck you have fun playing, you'll have spare vials to make another playset of any legendary pretty quickly just by doing your dailies because you're having >fun.
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>>171926772
All legendaries you got are usable, so I wouldn't dust any of those.
If you are really set on vialing something then order of playability will be something like Fairy Princess < Lord Atomy < Pascale < Lord of the Flies < Imperial Dragoon and after that are staples. I still wouldn't be dusting any of those right before expansion hits but well, it's ultimately your choice.
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>>171927693
>自分の墓場か8以上あるなら
Oh, well I guess Tyrant should still work for free at least.
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"""""""Tempo"""""""" Rune.
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@171927964
this remember me the stupid shitters in DE calling Garuda Haven aggro
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>dragon finally gets one good card against nep
>dragon becomes smug
>implying going from a 2/10 chance of winning to a 3/10 chance of winning calls for such smugness
>completely overstating the usefulness of one card against an entire deck

>dragoncucks


When nothing changes on TotG youll only have yourselves to blame for your even stronger dragon depression.
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>>171927964
>""""""""""""""""""""""Midrange"""""""""""""""""""""" Sword
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30655
I need a concede, stick around if you want one back. Thanks!
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>>171928070
I'm not sure I understand the hype about the card either. Sure, it's good, but you're still just as stuck against one Khawy. It's not like you'll have three of them in your hand just waiting for the Neps to come down one after another. It's not like shadow players will just drop Last Word after Last Word follower to get banishcausted.

If you can use it to banish a board and then close the game right after, it works. If you fail to do that you're just in your usual position.
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>>171928114
Thanks Russian dragonman
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Reminder that nep doesnt even need to be played to win
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>>171928070
> 2/10 chance of winning to a 3/10 chance of winning
>shadowbabs still being this delusional
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>>171928518
>one card will win you all your games

I can understand how being shit for so long can make dragoncucks this delusional.
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>>171927052
Where do I read more of this FAQ?
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>>171928668
twitter my fair dude.
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>t2 oracle
>t3 rahab
>t4 dragon warrior
>t5 sybil
aggro concede
>t6 saha israfil/luci
>t7 israfil
midrange/daria concede
>t8 baha
control concede
>t8 lightning blast
>t9 santa
nepshitter concede

>>171928621
>look im winning a really favorable match up! your opinion is wrong!

Pedonigger everyone.
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>>171928621
One card winning all your games is exactly how Nep, Roach, Seraph, Daria, Dshift, and Albertcraft all work dumbass
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>>171927052
Oh, so this card is actually kind of terrible then.
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>>171928621
Enjoy the last moments
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>>171928754
>fantasies

This is you next week, have fun dragoncuck.
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>>171927964
Don't lose your face.
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>probably only have enough resources to build 1 full deck in the next weeks
>may even have to vial some cards to do so, depending on my pulls and the deck.
>don't want to end up with some meme deck that will end up being T3

what are my best bets?
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>>171927052
So what the fuck does this card supposed to do
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>>171927052
So for necromancy effects, you still need to have the amount of shadows, they just won't be reduced?
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>>171928803
Tbh only albertcraft and daria fits that, the other youre supposed to combo it with some other card
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>>171928803
Except it isnt how all decks work, those are wincons, not the whole deck. No deck can ride one card to victory otherwise they wouldnt be called decks, the idea that lightning blast will put nep in the trash is absurd, dragon is bottom tier and retards still play it so why people would anyone stop playing a top tier deck like nep because of one dragoncuck card delusional.
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>>171928936
aggro or to buy packs/new pres with money.
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>>171928956
>Destroy an enemy follower with 1 defense. If you have enough shadows you can choose to use Necromancy (8) to destroy an enemy follower with 2 defense or more instead.

In japanese it wasn't "if you have enough shadows"
It was, "if you have 8 or more shadows then Necromancy 8: Destroy 2 defense or more"
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Nico nico new meta soon /svg/!
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>>171927052
Cinfirmed blacked jeanne level trash
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So I read the question as it is in nip. So yeah, the only cards that are affected is Grasp and Deathbrand because they are "special".

It's still dumb, though
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>aggro shadow is currently worse than aggro sword and blood right now and will be worse once grimnir and other control tools comes out
>nep gonna be removed by dragon and aegis haven
>midrange shadow they're pushing won't be good enough to beat midrange blood and midrange sword. probably gonna be destroyed by control forest and control sword too.
>minthe is still legendary goliath

Alright, anyone else planning to liquefy every shadow cards once ToG out to craft everything you don't pull? I really hope I don't pull Minthe/Eachtar.
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>>171928754
>Israfil
I don't see what we'd be dropping to make room for it, and it doesn't EoT heal.
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>>171929201
I always hate shadowbbs and they deserve to be shit tier again
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whats the best bet for dealing with all the sword cancer on ladder at the moment?

I've switched from aggro blood to howl/cerb deck and seems to be doing better but more suggestions would be good
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>>171929201
>Alright, anyone else planning to liquefy every shadow cards once ToG out to craft everything you don't pull?
I've liquified all of my shadow cards already.
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>>171929305
3xUnica 3xHealing Angel package in all the decks and you are fine.
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>>171929201
Aggro Shadow could be better if Fighter was actually 1/2 with Necromancy (1): Gain +1/+0. Can't have that, I guess.
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Should I grind for Masters after expac or before expac? I am less than 2k away from it
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>>171929286
Thus desu the real crime is dragon killing seraph
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>>171929305
control blood, guardian satan, control sword
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>>171929341
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>>171929373
Hardly.

Every other Seraph player BMs me when they drop Seraph as if I didn't know what they were playing and was supposed to be all "wow oh shit what the fuck is that".

Odining it is always a great feeling.
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>>171929201
>liquefy every shadow cards
Just do it now. Vialed all the 3 neps including 1 animated. The class gonna have >5% play rate once ToG hit.

>>171929315
This guy know what's he's talking about.
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>>171929070
>dragon
>bottom tier

Now i know you're shit at this game. Disco dragon may be garbage but face dragon has been wrecking popular T1 decks.
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>>171929602
And Storm Ramp crushes everything that's not aggro or khawy shadow.
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>>171929653
>doesn't know about Draconifcation Storm Ramp
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>>171924887
more like you use this spell on enemy full board, at the start of the turn enemy and you take 5 damage. Then enemy go full face at you for 5 damage. Then at the start of your turn you and enemy take 5 damage.
therefore you will take 15 damage and enemy will take 10 if you don't out right kill him with the 5 damage at start then you need to have at least 11 hp advantage over your enemy.to survive his turn.
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>>171929682
Post deck
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Why does Saha have laser robots that teleport her onto the battlefield?
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Do you anons prefer to do your climbing when the meta is mostly already set in stone or when the meta is uncertain?

While I was apprehensive about the start of RoB at first, I did enjoy using RDW-style Aggro Blood to climb simply because it punishes unrefined decks
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>>171929812
When the meta is set in stone you can just make anti-meta decks and win your way to master, so the answer is obvious.
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>>171929186
What makes them special? Because you can choose, or because it says "if you have enough shadows"?
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>>171929126
im not ready
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>>171929903
What is even the anti meta nowadays? The deck that can deal with Sword and Rune?

I was hoping to make my last 2k sprint to Masters before the expac
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>>171929812
I pretty much climbed from A2 to AA0 with some aggro shadow deck before people thought it was good. I completely destroyed Daria newbies who had no idea what they were doing.
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>>171929812
Climbing is easiest at the start of any new meta because if you're a good player, you won't be a laggard. You will be an innovator or early adopter and help to shape the meta, or at least build a deck which could then be refined by someone else even if it falls off in favor of other decks. Stuff like netdecking and ease of access to this sort of information damages innovation.
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>>171930004
Earth Rune
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whats wrong sword shitter? wheres your board
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>>171928754
dshift comes and dragon concede
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>>171930024
Whats this pic from? I am curious on what it represents
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>>171929812
>RDW-style
What's that?
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>>171930058
Omg post deck pls
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>>171930324
"Red Deck Wins", an MtG term for decks that are mostly if not all red, aiming to burn or kill your opponent before they can even properly react to it. These kinds of decks punishes unrefined decks the most

Aggro Blood is the closest to this kind of deck for SV
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>>171930118
They'll just run storm variants if there's more dshift, and dshift doesn't get along well with Albert either. Storm still has a sub 50% winrate against Dshift iirc but it has an actual fighting chance while still doing well against non-aggro.
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>guy building the fattest shadow reaper
>not knowing I have a khawy in hand
HAHAHA
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>>171930024
Innovation is a luxury not a requirement for survival, most people won't even HAVE the tools to innovate and experiment, also a good chunk of those people who have the resources won't be able to refine something enough for it to catch fire.

The whole innovation elitism is borderline insane because it assumes unrealistic expectations that a decent amount of the player base even can do it, which is just straight up false.
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need a concede:

88664

thanks.
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>>171930375
its just standard aggro blood, swordtrash drew badly.

>t1 nothing
>t2 quickblader
>t3 veteran lancer
>t4 give up

deck pic if you really want it, last card is 3x imp lancer
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>>171930485
Sorry pal, but I got Etheral Form for him. Try harder next time.
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>>171929931
yeah, they say something like "if you have x or more shadows" in jap supposedly, so minthe should still work with tyrant, death's breath, etc
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>>171927679
why are sektor and veteran so big in this picture?
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fucking khawy reeeee
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>tfw wrongfully accused and banned for posting cp when I've never done or have possession of it
>tfw have to post on my phone for 2 days until I can make my appeal
It's not fair I just wanna post memedecks I've built already.
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>>171930567
But anyone can do it if they have vials saved up. There's a deckbuilder online. It's just that most of the time, the brewed deck will fail to have any real impact or stickiness and will just fall off. A handful of people will make brews that work and stick, and those are seen as the innovators. If I come up with the earliest version of something, and it's then refined by another person to the point where its greatly improved but still recognizable, it's a joint effort. Me for the original framework or idea, them for refining it.
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>>171930851
just lightning blast it
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Need a concede please for the daily

74458
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>>171930851
Your opponent was probably grinning the whole match as you kept buffing your ninja.
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>>171930884
Might just be a rangeban or because you have a rotating IP or something (mobile-based internet and whatnot).
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Why is Rune considered bad in T2?
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>>171931150
Can't even meme in peace. Sad!
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>>171927052

Well in that case this card is absolute trash.

>>171929975

Stupid birb.
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>>171931202
Consistency. You're probably not going to draft enough of either dirt or spellboost to get much out of either.
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>>171931202
Just think about what kind of rune decks work outside T2. Daria, dirtrune, and Dshift.

Two of them rely on spellboosts and spellboostable cards, and the last one relies on comboing earth shit. You will never get enough of any of these resources in T2.

Meanwhile sword is about going face and a lot of its craft cards support that by default. There's no comboing. It's just face.

Similarly, dragon has its ramp cards but also relies heavily on big minions which there's a lot of in the craft's own cards, and thus is good in T2. Those minions don't see much play in constructed but even fucking inferno dragon can be scary in T2 because it's not so laden with removal and decks that just kill you if your cards don't affect the board as soon as they're played.
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>>171931161
You think my perma ban will get appealed. I've never had this happen to me before. I live on dorms near my university so maybe that's why I have a rotating ip.
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Did you make Luna happy today, anon?
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>>171931483
>You think my perma ban will get appealed.

From my personal experience with these sorts of 4chan bans on College campuses it will NEVER get repealed.
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>>171931202
gad dayum ma boi using my tracker

any new features you'd want or suggestions for it? I haven't updated for a while because waiting for cygames to get back to me about possibly adding log file so it can track games automatically
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>>171931580
Fug
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>>171931483
I got a ban for posting CP late last year. I don't browse porn, let alone save it to my PC or interact with CP. I appealed as soon as I was able and it was fixed a few hours later. When I try to post from some public wifi that I'm near most days though, there's a ban on that IP for requesting CP. Pretty funny. At my college last year, too, someone got a month long ban for complaining about /sp/ mods.
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>>171931579
>Did you make Luna happy today, anon?

Of course.
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>>171931348
>>171931457
Even without super synergy i usually do fine. I only sometimes get rushed down by aggressive decks (mostly sword).

Rune seems able to control really well but is just a tad too slow sometimes.

Though my Shadow winrate was also once at 80% so maybe with more games my Rune winrate will go down as well.
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>>171931772
I'm going to sniff that unwashed groin.
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>>171930937
Look it feels like you're being almost purposely not being realistic here. People that have a considerable amount of vials saved up often already have a very specific aim in mind when it comes to their use.

They may spend some more of those vials trying to improve around their aim, but since we are talking about F2P game here, the majority of players won't pay for packs, so their resources are quite limited (even if the game is pretty generous), so it's only natural that people will be fearful of wasting resources that takes weeks/months to build up to a point where they can build enough legendaries/gold to test something that may just fall flat on it's face. It's a huge risk and when it doesn't pay off it makes most feel quite terrible about their decision.

The whole "just build using an online builder" is deceitful, because theory will only take you so far and the biggest part of a deck refinement happens after play with the theory building the foundation.

Innovators are essential but it's just straight up delusional to think the majority should innovate, theory crafting alone is already a thing that very few dwell deep enough on to bring something worthwhile, one thing is to throw a bunch of themed cards together another and see if it sticks, another would be to make a deck refined enough that it's reliable, consistent and have mostly good matchups across the board.
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Cat is playing earth rite now
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>>171931645
Post tracker, also if it doesn't have the feature, make it be able to save your decks, so you can have it all there saved to later use/consultation.
Maybe even add changes track history.
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>>171927052
The card was always trash
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>>171931939
HIMITSU!
Poor sword got overwhelmed by zombies
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I'm 1300 points away from Master Trials

I can feel the ladder anxiety setting in
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>>171930608
What series of cards caused so much damage by turn 4?
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>>171931984
https://github.com/sleeplessghost/ShadowverseTracker

It saves decks (their name) so you can track winrates for them over time but I haven't added the actual cards to it yet. was considering it + some form of deck management.

If I do add it I'll see if its possible to make it link out to deck creation on that shadowverse portal site or maybe even create a deck code from the app
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>>171932095
Just relax, anon.
You will eventually get there, just take it easy and let things follow their course.
Good luck.
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Will Arisa take back her rightful place in Tier 1 after ToG drops?
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>>171932095
The trip is almost over my bro
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>>171932132
looks like i misremembered

>t1 goblin -> nothing
>t2 vania -> nothing
>t3 summon bats + wraith -> veteran lancer
>t4 sac both bats into lancer + summon bats + razory claw -> give up
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>not evolving dwarf into golem to let taboo destroy olivia and not push off juno's ward
Why are so many players this bad. These are elementary plays
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Hello, officer? I think I just got memed on.
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>>171930169
It's the technology adaption life cycle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_adoption_life_cycle

It was originally formed with agricultural practices in mind but has been adapted to other sectors of society.

>the_more_you_know.jpg
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>>171932428
you can easily win that if he doesnt heal
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>>171929201
aggro shadow is not bad at all right now.
next expansion though..
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>>171932374
I need to finish that show. Looked pretty promising based on the earlier episodes.
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>>171932548
>based in the earlier
m8 this anime have more genres than tumblrinas.
if you like tokusatsu,super-heros,galactic invasors,kick-ass and tons of old japanese reference just watch.
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>>171932483
I killed atomeme and got him to 1life.

Then he topdecked fucking howl.
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>use taboo
>run out of sigils
>lose
Why do people say that taboo is good again?
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>>171932786
shouldve ignored atomeme
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>have dealt 30 damage to the enemy
>still at 20 hp
epic :)
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>>171932798
because he kills a random enemy and summons a 2/2 for free.
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>>171929353
But we have a 1pp follower with necro(1) that adds 1+1 effectively being a 1pp 2/2 follower.
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>>171932786
you know

when you play aggro you go face
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>>171932953
>Free
He uses a sigil to destroy. And the free 2/2 are just taking board space and die to everything for free.
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>>171932887
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>>171929481
Thing is with seraph though, if the player knows what they are doing amd you dont have an odin in your hand or draw one the next turn they OTK you everytime and even if you do manage to odin it, they usually just drop another.
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Nice curve
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>Tfw haven, being the designated hard removals until hard wincon class, will get an amulet that reflects the damage done to leader back.
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>>171927052
lmao bitch got nerfed to hell.

Eat shit shadowbbs
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>>171932884
>>171933036
Yes, I ignored him that turn and went face, then he evolved and hit me for 10 so I had to remove.
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>>171933238
Sure, bloody mary that also works on opponent turn and is an amulet. Balanced as fuck.
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>>171933167
>tfw you plays as ER and petrify/shadow witch their elanas and seraph
>And calamitous their board
>And force themis with pascale
>And make them waste tribunal and such with 2 mana 3/3s you get almost for free
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>>171926739
You have a problem with those tags? Normalfag?
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>>171933416
Whats your dicklist for ER? I feel like such a faggot using dshift for my rune dailies.
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>>171933316
Shouldn't you leathal him next turn? Follower and razor to his face and next turn demonic strike to face + evolved follower and others to face
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>>171933371
Everything for the sake of shorter games (c) Cygames explaining why did they make purg and prince.
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>>171933047
Sigils are just another resource you are supposed to use them.
The only problem is there are no consistent sigil generators so it's very limited.
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i want to BREED this miko every day
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>>171932548
Did you get to episode 7?
If no you haven't even started it, sit down and watch it.
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How's that saving up going anon?
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>>171933316
Even if his skelly killed one you'd still have enough for lethal, unless he played something to fuck over another follower?
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85820

A concede would be nice.
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>>171933587
She's actually genesis dragon's daughter

So be careful with that
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>>171933002
Skeleton Fighter's stats make it awkward to play it as a turn 1 since most often than not they die to pings without doing much. Deadmoon Disciple doesn't help any to that as well.
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>>171933587
So she's a miko?
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>mfw sword is the craft I'm missing the most cards for
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>>171933516
Exactly. You have 15 sigils max in your deck, even if you kaleido dwarf. With up to 20 cards that use them.

You can't spend them to destroy one random target when you can get 3x golems out of them, or 5 hp board clear, or a ward on evolve, or doubling the board stats.

And in ToG you'll have even more uses.

>>171933490
Its not exactly competitive though
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>>171933587
She's like a lucifer you can play on turn 6. Drop her with dragon egg and you get 1 empty pp, 5hp heal and a card draw.
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>>171933775
Plz Help
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2 pp follower with last word: draw your dragon oracle when?
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How do you counter Dragon on next expansion?
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>play csword
>5 dshifts consecutively
>switch to aggro blood
>3 control decks in a row

fucking make it stop fucking shit game

reeeeee
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>>171933587
Ramp once play this + Egg on 6PP
Not bad, but not super amazing.
Definitely a wait-and-see card for me imo.
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>>171933918
You are in luck because dragon is T0 next expansion.
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>>171933620
1585g and 8000 vials, have to wait 4 hours for dailies

Why cant dailies just reset along with the daily bonus, I was busy yesterday and ended up finishing them late around 6ish so now i have to wait to do them everyday after, its bs, i normally have free time around now and i cant do em.
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>>171933620
3.3K gold so far and only like 7K vials or so saved.
All the decks I play and have finished up aside from maybe one or two are going to be pretty irrelevant post ToG so things are looking dim.
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>when the enemy has 3 HP
>when you topdeck Garuda
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Why is there still no notable nerfs to Daria cancer? They still vomit their entire hand by T5. The piercing rune nerf basically did nothing either.
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>>171933793
so you are saying genesis fucked a souless ginger?
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>>171934172
>but not super amazing.

It completely shits on any early game aggression along with rahab.
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>>171934283
anon just pass rank B no one play with daria
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>>171934283
just revelation bro
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>>171931939
>lost to JO dragon in ranked
I feel so humiliated
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>>171934283
>>171933507
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>>171933775
Anyone free?
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Are you ready for masters grinding next week /svg/? Aggro will be king while the new meta takes shape.
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>>171934357
I'm AA2 and atleast 40% of my games are VS Daria
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>>171934269
>when the enemy only has 3HP
>when you draw any of the cards in the half of your deck that can kill them
aggroblood is fun to meme with
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>>171933587
This would be so broken without the "fifth turn or later" didnt exist
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>>171934283
>Why is there still no notable nerfs to Daria cancer?
Because Daria was made to be facreolled to Masters for newbies that can't actually play cardgame to inflate the player base. Thats why it will never be nerfed, its pure cashgrab.
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>>171934448
i think you miswrote the id
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>>171934594
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>>171934006
>She's like a lucifer you can play on turn 6.

You just need to ramp once, play her on turn 5 and she will heal you. People are underrating this card so bad.
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>>171933620
I have a lot of lucky in packs unpacked all relevant legos from DE and RoBeven in HS i pull 2 legos per month

since my lucky is high even 4k of gold is enought
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>>171934449
Aggro will always be king because hyper aggressive decks are the only way to hope to beat the ridiculous cancer that will be Rune and Dragon next meta.
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>3k rupees by next week
>5k vials
i think i'm alright with rupees, but how about the vials? do people usually gain a decent amount of vials from a completely new pack?
or should i buy some RoBs just for vials?
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>>171934283
Daria as a balanced winrate now, even if the deck is still cancer. They will not nerf it further. Unlike you retards, who want to see the deck killed, the devs are looking to balance it.
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>>171934345
It's pretty good, heal for 5 + draw a card turn 5 is really strong and Rahab seems like a solid card. I wouldn't say it completely shits on early game aggression but it's definitely a huge swing against aggresive decks.
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Newfag here. Should I keep this? I wanted to go Runecraft but this says otherwise.

Does rerolling matter that much?
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>>171934563
>they have 3hp on turn 6
>you have 8 hp and they have lethal next turn
>you have no cards in hand and they just cleared your board
>you draw demonic storm

Never believed in the heart of the cards so hard.
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>queue up control deck
>go up against aggro/"midrange" every match
>take out odins so I might survive
>next opponent is control
>lose because I have no odins

every time
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>>171934834
Just unga bunga and focus on building a secondary deck as you go, with 2 alberts you dont really have a choice.
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>>171934283
Bigger question is why they haven't even pretended to care about D-Shift despite its influence having made the game objectively worse literally from the start. It outright kills multiple otherwise viable archetypes and forces the game to be about ridicuosly aggressive decktypes because a slow meta will always be massacred by D-Shifts completly uncounterable win condition.

The fact that D-Shift still exists proves that Cyagames doesn't give a remote fuck about "balance" in this game because they can sell it on anime titties instead.
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>>171934814
A deck that you can't counterplay is pretty bad for the game. Even as haven my games often end on T5 (aka before themis) they vomit their hands way too fast through all the wards quite often. God forbid you play something with less removal than haven.
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>>171934834
Join the sword cancer now
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>>171934834
this roll is really bad .

if you to go rune roll for daria and levis.

or a roll with a lot of good legos if you get 6+ legos post here

>is how important
2 months of grind in 2 hours
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>>171934834
>2 albert
Albertcraft is calling you, you don't need anything more to climb to Master
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>>171933620
Pretty well, I must say.
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58072. Concede please.
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>>171934982
Better share the wealth.
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>>171934834
You got two copies of an absolute staple for Sword (Albert) and one copy of an absolute staple for Forest (Ancient Elf) + one of the most important neutral legendaries (Odin).
I wouldn't advice rerolling, but not because your roll is amazing (you can get better though this is pretty good), but because the expansion is coming in 6 days. Take this roll, play with it, have fun and try stuff out, and, once the expansion hits reroll again and start over.
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>>171934971
>>171934834
>alberts.


yes this is a good roll
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>>171934814
>Unlike you retards, who want to see the deck killed, the devs are looking to balance it.
Daria needs to be killed because its fundamentally broken and toxic to the health of the meta.
A deck that has the best boardflood, draw engine, removal and face damage in the game at the same time with no trade-offs and no drawbacks that even synergis with eachother will never 'not' damage the meta by simply being a option that exists.
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>>171934851
one of my best uses of demonic storm was against sword, we both had 3 hp left and she had lethal next turn so i suicided us both into a draw.

Allahu akbar
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>>171934967
but rocl paper scizzors is bad :(((
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>>171935035
Thank you.
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>>171934950
they will balance based on winrates which in D-shift's case are very poor because people would rather unga then lose to D-shit cancer.
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>>171934834
Just use this roll until the 30th and reroll again like >>171935065 said.
Starting now is not worth it, since you might get shit in the new expansion packs.
>Does rerolling matter that much?
Yes.
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>>171935085

they should nerf like in HS everything that is not fun should be killed because blizzard know how to do it
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>>171935275
You are a fucking retard who has no idea what he's talking about. Piss off back to HS.
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Any other control blood mains in here feeling comfy about the expansion?
Feels good to be getting some nice tools and not being dragoncraft
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>>171935275
HS is stone cold boring what are you talking about.

>kripps deadpan face playing HS
>kripp smiles playing shadowverse

Something nobody knew he could do.
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>>171935374
>not being dragoncraft

You mean shadow craft?
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>>171935275
>My brainless faceroll deck shouldn't be nerfed because unfun decks need to exist
>t. D-Shitter
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>>171935275
>discussion on balance
>blizzard know how to do it
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A2 to AA0 was a wild ride of 75% Albertcraft decks.
Does it get better? I don't think I can beat competently played Albert decks. I'm honestly thinking about dropping a Sun amulet or two in my storm haven deck just so I have some tech against that faggot.
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>>171935275
>Obvious tongue in cheek comment
>All of these serious replies

I guess people are really triggered by cuckstone here.
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>>171935528
>75% albert decks

You kinda have to tech if youre being honest.
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>>171935447
That too
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hmmm shadowbbs?
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>>171933506
>>171933746
1 from lethal because of some other crap he pulled, yes
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>>171935528
It gets better once the expansion hits and people move on to newer netdecks
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>>171935578
>obvious
>on the internet where people are actually retarded
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>>171935135
Bullshit, you win it you triggered the card that made both leaders hp 0 at the same time
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>>171935689
Its not bullshit, you both lose because both your hp hits 0.
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>>171935135
>>171935752
>things that never happened
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>>171935815
Okay, believe what you want faggot but ive done it and seen it. You both lose, there isnt a draw screen.
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>>171934172
>>171934830
Don't forget, she acts as a pseudo ward as well since they need to kill her or she'll just keep healing.
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>>171935584
Maybe 2/3 is a more realistic number, but it's still very, very high. My guess is because it's a bracket filled with people who are playing for the sole purpose of climbing, so they magnet to whatever is flavor of the day in order to minimize the grind. Thing is, most of them make really bad plays, like leaving me with 10-12 damage on board when they've got 13-15 life and my T6 is coming up. They apply Albert to the face rather than anticipating Garuda, DoD, etc.
I wish there were play stats for all the ranks rather than just Master - would be interesting to see how things shift and change from rank to rank.
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>Trying to flame & glass meme with shadow assassin
>In the rare game it works, everyone just quits the turn before best girl arrives

Why are people so mean?
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PLEASE REMOVE DSHIFT FROM THIS FUCKING GAME HOLY SHIT
WHAT'S THE POINT OF JACKING OFF WHILE I DON'T GET TO PLAY ANYTHING AND WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF SPENDING 50K VIALS ON THIS FUCKING CONTROL DECK WHEN IM JUST GONNA GET RAPED BY THESE FAGGOTS WITH DOROTHY EMBLEMS BMING ME EVERY FUCKING GAME IM SICK OF LOSING TO THESE FAGGOTS DO I SERIOUSLY HAVE TO TECH SOME AGGROSHIT IN MY CONTROL DECK OR WHAT
PLEASE NERF THIS PIECE OF SHIT DECK SOMEHOW
WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE A CARD THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE AN EXTRA TURN LMAOOO SUCH A GOOD IDEA RIGHT
AGGRO WILL BE ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DEAD IN THE NEXT EXPANSION
DSHIFT CAN'T BE TIER 1 FOREVER
FUCK THIS FUCKING DECK FUCK YOU
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>>171935940
this is why i stopped playing flame and glass. it's not fun if you don't even get to see best girl(s)
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>>171935875
The one who loses is the turn player, retard. The other one gets a win.
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>>171935875
Because only the turn player will lose.
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>Charlotte will be playable again because of Gawain and Luminous Standard

I'm glad I didn't vial my animated one. Too bad Leonidas is still too slow even with Gawain.
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>>171935875
Not him but once me and a bloodfag were at 1HP and he threw the 1/2 that does 1 damage to both leaders and I was given the win
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>>171935985
>THESE FAGGOTS WITH DOROTHY EMBLEMS
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>>171935985
Play control sword.
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>>171936012
Now youre changing it, you said you win it because you triggered the card, but now youre saying you lost it because it was your turn? So which is it shitposter?
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>>171936027
>8pp worse than Frontguard and worse than Fangblade
It won't be played.
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>>171936132
>you said you win it because you triggered the card
I didn't say shit.
I am not the one you replied to, retard. I am correcting your stupidity. The player who loses is the turn player and only him.
>shitposter
Kill yourself.
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>>171936060
>causing a draw doesnt cause a draw

Thats pretty gay.
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>>171936159
>8pp

She's 7pp with Gawain and 5/8 Ward and Storm with Luminous standard. You don't play Fangblade/Alwida in commandercraft and Roland kinda replace Frontguard role as 7pp ward.
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Earlier this year I opened 3 Sahas and one of them was animated. I thought I would never use that clunky card since I didn't play dragon or had lucifer. I vialed the animated one to craft my last neph, now this is my cross to bear
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>>171936289
You died at your turn which was before his turn
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>>171936259
>I didn't say shit.
>I am not the one you replied to,

Sure you didnt faggot.
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>>171936364
but what if he went first
technically you now had the same amount of turns to die on
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Need a win
74915
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>>171936347
>to craft my last neph

L
O
L

Eatshit pedonigger. Enjoy being the worst class for whole 3 months.
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>>171936364
>that doesnt make a lick of sense

You dont kill them and then end your turn and they die so how does that mean anything?
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Need a concede for daily mission

69288
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>>171936347
I'm just waiting if Cygames gonna fuck me over even if I open 50+ packs once TOG arrives. I got at least estimated 7k worth of vials.

2 Sahas, 2 Odins and 2 Bahas. No Lucy
Israfil looks like a nice replacement for Lucy since her damage all enemy when attack is nice.
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>>171936430
Thanks Rowen
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>>171933620
I have this and around the same rupies on another acct.

Im saving every rupie like a diehard Jew
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>>171935917
It's not just that aggrobert is popular. It's an extremely consistent deck. It curves easily, rarely bricks, and doesn't depend on any tricky combos to succeed. It also has a pretty easy win condition: flood the board and get them to 10 health with no wards by turn 9.

Add to it that most builds are inexpensive except for the Alberts and it's no wonder why you see so many.
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>win 3 games with shadow
>1 hour later
>1 win

reeeeeeeeee
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>>171936347
>he fell for the shadowbab meme
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>>171936556
I've got two Saha, two Baha, and one Lucifer. I'm thinking I can finally build ramp once tempest hits. Lightning blast can easily replace Odin.
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>>171936610
Neph actually got from B0 to AA0, it was fun while it lasted.
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>>171936610
>he fell for the lightning blast meme
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>>171936723
>lightning blast
>a meme

Your days are numbered, lunaposter
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I still love shadow
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>>171936723
>he's still in denial

At least we don't get Goliath as legendary.
LMAO
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>>171936801
Next week, dragoncuck.
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>>171936824
I unironically think that shadow will be good this expansion and people are severly underestimating its legos, just how badly they judged reaper
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So what's stopping Albert from being tier 1 next expansion too?
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>>171936978
Tyrant-Minthe will be decent atleast.
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>>171937076
My dick
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>>171937076
The gorillion heal from Dragon.
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>>171937076
bloodmoonsnek
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>>171936824
I love you too, Sharo. But not as much as I love Chiya.
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>>171937076
The dragon's roar
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Best girl always wins in the end
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>>171937162
hello shadow how's your day?
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>>171937076
All of the anti aggro tools they gave the other classes like black death mask, sybil etc

combined with the fact that by mid-game blood and shadow will be able to have considerably larger boards than the sword player.
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>>171937109
Tyrant Minthe is fucking slow. Tyrant with Goblin Princess and Prince Catacomb will be some good meme tho, Atomeme Mammoth as well.
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STOP PLAYIONG DSHGIFT IM GONNA KILL MYSELF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Running 1 tyrant in nepless shadow is always nice.
Get cucked hag.
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>>171937326
さあ 飛ぶわよ!
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>cblood cuck heal every time
>at 20 hp on turn 9
>wolf his alucard
>next turn bolt + roach for 26 damage
Get fucked healcuck, I fucking hate you and haven with passion.
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>only the true shadow mains will play this mean less than 3% of PR
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>>171937470
I DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT WHOR'ES VOIECE LINE ANYMORE GO FUCK YOURSELF
>>
>played aggro shadow with 9 1PPs
>still managed to brick in 4 games

Wake me up.
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>>171937470
I'm no dubkek but HERE'S SOME REAL MAGIC sounds so much better and more impactful.
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>>171937342
>Bullying Sun
>>
>mfw cerberus is the only good shadow lego again
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>>171937646
Why are you complaining about heals when you are playing the only class that can combo 20+ damage from hand consistently?
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>>171937646
want a cookie?
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>>171937646
Enjoy it while it lasts
Nothing will prevent us from dragging out the game soon
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just started. are there any good JO dragon lists to run wanna play a meme deck and dont know how to build one
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>>171937782
He already git his (You)
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>>171937835
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>>171937773
Because sometimes you can only roach of 10 or 15 but they are always at fucking 20
>>171937782
would be nice desu
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>>171937659
>tfw soon to be one of the last shadow mains alive
Feels good to be ELITE
>>
Daria v Daria matches are always such a shit show.
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>>171937758
Anime Cerberus is ugly
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>>171927052
It's only for optional effects like grasp.

Deaths Breath will give ward zombies even if you have 3 shadows
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>>171937216
>gamepress
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>>171937326
There's no reason for you to give dshits free wins by playing control. Wait until the next week at least when the new cards to cuck dshift arrive. Any deck aside from control, even seraph is fine if you flood the board early.
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>>171937828
Forest has swords to woodlands though.
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>>171924470
>already a slut
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>>171938227
>4%
Livin' on the edge
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>>171938262
Nobody's gonna run such a situational card
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>>171937883
doesn't fervor DoD and CoC ruin the emissary pulls?

Also you should at least have 1 satan for the astaroth OTK meme
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>>171938104

Good, which means they really captured her appearance
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Why is Levi allowed to get +2/2 on evolve again?
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>>171938386
yes but the deck still need more support.

at least this version is the classic and most consistent
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>>171938408
kys
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>>171925132
They're probably all futa and the male goblins are the ones with vaginas. Kinda like a seahorse.
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>>171938408
Nigga you what?
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>>171927247
>Turn 1 bone doggy for 2 shadows
>Turn 2 Spartoi for 2 shadows
>Turn 3 hunt for 2 shadows
>Turn 4 Attendant + Conversion for 2 shadows plus draw
>Turn 5 Mint + Grasp
>Turn 6 still have Shadows for Deaths Breath or other memes after mint gets offed
>Turn 7 Eachtar will have enough shadows left over for 1 zombie plus buff
>Alternatively Enhance Zombie Party if Death Breath is cleared

Actually sounds pretty fun, might try. Sounds like it would be good at conserving evo and shadows
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>>171938227
I dunno, even playing storm haven dshift can fuck me over pretty hard if they keep bouncing my beast amulets.
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>>171936801
lighning blast isn't that good though.
i missed the threads when it was revealed. what did svg think of the card?

>6pp trade (mediocre, bricky)
>10pp wipe (good, bricky, winmore)
it doesn't seem like a busted card at least.
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>>171938386
>doesn't fervor DoD and CoC ruin the emissary pulls?
You are dead without Fervor and hard removal.
>Also you should at least have 1 satan for the astaroth OTK meme
Heathen, true JO Dragon plays no follower.
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>>171935239
I was kinda hoping to just do challenges and build up some currency in the meantime.

I guess my question is actually if it's reasonably possible to bullshit your way into a solid base of cards in this game? Or do you have to start new accounts with the current meta in mind?
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>>171938560
>perfect scenario
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>>171938587
>board clear
>winmore

are you retard?
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>>171938383
Seeing next expansion will have buttloads of cheap amulets, it's hard not to run that card.

Plus it's a cheap creature removal is a nice bonus too.
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>>171938560
>minthe+grasp
Anon, I...
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>>171938560
Or Turn 3 warded Spartoi for 3 shadows
Turn 4 Urd on Spartoi for another 3 shadows, 4 if urd dies too
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>>171927671
>he thinks dragon can beat haven
>aegis can ignore tos, but you can't
>your forte and genesis are just going to suicide themselves without doing anything
>>
>All these amulets and no removal

Balanced game
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>>171938640
>no followers
>servant of darkness
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>>171934950
>balance
Short games are profitable for mobile, so they made:
Easy to play and powerful aggro
Plenty of cards that end the game on turn ~9, or require you to win before the doomclock strikes, or you'll lose.
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>>171938587
It is banish for 6 pp
And it can target anything

The versatility of the card alone makes it worth running and replaces odin for dragon

It is busted, because unlike odin, you can use it to remove an evolved albert or evolved imp lancer in the aggro match up

It less of a brick than odin, while offering the same advantage
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>>171938785
H@v3n Inferno Dragon is good now?
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>>171938640
>not having trap angel and humpty dumpty
Crystals charge faster JO to Satan with the help of traps and eggs.
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>>171938587
It might sound broken as hell but its kinda situational.
Still a must have and might replace odin since you can use it on t6 so its not as much of a brick against aggro.
Also since its 6 pp you can banish ward and sneak in a hit with a wyvern cavalier reduced Forte or something.
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>>171938660
It's perfectly doable. They throw free shit at you all the time. You can get 4800 gold (48 packs) with 3 achievements + a bunch of arena tickets in just a few days. Most people play this game F2P
However, if you want to start now, waiting for the expansion to hit, so you can reroll the free packs of the new expansion as well, should be much better.
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>>171938694
Didn't stop this smugass >>171928754
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>>171938828
HS did the same with pirate and jade, probably for the same reason.
Easy to play powerful aggro and doomclock that all but autowins vs slower decks.
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>>171938587
It's in the ramp class.
It's a better themis in every way possible.
It can even be a cheaper odin if need be.

How is this card not absolutely broken?
You basically have to kill the dragon player before turn 6(good luck now that he has effective heals/wards in the early game) or give up the board entirely for the rest of your match considering he will have blast or salamander or bahamut.
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>Win 5 matches as Shadowcraft
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>>171938992
Just aggro them before they have 10 mana :^)
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>>171938865
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>>171938480
It was a bad attempt to give Rune a crutch evo, since their standard card pool was trash beyond dshit and Merlin. Then they gave Rune a viable aggro/mid-range build and never took the crutch back.
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Need a concede
22124
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>>171938792
You conjure him from magic like how the wizards do it.
>>171938871
Go away, don't charge crystal with me or my Demonic Strike ever again.
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>>171938694
>Midrange never curves into Albert
>Forest never has 2 fairies for Ancient Elf
>Daria never gets Clark/Craig Wambo Combo

Of you're not shit at mulligan it's not hard to get the curve you want. If you miss a step ideally you have other cards to prepare for it, like Prince Honeycombs doubling all your shadows
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>>171939050
That just means you can just hit face with forte/whatever because aegis isnt affected
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>>171939071
thanks senpai
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>Albert

Stupid fucking legendary
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This game motivates me to work out.
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>>171938787
(you)
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>>171939018
I get fucked badly with win x matches as shadowcraft or runecraft.

I have shit collection for both crafts. At least with blood, I can slap cheap cards and go full unga. My decent rune cards are fucking dirt. I wish to get me a big man or 2 with this expansion
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>>171938753
I what? On turn Minth is 4 drop, grasp is 1 drop, and in curve you'll have 8 shadows.
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>>171938723
a 10pp board clear still means you're not playing anything else that turn. it's not like baha where you get a body on board. it's not like themis either where you can play it on t6.

>>171938863
odin doesn't trade, this does. now you tell me how good of a play trading for 6pp is.

fact is, it's very, very good against last word cards, but it is bricky and mediocre vs other cards.
this card bricks extremely hard against aggro in general.

i'm not saying it's bad. i just don't think it's busted
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>mfw only 1 week to finally be able to punish all the lunas
This feels like a nofap session
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>>171939018
Forestcraft when you don't have any ancient elves, roaches, or any of their playable legendaries is easily the worst.
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How much gold have you saved up /svg/?

What's your day 1 wishlist?
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>>171939194
Not necessarily, it only says Aegis doesn't have to hit other followers while Test of Strength is in play, it doesn't mention anything vice versa.
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>>171939373
>banish everything but aegis is winmore
>turn the tables.in winmore

so concede is a winmore card?
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48304

concede please
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>>171939418
3500
Dragon's Legendaries.
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>>171939432
Nah if it doesnt get affected ut should work both ways

Im sure there's a reason they made aegis cant be affected by guardian wards
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>>171939373
>Dragon
>ramp

But it is exactly like themis where you can play it on t6....
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>>171938890
>so its not as much of a brick against aggro.

>a turn 6 one for one.
>not a brick
it's really, really bad against non last words effects.
only when it's mordecai or seraph you'll get your moneys worth, otherwise it's worse than odin. (talking about the 6pp effect alone)
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>>171939418
7k+
Aegis, Sybil and Ouroboros.
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>tfw delivering righteous forte futa cock to dariasluts
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>>171939418
5k

Wind Reader Zell, Captain Lecia, Support Cannon, Holy Bowman Kel
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>>171939550
Thanks Urias!
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>>171939617
well both odin and lightning is a brick if its against aggro or any aggresive deck.
Just that lightning is a tad less of a brick, but still a brick.
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>>171939418
About 20 rupies.
I don't want anything from new expansion.
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>>171939418
8k
Maelstrom Serpents and Blood Moons
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>>171939418
7k. I have no idea, I'll just end up getting a bunch of x1s and having the craft everything as usual.
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concede pls

47287
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>>171939418

I'm buying 3x Luminous Mage on day 1
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>>171938587
>people don't understand the strength of a card that carries removal that is necessary (banish) but can also be turned in to an ultimate board clear

Because this card exists it offers up so many ways that dragon can deal with peoples boards that they literally are forced to remove any medium to large threat off of dragons board or they will take a shitload of damage.

You can no longer fuck bahamut over with an unclearable Daria board, or drop a board full of Maelstrom serpents, or multiple wards and high health minions. Control Sword can't safely drop Roland if you have a board since you can remove her and the amulet the same turn without having to drop bahamut and kill your own shit.

There are more than a few times where opponents could flood a board with minions you couldn't remove all at once and you were forced to drop bahamut on top of your bahamut. Now you can just nuke their board and go face. The option of cucking over any of dragons minions with certain cards no longer exist, you are forced to have removal every turn or get hit by a big dude.
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The last 10 times or so they always had a Quickblader on hand turn 1.
ALWAYS.
HOW?
Mulligan for it or not they only have FUCKING THREE OF THEM.
EVERY SINGLE GAME THEY HAVE ONE THOUGH
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>>171939735
>tfw no doujins of forte with a big knotted dragon cock lodged in swordslut's ass
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>>171939791
Which craft would Kumiko be a leader for?
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>>171939418
And 5k vials so far.
Want pretty much most cards from Dragon and shadow.
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>>171939418
9k
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>>171939354
Intern-kun said it doesn't work like that. Go check their twitter.
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>>171939931
>play aggro sword
>always go 2nd
>it's always vanguard

I fucking hate days like that.
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>>171939605
>But it is exactly like themis where you can play it on t6....
not, it's exactly like pic related, except even worse.
now do you see anyone fawning over this card? why do you think that is?

yes, ramp gets a little more out of this card. it's still a decent card overall. but it really might just be winmore.

the 6pp effect is passive as fuck. and the 10pp effect is.. 10pp.
it won't contribute to your board or combo and it can only be played extremely late.
it's more balance than you'd think.
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>>171939952

Rune or forest because she's a stupid slut.
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>>171939952
Blood for the cute girls of course.
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>>171940039
Don't speak about my wife like that!
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Give me a concede please!

91745
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>>171940036
>not, it's exactly like pic related, except even worse.

Except Acolyte's Light cant banish amulets, baka.
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>>171939418
5.3K

3x Blood Moon, Belphegor and Magical Big Guy
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>>171939418
4k. I spent 10k gold in RoB, only to be greeted by daria and otk roach everywhere, so I'll be more careful this time.
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>>171940129
Thank you anon
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>>171939931
Same as every Haven getting turn 1 plea, every rune getting turn 1 insight, dragon passing the first three turns because they bricked again, etc.
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>>171939894
>Because this card exists it offers up so many ways that dragon can deal with peoples boards that they literally are forced to remove any medium to large threat off of dragons board or they will take a shitload of damage.
what am i even reading? you know that by playing this card, you're playing one less big dragondildo for your turns, right?

>bahamut on bahamut action
winmore
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I'll bet everything on my next draw.
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>>171939931
>against sword and they go 2nd.
>T1 Quickblader
>T2 Veteran lancer
>T3 novice trooper
>T4 Floral fencer
>T5 Albert
>T6 Alvidas command
ALWAYS
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>banish all followers and amuleta of the enemy board
>winmore
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>miss your 1-drop as turn 1 (and draw it on turn 2)
>lose to even DShift
>most reaches are from neutralcraft

So why is Aggro Shadow good again?
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>Evolve Levi
>Play Daria next without paying attention as I'm working at the same time I'm playing
>Banish away the 3 damage 1pp
>Levi's face when
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>>171940558
DShift has less than 20% winrate against Aggro Shadow. You just suck.
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What is luna school role?
kaichou or teaclub girl?librarian?
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>>171940558
learn how to handle reaper
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>>171939826
But why???
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>>171940558
>most reaches are from neutralcraft

What are you babbling about
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>>171933587
That's a slut not a miko.
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>>171940671
semen toilet
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>>171940336

>Bahamut: AKA Save my ass, I'm getting raped Dragon.

>Win more.

Son, you're dumb.
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>>171940671

Enkou
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>>171940336
>clear the board against everything
>win more
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>>171940336
Lets say blood drops a full maelstrom serpent board on you and you bahamut it.

If he plays maelstrom serpent again the next turn what are you going to do to his board without this card? You have no other way to clear serpents other than bahamut. But yeah, people like you think having this kind of board clear redundancy somehow makes this card bad.

This card fills the required Odin slot and gives you optional "fuck everything" to your opponents board if you desperately need it, and somehow you call it "winmore". On top of that its cheaper and allows you to drop a ward alongside it like Rahab or Grimnir if you use it late game. Odin completely fucked you because he was just a shitty desert rider and you'd rather have a minion with a useful effect like ward instead.
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>>171940671
Your imouto
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>>171940845
>>171940751
Delet
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>>171940806
The funny thing about Bahamut is with so much storm flying around, a board clear at 10pp is still often kinda useless against some classes.
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>>171940729
>aotw, dod, demonic strike, lyrial

The only class reaches are cerb, howl and rabbit necromancer.

>>171940675
So are you supposed to keep reaper in starting hand? I tried to do that when I have another 2PP or 1PP, but the result can vary.
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>>171940558
Aggro shadow is decent, should be quite easy against dshift. You should have 9 1pp followers. Dshift can win if your hand bricks or if he get lucky secrets of erasmus and hit your boosted reaper which literally never happens.
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>>171940946
You ALWAYS keep the Reaper no matter what, turn 4 Reaper play is how you win.
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>>171940939
That's why its nice to have a 6 mana removal for certain minions that you can also play a ward on the same turn. Rahab, Grimnir, or Imprisoned.

The only ward dragon could play alongside Odin was ding dong.
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is heavenly aegis immune to themis and tribunal and other non targeting nukes?
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>>171940880
Turn 9 for Grimnir+Blast at least, else you'd be paying the enhance cost
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>>171940946
Depends on who are you facing.

If it's a slow class that has area/non-target removal in the later phases you keep him. (For example dragon and haven)

If it's a fast class you drop it, since you'll then be able to play him in middle/late game when you have to trade lots of your weak stuff.
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>>171941198
yes
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>>171941198
just odin it
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>>171940946
>So are you supposed to keep reaper in starting hand? I tried to do that when I have another 2PP or 1PP, but the result can vary.
Generally no, but in a good starting hand you can keep him. Most japanese guides from gameai states that you should mulli him.
>The only class reaches are cerb, howl and rabbit necromancer.
Aggro Blood uses a lot of neutral cards too, face dragon also includes goblins, demonics, etc. Cygames don't want aggro to get too much tools, that's why they're destroying it in next expansion.
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>>171941198
>ALL effects

Yes.

Literally everything that isn't something that drops his attack does not work.
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Haha, swordcraft is broken.

I play havencraft, and I decided to build a sword deck to get 5 ranked victories.

5 victory in a row, with a deck I build without guide, only my instinct ( I only started 3 week ago, and never played others card before).
Only gold/platine cards were 1 albert, and 1 tsubaki.

Also, got the most exciting win against dragoncraft.

- Dont know how, but he managed to place Bahamut with 9/9.
- I tsubaki
- He place another bahamut
- Koga Kunoichi, I was laughing because he couldn't attack cause I had 2 ambushed follower.
- He place odin, but couldn't banish them
- Albert + evolve : 10 damages + 6 from my double koga.

Albert is broken, I won 3 of my 5 victories only with albert.
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>>171941627
post your rank.
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>>171941246
You're right. I forgot about his enhance as well. I guess you can't play both on turn 10 unless you have a 1 drop as well.

No idea why they thought it was necessary to fuck us over with enhance, is giving the game more optional choices really such a bad thing?
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>>171932373
no

have fun with vengeance activated righteous devil on turn 4 every second game though
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>>171941729
C2
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>>171941729
he's playing koga he's in the way lower ranks
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>>171941796
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>>171941893

This. Koga is a decent T2 card and that's it.

Anyone running that shit at a decent rank in constructed will get HOSED.
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>>171941198
EVERYTHING
EVERY SINGLE CARD
THAT DOESNT AFFECT STATS DIRECTLY
EVERYTHING
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>tfw luna is the best cute and your friend
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>>171941984
>and your friend
so you're dead?
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>>171941961
It's 6 garanted damages next turn, and it counter bahamut. Not bad for a low cost deck imo. I planed to used with with banner for 8 damages, but bahamut destroyed it.
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>>171936347
this has to be a lie
I feel really bad for you if it isn't
never trust /svg/ on what cards are "good"
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>>171941796
Ah, makes sense.

Just remember that beginner-AA3 is this game's tutorial.
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>>171942041
the living know, shut it down
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>>171941938
Well I am a beginner, but I can see a problem with the low budget/high efficiency of swordcraft.
Really struggle with climb rank with haven when you only fight against sword and rune.
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>- The order of cards in your hand will now appear randomized to your opponent
For what purpose?
>>
The arena rewards in this game sucks ass, its either you get 4+ wins or you lose in gold. I dont give a fuck about constructed but every time I get less than 4 wins I want to uninstall.
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>>171941984
Not anymore, Luna chan, i go back to honest craft.
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>>171942103

It's not a bad card for a C2 deck that can't afford better alternatives.
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>>171942103
Doesn't bahamut ignore ambush followers though? I haven't really tested it, but it wouldn't make sense if he couldn't.
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>>171942247
>he doesn't check the card of the opponent
sometimes you can see them having 2 roachs in hand this way, also you know what card they have topdecked.
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>>171942247

Less salt about top dicks.
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>>171942247
So you can't read what he's having in his hand based on topdecks. I think in pretty much any IRL card game professionals will stock their cards to avoid people reading their hand.
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>>171942247
To stop the opponent from taking notes of the card orders in your hand. This is to mimic shuffling which is a common practice in physical TCG.
>>
>Rank lost
>Rank lost
>Rank lost
>Rank lost
YOU SAID YOU COULDN'T LOSE RANKS

How the fuck am I supposed to play this anymore without getting anxious as fuck? Fuck.
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>>171927052
Death's Breath and Tyrant still work and those are the only ones you care about.
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>>171942287
Well, you spend gold to have some fun and you still get your pack in the worst case scenario.
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>>171942341
no, ambush is like shroud which means can't be targeted.
Bahamut's effect is AOE.
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>>171942537

You can't drop out of a letter, but you can fall all the way from 3 back to 0.
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>>171942537
You can't fall down from A0 to B3, but you can fall down from A1 to A0.
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>>171942537
Well to be fair and in defense of this general

The only way you would know that you could lose ranks is if you suck
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>>171942537
you can't lose rank(letter) but you can lose rank(number)
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>>171942625
>>171942631
Yup, I did figure out as much as soon as it happened, but come on.

I was at 3 and now I fell back to 2 and the chance of a loss streak taking me back to 0 is killing me.
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>>171942558
>turn 10 13/13 storm or 3 2/3 wards

Nice.
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>>171942537
Git gud, scrub.
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>>171941984
She's also my daughterwife.
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>cerberus
>legendary
>7 mana
>4 damage
>2 of which is conditional and requires a minion that can attack on that turn
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>>171942591
Don't know about the fanfare effect.

But Bahamut can't attack leader if there is 2 or more followers. 2 ambushed followers prevent bahamut from attacking the leader.
>>
How will /svg/ approach Take Two when Standard and the 4 drop evos leave the format?
>>
>>171942403
>>171942452
>>171942523
I do, that's why I'm asking why they're changing it. It's not like it breaks the game and the other guy can do it too.
The only reason I can think of is >>171942421
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>>171942738

>Also generates 3 shadows.

Preeety good.
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>>171942729
Amazing card. Your point?
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>>171942559

Yeah but I would rather sell my pack for gold rather than have the pack at all. This game has a no friendly zone for people who want to play arena all day.
>>
>>171942796
Try out all new classes and then fire up excel and make a shitty Take 2 tierlist for the newfriends
>>
So anyone want to explain the aggro is going to die next expansion meme to me?
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>>171942985
BANE
STORM
WARD
A
R
D
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>>171942985

Cblood is 100% viable now, and they eat aggro for breakfast.
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>>171942985
Svg predicts are always accurate, just trust your comrades, anon.
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Stop playing NepNep already it's a dead fucking deck next week.

Reeeeeeeeee
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>>171942985
sword got roland which will kill combo decks and give dshift more struggle
aggro has less free wins to feed on
as more players start to play defensively, dshift breaks out again and the aggro player will come out of the woodwork again
thus killing aggro
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>Win 1 Haven
>Win 1 Private
>Win 6 Ranked
>Reroll the fucking pack mission for some jew gold
>Win 1 Dragon
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>>171943112
on last cucking before the eternal sleep
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>>171943291
>rerolling the free pack
lmaoing at you
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So Deepwood Anomaly basically wins the game unless you ward/remove it? Isn't that just a shittier Seraph?
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>>171943368
That's what everybody's been saying.
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>>171942985
Not sure if they are going to die, but it's obvious that this expansion is more focused on control decks than aggro decks, and control is aggro's toughest matchup.

I feel like some of these trading card games are favoring faster decks by design though, so there's a chance that all of the control decks will fail. If that's the case then around 75% of the cards this expansion are useless.
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>>171942985
>turn 4
>heal 4 hp
>remove a card
>leave a 4/x with bane and drain on board
it's over lads
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>>171943291
>people reroll the free pack

lmao how stupid can you get
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>>171943368
yes

I'd just like to thank based cygame for giving us so many great tools in every expansion so far
>>
>>171943557
It's only value if you don't have most of the cards from the classic pack.
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>>171943707
>250+ vials
>>
>>171943351
>>171943557

Because 120 vials are so useful, right?
>>
>>171943707
it's dust value
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Dimensional Jounouchi

Rarity: Legendary

20pp Runecraft

Activate coinflip to determine the winner

Spellboost: substract 1 more
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>>171943368
Will it can also be evolved and trade with minions, so there are some small benefits with it compared to seraph. I don't think it's a good win-condition though.
>>
does it feel weird playing softcore hentai card games?

feels surprisingly cool to me. this game is qt af
>>
>play mid range sword cuz no alberts lol
>win 5 ranked games mission
>win 4 games as sword mission
>4 Lunas in a row
Do you want me to quit this fucking game Cygames?
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>>171943809
I love it, you don't even need to combo it with another Dshift or Flame Destroyer.
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>>171943809
It's shit
>>
So who actually counters Elana?
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>>171943958
you are cute af
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>>171943809
>not best of 3 coin flips
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>>171944036
Bahamut and haven's hard removal. Also, earth rite's banishes/transforms, I guess
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>>171944160
So what if I am Blood?
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>>171943809
Still less rng than HS.
>>
It is turn 8
I am playing Havencraft
I have 2 pegasus statues on the board
the enemy has exactly 18 hp left
I play 3 gobu'd kels and one love's gospel and end my turn

What happens?
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>>171944214

Run execution and hope for the best.
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Can you guess what happens next?
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Can I have a quick rundown on whatever mechanic it is that allows sword to have 2-3 Alberts in their hand by turn 8 every single game?

Most people don't even play any maid leaders.

This fucking deck is seriously the worst thing to ever happen to this game. I'd rather play against roach all day again than this shit.
>>
Unica in midsword to help the mirror and other aggro matchups?
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>>171944264
You win the game.
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>>171944214
Aggro Blood can race them if the dont draw Lion
Control Blood cleanly wins the MU, Elana falters to big burst damage and big clears, which presumably you have. Just grind their hand out of cards or try to find a 2TK.
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>>171944327
Evolve Imp Lancer and you died?
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>>171944327
You lose anyway
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Post JO lists.
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>>171944264
Elana OTK soon
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>>171944412
No big clear until turn 8
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>>171944264
19 dmg

Otk haven eh? I guess you can tutor with gobu and pegasus statue. But can elana afford to ditch other 2 cost follower? How are you going to survive aggro?
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>>171944520
How are you not keeping up temp with Elana prior to turn 6 at least? They cant get any good buff memes going before then unless they pop Beastcall on turn 6, how are you losing?
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>>171944607
*and pegasus statue with uriel
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>>171944348
lot of aggro decks run unica because of this reason
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>>171944431
>>171944473
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>>171944714
why Uriel when you have the priestess?
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>>171944675
Because double elana amulet lions are hitting 8/8?
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>>171944607

>But can elana afford to ditch other 2 cost follower? How are you going to survive aggro?

Temple defender and scriptures?
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>>171944959

Temple is 3 though.
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Concede please 62454
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>>171945040
Yes, so she doesn't get pulled by gobu.

Haven has the heal to take some hits from aggro and comeback, not sure if they can afford 8PP to drop 2 sculpture before t8

Will test it.
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>>171945180
pegasus is 3pp so you can drop 2 the turn before.
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>be AA1
>get matched against Master with 10k score
epic
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TOG WHEN?
WHEEEEN?
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>>171945309
Oh, it's not 4?
More feasible then.
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>>171945356
EZ 150 points.
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>>171945356
ez +150
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>>171945418
>>171945420
>second Daria turn 6
yeah no
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Is it just me or is forestcraft underpowered compared to the other leaders?
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post wins
judge others
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>>171945384

Is it sad that I can immediately identify what anime character those eyes and mouth belong to?

Also, 5 days
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>9 turn game
>floral fencer on 4
>tsubaki on 6
>3 alberts

i love these decks that literally cannot draw badly
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>>171943785
No but 1000 vials are
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>>171945520
To be fair she does have an extremely recognizable face. Very punchable, too.
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>>171945496
kys swordfag
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>>171945482
>is forestcraft underpowered
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>>171945581
Me too, I will have so much fun as sword
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>>171945080
Still waiting
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>>171945482
it's in an awkward spot right now

you can blame roach for limiting design space
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>>171945496
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>>171933620
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>>171945496
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>>171945482
it's not just you
it's a combo class which means it's naturally weaker than the others
when the combos all come together, it can activate strong effects
so cygames nerfed it 3 times and now the combos never come together so everyone is happy

fun fact: sylvan justice is the only fairy generator that isn't an understated do nothing card
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>>171945816
Fucking cancer
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>>171945897
>1 blood win

unfaithful.
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>sword goes first
>drop floral on turn 4
I would pity him if he was worth pitying
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Woof.
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>>171938894
Appreciate the insight, Anon.
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>>171943112
I'm deliberately playing more than I usually do, using 2578 Nep and ranking up
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>play dshift in unranked
>people get supermad
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>>171945962
Don't be a meanie
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>>171940558
>So why is Aggro Shadow good again?
phantom howl is really strong
it's like how aggro blood is carried by razory claw and also has a handful of other cards that are arguably good
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>>171946036
Love doing this when I have 2 in my hand
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>>171945897
>it's this guy again
my condolences
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>>171945993
Never do dailies while shitting anon
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>>171945496
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does this game have cool skeletons?
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What is the least cancer and most fair deck? I don't want to be a bad guy
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>>171945496
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>>171946303
daria
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85643 concede plz
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>>171946167
Sorry
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>>171946303
Dshift
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You know what Albert is?
He is fucking Combo Druid from HS all over again
Over a magical HP range all game AND keep his board empty or you lose instantly
Fun fun
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>>171946371
Is she getting the futa D in this pic?
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>>171946303
>least cancer and most fair

Default deck
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What is the cutest class in terms of leader and cards?
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>>171946303
Everything that doesn't do anything. That means no storms, no fanfare deal damage, no rush, no burn spells, no pure removal deck. In Shadowverse terms, its the worst deck possible, because you lose to everything. Aggro kills you, because your card didn't immediately impact the game state, while ALL their cards do that, and control kills you, because everything you play is removed.

Honest and fair are synonyms for bad in card games. YGO players are especially familiar with that, because of how power creep reliant cards are to be playable.
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>>171946341
Are you angry, anon?

Angry about elves?
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>>171946346
With the piercing rune nerf, it actually is.
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>>171946523
Blood with Vania as leader.
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>>171945496
90% of those shadow wins are from midrange in DE I shit you not
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>>171946494
>when you are so brainded that need to quote HS in all the posts
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>>171945496
I really should get around to finishing the Adept flair. Deviant Heart is still the best though.
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>>171946303
Neutralcraft decks are the most honest.
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>>171946139
>play dshift
>cuck every single control, seraph, dirt, neph and saha ramp in existence
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>>171945897
Do you just dust every other craft's cards

>>171945816
this screams Elana in DE, and Daria/Roach in RoB - how's ez mode?

>>171946259
impressive length
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>>171945496
H-hear my newfag roar.
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>>171946360
plz help me
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>try an albert netdeck
>enemy havencraft
>he's seraph with 20 anti-aggro cards
>playing only wards and heals from turn 2 onwards
>his ancient lion clears 5 minions
>themis on curve

lmao easy turn 9 win

why did they make albert so broken?
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>>171946752
>this screams Elana in DE
I play since January so no hehe
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Okay I've had it
Someone post the d shift list

If you can't beat them
Join them
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>>171946582
Yes.

Also angry about not getting Ancient MILF.
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>>171945496
>mfw I'm lumped with unga retards when over 300 of these wins are CBlood from PtP Elf standard era back when I was in A0
You people don't know the true suffering Blood and Haven were prior to DE.
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>>171946887
Just play aggro
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>>171946787
arigatou luna-chan
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>>171945496
Sure.
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>>171946269
How cool we're speaking?
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>>171946303
shadowcraft is the most honest and fair craft in the game which is why it attracts so many autists who come to /svg/ to whine about haven
midrange blood and control sword are also pretty fair imo, since they're basically aggroized versions of "real" control decks (midblood by choice, csword because sword is only for unga)
if you're one of those dumbasses who thinks that making a super greedy deck that lets you ram a thick veiny bundle of vials through the lategame is "fair" and any more interactive than a pure burst damage strategy, you can always spring for neutralcraft
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Need a concede, please

92458
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>>171947235
Can it even get cooler than that?
Besides the Skeleton King Leoric, may he rest in eternal peace.
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>>171947235
>even the fucking dragons have anime eyes
I hate this game
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>>171947235
i'm not sure if the viper's eyes make it worse or much better
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>>171947529
uguu~
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>>171947367
>Phantom Howl and Khawy are the best cards in the class
>Honest
Shadowbabs are as delusional as ever. Don't worry, commissar Rowen and Fuhrer Eris will put you out of your misery.
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Why Tsubaki is only 6pp?
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>>171947440
Thanks, Cerb
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>>171946916
Maybe if you grind out the 100K score reward, you can open an animated soccer mom like I did.

It's actually pretty shit since the Ward visual effect just completely eclipses the animation.
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>>171947482
Yes, evolved animated skeleton viper, but I have no webm of it
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>>171947367
>Khawy
>fair
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>>171947482
I can try
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>>171947760
You don't like your opponent going +2 just from dropping a 4/5 ward on the board?
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>>171947529
>>171947537
I'm sure you guys won't even notice in-game!
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>>171947367
This is the most retarded shit I've ever read.
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>>171947235
>>171947529
>>171947592
>>171947834
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>>171947652
because it's literally useless against aggro decks and too slow against midsword
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>>171946303
Forest. You have to think twice as hard as other crafts for equal or less results.

Rune is the most cancer craft.
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>6 more days

I don't think I can handle it..
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>>171947482
This dude is the closest thing to Leoric. They have the same reincarnation ability.
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>>171947945
>cancer since the beta
>nerfed for the third time, finally dropping tier 1
>suddenly it's the fair craft
Treefuckers should kill themselves
>>
If you can't include a definition of the word "honest" when referencing deckbuilding, don't bother including it. It's just a meme at this point with no concrete meaning.
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>>171947613
yeah khawy is ridiculous but how is phantom howl not fair? it requires 2 resources, necromancy and pp, requires an empty board for full effect and leaves no board presence behind, and each ghost having 1 attack means they get cucked pretty hard by wards
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>>171947613
>>171947760
the individual cards don't matter, the structure of the game matters
compared to aggro shadow, every aggro deck is better at putting you into a critical situation where most if not all of your cards are irrelevant
compared to control shadow, every control deck in the game is better at putting you into a situation where anything you could possibly do on your turn is irrelevant
shadow decks of all archetypes play closer to midrange than archetypes of other classes do, which makes them more honest than those other classes
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>>171948141
>>171947873
You keep breaking records. Please, keep going.
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>>171947945
>homecoming tier s before being nerfed
>ptp tier s before being nerfed
>roach tier s before being nerfed
kill yourself fairycuck, stop pretending you're a victim of anything
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>>171948141
Ok but where exactly did you get the idea from that midrange is (((honest)))
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I don't have a deck for Dragon outside of jank I throw together for the GB event.
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Need a quick concede
29837
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>>171948330
You are going to regret it because Dragon will soon be tier 1
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>>171945482
It is on par with blood the shittiest class right now but cblood has the bonus of being good vs Daria. It may change when the new expansion hits but I am not optimistic. Cygames seem to have a grudge against forest in particular.
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>>171948051
I hope they release the expac already. Im tired of waiting to play the most honest craft that will be good when it drops.

I'm talking about Sword
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>>171945496
>tfw rushing 200 shadow wins before ToG comes out
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>>171948410
I haven't managed to pull even meme cards for Dragon, so I barely have anything outside of the general bronze and silver cards.
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>>171948468
Forest has the second highest winrate out of all classes, roachsexual autist.
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>>171948408
Thanks dragonbro
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>>171948629
>>
Is A rank still safe to do dailies fast?

I keep trying to stay on b rank just so I can do dailies easily.
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>put avant blader in my deck
>winrates is now 2 times better

And /svg/ told me Avant is bad...
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>>171948731
she is bad

but /svg/ is also bad
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>>171948468
>literally tier 1 since the beta
>Cygames seems to have a grudge against Forest
Kill yourself petclass cancer. I hope you die from all the Roach dick you suck.
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>>171948690
A is netdeck central. it doesn't have people trying to meme like higher ranks, and it doesn't have newbies like lower ranks. The players might not be as good as AA2+, but none of them run jank, everyone is bringing fotm cancer.
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>playing against shadow as seraph
>play nothing but 2 banish spells until turn 8
>win
glad to see that shadow still is, and will forever be, a free win for haven
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>>171948690
It's barely any different.
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>>171948553
Shadow is going to be t1 next expansion, you're dumb if you think otherwise

>b-b-but muh 10 mana board clear is gonna save dumpstercraft
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>>171948690
How about in unranked in A?
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>>171948870
This has to be someone falseflagging shadowbabs.

How are you going to deal with swordshit?
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>>171948846
>play dshift against seraph
>maggot drops the shit angel turn 8
>SAA TOBUWAYO

gg
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>>171948840
This is bullshit, they are netdecking but they are complete garbage at the game. I climbed through that shithole with the jankiest aggro discard dragon deck.

The game only gets mildly difficult at AA, because most people know what they're doing at that point.
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>>171945496
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>>171948986
Please don't spread this around, but I know a combo nobody else has thought of yet.
Mordecai + Test of Strength, fuck you that's how.
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>>171949007
I don't know, I personally remember struggling at A2 more than I did at any point in AA.
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>>171948976
Meant for
>>171948840
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>>171945496
so much non-believers
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>>171926972
>no removal
>3) No extra summons other than Destroyers
This will literally never happen, roland will barely change the match up
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>>171924370
Will Fangblade see inclusion in control sword next expansion?
>>
Yesss keep praising Dragoncraft. Meanwhile me and my Sworbabs will be the ones that will really rule because we are the real T1 craft.

Why? Because we are the most honest craft there is.
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>>171949275
He is a officer so no
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>>171949275
Of course, you need the bane followers to get rid of Aegis :^)
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>>171948976
Unranked is total cointoss, you get anything from memes to tier decks.

I started playing mostly ranked after having to play against 5 control blood in row in unranked as aggro for dailies.
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Why is dragon slayer price gold and lightning blast silver? Meme decks are so much more expensive.
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>>171949260
>barely
Just a 5% increase in Sword's favor makes the match up 50/50.
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>>171949260
The idea is to force them to shift early, with 1-2 destroyers and shifts
Sure, with a good enough draw you can win the game by turn 7, but this is contingency.
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>>171949105
Lightning blast banish amulet too so that shit won't work bro.
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>>171949393
>he'd rather the meme decks be cheap and the good decks expensive

then go play hearthstone you fuck
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>>171949349
We don't even know if commandercraft will be better than regular CSword. Don't spread nonsense.
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>>171948731
>>171948814
someone told me avant blader was an auto win in T2 and they had to remover her
any truth to that?
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Why """"""midrange""""" sword starting to play Fangblade now?
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>top decks daria on t9
>alberto doesnt come through for lethal
fair
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>op dragon slayer deck
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>>171949105
sounds terrible if that'll be shadow's game plan next expansion
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>>171949503
>
Who said that retard?
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>>171949476
>swordshit suddenly has lightning blast
nobody is going to be playing dragon next expac, it's literally all going to be midsword and mid earth rite rune, maybe a bit of control elf and blood

know your fucking place dragonbabby, you're never going to be good
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>>171949547
>starting
Fuck this, I've been playing it from day 1.
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>>171949596
>dariatumor
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>>171949660
>mid earth rite rune
kek
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>>171949660
You mean aggro sword with 2 gaiwen? Roland is unless against dragon now since the amulet is shit.
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>>171949547
8cost kill a ward +deal 3 face and demands an answer along with another ward if you don't want to get IKUZO'D turn 9.
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>>171949541
What? Avant is still in T2. Also, yes. She's insanely strong in T2 because she can draw 2 rush/storm follower like Jeno/Trooper.

She's strong in constructed too. People just don't see her in the netdeck midrange sword list. That's why /svg/ call Avant bad.
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>>171949660
>my shit won't get banished, Dragon won't be relevant, Dirt Rune will
Are you retarded?
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>>171949547
>deals 3 damage and removes a ward to clear a path for albert
>will do the same thing again unless you play dod which wastes 5 mana not playing a ward to guard against albert
sword literally has all the answers
if they ever print a healing card for them it will be the only class that can do everything better than anyone else
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>>171949731
Just smash dat concede button.
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>>171949660
Literally can't wait to shit all over sword tumors with control blood.

Gonna have to tech in some cards so I can shit on d-shift as well. Blood Moon/Belph + Baphomet with 6 PP maelstrom serpents might be enough though.
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new:
>>171950264
>>171950264
>>171950264
>>171950264
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>>171948050
>>171948309
Ptp was op because of altered fate not forest cards. Cygames chose forest as the scapegoat because they were too lazy to fix altered fate and ptp. Harvest Festival and homecoming was completely fine. Roach deck was the most fair combo deck ever. 1000 times fairer than dshift which has been dominating the meta forever.
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>>171950102
>maelstrom serpents might be enough though

>drops a golem
>plays 20 damage fire chain
>0 cost dshift
>0 cost flame destroyer x2
>8 cost dshift next turn
psssssht
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>>171950386
>20 damage fire chain on turn 6

Nice larping runefag
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>>171950314
>Ptp was op because of altered fate not forest cards. Cygames chose forest as the scapegoat because they were too lazy to fix altered fate and ptp.
Yeah it was definetely Altered Fate's fault, that's why PtP Forest was the only viable PtP deck ever.
>Roach
>fair
You are a retard. The deck had 56% winrate. The top Master player was piloting it with a 70% winrate. It could combo you consistently at turn 7 while also having a strong early game. It was much worse than DShift on almost every way.
Go back to fucking trees and insects, elfcancer.
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>>171926394
No because i'm not a dubcuck.
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>>171950732
Ptp was strong because forest generates a lot of tokens. Nothing more. If token didnt count as shadows. Ptp forest would be unviable. Is generating tokens op? Your logic fails. High masters always have 70% winrate. The top master has 70% winrate in de and rob.

Dshift is undeniably worse because it is otk and nothing counters it. Ptp as we have seen now can be countered by destroying the amulet.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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