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Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Tools for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
http://sv.bagoum.com

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

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>>171924370
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reminder that you should all be hating sword together
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Reminder That Minthe pleases old filthy men for shadows
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>>171950372
Where mah Swordbabs at???

We honest! We good!

We best craft!
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>>171950372
>hating the most honest deck

???
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>mfw playing storm haven against sun guardian
Is there any way to win this match up at all?
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Poll results

Which leader would be the best erotic dancer?
129 votes
33% Isabelle
17% Forte
15% Arisa
12% Eris
11% Erika
8% Vania
5% Luna

Which leader would be the most open to trying period sex?
124 votes
45% Vania
12% Isabelle
12% Forte
10% Arisa
9% Erika
9% Eris
6% Luna

New polls:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12597946

http://www.strawpoll.me/12597951
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Are you guys using Fangblade Slayer in
'''''''''''' midrange sword '''''''''''' ?
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Sexy 17 year old.
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>>171945496
Relatively new Dirt rune represent
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>>171950372
>hating based sword
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OTK roach was the only deck where I actually spent hours looking back at my replays and asking myself what I could have done better. I know for a fact I wasn't the only one. Many of you in this thread did the same and would post replays frequently asking for advice when you got stumped. I wouldn't be surprised if not a single sword player has ever done this. Not even once. This midrange sword deck nets a better, more well rounded winrate than otk ever did, and for how much work? You just play your storm minions on curve over and over again. If you win, great! If not, oh, too bad, you didn't get the best draws so it isn't your fault. These is no "oh, I could have improved this play".
There is no debating if you should play out the incomplete combo, just to scare your opponent away from playing seraph, or going face when you can't remove their board. You just drop albert and hope for the best.
There is no critical decisions on the combination of may, wotf, and pixie mischief. You just play tsubaki and then go face.
You don't hold onto a card because it will be useful to you 5 turns later. You just play your minions on curve. It will work out for you 55% of the time, and when it doesn't? No sweat! There was literally nothing you could have done. No room for improvement! It's not your fault!
Many people here say otk had a win rate of 70% but that is false. One master ranked player had that win rate and everyone else had a 52% at best. Funny right? A guy who practiced and analyzed his deck, constantly perfecting it and studying his replays managed to get a 70% win rate. Isn't that what you want in a card game? A skilled player, who puts forth effort wins the majority of the time while everyone else playing his exact deck has the win rate of a coin flip? That is what every card game should strive for. But they killed it, just so the average joe who couldn't care less about studying a game can win automatically 55% of the time. As long as he's climbing, he's happy.
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>>171950556
Her thighs are unnaturally large.
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>>171950574
>how do you do fellow teenage sluts
You're not fooling anyone hag, go back to knitting sweaters for your cats.
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Damn, i see that Rowen maymay everywhere now, even on Japanese websites. 4chan truly is an internet meme machine.
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>>171950645
the word you're looking for is "thicc"
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>>171950579
It's impressive that you found the best deck so early on. Most people never learn that Earth Rite rune is the #1 deck when you know how to truly pilot it.
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>>171950556
No that's only for poor people without tsubaka
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So how does storm haven work?
I'm asking because I'll probably craft some Garuda's to make the deck and want to know how it plays.
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>>171950774
links wich one?
pls be my edit
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>>171950645
> unnaturally

It's almost like she's fictional.
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>>171950774
Which one? The smile?
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>>171950736
>17 y/o is hag
pedofucks
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>>171950876
>Tsubaka

I swear I remember one anon being dumb shit and repeating that mistake all the time.
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>>171950932
Curve and win.

overvalue and use free 3 ping +storm followers to run face
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>>171950932
Try to have your Storm amulets pop at the same time.
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>>171950574
17? I thought she was a hot mom.
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>>171950932
Early game set up, explode turns 5-7. You are a tempo deck, so just go face if you have control over the board or can lethal from hand the following turn. Against aggro, look for removal and your 2 drops, mull away amulets.
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>>171950876
Tsubaka is good, but I regret crafting two of them. I'd be happy with just one. Too many matchups where it's unusable for most of the game
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>>171945496
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hmm shadowbbs?
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>>171950825
Yeah, it's a shame I don't have enough vials to make much outside of the commons for the deck, so I just have to make do with commons and whatever I happen to pull from packs.

If you've got any suggestions, I'll happily take them as my primary win condition is "beefed up golems," which does me okay down here in B0, but won't do me shit later on
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>>171951551
>cow
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>>171950594

>Roach math
>Hard

Brainlets need not apply.
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>>171950594
Rip roach deck 2017. I will remember tfw I watched replay and realized I missed lethal.
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>>171951551
We don't approve of pedos in this general regardless of gender.
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>>171950825
I respect earth rite deck players more than anything else
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pls someone give the of link sv chaneru with Eris
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>>171951609
Your late game is entirely up to you. Guardian Golem spam is a good one to stall out most games until your opponent is in topdeck mode and then overwhelm with 3/3 Wards. Satan and Olivia can help this process.

You definitely want 3x Calamitious Curse, 3x Levi would be useful, and the 5 mana card that performs ER - put 3 guardian golems in your hand
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>>171951143
It's a meme. She's voiced by Kikuno Inoue who always refers to herself in public as "17 years old + XXXX days" even though she was born in 1964.
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Why is she so sad?
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>>171951823
Because noone is going to run her after a week
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>>171951823
Because nobody is going to use her 2 weeks after the expansion drops, because SahaLuci is still 10x better?
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>>171951773
>pedos call this unironically hag
SAD
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>>171951823
Go to wikipedia and you'll understand.
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>>171950594
You roach apologists are the worst. That deck was far too strong and you need to get over your "thinking man's" deck.
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>>171950476
Right here!
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>>171950594
>this is what Roachbabs actually believe.
I guess you think playing Daria Turn 7 is hard too, don't you?
Shadowverse isn't a hard game, just combo based unless you're playing against Control Decks/Khawy Shadow. The only deck that requires you to have a functioning brain to know how to play it is Earth Rite
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>>171951778
Yeah, those are definitely cards I'm working towards.

Would it be worth it to throw a Baha I pulled into this? I'm scared of it bricking my hand and/or destroying my own sigils and defeating the purpose.
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Is there any reason why havencraft players dont use acolytes light anymore?
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>>171951773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIT9UrFpcEY
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>>171951976
>wah, I only had a 40% wr with roach but other people kept on beating me with it so I hate it xD
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>tfw want to switch from dragon to sword
>have no sword cards except otohimes and alexander
Suffering
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>>171950264
Which deck should I make, white wolf or roach forestcraft?
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>>171952123
Storm would always rather the 2 damage than the banish effect

Elana doesn't need it because it trades with minions

Seraph doesn't need single target removal like that
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>>171952123
Did they ever?
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>>171952250
I've been doing good with dance of death but shadow has been shitting on me with khawy lately and its starting to annoy me
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>>171950372
I forgot how much whining goes on in CCG generals
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39090
requesting concede please
emote three times if you need a concede as well
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HELP!
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>>171952403
shut up albertfag, no one likes you
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FIVE MORE DAYS BOYS
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>>171952483
exhibit 78
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>>171951908
>>171951916
C0?
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Storm was a mistake.
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>>171951551
>She will never be the plump leader dragon deserves
Flat and skinny Dork a shit.
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>>171952634
t. ((((control))))
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>>171952578
Eat shit
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>>171952426
thank you, erika
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>>171952039
>>171951664

t. shitters who dusted all their forest cards
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>roach having 54% winrate isn't fine
>but suddenly albertcraft is
so /svg/ is mostly sword players?
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Give me your best Eris pics, preferably lewd
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>>171950594
People posted lethal puzzles and even guides to otk deck. No one posted how to play against roach deck. They just whined. It is really pathetic.
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>>171952648
If you want that shit you can play rune right away.
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>>171952685
OTOHIME SAMA
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>>171952843
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>only have shadow reaper on board to threaten lethal against dshift
>secrets of erasmus
THOUGHT HE WAS SAFE. WELP.
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>>171952913
Isabelle only has big tits though, she's not plump.
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just realized alexander is going to get buffed by that amulet too
will the cannon effect take place before or after the buff?
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>>171952685
>moonrune name
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>>171952843
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>>171952843
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>>171952983
Except I'm not American, you fuck
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>>171952685
>Zaza
what did he mean by this
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>>171952915
GA MAMORISHIMASU
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>>171953063
>only Americans can be weeaboos
?
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welp, shouldn't i get matched against A1 players?
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>>171953101
My name? That's Kanji for "strength/power"
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Stop playing dshift in unranked you mother of fucks.

STOP.
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Is the right most card when you open packs always a silver or higher?
I've opened about 15 standard packs and I open from right to left.
15 of the 15 packs the right one was always silver.
13/15 packs the rest were bronze. Remember always open packs left to right.
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>>171953018
So is Vampy a Vampire, Werewolf, or Semen Demon?
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>>171952825
roach had a 52% winrate
and yes /svg/ is almost entirely sword players
everyone was advised to play banner when starting out because it was dirt cheap and a strong deck
then they all just moved on to midrange or control sword once they got more vials
up until the release of bahamut expansion the most replied to posts were ones about avant blader in banner decks
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>>171953063
Since when is being American a prerequisite to being a weeb?

Unless you're Japanese you're a weeb, anon.
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>>171953120
>>171953063
>use japanese name
>english client
>not a weaboo
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>>171953206
______no
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>>171953206
What the fuck am I supposed to use to get my rune dailies done?

Daria? Just as bad. Dirt rune? Don't have the cards because why the fuck would anyone play that?
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>>171953175
sometimes you get matched against people above your skill level, but you lose 70 and win 150 so it's not too bad
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>>171953181
>kanji
why is it hiragana though
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>>171953175
HOLY SHIT HE'S A BRO
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>>171953356
dirt rune you cock sleeve
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>>171952685
>AA
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>>171953206
>play ranked
>dshift everywhere
>play unranked
>dshift everywhere

Why won't people just die?
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>>171953443
>just take extra long and lose all your matches so I don't have to deal with it
I'm already playing rune, I don't want to prolong my suffering any more than I have to
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>>171953272
That's because sword is the most fun to play.
No "I win" cards. Cute maids, strong dudes. A class that's strong but not horribly so.

Everyone would like Dragon more if Forte was the free leader.
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>>171953272
>and yes /svg/ is almost entirely sword players
You mean shadow players?
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Will TotG finish off Hearthstone for good?
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If you buy a single alt leader, does the leader bundle go down in price?
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>>171953767
More like ToG will finish SV for good if anything.
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>>171953704
>but not horribly so
keep telling yourself that
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>>171953767
They've timed an expansion shortly after TotG drops, sunk cost fallacy isn't going away any time soon
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>>171953767
What do they even do?
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>guy plays sahaquiel
>she summons sahaquiel
MADMAN
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>>171953790
Nope
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>>171953398
>forte
>A bro
How can she even charge that crystal
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>>171953767
I dunno. The price hikes are worrying, but Un'goro looks fun. The only real problem is that fun doesn't equal good and the meta will continue to be shit until the next expansion possibly.
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>>171953885
>Saha summoned Saha's don't summon an additional Saha
dead gaem
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I just had dragon player drop 2 genesis dragns and a forte on me on t7

And these faggots whine about their bullshit class being weak
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Please help with this private quest.

33062
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>>171953931
It's of the right size and shape for shaving inside her wide vagoo
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>>171953965
>and the meta will continue to be shit until the next expansion possibly.
What's it like saying this every single expansion?
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>>171953931
>Implying Forte Dragon dick isn't 3x bigger than Rowen's
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>>171953767
>ルナのマグだよ
cute
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>elana haven
Just wait a few days, Eris chan.
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>>171953991
Thank you Aiela.
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>>171953767
It sure would be a good time to have a crystal sale.
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>>171953379
anon exposing weebs? HAHAHA
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I honestly am waiting for the expansion not just because of the new cards but because a lot of you are so fuck wrong with your opinions on the new cards it's so fucking funny.

Israfil bad?
Dark Jeanne bad?
Gawain useless?
Roland unusable?

Holy fuck you guys are so bad.
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>>171954289
Make proper list
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>play against shadow
>never draw any of my countdown reduction cards or banishes
fuck this shit
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>>171953704
>"sword is most fun"
>not combo decks
>not decks with higher skillcaps
>not decks where you have multiple plays per turn
>not decks where you sometimes decide to float mana or save resources
>decks where you just play followers on curve every turn with almost no decision making is the most fun you can have in these games

Its sad because the design philosophy of these shitty hearthstone-style games probably makes it true.
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>>171954289

>Dark Jeanne
>usable

You realize she's in the 6-slot right?

Meaning she has to compete with some of Haven's strongest cards.
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>>171952685
Cute emblem.
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>>171937326
Just hit dickshift in the benis.
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>>171954289
>Gawain useless?
>Roland unusable?
maybe a few (read 1 or 2) retards said these but most of /svg/ doesn't believe that in the slightest
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Purest form of love
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>>171954289
>Israfil bad?
Outside of ramp, 9PP is a lot

>Dark Jeanne bad?
Yes, she's pretty bad. No deck who really wants her.

>Gawain useless?
What kind of moron thinks that he's useless?

>Roland unusable?
Roland is good too. Just won't stop dickshitters.
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>>171954289
>Israfil
Usable but not game changing.
>Dark Jeanne
Kills your own storms, valhallan general is better and even he is a bit too slow.
>Gawain
Needs an evo point to make use of the effect and will only be able to reduce at best 2 times.
>Roland
*Lightning blasts*
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>>171954461
>not just running only 6 pp cards and praying your opponent bricks
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>>171954497
Girls can't love girls.
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>>171954475
>bloodfed flowerbed
what is this list and why are you subjecting yourself to it
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What deck requires most skill?

Discuss seriously.
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>>171950594
They were over 60% for weeks of people scrambling to do anything in their power to stop it and even near the end it was still well over 50% winrates with an entire meta trying anything they could muster to stop it. no, it wasn't fine to be a tyrant with tutors and no shadow req.
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>>171954561

I guess if you've been a devout and pious follower of Havencraft you can stick with that gameplan.
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>>171954646
mono aggro red
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>>171954553
>Gawain
>Needs an evo point to make use of the effect and will only be able to reduce at best 2 times.

Read the card moron
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>>171954604
>1 pp 4 damage
It's good shit for daily missions if you don't care about winrate
Makes you win your favoured match ups harder and your unfavoured lose even harder
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>>171954497
the purest
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>>171954497
Fags
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>>171954604
Hey man its 1pp for 4 damage
How can you say no the value
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>>171954740
>Implying Erika won't murder her one day after she coughs slightly
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>evolve short-haired female card
>gets long hair every time
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>>171954860
>YOU MUST DIE
Bitch is crazy
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>>171954646

Homebrew.

Trailblazing ain't easy.
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>>171954897
>Ancient Elf
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>>171954604
It's win or lose in 30 seconds: the deck.
It usually loses.
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>forestshitter thinks he can outaggro an actual aggro deck (shadow)
>keeps going face instead of cleaning my board
>they always fall behind eventually
>they try to rely on beast to save their pathetic asses
>lose anyway
why do people underestimate aggro shadow so much?
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>>171954897
low test
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>>171955049
But that's how Roach plays. Chip damage to face until they have enough shit on hand to OTK.
What else do you think he should do?
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>>171955175
Concede
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>T1: Ur 2 slow!
>T2: Leave dicks to me!
>T3: Onward, hoes!
>T4: Gangbang in the flower garden!
>T5: Heeeere's Albert!
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>>171955175
he should mvp his luck and draw all of his ancient elfs
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>cblood

loses to shadow, sword, haven and basically any half decent decks besides maybe dragon

>aggro

loses to anyone with wards/healing which is essentially all decks except other aggros, in which case it's just a game of gambling
can they just release ToG already? blood is not fun to play at all
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>>171955352
>dubs
you deserve it
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>>171955175

Figure out how much chip damage they actually need, for starters.

Roachers only benefit from dragging the match out if they can stay alive and not get warded out.
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>>171955049
>Aggro Forest
>Fairy Beast
It's still a bad deck regardless. I almost feel bad for the people that fall for 'Tempo Forest is still good, 130% WR in masters!' lies.
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>>171954604
In the words of our lord and savior Imperial Dragoonus Christ, whatever it takes to prevail
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>>171955175
in a vs aggro matchup you have to control the board. or at least you have to know when to control and when to go face.
it's harder to tell with aggro vs aggro matchups, but with roach it should be clear that he won't be able to kill me before i end him.

this time he beast'd twice and lost anyway.
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Name ONE (1) deck that consistently beats albertcraft.
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>>171955486
I have a 70% win rate with Tempo forest in masters.
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>>171955543

Albertcraft going first
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>>171955543
Nep Shadowcraft?
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>play against forest
>go first
>turn 2 they Sylvan Justice my 2 drop

EVERY.SINGLE.FUCKING.TIME.
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>>171955543
control blood!
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>>171955543
aggro blood
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>>171955543
Bloodcraft
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>>171955497
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>>171952685
anyone can netdeck to aa loser
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>>171955372
>lose to anyone with healing
>yesterday played against a haven deck who healed 11 and removed most of my threats
>I still won because he missed a critical Lion or Themis
I mean it is a winnable match with some luck but nonetheless annoying as fuck sit thru all the motions
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>Daria
>I just fling a bunch of burn spells from hand to their face while removing their board at the same time, giving me lethal

Fucking retarded
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>>171955739
>>171952685
Numerous people have just mashed aggro bats to masters. It's nothing sword shitter.
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>>171954646
I always seem to have the most options when playing Control Blood or Forest.

Forest has a lot of plays you can make each turn because you run a lot of low cost combo pieces and tokens, meaning every turn you make an active decision of how much you feel you need to commit versus what you need to save. Sometimes you have to drop fairies on the board, sometimes you have to play nature's guidance just for the draw, sometimes you have to roach a follower instead of face. Tempo is probably the most straightforward of all forest decks, but PtP definitely had the highest skillcap. Wolfbolt is closer to PtP in difficulty but slightly easier to play and roach is kind of the middleground between Tempo and Wolf. I don't like the idea of them introducing too many strong solo cards and giving less combo pieces as it kind of ruins the playstyle of forest, even if it makes forest less garbage in arena.

If you run a more aggressive control blood setup then there's a lot of decision making in how much HP you can leverage and certain ways to dip down into vengeance and then heal yourself out of lethal. Unfortunately I think blood moon is going to lower the skillcap of blood quite a bit since you can get your vengeance activator for free, and also have options with the death mask amulet to protect yourself from OTK or self-damage so its makes the deck less risky overall.
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>>171955543
Any deck that includes Yurius of infinite face pings beats albertcraft quite consistently
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>>171950264
Every single shadowverse streamer just netdecks with the fucking albert nigger deck for this entire meta. None of them are even playing control sword, yet people are still watching them. This is why this community will forever stay irrelevant, just full of netdecking tryhard anime niggers
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>unironically complaining about netdecking
>what are refined archetypes
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>>171955885
Kripp was supposedly shitposting with dirt rune last I heard
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>>171955543
Face Dragon with the right built rapes Albercraft any day.
But of course the idiots here will tell you that face dragon is just a meme.
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>>171955983
Kripp is an A0 shitter.
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>>171954708
You read the card.
To play it on curve and get any value out of it you would need to give it rush hence you would need to EVOLVE it.
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>>171955760
i mean, it IS winnable, but it devolves into 20 minute top deck war

it's silly it took cygames 4 expansions to give blood a half decent win con
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>>171955978
>Getting Married
>Happy Life
Heh
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>>171955885
satan cat doesn't play albertcraft last I watched him

and I hope you realize every card game is full of netdeckers
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>>171956060
Fucking still? That was like a month ago
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>>171955885
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>>171956140
He's only been playing T2 now.
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>>171955865
>blood moon lowers skill cap

you mean, there was a skill cap behind putting yourself to 10hp in a fucking alberto meta?

LOL

blood moon is gonna replace dire bond, and blood SUCKS at card draw, you're still gonna see people run something like belphegor because all those vengeance cards needs something behind it
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>>171956140
he almost never plays the game, he makes entirely too much money playing HS to deviate very often
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>>171952734
>implying
Brainlets stay wilin
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>>171955885
Do you seriously expect people to climb Master rank with a shitty meme deck over using the current best deck?
You don't even know what netdecking is.
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>>171956140
He only plays SV when they pay him too, and even then he just plays arena now.

I'm not sure why they keep wasting money on him when could be running other promotions to gain interest in the west.
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>>171956405
>Garbage Fencer
>Selwyn the chuuni
Vial that shit. Not even meme material.
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>>171956227
>>171956415
Nobody wants to watch someone play followers on curve to autowin every matchup faggot. And if you seriously think the only way to climb masters is with 1 braindead deck you dont play the game.
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>>171956415
I'm climbing to masters with my meme deck.
What is your excuse?
If you are good you can with memes.
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>>171956405
Did you just want to make a deck with nothing but golds and legends or something?
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>>171956462
he's still the most popular HS streamer/youtuber
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Should i vial this animated Pluto? She sounds viable on paper.
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>>171956462
Considering every other English-speaking SV streamer/Youtuber is complete fucking garbage in comparison.
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>>171956462
he's done a one off unsponsored stream and he definitely has stuck with it more than his other sponsored games.

even tweeted about it recently https://twitter.com/Kripparrian/status/844659089632378880
but like the other anon said HS is still his main source of income.
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>>171956690
>Vialing animated legendaries
>When I don't have any despite playing since December
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>>171956556
Except that the most effective way to climb masters right now is to play those "brandead" decks. If you want to see meme decks, play them yourself or stop watching people that are specifically streaming themselves trying to climb efficiently.
>Nobody
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>>171956628
not really a good thing honestly
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>>171956775
https://www.change.org/p/kripparrian-stop-the-kripperinos
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>>171956405
>When the opponent is out of gas letting you use a second wolf
>tfw dropping 2 gigas and an ancient forest dragon
Orgasmic
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>>171956572
>either intentionally gimp yourself or you're subhuman scum
Of course memes can win, but they're going to have a lower winrate even when piloted optimally. I'm pretty sure most of the top players aren't worrying about what shitposters on a cambodian stamp collecting forum think of them.
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>>171956690
She's fine. Odin is better at controlling with his banish, Pluto is better at swinging momentum out in reduced removal land. If they can't answer him he's pretty tight.

>>171956864
How is hearthstone to get into now?
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>>171956849
I have an animated Nep. Never pulled three Neps to make the deck, will probably end up vialing it without ever getting to try the deck.
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>>171957012
$$$$$$$$
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>>171956849
How?
I've been playing since around January and I have 3. I've even vialed another 2 animated legendaries that I used to had. They were both animated Dragoons. Fuck off dragoncucks its never going to be T1.
Never bought packs with crystals either.
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Rune will be fucking unplayable in the new pick your opponent's take two deck mode.
>pick all earth sigil generating cards but no activators
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>>171957012
>How is hearthstone to get into now?
They've removed "adventures", which were guaranteed blocks of cards you paid $20 or so to access, while shifting into 3 expansions of ~140 cards per year. If you live outside of the US, they've also raised prices per pack.

It's not cheap. Someone did the math and determined it would take about $700 per year to get 90% of the cards in all of the expansions.
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>>171956556
This was meant to go along with >>171956850, but I fucked up
>Nobody
Your shitty opinion is not absolute truth, autist. If they are streaming and there are people watching them, it's because there are people that want to watch that.
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>>171957117
It's a silly private only mode, it's not supposed to be fair.
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>>171956926
Netdecking is a cancer to the meta because as the game moves forward without formats, there's increasingly a much, much smaller viable deck pool for each archetype until it crystallizes into 1-2 decks and every other deck on their best day simply can't beat those on their worse because that's the power gap. We're already chest deep towards piratestone
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>>171957047
Shame. It's a fun deck.
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>>171957012
>him
what
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nung na nung!
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>>171957152
>>171957012
>How is hearthstone to get into now?

They also increased the price of packs for yuropoors.
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>>171957278
koreaboo cuck
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>>171957278
I'll make fucking salami out of you, whore!
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>>171957218
I don't think you understand what netdecking even means
You're assuming there's this wealth of untapped potential and deck archetypes that would come forth if only those dirty netdeckers would think for themselves. The issue is that most of the casual players wouldn't have created any magic meta shaking archetype and "professional" players are already looking at ways to do just that from day one of the expansion. There are rarely new archetypes that come out in ANY CCG after the meta has been established, even in massive games like MTG due to the interactions and mechanics being worked out early.

What you're basically upset about is that certain decks are stronger than other decks, and you don't want "netdeckers" playing those strong decks. Which once again leads us back to the question, what do you want them to do? Gimp themselves so there's more diversity on ladder? That's not an issue with the players, it's an issue with card design.
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>Luna summons gains advantage over me and swarms the board
>kills her board advantage by playing lord atomy
>DoD him
>she starts roping me
sasuga Lunafags
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>>171956926
You seem to have the mistaken idea that meme decks can't have optimal win rates and cannot perform well consistently, which is definitely not the case.
If you are willing to stick by your meme decks, you will improve and refine them like any other deck as you play and realize its strengths and weaknesses, allowing you to turn meme decks into decks that are actually good.
I personally don't think of meme decks as joke decks, but decks that people simply don't want to give a chance because they are not proven successful by the meta.
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>>171957194
Which is what im complaining about, in hearthstone nobody watches players netdeck unless they are actually competing to be the best. Here in the shadowverse community the only people who get views are netdeckers. I'm sure theres arena streamers and people who only play memedecks but the only streamers im seeing on right now are all netdecking their ass off in either AA or low masters
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>>171957152
>$700 per year to get 90% of the cards in all of the expansions.
Is that actually accurate? I thought people were dicksucking a bit hard when they kept bringing up the generosity in shadow verse but I guess I see why now.
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Orb bombardment
Runecraft spell
Legendary
1 cost
Deal 1 damage to an enemy
Enhance 2: deal 2 damage instead
Enhance 3: deal 3 damage instead
Enhance 4: deal 4 damage instead
Enhance 5: deal 5 damage instead
Enhance 6: deal 6 damage instead
Enhance 7: deal 7 damage instead
Enhance 8: deal 8 damage instead
Enhance 9: deal 9 damage instead
Enhance 10: deal 10 damage instead
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>>171957630
Depends on what you're defining a meme deck to be
If we're talking Timmy decks that eke out some 30% winrate but win in spectacular fashion, then what I said is correct
If you're defining meme decks as any non-commonly-represented deck on ladder, then sure, it's possible
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>>171957690
wow you're so skilled that was so hard
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>>171957545
Yes, yes they should because not getting mauled by the most overtuned deck opens up a much healthier meta with more interaction in matches
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>>171957690

Are you shitposting right now.

That lethal is ridiculously easy
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>>171957094
I am just really unlucky in general. I either get no legendaries or get bad ones like Fafnir.
I had to craft most of my useful legendaries, because I rarely ever get one.
For instance in the last two weeks I opened about 25 packs and the only legendary I got was Dragonsong Flute, which I already had 2 times.

Luck is a skill I do not possess.
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>>171957812
Very few people will intentionally make suboptimal decisions in any game in order to promote 'diversity' and card games are no different
The issue isn't with the playerbase, it's with any game design that forces out a small number of overly strong archetypes
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>>171957732
>Enhance 9: deal 9 damage instead
>Enhance 10: deal 10 damage instead
more like,
Enhance 9: deal 10 damage instead, summon 5/7 Timeworn mage Levi
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>>171957630
'Meme decks' with good WRs are no longer memes. If discard OTK had pre-nerf Roach WRs if would be metacancer like anything else.
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>>171957690
How is convert skull beast mummy evo mummy hard? Kill yourself.

>>171957860
Fafnir isn't bad, there's just better
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>>171957690
skull beast soul conversion lesser mummy evo lesser mummy

wow so skill
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Can we all agree that storm should be removed from the game?
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>>171957905
and evolve it
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Post what you think is the most retarded card of totg.

Picture related is mine, it will pretty much break the game.
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>>171957962
remove ambush and storm
also fanfares and spells that deal damage to the face
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>>171957630
>allowing you to turn meme decks into decks that are actually good.

Any examples?
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>>171955543
Ignore every other post.

Nothing, there is literally no deck that has a significant advantage over midrange sword. It's worst matchups are still like 45% winrate which means swords still has a good chance to win the match.

Every idiot who thinks that roach or Daria was as bad as sword is now is just a swordfag in denial. Those decks had consistent counters and in many cases WERE the counter to midrange sword until cygames decided sword needed to be tier 0 again.
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>>171957962
No
If you remove storm you remove a key feature of any aggro deck, gimping all of them. They'd either need a significant buff in some other aspect that would be equally powerful in order to not let anti control decks like D Shift be the only valid choice on ladder
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>>171957630
Is it a meme deck if its memes aren't dreams?

>>171957860
Flute is pretty strong and it's getting better in the expansion.
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>>171958046
atomeme, with Wandering bard it's "summon 8/8 for free"
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>>171957962
That would delete aggro from the game, and then SV would become dshit mirrors where nobody plays anything but card draw until someone goes off and wins.
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You guys think forte will still be a staple next expac?
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>>171958041
Nah. Only storm.
Its bullshit how they can just storm your face across a full board and not even give a shit because 80% of their deck is cards with storm
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>>171957962

It should stay a keyword, but I'd agree that a lot of current instances of Storm should be downgraded to Rush
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>>171957683
>Here in the shadowverse community the only people who get views are netdeckers
Cat is probably the one streamer who gets the biggest amount of views and he doesn't do that.
You are basing your point on the bunch of Twitch streamers with 100 or so viewers that no one cares about.
Shadowverse doesn't have a big Twitch streaming community, because the vast majority of the players are Japanese.
I just went to check and the current top streamer on Twitch is envybae and "she" seems to be playing some meme Control/Midrange Blood, while your so called "netdeckers" have less than 100 viewers.
>in hearthstone
In HS people are sick of the meta, of course they don't care about a random shitter playing a tier 1 deck.
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>>171958007
You wanted albert-craft to take a nut shot. This is the future you chose.
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friendly reminder that /svg/ is shit at cards games and you should never ever take their opinions seriously on new sets before meta results
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>>171957152
They still have five card packs and you have to do like two day's worth of missions to get a single pack, huh?

I remember I spent like $20 for 30 packs back when HS first came out and I got nothing but duplicates and pure shit. After playing another two or three months and being no where closer to any kind of complete deck, I quit.

I'm tempted to toss CYGames a few bucks, but they don't have a stellar rep for keeping games active and unless they introduce a rotating 'standard' format soon, the powercreep is going to be unreal.
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>>171958007
if you are playing dragon is it better to keep imprison dragon or use this?
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wich card wud u fug
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>>171958230
What's funny is that Albertracft doesn't even care that much. They are just going to TSUKOME/ Jeno it for free anyway.
All aggro decks are basically dead though.
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>>171957969
And put a enhanced Orb bombardment to your hand, change its cost to 0.
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>>171957962
Make Storm followers only get +1/+1 from evolve.
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>People moan about Daria yet Clarke kun is perfectly fine.
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>>171957721
It's extremely expensive, yes. If you're willing to buy amazon coins for a discount, you can probably drop $50-100 max off that total. The $50 preorder pack they have would on average net you two legendaries and enough dust to make 1-2 more. Enough to make a single quality deck at most in all likelihood, unless you're willing to run budget versions for a lot of other things.
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This stormhaven fucker roped me hard on the last turn then played master sage and conceded, why people do dis?
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>>171958215
envybaer just played albertcraft for a good few hours dumbfuck
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any shadownerds have suggestions on what to add and remove?

saxton seems like too much of a meme
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>>171957962
Not removed entirely, but way too much shit is getting storm stapled onto it in order to entice people into wanting the card. After all, if the new cards aren't better than the old cards, people won't buy packs.

Shit is getting out of hand in a hurry.
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>>171958127
The cost reduction is part of the fanfare too though.
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>>171958278
This becomes a 4/5 on evolve and Imprisoned's 4 is often ignored. Also, the enhance seems pretty usable on Ramp when needed.
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>>171958263
The average gold is 50 per quest, which you get one of every 24 hours. You can attain 10g for every three wins, up to 100g per day, for the low price of winning 30 games in a single day.
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What if spells had last words effect?
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>>171958278
You'll be using Rahab unless you want to keep imprisoned for off-curve value.

>>171958390
It's still slowing them down which is the goal.

>>171957860
>0 flutes
>Don't even have 7000 vials
>Can't justify crafting flutes
>xpak right around the corner with many core cards
>Nothing gives DE packs
>2 months will be lost to flinging shit at TotG packs and getting nowhere
>Then it's time to save for the next one
I might actually whale if they make a prebuilt.
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So how long until we get a Standard format and rotation, /svg/?
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>>171958524
your deck is all over the place just haul it and go look at an aggro shadow deck for reference
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>>171958493
>nep pulls cerberus amd unica
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>>171958478
Jesus I didn't know it was that bad. I just tallied it up and I have 82% of the cards playing f2p for 3.5 months.
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>>171958523
Did her number of viewers decrease when she started memeing? If you can't show me that that happened, then your entire point of "Shadowverse players only watch netdeckers" falls apart completely, "dumbfuck".
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>>171958746
That girl is really cute, what's her name?
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>>171958250
Ramp had 44-45% WRs throughout RoB. Sure did make Dragon viable, and now it's competing with the new legend.
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>>171957962
not at all, but storm followers with massive defensive stats like albert shouldn't exist
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>>171950574
FOREVAAA 17
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>>171954553
See a stupid fuck. Must mean Merlin is shit as well huh. Goddamn. A 4pp 5/6 evolve that reduces all commanders in hand now is bad. Holy shit. Like really? Damn.
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>>171958493
>2 evo points open on Turn 8
>Didn't evo the 3/4 falcon

I don't understand why people do this. Is he afraid of 'wasting' it by having it killed on your turn or something? Do people just not think ahead or have a concept of pressure?
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>>171958263
RoB was the fault of the burgers being worthless pieces of shit who didn't do their job which basically killed it.
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>>171958804
>lol its ok shes playing a different deck its fine!
Off yourself white knight
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>>171958609
Not him, but the cost reduction takes place in your hand. Fanfare only occurs when you play a card. It sounds to me like the interaction will work, but either way it's not like that combo would be enough to make Atomeme not a meme deck.
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>>171958838
nice bait
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>>171958189
>>171958567
>>171958092
You should only be allowed to storm face if they dont have any followers on board. Aggro would still be there except you wont be able to mindlessly hit face only early game on and have a guaranteed win the moment you hit turn 8-10 but actually think about your plays and plan ahead
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>>171958263
English Rage of Bahamut wasn't run by Cygames. The company they got to do it fucked up so hard is was better to just mercy kill it.

The precons at first purchase price are definitely good value.
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>>171959094
This would still kill every aggro deck due to being required to trade constantly or have every single instance downgraded to rush

It's still going to have the same consequence of making every match a D Shift mirror
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>>171959140
Does anyone know how much dust a prebuilt deck is worth?
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I gotta fight 12 unique people in my private room. I'm the same guy from last night, my room was 70280 or something.
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>>171959283
You mean people would get punished for running 0 spell decks and having only storm cards in deck?
Woah... what a shocker, people getting punished for being braindead
Unnaceptable
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>>171959094
>Aggro would still be there
No it wouldn't. Daria would single handedly shit all over literally every deck in existence because nothing could ever hope to match its boardflood and if you're forced to throw all your minions into it, you die after the second time they do it unless you are CBlood or Haven. And yay, we'd have literally 4 viable decks in the game what great fun. No fuck you.
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When will we get rest of the snek sisters?
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>>171958649
Christ, worse than I remembered.
I guess as long as it's raking in money they have no incentive to change their business model.

>>171959094
Forcing aggro to trade will kill aggro as well. A better solution would be to give aggro decks more power to consistently put out many cheap, small, powerful followers with a smattering of game-ending threats to be used on turn 6-8.
There are many cards like this already, but they seem to be pushing more towards single threats with storm. I want to say they're doing this so they don't have to give every class a board wipe, but pretty much every class already does or can answer a filled field with its own, so I don't know.
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>>171959421
I'll "fight" you in your private room if you know what i'm saying
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>>171959393
3250 and change
Or you can use the 2 legos and 5 golds

>>171959461
Never because they'll have a good idea but fuck it up again
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3000G SAVED UP, 30 PACKS READY FOR THURSDAY.
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>>171958092
>slow deck is doing well
>d-shitters come out in full force
>aggro comes and mops up the D-shit


Truly a rock paper scissors meta.
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>>171959421
Says the match id doesn't exist
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Help me with a private match.


13880
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>>171959438
You're vastly overestimating the amount of storm cards that any deck plays without a significant amount of other minions and spells to fight for board
Aggro blood alone runs triple claws, 2-3 Hordes, 2-3 Strikes, and generally have a max of 6 minions that actually have storm (wolf and lancer)
You can over exaggerate all you want because you're tired of getting beaten by unga, but you're still wrong
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>>171959421
Create a new room and post the ID again
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>>171955543
Daria
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>>171959438
>for running 0 spell decks and having only storm cards in deck?
There is not and has never been a single deck of any remote viability like that. Please keep your butthurt to yourself.
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>>171959592
Up to 70 plus however many tickets. Will still probably pull 5 or less legends and have to craft everything useful.
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Match ID 75804
concede please
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>>171955543
CBlood, Daria and teched DirtRune. CSword probably too, but I haven't tested it that much.
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>>171959807
>There is not and has never been a single deck of any remote viability like that.
Literally sword
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heh, this reminds me of that one guy who kept raging in this thread over summon bloodkin
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>>171959984
DELETE THIS
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>>171959807
The fuck are you talking about
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>>171959968
Show me a Swordlist that only runs Storm minions and no spells.
The most Storm heavy aggroSword list plays Commanders like the Fencers or Maid leader.
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>>171960140
Ok my bad I lied they do run alwidas command and mentors teaching
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>>171959968
>viable swordcraft deck without WSS, Maid Leader, DoD, any buff commander, Aurelia or Tsubaki
You seem mildly delusional.
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>>171959984
Burglar started the tradition of murder in the family
Rowen ended it
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>>171960324
Could you shift the goalposts any harder
>b-but I didn't actually mean what I wrote!
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What did my meme pack mean by this?
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>brick and lose against d-shift because I drew 3 Medusa's Gazes
Where are you cunnies when Aurelia's on the board
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>>171958092

D-shift was a mistake too.
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>>171960514
>meme pack

you mean god pack.
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>>171960324
Okay I take your goalpost moving, show me a swordcraft list that runs no spells and non--storm minions except those two.
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>>171960514
if you craft dshift a curse will fall upon you where you'll never be happy as long as you live
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any word on April's emblems/sleeves yet?
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I need a concede please.

64381
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>>171960514
It meant just conjuring snowmen bro
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>>171960778
Thanks, my dude.
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>still only 1 dirtrune legendary
>shes shit
>daria getting buffed more instead in next expansion

M-maybe next time
>>
I wonder why this is even anonymous or called 4chan anymore. Just end it Hiro
>>
summer skins for leaders when
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>>171960741
What do you even need for a dick shit deck?
>3 Levis
>Spells out of your ass
>Merlin
>Dick shit
>Flame destroyer
Seems to be pretty cheap.
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>>171960996
>magical big guy is not dirtrune lego
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>>171960996
I've never seen a post more deserving of the "D0?" response.
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>>171960996
Wake up. All cards are revealed already.
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>>171960996

>Big magic dude
>Shit.

Your ass is going to get beat if you keep talking shit, son.
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>>171960762
owlcat and israfil
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>>171960996

Daria can't use the chimera (see: FD)

The new spellboostable buff might as well be a keen enchantment.

As for the tutors themselves, they don't pull Daria reliably and don't tempo anything.
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>>171961190
>owlcat

They should stop fucking wasting valuable sleeves slots on shitty meme cards already.
>>
Need concede

95826
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>>171961190
Finally good sleeves.
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>>171961330
Fuck you. I'd much rather play with Owlcat sleeves than random semi-lewd girl card #81231
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>>171961330

>not wanting owlcat

You have bad taste.
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>>171960996
>Erasmus
>Pascale
>Now you're getting:
>Big "target immune" guy
>UUUU
>UUUU
>UUUU
>UUUU
>In general you've gained an aggro archetype, pascale got more targets in illusionist and mage of nightfall, an offensive 4 drop finally, hand redraw, a winter's caprice that works with your deck depending on how many conjures you run you have chimera pressure and trade survival from enchanted blade, and a late-game pseudo-evo pressure card in elder mage
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>>171961186
>dies to a 1/1 with bane
At least daria does something when you play her. I hate to use the do nothing meme but he literally does nothing but prevent you from using earth sigil spells which would otherwise help you win the game
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>>171961330
>Pseudoward that can kill anything with roots for 3pp total
Yeah no. He might pop up with kaguya too
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>>171961396
Thanks famalam
>>
Wait, Would Aegis be affected by stuff like Blackened Scripture?

It does interact with its Health (assuming you managed to get it down to 3> somehow.)
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>>171961516
>Erasmus
Erasmus doesn't count. That's like saying that CBlood has Beast Dominator as an option.
>In general you've gained an aggro archetype
Dirt Rune doesn't have the cards to play aggro. That build on GameAI is a midrange deck, but as usual, GameAI is too retarded to be able to differentiate aggro from midrange..
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>>171961481
HAHA DUDE MEEMS LOL
SO RANDUM/b/
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>>171961449
>>171961481
It's fucking useless. Just like Hansa and snowman were and nobody uses them unless it's some fucking cheeky meme deck you only see in unranked anyway.
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>>171961675
only cards that can increase or decrease attack or defense.
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>>171961675
you can't banish it, when you will ever learn
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>>171961675
Kill yourself
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>>171961675
NOTHING
FUCKING
AFFECTS IT
EXCEPT FOR THINGS THAT ARE DIRECT -X/+X TO HEALTH
BANISH DOES NOT AFFECT HIM
HOW FUCKING OFTEN DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD
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>>171961647

It needs to have exactly 1 Attack, the root combo doesn't work.
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>>171961806
So are Mastema and Date for what it's worth.
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>>171961769
He won a lot of games for me before I got sick of the golds I didn't have and tossed the budget dirt deck

>>171961675
Nope, it's change its attack/def not a conditional.
Regardless of their text, their intention is that it can't be dealt with beyond board flood+contest of strength and hoping they don't have baha/themis in hand which they will

>>171961806
I'll meme you to the shadow realm kiddo
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>>171961806
I use hamsa and snowman in my haven decks.
Gsun and Seraph.

players generally use the newest sleeves which is why they switched them out for the gbf ones.
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>>171961935
Oh goddammit literally why. It had to have come up in testing.
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>>171962125
I'm sorry your meme is a pile of garbage

oh wait no i'm not
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>>171959421
>>171959557
>>171959698
>>171959764

fixed. It's up
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>>171961550
>at least the best card in the game does something when you play it

D0?
>>
Why do I always get a shit hand and shit turn order whenever I play against someone much higher rank than me?
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>>171962279
But what's the I'd?
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>>171961675

>If arthas's mount is called invincible, then why can i see it?
>>
81203
lemme wail on you i need gold pls
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>>171962435
name field
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>>171962424

Their luck skill is higher than yours.
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>>171962516
Oh my bad, I tend to ignore names.
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>>171962603
>Tfw E ranked luck
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>>171960996
>daria getting buffed more instead in next expansion
I understand that u want to complain but daria got 0 support in next expansion, unlike dirt rune.
>>
>having an amazing game of Control Blood vs Earth Rite with a Japanese player that goes until both of us have almost exhausted our resources
>get to the end, he has lethal on the board and I can't remove it
>do the best I can and emote congratulations
>end turn
>he congratulates me and leaves me with 2 health when he could have finished me
>emote "thanks" and commit seppuku with Blood Pact
Just reminded me why I hate playing and fighting Aggro, really. It's over too quickly.
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>Kaguya sets Aegis attack to 1.
>You attack it with Owlcat.

What happens?
>>
How do I make a memes in the sky deck? Just make a banner deck, only replace banner with memes or what?
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>>171963004
He was BMing
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>>171954046
> gif
almost got me there you double nigger
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>>171963215
owlcat dies
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>>171963215

Meem overload.
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>>171963215
Owlcat dies. You people are so fucking retarded.
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Do last word effects stack?
Would using zombie buccaneer with prince catacomb give 2 zombies on death?
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>>171963215
Clash does nothing then owlcat splits itself on Aegis' monolithic dick
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okay okay

what if

aegis died to aegis? bet you didn't see that coming!
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>>171963215
You dense mother fuckers. What part of isn't affected by anything other than stat changes and Medusa's gaze because my gut says so do you not understand.
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>>171963419
Yes, test it with Curse of rebirth on a last word follower.
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>>171963419
Go use curse of rebirth on chimera against a beginner bot
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>>171963419

A zombie and a skellington, but yes.
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78563 Looking to get my private games done before the expansion, playing suicide blood so just kill me.
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>>171963535
Owlcat literally has Medusa's gaze against 1 attack followers so you're retarded.
>>
Are people really this stupid or just behind many layers of irony?
>>
>>171963553
>>171963576
I know it works with followers that have last word effect as the base but I wasnt sure if it would work if it works with 2 last word buffs stacked up like buccaneer and prince catacomb. Maybe they should replace each other
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>>171963582
>>171963553
Can you zombie zombie?
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>>171956690
vial her, I play since december and have already almost every legendary in animated form (fuck albert) and they are not so special, especially if you need vials badly
>>
So Aegis can't be bounced either, right?
>>
>reveal all the cards 1 week before release
why? It's boring now, I only want to play with the new cards goddamn it
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>>171963869
Aegis has many mysteries still unknown to us.
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>>171963419
They stack

In that scenario, Prince would give Buccaneer the effect to also summon a skeleton. so when Buccaneer dies, he summons a zombie and a skeleton.
>>
D,shift or roach forest, which deck should I craft?
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>>171963869
No, but it DOES die to Khway
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>>171963869
Yes, treat it like a part of the background. That deals damage to you every turn
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>>171964015
I just want shadowverse portal to update the deckbuilder with the new cards already.
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>>171964064
>>
All night in ranked its been havencraft after havencraft, I blew through my shadcraft dailies but then when I switched to my aggrosword to finish my stupid fucking sword dailies and Ive gotten 5 haven in a row and terrible hands everytime, Its like all my bad luck has been condensed into one night, where the fuck have all the aggro decks gone epansion isnt even here yet.

>banish
>heal
>banish
>heal
>heal
>board clear
>say hi to seraph!
>OTK next turn
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>>171964150
same
>>
Reminder that aggro is actually still strong in ToG.
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>>171963869
Totally. They never learned from lord Atomemes
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>>171964110
and it takes up a board spot.
>>
Why is an '''''''''''''''''''''''''''aggro''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' sword list allowed to run Unica and Veteran Lancer without missing a beat in its curve?
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>>171964150
You can use that simulator some anon made for testing your theorycrafts.
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>>171964373
Because its midrange you idiot.
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>>171964373
please drink bleach you stain on humanity
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>>171964240
It's been Haven and C.Blood for me with some rogue tempo Darias sprinkled
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>>171964373
You guys just really want to shit in sword however you want, even though you are so factually wrong. Goddamn. At least I'd you're gonna complain, do it right.
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>>171964446
yes these """""""midrange"""""" decks send all their minions to face every turn
>>
do you think this game has a small enough following that the optimal decks havent necessarily been found yet?
I wonder if there's a mathematical curve for the rate at which optimal forms are generated given a certain number of participants
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>>171964373
Midsword is a pretty simple deck. You just play on curve and deal as much damage as you can when you can while making a few value trades.
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Is there a single legendary /svg/ actually likes in this expansion?
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>>171964446
>>171964483
>>171964726
Mad swordshitters furious their free wins deck won't be viable next expansion.
>>
>play shadowcraft
>everyone else gets more shadows
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>>171964194
Well, Arisa is cuter than Isatits, but will forest continue to be as cancerous as today in ToG? Personally, I don't get half as buttblasted when I lose to forest as to when I lose to D. shift, so the auto concede potential of D.shift seems to be higher.
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>>171964786
and yes these """"""""""""decks"""""""""""" put """""""""""""""""""""cards""""""""""""""""""""" in them like all the other decks out there xDDD
wow what a concept
If you know they're going to send all their minions face then fucking do something about it retard
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>>171964874
Magical Big Guy
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>>171964874
Ronald is going to be one of the best cards in the game
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>>171964874
DE EGIS ANON
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>>171964874
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>>171964874
Eachtar
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>>171965086
I don't like him. Too boring.

>>171965037
I don't like her. She's never going to live more than a turn.
>>
>>171964975
>lel play reactive inefficient cards in a game without blocking

Must be your first card game.
>>
C-concede please?
59909
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>>171965191
I don't like you.
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>got turn five lethaled by swordcraft in fucking arena
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>>171963620

To the italian runecraft player, it has to be unique players, you can't play against me more than once.
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>>171965202
go back to magic you nigger nobody cares what you think
>>
>>171964874
>>
>>171965235
Too bad, I like you.
>>
>>171964874

O U R (guy) O B O R O S
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>>171964874
Ronaldo, Big Guy 4U, and Dragon Miko, are all very good for the game. We need more cards like them that try fixing weaknesses and countering degenercy, without being pure cancer "I win" like Albert.
>>
>>171964874

I'm interested in possible applications for Dark Jeanne. Otherwise not really to interested in legendaries, looking forward to more golds
>>
>>171965217
Thank you Mr. Skeleton!
>>
>>171964874
I like Roland but the real potential is in the golds and silvers this time around.

based cygames putting a lot of power into the lower rarity cards so you don't get fucked over.
>>
Why does every fucking dragon deck have a million fucking spell card removals
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>surviving 7 turn
Impossible, i already calculated all your spellboosts.
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>>171963620
got it
Need 3 more match for the quest
77225
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>>171965242
Sword is getting rotated out of arena's top spot pretty soon.
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>>171964874
I honestly think people are underestimating Ouroboros, but we'll need to see him in action. I will play him even if he turns out to be not worth it though (what I doubt will happen).
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>>171965504
About to be 1 million+3
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>>171965664
>burn
>removal bait
>has a heal for extra cancer

Literally all you need in burnremovalverse.
>>
>>171964964
>playing ptp on turn 5
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>>171965280
>being this mad

Doesn't matter what I think, the meta speaks for itself.
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>>171965664

People shit on him now, but I bet the card is going to become a problem, esp. since Cygames went out of their way to make sure games on average will last longer.
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This madman comes and clears your entire fucking board while presumably leaving a body with 4 attack. What do you do
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>I should bahamut a person playing shadow with no HP and a few 2/2s
He didn't have any removal
>>
What are the core golds for forest?

3x Bolts
3× wil of the forest
3x roaches

????

Any lists?
>>
If I have JO on the field and two of that follower that does 1 face damage whenever you discard a card does discarding 5 cards mean an instawin?
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>>171965960
Concede, win next match which was not against daria
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>>171965961
Que
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>>171965961
>upload the wrong image
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>>171965992
The only core gold is roach which is used in every forest deck like Levi.
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>>171965306
I will never not be salty

>>171965504
Because the nature of ramp means they need to be able to reliably swing momentum
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>>171965960
>>
>>171965960
>play against Rune
>they spend all of their evolves on Levi
I think a restricted list would do this game well.
>>
>>171965664
I honestly think people who haven't played dragon as a main are overestimating it.
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>tfw Eris is the chemocraft
>>
I just survived an entire apocalypse deck with sun guardian and won

Sun guardian is fucking busted.
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>>171966195
Well maybe you get over your shit ass card already, holy fuck
Every god damn thread
Was she even good in standard
>>
>>171966310
I do main Ramp and CSword though.
>>
>>171966146

Shit i forgot to mention wolfbolt in particular, since it runs control combos.
>>
You know what would be the best way to nerf bombs in arena (Bahamut, Olivia, Satan etc...) without actually touching the cards? Make it known for the opponent which bombs you have, and when they're drawn. Arena bombs in this game are far too swingy to be allowed to exist in their current state.
>>
>>171966070
It adds +1 to the end total of the effect.
So 2 disconewts discarding 5 is 12 dmg

>>171966143
I don't get it, pact requires them to have 4 or less defense. What's happening?
>>
>>171965992
Only Roach gets run 100% of the time no matter the build.
>>
>>171964964
Forest is likely to be at the same strength it is now or even decrease. PTP isn't a very strong deck right now and the only new card that it might use this expansion is crystal erin. However, that along with meta changes could be what finally gives it a positive win rate again.

Dshift will stay the same or even become stronger if anything. However, there are periods of time when the deck is unplayable because of all the aggro/"midrange" decks being used.

>>171964064
Keep in mind roach forest took a really heavy nerf. The deck is supposed to be aggressive in the early game and finish off opponents with roaches. Now gobu can't consistently draw roach unless you take out more of your 1 drops. The best roach decks ran 8 or so 1 drops and decreasing it to 3 or even 0 really messes up your early aggression. It also leaves you completely defenseless against aggro and sword decks.
Right now, I think the best forest deck is tempo, but roach forest is very similar and a lot cheaper too.
>>
>>171966379
>Just get over the Halocaust bro!
Maybe every god damn thread you should kill yourself.
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Just need to play 3 more matches for the quest
im playing suicidecraft pls help

Match ID: 45888
>>
>>171966228
who is this
>>
>>171958775
Unica is fine in Nep, she's a really solid pseudo ward that can heal later and 2 drop last words are mostly shit anyway.
>>
>T2
>get sword
>easy 4 wins
>get shadow
>easy 3 wins
>any other class
>lol good fucking luck
>>
>>171966590
But anon, the holocaust isn't real.
>>
Does Urd reset cards' abilities?
>>
>>171966332
it was pretty fun seeing all the other VAs wetting their panties over inoue
>>
>>171966692
Dragon is great as well.
>>
>people complaining about every crafts new legendaries but bloods
>8pp 25/25
>only countered by extremely hard removal which there is very little of

I always knew /svg/ was full of unga blood shitters
>>
>>171966727
What do you mean by reset abilities?
If you mean fanfare, that's for cards played from the hand only.
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>>171966806
Doesn't
Even
Cost
An
Evo
Point
>>
>>171965960
wait until the 26th of february and then get killed by albert instead
>>
>>171966806
Don't forget you can cheat it out 2 turns early.
>>
>>171966727
she resets storm and rush assuming it doesn't come from fanfare effects
>>
>>171966883
when is someone gonna draw Vania pegging Zirnitra while cucked Rowen watches
>>
>>171966806
lol just calamitous curse bro
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>>171966806
CHARGE WITH ME BROTHERS, FOR ALONE WE WERE FEEBLE, BUT TOGETHER WE'RE UNSTOPPABLE!
>>
>>171966469
It wasn't a pact summon, regular 8pp Pluto drop.
Pluto'd the Bahamut he wanted to get the sick -10 HP kill with and he didn't have an answer for it
>>
>>171966806
>unga blood shitters
>will never see play in aggro
Some respect for us control patricians.
>>
>>171967081
>4 damage
>>
>>171967008
Why can't it be Urias. I don't think any would mind being cucked by Vania.
>>
>>171964064
Roach forest is viable, fun, and will give you higher winrate potential than DShift. People who play DShift on ladder just to autowin against control and autolose against (more common) aggro are the lowest of human scum.
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>>171967181
>Blood moon + baphomet
You sure about that?
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>>171967210
Truly way too fine for an ordinary person
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>>171967210
>what is JO
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>>171966806
>turn 8 do nothing
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>>171967349
How could this card be changed to make it viable beyond meme status? I would reduce the cost to 3 or 4.
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>>171966806
Lightning blast.

>>171966986
Then it becomes a 6pp 20/20 because of amulet space.
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>>171967424
Put Grinmir in the game
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>>171967498
wow what a loss
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>>171967379
>turn 8
LMFAO
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>thinking man's deck
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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>>171966846
Lets say you play her the turn after you played a Vahalla General, will he give another +3/3 to a follower?
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>>171967556
>turn 5 2/1
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>>171967570
No, because that's a fanfare effect. If a follower has storm or rush without it being fanfare, they can attack, you destroy them, and attack again, however.
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>>171967424
They just need more spells in their library to fill out. I think the cost is fine because you can really, really run away with them once you got them barring a bahamut, soon to be lightning blast, or a rune that tech'd

That said, I could really go for a 2pp dragontooth necklace that would make a 1/1 dragonnewt skeleton when a spell is cast and a 3-4pp +1 dmg to spells and effects against enemy followers
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>>171967550
It's a big difference, opponent removes 1-2 now you don't have lethal unless you pull some shenanigans with Ariett.
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>>171967349
>>171967359
A fucking meme, no matter how much you try pushing it.
You'd get a 10pp lightning blast more consistently than pendant+conflag.
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>>171959984
>make class around using consumable death count and on-minion-death effects
>then give everyone multiple ways to neuter that completely
Oy vey this is another Vengeance
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>>171967658
vengeance cards are pretty tough if you're running under moon
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>>171967779
t. ordinary person.
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>>171955543
the slightly less unga albertcraft that plays wards.
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>>171967570
Also, because it doesn't trigger fanfare, you can use it as psuedo-removal on enemy creatures. Any bonuses they get as fanfare will be wiped. Albert will only be able to attack once, Pluto will be reduced to a 1/1, etc. At the worst she removes a creature's evolve.
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>>171967558
I did this last week
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>>171967570
Fanfare effects only activate when you yourself play the follower from your hand
Sahaquiel cant trigger bahamuts fanfare for example when she pulls him onto the board
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>>171966562
Thanks for typing that out, since I'm the shitlord with the 2 merlin pack from earlier, I think D.shit will be cheaper than crafting a forest deck when I only have 2 roaches and 1 ancient elf.
>>171967227
I think I'll play forest after the next expansion drops.
When I draw all the ToG packs, I should get enough vails to craft all the necessary stuff.
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What does a pure Roach list look like after the Goblin Mage nerf? I want to play it but don't want to craft stuff for Wolfbolt.
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>>171967864
t. memer, who probably hasn't even played more than one JO game seriously, but likes to pretend it's a viable build for ranked climbing.
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>>171966806
>8pp dies to themis
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>>171967227
>dshift has a bad matchup
>forest doesn't have any
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>>171968129
>6pp, wins if they don't have themis
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>>171968027
Nothing changed. You still run goblin mage and feena
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>>171968129
>>only countered by extremely hard removal which there is very little of
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>>171967570
VALLHALLA IS THE NIQQA!
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>Against rune
>It's Dirt
>nice.png
>He wins on the back of Levi into evolve on turn 4, 5 and 6
>Didn't even rely on rune's wincons
Totally got OUTPLAYED there! What an amazing fun and balanced card!

IDS JUST LIKE BAGG IN DA OLDD DAYYS :DDD
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>>171967954
No problem. But remember before you craft the last merlin. Dshift is difficult to climb ladder with because it's win rate can be poor at times and it is slow like a control deck. Most people want to rank up as fast as possible so they play something with quick matches like aggro and aggro counters dshift pretty hard. It is a fun deck to play though. There is nothing funnier than pulling off a win on turn 7 verses some poor control bastard.
Have fun!
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>>171968347
>dirt
>wincon
What did he mean by this
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>>171968278
Can't wait for haven Ragnarok.
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Aggro unica meta
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What's the average rank of a svgfag? D2?
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>>171968347
>losing to dirtrune
Literally get good loser
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>>171968621
xD
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>decide to craft control sword because i'm a havenigger and almost all haven decks will be shit in next expansion
>open some RoB packs
>get saha, imperial dragoon, 10 dragon fevers and third bahamut
Looks like god wants me to suffer
Show me some dragon decks
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>>171968621
I-I'm A1...
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>>171968347
>Dirt can't shift the dick from its gushing axe wound
>Erasmus is too slow
>Pascale struggles
>Conjuring force struggles

>>171968621
Can't even get into D
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>>171968027
most popular one takes out all 1 drops except may
I don't like it too much because there is no consistency with gobu pulls but some people are having success apparently
nothing worse than calculating lethal and then forgetting you still had one more may in your deck and you pull her from a 0 cost gobu instead of roach.

http://game-ai.jp/25360/
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>>171968795
>suffer
>when Dragon is tier 1 next expansion
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>>171968347
>IDS JUST LIKE BAGG IN DA OLDD DAYYS :DDD
Don't underestimate dirt magicians.

http://usamin.love/card/timeworn_mage_levi/j_summon.wav
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>>171968795
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>>171968849
tfw still in A1 since early january despite an 80% winrate because I only play very rarely and it takes forever to rank up

The game servers will be closed before I reach masters desu
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>>171968621
Low master
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Last pack opening before the expansion assuming no lucky daily. Grant me your JO energy!
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>>171968191
According to Shadowlog DShift has a ~20% winrate against Aggro Blood and ~17% against Aggro Shadow. Literally no other deck has matchups like that, *except* for control against fucking DShift. Roach's worst matchup is still ~40%.
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I fucking hate Unica.
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>>171969070
I'd love to see the look on their face just when they realized they lost that match.
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>>171969116
>Not playing T2 and going 5-0 for profit and packs
I've opened like 8 packs today and only lost like 30 gold total.
Opened only 4 golds and no leggos.
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>get 3 standard packs from dily bonus + win 6 ranked matches reward + win 7 ranked matches reward
>2x Cerberus + 1x Meme Dealer

I already had 3 cerbs but I ain't gonna complain about 2000 dust from 2 packs
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>>171969116
WE'RE WITH YOUR BROTHER!
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>>171968901
You mean dshift.
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>>171950736
> knitting sweaters for your cats

c u t e
u
t
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Just need to play 14 more matches for the quest
im playing suicide bloodcraft
help and the beast dominator will let u lick her foot
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>>171969281
how much gold will you drop on tog?
how much will you keep for T2?
I feel like when I have the money for T2 I either still need to get stuff from the expansion packs or I need to start saving for the next one. I'm trying to find the perect balance so I can play T2 often without worrying about losing money for my packs.
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>>171969281
I was told to save my tickets for the updated T2.
>>171969475
I failed you.
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>>171969669
>updated T2
What?
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>>171969669
>Demonic strike, Roc, and twin-headed
Glory Be!
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>>171969562
room id?
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Did they do the DE packs from T2 before or after RoB? I forget.
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>>171969717
Ignore flame and glass since they were already out of the pool.
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>>171969853
long before
just a few weeks after the expansion came out
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>>171969853
Before.
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>>171969562

room id
71252
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I'm mad I just bought all these havencraft cards and this craft is weak as fuck

I'm going back to blood where I can win matches in 7 turns instead of stalling matches for 20 minutes.

Fuck havencraft
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>>171969512
Why was her tail amputated for SV?
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>>171969910
[citation needed]
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>>171969910
forest is going to be terrible
if they ever start rotating things out of ranked I legit quit this game
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>Mirror match
>Enemy has the perfect curve while you have nothing
Every fucking time.
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>>171969951
Havencraft is for ladyboys, they can't fight fair like a man. I suggest you to try mid range or control sword.
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>>171970124
>if they ever start rotating things out of ranked

Doesn't every single card game have some rotation or ban list system?
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>>171964926
Have you even seen the expansion cards?
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>>171970001
hidden! it's hidden under the skirt not to distract people too much
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>>171969910
Source?
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>>171969951
What the fuck did you expect from Countdown Amulets, Wards, Heals, and Board Clears?

You're right about Haven being ass, but that has nothing to do with the pace of its game - it's the fact that most of its variants match up poorly against the current popular meta contenders. Haven is being pushed in Tempest for a reason.
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>>171970124
>Forestnigger scared to death that he might have to play something other than roaches
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>Dragon player puts TWO dracomancer rites down on the field

That doesn't look like such a bright idea...
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>>171969939
got that suicide list, want to try my achievements too
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>>171970124
They're going to have to or new expansions of 100+ cards will only change decks by one or two cards each time. My hope would be that they rotate some cards into the standard set, like Unica.
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>>171970327
the current albert-only sword will be meh though
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>>171969484
I want to mag muh Gisa's, Magisa, gisas.
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13 MORE MATCHES TO GO
easy win against me,playing suicide bloodcraft

Match ID: 71252

help me and the beast dominator will let u drink from her foot
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>>171969589
I have a total of 6k gold but I haven't claimed any of the AI elite 2 rewards or the T2 achievements, so it's probably a lot more than that. Plus I've got 2k crystals.

So I will probably just spend 4-5k in packs, see what I get and go with daily deals for the rest of the month while playing T2.
I'm doing some runs now because I don't know how the card pool changes will affect each craft and I wanted to have some fun playing sword and shadow still.

The only way you can actually manage to complete each expansion's set while having gold for the next one is by either spending money on crystals or getting really lucky with your pulls. Although the free tickets they give are actually enough to make sure you don't just starve yourself out of gold if you can manage going 4-1 or 5-0 constantly.
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>>171970057
>>171970362
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0082
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>>171970124
Forest loses all its garbage legendaries and all its combo cards which are also garbage in arena. Roach and AE are mediocre because they require synergy from the rest of your deck which is something you can't reliably draft in take 2.

This should improve forest's arena standing because ToG introduces some heavier cards that are strong on their own while removing some of the standard cards that don't help arena.

Arena is a completely different game mode from constructed. Sword rules arena because all their cards are just over-statted bullshit where any kind of synergy is treated as a bonus and not a requirement to play a card, so it doesn't matter what you draft.
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>dust fairycraft because the class is antifun
>fairycraft missions daily
why do they do it
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>have to make a 50-50 call
>choose wrong and lose because it.
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>>171970546
Why is Charlotta so smug?
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It was a nice goodbye gift since this was probably my last RoB pack.
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>>171970775
whats wrong with forestcraft
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>>171971010
its not fun
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>>171971032
Bouncing back Tia gets me hard everytime.
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>>171970439
Fuck off Brick I know it's you
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>>171971032
Have you tried playing it differently?
I liked it better when I stopped trying to play roachcraft
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>>171970279
I won a match that went on for like 35 minutes and I won because the other dude ran out of cards

I will never play that pussy craft again
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Sahaquiel is a literal slut.
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>>171970282
Ban/limited list!=rotations

Besides I don't even know what's better, looking at YGO. But that's all konami's fault, as usual.
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>>171971329
Sahaquiel belongs to Lucifer
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Will fairy cage make Rose Queen viable?
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>>171970124
That's not how formats work.

When they introduce the rotating format they will also introduce an eternal format where you can play everything. If you are attached to your decks you can play them there.
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>>171971479
Not even in the slightest.
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>>171971204
I do have a couple of rose queens sitting in my collection catching dust, do you have any not-shit list I can take as an example? Keep in mind I have no other forest legos, except for 2 ancient elves.
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>>171971354
Rotation is good when the game is built around the concept. It's especially effective for digital games because you don't really need to worry as much about devaluing player collections and all that other semi-political bullcrap TCGs have to worry about.
>>
36747

Concede please
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>>171971267
Wait, you don't enjoy watching the opponent struggle in vain until he gives up?

(There is still Storm Haven for fast games.)
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>>171970282
YGO is the biggest CCG that does not use one and it's banlist is a fucking mess.

Also AFAIK konami does have tournaments for any legacy formats.
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>>171971190
>Plays angel crusher and reapers himself

I bet it was u lmao
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>>171966332
my wife is cute and pure and does not deserve any type of bullying
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>>171971479
Doesnt fill your hand with fairies. No
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>>171971445
Soon she will belong to Israfil too
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Today i have banished my own seraph. How was your day, /svg/?
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>>171971479
If Fairy queen had an ongoing effect that turned any fairy in your hand into a thorn burst, then yeah it would actually work if you pulled her from a wolf.

Otherwise no it does nothing.
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I need a decent deck for one of these classes that doesn't require leggos:

- Forest
- Dragon
- Shadow
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>>171971705

Okay, but Konami's fuckin dumb.

Just take a look at the 9 month Nekroz format.

That could've been changed with meaningful list changes, they chose not to.
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>People who play Tier 1 decks copied straight from a website in unranked
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>>171971896
>no dragon leggos
Shitty face dragon with whales instead of forte
>forest
Lmao
>shadow
You can run aggro shadow and replace cerb with a cursed soldier
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>>171971896
the budget shadow deck to end all budgets
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>>171971645
Thanks Yayoi.
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>>171971896
>dragon without legendaries
Good luck. Forte and bahamut are the only way they can win matches.
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>>171972063
>6 silvers
Do I look like bill gates to you?
>>
post your favorite card quotes
http://usamin.love/card/timeworn_mage_levi/e_evolve.wav
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Well add this to the list of things I thought I'd never do
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>mfw never dusted my playset of atomemes even though people said he's bad
>mfw he's going to be meta starting next week
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>>171972063
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.
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I need a concession. Please, help a fellow anon out!

80392
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>>171971594
rose queen doesnt work without white wolf
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>>171972337
>Shadowcraft wipes their board for Atomeme
>DoD
>HMPH I'M LEAVING
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>>171972257
http://usamin.love/card/azazel/j_evolve.wav
I don't know what that oriental man is saying but he's saying it really well.
Blood in general has great lines.
http://usamin.love/card/veight_vampire_noble/e_summon.wav
http://usamin.love/card/bloody_mary/e_attack.wav
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>>171970971
oh boy a khawy
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>>171972138
What can one make with just Forte? Some cheap Face list?
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>>171971479
it doesnt give you a fairy if you have one on hands
it's to fuel combos when you immediately play the given fairy

for rose queen you can consider pixie paradise
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>>171972454
https://twitter.com/musaPsumameito/status/842208857036275712
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>>171972532
yes
also can be played with seabrands instead of forte
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>>171972257
http://usamin.love/card/ice_blade_warfiend/e_effect.wav

http://usamin.love/card/silent_rider/e_summon.wav
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>>171972454
Someone post the twitter link to that guy turn 2 or 3 atomemeing and getting fucked
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>>171970546
Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I'm at 3.5 k gold right now and only ftp so no crystals.
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>>171968447
>tfw testing my dick shift at the moment
That's pretty fucking cancerous, I love it.
The feeling of not being the one at the receiving end is pretty fucking nice.
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>>171971705
>Also AFAIK konami does have tournaments for any legacy formats.
Not anymore. The only official tournaments being held use the most recent Advanced Format banlist.
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>>171972629
>https://twitter.com/musaPsumameito/status/842208857036275712
I can just feel his despair seeping through the screen
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>>171972532
>cheap Face list
The only legendary Face runs is Forte, so that would just be a regular Face deck.
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>>171971594
Nope.
Unfortunately my deck is pretty jank because I just gutted a roach deck.

But I'll share my list anyway
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>>171973026
I don't actually know what a Face list looks like, to be honest.
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>>171972629
Seriously they should make Atomy immune to magic for the first turn. This is just ridicilous.
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>>171972823
Just use it all up on the new expansion or whatever packs you need cards from and save the tickets they give out.
I'm not sure if they will do it again, but in the previous expansion they changed the T2 rewards briefly allowing you to get packs other than the Standard one.

If it turns out they aren't going to do it again, then you can just use the tickets before the next expansion and get your gold for it that way.
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>>171972629
never gets old
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>>171973202
Take a look at those:
http://game-ai.jp/25677/
http://game-ai.jp/25117/
>>
Monika is fat.
>>
i will make a big edit of all budget decks but only when tog is UP
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will ramp be better next xpac?
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>>171973482
Neck yourself kid
Monika is perfect
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What makes JO satan not viable?
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>>171971676
So many cool aggro, face, storm decks, i really hope that they'll stay viable. Not a fan of long games or dshift.
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>>171973589
Just look at that fat face and oversized thighs
What a piggy
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>>171972454
But what do you do about the Mammoth?
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>>171973629
>lose game if enemy plays nothing
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>>171973554
If you have 10500 vials for the new lego then yes
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>>171973734
I want my face between those perfect thighs
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easy win against me
playing suicide bloodcraft
help the beast dominator to be happy
Match id: 71252
>>
Let's say I have a Memes in the Sky and Ironwrought Fortress on my field. Memes has four left on its CD. I play some shitter commander that summons two minions, let's say Noble Knight.

The knight made by the ironwrought fortress is going to fizzle, but the question is, does it contribute to the countdown on memes in the sky?
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>>171973629
Lack of healing
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>>171973629
The part where it doesn't play good followers (if any at all, as the memes would suggest).

Well, that and the fact that even if you manage to drag a game to 10pp +1 turn, you're not guaranteed to draw Astaroth.
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>>171973589
>voiced by Erin Shitzgerald
>perfect
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>>171971676
storm haven still feels slow as fuck. I hate waiting for beastcall arias.
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>>171972063
This is a good deck, just tried it in ranked and won against some unga Albert.
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>>171973760
yeah i do. ty i love leggos. also is imperial dragoon any good in ramp? i have 2
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>>171973912
No, it doesn't. Cards that get banished due to board overflow don't count as entering play, much less in any specific way.
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>>171974079
>is a card that discards my whole hand good
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>>171973424
Thank you, anon.
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I wanna be hot af like these 2D girls.
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>>171974157
I agree, daria is shit
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>>171973971
https://clyp.it/atkhrk0a
oy vey
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>>171974264
Daria doesn't discard your hand
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>>171973235
implying it would help :3

>>171973723
no, the aggro is dead in 4 days, the only viable decks will cost about 30-40+k vials unless they are d-shift; not even kidding, just look at these new supposed dragon decks with nearly 1/3 of cards being leggos
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>>171974079
One-of finisher, useful for clearing the way for your Bahamuts or whatever big guys you have on board.
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>>171972629
literally the manchildrencraft
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>>171974123
Thanks.
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Reroll yes or no?
1/2
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>>171974258
pay some artist to drew you 2d :^)
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>>171974478
>flute
reroll
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What are the odds?
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>>171974638
may be it's the fate, you should both fall in love and marry <3
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>>171974478
2/2
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>>171974576
dumb vampyposter
>>
>play frozen mammoth
>play goblin princess
>play Atomy
>get a 6/7, an 8/8,, 4 shadows, and draw a 4 mana 5/5 ward, for 8 mana total
>you can do this on turn 5
>it even leaves turn 4 open for Teena/Playful Necro to maintain tempo
Why is this allowed?
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is 3x bahamut, 3x sahaquiel, and 3x lucifer too much in a ramp dragon deck?
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>go to gameAI
>check the new midrange sword list
>look at the top

What the fug?
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Good times, i'll miss you Morde, i'll miss you too, Nep. It was fun while it lasted
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>>171974586
Isn't Albert, Otohime and alexander pretty good though? Same for sun oracle.
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>>171974478
6.5 of your 8 legos are garbage.

I'd reroll.
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>>171974964
he said in the explanation it's for the very slim chance someone has hungering horde
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>>171974478
>>171974791
My apologies
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>>171975012
Albert is the best card in the game
Otohime was good, when aoe was not as common as it is now
Alexander got replaced by cyclone blade, but you can run him if you want to
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>>171972546
Rose Queen only needs 4 to 5 fairies in hand, which is done easily enough with the usual generators. You don't need meme shit like Paradise or Princess

t. Made it to masters from B with Rose Queen
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>>171974943
Ramp decks currently runs all of that and other shit like Satan, Odin, and Dragoon. Some lists choose to have 2x Satan and 2x Bahamut instead of 3x Bahamut and 1x Satan though.
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>>171975012
Yes but he's so good you want to pull at least 2.
Out powered creeped.
Very situational.
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>>171975308
>Albert is the best card in the game
that's funny
>>
>>171974964
When will Fangblade start getting used?
>>
Why are people saying Atomy will be good in ToG? What did I miss?
>>
>>171975364
do they run traditionally just good cards like dragon warrior and siegfried?
>>
>>171975521
some people use him

>>171975354
>Made it to masters from B with Rose Queen
j-just how many games did it take?
>>
>>171975559
Prince Catacomb?
>>
>>171975521
more often in ToG for aegis and oroborous
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>>171975559
he will not

>>171975652
we already have chimera, the problem is not to summon atomy but to keep him alive, iirc shadow got no mist shaman of its own
>>
>>171975674
>aegis
cancel that, pls don't flame
>>
>>171975652
What about him?
Atomy is still heavily reliant on being drawn early in the game. Until Shadow gets tools to do that, he's going to be a meme.
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>>171975559
Frozen mammoth
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>>171975604
Dragon Warrior yes, though Siggy has pretty much been dropped for the SahaLuci combo.
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>>171975674
>for aegis
he will do nothing vs aegis and ouroboros will just kill him back, heal rowen for his burn damage and reappear in rowen's hand
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>>171975631
A lot of fucking games. But if it's your waifu there is no excuse if you don't ride her through A and AA.
>>
>>171975959
i would like forte to take me for a ride up to masters from aa1, but i dont know how to build her into a deck with the new meta coming and all
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>>171976053
forte will be a part of the upcoming t1 decks
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>>171975415
>>171975308
>>171975085
>>171975041
About how many good legendaries should I try to get? Also how do I know what is good so I dont just flood the thread with pictures.
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>>171974964
>Otomeme
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>>171974964
>gameAI
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>>171976053
Just play face dragon
Ram evolved fortes into enemies face
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>>171975930
>he will do nothing vs aegis
He will deal 3 face damage, and act as a ward if they don't have removal.
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>>171976342
>>171976396
Not an argument.
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>>171976334
>what is the link in the OP?
>what is google?
No idea anon
Just flood the thread with your pictures, we don't have anything to do until expansion hits anyway
>>
>>171976334
3 darias or bust
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>>171976342
how do aggro sword, daria, dshift and forest deal with her
please note that's all you'll find in master rank right now
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>>171976342
I like to pronounce it Oto-mee-may
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>>171954497
Why is there a tiny flying horse in armor?
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>>171975012
Lord no, Pascale was some of the hottest garbage in the game even before all the new removal options kicked in.

You're paying a cost for zero up front effect, and the end result is rarely impressive.

Pic not related, because that dork was just masturbating. No board clear or meaningful followers ever.
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Remember to leave turn 2 fairies alive to give your opponent a false sense of confidence.
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>>171976502
if he attacks aegis with rush he will do 3 points of burn and dies for nothing

if he stay still aegis will hit face for 8 and they drop a ward or test of strength to prevent fanglade from attacking face, or they just take 3 damage who cares when they deliver 8
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>bahamut seraph synergy
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>>171976775
that cupid :3
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>>171976861
I don't understand, how is Pascale bad? You have all the wards to hide her behind and buff at the same time.
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>>171976476
will it be viable after the new set releases?

>>171976212
which ones, or do you just mean in general because dragon got the banish card
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>>171977205
ouroboros ramp, neutral storm ramp
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>>171977196
extremely easy to remove
wards wont save her from spells
plus bahamut cucking you from your sigils
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>>171977196
When does dirt ever have a lead on the board to make use of Pascale?
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>>171977336
Shortly before the bahamuts start dropping
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>>171977336
>dirt doesn't generate minions/wards enough
??
HIMITSU NO-
HIMITSU NO-
HIMITSU NO
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>>171977336
so that's why they're giving dirt that new ambush follower
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>>171977430
The minions on board need to stay alive until you can play Pascale (which costs 5PP and a sigil) and buff them.
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>>171976212
LOL
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>>171957278
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>>171976918
tried that, it can be fun, but overall is pretty meh
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I can't decide
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>>171977924
satan
>>
new:
>>171978035
>>171978035
>>171978035
>>171978035
>>171978035
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>>171977924
moon
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>>171977430
to play her early you need:
>wards to shield her from evolve poking + earth sigil to trigger her effect
>opponent having 0 followers (basically skipping a turn)
>still dies to spells
Lategame doesnt matter since they can easily remove her with anything
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>>171977924
Cunny bunny!
>>
dead general dead game
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>>171977896
Did you win since the turn player's last words go off first
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