/bnsg/ - Blade and Soul General

cat lyns #1
also lyn feet are cute

http://bnsgindex.imgur.com/

Threadly reminder

Reminder that ncsoft will kill this game.

Reminder to all non-warlock, assassin and BD's.

If you want to have any semblence of PvP fun in this game do so before the patch, you will not have fun in PvP after that.

>>171876076
>bns
>PvP
>fun
yeah, no

Reminder Cavok has the cutest feet

7th for posting about Kyoppi

Crimson #1

>>171876005
Don't worry anon. Blade and Soul will live on, as a cameo in a korean moba, like with City of Heroes: https://www.playmxm.com/en/masters/statesman

>>171876253
but I already got the first post

>>171876005
ERPers can keep a game alive for a surprising amount of time.

DED GAME
DED GENERAL

Threadly reminder:

Games that have already killed bns
>dsg3
>XIV
>BDO
>WoW Legion
>Revo

Games that will kill bns (for sure this time):
>Bless
>Lineage Eternal
>Lost Ark
>Eleria
>Twilight Spirits

Death of bns confirmed for Q2 2017.

So ncsoft is going to make it possible to jump to lv 50.
I know KR had an insta-lv 45 ticket. Does anyone know how theirs was implemented? I want to get back into bns so I'd like to know more

>>171876484
>most of those are deader games or literally who titles

>>171876590
>The joke
>(You)

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>>171876484
>Revo kill anything.
Fucking kek.

>>171876564
if it's like in oea, with the ticket you make a character that's max level. you are sent to an arena where you get an skippable brief tutorial on how that class works, then gives you item bundles with items you should have at that level and allows you to set up your stats and skills. after that you are sent to town.

>>171876915
anyone who believed it would didn't play the mess that was skyforge

>>171876915
>>171876996
still waiting for refund for that trash

>>171876996
What even happened to that game, did it ever release?

>>171877350
>mycom
>ever releasing something from perpetual cbt

>>171876335
cool~

>>171877350
I heard the grind was reduced but it was too late and p2w events had already killed it

>>171876484

Where's OW on that list? Didn't the thread have shills rampant then?

>>171877559
OW did take away a lot of our players though

>>171877559
using shills to describe blizzdrones is an insult to shills

Anyone has working nude mod?

>>171878285
Yes please.

>>171878285

detailed or basic nude mod

>>171878585
Something that gives Yun a bit more definition would be nice

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DC + JSY "1000g" Edition

NA # 190 357

>>171878585
Perfect lyn details.

>>171878585
does the detailed one still look bad down there, if so the basic one please

>>171878585
What's the difference?

>>171878585
>>171878905
Please give lyn nude mod

>>171878905
>>171879452
pedos

>>171879007
>>171879039

basic one here, dont have the detailed one ( no lyn either )

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ivjd03blr1j1309/NoodPatch.rar

>>171880470
>no lyn
What's the point?

Are assassins fun? What class would you recommend for a new player?

stream
twitch /bladeandsoul

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>>171878759
2/4

Send help.

>>171880592

I think you know the answer to that one

>>171880704
200g and i'll join

>>171880707

Fuck off chou.

>>171880938
who?

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>Playing BnS in 1999+1+16+1

>>171876076
jokes on you im just gonna buy a level 50 assassin and suddenly become 20x better for no apparent reason

>>171881358
best f2p erp baka desu senpai

4MAN REMOVED
+2 TO THE STATICS
TRYOUTS WHEN

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>>171878759
3/4

>>171880597
to effectively play assassin you need:
i7-7700k
gtx 1080
16gb ram
ssd
10ms ping

>>171883313
Okay I laughed.

>>171883597
>not specifying the ssd
nice job giving bad info, if it's not an m2 or pci-e they're unplayable

>>171883976
>not playing bns from ramdisk
lmao

>>171882238
who's going to be the other 2 in their party?

>Favorite keyboard and my FPS mouse die within an hour of each other.
>Case panel cuts my finger open
>Ruined my shrimp ramen noodles
Is this one of those days that life tries to see if you've got enough courage to kill yourself or go on a armed rampage?

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NA 198039 1/6
Quick Ebondrake/Tomb run please
Closing up shop in a half hour

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>2017
>still no gul album

So what the best nude mod for lyns?

>>171887170
Gaskammer

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>edging for 3 fucking hours now
WHERE R THE FUCKING LEWDS RYZNA

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Hi, are we excited for the new content on the 12th bnsg?

>>171887458
for real, i need those titties and ayylmaos

>SPTS major price drop SOON
thank god

Why is this game designed around your latency?

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>>171887458

>>171887717
source?

>>171887718

so we dont fall asleep between skill usage like in FFXIV 2.5 gcd

>>171887226
Sauce please.

>>171887779
BNS 12 April content stream

Apparently transmute cost for SPTS is now only 15g and the mats required have been halved. I'm not sure if the success rate will be increased too.

Waiting for recaps from reddit

>>171887718
The furthest city from seoul in korea is only 325 kilometers. It's like if all of us lived in texas.

>>171880693
>free costume+free blue pet+AP red blue and yellow hexas from completing the story
>free costume is only for 3 weeks after patch - pet and gems are 4ever
>4man dungeons removed
>6man normal and 6man hard modes added
>all dgs up to DT will NOT have hard mode, only normal mode - loot table/achievs obviously moved
>from DT onwards, dgs will have 6man hard mode
>bosses have more hp, rotate their spells/mechanics more frequently
>better chances of drop, more loot on hard mode
>no boss tokens for aman for a few weeks, bracelet (box) drop only
>also no aman rings for a few weeks
>mushin 16+ will have ranks for speed clears like toi with week/season rewards
>darts, ornaments will have their icons changed to some shitty ball
>they are just like our darts/ornaments - can sell and shit
>can't use them as upgrade mat, need to transform to a crystal
>crystal is not tradeable, is bound
>same will happen to ss and ms (they dont have their icons changed though)
>new non-raid weapon progression
>everything from ivorymoon to baleful 10 will get the cheap treatment again
>no need to farm ssp/cs to get weapon to go legendary weapon, can buy a new mat from the i tab
>drake neck, ring and belt will be made acc bound
>psts chance to fail reduced (easier to craft now), needs less mats and less gold per craft
I think that's more or less it, there are more shit, but they are all worthless shit that most know about now.
They didn't talk about: the new skill tree (will have another stream on the 6th), if the toi badges will be updated like they recently were in KR, the insta lv50.

>>171887754
god bless

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>>171887965
Awesome!

>>171888007
wait they are removing 4 man dungeons? thats kinda lame desu.

>>171887717
>soon
They are already happening senpai.
Down 30g @NA already. People are mass selling because shit'll be cheap, so they tryin to get a few goldies now.

>>171888007
>>also no aman rings for a few weeks
for heavenly energies*

>>171888007

>free costume after completing the story

And I stopped there, looks like I'm invigorated to play this shit game again.

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>mfw prices be tumbling down down down down down

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Anyone for sundered nexus?
NA #201036 1/6

>>171888459
>inb4 costume looks just as shitty as regal diplomat

>>171888007
any word on the rumor that existing hongmoon accessories will no longer be upgradeable after this patch?

>>171886389

Disbanded.

>>171888657

Nothing mentioned on stream. As far as we're aware it was misinformation.

>>171888623

I don't really care anon, I did the daily dash for nght luna and regium corvus then and never wore it once.

It's collection autism, what else can I say.

>>171888007
if there is no 4 man anymore and there won't be hard mode for lower dungeons than DT, to get outfits from dungeons we'll have the same probability as in bsc and bsh right?

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>>171875868

>trove is the best time to invest

JUST

>>171888520
ended

>>171889424
When should I sell my stash of upgrade stuff like ornaments?

>>171889428
Are these Cavok's feet? who spilled mayonnaise on them?

>>171887754
imgur please

>>171889683
Cavoks feet are pure, I never want to see you insinuate something to this foul degree ever again

>>171880470
Hey can't get the lyns working here?

>>171889683
No that's ice cream.

>>171889795
He's a good blade dancer but maybe he's a clumsy chef that drops condiments on his feet sometimes??

>>171889830

it says no lyns...

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Can we just post floofs instead? feet are weird...

>>171888623
Costume looks actually good for females.

>>171888657
>https://twitter.com/Babbletr0n/status/842817702888529924
That was just misinfo.

>>171888842
I wish I had been active while those two were around...

>>171890286
Asking if he can add, what's the point of getting all races expect one.

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>>171890078
>Clumsy Cavok

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NA Foundry #203999

>>171890356
once again males get nothing nice
time for a sex change I guess

>>171890675
3/6 or we can go as 4 with a tank

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where do I get one of these?
also pls don't hack her

>>171890675
4/6

I was reading how to unlock tier 5 skills, and 1 needs some achievment where I have to use lightining draw 10 times on certain bosses. Can I just use the upgraded path (searing something) or do I have to stick to lighting draw for the thing to unlock?

>>171890690
>Play waifu and Loli+shota sim
>Expecting Males to get any attention.
Nigga if you want shit like that go play a WMMO where they actually care what women want in games.
Koreashit games only care about selling titties and ass to lonely men.

>>171891130
join the quality assurance team

>>171890675
5/6

>>171892267
The guys in this game are hot af, what are you on about?

post lewd mods

So, the new weapons are raven weapons without the elemental damage modifier, and seraphs/balefull effects instead of raven skillboosts?

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>want to come back to check out the new content
>already quit and worried i'm gonna look like an attention whore

>>171892515
>Generic as fuck male outfits and male fashion
You're either a very boring faggot, or a ugly woman with no standards.
Or you're a pedo who likes lynboys.

>>171893850
same

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Is it okay to be a brown Jin?

>>171894545
eyelashes?

>>171894545
you're in for deportation

>>171893520
Basically, yes.

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>>171894756
I have some, why?

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>>171895178
That's the name of someone who used to post here. You just look a bit like her.

Pic related.

>>171895454
I just realized her mouth would be too small to throat my cock.

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>>171895454
No sorry, that's not me. She looks like a doll though. That's a cute outfit.

>>171895549
Just means you'd feel better between her legs.

>>171895549
>>171895891
pls don't lewd my waifu

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>>171892267
Please point me in the direction of a WMMO that has a hot piece of meat like Yu Chun

>>171896538
Put a baby in me Yu Chun

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>>171890349
Fluffy ears are better then feet imo.

>>171896734
>wong will never play again

>>171896734
Big floppy ears are the best.

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>>171890349
the 64bit client's best feature is the floppy ears

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>>171890349

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>>171896650
I'm almost embarrassed by the amount of screenshots I've taken of him.

Almost.

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>>171897183
Will you marry me

>>171895891
Small mouth doesn't mean tight pussy.

And I prefer throats to vaginas, anon. blow jobs and deep throating feels better.

>>171897330
no

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>>171897576
Ok

>>171897183
Can I floof your ear bulbs in memory of those long past?

>>171897916
maybe

>>171897183
Show me your eyes

>>171897376
fucking normies GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>171897992
Okay, once I catch up to you in dps. Then I will feel qualified enough.

>>171897183
Post spread lyn legs.

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>>171898039
i have no eyes

why are there 2 Ogongs?

i neven ran nf

>>171898259
Show me your regular hair slut

>>171898364
isn't there also mecha ogong

>>171898364
we can't find the real ogong

>>171897376
If we go by human proportions, smaller mouths implies a smaller body and in turn smaller vaginas.

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>>171898728
if you insist...

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>>171897376
What about throat bulges and smeared lipstick, anon?

>another jinf slut
is there even a single one that isnt a slut

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>>171900026
Nope. Even having a JinF alt makes you a slut.

>>171899879
Lips are too low on your face. Gives you a long face.

>>171898693
Why not join the occasional NF lobbies that are posted?

>>171900026
my waifu isn't a slut

>>171900317
Time to start over.

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>>171900312
no...

>>171900389
after tonight she will be

All Mjin look like fuccbois
All Mgon look like all they want to do is flex with other Mgons

>>171900704
Lolith! i miss u, also post moar

>>171900756
you don't even know who she is

>>171899879
when a girl or cute boy's throat bulges from my cock being in it... man that drives me wild.

>>171901104
:)

>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tpgl2YdB6cNjsb2CTrIRqesa1wVs4x0fHfAnzLtgisw/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0
List with all badges/amulets with up to date effects.
FM's core fusion badge is DD+InfernoCDRMeteor fusion

>>171900796
>All Mgon look like all they want to do is flex with other Mgons

Mgons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa5rW_AJw-U

>make it to Asura's room for daily
>crash

I'm so upset

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>>171900931
I haven't gone anywhere, anon.

Hard mode - More HP, same mechanic.
Normal mode - Same HP, nerfed mechanic.

>DT
Normal mode: he only does 232 and 323
Hard mode: he does full rotation of 232, 323 and 232.

>EC
Bukka: CC at 90%, 60%, 30% only
Magolka: Balls at 60%
Zakhan: Mech at 90%, 60% and 30%

>NF
1st boss less phases
last:????

>NS
First boss only 70 and 30% phase, no fake adds phase.
Second boss, not sure he only does 1 phase.
Last boss 70% and 30% phase.

Also info properly stolen, I don't know shit dont ask

>>171900364
usually sleeping when they pop

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>>171901532
You sound like fun.

>>171902542
Ah, shoot. Hmm. I could try hosting some NF lobbies earlier some time in hopes that you will join.

It's not too intimidating of a dungeon, so you'd be fine, I'm sure!

>>171902786
Everyone has a throat. Only half the population has vaginas.

>>171903134
Mhmm, I couldn't have said it better myself.

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post

>>171899087
I don't want to say the obvious but once again anon proves that he is in fact a virgin.

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fuck this refined insignia farm tho

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>>171900796
I mean, you're right I guess

>>171904671
Took a bit, just makes it easier if you can watch something else while farming

>>171905303
>scar
Why this.

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>>171900796
>>171902089
This is pretty accurate. We always say no homo before flexing though
rip Edgemaster

>>171903134


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

how come literally every country has more boys than girls?

like whats the explanation for this? i thought a ton of guys died during ww1/ww2, how can there be over 7% more men in each country on average?

>>171905842
>Ywn pose with SP
j u s t

who do you want lewds of anon?

>>171906485
all the bnsg girls

>>171906428
lets pose right now faggot u wont

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>>171906537
Give like like 30 mins

>>171906485

pochi

>>171906156
>he doesn't know about female infanticide
some cultures really favor boys and as such kill baby girls or neglect them to death in order to free up resources for more boys. it's common in china and india.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide

>>171907007
wtf i hate men now

im a lesbian now

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>>171907007
remove men

>>171901840
Dual dragon + Inferno?

>On Dual Dragon hit, increase fire damage for 15 seconds
>On Inferno hit, Meteor CD 20 second reduction

Is there a reason why? I assume that fire damage increase is the same buff as dragonblaze apply, right? Will the new skill patch change it so dragonblaze's buff cannot not be chained?

Why isn't the blazing palm -0.8s on inferno the better one?
Since you will be able to use inferno every 25 to 30s, thus trigger another wave of meteor.

>>171906156
>>171907007
Stuff like this is why people need to stop ignoring feminists as if they're crazy psycho inverse nazi's.

Because no matter if you agree with all of what someone says or not, sometimes they actually say something important you should know about.

The whole "men are more privileged than women" thing isn't just bullshit made up by sexist women, it's actually a thing.

And here's a huge glaring example.
As you can see, in some places in the world, if you're born a girl, you're literally fucking marked for death.

This is why we have so many problems these days, is no one fucking talks to each other. They just shit on each others opinions and no one talks and no one listens to one another.
It's all echo chambers and everyone's batting for a team.

Janny's gonna ban me for this shit and no one in bsng actually gives a shit, but whatever.
I wish people would talk to eachother more instead of picking sides and shutting everyone else out.

>>171908031
once you get a raven weapon, you'll be resetting way too often to make use of the inferno cdr on lmb

>>171897183
TELL ME ABOUT CAVOK
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE VISOR

>>171908261
that's great and all but that shit doesnt happen in 1st world countries.

you cant raise awareness for a problem that doesnt exist in the country youre in. if they want to be useful they should go to africa and try bring feminism there.

i'd guess that most of this infanticide is happening not because of men, but because of women killing their own children. in which case, isnt that just the women being empowered? :^) i thought feminists were generally pro-choice? :^^^^^)

>>171908261
>modern feminists
>knowing what happens outside their own country
they wouldn't be demanding muslim refugees get free, unvetted entry if they did

Should I play this game

>>171908742
no

>>171900026
I'm not a slut

>>171908031
>>171908348
This plus the fact that now we have legendary bracelets.

One bracelet gives 6 seconds dmg buff for [2] on Dragonblaze hit
The other bracelet gives 10 seconds buff for [2] on DD hit

Blaze used to be good, but now with the skill tree update you have
>Blaze no CD -> Blaze has 12 seconds CD
>you only generate 1 frost and 1 fire orb, DD on demand because it keeps its 18sec CD
>HM 2 reduces DD CD by 1 second on hit
>you dont need to spec char to get awake char anymore, so you now use blazing beam 24/7 (BB was also buffed)

With this, you get way more bracelet proc from DD, you use way more DDs because of 2 and with the badge you don't need to use dragonblaze to keep the buff up.

Sure, we don't have badges fusion yet, but when we get it, the 0.8 cd on fire palm will be negligible and DD will be way more rewarding to use because of bracelet procs

>>171908794
Why not

>>171908538
>that's great and all but that shit doesnt happen in 1st world countries.
You'd be amazed at the insufferable amount of shit women still deal with in first world countries.

But that's besides the point.
>no matter if you agree with all of what someone says or not, sometimes they actually say something important you should know about.

This is what matters.


No society is ever going to make it anywhere if we keep holding onto this teams and banners mentality.
It'll all just fall apart.

Like the Senate voting to do away with every american's online privacy rights today,.

People trying to rally against one another, instead of trying to help each other out is how shit like this happens.

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DC - I forgot Orbs Edition

NA # 238 988

Lego dungeons after, though you don't have to stick around for them if you don't want to.

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>>171909075
Filled

>>171909054
>You'd be amazed at the insufferable amount of shit women still deal with in first world countries.

then they should get a list of these things together so that they can rally together

because i think most peoples issues with modern feminism is that they have no idea what they want and they seem to have trouble figuring it out themselves

>>171908163
Almost sure it doesnt, only for normal dgs that dont have hard mode, but need to confirm later

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And with that Vixen lobby filled it's time for the second set of 4-man DCs!

NA#239156

>>171909054
>You'd be amazed at the insufferable amount of shit women still deal with in first world countries.
I hope you are not serious right now. Either way fuck off to leftypol

>>171908261
>As you can see, in some places in the world,
Here's the problem, honey. "Some places in the world" doesn't mean "its a men problem" but "its a cultural problem".

Fight to change the sick culture of those bastars, no complain in you computer about "white cis male privileges".

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>>171909253
>>171909479
>Missing the point.

>>171909341
3/4

>>171909005
Looks like I can sell all my triumph tokens when it is time

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NA DC 240671

i fixed the crash with lyn nude edition

>>171910035
upload fix

>when you lose all your money in 30 minutes
Thank you babbletron and co.

>>171910151
What happened? Did everyone who invested in mats on trove just get fucked?

>>171910035
>sliderfu beautiful facial features for your character
>puts on glasses or masks to obscure said face
why do people do this

>>171910247
it's the stock market crash all over again, great bns depression

>>171910247
Primarily SFPTS and Ornament market got fucked with the new patch information.

>>171910035
Share the fix

>>171910371

but why the hons though?

>>171910371
>Ornament market got fucked
Huh.
Welp. I'm boned.
I need a new MMO that isn't made by fuckin retards, or Blizzard.

What do I do with this stock of 125 ornaments then?

>>171910623
blame ncsoft
sorry for your loss

>>171910247

From what I interpreted from the earlier post, stingers and ornaments are condensed into one item, not sure. Same with ss and ms. Premium stones and weapon line up to stage 10 lego will be reduced in cost/materials needed, as for premium stones the rate of success increases.

Basically either you sell off what you have in the currently post-stream saturated market, wait a bit to sell off or just accept your losses.

>>171910623
use them....?

>>171910623
how are you boned? You need that many ornaments for max legendary anyway
Unless you already have that in which case you're not boned in the slightest seeing as you're probably already loaded.

>>171910719
Pretty sure that's fran
I recall them buying a bunch of ornaments

>>171910676
>>171910719
Whats going to happen to my ornaments if i just let them sit till after the patch?

>>171910780
I thought fran ran off to overtwat?

>>171910781

Well, for sure you should just know that ornaments are going to be converted into another item and the ornaments themselves are going to turn into antiques.

>>171910781
most probably you will be able to convert them to whatever new upgrade mat they implement.

I wouldn't be too concerned though. NCsoft aren't complete idiots. If it's true that they are merging ornaments and stingers then they will balance the respective values upon salvage, I'm sure. Like maybe 1 stinger = 1 new mat while 1 ornament = 10 or something. They did that for silverfrost antidotes iirc.

>>171910925
what the fuck are you even saying fucking retard, ornaments and stingers are gonna get their icons changed and they will introduce unsealed ornaments

CAN'T KEEP LOSING MONEY ON ORNAMENTS IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ORNAMENTS LEFT

UPGRADE UPGRADE UPGRADE

>>171910992
Ornaments and Stingers aren't becoming the same item.

Ornaments, Stingers, Soulstones, and Moonstones are all getting the treatment where existing ones become effectively 'Sealed'/tradeable versions (Orns/Stingers actually completely change name to uh.. Crystals and some other shit), and going forward you'll mostly find 'Unsealed'/Account bound versions.

None of the 4 items being changed get merged together.

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>>171911023

I have zero fucking clue what's going on with ornaments, since I'm just basing it off what I'm understanding from the stream highlight post made by that anon earlier.

Both ways, I can fucking care less. I cashed out on my trove ornaments at 8-9g long before the stream even started.

>>171911037

>upgrading before upgrade cost reductions

>>171911149
Basically, the Naryu Tablet treatment?

>>171911254
t. na goldbuyer

>>171911306
Pretty much, with some fancier names.

>tfw the changes don't affect me because I can just use my credit card
It's nice.

>>171911356

Yes and what's your point yuropoor? After playing this shit for almost a year, the only worthwhile asset in this game is gold. You must be stupid to think there's a commodity item that won't end up being worth dirt.

>>171911746
dreadtide weapons are unobtainable so their value as a skin will only go up over time

>>171911254
hey dont blame me, I literally said they're just changing their icons but being generally the same

>>171888007
>>darts, ornaments will have their icons changed to some shitty ball
>>they are just like our darts/ornaments - can sell and shit

>>171911918
Watch as they release a dreadtide bundle on f10 for 399Ncoin

>>171911746
Investing in Ornaments was a huge risk and poor decision anyway.

The same thing happened with both stingers and moonstones. Anything that becomes a huge bottleneck eventually gets handed out like candy, especially if there's a new big patch coming. How are any of you this shocked?

>>171912161
>investing in something you need 2000 of is a risk
okay

>>171911918

an artisan infernal sword is still better, so it shouldn't go far from the price of that one

>>171912037
If they were smart enough to do that they wouldn't have left the cold iron offering sword skin the same as the cash shop one

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Anyone doing Foundry?

>>171912259
I'm up for it but my dps isn't raven tier

>worrying about market changes when you can farm infinite gold

>>171912302
neither is mine

>>171910780
Fran bought like 800.

>>171911918

Just because it's unobtainable doesn't mean it has increasing value. There's that and there's the fact that you can sell it at whatever price you want, but you still need to find a buyer to even make the listing cost back.

Obviously you socialist fucks won't understand that since your government just throws gibs and nannies over the market economy.

>>171912161

No item is really worth investing even if you skimmed the market by the copper.

>>171912406
The only thing Fran's buying 800 of are dumplings

>>171912207
Did you really think they would let something everyone needs thousands of stay at like 20g each

>>171912496
Everyone needs thousands of Evolved Stones and they are still 3.5 gold each
What's your point?

>>171912543
3g isnt 20g. This move still matches with things they've done in the past and isnt all that surprising

>>171910781
>>171910676
Getting this shit clear
Ornaments get automatically changed to "white orb" amd Stingers get automatically changed to "blue orb" (dont know their names)

White/Blue orbs are like sealed mats (like sealed naryu tabs/sealed silver coins), they're essentially the same as Orns/Stingers, negotiable/tradeable/F5able etc.

The catch is that you can't use them as an upgrade material anymore. This also applies to Soulstones and Moonstones (though the icons/names for those are still the same).
You need to "unseal" them, that is, right click it to transform them.
>white orb -> white crystal
>blue orb -> blue crystal
>soulstone -> green crystam
>moonstone -> yellow crystal

Those "crystals" are just like the unsealed mat, untradeable/can't F5 them and can't change back, but you can use them as an upgrade mat.

Their reasoning with this change, is that now they can give more "upgrade mats" without worrying about crashing the market, because they'll be giving the unsealed version, that is, the crystals.
The prices are crashing because an all-purpose mat is becoming a solo (less needed?) purpose material (eg. people wont need ornaments for everything, they just need the ornament crystal), so there's less interest in buying said material.

I don't think I was clear enough, but its late I'm tired and I'm hitting the bed

what are the sealed versions going to be used for?

>>171912753

putting on the market you donkey

>>171912753
Everything except crafting and transmuting.

>>171912806
so why are people freaking out over ornaments? won't the prices stay the same unless they make dungeons drop a billion more ornaments?

>>171912753
Selling for people needing the unsealed mats (people sell sealed naryu tablets you know?) and crafting.

>>171912836

I have no clue.

>>171912819
Fuck, I misread sealed as bound.

Sealed is for crafting and transmuting

>>171912663
Why is NCSOFT retarded?

Didn't they also mention you need 8 of the new ornament material to transmute into a premium stone? Won't that also eat up a hefty amount of ornaments?

>>171912663
same anon here, quick coming back to say that I might have get the colors wrong, I'm not even sure if the colors of the orbs are correct, but that's the whole general idea.
please dont base arguments on the colors i posted, i could be wrong, the only thing i'm sure is that is white and blue orbs

>>171887754
this alien is old and busted
we need more stuff of the new hotness

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>>171913265

>>171887754
>those perfect massive tits
Can you post more of those breasts please?

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>>171876957
sounds good
will I be able to upgrade my weapon to 50 right away?
also any word on whether this will be a cash item?

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>>171913873

>>171914013
NCoin only. No word on any of them being given out for free.

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Ebon/Foundry 6 - 45k HP Maku Edition

NA # 249 661

Could really use a Stealth or FM for Ebondrake, or Maku's going to be a tiny lyn shaped blood splatter on the floor.

>>171914405
If I joined it would still be 4/6
maybe next time

>>171914480
that doesn't even make sense

>>171914497
they're implying they're useless

>>171914576
No I'm saying one of them would leave the lobby

>>171914497
It does. Sorry >>171914480 :(

>>171914405
vixen and sp my new otp

>>171914405
5/6 departing in 5m

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>>171914405
Gon(e)

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>>171912906
Regardless of how NC East fucks up, they'll never hold a candle to NC West's fuckuppery

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>>171914058
GAS THE RAT
NEW JINF LEWDS WHEN

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Birthday

>>171918046
my black blood brother from the ninja clan

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i am bored

>>171918709
cute cats
who are you?

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>>171918709
me in the middle

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>>171918749
i just told you
i am bored

>>171918709
>>171919567

Hi Kizuna! You're cute!

>attention whoring general

>>171920042

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>>171875869
Wow anon, that hornless picture was probably the first picture I ever posted.
That's some impressive digging skills.

>>171920042
>Hey man what happened to all the avatarfags? I miss them. Now it's just gay lyn posting
>Complain when avatarfags show up
Gay lynboi detected.

>>171921585
Well fuck you Frl for making me read what that picture said.

>>171921973
>implying gay lyn posting isn't also attention whoring

I like attention whores and avatarfags and all of you weirdos which post here on a daily basis, keep doing you senpai I'm just out here

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>>171922027
Glad I could help.

ejdj

>>171888007
>>free costume+free blue pet+AP red blue and yellow hexas from completing the story
>>free costume is only for 3 weeks after patch - pet and gems are 4ever
Do we have some pics or a name for this costume?

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It's this one I believe

they cycled through them too fast for me to ss all the races but each one looks different

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>time to make new character
>try all my usual names
>all taken
>start brainstorming for new names
>4 hours later and literally 100 names tried
>all taken
>maybe character creation server is borked
>smash head on keyboard and accept
>it goes through
Hope you all had a great evening, I did not and now I'll delete my jumble of letters and come back tomorrow for another try at this.

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>>171924076
>>171924217

>>171912663
>Their reasoning with this change, is that now they can give more "upgrade mats" without worrying about crashing the market, because they'll be giving the unsealed version, that is, the crystals.
I can't believe they have a team of people who looked at this fucking suggestion and said "yeah, that's how it's gonna work, good job Econony Man, let's patch this shit right up".

Surely decreasing the demand of something could never bring its price down. No, the only way that could possibly happen was if we increased supply!

Not that I care. I didn't invest. It just makes me die ever so slightly inside knowing that people this fucking stupid are in charge of this game. Although, that's not exactly surprising anymore.

>>171924424
The game has been changing in a rapid way due to korea going free-to-play.

They're going to dumb down every accessory and weapon upgrade requirement more and more as the months come.

My advice is: if you give a shit about being properly geared in this game, be prepared to shell out $5,000 to become the best for 2 months as everyone else proceeds to get the same stuff for nearly no cost 2 months later. But don't feel salty about it later.

Remember when it took months to save up enough materials for a legendary weapon? That wasn't even that long ago. With the new change it will be practically free.

>>171924565
I've been playing less and less lately so I don't see myself caring anymore. When it really does get like that I'm out.

But I wasn't exactly complaining about the changes. I was just saying that you have to be an actual, literal retard to not understand that a market doesn't depend on just supply.

>>171924634
It gets even better when you realize ncsoft is pushing out these changes because they want to cater to the new players that join the game.

They want people to catch up as fast as possible so they may start swiping as well. The problem is that all of those remedies are useless there are no new players. They should be focusing on content and not dumb changes that fuck over the economy for older players.

>>171924750
I've realized that long ago and it has been my main problem with the game for a long while now. The other, more recent, problem that I have with the game is that, in a much related fashion, any difficulty the game may once have had has gone down the drain after Foundry and the Souls were introduced, and even more so after BT came out.

Any content we have, including BT itself, is going to be an utter and complete joke when the skill patch comes out. We'll be walking around with over 1000 AP and skills aimed for content much harder than what we have. Not to mention they're also getting rid of 4mans in an equally retarded move. Get ready for Tomb Lord to die before the first ball phase. No mechanics ever.

The new dungeon is going to be a fucking joke, and yet these few vocal newbies they're sucking up to will still whine it's 2hard4them and their 700 AP.

>>171924424
No, they mean that they can give out materials more generously from event like the one we are having right now, without crashing the market.
You probably know what happen during the valentine's event, when sealed forging orb was part of the random reward. The market price of it went from 1500g to 900g during that event because of the increased supply.
Without this problem, NC can give out event reward more generously. Have you seem people complaining about the current upgrade event being total garbage? NC is trying to fix that without impacting the market.

>>171924217
>>171924321
Do you happen to have that version for yun?

>>171925920
>No, they mean that they can give out materials more generously from event like the one we are having right now, without crashing the market.
Are you just as stupid as them?

Like I don't mean to sound too insulting here but how can you not see the problem here?

See, you need item A to upgrade your weapon. Item A is hard to get, and thus worth quite a bit of money. You have a choice of either farming directly to get item A or to farm something else to get item A. For example, many people choose the latter in choosing to farm Naksun in order to buy ornaments.

Now, they make item A more easily available, except it's not tradeable. What does this do? People are going to be seeing item A drop a lot more and thus _do not have to buy it as often_.

If no one wants to buy item A off the market, the prices will go down because there are more people selling them than buying them. Whether or not these new drops are tradeable doesn't matter. It'll still increase the overall supply and inevitably decrease the prices.

It baffles me that people working for a big multinational company can't grasp the very basics of free market.

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>>171926014
I'm sorry friend but they were shotgunning these outfits so fast I couldn't alt tab out of the DC I was doing fast enough

>>171926310
>MUH ECONOMY 101 CLASS
the post

>>171927683
shit's not even 101
just 1

>>171927683
>>171927749
How can you miss the point this bad?

I'm not trying to appear smart here. That's the entire point: this is something everyone, including the fucking retards at NCsoft making these idiotic changes, should know.

>>171927801
Casuals do not play the game with virtual economic growth, or upgrade efficiency in mind. They sell everything they get just to have spare gold. The new change prevents that.

You are missing one important point: The game is not being played by economists.

>>171928064
It doesn't prevent it, though, unless I missed something by only reading the summaries. Tradeable ornaments and the like still drop. You just get non-tradeable ones on the side.

Not saying people carefully think over whatever they do in the game and plan ahead for the market changes. Quite the opposite, really. They get ornaments and if they don't need them they sell them. This change makes them get more of them and thus sell more of them.

I wonder if any build prefers the new weapons over raven...

>>171930646
Destroyers do or so I have heard

>>171930646
No build does, raven's buffs are way too strong.
You literally only go non-raid if you can't do it ever.

And with recent BT's nerfs, its still better to just stay at baleful 10 and wait for it, so you can pug it when the nerfs hit.

>>171932203
It's really fucking pathetic how fast they nerfed BT. It shouldn't receive nerfs of any kind until we get next 24p raid.

>>171932527
>It shouldn't receive nerfs of any kind until we get next 24p raid.
The game will be dead before that happens.

The 10% or so super dedicated folks can't keep the game afloat all by themselves. The vast majority of players is casuals, so you pander to them if you want to keep the income steady.

Literally no reason to tryhard or nolife it up here since within a few months later everyone else gets the same for free. You'd think people understand this by now but apparently not.

>>171932527
BT nerfs are only on servers that already have Vortex Temple, the next 24p raid. And they had VT for quite some time now.

Jon confirmed we're not getting VT (and the BT nerfs) any soon. Expect the BT nerfs to come here only after VT.

>>171932830
casuals dont even need raven for their casual dungeon grinding anyway

>>171933284
He point isn't about casuals need, but what casuals want.

Ded
quick post rare luu s

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>>171934546

>>171934742
Post lewds now.

>>171934742
gon lover

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Premium Silverfrost Transformation Stone cost atm:
>4sts + 25ms + 100ss + 20 stingers + 50g
>~30% chance to craft

going for the prices right now @NA F5 and without the fail chance
(4.8*4) + (0.73*25) + (0.07*100) + (0.184*20) + 50
>19.4 + 18.25 + 7 + 3.68 + 50 = 98.33g

After patch
>4 sts + 8ms + 30ss + 30 blue orb (stingers) + 8 white orb (ornaments) + 15g
>chance to craft increased

(4.8*4) + (0.73*8) + (0.07*30) + (0.184*30) + (6.7*8) + 15
>19.4 + 5.84 + 2.1 + 5.52 + 53.6 + 15 = 101.46g

all mats after patch are the tradeable ones

Anyone awake in NA to do DC?

>>171936638

No, come back in 6 hours