/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

Anime > 3D women

Second for AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Where's googum? I wanna bully him.

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How hard is it to get players to connect to each other in an Android app with pic related?

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So today I made the basic AI for the enemies. I also added zones where movement outside camera is disabled and added enemy spawners for them.

What did YOU do with your game today /agdg/?

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Map editor progress

>>171853397
is your sprite meant to be from metal slug

>>171853397
How will you control your enemy mobs?
For example if you put 10 of them on the stage, do they all attack at the same time or do you give them turns?

first (last) for the only reason I gamedev is because I'm unemployable and there's no other way of making money

>>171853681
Yes, the main character is marco rossi from MS, the rest of the sprites are from double dragon.

>>171853698
There will be waves that can either trigger when a set of enemies are killed or all of them are wiped out.

>>171853459
>units are bigger than tanks

>>171853397
I don't know what it is but there's something oddly satisfying about the way you shoot and kill enemies. I think it might be the speed

>>171853831
They deployed their giants.

>>171853397
modified the basic enemy actor to chain different shooting types
but now that I'm talking about it, I realise it's going to be useless for canon fodder enemies.
I need to fix the spawner for it though.

>>171853831
>he never played advance wars

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>>171851305

>>171853889
Yeah I realized that too, it's probably the combination of satisfactory sprites from both games I'm ripping off.

Metal Slug has good bullet effects, with fast bullets and a satisfying explosion animation.

Double dragon has those enemy reactions opposed to the flashing yellow on ms.

>>171854073
First add the basic movements and collisions, those are the most basic core mechanics you can make.

Also, don't obsess over making every piece of code you write perfectly OOP. In fact, you should write very simple scripts at the beginning and when you're implementing new features. Just don't forget to NOT leave them like that and actually convert them to a properly written code after you make sure it works properly.

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>>171853831
it's not that odd, at least for place holders.
For my stuff the 32x32 cannon here is a boss character, but everything else will be the same size.

>>171854298
>Also, don't obsess over making every piece of code you write perfectly OOP.
Don't make any piece of code you write OOP.

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>>171853941
>>171851305

ok those blinking doe eyes don't really work

>>171849521
>>171848312
>>171849665

bump help

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Big ass uppdate coming through:
https://renoki.itch.io/blade-of-blood
game is still shit, though

>>171854298
movement and collisions are already in, that's one of the few things that I already coded

Where can I learn how to into shaders?

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Post handsome devs.

>>171855754
>how to into
in english please

>>171855754
catlikecoding if you're into unity

also depends on whether you want to write actual lighting shaders or just mess with postprocessing

>>171854549
Ignore this guy

>>171855896
Ignore this guy.

>>171855934
>>171855896
Listen to these goys.

>>171855872
I want to learn GLSL and understand what I'm actually doing.

>>171855849
>>>/r/eddit

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if you get too hungry, fret not, i added sandwiches!

>>171855934
>>171855896
ignore this guy

>>171855994
GLSL is similar to C, just without pointers. If you're doing it yourself with OpenGL it's pretty straightforward. Shaders are basically just procedures that do input and output with attributes. Vertex shader inputs are determined by your vertex attributes you set in OpenGL, and fragment shader outputs are determined by the attachments you set in OpenGL. Everything in between is passed between shaders.

>>171855994
Unity shader code uses basically glsl. The only difference is that most of the time, boilerplate is hidden away in unity specific macros that you can look up in another file.

That said, the link I gave you starts with nothing an walks through the entire shading process, explaining all the boilerplate.

>>171856143
yes... but how do I write shaders to do the things I want, where do I learn that?

>>171856192
Unity is Cg with a custom

>>171856213
It's just programming and linear algebra. Writing shaders themselves is easy, it's learning how to e.g. approximate the physics of light to varying degrees that's tough.

>>171856001
Very cute. What's the penalty for being too hungry?

>>171856325
Say I wanted to apply a texture over another texture in a decal fashion how would I do that?

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>>171855994
>Using a japanese phrase specifically associated with japanese imageboards on an american located japanese animation imageboard owned by a japanese man is reddit
your newfag is showing

>>171856327
If you've ever played games like Harvest Moon or Rune Factory, there's a meter for energy or "rest" that dictates how much stuff you can do before needing to sleep for the night. Your energy will deplete faster and you won't be able to regenerate health if you're starving.

>>171856502
>retarded newfag who doesn't know a centuries-old meme trying to defend himself by calling other newfags

typical reddit behaviour

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Welcome to Pepe's Park

im part of 4chan nation, whats your identity?

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>>171856502
>>>/r/eddit
not even him btw so get kek'd
Also
>he does 3d games

>>171856432
With deferred rendering, decals are trivial. They work in the same way as lights. With forward rendering, the difficulties in implementing decals have nothing to do with shading and rather how you generate the decal geometry.

>>171857105
>and rather how you generate the decal geometry.
Could explain this point a little further for me?

>>171857210
It's well-documented in many places on the internet.

With forward rendering you can also project decals similarly to deferred rendering (in the sense that they act similarly to lights) but it's inefficient (just like having many lights in a forward rendering scenario) unless you are doing tiled/clustered forward rendering.

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Made some collectibles, but my primary concern was bug fixing (the hanging bug surfaced again, should be fixed now, hopefully). Also tweaked camera to allow the up/down movement.

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>>171855395
Make the game a LOT faster. Faster movement, attacking, jumping etc.

The melee is so slow that it almost feels like a chore when I hit an enemy.

The crouching takes a lot of time compared to the amount of small enemies there are.

Also, the game crashed at this point when I killed a bat with a spell.

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Now you can open the minimap. Should I add some other juice?

>>171857705
Nice minimixels.

>>171857434
What a gorgeous looking game.

Wouldbuy/10

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>>171856681
>site:2ch.net "日本語でOK"
>458,000 results
>site:reddit.com "in english please"
>10,600 results
gee willy mister you suure showed me

>>171857705
that's damn juicy, just like rest of your game. keep it up man.

>>171857910
>woah they type in japanese on a japanese website

just fucking go back to redd!t

>>171857910
>weeb things this somehow makes what he did appropriate
maybe not newfag but you sure have autism

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taking new sprite requests

How do I into aggydaggy when I am an 8-5 wageslave?

>>171858367
Bowl of fruit.

>>171858692
how big?

>>171857910
back to >>>tr/a/sh

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>>171858525
>katawa shoujo is a visual novel2 made by 4chan

>>171858770
64 x 32px, palette unlimited.

>>171858842
ok

>>171858617
be a 6-12 dev?

>>171858890
>someone is THIS mad
Fuck off back to >>>/r/eddit already

>>171858890
>mad
as if

>redd!t, redd1t, r3dd1t, plebbit, go back, go back, no YOURE the newfag, go back, REEE

Stay on topic you godamn fucks

>tfw taking weeks just to write like 10 lines of boring code.
>its not even good code, its the most hacky and unmaintainable code i've ever written
>I know it will come back to bite me in the ass

I just want to be done with entities communication :(

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>>171859020
>he makes le multiple reply post xd
Typical 3d nodev

Video shame:
>>171859020

>>171858957
But that's my time to do errands and relax with some vidya.

I'll just dev at work and blame someone else for the reduced productivity. What could possibly go wrong?

>>171859093
GO BACK TO REBBIT ALREADY

>>171859135
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

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>>171859020

>>171859158
>relax with some vidya
not gonna make it

>>171859158
>I'll just dev at work and blame someone else for the reduced productivity. What could possibly go wrong?

the company owns anything you make while on company time

>>171859192
>he replies to shitposts
back to >>>/r/nodevs

http://www.strawpoll.me/12592220
http://www.strawpoll.me/12592220
http://www.strawpoll.me/12592220

>>171859504
2ch.net?

>>171859504
Remember to report and hide these posts

>>171859739
>>>/r/ule7
dear nodev.

is anyone in here even a dev?

>>171859971
A lot of people are making 3d games so yeah, mostly nodevs.

>>171859971
really tickles the forebrain

>>171859971
My name is Dev

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>>171855395
-Standing combo is much more responsive than before and feels pretty nice!
-Crouching attack still feels sluggish and ineffective (a 2 part combo for crouching might be good).
-Jumping attacks have led to killing a bat and it's body still flies forward (dead) and deals damage to me on contact before it falls to the ground.

Pic related I killed the first tentacle/vine monster and then I jumped and hit the attack button just as I landed on it's corpse. This led to me being frozen in place in that animation frame while everything else (torches and background bats) were still moving around/animated.

so sensitive

>>171855395
>>171860289

should really include gifs on itch.io if you want downloads

who?

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This week I finally had some time to dev again and I used it wisely. I completely changed the way the movement system works. Instead relying on a single booster part(like in AC), the arms, legs, and backpack have their own thrusters. Legs are generally for forward/backward movement, arms are for dodging and right/left movement and the backpack is for boosting(kinda sprinting), adds a bit forward speed and decides how many back-weapons the player can equip. Also I changed the way boosting works. Going into boost mode(double w) now has an activation cost but for the first few moments the mech goes super sanic before slowing down to a more reasonable speed. It's a bit clunky now but the end game is to allow the player to chain together dodges and going in/out of boost mode to do some crazy fast maneuvers.

>>171855395
It's eh. The controls are slow, the crounching enemies are a pain in the ass, because using the crouch attack is a pain in the ass. Using the super moves isnt an intuitive process.

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>>171858692
>>171858842
hope you like it

>>171859386
rip chanterelle girl

>>171861304
looks like bell peppers and purple mashed potatoes

Designing 3D levels is suffering.

>>171861826
fruit is alright, but you have to eat your vegetables too

>>171857705
Make the map itself a bit more transparent and give it a slowly pulsing subtle glow effect

Chad here

I want to gamedev but women won't leave me alone

What it do?

>>171861907
I bet you have a screensaver on an led screen too

>>171861304
I don't :)

>>171856868
>4chan
>identity

>>171862406
Don't think it be like it is.

>>171858367
guy on crutches, 32x64

>>171855395
Did you fix the pacing? Everything in the game was so slow last time, and it wasn't the FPS, the movement and animations took forever.

>>171862463
I'm sorry

>>171861304
you're supposed to be a pixel artist and you can't even upscale your final piece so people can actually see it? damn

>>171858367
bro lets collab together on a game

>>171861074
pretty cool man
>>171861304
i'm not the OR but looks good

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>>171861304
Neato, thanks anon. Gotta watch out on the perspective of the bowl. The sharp flat edge at the bottom doesn't work.

>>171862414
What are you even talking about

>>171862996
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Screensavers
levels are in the same position

>>171861074
Teach me your 3d modeling and programming ways

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>>171862897
what exactly does someone like you even need me for?

>>171861074
>It's a bit clunky now but the end game is to allow the player to chain together dodges and going in/out of boost mode to do some crazy fast maneuvers.

Keep it up, can't wait to see it developed further

>>171860289

I'm not the biggest fan of this type of texture/shading for a castlevania/megaman-style (?) game

>>171863060
Not following you

>>171863093
Robots are simple to model and animate, they're just boxes. Designing them is the hard part, because you have to make them look like they're not just boxes put together.

>>171863381
Exactly part I am stuck on

How did you design the robot in your game? It would be greatly appreciated

>>171863107
Considering a bowl of fruit is such a common subject of art studies and pretty much useless for videogames, he probably just gave you a practice assignment.

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Please give me some advice on optimizing a small Unity app for mobile. There is a several second lag when changing scenes that I can't seem to cut down.

>inb4 >unity >optimized

Yes I'm aware but I was not in control of the decision. Nevertheless it's a small app and shouldn't be chugging like this. I think I'm just doing something especially stupid.

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>>171863381
Nier Automata did this.

The robots in that game are basically a capsule shape with the end cut off.

By adding some eyes and arms, paint them in a few different colours and sizes, and the lazy nips were done. Barely any animations compared to other AAA titles.

>>171863632
show videos and code

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>>171863536
>>171862897
I see
thanks for having me then

>>171863232
Both are now-defunct inventions originally caused by hardware limitations, and both are still used commonly for reasons entirely unrelated to hardware.

>>171863532
I'm not the webm's OP. Kinda stuck on that one too to be honest.
I think part of it is blending human anatomy and mechanical parts/aerodynamics.
Stance is also important, robots should look powerful, just standing on its own.

>>171863771
I don't think it's inherently bad, there's charm in simplicity, and if it fits the lore/theme/aesthetic of the game, why not.

>>171863771
you forgot the part where that game also has hot as all fuck android chicks

>>171863781
I can't for nebulous legal reasons. I was just wondering if there were any broad guidelines for this kind of thing.

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>>171863841
>I don't think it's inherently bad, there's charm in simplicity, and if it fits the lore/theme/aesthetic of the game, why not.

Nothing against it, the entire game is ripe with ingenious solutions to make the game cheaper.

>>171864003
Which are all copied of the main character(s) model. Once again, saving time thus money.

>>171863818
Level designing in 3D is a defunct invention caused by hardware limitations? wat

>>171862661
do you have something in mind?

What are the hardest genres to make

RTS and RPGs?

>>171864343
don't take pseudo intellectual crackheads seriously

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>>171863532
Not the guy you're replying to, but look at other robots first, would be something i'd do if i had no knowledge of how to make a robot.

What do you want your robot to do? Be a big, clunky war machine like in Mechwarrior? Build it strong and sturdy, try to go for realism, study tank armor, ammunition delivery systems, multiple rocket launchers. Function > form, don't go for fancy armor and whatnot, remember that it's a workhorse - look at scifi devices that do shit done, like those big-arms exoskeletonss from Alien.

Want a gotta-go-fast japanese robot game? Form>Function. Don't worry about something being unrealistic. Go for hybrids, try to imagine how a metallic human would look like mixed with an F-22. Go all sleek and spiky, wacky colorss and whatnot.

Want a human sized robot?What do you want it for? Is it a worker? Make it look like human but think how would you enhance your own body to do a specific job better(like lifting, welding, specialized work). Is it a battle android? Look at riot police, remove humanity, go from there. Try exchangeable weapons, lack of head. Same robot, but made from spare partss in post-apoc? Improvise, that's what the creator would do. Make a rough design, then throw away everything that's not easily obtainable in a wasteland, try to replace it with cheap stuff.

So what do you want to build, anon?

>>171864348
I am open to all game ideas and game engines

I really like MOBA the most

rpgs adventure games puzzle games platformers open world games fighting games

>>171864343
I think he's being autistic about the word "level" and saying that your game world can be completely seamless and not broken into separate levels, even though everybody knows "level design" is mostly just an anachronism that's changed its meaning.

>>171864537
I can only do sprites though and I'm not even that good.
If you want to do something I will try my best to help you though.

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HAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHA

>>171865565
this is not discord screencap general
where is your game

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Capital ship turrets can shoot now, though it can get a little weird in high latency. Overall the feature is implemented, but I have to fix a ton of bugs and polish issues with it before I can move on to the next cool thing (game modes/objectives).

Multiplayer was a mistake.

>>171865565
about what I expected

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I have an idea (and some shitty first steps implemented, webm related) for a game based on cellular automata... You'd start in a "game-of-life"-style primordial soup with some baddies, and no "attack". Your weapons would be manipulating the rules which drive growth/death of the environment (I plan to make it possible to target specific areas) so it can eliminate the baddies. Some blobs would be neutral and slow down the player/baddies, and some blobs would cause damage... Maybe some would damage you upon exploding, or could generate harmful "glider" blobs, or launch you away. Does it sound like a fun concept?

>>171865868
in D:\games\

>>171865873
Thank God it's you!

>>171865873
What do you use to keep track of bugs?

>>171866173
Trello right now. I would use my github issue tracker but that's a private github and I like being able to share the Trello with a few non-code collaborators without adding them to the github.

If I could make something like a personal JIRA for myself that would be a lot better, but Trello is free.

Been messing about with RPG Maker and discovered it's easier to make my game in it than in Unity, and it's not even an RPG

whatever wurks

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some kinda progress,
webmcam is shit

>>171866625
there are plenty of non-rpg games made in rpg maker

>>171866682
OBS / Shadowplay + WebM for retards

>>171866031
I'm having trouble picturing an actual concrete idea of the gameplay. But I can see a few ideas for elements that you could use.
You'd have to make it only bacterias (since that's most likely how life started).
Make both the "good bacteria" and "bad bacteria" have specificities like the area they grow on, or how their cell walls react to enzymes.
Then add some transmission element for those specificities, and some mutations so that the game doesn't end up being stale.

Then again, maybe I'm too autistic about accuracy.

>>171866031
This sounds like a cool concept but in practice is incredibly difficult to get right, because what makes cellular automata interesting is that they are so unpredictable, and even a single rule change will change everything. It's better in a toylike context where you can just watch what happens with no pressure. Not saying don't do it, just that there are some design challenges to solve.

Check out these for examples:
https://data.runhello.com/f/swim6/ Note how frustrating it is to try to predict what will kill you and what won't.
https://lorenschmidt.itch.io/luminous-corridor-2 Loren uses CA in her games, check out her twitter.

>>171866829
is there a way to run shadowplay without experience?
I'm not making a fucking account for a graphics card company

>>171866717
Like what?

>>171866289
>Trello is free
Have you looked into bugzilla or mantis? Introversion used mantis for Prison Architect and it seems to do a pretty good job.

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how do i improve

>>171867258
Cellular automata are a thing. Anon is not talking about simulating cells.

>>171867306
puzzle eroge

>>171867285
If you don't want to deal with nvidia, just use OBS. Some folks prefer shadowplay, but I've had no issues with OBS so far.

>>171867376
I recommend Loomis or any other method of learning the fundamentals of art.

>>171867376
Every sprite from every A+ game had full scale concept art before the sprites were created

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What the FUCK

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>>171867376
You need Loomis you nigger.

>>171867845
>bokudev is a massive faggot
More news at 11.

>>171867845
DELET THIS!!!

>>171867530
you're talking about the book creative illustration by andrew loomis right?

>>171867845
>left handed mouse
shit I'm left handed and I don't do that

>>171867985
>DELET THIS!!!
One of the worst memes of the century.

did AGDG make risk of rain?
>>171866031
sounds like a worse version of flow

>>171867427
Well, I feel retarded now. The Uni's getting to my head.
Regardless, a game about bacterial cultures and semi-randomised mutations would be interesting.

>>171868049
>not going lefty when going fappy

>>171868080
I agree as the person who posted it
But it's still not as bad as what engine do you use

>>171867914
he he read the sticky lmao xD

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When is there going to be another agdg gamejam? Or do you know any upcoming jams?

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>>171867362
I think those are both paid services, right? Github issue tracker and Trello are both free. Trello works fine for what's basically a one-dev project but I wish you could nest cards. I like grouping tasks/bugs by milestone (first playable, public playtest) or major feature (capital ships, game objectives) which you can't easily do.

Pic related is how my thing looks right now.

>>171868098
>did agdg make...
No. However the dev has frequented the general at some point. This is true for all these games: http://homph.com/steam/

>>171866625
I'm actually making an RPG in Fighter Maker

>>171868146
Such a game would in fact be easier to design than anon's game

>>171868381
Mantis is GPLv2 and Bugzilla is MPL. They are both open source and gratis.

How do I go about making the areas in my game with calling them "adjective noun" or "direction noun" I.e. the Westwoods, the Shrouded Fields, etc.

>>171868015
Successful Drawing.

>>171868381
You could make a separate category for the major feature, and then have the feature also have a card that just says something like "Empty everything in corresponding category and finish implementing this"

>>171868728
Right, but is there free hosting for them anywhere? If I have something that works well enough I'm better off spending the time working on the game itself than worrying about hosting solutions for the issue tracker.

>>171867258
Nice ideas, I didn't really think about a proper story/theme, only gameplay. Mutations will definitely be in the game, in fact your main actions will be to make blobs mutate (for now I just have different very broad "modes"). I feel like there's enough potential to make a bunch of levels with new mechanics revealed one by one.

>>171867271
Thanks a lot for the links!! I don't really want to tap into the "interesting" part of cellular automata from a scientific standpoint actually, I'm not using Conway's rules or any of the "popular" ones that I know of... I just want to have unscripted blobs that feel very "organic" yet not random. I think accounting for TWO layers of neighbouring cells (like in the webm) creates neat, less chaotic and more balanced behaviours when you find some sweet spots for the values dictating birth/death. A slower time step might also help, although it might be tricky to make it feel smooth enough not to be irritating.

>>171868830
You could host it on your dev computer if you are 1MAing it anyway

>>171863632
good pic

Try using the Profiler, see if its an I/O thing, or maybe you're waiting on a network connection, etc

>>171868828
That's sort of what I do. I group tasks under the "milestone" cards with the blue labels and sort of pseudo-nest them. I could make different lists too but then the board gets very wide. All of this is pretty minor as long as the job gets done.

>>171868957
True.

>>171868883
I think you can run rules in realtime rather than turnbased, if you use float values for dead/alive/growing.

>>171868582
I don't have a clue as to how cellular automatas work, so I can't tell.
Quite honestly the biggest problem would be balancing, you could really drive yourself into a corner with my idea. But then I could just say "it's rogue-like elements !".
I might try making a small, prototype without any randomisation this weekend, the idea's pretty clear in my mind.

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>>171869635
just like make game

>>171869635
2d trap

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Behold, the gameplay levels are off the charts !
Now that spawning mechanics are done, I should be making progress faster. Assuming I have time to work in the first place.
I wish my progress looked more impressive.

>>171869635
guy with a sword

>>171868787
Make the places in the game seem like they were named by the people in the game, don't show the name in a cutscene the first time you enter it all final-fantasy-esque, instead have characters call certain places different things -but similar enough for the player to know- (e.g. the forest out west, the forest over by the post office [which you happen to know is west], the forest with unusually large mushrooms [giant mushrooms are pretty fucking obvious])

Make names that express the meaning you want the name to have using foreign languages/mythology etc.

Don't name locations.

Have all of your locations with this naming problem instead be "The area surrounding X landmark" so a name could be "The eiffel tower" which would be the eiffel tower and or the area surrounding it.

thats all I can think of off the top of my head

>>171870085
At first I thought he was gonna hip-thrust to attack.

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>>171863093
>>171863532
My mechs used to be god awful pieces of high-poly shit(pic related), I just kept redesigning them over and over again, trying to fix problems I had with previous versions. After a year of trial and error I arrived at the current design. Some important things I learned:
1. Think about mobility/flexibility
Think about what your mechs should be able to do, how are they supposed to stand, move and attack?
Generally for mechanical design: the more agile a mech is the more joints it will need, you have to design around that.
2. First design the skeleton
It's way easier to design a basic skeleton(rig+general shape+animations) and then just slap different types of armor on it. Prototyping mechs becomes super easy and fast this way.
3. Double joints
I just recently figured this one out: double joints are awesome. they allow a boxy mech to bend its limbs like a human without any clipping.

>>171868787
Use interesting combinations of adjective noun. Do you live in the Real World? That's how places are named.

>>171870221
Good idea, I'll make an animation to test how it works later.

>>171870229
Thanks for the info

any good Blender tutorials you recommend to model them?

>>171869635
some generic overworld sprites, like trees flowers rock walls, for a topdown game

>>171870085
It is a great start, anon!

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Reminder to add cooking to your game for extra comfiness!

How would one go about making a card game? As in, how would a system for making cards look like, so one can make a card that does something and has specific abilities, would one have to code each card separately?

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>>171870493
You just need to know basic stuff, the other Anon is right, it's literally just boxes. The moment you got the base skeleton down you can just shit out prototype after prototype and slowly develop your own style.

Pic related,previous version of my player skeleton. It looks like shit and is literally just a bunch of cubes and cylinders but it gets the job done.

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>>171870950
>This is a 2017 AAA release

>>171870765
>start
I wish it was just the start, I've been at it for two months I think.
But at least the way projectiles come into the screen is somewhat optimised, and everything is modular.

>>171870960
>would one have to code each card separately?
Obviously not. You'd do a parent card type and then specific child classes where you tweak some values.
Unless you want every card to be completely unique.

>>171870172
>>171870473
Thanks

ive been deving a tactics game

guess which one and how far along in progress i am

>>171871237
If all you're doing is tweaking values then you need exactly one class.

>>171871237
>Unless you want every card to be completely unique.
I understand that i'd base all cards off of a "base", that'd have mana cost and health, type, whatever. What i mean is actually two things.

How would one add generic abilities to a card, like trample, first strike etc?
How would one add a specific effect to a card? Like "When this card enters graveyard, return it to the owner's hand". I assume it'd have to be hard coded?

>>171871740
If you have non-unique effects, code them generically. Like "add X cards from your graveyard to your hand" and "shuffle your library" etc. The more granular you work, the more freedom you have to mix'n'match these effects for new cards.

>>171871740
The way I would do it is I would code a series of behaviors (target other card and do damage, remove other card from game, add a given resource to the player, etc.) and then combine these behaviors on a given card. When the card activates it would run down the list of behaviors, fill in parameters (like who to target for the damage effect), and execute that behavior.

It gets harder if you start dealing with interrupt abilities like in Magic.

>>171871734
But you most likely won't, having only one variant of a base card would be boring as a videogame.

>>171871740
>How would one add generic abilities to a card, like trample, first strike etc?
functions
>How would one add a specific effect to a card? Like "When this card enters graveyard, return it to the owner's hand". I assume it'd have to be hard coded?
functions again

>>171872068
Okay, then if you have 10 unique card archetypes and the rest are just tweaks, you need 10 classes. You don't make a subclass just to change some values. That's what a constructor is for.

>>171872010
>code them generically.
I know this is a bother, but do you have an example? I don't have much experience with code, so i can't visualise how this would work, would it pull those functions form a database, so to speak?

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>>171862305
I'm going to add screen blur later, so I might add it as well.
>subtle

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When will we purge degenerate devs from agdg?

>>171871237
Sometimes the start of great things is long and drawn out. I am sure you will find your pace once you have all of the basic stuff in place! Shmups are love and life!

>>171872235
But we already have the discord?

>>171872235
When you make a game. Get it?

>>171866130
+(You)

>>171872235
>has a gamedev studio with no finished game yet

How did he do this? Did the Bokube kickstarter happen? Or is the market for boy pussy better than I thought?

>>171872235
he'd probably listen to people telling him to get out about as well as he has any feedback on his game

which is to say, not very well at all

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>>171868256
Thanks, anon.

>>171872047
>>171872047
Thanks for the input, so basically say void GiveManaToPlayer{ player.AddMana(5);} and then call it into the stack if that card is activated?

is it better to have a shadow and no visible body or no shadow and no visible body in a first person game?

>>171872235
>he didnt get enough (you)s the first time he posted it

>>171872140
You could use a database of effects, yeah. I suggest reading up on lambdas / anonymous functions.

So making a mobile game and putting it on a store is not free and it's possible to lose money if it doesn't sell? I'm not aware of how the mobile stores work

>>171867845
well this is different
it kind of makes sense though

>>171872648
>I'm not aware of how the mobile stores work
Your game will only see the light of the top 50 list if you invest 10s of thousands dollarodinos into bribing your way there.

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does anyone remember Painter's Guild?

>>171872828
Affirmative.
Next question.

>>171872135
Of course, I don't mean to disagree on that.

>>171872264
It's not really that my progress is slow (well it is though), but more that I don't have time to work these days. Which irks me.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm guessing you're the moth shmup guy ?

>>171872828
I don't. I only remember Eastward Quest.

>>171872921

What ever happened to it?

>>171873062
It was finished and released.

>>171872927
I am

>>171872791
But that didn't really answer my question if it's free to put software on stores, I don't want it to get shilled via ads

>>171873062
Have you tried google.com?

>>171872470
>Bokudev sold his body to get a gamedev studio

Wow and he always says hes NOT gay.

>>171872619
thanks, i'll educate myself

>>171856001
>tfw this guy's game is going to make it and you are here in your underwear looking at /agdg/ posts

>>171873146
I knew it, those words seemed familiar.
Your game's rad dude, keep at it.

>>171873156
>if it's free to put software on stores
How did googling the respective stores and their policies not answer your question? Do you expect people here to have anything better than first-hand information?

>>171873454
Thank you for the kind words! I am really looking forward to seeing where you take your project!

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how many years of dev would this take me?

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Worked on this to learn a thing or two about fresnels and ik rigs.

My current skill level on those things are good enough for me to proceed with my game so I needed to pick up a thing or two!

It was fun.

Character is Bippy of Tough Bippy from Wan Wan games.

>>171873938
At least 12

>>171873962
how big is his weener?

>>171873938
Literally 1 day

I'm going to assume you steal the assets though

>>171873938
>He doesn't know that 4 of these are put on greenlight EVERYDAY

>>171873938
If you're not already a skilled artist you might as well give up.

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>>171872470
>there are poorfags in /agdg/ right now

>>171874185
Literally find 4 of these put up today

Actually, I'll do you a favor

Find 2

I'll wait

>>171874185
There are a ton of garbage first person horror games but nothing that really resembles the classic survival horror games

3d too hard

>>171874564
All you would have to do is remake Resident Evil 1 or 2 with modern graphics same control and gameplay style with a few different mechanics and tweaks and people would be lining outside of your house to play your game

>dev for 25 mins
>quickly check 4chan
>end up browsing for 5 hours
>go to bed
>repeat every day
at this rate im never going to just like make game

>>171873962
is it just me or does high fresnel look like dogshit? thinking of this and he 3d game with a knight that gets posted here sometimes

>>171874686
There's a reason there's only been literally 1 3D game (that wasn't voxel cubes) in the history of 1MA development that has made any success

>>171874857
I'm sure there are games other than Banished that can claim that.

>>171874857
which game is that?

>>171873938
I don't know, 6 or 7?
Watch this
NODEV

>>171874978
Banished

>>171874750
I force tiny goals on myself as rewards.
Whether it be just implementing a basic function, or laying out the base for a new feature.

link loomis

How do I properly split up a character into states? How do I choose when something should be a state or not?

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>>171874813
what exactly is high fresnel?

>>171868256
you just missed the linux game jam by a few days

>>171875196
For starters different actions = different states

>>171858367
The guy who asked for the football spiking yesterday ->

If you are the same dude, nice work man. I asked for it as a lark, but it came out really great.

Do you do explosions? Could you do mixed-chemicals-gone-wrong-explosion along a 30x60? I can never seem to make it look right

>>171875190
>>>/ic/sticky

>>171875298
a high level of fresnel
presumably you can lerp between no fresnel and much fresnel

any time that i notice there is fresnel it looks crap, but there could be a subtle way to do it

>>171875196
>How do I choose when something should be a state or not?
Depends on either how you wont to animate or program it. Really the art will come first but its easier to take away states than it is to add. So just do all the basics and see what happens later.

Should I do actual concept art for my game or just as close to what i need to hammer out an idea before modeling?

I understand the need for it in a studio, but i have a hard time seeing the worth when it's just me doing everything. Part of me thinks its a good idea to do finalized concept art to seem "professional"

inb4
>Just like make game

>>171874750
>>171875183
if you have to force yourself to do it, why bother? you're not going to make money and you don't enjoy it. just do something else.

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>anon talks bad about your game
>he played through it multiple times for hours

>>171875196
Depends on the game.

A platformer may have states for idle, walking, running, jumping, falling, ladder, attack-right, etc etc etc etc

An RPG however would have states for like worldoverview, menu_normal, menu_spells, etc etc etc.

I break everything into states in my games, and then just have cases for the ones that actually impact my characters. Everything else just defaults to a default action.

>>171855395
Feels like there is no point in using anything but strong melee attack.
Needs some features to not just be a worse castelvania. Would be cool to make the blood pool more significant. Force player to make fast, brutal combos for blood gains to fuel even more combos. You won't even need a healthbar if you do it right.

>>171874857
wolfenstein 3d

>>171875568
So you know Anon's criticism is earnest. You should pay attention to them.
This is much better than someone who stops after 5 minutes and just says "meh".

>>171875561
>you're not going to make money and you don't enjoy it.
Just because i dont do it 24/7 doesnt mean i dont love it.
And i dont really have to think when doing art. But programming I do, and its most of my time so getting my mind off the TE for a bit helps.

>>171875515
if you can fully visualize your idea from multiple angles then you are ready to model it. so yeah, just make game. if you need concept art to model and make game then do it

>>171875803
Thanks, that's kind of how i felt, but i definately needed a second opinion. I was worried i was subconsciously just being lazy about it.

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why THE FUCK isn't he moving?

>>171876037
>not rendering the treadmill
Amateur.

>>171875568
I've only ever dropped one game, which was ass creed 2 in the first hour. 1 was a trudge that i finished so i knew i was wasting my time.

Other than that I like to see the complete game. Rocketbirds: Hardboiled Chicken is a great example.

Its essentially a god-awful newgrounds game with above average art that at the same time was as bad as the gameplay.

you can learn from the shit.

>>171876037
root motion?

>>171875568
some people enjoy shitty horror movies. that doesn't make them not shit

>>171876037
Sometimes when that happens to me, i have put the speed variable in the Y position of the code for the character's movement. Like...in the vector 3, i'll have pult (0,Speed,0) instead of (0,0,Speed)

>>171876037
you suck at modeling let me model you a proper 3d character

>>171876305
you suck at bullying let me post you a proper bully post

you are what shit would shit if shit could shit shit,

not let me take that back, you are the shit that the shit shat shitted

you are shitted shit shit

@171876665
I bet you thought that was really funny in your head.

>>171876305
i dont need your handouts

>>171872470
Haven't you noticed yet? All deranged devs from agdg are rich mommy boys as fuck.
>boogeyman poster to not say his name
>bokube

>>171877146
It's so easy to make money these days anyone can become wealthy because of capitalism

>>171877146
made my neurons fire faster than normal

>>171877310
If making money was easy, I wouldn't be doing this

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>>171877393
You are in gamedev for the money?

>>171877393
It is easy you just don't know how to make money

>>171877476
You aren't?

>>171877476
I'm in it for the pussy

>>171877560
Same this is why I am planning for women to cosplay my characters

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>>171877549
I dev for dev's sake. But I really wouldn't mind getting money from this.

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>>171877742
>>171877549
>expecting to make money as a gamedev

>devving for money
>devving for pussy
>devving for attention
you're in for a rude awakening

>>171877849
Name 1 bad game that didn't make at least 50,000

Only bad devs don't make money

>>171877849
Where exactly did I say I was expecting it? I said I wouldn't mind.

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>>171877929
>50.000
>money

Maybe if you are under 21.

I have cousins who make more than that in half a year walking behind a garbage truck

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I'm Snoop Dogg and i'm making a video game. Ask me anything.

>>171877929
switch bad for good obviously

Point still stands. There's never been 1 single good indie game that wasn't successful. Literally not 1

>>171878070
$50,000 is a lot of money you liar

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>>171878139
For spending 2 years on something? Before taxes?

>>171878070
>moving the goalposts

>>171877929
the googem collection

>>171878070
dumb animeposter

>>171878305
>mentioning googem
Get out, honkey.

Does anyone "sketch" 3d characters with primitives, then model them?

>>171878232
>2 years

How slow and incompetent are you?

Most good games make WAY more than 50k anyway, so your point is invalid

>>171877916

That Phil Fish got all three, most importantly he got all the pussy. Why do you think they call him Phil Fish? The smell of all that stanky on his hang-down.

>>171878232
Gamedev isnt stable, but if you can move 5k @ 10 or 10k @ 5. Youre on your way to a fanbase.
People that compare game dev income to a fixed wage slave are fucking stupid.

>>171878070
Anime is trash and you're a faggot. Get out you stupid fucking weeaboo. I legitimately want to fucking strangle you.

Sonniss gave away 20gb of license free audio today for GDC 2017. Download if anyone here is interested:

http://www.sonniss.com/gameaudiogdc2017/

Reminder that a game in development for longer than 6 months can not under any circumstances be good. If you have been devving for more than 180 days after you have written your first line of code, you need to kill yourself.

>>171878070
that's five years of minimal wage where I live.
ten if I live frugally.

;)

get gud.

>>171878406
Sometimes I'll blob some primitives together for a basic shape of a character, then take front/side pictures of that model, draw over it with more detail, then use those sketches to create the final model.

>>171878438
for every meme fish there is a dozen /agdg/ nodevs who think posting cancer is dev, hundred dozen redditeurs who think they're gonna make it big making a single mobile game after reading tutorials for two weeks and dozen thousand other failures who don't frequent english-speaking shithead aggregators

>>171857705
Did you already release Signs of Life?

>>171874494
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=889065741
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=889061759
these two went up yesterday

a game like Shaq-fu, only inverted... Jackie Chan's Pro Slam Dunk

>>171878547
>living in third world countries
Muricans need to leave 4chins.

>>171878535
>longer than 6 months
>most games take at least 2 and half years to make

You know nothing about game developing and you should fucking shoot yourself between the eyes.

>>171878530
Whoa, sweet

>>171878589
hmm
I'm trying to find a workflow that works without needing to learn to draw, since I'll run out of free character reference sheets eventually

>>171876037
That is a great model and animation. Really cool.

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>>171878682
Oh shit!

>>171878752
>muricans need to leave 4chins
Americans are most of the population of 4chung. Eurofags need to leave 4chung.

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>decide to make an online version of pong
>tfw just got packet serialization working so I don't waste a single precious byte while moving data
>haven't done shit about the actual game

>>171878825
just learn to draw you will be able to draw decently in a few weeks then you can sketch out everything to model it

It's literally that easy

Wonder if learning to draw and write well is a better investment of your time. Not like visual novels take any degree of programming skill anyway and there's always money in porn

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>>171878752

>not knowing the meaning of 'third world'

How uneducated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World#Three_World_Model

How is it to be living in 1989?

>>171878825
Learn to draw. A few months and you can sketch out things you need. Do it properly and it will only take 6 months - a year to be very very proficient.

>>171878918
we should all leave really, this place is a sewer quite frankly

>>171878794
You do realise though that the post you are replying to is clearly a parody of >>171878413, right?

>>171878919
Everyone has tried making an online version of Pong. I have. It's easy. Work on something else with an original idea driving it, dipshit.

>>171878682
Thanks for doing my research for me, LOSER!!