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THRIVING GAME EDITION

PREVIOUS: >>171790105

NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
>http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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serbers down?
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1st for buff Peacekeepers
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>tfw you fell in love with a game
>but it's made and controlled by the incompetent fucks at Ubisoft
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>>171836906

a tale as old as time itself
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>Playing the game as an honor filled fighter instead of just a shitpost simulator
No wonder none of you are having fun
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>>171836906
Rainbow six siege is fine now just be patient anon
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how is Leage of Legends still #1 on Twitch? can't believe that shit has lasted this long on top
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>>171836678
yes, the only way to really beat a conq is if he gets overaggressive with shield bash and doesn't parry any attempts to stuff it

kensei is slower than orochi with less utility

lb is fucking awful, nothing in his kit works aside form top light, meanwhile raider has effective tools with zone, stunning tap, and dash gb
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>threadly reminder that Raider is a peacekeeper killer
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>>171837095
It's free, runs on every computer made in the last 15 years and even a retarded 6 year old peruvian can do well in it
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>>171836781
Nth for new guy no fake
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Reminder that femc conq has no porn and thus is the purest waifu in the game, even fem warden has a few pics

Gas PK and Nobushi cucks.
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how do u counter warlord and valkryie?
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>>171837340
Pick warlord

>>171837318
Nobody wants porn of a trash ogre
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update 121mb
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>>171837429
>Nobody wants porn of a trash ogre
But anon, Valkryie has plenty of porn
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>>171837550
Goes to show more people want to fuck a downy than conq
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>>171837317
So we have
Sword and Board
Spear
Big Axe
Small Axe

What else did Kangs use? We already have a class with a big sword.
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AD
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>>171837317
>Highlander
If he doesn't use a two hander I'm going to be pissed.
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>>171836994
Honor (not 4v4) is what makes it fun
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FUCK
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>>171837821
>What else did Kangs use?

The vikings are all laughably inaccurate and make the others look like a 100% accurate historical sim by comparison so they could do literally anything
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2 things annyoing me in this game
Long swords are paddles for some reason
No scabbards
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>>171838241
half the reason warden looks so cool is the way they carry their sword around
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>>171838025
There's only one 2h weapon viking so I'd expect a large, crude sword
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kinda biased, tier list and nerf summary of what decent /fhg/ players want

>List:
S++ - PK, Conq, Warlord
A - Warden, Valk, Shugi
B - Nobushi, Orochi
C - Raider, Berserker
D - Keinsei, Law

>Nerfs:
>PK
lights - reduce damage
zone - either slower or punished on block, maybe both
general - reduce damage
>Warlord
headbutt - stamina cost increased, tracking reduced
allblock - no more heavy from it
lights - speed reduced
heavies - no more armor
throw distance gutted
>Conq
????????? (no way to nerf him without making him useless, needs rework)
but for a start
bash - increase stamina cost, increase recovery frames
heavy - damage increased to 25
general - no more free gb after blocking a heavy
>Warden
shoulder - stamina cost increased
>Buffs:
too hard to think of any without being able to test them
>General:
chip dmg from heavy attacks increased - assassins take 55% dmg, the rest 45-40%(further increased when out of stamina)
blocked attacks no longer punish with stamina drain
blocking attacks cost stamina
parrying attacks costs nothing (rewards a faster regen while out of stamina)
side dashes pause stamina regeneration
back dashes cost stamina, repeated dashes increase in stamina cost (they also drain the grey bar stamina(no dahses if not enough grey stamina))
feinting no longer ends the chain and costs barely any stamina
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>>171838241
>implying you'd use a scabbard in battle
metal ring as a quick holster thats about it
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>>171838241
The second one is only annoying on Orochi because he totally does a sheath animation and sound effect.

Everyone else just carries their weapon around as they would. You're not going to have a 46" nodachi in a sheath if you're "battle ready"
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>>171838386
Personally I would put Nobushi in C tier but otherwise this is really accurate
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>>171838386
fuck off with your dumb shit nigger
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>>171838470
i said decent players, you need not apply
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>>171837960
LODSEMONE
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>>171838538
see me
uplay: readhed
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>>171837317
>>171837821

Considering this is Ubisoft
What if, instead of having new ideas, they just make the new heroes mirrors of already existing classes, just with new animations?

>Ninja fights like Berserker
>Highlander fights like Warden
>Centurion uses spear & shield and fights like Valk
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>>171838580
>Characters have copy and pasted movesets, they're just new skins

Oh lawd I would pay to see the reddit meltdown. They're crashing and burning because of steel: imagine what this would do to them.
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>>171838580
NO STOP THEY'RE LISTENING
DELETE THIS
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>>171838569
duel me
uplay: aarpian
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>>171838767
aarpian isnt online unless ur phoneposting u fucking normie
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>>171838386
keep warlord's fast side lights, just make the forward dash > headbutt more obvious instead of turning into a headbutt literally instantly

sounds all good regardless
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>>171838843
headbutt is punishable if dodged tho, his side lights are a bit too fast for a heavy
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What is this update, is the game saved?
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>>171838914
The update was nothing.
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>>171838808
ur ugly, go away
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Remove i-frames on all dodges
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>>171838972
say that to my face and not online
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>>171839035
turn around
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>>171838890
okay, don't make it give a free GB if dodged, it's just stupid as it is due to being basically unreactable

i wanna agree about the heavy thing but honestly slowing down attacks even more in this already slow game doesn't make me feel right
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>>171838386
>post-fix shugoki having anything going fir him other than his "just grab my shit up" anti-headbutt armor
>raider a whole tier above kensei

Most PK nerfs are generic enough for anyone who thinks she needs one to agree on so I don't really care at this point.

Warlord shouldn't be able to tech while in allblock, but the timing needs to get fixed: they added delay to the guard frames, but the stamina consumption occurs just as early as it did pre-patch for some reason. My guess is that ubi will just make it useless since he honestly doesnt need it to be a good character, but then they won't be able to nerf anything else about him.

Conq does need a rework since he's basically just a discount warlord with side dodge into bash and a wall combo gimmick.

Not sure about anything else.
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>>171839342
shugoki instant run is very good what are you talking about

also has the best gb feint
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>>171839342
raider at least has something going on for him
kensei not so much
shugi is still good, and his double/unparryable was never in consideration for him being strong
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>>171839450
Insta run got nerfed
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>>171839552
it's just stricter timing, still works
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>>171839552
it's still doable, but harder now
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>>171839564
>>171839580
I guess I'll go try it, but the nerf affected lawbringer's running attavk as well so I seriously doubt sugi's run is as goid as it was. I used to be able to dashdance in place to pop an impale whenever I wanted, now I'll throw out heavies if I try it.
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>>171839682
excuse my phoneposting holy shit
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*ATTENTION PS4BROS*
There is now an /fhg/ community on PS4
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General
OR
Message TheSteroid386 and I will invite you to the community!
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>>171840640
You guys going to host tourneys or events?
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what if we made a custom dominion matches with no gear and no feats?
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What was the new update? Why don't Ubisoft share what they have changed?
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>Complete 8 matches with a friend by your side
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>>171841306
heres the list of changes: fix brakedancing bodies of dead conqs
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>>171841453
Thank goodness this game is finally fixed.
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lol
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>>171841694
>b-but not all players are on steam!
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>XBONE
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Well we are finished I guess

I wanna say this was a good General then it turned to shit but now it's alright I guess

I love the game so uh yeah I dunno
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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>>171842078
metal kid
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>>171842069
Dunno about you, but I like the generals when they're quieter like this.
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>>171842194
>>171842078
metal kid
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>>171842220
I prefer my games dead too
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>>171842069

Let's at least live till the 1st DLC
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>>171838386
This is good

T. Kensei main
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>>171842220
This is a little far into the "fucking dead" category for my tastes, but generally I agree with you.
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>tfw I have better results with Kensei than with Warden

Maybe Warden isnt for me
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>>171842439
Low to mid level play kensei is better
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>>171842381
Don't tell me you liked post release for Honor that was a shit storm

Aren't most /vg/ generals that aren't popular on the slow side?
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>>171842494
With Kensei i'm at the level where we both feint and cancel a million times though, I wouldnt call myself low to mid
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>>171841694
You got this from Reddit didn't you?
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>>171841912
what a fucking kick in the teeth this update is, of the mountain of shit that needs fixing this is what they do?
im fucking done
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>>171842602
>feinting
>not low to mid
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How conq can be nerfed without getting him down to shit-tier?
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>>171842975
Fix his bugs/glitches to start.
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>Kensei can land 3 hits, if his finisher gets parried he loses ALL his stamina

yeah that's kind of stupid. Even if you feint it, youre still down almost all of it for almost half damage
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>law
>fighting warden
>both low hp onee light can kill
>side light attack
>warden respond with zone ttack after my light goes out
>get hit by it even tho i attacked first
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>>171843169
tfw his top light could have done it too
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>brawl
>shugokin running at me with low health for a hug
>I'll be clever
>grab my guy throw him between me and the shug
>the shug paths around his friend to grab me

what in the fuck, I even got the splat on his friend
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>>171842852
What's wrong with fixing "performance and match stability?"
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>>171843069
They fixed it today.
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>Zone attacks are for when you are surrounded xD
>They replace the need for skill on PK, Orochi, Warlord (lol) and Warden instead
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>but dude gear level doesn't mean shit xd
>rep 17 warden
>hit him 3 times
>revenge
>barge so i get down
>3/4 of my hp with his top heavy
ecks dee
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If i fight an opponent with same 108 gear, why does he can have revenge in 1v1 sooner than me?
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>tfw every single one of those """"stability"""" patches made my game more unstable

Before, my game ran smoothly but I had DCs like everyone. Now I get stutters and freezes so bad that the game will boot me out once the game stabilizes.
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>>171843789
Because you dared to attack first? Fucking NOOB?
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>>171843767
In duels
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>>171843556
nothings "wrong" with it but this games loosing players quicker than a bucket of water with a whole in it and yet they fail to address the issues thats causing this player drop, id love them to fix this game dont get me wrong
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>>171843169
your side light is 36 frames
his top light and zone are both 30
sorry buddy
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>>171844068
zone is faster than the top light
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What if they balanced the game seperately between the 4v4 and 2v2/1v1 modes? that way it solves the problem of them over buffing LB in 4v4's to get him to a solid point in 1v1's
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>>171844379
The only thing about LB thats OP in 4v4 is the infinite flip. Nerfing it wouldn't hurt him in 1v1 anyway, theres really no need to balance them separately.
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>>171842610
he got it from steamcharts silly
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>>171844068
nice balance
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I just wanted to do my daily order ubi
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>>171844379
Personally I feel that LB should be able to flip as a cancel out of one of his heavies.

If he's using a poleaxe then why doesnt take the axe behind him like he's gonna swing bet then use the backside to flip? Instead of making it super telegraphed
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>>171843732
Give good side attacks to orochi and warden and I'll take whatever nerf you want to their zone.
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-Decrease the stamina consumption of all attacks by about 50%.
-Increase the stamina consumption of zone attacks.
-Increase stamina consumption of parried attacks.
-Normalize stance-changing.
-Increase variety of mix-ups for slower classes.
-Decrease the damage of PK's lights by 25% or increase the amount of time between the second light and the start of the next first light by about .25 seconds.
-Decrease tracking on Warlord headbutt slightly. Also full guard causes GBs to become untechable.
-Blocking a Lawbringer's light attack does not interrupt their chain.

Anyone have anything to add?
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>>171845014
ZA should be a desperation move so yeah, I'm fine it takes all your stamina. Warden slap is way too safe
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>>171837317
Not big on the helmet but the armor is nice, stands out without being tacky which is something the vikings seem to struggle with.
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>>171843314

>Ally tries to steal a Shugoki kill and gets between me and the ogre
>Ogre grab
>Phases right through him towards me and kills me.
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>>171837317

He has no helmet since we can paint his face
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I'll shill myself again; anybody looking for someone to play For Honor with that's also on Steam? Looking for something a little more than a random fuckbuddy I'll play with twice.

I don't care if you're bad, just don't be a salty baby
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>>171837001
>Glaz
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>>171845087

To be honest it's not. If you block it you get a free GB. Orochi's is worse, but PK's is the biggest offender.

>t. Rep 16 PK
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>>171840928
Yes, once we get more people I plan on hosting events.
I was actually planning on doing a 1v1 event maybe after this round ends if enough people in the group are interested.
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>>171845437
He means Siege is fine in playerbase and fixes
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>>171845486
>have a work appointment in a few hours
>going to miss it

fawk
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>>171845419
Should probably post my profile instead of making other people do the work
http://steamcommunity.com/id/thesterg
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t. raider player
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>>171845728

That really kindled my channel
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when are they going to fix pk and her spamming light+zone

it annoy me because they think they're better when they kill you while in revenge fighting 1v1
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>>171845728
came here from dark souls general to tell you that for honour has shitter pvp than dark souls
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>>171838183
This shit happened to me before when I tried to throw an exhausted warden off a bridge.
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>>171846113
>falseflagging autist with a hateboner for Dark Souls
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>>171845087
Warden slap is one of the least safe zones. I even parry that shit for style points. I wish all zones were that punishable.
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>>171845419
I don't have for honor on steam, but if you're willing to use uplay's friend list add ModuloPlus.
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>>171846303
On my laptop without uplay atm, I'll get you later if I don't forget. Alternatively just send an invite to Remove_PK
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>>171846352
gotcha
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Why is it taking them so long to buff the Memebringer and Raider?
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>>171846156
i have a hateboner for tsun anons~
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>>171846517
They're confirmed rebalancing at least 5 classes: Raider, Lawbringer, Berserker, Warlord and Conqueror. They probably want to do everything all at once.
They want to make sure the buffs/nerfs they get to improve them in one mode doesn't make them broken in another mode.
They may even begin to start addressing the defensive meta in the same balance patch.
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>>171846709
If they don't want to deliver that patch to a 3 digit amount of players they better hurry the fuck up.
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>>171846709
>>171846842
hopefully we will get info next week
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I can't even think of what buffs Raider would get. They want to improve his dueling but not render him overpowered in 4v4 at the same time (because he shines in those modes).
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>>171846956
side heavy after a gb
give him one fast attack
makes his chains ignore block
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>>171846709
>>171846842
>>171846894
honestly? this patch will either make or brake the game

this is their last chance before im jumping ship
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>>171845419
>>171845663
Sure why not, I play a pretty good amount and am fairly okay most times except when I'm not.
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>>171847041
>side heavy after a gb
Overdoing it desu, he does too much damage for that. Super armor half way into a heavy attack would be nice. It's annoying as fuck to just not be able to do them because you will only be interrupted by fast classes. They don't even have to deal with blocking or parrying them.
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>elimination
>down to one berserker
>we close in but keep our distance
>one guy going at him
>we aren't letting him get revenge
>our guy gets executed
>what an idiot, now's our chance
>we all slap him with heavies
>he gets revenge and knocks down to of us
>isntant one shot fireball feat right after
>everyone on my team quits at the same time

THIS GAME WAS DESIGNED FOR 4V4 DAILY REMINDER
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>>171846468
Uplay : SpartanDerp
I'm so lonely
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>>171846956
>>171847220
dunno, nobushi gets high damage after gb

>lawman
change his chains
heavy > unblockable heavy
means he can get an unblockable after shove
side light/heavy hit > faster unblockable heavy
maybe also add a light confirm after shove

also armor on his heavies
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>>171846517
According to the dev stream, they havnt even figured out what they want to do with them.
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>>171847220
A super armored heavy per class is something i'd really like. It would be an additional option to diversify the combat system and make reads more rewarding. Hell you could probably get out of a warden """"vortex"""" with it unless he cancels it into a parry.
After that you can make classes specialized in super armored heavies if you want.
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>>171847537
Nobushi gets any raw heavy she wants after a guardbreak, which deals bonus damage if the enemy was already bleeding. It's a fair trade for someone who doesn't normally get so close.
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>>171847537
shove start combos tho
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Do any of you send friend requests on uplay after bodying a guy 3-0 and he ragequits on the last round/during an execution? Of course I don't want to be their friend, I just want to make it feel like they're fleeing yet again.

I feel it's especially satisfying when it's a Warlord or PK.
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i've faced petemoo 3 times in elimination
Kill me already
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>>171848145
no but then again i dont have a small penis
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>>171848068
shove is also retardedly slow and anyone hit with it knows 100% that your next move is an attack or a GB

This is why they fall for the long arm most of the time
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>>171847454
Added.
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>>171848248
I keep running into the same red bar warden and nobushi players
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>>171848262
t. ragequitter
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>>171848651
thats not how u spell horse cock
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>>171848712
Do you only think of cocks when playing? PK suits you well.
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>>171847381
You got outplayed sons.
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>>171848767
im straight
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Any word of further balance patches yet? I stopped playing about a week ago.
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Can anyone explain to me how the fuck warlords headbutt stab works? 99% of the time he just does an ordinary light attack that gets blocked while sometimes when I'm lucky he actually does the stab
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Warlord is such a fucking joke holy shit, fuck this headbutt bullshit
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>>171848269
>not fainting that attack then proceed to get smashed

you're play law wrong if you're winning
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>>171848889
just dodge it
atleast you can dodge it in comparison to wardens
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>>171848837
imgay.wav
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>>171848837
That's exactly what a gay would say
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if warden vortex is sooo broken why do almost no high level wardens use it?
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>>171849450
Good players like do reliable damage with heavies, its not that the vortex sucks its that not even good players want to deal with RNG shit.
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>>171849450
They do literally nothing else
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>>171849583
No they don't, if you watch tournaments they rarely ever vortex
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>>171849450
because only shitters use it and think they some MGLCSSGOPRO take it away and what do they have?
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>>171849752
fast zone, crush counter, double lights, naked bash, high HP...
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Did the update do shit? The one thing I noticed was faster matchmaking.
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>>171848841
We only have a vague idea of who's getting balanced, but even that's not a complete picture. We have no information as to when the next full update, not just a server-side update, will be ready.
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>>171849160
>>171849259
u guys homophobes or something lmao
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>>171849828
See >>171841912
>Various bug fixes to improve performance and match stability.
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>>171849712
We haven't watched the same tournaments
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>>171849904
pointing out that someone is gay doesn't make you a homophobe it just makes you observant

you fugging faggot
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>>171849450
warden is so broken that they don't even need to use all of their OP moves
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>>171849989
i dont see how sexuality matters but w/e
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>>171846956
His lights need a bit more damage
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>people thinking dlc characters will be 25k because it's like that in siege
why are some people so daft?
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>>171850019
If it's a moneymatch and people are doing everything to win, then why are they not using it?

If Warden is so broken that he doesn't even need to use everything, than why hasn't a Warden won a tourney? Or hell, even gotten higher than top 8?

Warden is a shitterhitter. If you think he's OP, you're a shitter.
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>>171849904
imgay.wav poster here, I meant me, I'm super gay, potentially the gayest here, my level of man loving should practically be a point of concern
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>bro just dodge the warlord headbutt!!!!
I would love to see someone dodge this shit 100% of the time reliably, the timing is fucking ridiculously short.
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>>171838185
>Ubisoft fell for the "vikings were half naked savages" meme
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>>171850232
The giant rough stitching kills me a little bit

>they figured out how to make delicate wood carving for their weapon shafts but can't sew
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>>171850232
I mean admittedly they were never going for like real accuracy, every class is thoroughly pop-fiction.
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>>171837317
>some people actually fell for this shit
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>>171850190
I don't know why people still spout this bullshit, it's nearly impossible to actually dodge it on reaction. The best part is when you think it's coming but then they just guardbreak your dash instead
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since i am bretty good at warden
and leveled nobu to rep 1 and feel like i know almost everything about her

imma go learn warlord

what do i have to know about him? apart from "spam headbutt"
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>>171849825
yet they rely on the charge spam
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>>171850545
Your side lights are as fast as Wardens Zone and PKs lights.
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>>171850545
you've already mastered him
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>>171850359
They didn't even try with the vikings
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>>171850437
What's wrong with it.
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>>171850773

It's a fantasy game
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What's the guardbreak glitch I keep hearing about?
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why is everyone so pissed about not being able to get everything ingame?
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>>171851000
this?
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>>171850941

A fantasy game with shitty vikings
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>>171849860
Well, shit. Guess I'll return to the game when that finally happens. Or a new class comes in.
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I just got 3-0'd by a Lawbringer as Warden

AMA
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>>171851264
Why should I care?
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>>171850091
25k steel ain't that hard to get, so its a definite possibility. Course, I got the season pass for that very reason.
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>>171851168
have no clue, it's irrational need to hate something that comes from sjw culture, personally i have absolutely no problem with being able to fully upgrade/unlock just a few heroes, i just wish there was a way to buy cosmetcis that are unlocked with xp
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>>171851264
How do you plan on killing yourself?
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>>171850359
>Lawbringers absolutely fuckhuge armour loosely inspired by late 15th-16th century plate
>Right next to Conqueror in a 13th century greathelm and tabard, 15th century pauldrons, and absolutely no armour of any kind protecting his thighs and forearms
>This right next to the fucking odds and ends bin that is the warden, a dude who uses a fucking """"""longsword"""""" as a primary weapon
Yeah, fair enough
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Is there any way at all to skip the post match result shit?
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>>171848248
He'd 1v1 you? If not thats ok, because he's good only with his premade ganking randoms all aroud with backup at any trouble, i faced him some times in dominion, he was ultra tryhard-mode unlocked-running with his shugoki against my team full of non-rep gearless noobies and didnt even tried to 1v1.
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>>171851168
Because they bought a AAA title at full price, so they shouldn't be unreasonably locked out of content and customization in that title.

>>171851490
You can mash A to push through the different results screens a little faster.
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>>171851591
Yeah but then game auto selects the first equipment you got in the match and equips it
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>>171851591
It's all cosmetic anyway
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>>171851591
>so they shouldn't be unreasonably locked out of content and customization in that title
But, they're not, it just takes a long time to get it all, and honestly who the fuck actually wants to buy that many shitty looking ornaments in the first place? Most folk wouldn't even use them if they were unlocked from the very start.
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>>171851932
>it just takes a long time to get it all
To them, that constitutes "unreasonably locked out of."
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>doing orders
>3 elimination matches
>after several fucking minutes find people
>select my shitty LB
>sit in the loading screen for another several minutes
>match begins
>error: connection lost

So it's going to be one of those days
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>>171851791
I'm honestly sick as fuck of the MUH LOCKED CONTENT AAA TITLE REEEEEEEEE posters but to be fair, if you don't unlock them you won't have gear and gear does affect the game.
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>>171852026
>I WANT THIS THING!
>Okay, so just keep playing the game and you'll eventually have the resources you need to-
>NOOOO! I WANT IT NOW! IWANTITIWANTITIWANTIT!
Casual gamers were a mistake
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>>171851214

Who gives a fuck
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>>171851191
Yeah, that's the one. You just cancel with a light?
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>>171851317
>Muh innernet poleeticks shoehorned in
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>>171851932
>>171852530
I'd agree more if the game wasn't a completely broken mess
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>>171852530
It's not even that they have to grind Steel to get it. It's that they have to make a conscious choice about what to buy and be locked out of something else for an extended period, because natural Steel gains are so tiny. Ubisoft already confirmed that the vast majority of players are only using Steel they naturally earned from the game, not from Steel packs.
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>They will nerf Revenge attack and revenge gain by defense
>Wont notice a difference because I already use fully maxed throw distance anyway
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>>171852714

It's not that bad but it has issues

Honestly I'll stick around since I have hope for this game I already sunk 100 hours into it
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>dirty twitching line art
>what are human proportions
>what is color palette
>what is shadowing
And yet I'm still drowning in porn requests. Are For Honor fangays so desperate? Fucking hell.

Also, post draw ideas.
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>>171852598
search for it on reddit, it's done with guard changes
some classes have it easyer than others
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>>171852714
Out of all the problems the game actually has it seems pretty fucking stupid to focus on "it takes too long to get all these dumb looking bobbles on my helmets"
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>>171852896
because they're requests and nobody really gives a shit about quality they don't pay for
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>>171852895
I got kicked from a game the second it started and at the beginning of each round of a new round, the game shat itself with connection issues. Loading times are awful. It's a mess.
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>>171853006
When the game is as much of a mess as it is, you tend to fixate on the negative. That's when you start pointing out other flaws and problems. It mainly helps that the issue came to light and had to be directly addressed by Ubisoft because one guy was obsessed enough to do the math.
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>>171852896
Her left hand is fucked my dude. She has two right hands.

You would honestly probably benefit from forgoing shading and just going with flat colors. Brighter is better: that pink is gross.
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>>171852896
Have you seen for honor porn? it consists of like four good lewdkeeper pics, dozens of shit doodles...

And a few fucking shadman images that look better than most of them, you know the game has some absolutely pitiful porn if fucking shadman stands out as noticeably better than most the other pics.
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>>171853006
That's just the icing on the cake
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>>171853231
>shad looking better than anything
I still don't get him, he probably CAN draw well but his style is just disgusting. Ahego is also beyond shit tier in general
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78 damage from one hit from warden is perfectly fine
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>>171853231
>you can tell a game is good by how much porn of it there is
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>>171853290
>when people bitch about OP classes and don't even complain about what makes them OP
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Can anyone explain to me how people can grab me while I'm in mid swing, even when doing lights and heavies? sometimes I'm even just a centimetre away from hitting him and he just grabs me
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>>171853321
Not always true, LeL has mountains of it and is objectively inferior in it's own genre.
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>>171853427
thats my point just look at overwatch.
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>>171853372
issue with warden is that it has literally everything
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>>171853321
When did I say that?
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>>171853558
You misspelled Warlord
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HOLY SHIT THIS GAME'S FALLING APART ON PS4
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>>171853558
No, it's vortex spam, that's it
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>>171851407
It still bothers me that none of the knights have any thigh protection. Damn lawman is covered nice and snug in plate but once those faulds flap fucker is wearing blue jeans. Also warden's entire design is a fucking mess with a half tabard and leather body armor. The cinematic trailer has femwarden in a breastplate along with the knight captain mooks yet we don't actually get any of that shit.
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>>171853710
how?
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>the only order left is the one to have 8 killstreak on skirmish
>6 matches so far, every one had at least 2+ 108 gear level enemies
xD
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>>171853834
>His maille has fucking t-shirt sleeves, leaving the gaps in his arms protected by his fucking gambeson
>Gambeson vest over the maille t-shirt for no fucking reason
>That mini shield strapped to the left side of his chest and like three metal plates over his stomach with a two to three inch gap between them
Seriously, the fuck is going on here? Are they scared he'd look too much like a lawbringer if they just gave in a normal breastplate?
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>>171854109
Don't do it. It's not worth the stress.
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How many Orochi mains will become Ninja mains do you think
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>>171854109
>finally got two 108s in my team
>they're total garbage and we get stomped
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>>171854262

He's got chain underneath. They decreased armor coverage in exchange for mobility and flexibility.

And artistic license.
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>>171854262
Maybe its because I prefer simplicity but judging from wardens design it feels like they just kept on slapping on stuff till it hit over engineered status. Personally I would prefer if they used the captain look, just plain and simple without too much noise.
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Realism fags sometimes
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>>171853058
Fair enough. Didn't think about that.

>>171853182
>two right hands
Didn't mean to do it, but if you say so.
>forget shading
Yeah I probably will, shadows are pain in a ass anyway.

>no additional draw ideas
Well, it looks like my drawfag service is not required. Good.
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>>171854262
The cataclysm was harsh on everyone.
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>game now 75% off on steam
Lets all kick back and watch the population not grow at all
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>>171854885
Only 17% for me?
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>>171854885
Wait

What?
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>>171854885
?
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>>171854885
it's just 17% you falseflagger faggot
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>>171854885
>(You)
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>>171854782
I know there's maille under the strange gambeson vest he's wearing (though that would make the vest kinda pointless), but why would you wear maille under gambeson sleeves? The whole point of gambeson is that it's supposed to be padding under the actual armour so it hurts less when the armour gets hit or if like an inch of the sword slides between a ring.

They should have just made his entire upper body maille and given him the other half of his tabard
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how to dispose of garbage?
you throw it away
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>>171854954
>>171854956
>>171854994
>>171855117
The steam facefuck page said "up to 75% off of ubisoft games," I jumped the gun a wee bit
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>>171855286
also, holy fk warlords model blocks everything
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>>171855286
I will never understand people who get salty about being thrown off ledges, you're the dumbass with no terrain management skills, don't start a fight like an inch away from a fatal fall.
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>enemy is good at parrying lignts and blocking
Do I just give up if im raider?
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>mfw 0.12 winrate in Dominion from farming overnight all the time with mathcmaking off for that sweet sweet steel
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>orochi in revenge can just spam lights and kill you in 2-3 hits

who thought letting fast classes gain the same about of damage in revenge then the slower classes was fair?
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>>171855440
warlord does not care tho ;^)
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>>171855481
Can PC players still get away with it?
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>>171855229

Again, similar to the way that armor evolved into basically taking it off completely, some armor might be removed in favor of flexibility and mobility. That said, there's other variations in armor that are intended specifically to create a psychological event in the opponent, like horizontal stripes on the arms. This causes a problem with the way the brain registers the appearance and makes you look like you have shorter range than you actually do.
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>>171855616
I'm doing it with matchmaking off, as in full bots on both my team and their team. I doubt you can get banned for that
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>>171854262
>>171853834
if warden wore plate then it wouldn't be logical for warden to be one of the fastest characters in the game
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>>171855440
I mean the jungle bridge is particularly awful about that at least, a lot of random heavies are enough to actually stagger you hard enough for the hazard suction to kick in and kill you.
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>>171855713
Chain is heavier than plate, just less flexible.
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>>171855752

...What?
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>>171855713
Than why not just give him bringandine? I mean technically it's not all that much lighter than a breastplate but from a purely aesthetic standpoint it looks less heavy.
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>>171855713
>>171856002
Someone post the thing, the gymnastics in plate thing.
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>>171856026
Because that looks retarded

Its not about protection flexibility effectiveness, its about sending a message
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>any Warden ornament other than Wings
fucking plebs
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>>171856026

From an aesthetic standpoint it looks ridiculous. They wanted a character that looks badass, not a character that people today would call a metal clown.
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>>171856089
That looks cooler than what we have though.
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>>171856002
No, seriously. A chain shirt weighs more than most breastplates.
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>>171853558
Warlord*
ftfy
>>
Just got a 177MB update. What is that about?
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>>171856089
>Brigandine
>Retarded
Knave detected.
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Fuck Forest and fuck rain. I have no idea why but those two things tank my fps.
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>>171856002
Maille is hella heavy muh dude, a breastplate is actually considerably lighter than a shirt of maille.

That being said, weight honestly wasn't as big a factor in armour as most people think, most knights in full plate wore full maille underneath to full up the gaps with little issue, properly worn armour distributes weight very well.
The biggest issue was actually heat, you're basically wearing a super heavy coat underneath a mesh of steel underneath a steel pot, on a hot day that shit is basically a furnace.
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>>171856314
New cosmetics
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>we were supposed to get costumes today
WHERE ARE THEY UBI
WHERE ARE THEY
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any game with either orochi or PK are fucking shit

true cancer
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>>171856148
>From an aesthetic standpoint it looks ridiculous
And a tiny shield over a gambeson vest doesn't?
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>>171856456
I think thats tommorow
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>>171856248
How >>171855752 phrased his post is weird; normally when you say "____ is ____, just ____," the last blank is something that should orta run against or ammend the prior instead of adding to it. Like in the sentance "bob isn't fatter, he's just larger in general," the last part is an alternative to the prior.
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>>171855290

Classic /vg/
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>>171856472
>complaining about orochi of all characters

How to spot someone who can't block or parry or gbc or have basic positional awareness
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>When they admit it
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>>171856529
They said every Thursday.
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>>171856193
This looks like something from dark souls
For honor characters are 7 feet tall big n meaty with broad builds this would look retarded on them
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>>171856472
I fucking hate PKs who intentionally try to get ganked in 4v4s so they can get revenge.

Gangrape sluts indeed.
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>>171853915
Connections absolutely shitting the bed, kicked out of matches, resynching at least twice a match with no discernable reasons
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>>171852224
>get 8 killing spree on skirmish (player vs player)
>after 10 games, finally get 8
>connection loss

I don't get angry easily, but shit like this just GRINDS MY GEARRRS
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>>171856580
>orochi top is the easiest shit to parry
>since I'm playing raider I cant swap top n block fast enough
>can only block instead of parry
It hurts
As soon as I see red I move to top and press heavy but it always blocks.
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>>171854262
>His maille has fucking t-shirt sleeves, leaving the gaps in his arms protected by his fucking gambeson
That isn't so bad
>Gambeson vest over the maille t-shirt for no fucking reason
arms and chest are probably from different sets
>That mini shield strapped to the left side of his chest and like three metal plates over his stomach with a two to three inch gap between them
covers the most vital areas and barely sacrifices any mobility

stop autismus
>>
What if I'm a Warlord but never use headbutt against people with a cool emblem
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>>171854262

Realism fags please go
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>>171857169
>>covers the most vital areas
>Stab at enemy and hit the shield
>Blade slides right off the armour like it's supposed to
>Directly into the middle of the chest, getting a firm purchase on the gambeson vest
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>>171855661
I still wonder how afk farming works in general. Like sure turning off matchmaking, but isn't the player selection not timed? You wouldn't progress without actively selecting a hero.
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>>171856580
>block top
>they zone attack
>block left
>show they're attacking top
>lolno zone attack

>block left
>they actually do ligh top

How to spot someone who dont know jackshit
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>>171856816
i've been having no problems
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>>171857505
Orochi's zone hits your right. That might be your problem.
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>>171856080

Gymnastics is about allocation of weight for balance and flexibility. The problem in the gymnastics argument is that mail is generally poorly balanced and its looseness is unfavorable in a gymnastics setting. Plate is fixed and can be compensated for as the weight distribution is predictable. In addition, the movement of the chain, if lose, has a pendulum effect, the inertia of which creates a weight. And no, you take ringmail and a plate armor that covers the same space on the body and plate will be heavier. That's just science. You'd need to be wearing really thin plate.
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>>171857420
to be fair, if a knight sucks enough to get stabbed, armor is the last thing to keep them alive

It's mainly protecting from slashes, besides, gambeson and maille provide alot of cushion and resistance
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>>171857590
block left = their left

its a matter of perspective
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>Update on Xbox
Is this finally the patch that we've been expecting, right?
That means no more instant all guard on Warlord and a couple other things I forget. About time.
>>
Remove skirmish, dominion, friend and AI orders. Thank you
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>>171857864
No one talks about guard direction from their opponents perspective.
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>>171857887
No it's a stability patch
Read the thread
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>>171857687
>You'd need to be wearing really thin plate
Historical plate was only about 1.5mm-3mm thick (depending on the area)
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>every hero with slower guard change and without superior range or hyper armor is garbage

Who woulda thought.
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>>171857915
point still stands
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>>171857505
you just described the typical warden gameplay

some of them might have the balls to try feint top to light top but most just fuck around with vortex or light top / zone
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>>171857846
>You can stab straight through armour
Stop listening to the history channel, fuckers make a living by selling misinformation to people who don't know shit about the topic at hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3lcgIAwLk
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>>171858238
But GMOs cause cancer and polio and smallpox and homosexuality, Naturalnews told me so
>>
>>171856137
>not liking ridged

I'll put wings wings on my helmet when they give us the option to use Daubony's
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>>171858238
I didn't say you can stab through armor. I meant that if a knight gets stabbed (under arms, neck etc) thick chest armor won't be very helpful
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>>171858453
>under arms, neck, etc
I said he'd get hit directly in the middle of the chest because of the armour setup, not wrestled to the ground and have a dagger slid into the gaps.
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Who /buyers remorse/ here?

All the microtransaction drama really awakened my almonds. Fuck this game kek

>20k for dlc characters when you're awarded 50 steel per match
And I payed 60 for this shit. At least I learnt my lesson. There is literally no way to defend the price and around of microtransactions in this game

It's literally like a f2p game
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>>171853286
>ahegao
>shit tier
I never thought I could be this triggered.
>>
>>171858668
Literal 13 year olds raus
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>>171858636
I don't really give a shit because I only plan to play two classes at most, hoping to get some free shit out of it tho
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>>171858000

And chain can run a bit over .5 to 2.5mm. And have a massive amount of space because they're rings.
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>tfw no one here takes you seriously because you play on PS4 even though you're breddy gud
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I want to marry FemWarden!
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>>171858636

Upvoted
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>>171858002
>Kensei has range AND hyper armor
>Still garbage
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>>171858878
Being good at against PS4 players is like being good at not shitting yourself while drunk
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>>171858636
>20k for dlc characters

Source?
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>>171859069
because warden has that plus better speed and damage and grabs and stuns and combos
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>>171858636

I dont really care if it isnt connection or balance issues
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>>171852896
How much do you make per request?
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>>171858636
>only main Warden
>already own all of the cosmetics I want for him, only missing dumb shit like A SKULL AND FEMURS ON TOP OF YOUR HELMET or dumb mood effects

If they unfuck revenge gear and the defensive meta and improve connection stability, the game would be perfect in my eyes. I don't care about the microtransactions because I'm done with them.
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>>171859094
Being good on PS4 is arguably harder because you have half as much time to react to shit because of 30fps.

Your opponent also has half as much time to react to shit, but when they're a light spamming PK, they're not even trying so it doesn't matter.
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>>171858636

>tfw I haven't played in 2 weeks

Just came here to see how the game is doing and if it's worth coming back to yet. No good games on the horizon, so I've been replaying old favorites.
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>>171859404
don't forget input lag and deadzones
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>>171858636
I'm not defending micro transactions, but we can get 600 steel a day bare minimum if you only do the daily challenges. The only thing important that's going to be a grind is the new characters. Hopefully gear is nerfed by then so we don't have to waste steel upgrading their gear
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>>171859404
That's not how that works. You automatically intrapolate between frames and compensate as a result
>>171859582
I use a 360 controller because to intelligent four KBM to be fair
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>>171859047
Holy crap this manga
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>>171859743
Also not to mention everybody suffers from 30fps so it balances itself out
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>>171858636
Siege does the same thing and recieves no flak

Steel prices have not been released.
Its pay to customize not pay to play heroes.
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>>171859904
To be fair in siege there wasn't as much hyperbullshit certain characters could pull off. Also it does affect 4v4 modes
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>>171860090
>>171859904
>>
indicator glitch in 30fps as lb
it's impossible to block certain attacks
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>>171859404
>you have half as much time to react to shit because of 30fps.
Holy shit I cannot believe people are this retarded

You have half as many frames but they each last twice as long. Unless there was some move with an odd framecount at 60 fps, your times would be the same.
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>>171860090
But you're not bitching about balance you're bitching about Steel.
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>>171860090
>dlc heroes literally control the meta

Famalam

For honor needa dynamic steel rewards

In siege if you do really good you get 300 in casual 400 in ranked, they also do events where you earn a additional 150~250 renown.
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>>171859441

Thats my entire problem with For Honor

It is the freshest game to come out in a while with great fucking gameplay held back by technical issues


Unlike Evolve/Battleborn For Honor actually has good gameplay when it comes down to it but ubishit hurts it badly.
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>crying PK and the lost cap points

shit i could write a book on how much salt this pk was producing
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>>171859904
Except in 4v4 modes good gear and upgrading gear is literally required to compete against others who have it
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>>171860309
Evolve was pretty good when it started

But they tried to balance it.
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>>171860309

There is only one thing to do
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>>171859069
>Kensei hyperarmor is shit
I have just the webm
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>>171860438
Evolve beta and first month were fun, playing with the lads. Then DLC characters were 2good. Then they started 'balancing' shit.
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>>171860438
I bought evolve on launch and it was fun at first. Then it came to light they were literally trying to milk the playerbase dry with all the dlc and MULTIPLE "SEASON" PASSES

Also in the end the game was in the favor of the hunters once people figured out the meta. A good group of hunters will ALWAYS beat the monster.
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>>171859270
I don't take real money for my pics. (You)s and reposts are my currency. I just love to draw some silly things and seeing people liking it make me feel good.
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>>171860729

Atleast For Honor lets its DLC be free

I honestly think ubisoft is better than turtle cock
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>>171859357
>If they unfuck revenge gear and the defensive meta and improve connection stability, the game would be perfect in my eyes. I don't care about the microtransactions because I'm done with them.
Pretty much this. I don't really care about cosmetics or gear. I just want them to fix the meta and fix the connection issues.
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>>171860886

Ill stick around the DLC heroes look tight a fucking Centurion and a Highlander? sign me up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47G2mqxTXwI
>iSkys won against Extheleon
>mmuh warden-pro's
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>>171860438
the problem arose when they tried to balamce around "esports" leading to a situation where the game only barely functions in "pro play" and not at all outside of it
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>>171858636

I got my hours out of it, I still do my orders and shit though. I play Warlord now because I always liked him and as it happens it's also a very strong character so I can win my shit without getting unnecessarily salty about bad balancing.
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>>171861420
MISEBOOOOO :D
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>>171859904
>get 250 renown for each game + 200 for challenges
>25k operators
>get 50 steel per game and 100 per challenge
>25k heroes
>plus loot crates you pay for so you have a gear advantage over other players rather than just being cosmetics only

Hmmmm ive seen this in f2p games before.... really makes me think
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>>171861927
Where are you getting 25k steel for heroes from?

The way to figure this out is to look at how much 25k Ubibux costs in real money in Siege. Then convert that real money into FH Steel.
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>>171861420
This is so fucking boring to watch, holy shit.
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>>171861927

Lets wait and see if you can play the DLC heroes without buying them like the other heroes it would be great but I doubt it
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>>171861927
They are not 25k for for honor heroes
By pay you mean pay with steel?
If you ever buy steel packs for anything other than mythics then I have bad news for you.
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>>171862037
You can buy 1 dlc operator for 600 credits which costs £3.99

Let's not forget about the fact you use currency in for honor to have a gear advantage over other players. Wasn't this supposed to be a fighting game as well?
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gib LB tips bros
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>>171862315
Pay with steel, as in you either grind a fuck load or be a good goy and buy steel packs to have an advantage over everyone else
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>>171862428
Play something else or stop playing altogether
t. rep 4 LB
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>>171862371
>playing 4v4s
>>171862428
accept your fate as a the worse character
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>>171861420
>miseru city
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>>171862428
Get 108 gear and go play dominion
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>>171862815
Nice argument
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>>171861420
Warden mirror is legit the most fucking stupid matchup in the game.

>neither one can attack because their best attacks from neutral are unsafe on block OR Crush Counter bait - Warden hard counters Warden
>Turns into a retarded Shoulder Bash feinting joust

And this is coming from someone who normally enjoys mirrors in other games.
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>>171862160
Actually its not boring, its pretty much entertaining if you understang high-level play.
But the problem is - there isnt some pure "skill" involved in those matches due to game mechanics design, its about guess and luck, rather just flip a fucking coin than spend time for these "WARDENU MIRRORS".
That game isnt competitive at all and cant be it in any scenario.
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>>171863079
>understand
fxd
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I can't play characters without a dash guardbreak aynmore

Its the Kensei life for me
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>>171862514
I had the best loadout as soon as I hit rep 3 in 4 premium packs

I think your just retarded anon.

If you were to level a hero to rep 3 and do all contracts and orders you would have more than enough to get a "meta" loadout.
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>>171863331
Play Raider, fuck Wardens.
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>>171863353
>I got good rng on my game! You're just retarded
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>>171863079
Yeah this

Dodged a warden bash and was still Staggered
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>>171863331
Raider also has it
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>>171863497
If you get the graze stagger from the Warden bash, he can't follow up because he doesn't get the instant recovery.

Maybe graze stagger shouldn't be a thing? That way a near miss bash could possibly be punishable.
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>>171863452
What are you spending the steel you earned while leveling a hero to rep 3?
Don't tell me you spent it on, Cosmetics.
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>>171861420
>P-pro wardens don't rely on their vortex!
It's fucking sad how both of them are non stop trying to use their vortex and canceling out of it
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>>171863005
feats ruin any sense of skill
>>171863062
conq is easily worse
it's just shield bash then light
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>>171863573
Raider's is better because it works on side dashes, which lets him tech GBs mid-dash.

Among other things, this makes him immune to the Warden mixup since dodging is always the correct move.
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>>171863079
>tfw all wardens you meet are so hooked up on attacking playstyle that completely lose their shit when you go full offensive on them
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>>171863726
You can't do anything else in a Warden mirror because zone is punishable on block and top light is countered by top light.

The comment you're quoting applies to non-mirrors.
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>do pony emote
>get wow! in chat
truly the best character
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>>171863937
Warden's ZA got nice range tho
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>>171863673
I spent it on trying to get gear for other characters

So according to you, in order to not get destroyed by gear advantage, I have to not buy anything with the money I spend, and literally only use it for loot boxes for just 1 character?

Literally f2p tier game right there
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>>171863452
I'm not the other dude, bu it's really not that hard to get competitive gear. I'd argue that the hardest part of getting competitive gear is getting to rep 3 with shitty gear.

I think I spend more steel trying to be fashionable than anything else. It kinda sucks that I have to open 50 premium crates to get my gear to match, but I'm not gonna cry about it.
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>>171863937
>You can't do anything else
Right, who would ever risk just attacking from the side or GBing. Nope gotta rely on that vortex, but it's only in mirror matches, promise :^)
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>When you counter everything a Peacekeeper does and he just backs off with no clue what to do
>M-maybe another l-light attack will w-work!!!
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for the "best armour ever" the law sure has fucking shit armour when the fucking warlord gets hyper on his attacks.
pisses me off that a guy in full plate get fucking stunned like fuck and has no hyper other then "shove XDDD"

FIX THE GAME
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>>171863798
>play raider vs rep 6 orochi
>she doesn't know raiders timings
>keeps fucking up blocks and parrys
FEEL THE POWER OF RAIDER
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Yup, today is the day i stop autistically completing every single order since the betas.

Its been a thing.

Not like i need the XP anyway.
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>>171864309
warlord also has more fast attacks than roach
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>>171864071
>don't save up dosh to upgrade your hero when rep 3
>complain when you don't have cash money buy gear
Anon...

Devolopers designed the game around the idea that players would commit to 1~3 heroes at best.
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>>171864365
On the bright side you'll be able to offer the whatever mythic outfits the new characters get. I'm assuming they get their own, it would be a waste if they just got their factions mythic
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>>171864318
>duel a guy as LB
>starts off good, solid attack, solid defense from him, ggs all over the place
>ushual tactics, push his shit, alternate gb and longarm randomly with occasional parries and lights
>by the third round witness him turning into a nervous wreck, not being able to even block properly
>just ad mortem him a few times to end it all
Game is fun when nobody turtles
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>>171864096
Ugh this, by the time I had all the heroic sets and the unique wep my shubroki was almost rep 6
Super easy to get competive gear
Nightmare to collect them.
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>>171864257
>attacking from the side
With what? All of Warden's side attacks are so slow your grandmother could reaction parry them.

>GBing
>in high level gameplay
Oh okay, you just don't know what you're talking about.
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>>171864257
>Side light is 600ms and easy as shit to parry
>Throwing one out raw is just asking to eat a heavy
>They were throwing out neutral GBs

Are you pretending to be retarded or do you not understand that you are?
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>Being surprised that Warlord is, as the name suggests, indeed the lord of war
How retarded are you lol.
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I seriously fucking hate everything about the Warlord

The way he looks
The way he sounds
The way he plays
The faggots that play him

He was such a fucking mistake
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>>171864874
You don't even need to turtle to beat the shit out of LB, the guy was just bad at the game.
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>>171864998
see the post above you
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>>171864998
Top tier looks mate. Sounds like a high test guy doing high test things.
Get your pussy ass out of here and play your shitty Lawbringer or something.
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>>171864828
Wasn't there supposed to be new outfits today?
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>>171864998
>warlord flails around for a free roam heavy.
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>>171864998
>the only way to tell whether he's doing a light or heavy by startup is whether he does constipated grunts
>1 out of 10 time he just doesn't for no apparent reason; this also happens to other moves with distinct audio cues like Raider's ZA
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>Ubisoft Sale going on.
>See Division for 20$
>See Siege for 10$
Help. I have no friends to play these games with and I feel like I am gonna make huge mistake.
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>>171865058
He started off good, parrying when needed, cgbing every random gb, not getting caught by feints, etc.
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>>171864998
>The way he looks

he's the most Viking looking Viking lad what are you talking about
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>>171865204

Buy Siege

dont buy the division


Also dont buy Sieges starter edition
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>>171865204
Siege is good. Division is only good for taking screenshots because the map is gorgeous: the game is garbage.
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>>171864874
>dueling as LB, fight a warlord
>pretty nice, i'm parrying everything and punishing everything fairly consistently, top bonking as needed when he headbutts
>near winning he starts to just headbutt light spam , which he wins the round only doing, top bonks too slow to stop every one
>End up taking the next round through bonks
Winning against spam doesn't feel good to me no matter how good the match was before it. I just get angry
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>>171865328
I've actually heard good shit about Siege. Should I buy normal edition or Year 2 Gold?

Also I seriously don't have any friends to play with and I never use Mic so I feel for a team based strat game I'm gonna be fuck up for team. Also I use Controller and suck with mouse.
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>>171864998
>Tfw play Warlord because if my entire team shits the bed in elimination I can still lead the enemies to a ledge
I've gotten so much fucking hatemail from people who can't counter GB. I've literally lured 4 fucking people to a ledge and threw them off one by one as they tried hitting me, and then they act like the problem is with me and not their entire team being unable to press a fucking button to stop me
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>>171865392
mind you when I won it was because he fucked up the light confirm timing and i got a light parry ad mortem in the middle of that round
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>>171864701
>but here's challenges that encourage you to use other heroes

Rly mak me tink
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>>171865498
Siege is good, but it can be bad without friends because teamplay is the fucking key to winning. If you get shit teammates who shoot you when trying to kill the enemy, refuse to reinforce, or drop armor for the team you're gonna have a bad time
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>>171865498
i just bought the year 2 gold one myself just now. it gets to a point where you hear about a fucking game everywhere so you just need to get it.

but i have no doubt i will get absolutely shit on by 1000hr playtime degens who know every place you can shoot through a wall and where to put all the gizmos

i am actually intimidated by this one and i consider myself great at fps games. will be hours of bot training before i get the balls to get wrecked by some fucking nerds in this.
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>>171865498

Normal edition and if I think they sell an year 1 operator bundle try buying that
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>>171865498
>>171865681
>>171865807

>giving ubisoft more money

fuck off shills
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It shouldnt make me annoyed but when the opponent says ''Good fight!'' when I get destroyed it just makes me mad
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>>171865940
how dare we talk about things we enjoy
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>>171865940

Siege is actually good senpai a lam
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>Trackmania is also on sale.
>So is EDF.
>Had fun with AC:U for first 6 hours at friend's house.
I really get fucking anxious if I have any money on wallet. Should probably wait for summer sale in 100 days and add 100 extra $ by then.

>>171865783
Wew Siege seems like a really hard purchase desu. Well It's not like sale is ending anytime soon.

>>171865807
Only available with Complete Edition. Don't have enough money for that.

>>171865940
I .. . unironically like Ubisoft. Mostly because they actually put game at lower prices for us third worlders.
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>>171865392
Its always like this: when they start losing - they go for either dirty stuff or turtling
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>>171864365
I only completed all of them for the first two days. Now I only do the two dailies... once in three days.
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>>171866125
>Not taking the AD MORTEM on the dash parry

shitty d e s u
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>>171864828
>outfits
>worth the steel
>worth the effort
>worth anything
na
>>
did any new outfits get added today?
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>>171866340
>3 patterns
>an ornament
>symbols

it's a bundle of cosmetics
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>>171866340
My Kensei's cherry blossoms were worth every scrap of steel

Everytime I insert my Nodachi into their spine and cherry blossoms fly out I feel happy
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>>171866245
Sorry about that senpai. I actually suck at parrying. Can't even parry top lights.

Also would turning off v-sync help, I heard it adds in input lag? I play in borderless windowed mode if it's anything.
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>>171866245
Dont they go as heavies?
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>>171866827
not him but if i turn vsync off i get massive screen tears even if capping the fps to 60
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>>171865328
>>171865352
Isn't The Division good now? People were saying they fixed pretty much everything, but it's too little too late.
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>>171867206
Berserker, Orochi, Kensei, and Valk dash attacks are lights. PK's is a heavy.

I think that's all right but I could be wrong about Kensama and Valk on account of never playing them. Whatever input you use to do the attack denotes if It's heavy or light.
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>>171867509
Kensei's are lights
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>>171836906
>tfw you fell in love with a game
>childhood nostalgia and stuff
>company goes bankrupt
>now Ubisoft has the rights
>shit out sequels in increasingly worse quality
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>171867509
>PK is already the best Assassin
>But she also has the safest/least punishable dash attack because you can't maximum damage riposte her

Seems fair.
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>>171867458

Its a shit MMO it was never good
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Okay after playing both an Assassin and Heavy in Dominion, I'm 100% certain that Assassins only get 0.5 point/sec when they stand on point while heavies get 1 point/sec.

I always get someone spazzing out when people aren't on point. I think someone posted a video showing that everyone earned the same, but that is a straight up lie.
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>>171838580
That's so fucking horrible, Ubisoft is considering to implement just that.
>>
Reminder that PK isn't getting nerfed because L E G E N D A R Y is her counter.
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Is there a way to ledge your own teammates?

Does valk's sweep do the job?
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>>171868156
Shugar Bear's charge can push team mates over. I don't know if it can put them over ledges.
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>>171868156
I don't think you can. Even shug can't push teammates with his charge. You really have to get thrown into them by the enemy to teamkill with the environment.
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>>171867887
If you read your character's movelist, the very first thing they tell you in your character's passives is how they gain extra renown. Generally:
>Heavies tend to gain more renown by holding points and reviving/assisting allies.
>Vanguards get more points by clearing minions and fighting while outnumbered.
>Assassins get more points for 1v1s and killing enemy heroes.
>Hybrids get no bonus - they earn renown from everything equally.
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>>171867887
Limitbreaker did a big autistic video about it, with renown and score n shit.
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>>171868357
Are you sure Shug can't bowl over team mates? I swear to god that happened on the Dev livestream: They were playing brawls and a shug knocked n0tal3nt on his ass and got him killed.
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>>171868156
>>171868309
>>171868357
>>171868550
shugoki can absolutely knock over teammates, but you can't knock your teammates off ledges

t. shugoki who does it all the time because its funny to me
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>People sperg out constantly about steel in /fhg/
>/fhg/ constantly spergs out about reddit sperging out about steel
??
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>>171868695

Since its a dumb thing to complain about when the game needs technical and game fixes
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>>171868672
>>171868550
Sorry, I meant that shug can't push teammates over ledges but he can definitely knock teammates down just like valk's sweep.
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>knights speak latin
>vikings speak norse
>samurai speak japanese

>knight names are in english
>viking names are in english
>samurai names are in japanese

???
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>>171838580
>ninja has a kusarigama
>centurion has gladius and
>highlanders sword is significantly longer than wardens
>>
>getting ready for brawl match
>shitposting in /fhg/ while waiting
>pick law
>load in, i picked peacekeeper
>apparently i accidentally touched the controller stick and hit x on pk

What's the most painful way to commit suicide?
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>>171868996
Ninja has 2 Kasurigama, and the chains aren't loosened so likely no throwing. They're an awful lot like twin axes, don't you think?
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>>171868893
It's cultural appropriation if we don't use japanese names for japanese characters! Don't be such a bigot anon!
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>>171868893
The weeb names are also the names English speakers would use to refer to the titles.
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>>171868156
If you have a bomb
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>>171869175
It's just 2 kama.
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I just randomly got rewarded with a pre-order bonus outfit. Any particular thing I should know about?

I didn't pre-order.
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>>171868156
If you throw an enemy into a teammate, it counts as a hostile knockback and can punt them into hazards or off ledges.
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>>171868996
>>171869175
>>171869257


Ninja has a Kama with chains

Centurion is a little weird tottaly has a gladius but he has no shield many speculate he has a cestus which is a leather glove of sorts

Highlander with a claymore would be awesome
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>>171869175
>Kusarigama is one of my favorite weapons
>It's never in any games
>For honor's ninja is just going to use dual kamas, the chain may as well not be there
>We could have gotten a fast version of conq with an extra weapon instead of a shield, instead we get zerker 2.0

At least I still have nioh. I hate the ninja aesthetic anyway
>>
>>171869609
>tfw the caestus speculation has no proof and is pure theorycrafting
>tfw i started it by talking about how it would be neat to have a character fight with a shortsword and an open hand and finishing off combos with an uppercut and shit

just the idea of a character doing these quick, short range combos and mixing in left hooks sounds rad. i guess you could get near the same thing if they had a small shield, and used it to strike.
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>>171869609

I think I see a sword hilt in his hand
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>>171869903

His right hand is in a fist shape of sorts
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C O S T U M E S
N E V E R
E V E R
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What's the most min-maxed combination of two here?
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>>171870394
the last one obviously, its the fastest in both categories

what site is that btw?
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>>171870394
I'm seeing a lot of Wardens running Spinning Decapitation nowadays.
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>>171870394
Spinning Decap for executing during team fights
Hilt for HP regen if you're safe to take the execute.

>>171870549
I run it because it looks cool.
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>>171870510
leddit/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/6132bk/executions_time_it_takes_to_kill_your_enemy/
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>>171870586
do different executions give different health back? i've never really paid attention
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>>171869219

That was the shittiest webm I've seen in a long time.
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>>171870835
Health gained is based on total time, but you gain it once the enemy is killed. I'm not sure just how big of a difference it makes though
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>>171870835
Its proportional to length. I'm pretty sure it's overall animation length, too, not ttk, but thats purely anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt.
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Fuck i'm tired of being shit in duels.

I really just don't feel like playing anything other than law for some reason.

Wish they would just change his guard change speed (after to the first change) for the time being
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>>171871009
>>171871020
interesting, so you should use a longer execution in brawls to get most health back when the other guy isnt ganking
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>>171871009
>>171871020
Sounds about right. LB's The Impaler is the fastest TTK in the game but still heals like fucking 3 bars.
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>>171862428
>>171862978
Play Dominion, find a buddy, do nothing but superset gank and talk shit on chat.
LB is all about mind games.
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>>171870910
What? He asked a question and had a related webm.
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>>171871140
In Dominion and Skirmish, enemy respawn time only starts after the full execute animation finishes. If you know you're safe, going for long executions keeps the enemy out of action longer.
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>>171871258

I think you messed up that post.
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>dont pick Nobushi for like a fucking month
>decide to play it again a bit
>up against a rank 6 berserker
>absolutely clown on him and he ragequits after Wow! spamming

After playing Lawbringer to rank 3 this shit is like taking off my weighted training gi, holy fuck.
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>>171871370

I take it back.
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>>171871381
How so?
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>>171868893
Because if translated the samurai names would sound retarded:
>snake
>female warrior

And Scandinavian names are unpronounceable for 80% of the rest of the world.
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Good lord, I've been practising for entire fortnight now and I still can't parry lights. The only time they happen is if I get lucky. :(

How do I get better reaction time for parries other than just keep playing an keep losing.
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>the way Warden walks
>that fucking zone
Why is this faggot so disrespectful?
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>>171872209
i find that to parry pk/orochi/valk/zerk lights you need to do it at the VERY start of their attack
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>>171868156
here
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>>171872436
>those shoulders

what are they called?
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>>171872582
Lion I think.
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>>171871467
You're fucking cancer
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>>171872436
>not spamming back to your buddy cop

Got a good kek out of me though
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>>171871971
And you don't want sick Latin names?

They should all be in the language of the people they represent. Makes it cooler that way.
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>>171872419
I really mean it in general. I know a mate who can parry Lights of any and all classes. Says he has always been this good .I just wish I could in general parry those 15/30 frame attack, of Warden/Orochi and other lights in general.

WebM Related, game seriously needs better wall execution. It annoys me whenever body of opponent clips through them. Then again these new execution would probably cost 15k steel because new executions. Also can they add in Circle button for like new environmental executions. Basically your guy would just auto-ledge, or throw person to the closest wall of some heavy execution, or chuck them to spikes/saw in brutal fashion.
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>>171872680
aye lad if you play anything but the literal worst character in the game youre clearly cancer
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>>171872878

Nobushi has great animations I love seeing her in motion
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>>171872878
No it's just nobushi are cancer
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>>171872967
I think almost all of the characters have really really good animations and really just seeing characters fight is the coolest shit to me even after playing the game every day since release. The animators did such a fantastic job with this game, I really hope it gets the patches it deserves before it dies out entirely.

Exceptions to the rule are stuff like some of peacekeeper's lights/zone looking like shes just awkwardly fumbling her swords in front of her despite them hitting so hard.

>>171873118
Acquire proficiency.
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>>171871258

PK has the fastest in the game.
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>>171872878
>Not taking the side heavy dash for the execute

>>171873118
She's easily low tier. You're just bad.
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some people never learn
>weeb
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>>171873203

How did ubisoft get the animations for the heroes anyway?
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>>171873259
fuerte was low tier but he was still cancer
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>>171873249
PK's fastest Execution TTK is 1.5 seconds, The Impaler is 1.2
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>>171873203
>He parries your top when you're out of stamina.
>Doesn't go for Ad-Mortem but instead Quick Bonk.

As a lawbringer main. I want to meet this person. Then Choo-Choo him off the ledge, while taking away his rights to ever play Lawbringer.
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>>171872805
Conqueror>Custodian
Sounds really menacing.

Also that's specifically why I didn't mention Knights or Latin.
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>>171873315

Nevermind, TTK. I'm an idiot.
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>>171873452
Custodian is Warden, not Conqueror.
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>>171873312
Mocap
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>>171873425
It's really easy to look at webms and see every mistake the players are making but when you are playing an intense match yourself and you have to be the one doing the inputs it's easy to make a wrong decision or input error.
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>>171873203
>>171873259
>g-git gud
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>>171873881
Oh, I know that. It's just that's that was a really big mistake there. Your stamina had been down for a long time and I think he even baited you for a successful parry when you were out of stam.

Oh and watching webm's make me feel like shit in general because I see light attacks coming from mile away. While playing, 100% fuckup rate.
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I heard the conq can negate warden bash with full block? Can Warlord do that too?
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>>171873912
>>171873313
there are characters that can definitely be unfun to fight with their mixups that are just straight up 50/50 guesses (like shugoki) or are too fast to reliably react to (like peacekeeper). Nobushi has neither of these and every time you get hit by her it is because of a mistake you made.

So yes, literally get better at the game. I don't mean to be insulting at all but if you play more and fight more Nobushis you will see how easy she is to deal with, and how much worse it is to deal with other characters.

>>171874120
Probably just muscle memory honestly, a lot of times I press something when I really really wanted to press something else that I'd been baiting for and then I lose off of it and beat myself up over it for the rest of the hour.
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>>171872209
50% luck, 50% reading your opponent's patterns.
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>>171874320
>I heard the conq can negate warden bash with full block? Can Warlord do that too?
I thought it was an unblockable attack
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>>171874320
no
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>>171874397
>50% luck 50% reads

>not 10% luck
>20% skill
>15% concentrated power of will
>5% pleasure
>50% pain
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>>171874320
>>171874403
He means the double side light followup after the bash.

Go look at Conqueror's Advanced Gameplay video in-game, he can cancel stagger into fullblock.

This lets him block the followup side lights from Warden Shoulder Bash, the followup stab from Warlord Headbutt, the followup stab from Nobushi Kick, etc.
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>orochi top light still hits you if you side dodge
epic
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>>171874397
>12 in ther morning pop shells for a living

what
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>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Thanks!
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>>171874908
>not knowing you can only send 3 messages before hitting a cooldown
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Nobushi's are fucking cancer I swear
They keep bleeding me with their zones

MY NOBUSHIS ARE DOING THIS
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>>171874908
>Point A
>GO
>GO
>Please wait before sending more messages

I just want to operate operationally.
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>>171873708
>someone had to mocap lawbringers pony emote.
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>>171875062
nobushi's zone doesn't poison you.

it DOES do fifty fucking damage if you are poisoned already, though.
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>tfw you may be the reason for hundreds of people ragequitting and leaving the game forever because you played warlord and cheesed everyone with infinite headbutts and environmental kills
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>>171874393
Good luck doing this with someone as shit as conq m8
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How many times has this happened to you
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>>171875149
I've tied a couple duels before, but never seen that. Is that when you double KO on a 2/2 match?
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>>171875149
kill each other at the last round?
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>>171874393

Nobushi's lights are the same frames as PK's first lights though.
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>>171875218
>>171875232
Yeah. I thought Nobushi's heavy would land quicker than mine but in the end we just killed each other.
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>slapping a pks shit in a duel
>she's basically dead, no health left and shes barely touched me
>gb and throw her over a ledge
>Wow!
>Wow!
>leaves

Never played a game with a more salty player base
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>>171875463
Only her side lights.
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just got a bunch of outfits for "preorder"
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>>171874520

And 100% reason to remember the name.
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>>171874908
>Ledge someone multiple times as Warlord
>WOW
>WOW
>WOW
>After the game they send me hatemail, telling me I'm bad and completely ignoring the fact that they can't counter GB
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>>171875545
did you get a border too?
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>>171875463
yeah but the subsequent hits come out a lot faster, and nobushi doesn't have an absurdly fast zone attack with a bugged indicator that is extremely difficult to react to.
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>4v4 with salty opponents
>Be Warlord
>I'm the last one alive in my team, 1 in theirs too
>Guy kills me from above while I successfully resurrect rrect a teammate
>My teammate loses, 0v1, they won
>"I am done here"
>tfw I wake up, Warlord feat 4
>Revive my teammate
>We win
>"BULLSHIT REVIVE FUCK THIS CHARACTER"
Honestly I was confused myself at first, I tend to forget about that feat.
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>>171875542
which is what nobushis use, obviously
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>>171875773
The revive feat is pretty broken especially considering you can literally jump off a ledge to kill yourself and come back with full health, and depending where you jumped revive close to a buff.

Though revives in general are broken in elimination.
>Beating my opponent pretty badly
>We're the same speed, so they have no chance of running away
>They roll away and leap down a ledge to kill themselves to deny me the execution in hopes someone will revive them
It's fucking annoying
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>>171875879
they are slower, and good nobushi will never use her lights
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>>171872209

Do what I did a sit in Bot L.3 practice mode for two hours with that fucking Valkyrie. You'll learn.>>171872418
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>>171876237
what are they supposed to use, exactly?
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>>171876284
heavies
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>>171876284
A good Nobushi would never attack first, obviously. What, you're supposed to attack in For Honor? That's how you get parried bitch.
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>>171876381
>A good nobushi
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>kensei has more range then lawbringer

GG ubi
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>>171876823
He's using a pollax, not a halberd.
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>>171876237

That No True Scotsman argument is gonna go down the ol' shitter when the Highlander comes around.
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>>171874520
>Implying not 100% Gods will
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Hello i didn't play and lurked for 1 week, did they announce the new balance patch yet ?
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>>171879192
yes, everything is fixed now, they nerfed pk, and the viking maps have been added back in

have fun
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>>171870394
hp gained is based off of full animation time, so having a higher kill time is pretty much always bad

GtC is the safest if you just want to avoid being hit, but only slightly more than SD
HS is the best if you want as much health as possible
BS and SD are the safest if you just want to avoid having your victim saved, with BS leaning towards giving you more health, and SD leaning towards letting you defend yourself earlier

BS is arguably the most minmiaxed single option, but since you can carry two I'd go with SD and HS for options.

GtC only ends like three frames earlier than SD, but executes almost thirty frames later. Generally speaking your quick execution is also going to be the one where you really want to execute early as well, because there's probably another enemy nearby if you aren't using your longer execution, which once again makes GtC look bad. Just generally speaking, ensuring you opponent doesn't get saved is more important than ensuring you don't get hit. SD also moves you forward, which is helpful.

Overall I would just say don't use GtC; the only scenario where you'd want to use it is if you somehow knew you opponent wouldn't be able to hit you before 3.51 seconds had passed, but also that they would be able to hit you before 3.58 seconds had passed. That's a 0.07 second window callout. If they end up outside that at all, there's no reason to not just use SD, so just use SD.

BS is arguably good, but if you already have SD for speed (it's faster), you may as well use HS and sacrifice some kill time for a larger full animation (t's longer). If you're willing to spend a whole 4.2 seconds in an animation anyway, an extra tenth of a second's worth of kill time probably won't be a big deal because you're probably alone.
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>main LB
>see everyone complaining about PK
>three parrys and she is gone
So... what's the big deal?
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>>171880479
lawbringer can potentially kill a warlord in three parries (as well as any other hero who isn't shugoki), and warlord is easier to parry than peacekeeper

peacekeeper is officially more OP than warlord everyone
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>>171879508
it's rude to lie
>>171880479
have fun getting those three parrys, also she does more or equal damage to you with alot more speed
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>Parry a PK zone
>She techs it

I'm PISSED
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Is there anything more cancerous than a shugoki who only fights you by sprinting towards you, doing either his charge, or GB, and then runs away only to repeat?
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>>171880479
If she's trash, spam and dash-attack - yeah, maybe. If she mixup, feint and backdash with zone cancel - good luck to get your parries dude.
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>>171881194
>Go PK against her in the rematch
>I'm a fucking level 2 PK
>Shes Rep 7
>3\1 her

Why are PK mains so garbage?
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>>171881447
>Unironically buttmad about shuggie of all things
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>>171881447
thats his only offense against high level players
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>4v4
>PK activates revenge
>tries to spin2win every time
>mfw I parry it every time
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I thought THE LAW was supposed to be shit. He's been my best character so far.
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>Roach that does nothing but spam zone
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>>171882312
And it gets you everytime like you're a fucking retard.
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>Upcoming global event
>Reward: 2K
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>>171882306
Law has no aggression. He's a parrygod though: Lights>AD MORTEM is sic
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>>171882707
I sure can't wait to help complete a few million dominion/skirmish matches!
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>>171882306
Don't listen to salty weebs and neckbeards and keep impaling those faggots off ledges, deus vult.
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>start playing Warlord
Well, I guess I can just throw people off ledges through the map.
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>Want to get multiple characters to rep three
>It takes so many fucking hours to get there, and the most exp modes are 4v4 which you get stomped for being below rep 3
Gear was a mistake
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>>171882306
I play LB and I can't play anything else. It feels like I'm swimming with my clothes on when I'm anything else.
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>just got my first character to reputation 1

Fairly new to the game and it feels good. Do I gain reputation every 20 levels again?
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>>171857504
I think if time runs out and you haven't selected a hero it'll just auto select the one you played last.
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>>171882597
it because that stupid indicator glitch, as a law i have no hope to block that shit
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>there will never be a stone material for knights
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Are the connections significantly worse today for anyone else?
>Several minutes searching for a game in 4v4 modes
>Freezes and resynches a couple times when we finally get in
>Game crashes all together after the second buffering
I'm on xbone by the way
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>>171882306
he's good for light parries, assuming you can do so with his slow guard change speed

he also has 150 health, inferior only to shugoki

throw distance is decent

anything else he has is done equal or better by nearly any other character
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>>171883238
For what purpose?
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>>171883238
Actually, there could be. They said 'more everything' for the DLC waves at the end of each season. Materials sounds not out of possibility.
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>>171883238
>Use stone armor
>Get blown the fuck out even harder than platefag by blunt weaponry
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>>171883238
>There will never be a leper class with a female option
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Game keeps throwing me against Rep 2 players and I'm only level 5.
Life is hard, guys.
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>>171837318
>having jungle fever
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>>171881862

All PKs go through the phase of losing their grasp of the fundamentals because the class can be so brain dead. The ones that keep their fundamentals sharp are terrifying.
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>>171883450
>inferior only to shugoki
though the damage debuff when hyper armor is not up for fat boi makes that effective health seem tiny
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>>171883568
Explain gold armor then
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>>171872582
Tical with lion engraving
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>vanguard order
>fighting a raider a couple times in elim
>wreck him whenever we're matched
>surprisingly, runs to the sprint boost with his sprint-speed gear & leaves at 1 bar every time
Wait a minute
>he was black
That was a PK main, wasn't it?
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>>171883418
Getting it on PS4, too.
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>you can parry crushing counter strike
I don't even know.
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>>171884157
Had an orochi do that but then again, what else is new
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>>171883796
I won't, it's retarded.
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Like ashes, coming out of the chimney
Like a thousand souls, burning
Like so many gods people, deserving
The dust was scattered away quickly
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>>171883796
>>171884528
It's gold plated.
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>>171884362
Isn't it assassin exclusive?
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Raiders, go fuck yourselves
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>>171884667
I don't know. I didn't even know it was possible.
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>>171884667
>>171884894
PK and roach only
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They need to write some new fucking music for this game, that relentless drumbeat grind my balls
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>Rep 9 Kensei
>Decide to play Warden to rep 3 because he looks cool
>Can't play Kensei anymore
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>playing as law
>up against valk, pk or conq
>die a little inside
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Do Contract Orders reset in 9 hours or in 33? I'm not joking when I say my game is bugged and the timer is quite literally not there.
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>Playing elimination
>Everyone on the enemy team has been executed except one Roach
>We're chasing him all over the map and he's just stopping to grab as many buffs as we can
>Finally catch up and bash his ass to the Conq
>Teammates jump in, Roach with an attack boost immediately gets revenge
>He kills me and one other teammate right away because of the insane damage boost
>Roach starts fighting third guy
>Spectate to try and see where our 4th guy is at
>It's a Warden and he's running over towards us, our bodies are dead ahead of him
>Signal for a revive, the Roach is busy with our other teammate so he can revive the both of us easy
>Runs straight past our bodies and tries to gank, giving the Roach revenge
>ARMY OF ONE DUDE LMAO WHO NEEDS REVIVES
>Instantly dies
I fucking hate these people so fucking much
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>>171885279
Dailies refresh daily, contracts refresh every 2 days
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why do they keep doing this?
haven't we grew out of it?
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>>171885238
I don't have problems parryng Valk lights, but conq fucks my shit up everytime.
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>>171885341
I know
This doesn't answer my question though
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>4v4 orders
>Every fucking matches by the time I was about to get THE final hit on my opponent something fucked me in the ass, would it be some gay ass kunai, a jumping PK or a warden zoning

I don't know what it is, but as far as 4v4 is concerned I seem to attract the biggest nuisances every time.
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>>171885416
>Warlord

OUT
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>>171885493
maybe it's because i'm bad but atleast on ps4 i can barely block them let alone parry them, it's even worse because the attacks that give you a free guardbreak when blocked don't work on lb as it shoves them instead
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>>171885416
Why is Warlord's parry animation so goofy? Never mind the fact he has a fuckhuge shield and decides to parry with his tiny ass sword instead, but then he just flails his arms in excitement because it worked.

Looks ridiculous.
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Well I'm bored and putting together a PK salt/retardation collage, any submissions?
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>>171885598
what makes you think either timer is wrong
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Are PKs, nobushi and orochi the cancer of the game?
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Ohn mein got
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>>171886373
Nobushi is fine except for the fact that you cant GB him after a parry
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>>171886325
Are you dense?

I literally only have one timer right now, the dailies timer. Two if you count the Event timer.

There is no timer for my Contract Orders. Its just not there. Restarting isn't fixing it.

So I'll ask again: when are the Contract Orders resetting?
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>>171886478
>him

out
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>>171886441
that's a lot of AFKfarming
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>>171886373
>nobushi
Nigga, nobushi are considered alright to shit-tier
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>>171886441
Are you shitting because of his Rep? When you're only 5 below him? And there are a good handful of people already at 30?
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>>171886539
Here's Nobushi unmasked
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>>171886506
wow rude
Now I won't tell you
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>>171886373
Nobushi and Orochi are gimmick classes. Get past the gimmick and you eat them.

PK, you may as well just kill yourself if they know what they're doing.
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>4v4 is just full of gank squads

wow so fun
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So this is more or less optimal, right?

Only thing I'm considering is whether or not the block damage/resistance stats are actually worth bothering with.
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>>171885949
i am learning him, you should too
learn heroes you consider op
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>>171886750
Stop running off alone. Or not be shit and get wiped out so you spawn at different times.
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So when do I start getting all this purple gear and shit?
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>>171887005
Rep 3.
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>>171887005
Rep 3
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>>171887005
Rep 3
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>>171887005
Rep 3
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>>171886981
I don't run off alone, I stay and fight the person I'm paired with that round. More often than not, they immediately run off to gank someone else.
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>>171887005
Rep 3
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>>171887005
Rep 3
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>>171887123
Rep 3
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>>171887005
Rep 3
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>try to guardbreak me with your back to a ledge
>get mad at me when I cgb and you fall off the side

come on senpai
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>>171887237
Rep 3
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>>171887005
Rep 2
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>>171838386
Put kensei in C teir.
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Did they fuck with the drop rate to try to encourage people to buy steel?
>When the game released I got my main up to rep 4 and every drop was purple, and every item in a loot box was purple
>Now I've got my secondary to rep 4 and I'm regularly getting blues from matches, and every loot box there's only the 1 or two guaranteed higher grade items that are purple
Is anyone else experiencing this? I wouldn't put it past them to act like kikes to try to sell steel
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>>171887005
Rep 3.0
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>>171838470
Go to sleep redhead tom the orbiter's gonna smash you
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>>171882946
>Finally take C on Overwatch
>Rest of the round is just ledgethrowing people that want to retake C
>750 score just with that
GG
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>>171887005
Rep 2+1
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>>171887570
she is asleep
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>>mfw turtling has gotten so bad my teammates won't even move to attack someone from rezzing their ally
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>>171887625
the maps have names?
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>>171887759
>We still willingly play this game
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>Blood Spider outfit for warden
wow

these patterns actually feel really nice

i never actually checked them out because they werent the mythic/elite outfits but the Blood Spider patterns look really nice on Warden.
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>>171887912
I disagree.

You know what outfit is the single most aesthetic thing Warden can wear? The Rep 28 Outfit, The Mountaineer. Shit is fucking FIRE.
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>>171887005
Rep san
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>>171887850
Yes.

Overwatch is the one where point C is such a clusterfuck people forget point A exists.
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I fucking hate this stupid fucking game
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>>171852598
GB>Change Guard>L/H Attack

All at incredible hihg speeds

Some heroes show more GB animation than others.
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>>171888070
i always just camp A like and wait in the shadows like im some npc final boss
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>>mfw imba PK literally assassinated the game
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Why fuck was some Raider able to heal an entire fucking the second he drops his guard? I hit him, he steps back, heals for more than I deal, it was fucking insane, what bullshit feat is this?
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>>171888416
Reminds me of Phantom in Dirty Bomb tbqh

Took them so long to finally fix the fucker and when they did, they neutered him so bad that he's STILL trash in the game.
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>>171888556
Second Wind. Vanguard feat, all three of them can use it in slot 3. I think Lawbringer can use it too since he's a Vanguard hybrid.

4 charges of healing about a bar and a half on a short cooldown. When they run out of charges it goes on a very long cooldown.
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Any tips for Nobushi?
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>>171888905
>>171888556
That feat is so fucking broken in 4v4 modes, especially elimination. All they have to do is have high revenge gain, defense, and feat cool down and they become unkillable fucking tanks
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>tfw I still haven't picked a main
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>>171888905
Jesus Christ

Just when I think I'm getting good with my conq I learn new shit. And even then all he has is block into GB into light to spam over and over.
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>>171889030

Ya it is a stupidly strong feat.
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>>171889030
Well, make them use it 4 times and they're out.

It's also a tier 3 feat so it's not like they have access to it in the first few rounds unless your team is losing horribly anyway.

>>171889107
Meanwhile Conqueror heals off blocks without even needing to disengage.
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>>171889302
>Meanwhile Conqueror heals off blocks without even needing to disengage.

Or, conq's only other thing - deal damage through blocked attacks. Can't have both.
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>13 eliminations in an elim match
>still lose
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>>171858819

The advantage of plate is that it's weight is well allocated. the armor on your arm is not only supported by your arm, but also the shoulder because it's linked to the pauldron. Same thing with leg armor and your waistband.

It's not only the total weight, but where is this weight. And on that matter, plate is more practical.
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>>171889413
That's when enemies block you, not when you block enemies. It's a useless feat and not competitive with heal on block.

If you want more damage from feats, you use the tier 2 feat that makes your shield bashes deal damage.
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>>171838386
>it's another "Raider is better than Lawbringer, but no one will explain how" episode
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>>171887447
Nah, its always been like this.
Just that rng can be shit most of the time.
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>>171856080
>>171857687
>>171858819
>>171889490
You know, something as simple as wearing a belt already dramatically improves the weight distribution of a mail hauberk.
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>>171889542
Why complain? It's the most obvious sign that you're talking to a retard.

Raider and LB are the two worst heroes in the game but LB wishes he had half the tricks Raider does.
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error'd matchmaking on dominion, skirmish and brawl. I just want to play something with other people rather than duel. but my days off work are fucked so no one's playing in NZ atm, I need an american to host for me so i can play.

Uplay: TheLovelyBison
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>>171889542
Raider has a kara cancel that's actually intended and in his movelist.
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>>171844502
>infinite
Just dodge, nerd.
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>>171889731
I'd say they're even as far as "tricks" go.
Raider can feint like a motherfucker but aside of cancelling his side heavy into a top light he got jack fucking shit.

Lawbringer can capitalize on his blocks and parry but that doesn't mean shit either.

That's about it.
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>>171889505
>That's when enemies block you, not when you block enemies. It's a useless feat and not competitive with heal on block.

I know, I know, but I always used it because I thought, hey, might as well do some damage instead of none. But that's reserved for spamming GB+light like an absolute shitter.
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>>171889910
Just the existence of stunning tap and unblockable zone makes Raider better.

Yeah at high level play they're both useless but Raider is good at stomping noobs. LB can't even do that.
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>>171889302
>Well, make them use it 4 times and they're out.
By the time they've healed once or twice they've taken enough damage/blocked enough to get revenge and two shot you
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>>171890081
LB stomps noobs who can't tech GBs.
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>>171890137
But so does every class.
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>>171890137
Anybody can stomp noobs who can't tech GBs lol LB doesn't do it any better than anyone else
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>>171890081
>Unblockable zone
Literally "get your ass parried", unless you feint, which nobody with a brain will fall for and just dodge since it's as slow as your mother getting out of bed.
Its only use is if you've guardbroken someone and even then it's better to just start going to town on them with regular attacks.
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>>171890391
nice reading comprehension
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holy shit berzerker is fun to play as. his stamina practically unlimited and you dash around at 100mph. I've never had better scores, maybe wardens just boring as fuck
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>>171890465
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>>171890469
I've also been enjoying zerk, you try a trap/cooldown build yet?
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>Get matched against a PK that's below rep 1
>Figure this won't be too bad
>Light spam everywhere and feinting nonstop, throwing in zones out of nowhere
How does anyone keep up with this shit?
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Guys, what if the new elite outfit for Warden has Daubeny's wings included? I'm really curious as to what the new outfits are. I think Reddit scared them into not fucking releasing them today. Thanks, Reddit.
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>>171886950
Whats the point of 'learning' hero that have no weaknesses?
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>>171890662
I still have no equipment or anything, I just started using him. I'm still getting a feel for him and his move set, nobody can block those side dash lights its crazy.
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>>171890793
There's only one day of the week that i manage to parry her lights constantly.
The rest of the days i caan barely block them. I guess the only thing we can do is keep on playing till it clicks permanently.
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>>171890809
They should be scared not to release them. The emotes they released are subpar and cost so fucking fucking coins.
And their reason for them being so expensive "We see a lot of people are holding onto their steel, so we're trying to get them to spend it"

They're literally admitting to overpricing shit because they don't like that people are holding onto their steel instead of spending it constantly and buying it.
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>>171889671
>>171889671
ho yes, It help with the floppy part. Peoples with belt everywhere seem to do ok with mail. but it's still look like a pain in the ass.
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You get to change the genders of the classes. Flip them, gender lock others, etc. What are they?
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>>171891110
>And their reason for them being so expensive "We see a lot of people are holding onto their steel, so we're trying to get them to spend it"

This can't be true, I'm not holding on my jewcoins because my name is Sheckelberg, I'm holding onto them to buy one of the ovepriced 15 fucking K outfits.
Don't they realize just how long it is to grind one of these when the most lucrative gamemodes hands out 45~ steel a match?
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>>171891214
Law is dude
PK is dudette
Warlord is dude
Valk is dudette
Shugoki is dude
Nobushi is dudette

All the others can be flipped
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>>171891214
female warlord, make it super sexy too, basically Xena
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>>171891110
Yeah. It's stupid of them not to release them.

>INB4 they save it for "next week's content"
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>>171891214
Make everyone male, make Shugo female. That's all.
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>>171891214
>female LB and shugoki

THICC
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>>171891214
I just want a female lawbringer option
>tfw no 6'10" monster of a woman who has to stuff her massive tits into her breastplate
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r8 my team-playing BombBringer
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>>171891214
half can be flipped, half cant; half of those which can't are male, the remaining half is female

Law, Lord, and Shugo are male
PK, Valk, and Nobu are female
The remainder can be either
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>>171891167
Not only floppy part, it also lets your hips support the weight as well, not only your shoulders.
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>>171889030
Its not broken at all, vanguards have very fair feats for their class-mechanics, meanwhile shugoki and warlord got some fucking crazy-ass passives which makes them receive no damage and have elephant-tier health points pool. Assassins got their feats a little bit overpowered too.
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>ubishit is killing the player base off with bad decisions
>eventually the game will be dead enough for ubishit to lose interest
>game has a season pass for a year of content
>once ubishit gives up because not enough players to cash grab from, the devolpers will have free reign to make the game good

im excited fhg, going to have a nap for 3 months
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>kill a rep 4 shugoki as zerker
>he leaves as I execute him

Why go into duels if you're going to leave after a single fight? I can sorta understand at the end of a match, but a single fucking round? Come on, son.
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>>171891771
I've taken to leaving every game if I'm fighting a berserker. I just can't beat them.
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>>171891771
People are autistic about their win/loss. When they see they can't win they just give up since there's no punishment for leaving and it keeps their win/loss looking decent
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>>171891961
Yeah, but at least play out the match, You might win the next three, and even if you don't you still get to have the fun of actually playing the game instead of going right back into a queue.

Besides, W/L only counts match completions, not rounds. K/D counts everything, but is also 3 times or so as resistant to change.

>>171891936
You don't learn to beat something by quitting my dude. If you care about your stats, at least wait until the match is about up before you hit the road. You get to practice without hurting your stats.
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>>171891961
But real talk the fuck does it matter?
It's not like people actively check out your stats, and if you're the one who show it to them they'll just go "yeah cool dude" to be polite but 5 minutes laters they don't give a shit anymore and just forget.
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When the fuck are they going to bring back the viking map.
Jesus pull your thumbs out of your ass ubisoft
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>>171886596
its the first time i've seen one that high for myself.
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>>171891771
Because they got pissed off if they missed a couple of tiny timings and got punished for it to their death. Its sometimes frustrate people to lose only because of 1 or 2 mistakes.
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>>171893008
High Fort sucks dick and only maximum ledge fags like it.
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>>171893129
I don't care I just want to see SOMETHING else than the two same fucking maps
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>>171892220
>>171892320
Ultimately win/loss doesn't matter, but some autists simply like looking at it and thinking how good they are, or they can put it on their stream/youtube videos to show how cool and good they are.

I'm not even sure why win/loss is a thing right now considering you can fluff it by playing bot matches which are near impossible to lose, or just quit any fight you are gonna lose. If you wanted to be autistic enough you could make a second account and leave every game you ever are about to lose and keep a perfect 100% win ratio
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>>171893189
Citadel is best map
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>>171893112
>Losing to 'zerk from 1 or 2 mistakes
Do you understand how Berzerker works? Because he only does huge damage if you fuck up really, really bad.

The easy fuckups, missing blocks on lights, takes forever to kill you.
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>>171893391
Citadel and Shard while raining at night are the best maps by far.
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>Valk has a throw followup as a gimmick
>Warden can do the same shit with his zone to double throw distance

WHO THE FUCK THINKS ITS BALANCED HE CAN DO LITERALLY EVERYTHING BUT BLEED
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>>171893503
Citadel and Shard are great duel maps.

I hate Shard in 4v4 because of how quickly you can get from one section of it to another: it makes 1v1s impossible because team mates are always a stones throw away for both teams, and can roll up at a moments notice.
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>>171883056
>not knowing how to swim with your clothes on

It's like you want to drown at sea.
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>>171883073
Yes and thankfully I think the exp needed to get from rep 1 to 2 is the same as 10 to 11 and so on.
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>>171893832
I can but you know how difficult it is compared to swimming with shorts or nothing. LB feels like a swimsuit, the other classes feel like clothes. I can fight as them but not very well in comparison.
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>>171883586
>block attack
>arm falls off
>dodge attack
>lose feet
>enemy can't GB you for fear of catching it

Seems legit.
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what is the best ordainment for the zerker? I was thinking the crown of horns
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>>171894305
Blood Skull, easily.

Honestly, they're all pretty good with the exception of the mohawk ornaments. Pick what you like.
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>>171893454
Chain from light into top heavy fucking melt down your health and sometimes that raw heavy for whatever fucking reason just goes through your block.
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>>171894435
Attacks don't go through your block, and 'zerkers chain never stuns you long enough for you to eat the combo'd upper heavy.

If you're getting hit through your block, you probably have some connection shit going on. Maybe check your setup and make sure you have everything tightened down.

Only way you should ever eat that nuke is if you're exhausted and get put on your ass.
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>>171894707
Or if he gets parry'd.
Parry = free topheavy
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>>171894920
Only on light parries.

An upper heavy only gets insane damage if it ends a combo. You can't parry>light>upper heavy without them being able to block.
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>>171883093
The problem is that there is no timer. It only has a timer on Player Vs. Player matches.
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>>171893129
Maximum ledge fags have the Overwatch map for that, once you get past the two bridges point C of high fort makes for a better hazard point than point C of overwatch.
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Alright, before I go to bed,
>>171895252
>>171895252
>>171895252
>>171895252
New thread
>>171895252 >>171895252 >>171895252 >>171895252 >>171895252 >>171895252
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>>171895296
Pushing from C just means you can rez them later. High Fort has lots of permadeath ledges.
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>>171895459
What? All the ledges around point C are perma death, the two bridges between A and C are wide open as well and are parhways to both, the bridges to point C on highfort only lead to and from point C.
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>>171894707
>Attacks don't go through your block
There is a lag that happens with all top-attacks, even if you're holding your guard at top and not change it at all - attack still goes through.
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