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/ndg/ Nier/Drakengard General #22

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Route V: Sleazy [V]irgin

>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[NieR:Automata PC/Steam Pastebin]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ

>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Theme
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu

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>>171763216
2B9S
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Posting best character.
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>>171763368
Grandma.
The Dark Colossus Destroys All comes in close 2nd.
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>>171763461
Why are they so lewd.
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Why is life...so painful...?
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I'm blown away by how great a song Growing Wings is. What's your favorite song in the whole series?
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REMOVE IV REMOVE IV
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nth for Simone being the only good fight
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>>171763368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzk_AzQIS8
This one grew on me
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What happens when we reach [Z]?
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>>171763216
GET OUT, FOUR! NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE!
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>>171763447
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>>171763747
this one is up there with shadowlord and kaine for me desu
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>>171763669
Song of the Ancients (Fate)
Sound of the End (Calm) and Weight of the World are solid runner-ups though.
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>>171763747
Shame Adam and Eve were underused.
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>>171763828
Recurse Y/N?
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Regarding the information about Yonah in the library.
Does that mean that even if project gestalt had succeeded, Yonah would die afterwards due to the damage she had before the project? Or the replicant body was different?
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>>171763909
Sadly. I was kinda expecting a super boss with adam and eve at the same time but way faster and stronger. Basicly full character action
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>>171763747
THAT'S IT
THAT'S THE FEELING
PURE HATE
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>>171763847
Someone needs to make an Emil EVERY DAY'S A FEEL picture
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>>171763951
Most likely the former.
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>>171763828
we go back to /v/

>>171763909
They were there for the evolution aspect of the game and not really anything else. Maybe they could've put them in again right before the N2 fight?
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nth for better than any Automata character.
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what happens if I give up on the final challenge?
I couldn't do that myself, but I'm curious
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>>171763682
>>171763843
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>>171763747
>tfw no Tekken style fighting game set in the Taroverse
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>nth posts
when will this cancerous shit constitute a ban?
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what does this mean?
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>>171763730
Seriously. What the fuck happened after Simone? I was so hyped the rest of the bosses were going to be of that quality (and that theme) but no I was obviously wrong.
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>>171763216
>They will never upload this in sadpanda.
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>>171764325
taro likes german shit like every other japanese person
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>>171764314
World war 2.
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>>171764314
really makes you question
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>>171764289
>Tekken 7 will feature several guest characters
>none of them will be Adam
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>>171764314
Machines copied humans it tells you this in game.
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What does shockwave +8 look like?
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>>171764430
meant for
>>171764314
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>>171764314
Nier Automata is killzone's prequel.
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Post Taro
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>>171763828
I stop being OP and we return to zero. And than you count as high as you can.
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>>171764551
Kerberos Panzer Korps*
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>>171763469
After the ending, i really started liking 042
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>>171764585
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>>171764514
Looks like normal shockwave but more damaging I thibk.
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>>171764314
The StG 44 does a fine job of removing commies but not machines apparently
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>>171763368
This silence is mine.
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>>171764205
I don't really like Nier as a whole as much as I used to honestly. Maybe it's because Taro finally made a game with a lot going on in it for once.
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>Devola and Popola's bodies lying next to each other holding hands at the end of route D

IT HURTS

I F-F-FUCKING HATE YOU TARO
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Does anyone else have a GTX 970? I want to know how well the game performs. What kind of framerates are you guys getting at max or near max settings?
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>>171764605
I was the one that made the first one and I feel bad because I was kinda lazy with the links and such. You make such a better job.
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Give me one reason taro isn't confined in an asylum.
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>>171764354
I need this.
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>>171764923
He can't make games there.
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>>171764865
45-55 at almost max (4xAA instead of 8xAA)
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>>171764847
Did we help?
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They had a hard life.
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>>171764923
He's quite funny
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>>171764921
Well none of this would have been possible without you!
So thank you.
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Post yfw [username] comes to your aid during ending E.
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>>171764841
>lot going on in it for once.
See this is where I feel Taro struggles.
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The Thanks for playing! after deleting your save.
I don't understand this feeling.
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>>171764841
Bullshit. Nier is miles better than this Tokyo Ghoul dogshit.
>but muh consistency!
literally not an argument
>but muh uniqueness!
Go play Undertale if you want to find out where this tripe got all its new ideas
>but muh gameplay!
Gameplay suddenly mattering because there's nothing else good to say about the game is just another way of not having an argument.
>But muh themes!
The CHARACTERS are what matter. Stop trying to push around old, reused ideas as genius.

Tbqh Nier is so much better just because it's nothing like this garbage or the Drakengard games that came before and after it. The only reason why anyone even cares about Taro is because of Nier.
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You know what? I have to get this off my chest. I like Nier better than Automata. Am I disappointed at Automata? Probably and I hate myself for that.
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>>171764841
I liked Nier alot, but i really disliked how you had to finish the game 4 times, even when nothing except the very end changed after the second playtrough.

Plus they didn't go overboard with the guilt bait this time, it had the perfect balance between guilt and "everything is relative, no one did good or wrong"
It was good they decided to use a mix between the nier and drakengard 3 system.
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So the combat got extremely boring and easy even on hard a while in and for my next playthrough I want to do some self-limiting bullshit to try and bring some luster back.

I was thinking Hard, Barefists, No Healing Items maybe even no chips?
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>>171765391
>being this butt blasted
this "not an argument" meme needs to stop, it just makes you sound retarded.
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>>171765424
That's alright.
I like Nier 1 a lot too but I like Automata in a very different way.
This one wasn't trying to 1-up or have a similar story than the first and I think incan appreicate that more than it 'not being as good'.
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>>171765324
>tfw he actually made a happy ending.;
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>171765391
>If I say everything good about the game doesn't matter / isn't an argument, the game is shit

Not even worth a (You). Take off your "memey" goggles and try speaking like a normal person next time.
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>>171765528
There's more than just the ending that changes in the second playthrough. Playing the game 4 times is due to the fact that they didn't know how to make an optimal videogame yet. Nier is also a game about subjectivity due to the fact that it's about two dad's(fuck brother) doing whatever it takes to get their daughter back.
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>>171765241
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>>171765719
>it won't be canon if we ever get a NieR 3
>it'll continue from ending D where 9S killed A2 but then also stayed behind to die instead of going with Eve and Adam
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>>171765241
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>>171765872
I hope if we ever get a 3rd game for NieR it's during the rise of the Legion with Red Eye. I'm not a fan of the automata world.
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>>171765719
Humanity is dead, YorHa is dead, 6O and 21O are dead. The machines having no purpose will either kill themselves or go insane. the androids have no purpose and will likely do that same once they realize humanity is extinct. But at least a severely mentally fractured 9s and 2b survived.
even then 2b is programmed to kill 9s.
I feel happy.
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>>171764314
Japs like WWII Germans, breaking news
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>>171765424
Eh, it's okay. Personally, I think I liked Nier's characters and DoD3 (in a "What the FUCK is going on with these people") more overall, but Automata has a better overall plot/presentation of it.
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i can't get this song outta my head, bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4MNkAptfcA&ab_channel=MekkahDee
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>>171765391
The irony in this shitpost is that Nier is built on reused ideas. Most of them are totally bland, even. The reason why they're any good is because of the presentation.

We need to start being honest here. Nier is very good but it's not some revolutionary thing. It never was, and especially not now that the sequel is popular. Feeling threatened because there was never a game in the series that contested it until now (and one built entirely differently at that) that is also well received puts you in a very stupid, secluded minority.

Made by alienating yourself from an already existing minority which is the dumbest thing of all.
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>>171765636
I'm not going to drag you into this either but that's another problem about Automata. Taro wasted Platinum by not utilizing their full capacity. Them handling the gameplay, albeit good, is too basic to be as strong as a crutch Taro thought it was going to be as a compliment to his game.
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>>171765961
Same. I want a game set during the 13 Crusade's attack on jerusalem and finally killing Red Eye.
I want to wander into a facility and find the corpse of Angelus strung up like pic related.
I want Red Eye to be canon confirmed as Caim
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>all other deaths in the game don't really affect me at all
>these two did

I think it's because of all the suffering they had to endure because some horrible cunts programmed them with a permanent sense of guilt and then proceeded to treat them like shit everywhere they went.

>that little backstory of how they reach the camp
>one had her leg sliced by another android when she tried to defend herself
>she thinks she's being a burden to her sister

Be at peace now you cuties ;_;
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>>171766006
I can't stand DOD3's cast. Zero, Accord and Mikhail are carrying the entire game on their backs. And I appreciate Four and Three in the same way that I appreciate memes.
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>>171766151
>I want a game set during the 13 Crusade's attack on jerusalem and finally killing Red Eye.
>not wanting a game set during the 13 crusades attack on jersusalem where you play Red Eye on a mission to get back Angelus
?
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>>171766056
I like it too
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What phase are we on now? We went from twists through speculah and lore, girls, 9S hate, now we're shitting on gameplay?
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forgot the pic
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>>171765961
It's probably going to be a new setting presented in a tapestry showed for 5 minutes in a stream set in a combodian server about how robots were crushed by a resurgence of dinosaurs or something.
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>>171766207
It's because they're characters from Nier and not generic sci-fi do robots have emotions story #90000

Why can't you tools understand this? The honeymoon period is over. Automata is just boring generic nonsense. There's nothing new or interesting about it and the characters are boring.
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>>171766151
>I want to wander into a facility and find the corpse of Angelus strung up

I was kinda hoping we'd find some remnant of Red's body even though Grimoire Nier states that it disappeared fairly early on. Oh well.
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>>371396673
>mfw current state of /v/ threads
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>>171766297
It's just me shitting Taro saying it's his game and not Platinum's.
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>>171765424
I like the first Nier a lot more as well but Automata is still the most fun I had with a game in years.
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How do I proceed Emil's questline after beating him in front of his home?
I talked to him again after doing that but he just keeps saying the line about locking up his possessions in a box, even though I already beat him after stealing from said box.
How do I get the desert fight from here?
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>>171766297
idk, i guess its impossible to like both nier and nier automata equally but like them for different reasons. not that i mind discussion over personal preferences, but since we're on 4chan the arguments amount to "you're wrong because: I'm right / you're retarded"

i mean ffs the two games are trying to achieve two different things. it doesnt make one objectively better or worse than the other
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>>171766297
9S hate really isn't long for this world in any form
It comes mostly from trying to read Automata like a book to begin with
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>>171766579
Upgrade all your weapons to max.
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>>171765669
>>171766006
>>171766537
Yeah, I just had to say it. I don't want to argue or debate what's good or bad. I just inherently like what Nier did well versus what Automata did well better. Does that make sense and is that a good way to look at things?
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So was the theme of this game trying to find purpose/meaning in an ultimately meaningless world?
I wonder what happened to Jean-paul.
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>>171763469

The pods were the true heroes.
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>>171766770
Theme was existentialism, if that wasn't obvious enough as the game shoves it down your throat every few minutes.
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>>171766827
I cannot accept this result.
They really were. 042 literally fought the game itself to get a good ending.
Truth be told though I kind of prefer ending D.
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>>171766593
Nier has its own pretentious following outside the series fanbase, that until now was latching onto it because no one would really disagree with anything they said. It wasn't apparent that this was the case until Automata came out and suddenly Nier wasn't the undisputed king of Taro games anymore.
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>>171766530
>Going to /v/ to begin with

The place is a burning asshole that just keeps dropping turds
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>>171765241
Most /a/ moment in any game desu
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>>171766680
No problem my friend, in my honest opinion you can like/dislike whatever ya want, I won't mind.

I would only start to blame you if you started to throw around irrational bullshit, and that has mostly to do with the state of the overall vidya community.
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>>171765241
I actually got mad at that undertale tier bullshit but I like undertale for what it encompasses.
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>Square Enix Marketing Department
This is not kosher.
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>>171766680
That's honestly fine. Did you at leadt enjoy it though?
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Can anyone tell me what 8-4 ruined for me this time?
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>>171766680
Makes perfect sense. Both games are different ways of telling a story, with NieR being more character driven and Automata being world driven.
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>>171767439
So far it's my goty contender. Legit Platinum'd and 100% everything at 90hrs. Persona 5 would be my other contender but I won't count it because it's my 2015 goty because I'm not an eop.
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>>171766997
its the irrational hatred / hating of automata thats frustrating. constructive criticism and actual discussion of its shortcomings is fine, or discussion over what nier did better, and have been in the threads for a while.
idk, i come to /vg/ for comfy, when [autistic screeching] posts comes into play it ruins the comfy
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>>171765391
let me guess
>btfo in a /v/ thread because it turned out there was nothing objective about your complaints
>got in the last word but still wasn't satisfied and the thread 404ed
>decided to shit up the general to maintain your sad erection

how close am I
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What was the point in even including the Red Girl?
Could have been a disembodied voice and had the same effect.
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Anyone else experiencing shitty weather right now?
>stopped raining
>Spring started to manifest aka bugs everywhere and warmth
>All of a sudden rain
>Cold and all bugs die
Nier
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>>171767473
Remember the Yorha disposal archive? well that one for some reason found it's way into the Black box archive so you got that reveal way earlier than you should. Also 2B and 9S are different characters from the Japanese and English version for some reason.
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>>171767925
Fuck crane flies. I can't go ten steps outside without running into one.

Plus they freak me out.
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>>171767990
>so you got that reveal way earlier than you should.
Wait seriously? This was one of my major complaints about the "twist" is that you get it from a fucking chest. Are you telling me a bug ruined the impact of the ending for me?
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>>171767894
That's a weird complaint. They were in the stage play and were a drive for A2, they're supposed to be based on gestalt Nier in some way, and they were managing the network.

Why wouldn't they have a body?
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After reviews like this Square is gonna send some money Yoko's way for more story dlc right?
I already want more from this story
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>>171768095
>crane flies
>not Skeeter Hawks
pleb detected, probably a northerner too
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So why the hell did the machines send hundreds of tanks and multiple Goliaths against Pascal in the factory?
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>>171768192
Yeah, check it yourself. Change the language and look at the archives you will notice the black box one is shorter
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>>171768315
Southern California.
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>Retarded newfag cucks ask for reason why some stuff happens in the game.
>People tells them that it may be a huge spoiler
>Retards says is okay
>People answer
>WUHAAAAAA YOU SPOILED ME THE LORE OF THE GAME WHAAAAAAAAAA MOMMY!

Jesus christ, how some newfags can be so fucking retarded to ask for spoilers and then complaint after they got what they asked.

Steam community is filled with retard too, same shit happening on all the threads.

Sometimes I feel like this game is like honey for fucking retarded casual faggots who doesn't even pay attention to the game and the story.
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>>171768342
They know Pascal is the last Olympian god. The only way to truly destroy him after A2 took his side was to attack his heart.
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>>171768279
>square gives enough funding for an actual 5+hr expansion
>taro instead lives up to his promise and has those elevators lead to massive piles of poop for you to slide around in the desert, uses the funding to get the best poop particle effects possible
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>>171768346
Jesus christ. This seriously ruined a lot of the ending for me.
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>>171768458
>capital letters at the beginning of greentext
>empty line of reddit spacing after each sentence
See me after class.
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>>171768342
needed an excuse for pascal's character change and it was probably the first and easiest thing they thought of.
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>>171768617
Hello there newfag, did you get triggered plebbit cuck?

You have to go back.
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>>171766394
Hello /v/, are you lost?
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>>171768617
>reddit spacing
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>finish watching Cashern Sins before playing Automata
>Automata is basically the same thing

Fuck, what are the chances.
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>>171768458
It has Platinum attached to it
And when you make a /v/ shitposter explain themselves you end up with
>game sucks because I don't like the presentation

These two things are related
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>>171768458
That's a problem with Automata's success and the fact that it is also on PC. It now garners the disgusting cancer PC userbase along with normies. I'm not one to mind cases like this but for some reason I really do in Automata's case. Fuck me
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>>171768617
>empty line of reddit spacing
what does that even mean
I assume it's a thing you know because you're a ledditor yourself?
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>Ending N
>Have to genocide Pascal's village
>"Do not kill!"
>"I'm sorry!"
>I'm sorry
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>>171768727
>calling anyone else newfag when he's capitalizing greentext other than when it starts with a name
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>>171768836
I remember that anime being the BECOME AS GODS part of Automata and not as much the rest of it
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>>171768867
>how do you know the holocaust happened
>I assume it's because you're a jew?
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>>171768848
I really don't want the "PC Master race" people to ruin this game's fanbase
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>>171768930
Looks like you really have to go back newfag, considering you're still embarrasing youself, we're making fun of you >>171768789
>>171768867
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Why are they so perfect?
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Can I get Emil to move in Route A? I want the weapons but he won't leave the desert camp.
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>>171768909
Channel your inner Caim
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It's over bros, Jim Sterling praises the shit out of Automata.
GOTY MASTERPIECE OF THE MILLENIUM
Nothing will ever compare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gd41YB9mAc
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See? This game is so meaningless that this thread is now mostly about reddit.

Just fucking ADMIT IT already, god dammit
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>>171768909
Literally bought the trophy from the mysterious resistance person so I didn't have to do that, I couldn't.

It's only a videogame yet I just couldn't.
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>>171769020
Cashern Sins focused very heavily on existentialism and robots trying to find meaning in their own life. Which is also the huge theme in Automata.
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>>171768836
PASCAL NO KOROSE
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>>171769190
Talk to him, he tells you where his house is. Sometimes you gotta go there and take his mask, then trigger his "theft" dialogue, sometimes you have to keep fast travelling a fuckton of times for him to change routes.
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>>171769151
>I'm embarrassing myself
>you're the one capitalizing random words at the beginning of greentext that aren't either "I" or names
Quite ironic.
One day you'll realize your mistakes.

>lol multiple retards are telling einstein that E =/= mc2
>they must be right because they're more than 1 person!
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>>171768930
How autistic can you be?
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>>171769201
>eternally blew the fuck out of /v/ and reddit with his 7/10 Zelda review
>gives Automata a 9/10

Subscribed, just for the bants
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>>171769219
this board is meaningless, you fucking moron
everything is meaningless
especially your attempts to make people admit shit you believe in
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>>171769219
>>171769340
Are you seriously trying this hard to fir plebbit-kun?
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>>171769190
yeah
sometimes he can get stuck there for whatever reason, even after triggering his dialogue about where he lives
just keep teleporting and he will eventually move
I once had to use chapter select because he was stuck forever on the desert area, but I assume you don't have that yet, so apart from teleporting around, quitting and loading could help
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>>171769237
Funny you mention that because Route B Simone actually talks about eating an Android for eternal beauty. Either Taro gave a nod to it or he took a little too much from it.
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>>171769219
Sure
I will admit that the Automata hate is getting less sophisticated by the day, as is made evident by dwindling IP and successful thread numbers.
The more you cry about it, the worse it gets. For you.
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>>171769219
>This game is so meaningless
but anon, that's the whole point.
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>>171769076
It already did the moment they revealed it was going to be on pc. Look at it now and wait til this honeymoon period or whatever that term is is over.
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Why do I feel like a shitter for using shockwaves?
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>>171769947
I dunno.
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What would you do to 9S's meat box?
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>>171769076
fucking elitists
muh nier, muh exclusive games, muh uhh
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>>171770254
Thanks for proving my point
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>>171764314

The game is set in 11945. Remove a '1' and you're in WW2, near the end of the war.

Similarly, the Pearl Harbor drop was in 11941.
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>>171765391
dude, calm down, okay?
calm down.
cool it.
nice.
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"http://www.dsogaming.com/news/modder-has-figured-out-a-way-to-almost-double-the-performance-of-nier-automata/

>As we’ve already said, NieR: Automata does not feature a lot of graphics settings to tweak and as a result of that, the game does not scale well on older graphics cards. However, it appears that modders have figured out a way to almost double the game’s performance; something that will be very useful to those with relatively weak PC systems.

>Modder ‘DrDaxxy‘ adjusted the game’s Global Illumination solution, resulting in 30-60% performance increase in a modern-day graphics card (NVIDIA GTX980Ti). On mobile GPUs and older graphics cards, however, this fix/tweak almost doubles the game’s performance.

>According to DrDaxxy, NieR: Automata uses a super expensive Global Illumination solution. Its GI compute shader is an array it loops over, which by default has 128 elements. DrDaxxy cut the number of elements to 16, which is the minimum as only values divisible by 16 are allowed.

>As such, the overall performance has been significantly increased at the cost of a simpler GI solution. DrDaxxy has provided some comparison screenshots and as we can see, there are some slight differences between them.

Platinum and SE should be ashamed for such a lousy port."

I've been a bit out of the loop in regards to PC performance but if anyone hasn't already seen this you might take a look.
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>>171763216
DG3 was worst taro game though
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>>171770494
np :)
also, what does "ruin the fanbase" mean? any game's fanbase consists mostly of shit-tier people, how can it go even deeper
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>>171764847

thisDevola and Popola dindu nuffin, they was good girls.
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>Come back to Pascal's village after erasing his memories
>He's selling the cores and heads of machines in the village and the children he woke up next to
>Says he's trying to clear the "junk"
>Says he doesn't know what the machine parts do
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>>171770610
They should be ashamed for other things involving the game *wink wink*
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>>171770610
Does this mean that the console versions could theoretically see a performance boost like this if there was an update?
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Why is 2b so fucking weak?
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I still don't get how Kaine's clothes work and that her nipples don't just slip out.
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>>171771512
MASO particles and also magic I guess.
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>>171770784
what's the point of getting children's core from him though?
Is it just for feeling psychotic?
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Does anyone else slightly wish that there was a mode that removed all cutscenes and dialogue so i could replay certain parts of NieR A without the emotionally draining story.
It's almost like i can say that the story is actually too good to enjoy replaying it.
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>>171771728
>play on hard
>die in 1 hit by lvl 8 enemies
>when I'm lvl 15
What the fuck?
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>>171771728
You can sell it back for more money. It's also to guilt you
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>>171771728
It sells for much more than you buy it for.
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>>171771810
You can skip cutscenes though
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After running through Soulbox two times minigames dont feel that bad anymore.

In fact i dont hate them at all anymore.
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>>171771728
you make 27k off of it
not that it matters in the long run because you can abuse the living fuck out of Route C price changes to make infinite money
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Is Ch. 17-10: The End supposed to be greyed out? I've got 10-1 and 10-2, but 10 itself is disabled. Is that just because it has subsections, or am I missing something?
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>no art compares to the in-game models
feels bad
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>>171772118
Some does
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>>171771871
yes but I cant skip the in game dialogue
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>>171772118
You're not alone there. I actually hate 90% of the fanart this game gets because nearly nothing can capture the perfection that is the model of 2B and etc characters.
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>>171772221
idk that brown/grey smudge on the ground makes it look like she shit herself, especially in the thumbnail
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>>171765241
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>>171771810
How can ANYONE like this game's story
It's the most obtuse thing in the world, even more than Bloodbore's
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>>171772289
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feel this and I'm not clinically insane
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Still no torrent, right?
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>>171772118
I think it's mostly because of art style.
All the robots look like they are supposed to, it's just humanoid proportions that look dofferent than concept.
The concept artist did Bravely Default so the dide overexaturates hips quite a lot and tends to not add much facial detail.
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>>171771810
Agreed, I wanted to start a new story but I kinda didn't want to get sad again so I'm 100%ing the game first
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>>171772312
ART
R
T
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>>171772221
Waist is tiny, good, and close to the original but the hips are too small. Doesn't capture 2B well enough.
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>>171765996
I took the look to be a signal of "maybe YoRHa aren't good people."
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>>171772263
We can only hope someone manages to rip the models or something and make some decent sfm stuff
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>>171772289
Literally every single person who sees this picture thinks that.

Maybe she had a wet robot fart with undigested broken circuits?
Maybe that was the artists intention?
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>>171772446
In that case I hope they don't use SFM and instead use something good.
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So the camera is the POV of a pod, right? That's why 2B pushes you away when you try to sneak a peak.
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I feel so bad that I didn't enjoy this as much as I wanted to. Almost disappointed in myself, perhaps a 2nd playthrough will help.
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>>171772549
I agree, sfm looks like shit
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>>171765996
huh, first time I hear about this. Have some examples to share? I'm curious.
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>there's barely any Commander art

I didn't go in expecting much but godDAMN do I want more stuff featuring her now
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>>171769185

Romeo and Juliet.

If Juliet was programmed to be a dumb bitch instead of actually just being one.
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>>171772772
Uh, they were allies?
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>>171770073

Loli 2B asking a2 mom why she has to kill all the time.

Fucking.

When.

???

Grandma kaine comes along and beats up both of them for being shitters who kill their comrades instead of saving them.
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>you will never have a gf with a perfect body like 2B and cosplay as her
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>>171772312
I'm sorry anon, I don't know why your shitposting threads are dying 12 posts in either
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>>171764546
>>171764430

Since when was this a thing? Japanese being fond of Germany I mean.
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>>171773006
>Japanese being fond of Germany I mean
do you know anything at all about Japanese history?
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>>171771228

She wasn't made to fight.

Only kill.
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>>171772878
Yeah, in the 1940's, and a lot has changed since then. I didn't know that even today Japs were fond of German culture.
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>>171773182
You've never watched any anime? They throw around German words/names a lot in them.
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>>171764923
If he would be the mad cruel god 2B predicted he would not have placed himself on the game to suffer as well
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>>171771228
So 9s could probably beat 2b up in a straight 1v1 situation without any assassinating shenanigans right?
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>yfw
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>>171773097
I understand that Germany played a significant role in modernization of Japan, and of course there's WW2.
But cultures, governments and mentalities change, especially after the disaster that was the Second World War.
I guess I should read up on my history then, I do find it curious that even today Japanese show these sentiment towards Germany.
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>>171773507
The fucker can hack.
And he learned how to fight. Of course he'd win.
In terms of story based logic, he'd probably lose if he had no hacking. In terms of gameplay logic you can just abuse that to all fucking hell.
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>>171772974
I'll build one then.
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>>171773571
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>>171773608
Ww2 Germany is high fashion.
Jp loves that shit.

Jojo, fma, Drake, nier, Tanya the devil, most vampire shit and a lot of rpgs have this.

Smt and persona as well.
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>Japanese: おっぱい好き 好き 好き (I like breasts)
>English: Feed. me! Love. Love.

What did they mean by this?
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How old is 2B supposed to be? I don't mean manufacturing date but portrayal wise.
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>>171773781
Imitating human infants probably
>>171773806
I'd take a guess at like 20 or 30
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>>171771810
>skip cutscenes
>set voice volume to 0
>remove subtitle chip
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>>171773571
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>>171773608
it's similar to how westerners view Japanese culture as weird and different
they feel the same way about western culture, with Germany being one of their big obsessions, and also France
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>>171773637
>>171773507
He's the most advanced model and could probably beat 2B without hacking either if the dumb novella bullshit is taken into account and if 2B didn't have that sick nasty yorha hack protection crap she had then and there.
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>>171773806
Pure sex. Age doesn't matter anon.
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>>171773806
She's 3 - 6 years old.
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>>171771938
I did them all then went back to save so if I die I don't need to redo them.
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>>171768516
>dlc comes out
>door are irrelevant to it but are open anyway
>it's fertilizer. Square miles upon square miles of hundreds of meter deep fertilizer
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>>171765241
I can't even describe the feeling I got as they came in with that change to the music.

Jesus Christ.
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>>171770996
That's assuming Japanese devs:
1. know English
2. follow modding news
3. give enough of a shit to do something
So most likely not happening.
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>>171770996
Doubt it, if they really cared about optimization the game would already run way better.
Platinum works fast and makes sure it runs close to 60fps, but that's about it
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>>171774748
They posted a couple of updates on the official Steam page already, so they're definitely following stuff.
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>>171765241
>tfw you realise what '[USERNAME]'s data was lost' means
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How do I fix the resolution for Fullscreen?
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>>171774835
>tfw I wasted like 8 people's data because I thought "man, what a stupid gimmick" and didn't even bother doding anymore.
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>>171765391
>Go play Undertale if you want to find out where this tripe got all its new ideas
there are people who actually think undertale invented every single thing unique to shmups
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>>171772221
>2B sat on someone so hard he blew into spare parts
>the machines are confused and in awe now knowing if they should flee or ask to be next
>pod has taken pictures for operator and 9s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS2vp0n17BE

Does anyone know where I can find the music for Drakengard 1's opening cinematic? I can only ever find it with the cinematic.
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>>171774982
it does not exist. Many lives were lost on the quest to find it but ended in failure all the same.
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Who else got a MASSIVE boner thanks to the heavy armor suit?

The way how sticks to the body of the Androids, those fucking legs, dat ass.
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>>171774937
Use this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512104777399045/

Press ctrl+shift+O to remove the onscreen text.
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>>171774982
I don't think you'd want to listen to this on its own because of the flaming letters sound effects.
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>>171775068
How many children do we have to sacrifice to get it?
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>>171765241
I actually wanted to go back and do all of the sidequests, but I would have felt like a prick if I didn't delete my save in honor of the bros who did it for me. Damn you Taro.
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>>171773571
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>>171772312
>a game where the story is presented through dialogue, cutscenes, and in game books
>a game where the story is literally non existent
these aren't comparable you dick sucker
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>>171775345
i'm gonna delete my save now, fuck Reconaissance squad quest, not going to reload the game 20 billion times ot hunt some obscure robot models
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I initially didn't like A2 but after playing through her parts multiple times as well as some sidequests as her, I've to really enjoy her character a lot. I just wish they included the yorha stage play events in this game, it would be fun to play as A2 on a suicide mission and lose everyone
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Who had the best voice performance in this game?
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Where in the world do I get large gears?
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>>171775186
The Watchers drink and raise high the basin of fire, anon.
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>>171775136
Thanks, i'm guessing all the yellow text in the top left means it's installed?
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>>171775580
The golden robot
https://u.nya.is/sbjhab.mp4
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>>171775590
Emil sells them on his factory route
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>>171775590
It would've been faster for you to straight up google this than ask it on 4chan and then wait for a reply
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>>171775696
>English dub
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>>171775651
Yes.
Also this thing adds 10+ frames on average for me.
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>mfw all of my Steam library saves are backed up automatically every two hours
I'm not going to have the save deletion regret on the PC version, am I?
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>>171775735
>mfw when he got a reply faster than you could tell him that
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>>171773571
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>>171775757
Meh, Nier games are one of the i'll gladly play in english. I didn't like most of the japanese voices
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Has anyone ripped the voice lines from the game yet?
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>>171774823
Welll 2bf it's pretty stable on consoles, it just isn't optomized for PC.
Platinum probably cares a lot, but Platinum as of late seems to be synonymis with being quick, cheap, and pretty decent qualty while running alright.
And we already know they care because Bayo 2 looks and plays great. On a WiiU no less.

Part of me wants to believe that it's not as spotless as it could have been because half the company -at the time of developement- was working on scalebound. Revengeance was even a good port in the end and can play on my laptop toaster no fucking problem. So the porting being not great feels off.
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>>171775793
The saves are under Documents/My Games/NieR_Automata, so you can manually back them up.
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Why does 2B says "it always ends like this" at the end?

Did she have another lover or something?
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>>171775927
play the rest of the game
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>>171775926
My back up server does it for me automatically
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>>171775696
Almost as good at FOR THE FOREST KIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
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>>171775757
The english dub is the only way to play, you autistic weeaboo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Ku9HIumpM
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>>171775852
This, plus you can always do JP voices when you replay it later.
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>>171775830
That doesn't change anything about my point
He could've found this information faster than the 1:39 that he had to wait for his reply
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>>171775927
have you played the fucking game?
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>>171775927
PLAY
THE
GAME
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>the sound of flight unit landing/taking off
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I've been completely disconnected from the internet ever since the game was released. I just beat it on PC, done all the endings and achievements.

What a fucking game.
I still can't decide if I like it more than the first one, time will tell perhaps, but Yoko Taro has done it again.
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>>171776060
>>171776043
>>171775969
I just finished the fucking game you fucks.
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>>171775580
All of the Japanese voice cast. Everyone in English except like, 2B but due to the direction of the her English lines. I'm not an eop.
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>>171776000
Here's the superior original version anon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llwKvG4ANlc
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>>171776261
Hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHA
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>>171775927
Play the rest of the game.
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>>171776261
It's due the fact that Taro is retarded and decides to put important stuff in side novels that will never be released outside of japan.
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>>171776261
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>>171776261
>People still somehow think Route A is the end of the game even though there's a giant screen saying there's multiple endings right afterwards
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>Personal data deletion request denied.
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>>171776261
No you didn't. Not Routes B and C.
Back to work.
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>>171776261
You've not even started it. Get the fuck out before you get spoiled.
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This game is fucking bullshit
Every single fucker is a 1 hit kill or takes 90% of your life
And if you die infront of them it's near impossible to get your shit back unless you cheese everything
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>>171776261
>end of credits literally explains that there is more to the game
>buys a game in a series without any knowledge of its predecessor, everywhere you'd look on the internet it would mention how yoko taro uses "endings" as a mechanic to further the plot

you're no where near the end. keep playing. and don't come back until you've actually beaten it.
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see THIS is why Automata is a steaming pile of shit. It doesn't adhere to any standards whatsoever. At least in Nier the game was basically over after you got to the credits and there were just small additions for the other ones.
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So just finished the game to 100%(ish)
Have some complaints. I will condense them in to green meme text for easy reading.

>I felt characters weren't fleshed out nearly enough, felt more for A2's old squad than 9S or 2B
>bosses seem rather lackluster, Simone being the exception
>Adam and Eve are almost pointless?
>big twist was spoiled for me due to a in game bug (the report was in the wrong place) thus making the final impact kinda awful
>combat got extremely boring very quickly which is a surprise even to myself
>theme of existentialism was pushed a little too hard at points and it almost got obnoxious at others

Now for the things I thought the game really did well over the other titles.

>presentation of the plot was fantastic even if I didn't like a lot of it
>Become as Gods, Pascal's Despair, Emil's Memories, the Pipe Story, the Library throwback
>world itself actually changed when you progressed (the factory would be pitch-black after you fight the boss there)
>novels yet again are fantastic as expected
>music is good (not god tier NieR but good)
>fucking Ending Y


Though it lacks some world building aspects and the kind of character development and chemistry that was present in NieR it's still a decent title.
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>>171776795
you never played the first nier
fuck off back to /v/eddit
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>>171776217

I rate both Nier and Automata highly, but for different reasons. Overall I think I'll be giving the nod to Automata.
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So what was up with this character? I haven't looked at any theories or explanations yet but considering you get a "Transcendent Being" achievement when you get all the endings and the icon is an empty frame, is it intended to represent the player?

Also, where the fuck is Beepy?
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>>171776795
>small
Ending A in Nier is leagues worse than ending A in Automata
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>>171776651
well, you have options
the game states normal is probably the most enjoyable mode, you could give that a shot. or, you could try to better master the mechanics so you dont get hit.
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>Heritage of the Past
I found three items so far but I cant find the 4th, i'm sick of this fucking desert
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>>171776261
This kind of retard is the reason for trailers in the middle of games.
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>>171776893
I thought that was Emil.

Beepy is probably dead.
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>>171776795
>Automata is a steaming pile of shit
>doesn't adhere to any standards whatsoever
>any standards
how many standards have you seen, you silly motherfucker? stop projecting so much
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>>171776273

not as good as become as gods

and I like the jp voices
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>>171776927
>master mechanics
>in a plat game
The only thing you need to master is adding HP and defense chips, nothing else matters
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>>171776893
Beepy is in space
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKt3EFOELwg
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There's no way to play the first Nier without owning a PS3 or a 360 right?
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>>171776929
The last item is in the area by the apologetic machine
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>>171776893
>Beepy
>rusted scrap long before the aliens even arrived

Hehehehe
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>>171776962

I was really annoyed when they put a fucking trailer for ending c/d at the end of b. I can see why they did it but still
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>>171776893

Dead. He sacrificed himself to become a network that infected the Alien machine one.

It's why they act so human/are obsessed with humanity.
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>>171777095
PS3 emulation is coming along rather nicely so it's up to you famalam
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>>171777095
only on youtube
or wait for emulator
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>>171776929
Head toward the elevator with the apologetic robot from the archeologist. It's in a little cluster of buildings.
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>finish all main routes
>sacrificed myself for strangers
>want to replay the game to rebuild my save
>realizing that everything I'll experience will just be a repetition

God why does it feel so empty. I hate it.
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>>171776000
>the way other than the original is the only way to play
wew lad
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>>171776893

Beepy fucked off into space

Halelujah, Halelujah
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>>171777160
Does that means a slightly larger chance of someone translating Replicant?
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>>171777095

Correct.

For now.
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>>171776261
(you)
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>>171775071
I got a massive boner from almost everything in this game.

That was the most difficult task while playing this game, keeping the blood in my brain so I can actually concentrate on the combat and story.
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>>171763847
>>171764053
Ask and you shall recieve
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>>171777259
Probably not, you can already do fan translations and undubs and shit for custom firmware PS3s and it hasn't happened yet
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Anyone got suggestions for a challenge/meme run? Combat for too easy on Hard half way in and I'm trying to find ways to limit myself.

Obviously playing on Very Hard is an option but I doubt I'd finish the game. I want each encounter to feel like there's an actual sense of danger.
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>>171777160
>>171777164
>wait for emulator
People have been working on a ps3 emulator for years now with barely any progress though haven't they

>>171777268
>no places around that sell old consoles that arent fucked beyond repair
Just cuck me up
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>>171776987
But Emil was presented separately (pic related). And as far as I know we don't really know what happened to Beepy after he fucked off to space.

>>171777050
>>171777129
>>171777240
Yeah, but I was expecting him to appear at some point, the setting was pretty much begging for it, but maybe it was too overpowered as a character.

>>171777134
I considered this too, is there any info supporting this?
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>>171777323

I'd command her, if you know what I mean.
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>>171776872
I feel like the RPG structure (especially semi-open world structure) simply doesn't really work with Platinum-style's gameplay. The fighting mechanics have some neat tricks here and there, but none of it really matters since enemy design and difficulty is balanced around stats rather than straight moveset like in Bayonetta / DMC / other BTAs.
Since "mastering" just involves either grinding or just farming particular chips, you're just gonna mash the fuck out of your attacks and dodging rather than take into account the fight system which can make it rather dull, especially since it's really easy to cheese with healing items / chips / pods / hacking. I don't know if going this direction was a good idea.
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>>171777416
why don't you actually look up the current state of PS3 emulation
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>>171773571
made me think there was more content left than there actually was
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>>171777416
>barely any progress though
what else would you expect, modern consoles are very complex architecture-wise
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Just finished route B.

Was i supposed to know who those two holographic bitches were watching 2b strangle 9s?

Not asking for spoilers on who they are, just wondering if I'll find out later, or if i missed something and should go back.
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>>171776872
What? Nier's worldbuilding was buried in Grimoire Nier. The setting as far as the game went to explain it on its own was probably the one just plain bad thing about it.

Also, regarding Adam and Eve, their purpose is to be the height of machine evolution and then die hilariously because humanity's chain of conflict etc etc. They lived and died by their theme like a lot of the main cast in this game.
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>>171777586
You find out in Route C
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>>171777586
you'll find out in route C

now git out of this thread
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>>171777586
Keep playing and get out.
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>>171777586
You'll find out later.
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>>171777259
Father is better anyway

>>171777407
The combat is too easy anyway. It really is a successor to Nier in the sense that all you do is mash and occasionally press evade and and use magic or a skill except now at a silky smooth fps of "60" on console. Meme challenge is no dodge and only form of defense is Counter chip
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>>171777045
well i assume he's early in the game and hasn't gotten any decent chips yet. chip crutch aside you shouldnt be getting hit enough to the point where you get mad about it and post on 4chan about it, all the attacks are telegraphed and the dodge is super lenient
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>>171776480
IM A DUMMY? HEE HEE, THANKS A LOT!
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>>171777586
They're not actually little girls, it's actually a single old british man. or.. vaguely british sounding
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>>171777742
he became the little girl(s)
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>>171777649
>>171777648
>>171777629
Thanks boys, just wanted to make sure i hadnt missed an important lore dump somewhere. I'm leaving, ill see y'all after ending E
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>>171777742
Matt Mercer does not sound british
Neither does pic related for that matter
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>>171777795
Not gonna lie, it's supposed to be serious but the really wide smile that they do. I burst out laughing
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>>171777695
That's not the dummy, you dummy.

The dummy looked like this.
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>>171774957
The people who offer their data lose it when they do so, so you can't really waste it afaik.
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>>171777881
Is his eng va doing an accent? Are you fucking kidding me?
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I want a Commander WWII-style pin-up girl-themed background
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>>171776893
Isn't the CV for Transcendence Jouji Nakata? That would mean that it's the Terminal. He and Taro tweeted about the word before the game released as well
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>>171777927
I didn't learn that till the end either. I desperately tried to dodge because I wanted to save the data and thank them for the help
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>>171776893
I've wondered about that one too. My attempts to find out if that thing and someone else within the franchise share the same voice actor were unsuccessful too.

The first characters that popped into my mind were Caim or Nier, I don't now why
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>>171778006
Couldn't 9S have hacked the commander and removed the virus?

I'm kind of pissed taro didn't keep at least ONE of the yorha waifus around
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They could have done something great in the tower regarding The Watchers being the Aliens.

Hell we could have had a 3rd Queen fight.
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>>171777605

This. Discounting all the stuff that's in Grimoire Nier the game did fuckall to establish the workings of the world barring the huge plot-dump you got from Devola and Popola near the end of the game.

That really threw me off, luckily the central cast of characters was so strong.
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SOMEONE GIVE A2 A BATH
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>>171778092

Hacking the virus puts himself at risk for the virus. Like what happened when he hacked Eve.
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>>171778128
Given that the alien-looking creature thing the Flower stems from comes locked up with the Cathedral City, we surely have to have some relation happen right? The madman has to explain this kind of thing right?
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>>171778363
Eve is a little different

he's probably 50% virus in composition
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spoilered for potential spoilers but I have a question

is there any point where I get to play as 2b again after route B? Story wise I'm guessing no, but I saw something online about being able to play as her and go back to previous chapters. Is that the case? Otherwise I'm a little disappointed because fuck 9s, he's boring as shit and I'm not looking forward to playing him again after route C.

ty for your time lads
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>>171778046
You're going to be hit a lot anyway, I consider myself half decent at the hacking game and I still got hit like 5-6 times.
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>>171778529
Yes, briefly.
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>>171778529
You get to play as her again for 30 minutes or so before she dies, and then you get to play as worst girl
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>>171778140
And without that central cast Nier wouldn't be nearly as appreciated as it is. It would probably be the worst game in the series by a lot. This is one of the reasons why I think Automata is a lot better, because it settled for pretty typical anime characters with a lot of implicit development leading up to CaimS and is still as good as it is.
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>>171778535
tfw shit at bullet hells so I had to suffer through all of 9S' haxx0rz
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>>171778529

You play her for a very small amount at the beginning of C but it's literally like one story quest with no chance of roam.
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>>171778529

Yes.
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Is it werid to feel like he had earned to get a little bet of revenge? If not for any reason at all then just for the fuck of it?
For some reason I relly feel this dude and wanted to kill 2A too.
Not because she did any wrong but because It feels right to do something awful when the world is so awful. Doesnt it?
Didn't he earn at very least that much?


BTW
His ending makes it crystal clear that whatever he wanted to do with Toobie was certainly not kill or rape. Not until he got fucked up from losing everything
Kiss? Love? Have? Live with?
Whatever, he was a nice boy and wanted only nice things
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>doing the credits at route E
>get asked if I have anything to say to other players at the end
>have to say no because I didn't finish 2 sidequests yet and want to do them first
I'M SORRY LADS
I'LL BE BACK
I PROMISE
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>>171778092
There was supposedly no time for S9 hacking her. She wanted to go down with the ship. Probably felt guilty about the whole charade and forcing 2b to murder 9s every time.
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>Get to the machine village
>Oh boy these are some real swell people
>I hope nothing bad happens to them
>See bodies appearing on the floor the next time I go there
Oh no.jpg
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>>171778736

9S just made due with what he thought was working for him while everything went to shit. I liked 9S as a character
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>>171767990
Different characters?
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>>171778736
the bleep was fuck, he wanted to fuck 2B you idiot. He's a horny schoolboy who wanted to fuck his first crush and he was devastated that she was ripped away from him and on her dying lips was the pet name he had nagged her to call him through the entire game "nines"
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>>171778685
>>171778615
>>171778593
I knew about the brief time, but was really hoping I could go back and do stuff after. That's some real shit, why would they market her so hard if she's only relevant for a quarter of the story, that's dumb as shit. 9S blows ass and A2 has so far failed to captivate me. Might just give it back and look up the rest of the story online.
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Just finished Route A, I'm liking 9S a lot more now that I'm actually playing as him. He's real shit in combat tho, so I just set my overpowered 2B to aggro mode and watch her kill everything.

Beat route A in 8 hours barely doing any side quests, better than expected for a platinum game. Wonder how long it'll take now that I'm actually gonna do everything before ending B.
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>>171778851
Don't worry anon, it's not like anything way worse than what you'd expect to happen to that village would happen
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>>171778635
Just listen to yourself you fucking shill.
>i-i-if Nier didn't have any good characters
But it DOES. It has characters that are way better than Automemea's. Take away your precious extensionalism and this game is dogshit.
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I can't remember when exactly 9s said it but when said something like why do I yearn for the touch of something that no longer exists I fucking broke
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>>171778092
>Couldn't 9S have hacked the commander and removed the virus?
9S can't remove the virus. His hacking only delays the inevitable. 2B was only able to hold off since 9S prevented her data from syncing to the server. 9S succumbed to the virus at the very end of the game.
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>>171778891
you didn't play mgs2, did you?
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>>171778890
Maybe well maybe.

The question is whether or not does he really have a dick. And the thread is full of people insisting he wanted to kill her all along for the weirdest of reason.
Maybe people got carried away with edgy shit and just want more of fucked up stuff.
I really cant imaginewhy would anyone think about KILL given the context.
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>>171778905

>9S
>shit at combat

Spears and bracers dog, also experiment with the charge attack.
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>>171778891
>why would they market her so hard if she's only relevant for a quarter of the story
Puled off the same shit in Metal gear solid 2.
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>>171778128
>3rd Queen Fight
>When you enter inside the tower after getting all the weapons to max and the get to the 2Bs room they simply kill themselves with their sword
>9S goes full fucking Caim even more than the usual C/D route
>literally destroys everything in his path and literally one-shots A2 in something that resembles the berserker mode that A2 has
>N2 tries to stop him but he hacks inside them and just takes control of the network
>]The screen glitches out and you hear Yoko Taro talking about a child in a bath that really gotta go out, after finishing he appears as a naked fat emil and to beat him you gotta S rank a DDR section with a DDR pad*

*DDR only given to the participants of his new stage play in a shitty hotel of Tokyo
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>>171778938
>take away one good thing about Nier and you get a shit game
>take away multiple good things (but let's pretend that it's all one thing) about Automata and you get a shit game
What did he mean by this?
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How long is each play though?
I've seen 7 hours, 10 hours and 20 hours.
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>>171778938
I think reddit is more up to your speed bud
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>>171778402
Sadly no, only thing we get in game is that Red Girl looks like a brown haired Manah.
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>>171778092
There's a few surviving YorHa members. The two druggies in the oil field, the one lost in the Oasis, and 4S in the forest
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>>171778905
>Just finished Route A, I'm liking 9S a lot more now that I'm actually playing as him. He's real shit in combat tho, so I just set my overpowered 2B to aggro mode and watch her kill everything.

He is not THAT bad.
You can do heavy attack by mashing RT+X(dodge and attack) and combos by swapping weapons on the go
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>>171779094
He definitely wants dat ass. Their entire story as told through both the games and their weapons is a tragic love story. Anyone who failed to pick up on the obvious cues is just being dense for the sake of being dense. and edgy too
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>>171778736
The dude just had a very bad day.
I can't blame him desu
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>>171779001
I thought the got virus'd because he attached 2B's arm to him
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>>171778938
>extensionalism
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>>171779179

The whole game with the main endings in 20-30 hours depending.

With everything it can be doubled.
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>tfw no pants mod for 2B
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>>171778940
>programmed to desire closeness and intimacy
>spends the entire game trying to make friends
>finds out that even if he did, all of them were ineivitably going to be killed off anyway
>ends up alone on a dead planet with every last shred of meaning and purpose in his life lost
9S did literally nothing wrong.
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>>171779179
depends.
I was stupid first play through took me 20h. If i wasn't it would be 15.
The rest are significantly shorter.
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>>171779223
I know that but more in the Novellas. He can't keep running forever from the shit he keeps building up to
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>>171779223

Don't forget the Machine virus looking like the white chlorination symptoms for some people.
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>>171778938
did you consider wether or not you were actually contributing anything before you posted this?

it's okay to like nier better than automata, you're not alone in that opinion. but the two games aim to achieve two different things with their characters and story. calling one dogshit just because it doesn't meet your expectations of what the game should be is unreasonable
>>
Who is best machine?
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>>171778092
Yes, but she told him 'there was no time' but in reality there was and she didn't want to have to face 2B and 9S when they inevitably learned the truth and that it was HER FAULT 2B had to kill him over and over again
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>>171779427
>>171779271
Too bad he's an unlikeable piece of shit. Literally never seen a more boring character attempting to be interesting
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>>171779179

Didn't really check, but I believe I spent 20ish hours on Route A doing nearly all sidequests. Ended up finishing Ending E at 54 hours at almost 100% game completion.
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>>171776893
I'm still confused about this mystery character, does it even exist at all in the game?
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>>171778128
Giant loli voiced by a man dressed in red was what they did
Did they really need to do anything else when the aliens are plants, their spaceships are shaped like flowers and said red loli talks about flowers
Not to mention the copied red eye disease is always spread by whoever is managing the network, ergo before the aliens were killed they would be doing this themselves
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>>171779497
King
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>>171779408

The only pants type clothing we need are in the game. >>171775071
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>>171779512
It's not 9S' fault you have autism
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>>171773571
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>>171779512
Well, that's, like, your opinion, dude.
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>>171779341
He was virus'd since he hacked Eve; he even shows up as the boss in the second tower with an identical moveset
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>>171779512
>9S
>unlikable
>boring
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>>171779497

Uncle pascal.
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>>171773571
unfortunately not very good after that
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>>171779713
>liking trannybot
Xe can go fuck xerself
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2B WO KOROSE
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>>171779770
>trannybot
Literally what are you on about?
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>>171779271
Oh just fuck off already
Anyone that isn't retarded and knows how stories are supposed to work knows this isn't a valid argument
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>>171779803
>lady voice
>uncle pascal
>>>/out/
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>>171778019
Ahh, that would make sense, yeah. Still, my explanation doesn't seem too out of place considering you as a player get to see all endings like you are some sort of omniscient entity and the achievement does seem to imply that.

>>171778076
>>171779547
See the post I replied to, that seems to be the answer. Kind of obvious when I think about it.
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>>171779803
>obviously female voice
>referred to as male
?
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>>171779713
Even in anothet universe being meguca is suffering
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>>171779850
>lady voice
It's a fucking robot, that doesn't make him a tranny you dumbass.
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>>171779830
Anyone who isn't retarded would pick up on the very obvious love story spelled out for you, you fucking autist.
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>>171779896
yes it does, the robots have gender roles. therefore it is a disgusting abhorrent trannybot that must DIE
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>>171779850
>implying machines actually have sexes, and that having a certain pitch of voice actually dictates their personality / being
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>>171779830
And anyone that isn't retarded would also be able to tell that the **** stands for fuck in this context.
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>>171773571
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>>171779998
>Father Machine
>Mother Machine
>Little Sister
>Big Sister
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>>171779910
>>171780014
Of course it's a love story you brainlets but you've literally fallen for the ruse if you think it's fuck and not kill
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>>171779874
I'm REALLY hoping it ends up being Caim in some fucking way. I don't care how you pull it out Taro, you brought up the watchers now bring my boi Caim and old Manah too
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>Half the people I know that are playing automata are saying shit like "THIS MIGHT BE MY GAME OF THE YEAR"
>I ask them where they are.
>Prologue/Still haven't finished route A.

These are the same people that would have dismissed the original Nier because it didn't grab their fucking ADHD asses attention within the first 20 minutes.

It shouldn't bug me, but it does.
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>>171779830
>how stories are supposed to work
>literally citing dead arguments from /v/ word for word that weren't made fun of because a thread fell off page 10 before anyone could reply
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>>171780014
I thought it stood for hold
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>ponytail 2B
MUH
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>>171780161

I can see Caim being in Nier somewhere but Manah wasn't anywhere Nier when they got sucked into Tokyo 2003.
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>>171780147
but they still don't have sexes, and the pitch of their voices didn't dictate the roles they chose for themselves.
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>>171780152
it's not kill you fucking autist jesus christ, take your edgelord delusions somewhere else
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>>171779780
Thank god I wasn't the only one who realised that too, jeez the two are similar.
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>>171763951
IIRC Yonah had no fucking chance.

Even the successful gestalt and replicant merges became fucked in the end.

Its odd because Automata is actually the most positive game Taro's made, that I'm aware of, with Ending E.
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>>171780258
I know, I just need a new waifu with a red dress.
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>>171778128
I prefer keeping the watchers in the Drakengard side of the world, since the Tokyo incident was mostly the result of something that wasn't meant to happen after all.
The Watchers and the flower are targeting a different world, and probably don't even know about this other world. The fact that the extinction of humanity was merely collateral damage gives it a vibe of irony, or perhaps a feeling of how insignificant we are against a greater force.
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Has anyone had any luck with this?

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/modder-has-figured-out-a-way-to-almost-double-the-performance-of-nier-automata/
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I hate that 9S is the optimal character for all the endgame content. Let me buy a hacking ability for A2 for 2 million bucks or something, I don't want to play as 9S ever again.

And I don't hate him as a character, but I'd much rather have my two weapons instead of the hacking shit and glorious android ass instead of the shota.
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>>171780323
its neither kill nor fuck, nor kiss, nor any one word.
if it were one word, they would have just spelled it out. the whole point of starring it out is to, at first sight, break the 4th wall, and then on retrospect realize that so many different words could have applied.
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>>171780459
>positive
>ending E
>just because the 3 of them survived

>meanwhile machine forces have no reason to fight anymore and will likely all kill themselves
>same for remaining androids once they realize humanity is long dead
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alright fuck this, I give up. If you fags still can't see why this game is trash compared to the original you're so far beyond help it's not worth trying to convince you anymore. Enjoy being a minority of a minority or whatever bullcrap you autists were trying to peddle before because that was all about you, not me.
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>>171779874
But if it is the player, why is there a voice actor?
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>>171780605
Wish there was more content that required either A2 or 2B.
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A2 is adorable and I like her a lot.
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>>171780681
You're all idiots, it's actually a phrase not a word
>you really want to make romance explosion happy time with 2B don't you?
and the answer is yes
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>>171780691
Stop trying to false lag nier fans.
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>>171780691
Okay.
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>>171780691
>minority of a minority
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>>171780691
Nostalgiafags are the most obnoxious parts of any sequel.
Kindly take a bullet to your brain and rid us of your ceaseless bullshit.
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>>171780161
Now we enter "headcanon" territory, but I doubt it. Assuming Caim is the leader of Legion (called Red Eye) pre-Nier, he is definitely kill by the time of Automata.

At least according to the wiki, Red Eye got straight up nuked in Jerusalem, only for a replicant literally a thousand year later to accidentally ressurrect it.

It managed to ressurrect itself and caused a 11 years lasting war, and got finally purged alongside the remaining Maso afterwards.

My headcanon is that Caim, heavily wounded by the air strike and in a state beyond sheer fury at Angelus death, struck a pact with the dying remains of the QB, allowing him to remain alive and turn others into monsters
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>>171780691
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>>171772803
>programmed to be a dumb bitch

More like programmed specifically to murder her best friend and probable love interest over and over again because he was intelligent and they knew he'd find out the truth about human extinction
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>>171780681
It's actually save, deep down he knows because he's too smart for his own good, he knows what's going to happen and how this will end and he wants to save her. He just doesn't know it until the very end
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>>171780782
She's wearing it backwards???
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>>171780691
Here you go my man
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>>171780691
why does it matter to you how other people feel about this game? its okay to like nier better than automata. and its okay for others to like automata, either better than or equal to or even just plainly in general like it.

what is the point of yelling at people to try to get them to align with your view point? or are you just trying to tell other people they're wrong so you feel vindicated?
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>>171779780
>Ruin is the Salvation of Man and Machine: NieR Sins
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>>171778128
Initially I was expecting some crazy shit to go down regarding that too, but I think I prefer the narrative being as self-contained as it is. Having the major conflict being something that's actually organically built up in the game and not a sudden mindfuck of space babies was probably for the best.

Save that for the DLC.
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>>171780948
A2 isn't very smart
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>>171780691
I prefer the original but relax mang, be happy that Taro finally has a critically successful game.
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>the first one wants to kill you because you killed his people
>the second one wants to kill you because you killed her brother
>the last one wants to kill you because you killed everyone they cared for and they have nothing left
Do you feel like a monster yet?
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>>171780691
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>>171780174
Would you rather people keep ignoring our lord and saviour Taro's work?
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>>171770610
Japs can never seem to get any PC ports right, atleast it was playable
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>>171780709
Obviously, my explanation is incorrect. I was just saying that ignoring that fact (just for the sake of it), it still made sense in my head. But what do I know.
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>>171781046
Nope, they attacked first and violated the NAP. now they must all die so that their children can't seek revenge
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>>171781046
No, because they're in my way.
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>>171781187
What does this say in the Japanese version?
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>>171780682
Then they can work on finding their own purpose. And probably murdering each other, because people are terrible.
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>>171780691
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>>171780836
I don't really think it's falseflagging, there are fans of Nier as rabid as fans of Undertale. Some of them are now throwing around Tarofag shitposts unironically because Automata came out, is very popular, and is a completely different game while still having Nier in the game.
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>>171763368
Possessed by a Disease from Automata and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbSwX2lRns0
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>>171780885
>tfw not even death could stop him from murdering
Truly the protagonist we needed.
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>>171780605
You know how you switch between A2 and 9S during that one boss fight? Would be PRETTY COOL if you could do that at will.
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>>171781127
It's genuinely a toughie y'know.
Any fanbase gets shittier as it grows.
I guess I don't mind if these nerds say this shit, finish Automata and then go to Taros other work. But I can't help but continue to feel this stick up my ass when it comes to people who'll play Automata, call it GOTY and then continue to ignore the other Taro games because they're "not fun" or some shit.
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>>171780885

Well.. white chlorination syndrome happens because the QB..FORCES a pact on people. Those who fail to accept it become salt and spread it to others. Those that accept become legion.
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>>171771938
I wouldnt even call them minigames
they're just simplistic shmup levels
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>>171780893

That's the joke.

Also i'm pretty sure they were counting on 9S to uncover it all as a part of data collection on how powerful to make the next models, if there are any.
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>>171781046
Not really since every sidequest is like that.
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>>171779780
Would have actually loved this game a lot more if it followed the Cashern world of everything is dying and robots are finally coming to terms with their mortality and seeking salvation rather than this kinda goofy endless war evolution.
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How do I make 9S gameplay tolerable? I've seen people recommending spear, but it's still shit, is there some specific combo that needs to be used? Small swords category seems to be the most tolerable one.
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>>171779780
LITERALLY
METAPHORICALLY
ABSOLUTELY
DID
N O T H I N G
WRONG
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>>171781641

Get witch time chip and hold charge the spear after dodging for maximum damage.
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>>171781641
You're still supposed to be hacking afaik, try the crit-sword(ancient overlord or w/e) or a spear with crit if you want to melt shit.
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>>171781375
Some people don't have the time or patience for tedious shit, regardless of the payoff. I was surprised and thankful I could jump back to the moment you choose between A2 and 9S and get the other ending rather than having to spend a few hours speedrunning back to that bit.

I was generally surprised by how accommodating most of the side quests were too. Maybe Taro is going soft in his old age.
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>>171781641
Spears + Cypress Stick crit build
Hold Square to fling that fukken Javelin with the spear. Repeat until enemy is dead.
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Why does eating stamps turn robots into zombies
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Is there a way to scale enemies to your level or something like that? I'd like playing with 2B a bit more especially now that I have the armor costume but all enemies are like level 10 while I am 60.
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>>171781547
>finally coming to terms with their mortality and seeking salvation
This is what Ending E is saying is possible but not likely, while Jackass
And what the machines pretty much do, even though N2 is justifying it differently.

>>171781683
I really didn't like how they used him in that anime at all. It felt like he was just there for the sake of putting the hat back on and fighting Casshern for fanservice after the story was over.
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>>171780716
wish you could play as 2b for more than one chapter + 10 minutes of extra gametime
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Can you actually only save one other player with your data or does it simply add your name and message to a global pool and they show up with a certain probability?
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>>171781547
Automata and Cashern Sins are already too similar to do that without people calling plagiary. Taro had to work with an already overdone trope so props to him for making it halfway decent.
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>>171780682
Still though man, it offers hope.

That's a major fucking thing for Taro.

>A future is not given to you. It is something you must take for yourself.
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>>171779341
Yeah that's what happened
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>>171781848
>while Jackass is about to go off doing her own thing, because she's as dead-end as the machines she wants to destroy
is what that should say
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So I've just started up Automata and I'm already running into a problem. I have been having no issues with FPS drops or anything like that even at max settings. I have the fullscreen fix installed.

However, I keep getting a bug where the screen turns white and I'm forced to exit out. This has happened three times now, all before I've been able to get to a save point, meaning I have to keep replaying the game's opening moments. I've noticed it happened twice while performing an aerial attack on an enemy.

Anyone else have this specific issue?
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>>171780682
Good/positive endings are relative depending on the point of view and how it affects specific characters.

Drakengard 3 True end could be considered a positive ending since the flower was sealed and Zero was released from her misery.
Or it could be considered a tragic/bittersweet since Zero had to sacrifice herself to stop the flower, and the watchers will reappear anyways. Not to mention none of the sisters could find a proper end to their lives.

So in this case, end E could be considered positive since the Ark will bring a future to the machines (the game tries to make you care about them) And if you think about it, the machines themselves could be considered mankind's indirect successors. Not carrying their genes or being their creation, get they try to take their place in the universe.
The Moonbase is safe, which means humanity could be reborn eventually if things go right. And finally there is hope that the androids will find their own place in the world, rather that just staying as mere foot soldiers for a race that disappeared long ago.
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>>171781934
Probably a pool, since I assume people lose like 5 players by the time they finish the minigame, meaning it wouldn't add up otherwise.
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>>171781934
Nothing confirmed but that's probably how it works
What we're sure about is that they get deleted when they get destroyed
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>>171782015
AMD gpu?
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>>171781781
>thankful I could jump back to the moment you choose between A2 and 9S
I actually disliked that a lot and wished chapter select didn't unlock until you did both ending D and E. I feel like being able to straight-up jump into ending D after ending C killed all immersion and the effect of it.
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>>171780782
I liked A2 more than 2B to be honest.
I like them both, but i ended caring more about A2.
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>>171782089
I kind of agree. Felt shitty to get ending D then INSTANTLY do C.
None of the buildup was there. I expected to at least have to redo the Tower.
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>>171782082

Yes, 480.
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>>171781354
>mfw the Maso has not been completely wiped out thanks to Emil still hanging around, and Terminals copying/simulating the Red-Eye disease causes magical shenaningans that makes it real, ressurrecting Caim YET AGAIN.

>mfw you commit enough murder to last not one, not two, not THREE but fucking FOUR (4) lifetimes.
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Reminder
Automata >>>>>>> Nier
Only autistic contrarian hipsters disagree.
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>>171782020
Popo and Devo already show that even androids with constant guilt programmed in can find comfort and happiness. There's also lots of other androids who go crazy after their loved one dies so they're on the right track, and YoRHa units can evolve beyond their original programming anyways since they use a machine core.
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Lads where can I find/farm new bolts? I'm still on my first playthrough shortly after the MIA mission
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>>171782203
Thought so.
Clean uninstall drivers and roll back to 16.11.5
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>>171782246
Stop making these types of posts, go make them on /v/ at least.
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>>171782182
I felt like A2 was just all edginess. You'd think what with her background she'd be after YoRHa rather than just the machines. I mean we don't get told about her past until the end of Route C but when she faces you in Route A/B she says "command betrayed you" like what else could that possibly mean.
It was nice for her to warm up to Pascal but still
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>>171781758
SMASHING
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>>171782335

Thanks, I'll try that.
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>>171782246
Now stop false flagging automata fans
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>>171782182
I enjoyed A2's arc being a reverse of 9S. She was disillusioned and nihilistic, but in the end she managed to give a damn about things again. 9S was still overcome with grief and wanted to burn the whole world down.
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>>171781848
Ending E isn't really about salvation per se, though. I feel like it's fine that Automata didn't really touch the themes of atonement and salvation present in Casshern, not only because I don't think it would have fit the narrative, but also because it probably just end up the same way Sins did.
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>>171777430
What if beep is what the androids are maintaining on the moon
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>>171782378
>>171782410
Just posting facts, there is no need to be upset.
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>>171782246
Shitposting aside I am slightly disappointed in Automata.

I mean its great. I love it. But music, bosses, and story are nowhere near as good as Nier.

But then the actual gameplay is much better. And even though the story isn't AS good, its still good; same with the music.
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>>171782246
Could you be any more transparent? Go away.
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>>171781641
>Fast cooldown +8
>Hold pod special blade/bomb and kite the enemy
>Hack small enemy
>Your pod special is ready again instantly
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Why were machines trying to emulate humans anyway?
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/v/ eternally btfo'd
i can taste the salt
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I just read a quick summary but still have some questions about the story line leading up to Automata. Project Gestalt is suppose to separate the soul from the body and the body is called the Replicant. But then the Replicant becomes sentiment and does what ever on it's own. How does the Replicant avoid white chlorination syndrome? When the Gestalt woke up the Replicant rejected the Gestalt, how did the Gestalt fight the Replicant to reclaim their bodies?
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>>171782650
Replicants don't get WCS.
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>that army of 2Bs
"Special prize", alright.
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>>171782460
Or maybe the bad gameplay made you appreciate the story more.
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>roof collapses after 2B model explodes
>Nines is lying next to another 2B model
>gently places her hand on his face and stares lovingly into her dead eyes
>rips her fucking arm off and shoves it onto his stump
Jesus christ Taro take it easy
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Anyone else prefer Papa Nier rather than Brother Nier?
I think a father's love feels more fitting to Nier's struggle rather that a big brother. (not saying a brother can't love his sister to that extent, but a father makes more sense.)
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>>171782579
They stated the aliens were almost like an unthinking and unchanging virus, while the humans were novel and interesting and unique and self determining.

Thats basically it.
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>>171782579
Because humans were their best model for being sapient beings. Strange that it wasn't their alien masters, but perhaps they were less successful/interesting to the machines.
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>>171782182
2B has a better butt therefore she is the better girl
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>>171782460
It's the characters that aren't as strong as Nier's. The story is twice as good.
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>>171772392
buy the fucking game.
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>>171782650
Replicants were engineered with an immunity to WCS.
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>>171782745
I think a lotta people do prefer Papa Nier actually.
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>>171782089
>>171782187
Well, I mean, you didnt HAVE to jump to the choice. Thats kind of the point of chapter select
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>>171782745
>Anyone else prefer Papa Nier rather than Brother Nier?
Everyone?
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>>171772312
t. IGN
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>>171782745
I have only played the papa nier version but I liked that you didn't play some girly boy in a japanese RPG. I don't know why but I think older characters usually have more narrative weight behind them than the typical young hero.
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>>171782604
Fuck zelda desu
>>171782794
Commander
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>>171782724
Though the Black Scrawl later got to them.

>>171782726
Machine hive mind is outright sadistic.

>>171782738
Taro has no chill when it comes to robot tragedies.

>>171782745
The brother/sister thing makes more sense in Japan (cultural thing), but I agree.
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>>171775696
Is there a video of FOR THE FOREST KING?
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I've noticed the concepts of survivor's guilt, and being reunited with someone through death appear a lot in Automata.
A2 and Anemone think about dying to be reunited with their old squadmates, 9S and 2B both have thoughts of being together in death, Emil calls out to Kaine in his last moments, etc.
Discuss
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>>171782913
The option of it being there alone kills immersion.
And at the end of the day, I'm a human being. I'll take the path of least resistance any day.
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>>171782745
I think most prefer papa nier.

Literally a cultural difference though. I think making two versions was the smart thing to do.

In Japan they value sibling relationships as being more meaningful and powerful than parent/child relations. In the west, its the other way round. Make two versions. Boom.
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>>171782246
I agree but shitposting and baiting isnt the way to go about it.
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>>171782991
>immersion
>in a third person action game
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>>171782948
>Though the Black Scrawl later got to them.

Thats because their gestalts fully relapsed.

Which apparently happened even to "successful" mergings.

We never had a chance.

RIP humanity.
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>>171782745
Huge dad Nier is best Nier. The unconditional love between parent and child was a nice touch, and a good fit for the western market.
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>>171783076
>a game that would be nothing without its story
>not being immersed in said story
What gave you the idea that you can only be immersed in an FPS?
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>>171782985
What's there to discuss? You're correct that it's a theme, and survivor's guilt is a real thing. Losing someone close to you also tends to provoke a bit of nihilism, especially if you feel like there's nobody else left in your life.

That everyone is trapped in a pointless, millennia long war probably doesn't help either.
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EVERYDAY'S A SALE
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>finish route C
>decide to go with A2 because I don't like Nines much
>get this stupid ending of a moose staring at Nine's sword
wut
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has anyone done a bare fist run?
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>>171780526
>yfw they start fighting each other after, you leave them to kill each other and realize the remaining 3 or 2 are mentally retarded.
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Post favorite songs
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwAz_qC8Oo8
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>>171783203
I dunno I just kinda thought it was interesting, and whether this is a concept you would agree with. Like if someone you loved died would you kill yourself to be with them again
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>>171783173
Unconditional, but at the same time you could tell that Nier didn't want to spend all his time with Yonah. He spends a LOT of time away from home, and when he's there it seems like he struggles to connect with her. Which makes the whole situation that much more sad.
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>>171782020
NEVER MADE IT TO THE MOON
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>>171783319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UCHsiy8ZHo
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>>171783228
Moose is the new humanity. You have been riding and hunting them down like simple animals, when they have been the silent keepers of humanity since the fall of man
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>>171783319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlYAIALi_xU

here you go
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>>171783319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgMRNiEPPYg

Preferred this version, but it was nice to hear it redone.
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>>171782745
I prefer Brother NieR since I can relate to him because of a personal experience
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>>171783335
It's an understandable thing to believe in and desire if you've got nothing else left. And in the game's setting all that anyone has is their friends. Friends who are quite prone to dying suddenly in an endless war.
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>yfw 2E
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>>171783352
I think it's a combination of his love of killing shades, lack of money, and the unbearable sight of his only daughter slowly dying.
That and her cooking sucked.
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>>171783228
Ending D is better in a personal scale.
Ending C is better as part of the macro.

I prefer leaving ending D as the one that leads to ending E.
Ending C is better for explaining things and answering questions.
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>>171783319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6EwwGwmfM0
This song has been appearing in my dreams lately.
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>>171783319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIeVc1yE4TY

Best boss? Best boss.
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This is the third thread i've asked for a gif of a2's butt while walking

Why won't people post A2's butt? Is there some conspiracy?

does she have no butt or a sideways butt or something
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>>171783228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egptlC4rKOc
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>>171783726
They have the exact same base model
No one gives enough of a shit to go into the game for you and make a gif of it
Make it yourself
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>>171783319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5YChAFjxks
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>>171781846
pls resbond ;_;

I just want to play with 2B but not oneshot everything.
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>>171783726
No, she's got the better ass, but most people already settled on 2B as their waifu
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I initially thought all the Goliaths would be more like Engels; modular and being constructed from human structures like vehicles and buildings, put together from machinery to create gargantuan mechanical frankensteins built for destruction. But Simone was a better boss fight because it was an actual fight rather than a sequence of small minibosses showing you don't stand a chance leading up to cutscenes and a finale that is only possible because of a cutscene
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>>171783618
It's wretched to be around a loved one with an incurable disease. Resentment for dependants is a real thing that people caring for others often deal with. Though if Nier felt any of that he kept it very, very well hidden.

>>171783675
Best boss for the sheer surprise of getting hacked for the first time.
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>>171783815
>They have the exact same base model

uh you can glance at them and see they dont
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>>171783726
A2 is pure, 2B is the Lewdbait.
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>>171783675
Definitely the most Cashern boss.
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>>171783890
And then you can rip their models and put them over each other and see that they do
Clothes are not part of the base model
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>>171783606
>or not to [BE]
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>>171781846
>>171783820
Not that anyone's discovered. It'll either involve modding or the devs patching something in.

>>171783902
A2 is halfway towards becoming one of the destroyed androids you find lying about.
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>A2 cuts her hair

FUCK YOU!!!!111
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>>171783902
It's always funny when people get introduced to a game through a character and then settle into an elitist attitude and believe anybody liking said character is retarded. It happened with Overwatch and Tracer. It's kinda sad really. We can appreciate all girls for all their strengths and understand their faults.
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>>171783675
Best boss until the second form kicks in, then its just groundpound spam and soundwave spam.
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Where the fuck can I get Moldavite and Memory Alloys from? it's the only thing I'm missing from getting all the weapons upgraded and it's driving me nuts.
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>>171784024
>he doesn't like short hair
Gotta cut your hair, girl
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>>171783865
>Nier kept it well hidden.
It's funny because the resentment is more apparent with Brother Nier, or at least that what I've seen. True though, as a father and the duty of a parent, it easier to keep resentment over your offspring under wraps. But brother Nier has a harder time of that, especially ever since the whole prostitution thing.
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>>171783606
I didn't get this. At the end of B the commander gives literally hands you the the truth but how would she know you didn't already begin to suspect it earlier have it saved in the servers? Unless they completely wipe his memory, but then how would 9S know about it like A2 says he does. Or does 2E just kill him every time he gets infected with the logic virus? Couldn't an actual B model do that?
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>>171783827
>A2
>2A
>2B
>when she cuts her hair they look really similar
I honestly thought the end twist was gonna be something like "oh, she's actually a clone of my model, we're the same"
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>>171765241
>tfw I needed help when Square-Enix kicked it up a notch
>received help
>sacrifice my data to help others
>don't even care it's all gone

I finally became a seigi no mikata
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>>171783827
>shes got the better ass
You're welcome to like A2 but you shouldn't just make shit up.
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I could understand when Nines killed a horde of 2B models.
But taking on a squad of flight units on foot?
The fuck they stuffed inside the guy?
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Is Y the only non ABCDE ending that contains significant story content?
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>>171784101
>ever since the whole prostitution thing.
The what now? This isn't a detail I was aware of.

>>171784127
Hey, close enough. 2B was patterned on A2's personality as an Executor type.
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>>171784127
>>171784079
>>171784024
The hair being cut was to make people watching the trailers think that you'll get to play as something like of a "punished" version of 2B later on, but it was just A2 all along.
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>>171784180
I assume the canon way 9S went through everything is via hacking abuse; his boss battle as A2 even has him use it against you. But most players probably got bored of the same 7-8 shmup mini-games the first 4 hours of playing as him.
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>>171783915
I hated how Simone was the only boss to get this treatment.
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>>171784180
Grief.
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>>171784296
Brother Nier sold his boyhole for money.
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>>171784296
There's a novella where pre-teen Nier had to sell his body to an old man at Seafront for his sister's medicine.
He later kills the man during a shade hunt, but the resentment towards himself and his sister remained.
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>>171784346
tfw we still don't have a punished pascal picture. a hero denied his village
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Has anyone found a good build for dual heavy swords on anything above normal?
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>>171784542
Sounds like Berserk
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>>171784296
>tfw you felt pity for the Type E with amnesia and then realize 2B is literally the same.
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I keep hearing about a Tower but im on my 2nd playthrough and havent seen shit yet. Neither have i seen devola or popola. Am i gonna have to do another playtrough?
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>>171784654
Reminder that 2B didn't become like that probably because of 9S constantly putting his ass on the line for her
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>>171784714
just play the game
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>>171784654
2B doesn't have amnesia, as early as your first trip to the bunker it's >implied that 9S has died several times before when she clenches her fist after meeting up with him and he doesn't remember anything after the rendevouz

She also freaks out in the prologue mission when he's about to die
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>>171784732
I didnt even realize that
holy shit
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>>171784056
Moldavite lies around on gorund in forest i think.
Emil's shop for memory alloys
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>>171784714
You bought the Pod Scanner from Devola and Popola, bruh.
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>>171784714
Keep playing. You'll see some shit eventually.
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>>171784625
We don't talk about Donovan.
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Question about Gestalt. When I'm on my 3rd time is there any difference between the playthrough for ending C and D or can I just save before the final boss, view ending C then reload the save and watch ending D. The novelty of collecting the key pieces for the 4th time will have worn off by then.
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>>171784758
Im about to fight eve so im guesding i fucked up somewhere.
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>>171784714
Routes A and B are the same except seen from different perspectives.
It only gets different after that.
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>>171784732
Are those quotes real or anon fanfic?
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>>171784714
Just climb the tower Senpai.
...wait.
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>>171784878
You didn't
Play the game
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>>171784859
I was talking about Griffith selling his body but that too
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>>171784901
An anon wrote em.
I mostly put them in the screenshot to give context to the 2nd post which was the focus
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>>171784125
Remember 9S is the smartest android model ever. He is always paired up with 2B because he will always eventually come to the truth thanks to how curious he is.
He always dies and I hope you're not interpreting the "It always end like this this" as that the exact same thing happens. She just means that it always ends with her killing 9S

For example: http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07/nierautomata-world-guide-novellas/

The commander already knew he already had his suspicions she just decided to outright confirm it for him.
As for 9S knowing about it, this is one of the few times he is left alive longer that usual so it's already quite clear to him what 2B was for. In the novella linked above you should see something similar.
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>>171785000
Aight thats good then.
I have seen posts of Nines with adams glasses? Can i get those in game?
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>>171784878
no you didn't . Just keep at it
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>>171784874
You get chapter select after finishing either C or D, you don't have to do save file fuckery.
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>>171785190
yeah, it's some meme item drop
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>>171785190
>I have seen posts of Nines with adams glasses? Can i get those in game?
you can
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>>171785190
Yeah at Route C you can find Adam/Eve's table in the city ruins. The glasses will be there. Hint: it's at a spot you couldn't access in Route A/B
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>>171784714
The tower is in the third playthrough, just keep going
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>>171781223
He wants to love his waifu.
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>>171785237
They're asking about the original Nier, not Automata.
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So can someone clear this up for me. Did 9S know what 2B really was and what her purpose really was the entire time? How would that be possible when they presumably wiped his memory whenever she had to take him out?
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Is bare fists just a meme or does the multi hit acruelly make it not shit.
I noticed it doesn't have a dodge counter like other weapons and feels very sluggish.
Wish there was a way to upgrade the fists. I want to be a robo-monk.
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So are there two fights with Emil or just one? I've read somewhere you fight him in his house if you take some items there but I've also seen some videos about him being in the desert after you upgrade all weapons.
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>>171785349
Oh.
I forgot NA version was named Gestalt and not RepliCant.
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>>171785363
Him ending up in the machine network and going through YoRHa's server along with being captured by Adam made 2B unable to intervene and stop him. It's up to interpretation whether he knew about 2B's intents beforehand
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>>171785190
Yep, in your third runthrough. Very beginning building you start on, at the ground floor there's an elevator shaft and a ladder you can climb up. You'll find them on Adam and Eve's table.
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>>171785432
>I've read about <fight in one location>
>but I've also seen a vid about <fight in different location>
put 1 and 1 together
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Eve did nothing wrong.
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>>171784829
Just got the memory alloys, I'm trying to search for moldavite but nothing yet.
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What weapons are best for 9S?
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>>171785739
as >>171779106 mentioned, spears and combat bracers do well. Use hax too
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>>171785739
Spear of the Usurper Lv. 4
You get a pseudo "1-hit" kill on an enemy, that also turns them friendly and helps you fight others
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>>171785739
The spear
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>>171785739
Emil heads
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>>171785363
I think he did. In the novella from the world guide book he's also trying to ambush her before she could attack him if I remember correctly?
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>>171785509
>It's up to interpretation whether he knew about 2B's intents beforehand
This is the part that confused me. I've seen some say he knew the whole game, and it made their interactions more interesting. But I was under the impression he hadn't found out until later and 2B was the only one dealing with the trauma through route A/B
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>mfw ending T
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>>171785739
Pressing triangle.
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Am I the only one who didn't think the chemistry between 9S and 2B was very good? Other than the 2E and 9S's boner for her, there wasn't any good back and forth between them compared to the characters from the other titles. Caim and Angelus, NieR and the gang, 0 and Mikhail etc.
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>>171786209
Wasn't very good*
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>>171786209
I agree for the most part but I think they had a good excuse for 2Bs coldness in this case
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>>171786209
>there wasn't any good back and forth between them compared to the characters from the other titles
That's the whole point.
2B is trying to distance herself from 9S so she doesn't break down crying every time she has to kill him to reset him. It's why she refuses to call him Nines even though she wants though, as shown by her accidentally blurting it out in the castle.
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Where is the fastest place to grind exp in Automata once I've unlocked chapter select? Lost Child seems ok since those enemies scale to your level but I'm still levelling slower than expected even with exp boosts
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>>171782579
hoomans=interesting
ayylmaos=boring
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>>171785363
>>171786038

He didn't know the whole time. He probably realized later.
After all there is a mission(YorHa Betrayers) where 2B actually does her E-Type mission with 9S alongside him, but there was an added excuse just to make sure 9S wasn't entirely aware.
Later on when you do the amnesiac sub quest 9S finds out that E-Type models exist.
Seeing how 9S is very smart I think he started connecting the dots after that.

This is also wouldn't be the first time a 9S unit has found out about who 2B really is as seen in
http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07/nierautomata-world-guide-novellas/
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>>171786425
>>171786402
I guess so. I suppose it just didn't work for me.
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>>171785427
This may be a dumb question but pls respond.
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2B got messed up by four flight units while fleeing from the Bunker, while 9S killed six of them on foot.
What a real American badass.
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>>171785363
The insinuation is that 9S must have realized deep down inside the moment he found out about humanity's extinction, because he's intelligent af.
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>>171786574
Fuck, I didn't even think about 2B's role in that first sidequest.
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>>171786628
You'll get other fist weapons
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>>171786696
He is one of the highest end models after all
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>>171786696
2B is an Execution model, not a Battle model.
She's there to execute single targets, not fight large-battles. Yes that kinda contradicts the game where she's fighting like 20 machines at a time, but it's the idea.
And Nines is a state of the art android.
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am i retarded or is hard supposed to be significantly more difficult than normal

all the bosses kill me in one hit, and then i have to do the fucking prologue again. i've done this like 10 times already
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>>171786574
>tfw 9S is smarter than me
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>>171786828
Yea it's one of things that made me realize that side quests are actually very important in this game.
Because at some points you connect the dots or something is reveled and those extra details the side quests give really cement them or give them that extra punch in the gut.

Whenever I recommend this game now I make sure to stress how worthwhile the payoff of the sidequests aside from their immediate side narrative.
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>>171787001
>put the spoilers in plain text and the thing that should be plain text in spoilers

Anon pls
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>>171786425
And by her saying before dying and as her last message in her flight unit when she's fairly certain she won't see him again
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>>171786696
9s is the protagonist for the game nier needed, not the one we wanted

>>171784732
wait

what

he knew that she needed to kill him so he purposefuly took paths of self destruction to save her and succeed on his mission?

the sword he was not supposed to have could potentially contain his memories from her killing him, along with why. S models were not supposed to be armed after all
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>>171787043
Hard and Very Hard are considered broken in this game.
Hard is like, every boss one shots you without defense item. A charging animal will kill you nonetheless.

Just do a normal mode and change it to hard midgame.
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>>171781028
>tfw happy Taro getting some public love for once but sad because Automata to me is the least enjoyable out of all his games
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>>171786696
Hacking is OP, bruh.

>>171787043
Do not play the prologue on Hard the first time through. It's insanely difficult.
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>>171787318
No, that's not it. He just liked her enough to give himself up for her, it just probably ended up working in 2B's favor. Again this is all speculation
>>
When are we going to get DoD3 with a solid framerate?
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>>171787043
Common consensus is that even if you want to play the game as a whole on hard you should clear the tutorial on normal, becasue as you're obviously aware by now there's no saving at all so you're forced to redo everything. Once you clear that there are save points all over to help you out.
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>>171787380
Wait i can change difficulty midgame?
I also noticed if I select my Route C cleared file i can click "start game" and it starts a new game. Would I be able to go for NG+ and change difficulty to hard by doing that?
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>>171784125
commander only knew something was amiss and that a secret needed to be holded

she must have noticed the secret was not healthy for them and could use 9S to confirm it, even if it means to kill him herself if the secret was worth protecting.

wich wasnt. this is likely why she protected the couple when yorha got fucked, she realized the secret was a weapon against her.
>>
Has anyone made a list of the sidequests that give actual important lore snippets? I was planning on playing the game through again but I don't want to end up doing the pointless reward sidequests.
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>>171787043
I didn't switch to hard until end of the first playthrough.

The only reason I can deal with it is because muh levels and because +30% melee defence and +50% hp

Its annoying because normal is way too fucking easy and Hard is too unforgiving.
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So what was her end-game? What was her plan?
Cause even with genocide on her plate, she seems fairly normal.
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>>171787546
How do people die on the tutorial? All the windows are wide and shits piss easy still.
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>>171784289
Yes
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>>171786209
I think it was very well made, albeit maybe a bit too subtle and sparingly, which also makes sense in the context. You can see how 2B gets very emotional during the fight with Engels. Later in the bunker she wants to thank 9S for uploading her data and he says he doesn't remember doing that because he uploaded just her data and not his. She clenches her fist and goes immediately back to cold bitch mode at that point.
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>>171787765
To get dick before she dies a virgin.
She doesn't.
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>>171787681
You can, but if I recall right you can't change it in prologue for some reason.
>>
Never spent this much time talking about a Taro game before.
It really is better than the last Nier isn't it
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>>171784289
ending L is probably the ending that will branch off into the next nier desu
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>>171787489
All the same, Automata's great, and we can argue till the cows come home which one is better but they both clearly stick with us and everybody's preferences are different.
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>>171787121
I enjoy how sidequests you can do extremely early later get a much somber meaning later in the game or end in tragedy due to other events. It gives an extremely bitter feeling.

>go find the robot sister in the desert
>"heh that was kinda cute"
>later find their dead bodies clinging to each other when Pascal's village goes insane
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>>171787489
Well Automata is the least Taro game Taro has made so it's fine.
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>>171787954
It's good in a different way. Sequals shouldn't have to one-up the previous, it should just be its own thing done right.
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>>171787765
She's probably the most normal intoner as far as a intoner can get anyways.
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>>171788040
I disagree
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>>171787954
Most of 4chans userbase is obviously PC players, so Automata actually being available on PC allows a great percentage of users to talk about it.
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Died from those stupid exploding head things, one popped out of the ground and 1 shot me, but it won't let me go back to the area to collect my body. If I try to run down there again I just get this.

What do?
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>>171787765
>>171788079
Is she or Two more mentally stable?
I feel like - despite Two having childrens and not being a virgin - she's more pure than Four could ever hope to be.
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>>171784874
Please respond
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>>171787765
>her end-game
Headpats from One.
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>>171788107
Okay.
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>>171786696
9S destroys an army of 2Bs and even if they were underperforming compared to real 2B, it's still a fucking army of executioner androids with swords.
Between his self-taught combat style and overpowered hacking he's by far the most dangerous YoRHa unit and his rampage was only stopped by a model with 200 years of combat experience and limiter remover, and even then she had hacking assist from the pod.
So i'm really not surprised about the flight unit scene. It fits narrative perfectly.
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>>171787489
Not surprising if you love his mindfucks considering Automata has the least. Also the characters besides 9S weren't given much development.

>>171788040
Gameplay-wise it's a whole new height for Taro, story-wise I'd agree.
>>
>Discovering Pascal's ruined village as 9S before I've done it as A2

Who else did this?
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>>171787765
Finally washing herself down there
>>
>ywn get to sniff Mikhail's big musky dragon cock
why live?
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>>171788114
I wasn't talking about the number of people talking about it. I was talking about how much there is to talk about.
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>>171787765
>>171788079
Did you not read her memoirs? She was an extreme bitch on top of the genocide thing. She bitched about every single fucking thing including herself as she was dying.
She's a more rotten person than Five. Five was greedy and lustful but showed signs of growing out of that. She was just being a shitty teen I guess, as she was the youngest sister.
>>
You guys know what i need now?
New Platinum + Taro fantasy game
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>>171788208
That's the thing, Two is pure and basically a living saint, Four in comparison is a moody cunt trying to make a living while not being particularly good or bad besides the whole "we must genocide all the knife ears" thing.
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>>171787765
She's flat and she's shit
>likes sweets and justice
what a fag
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>>171788495
my kind of girl, i eat sweet shit all the time
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>>171786828
She had a hard life.
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>>171788278
Speaking of which, do you see Pascal or not if you discover the ruined village as 9S?
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>>171788007
>path c
>A2
>pascal and robo friends need help
>"tee hee, i'm making her like them!"
>get all the items for sidequests
>"Now I can do pascal's story mission and turn them all in at once!"

I was not fucking ready. Hit me like a fucking punch to the gut. I was really upset that Pascal was forced to fight. I was upset he was forced to shout he was going to murder. Walking back to the factory I was literally muttering "taro you fuck let us have this one let them be alive you fucking fuck" under my breath. My god. eyes started to water. Fucking children committing suicide out of fear. Taro you SICK FUCK
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>>171788495
Is she the most bullyable?
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>>171788007
>robot sister
That quest was pretty funny
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>>171788461
>Scalebound's cancellation was part of Taro's 4D Chess to get DoD4 directed by Kamiya
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>>171787001
Also, during the events of the game what we see from 2B is rather uninspiring compared to the shit both 9S and A2 do. Even when she fights, 9S is the one who saves her perfect ass during pretty much any story arc.
She even kinda acknowledges it.
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>>171788495
>literally "flat is justice"
no wonder Zero hates her
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>>171788193
alt+f4

You have to replay from your save (from before you died, i hope), but you keep chips.

Like I said, if its from before you died. If you saved after you died, you're going to have to play the game till it lets you circle round and go back up.
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What do you think A2 smells like?
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>>171788647
>mysterious moonman laughs mischievously at your anguish.tiff
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>>171787709
Amnesia, The Wandering Couple, YoRHa Betrayers and Gathering Keepsakes (though that one requires Emil's quest too) for starters?
Compiling location and when they pop up would be neat too.
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>>171788231
IIRC you can just save and view. I would still back up your save data for D, though.
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>>171788603
>>
NEW ROUTE UNLOCKED
THREE MORE TO GO
>>171788907
>>171788907
>>171788907
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>>171788845
Horrible.
Androids don't bathe and A2 has literally been living out in the dirt for the past 200 years.
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>>171788818
Circling around again worked, not sure why it wouldn't let me back from that side though, I had already done the Adam story part and was just looking around the area again. Thanks.
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Wait the 2nd intoner(blue hair girl) has children? What?
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>>171787709
All the operator quests
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>>171787709
I don't have a list, but you also have to factor which quests reward weapons, and that one sidequest that unlocks the shop for meteorite & meteorite shards
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>>171788845
Oil, rotting synthetic flesh(used silicon), and mud.
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>>171788621
no I didn't see Pascal, it was only after I've done the deed through A2 that Pascal appears
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There are people on this planet RIGHT NOW that only got ending A and stopped.
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>>171788603
>[E]nd of YoRHa

TARROOOOOOOOOOOO
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>90% of the 2B fanart comes from faggots who have never played any of the games
>A2 doesn't get nearly as much fanart as she deserves

Is there literally A2 isn't better than 2B at?

>>171789714
I tell everyone going into Automata to treat Ending A as Part A instead.
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>>171788647
>>171789006
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>>171789763
>"People are not allowed to have different tastes than me"
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>>171786449

Golden bunny eared robot in the amusement park.

If you don't know how to make him attack you, either hack into a robot them hack into the statue, or use the pod blade programe twice or so on the statue.
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>>171789962
Yes and?
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>>171789763
90% of 2B fanart existed before the game even came out, calm the fuck down.
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>>171788647
I do like how Taro makes me like his world and characters in it and then proceeds to make them all suffer while all I can do is watch.
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>>171787545

Ps3 emulation is getting better. Maybe in 5 years.
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Maybe I'm a pleb, but I'm just not seeing what's so great about spears on 9S. Can someone elaborate for me?
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>>171789763
She's better at enduring suffering
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>>171791790
hold attack does great damage, is fast, got range and a large hitbox
regular attacks have good range and speed, especially if you use phoenix lance
No massive imbalance between the weapons, if you think people try to imply that
Speaking of hold attacks, fist hold attack on 9s is bonkers
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>>171781370
Underrated post
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>>171780605
>let me use hacking on a2
>because i prefer 2 weapons over hacking
?_?
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I need memory alloys, where the hell can I get them ?
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