Eve Online general /eog/

>Drake victory skin

XDDDD FC can I bring Drake XD

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What's a good way to make isk?

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thoughts on the Sunesis for exploration?

>>171724308
sell it

>>171724303
How is this even possible?

>>171723864
How did this master of shitfits made it to the CSM?

>>171725039
by sucking dick, like all of them

>>171725039
Because he's 3rd Party Tools APIs N Shit Guy

How overpowered and cancerous will the CONCORD ships be?

>>171726140
probably just barely overpowered

>>171726140
either autistic OP or gnosis-tier garbage

>>171726140
I predict faggy kiteshit like everything

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>>171726448

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https://zkillboard.com/kill/60970335/

>>171728510
>you make money faster than train skills
No shit

>>171725039
>pvp fittings are the only part of eve
What did he mean by this

>>171728908
yes

>Decide to roam around looking for shit to kill
>Travel interceptor
>Travel interceptor
>Tengu
>Travel interceptor
>Tengu
You guys said there would be fun

The fuck happened to Amarr?

https://eve-marketdata.com/station.php?step=Rank

>>171727654
Kill me

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>>171729468
>yfw amarr drops below hek

>>171729468
I don't mind it. Slower hubs, more profit, less competition.

>>171728786
How the fuck did MLJ even have that much isk?

>>171730559
I honestly have no idea.

not pupper

>>171724504

Sent from their alt

>still no eog corp for apocalypse pilots

>>171729383
Just fly an instalock ship

>>171730559
Not everyone in it was retarded, just a large majority.

>>171734113
I was taking a vacation off this game so whats the changes in PLEX exactly?

>The PLEX Vault will allow you to move PLEX safely throughout the universe rather than having to move it in a ship
This is pretty clear, no question.

> Smaller PLEX

>The first component of our plan is focused on making PLEX more flexible. Currently, PLEX is rather large. By always existing as a one-month chunk of subscription time, PLEX can be cumbersome to buy and trade. We think it would be great if it could be broken into smaller units that fit your needs rather than always being bound to the size of 30 days.
Great, 3 days PLEX then?

Then the follow ups have this:

>30 Days at A Time

>First, we want to emphasize that there are currently no plans to sell game time in portions smaller than 30 days. We noticed that some of you made the fair assumption that because PLEX was becoming granular, it would mean subscription time would be granular as well. This is not the case. Our current plan is that PLEX will only be redeemed for game time in 30 day chunks, just like now. If you were worried about seeing cyno alts subbed for 3 hours at a time, don’t worry.

Does this mean they are just breaking PLEX into smaller chunks for trading purpose but to actually redeem them to game time you still have to gather a full amount for 1 PLEX?

>>171735263
Oops didn't mean to quote, sorry.

>https://zkillboard.com/ship/35833

Successful op guys!

point defence is fucking retarded though desu

>>171735263
Yes, but it also means they're killing hilarious plex tank kills.

>>171735559
but that also means >highsec pvpers are probably butthurt

>>171735617
When are
>highsec pvpers
Not butthurt about something?
CODE is just an physical embodiment of how butthurt James 315 is about the solo nature of mining.

>>171734113
A large majority???

They peaked at 11 memebers how do 11 newbros get 300m while losing 5 mil explo herons to gatecamps in lowsec every 3 hours?

>>171736424
The ceo put his own ISK into the corp wallet while also buying frigates from some highsec mining corp that he supposedly bullied into selling him for 10% above jita prices.

Also it was only ~160m, I would know I was the one who stole it.

>>171736424
Again, maybe 3 members (CEO included) knew what was going on. The memer above was a welper, as were most people who are on here complaining about exploration (It's the same two).

>>171736542
>10% above Jita
>...
Stilte, still no reply to my email about why you would bother awoxing far less than you welped.

>>171736756
the real reason i left was cause RL stuff stopped me from playing and it was getting boring teaching newbros to pvp.

I had a lot of fun the first little bit even tho we didnt have many successful roams cause the newbros were learning and having fun so i went with it.

Why wouldnt i take some free isk even if it was a small amount? The corp was dying and I had to leave regardless.

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>>171737106
>bothering to steal 300mil?
>"uhhh, uhhh, I had IRL stuff on and I thought, why not steal a meaningless amount of money before I left"

I mean, I can't blame you, I got tired of the constant bitching about
>muh explo
>muh mining
>muh fits
>muh dual webs
from players which genuinely have never even given something a proper shot.
However to bother stealing something like that shows you are a bigger cuck than I initially believed.

>>171737350
>make corp
>specifically pitch it as a corp for noobs
>get pissed about noobs not knowing how to play the game
Watching MLJ crash and burn was fucking great. /dog/ meme corps in general make good entertainment.

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Join xXDRONELANDSXx today! Plenty of quiet systems for ratting. Rent prices are reasonable. Comrade xXDEATHXx is looking for you.

>>171737350
Are you really this buttblasted that I stole 160m?

How the fuck do I into industry?

>>171737634
>buy ammo blueprint original from NPCs
>find quiet engineering complex
>research it to full
>make ammo while you wait for T2 manufacturing skills to train
>manufacture T2 mods
>turn a tidy profit for minimal effort

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>>171737450
>make corp for /dog/ posters to enjoy not being a part of a reddit-tier conglomerate
>everyone who applies is new to eve, and new to 4chan
>decide I can try and work with this, maybe actual /dog/ posters will come along later
>noobs not improving
>all they can do is repeat ironic shitposts
>no one can stop welping constantly
>no one else gets involved because we are counter-memed to shit by the remnants of puppet shit station
>have to take short break
>come back to find only other person who can play eve and lurks has awoxed $2 worth

Serves me right desu. Was hoping for a community, got a shitfling. I suppose a Reddit-corp is more docial, so the autistic gentleman was right after all.

>>171737515
More so bemused that you bothered to steal it.

>>171737915
After I stopped doing the noob teaching roams everyone just stopped logging in. Also it took all of 3 clicks to steal the isk and 3 more for the frigs idk why I wouldnt just take it.

Either way in my opinion the corp was successful for the short time it was alive in that it was fun and taught some newbros how to play. Just cause its dead now doesnt mean it was a waste of time.

>>171738239
Awoxing is a cuck move, regardless of how easy it can be.

It failed it's goal, I wanted to get dogposters together in game for dank stratpaps, not tutor retarded newfags and listen to pointless whinging the whole time I logged on.
Glad I made it on an alpha alt desu, knew something bad would happen.

>>171738372
If you want to be bitter about it thats fine, it was described the way it turned out so I guess if thats what kind of corp you want you should make it more obvious.

I agree that teaching newbros how to play got boring fast tho the supreme gentleman in phorde and BNI must really enjoy that elite vet feel to keep doing that shit.

>>171738372
>It failed it's goal, I wanted to get dogposters together in game for dank stratpaps,
dog posters are the most retarded and useless people in this game. why the fuck would you want anything to do with them?

>>171738530
I thought it would be obvious that there is not much point joining a 4chan corp if you don't even lurk often.

>>171738674
Because I wanted a retarded and useless corp where everyone can act retarded and useless without worrying about their reputations, because it was among equals.
Pretty much the reason 4chan was created in the first place.

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>>171737450
>tfw Autistic Sharks was 10 years ago

Is there a good way to use my production slots without investing months of SP?

Is EVE proof that ancapism works?

>>171743751
if everyone is immortal and free of any longterm consequences for their actions, ancapism devolves into rigid power structures within a fortnight

>>171743861
People are free to not participate in any of it, though. You don't have to join null corps or anything.

>>171743925
all the resources that the game mechanics allow to be monopolized are monopolized

you're free to control your body IRL too, does that mean that everything is ancap IRL?

>>171744043
How are all resources monopolized?

Also, that's not even an argument and a terrible comparison.

>>171744368
>How are all resources monopolized?
go mine some moons in nullsec by yourself and you'll find out

>>171744523
>some moons
>all resources

>>171744592
>>171744043
>all the resources that the game mechanics allow to be monopolized
learn to read

>>171735263
>Does this mean they are just breaking PLEX into smaller chunks for trading purpose but to actually redeem them to game time you still have to gather a full amount for 1 PLEX?
They're getting rid of aurum because they want to get rid of the conversion shit

>>171744523
>wah I can't take, set up and defend an r64 all by my self, this is unfair ccp beef big alliances

>>171744702
>multiple people from multiple corps from different alliances can extract resources
>"monopoly"

>>171745108
IRL we have dozens of countries too
ancap achieved

>>171745260
None of them are ancap

>>171745260
>governments will jail or kill you if you leave or join depending of where you go
>"ancap"

>>171745335
the only reason that doesn't happen in eve is that it's literally impossible, as with all other "ancap" structures that are in the game

>>171745461
No, in Eve I can choose to go wherever I want, even knowing that I can get fucked in the ass for trespassing. Governments get to decide if I go or not arbitrarily, not because of trespassing, but because of control.

>>171745570
if in the real world it was impossible to imprison or kill you, and there existed blockade runners and impossible to lock tengus that you could buy for spare change, governments wouldn't get to decide where you'll go

so ancapism works if god keeps patching the world to guarantee your freedoms

>>171745673
That's just because governments are inefficient, not because they partake in initiation of force, which is the foundation of ancapism. In EVE the Empries have CONCORD which can literally turn off your ship in their territory, but once you are in lawless space, you are free.

>>171745891
not because they do not partake in initiation of force*

What's a good Corp to stick a ratting vni alt in?

>>171745673
>impossible to lock tengus
Tell me more about these because that sounds like horseshit.

>>171746442
I was referring to travel with instant align ships.

>>171746963
I thought it was still possible to instalock and point those. Also instant align on a cruiser?

>>171746963
>>171747038
Everything takes at least two seconds to align, even if the align time is zero, due to how server tick rate works.

>>171747038
I'm wrong on the tengu part then. I haven't tried it and I'm only familiar with instant align as a theoretical concept. Too much effort when null travel is pretty safe anyway

The tengu part is instacloak+nullification, which is pretty much impossible to catch unless you either have a dirty gate or a lucky fast ship that happened to be nearby

>>171745891
Too bad ancap is as much a retarded meme as communism

>people ACTUALLY believe in these ideal world bullshit political, economic and sociological ideologies that immediately fail because it's not an ideal world with ideal outcomes

Is the stratios worth it?

In ~20 days, I should have decent enough skills to actually get use out of it, but I'm wondering if it's worth the huge price tag. I could buy 3 more asteros with their fittings for one stratios.

Is there enough potential ISK to be made in using one? I know they're a huge step up from the astero for PvP.

>>171747989
>Is the stratios worth it?
Worth it for what? If you're gonna say exploration fucking stick to the asteroid and other exploration frigates

>>171748029

I know there's relic / data sites in WHs with rats that I can't run in the astero. Can the stratios manage them?

>>171747947
Ancap isn't a political, economical or sociological ideology, it's an ethical philosophy based on non-initiation of force and voluntaryism.

>>171748107
No, get a Drake for C1-C3, a Tengu for C3-C4, a Rattlesnake for C5 and a Naglfar for C6.

>>171748123
Wow good thing retards like you aren't in charge. With that kind of bullshit no wonder it doesn't work at all

>>171748228
Thanks for reminding me that /vg/ is total shit for philosophical discussions.

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>non-initiation of force and volunteerism
>I'm not forcing you but you better fucking volunteer for the existence of our society

>>171748409
>what's secession
>what's seasteading
>what's spacesteading

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Anon, no one's forcing you but since there's no societal blanket to pick up or ensure safety, you better fucking get back to work or I'm taking away your rag blanket. You're totally free to do what ever you want of course you're just volunteering at my command

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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/60976691/

Jesus this guy is the absolute best pilot I have ever seen, just have a look at this killboard.

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>>171748657
>volunteering at my command

>>171748752
nullsec is a VERY dangerous place

>>171748948
Please, examine the Nyx loss if you feel you understand him as a pilot.
I just can't fathom how people are this bad, it scares me.

This guy could be driving on the same roads as me, backwards, with no tyres on.

>ancap
>you better fucking volunteer or you'll die

my favorite thing to do is argue with literal fucking retards who have never taken a civics or political theory course (let alone talked with someone who has spent decades working in it), and hearing them talk with so much authority you'd think they have PhDs in it.

go back to watching Sargon or Molyneux you stupid ignorant motherfuckers and leave my r/eog alone.

>>171749054
>Do you want to buy my apples?
>No.
>the end

>Do you want to buy my apples?
>Sure.
>the end
Where does the die part come in?

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>you're a retard for not buying into my meme ideology that won't fucking work because the world is not ideal enough to fit these retarded mental gymnastics I need to make said meme ideology work

>confusing volunteering with voluntaryism
Fucking dindu retard, go back to your shack.

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mandatory.

>>171749161
>if I keep repeating it's an utopian ideology, maybe it'll become true
It's a philosophy, not an ideology. You don't implement it or force it onto others, you use it for yourself.

>I invented new words and changed definitions to suit my needs when I want them

>you're not forced to do any hang but if youll die if you do anything I don't want you to do

>there are no laws but there's a NAP but that's not a law just don't tell me what to do

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>>171749209
>Pay your fair share or else

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<<< WANTED >>> 3,000,000YEN
JAP'S PIG FACE,
Ingress's account name is SkipAway.
This man was to watch out in injury and burglarizing in Tokyo and around Yatsuka Station,Soka, Saitama
SkipAway raped many people and hurt many people with violence.

指名手配犯 犯罪者 賞金300万円
ジャップの豚顔、イングレスのアカウント名はSkipAwayです。
この男は、傷害事件と強盗を東京都と埼玉県草加市谷塚駅周辺で起こしました。
SkipAway はたくさんの人々をストーキングや脅迫、性暴力を起こしました。
太いフレームのメガネの小太り、マッシュルームカットの豚が手配中。見つけたら警察に連絡しよう。

>>171749259
>I can't make logical conclusions so you must be wrong

>>171749272
Everyone else pays in to make sure everyone pays.
It's a system that is better for everyone on average, you are the guy shrieking on the fringes because it doesn't quite suit him.
Better luck accepting society next life I guess.

>>171749217
>it's a philosophy
Oh I see so it contributes nothing to no one

Why didn't you just say you had a degree in thinking because that's all it's good for is thinking thoughts

>>171749324
>I believe in meme ideologies that I'm going to paint as something virtuous when really I'm just sniffing my own farts

>>171748752
https://zkillboard.com/kill/53883843/

w e w
e
w

>>171749383
No, it's on principle and ethics, but that seems to go completely over your head.

>>171749412
I'm truly sorry you can't find anything useful in philosophy and you believe it's just thinking for nothing. But you can look up Agorism and see practical uses of ancapism, like evading taxes and being self-sufficient while living in a statist society.

>>171749059
>political theory
PhDs in STEM are valuable because those fields gave us the amenities of modern life. What have the political theory eggheads contributed to society? Marxism, communism and other miracles? Why is having "authority" in this "field" worthy of respect?

>>171749519
>practical uses of ancap ism

Said no one but thought thinkers

>look at these practical applications
>these don't work in real life
>reeeee it's not a real life thing it's a filosofy I'm smarter because I think thoughts better

>>171749505
He doesn't seem to have learned a thing either, still making mistakes with mommies credit card.

>>171749519
>The human race is capable of maintaining standards of principals and ethics
Just give up senpai, the world is not morally just and it doesn't have to be, it works the way it works because that is the most efficient path.
If nature and evolution was moral, nothing would exist, because all success if built on suffering.

All that imaginging utopia does is make you depressed, and ultimately less productive in fulfilling your biological goals.

>>171749717
They do work, that's why I'm telling you to look up Agorism. Every aspect of society controlled by the state can be circumvented with Agorism, it's amazing. Blockchain, solar panels, seasteading, etc.

>>171749738
It's simple, you don't violate someone's property and nothing bad happens.

>>171749560
>implying Marxism, Communism, Anarchism, etc, etc isn't useful

How would we tell who the retard or outcast in a given room is otherwise?

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>>171749813

>>171749807
>They do work,
Which society let alone country is anarchy-capitalism?

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>>171749807

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>>171749901
People who use agorism solutions is an example. It's pretty big, too bad you're not interested.

>>171749920

>>171749983
>people who use agorism are examples
And people who cough have lung cancer right?

This is a false equivalence of the highest order

>my fast sniffing is too sophisticated for you

>>171750074
You asking stupid fucking questions like "which country is ancap?" when you won't ever see a country become ancap because a government will never dissolve itself, you stupid nigger.

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>>171749983
You're right, it's totally not a meme ideology kept (barely) alive on dying internet forums by edgelords and teenagers.

>>171750127
Oh so the applications of your philosophical feet sniffing only apply where you say they do and any denomination elsewhere is purely and only out of the scope of your shit to the point you default to "you just don't understand, much farther sniffing"

Best combat ceptor?

>>171750127
governments get dissolved somewhere in the world every year, it's just that (surprise!) the power vacuum always gets filled immediately

>>171750213
Crusader
Taranis

ITT: early 20s faggots thinking they are worth having a conversation on political theory. in a few years you're gonna look back and cringe and your own fucking stupidity.

Both the pro-ancap faggot in here and the ones on the other side.

you stupid motherfuckers really can't see how ignorant you all are?

>>171750229
Exactly

After the Spanish Civil War there was anarchy in the country for about 10 solid years before the society collapsed

Retards think that society will just magically work when there's no structure to their society so like a bridge with no pylons it breaks

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>>171750136
>implying

>>171750212
The applications of the ancap philosophy is to take the logical conclusion of liberty to its fullest. You don't fuck with mine, and I won't fuck with yours. You are free to decide whether you want to cooperate with me or not. If I force something onto you, you can respond accordingly, and vice-versa. That's the practical side of it.

>>171750229
Ancapism dissolves the government by not financing it, which is why the invention of blockchain and bitcoin is so important. It's impossible to track, impossible to steal and isn't affected by inflation, plus a bunch of other things that makes it really secure.

>>171750385
Market and free exchange of goods is a pretty solid structure.

>>171750385
The civil war of 1936-1939 or are you talking about the different Carlists wars?

Another quality discussion about the massively multiplayer online video game Eve Online.

>>171750524
Should we go back to posting canines while quoting previous posts?

Abolishing Feudalism was a fucking mistake. It allowed uneducated peasants to think their ideas are worth considering let alone implementing.

>>171750347
T. Thought thinker elitist

>>171750431
>bitcoin was invented to bypass the government taxes
LOL no it was a simple algorithm to use as a universal Internet currency

Jesus christ this level of delusion
>look at all my special cherry picked examples of things that support my - ism ideology because I'm so smart thinking these fancy thoughts
>no you can't do that no country is because it's not a political ideology it's a political theory it's a big difference I swear

>>171750431
>impossible to steal
lmao fiat currency is only valuable because it's guaranteed

have all the pieces of paper you want, we'll just tax (and/or steal) the factories and things of actual value

>>171750524
tell me how to use my production slots productively without SP then

What's the best looking Minmatar ship?

>>171750502
>Society collapsed after anarchy
>yo that was totally structured tho

>>171750738
Typhoon

>>171750738
Nidhoggur

>>171750347
you didn't answer to me on why your political theory degree is worth the paper it's printed on

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>>171750431
>politely ask them to leave when there is no inherent reason for them to because it is not "your" property as they can choose to ignore/contest your claim to said property
>Them killing you is a valid contestion to your property rights
>This is morally superior

>>171750839
are you really this stupid or are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>171750614
The author of the blockchain technology himself said so.

Either way, it's being used as such. You can bypass taxes and exercise your liberty from the coercion of the state, which means you are living an anarchist life. That's one way to do it, which is what I meant about ancapism. Solar panels enables you to bypass being on the government's energy grid, homeschooling bypasses the centralized education, and so on and on.

>>171750732
Private companies use bitcoin, too.

>>171750775
Are you one of those imbeciles that confuse government with society, as if society depends on the government to exist?

>>171750854
Then stop them from taking your property, dumbass.

Are the Arazu/Lachesis worth training for solo WH play? I'm 12 days away from being able to use them, but can't see the use of a 300M gank ship when I have T3D, T3C, etc. as options.

>>171750738
Wolf

>>171750912
>not paying taxes on cash exchanges means you're living an anarchist life
You. Are. Fucking. Retarded

>>171750987
Agorism is all about minimizing the effects of government has on you, and the monopoly on currency is one if not the strongest one. If you are free from that, it becomes easier to deal with the others.

Nigger.

>>171750912
>Are you one of those imbeciles that confuse government with society, as if society depends on the government to exist?
Are you one of those retards who thinks that society proving up s government structure is totally false because somehow they're mutually exclusive?

>>171751062
>proving up s
?

>>171751040
>coughing is a sure sign you have lung cancer
The audacity to spew this nonsense with cherry picked shit and the most absolutely made up presumption that finding a penny on the ground and not paying tax on that means you're an anarchist

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>>171750912
>stop them taking your property
>kill trespassers
>memes related

Heh, back to step 1 in validating this retardation.

>>171751130
How is it not, besides you repeating it isn't?

>>171751149
>someone wants to take my shit
>oh better just let them
Cuckold.

>>171751078
Propping up

Fucking auto correct
>>171751173
>why am I not allowed to cherry pick specific things that I want to support my political - ism?
Because you can't just pick the things you want to represent and ignore other things that contradict you

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>>171751173
>someone wants to take my shit
>better call the police who I pay to respond and handle situation like this in a societally approved manner
>this removes me of any moral, physical, or emotional obligation in stopping a crime being commited
>this peace of mind (among many other services) costs .40c on the dollar (in upsidedownland)

Wew senpai, one minute you are spouting the whole "ideology of peace" rhetoric, then claiming I am a cuck for pointing out that you would be FORCED to shoot people who trespass in utopia.

>>171750908
>guys, take my thoughts on the heavy authority of my amazing credentials
>why are your credentials worth anything when your field has produced only death and failed systems?
>you're dumb
an Einstein of our time
I thought the only virtue of political theory is that it makes people good at constructing wrong but very appealing arguments, but I may have been incorrect

>>171751696
>huurrrrr i go to the political subreddit that most alignes with mine so I know more than u univeristy-educated normie

>>171750738
Hel

>>171751807
Don't let the fact that you have studied in the same building as actual scientists mislead you. Your field has none of their prestige or worth. University degrees aren't good because they come from universities, they're good because they produce useful things.

>>171752527
how can people like you talk so much shit about a subject you know nothing about? Do you feel no shame?

>>171752703
I know little about it, but I don't pretend to know lots. I'm putting my arguments forth and letting them be judged on their own merits. You, on the other hand, came here and announced your authority on the subject.

Do YOU feel no shame claiming to know so much, when your field has such a poor track record?

Could someone recommend me an exploring Astero fit? I am new and I don't have trouble flying I just don't understand what makes a really good fit.

>>171753051
Where will you be exploring? For null you just want to optimize agility and speed with stuff like nanos.

>>171752910
Because there is nothing productive about arguing in the fucking internet especially in this board chock-full of retards and autistics. It's just a waste of time and absolutely nothing productive will come out of it when both parties come in dead-set on changing the other person's mind but not theirs.

at the very least I got you to see how what you say isn't worth considering because you are pulling arguments out of your ass with no solid foundation and "letting them be judged on their own [lack of] merits".

Have a good day.

>>171753142
I live in low sec but I mean what explorer doesn't jump into WH systems?

Will code suicide gank at a loss or do they just bump people?

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-upwell-refineries/

Quick you've been target painted, what quick course of action you take?

>>171756041
Turn on my MWD and stop moving.

>>171756041
Use a mirror to deflect the beam.

>>171755147
>The moon drilling module begins blasting a chunk of the moon away from its surface and dragging it towards the structure. This process takes between one and several weeks depending on the choices made by the structure owner. Observers can watch the chunk move through space as a way of estimating when it will reach the Refinery.
Once the chunk of moon rock has completed its journey into space, the Refinery can use its drill module to detonate the chunk into a minable asteroid field. The exact time of the detonation is controlled by the owners of the Refinery within limits. If the chunk is left unattended long enough it will disintegrate into the asteroid field on its own.
The new asteroid field that appears with the explosion of the chunk will contain new types of valuable ores that will yield moon minerals when reprocessed. The composition of the field will depend on the composition of moon materials available in the moon. The field will generally remain far enough away from the Refinery structure that you won’t be able to effectively mine it from docking range but close enough for a pilot controlling the Refinery to be able to cover the friendly miners and/or attack uninvited guests.

Rip T2 industry. Get ready for 150M ceptors

>>171755147
>The field will generally remain far enough away from the Refinery structure that you wont be able to effectively mine it from docking range but close enough for a pilot controlling the Refinery to be able to cover the friendly miners and/or attack uninvited guests.

Can anyone explain how this is a good idea?

>>171755147
Truly the death of lowsec

No one mines in lowsec these new refinery things are going to kill the only way to make money in low

>>171755147
Let the technetium and dysprosium wars begin.

>>171756041
engage my target painter canceller

>>171757017
I can see it bow

You're gonna be able to do bombing runs on these asteroid fields and there's no a thing you can do about it

>>171757017
>wars
You mean bunch of le epic trolle just camping the belts

>>171756579
>Get ready for 150M ceptors
Nice. Imagine how much isk I'll make by stockpiling them now.

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https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/3409354/Upwell-Structure-Survey?sguid=e2b3b90825bd8e879aaee8cfecf9c5c182afc493

>>171757109
They will be guarded this time, they must, by stabbers at least.

>>171757583
Good luck trying to catch bombers

>https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-chief-executive-panel-orders-partial-closure-of-caldari-gallente-border-decommissions-embassies/
>how about we stop the disease
>nah m8, war

So lowsec is fucked. Thanks ccp anything you can do in lowsec can be done better in null (and safer too)

>>171758752
It's not like in null it's gonna be any better

>>171758850
Better moons, more safety basically nullsec delight

>>171758981
>hey corp mining day, come mine my technetium everyone haha :)
Nah, fuck that

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I remember seeing an old "how to interdictors" flowchart, but can't google it. Anyone has it?

Because mining in null sec is totally unprecedented, right?

>xhe thinks ore and moonshit are the same thing

After drilling platforms get released they might as well be.

So what ships and modules are going to be affected by this change?

>>171759873
Literally all of T2

How safe is rmt through jetcan?

>>171760198
So all T2 stuff is going to go up in price?

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How the fuck is 300m a heist?

Even all-out niggers had tengus to steal

>>171760327
We are going back to t2 lottery times

>>171760460
noice. so how do i turn my 16b into 100 from this?

>tfw stocking up on Sabres

Can I still deploy old POS in W-Space? Citadels are quite expensive.

>>171761670
Yes

>>171761794
Thanks.

Shoud I stock on finished products or raw materials?

Looks like it's time to shoot the momument again

>>171758164
I haven't really been following the past few lore snippets.

Is it supposed to foreshadow a gameplay change?

>>171761670
How long are you going to be staying?

Citadels don't require fuel for basic operation.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/60980432/

>>171764490
I don't know, I just resubbed. Medium citadel is 1b, do I need to buy weapons and extras too like with POS?

You do if you want it to be able to shoot things, you can keep it unfit if you just want a place to keep stuff.

>>171765473
You're not going to be able to defend it anyways if someone really feels like dedicating 3 days to a random citadel so I wouldn't bother.

>>171766352
Yeah, my main defense is being a quite useless target and hoping no one really notices.

>>171767772
No one will bother you unless the wormhole you're in has really good PI planets or something.

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Hey guys, kind of new to the game and I was wondering if you'd give me some advice. I'm trying to run level 4 missions but the rats keep scramming my 700m/s battleship so I can't kite them :( I don't think the Rattlesnake is a very good PvE ship, anyone got a good Paladin fit? going to try that instead

>>171768906
Stale meme

>>171768906
here
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60965118/

>>171768906
>anyone got a good Paladin fit?

fit some clorox down your throat

>>171768906
not sure if ironic

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>>171769209
epic kys meme bro

>>>/reddit/

>>171769737
>>>>/reddit/

>tfw you've never browsed reddit tho

how badly will the moon mining changes fuck up t2 items and ships?

>>171770416
>>171760460

>>171760460
Mining platforms don't mean less output. They might even crash T2 prices.

>>171770878
They also don't mean more output.

>>171770878
This. I don't get why nobody's seeing the possibility of moon mining giving you more goo/day at the cost of having to be actively involved. Tweak the numbers around a little and we shouldn't see huge changes in T2 production.

>>171770878
>>171771079
Remove automation from any modern industry and see what happens

>>171771058
Do we know that for sure?

>>171771218
Real life industry would never see a huge spike in output at the same time as automation. Imagine if somebody invented tech that let you produce 6 cars in the time it takes to produce 1, but it had to be human-operated for whatever reason.

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evernus is telling me that Void S is selling at a 36.77% margin

but am i reading this right?

if i sell 1,000,000 units of Void S at the current price, my profit will by about 16m isk?

why the fuck would anyone do this? i can afk in a VNI for 20 minutes and get 16m without any effort. not to mention, i don't have to constantly 0.01 isk people on the market or fight against bots and shit that auto update orders

there's got to be something i'm missing, how are people making so much money with markets when it seems like you're doing so much boring shit for tiny amounts of profit

37% margin sounds awesome until you realize it's only 16 isk per unit

>>171771510
>i can afk in a VNI for 20 minutes and get 16m without any effort
Are you saying that throwing some minerals into the oven and waiting a day requires any effort?

>>171771510
You answered your own question.
>1,000,000
That's small-time mate.

>>171771510
Because selling void isn't the only thing people sell

>>171771235
No because ccp haven't released numbers yet, but not everything is going to be mined all the time so supply is going down unless drilling platforms have more yield than towers.

>>171771675

The demand is really not that high though. Faction ammo yeah but T2 small is not gonna shift quickly

>>171771458
People in modern industry are basically faggots playing with lego and pressing buttons. (players clicking on reaction and). Everything else is made by machines.

Imagine if you would have to trash your machine shaping a metal sheet and instead you'd have to emply a squad of stupid faggots with hammers. You'd also have your factory randomly raided by groups of thugs stealing and thrashing your equipment.

>>171771675
1m is small time, but evernus is telling me movement is just under 10m

so if i manage to catch every single purchase of Void S, that'll net me like 160m in profits. every single fucking purchase. doesn't this seem crazy?

sure, i can build these myself, like >>171771653 mentioned, but i haven't done the math, or have skills for that just yet, but at the same time, that's a lot of shit being sold for very little profit

>>171771681
yeah, i'm looking at other shit too, modules, ships, rigs, subsystems. i only have like 500m to spare at the moment, so i'm looking at things that won't outright bankrupt me with the first couple of buy orders

>>171771760
You're limiting yourself to ammo. Try buying 6 types of ammo, several modules, and a laundry list of PI goods and reaction materials.

>>171771510
You're supposed to be buying faction BS BPCs from contracts that have 20-40m profit and making those

>>171771760
if he's picking an item with a small market cap that's his problem

>>171771767
you're missing his point that IRL trading your machine for stupid faggots doesn't end in the faggots making sheets ten times faster than the machine for some reason, whereas this is possible in eve

>>171771865
If one of those items nets you 20m profit per day, that one single production lines generates 600m/month. All of this for just a couple of clicks a day.

>>171771870

Yeah but you have to .1 isk every one of those orders constantly if you want anything to sell. Its the most fucking tedious thing I've ever tried in eve

>>171772009
It won't fucking be ten times faster. It will have massive losses and it will be confusing as fuck. T2 NEEDS as much automation as possible becasue even with all that the route from raw material to finished product is absolutely autistic.

More gameplay doesn't always mean good.

>>171772186
>Yeah but you have to .1 isk every one of those orders constantly
Maybe once a day if you're not in Jita. Doing it more often will make you more money faster, sure, but the effort to isk ratio is pretty good if you know what you're doing.

Very possible station trading just isn't for you m8. I find it relaxing.

>>171772207
>It won't fucking be ten times faster. It will have massive losses
I'm not saying that this isn't the most likely scenario, but you're still making huge assumptions about numbers here.

>>171772340
>easily controllable scheme with least possible people involved
VS
>massive shitfest with le corp mining days xD and a fuckload of idiots in ventures

Yeah, nah. Ur full of shit

>>171771978
is this actually worth doing?

>>171772664
If you are able to sell them anywhere outside Jita, then yes.

>>171772664
only if you like playing the 0.1 isk game

>>171772747
so like, buy cheap bpcs, build that shit, ship it out with freight like pushx and sell it?

>>171772823
No, build it where you want to sell them. Hauling hulls is retarded and Jita is literally the worst possible place to build anything because of system cost index.

>>171772917
totally forgot about that system cost index shit, thanks anon

>>171772823
If you use a courrier service there will be no profits left m8.

Ship those copies and dont get caught and build them on site.

>>171772502
Okay, let me spell this out as clearly as I can. Assuming the moon goo extraction rate stays exactly the same and the only thing that changes is the extra step how much less moon goo do you expect to see in the market? 1/100? Let's pretend it's 1/100. Now imagine if one drilling platform extracts 100 times as much as a POS does right now.
>1 EC + a mining op every two weeks
>100 POS
These produce the same amount of moon goo. All CCP had to do was tweak some numbers. If you can't acknowledge that it's *possible* for T2 manufacturing to remain stable with this change I'm sorry about your autism.

>>171772664
Yes but they're a pain to ship.

>>171772917
Depending it might actually be cheaper to pay pushx to ship and build somewhere with a low cost index and a material efficiency BS rig. Check.

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>the internet is down and I can't play EVE

>>171773498
just pull out a notebook and write some spreadsheets

>>171773498
Well you're shitposting on 4chan so that's a good substitute already.

Now just put a figurine in front of you and spin it around and you should feel right at home.

>never used teamspeak before
>comms are cancer
How do I mute everybody but the FC?

>>171773640
>>171773912

Here is my maller (Tash-Murkon) webbing and killing a foolish Taranis

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>maller
>web

>Goons want an API for every character on every account I've ever played.
>Can't remember my account names from 3 years ago let alone charactes.

>Reddit is le Reddit
>4chan doesn't have a corp

Looking for a corp with good comms, good social presence, and good nullsec. Any ideas?

>>171775127

As you can see, I am only firing 1 pulse laser in order to maintain cap stability

>>171775175
>
>>171737489

>>171775175
Only your active accounts.

>>171775402

Nope. Not him but I was in goons a couple months ago and they wanted everything I've ever had

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>>171775312
>Xdeath
>Still around

>>171775516
Nobody gonna find out, unless you actually plan to get into some shady stuff.

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>>171775259
>mfw autists are only concerned about being cap stable

You only have to be stable until the fight is over. Finish your opponent quicker.

>>171775714
Not everything is 10s frig 1v1

>>171775671
If you ever had a transaction to a single one of those old accounts from your current account(s) they absolutely will find it. These people have weapons grade autism

>>171775714
Its a meme

>>171775175
just because they want doesn't mean you have to provide
they're not gods so if there wasn't lots of regular contact between your accounts, they won't know

should i buy a ton of cheap random shit in the hopes that CCP will buff them and someone will try to market manipulate them like Elite Drone AI?

>>171776518
Stabbers

>>171776469
Isn't a single contract enough?

>>171776774
it all depends on the human element,why not try if you have nothing to lose?

>>171776636
i just bought 12060 meta rails
gonna be fucking rich

>>171775834
get better at eve, tankfag

>>171777440
>>171776518
I've gathered hundreds of thousands of meta mods back from when the alphas were introduced.

They didn't change much in price, I doubt these drilling platforms will impact them either.

phobos

>Invest in item
>Selling a few every day
>Making steady income
>No one undercutting me for 2 and a half days
>Log it after class
>6 orders ahead of me
I don't know how it happened, but it was nice while it lasted.

>>171777067
There's no human element, they run a script

>>171779216
EVErnus score got to high

>>171779920
EVEnus score?

more like eve anus

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>>171780190

>>171780310
what the fuck

>>171780310
>>171780589
>Trading without a third-party tool

Just go to Wall Street and start buying stock, you'll be fine.

>>171779920
>>171780310
Well that's pretty fucking lame but I guess it explains why so many people are trying to sell now. I think I'll just undercut them hard and hope to get the rest of my stuff sold without having to do much more.

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>CCP publishes a survey asking players if they should remove tethering after jumping to a cyno
>lowsec kickout station camping scum bots the shit out of it
>EVE dies because some fags want easier super and JF kills

>EVE dies because fags think they should be able to solo move the largest ships in the game in total safety

>EVE dies because fags

>eve dies because you cant have a structure provide a 50 kilometer invincibility radius without drawbacks

Remove asset safety and tethering.

>>171781825
What'd be the point of citadels then?

>>171781825
t. HKPL

>>171781443
>He needs a tool to trade efficiently, rather than using his own knowledge of the market and research

>>171782130
>Being able to remember the prices of a hundred different items you're trading over a dozen systems

>>171782303
>Me? No, I'm stupid, I couldn't do anything like that, trust me. :)

>>171781969
They're still safer jump targets than stations because fucking up a cyno is impossible and you don't need to be at 0 to dock, you can still change clones in them with no cooldown, you can still keep ships in them, they're still a staging point that you need to retain grid control across multiple timers to remove, and they're still a pain to attack in the first place because of time zone tanking the vulnerability.

>>171782034
I wish.

>>171782303
>Hahahaha market manipulation, how does that work? lol
>Sure I'm given confidential information about which items will suddenly spike in value, but how would I know how to profit off of that? LOL
>And it's not like I have tons of capital and industry friends that would help with that. I mean COME ON LOL!

>>171782303
>le sweaty man face.jpg

Btw it was suppossedly hypersynaptic fibers.

>https://zkillboard.com/kill/60986555/
Really makes you think (seriously, I don't understand it)

>>171783563
He got keylogged

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>>171783563
>mfw jeronica is a smug faggot

>>171783823
How do you know? And then why are there a bunch of rookie ships and other PL guys on the KM?

>>171783965
he was moving some stuff to do a real quitting party but he stole my gears in rust so i ganked him.

the fuck u doin jeronica?

>>171783009
so do i buy tor sell?

or is it too late and insider trading has already taken most of the profitable margins?

>>171784374
Yeah it's probably too late. This stuff is only really good when you have the info that no one else does. At this point everyone who cares to know, does.

>>171784606
isn't this kind of shit against EULA or TOS though?

is this also why plex jumped up to like 1.2b last week a couple of days before CCP announced their weird mini plex bullshit?

>>171784708
Half of CCP is ex PL and many trillionaires and big name alliance leadership guys are under ''''''''''''NDA'''''''''''' and regularly talk to devs on social media even when they're not on the CSM

>>171784708
Well a lot of times people are able to guess this kind of stuff and make good investments. But a lot of times it is CSM and CCP guys leaking info, which they aren't supposed to do, but it's hard to track and CCP doesn't care to do much about it.

>>171784917
>>171785056
well that's all kinds of fucked up
but there's nothing i can think of to do about it, so better just get on my knees and suck some dick

>>171785635
Well, you can bitch about it to other players so they know what's up. You can also vote for good CSM members who you don't think will leak and exploit info. And if you can't do that, might as well vote for the ones who will leak and exploit for your alliance/ allies/ interests.

>>171785950
>tfw not a nullsec blob faggot
>tfw not a wormhole blob faggot
>tfw don't have popular meme friend
>tfw don't have literal decades of history

it's not like if i were part of goons or test or co2 or whatever the fuck that they'd tell me anything

>>171786262
Ask anyone who has been playing for a long time and they'll tell you that the most valuable asset in this game is trust. And trust isn't something that just comes to you, it has to be earned. Talk to people, make connections, be friendly. There are people who have only been playing for a year or two who are already in positions of power.

Of course, you don't have to be a mover and shaker to have fun in the game. Just do what you enjoy.

>>171787290
>Caldari

>The people in power have all the inside info
>They use it for their own gain, but don't admit to it
>The big corporations and alliances get that info, to profit from it
>The little guys get the info after it's already useless
>No way in unless you're already there

CCP wanted to make an economy that models the real world, they fucking nailed it.

>>171787385
what makes you think basic human psychology doesnt apply to eves market

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>>171787385
>Listening to CSM debates
>KIllah Bee more or less admits that he's planning on leaking info to his alliance
>He'll probably still get elected

>>171786815
yeah, i get that
just still not really sure what i want to do

trying my hand at station trading , but that's about it so far

>>171787819
Are you really new? In that case I'd recommend joining up with with some sort of group (not highsec) so that you can get a feel for things.

>>171788000
not really new, been and on and off player for a couple of months, never really dove into eve though, just kinda lurked

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>>171787818
>mfw I voted for him

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>fallinf for the station trading meme
>not realising that like everything else in Eve, it is skewed hevaily to reward experience
>not realising that unlike other activities, it is not just a lower reward for new players, it is impossible to make any isk

Why no start carrier ratting in lowsec solo? May as well be the same thing, you are competing with huge support networks, and leaving yourself as the only target who no one will save.

>>171788000
>not highsec
I'm a new player, on my fourth corp in 3 months, the first one to operate out of highsec, and it's the only one I like so far.

>>171788121
Honestly, there isn't much you can do in this game without other people.And there are a lot of groups that will be fine with you coming and going every now and then. What kind of stuff interests you? Where would you want to live?

>>171788173
>station trading meme
Its quite profitable though.

>>171788173
i mean, sure
as a less experienced player without billions saved from years of gameplay, i might as well just lie face down, ass up and just take it

or i can at least try something and see if i enjoy it

>>171788417
gonna be lame, but i like just getting a fat wallet
not really about that pvp stuff, maybe now and then, but i just enjoy seeing numbers go up

>>171788214
Hey don't let me tell you how to play the game, but to me highsec is a snoozefest filled with broken mechanics and autists.

>>171788510
If that's what you want to do, go for it. But station trading is only an efficient way to make money if you have good skills, game knowledge, and good starting capital. Until you get there, simple forms of earning money, like ratting and mining, will be way more profitable.

>>171788510
Station trading is the purest form of PVP. You can bully all of EVE while being docked in Jita.

>>171788841
i'll see about putting some skill points into some cruiser and go kill a couple of rats

might as well get something done while waiting for buy and sell orders to fill i suppose

Speaking of station trading, why is amarr fucking dead now?

>>171789129
Honestly, killing rats around Jita is super low income. I'd recommend creating a second character and putting him into a nullsec blob. Train into a VNI and collect salvage while you're still training. That will actually give you some usable income for trading with.

>>171789464
sounds like several months of just training skills again, but it's not like i'm doing anything else. any idea on which one i should join?

and would they care that i've got a jita character that's been in an npc corp for several years? i've only actually played for a couple of months in that whole time though

>>171789804
Pandemic Horde

>>171789804
I can tell you that no corp is going to care that you have a character like that, just tell them that you've been playing on and off for a while. I'm in a TEST corp but I'd actually recommend joining Karmafleet. They have access to a ton of well protected space and information on making money in nullsec. But honestly, other new player friendly corps like Horde and Dreddit would also work out pretty well. Keep in mind that in nullsec there will also be opportunities for making isk in trading and industry.

>>171790267
k, i'll look into that, thanks anon

>>171788423
If you are putting in more effort than PI in a null pocket with buyback and protection, and earning less than 4 bil a month passive with 2 accounts, you are wasting your time.

>>171788510
You need to choose activities where you can still have fun and make money without being roflstomped by better players at every turn.

Any way to change/disable Aura's new voice? I really hate it

>>171790843
In sound settings

Minmatar seem fun
I see a lot of stuff about the Hurricane, is it a good choice to try and get ballistic skills so I can help out in a corporation?

Can you still redeem/use mini skill injectors? I know they reduced the SP but is there a cap on it or anything?

>>171791939
hurricane is ok

training combat skills so you can shoot things is a good idea, eve is mostly about shooting things