/twg/ - Total War General

Feet Enchantress or Tay Enchantress.
Who wins?

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First for Liberty

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Third for close victories.

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Beastmen giant is best giant.

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Think I'll give the faction unlocker a miss...

Sixth for holy shit greenskin early game sucks.

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End result of the river battle outside augsburg

all cav kills are from chasing down routers

I AM FRANZ

They will obey

>>171694210
It's why Skarsnik is better. His early game can be FUN. You know, after you conquer Karak Norn.

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Foespike lands in a bloodbath

>>171694173
should have been a ghorgon t b h

Does Fall of the Eagles change anything in Age of Charlemagne?

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>ca in charge of rivers

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>>171694039
its unchivalrous to force them to compete with one another

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FUCKING STEALING MY SHITPOSTS TO REPOST THEM ON REDDIT

IF YOU GET A REPLY FROM GRACE I WILL UTTERLY LOSE MY SHIT

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HE SHEDS BUT HE SAVES

AND HE SAVES MORE THAN HE SHEDS

BUT HE SHEDS

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>>171694989

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>>171694989

>>171694989
There's some fucker in this thread that does this all the time
Same thing happened with the fake trailer shitpost

>>171694989
who?

when did you post this?

I'm convinced every general on /vg/ is plagued by lurking redditors

>>171694184

Speaking of the provinces, are the comparisons /tg/ gives them to the >H>R>E accurate?

Middenland: Prussia
Reikland: Austria
Averland: Bavaria
Hochland: Baden/Wurtemmburg
Nordland: Mecklenburg
Ostermark: Poland
Ostland: Saxony
Stirland: Bohemia/Hungary
Talabecland: Franconia/Hesse/Hanover
Wissenland: Switzerland
Nuln: Nuremburg

>>171694039
>>171694951
did I miss sthg? where the fuck are these swiftposters coming from?

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all around me are familiar faces...

>>171694989
It happens to every general. A few pictures that /mbg/ made were posted almost immediately to Reddit, and TW talked about the "funny pictures" they found on Reddit a few days later.

The new engine they brought in with Empire: Total War (Warscape, as it is called) is incredibly flawed. It was designed for musket battles and artillery, hence why the projectiles and missiles work very well. However the Warscape engine was not designed for melee combat, and 'kill moves' (set piece animations done by stuntmen) were introduced as the SOLE way of soldiers attacking, meaning that once a 'kill move' starts it cannot be interrupted, vastly limiting the amount of scenarios that are possible; in earlier total wars 'Rome I' and 'Medieval II'' the engine they used (I don't think it really has a name) allowed for lots more variables. For instance, soldiers could be knocked down and then get up and soldiers could also interrupt attacks. On top of this, units could both attack another (1 unit) at the same time. This is a major issue, in later Total War games it is theoretically possible for a single peasant to be surrounded by hundreds of enemies and yet (if he keeps getting lucky and kills them) tie them up (occupy their 'attention') for a battle deciding length of time, due to the fact that only one soldier can attack him at once meaning that all the soldiers stand there and do nothing whilst one soldier engages. In Rome I, if a unit was surrounded it would die much quicker as all units within striking distance could all attack at once. This may not sound like that big of a deal but in practice, it looks stupid and totally kills emersion. Also, kill moves (from a spectacle point of view) dramatically worsens the melee combat; There is a fixed number of 'kill moves' to view, after a few battles you'll have seen all of them and they become boring. Because of the kill moves soldiers also slide around (without the 'walk' animation) trying to get into position to start the kill moves, making it look like the floors are too slippery or something.

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>>171695415
"Alright everyone, single-file just like we practiced!"

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>>171694857
>riverbanks.mesh is still bugged and can't use it to create neato river , because it causes map corruption upon exporting

I really like TWW Terry tool but come on, having to reload mapy everytime I alter the height because pre-rendered grass still appears where it used to be is annoying enough.

Trully suffering.

Would the world have been better if Charlemagne was a pagan?

In Warscape games there is no unit collision, only an illusion. In Rome II the units do not push and shove at each other like they did in the original, only statically poke each other with their swords in animations that lack any vigour. In Rome I when units charged they would all surge into the enemy unit visibly pushing into it, forcing it back, bending the main battle line. In Warscape games all they do is stop the units from colliding artificially: when a unit charges another the first rank starts fighting but the rest just all stop dead in perfect synchronisation, giving the impression you're commanding robots rather than actual people. In Rome I, each individual soldier reacted at a different speed to an order giving the battlefield a much more lifelike feel.

A lot of the deep flaws come from the engine and bad design decisions like removing guard mode and streamlining the campaign. In Rome I you had this almost RPG-like way of building up cities from tiny villages into massive metropolises (in my opinion) this was a better system, why can't a small town become large if you wish to invest time and effort into it, and different provinces (cities) still had value due to base farming and trade resources (that weren't as valued as they are in the recent TW's but still were useful). They also removed 'loose formation' from Rome II (as far as I know) from a lot of the units which is absurd if you ask me.

In Rome, marching is realistic.
In Rome 2, it looks like soldiers are on roller blades.

And don't get me started on the foggy, brownbloom, post-processing, filters out of the ass puke graphics.

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do any of you lads run attila comfortably on not Xtreme expensive PCs?
currently running a toaster I bought a few years ago and building a new one now, pretty much solely play TW so I'm using Attila as a sort of litmus test
I know it's poorly optimized and runs like shit on good rigs anyway though

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>>171695279
I made a shitty image back at >>171593362 because I found that little blurb in the WHFRP Bretonnia source book. Encapsulated with a slight bit of screeching, thought it was funny, and moved on.

I wouldn't care, but if Grace comments on that thread, I'll be heartbroken at missing my chance.

>>171694989
>some fag used anon's image to get Grace's attention
Oh, the horror.

>>171694989
maybe you posted it yourself for attention hmm

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Hmm

I've been trying to avoid using elves at all as Durthu but maybe I have to make a change here? My guys are not doing very well against chaos.

Yes.

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Hopefully someone gets the reference. I laughed my tits off.

>>171695028
4000
THAT'S AS MANY AS 40 HUNDREDS.
AND THAT'S HEATHEN.

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>>171695721
what a queer, I hope he reads this and knows I've called him a queer

on a side note Grace is anything but graceful and is in fact an ugly hoor

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Stop playing fantasy

>>171694989
Ha ha, what a funny Reddit image! I love Reddit's creativity!

>>171694210
>>171694343

>greenskinz
>skarsnik

Get a load o dez gits not playin DA GREAR GREEN PROHPET an spreadin da SAVAGE WAAAAAGHHHH!

>>171695508
>>171695713
Gonna complain about mass next?

>>171694989
Actually playin bret right now even on ultra a card is only 8. Seems like a reasonable number.

>>171696341
Yeah the point of my first post was that it was a whiny over the top thing to bitch about.

>>171694989

Wait Grace responded to my thread?

>>171696541
Meant to reply to the guy you were replying to opps oh well.

>>171695721
Post the shogun 2 rollchart

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>>171696545

Do spell kills not get tallied properly on the post battle screen? Gelt is consistently showing 0 but I know that's not right.

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>>171696846
There's two. I'll post both.

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>>171695405
BY THE LADY

Hundred years war mod lad, did you finish uploading the mod to Mega?

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>>171696846

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>>171694989
>redditors stealing memes again for upbotes

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>completely btfo enemy spears in melee
>as they rout all of the enemy skrimishers no longer have to worry about ff
>they all simultaneously open fire on my armored swords
>literally evaporate them in seconds

I'm pretty fucking triggered right now

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>>171697213
Thanks. The first one looks really good.

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How do you prioritize these?
>Devastating Charge
>Deadly Blade
>Thick-skinned
>Hard to Hit
I've been grabbing thick-skinned first because I think it makes you more survivable during auto resolve and I noticed characters and giants take a beating during those.

>>171697418
It's not my work, I found them posted in the thread and saved them.

And yeah, the first one is real pretty. I like the second one for more of a random scatter shot.

>>171697432
I typically go for whatever is worse out of melee attack/melee defence, unless the character is a missile magnet like kholek/durthu

>>171695954
Is that a necro that doesn't look like shit?

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Goblin Dabbing

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go peasants go!

>>171698443
P E A S A N T R Y

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>>171698443
>should we move the trebuchets?
>I think this is fine

no peasants no!

>>171695954
>mad direwolf .357
>da gyrobomb
>lore of death sauce with liquid waaaagggh

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING Peasants will be a superpower by 2020, you'll see

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>>171698889
>peasants thinking they would have a stable society without noblety

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>>171694857
>mfw

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feels edition when?

>>171699381
When you post a real pic and not a thumbnail

>>171697432
Thick skinned, Hard to hit, Deadly blade, and charge in that order. Most leaders already start with a pretty high melee attack so I focus on keeping them standing as long as possible to help maintain discipline longer and keep them in the fight. Deadly blade only if I feel like I'm struggling against enemy lords, and charge never, there are almost always better choices.

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>>171699569
>:(

My external HDD with all my whole 4chan-folder stopped working sometime last fall. I've been trying to rebuild since.

Any recommendations for recovery software?

When is a good time to Confederate? Turn 30 as White Dwarf, I can confed Zhufbar already.

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Won the Westphalian campaign, here is a quick look at my territory - eastphalia and the danes are both my vassals, with the other pagan factions as military allies

Heres how the saxons play

>form a shield wall
>throw javelins at enemy cav

Saxon cavalry can do very well if they get their javelins off, especially if the enemy is in diamond/wedge formation. Frankish armies that bring 6-8 units of horsemen get absolutely shat on by any kind of skirmishers (I used levy skirmishers in every battle for this campaign). Seax warriors are great main line units due to their bonus vs infanty and ap damage, but its lame how they upgrade into armored swords instead of armored seax warriors.

How is one supposed to beat the Wood Elves in a straight fight? No amount of cavalry on gods green earth can catch their archers who ride cavalry and fire with godlike accuracy, no front line can hold against them long enough for your Hammer to strike because they're already dead because they got shot and I'm about 90% sure that wherever you fight Wood Elves, they get some advantage in map selection that picks maps that are majority forest. I hate Wood Elves so god damn much. I fought an Army in Ostland and the map was an Athel Loren one with fancy blue moon runes and gargantuan trees with neat handy dandy cliff faces for the Wood Elves and only the Wood Elves. Fuck them.

>>171699858
Now look at this net, that I just found!

>>171699797
If you can deal with the public order hit you should just do it.

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>>171698889

>>171700129
Did, then reloaded because they are being assfucked by Manny+another army and its impossible to hold. Feels like anytime I confed, its just because that faction was getting fucked so hard.

>>171700229
>Feels like anytime I confed, its just because that faction was getting fucked so hard.
That's how it works, you know.

>>171699976
Is that the Celestial wizard?

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Is there a mod in the vein of Empire Total Factions for Total Warhammer? I'm mostly concerned about playing the unplayable factions, especially Karak Norn or Wissenland.

Is there a mod to give Bretonnians bombards, but with worse stats than the Empire variants?

>>171700229
I almost never confederate Zhufbar for that exact reason. Let them take the hits from the Vamps, up to getting wiped out, until I'm ready to deal with Mannlett once the orcs are somewhat contained.

>>171699858
They're flammable, allegedly. That only really applies to fighting them as dwarfs though.

>>171700229
Yeah, confederation Zhuf is maybe best left for when you're planning to start fighting zangunnaz anyways.

>>171699768
I don't have much but here you go.
https://mega.nz/#F!BpFXSTxL!QqEz4aF67RcrVIrca-WIzw

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>Will you yield the city?
>Before I lose it I will burn it to the ground
>You will destroy it?
>Every stone, and every Dawi you kill will take three of you with him
>You will destroy your army here and never raise another, I swear by Grungni that to take this city will be the end of you

>>171701286
RIGHT
THE
WRONG

What if the book of grudges fell on the highkings foot and that act had to be put in the book of grudges? How would the dawi avenge such a transgression?

>>171701661
There would be a Grudge against whoever dropped it.

>>171698781

nice

>>171701661

Declare a grudge against air itself for not stopping the book.

Karl is not my Emperor!

>>171701661
You questioning the methods of the Book of grudges is going in the Book of Grudges.

>>171701286

>ded sno niggahs
>ded stunties

An nuthin o' value waz lost

>>171699805
W E S S E X
E
S
S
E
X

>>171702240
I think one of Thorgim's big policies was to cool it on new petty Grudges till we get some old ones out of the way,

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The background settlements always look more interesting to explore and defend than the actual settlements you get. It's retarded that the Dwarfs have to defend some tiny outer wall rather than being able to hunker down in this beastly citadel.

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>tfw scared of poking the greenskin deathball with my rocks

>>171702781

Interesting set up

What happens in the centre as lines merge

>>171702781
What the fug is that formation, laddie

stupid fucking scandis

>>171703312
Not him but I've used a similar formation, your two captains charge and intercept the center tying up multiple units, your bows or guns can just tee off on blobbed up infantry.

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>>171702781

>putting hammerers in the flank against greenskins who always bring their shitty wolf archers

Put them in the middle or somewhere far away from missile fire

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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Woah

Getting towards the endgame as the Dwarfs, my first campaign.

1. How the fuck do I stop constant Chaos blobs invading my northern birders? I've killed that prick Archaon like 4 times already.

2. Why can't I confederate Clan Angrund?

3. Will the fucking Brettonians ever stop asking me to attack the Wood Elves? I've had them ask me every turn for the past 30 or so turns trying to throw gold in my face.

>>171703768
When you kill them all, laddie.

Because Belegar best dorf.

Yes, as soon as you burn down Athel Loren.

>>171703585
jesus christ dude. Gelt in my campaign is a complete pussy, him and my fire wizard manage to bang out two spells and then shit their pants and run because someone shot an arrow at them. I miss Franz

>>171703875
Ungrim best dorf.
I haven't got the DLC yet.

And I'm going to, in time. Currently just finishing up in the Badlands to secure my southern border and repelling constant Chaos invasions.

Still need to finish off those fucking goths in Sylvania first though.

>>171703585
>Balthazar "The Gelded" Gelt putting spoopys in their place

By
The
Hammer

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>>171703312
>>171703345
>>171703518
this waste of Dawi lives oughta go on the Book

Anyway I used that kind of formation to try to intercept the wolf riders and stop them from shitting all over my artillery with semi-satisfactory results

The center was a bit open when the lines merged but the greenskins didn't push through it oddly enough, so it just became a slaughterhouse with the quarrelers and catapults firing point blank into the gap

the quarrelers and catapults got 2300 kills among them

>>171695378
In many cases of the various -lands it's not all that precise.

I agree that Ostermark is pretty much Poland.
Nuln is Nuremberg.
Carroburg is (sorta) Cologne

But:
Border Princes are Habsburg/Austria, black eagle on golden shield is pretty much a dead giveaway.
Reikland is nothing specific from the HRE, though Altdorf is moslty Frankfurt.
Nordland is Sweden, at least by their colours. (Yes, Sweden was not in the HRE, but they intervened in the 30 Years War, which is what the Empire is stuck in for all eternity)
Marienburg is Hanseatic League and Netherlands

>>171703312
The AI cant handle non standard formations, in that set up they would all get tied up in the center by lords then shot to bits. The only exception is other 1 unit models, which you have to either block with your own unit or use something with mass.

The only other formation that works better than broken up ones is ultra tight boxes/'cup' shapes to stack buffs over a whole army.

>>171705143
Didn´t sweden pretty much own the northen german provinces at a time too?

Dear man-things,

Your warlord, Karl FranzFranz, is very stupid and not very good at backstabbing. Dwarf-things (us) are much better at kill-kill and our breeders are much prettier. You will all squirt the musk of fear once we come down from the hill-hills, led by Thorgrim Grudgebearer, Horned Rat curse his name-name. The only way to stop us is by leaving as much warpstone as ratmanly possible outside of your sewer entrances in every city. We need this to defeat the most potent of potentates, the most illustrous of illustrouses, Grey Seer Thanquol, Horned Rat bless his great name--you would do well to erect monuments to him lest you incur his wrath. He is incredibly furry, handsome, and has a very long tail.

Sincerely,
Dwarf-things

>>171705465
I appreciate this post

>>171705164

Hmmm

I'd do some custom battle fuckery but discovering another way to game the AI probably isnt good for my campaign sanity

>>171698443
what fucking use is there for peasants? Why do so many upgrades revolve around them but not fucking men at arms?

Is it even worth having a Runesmith in your stack? I know Engineers are great because of the ranged buffs but I find the runs pretty underwhelming.

Wheres my old friend
I shouldnt be hoping to hear about it before the 31st but I want it

>>171705989
Men-at-Arms are peasants

>>171706059
>Is literally the best hero the dorfs have to offer worth

Yes.

>>171706059
They're not slouches in melee and those runes are a lot better than they seem

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>>171706059

>he doesnt like runesmiths

>>171706436
I need more room for grudge throwers though

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We Navarre again. Time to kill the Aragonese, then whip around and beat up some fucking Castilians.

also i think i started uploading this mod to mega for some anon and its almost done and ill post the link when it is if anyone else wants to get it bc its hard to find and moddb sucks

>>171706059
Once they get some levels they can fight in melee just fine, and make the dwarfs around them even more unkillable. I stick a runesmith in as many armies as I think I can get away with.

>>171705989
Mate

There's not a single Bretonnian infantry that isn't peasants.

Everything that says it buffs Peasants (not Peasant MOB, peasants) buffs every infantry, even squires

>>171705989
They're okay at helping add bulk to the main battle line; as long as you've got someone else fighting the enemy first, they can do some decent damage just because of the fact that they have numbers. They're also fairly cheap, which can occasionally be useful when you want lots of expensive cavalry, but also some meatshields too. Their numbers probably make them good at absorbing a charge, come to think of it.

But yeah, they are really a unit that's fluffy at best, and they're not worth taking when there's a limit on peasant units in your army. If you can't get at least some men-at-arms with swords, then you're really fucked.

>>171706919

Oh ffs.....

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>>171696131
>unironically posts asmr videos

kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ThoH3xkq4

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>>171706796
Alright, they're taking too long so we're gonna sally and NIGHT ATTACK!

>>171705337
Sweden controled Mecklenburg and Pommerania, Denmark controled Slesvig or whatever it is called.

But seriously, keeping track of the 500 year clusterfuck that waws the HRE is pretty much hopeless.

The best you can hope for is is to do what the French did: Pay them so they keep fighting each other, and watch from the sidelines.
Admittedly, that backfired a bit whenever the infighting stopped, like in 1870. And 1914. And 1941.

>>171707331
>syphilis addled peasant brain

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>>171705465
this message is not weird in any way

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>>171707447
What a cute little flag!

>>171706185
>
>>171706919
even still, peasant mobs seem to get upgrades that shitters at arms don't
you faggots knew i meant peasant mobs, i oughtta slap you

>>171707447
What's that smiley next to Petiri?

*clicks enemy army*

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>>171705465

>>171705465
by sigmar, no

>>171706798
Once you get to the end of the yellow line they're a decent melee fighter and they can stack buffs on friends around them like no business. Sure theyre not going to solo Archeon but if you put them in the middle of your infantry they become crazy durable.

>>171705465
hahaha its funny because it is obviously a skaven pretending to be a dwarf! You can tell because of the way you typed it out! As a redditor who is a big fan of the skaven and can't wait for their release as the "old friend", I am giving you one upvote!

>>171707351
ASMR was invented by Pagans

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>>171708009
Battle won with minimal casualties, lots of running back and forth, and man, can someone teach me how to use Jinetes and missle cav like that? They always get torn to pieces when I try to use them.

>>171708386
It's the symbol that comes up when an army would be destroyed should they lose the battle.

>>171709126
>a skaven
A what?

>>171700765
Brets having flaming arrow archers now. Haven't used them against Welves, but they tear through Undead armies.

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>>171709362
Holy shit, the Bretons are actually at war with the French. Godspeed, you bastards.

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GONNA STAB

>>171709362
Treat them as very mobile skirmishers. Wait until the enemy is forced to turn his back towards you (i.e. engaged with an ifnantry squad of yours), then maneuver behind them and throw the javs until you run out. Optionally chase down enemy archers.

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>>171701128
Thank you very much, anon. I shall cherish these images.

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>>171709863
Alright! The Castilians were neutral for a while, but they've finally thrown in with the Aragonese.

Petiri here is sprinting back to Pamplona as fast as possible, and mayybee with some of these fancy new mercenaries that have finally spawned.

Jaca in Aragon is pretty easily defensible, and Aragon as a faction literally has to rely on mercenaries at this point, unless they convert one of their cities into a castle.

So, /twg/, I need your help. Do I go for the knockout punch or death by 1000 cuts?

Knockout punch:
>Head for Castile's only castle
>Take it
>Basically win, as Castile has no ability to recruit

Pros: Fast as hell

1000 cuts:
>Take Peter here and move up the coast
>Take All of Castile's coastal provinces before moving on their inland castle

Pros: Lodsamoney and the ability to build a navy ASAP

You decide!

>>171710081
So basically hammer and anvil, except the Jinetes are a hammer u throw from a distance

>>171710437
What would you need a navy for
Cripple your enemy fast to guarantee victory, don't give them time to prepare a retaliation

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G O B L I N S

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What happens if a Chaos Dwarf takes a liking to a particularly cute Hobgoblin slave? What do the offspring look like?

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>>171710437
Oh, FUCK

I FORGOT MY VILLAGES DONT HAVE ANY WALLS

>>171710612
To move my shit up and down France faster (and maybe invade Ireland and ally the Scots)

And ports mean money, and money means armies!

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>>171710810
Oh, fuckin boy.

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whats the ladys shoe size? asking for a friend.

any mods recommended for a hun playthrough?

>>171711161
https://www.wikifeet.com/Taylor_Swift

>>171711348
Conquer Anywhere and No Welf Confed

>>171711348
I find FoTE to be good.

>>171711560

Fair warning FoTE also makes it noticeably easier

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>>171710954
Huh, even on H/H battles are stupid easy. what a waste.

...actually, shit, is there a way to check difficulty in-game? I'm p sure its H/H but just to double check.

ANYWAY! Petiri moves forward to the Castilian fortress.

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>>171711727
The Navarette gets ever closer to Burgos, and Victoria FINALLY gets a fucking palisade. Hooray for 800 dirt poor serfs.

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>>171712136
Oh, shit, uh, hey guy! Nice country you got here.

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are arab jews the best jews?

>>171712373
to be fair arabs and hebrews are from the same semitic stock, the difference is negligible

>>171712601
muh languages

>>171712665
I'm pretty sure everyone spoke to each other in Aramaic in that region.

Anyone know of any mods that give the huns the same movement trait that the roman expedition has in the last roman? I want to add that feature to their faction traits so I don't have to deal with basically 25% less movement range, since you always want to be encamped as a horde faction. If there isn't one, I might make one - it should be easy if I can remember how modding attila works

I wish trade was remotely interesting instead of
>Hey wanna trade? We'll both get free money
>BY SIGMAR THE MOUNTAIN JEWS ARE RIPPING US OFF IN TRADE I HATE FREE MONEY

>>171713137
There's stuff about trade goods? Doesn't seem all that interesting though - at least in Empire Total War, there was a vague market value to certain goods.

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>>171712346
It's ours now.

Burgos lays pretty much fucken open to us, just a two turn siege and we storm it and take it, and from there Hispania is pretty much ours.

>>171713576
there is - in wh its useless because you will never export a meaningful amount of goods. In attila however it can be extremely lucrative especially for anyone in the east who can manage to get a spice monopoly

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>>171713631
Thank you, sweet Navarese Jesus.

All that's left is Cherbourg and my cities will be at least defensible to some degree.

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>>171713928
Autoresolve for Burgos since it wasn't even close and bing bang bong we Castile now.

>>171695586
kek

>>171694039
Funnily enough, "Tay" actually means "Hand" in a certain language

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>>171714140
The Castilians are desperate for a reversal of any kind, having attempted to bribe Pamplona for about 20 turns in a row.

They decide instead that forcing the issue would give them a more favorable outcome.

It will not.

>>171708403
'AVE A CLAYMORE FOR YE, JIMMY!

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>>171708403
YOU ARE NOT MY LIEGE!

>>171714928
Pamplona still stands, and here is a state of the world close to 40 turns in.

England is getting the shit kicked out of it by the Scots.

France is getting beaten up by the Bretons and the English.

Neither Aragon or Castile have any castles left, and they're stuck in recruitment limbo.

Looks like the HRE and Flanders and Burgundy and Savoy are all doing ok. Nothing wild goin on just yet (except Brittany, that's a bit insane)

*clicks enemy fleet*

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>>171715937
Man, what the fuck? Alencon has gone through two upgrades before Cherbourg has even gotten its first. Fuck pop growth, this is bs.

In other news, Periti moves on Bilbao soon.

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Am I doin this right?

Basically I added another hun trait, and just copied the roman expedition movement trait under it - theoretically this should give the huns the same movement bonus

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>>171716280
Holy hell! Not only did Bilbao fall hella easy, but i'm not sure I've ever seen this trait before. +8 to HP?? That's insane.

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>>171715937
I tried the mod but I realized that it's based off vanilla mediveal 2 so Pikemen drop their pikes in combat which sucks. I'm playing the swiss right now in the Italian Wars 4.1 and it's pretty cool. The mod is similar time-wise with pikemen,heavy cavalry, and foreign dickfuckery but the unit rosters are more varied

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posting for all my warhammer bros

>>171716816
GOBBOS

>>171716816

Elf genocide best day of my life

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>>171716419
seems to have worked - I don't know/care enough to change the description

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>>171716502
FUCK YOU, PERFIDIOUS ALBIOOOOOON

>>171716575
Oy, yeah. Does Kingdoms drop that bug?

That mod looks bretty good, might have to give it a try.

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>>171713576
>>171713137
What they need to do is give goods an actual gameplay function besides give money when you export them. Like, you need iron to make advanced weapon buildings, wine for certain city upgrades, shit like that.

If they had a function like that, it would make sense for the AI to reject trade with potential competitors, since giving them goods would allow them to build better infrastructure. It would also make factions with lots of tradeable goods more attractive as potential trade partners.

>>171716816
>>171716816
let's see some orcies here dis shud b gud

>>171717183

>not dwarf_car

>>171717171
ya, kingdoms fixed the bugs present in vanilla, so thats why some mods like Third Age use kingdoms since otherwise units like the easterlings would of been fucked.

>>171716273
THAT'S RIGHT FOOL, IT'S AN ENEMY SHIP!

>>171717161
welp even though its listed it isn't working in game

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Rate my warhammer strats, ive been noticing my archers/handgunners weren't getting shots off because they had people infront, now they are finally wasting all their ammo getting solid ~150 kills each. They usually don't get into fights or I can send them around the side to flank shoot.

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>tfw intentionally not killing the enemy LL in battle so that he can level up and become a greater and worthy nemesis for you

anyone else?

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>>171717171
So not only did I manage to turn away that English assault, I made them pay me for a peace and give me trade rights so I have a few more turns to deal with Castile.

Speaking of, Petiri here is moving on Donostia, the Castilian capital. Good luck, Petiri!

>>171718020
I think the AI lord tends to magically level up anyway as the game progresses, even if you kill him again and again.

So I assume I should just disband these Gyrocopters after taking the Silver road right? These things seem to be doing next to nothing even when I unload their "Bombs" and have them shooting into the backs of Big'uns.

>>171716816
I AM READY! ARE YOU?

>>171718710
>Bombs and shooting into the back of large clumps of infantry are doing next to nothing.
How the hell did you manage that?

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>>171718243
Hahaha oh shit boys so not only is Donostia a great city but it literally has a greater population than all my other cities combined hahaha

Whoever predicted it before was right the Basques fucking blow

On the other hand, Donostia is mine which means sweet sweet ports and dosh and also I killed every single faction member, so Sant Ander is free for me to waltz into.

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I know theres people here who've beaten every game on legendary

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>>171719278
But I'm still happy that I was able to pull this out

Killed the whole army, fuck off back to your longboats

>>171719429
?how

>>171717898
anyone here w/ tw modding experience know why this is?

>>171719919
because

>>171716419
are you sure value 0 is correct?

>>171720026
its the way it was under the faction trait for the roman expedition, so it must be seeing as t works for them in the last roman.

>>171716816

>>171719919

Try adding something at the start of the "effect_bundles" table or whatever the table is called

For example "AA_effect_bundles"

>>171720528
did that earlier, and still no luck

>>171720184
although looking at different tables now, it seems that the roman expedition has their own, special version of every movement stance in the game.

fuck I thought this would be as easy as copy/pasting a couple of rows

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>>171720636
you can see here the bel_bundle_stance - there seems to be one for every different movement stance

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>>171719767
I had to edge of tomorrow that shit but I kept my general in back with the mortar and a unit of halberdiers, and only kept most of my melee on the walls to keep the towers shooting (not that it mattered, they had towers for almost every unit of infantry), kept them on the walls to get some tower kills them pulled as many back as I could to where the general was.

Kept most of the ranged the right side where they had a troll fuck up the gates, so they shot the shit out of the other stuff that just stood out there waiting, then pulled crossbowmen to the rear, had handgunners set up in side streets with outriders behind them.

Some good mortar shots, and a lucky unit that reformed outside the gates instead of shattering let me kill their general and kick them the fuck out.

>>171721035
I'm thinking that if I re-assign the bel_bundle_stances to the huns instead of bel_faction_byzantine_expedition that might solve the problem. Not sure, but its worth a shot

>>171721035

Try changing the bel_fact_byzantine_expedition into att_fact_hunni

>>171721627
>>171721745
just did, loading up now to see if it works

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>Decide to fight against Welf because i think I am strong enough
>Get lucky and it was an ambush
>whatcouldpossiblygowrong.jpg
>they archers vaporize the whole 4 of my archer gors in 2 volley
YOU FUCKING WHAT

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>>171721745
>>171721821
It worked! It seems the trait doesn't really do anything, and the roman expedition just has stances that don't have the minimum movement requirements. I'm going to have to see if the stance effects are the same since this basically just gives the huns the roman expedition stances

Anyone here kinda misses pre-patch tree Hitler?

>Own Middenheim, Norrland, Wastelands, and Reikland
>Everyone east and west hate me
>Vamp cunts are pushing into Empire territory
>Wissenland now owns Stirlands capital, and Nuln
>Won't let me pass through in war

is this the part where I open up a doorway to fight vamp cunts with a cannon?

>>171722483
The wood elves rarely even confederate in my campaigns now
The only way you can get them to do anything now is to get a military alliance and order them around

>>171721848
if Wood Elves are so fucking overpowered I wonder how bad actual civilized elves with technology, velociraptors, and sea dragons are.

SAGASH DURTHU

KHAZUKAN KHAZAKIT HA

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>After awakening and subjugating all of the Norscan tribes and nurturing them until the grew into beautiful, numerous doomstacks, this bird faggot turns them all against me

>>171724982
get a mod to turn that off and get the vassals cant betray you mod or whatever

>>171724982
I awaken them all then they started to fight against each other, ignored them for awhile and after 20 turns the entire north was owned by Sarl #1 strength ruining shit all the way down to the reikland

>>171724982
the way to deal with the norscans is to beat the fucking piss out of them until one remains - it doesn't matter if you are allied with them, because if you leave them be and let ruin dweller do its work in resettling everything you have razed up there you now have a norscan faction that has 0 enemies up north and as such has the resources and capabilities to send hordes of chariots down south to fuck with brettonia/the empire while you get to work on kislev and the vamp cunts. After a while, your mutual hatred of everything civilized will make you besties, regardless of whether you awakened them or beat the shit out of them for 50 turns

>>171717183
That's actually pretty cool, and could promote trying to make peace with the dwarves because you need their iron, and they might want a strong ally that could provide foodstuffs (it's not a resource now, but it could be). Wine could be necessary for taverns, salt for warehouses.

Another idea I think would be cool would be to steal from Endless Legend and have a Winter and Summer cycle. It doesn't have to be as harsh in the winter on most factions, but it would be very flavorful for Wood Elves, and might hinder armies in a way that would not hinder Norse tribes, or generally reflect unit healing.

>>171694039
F E E T
E
E
T

>>171722483
I used to be afraid of declaring war on the Wood Elves, because they would fuck me over more than the whole of the End Times.

Now I'm lucky if they come over the Grey Mountains anymore. I almost miss having something so scary, and fantastically close to the idea of the Wild Hunt and how it could fuck things up, even if it was unchecked.

>>171727409
welves should have had seasons like past total wars

>>171694171
That makes me think it counts HP lost vs HP lost.
Even if you did get most of it back.

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Any tips for Beastmeme grand campaign?
Particularly how I should build up my stuff and units?

>>171727763
hit minor settlements, get growth, spec into growth
minotaurs
encamp to hide
pee AND poo, combined

>>171727763
Horde growth and upkeep reduction are all that matters at first
Consider getting rid of your second lord and transferring all his units to your LL if you're struggling with economy early on. One large stack is easier to control than two half stacks

>>171694989
His dealings with the what?
HIS DEALINGS WITH THE WHAT?
I HAVE TO KNOW!
I'm getting flashbacks to watching DragonHeart on TV at my grandma's cottage at the lake. I didn't know anything about it before then so it was a fun amazing dragon adventure movie from what I recall.

Syracuse>Athens>>>>shit>>>>Sparta

>>171727852
Counterpoint: Keeping your second lord around as a 1-unit stack means he get develop his horde pretty far without doing much more than raiding (to keep fightiness up), baiting enemy armies close, and encamping to stay safe and comfy... and then you can swap in an LL once you unlock him and he has a nice developed horde to work with!

>>171708403
YA LA! MY SULTAN WISHES YOU DEAD.

>>171728041
I always forget that swapping lords is a thing. Makes horde management a lot easier
I wish the option to do it was in a slightly more obvious place

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>>171708403
No! NO!

>>171708403
'miring the enemy, eh?

>playing huns
>getting dosh from the ere in exchange for declaring war on minor barbar factions

fuckin neato

>>171708403
CAN YOU NOT TELL FRIEND FROM FOE?

QUIT THAT, YOU OMBACILE

>>171709126
A what? Who?

Did they remove Vlad from VC or do I have a mod doing this?

How do I fix this?

>>171729257
He's got his own faction now. Von Carstein

>>171729384
But I want him in VC.

>>171729641
Punch him in the dick until he confederates
He's right next door to you, shouldnt be that hard

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>have gotten over 10k in tribute from ere
>still haven't gotten the achievement

oh well, thanks for subsidizing the apocalypse

>>171694184
I thought they had to replace factions. Can you link to that? All the ones I've seen replace factions for some reason.

>>171694184
Oh man, that is sexy.

No link?

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>mashing f12
Damn, Chaos nearly got me there.

>>171701661
The guy that dropped it would have to apologise profusely and take the slayers oath

>>171727907
Just for you.

>>171730635
All the broken achievements in Attila twig my 'tism something fierce. AND YES, I know about Steam achievement manager, I just don't want to have to use it.

>>171731656
Thank you.
I live for the red "!"

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>>171727907
>>171731656
NATURALLY I GOD DAMN FORGET TO ADD THE PICTURE

Rejoice! The lands of Bretonnia provide you a steed!

>>171716816
gibs me dat

>>171728149
I love you.

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>Tree Hitler is capable of being nice
Holy shit

>>171731962
>Adventure of some sort.
I'm just gonna imagine he goes to get the juvenile hippogryph laid to make it feel better about failing the test.

How bad is friendly fire in Total War?

I notice in Warhammer that ranged units will stop firing and indicate "obstructed", but artillery will still maul your guys.

In Attila though, they seemed to happily shoot my own guys in the back. Is this perception or reality?

I especially noticed playing Burgundians with their triple shot slings, it seems like they ate through both the enemy and my rank 1 spears in no time.

>>171732115
as long as you kill beastmen tree Hitler is easy to please

>>171732376
depends on the game. friendly fire is in full effect and brutal in empire and napoopan. in Mediveal 2 I believed that if you cavalry charged into the backs of an ally engaged in melee, it would kill some of your dudes.

>>171732376
At least it's not like Rome 1 where if you double click enemies with hastati they'll touch edges and kill each other before charging.
It made me want to exclusively recruit town watch because I didn't know about alt-clicking for a while. Just so they wouldn't throw those stupid pila and kill 5 soldiers in each unit.
But I wish they would at least do the thing in Rome 2 where they try to shoot over your heads, very sparingly but if you're in a city, you might not have a choice.

>>171717020
Kill, Maim, Burn.
Rape[spoiler/]

>>171731318
Is Ungrim the biggest failure in the Old World?

>still hasn't fulfilled his slayer's oath

>just beat my third L campaign
>so fucking bored at how stupid and easy this ai is
please give me all the mods that make this game harder

for the love of god

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>yfw next LL is a Vampire

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>>171735187

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>>171735187

Old Friend is Nagash

>>171732609
Oh yeah, I remember in Empire/Napoleon early on gunning down my own infantry and cavalry. This is what made me wonder about if that is what is happening in Attila, especially with those crazy shotgun slings vs. the backs of rank 1 spears.

>>171735187
As much as I'd like to see Mouslin, I think we have enough fucking Vampires. Especially with so much Empire stuff to explore.

>>171733197
Slayers throw themselves at increasingly more dangerous monsters, if you keep killing them you keep getting better.

In the RPG there was a progression, something like: Troll Slayer -> Giant Slayer -> Dragon Slayer for each rank.

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>>171735187
sauce?

>>171735253
Who the fuck would he be a friend of? Krel makes more sense

>>171732115
>still I gave the order to charge

Why was he condemning over a hundred of his men to die?

>>171735437
Daemon Slayer, not Dragon Slayer. At least that's the way it goes in the RPG. Obviously a dorf can be a slayer of anything he chooses to kill him, but dying by being incinerated from the skies is hardly a glorious death they'd seek.

>Shogun 2
>Ikko-Ikki on the verge of taking out the Ashikaga
>Already took down the entire NW coast and most of central
>It's Turn 5
>I'm Oda

What the fuck happened /twg/?

>>171708403
NO MORE WORDS
DRAW YOUR SWORD

>>171735241
never noticed the swastika before

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What level of cunning is Boris on right now?

>>171708403
Get the book!

>>171697038

rollin

>>171708403
I play all vidya with sound off so I don't actually know any lines from any TW game.

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>>171735187
>mfw next LL is a Goblin

>>171737449
>female
>goblin

>>171737236
Post campaign, looks fun.

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Why is the default formation this stupid bullshit? It's really fucking annoying to have to fix this constantly

>>171737534
>Not cross dressing to trick gitz into giving you gold.

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>>171735187
>It's Ushoran

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uh

what

but..

I'm..

k

>>171737567
No, you just don't understand the intricacies of your formation. You see, if the enemy charges the center of your army they're met with a solid block of troops. It's also not the true center as you're skewed to the right. This lets you flank with lots of infantry right away and use your cav to hit from the left. If they do decide to charge your archers you're still protected by spears.
It's a win-win and you want to fuck it up. You need to just hit the infantry in front button. It don't matter, none of this matters senpai!

>>171737841

>Suthra Ek, True Everchosen of Chaos

ASININE MORTAL

>>171727907
the hippogryph literally does what ever it wants while he's using it, so what ever quest the DM wants to give

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disturbing lack of grace here tbqhwyf

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>>171738254

I'm more a Joey tbqh

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>>171738389
>>171738254
>not reppin Trish (pbuh)

>>171738389
this, grace is objectively the plebeian's choice.

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>>171738254
>>171738389
>>171738540
>>171738541

>not /ourguy/

Just lost my chaos campaign within 20 turns. Skaeling double stack attacks archaeon's weakened horde after fighting a full Varg stack.

Out numbered 3 to 1. I had terrain advantage, huge mountain they had to climb. But I guess things like fatigue don't affect the computer.

Kinda bs desu. I don't see how exhausted marauders could defeat fresh chaos warriors, regardless of how many there are.

Played to the best of my ability and outflanked them, even. Game leaves a bitter taste. What did I learn from this game to better myself in future attempts? Nothing.

>>171738671
i know manlet of macedon is a diminutive pinoy but what about legend? he sounds like he's obese and covered in chicko roll flakes

>things are going poorly
>insanely powerful dwarf stacks show up to save the day

Is there any better friend of man?

>>171722483
Blame CA for fucking up with making Chaos and Beastmen and Greenskins incompetent threats and making a good guy faction into the biggest threat

>>171738728
He's a skinny dude with a very long face. He's uploaded a video with his face in it relatively recently.

>>171738737
Don't mumble, manling. I hate mumblers.

>>171738737
>Doing poorly
>finally get Wissenland under control
>Karak Hirn declares war out of nowhere
>Razes, not sacks, razes Pfieldorf
>asks for a peace treaty and gold the following turn

Main dwarf faction is good, a lot of the others are helpful as well, especially Karak Kadrin. but Karak Hirn? they are fucking psychopaths.

>>171739027
I called him autistic once and he spazzed out and blocked me from commenting. Quite an over-reaction from some Aussie video-game player who insists on "explaining" why he chooses to keep saying nigger all the time.

>>171736867
>grosser middenland

>>171739059
>the "fuck umgi" grudge

>>171739118
Yeah, when Chaos stirred I started giving chunks of money to Kislev each turn, to keep them as a meatshield and prevent chaos from raiding my shit. As a result Chaos never went past Kislev and the old world turned into clusterfuck - Middenland went full teutonic on half the Empire provinces, Brettonia is colonising the Troll Country, Karl only has Reikland, Wissenland and Stirland (I control moot though). I think I'm just gonna hunker down and wait until Chaos runs a train on them. Last thing I want is for any of them to ally fucking dorfs, who won the badlandsbowl yet again.

>>171739059
Western Dwarfs have had too much elfish influence.

>>171735327
yeah there's friendly fire in rome and attila, that's why its good to flank with your ranged units, you hit more of them and even if you hit your onw guys you'll probably get a shield block chance.

>elves keep assassinating louen
>idle a couple lords around in cities to gain rank and upkeep reductions
>they all get assassinated too
>not enough lords in the pool to manage upkeep with constant assassinations

simply epic

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>>171739375
>tfw when you get javelins in behind an enemy unit.

>>171727593
>wild hunt
speaking of, when will someone do a Witcher Total War mod?

>>171717183
The AI wouldn't be able to handle it. Everything in the later games is about simplifying everything as much as possible to strengthen the AI. I actually don't mind that. The most glaring example is siege battles consisting only of one wall section and free magic ladders.

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>playing napoopan
>unit of mounted carbineers units wipes themselves out by friendly fire

>Imperial aversion to Vampires (-15) is 2 times smaller than Greenskin aversion to Vampires (-30)
?????

>>171708403
I will see your head rest upon a top of a pike, outlander scum!