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Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
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All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
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Tools for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
http://sv.bagoum.com

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

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>>171615891
>>
ERIS DID NOTHING WRONG
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12537776

http://www.strawpoll.me/12537758
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>>171636724
DELET THAT
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>Posting again cause mad

>All these faggots calling Rune/Forest cancer but then being totally fine with Albert being a 10 dmg swing alone turn 9

Literally fucking hate this card. Wards? Fuck that shit. He clears them solo to allow his massive shit tier 2/2 army to plow your ass open.
Win before he gets to do his shit? Ya right. Unless I play Blood or Shadow that ain't happening.

Fuck you Alberto.

>is mad
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>>171636860
>tales from b0
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>>171636860
>having an evolve point at turn 9
you have yourself to blame
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>>171636724
COW ON THE FRONT PAGE
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>>171636934

>haha man, just make the class with storm and rush followers out of the ass use an evolve on your terms.
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>>171636724
screw forte, who is that guy at the right?
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Would Shadowverse be better if it used MTG's classless 5-color system?
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>>171636724
The fuck is that centaur?
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>>171636860
Git gud faggot.
I really don't understand why all you idiots think Albert is so op, then again I don't have a problem with Daria either.
Blood and Haven are the most disgusting op pieces of shit to exist.
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>>171636934
I'd normally agree but when every thing that I put out just gets rolled over by his storm bitches and have to waste everything I have on his own wards, he basically gets to dictate how I am playing the game.
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>>171636934
Sword has a lot of Rush and such good lategame followers that it's not even a inconvenience to hold evos.
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>>171637064
No because it would let people combine the most cancerous aspects of each class.

Remember the bullshit from the new story chapters with shadowcraft and Nep pulling Leonidas? Do you want that shit in ladder?
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>>171637064
Erika and Eris are obviously white
Tokens and heals
Rowen is a Myr deck because he needs them neutrals
Uris is black
Tittymonster is blue I guess?
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>>171637118
>>171637104
>>171637026
Maybe I'm just godlike, I dunno, it's been forever since I've seen a turn 9 evolved enhanced Albert in Masters.
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>>171637091
Daria is not a problem unless she gets a nutter hand which might be 1 in 10 games.

Albertcraft is fucking cancer because everything has Rush. It's not him alone it's how the deck plays.
It's worse than playing against Blood or Shadow because they can also just pull wins out of his asshole by keeping a single evo point.

>>171637239
>Masters
Congrats I guess?
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>>171637064
So what is the meaning of this picture? Why is Rowen sitting in a wagon? I understand the eggs.
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>>171636860
never seen anyone complaining about forest desu. after the nerf with gobu . but I do agree sword niggers and rune niggers should fuck themselves.
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>turn 1 Wraith
>turn 2 Yurius
>turn 3 Yurius and Wraith
>turn 4 Vampy and Summon Bloodkin
>turn 5 DoD
The fuck was I supposed to do here?
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>>171637157
>nep pulling leonidas
Holy shit, i would have been traumatised for life, thank god i killed burglar on turn 6.
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>>171637064
Color systems only really work with resource cards. I don't see SV ever making that switch from just reliable mana.
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>>171637157
Guardian Sun Morde would be pretty awesome.
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>>171637064
It could work but the marketing strategy of this game is it being a HS clone that's less shit and has anime tiddies.
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>play against rune
>not one creature has stayed on the field for longer than his turn
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>>171637408
Trade and use your removal and hope he bricks
Concede
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Why is this allowed LMAO!!?

>11 dmg on turn 6
>Trade my mons and get rewarded for doing so

Smh
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>>171634281
Who even said anything about token generation specifically? Taboo was just an example. The point was the general concept of cards that grant a bonus when you kill the enemy's followers. Cards like Guilty Courier or Soul Eater wouldn't suddenly become broken if they included enemy followers in their effect, and it would make more sense in the class thematically than their current iterations.
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>>171637408
I only play blood aggro; what deck are you playing
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>>171637408
turn 1: have a 1 drop
turn 2: 2 damage removal + trade into yurius
turn 3: tsukome or more removal
turn 4: did i say removal
turn 5: evo play
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>>171637309
You don't even need Daria when you're staring down a 8/10 field on turn 3
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>>171637329
because hes a cripple from so many bad cards
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>>171637528
I'd call you scum but you're doing god's work by dumpstering albert shitters.
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>>171637157
>haven atomeme
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>>171637345
I'm a Rune and Forest nigger myself, They feel the most comfy coming from MtG, Daria is OP as a card but I never feel like I don't have an out playing against her.
Unless, again, she pulls the nutter hand with a constant stream of dudes.

Sword just never feels like you can do anything.
>Sweet! Wiped his board.
> Rusher, Rusher, Ward, take 4
>Well fuck
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>>171637064
>>171637216

Rowen is Red deck wins.
Urias is Rakdos (red/black)
Luna is Black.
Eris is your hybrid Azorius (blue/white)
Erika is Boros (Red/White)
Arisa is ??? green ???
Boobs is blue probably but not in the traditional control way.
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>>171637408
Trade and use removal or die. After that heal and hope he bricks.
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>>171637549
CBlood. Couldn't keep up for shit until Goblinmount turn 5 which just got immediately DoD.
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>>171637637
>rowen is rdw
>erika is boros
lol...
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>>171637535
Like I said already, I don't care about the flavor. The flavor is already fucked, but the good thing is all you have to do to change the flavor is swap the names and art, not remake the game.

I think effects that reward killing enemy followers might be interesting, but it would be difficult to deal with for certain strategies. Aggro shadow reaper is bad enough, now imagine how it would be if they had cards that cared punished you for letting your followers die after punishing you for killing their own followers. Basically it creates a situation where no matter what you do you get punished, you just have to choose your punishment. Which is fine from a gameplay perspective, but maybe not good for a game that's seen as casual by many players.
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>>171637528

It's totally balanced.

t. aggro shadow player
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>>171637637
Daria is Izzit (Blue/Red)
Arisa is either Gruul (Red/Green) for Rhino or Simic (Green/Blue) for Wolf/Tia
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>>171637064
It would be just a worse mtg without all the cool last edition cards. Case in point, Eternal and Hex.
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>>171637637
Arisa is Blue/white but not in the azorius sense.

Blue since she has bounce, "can't attack effects", and cares about spells.

White since she plays a ton of weenies.

Rowen is Green because huge dragons and ramp.

Tempo rune plays almost identically to Affinity.
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>>171637790
If you don't care about the flavor then why are you participating in a discussion of flavor? Your arbitrary concerns about a card using the mechanic hypothetically being overpowered if designed in a overpowered fashion are of no worth to the discussion, even if it was actually about balance.

>Basically it creates a situation where no matter what you do you get punished, you just have to choose your punishment
Literally calling it an issue that the opponent plays cards that have an effect on the opponent. Bravo. Bravo.
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>>171637801
>>171637528
>just had an 8 game lose streak doing my dailies where i couldn't get my turn 4 reaper play no matter what
Maybe it's my punishment for neglecting the deck after getting to Masters to play more memes.
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>>171637632
>I'm a Rune and Forest nigger myself, They feel the most comfy coming from MtG, Daria is OP as a card but I never feel like I don't have an out playing against her.
>Sword just never feels like you can do anything.
sword is definitely a more hearthstone style of deck as opposed to one with magic influences, so if you're coming from one and not the other it makes sense that it's more or less frustrating to deal with
my only problem with the rise of albertcraft is that I despise sword mirrors in a way that isn't the case for any other decks, which is inconvenient because I'm one of the niggers who got caught up by the zeitgeist telling me to play sword
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>>171637873
>Tempo Rune - Affinity
Nigger are you high? Tempo Rune is Merfolk. Affinity doesn't give a fuck about tempo when all they do is play their shitter metal bricks and smash your face open.

Rowen fine, but he's more Gruul Red/Green due to discard effects.

Also what the fuck does Blue/White but no in the Azorius sense mean? You mean pre-8th editon? When the color pie was a cluster fuck?

Green/White. Green and White get wheenies, bounce, life gain and also care about amount of/when creature spells are played.
Arisa just gets general card number play because otherwise it would be shit to keep track of for the game.
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>>171637695
If you're playing control the matchup should be pretty simple. Put in 3 Vampiric Kiss, Hungering Horde, and Unica if you haven't already. Use Veight and Healing Angels to help protect yourself. You should have at least 2 Wardrobe Raiders in the deck too. If you can stabilize around turn 6 you've pretty much already won.
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>>171637528
I can't ever get the 9 damage before T6
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>>171636724
Hey, it's Anne's familiar thing.
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Why do they keep making storm cards with competent stats? The base for a 5pp card is 4/5, so Albert only loses 1 attack to gain storm. Now forest has that jungle shit. I don't understand the logic behind cards like this. It's especially ridiculous in an attacker's choice game.

They get full value by the time you can answer them, so they should be crippled as much as fanfare cards are. Dread dragon is a 7pp 4/4 and his fanfare can't even hit face.
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>>171637983
most of my aggro shadow wins i didn't get turn 4 reaper...
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>>171637774
>Not playing JO dragon
get with the meta m8
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>>171637695
I usually beat cblood and the issue is that they don't have enough heal. You just need a bunch removal with heal tacked on or stuff that can trade.
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>>171638013
That makes more sense why I despise playing against it.
I only played Freeze mage and Dragon warrior in Herpstone before all the campaign bullshit turned me away from it.
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Hey, it's me Vampy
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Does anyone have the full comic of this Daria picture? I've seen it before but to save it
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>>171637971
I never brought up flavor, which is why I repeatedly dismiss any mention of it. Evidently that's important to you though, so feel free to stop mentioning it.

I'm on your side. I agree that "unfun" game effects are in reality only unfun for a certain group of players, and that doesn't include me. But the devs want to make money, and playing against a prison deck that punishes you no matter what play you make will be deemed unfun by casuals, so the devs choose to avoid it. That's just how it is.

It seems you're getting upset. Maybe it's late.
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>>171638045
The cost reduction of spellboost and vomiting your hand for free plays a lot like Affinity.

>Also what the fuck does Blue/White but no in the Azorius sense mean?
Nevermind, I guess detain is basically the same thing as Selwyn's effect.
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>>171638072
Because Japs don't pay attention to MTG card design? They just make w/e they feel is cool and just throw it out.
They clearly don't understand the power storm holds, compared to Rush even which in that case Albert's stats would be more than fine.

Or they just don't give a flying fuck
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>tfw still watching Kripp even tough he playing HS

Thanks Cygames for introducing Kripp to me ;^)
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So when will they nerf ancient elf ?
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>>171638263
nigger just stop
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>>171638164
I want to suckle Vampy
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>>171638164
post headwings
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>>171638072
The baseline vanilla beater card has to have either rush or ward to be relevant in this system. Storm isn't that much above the curve.

Also they clearly are going for faster games. The whole mobile game thing and score grind wouldn't work with long mtg-tier games.
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>>171638313
when they nerf albert and daria
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>>171638215
Except Affinity is not defined by a color. MTGWiki states there are 20 affinity cards 50% Artifact 45% Blue and 5% Red. That is not enough to lump into blue, especially when Affinity as a deck type only plays 2-3 Blue cards, if they choose to run them.

Basing a "color" on one card's ability is pretty dumb either way. If you want we can take it a step further and say Arisa is Bant(G/W/U)
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>>171638069
it's her stand
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>>171638045
>Also what the fuck does Blue/White but no in the Azorius sense mean?
UW tempo and not UW control
like the UWx decks that have been in standard recently, or american """control""" from modern way back when
pure roach might have been uwR with more emphasis on the R, but between ancient elf, tia, and the fact that decks that go lategame enough to merit fairy beast are still recognizably a very similar forest chassis, I think UWR tempo fits well enough
some forest mechanics might technically be in green's color pie but it doesn't remind me of any green deck I've seen in a while

>>171638215
>The cost reduction of spellboost and vomiting your hand for free plays a lot like Affinity.
affinity with no plating or ravager, yeah, that's definitely a good comparison
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>>171638072

Welcome to the powercreep and enjoy your stay.

Btw you're fucked if you play anything but forest or dshitter next expac
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I want to bounce Tia
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>>171638190
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NEED HELP
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>>171638164

>no futa vampy to stick her dick in your mouth as she says http://usamin.love/card/vania_vampire_princess/e_attack.wav before blowing her load into your mouth

Staying in this world was a mistake.
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>>171638537
thanks senpai
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>>171638516
midrange sword will be the most cancer imo
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>>171638438

It should be other way around. AE comes out before both daria and albert so it should get nerfed first.
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>>171638537
This needs an update with Erika pulling Alberts out of her skirt.
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>>171638565

This isn't even a question. Left.
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Do you keep shadow reaper in your hand as aggro shadow if you have a 1 drop too?
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>>171638578
>futa
No thanks.
I'd rather just have dickgirl vampy
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>>171638664
>Erika
you mean maid leader
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I want Lunapedos to leave right now
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>>171638720
going 1st probably not, going 2nd yes
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>>171638565
Everyone saves removal for bahamut. Olivia can also win you the game, without going all in on Bahamut. Odin also shits on other mords.
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>>171638565
Right, you have 5, 1 drops, 4 2drops, and 10 3drops. You can curve out like aggro shadow and win before turn 8.
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>>171638781
Declined.
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>>171638720
I'd keep Reaper anyway just because you get fucked by so many things when you don't draw it.
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>>171638823
>you have 4 2drops
>You can curve out like aggro shadow and win before turn 8
nigga what
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>>171638514
Except the entire original question is using colors for Shadowverse, which isn't very helpful in the first place since crafts have a ton of different shit from different colors.

Arisa - Bounce, Life gain, big dorks, storm effects, detains, little tokens, kill spells/ping dmg.
That alone has Green, Red, Blue and White.

Daria - Kill spells of all kinds, relevant creatures, draw, "sacrifice" in the form of Earth Rite, free spells, life gain in small scale.
Red, Black, Blue and a splash of white or green, depending where you want spell based life gain to go.

Basically the short answer is no, mtg color system would be pointless as every craft has at least 3 colors to it.
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>>171638395
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>>171638781
I want shortstack lovers to leave right now
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>>171638605

sword is inherently weak to forest ever since its conception,so no it will die horribly to forest's bullshitery,like always

the only time sword shine against the treehugger was during roach zerg,and that's only because aurelia and fortress gen. cockblock their unga t7 me win
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>>171638739
what's the difference?
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>>171638739

So her(male) basically?
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>>171638781
I want Shorte to stay so I can continue getting easy wins with her
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>>171638207
You're right, you didn't, because I did bring it up. In the first post of the conversation that you're now participating in. Granted, at this point I care more about trying to figure out what on earth it is you're even attempting to convey, because so far I've only seen nebulous concerns that could be attributed to any mechanic ever designed.

For example, now you've taken to calling it "unfun". Can you actually show how this mechanic is supposedly more "unfun" in shadow, relatively speaking, than other mechanics or in other classes, without resorting to arbitrary statements of opinion? Preferably while restraining yourself from making petty off-topic remarks.
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>>171638313
When the forest stops crying for help.
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Can i get some luck right now? I have a bad habit of tilting
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>>171638907
this vampy forgot to put on her panties...
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>>171638605
Everything is going to be cancer outside of like Shadow and Dragon. Not looking forward to this meta.
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>>171639036
just remember your doing it for forte
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>>171639036
I believe in you, dork
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>>171639036
May your opponent brick like no one has ever bricked before. May all their Neps and Khawys be in the deepest recesses of their deck, never to see play.
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>>171639036
DO
IT
FOR
HER
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>>171639036
Your next opponent will be Forest that bricks to shit. Congrats on Masters.
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>>171639036
GANBATTE FORTE
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>>171639087
oops
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Does anyone play normal non-Seraph Elana anymore?
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>>171639036
>not rowen

Bad luck will rain upon you.
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>>171639036
Post deck after your win!
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>>171639251
Is she gonna be alright?
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>>171639381
why wouldn't she be
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>>171639381
possibly mindbroken
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>>171639557
>>171639429
What's the point of those head wings
They don't allow flight, and if they did it would look absolutely ridiculous
Is it just a horrible mutation?
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>>171637157
>X/7/8/9 Nep
They deserve to win if they manage to pull that off.
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first game against a wolfbolt who ran homecoming and won on turn 10 when he was 3 hp and i was 18 (20 the round before but he homecominged into roach)
2nd game against a midrange sword who evolves awelidas twice, then albert at turn 9. I had 3 lucifers in my hand.
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So we have a vampire princess, prince and queen. Who the FUCK is the vampire king? Alucard?
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>>171639654
they are very very cute
she moves them adorably when she emotes

proper animal ears are more cute though
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How do you lose against wolfbolt? Just don't play anything with 4 attack and they lose their win condition.
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>>171639817
urias!
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>>171639036
Win or no, just take a breath or something if you feel yourself getting mad, stand up and chill for a moment if an aggro deck curves perfectly so you can analyze your options. Good luck anon and leave the salt in the shaker instead of that previous thread.
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>>171639917
20 damage roach
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>>171639790
Damn, he was supposed to brick. My card game clairvoyance usually doesn't let me down.
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>>171639917
they can ram the wolf twice
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>>171639917
>Just don't play any cards and let them chip you to roach range
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anyone else like to dab when they win?
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>5 lose streak
>turn off opponent emotes
>6 win streak

Uhh shadowbabs?
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>>171639917
Not like they play Roaches or anything.
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>>171639654
they look cute
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>>171640165

Nah making up stories is more my jam.

>Runecraft vs. Havencraft
>Runecraft goes first

Turn 1: Isabelle infiltrates the church and uses Insight to devise a plan on how to take the evil priestess down.
Turn 2: Isabelle can hear Eris praying from deep within the church. Pray all you want, Isabelle thought. I'm still going to fuck you up. Sacred Plea is played.
Turn 3: "Allow me to show that whippersnapper something, M'Lady!" the Timeworm Mage exclaimed. "Patience, old man. Your time will soon come." Isabelle passes turn.
Turn 4: Eris summons Mainyu. "I am a formless being." The creature announces as its body materialize "Pure evil is within me. I dwell... within you." Isabelle bites her lips as Eris channels her holy (evil) powers into the creature to evolve it. Mainyu laughs maniacally as it became stronger. "Think upon it. Do you see? Yes. I am you. I dwell within you. The cold, hard evil that you feel... That is me." Eris releases a dog from her Michael Kors purse and ends her turn.
Turn 24: Isabelle loses all energy in her legs and falls down to her knees. "I.... I can't believe I bricked..." She stares at her hand of 3 unboosted Dimension Shifts. The board is clear except for a Seraph Lapis, Glory Be standing tall and proud, its beauty and luster making Isabelle anxious and wet. Eris walks up to Isabelle and gently caresses her cheeks. "Do not worry, my lost lamb." She puts her head next to Isabelle's ear, as if to lick it with her tongue. "I WILL LIBERATE YOU!!!!!!" The loud warcry of the priestess shatters Isabelle's eardrums and an American Eagle swoops down from the church's ceilings, sprinkling glass from above and raining down on Isabelle, dealing 3 damage to her face. Suddenly, the Seraph statue explodes into glorious fireworks, ending Isabelle's suffering and making her cum 9 liters, her final thoughts were of regret, wishing she had masturbated before taking the priestess on.
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>>171638892
>crafts have a ton of different shit
but individual decks don't, and are relatively simple to categorize
lifegain is white, stop huffing NWO
if a deck runs demonic strike, dance of death, and/or storm finishers, it's red
if a deck runs ramp or fat overstatted creatures, it's green
if a deck features more card draw than just 3x of a draw 2 card, it's blue unless that card draw is dire bond
razory claw is black
if a deck features a dedicated removal (can't go face) package, it's either white or black depending
if a deck has a decent distribution of wards, that's not directly mappable onto magic but it makes sense to call it white
every deck in the game is easy to classify this way
erika is WR, arisa is UR(w), dshift is U(w)(b), daria is RUG, control haven is UW, storm haven is WGR, aggro blood is BR, control blood is Br(w), face dragon is mono-R, ramp is G(w)(r) depending on how much of the storm/saha packages it includes, nep shadow is WB, aggro shadow is mono-R by my metrics and could honestly be mono-R in a graveyard based set but wizards would probably ghettoize effects like shadow reaper into black
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Having never played RoB or GBF, fapping to vampy feels like cheating
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Why does Alwidas command cost 6 and not 7 for how efficient it is?
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>Download Shadowverse 3 days ago
>Starting Freebies get me Aggro blood, Seraph , halfway to roach decks
>Start using arena tickets
>Averaging 3.8 wins
>Last run was 5-0 Bladecraft with ridiculously good cards
>thoroughly enjoying enjoying solo modes
>21 hours played

How long until I become jaded and sick of the game? I don't want the ride to be over anytime soon. had 3 of pic related and she carried me through almost every match in Take Two
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>>171640362
It's a 5/5 worth of stats, has as much attack as an imp lancer and ward dies to pretty much anything.
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Remember when people thought Aria was a good card?
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So is Cerb good in shadow decks again now?
I keep seeing her everywhere now
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>>171640251
What the fuck
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>>171640425
Yeah but it makes 2 creatures, not one. It wouldn't be nearly as valuable if it was a single creature 5/5 ward storm.
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>>171640484
Cerb has always been a good card.
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reveals when god dammit
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>>171639917
Yeah dude just leave it there it's not like he'll play roach next turn right
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>>171640558

It's a post from last night that I copied
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I just marathoned all night from C0 to B1
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>>171640589
Not to long ago I recall everyone complaining how she was too slow for the meta at the time
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>>171640584
Are you saying monika and warbound cavalier are op because they make 2 bodies, or tia off combo?
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How many fortes a forte needs to get her fortes right?
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New Update: You can no longer redraw the same card when mulling and can now designate up to 3 cards in your own decks to have a 30% increased draw rate during the initial draw phase

Your thoughts?
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>>171640930
First is fine second is stupid
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>>171640930
This
>>171640948
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>>171640930
Yeah dude let's make dshift more consistent
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>>171640930
kill yourself
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>>171640341
I too have trouble fapping to things I haven't played or watched but sometimes you have to make exceptions.
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Am I the only one that feels anger as soon as I'm queued against a Haven player?
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>>171640387
Depends on how much you tryhard, I guess.

If you tryhard with sword you may not ever reach that point. Who knows?
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>>171640779
With how crazy things are now she would be better as a 4/4 but she's still a vital part of Aggro Shadow.
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New Update:
Arisa chest size increased by 35%
Erika chest size increased by 10%
Isabelle chest size decreased by 20%
Forte no longer uses female pronouns
Luna chest size increased by 250%
Vampy chest size decreased by 100%
Eris chest size increased by 25%
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>>171641243
stay mad swordbab TG
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>>171641243
Yep. Because you know win or lose the game won't be fun. Same with Rune.
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>>171641160
The worst is niggers who use anime reaction faces from shows they haven't seen.
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>>171640387
Just start/keep making homebrew decks, it feels nice to play with the shit you made you know. You'll eventually get bored of it if you keep netdecking, just use them as references.
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>>171641243
you are not alone
stop banishing my play point
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>6 loss streak
>finally win
>against D-shift
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>>171641243
I am that Haven player.
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>>171641243
Yes, because they're going to drag out the game for fifty fucking turns whether they win or lose
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>>171641308
Vampy is going to cave in.
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>>171640387
Climbing the ladder can be pretty tiring, so you might get sick of the game at points
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anyone interested in watching if i streamed for about an hour
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>Trying to do 4 haven wins with Seraph deck
>Dirt, Dirt, Dirt, D-shitter that runs petri, easy win OTK dragon that fucked up, Dirt, Dirt.
Help. Whats up with this morning and all this petrification bullshit.
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>>171641390
You don't understand how percents work, do you?
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>>171641435
just elena bro
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>>171641243
>Turn 1 Scrap-Iron Smelter
>Eris concedes

Nah.
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>>171641435
Switch to storm. Even with all its wards dirt can get run over by aggressive decks.
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>>171641501
Remi is cute CUTE
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>>171641401
Only if you are master and have Daria sleeves.
not really tho, I have to go to work in 30 mins
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HEAR?
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>>171641501
Yuuki Aoi kyut girl
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How viable is Face Dragon? Need a cheap deck for dailies
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why the fuck do i keep getting matched against rune shitters with perfect draws
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feels a waste to re-roll 6 ranked wins into win 1 game with dragoncraft but i need rupees for the next expansion/
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>>171641576
Ganbatte fotre-chan
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Which craft fucks up with forest niggers the most?
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>>171641376
Have fun in hell
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>>171641634
Very good. All the pings really help it early against other aggro.
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>>171641690
Probably Haven.
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>>171641401
Sure.
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>>171641690
Haven, sometimes sword
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>>171641661
>I'll get 2k score and call it day
>constantly matched up against control decks with perfect draws
> 7 losses in a row, win 1 then continue to lose
send help
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>>171640656
There was one not more than 15 mins ago
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>>171641763
>>171641789
More than daria?
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>>171639006
Dude, I already told you, I don't consider it unfun. I'm literally saying that I'm agreeing with you, but other positions exist, and those positions have more influence than mine because those positions are held by the people designing the game. At this point I don't even know what you expect from me.
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>>171641857
Daria is generally even unless they nut draw
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>>171641661
nip times man
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>>171641576
Post dick
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>>171641954
It seems like getting nut drawn are the majority of my forest losses.
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>>171642018
probably a expensive ass fuck ramp deck
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>>171641776
twitch /scarth23
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>>171642195
will you perform an erotic dance?
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>>171642195
Fuck off scrath. Don't you have to keep savescumming for perfect rolls on splatoon. Fuck you.
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i hate vampy shitter so god damn much
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Netdeck a cheap dragoncraft deck just because it was cheap. It sucked until I found out that it was based around wildfang dragonewt.

Just did 17 damage in one turn and opponent DC'd

Any other cool niche decks that are cheap?
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>>171642195
Might just be my phone being a shit but it's loading endlessly.
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>>171641763
>>171641697

What kind of Haven, Seraph?
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>>171642467
i turned the bitrate down for you.

>>171642306
who is this
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>>171642195
you serious that you called people in to watch you play bats? go away
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>>171642479
Basically all Haven. Not storm though
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>>171641243
I feel immediate asspain whenever I queue up against a Vampy player because you know for a fact they're going to be an unga blood shitter.
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>>171642704
I am that Vampy player
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27423

i just lost 1000 point in ranked and went down one rank, please concede so i can go to sleep and never wake up again
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>>171643008
Good bye
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>>171643008
Serves you right you shitty old hag.
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>>171643008
Thanks friend
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>>171641534
Switched to storm, face more dirt.
Eagle their face off before they get to drop a single golem. This is the best feeling
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>>171643209
No problem old lady
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HEAR THE DRAGONS ROAR
>>171642018
hear my friend, replace the blazing breaths with unica
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>>171643237
>pitty
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>>171643275
congrats dork
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>>171643275
How did you manage to make an image that large?
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>>171643356
snipping tool, my print screen doesnt work
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Die, you cum-guzzling, dimension-shifting slut.
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>>171643275
>hear
where
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>>171643275

>opponent is prof.ER

How the actual fuck did you win ? That deck has like a fuckton of single target removal,it's supposed to be one of dragon's bad MU
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>>171643524
http://imgur.com/a/NQXF2
forgot to link my bad
>>171643528
I killed both his bahamuts, he didnt draw satan, we both oliviaed.
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>tfw you crush a shadow player who proceeds to show you what awaited you had you failed to kill him sooner
>drops Lord Atomy through the power of vitamin C
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>>171643483

>satan haven winning against dshift

the fuck ?
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>>171643483
The death of any d-shift player is always a joyous one
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>>171643605
Seraph Haven, actually. Santa is there in case some fucker banishes too much.
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>>171643565
why no fortes?
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>>171643682
Must be one hell of a brick if he gave up with full hand like that
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>>171643854
The deck does not rely on burn to win, and youre playing from behind 95% of the time. Forte and Genesis in sahaluci is a big reason why ramp dragon has a 44% win rate
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>>171643854
oh nvm I didn't see santa
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>>171643854
>>171643916
Oh and i forgot to mention, take out one of the odins for olivia, its much better then 2 odins. Olivia pretty much guarantees a win against another control deck
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>>171643565
>http://imgur.com/a/NQXF2

I don't see any olivia in there.
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79140
Please concede
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>>171643903
Well had 8HP left anyway.
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>>171643989
Yeah its an outdated list my bad, replace 3 blazing breaths for unica and 1 odin for olivia
>>171643995
my brain is completely melted after playing for like 14 hours straight im sorry
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70% of the games are d shift
50% of the blood games are control blood
Haven is all storm haven
Dragon is all Sahaluci
Shadow is all neph
How terrible am i?
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>>171644041
Thanks, Morty!
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>stabilize against an aggro deck at 5 defense
>two fat wards up
>they just topdeck spells for 3 turns and kill me with them
Will they ever add a way to stop spells?
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>>171644190
weebcuck/10
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>>171644190
net decking nigger
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>>171644190
>70% of the games are d shift
>50% of the blood games are control blood
Wow you're cancer from both sides of the spectrum.
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>tfw there's not even an animated in the pack
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>>171641840
iktf, bruh. Had that happen to me yesterday.

>53 points away from moving up from AA0 to AA1
>start losing to Darias, Alberts, and D-Shifts
>lose 1900 points

The amount of salt I had would have wiped out the ocean ecosystem
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>>171644227
i hope never, we already have way too many cancer wards, healing etc, cancer control gets a lot of support the next expansion too

dunno about you i see neither fun nor skill in stalling the games forever
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>>171644314
Yes there is a lot more skill in playing followers on curve, ignoring the board, and going face no matter what
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>>171644314
Oh yeah, because it's so skillful to end the game with 0 interaction whatsoever.
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I have no idea which deck would even use the Date sleeve. But I've got it now and I'm kinda glad I did.
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>>171644381
Stalling until you draw your otk is not fun too.
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>>171644381
Aggro vs control has infinitely more interaction than dshift vs anything.
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>>171644359
a proper aggro needs some trading though

meantime control is just a mindless stalling on curve
>>
88090
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>>171644448
Control decks aren't OTK decks. Those are called combo decks.
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>>171644041
I want Medusa to ride my snake!
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Need concede
13522
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>>171644501
There's no difference in SV. They gave everyone a turn 9 otk.
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>>171644572
Thanks Nep.
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god damn why are there so many nep shadow players today

i'm trying to play a control deck and you're making it feel like pulling teeth with your dumb carrots and death's breaths
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>>171644634
the 2/2 and wards are what's giving your control deck trouble?
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>>171644634
neps been gaining in popularity because its a control deck that does well against other control decks that aren't haven.
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>>171644598
Those aren't control decks, they're combo decks pretending to be control decks.

Control blood and non-nep control shadow are some actual control decks that just win by outvaluing the opponent in the long term. They don't see much play because this meta is disgusting.
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>>171644665
yes having to spend my resources that would have gone lethal that turn to take care of 2/3 wards because i haven't drawn my AoE and a carrot that's just endless shadow fuel but that i can't stop because i need to save my transform card for the mordecai IS giving me trouble thanks for fucking asking
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>>171644496
For any archetype, a mirror match requires more thought than any other match. Aggro vs Aggro requires trading to keep up the pressure without dying, Control vs Control is a battle of resources, etc. You can see a good Aggro player when he's against another Aggro player.

Aggro vs Control is one of the most boring match-ups for both players, and it's the most common one. The aggro player doesn't have to worry about its health and can focus all its resources to kill, while the control player focuses 100% of its resources to survive. No skill whatsoever on both sides.
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>>171643565
So how was the Dragon experience in AA? Did you play mostly that or switched around a bunch?
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>>171644739
>>171644739
what makes nep shadow any less of a control deck, nep isn't a combo card, she's an insane value card
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>>171644706
does it really do WELL because I'm playing with a shitty control forest and i'm only losing half the time
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>>171644826
Dragon was by far the most consistent class in AA for me
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>>171644751
>and it's the most common one
(being reductive and assuming everything is either aggro or control and ignoring subtypes) that can't be true without biased matchmaking
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>>171643008
crossie detected
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>>171636724
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY WAIFU ANNE?
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>>171644845
It normally wins or loses before turn 10 since it can consistently get Mordecai out. It's an aggro-control hybrid at best, way too fast to be called a control deck. Not to mention it runs out of cards much faster than others.
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>>171644914
If you are playing control non-ptp forest, what's your wincon?
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>>171644914
>control forest
Now that's a spicy meme.
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>>171644962
that's grea
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i want to play sahaluci dragon so forte will smile at me, but i can't afford it
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>>171644995
>aggro-control hybrid
Isn't that just called midrange?
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>>171644962
>>171645045
thats the dork nerd


>>171645086
I know how you feel anon
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>>171645086
get gud
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>>171645086
she smiles more at aggro dragon anyway
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>>171636724

What is the name of this card in Rage ?

Btw just finished checking out RnB,battle just look amazingly boring. Like seriously how did anyone manage to enjoy that ?
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>>171645123
do you have a list or just use one from gameai?
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>>171645118
I'd say it's a subset of midrange, sure. But pure midrange decks can often win before turn 8.
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>>171644919
I ignored Combo in my post, but Combo vs Combo isn't any better. It can lead to pretty retarded coin-flippy match-ups where first vs second can change everything, due to hand size or other factors. See Seraph mirror for example.
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>playing Control Sword
>everyone quits around turn 5 thinking it's Albertcraft
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>>171645191
I wasn't contradicting your point, it was good. I was just nitpicking and pointing out that for any division of decks into types there are more homogeneous pairings than heterogeneous ones.
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>>171645256
Oy vey, first they came for the last words, then they came for the RNG.
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>>171645147
Its the same as granblue. Also, the point of RoB is the story and interaction with other people, as I remember.
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>>171645256
What a weird card.
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>>171645280
Because I'm picking nits I guess I'll correct this. There can be more hetero pairing with more than 2 categories but I meant what I said when limited to any pair of categories.
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>>171645001
memes

>>171645018
gotta use that one rose queen for something
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>>171645256
i hope its fake, we dont need even more anti aggro
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>>171645086
I have an urge of wasting my vials on sahaluci
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>>171645390
>even more anti aggro
fuck you aggro shitter
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>>171645398
it's still awful
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>>171645390
Let Rowen hear you scream
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>>171645430
is it really that awful?
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>>171645256
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>>171645450
i want eris to cbt me with this
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>Tfw Seraph shitter doesn't draw into any cudgels or themises
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>>171645450
>turn 4 do nothing
>messes up Seraph tutor
Not getting played
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>>171645256
I wish it was better.

Seems like a pretty shitty effect for such a cool card.
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>>171645486
>doesn't draw into any cudgels
That never happens
>>
>>171645280
>>171645382
Well, it depends on the popularity of each archetype I guess. Aggro is very popular these days, so if a player wants to climb with Aggro, he will most likely be matched with a lot of other Aggro decks.
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>>171645256
T H I C C
H
I
C
C
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>>171645390
>anti aggro
it seems like it would be better against one or two large enemies than against an army of small ones. it might be a face aggro card or something.
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>>171645486
>tfw newfags post thumbnails
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>>171645450
should cost 3pp, forest dream is 2pp for same effect but no damage
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>>171645454
no its not it autowins against control decks, and easily beat aggro if you get the combo off or just ward hella.
t. masters
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>>171645390
Playing this against aggro will just get you killed. Cudgel is already a much better anti aggro card for hags.
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>>171645256
I'm not sure if you can really justify using this over Tribunal.
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>>171645559
Why would you play this over Tribunal
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>>171645256
An anti-Anomaly/Bahamut/Ouroboros tech?
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>>171645570
>easily beats aggro
>just got my dick punched in by aggro sword 6 times in a row
yea it's great XDDDD
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NINE DAYS
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>>171645559
t2
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>>171645618
i don't know why i'd play this at all.
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>>171645627
post your deck ill help you out.
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>>171645627
Did you just mislabel my deck? The correct term is Midrange
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>>171645450
Stop giving Haven bad cards cygames

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>When you draw like GARBAGE and you can't combo ANYTHING to make that Crystalia Tia evolve because FUCKING D SHIFT DOESN'T PUT A GOD DAMN THING TO SYLVAN JUSTICE AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER 2 DROP IN HAND EXCEPT THE ONE THAT ENHANCES FUCKING AUTOMATICALLY

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>171645610
>using this over Tribunal
>this over Tribunal
It's stronger than Tribunal against little shits or sets up enemy minions for more Themis value. I suspect haven will get card that can increase countdown of amulets to make it even better
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>>171645529
It does if you believe
>>171645561
If don't ever recall owing you a larger thumbnail anon
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>>171645618
>>171645776
Can be useful against strong last words like Mordecai, white wolf or Leonidas
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>>171645672
nah it's fine.
>>171645809
here, I don't mind if you save it mr thumbnail
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>>171645949
>Mordecai, white wolf or Leonidas
>vs Haven
Just Banish bro
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>>171645776
Death Sentence is a better value.
Aggro will just shit more weenies who'd die sooner or later.

At best it slows creatures with 3 defense and higher, but why waste a card slot if you can just Acolyte's Light it anyway?
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>>171645994
>mordecai 5 hp, wolf 4 hp
>iron maden hits for 2
>they are in banish range
hmmmmmm
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>>171645256
>Haven steals Forest "can't attack" mechanic
Lmao
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>haven missions for dailies
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>>171645994
banish only works if you can get their health to 3 or less bro
>inb4 acolytes light or whatever it's called
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>>171645994
It's hard to banish when the target has more than 3 health. This new card can help bring those annoying cards in range of BLACKED while preventing them from doing their thing (ie. wolf dying/mordecai attacking).
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>>171646028
>end of your turn
hmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>171645961
I'll take it, but only out of spite
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>>171646063
>can't attack next turn
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>171646063
>it can't attack
>you banish next turn
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>171646063
really makes you think doesn't it retard
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>>171646114
>>171646063
>>171646102

YUMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>171646183
>not replying in order
ONE JOB GODDAMNIT ANON
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>haven gets another tribunal at same PP

For what purpose?
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>>171645610
It might be better on curve against aggro going first since you can hit one thing in one turn and then the next you use Lion Spirit or Cudgel to try and clear the board. I'd wanna try it out in Seraph decks over Tribunal honestly to see how it works out.
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>>171645958
YOUR WIFE IS A SLUT WHO TAKES UP TOO MUCH SPACE
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>>171646276
Because Haven needs to shit on aggro harder than it already does.
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been away for almost two months, what's the gobu nerf about? I see loli bats has been hit hard and mid sword is back on top, and holy fuck why is dimension shift in top tier again jesus christ who did this
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Do all Albert cucks use Bahamut?
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>>171646325
it's a worse tribunal
Literally only usable in take 2
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>>171646347
no
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>>171646341
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0073
Gobu/Piercing Rune nerf, official post
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>>171646341

>aggro blood got hit hard

Not really
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>>171646341
lmao, d shift is a tier 3 memedeck everyone knows this aside from control cucks. Unless you wanna argue that a 45% win rate deck is tier 1
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>>171646379
I keep seeing the same face sword shitters use it as a "last ditch attempt" to save themselves and I almost always clear it.
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>tfw you Odin two Leonidas followers

I'm sorry fellow Leo-bro.
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>>171646347
>elana using le random bahamut
>lose

Nice game shadowbab
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85707
one concede please
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The fairest of them all.
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>>171646378
Not always.

Let say you are haven and its 5pp and you don't have lion or cuckel
There is a floral fencer 4/5, 2/2, 1/1 on the board.

Iron maiden would be better in this case since if it hits the 2/2 it dies, and if it hits floral fencer it can't attack. More likely to recover since it has 2 cooldown.
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>>171646378
unlike tribunal it works every turn
it is a better tribunal when dropped on curve
it is a crazy strong stalling card, the next expansion already makes me want to quit this shitty game, i dont want to play stallverse
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>>171645256
>>171646595
you are very late nip anon
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>>171646578
thank you
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>>171646637
t. swordcuck
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>>171646316
I will fight you
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H-HEAR!
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>>171646780
>not S++
Shitty rating by mongoloids.
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Sup /svg/ how do you fight MM anxiety for Arena run?
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77738
No concede.
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>>171646780
>S
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What tier is Dragon gonna be in the new expansion?
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>>171646805
Just accept that Arena is extra dependent on RNG and be ready to retire if you get a bad draft
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>>171646849
Tier ;_;
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>>171646849
t0
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>>171646849
t kill yourself
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>>171646780
Rowen is so desperate he's resorted to bribing these sites.
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>tfw playing sen no kiseki 2 while grinding shadowverse
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>>171646849
Egg tier
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>>171646820
Thanks Vampy!
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>everyone starting to jump on the GBF train

i-is it really that fun?
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>>171646780
Tier 0
Ouroboros Phoenix Roost will rule the meta
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>>171646919
>>171646826
If you think Sybil is not S tier you're bad at the game and should uninstall.
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>>171646982
it's mindless grinding garbage
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Shadow's worst matchup is Dirt Rune. Anyone who says it's Haven is a dirty liar.
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I am utterly speechless, i thought you guys said albert was the problem?
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dshifters really are sociopaths
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>>171646780
it'd be nice if our dergon had the same affect as mordecai or a dragon that steals lastword
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>>171647021
but anon dirt rune players are sub-human and therefore easy to beat
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>>171647021
Dirt doesn't have a wincon.
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Where is my idolshit collab?
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>>171647049
Gimme your deck anon for analysis purposes
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>>171647049
Am I supposed to be impressed by 7 winstreaks in AA3? I can do it too.
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>>171647050
I'm sorry anon but

>here come some real magic ~~~
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>>171646780
tell me how sibyl is S?

If you ramp and play it on curve, it does nothing.
If you don't ramp it gives you 1 empty orb and doesn't heal til next turn.
If you ramp and play it off curve when you have overflow you go from 7pp --> 9pp which is basically shit since you can't ramp anymore after that.

Beside heal bait, its not really good.
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>>171646991
B+ at best
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>>171647021
No Mord 4 U.
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>>171647197
Heal is at the end of turn, So you can ramp to overflow with it and get the heal.
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>>171646991
>two abilities, both conditional
basically 5 mana do nothing if you ramp and play on curve
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>>171647197
>why do people even run unica, she never actually lives to heal
i wonder anon
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>>171647197
Aren't you just supposed to play it on turn 5 after ramping at least once on the previous turns, giving you 7 pp on that same turn you play her, making her heal?
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>>171647185
Not very bright are you? Well fuck it I'm calling it a day.
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Is something happening to Eris in the story?

She's turning dark as fuck with the new incoming cards.
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>>171647306
>luna got fucked by the devs and got shit cards
>also got fucked by the burglar
Everything makes sense now.
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>>171647306
>religious cults
>not dark as fuck

She was always like that.
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>>171647197
You know, instead of baiting a response and just asking properly, you'd get answers anyway.

Your comment is the type of comment where it's obvious you said shit just so people will give you an in-depth answer.
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>>171647303
>being this mad

I expect nothing from Shadowshitter.
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Why Dickshifters always do this when losing?
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>Waiting the entire game for Nature's Guidance the whole god damn game turn after turn after turn after turn through Lucifers and Themis and Guardian Suns and Sahaquials and so much so much bullshit I even started first so fuck me so much bullshit

>Finally use my last Roach just to push for lethal because they just played Satan and I knew my window was small

>Topdeck Nature's Guidance immediately after it dies
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>>171647306
>new incoming cards.
Skullfane existed since classic cards and you can't get any more dark than that. Bishop shows duality of religion, both good religion and dark cults, Eris is okay, while her shadow is not
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>>171647176
Eh nothing special, I'm sure some aggro shadow mains have an optimal build somewhere.
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>>171647448
You deserve it roachshitter.
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>>171647452
Skullfane is neutral. Nihilism isn't evil.

Eidolon of Madness is the only evil card in Havencraft.
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>>171647464
My version with special guest khaiza, doing well in aa3
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>>171647596
What about dark offering?
What about the amulet that is about sacrificing girls to make a dragon?
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Is it stupid to have no 1pp followers in a cblood deck?
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need a win for daily and achievement

please don't concede, just pass

70600
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Why does Seraph always get the nut draws?
>turn 1 Sacred plea
>turn 2 banish
>turn 3 banish + sacred plea
>turn 4 sledgehammer + sacred plea
>turn 5 Ancient Lion
>turn 6 themes
>turn 7 themes
>turn 8 Seraph
>turn flip seraph for the instant win

The game needs more amulet banishment besides a fucking legendary. No, I won't play runecraft.
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>>171647693
Most control decks skip 1s, to get them consistently in an aggro deck you have to run like 6 so it's not worth it at all if you're not going to get them regularly.
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>>171647693
Nah, your don't need T1 plays in cblood and cblood is one of the decks that don't really care about do nothing turns, because of their life gains while removing stuff at same time.
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>>171647693
The only 1 cost follower that would be any useful is Wraith and that's only because he would put you closer to vengeance. Unica is the best low cost follower for control. It'd be better to just put in other stuff instead of 1 cost followers.
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>>171647717

Play Execution :^)
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>>171647717
>this game needs more amulet banishment

Yeah, and then screw over every other class/deck trying to incorporate some amulets. Tech in Odin and get over it.
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based yurius making swordshitter do 7 damage to themselves
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>>171647568
fuck you hag
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>>171647789
C'mon dude, your meme game must be better than this.
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>>171647464
>>171647640
Thanks anons
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>>171647816
This.

There is a reason why even in the 3rd expac there is not much amulet banishment stuff.
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>>171647596
>Eidolon of Madness is the only evil card in Havencraft.
What about the "I dwell within you" bitch, she's made of malice.

What about the 2 pp banish card.

What about all the cards with "Dark" in the name there's like fifty in Haven.
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>>171647717
What this game needs is a card that would add countdown to a target amulet (enemy or your own)
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Remove sword from T2
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>>171647816
>>171647914
You're both retarded, literally the only class that benefits from the lack of amulet banishment is Haven because they're the ones with most of the last word amulets.

Nearly every other amulet in the game already has removal set for it, but they all "destroy" amulets so they're completely flaccid against Haven unless you're taking out their Guardian Sun. But for every other class, PLENTY of options already exist, some you might not have even heard of (Carnivorous Flower and Goetha Mage lol).
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>>171647942
> "I dwell within you"

worms?
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best concede ever
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>>171647274
>Beside heal bait, its not really good.

Good luck ramping without rehab. Rehab is good, this card doesn't save your ass til overflow or turn 5 which ever comes first.

>>171647284
In a perfect ramp scenario

egg Turn 1 1pp
oracle Turn 2 2-->4pp
rehab Turn 3 4pp (unless you want double oracle but that just leave you with 1 or 2 cards)
fervor/other Turn 4 5pp without fervor/5-->7pp with fervor
sibyl Turn 5 6pp without fervor/6-->8pp with sibyl
??? Turn 6 9pp

The problem here is that around turn 6 is where all the removal and strong control deck comes into play making ouroboros/saha kind of weak. You might have to deal with board flood like blood serpent, daria, forest storm cards, sword roland, shadow midrange zombie flood. Even with 9pp at turn 6 you can't really utilize it any more and you can't ramp any further. So each turn you fail to kill them, less helpful the ramp becomes since it can't go over the max 10pp.

Maybe the last gold card is good?
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>>171647942
There's also Death Sentence, Forbidden Ritual, and the guy that kills any follower that attacks. The class was pretty much made with holy and darkness in mind as the theme from the start.
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>>171648016
>this one specific class needs more counters

Stop. That's like asking for spell floodgates because you hate Rune. Odin was made specifically for Seraph. If that card is giving your deck trouble, tech him in. Or, let me guess, you just want a bunch of on-curve followers with fanfare that banish amulets instead.
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>>171647441
They are literal pieces of shit. Their solitaire didn't work so they throw a tantrum.
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>>171646780
dragoncucks will still cry

>b-but ALBERT!!!
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>>171648489
>Odin was made specifically for Seraph

And nothing was made for dshit.
Really enhances my sky knight.
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>>171648009
Remove shadow too
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>>171648572
people that play the game turns 1-8 counter d shift
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>>171648572
Dshift NEEDS a neutral card that can counter it.

On that, we can agree.
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>>171648685
>45% winrate deck NEEDS to be countered
my little europoor cant be this retarded!
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>>171647717
>queue into Haven as Nep
>scripture, tribunal, ALS, execution, scripture, themis, execution
I literally couldn't keep anything on the board to attack ever, it was disgusting.
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daily reminder to rope dshift player every turn
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What did he mean by this?
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Alright guys, I need help with a concede quest please

14911
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>>171648780
he took pity on you dragoncuck
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>>171648597
Might as well just remove Arena altogether.
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>>171645256
whats the point of this card

i think cygames have no idea what they want to do with haven this expansion
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>>171648489
>Stop.
No! Every other class has counters! Follower banishes and transformations are plentiful across classes and they all work on Shadow. Sword relies entirely on followers so all the classes with good follower removal is great on them. Out of hand storm damage? Ward and heal up. There are some SPECIFIC scenarios where the normal counter won't work- warding up against Forest won't help if they have a Wolfbolt- but that's a specific scenario within a class, not THE ENTIRE CLASS.

Countdown amulets make up A GIANT PART of Haven's identity and you can't do anything about any of them, let alone Seraph.
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>>171648846
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>>171648335
>egg
What's egg?
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>>171648335
>T6 removal making ouroboros weak
That dude can be taken down by Unica or a 2PP removal. As long as it's not banish it doesnt matter because he is there mostly for 3dmg and 3 heal along with removal bait. And if you do not kill him he will kill you.

Sibil is a ramp heal with a decent body for it's cost. It's a great tempo card
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>>171648685
Amen.
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>>171648864
I can get behind that
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>>171648930
how stupid can one person be?
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>>171648780
He probably had a call or needed to go somewhere.
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>>171648973
I wasn't in the thread or even paying attention to the new cards, I only know the new legendaries.
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>>171649003
Eggs 1pp amulet, if overflow active for you destroy this amulet, restore 2hp and draw a card
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>>171648973
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>>171648921
>Countdown amulets make up A GIANT PART of Haven's identity

Maybe that's how Haven is supposed to work, but for now the only countdowns that non-storm Haven runs is Seraph and Plea (with MAYBE the occasional Tribunal). We don't need more amulet removal. If I recall correctly, Haven is the least-played class right now, right next to Dragon. The deck doesn't need class-specific counters.
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>>171648835
A-anyone?
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>>171649074
Thanks.
That's actually pretty good for a turn 1 play.
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>>171649131
The least played class right now is actually Forest.
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>>171649196
>unpopular opinion detected

Better watch your back, anon.
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>>171649131
>but for now the only countdowns that non-storm Haven runs is Seraph and Plea (with MAYBE the occasional Tribunal)
They DEFINITELY have Tribunal AND Beastcall Aria because why they fuck would they pass up that much value. Downplaying this shit is a bad way to defend it.
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>>171649175
>>171648835

Thanks a bunch, Master!
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Where is my Fenrir cygames
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>>171649196
It doesn't heal and draw a card every turn until Overflow.
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>>171647596
>Nihilism isn't evil
Dunno about legit Nihilism but the one Skullfane is going on about definitely is evil. Look at the dude, he's a giant skeleton breaking out of a church. A simbol of death decay and despair emerging from a beacon of hope and life> Telling those to abandon the things they held on and accept whatever shit he's trying to sell them
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>>171649250
W-what?

>>171649331
I know, it's still good enough to have T1 since you tend to pass anyway.
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>>171637408
>Go first
>t1 pass
>t2 Unica
>t3 Blitz & Clear
>t4 Jeno & Clear
>t5 Amelia + Evo + Keep 0Gelt
>t6 0Gelt + Cyclone Blade
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>>171649250
The truth is, probably most of dragon decks will run 3 of these in the new meta. It's just fun to make fun of the eggs.
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>>171649364
Okay, but how is it better than Ivory Dragon.
>>
After reading about the new cards in ToG I have no idea how forest will survive in the new meta, as if it isnt bad enough in RoB. Sword will get Liza, even faster AND Roland cockblocks roaches and bolts. Dirt Rune gets spell immune Hulk. Blood gets t6 5/5 x5. Shadow gets new lego that makes Death breathe even stronger. Dragon gets more ramp cards and more heal. Haven well not that strong for other crafts but for forest, Dark Jeanne is deadly since forest is vulnerable to tempo play.

Cygames please delete forest already.
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>>171649364
>>171649396
Oh, I agree completely.

The only thing that disappoints me is that I thought it would also give you 1 play point when it popped as well. Dame shame it doesn't.
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>>171649329
>>/gbfg/
>/u/
Fuck off sinner or get bit by Fenrir pals/sibling
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>>171649416
It heals you? And gives you a card even if you played it outside of overflow. You play it whenever you got a spare 1PP and get the effect sooner or later.
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>>171649432
>Dark Jeanne is deadly since forest is vulnerable to tempo play.

Not like anyone will actually run Dork Jeanne.
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>>171649416
I like saving Ivory dragon for overflow since you tend to need the extra card. Depends on the match up and opening hand though.
Also you can play it anytime since it will only pop on Overflow, so when you have an excess 1 PP with that card in your hand, just play it.
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Why isnt Yuel any good
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>>171649432
They got memenomaly, unga warden and heal queen.
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>>171649480
Not my fault Cerb is depicted as a rapist everywhere
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>>171649537
Get her to level 100 first.
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>>171649491
I actually think it's best played on turn 3 (apart from the obvious turn 1 play).

On turn 3, you often have 4pp from Oracle, but don't want to play a 4pp card just yet since Evolution isn't available. This lets you play cards like Imprisoned Dragon or Aiela without wasting that last point.
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>>171649589
Like forest doesnt have enough heal. It is already overheal most of the time, but then next turn your opponent plays more followers and hits your face for 10 damage.
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>>171649590
>fanart
First mistake, sinner-kun. You should know of /u/ and their tricks
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>>171649747
Cerb was bullied by her puppets to begin with right? So she is actually shy at heart before her development kicked in
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>>171649634
This so much
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Turn 6 CocoMimiHowl makes me glad that Shadow was literally unplayable back in DE
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>>171646385
>that dick
Shit. Only works against decks which bricked hard and only unless you are not going first and run dry out of cards on the turn 4.
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>when you're on a winstreak against swordcucks only
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>>171649891
Aggro Shadow was still good in DE.

It just wasn't as good as it is now, and since control got murder death killed by Haven and Sword/Storm Haven had very potent midrange game, you didn't hear too much about it here.
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>>171649775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_HihXJlC9c

Well they sure were hard to handle for young Cerb

>never played through this myself and no GT to bail me out
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>>171650069
Isn't that the top Master ladder player's deck?

>Only works against decks which bricked hard
What specifically makes you say that?
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haven't played since like november and missed the new expansion

Should I keep buying core packs if I'm still missing stuff or did the new expansion wind up overshadowing a lot of stuff?

Is Elana still good cause that waas the best deck I had
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>>171650069

I don't know, son, because someone in top 2 master ladders with that. Guess it's skill that matters, eh?
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Guys i really don't get it how will Ginger and Dark Jeanne work? I mean Ginger just get fucked by Bahumut and themis while Dark Jeane doesn't seem very viable. Then on another hand maybe i'm not thinking too much. What are your opinions?
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>>171650329
Dark Jeanne is pure ass, and I have no idea why she exists.

Ginger is like a balanced version of Daria, and will be great for some meme decks using high-level cards. Neither card (as of yet) does anything to further any current decks in their respective archetypes.
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>>171650329
DJ is removal, a haven 1/3 can trade with a 5 hp.
Ginger is literally an arena card. Just like Anomaly.
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>>171650174
I don't know what's happening on the top Master's ladder, but in AA3 this deck will work only if the opponent stales 1-3 turns or didn't draw anything capable to clear board or heal himself.
I am Heaven player and games against aggro Blood usually easy walk for me, unless I bricked.
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>thinking you'll even reach overflow for the eggs to take effect
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>>171650647
DELETE
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>>171650329
ginger is for reina memes. just play 3 lucifers and reina them for 12 burst :^)
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>>171650647
Ramp Dragon always reaching overflow, but what matters is how much hp have left by the moment. And the egg will help there a lot.
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>>171650595
By that logic all aggro decks are awful even though top ranked players show otherwise.
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>>171650718
Damn that monastic holy water really saves you from Albert and imp lancer
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Is it normal for my cblood decks to consistently get nutted on by havencraft?
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>>171650849
egg with rahab, Sibyl will safe you, that's 9+ hp
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>>171650832
Aggro decks working good only against decks which has nothing to fully fill their pp orbs on turns 1-4. I am not saying it's shit, but it's quite a narrow niche. Any proper deck an easily outplay any aggro (maybe except aggro shadow because they can snowball dying thanks to reaper) if it has something to play during it's early rounds.
Basically aggro can surely rape only Dragon, since it have to ramp on the early rounds and has nothing to drop early. It's ridiculuous how many times I have seen how Vampy concedes after I drop Fairy Beast t6, healing 6-8 hp in one go.
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>>171650227
>Is Elana still good

I wish, anon, I wish.
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>>171650970
CONTRUCT ADDITIONAL ODINS.
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http://s.animeanime.jp/article/2017/03/12/32922.html
Translate it shadowbabs, Cygames will announce a big new project in four days.
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>>171650970
Havencraft can shut down even insanely expensive ramp dragon under the Phoenix Roost, and you got just only cblood...
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>Only 1 card revealed today
>It's crap
I guess filler is really the only thing left.
inb4 hurr muh khawy, khawy was announced pretty early on, all the RoB card that were announced the week before release were filler.
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>>171636724
was sv a lewd game
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>>171651193
It's the horse girl thing.
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>>171651193
>horse racing but with anime girls as the horses
you what
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I'm coming guys!
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>>171651153
>drop busted healing card turn 6
>when aggro players are out of stuff and trying to close out the game
>wow aggro sure is ez to beat
Gee I wonder why
It's almost like healing to full health counters a deck that wastes its cards burning you
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>>171651159
>CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS.
AHHHHHHHH THE MEMORIES ARE FLOODING IN
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Guys, I'm starting to think that there will be no Mars in this expansion...
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>>171651232
sahaluci rapes havencraft lmao
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>>171650227
You get standard packs from logins, arena, dailies etc. Better use cash on expansions.
Elana might come back with this new expansion since heaven got some good things for it. Might want to save up cash and use it on ToG packs once it comes out at the end of this month.
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>>171651526
It depends if they draw their Odins, if not I got bad news for you.
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Fug
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out of 8 ranked games 5 were against haven

fuck that cancer class, really
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>>171651232
>meme roost
Congrats for winning against a meme deck.
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>>171651362
I can get behind that
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Dark Jeanna creates lethals from meager boards
I would not discount her
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>>171651362
Just like Kancolle, mate.
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>>171651760
She also kills her own board
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>>171651760
>she kills Falcons

Piece of shit card.
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>>171651362
would you like to ride dem horses?

collaboration with shadowverse when
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>>171651362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYrVKLBhitE
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>>171651606
just mull for odin and ramp. You can actually play really greedy in this matchup, so safe draconic fervors that gives ramp and 2 extra cards.The majority of the time you can rush out a satan before they can put seraph on the board safely because i was evolving my lucfiers and putting out huge body wards/ I've never lost against a seraph before and only have had to odin a couple times. Storm haven on a strong curve is probably the scariest deck if you dont draw sahaluci. elena and g sun is lmao.
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>>171651893
any bread loving horses?
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>>171651893
>0:25
Is that Jeanne
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>le dark jeanne is bad meme
this card will be the face of the expansion similar to how to how daria was. This card is a turn 6-7 wincon that will require a themis or salamander. The game is completely over next turn. Storm haven and elena will dominate again.
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>>171651971
it's her horse :^)
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>>171652080
What kind of deck would she even be a wincon for? Meme Haven?
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>>171651362
>>171651893
so this is actually getting mad? I remember seeing this like a year ago

Honestly it kinda seems like they threw a dart at the wall for what cute girl sports anime they could do and settled on horseracing
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>>171652156
Meme heal/storm haven could be a thing.
>>171652302
Should be shown in CyGames's booth. Maybe we'll even see Manaria friends there, who knows.
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>>171652080
read the card. The game will be over next turn. For you

as you just spent a turn and gave your opponent's entire board +2 attack
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>>171652302
All this time they only got music and audio drama tracks
Also have a uma musume radio
I'm glad there is finally more
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>>171652156
>birds pop
>drop Jeanne
>gain damage
>hit face
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>>171652391
2 Damage clears a lots of things
It's why Sala Breath is so good
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>>171652451
Just use Gabriel or General for that.
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>>171651362
This trend is getting stupid.
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>>171652302
could be worse

bullfight with anime girls when
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>>171652156
inb4 Aggro Haven
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>>171652483
it's not even just 2 damage, storm can just trade off their birds and clear the opponents boards while still keeping theirs and buffing what they have left.

it's an alternative to themis/lion spirit and if you have board then you can efficiently trade off your weak followers while clearing their board and having followers like moon bun, tigers, and cuckgel get more attack.
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>>171652451
>birds pop
>drop Jeanne
>kill birds unless it's the 3/4 one
Storm doesn't need/want this card at all.
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>>171652662
well there's already the anime where they fight by exclusively slamming their asses and tits into each other
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Started playing yesterday, any good Dragon seem pretty cool, any good deck?
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/svg/ discussing about Dark Jakson

Remind me again why do we havencraft need this card again?
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>>171652685
Don't forget; It also buffs the opponents followers if it they survive the MASSIVE 2 damage.
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>>171651193
>>171651893
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>>171652662
>>171652662
Why Vampy is pirate??
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>trying to beat chapter 11 forestcraft with the default deck
literally impossible
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>>171652783
On turn 5, 2 damage AoE is fucking massive.
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>>171652769
Aggro Havencraft with Kelana
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>>171652846
VAMPIRATES

it's genius
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>>171652876
From chapter 7 onward, you're supposed to put together a deck to beat the story. That's what the devs intended.
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>>171652769
sometimes you want to lion spirit but you don't want to waste an evolve.
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>>171652391
What will clear on storm haven
>2-1 storm that already got the majority of their value
>a shitty 2 drop you MIGHT have on the board
The rest of storm haven followers are tanky enough to easily survive the 2 damage


Now what will we get in return? The average storm haven board at turn 6-7 is like this

>big falcon (going to be a 3/4 or 5/6)
>ancient lion spirit or cudgel (4/5 or 4/3 most of the time)
>Holyflame tiger (4-4)
>Garuda (4-4)
Now you summon dark jeanne, who is a 6/6 and evolve her to fuck up ANY board so now an 8/5
Here is the board you have on storm haven
>5/2
>6/3
>6/3
>6/2
>6/6
this is if NOBODY evolved lmao

You can also use this to buff your bird that just spawned in and if you evolve the bird that is a fucking 7 damage to the face on turn 5

I'm gonna laugh at people vialing the ones they get in the thread, just like they did with neph early.
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Need a concede

75996
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>>171653040
>turn 5

It's a 6 drop.
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Just got bursted down to 6 hp on turn 5 by "control" sword while playing aggro shadow.
This is going to stop being a thing next expac right?
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>>171652898
Valhalla Komando can do better without risking 2/1 pheonix

>>171652982

At the cost of our minion on board and risking opponent getting buff too?

Tough choice
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>>171653097
yeah whoops ignore the rest of the post where i talk about it on turn 6 and 7
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>>171653115
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>>171653129
why are you living in a world where you're only going face and not taking some value trades with your how hp followers?
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>>171653115
>"Control" Sword.
There's no such deck. Sword has exactly 2 decks, Face Sword and Slightly-less-face Sword.
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>>171652846
yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum!
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How do we make Ginger viable?
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>>171652846
'cause a pirate is free
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>>171651193
hell yeah!
I've been waiting for this for a full year now!
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>>171653182
theres a lot of b rank aggro retards that post post in this thread based on what i observed while giving and receiving concedes in private matches.
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>>171653040
You're too optimistic, 4 followers on the field and your opponent didn't do anything to them? You would've won even without Dark Jeanne.

At most you will have 2 follower from last turn, maybe 1-2 more after an amulet is popped, and they either can't attack (Tigers) or die (smol Falcons), the only storm that will survive is the big Falcons.

Wasn't the Neph one is because the card is bugged?
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>>171653090
Someone please, i actually need 2 concedes.
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>>171653115
Stop lying in the internet. How do you know it's control sword at turn 5? Also, Unica is a tech in Midrangesword.
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>>171652834
Fuck you can't wait for the collab
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>>171653324
>4 followers on the field and your opponent didnt do anything to them?
Spotted the person whos never played storm haven or a tempo deck in his life. These followers are unloaded all on the same turn and you have so much board clear like cudget or lion spirit or the 2/1 storm follower and tiger evolve. And no, not everyone has a themis on turn 6 aggro nigger
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>>171653382
Cyclone blade is only control right?
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>>171653182
Aggro player goal is to hit face as much as possible before running out of cards.

Not controlling the board.

This card serve as board clear and its a bane for aggro type deck.
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You have 10 (TEN) seconds to defend this.
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>>171653505
Storm is midrange
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What does svg think of this spicy new satan haven deck?
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>>171653537
I did screamed
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>>171653537
>it's a silver
>haven actually got good shit
>classes like forest and rune pretty much got nothing
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Nobleman of Bones

3pp
1/1
Silver follower

Give all other followers last word : Summon a skeleton.
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>>171653537
It's a worse tribunal, Haven really got the short end of the stick this next expansion and current.
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>>171653382
Thats a good point considering theres literally no difference except you might play a ward on t2 instead of a oathless/fervid soldier
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>>171653618
Spooky
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>>171653550
looks very similar to the satan decks from vanilla
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>>171653465
>Spotted the person whos never played storm haven or a tempo deck in his life. These followers are unloaded all on the same turn and you have so much board clear like cudget or lion spirit or the 2/1 storm follower and tiger evolve. And no, not everyone has a themis on turn 6 aggro nigger
And you will always able to time them to pop at the same time? And you will always have Cudgel or Lion Spirit at turn 4/5? And your opponent will just let you do all that?
Stop being delusional already, rank B shitter.
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>>171653618
Aww yis
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>>171653618
post the rest or source?
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>>171653618
A T O M E M E
T
O
M
E
M
E
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>>171653382
>Amelia
>Aurelia
>Blitz
>Ninja Arts
>Monika
>Albert to trade
>Cyclone blade
>No 1 drop
>Healing angel
All point to it being control
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>>171653618
Forgot to mention not sure if it's fanfare or as long as on board.
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>>171653642

Is Sword kinda like Hearthstone Shaman where almost all archetypes play the same explosive opener and you have no idea if it's aggro, control or memes until turn 6 or so?
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>>171653753
If you die to control sword by turn 6, sounds like you did fucking nothing to contest the board
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>>171653668
>you will always have cudgel or lion spirit on turn 4 or 5
again, can you please stop talking about archetypes and crafts you dont know about? Sacred plea is gives you a fuck ton of cards, and you keep cudgel in your hand if 2nd and lion spirit if first in most matchups. Last (You) 4 (You) shitposter.
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>>171653772
How to tell it's midrange: Turn 1 quickblader or vanguard
Turn 2 Maid Leader

How to tell it's control: skip the first turn
Turn 2 unica or veteran lancer
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>>171653815
no shit
>>171653115
he was playing aggro
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>>171653772
Nah, you'll know what they'll play pretty soon. Shaman is closer to forest
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Devil "something"
Bronze
Spell
Forestcraft
3PP

3 Damage to one follower.
If you played two or more cards during this turn, 2 damage to opponent leader.
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>>171653668
>>171653823
>Sacred plea is gives you a fuck ton of cards, and you keep cudgel in your hand if 2nd and lion spirit if first in most matchups
Wow so you always got Plea on turn 1 huh? And you will always open Cudgel or Lion huh?
Stop being delusional you shitter.
It is you who have never played the deck, all you said are theories in the best condition, if you have played the deck you will know that having 4 followers intact on turn 6 rarely happens.
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>>171653909
>still holding out for decent bronze
>get another elemental lance
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>>171653618
YES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2rwxs1gH9w
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>>171653874
>he was playing aggro
We don't know
I killed Dragon on turn 6 as control because they thought I'd kill their Aiela and that Fervor on turn 5 was a smart idea.
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>>171653618
YES
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>>171653618
SKELETON TIME
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>>171653909
>3pp very situational piercing rune

Why? Should be 2pp.
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>>171654029
>doesn't require evolve
No it shouldn't. You're not playing magician class.
>>
GIVE ME MORE CARDS
MORE
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>>171654029
2pp makes it a card you combo with, 3pp makes it a card you combo for.

Basically it's a roach tax.
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>>171654029
>summoning 2 faeries is very situational
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>>171653537
It's shit.

Make it cost 2pp and MAYBE, maybe it would be used. Just a garbage card with a below-average effect.
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>>171653618
Where are the rest?
>>
Well, I'm done with my missions for today.

By the time the expansion hits, I'll have 10000 rupies for both of my accounts to spend on packs.
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>>171653618
Will trade him for the new Haven silver
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>>171653618
Spooky.
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>>171654182
>Make it cost 2pp and MAYBE
Everyone would use it anyway. You're not getting better piercing rune, expecially since it was nerfed recently.
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>>171653618
I AM CUM
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>>171653618
What a worthless effect

It'd only be useful if your opponent lets you flood your board
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>have this evolved and other 3 followers
>atomeme cost 0
>drop him
>his fanfare doesn't trigger and he doesn't kill your board
ummm, shadowbabs?
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>>171654287
>Everyone would use it anyway

No one going to use that shit. It's 3pp deal 3 damage to enemy follower and the combo effect is not that strong to justify running overcosted card like that.
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>>171653909
Oh look at that, forest steals yet another card
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>>171653618
So this is the third Shadow legendary. Aggro and Midrange Shadow WILL rule the world.
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>>171654429
You stole a better Liza so shut up.
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>>171654408
yea after turn 4/5

good job doing that when it's fucking worthless already
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Ivy Thorn : Forestcraft 3pp bronze spell Deal 3 damage to an enemy follower. If you played 2 or more cards during this turn, deal 2 damage to the enemy leader as well.
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>>171654408
welcome to like 2 weeks ago
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>>171654408

And then get Themis'd next turn
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So there were only 2 cards or what?
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>>171653618
10/10 I'm already spooked
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>>171654551
Themis is now banned
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>>171654493
>turn 4/5
>kill atomeme and i keep my whole board with elta
>kill elta and dies nexp turn
Sounds like a plan.
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"Banner of the Luminous Knights"
Silver
Amulet
Royal
3PP

Every time a commander / follower comes out to the board, give it +1/+1
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>>171653618
god damnn why does shadow keep getting the card aggro is going to be bitch to deal with

also say theres already follower with last word does this overides its effect or what
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>forestards get good cards
>call them all shit
>woooow we got nothing this expansion literally worse than dragon
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>>171654673
nice trolling
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>>171654673
Wait, what?
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>>171654673
this makes no sense
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>>171654628
>Implying you won't get themis to the face
>Implying they won't have a board to trade with
Good luck pulling it off against anyone
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>>171654673

Turn 5 6 attack Albert. For fuck's sake.
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>>171654408
Wouldn't this be a good card for ginger?
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>>171654706
? I'm not joking though. You can go to the livedoor site to check it.
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>>171654673
>albert banner

just fucking kill me now cygames
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Mordecai x Urd is my OTP
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>>171654706
It's real.
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>>171654493
>0 cost 8/8 is too slow
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>>171654628
>whole board of shit followers
>implying opponent doesn't have their own board to fuck up yours
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>>171654673
Fuck you
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>>171654673
>powercreeped banner
Uhh, shadowbabs?
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>>171654673
3PP AMULET REMOVAL WHEN
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>>171654673
>powercreeped banner

just fuck off cygames holy shit fuck sword so much
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>>171654742
>9pp 4/4
>fanfare: do nothing
yeah, totally good
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>>171654749
The age of Commandercraft has come.
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>>171654673
>6/8 albert on turn 5
it's everything I wanted, it's not even a commander so it won't screw with your maid pulls

thanks cygames
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>>171654673
>Up to 16 damage Albert
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>>171654807
it looks as a reversed banner, banner buffs officers, this stuff buffs commanders
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>>171653537

>2 damage for 2 turns
>thinks it is quite overpowered
>checks pp

Wew at least it will be easier to banish enemies
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>>171654807
having to put down that amulet on turn 3 is a huge risk for sword
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>>171654807
>>171654818
It's okay because this new amulet doesn't have the trait "commander" nor the fanfare effect, so it's totally balanced :^)
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>>171654673
no
NO
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>>171654778
0pp do nothing.
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>>171654673
can't mentor it unless you run uriel
uriel is a 4 drop, kind of slow, and can't get buffed by this
also doesn't give centaur vanguard storm or buff minions already on board

don't know about this one
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>>171654673
That cant be right
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>ER getting that Arcane Giant on turn 6 is major tempo gain
>Sword will have a 6/8 turn 5
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>>171654673
This +support cannon = t1 deck
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>>171654841
It buffs all swordcraft followers
>>171654851
Nice meme
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>>171654673
Commandercraft IKUZO!
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>>171654673
I'm ready for the Luminous Cannon meme deck.
UTEEEE!
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>>171654673
>better than spear, banner and dragon claw
fuck sword, only banished now peace from this evil
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>>171654910
Don't forget gawain
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>>171654673
Will it activate before support cannon?
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>>171654886
It's not for Albert unga, it's for control.
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>>171654930
>Every time a commander / follower comes...
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>pet class
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>>171654930
>Nice meme

You're a fucking retard
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>>171654886
Nobody uses centaur vanguard
Buffing minions already on the board is irrelevant since modern swordcrat decks are just about shitting out storm/rush followers every turn
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>>171654930
it only buffs commanders
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>>171654884
0pp kill your board.
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>>171654986
the next expansion will be the fight of cancer control vs cancer control
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>>171654930
has to be a mistranslation it should be commanders and +1/+0 only, Jesus Christ.
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>>171654673
Banner of the Luminous Knights Rarity: Silver rare Type: Amulet Class: Royal Cost: 3 ability: Gives +1/+1 to all allied Commanders that comes into play.


It's only commanders. Small mistranslation.
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>>171655003
>Shits out Jeno next turn to clear whatever the opponent played on turn 3
Wew, what a risk!
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>>171654980
New Frontguard
6PP, 8/8, fanfare: kill something or hit face for 7 (8?)

spicy
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im uninstalling this shit game, 4pp banner was already cancerous enough and now they made a cheaper one specifically tailored for albert

bye fags enjoy your swordverse and turn 5 lethal
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>You don't even need to evolve albert if you have two amulets on board
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>>171655074
it was pretty obvious that commander/follower meant a follower with the commander trait
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>>171655061
Just what i wanted.

Now print that dshit killer, cygoys.
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So this is how Cygames buffs all the other commanders.
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Why do devs always make the most braindead classes/characters in their games be the most overpowered?

Is it to appeal to the general public of people who are shit at video games?
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>>171655134
>turn 5 lethal
>when they play an amulet do nothing turn 3
You are stupid to think this will see play in face decks, it's for control.
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>>171655074
>>171654673
I dare you to hate on Elana again while this exists, Eris had balanced amulet this is bullshit
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>>171655074

>Commander only deck
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>turn 5 otohime
>turn 5 otohime with sage commander buff already applied
>turn 5 otohime with double sage commander buff by turn 6
this might actually work
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So, who's the real pet class

Elf, Sword or Shadow?
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It only buffs commander followers and it says it's unclear whether it buffs commander followers already on the board the same way old banner does with officers.
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>>171654673
A commander deck can only play either this or Cannon, playing both would be suicide. And commanders can't flood the board like officers do so you can't put as much pressure on the board like the old Banner. Albert and this would be gay though.
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>>171654673
>16 damage albert
B-But it's okay, genesis dragon is balanced because you can ramp into it...
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>>171655134
"There can be only one"
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>>171655140
3 of this + Albert + evo + mentor = 18HP hit
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say it with me /svg/

>pet class
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>>171655181
but Shadow isn't even top tier.
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>>171655081
>5/4 Jeno
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>171655168
they already did
for sword only tho because they really needed it ;^)
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>>171655181
Yes, because they spend the most money.
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>>171655209
Elf, no doubt.
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>>171655209
Sword is the one who has never been nerfed despite always being tier 1
Really makes you think
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>>171655285
jeno is an officer, dumbass
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>>171654682
It won't override, both effects will go off.
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>>171655237
Where did you get 16 damage from?
Albert+ evolve +NuBanner =12 damage

Mentor's teaching x2?
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>>171655209
forest
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>>171655289
No i mean a good counter, and possibly neutral.
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>>171655209
Shadow got nerf before english released
Elf got nerf 3 times
Sword gets nothing

Really makes you think
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>>171655398
3 banner
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>>171655186
What control, you mean Roland sword?
Because outside of it, there can be no control with all these cards that require immediate answer, or they'll kill you next turn. Or give you a doomclock like dim shift.
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>>171655209
what are you smoking, rune should be there not shadow
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>playing sword in ranked for dailies
>keep facing other sword
>you pretty much only face mirror matches
>meta
>realise all gameplay boils down too is hoping i draw an albert
>and hoping they dont draw an albert
>edge of seat sweating every time I draw or the opponent draws

So this is what fun is...?
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>>171655398
3 banner
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>>171655442
>Shadow got nerf before english released
What nerf?
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>>171655398
>>171655464
22 damage albert
GG
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>>171655539
Cursed soldier used to be 5PP
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>>171655464
Absolutely no one will play 3 banner, you can maybe afford the tempo loss of playing one banner on turn 3 and that's it. anymore are suicidal if you can play anything better.
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>>171655532
And then you realize playing a deck with a good matchup vs sword is much more fun.
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>>171654682
Card adding LW: spam a zombie to undead king makes him spam 3 zombies instead of 2 so it all stacks.
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>>171655209
>>171655481
>Forest, Sword and Rune
>the three classes in sv channel
Mmmmm...
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>cheaper powercreeped banner

what the fuck? i thought they made albert commander specifically because it wouldnt get banner buff. and now they made a cheaper version?
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>>171655532
i played albert sword today, lost 5 games to win 4 for the dailies, hated it how haven etc cancer countered it, had to play a couple of aggro blood for easy wins afterwards
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"Black Death Mask" (?)
Silver
Amulet
Vampire
2PP
Countdown 5

Take off the damage that your leader suffers, and reduce the number of countdown as many.
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>>171655685
What the fuck is the point of that
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>>171655685
what did he mean by this
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>>171655685
post the link to the site already
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>>171655685
Nice, more cards to shit on aggro with.
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>>171655481
>rune
nerfed twice
>>171655431
>>171655323
delusional sword bbs

funny how only sword mains will come to this general and tell everyone their class is shit or fair over and over again
then yell at anyone saying otherwise
all the forest players didn't deny their success
all of the haven players bragged about it in DE
sword mains ALWAYS say their class is shit and accuse other classes of being broken/pet class

reminder that sword is the only class to have 52+% win rate in EVERY archetype in EVERY expansion and still hasn't gotten any nerf even when they breach the 55% line consistently

reminder that sword is getting all the best shit this new expac
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>>171655685
Wait, it absorbes damage or what?
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>>171655685
if it also burned the enemy leader for that damage... not an aggro card so it's a shit in my book/ seems i will have to play a slow deck the next expansion and i really hate it

also i predict that among the last neutral cards they reveal a cheap amulet removal
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>>171655739
it can absorb 5 damage?

pretty good against early aggro?
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>>171655739
>>171655745
5hp shield
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>>171655685
What does that even mean
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>>171655806
But do you want to waste a cardslot for it
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>>171655792
loses 1 cd for each point of damage absorbed yes
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>>171655806
Aggro is dead anyway when ToG hits.
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>>171655830
It basically gives you extra hp = its cooldown.
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>>171655618
>playing a deck with a good matchup vs sword is much more fun
>a deck with a good matchup vs sword
YOU MEAN ANOTHER SWORD DECK?
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>>171655685
If you try to attack the leader, for example for 2 damage, the countdown goes down from 5 to 3.

Simple really, don't know why people seem to have a hard time understanding.
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>>171655758
enjoy your 15 turn games on the ladder and the supreme rule of d-shift
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>>171655685
>2pp
>heals you for 5 damage
How is this balanced?
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>turn 1 path
>turn 2 princess vanguard
>turn 3 Banner
>turn 4 Banner
>turn 5 Alberto
>turn 6 Aurelia
>turn 7 Roland
>turn 8 Frontguard general
>turn 9 Alberto
>turn 10 Alberto
Nice game there
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>>171655872
Blood aggro is pretty consistent against sword.
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>>171655685
Black Death Mask
Rarity: Silver rare
Type: Amulet
Class: Vampire
Type: None
Cost: 2
ability:
Countdown 5

Take off the damage that your leader suffers and reduce the countdown as many as that.

※ Timing when you are activating effects (always, during your turn, during opponent turn) Because there is no description of the kind of damage (self damage, ability damage from opponent, direct damage) The treatment is unclear.
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>>171655913
>heals you for 5 damage
But it doesn't, unless you attack for 5 on the same turn it's played
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>>171655913
four damage, it will tick at least once
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>>171655872
Daria, are you dumb or what?
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>>171655925
>>turn 3 Banner
>>turn 4 Banner
you don't do this not even against midrange, one banner is enough
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>>171655913
it's not a heal, it's a kind of ward except it wards all the damage, is harder to remove and depletes with time
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>>171655685
just post the link if you can tl for shit
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>>171655925
>someone actually saved this image

why?
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>>171655685
So what happens when two of this is on board?
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>>171656054
Omelette du fromage
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>>171655767
>reminder that sword is getting all the best shit this new expac

Sword legendaries are all garbage. The other new cards are meme-tier at best

Then you look at Dragon and they're getting TWO S-tier legendaries. Two for a craft that was already pure bullshit. But yeah sword is the pet class sure.
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>>171656085
It uses them both at the same time?
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>>171656106
dragon tier 0 confirmed
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>>171656106
I just added this post to the screen shot
it's coming along quite nicely
thanks
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>>171656106
>draconic fervor with a body but no card draw
>8pp 4 defense
Who wrote this shit
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>>171656232
it doesn't count if anon is being ironic
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>>171656106
>dragon
>OP
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sword getting broken shit what else is new

if this keeps up im seriously considering quitting the game to be honest, im fine with broken stuff but blatant favoritism for three specific class over and over again while three class stay in dumpster tier forever isnt fine.
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>>171656331
i am thinking to quit the game because of the shaft they gave to aggro, i don't fucking want to play a snore fest
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>>171656331
sword will be shit in TotG
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>>171656106
This. Cygames was like LET'S GIVE DRAGON MOAR HEALING BULLSHIT SO THAT THEY CAN RAPE PPL ASS WITH BAHAMUT AT TURN 8 XD
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>cheaper albert banner

cant make this shit up
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>>171656515
>>171656515
>>171656515
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>>171655685
This + Dire bond on T5 for 2PP heal 5
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>>171656451
>10pp dies to Themis
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>>171656273
More like
>mini Lucifer on a solid turn 5 bidy if you've ramped + ramp OR ramp on fanfare on a body that is not understatted like Aurelia
>super carrot that can be played as early as turn 5 and that can trade into Khawy without giving them heals
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>>171656410
Unga sword still strong with Lecia and Albert
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>>171656592
*Aiela
*body
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>>171653537

>4 mana
>Worse tribunal
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Cant think of any other point behind the new Sword amulet than directly buffing Albert. I mean, what other Commander benefits from it? Aurelia, maybe?
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>>171656592
You have to play it on turn 6 + played a ramp card before to get full value though.
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>>171657331
Nah, you get full value by ramp once and playing her on turn 5 (6 orbs).
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>>171657479
Seems a little iffy. not bad, but playing a 5-drop on turn 6 kinda sucks unless you have something else to do.
Really wish it was just a plain "fanfare gain 1 empty PP orb"
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>>171657610
That's to get full value, you can still play her on turn 5 to get an empty orb, evolve and kill something.
She's a pretty good alternative to Fervor since it doesn't have a body.
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>>171657745
Yeah definitely.
The cards not as bad as people say but the fact that if you want to get the ramp effect you need to either not ramp alot before you play it, or if you've ramped alot you're spending 5 PP to hit 10 PP next turn and then have 4 PP left to do something else, ya'know?
The turn count restriction seems really weird since it almost punishes you for ramping before you play the card.
That said basically being a mini-lucifer is pretty alright on it's own, if a little underwhelming for something that's a legendary.
Can't say much about Ouroboros, I can definitely see the card getting out of hand really fucking fast if you've ramped hard and get him out on turn 6 or something, but at the same time if you've only ramped once or twice he seems a little underwhelming since you'll at best play him 3 times before dying to something.
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>>171657947
stop posting about classes you know nothing about shitposter. i consistently ramp at least 2 times in almost every single game before turn 5.
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