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funny how only sword mains will come to this general and tell everyone their class is shit or fair over and over again
then yell at anyone saying otherwise
all the forest players didn't deny their success
all of the haven players bragged about it in DE
sword mains ALWAYS say their class is shit and accuse other classes of being broken/pet class

reminder that sword is the only class to have 52+% win rate in EVERY archetype in EVERY expansion and still hasn't gotten any nerf even when they breach the 55% line consistently

reminder that sword is getting all the best shit this new expac

WHERE IS THE STORM COUNTER CYGAMES?

WHERE IS IT?

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>3 pet classes
>3 dumpster classes
which class is right in the middle?

>three (3) pp banner for albert

Cant make this shit up

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I'm loving these reactions.
Stay mad non-sword players.

>>171656601
Dragoncuck

>>171656636
Sword isn't even that strong, only B ranks and below whine about it.

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Play Havencraft AND Swordcraft.

>>171656636
enjoy your 60% play rate sword mirror next expansion

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Shadow is gonna have board flood for days coming ToG
>Thane
>Eachtar
>Gobu Princess+Skelly Nobleman

>>171656597
Its called a ward and a heal

>>171656601
Haven

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>>171656515
My time to shine

>>171656601
Haven>>171656693

"Nobleman of Bones"
3pp
1/1
Silver follower
Shadow
Give all other followers last word : Summon a skeleton.

"Ivy Thorn"
Forestcraft 3pp
bronze
spell
Deal 3 damage to an enemy follower. If you played 2 or more cards during this turn, deal 2 damage to the enemy leader as well.

"Banner of the Luminous Knights"
Rarity: Silver rare
Type: Amulet
Class: Royal
Cost: 3
ability: Gives +1/+1 to all allied Commanders that comes into play.

"Black Death Mask"
Rarity: Silver rare
Type: Amulet
Class: Vampire
Type: None
Cost: 2
ability:
Countdown 5
Take off the damage that your leader suffers and reduce the countdown as many as that.

sword getting broken shit what else is new

if this keeps up im seriously considering quitting the game to be honest, im fine with broken stuff but blatant favoritism for three specific pet class over and over again while three class stay in dumpster tier forever isnt fine.

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>>171656786
>6pp
LOL

>>171656693
>56% winrate

>>171656568
Always been the most braindless craft in the game since the start. I feel bad playing it when necessary for dailies.

I think we can all agree that there will be more nerfs this expansion than all previous nerfs combined.

>cheaper banner
>also works with albert

(((((((((((((^^^^: pet class right?

>Can't be damaged. Can't be targeted by spells and effects other than those that relate to attack or defense. (For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)

How does this imply that it can't die to Themis?

>>171656807
Uh, so what does the deathmask do when it pops?

>>171656867
It's really time to reconsider using this guy into my Shadow deck. There are too many amulets in new expansion.

>>171656952
nothing can affect it beside haven cards :^)

>>171656940
>>also works with albert
but doesn't work with officers

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Don't stop me now

>>171656952
>For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects
>can't be destroyed
>using spells

>>171656957
The same thing Dire Bond does when it pops. Nothing

>>171656957
Nothing.

>>171656957
Nothing, its a 5 damage shield. You're not supposed to damage yourself to pop it sooner.

>>171656978
>guy

>>171656759

i'M LOVING ALL THESE NEUTRAL HEALS WE HAVE, AND ALL THESE VIABLE WARD FOLLOWERS AS WELL!

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>>171656952
It implies that you're reading the wrong translation

>>171657079
The for example is preceded by
>Can't be targeted by spells and effects
So, when it says
>For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects
The spells and effects mentioned are targetted

That's why I don't get it

>>171657169
This is the one from gamepress

>>171657083
>>171657093
>>171657116
Oh, 'take off' means prevent. Meh.

>>171657153
we have way too many indeed

>gathering rupies for expansion
>notice by accident that there are new Elite 2 AI rewards I haven't done yet

Free 1200 rupies here I come!

>>171657207
no it's indestructible, imagine that nothing can affect it

>>171657207
This >>171657207 is the official Twitter, and the one that actually fits with the japanese text

>>171657153
>unica, healing angel, goblinmount, dingdong

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>>171656737
HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

Reminder to that the leaks are fake and gay.

>>171657270
Fuck, meant to link >>171657169

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>>171656978
I guess I don't feel so bad now then.

why do people keep bitching about sword when haven is literally getting an unremovable follower next expansion?

fucking B rank shitter i swear
>muh albert
>muh banner

just play wards

>>171657270
>>171657267
>>171657389
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Literally on the main website, this is the official, updated translation

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>seeing people with 12000g +

>Have 1335g

If i keep up the dailies i should be able to get atleast 20 packs on release + 20$ for more, i should get something I want atleast right?

>these legendarys dragon got
fucking christ, you guys dont understand how strong dragon is going to be. this general is literally fucking clueless about every single expansion.

>>171657471
>turn 9

Either we get pp cheats or aegis will stay a meme

>>171657436
I actually teched in one of her back when elana was the main cancer. It could see more play in upcoming expansion.

>>171657169
Is he holding a JO crystal?

>>171656807
Ivy Thorn
>Worse than Surefire Bullet if vanilla
>Worse than DoD when combo
Eh...

>>171657498
Yes, we know it's on the official website. It's a mistake. The official Twitter is the correct one.
Feel free to try and Themis/Bahamut an Aegis on release day and come here to whine when it doesn't work.

>>171657267
It dies to bane

>>171657523
This. Wish I had the cards to actually play dragon.

>>171657069
Hi mister shekelberg

>>171657523
>game-ai rates dragon legends as S tier
>people appearing out of nowhere saying dragon will be strong
really makes you think huh

like, really stimulates those synapses

>>171657649
How can you act this fucking elitist when literally none of know how Aegis is supposed to work, and the devs haven't come up and explained the ambiguous card text?

You dumb shitter, shut up and have an open mind.

>>171657658
no it doesn't you mongoloid

>>171657658
Did we get any official word on that? Or are we just assuming from wording that it will/will not work?

>>171657574
it looks as a better seraph though
doesn't need a ton of cd reductions and stuff, can be a wincon in elana together with that holy archer

btw dark jeanne can work in elana too

>>171657670
I feel like dragon will still suck horseweiner

>>171657670

>not hippocampus

One job.

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>>171657523
>tfw dragonfag
Prepare for a good dragondicking

>>171657756
It's called having read the japanese text.

If Aegis was immune to bane/themis it would just read "Can't be destroyed, banished, or damaged." That's all it has to read.

>>171657670
Dragon has the best mechanic in game (ramp) and got very powerful stuff (neutrals count for them too).

Why would it not be strong?

>>171656693
isnt it the most winning craft?

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Eris tier 0 next xpac

>>171657801
>wanting your craft to be overpowered
no one will believe you when you say you played it before it was good

>>171657773
Yes, in japanese only. I dont save link / image tho
Basically, unkillable / unremovable

>>171657804
Pretty sure the Cygames translation team has also read the original JP text

>>171657774
>better seraph

No it doesn't. It can be stalled by wards and it doesn't one hit kill you. It also costs more.
It will work well with Elana but it's not a Seraph-level wincon.

>>171657862
No you idiot. It NEEDS to read "unaffected by everything", because with your wording it can get Ward via Guardian Sun.

>thread is back to aegis shitflinging

can we just bitch about sword again please

>>171657905
Good lord that cudgel looks terrible

>>171657905
I want her so badly

>>171657872
>Dragon has the best mechanic in game (ramp)
spellboost is the best mechanic in the game

>>171657941
"Can't be destroyed, banished, or damaged. Immune to all spells and effects, other than those that relate to attack or defense."

Calm down, asshole.

>>171657670
>been saying dragon is already strong because of sahaluci for weeks now
>get bombarded by reddit shitposters who dont actually play the game past b rank about how dragon is terrible
>there are people in this very general that think sahaluci right now is a T2 deck
>sahaluci will beat every single deck in the meta next patch
>storm dragon will also fare the same
cant make this shit up

>>171657926
I'm sorry that you don't get it. You'll just have to see for yourself, apparently that's the only way you'll be convinced.

>>171657964
do it better fag

>>171657983
If it worked on neutrals, yes.

>>171657926
stop being an EOP's maybe and read the original card effect yourself

>>171657939
it's better than seraph level because can be put to a stronger deck

>>171658016
I dont know about sahaluci since I dont play it but face dragon is legitimately amazing right now. gryphon knight shits on sword so hard in the early game.

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>>171657608
So did I, DE was a painful time for Shadow but the few times Goetia fucked Elana made me happy.
>mfw bringing her out of retirement

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>>171657909
I'll take solace in the fact that they'll spend those hard earned vials to be a tierlist slut

>>171656568
>all the forest players didn't deny their success
Forest players are just as dumb. Just look at those
>AE is garbage and tempo loss
posts.

>>171657516
+ the free packs that you will get from cygames so yeah you are in decent shape.

>>171658028
>>171658082
Why are you degenerate fucks assuming I can read japanese? If I was a nip I'd fucking neck myself.

God damn it, it's times like this that make me wish we didn't stop after two nukes.

>>171658015
You do realize that if it is immune to all effects, and can't be damaged, printing "can't be destroyed/banished" is redundant ? Damage and effects are the only way to remove a follower.

>>171658016
yes we get it, you suck game-ai's dick, no one cares

>>171658016
>45% winrate deck
>worse winrate than storm/face dragon
ok

>>171658110
Yeah i heard face dragon is really good too, it actually might be the best for this meta. Overall sahaluci is a lot stronger against midrange and control decks though

>>171658110
face dragon is pretty meh

inb4 muh shadowlog

>>171658154
Then just fucking trust the people who can read it. It's not rocket science.

>>171658161
"Can't be destroyed, banished, damaged, or targeted by spells and effects other than those related to attack and defense."

Fixed. Stop replying to my posts already.

>>171656601
Shadow's balanced, always behind forest, sword, rune but still better than dragons, blood, haven.

>>171657328

By the time its down you are already having a 12 dmg storm albert to face
Then it hits your face for 7-9
Then your next albert hits your face for 16

Congratulations, you are most likely dead

>>171658209
Storm Ramp is worse than SahaLuci. Its winrate is significantly inflated.

is there a way to reliably tutor Odin?

>>171658089
You can put Seraph in Elana as well. In fact, it's quite a popular deck

>>171658089

No, seraph wins before this card, and if you needed this card to win you were better off playing sword lol

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>>171658116
I also used to tech in 2 of her back in the day. If only her effect wasn't so expensive.

>>171657670

Gamepress is superior to game.ai.

So many shills for game.ai, yet they always seem wrong.

Gamepress have a wider and more see-through acces to different tournament decks

>>171657939
its an alternative seraph wincon, 2 of them will be run in seprah decks to cuck control for good.

>>171658256
>"Can't be destroyed, banished, damaged, or targeted by spells and effects other than those related to attack and defense."
That wording still lets it get Ward via Guardian Sun. Good job.
Is "can't be affected by any other card's abilities" really that hard to understand that you feel the need to retemplate it ?

>>171658291
Nurse - Sir, you've been in a coma since Darkness Evolved.

You - Oh boy, I can't wait to play my favorite Seraph Elana deck!

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>>171657905
Where do banished monsters go?

Any dragon players have a decent storm ramp list? I checked Game AI but all they have are face decks and sahaluci.

>>171657670
I've been saying it for weeks though. If anything, GameAI agreeing with it just makes me question it.

>>171658257
>11 damage from hand combo from an empty board
>Khawy existing
>nep being 1 card +4
>mordecai forcing control to run Odin
>balanced
If the other strongest classes weren't so ridiculous shadow would easily be the strongest

The power gap between shadow and every class that isn't haven and rune is huge

>>171658391
It's already affected by guardian sun. God damn it, read the card text.

Can't be damaged. Can't be targeted by spells and effects other than those that relate to attack or defense. (For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)

Read this shit, you fucking retard. Why wouldn't it be affected by Bane, Themis, Tribunal, and Guardian Sun when it is only affected by targetted spells and effects? Holy fucking shit I hate this place.

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>>171658016
>sahaluci will beat every deck in the meta next patch

>>171658489
Face deck is storm ramp.
I think

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>>171658089
>stronger deck
1 year from now /svg/ will still be bitching about that couple of months when haven was good

>>171658483
the shadow realm

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Hello, operator? I've been memed on.

>>171658556
When you can't Themis it, don't whine here.

>>171658258
buffed or not, albert will not live a single turn
you pull some random numbers out of your ass, but the chances are they will be forced to use up all their evos before t9 (unlike you) to clear your buffed followers, and you can drop some wards/have other threats to the time when you drop the aegis; elana is a pretty shitty matchup for albert sword already (inb4 muh shadowlog)

75416

In need of a concede

>>171658483
to Shamanstone

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>>171658556
You're reading the wrong translation. It isn't affected by anything, target or not.

>>171658563
Top cuck more like, your casino deck will be dead by then

>>171658586
#BringBackElana

>>171658568
No. Face Dragon doesn't even play Ramp cards
Storm Ramp is Ramp that uses Forte + Urd and Genesis.

Despite Saha Luci being a shit deck I always lose to it because they always curve out perfectly.

>>171657947
>The cards not as bad as people say but the fact that if you want to get the ramp effect you need to either not ramp alot before you play it, or if you've ramped alot you're spending 5 PP to hit 10 PP next turn and then have 4 PP left to do something else, ya'know?
Ramp once, you get her full value, if you ramp a lot, then use her for healing.

>The turn count restriction seems really weird since it almost punishes you for ramping before you play the card.
Yeah, you either get an empty PP orb or get a heal.
Summong her in T5 with 6 PP orbs would be optimal, but it won't happen everytime

>That said basically being a mini-lucifer is pretty alright on it's own, if a little underwhelming for something that's a legendary.
At least they're not total trash, better than some of the legendary from RoB or even from this set.

>Can't say much about Ouroboros, I can definitely see the card getting out of hand really fucking fast if you've ramped hard and get him out on turn 6 or something, but at the same time if you've only ramped once or twice he seems a little underwhelming since you'll at best play him 3 times before dying to something.
Ouroboros could be useful, dunno, need to be tested.
He's can be an endless threat, but the opponent can just go face at that point.

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What she exactly says upon triggering her effect?

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>>171658685
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

You fucking mouthbreather, this is from the official website. That translation is from March 5th, on the twitter. It's not the right one.

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>>171658586
Elana should be tier one and kill all swordbungas

>>171658463
You are the one talking about using Aegis in Elana. Put Seraph instead and you got an easier wincon.

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>>171658586
>elana loses to even shadow now
Where did all go so right, bros?
>>171658697
And what does that make your Dragon deck that can't even beat a dead deck? lmao

>>171658794
Except when comparing with the japanese text, the Twitter translation is correct and the website one is incorrect. The date is irrelevant.

>>171658783
"Gotta use your noggin now and again"
She is pretty much mocking you for playing a braindead deck that relies entirely on luck.

>>171658745
>X is a shit deck
>but I keep losing to it
It's not shit then?

>>171658586
>couple of months
For an entire expansion.

>>171658803
I'll suck it up and play Elana on ladder if it means swordfaggots never get to see the win screen anymore for the rest of their lives.

>>171658956
>For an entire expansion.
A couple of months then? And even then midrange sword was still stronger.

>>171658586
>inb4 muh shadowlog

i believe you are also that tool who claims that face dragon is one of the best decks

>>171658913
Maybe he's the shitter, anon.

>>171658745
It's good though, just too damn expensive for people to play it, also the Dragons is shit meme is bringing the reputation down.

>>171658372
I use both, only google translate weebs will say that Game AI is better.

Feels good being idort.

>>171658794
Great, now look at the effect in Japanese.

>>171658913
If I were playing anyone of my aggro decks I would have won. But of course the minute I swith to control sword I start facing Dshits, and Sahacucks.

>>171659037
>But of course the minute I swith to control sword I start facing Dshits, and Sahacucks.
I swear this shit is fucking rigged.

>>171658956
>entire expansion.
>last month of the meta completely dominated by elf and midrange sword

????

>>171658868
Oh....

Many thanks

>>171658857
Okay, so rather than taking it from the official website of the game, the one that is run and maintained by Cygames, you're going to listen to a twitter post that LITERALLY
>L
>I
>T
>E
>R
>A
>L
>L
>Y
says
>*All stats and abilities are subject to change.

I have just one question. How the fuck are you alive? I'm serious. I don't know how someone could possibly be this stupid and manage to live past his toddler years. It's honestly akin to a miracle that you aren't in the fucking ground right now.

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>>171658853
save your prayers shadow, Eris with several decks will dominate ladder

>>171659008
Yeah but wording it as "just a couple of months" is downplaying it.

>>171659101
Post stats.

>>171659012
Okay. Keep living in your fantasy world where Elana is still terrorizing ladder instead of getting fucked in the ass by almost every meta deck.

>Magic illusionist: C
>Elder mage of dragonlore: D

What? Fucking game-AI I trusted you

>>171658913
Shadowverse is Rock Paper Scissors
There can be hundreds of rock players but all it takes is a couple of oblivious retards still playing scissors to frustrate people that want to play paper to counter rock.

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>>171659139

Looking for a concede.

27003

>>171659128
stop shitposting any time now

and the rest of you quit being so easily lured.

>>171658550

>11 damage from hand
Tell that to rouch, wolfbolt and forte + urd
It's the earliest high dmg from hand though, I'll give you that.

>Khawy, nep
Good cards, many like that in pet classes

>Mord
He is not a reason to run Odin. Seraph is.

Shadow has some good mechanics and great cards but so do all other crafts. It's the number of these good cards and winrate % that determine pet classes

>>171659139

What card is she playing?

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>1 bloodcraft win mission
>hit up aggro
>first match d shift
All too easy

>>171659012

Lets see your vast data collection then

>>171659148
>Yeah but wording it as "just a couple of months" is downplaying it.
How is it downplaying anything? It's exactly that, a couple of months.
You are the one trying to distort the truth by saying "LITERALLY AN ENTIRE EXPANSION FROM DAY 1 TO THE LAST DAY" when every expansion needs a couple of weeks for the meta to stabilize and the last month of DE was pretty much dominated by Dshift and Midrange sword.

>>171659158
unlike you i play aggro/midrange sword and know its match ups from practice instead of shadowlog

>>171659285
Themis

>>171659202
That's called a meta, you fucking moron. People play deck 1, people counter deck 1 with deck 2, and people counter deck 2 with deck 3, which is beaten by deck 1.

>>171659273
>out of arguments
>UR SHITPOSTING XD

>>171659128
Do you not realize that Cygames is a japanese company, that Shadowverse is a japanese game, and therefore that any and all English text is localization ? The official English website is localization, the English Twitter is localization.

The japanese text is what actually matters when it comes to how the game was coded, to the intent of the creators. In the event that two English texts differ, the one that corresponds with the japanese text is the correct one.

In this case, as previously stated, the japanese text backs up the Twitter translation over the other one.

>>171658653

We already established sword can get away with holding 1-2 evos because of strong rush minions.

If you forced them to evolve that much its because they bricked anyway

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>>171659128
and here's the effect in japanese
It's not "can't be targeted" (選択できない), it's "can't be affected" (能力を受けない)

>>171659341
>unlike you i play aggro/midrange sword and know its match ups from practice instead of shadowlog
What did he mean by this

>>171659242
Thanks Meido

>>171659412
Like I said, I'm not a chink. I can't understand these words. I'm not going to take your word for it, because you're just a degenerate who learns his japanese by watching anime.

Cygames makes 100 million a month from Shadowverse. They can afford a translation team better than the C rank virgins here in /svg/. For fucks sake.

>>171659161
>Elder mage of dragonlore: D

Does dirt rune even have enough space for him? Or would you just try to make a new kind of dirt deck, and if so, would that even be good in the first place

Is it supposed to act as a finisher after playing Big Guy? That implies your opponent even allowed to let that thing live and allowed it to hit face.

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am i reading this right
isn't this card absolutely fucking insane?

>>171659282
>seraph
All the seraph players have moved on. There's very few now, haven has one of the lowest play rates in the game.

>>171658285

anyone?

>>171659446
do you also have reading comprehension problems?

>>171659464
Literally ask anyone else who knows Japanese then you mongoloid.

Does Power of Protection work with Aegis?

It is a card that increases attack and defense, after all...

>>171659464
At this point you're just rejecting facts and throwing a tantrum, you know.
It's pitiful.

>>171659412

it says the exactly same thing

>>171659543
anything that messes with attack/defense should work

>>171659508
only if you play dragon

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>>171659496
More skellingtons for the family!

>>171659589
So I can get an unkillable ward on turn 10? Slow, but cute.

>>171659498
This, in masters i legit havent faced a seraph in a week. I remember the deck is pretty popular in low a and b rank

>>171659496
>situational Bone Chimera
>insane

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>>171659464
is shitposting and despair all you know?

>>171659282
Name one other silver class card as strong as khawy

>>171659340
>You are the one trying to distort the truth by saying "LITERALLY AN ENTIRE EXPANSION FROM DAY 1 TO THE LAST DAY"
How is that distorting the truth? It was good for the entirety of DE, which is closer to the truth than just saying "eh, it was good for a couple months". Contextualizing it matters because we all had to suffer through it until the next expansion hit and made it an obsolete deck with new cards.

>>171659543
Not sure.
It can give +1/+2 but not ward.

>>171659543
My guess is that if they thought of that scenario, the buff will apply and not the Ward. If they didn't, this is the card that will make Aegis stay in maintenance like Nephtys.

Why isn't Medusa's Gaze used? I'm cobbling together a Bloody Mary deck and this card is doing serious work. It lets me trade a weaker minion into an evolved one and kill it without me losing the board.

>>171659496

Yeah. That card gonna turn Atomy deck more fun

>>171659654
I believe that you'll only get the stats, not the ward.

>>171659496
yeah shadow's board is going to be very sticky next expansion with all of these floods and wights and zombies.

>>171659654
The ward part will likely not work, but the 1/2 probably will. Again, probably.

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>>171659543
Oh shit, there's your unbeatable Aegis combo.

>>171659517
No you just express yourself like shit.
Were you implying that run into Elana often enough (even though it's unpopular as fuck now) while playing midrange sword that you can be certain your experience is more reliable than actual data?
Were you talking about something else altogether even though the conversation is about Elana and brought up midrange sword as a total non-sequitur?
Or were you saying that you are a total shit player who somehow manages to lose against Elana while playing midrange sword?
Which one is it?

>>171659587
No, take a look at every other card with "can't be targeted" effect in japanese.
It's specifically a "can't be affected" effect that's unique to Aegis, which means random and boardwide effects won't affect it.

>>171659697
cards that change health should work this means it SHOULD give ward

>>171656515
is nigga verse really funnable game? I doubt it

>>171659464
I wil lgo from different perspective. Do you honestly think they would allow guardian sun to work on this guy? It would be way too broken. Anyone can run Odin to counter Seraph. What would counter this guy? Because that ward would be impossible to bypass without random/mass kill effect.

>>171659752
ward gets ignored if the follower is unattackable

>171659695
>How is that distorting the truth?
I already explained why. No (You) for you this time. The ladder was not dominated by Elana 3 months in a row no matter how much Shadowcraft central wants to bitch about it.

>>171659293
Well fuck man I wish i was as lucky, I usually only ramp once before turn 5.

>>171659795
>What would counter this guy?
Killing Sun before turn 9?

>>171659713

I run it in an aggro build to deal with early wards

>>171659795
>What would counter this guy
Non targetted damage and removal?

Themis
Tribunal
Bane

>>171659818
Aegis is attackable though, it just takes no damage from it. Which is precisely why it's essential that the card has no way of receiving Ward.

>>171659852
>I win regardless of boardstate!
kill yourself. even d shift can be countered by wards

>>171659694
Aria

>>171659818
But Aegis is attackable. Just can't take damage.

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>>171659871

>>171659894
He doesn't get receive effects other than those that affects stats.
see>>171659412

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>>171659871
>Non targetted damage and removal?
Drooling retard, it WON"T AFFECT HIM

>>171659694
siegfried, petrification

>>171659907
And if you remove the sun amulet before t9, aegis can't get ward.

(Assuming sun works on him.)

>>171659965
Your virginity is showing, you loser. It says targeted. TARGETED.

>>171659839
All you did was strawman, my friend. I never said Elana dominated the ladder, again, only that it was good through the entirety of DE.

You can get the last word if you want, but next time, only start a discussion if you actually know how to make a proper, logical argument.

>last silver reveal
>nothing for nep

I suppose it's still good for aggro, I suppose

>>171659959
I know, that's what I said. Why are you replying to me ? Aegis has "unaffected by everything" instead of simply "can't be destroyed or banished" in order for it to never be able to gain Ward. That's a crucial part of its design.

>>171660012
>siegfried
Are you joking

>>171660053
Jesus, it can't be targeted AND can't be affected.

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>>171660053
No it doesn't, that's the wrong translation.

>>171660154
THEN WHY DOES IT SAY THAT
IT SHOULDN'T SAY THAT IF THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS
WORDS HAVE FUCKING MEANING WHEN WORDS ARE PUT TOGETHER IN A SENTENCE IT'S TO CONVEY A FUCKING MEANING AND THAT'S WHAT CYGAMES IS DOING

THE DESCRIPTION MAKES SENSE STOP FUCKING DENYING IT HOLY SHIT

>>171660154
No. It can be targeted. It can't be affected by everything except +/- stat

have a drop of sense and quit replying to him, you're just shitting up the thread even further

>>171660208
refer to >>171659412

>>171660208
Kill yourself

>>171660069
if it works the way i think it works (like ghosthound sexton) it is actually broken

This is the most autistic /svg/ thread I've seen in a while

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>>171660069
Next time maybe, Zombie Party is definitely a good addition to the deck tho.

>>171660208
Time to step away from the computer

>>171660208
Jesus, calm down.

>>171660154
Actually, what's pretty funny is that you can probably throw a Demonic Strike at an Aegis. It will deal 0 damage, but nowhere does it say that you can't, unless the devs specifically coded it that way to avoid players wasting cards.
Can you cast Conscription if you have no Officer left in your deck ?

>>171660020
how retarded can you be?

>>171660281
>namefag and tripfag aren't here
Nah, far from it.

Is that sword amulet real? 3pp for that insane effect? 6/8 Albert hit your face in turn 5? 3/4 and 3/2 with free evo that turn on turn 5? Albert doing 12 damage instead of 10? Why? Sword doesn't need this card.

>>171660335
>Can you cast Conscription if you have no Officer left in your deck ?
Yes

>Tfw you draft a T2 deck thats so bad you just accept the free pack and move on.

First and last picks both had Rites/roost and Imperial Dragoon/Sahaquiel - Only neutrals were 2 3pp drops

>>171660335
you can piercing rune it for lethal
daria (still) tier 0 confirmed

>>171660208
It can be targeted, but it doesn't matter because it isn't affected by anything. End of story.
Stop clinging to a faulty translation.

>>171660335
>Can you cast Conscription if you have no Officer left in your deck ?
Yes, it does nothing, but you can cast it.

>>171660362
sword ends up making shadowverse not fun, more news at 11

>>171660362
>Sword doesn't need this card.
No, but it's the pet class so it always needs great cards.

>>171660279
that would be pretty insane, so I don't think it works like that

but if it does, I guess it's time to bring back the wind god memes

>>171660496
>pet class
Weren't that Runecraft buddy?

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>>171660426
>>171660447
>>171660407
Well then.
You can also Dance of Death it for lethal

>>171660362
It gets a lot of shit it doesn't need, but Sword is lolpetclass so it gets it anyway.

>>171660362
I don't see them running a 3PP amulet just to add +1/+2 dmg to Albert

>>171660279
It's probably a fanfare, Sexton has 2 lines of text for existing followers and the ones coming after.

How to spot reddit
>dragon is bad
> typing like this

>spacing out their posts

>like this
>posting about anything h*arthstone related
>pepe

>>171660549
Runecraft got nerfed when it surpassed sword, just like everything else that surpasses sword.

Why doesn't aegis just say "once this follower is on the field, it can't be removed. Can only be affected by spells that modify stats"

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I dunno if Commander Banner Sword is gonna be good, but it's sure as hell gonna be fun.

>>171660585
>just to add +1/+2 dmg to Albert

Because that's not what the card does.

>>171660585
No, but csword will when half their deck is commanders.

>>171660362
Albert does 6 damage on turn 5. next turn fairy beast and heal for 8. clear his board.

>nice try sword cuck

or alternatively Albert deals 6 damage and next turn I flood the board with le 20/20 snakes

>>171660640
i am reddit

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>>171660640
What a nice post anon.

>>171660512
>T3 Bone Chimera
>T4 Nobleman of Bones
>T5 Wind God
Sure :^)

>>171660281
I concur

>>171660640
How to spot a cockmongling faggot
>Implies dragon is good in any way

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Anyone else not looking up to those new cards?
It just feels the game will become even more retarded to me.

>>171660640
You must really be an experienced Redditor anon. You should go back.

>>171660685
Can't wait to try the commander cannon myself.

>>171660698
Sure, it's a card for commander cannon deck. I just don't see storm sword running it.

>>171659683
what does she say?

>>171660741
>T5 Lion

>>171660749
b-but game-ai said their legos are S tier

btw i said this from the beggining

>>171660640
Cunny!

Shadow = RNG Class
Rune = Cancer Class
Sword = Pet Class
Forest = Nerfed Class
Blood = Cucked Class
Haven = Honest Class
Dragon = Meme Class

>>171660749
t. D0

>>171660793
I wonder if banner activates before cannon so it can deal extra damage

>>171659139
I can't identify the thing between Elana and Sister.

>>171660824
Yeah, but the field will still be full of skeletons.

>>171660846
>Haven
>Honest.
Oh am i laffin.

>>171660698
Cannon commander is better when able to trade 2 for 1 every time after turn 5.

>>171660846
Lol keep trying hagfag

>>171656807
Blood really took Rune's slot as third pet class in this expansion. Not complaining.

>>171660905
PTP shadow making a comeback?

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>>171660069
>a worse bone chimera
>good for aggro

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>>171660846
>haven
>honest class

>>171660685
The problem I see with it is that the canon itself is massive tempo loss.

>>171661007
*Bahamuts*

>>171660819
Doushimashou/what shall I do ?

>>171660846
good post

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>>171660846
Next you're going to say "I was just bating, thanks for the (You)'s

Vine Bullet
3PP Spell
Deal 3 damage to an enemy follower. Deal 2 damage to the enemy leader if at least 2 other cards were played this turn.

>piercing rune but for forest

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>tfw your based bro Lucifer keeps you out of Albert range over 3 turns.

Suck it Erika

>>171660919
>>171660963
>>171661019
>>171661069
t.shadowbabs
The Banishcaust is finished get over it.

>>171661103
>5PP piercing rune
Just play DoD

>>171661043
*finishes you off with tyrant*

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>>171661069
>>171661019
>>171660963
Haven is an honest craft that will save you all from sword ungas

>>171661103
Piercing Rune but worse.

>>171660846
>TFW CancerMemeCuck

>>171661030
Hopefully you recoup it next turn since you can drop a 6pp commander on board and hopefully killl an enemy follower with the cannon

>>171659496
needs at least 2 min on the board

>>171661150
yeah man, themis is really honest and seraph is my goddess

preach it!

>>171661138
>Saha into Luci is one of the dickest combo in the game
>Luci is absolutely broken in T2
>a bishounen voiced by Sakurai
He is perfect.

>>171661150
I play Dragon.
And no Haven isn't honest, it's actually easily the most gimmicky class in the game.

>>171661180
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

>>171660926
Turn 3 do nothing is much easier to do than turn 5 do nothing. Cannon is also RNG, sometimes you're not going to kill anything with it.

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>>171660902
Depends on the order it was played, I think.
Take this as an example of a board
>Front Lines -- Rogue's Creed
>Play a Kunoichi and end turn
As of right now, Front Lines buffs the Kunoichi before Creed. If you instead played Creed before Front Lines, Creed would activate first.

So it's safe to assume what will happen is based on the order you played them on board.

The real question is, will a fanfare activate before Support Cannon? Such as Aurelia's.
I don't know how you could test that interaction right now, but my guess is that it Aurelia will be buffed before Cannon goes off.

>>171661103
It seems pretty bad if you see it as costing 5 mana (itself + two fairies), because for that cost you could also have removed something and dealt 2 face damage with a simple DoD.
The flexibility could be a selling point, we'll have to see.

>>171661138
>>171661260

Lucifer is my husbando

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>>171661245
>can bait themis
>can literally just odin
LOL

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Alright time for the new tier list from game-ai:

>Tier 1
>aggro sword
>midrange sword
>control sword
>albert sword
>albert aggro sword
>albert control combo sword
>midrange albert control aggro sword
>dshift

seems like they didn't even bother with a tier 2 list but I'm sure it was diverse and interactive

>>171661245
Seraph is the most balanced card in the game

>>171661150
>anyone calling haven cancer as it should be is a shadow player
Dude, aren't you a bit obsessed?

>>171661180
>heal
>wards
>honest

>>171661325
Show us where Albert touched you.

>they have levi in hand for evo 100% of the time

getting real tired of this shit.

>>171661395
Face

>>171661347
What does honest even mean to people ? Aggro Bats mirror ?

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>get double shadow mission
>look at my shadow collection
>mfw i realize
why is shadowcraft so fucking shitty craft
90% of all cards it has is trash
utter fucking trash

>>171661347
>heal
>wards
>not honest

>storm
>last word
>honest

>>171661296
It would have been strong back in DE Tempo, but that build doesn't work anymore. I don't see Beetle and Sakuna reviving it.

>>171661334
fighter is the most balanced card in the game

>>171661450
With his dick?
Twice?
Nice.

>>171661283
Aurelia's fanfare must be completed before anything trigger after that so it'll be buffed

>>171661347
t. unga

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>>171661495
>albert will never dick slap you twice

>>171661445
>consistently having a low cost 3 of in a class with fucktons of draw power and deck thinning
Really spellboosts my oglers

It's pretty clear at this point that "dishonest" is a code word for "deck I don't like." If you're being tricked into healing and board wipes against haven, the class known for healing and board wipes, you have no experience with the game, and most likely all card games in general.

>>171661347
not the havenshitter but heals and wards are pretty honest and straight forward.
Amulets and cowndown BS is the most dishonest thing in the game.

>>171661473
Play T2 anon, Shadow is the best alongside Sword there.
Also clearing dailies with shadow is easy because Shadows' bronze-silver RoB cards are great.

>>171661138
>you'll never be tenderly fucked by Luc

>>171661283
Fanfares will always trigger first. Check Yurius vs any Fanfare that kills him or Leonidas's Resolve vs any Fanfare

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>>171661498
Exactly my thoughts. A card's effect must resolve complety before any other action is taken.

>>171661473
Probably because your engris isn't great friendalam

>>171661591
Fuck off, cancer.

>>171661607
I don't want to just do dailies
I want to play more than just 1 deck type

>>171658550
>>11 damage from hand combo from an empty board
Requires early setup, requires shadows, gets rekt by any ward. It's really easy to counter, that's no albert with 5/7 body and storm, besides you can't tutor phantom howl.
>Khawy existing
You can play around him by not dropping big minions.
>>nep being 1 card +4
According to /svg/ nep was "meme" card not a long time ago. I don't see a problem with her, you can still banish mordecais with odin, dragonification, petrification, like, there are lots of options.
>>mordecai forcing control to run Odin
So does seraph, so does frontguard general, so does bahamut and now new forest lego too. It's not like morde is the sole reason of running odins.
>If the other strongest classes weren't so ridiculous shadow would easily be the strongest
You have to nerf 3 crafts for that, your argument's only proving my point that shadow's in the middle.

>t2 lancer
>t3 banner
>t4 amelia 4/5, evo for 6/7. Gelt most likely will be 0 cost since you do nothing T3.
>T5 3/4 mage and 3/2 knight, evo mage for free, trade 5/6 with anything
>t6 albert hit face for 6
>t7 roland
>t8 trooper+ luminous mage hit face for 2
>t9 SABER STRIKE for 12 damage

Enjoy """"""control""""" sword meta for 3 months!

>>171661691
Just build Nep or Aggro Shadow, they're good enough.

Do i need demonic storm on my aggro blood deck?

>>171661490
Beetle and Sukuna will be played in Tempo.
More Storm? Yes
2x 1/1 + 4/4 removal bait turn 4? Yes

>>171661690
>ad hominem
Dismissed.

>>171661717
Luminous Knight probably won't be buffed. The translation says any commander that comes into play, not that is summoned

>>171661778
Did you not hear what I just said?

>>171661702
>play around cards by just not playing cards
Wow thanks anon sage advice

>>171661812
Sakuna is 6/6 if you trigger her, you have to evo her.

>>171661717
that looks midrange

also
>the enemy played test of strength into aegis

:^)