/twg/ - Total War General

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>>171525149
Kill all chaos shitters.

TRUE KING OF EIGHT PEAKS

>>171525406
Kill yourself instead.

>>171525635
Do not talk to the tripfag

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Ded general, need March 31st

For the fag having trouble with VC when playing as empire.
Right so I usually fight the undead around the early mid game. I'll take a couple of mortars and a cannon. Halbrediers, swordsmen, crossbows and some knights preferably reiksguard. Also a couple units of flagellants.

Chances are you'll be doing this bit with Franz or your LL so even better. Especially if it's Franz on his flying rapebird.

First things first. Shoot the fuck out of them. Target whatever you don't want to fight and shoot it until it dies.

Try to anticipate which of their units is going where. Get rid of dogs and bats first at all costs. Then I try to weaken their lord with crossbow fire before the armies meet.

Let them charge you (you have the skill that negates charge bonuses right?) Try to pair up good matches.

Use Franz + reiksguard to charge one unit on one flank in the arse and cycle until it dies. Meanwhile as their dogs and bats are all dead (right?) Move your ranged round behind them and start shooting. Remember you can target large models in melee and not worry about FF so much.

If their lord isn't legendary then use Franz to snipe him. If it's a skilled up Vlad, shoot him first.

The crumbling mechanic is useful but think of it like wavering on a normal unit. If you see something is crumbling do exactly what you would do to break a unit (I.e. cavalry charge it).

If you have a wizard with the lore of light (why don't you?) Use it. Laugh.


If you're still here anon, tell us your army comps and we'll see if we can help.

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Kislev is rightful ________ clay.

>>171526023
Thanks dude, really appreciate it.
Like I said, my army comps suck - exclusively swordsmen, spearmen, a few crossbows and free militia company.

Granted, they're all buffed up with Honest Steel and the charge negation bonus, etc, but it seems I fucked up by not upgrading.

I have no idea how you could field "a couple of mortars and a canon", along with cavalry in the early mid game. I'm turn 60ish and I barely finally got a gunsmith going.

Guess I focused too much on economy / expansion?

Also, how to use Franz to snipe enemy LL's? I see lots of people talk about this, but Franz seems to suck to be honest. For example I put him on Manfred during the battle and he was clearly losing the fight. I've even had him fall in battle against Beastmen before, he seems pretty squishy and weak to be honest.

No wizard of light either. I suck.

>>171526473
What the fuck are you doing to have struggled to get a gunsmith by turn 60? Have you even taken Marienburg? Maybe you should start posting some pictures of your Empire and how you leveled Franz.

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>Want to play warhammer
>think about how much better the game will be with the 4 extra races coming in the expansion
>lose desire to play warhammer

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Shut down all production of the Spandau.

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>>171526023
to add on to this, I do something similar to this anon - shooting shit like crypt horrors/varghulfs/vargheists w/ xbows to kill them quickly and using cannons to damage whatever cav they have. A good way to assist your infantry vs large amounts of zombies/skeletons is to have a mortar far enough behind you line so that the minimum range is just in front of your troops - this will allow you to target large enemy blobs with alt + right click, and since you are firing at such short range the mortars will be pinpoint accurate (so accurate that if you don't change their target they will be hitting the empty "craters" in enemy formations caused by previous volleys). Light wizard is a must have for netting stray fliers/doggos and the leadership debuff

>>171526473
franz needs deathclaw to become the bamf he is meant to be. As for army comps basic state troops are fine when buffed

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>>171525158
A good point! I didnt think anyone would remember so i thought I would ask again

>>171525063
Bingo bango bongo Rheims is ours so now we end-game lads

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>>171526712
Yes I took Marienburg recently, I'm making 5k a turn now so I have finally gotten around to putting up buildings like gunsmith, reiksfort, etc. Empire buildings are staggeringly expensive.

Here is my Empire, Franz for some reason is leveling really slowly through battles - he is currently only lvl 10 or 11. I have him on the pegasus currently, he has a few points in blue, maxed out the armor in yellow, and am currently working on red stuff.

>>171526957
I enjoyed your shitty campaign enough to remember it.
My own shitty campaign that I tried to post struggled for 50 fucking turns, got nowhere, and resulted in more german casualties in north africa than during the entirety of operation desert fox
I'm gonna try again one of those days and stream it for you guys, I promise

>>171527014
>Empire buildings are staggeringly expensive.

Be sure to drop a wizard in developing provinces if you can to get the -15% discount on all buildings.

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>>171526804
SHUT IT DOWN

>>171527014
Taking Marienburg should be the first thing you do after conquering Reikland. If you have a Castellan in Altdorf and deploy a wizard with the first blue upgrade you can save tremendous amounts of money on construction. I have no idea how you're at turn 60 with a level 10 Franz, you must be barely fighting battles.

>>171526473
You don't suck but your floppy hat fu is weak.

I'd suggest as follows though I'm sure other anons might say different

>Franz sucks
I'd beg to differ but make sure when he's fighting an enemy general that you watch him and make sure he's thumping the enemy general. He will (if left to his own devices) Try to kill everyone near him, spreading his damage out. Keep clicking attack on that bloodsucker. If it seems he's losing bad don't be shy to run him away. Sometimes tying Vlad up with a unit of flagellants and killing everything else is the best thing.

>no big guns.
You have regiments of renown I assume because you've got FC. Get that cannon and that rocket launcher. I usually also manage to pinch some mortars by the time I've gotten over to the undead but don't worry if you don't. Building them I try to do from Nuln and spec reikland for cavalry. If you're starting with Franz then you must by now already have one incredibly experienced unit of reiksguard. I try to build a reiksfort in helmgart as well as a wall in case the French get any funny ideas. Anyway just use Zintlers if you're having trouble.

Key points vs VC
1. Kill the fast shit
2. Tie up and if possible kill their lord fast and anything that buffs shit like corpse carts.
3. With your hammer stuff try to concentrate on one unit at a time until it crumbles and dies then keep folding your line around them.

If you ever find a potion of healing make sure Franz gets it. It makes him a bit silly.

You should get a free wizard as well from quests and stuff no?

Also make sure if you've found any cool swords and what have you that they are equipped.

Be aware also that characters (priests etc) have a flat -2 chaos/undead corruption thing. You'll probably need two armies one in east and west sylvanniafor a good while until they stop rebelling every few turns. I'd recommend building sigmar temples in those provinces ASAP.

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>>171526767

I know this feel

happens with every fucking DLC as well.

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Leaves fall in autumn
like Clan Ito upon our blades
they are punk bitches

Just started my first Shogun 2 campaign as Clan Shimazu after binging on Kurosawa. This is a nice fucking game, though the lack of alt-dragging your units is very grating.

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I want to wife one so bad :c

wat do

>>171527517
iktf too but whatever the next thing coming is it's going to take so long it's not even worth bothering about it right now.

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>>171527361

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>>171526957
We continue to bully the "Bretons" in "Little Britain" which is soon to become part of "Bigger Britain"

>>171527224
I bet itd be shitty if u streamed but i'd do lots of watching my lad

>>171527629
You know one way or another she's going to penetrate you anon?

>>171527665
If the trailer for the expansion really is coming at the event at the end of this month I would like to see that first before continuing doing campaigns, just so I know what's coming up

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>>171527732
Why does the AI do this? How can this be a good idea

>>171527815
Best fetish elves.
Poncy elves.
Based lizards.
Plebbit rodents.

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G O B L I N S

>>171527950
I've always wondered. Are you the same autist who posts rock the boat and dominated by a best elf, or is there a little team of you with one weak meme each?

>>171527910
no dude he's winning see the balance of power its hopeless

>>171527938
>CA reveals the first expansion to be to be tomb kings, ogre kingdoms, chaos dwarfs, and skaven with araby as a pre-order bonus similar to chaos

what would the reaction be?

>>171528152

>tomb kangz right from the get go

I'd be hype but there is no fucking way they will go with it.

in a best case for release it would be skaven, high and dark elves with lizards and a slight expansion south to add in araby and tomb kangz later.

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>>171527910
>Geoffrey the Lewd
oh hello

>>171528152
Trailer will have a Chaos Dwarf getting picked up and eaten by an Ogre, who is then struck down by one of those big Tomb Kings monsters, then sniped by a Skavenschutzen! Then it'll fade to black and a the sounds of horses and the words "war has changed" will float to the screen

>>171528152
Incredible joy within the cholesterol logged heart of this salty neckbeard.

Leddit would melt down.
That one weird fag on the CA forums who shoehorns Araby into every discussion would probably have an aneurysm.

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The heresy of Hadrian is no more.

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are their any more of these memes for TW:WH or TW in general or is this the only one?

>>171528152
There would be a lot of screeching from the elf players but who cares about them
The only race I'd actually miss would be the lizardmen

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>>171527910
Ok not gonna lie, was a much better idea than it seemed at first glance. Those foot-soldier general's bodyguards are fucking tanks

/twg/ I just woke up from a dream where a Witch Elf was straddling me. At the point of orgasm she plunged a knife into my chest and showed me my beating heart even as my balls emptied within her. Maybe she will bear me a half elf child? I woke up trembling and shaking. I've never been so freaked out and yet so turned on. I can still remember the sight of my own arterial blood spraying across those perfect tits as it all went black.
I'm worried guys. This has been playing on my mind. Do you think Reiksguard could use a buff? Something more to distinguish them from empire knights?

>>171529032
sorry memelet. that is a general purpose meme and its relatively fresh

nothing to do with warhammer or total war specifically

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>>171529096
Hahahaha i managed to kill all of Brittany's royal family in one battle hahaha

>>171529172
>from sexy murder during elf coitus to reiksguard buffs in one paragraph
Well. I'm not sure, but I'd like to see the empire's reliance on demigryphs challenged.

>>171529172
m8

>>171529172
Is...is there more?

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>>171529032
no

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G O B L I N S

>>171527950
>>171529771
This is the problem with gobbos. There's always one more of sneaky little fuckers than you expected.

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What. I haven't even ventured into Europe yet.

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>>171529350
Ok cool so as the Breton family fades away so do LOTS of their troops. I can waltz into Saint-Breiuc and take Quimper in a turn or two. I took Chalons in central France, so now I'm like 6 or 7 regions away from victory. Hoozah. Fuck the frogs

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Goblin Dabbing

>>171527014
Alright so if you start a new game you should have conquered the Reikland by turn 5 and have a full or almost full army.

Then see if the Marienburg army is away or moves away in like 2 turns. If they don't, start over.
If their army turns around and attacks you after you've sieged their empty city then you'll have a decent fight but you should win this. Use your reiksguard or whatever cavalry you have and kill their mortar. Use your 4 or so crossbowmen to focus fire their Free Company Militia and use your own Free Company Militia (have 2) on the edges of your infantry line to murder thier pistoleirs.

During all of this you should be upgrading the cities as soon as you can with your population surplus. Build weaving houses or whatever the first level money building is called.
Make sure to build guardhouses in every, EVERY town, even your cities, just because you have walls already doesn't mean it has a good garrison. It's pretty bad, actually.

Sometimes the beastmen siege a city when they come. So the safe route is to have Franz turn around after taking Marienburg and not worrying about the other province yet. Kill beasties, do the quest, then take the last settlement. Then it's up to you. You can turtle and confederate, or war and confederate

>>171529745
What's the original of this?

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>>171530498
Also, in other news, fuck the Scots. These bastards have been roaming around Ireland for way too fucking long

>>171530791
text is pretty much the same

WHY ARE THE HILLS SKULLS? OH GOD I'VE BEEN PLAYING SINCE RELEASE AND I'VE ONLY JUST SEEN THIS

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Charlemagne and his frankish fuccbois tried to siege konstanz, but I had a full stack there ready for them.

>25% of enemy kills came from exploding ammo from large memeagers

Since I hit the Imperium goal for the campaign, I'm ending it here - seeing as how this is a fitting battle and I'm getting tired of micro-ing horse archers every battle.

The AI has absolutely no idea how to deal with horse archers in age of charlemagne

>send horse archers towards enemy
>they send cav out to screen
>but they send it in diamond formation so it dies instantly to a couple of volleys
>repeat with other cav
>repeat with enemy general
>by now enemy infantry has marched into your spear/shield wall
>use horse archers to run down enemy archers
>any infantry that tries to support their archers gets shot in the back by up to 8 ranged units (4 tribesmen/4 foot archers)
>support infantry that is losing w/ tribesmen
>send shock cav around flanks, turn on fire at will/flaming/whistling
>wait for the arrows and then rear charge
>mop up the mass rout with your cav

Tribesmen are fun to use, one of my favorite units in attila since they are hybrid infantry that can actually do well in both of their roles, unlike hybrid skirmishers in the base game which can only survive in melee, not thrive. I didn't use the noble archers/horse masters since most of the enemy cav I was up against was light/very light cav that would have been able to catch them

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>>171531674
the papacy got relocated to saxony after I conquered rome

>>171526203
Are you going to spam this dog in every thread

Empirefags.
Don't forget to pick up route marcher.
Catching the assholes is half of it.

>>171531542
that's just how edgy warhammer is

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Arrows soar through air / like blooded swallows in spring / this is my fort now

Just did my first siege in Shogun 2; killed their general with my bow ashigaru before I even assaulted it. Did not realise your warriors actually scale the walls or that breaching the gates was equivalent to putting them on fire. I think I'll really enjoy this game.

>>171532349
It's the best in the series. Have fun, anon!

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>>171530842
>fuckthescots.jpg

The last family member got away and has 1 member left in his retinue. One more turn to drop these kiltfags, how fucking annoying.

What are Sisters of the Thorn for?

>>171532754
dickbag cavalry
lore of life (?) spells that dont cost any winds of magic

>>171532754
For the removal of lesser races.

Is there a way to bring one unit without a lord in custom games in Warhammer?

>discount Maldred von Carstein's wind of death during silver seal battle
>dealt 3 - 4000 damage to a single unit of great swords
ohh boy, it killed none of them but half their health wiped in a single spell, is this why he's like the most expensive LL when fully decked out?

>>171532754
Women are inferior to men.

>>171533017
There's a mod for it I believe

>>171533112
Wind of Death generally destroys a lot of infantry anyway.
Mannfred's only that expensive because he gets a dragon and he's the only lord in the game who can get two lores of magic at once, take that off and he's not that much more expensive. Still dies like a chump in melee to a lot of the dedicated melee lords.

>>171532754
Bound spells that have no resource cost so you can just keep using them on cooldown throughout the entire battle whilst you cycle charge and/or skirmish.

Why are Slayer unit sizes so big? Isn't one Slayer able to solo a troll by itself?

So I missed the humble sale because I'm a retard but I'm contemplating getting Warhammer now.

Which DLC is worth it, if any?

>>171533924
Blood and Gore, the two Lord packs, and the Beastemes.

Get all the FLC too

>>171533984
>tfw I only bought beastmemes during the sale to get Boris
Feels good, man

>>171533924
Steam has Warhams for 50% off

>>171534108
That is where I am buying it

>>171533924
Everything except Chaos is good if you don't like multiplayer. If you like multiplayer, it's all good.

Best value is King and Warlord.

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So let me get this straight

This armor makes my guy harder to hit by... sox, whatever that means.

It also flat out reduces any physical damage he takes by 16 percent and reduces magical damage to him by 8 percent?

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>>171532564
SCOTS PLEASE LEAVE
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING

>>171534295
All types of damage (physical magical fire melee ranged etc) reduced by 8%, physical damage reduced by further 8%

>>171534295
16% physical damage reduction, 8% magic and ranged damage reduction.

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>>171534435
Well, this happened. I'd love 14k but also fuck the fucking Scots.

or do i take the money ;_;

>>171534723
How much will you lose reinforcing armies and fighting the next stack of scotts to come down?

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chivalourlous af

How does armor value work? Is it just a straight up damage reduction or does armor grant vulnerabilities against certain types of attack? Is there a point where armor is no longer needed? My steam tanks sit at 185 armor and sat in the middle of a greenskin horde for some 10 minutes only to lose 10% of their total HP. I know there's a limit to the amount of AP greenskins, but hot damn these things feel beastly.

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>>171534723
OH, you modders. This is the rare "Noble Swordsman" unit. Brittany will soon be ours, assault coming soon.

>>171534872
Less than 14k easy, and its not like the Scots would be getting a huge amount of troops back from this massive ransom. (I already ransomed it, he got 6 retinue members and 7 heavy inf)

The problem is the Scots are in Wales but i literally have no idea
>Where
>How many

Luckily I have a castle there to build an army, but I fucking hate these Scottish events.

Is Helman Ghorst worth using in the grand campaign or is he as boring as he seems. Shoulda given all his shit to Kemmler and moved him to Mousillon.

>take karak eight peaks as Belegar
>Dwarfs faction has already steamrolled and taken the rest of the land around it
haha t-thanks guys!
should I of moved in for the kill sooner?

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>>171535143
>technology.jpg

>>171526767
>want to play warhams
>waiting for expansion
>want to play stellaris
>waiting for expansion
>want to play factorio
>waiting for expansion
>want to play bannerlord
>waiting forever

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>>171535764
Goodnight, lil brittos. We Breton now.

>>171535091
Armor is a set reduction to physical damage

Presumably it has diminishing returns, for sure there is no way to get 100% immunity to physical damage.

The other stat, melee defense, is the chance to completely block physical damage.

Guys, you recommend DEI for Rome 2 or Attila?

Have rome 2 but haven't got Attila yet. Never bothered modding Rome 2 due to how shit it was at release.

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>>171536527
This is not a suitable army to assault a castle!!

SOMEONE FIX THIS AI!!

>>171535091
Armor reduces non armor piercing physical damage by a random percentage between half of the armor value and the full value, obviously capped at 100%.

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Oh, man.
Last guy to confederate. I'll get 2 provinces out of it. Some how Stirland and Tabelecland both got a chunk of Ostland, while Ostland got Tabelecland proper.

But that public order...

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>>171536746
God, please, why, just spawn the Scots somewhere I have troops jesus christ

>>171536746
I wish TWW AI did this more often

It seems like the AI in older TW games is actually better than modern ones, they can multitask and send small strike forces all over the map rather than TWW which is just
>HERE IS MY ENTIRE ARMY, THIS 20STACK REPRESENTS EVERYTHING I OWN

>>171536371
Oh God I feel your pain.

>>171536746
I don't know if the AI knows this, but ... he doesn't have to assault. It's a perfectly fine army to besiege a settlement.

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>>171536371
>Bannerlord

I almost died not too long ago and as it was happening all I could think about was that if I died I wouldn't be able to play Bannerlord.

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>what's a few teef between mates

Can orcs actually be friends?

>>171536371
Oh yeah?
>Have Nier: Automata
>Still fucking playing Warhams

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AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaahhhhh...

FEET

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>>171537802
>Can orcs actually be friends
Orcs can be frends as long as dey knows dey place in da soshul order.
Lil gobbos know dat deys runts and respect dat a orc could squash 'em at anytime. Dat lets orcs n gobbos be gud mates.
Its wen you dunno whos da boss dat ur gonna hav trubble.

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A problem I keep running into in the Bretonnian campaign is that, even when I have the proper buildings and enough money, sometimes I can't recruit units - or more correctly, I can't recruit units that at one point I was allowed to recruit. Usually it's flavors of Knights, but in a recent campaign I've lost archers.

What am I doing wrong? Am I just making some retarded mistake and not realizing it? It's not as if it's an across the board problem - if I lose the ability to recruit Knights Errant in one province, somehow I can upgrade a stable in another province and recruit a few from there. But sometimes it just seems random.

>>171538891
Are your provinces getting sacked or razed?
Otherwise, no idea, haven't played them yet.

Tomorrow old friend?

>>171538891
I've experienced this whilst playing with mods on that add new units. Not sure what fixes it, but does it happen when you upgrade a building and can no longer access that tier's recuritables?

If so, you're not making a mistake, it's just a bug. Check your mods and if you're running vanilla don't forget to send a report to CA or somethin.

>>171539225
I haven't played with mods yet, though I've been looking at a regiments of renown addon. So far it's just the base game, and obviously some of the free DLCs.

I don't think it really happens how you say it does with mods, though - peasant archers are tied to farms, so they shouldn't be affected by upgrades. Knights Errant, as far as I've tried, work fine for a few units, and suddenly I can't recruit more. And at one point I built whatever building you needed for a trebuchet, but the unit never showed up as being recruitable. I'll probably just send a report.

are magical attacks good for anything besides beating savage orcs and wraiths?

>>171540571
Breaking up formations

And a lot of them deal good damage when overcast

>>171537226
I agree with you completely. Sieges suck especially, when you have to throw around large armies just for a chance of success.

>>171540639
sorry anon, i didn't mean spells, i meant actual magic attacks, like the kind lords get with an item, or belegar when he builds his 8 peaks building

>>171540571
Arent they decent vs Chaos?
I imagine with all that armor it helps break them down a bit more easily

>>171540723
Oh magic damage

Hell yes its good, it avoids armor which is the biggest 'fuck you' to damage in the game. Wuzzag is completely OP because he applies it to his whole army.

>>171540841
>it avoids armor
wait what

>>171537802

Of course they can, they share common interests after all. Just expect to get into a fight every now and then over skud. But afterword you both laugh it off and go bully some gobbos

>>171540941
What did you expect? All magic ignores armor, the only thing that reduces magic damage is magic resistant such as what all dwarf units have.

>>171541110
*skub

Just got beast men dlc. Starting a new campaign as morghur because I like his whole chaos shtick.

Any pro tips?

>>171541125

Magic weapon damage does not ignore armor.

>>171541302
rape and pillage

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Gork or Mork ladz? Whoz da meanest?

>>171538076
Neat, she's riding side-saddle. Never noticed.

>>171541302
Invest in horde growth and upkeep reduction first
Focus on one army at a time until you're comfortable enough to handle the extra upkeep costs and building the new army's growth
Poop on everything with minotaurs

>>171541405
gork is brutally cunning
mork is cunningly brutal

>>171541125
I don't think this is right at all.

Unless you mean damage from spells, not weapons marked "magic"?

>>171541436

He's playing Morghur so Minotaurs are no.

Chaos spawn are decent, with the upkeep reduction they're definitely worth spamming

>>171541530
I thought Chaos Spawn were the thing that Morghur pays more for. My bad
Do more Centigors and maybe Bestigors

I just attacked someone with wood elves and their army disappeared. I got an event saying I'd killed their lord in battle.

Anyone got any insight?

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>the empire protects man
>the empire is the shield of civilizaton
>sigmar did nothing wrong
>the empire defends humanity

False.

Here is an example of the warcrimes committed by the imperialist dogs and lackeys of sigmar and his false-emperor tyrants. These peasants were slaughtered in their farms while the imperial hoards pillaged through the countryside of Sylvania. Their symbol clearly visible on the board behind them, left as a warning and an intimidatory sign for others. Even though they claim to come to cleanse the land of the undead, it appears they also take a liking to also killing the living.

>No more greenskins
>Haven't completed Ghal Meraz because, lel, have to defeat 5 amies so I sacked the same city over and over until the fucking dwarves took it.
>Then they kill the last army.
What the fuck do I do now?

>>171542717
Nice try Manlet.
Those are clearly ghouls. They're not even alive, therefor, not human.

>110 turns in VH as Von Carsteins
>Faggot little hairy rock niggers already wiped out the orcs

Why are dwarves so cancer in this game? will they ever get tuned the fuck down? now I'm proxying & funding Kadrin to fight dwarves while I try to hold against chaos and empirefags. And dwarves are free enough to send a few doomstacks for a tour in my lands every once in a while. Not even mentioning the cancer agent spam.

Now my proxies, after a period of victories, got cleaned up by warherds of chaos and are down to only two rocknigger caves (their capital and some other midget cave that's cut off and deep inside dwarven lands)

once these fucks finish up fighting the border princes they will turn all their doom stacks loose on me. And I already got a glimpse of how many doom stacks they have in the badlands.

>>171542717
What were they growing? Really tiny potatoes?

>>171542871
>ghouls farming

t. loyalist leash-tied dog-lackey.

>>171541125
magic damage absolutely does not ignore armor, not even spell damage ignores armor unless specified

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>AI in charge of controlling Brets

>>171543130
>"Hey Ghoorge, Ghef, go lay down in the mud, I'm gonna take a picture!"
>farmers
>>>/pol/

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>>171542717
they even hanged up some skulls of dead people they murdered on their signspot.

The criminals.

>>171543314
how do you explain the shield and the skulls, you government-supporter propagandist lackey.

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OK who memed on me by saying that you need to vassalise the tribes instead of awaken them as Chaos? That doesn't help, since every now and then they just break vassalage and declare war on me, like if I declare war on a faction or someone else on me. Turn 100 and I've been running around in norsca all game playing whack a mole, just lost another 2 of my vassals (making number three who I conquered and re vassalised).

This is not fun getting nowhere

>>171543331
I'm getting tired of your ghoul meming faggotry.
Just because people don't plank anymore doesn't mean people don't know what it is.
This is blatant.
>>171543528
>Ghouls don't have access to skulls.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! They probably got it from the poor children they killed, along with their toy shield.

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so, dumb question but in TWW as dwarves, is there any reason not to replace quarrellers and shit with the great weapon versions? building up an army (third one actually) to take a shot against the vamps and just looking for advice
dont have any TW pictures, so have this instead

>>171542952
dwarves are fucking cancer

9 out of 10 campaigns they will control half the map and maintain military superiority through the entire first half of the game

That's why you have to keep an eye on state of affairs in the badlands and see if they roll over the orcs early or late, you have to establish diplomacy with orcs and send them funds since early to curb the dwarf swarms coming down from the mountains.

I'm in a 200 turn empire campaign and i'm enjoying watching the orcs and dwarves tear eachother apart while I fund whoever is losing.

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>campaign is going great
>feel like I can finally relax
>out of the fog of war comes an innumerable tide of undead, spearheaded by spooky ghost agents that go to haunt every single eastern border city
>Averland is incapable of fucking off and has taken to raiding Stirland while the vampires are raping them too
>Ostland wipes Nordland off the map and is sweeping through Middeland
>greenskin rebels appear outside Karak Norn and the mountains are just filled with goblins and squigs

>>171543763
The great weapon variant of quarrellers don't have shields, so they're worse against other ranged units. Not really an issue against VC, though.

>>171526023
Do dogs count as large?
What unit should i use to counter them?

>>171543209
I've noticed Carcassonne will declare war against me when I'm Corroune sometimes. I accept, wait a few turns, and then they sue for peace, sometimes with gold - they never even sent an army against me, since there are still several dukedoms inbetween.

>>171544110
yeah this army is going to be used exclusively against vamps till they're wiped out, only thing i know about vamps from the little i tried of them is they dont really have armored units so i plan on bringing some irondrakes and flame cannons along with the usual artillery and shit

I've won maybe 10 huge battles in a row, most of which deserved to be called heroic but weren't, and Orion now has two levels of the cowardice trait. Fucking great.

>>171541405
Gorkamorka is.
:^((((

>>171544513
makes sense, he is a beastman after all

>>171544323
Keep an eye on what they're bringing in their army comp. Yeah a lot of VC units aren't armoured, but they can bring it if they want and it will really fuck up your day if you don't have a unit of Thunderers sitting around.

>>171543540
Are there any mods that make Chaos better or do I have to wait until presumably mid 2018 when they might have possibly fixed it?

>its a pikemen reorient in 1 second episode
>its a pikemen suffer no debuffs in forest episode
>its an archer blob nukes your units 1 at a time while they're in combat

is there an attila mod that fixes this shit

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>>171545515
the VC attack has been pushed back cause archaon decided to get his ass out of bed and im totally not ready for that...

Day 301
Warhammer is still shit.

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Post screenshot

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>>171527629
Is there an edit yet?

>>171546279
Day 5713
Your face is still shit.

>>171546075
If there were some beast with four legs that we could catch the bastards with!

>>171537802
Yeah boy, they arent as socially inept as other factions like to treat them. I mean Skarsnik gave Azhag his Wyvern for christ sakes, and everyone goes to see Wurrzagg at some point in their lil lives it seems. They're socially antisocial, cept maybe Grimgore, he IS propa' ardand antisocial.

How long do TW games generally take to go from announcement to release? Considering getting beastmemes and maybe king and the warlord, but if TW:W2 is going to potentially be out in 4-5 months, I'll probably pass on them.

Clan Angrund tips for VH campaign?

Should I go straight for eight peaks or wait?

Also is age of Charlemagne worth getting or should i just stay away?

TW warhammer looks fun, why does it have such shit ratings on steam?

>>171542952
They'll soon get taken to fucking school once skaven come about.
>stack upon stack of armour piercing snipers, rending through their chubby lil bodies.

>>171546886
DLC

>>171546807
>out in 4-5 months

That's extremely unlikely. There probably won't even be an announcement trailer for four or five months, and then several months of gameplay teasers before the actual release. CA have straight up said they're going to release new content for older historical titles (almost certainly Attila) because the next historical TW is so far away. I reckon it'd be a Q4 release at the absolute earliest, and maybe even Q1 2018.

>>171546886
Fags mad about DLC for some reason even though that's how games have worked for over ten years now.

>>171546838
The art in AoC is weak but I guess if you like the period? There's a mod that makes the individual factions more unique, I definitely recommend that

>>171546980
>stacks

please no.

They were very few in numbers (Jezzails)

Skaven were just an infinite, numberless hoard of rats with a little 5% of technological weapons and monsters (ogre-rats, savage rats, etc)

the main reason the Skaven asswhooped the dwarves many times was their chemical globadiers, they filled the corridors of dwarven cities with chemical weapons and grenades and strangled them easily.

All in all I hope Skaven get implemented like the real ones and like how they should, numbers reliant. an infinite, chittering tide of cowardly rats using numbers to win. instead of a symmetric army to the rest of the current ones (OP as shit with apeshit rosters)

>>171547182
I have a feeling that Skaven are going to have a nice well rounded roster like the empire, not too many armoured units and no cavalry but a shit ton of vanguard deployment, expendables and a nice piping hot slice of technology units. Also weaponized rat aids, but im expecting EVERYTHING to have poison attacks regardless.

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>>171547164

>The art in AoC is weak

>>171546886
Because the actual mechanics and gameplay were neutered with DLC jewery shoved in your face.

>>171547182
What faction do you think counters or will counter dwarves best?

>>171547024
>>171547110
>>171547749
Personally i think it all comes down to Blood for the Blood God, they fucked their early popularity with that, but DLC has been fine since.

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This shit happened like 4 times on the same shaman already, fuck.

>>171547749
I paid $20 for Counter Strike: Source in 2004 and have, without even the slightest hint of exaggeration, put almost twenty thousand hours of my life in to it. Video games have always been the single most cost effective form of media by several orders of magnitude and it was inevitable that developers would start to try and earn more money from them.

Just be glad we're getting a good game as a result, and that you don't have to buy your DLC/pay your sub just to play it.

>>171547951
Bray-Shamans really aren't worth it. They just get fucked up by that event at the worst possible times. Stick to Gorebulls.

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>>171547182
>like the real ones
What do you know that we don't anon

>>171544145
They're not.
They're unarmored and have no armor piercing so you should be able to figure it out from there.

>>171547164
>The art in AoC is weak
your bait is weak

>>171548043
wow i guess its okay they churn out $20 DLC for one faction because you spent a lot of time on CSS how enlightening

>>171548650
"period" artwork is a lazy excuse to get your kid to do the fucking art for buildings.

>>171548669
My point is that it was a long time coming and you're kind of a fag if you just keep whining about it.

>>171548824
wow anon that sure convinced me suddenly doubling the price of DLC was a long time coming because CSS gave you good value

>>171549134
Thats it anon, fight the system! How is your campaign against overpriced dlc going by the way? Has anyone from the industry replied to your harshly worded emails yet?

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Playing on Legendary

Will they ever attack or are they bitches? Been a few turns.

>>171549134
i kind of want to shove you in a locker and steal your lunch money

>>171548669
Yes, it is ok. You're paying $20 for $20 of content. If you don't want to own that $20 of content you're perfectly entitled to not spend your $20 on it.

>>171549217
I doubt you could even keep eye contact with me based on how much semen you slurp.

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hay /twg/

TW:A is running pretty slowly for me. I'm running all graphics settings on Performance, but it seems to have only a marginal effect as battles tend to drop down to the 20-30fps range during melee.

Thanks in advance.

PS: feels edition when?

>be beastmen
>tree hitler chases me all the way from castle Caresonne to Reikland
Mother of Khorne, I dont want anything with you tree humping fuckers

>>171548117
I get him because of -15% building costs and it's been very useful for early game

>>171549486
are unit sizes on lowest as well?

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>>171547783
Dark elves and (if implemented similar to lore) Skaven, since they easily flooded dwarves out of their strongholds by attacking them with chemical weapons, and poison-wind mortars and globadiers, warpfire throwers, etc (pic related, a poison-wind globadier)

>>171549291
I'm a girl, i'm supposed to mongle dongs.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>171549736
Dark elves? Howso?

>>171549583
I always play on ultra. Might as well not play TW otherwise.

>>171549736

>Dark Elves flooded dwarves with poison

when?

>>171548708
>"period" artwork is a lazy excuse
truly worst taste

>>171549867
sorry I meant high-elves.

Dark elves started and planted the seeds for the war of the beards (the war between the high elves and dwarves), the high elves defeated the dwarves in most open battles soundly but could not penetrate their strongholds.

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MEN

YOU WILL HOLD THIS LINE, WHATEVER COMES FROTHING AT US IN THIS FINAL WAVE

>>171550327
To me it seems only a select few races can really breach a dwarven stronghold. Skaven, Gobbo orientated greenskin armies, Ogres and other dwarves, the rest seem like you could just lock the doors on.

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Each of you will die alone for what you've done

>>171550464
o7 ;_;

>>171550464
I have a bad feeling about group 5.

>consistent 44% success chance on assasination
>fails 4 times in a row
>not even savescumming
what did I do to deserve this

>>171550762
>Turn 36.
Holy shit. Do they come earlier at higher difficulty? Or did you and Leoncoeur piss them off?

>>171550464
>crossbowers without ammo
gg no re
upload replay once you are done

>>171551759
I've encountered much worse. Something like 56% failing half a dozen times in a row.

There's some kind of hidden modifier. It happens far too often for it to be simple coincidence.

>>171551837
Sorry, I didn't save it. Should have done so in hindsight.

>>171551814
I didn't do shit to them, but the sacrifice of my single army neutered 3 of theirs and caused a fourth to flee from the siege of Marienburg.

>>171550147
WHEN IT'S SHIT?

Period artwork is usually great. The fucking scribbles that represent buildings in AoC is not good, and it's definitely not good just because it fits the period.

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>>171526113
Wait WHAT

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AHAHAHA BUNCHA WEENIES

>>171553032
What?

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>>171525149

How do i get better at strategy? I always feel lost in battles, especially big ones. I try to line up roman style and i don't think that works for every faction.

Just always try to hammer and anvil them? I'm familiar with most classical strategies, just when you throw monsters and shit into the mix it really screws things up.

>>171553565
What even determines when these fucks want a peace treaty? I've gone through genociding them and they don't want shit.

>>171554328
Think he is referring to Tilea owning Drakenhof.

>>171554443
i like the Famas but i just get a hardon for French military tech, it really just boils down to personal preference and if you need to snipe or not.

>>171554734
whoops wrong tab response
just kill me

Kislev when?

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>>171555025
Same time as pic related.
NEVER

>>171554443
There's no big wonder to it, just learn the rock-paper-scissors of the unit types and try to get as many individual favorable situations in a battle as you can. The "hammer" (i.e. big monstrous units or cavalry) essentially exists to turn unfavorable situations around, either by speeding up the opponent's defeat in otherwise favorable fights, thus freeing up the "anvil" units to help out in less favorable ones, or by slamming into unfavorable fights repeatedly to change the flow.

You could think of artillery, archers and skirmish troops as a "hammer" of their own, just that it has less of a shock factor than a devastating cavalry charge in exchange for being ranged and creating a factor of attrition on the battlefield for the enemy instead.
It's about equally unpleasant to have the entirety of a hellblaster volley gun ammo reserve emptied into your squads as it is to have them charged by demigryphs several times.

tl;dr create favorable situation with and for your anvil, exploit enemy weaknesses with the hammer

>>171554734
Famas is a shit-tier gun anyway
AK-101 4 lyf

Why are Dwarf players so looked down upon?

>>171555447

They're short.

>>171555552
DELET THIS NOW

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>>171555552
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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>>171555552

>>171555447
>alright time for my complex strategy
>I'll put a warmachine at the back
>and then ranged units in front of that
>and then infantry in front of that
>now I need to move as little as possible

Brilliant

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>>171550327
>the high elves defeated the dwarves in most open battles soundly

>>171555636
>He wastes money on ranged units in ladder
Why???

>>171555705
FUCK YOU MIDGET!

GIB BACK RIGHTFUL FEENIX CROWN!

>>171550507
>be empire
>blow the fucking doors open
>????

>be orcs
>bring some giants
>knock the doors down

etc

>sandwich a unit of grave guard between two units of swordsmen
>necro casts nehek on it
>I literally don't kill a single one

Ah yes

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recommended attila mods?

>>171555824
You've never read up on any of the lore, I see.

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>>171556153

Hey mr. Lore can you tell me why bretonnians hold their shields upside down?

>>171556231
It's a mystery for the ages.

>>171556153
I'm not gonna argue what has been done vs what's possible ya nerd

Dorfs are dumb, and probably gays too

>>171556369
t. Gobbo.

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Sigmar forgive me for visiting reddit

So, from my extensive research into this general thread, I assume we're in consensus that Orcs and Gobbos are WAAAGH bros for life, and that Greenskins are in fact the superior race?

>>171556606
>TruCanadian1234
A
FUCKING
LEAF

>>171556668
Incorrect. Gobbos are supreme. Orcs should be slaves. Skarsnik and Grom the Paunch are the greatest greenskins to ever exist.

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>>171556606

>TruCanadian1234

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>>171556727

Fuck you /twg/ I'm going to main Dwarfs forever and you can't stop me from having fun with HIGH skill level gyrocoppter kiting and ranger ambushes. With fun lords that have a wide variety of play styles and fun factor without relying on shitty magic.

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>>171556668
Gobbos and orcs iz good m8s :)
get ya daggers out boyz

>>171556231
so they can rest them in the mud
if they put the pointy end in the mud, they get stuck all the time

>>171556606
kek'd

>>171556821

Best explanation so far, they are dumb peasants.

But shit, even a peasant should know which end of a plow-blade means business.

>>171556231
Better protection for legs.

How do you feel about gobbo archers?

>>171557014
>even a peasant should know which end of a plow-blade means business
but m'lord those are shields not plows

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>>171557109
They make me slightly flustered

>>171557090
At the expense of their heads/upper torso?

>>171557109

they makin me angery

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>>171557109
I love them.

I'd take them above Black Orcs any day of the week.

>>171557185
Skaven, Dwarfs and gobbos

>>171556231
Canonical reason? Because Brettonian peasants are dumb as rocks. That's the reason why Men-at-arms shields a symmetrical, so there's no way they could hold them wrong.

>>171556231
they are not properly trained and don't know how to hold them

>>171557373

I do love the subtle humor in Warhammer.

So are the bretonninans Britons, french, or both?

>>171557419
Normans

>>171557419
they are norman ruled england

>>171557419
France united by Bretons instead of Parisans.

>>171557559
Nah, Britain is Albion - a misty island populated by rock worshipping cavemen with a lizard outpost somewhere in it. Brettonia is just France with focus on Breton folklore.

>>171557672
>english peasants
>ruled by french nobles

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>Fat, loud and obnoxious
>Appropriate the superficial aspects of other cultures as their own.
>Led by a retarded rich guy.

Are Ogres the americans of WHFB?

>>171557719
Giving them a british accent is responsibility of CA, hardly a canonical source. Still, it's warhammer, so canon is a very murky thing. If you wanna think of them this way then it's perfectly fine.

>>171557819
Dark Elves are the americans of WHFB.

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>>171557719

>french background
>english voice

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>>171557819

>Go round fighting in other peoples wars
>Obsessed with guns
>Owns a slave race

It checks out

>>171557907

Nah, they're the empire trying to keep teeming masses of chaotic fantasists at bay.

Allahu Akbar! (Blood for the Blood God!)

>>171555824
>Giant
To do what? Get shot to death?
>empire
Thats evem more retarded, even if they did get in they wouldnt know the fuck to do with themselves, cant use offensive strategies and formations in that kinda place.

>>171557819
>best faction
>spends their time annoying china
>invades everyone for da burger
>if they get too stronk they make not-europe irrelevant

Checks out.

>>171557819
Only if britland is skaven

>>171557819
But is there a greedy, big-nosed race constantly manipulating them for their own ends?

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pretty neat desu.

>>171558064
>WE HAD TERRITORY ALL OVER THE WORLD, WE RULE IT, REEEEE

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>>171558203
Hmmmm

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SUPREME RULER OF EIGHT PEAKS

>>171537802
Goblins have "favoured enemies".

>>171558203
Waitaminute..

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>>171558203
>>171558232

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>>171558298
DAT'Z A STABBIN'

>>171558298

Badlands with Welf trees everywhere looks surprisingly comfy

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>>171558519
yeah, countless dead orcs, regular gobbos and the bearded variants fertilize the ground

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The Archon wants me to fuck barbar shit up.
I concur.

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Battle for Sardinia has started, the final embers of the once mighty Carthage will be put out today

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God I hate the late game. As far as I'm concerned I won the campaign two days ago, spending the rest of time grinding down fucking vampires, vikings and elves - the only surviving factions. Why do orcs even have to take those shitty fucking dwarfholds on the border of Chaos Wastes to achieve victory?
I hope in the future CA reworks campaign victory conditions to be more like Brettonians and beastmen - you do things, eliminate needed factions, do the final quest battle and then you win. At least it ends the campaign on a high note instead of just requiring you to run around and capture fucking dwarfholds for two goddamn days while everyone around you declares war for no reason and razes your shit while completely ignoring you sieging down their fucking capital. I even gave money to the fucking elves, big piles of dosh to keep them from annoying me, but they still went at it.

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As winter blankets the land the satrapal armies finally corner the scythians marauding in transoxania. Battle is about to be joined.

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>>171559041
>I even gave money to the fucking elves, big piles of dosh to keep them from annoying me, but they still went at it.

Honestly this shouldn't be surprising you.

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the barbaroi form up and begin to act autistically as is their wont.

>>171559041
You don't have to fulfill the victory conditions you know? The campaign is done when you decide it is.

God damnit /twg/, why are the dawi and Empire campaigns the only two that actually hold my interest?

>>171559487
Because they're objectively the best factions.

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>>171559316
I just want the legendary achievement with Wurrzag. It is rare that I get a good start with him and the campaign was very fun up until the Chaos died and I was left with Vampires, Tilea, Elves and Vikings sending waves of stacks at me, none of them wanting to make peace, even when they are down to last town. Tilea was eliminated yesterday, today I just killed the Vampires, Elves and Vikings are on the chopping block (as soon as I build up my army back again, Viking fuckers swooped in with 6 stacks right after I killed Vampires and took down 2 of my main stacks).
Another thing I hate is overabundance of attrition (that AI all but ignores).

>>171559246
Yeah, those fucks probably used the money I gave them to build up their army, that was a big mistake.

>>171559487
Empire I can understand, they are fun as fuck, but Dorfs? Unless you meant Belegar, the dorf campaign is just map painting simulator. Even with Belegar it eventually becomes one.

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our cavalry picks off barbaroi bands that have strayed too far away even as our infantry boxes them in.

>>171559487
Empire and beastmen are the two best factions.

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the casualties among the tribesmen are griveous but it is no big loss, there are many more where they come from.

>>171559487
I don't know how anyone can enjoy playing as the dwarves, its not only incredibly easy, its also boring, because all you do is passively watch your near-invincible soldiers blow orcs to smithereens

>recruit gorebull with clumsy trait (+attack and +chance of getting assassinated)
>some agent wounds him next turn

Anyway I like how there's offensive and defensive variants of almost every beastmen units. Is speccing heavily into attack bonus to make a meat grinder army that blow through all sort of moving things viable?

>>171560078
Yes, kinda. Just take two gorebulls and spec both into different specs. As far as gors are concerned it's more about how much you value vanguard deployment. If you are relying on minotaurs then vanguard deployment becomes less meaningful, since those guys don't have it. Ambushes make vanguard deployment irrelevant too.

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the barbarian chieftain and his retinue, clad in lamellar charge into our lines in a brave but foolish display of courage. His men have long since fled the field.

>>171560240
>>171560078
Oh, and also it's about how much you like autoresolve. Obviously normal gors perform better in autoresolve battles than shield ones.

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as winter turns to spring we turn out attention to the barbaroi that plague our westernmost towns. With them dead, we will have secured the satrapy against the most pressing of the scythians that roll down from the eternal sea of grass.

>>171527361
Did you guys know that the spandau was bad because it had too MANY bullets? That decreases accuracy.

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the barbaroi are camped on the top of the hill.
Our losses will be severe.

>>171560529
>Obviously normal gors perform better in autoresolve battles than shield ones.
That always struck me as completely counter-intuitive.

On the other hand, I never bothered to find out why and how to exploit autosresolve to the max anyway.

>>171560883
why do we regurgitate shit from last year?

>>171561028
They have vanguard deployment and shield gors don't, that's it really.

>>171561113
Well, if the Spandau was that good, then why didn't Germany win WW2? Don't you know you only gain ground if the weapons are better?

DUH

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>random beastmen tribe showed up
>set up NAP so I can coop with them
>somehow their strength rank was 2nd
>they be like "lulz ur 3week5us" and rejected my nap
>while only have 8/20 army
>proceeded to attack nearby capital and got obligated
>mfw
At least I don't get to babysit these retards, all good.

>>171560240
I forgot there can be 2 gorebulls in a single army to attack effect. And yeah I have at least 2 minotaurs do vanguard don't do me much good

is there a mod that shows units hp damage caused rather than kills?

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as the sun goes down, the enemy chief falls in combat thus destroying his ragtag band of marauders.
the day is ours.

>>171561457
NAP and any positive diplomatic deal for that matter will give you a long debuff to bestial rage.

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battle report lads

first army had 1 unit heavy cav, 1 unit african elephants, they pushed into me but I made the elephants run amok into their own lines, their left flank smashed into my right but I pushed through on the left and routed them then swung back to finish off the leftovers of the first army

2nd army came in from the east and luckily my men weren't engaged long enough to be tired, re-formed a long line with 2 in reserve
2nd carthaginian army had a unit of artillery and 8 skirmishers, all my pila were depleted and my skirmishers non-existant so I had to drive through their skirms with my general, kill the arty and return, then in a holding fashion I pushed up like a flight of stairs on the right to drive off the right side skirms, peeled off 2 units on the right and to the middle to push in

my army was looking like it was going to break when the carthaginians not committed decided to run away and I finished off the ones engaging my men

hard fight but roma victa