/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

FIRST FOR ISRAEL

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>Ashen-Anon? What are you doing back there?

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>OP webm
DELET NOW

is it worth my time to do a SL1 run in DaS3? in the first 2 I can see the merit, but so much shit 2-shots you in DaS3 that I don't actually see the point, it's just going to be me getting 1-shot by literally everything past a certain point

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>>171408231
>132 souls
>not even embered
I wonder how many tries did it take to make this ebic webm.

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Guys is it possible to for Grave Warden Agdayne to die permanently if I summon him for Velstadt boss fight?

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>>171408389

>>171408441
I mean, there is no point in having hp when hes going to be low anyhow.

You will get answers to questions, but not the important ones.

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>>171408487

>>171408464
no

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

I love Dragonsis. I really do.

>>171408634
I miss the gravelord greatsword.

>>171408441
It's one parry. How many times can you fail a single parry on an opening attack that he does every time.

>>171408741

we're getting it in TRC

>>171408741
So do I Anon, so do I.

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Hi. My name is Skra and this is my first build.

I started playing Dark Souls Oct 11, 2016. I wanted to role play this game as a knight for no other reason than I like the way knight armor looks. I realize that there are better defensive options. It seems to me that new players almost always tend to make a Giant Dad and I want to do something different. This build is what I have ended up with.

While learning this game, I realized that the Claymore has TWO thrust attacks: a one-handed thrust attack and a rolling two-handed thrust attack. So, whether I’m one-handing or two-handing my Claymore, the Leo Ring bonus damage would always be available to me. It occurred to me that the Leo Ring would go with my build nicely considering that I'm fast rolling in medium armor.

With Charcoal Pine Resin applied and the Leo Ring counter bonus triggered, my one-handed R2 thrust attack does 820 damage against the Cleric in the Darkroot Garden. My two-handed rolling thrust attack does 836 damage against him. The Leo Ring aside, stabbing the Cleric in the back one-handed yields 884 damage, a two-handed backstab yields 901 damage and Riposte is 1048 damage (I used the Cleric for testing because he heals himself). With the Green Blossom and the Grass Crest Shield regenerating my stamina, I rarely find myself unable to use my rolling thrust attack. It's just always there.

I've read in the forums that the contemporary quality build is 27/40 because of the two-handed bonus for strength, but I wanted to make certain that my one-handed thrust attack did as much damage as efficiently possible because the damage bonus granted by the Leo Ring is percentage based. Also, since my two-handed thrust attack requires rolling, I had to figure out a way to get my equipment burden below 25% so that I could fast roll without being too squishy because my vitality is so low.

So, my first build is finished. This is it. It's my Veteran Knight and I love it.
>http://mmdks.com/8ijr

>>171408817
sauce or end youself for giving hope.

i want to die

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>>171408389
>>171408487
>>171408553

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>>171408854

>>171408902
Me too anon, but I'll stay alive and hope something happens

>>171408774
Enough to only have 132 souls on the counter I guess, so at least once.

>>171408854
Veteran K***ht was too good for this world

It's been almost a year and DaS3 is still garbage.
Fuck Miyasucky.

>>171408854
Is this pasta

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FC PC Lothric Castle - 1st Bonfire.
pass: dsg

>>171408570
Appreciated fàm

>>171409701
My FUCKING DICK
holy shit

>>171409701

Is this a new speedrun strat?

did anything else about TRC bosses and/or plotlines get leaked after the infodump on Feb 8?

Would some anon in here have some HQ picture(s) of Souls bonfire ? I'm going to draw one on my phone case but I can't find any good references

>>171409471
Haven't played the game in six months. Are you telling me the caestus is still the best parrying tool? baka From.

>>171409938
Not that I can think of
They accidentally revealed the stats of the DLC gear involved with the preview, which is in the OP, but that's about it.

They're super hush-hush about everything past the first boss. So far all we've seen of it is the stuff in the gameplay trailer and a leaked screenshot of a muddy swamp field-thing.

WHERE DO I GO

TO FIND /dsg/ LEWD IMAGES?

>>171410075
I hope we fight the pygmy and loot the Dark Soul off of his corpse

rather, whatever remains of the Pygmy's original Dark Soul after distributing it among people

>>171409701
Does Yhorm do a toast gesture just before dying ? Never saw him do that before.

>>171410169
>I hope we fight the pygmy

Nah I hope not

>>171410174
That's his death animation for dying via riposte, which most people never see because they just kill him with stormruler. Every ripostable boss has a special death animation for it, even Oceiros.

It does kinda look like he's doing the toast gesture, though. Nice catch.

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look at me

i'm looking slicK

>>171410169
hey the pygmy is just a manlet. You can rape him like you rape firekeepers

>>171410164
>>>/aco/1212833

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>>171407831
It just keeps happening

>>171410250
Anon, we're going to visit the Pygmy's home town, where he originally lived with the first generation of humans. What makes you think that we WON'T fight him?

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Are sorceries still bad? I haven't made a sorcerer yet and want to know how viable it is PvE and PvP?

>>171410318
>not enough strength to wield spider shield

N-NANI

>>171410506
Because the pygmy is just some easily forgotten turbo manlet. Maybe we find his corpse or something, but i don't want some generic """epic"""" fight

>>171410508
It trivializes PVE if you build for it and can be decent in brawls

It sucks ass in duels

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>>171410169
>rather, whatever remains of the Pygmy's original Dark Soul after distributing it among people

>kill pygmy
>"examine"
>short cutscene where the player draws a small, glowing black sliver out of his corpse
>"progenial humanity"

What could be done with it, though?

>>171410356
thank you based friend

Reminder that the sun is the First Flame, made out of it by Gwyn, and the dinky bonfire is what's "linked" to it.

I'm not even making that shit up. It's written on the titanite slab in Norse runes some jackass looked up.

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>>171410356
hey, that's my thread

>>171410884
>I'm not even making that shit up. It's written on the titanite slab in Norse runes some jackass looked up.

[link needed]

>>171410884

actually the sun is a parasitic monster stealing the souls of humans to keep itself alive.

>>171409948
Someone pls

>>171410990
That said, it would be seriously cool of the runes on slabs actually meant something and weren't just gibberish to fill space.

I loved how Hyperlight Drifter did that.

what would you think if the pygmy turned out to be a divine royal ruler of the ringed city before gwyn was even a king, and one of the most historically influential people of all time? and you never find out who he is or even what his name was.

>>171409701
flynn's ring
pontiff damage eye
red memestone ring
lightning clutch ring
+
carthus bacon
+
lightning blade
+
moron blade
+
99 str, dex, luck, faith
+
hollow sellswords

>>171410804
>Soul of the Pygmy, Lord of Darkness
>The Furtive Pygmy bequeathed most of his power to the race of Man, and served as the wellspring of the Deep, but even so, the Furtive Pygmy's soul is a powerful thing indeed

>Deep Tsunami
>Dark Miracle born from the remnant soul of the Pygmy.

>Conjure forth a crushing tidal wave of stagnant, gentle humanity.

>The Dark embraces all with a peaceful stillness akin to death, and long-forgotten tales of the first humans describe them overwhelming their foes with the power of this gentle decay. But who is to say that this is not a mercy?

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>>171410945
>draw a loli
>make her not a loli
Why scas has to be a shit?

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>>171409948
>>171411320

>>171410508

Makes PVE easy. In PVP, Sorceries have to compliment something. If you go in only doing spells, you're ancient history.

>>171411549
>a stagnant, gentle, crushing tidal wave
Your adjectives suck.

>>171410804
turn it into climax

it requires 4 attunement slots and needs a minimum of 200 fp to cast but it does 2k damage

>>171411595
Thanks!

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>>171410945
painter is not for lewd

>>171411629
it's the kind of yandere embrace that insists on itself

>>171410945
painter is NOT for sexual

>>171410990
fextralife com / the-blacksmiths-tale-deciphering-runes-in-dark-souls-3 /

You could have tried for two seconds to search "titanite slab translation". They're just runes uncreatively flipped upside down.

>>171410804
>short cutscene plays
>draw out the item
>suddenly hear anguished, orphan-like shriek
>boss healthbar returns
>shriveled, hollow, and now humanityless corpse of the Pygmy comes at you, naked and unarmed, like an absolute madman
>fights like the orphan, but using its fists and legs instead of a weapon

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>>171411549
Could also be used to manufacture a unique weapon from a selected class. Maybe something like this, where the weapons would be solid darkness with shimmering white outlines. Fairly typical movesets but each could have a unique weapon art?

>>171411205
I'm feeling Poe's law in full effect here.

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Do someone have the Vicar VS Bloodshade picture ? Something about vicar playing on shit pc with powerwolf and sabaton blasting through the speakers

>>171411906
>You could have tried for two seconds to search "titanite slab translation".

And you could have taken 2 seconds to put the link in the post that you took the time to make. You also could've posted an accurate paraphrasing instead of headcanon.

>The Sun (Gwyn and his allies/army) ended this conflict.

What happened to Frampt?

>>171412372
final boss of dlc

>summon a dude for a bossfight
>we gesture, he doesn't actually move from his summon-in spot
>I start bossfight
>he doesn't follow
>Phantom SerGhost has returned home
>try to send him a message asking if he got the bug where you can't enter the bossfog
>cannot send a message to this player because of their settings
Did my character so offend him he decided not to help and then block me?

>>171411926
I think that it will be a spell to parallel how Gwyn's soul made a spell and also dark magic needs more love

or perhaps you won't be able to transmute it at all, and it will be a key item that you have to give to the Painter for her pigment

>>171412445

he was probably on the shitter when you summoned him

>>171412372
Died of intestinal clogging from eating the CU's spare weapons and armors.

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>>171408854
>mfw there's probably someone out there that actually is this autistic

>>171412708
He did gesture back though. He bowed.

>>171410318
DS1 truly is aesthetic

>>171412859

Maybe a sudden hit of explosive diarrhea

>>171412321
>They found a spark (Lord Souls in the first flame) which turned into a Sun, driving away the cold/ice.

So you're not also lazy, but blind, and potentially retarded.

>>171413090
Doesn't explain why I couldn't send him a message...

>>171413194
he's saying that the usage of the word "Sun" refers to Gwyn's power/army, not a literal Sun, which he supports with the line "the Sun (Gwyn and his Army) ended this conflict," which indicates that the word "Sun" isn't talking about a celestial body but rather military might

>>171408854
FTFY:

http://mmdks.com/8kgj

>>171413194
Does that say.
>Reminder that the sun is the First Flame, made out of it by Gwyn, and the dinky bonfire is what's "linked" to it
?
No it doesn't, does it?

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So let me get this straight

>fucking jew snake appears in the Souls equivalent of hell
>tries to meme you into believeing the dark is something good and humans were supposed to be kangz n sheeet before but that evil gods keep opressing him
>there are people who buy into this shit

Can't wait for kaathekeks to get btfo in TRC AGAIN

>>171413625
Hell is Izalith, not the Abyss

would a deprived be the best starting character if I wanted to be able to respec into a variety of builds? this would also be my 100% completion character

>>171411586
s-sauce?

>>171413625
Nah, Lost Izalith is the equivalent of hell [minus the part where you go there after death], the Abyss is infinitely worse.

>>171413670
wtf I love the abyss now

>>171413440
So then Gwyn and his army drove away what? Because the line about the dragons isn't until after. How is his army driving away what is presumably the grey nothing where nothing can live with military might? There's also turned into "a" sun, in a kludgey attempt to differentiate the proper noun of Sun being Gwyn's title of reference, otherwise it'd be "the" Sun on both accounts. There aren't that many actual written words in the language, and it's a pretty primitive one. You can safely infer they're different things, or else the sun would cease to exist after Gwyn bites it.

I wish binoculars had some actual use for spotting things in the distance.

>>171413573
>"turned into a sun"
>when the first flame goes out the sun starts fading and then outright dying
>sun still exists after the Lord of Sunlight is dead and his soul is kindling

The bonfire thing is inference, but otherwise put two and two together. It's a hell of a lot more straightforward than the wild grabassing that the Sun is actually the Darksign or a portal to another world or a giant parasite or whatever the fuck.

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>>171413625

>world is total shit
>somehow just prolonging that shitiness is a solution

Just let it gut out, mate

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>Trying to get the miracles achievement.
>Grind Silver K***hts for five hours to get Darkmoon Blade
>Start farming sunlight medals from invasions for sunlight spear
>Come in to see Aldrich's homing soulmasses lighting up the night like Joe and the doctor.

This is the day after I invade SSJ Shrek having a battle in the sky with Havel. I'm beginning to think I have bad luck with this game.

>>171414102
>>world is total shit
It isn't though. Civilization prospers for hundreds or even thousands of years between every linking

>>171413625
He's also implicitly responsible for Oolacile turning into a hellhole.

It's not exactly like Frampt has your best interests at heart either, since he memed up some story about how ur the chosen one harry and then tries to dupe you into burning for a thousand years.

>>171414102
It's only shit after we need to light the fire though.

How to open door past keep ruins

>>171414237
>grinding silver knights

Why would you do this to yourself? Fuck around in the undead settlement at low level with the blue sentinels equipped and cash the ears in later. Or just hack them.

>>171414384
>and then tries to dupe you into burning for a thousand years.

Frampts and Gwyndolins memes aside, that's a good thing. Not for yourself f course, but for the world

If you block someone, will they still appear in your games if the matchmaking wills it? Will their summon signs show up, etc.?

>>171414059
Not that guy, and not trying to claim some batshit nonsense about giant parasites, but do you really think **The Fire**, responsible for all life, light and heat in the Souls world refers to a 2 foot pile of burning bones? Or is it the giant ball of Fire in the sky literally providing the world with life, light and heat?

>>171414557
No, it refers to an Anor Londo-sized pyre that slowly trickles down to a 2-foot pile of burning bones after countless centuries of dwindling and losing power.

been away for awhile, anyone mind telling me what i missed?

last i remember, we were still complaining about carthus r1, what's the meta like now

>>171414474
You need to find three fires around FK and extinguish them by interacting with them. There's one just outside Keep Ruins behind those three grhus.

>>171414727
Follower sabre is the thing to complain about now.

Honest question to you guys. Do you think the end to TRC is going to have any actual closure for Dark Souls?

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>>171414514

My character was already level 80 when I decided to go for it. That and I feel like hacking them in defeats the purpose of spending hours of my life getting worthless achievement.

>>171410945
Sauce?
Painter is for sexual.

>>171414714
Headcanon. The First Flame is never shown as any larger than an ordinary bonfire outside of the very opening where it contained all souls. It also has a firekeeper's coil stuck into it every time. It's a bonfire you explicitly "link".

>>171414557
Yeah I really think the capital F Fire is the giant ball of fire in the sky that provides life and heat and further defines cold and dark by its presence, and not the shitty bonfire. I think you misread. "They found a spark which turned into a sun" etc.

Runes don't have a lot of nuance. To the best of my knowledge, there aren't really discrete words for sun, sunlight, etc.

>>171414861
Nope. Bamco wanted a quick cash grab, nothing more. I think that is what we will get. Still better than DaS2 though.

>>171414861
No, and that's a gopd thing.

Fuck the faggots who want some 40 minutes lore dump by Gwyn himself while you fight Velka as the last boss because that's totally "epic"

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>>171413625
Indeed, fuck Kaathe.

>>171414886
I just started a lowbie character, got 30 ears in a night, then hacked them onto my almost complete character. Same with swordgrass. I sympathize about working for the cheevos, as pointless as they are. At least the dregs, tongues and shackles you can do at endgame.

>>171414238
>thousands
Hardly. Remember Frampt says he's waited for someone to take over from Gwyn for one thousand years, and the linking isn't likely to get more effective that when Gwyn did it.

>>171411663
>climax deals extra damage based on fp rather than souls

this is actually a wonderful idea

>>171414975
Does your dad work at Nintendo

>>171414714
So why is Gwyn the lord of SUNlight? Why is the sun missing from Anor Londo? Why is Solaire so fussed about finding his own sun? Why does the fire fading in DS3 result in a solar eclipse? Why is the sun draining out of the sky? Why does the fire going out turn the lights off?

Anecdotal or not it seems pretty damn clear to me that the fire we're talking about is either literally or metaphorically the big fire in the sky.

>>171415096
Except for the part where each glug of blue juice is another fully-powered cast

>>171414975
>quick cash grab

The DLCs are set up before the game even releases at this point. Or do you think all the Painted World references were completely coincidental and Bamco demanded a DLC after the game came out?

>>171415093
Even a hundred years is totally worth it

Another question, what is your preferred ending in DaS3?

>>171415193
wasn't a problem in dark souls 2 where each bite of soul nuggets was another fully-powered cast

>>171414238
oh yeah because people are having a REAL good time living under the "civilization" of the WoW and Church of the Deep

>golden summon sign
>of a dude in Ornstein's armour
>wielding the twin dragon greatshield
>and the dark sword
>named "Eric"
If I summon him, will he do nothing but R1? Is this a living meme given form?

>>171415337
end of fire

>>171415229
I think Big M finally caught on to what they wanted and how to quickly deliver it under the unrealistic time and budget given to them by Bamco. The trick to it being that they reuse a lot of assests.

who told miyazaki to fuck up pyromancy in ds3 so badly?
I don't even believe how utter trash it's requirements are now.
Look around in PvP, and what do you see?
Not one pyromancer.

>>171414557
you literally see the First Flame in the opening cutscene of DaS1

>>171415337
End of fire.

>>171415158
Not him, but I thought it was pretty obvious that Gwyn sat by that bonfire in the Kiln because it was linked to the sun and by burning at it it'd keep the sun going. I didn't realize people assumed something else.

>>171415432
>even better, his online ID is FirstnamexxLastname

>>171415361
Because each soul nugget boosted your SM and soul nuggets were limited outside of narrow abuse cases.

Also because you could pull out a small shield with 0.5 weight and 98.9% dark resist and laugh

>>171415432
Not quite, he is a Quasi-Meme. If it was truly a meme given form, it'd be wearing Fallen Knight set and Havel's GS

>>171415337
End of fire is the best one. Most appropriate on a meta level with these games as well.

>>171415158
gwyn is the lord of sunlight because fire = light = life = warmth

>why is the sun missing from Anor Londo
I hope you aren't using that as an argument to back up the "first flame is the Sun" claim, because if it were that would imply that the First Flame was already totally extinguished at the time of DaS1, instead of merely fading

>>171415636
>tfw can pull out a 99.8% dark greatshield and only giggle

>>171415337
unkindled. It's time for a new age of darkness

>>171415476
>>171415568
>>171415663
Do you kill the Firekeeper?

>>171414951
Of course, it totally doesn't spread all over the Kiln of the First Flame and causes a gigantic explosion that expands so much it fills the screen completely at the end of Dark Souls 1

>>171415814
No. I lover her, you see.

>SUNlight spear
>deals lightning damage

Guys I just figured it out, the sun is literally made of lightning, nobody ever thought about this before I'm a fucking genius, remember to link the channel and donate to my patreon.

>>171415158
Gwyn is one Lord of four.

>>171415814
that's the only correct course of action. First you rape her then you kill her because fire is bad

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>>171415337
Lord of Homos or Usurpation. Both end of fire and linking of the fire are for fags who think they're doing good but in fact aren't.

>>171415337
Dark Lord is the cannon path so I guess that one.

>>171415337
Fire isn't working anymore, just let it end.

>>171415998
firefags are causing the endless cycle of suffering to continue. You are supposed to take the fire for your own power or let it extinguish

>>171415337
KILL FIREKEEPER

>>171416151
>endless cycle of suffering to continue
Yeah that's life, m8. Gotta problem with it, kill yourself.

>>171416095
>Fire isn't working anymore, just let it end.
this is bullshit, you just need stronger kindling

Do we know how to enter the DLC yet??

How close do you think the fire needs to be from going out before shit starts getting fucked?

Like do you think undead are appearing centuries before things get urgent or is it only like the last decades that are bad?

>>171413625
Dark fags just want to feel special. There the series cancers. Dick Wraiths.

>>171415563
Have you watched it again while considering the idea that they're trying to be cute about the fire being sun? The intro shows a shit load of fire peeking over the horizon without directly showing what it is.
I believe Souls uses an old world view of the universe, where objects in the sky are close to us, far away lands might as well be a different universe, and the world is flat with different layers. Think Norse creation myths or early christian ideas, but instead of being mythology this world view is actually real. So the Dark Souls sun would be more of a localised ball of fire over our heads. BB uses the same idea for cosmic horror.

How do you get the curse of the undead?
What does the fire have to do for that happen?
If you want everyone to stay undead what ending do you take?

>>171416229
then why did you kill the only thing keeping it alive, you dork?

>>171416397
It doesn't matter and you're not supposed to think about it. That's the answer to almost all the empty spaces of detail with this shit.

>>171416397
You get the impression that the undead curse appears pretty early in the decline.

I mean, after all, places like the Undead Burg/Parish look like they've been ruined for a long time. More than a lifetime, at least. And you have to think that there was probably quite a long period between the undead curse appearing and completely overtaking their kingdom.

Drangleic also dealt with the Undead Curse during its reign and it definitely didn't collapse recently going by the degree to which its decayed.

>>171415408
Yes, let's just disregard the thousands of years before them.

>struggle and conflict is le bad!

>>171415998
>>171416151
>Kaatheshits still exists

Do you never get tired of getting btfo

>>171409758
FC PC still going at Lothric Castle 1st Bonfire.

>>171416151
Ill taxt that over Cthulhu apocalypse

>>171416447
The concept of being alive and dead only exists because the Flame exists. The fire only has to be weak for it to become unable to maintain the disparity over the whole world, which is when Undead start appearing. If you want as many undead as possible, you probably choose link the fire in 3, because that doesn't really fixes things and the Fire just keeps in terminal condition

>>171416447
>how do you get curse of undead
dichotomy of life vs death becomes so weak that it can no longer hold you back and you are released from it forever

>why does the fire fade for this to happen
disparity is born of fire, and as it fades disparate concepts (like life vs death) fade with it

>if you want everyone to stay undead what ending do you pick
Lord of Hollows

>>171414824
Thank you

>>171416024
Why do you fags always meme about the worst ending being "canon"

>>171416959
Since undead are immortal and can stay sane and powerful as long as they have a reason to live, it's like a blessing of immortality.
But you still need bonfires to heal, so it makes sense that you need the fire at terminal condition at least. But if you link it, doesn't it get rejuvenated? That's counter productive.

>>171417043
Do bonfires still exist if you extinguish the fire?
Where do undead respawn if the bonfires are extinguished?

>>171415850

Well the sun is basically plasma and lightning generates plasma in the atmosphere sooo.....

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Preorder dropped

>>171417202
>Do bonfires still exist if you extinguish the fire?
probably not, because when the first flame dies fire everywhere also dies

>where do Undead respawn if bonfires are extinguished
the Undead respawn wherever they consider "home." for most Undead, "home" is the last bonfire they sat at, but this isn't necessarily true

>>171417239
>dead person
Fucking spoiler alert, dammit.

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>>171415850

>sun creates light
>light and dark are extreme opposites
>positive and negative electrical charges are extreme opposites
>lightning is created when the opposite forces charge back together

>>171415712
>I hope you aren't using that as an argument to back up the "first flame is the Sun" claim.
You're taking it the wrong way. The sun missing from Anor Londo doesn't mean the sun doesn't exist. We know the sun is still around because we see it from other locations. If you assume early ideas about creation and the layout of the universe you can explain Anor Londo's missing sun with the idea of the sun actually being much smaller and closer than it is in real life.

The sun missing from Anor Londo is then alluding to the fact that Gwyn has left the city, and his big light has left with him. Which is a very sensible explanation for why breaking the illusion doesn't make it night time anywhere else. It wouldn't just be time fuckery because it's not implied that Anor Londo has any kind of day/night cycle. It had eternal sunlight, now it has eternal moonlight, and the rest of the game world doesn't seem to care.

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>estocs can cut
>mail-breakers can cut
>rapiers can't
>estocs are worse when two-handed
>rapiers weigh less than longswords
>longswords are worse when two-handed
>sabers are worse when one-handed
>katanas are longer than longswords
>katanas' best attack is a thrusting attack
>the coolest looking axe head is on a tiny hatchet for ignorant slaves

>>171417492
"dark souls is a very realistic videogame," said no one.

>>171416507
To absorb it's power. That's the reason why you go to hunt the lords in the first place.

>>171416397
>>171416447

I don't think even Memezacki himself formed an answer to this question. The lore of Dark Souls fell apart after the first game because he built the lore of the first game to be vague on purpose but still somehow conclusive in it's own. If DS3 had launched right after DS1, it would've been plausible to assume that Miyazaki actually had some master plan for the story to be played across multiple games but as much as the lorefags like to create theories on the lore of the games using the locations of the items and enemies as evidence, From makes the gameplay first, THEN start making up the story justification for it.

As much it's praised widely for it's story and the deep lore, Dark Souls has less commitment to internal consistency than Sonichu because Souls borne isn't Miyazaki's vision alone, he works closely with 7 directors who give him ideas that he approves or disapproves or gives feedback on and as said, they create the gameplay first and then work on the story justifications. That's also why the gameplay mechanics of the various games like have absolutely no real story justification hecause they arbitrarily change them from game to game.

>>171417492
Dragonslayer's Axe looks pretty good too.

>>171417492
in game "longswords" are arming swords.
>>171417742
and yet you're still too weak

I want a metal gauntlet fist weapon i can block with and shoot cannonballs out of using the weapon art which can only be used in the left hand and cannot be two handed

>lightning spear
>Deals 50% damage at range
This is my only complaint about faith too, I just want to chuck some spears that are worth the fp. Lightning stake already exists so why make lightning spears only effective at point blank?

>>171417742
I remember some interview where he said that there IS an answer for most things, but he took a lot from the games on purpose.

It may be bullshit, but I believe it. I think he also mentioned how worldbuilding is one of his hobbies

>>171417851
Sounds like a Bloodborne thing.

>>171417492
Katanas' best attacks against armor would indeed be thrusting attacks.

>>171418023
It's not like ranged spears are terrible. Last time I did a fth playthrough, basic lightning spear did as much damage at range as an R1 from my greatsword. That's enough damage to be worth throwing, especially to draw singular enemies, finish something off or what have you. It's not FP-efficient enough to be spammable ranged DPS but it certainly didn't feel worthless.

I like that DaS3 faith isn't just sorcery with recoloured soul arrows. You have the option to deal damage at range but not DPS, and that's how it should be.

>>171417851
Just use a crossbow with exploding bolts.

>>171416386
"The Dark Sign cannot be in the sky" is what I was told at PAX east

This means Emma cannot have teleported you and at least one of the three Lords of cinder just be alive.

They expect you to be in NG+ before starting the DLC, since it's quote "intended for players around level 125"

super weird design decision, and I was getting this "you'll have to figure out how to get there yourself" vibe from the BN rep.

>>171418373
>"The Dark Sign cannot be in the sky" is what I was told at PAX east
FUCK

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So what the fuck defines what does "standard" damage or slash damage? what's the fucking difference between "standard" damage and slash damage? what the fuck is "standard" damage to begin with?

>>171418348
DS3 Faith is the best it's ever been other than release version DS2.

Can anyone give me advice on how to stat my character if I were to try doing a playthrough using Lothric's holy sword?

I've heard it's not a good weapon but I really like how it looks

>>171418373
>They expect you to be in NG+ before starting the DLC, since it's quote "intended for players around level 125"

You've got to be shitting me.

Guess I'm going to get fucking rekt on my lvl 90 dudes

>>171417618
Unrealistic stuff like big fuck off machetes and hammers are cool, unrealistic stuff like looking like a retard swinging your saber two handed isn't. Also you can't do zorro slicing and dicing with rapiers like any reasonable person would want to.
>>171418497
"standard" damage is when strfags do slicing attacks, "slash" is when dexfags do it.

>>171418497
standard is chops. when splitting wood, you deal standard damage. when slicing tomatoes, you deal slash damage

>>171418497
cutting force applied to a surface horizontally, think of an axe or cleaver

a slash is a cutting force that uses downward motion to tear apart

thrust is force applied over a very small area

strike is a Force applied over a large area

>>171418029
The best way to make a game which alludes to a greater hidden story and rich history, is to just write a greater hidden story and rich history, use it as the basis for a game, and then never tell anybody what it is. If you're not given enough puzzle pieces to reverse engineer the lore, then you can only speculate. A lot of the speculation is going to be wild nonsense, but that doesn't mean tiny details in the game weren't informed by a detailed backstory that we haven't been told about.

>>171418373
BN US didn't know the entrance location at the time PAX was happening. Their main reps told press straight up "it's not yet finalized so we can't say anything" because "we want to ensure the final location will be suitable for players that did not purchase DLC1"

I know you're just weaving bullshit to be "that kid" because you're genuinely autistic and want attention, but since I know there were people itt who probably actually went to PAX, I figure I should tell them that any bamco rep giving out any information beyond what we already know and have had released officially is bullshitting just as hard as you.

>>171418468
>>171418373

This lends some minor credence to my earlier hunch that The Ringed City will affect the ending of DS3 either by directly altering it, adding a 5th ending or a whole new way of finishing the game.

Maybe The Ringed City is how the Darksign sky ends up being in the first place.

>>171418714

But curved sword attacks are as horizontal/vertical as straight swords yet they deal slash damage when swords deal standard

>>171418348
no that's not how it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be spammable dps. You cuck

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>>171417851
So pretty much the bb cannon, save for the blocking part?

>>171410295
Man why is there no one that has made a video on all bosses death animations

>>171418348
Early offensive faith is bad on purpose specifically because they don't want faith to be recoloured magic. Faith gets healing, that's its identity. For most casual players and anybody doing co-op, early healing is very useful.

say what you like about dark souls but it does justify gameplay of the player dying and respawning.
Other games can't justify you coming back to life after death because they have permanent death

>>171418810
thankfully im not press, and I also didn't even ask "so how do we get to the DLC"

a made a snide remark like "too bad there won't be a cool way to get into the dreg heap. probably just be forced to teleport there haha." and he just blurted that shit out randomly.

for ds2, what is a good early game dex weapon that doesn't have bleed and isn't the rapier or estoc?

DaS3 pyro or DaS3 miracles?

>>171419101
Why would they have fireballs though? They don't seem to distinguish themselves much either.

Would anyone on PC be able to help me with the Crystal Sage boss. I'm running a sorcery build and I've been doing alright until this asshole.

>>171419164
both are worse than they've ever been.
Offensive miracles are shit and pyromancy has FAI and INT requirements

>>171419147
Estoc is a strength weapon.

Try using the scimitar.

>>171418896
Swords are implied to be fairly blunt, with the force being a splitting force like a wedge. Curved swords are implied to be a sharp slicing edge which cuts skin. Realism need not apply.

>>171419252
Sure. PW dsg. Sign down at crux wood bonfire

>>171418739
It feels like DeS was the testbed for this style of storytelling but they were really straightforward about the main gimmick of the story (and in fact the entire main story), leaving the vagueness to side lore.

Then DS1 went really far in the complete opposite direction, being super cague about everything.

Bloodborne achieved a great balance between giving you enough to not be at a complete loss over what's happening but was vague enough that there's a ton of mystery in the setting.

when are we going to meet the real ornstein?

>>171419348
Thanks, we'll just charge right for the boss.

>>171419218
Are you aware that Pyromancy has an INT scaling ceiling which prevents Faith users from getting any damage scaling out of ranged Pyromancy until they've invested a certain amount of INT?

>>171419395
he's dead

>>171419281
Pyromancy is at its best

>>171419383
>implying that Bloodborne actually ever told you what the fuck was going on
>implying that people who claim that they understand Bloodborne's "story" aren't making 99% of their fanfiction up
"It's Lovecraftian, I ain't gotta explain shit" -- Miyazaki

>>171419395
He's in Archdragon Peak killed by Nameless King.
Or guarding the Way of Blue Cathedral.

>>171419281
>Pyro's having stat requirements are bad
How? You'll need to invest in int/fai anyway. And don't even try and justify ds1's "lmao no investment magic!", because that was retarded. Faith is hasn't changed toi much. I wish lightning spears were better ranged spells, but all things considered its still good.

>>171419497
*floor, not ceiling

>>171419405
Ok. Sign has been down. Emperor Trump

>>171419348
Not seeing your sign.

>>171419383
Read the interview with memezaki in the bloodborne guide. He alternates bewteen "easy to understand" and "what's going on" with his games

>>171418497
A wedge pries by tapering to a point and having force applied to it. Wedging and chopping requires primarily raw strength.

Cutting is a specific application of a cutting edge and is a particular motion along the object which slices.

You chop a block of wood with a woodsplitting axe, and you slice a chunk of steak with your steak knife.

Straightswords, axes, and so on in souls games are only mildly sharpened wedges. They basically use brute force to drive into the flesh of your target, and that brute force is why they aren't totally harmless against armour (though they're still more effective than they would realistically be). Slashing weapons don't chop at you, but instead run along what they're trying to cut (eg. your skin) to bind the cutting edge and cut. Making an effective cutting edge that could work like that with medieval technology is actually kinda special, because the low durability of the material would usually degrade any fine edge within a few uses. That's why slash damage is an in-game characteristic of weapons like katanas, as a way of abstracting "these things are a product of special forging" (also not totally realistic). It's also why bleed is a characteristic identity of slashing damage. Its effectiveness is greatly reduced (once again, not accurately reflected by game mechanics) against armour because metal doesn't really cut metal.

Slashing is effective because large fleshwounds are what make you bleed out and die. Normal damage is effective because driving a sharpened wedge into someone's arm is likely to cause problems for them.

>>171419562
>abandon your duty, your friends, and even your soul to follow your traitor liege
>get btfo by his hollowed-out remains after spending uncounted cycles searching for him
is there any character in the Souls universe as punished as Ornstein?

>>171419281
>Moment DLC hits everyone bitches how op pyro became
>Now people say its bad
What did I miss?

>>171419497
I meant to refer to the developers as "they". I was wondering how fireballs aren't just recolored soul arrows.

>>171419632
I need to get my hands on the BB guide. Heard from ENB that they're possibly making a new batch of the guides so might try to buy one just to get mememan's interview.

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>>171419395
You did. He's a birb-dragon now.

I get that people like the lore of DaS in general - but writing a fucking 60 page "thesis" is the most autistic thing ive seen yet

Redditfags are the fucking worst

>>171419948
Thsi retarded theory is right up there with "Solaire is the sandworm" and "Nameless Kang was a king of lothric"

>>171419968
Most of it is fucking garbage and borderline fanfic shit too

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>>171419718
Where the fuck is this implied

>>171419629
Protip for next play through: Parry him.

>>171419968
Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Paleblood Hunt? I haven't heard of any dissertation-length writeups of DaS lroe

>>171420062
>solaire is the sandworm

I fucking love that stupid shit. 10/10 trolling for whoever put that miracle in the worm, they fucking knew some idiot would claim that surely

>>171420112
Huh, I didn't know you could parry him. Thanks, and nice fashion souls btw.

>>171419968
people have the idea that there's a whole complete silmarillion behind all the vague hints and if they just arrange the item descriptions the right way all will be revealed

>>171420101
Ornstein abandoned his post in Anor Londo to search for the NK. The fake Ornstein you meet in Anor Londo has his soul, its' how the illusion is being powered. Like how the Iron Golem has a soul battery at its' core. Therefore, upon leaving Anor Londo, Ornstein must have donated his soul to make the illusion in his stead. He would have been walking around as a hollow the whole time.

>>171420131
>paleblood hunt
Yes, Ive read the some of the paleblood hunt

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByGsar3OSMRYRjYwNWpfbndoeW8

This is the one im talking about

what would a worm be doing with a lightning miracle anyway?

>>171420303
How shit is it?

From "solaire is the sandworm" being lowest to "I translated the titanite slabs fond and it actually makes sense" being the highest

>>171420268
>Therefore, upon leaving Anor Londo, Ornstein must have donated his soul to make the illusion in his stead. He would have been walking around as a hollow the whole time.

Headcanon as fuck, you can split your soul without going hollow. Gwyn and the Pygmy did it, neither of them going hollow.

Theres no proof Ornstein went around hollow. And im still looking for proof that Orstein got "btfo" by NK

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>>171411470
Pretty close. Also, Gold Pine Resin, not Lightning Blade.

>>171420440
>giant worm that shoots lightning
>drops a lightning spell

Makes sense to me, anon.

>>171420180
I also had silent avowal on, but it was kind of useless since it only lasts about 10 seconds.

Ill prob use GMB next time.

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>>171420440
being adorable

>>171420093

Is Dragonsis there?

>>171420459
>page 3
>"I used YouTube streams and have not yet played the game myself."
you tell me

>>171409701

>Yhorm is weak to Sellsword twinblades and lightning

What did Miyazaki mean by this?

>>171420687
yes and ready to fulfill all your bf needs

>>171420459
The Paleblood was alright actually, I enjoyed reading it, as it lined up with a lot of what other people has concluded on BB lore. There was only a FEW times i thought his theories got a little sketchy. Im properly gonna read it to the end, as i like watching lore videos while im travelling

>>171420572
well fine, it could have been a partial splitting, the point I wanted to get across in my post was that he had split his soul to make fake Ornstein, donating at the very least a significant fraction of it

as for him getting btfo by the NK, you find his armor sitting in the NK's arena

>>171420781

Don't lie to me.

>>171420723
>I taught myself Japanese.
>learned via the immersion technique watching shedloads of anime,
hohhh boy

>>171420920
play offline

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>flame fan is a strong as fuck flashsword with ridiculous reach and damage

stop taking all this lore seriously.
Even discussing which ending you picked is better than actually taking miyazaki's fanfiction seriously

>>171420857
You find Orsteins armor in all three games, that doesnt mean he gets BTFO in every game.

>tfw cant eat watermelon and use a controller at the same time

also is it true that the ultra gutsword is better hollow than any other infusion for it?

>>171421043
have we actually seen the flame fan in action? I've heard conflicting reports of it being a weapon vs a spell

>>171421073
Caring about people caring about lore is pretty lame m8

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>>171420971

can undead have children?

>>171421223
it's a spell, the ign gameplay in the op shows the player fighting zoey

>>171421223
https://youtu.be/F61tviDEgi0?t=6m55s

>>171421257
Want to find out?

>>171420723
>>171420987

This has to be bait. I don't believe you

>Come back after taking a long break from the game
>Never get summoned anymore to help with bosses or just fuck around
>Never see any more summon signs for any bros to play through areas with

Feels kinda lonely in the game now

>>171421408
how?

>>171420630

>lightning stake has the user strike it directly down for maximum damage
>you kill the ancient wyvern by striking directly down on its head
>Dragonslayer Ornstein used lightning to kill dragons
>we find his armour in the Dragons temple because he abandoned his armour to transcend into a dragon
>a dragon can also be called a Wyrm
>Wyrm-worm
Oh shit guys what if the lightning worm is actually Ornstein who got sent down there to look for the chaos flame, and Solaire is the king's son who defected to the dragons to become the Nameless King, just like in DS1 when Gwyn had all statues of him removed from Anor Londo?

>>171421351
shit senpai what are those crawling Nazgul hollows at the start of the video

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>>171421242

That means I can't join. My heart always starts to beat too fast and my hands start to shake when she's around. I can't play like this.

>>171421540
Vicious dragon ERP

>>171421412
go look at the linked google drive if you don't believe me, god damn it's right there

>>171421603
"Murkmen"
Deep-affiliated hollow critters, apparently.

Str or pyro for first trc run? Pyro is ng+

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>>171421351
>Twinshields have regular greatshield R1s and R2s
>L1 is most likely a double block
>L2 is that worthless WA charge
WHY
WHY
WHY

>>171421748
Pyro

>>171421753
ultimate tank build

>>171420062
>>171420157
Solaire isn't the sandworm but the sandworm certainly is the grown up sunlight maggot that possessed Solaire

>>171421412
>Otherwise, one of the best things you can do, is find a game lifestream on Twitch or YouTube hosted by a Japanese person.
nope, spelling errors and all

it's shit though it's just hack that read paleblood hunt and tried to jump on the bandwagon, the only funny part is all their shitty blogging upfront. the prose is shit especially for someone that harps on their academic qualifications

>>171421847
>ultimate tank build
>probably barely surpasses havel's shield stability and has shittier elemental defences

>>171421351
>big fatty has a floating humanity for a head
>but his body is a human effigy
what does it mean?

anyone ever play archer?

>>171421753
they also have an improved version of orma/reeve powerstance attack

>>171421753
We have the full moveset from other videos, but to recap:

R1/R2 - Normal Greatshield

Paired L1 - doubleslam extremely similar to O&R powerstance from 2. You literally close the doors on someone and it truecombos into the followup L1 for roughly 550 damage. Full autoguard.

L2 - blocking stance where you close the doors and block with both of them together. Can move and turn freely in this stance but walking speed is slowed like any other WA stance. (note: turning speed is unaffected and functions just like normal guarding)

L2R1 - charge forward with full autoguard, stunning anything in your way and bashing at the end. Transitions back into the guardstance naturally, leaving no vulnerability.

L2R2 - Hunker down in an immobilizing guard stance that freezes your stamina.

They have fully functional offensive capacity and, while they aren't quite comparable to O&R in raw damage, they have more options. We have footage of a bunch of streamers playing with new weapons in the arena and nobody could beat the shittiest guy there once he started using the doors. The bamco rep even had to suggest they pull out some main game weapons to help deal with the shield since it was stalling their footage.

>>171421983
67 stab and 100 phys. 70~80 elemental. Stance WA of charging or planting down.
>>171422230
no cuz bow is crap in dks3. Needs to fly faster

>>171421349
>>171421351
OH GOD THEY FUCKED UP THE DESERT SORCERESS SHOULDERS AGAIN

W H Y
H
Y

If Ornstein got btfo, where's his body? Seems odd that his armor's just laying neatly to the side while his corpse is nowhere to be found.

>>171422505
you find his armour in every game. Does it mean he got BTFO every game?

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>>171422331
>>171422240
Thanks, that helps a great deal.
Do we have stat requirements? Also mind posting the video?

>>171422560
No it means Miyazaki is a hack.

what if solaire is the cook in the undead settlement

>>171422589
45 str

>>171422724
Is it? I thought thats how much STR the demo character has.

Giant Door Shield
21.5 units
45 strength - B (~80%) scaling, 210 base damage. 500 AR 66/10 2h

R1 is regular greatshield bash
L1 is the crab pinch attack
Holding L2 blocks with the weapon, allowing the player to walk around, abelit slowly. It also doubles as the stance for the weapon.
L2 - R1 is a running charge
L2 - R2 anchors the shield down into the ground and gives it infinite stability until you move. Stamina does not regenerate.
R2 is the standard, slow, overhead smash.

Are Darkdrift and Bloodlust shit? They are the coolest looking katanas, but I only hear bad things about them.

>>171422589
Video is in the OP.
45 str, 21.5 weight
B strength scaling

>>171421848

Then how did it learn electric attacks if the chaos bug was a fire pokemon?

>>171422434
>he doesn't like women who front barbell raise 300 lbs

>>171423108
by devouring solaire

>>171422987
67 stablity
100% physical
80% magical
45% fire
75% dark
75% lightning

due to the inherent nature of two-handed shields providing more stamina, the effective stability of the GDS is actually 80, although, only when dual-wielded.

>>171421848
n-no, Solaire was saved! SOLAIRE WAS SAVED!

are miracles boring to use?

>>171423005
all katanas have mediocre r1, and most have the same r2's.

Both bloodlust and DD have the same moveset, but DD has shield piercing on the heavies (light does have a little but inconsequential).

BL has the potential to have the highest AR of all katana (flynn, dragon, both red stone and morion 700~ ar), but its short length makes it useless outside of spamming sprinting R1.

Theyre ok.

>>171423108

Since when did Pokemon ever have problems learning moves that didn't correspond with their type?

>>171422560
You get his armor in DS1, which is likely a recreation by Domhall, and in DS3, which is supposedly after he got btfo by NK. It would only make sense for him to have died near NK, unless NK just decided to randomly carry his set around. But despite evidence pointing to him getting btfo, there's no body with his armor, which makes no sense. That is, until you consider that he could have learned of NK's betrayal in his attempts to find him, followed the Path of the Dragons to get to ADP, and then shed his armor upon finding the NK again to...? Become the Stormdrake?

>>171421848
the sandworm was originally in carthus, not izalith

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>>171423185
>>171422987
here's my source

I misremembered the elemental defenses slightly.

>>171422560
>you find his armour in every game
no you dont

>>171423005
They're bad relative to other katanas because bad WAs, short and lower AR

But all katanas are good because their best attack is their running R1, and it's the best attack in the game, uncontested

>>171423330
son of a bitch. Guess Id have to respec Emp Trump to use the wall.

>>171421706
Just join. there's a friendly Darkwraith there.
pass: dsg

I'm fighting the king of the storm in archdragon peak and I have no idea what's going on. Most of the time the boss is not on my screen. Any tips?

>>171423705
look up

>>171423705
If you lock on, lock on to the kang, not the dragon.

>>171422223
Its humanity you retard

can anyone help me beat the belfry gargoyles on NG+? My SM is 30k

blue eye orb when

>>171423705
Look up and pivot the camera with him?

Seriously its not that hard, you can even dodge the lightning spear attack purely by sound of when its going to hit

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>hard drive got corrupted
>too retarded to cheat engine
>have to do two playthroughs to do the proper NG+ run
FUCK

>>171423970
sotfs btw

What are the best invading areas for SL45?

For what fucking does the Chaos Blade make you lose hp on each fucking hit? Other than it being based on a "lmao japanese mythology"

>>171424136
Carthus tomb, watcher area (prob not good in the swamp), smoldering lake.

>>171424186
At least in Dks1 its supposed to eat away at its user because its chaos n shiet.

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pls
https://strawpoll.com/9ysrcg1

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>>171424097
The sooner you start, the sooner you'll be done.

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Lets talk about Slave Knights.

So apparently, they were used as cannon fodder in bleak battles, yet there armor is of the highest quality, and is a symbol of honor. What gives?

>>171421351
>big fat humanity monster with 4k HP
>5k souls
>2 knights with shields that can get stunlocked
>4k a piece

They got the souls difficulty of a kill thing mostly right in 1 and 2, why did they cock it up so badly in 3

>>171424592
Paladin Leeroy has similar story too. He was given sanctus, Grant, and his armour despite being sent to death.

Why did the community die

Return to Lothric when?

>>171424592
>What gives?

Probably one of the earliest undead, back when they probably thought "Holy shit, I can't die that's awesome".