/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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First for Priscilla!

At what SL do FTH builds become viable in DS3?

Are caster faithbuilds ever viable?

>>171459614
The big fancy banner is just a spear with a buff weapon art?
Disappointing, but I should have expected it I guess.

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>come to think of it, the only HONORABLE thing to do is-

>>171459807

When you can get 60 Faith and meet the requirements for the weapon you want; you probably want at least 27 Vig too

>>171459847
It's an AoE buff. A few of the new things they're introducing seem geared towards the team games in the arena.

And shafting invaders

>>171459614
Youtube mirror of the Gamespot boss fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttTyzbyUtTs

Should replace the other link in the next OP.

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They went overboard with this choice of dlc entrance, even more obscure than AotA

Sl40 or Sl50 for invading?

Who are your Souls favorite ecelebs that are still doing Souls content?

>>171459347

Why would The Ringed City lag my system?

>>171460327
Where?

So, besides Earthen Peak, do we know any areas from DasI/II will come back?

>>171460359
Because supposedly it's a huge city and the optimization in DS3 is shit in general.

>>171459764
>used to come to generals partially just to find more Priscilla artwork
>I've seen absolutely all of it by now
>even the really terrible stuff
>now it's just name dropping about discord arena shit and shitposting about terrible atheism in videogames

I don't know why I'm still here, but I somehow feel as if I've lost more control of my life than when I was just collecting Priscilla fan art.

>>171460408
In general. Trying to figure out if Farron+Catacombs+Smouldering Lake is better than Irithyll pre/post Pontiffs and the dungeon

Any bonuses for pre ordering DLC like early access? Or I shouldn't care

>>171460865
I don't think it has any pre-order bonus.

>>171460810
I'm at 60 in the catacombs and get pretty consistent activity

>>171460354
Oroboro said he was going to start making some again so I guess he wins by default because I don't know of any others that are doing souls at the moment

>>171461313
Lobosjr has Lobroborne going on at the least.

fucking nigger invaders. my game feels like germany.

>>171460471
We don't know any others yet. Probably the most recognizable landmarks. Drangleic castle should be there in some shape or form. I can't think of too many others from 2.

>>171461789
DaS2 even getting a callback is bad. Game should just be forgotten about.

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IT'S OUT IN A WEEK WHY AREN'T THERE MORE LEAKS

>>171461313
>oroboro
>winning anything
He loses just by dint of being oroboro.

>>171462019
Yeah, the lack of memorable areas really speaks for itself.

I bought the season pass back in October, and in my steam library it appears that Ringed city wasn't added. Anyone else?

>>171462019
Nah, that's just your gay opinion, you memer

>>171462096
Why do you want it spoiled for you? You should be happy we have almost no clue what's coming after the first boss.

>>171462354
>tfw haven't seen anything outside of their first gameplay trailer and the recent ShitGN pvp arena ones

>>171460471
>>171461789
Looking at 2 alone, I'd say 7 of its areas are recognizable enough to show up. Majula, Undead Purgatory, Iron Keep, Drangleic Castle, Aldia's Keep, Dragon Shrine, and Throne of Want. I doubt they'll do any DLC locations since some players haven't played them, but I could be wrong.

>>171462447
>tfw have seen nothing besides the reveal trailer

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Posting from the old thread: Could someone on PS4 please drop me the Firelink chestpiece, or help me mule it from another save? I want to wear it for Fashion Souls but I don't want to open up the Kiln until after beating TRC.

>>171462472
>Iron Keep
Pls no, it's a fucking garbage level even by DS2 standards.

Dragon Shrine is essentially Archdragon Peak.

>Throne of Want
You mean a dull cave with no features?

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Why was Bamco so adamant about not revealing the new weapon stats ? Are they going to be changed in the final release ?

>>171459807
Pure faith is ass, you best bet is making some kind of hybrid build which is less ass, but still gets shat on by pretty much anything else. To add insult to injury, most "faith weapons" either have crap faith scaling or are just terrible

Dragonslayer spear is a dex weapon and Wolnirs greatsword has that shitty bastard sword moveset. The only weapon you could argue is a decent faith weapon (still shit scaling, but high req's) is the DS Sword Spear, but in my experience it falls in between two categories despite having decent HA

I get that magic build in general were kinda OP in DaS2, but they went way overboard, especially regarding faith

The only redeeming quality is L2 cast of SL-spear and stake and even then it means you have to trade and potentially suffer more damage than they do

So imo, Faith never becomes viable

>>171462472
What about Shrine of Amana? That one was pretty memorable.

>>171462472
I just want Lmaoym Ayyc to show up desu

The Ivory King deserves it

>>171462019
kys

>>171460471
That's probably going to be it.

>>171462683
probably nerfed to shit with rapier moveset.

I loved spears in ds2, but I am having trouble with them in DS3 in pertaining to invasions. Are spears just outclassed or are they only viable in duels? I am having a hard time vs more then one opponent.

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I really wish the Sunset set wasn't so heavy. I like it. This is something I put together due in part to an absence of the helm (it makes me fat roll).

>>171461594

Did Son of Kangz get you?

I've been invaded several times by some dude with a Javelin and the most Negro looking character around.

>>171462683
I won't be surprised if they change the scaling to C/C/E/E.

>>171463364
Did he wear Wolnirs crown?

>>171463364
>He got invaded by Spear Chucker
Top Zoz

>>171463364
no, i'd appreciate getting rekt by such chars but it's just fucking plebs all over Irithyll who fuck up my progress.
i've seen a perfect jew though, Shekelstein. he was sunbroing at Yhorm.

>>171460001
It's called The Ringed City for a reason.

>>171463509

Looked like it, yeah. Skinny black character model in a loincloth, like Marvin from South Park.

He was mostly throwing the Javelin, running away and then throwing it again, and doing gestures.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on the Pontiff?

>>171455253
Darkmoons are aggressive as fuck and will chase after you, giving the host and his phantom(s) confidence to run after you. I don't alt-F4 but I will definitely chug and pull some shit if a Moon comes.

>>171463874
He did nothing wrong

>>171464046
>I will definitely chug and pull some shit if a Moon comes.
you should be doing that anyway

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>>171463874

>Deacons of the Deep bow to the Pontiff
>In contact with the Profaned Flame
>Possess psychic-like abilities
>Controlls Irythill with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks globally
>Direct descendant of the ancient tree blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities in the Deep (Sullygrad will be be the first city)
>Owns 99% of the Way of the White chruches on Earth
>Said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in izalithian monasteries & Anor Londo
>Ancient izalithian scriptures tell of an angel who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with him
>Pontiff is in regular communication with the Deep, forwarding the word of Aldrich to the Way of the White. Who do you think set up the meeting between the Aldrich & Gwyndolin (First meeting between the two in over 1000 years) and arranged the Way of the White leaders first trip to the Deep in history
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with him.
>Pontiff is about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the First Flame to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he is a benevolent being.

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Am I Bloodborne yet?

>>171462354
having things spoiled for me doesn't really affect my enjoyment of any media, and I just wanna know what happens

>>171464046
>Darkmoons are aggressive as fuck and will chase after you
They get summoned so rarely, so there's incentive to "make this one count".

>>171459807
I'm at SL 120 with 60 faith and it kicks ass, although in pvp it's more like a knight with an assortment of lightning infused weapons that waits for a perfect opportunity to cast a sunlight spear or a lightning storm.

As far as pve goes, as soon as you can start casting lightning stake and get both miracle rings you'll start melting everything.

>>171464640
Are you floating? I hope you have a crescent axe to transform to

>>171463874
>Making this post again
>>171464524
>Responding to your own post again

I swear I see more of this shit on /dsg/ than anywhere else, it's like a new flavor of 4kings fag.

>>171464876
>he hasn't taken the Pontpill

>>171464876
wake up asheeple

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>>171464876
Do you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself?

I wonder how the dual doors will look like when wielded on your back.

Does anyone know?

>>171464990
rekt

>>171464990
>Edit screencap
>Respond to yourself again

>>171464898
There's nothing interesting about the pontiff except the stuff that people had to make up because he's lame.

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>wake up
>go through the rest of last thread
>"doggos can't spawn in Farron's Keep"

What?
Has this always been the case? I remember being invaded back in the first month of the game and being invaded right in fron of big wolf's ladders. Although I can't ascertain if it was a doggo or not. That sounds dumb tho. That's like if Al's buddies never spawned near the silver knight stairway.

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>>171465413
>lame.
Wot? He's the goddamn pope of Anor Londo and almost every bit of lore in the game can be traced back to him. Nobody needs to make up stuff about him when all the info is there.
Also he's a ten foot monster dual wielding enchanted glowing greatswords to one of the best ost in the game, and is widely regarded as one of the hardest bosses in the game after NK and SoC. There is no lame there

>>171465697
Also he feels like a reference or allusion to the Witch King of Angmar, which makes him ten times cooler than he already was.

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>>171465697
>Nobody needs to make up stuff about him when all the info is there.

Then why do people constantly make stuff up about him?

>widely regarded as one of the hardest bosses in the game
>can be parried to death like Gwyn

Keh heh heh heh

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9 fuckin days lkeft


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>171465916
I should have said "regarded as one of the hardest bosses by anyone that isn't a parryfag"

>>171465943
More like 10, because burgers.

>>171465943
game's fucking dead already.
got to Irithyll back courtyard after Pontiff.
>oh cool it's the main pvp area from all the videos
look around
0 signs around
only the occasional covenant nigger invades

>>171465982
>I should have said "regarded as one of the hardest bosses but not actually one of the hardest bosses"

>>171465943

So, they pushed the release date back?

I recall it was the 24th or 25th

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>>171465990
DAMN AMERICLAPS HAVING A FINGER IN THE MARMELADE JAR

>>171466193
It was always the 28th.

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>>171466193
i thought the release was the 28th?

>>171465825
Probably not intentional, but still cool

>Go through the new DLC stuff
>No new poison weapons or toxic weapons

Dammit From. At the very least it looks like we're going to get the tracers back but it wouldn't at all surprise me if the silver tracer is no longer toxic.

>speedtest tells me 13ping
>voice chat on discord is unbearable to everyone because my voice is always breaking up
>Being summoned to another world
>Unable to join session
>Invading another world
>Unable to join session

What the fuck? I know this isn't /g/ or whatever but how come my net is fucking up but it stays stable on speedtests and the like?
I just wanna be summoned as a dorkmoon before it's too late.

>>171466536
Stop being Australian.

>>171465982
Not using parrying on bosses because "muh hardcore" is one of the most retarded things ever.

>>171466567
I'm Portugoose. 35mb dload speed. I don't know why it's happening now.

>>171466601
Stop being Portuguese.

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>>171466627
Fair enough.
I wish I could anon.

>>171466580
not everyone can masterfully execute a parry against a duel-wielding Artorias on crack, except for that first lunge attack

>>171466193
Balance patch and the new arenas are out on the 24th. Actual DLC is out on March 28th, like it was announced from the very beginning.

>>171461446
I can't stand his brother. Nice guy, but irritating watching him run head first into a brick wall so much

This game wouldnt be dead if it was free. Checkmate

If I use the dried fingers once and then go on to survive several invasions do I have to keep using them to reset the timer, or just the one time at the start?

>>171466692
PATCH NOTES WHEN

Even before I met kaathe I always felt like gwyn was a jew that had cheated his way to power. That's why I killed gwyn.

>>171466878
Likely tomorrow. Patch notes for Friday patches have usually been released on Mondays.

Another day and DaS3 is still the worst souls game.
It's funny wouldn't you say?

>>171467002
I don't like your opinion.

>>171466315
>>171466286
>release is on a fucking TUESDAY

does From not know that some people have jobs?

>>171467002
I like this post.

>>171467002

Equal for best depending on what play style you like, unless you're wearing nostalgia goggles

Past 2 months I've played through 1-3 and BB, and DS3 is probably the best of them unless you prefer DS1 slower gameplay. BB just didn't have enough in the way of replayability of classes.

>>171465413
>There's nothing interesting about the pontiff except the stuff that people made up
are you daft? that's exactly the point of the meme. never heard of the bogdanoffs?

>>171467092
Kids and NEETs have free time.
You are one of these, right? You don't work and cone into 4chan, right?

>>171467002
I bet you're one of THOSE people who think 2 is best, too.

>>171459614
>pussy ass reds still crystal out when its only 2v1 when being summoned as dorkmoon
>still not auto-rewarded for people who crystal out

good game

>>171467309
DeS is the best, DaS3 is the worst.
DaS1 and DaS2 are pretty much even for different reasons.

>>171467312
>letting them bsc
get good or get back to farming silver k***gas

>>171467312
I legit BC on every blue even if I'm winning.
I also keep wob on to BC them whenever they are summoned.

It's just what's right to do.

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>>171467703

>>171467274
Yes Anon, I have heard of 'pretending' to be retarded.

>>171459993
they really wanna show off this bossfight dont they? I dont recall them hyping the boss in AoA this much.

>>171465982
Not a parryfag, sully died like a pathetic bitch, only stupid spastics think he's a real challenge

>>171465982
too bad he's one of the easiest bosses to dodge and r1 spam to death then.

Dancer, Gundyr, SoC and NK are all infitely more difficult

>>171467092
>hasn't booked his time-off
lmaoing @ u

>>171467274
>never heard of the bogdanoffs?
do you mean one of the shittiest most forced memes on /pol/?

sad

>>171467856
>Dancer, Gundyr, SoC and NK are all infitely more difficult
Agree with that. Sully is only hard in phase 1 really. He becomes so passive and telegraphs his attacks into next week in phase 2.

>>171467932
It's okay anon. The Bogpill is a hard one to swallow.

>>171467312
I black crystal when there's a blue just because I think it's funny, I get back into invasions instantly and I bet they're just sobbing to the silver knights

Daily reminder that there will never be a Blue Eye Orb in DS3.

>>171467274
I haven't.
Can you give me a quick rundown?

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>>171467092
>will probably release 11pm where I am
>mini-test the next day at 10am
>debating how long to stay up playing

>>171467312
I black crystal when I am a blue
>Perpetuating the odds stacked against invaders meme and helping host+summons

>>171465413
>>Edit screencap
>>Respond to yourself again


Imagine being this fucking retarded

>>171468109
Just play when you get back from it and splurge on TRC.

>>171467949
>Sully is only hard in phase 1 really. He becomes so passive and telegraphs his attacks into next week in phase 2.

and I wouldn't even call his 1st phase that hard, it's easily cheesed if you either bring a shield or know how to dodge, I mean most of his moves are massively telegraphed by him doing his very best false king allant impression.

Not to mention he doesn't exactly have a lot of health, so anyone who actually built their character properly will spend ~20-40 seconds to get him to phase 2: dont talk to me or my stand ever again mode.

>>171468175
See its a maths test on a chemistry degree so it's pretty simple. The content itself I mean.

The only problem is figuring out how much sleep I need.

>>171465413
>>171465916
t. Gwyndolin

>>171467092
Are you new to video games or something ? They are usually released on Tuesdays.

>>171468134
I black crystal when the host enters the bossfight
>coddling co-op shitters who can't solo a boss

>>171468250
Go to bed at like 9 or 10 so you're well rested. Try not to think about Dark Souls, this is more important than it.

>>171468160
t. embarrassed samefag

>>171468304
>not just sitting down outside so the boss will be harder on them

for shame

>>171468304
>>171468134
>le honor meme

Never gets old, you fags are still hilarious

>>171468217
Honestly with all the dank lore around him and shit, he should have at least been one of those bosses with 2 separate fights like Abyss Watchers, or even have him and Aldrich fight you together at anal rodeo.

>>171468368
prove it

Are Gravelord miracles any good?

>>171468403
Does the boss adjust its difficulty down again if a phantom leaves?

>>171468478
post your name, address, and SSN.

Can I get bannu for giving myself 40 titanite scales earlygame?

>>171468134
>It's another redfags pretending to be victims episode

>>171468436
>2 separate fights like Abyss Watchers

refilling healthbars is the biggest bullshit about 3, they should just have had one big healthbar and transitioned at 50%, same with NK.

Both DLC taking this shitty trend to even more cancerous heights.

>>171468304
I black crystal a red when he invades me
>wasting time with weaklings

>>171468546
Yes.

>>171467137
I can't cope with the terrible checkpointing in DS3 compared to BB, DaS1 and DeS which is all the more frustrating because the actual levels themselves are good for the most part.

>>171468109
>tfw have to wait for a full month for them to release the GOTY so I can purchase
Fug.

>>171468520
pretty sure it does

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>>171468543
It's on faggot

>>171468560
What's the difference between:
Boss has 1 health bar with 10k hp
Boss has 1 health bar with 5k hp that refills once

>>171468562
I black crystal NPC invaders
>bothering to fight them at all

>>171466692
>Balance patch and the new arenas are out on the 24th
CEing in the weapons and posting webms will happen on that day

>>171468649
that the second one cheats and goes against the design philosphy of 'tough but fair' and instead buys into it's own shitty marketing of LMAO SO HARD AMIRITE?!

>>171466536
>using speedtest

try speedof.me

>>171468689
But both bosses are as hard as each other, the only difference is that the second one can't be hurt while changing phases.

>>171468689
What the fuck are you even talking about, there's no difference in the end

>>171468613
Dang

>>171467773
It's more that the boss is available early so they might as well show it. With AoA, one boss was the very end of the DLC and the other was hidden, so they couldn't show too much. The Demon Prince is about as deep into the DLC as Artorias was so it lets them show off some of the early gameplay but also not show too much of the early level.

Plus after the gravetender boss, they're obviously eager to show that minor bosses will actually be taken seriously this time around.

>>171468649
you know what you're getting with the first one
when you hit orphan and his HP bar barely moves you know that it's going to be a tough long fight
when friede gets up the THIRD time it's just absurd

>>171468649
>enemies die when they run out of health
>bosses die when they run out of health
>oh but not this one because reasons

It's also demoralising as fuck to watch all your work in the first phase go out the window because it's anime resurrection time.

>>171468872
>It's also demoralising as fuck


That's probably the point

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>>171468737
>>171468739

>boss has 10k health
>you fight it an ration your estus for this amount of health

>boss has 5k health that refill up to 2 times
>you fight it thinking it has 5k health, getting cheated out of whatever consumables you wasted for thinking the fight would be short.

are you actually this retarded or merely pretending?

By your logic you might as well remove healthbars so you have exactly zero indication of the bosses health, I'm sure that wont make affect your gameplay at all right? It's not like some weapon groups rely on trading and knowing if you can survive losing that health or not surely wont affect their playstyle right?
It certainly wont affect people reliant on rationing their ashtus between cheap spammable spells or expensive finishers.

Crescent axe or lucerne? Doing a FTH build and they both have A scaling and decent moveset, but its hard to pick, which one has longer reach?

>>171468814
But that's part of the game, you don't know fully what will happen next and it stops people from going ham on a low hp boss if they don't know about a second phase

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>>171468692
Thanks anon. Still, 56ms doesn't sound like close to enough to fuck up all my connections to other players. Blech, I appreciate it anyway.

>>171468649
Because it gives the needed information to the player about how they should conserve their heals. Giving the boss another healthbar is only really imo justifiable if it's clearly two separate entities like Greatwolf, Witch of Hemwick or Abyss Watchers.

>>171468921
>actually expecting to beat bosses on the first try

You're the retard here if you spend all your consumables on the first try instead of gwtting a hang out of their moveset

>go into a boss fight
>don't know their moveset because Iève never seen them before
>die to an attack
Wow, how was I supposed to know? I got cheated out of immediate progress and instant gratification by the fact that it's impossible to have foreknowledge of every interesting aspect of a videogame
We should give bosses moveset bars so we can see their moveset and ration our consumables and stamina accordingly

>>171468921
The game isn't meant to be played woth trading or spells. Those tools have always been for shitters so whether a gameplay decision affects them or not, we shouldn't care.

>>171468997
>HURR DURRR THE GAME IS SO HARD, EXPECT TO DIE

drink some bleach, You only die on a boss the first time if you, the player fucks up.

refilling healthbars is the gameplay equivelant of instant deathmoves with no telegraph, it's bullshit.

>>171469024
>The game isn't meant to be played woth trading or spells. Those tools have always been for shitters

According to who? Some faggot /v/ shitposter?

>>171469008
>mfw bosses don't have a visible stamina bar
How the fuck am I supposed to know when to go in?

>not just drinking when you need to

>tfw estoholics anonymous turned me away

>>171469024
>The game isn't meant to be played woth trading or spells

t. straight sword r1 spamming shitter

>>171469063
>caps
>hurr durr

Dying is part of the game yes, stay mad you fucking child

>>171468941
Lucerne is much better, especially with the Leo Ring.

>>171469008
>>171468997

You guys don't need to be such asses. Doing it once or twice under special circumstances is different than establishing core game mechanics and have them lie to the player just to artificially screw up people's tactical planning. Souls is supposed to be about patience and observation, but having healthbars strsight up lie to you without an acceptable reason is just dumb.

>>171469008
>>don't know their moveset because Iève never seen them before
>>die to an attack
your own fault for not bringing a shield and learning their moveset.

>>171469083
enemies dont have stamina bars either you nobhead, ergo false equivelant.

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>>171468689
>>171468921
>>171469063
>>171469083
>>171469008

IT'S NOT FAIR, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW.

FUCKING CHEATERS

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>>171469127
>Dying is part of the game yes, stay mad you fucking child

>unironically excusing poor gameplay mechanics because he fell for the bamco marketing campaign.

it is lazy game design but you're so busy sucking memezakis cock you can't handle anyone critizing it.

I bet you thought Agility was a genius gameplay mechanic because it fucked everyone out of rolling in DaS2 for the first couple of months until people figured it out.

>>171469024
You're objectively wrong because if From didn't mean for players to have access to certain tools, they would not have included them.

>>171469214
>>171469214
Is this the same guy who bitched and cried about how Freide is the worst boss in the series and bullshit unfair because she has three health bars? And that Soul of Cinder is the second most unfair because he has two? Because that somehow makes him chug twice as much estus in the first phase?

Man remember who else had two phases with a health bar refill?

Ornstein and Smough.

>>171469168
But the game never gives you full info on things.
The main draw has always been you can only trust your own stats.
It's great to teach you not to blindly act according to how much hp the enemy has.

>>171469307
Nice assumptions /v/ermin, stay mad

>>171469307
Agility was Tanimura though, not Memezaki.

You appear to be the one who can't handle criticism here.

>>171469214
you're right these babies are what make the souls series so casual

every boss fight should have hidden healthbars and several instant death grab attacks, not only that they should boot you out of the game everytime you lose so you have to spend time starting the game up again!

Now that's a real challenge!

>>171469175
Hot

>>171469367
>>171469383
nice deflection asshole sorry for not using your prefered pronoun of fromdrone :^)

>>171469324
>actually and unironically wanting Souls games to be "fair"

Probably the same kind of faggots who fried about twinks in DS1 or ganks and seeds in 3

>>171469168
Wasnt leo ring broken as shit or does it actually work now?

>>171469008
I don't care about this stupid health bar shit you're arguing about since it's the same either way, but facing a new moveset is different since everything in souls games is slow enough to react to. You don't need to 'learn the moveset' to dodge it.

>>171469324
when O&S did it, it was special

when every second boss in 3 does it it isn't special, it's lazy.

>>171468921
>ration

Is this a hot new meme?

Heal when you're missing 1 heal or more in HP, or when you don't have enough HP to survive the most damaging attack the boss has. That's how you do it in literally any action or hunting game with traditional health mechanics. If you chugged like a madman to top off little slivers of missing HP you have nobody to blame but yourself.

>>171469452
What deflection? Do you even know that the words you use mean? Or are you still going to make a bunch of shitty assumptions?

>caps
>ironic shitposting
>absolutely stubborn, everything is a personal attack
>":^)"
>x-drone

Literal fucking /v/ shitposter, nothing to see here. Thanks for the laugh though

>>171469592
not an argument

>>171469530
>every second boss in 3 does it it isn't special
Friede, Abyss Watcher and LoC. Anyone else? That's not every second boss

>>171469391
Now you're just being a faggot and acting like a reasonable surprise challenge on a first attempt is the same as being literally impossible.

Ludwig in BB is one boss that absolutely should have been designed this way, with the Moonlight Sword centaur phase being a full health second boss after getting your shit pushed in by the berserk monster phase

>>171469590
t. someone who hasn't played a spellcaster

you have to ration your spells in all the games except for Demons and 2 because you had infinite consummables to refill your casts.

>>171469592
All of the arguments are above. You can address them or go back to /v/ to continue shitposting with your kind.

>>171469668
Prince Lothric really was a cool experience imo.

>>171469625
well meme'd, you got me

>>171469668
NK and demon prince
also
>being pedantic

Best lvl for late game/end game co-op in DS3? or PvP for that matter.

>>171469724
Forgot that one, but does it really count if you actually focus on Lothric in phase two

>>171469703
I literally just got up to dragonslayer armor on a sorcerer thirty minutes ago. Your FP bar is even more of a braindead obvious choice. You fire your most efficient spell until it goes to less than one ashen estus, then sip.

Or are you telling me you went into a boss room spamming exorbitantly expensive spells for a negligible damage increase?

DS3 especially is (great)heavy soul arrow: the game.

B O N E F I S T

>>171469810
>but does it really count if you actually focus on Lothric in phase two

he starts with a new full healthbar, it very much counts.

>>171469703
>cast dark bead 3 times
>boss dies
>cast vestiges/BF with 2/3 sippies at best
>boss dies

Such hard rationing

>>171469776
Well, NK doesn't really refill, you just kill the birb first

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>>171468637

>>171469842
It will never happen sadly

But if it does by some miracle I will jizz on the spot

>>171469818
>hey let me use an example of a boss that doesn't have several healthbars in this discussion about several healthbars.

where you dropped on the head as a child?

>>171469848
But they are two different entities, I thought the whole issue is the same boss refilling its healthbar ala SoC

Oh well

>>171459614
I'm just trying out this game with dark souls 1. What build should I go with if I don't give a shit about spells?

>>171469921
They better fucking bring it back.

>>171469971
Sorcerer.

>>171469971
Just level Vit, End, Strength and Dex

>>171469971
Warrior
50 VIT
40 END
28 STR
40 DEX

>>171469324
Every single Souldborne game has done it at least once.
In DeS it was the Maneaters.
In DaS1 it was the Gargoyles and O&S
In DaS2 it was Ruin Sentinels and Lulu and Zulu.
In Bloodborne it was Witch of Hemwick.

The thing is, DaS 3 doing it is perfectly fine and acceptable to a point. But doing a third phase for Friede with all of her health returned to full without giving you the info you needed in a boss battle where the central element of the two first phases is it being a battle of attrition and they obscure the amount of overall health she has, it was badly planned. I understand that they wanted the third phase to be an "Oh shit!"-moment and I think that it was understandable, but I personally prefer if in the future they would keep the healthbars for single bosses as a single healthbar across phase changes as I think it worked better in Bloodborne like that.

>>171469971
This >>171470048. Warrior also starts with a longsword which imo is a really good weapon for beginners because of its really versatile moveset. While in DS3 it's just braindead R1 spam

>>171470117
Multiple simultaneous health bars from different bosses =! the same health bar suddenly refreshing itself

Since miracles got fucked in Scholar, how should I level a cleric (pref. STR focus because I love the mace and greatswords)? Unless lightning spears are actually still good at 50 faith

>>171469932
>example

Are you actually autistic? You realize I've already killed Watchers to get to that point, certainly. You also realize that I already know which bosses have multiple HP bars. I'm asserting that either you have not played a spellcaster in 3, or you're actually a moron, because anyone who has knows that you use soul arrows for 95% of the game, and this is coming from someone who had to flash sword Pontiff to death.

>well I can do 500 damage for 11 FP or 600 for 35
>oh well it's a boss, I'll just do the latter!

Said nobody ever.

"Rationing" in boss fights is not a thing. It's a vague, fictional mechanical paradigm you've made up so you can wave your hands and blame it for your own ineptitude. You use estus when you need it, or else be terrible, die, and start making excuses.

>>171470239
Defender's GS is a great option. For miracles I'd say get great heal, heavenly thunder, maybe blinding bolt (use spices to reduce the stupid 64 fth req)

>>171469810
Imo Lothric doesn't count because you know Lothric is there while you're fighting Lorian.
SoC was alright because his health was balanced so the second phase doesn't fuck you over too much.

My issue is Friede because she has more health than the ancient dragon in all of her phases combined so health conservation becomes really important especially in the second phase which is like designed to strip you of all your spare heals.

>>171470117
>the central element of the two first phases is it being a battle of attrition
In what way are they more a battle of attrition than eany other fight?

>>171470239
Sunlight Spear and Heavenly Thunder still do lots of damage, Blinding Bolt is pretty good for big bosses
Sunlight Blade is still good, mind that buffs in DaS2 favor large base damage
Primarily your advantage is heals mitigating resource usage, so don't neglect ATT

Get the Lost Sinner's Sword, infuse with lightning, buff it, hit shit for 1000+

>>171470224
But they do refresh themselves. You can literally kill biggie and smalls at the exact same time, and the other will gain super powers and full health. THAT actually fucks people over the first time, because they try hitting whichever is more convenient and to try and whittle them both down at the same time. Hemwick does the same thing, though she starts as one and becomes two instead. Gargoyles may as well, since you don't actually know there's going to be a second one until halfway through.

Either way it comes down to "How could I know?!" about a boss changing it up, which is retarded.

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The moment I saw the words multiple healthbars pop up itt I knew some autist would start arguing about it.

>>171470542
I can't tell if /dsg/ attracts people who are genuinely this autistic or if someone is just pretending to be retarded for the sake of a stupids argument.

This shit happens every fucking day and it's always something equally as petty and whined about in the same autistic manner. Nigga needs a hobby.

>>171470449
Blackflame Friede fucked my ass because I'd gotten greedy in the second phase, but all I did was curse myself for chugging so much, decide to not get greedy and waste heals, and then I beat her the second time. It's that simple.

It's not like the game steals estus from you. You're ACTUALLY raging at Dark Souls for killing you, by giving you imperfect knowledge. "I would have beaten the boss if they didn't get this extra thing halfway through!" is some intense kind of autism for a game built on constantly throwing unknowns at you and forcing you to deal with it.

>>171470542
It's unironically one of my favorite features of the series. I love the "oh shit!" feeling when the boss gets back up and puts on his srs bsns face

>quality
>pyro
>sorcerer
I am finally ready for TRC. Any chance we'll get some super powerful magic for sorcerers? Their magic damage seems a bit too low for all the gear and stuff I've invested into em.

>>171470542
>>171470671
It's the same guy every time, still mad about Freide.

Just like it's the same guy who argues about the theological definition of gods in his head.

Just like it was the same guy endlessly posting "dragonsis" scalefag garbage every damn thread.

These threads aren't exactly large.

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>>171470684
doubt it, pretty much all the DLC magic thus far has been utility / niche

if we're getting any powerful magic it's probably going to be a buff to pre-existing ones like soul stream

>>171470458
Because you're almost liable to get hit by Ariandel while focusing on Friede and the other way around. Both of them have huge area of effect attacks and trying to take the fight in a time efficient manner likely will get you to take a lot of damage due to the shit camera that obscures Friede wjile fighting Ariandel and she can keep hitting you through him and vice versa.

It's different from other bosses because after the gank squad you're still expected to fight a boss with totally full health afterward.

>inb4 2 hard 4 u

The Old Hunters bosses were much harder for me but felt much more fair.

>>171470684
If you have the dusk crown, both dragon rings, magic clutch ring, a +10 court sorcerer's staff, and the scholar's candlestick, with 60 INT, your magic damage should not be any definition of low. You should in fact be hitting quad digits with little effort.

>>171470768
You mean not paying attention when fighting more than one enemy gets you hit? Yup that happens.

>>171470768
Old Hunters felt much more fair than the rest of Bloodborne overall.

Except Orphan of Kos, because "Haha fuck you I'm going to break lock-on, leap over the camera's maximum elevation, fly through the air, spit a gigantic AoE nuke on you with variable distance, and land somewhere else" x1000 was by no definition good design.

>>171470206
>Implying ds1 also isn't just mashing
Delusional

>>171470934
I liked that though, OoK still gives me vietnam style backflashs and beating that little shit is just really satisfying

>Soul Stream
>45 INT, 2 slots, 55 FP
>Takes four whole seconds to charge up in fast paced game with bloodborne enemies
>Very loud and obvious tell
>Small functional hitbox, getting clipped will do 1/4th the damage
>No tracking whatsoever, immobile while casting
>The one purpose it had, long range, was heavily nerfed
>Does about the same damage as a soul spear
>Found in the penultimate area of the game

Dark Souls III magic

>>171470206
>longsword which imo is a really good weapon for beginners because of its really versatile moveset
>While in DS3 it's just braindead R1 spam

WA aside, doesn't the longsword have the exact same moveset in DS1 & DS3?

>>171470934
AAAAH
AAAAAAAAAH
AAAAAAH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>171471114
yeah but who the fuck uses R2s in ds3?

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>>171470812
I feel it's low relative to pyros. They slap on old witches ring and maybe great swamp ring and just melt the fuck out of anything and everything. I feel sorcery is lacking that kind of nuke. Like Soul Stream isn't really that much more damaging than Crystal Soul Spear.
>>171470762
Damn. Well here's hoping for some good patch notes.

Also I can just boost int and faith each by 5 to 45 and equip the uzalith catalyst on my pyro to become a dark magic user right?

I was thinking
>pursuers
>black flame
>dark blade

>>171471094
Wait, when was the range nerfed? I haven't touched it since the hilarious early days of one-shot host sniping.

>>171459614
Why are there more Lothric knights?

>>171470768
But they are incredibly passive in phase 2. Friede refuses to do anything but ice mines if you don't move nearby and you can roll through the frostbite proc, making her just waste time but not be dangerous. You can walk all over the room doing nothing for a long time without dying even.

>>171470674
>you are raging at the game for giving you.imperfect knowledge
I'm not raging, I'm criticizing it. I'm not the same guy who brought it up, but I agree with him that in Friede fight it felt excessively artificial especially when you have to keep repeating the bossfight.

It would not worry me too much to have the Friede bossfight as a singular thing but I feel like they're going to use that mechanism again in all TRC bosses as a cheap method of adding "difficulty" into the bossfight.

In Bloodborne there are bosses with an ASSLOAD of health, but you can be tactical and anticipate the phase change, then just fucking unload on them at the spot where they're going to morph into the final phase. In DS3 when they shit out a new healthbar and heal to full it feels like you lost that tactical freedom in addition it being just an aggravating element when you have to keep second guessing if the boss is going to shit out a 4th or a 5th form. I'm not raging about Friede, but I would dislike it if they continue the trend for bosses to shit out new healthbars because it makes the fight seem more challenging.

>>171470812
What would be the go to INT weapon? Crystal Sage Rapier?

>>171471184
Quite a while before the DLC hit
It can't reach across the catacombs bridge anymore to give you an idea

>>171471136
What, did you expect it to wax poetic about the sorrows of its deceased mother or something? It's a literal ayyylmao baby.

>>171471174
I have yet to really try pyro. I'll see how that turns out. Pyromancy softcaps at 40/40 instead of 60/- right?

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>>171471168
Literally everyone, especially since you can charge R2s in DS3.

>>171470426
>>171470497
How high should I take STR if I'm going to infuse my weapons with lightning then?

>>171471227
That, GoJ, or MLGS

>>171471203
The dreg heap is a smoothie of all the kingdoms from the dawn of the age of fire. You start off with the ruins of Lothric, proceed to earthen peak ruins from DS2 then Firelink shrine ruins where you fight the demon prince. Past that is the ringed city which was made in Gwyns time. There's clearly a theme of going further into the past the deeper you go

>>171471227
Crystal sage rapier is actually pretty disgustingly good. The only difficult part is scrounging up titanite scales before endgame.

>>171471239
Then why does it even exist? You'd think it should annihilate anyone dumb enough to actually get hit by it at this point.

>>171471263
just get the base requirements and infuse them with lightning

Is running R2 the only attack that is always unparryable?

>>171471224
I'll agree that I prefer they not do double resurrections on any more bosses.

>>171470934

I liked the breaking lock on of Orphan.

It made it so you had to throw another button into the fight

>>171471168
R2s are never good on PvE except for ranged ones sometimes. Never R2ed in my DaS SS runs because 2 r1s are plain better

>>171471351
No, all ultras 2 handed (except rolling and running R1s) and whips are unparriable

>>171470885
Notice how I'm not complaining about Ruin Sentinels, Abyss Watchers, Gank Squad, Shadows, Gargoyles, Maneaters, or even Lulu and Zulu.

That's because they don't obscure the camera to shit and swing through each other while you can't see the other one, they're timed, take turns or the arena allows you to separate them.

>>171470934
Bloodborne base game bosses for the most part were really easy, barring some chalice encounters.

>>171471094
This is something that plagues every souls game.
They decide upon a 'maximum damage' threshold for balance reasons and high-tier or single-hit damage focused attacks gradually fold together as they approach this maximum threshold because they just run out of bigger numbers to give things.
You end up with situations like what you described, where the practical damage difference between CSS and soul stream is minimal but the latter has far more limitations that would normally be associated with higher damage. It was designed with a larger damage difference in mind, but when they plugged in their balance formula, it didn't really allow for that damage difference because CSS was already too close to the cap.

This is a thing, by the way. Companies with huge sporeadhseets full of weapon stats don;t do balancing by hand. They have an algorithm that weights things like weight, auxilliary effects, weapon-class and so on to fill in precise numbers for everything. This is why you generally get weapons with bleed being direct downgrades over alternatives, and why you get weird outliers like the carthus sword where being a curved sword with a lot of weight tricked the system into overcompensating every other stat area. This is also why release FUGS was insane and then hastily overnerfed

>>171471405
I hated that it involved jumping up so high you couldn't actually see him, and had to guess nuke timing by AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH cues.

>>171471343
Closing questions regarding str/fth build in scholar:
>So there's no point in going up to 40-50 strength?
>which is better for such a build: base requirements for weapons and 50 faith,or STR softcap and base faith requirements for buffs like sacred oath and sunlight blade

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>no r2 combos
>charged r2s are the same attack as uncharged
>forced to use charged r2s to knockdown with heavy weapons, making them slower than das1/das2 versions for that purpose

Why make Bloodborne but worse?

>>171470885
To be fair, Freide's giant ice carpets are really not feasible to fully avoid if she gets behind Ariandel when she uses them. Though you can evade the explosions if you're lucky and quick, you WILL get frostbitten if she does it enough.

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>>171471251
Yeah but on the way try an keep em equal for the highest spellbuff.

Oh and get the Onyx Blade.


That reminds me, Pyros really are Froms favourite school aren't they?

Sorcerers have a tough time dealing with magic resistant enemies whilst pyros get black flame and black flame orb which are actually good dark magic. They also get the Onyx blade ontop so anything fire resistant will get annhialated anyways.

>>171471447
Sorry, I meant is Running R2's the only attack that is unparryable for ALL weapons. Should have been more specific.

>>171471479
I am almost ready to believe that.

>>171470957
if you mash in 1 you get a mace to the face because the enemies have poise
meanwhile friede and the abyss watchers can literally be stunlocked forever

>>171471624
Me too, it makes sense.

>>171471569
Kicks.

You can kick them and score 2 free R1s off of it.

Nobody ever fucking expects kicks. Ever.

Optimal level for Aldrich invasions are level 60-70 right?

Will i be affected too much, by having +10 pyro flame and +5 whip?

>>171471547
>see frostbite bar filling at consistent oace
>roll when it's near the proc
>take no damage

Woow

>>171471405
To be honest, I hardly even noticed it. I think issues like that mainly affect people that find the lockon robust enough to rely on through most of the game and never learn how to coordinate basic camera control while fighting.

I notice this when watching a lot of other people play the game, but they have no idea how to control the camera at all. Like, even when they're just walking around the game world, they have the camera fixed and angled slightly down, staring at the ground directly ahead and missing any important visual environment cue. The only time they move their camera is when they need to turn it around a corner or see enemies to lock on to. The only degree of camera control they want is clicking a button to put the camera in control of the game every now and then. It makes me laugh thinking of all the people who totally missed the point of "Behold! A paleblood sky!" because their camera was buried in the cobblestone and didn't bother to look up at the sky even when they read a note that told them "LOOK AT THE SKY HOLY FUCK"

Players who aren't expeciernced with 3d action games become very averse to expressing anything more than the bare minimum control over the camera, almost pathologically. It's a well-documented phenomena and part of why there's been such a push for motion control (and VR) to make camera-control, which is otherwise an necessary and inherent aspect to most 3d games, more intuitive.

>>171471689
Speaking of kicks, does using that fucking Horse ring Patches sell worth the Ring slot? I've never used it, but wouldn't it imply that you can 1 kick Greatshields?

>>171471650
>get hit by mace
>ignore it because I have more poise than any human sized enemy while I hit thrice with my CS

>>171471778
>Horsehoof Ring and Knight Slayer Ring are useless. Source 1, source 2.
Read the OP.

>>171471704
You're misunderstanding.

Freide announces her intention to shit frost everywhere by doing a stupid pose, leaping back through the air, and attacking the floor, where the frost gradually spreads towards you.

If she does all of that elaborate while fatass Ariandel is in the way, you effectively have no idea she's done it, and have no way of seeing the frost coming until it passes Ariandel, in which case you're almost definitely not going to avoid it if you're in melee with him. By the time you roll off of the ice, you've taken a lot of frost buildup that'll take some time to dissipate. If you're unlucky, she'll repeat it several times and frostbite you.

>>171471847
>If you're unlucky, she'll repeat it several times and frostbite you.
Ooooh nooooo

Munch a fucking moss, you baby.

>>171471847
Isn't it possible to mova sideways in order to keep the boss in sight?=

>>171471697
I get the most activity at 40-50 +5.
+10 seems a bit much.

>>171471726
This is all factually correct, however lock on is actually important in Bloodborne because it changes how your dodging works, and you must be locked on to use quick steps.

what's the most entertaining playstyle and why is it two-handing a huge sword while wearing medium armour?

>>171462682
Iron keep had the bridge. Good spot cause of pvp and the view of the main building. And the throne is interesting, if you take the time to look around. Domed ceiling, the kiln, the golems.

>>171471520
Weapon skin diversity over moveset diversity. At least we have weapon arts even if a lot of them are stupid buffs..

>>171471947
Quicksteps are less good than rolling against ranged attacks like the orphan's bombardment.

So, I heard rumblings in the last thread about TRC's entrance being inaccessible past Dancer. Is there any truth to that? What was the source?

>>171471887
The fuck are you on about? I'm trying to give a possible example of what that dude could be referring to as "attrition".

>>171471912
Freide super jumps a lot faster than you.

>>171471847
But the frost never damages you until it fills. There is nothing stopping you from chilling there until the bar fills and rolling so you take no damage and become immune to the buildup for a while unless Ariandel does the charge.

>>171472004
It'll still fuck people up who were just locked on an instant ago and now have their dodge controls changed right before they need to dodge. It's understandable for Kos to trip you up even if you're someone who can fight unlocked just fine.

>>171472009
It's made up, like everything else you read here.

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>>171472059
>There is nothing stopping you from chilling there
>chilling

>>171472059
>nothing stopping you from chilling there

Except the giant guy with a gold bowl we just established is right in your face and probably about to rush you.

Like I said though, it's an edge case, but I can imagine it contributing to someone feeling like phase 2 involves unavoidable chip damage.

>>171472009
Until you see a video of someone entering the DLC take everything with a shaker of salt.

>>171462757
As a whole, yes, but it doesn't have a spot that particularly stands out. Outside of mimicing the area, there's really nothing to add.

>>171472080
>their dodge controls changed right
Your controls don't change, you just gain extra distance and more iframes.

>>171472009
That rumour came from here. Some autist made it up and I assume he probably posted it on whatever shithole you lurk after we didn't buy it.

Bamco has gone on record as late as PAX saying they had no official word on the DLC's entrance location yet (as in, it wasn't finalized yet so they didn't even have information to share). Anybody claiming to have "leaks" or telling you otherwise is just being "that kid" and making shit up for attention.

We have a cancerous discord that's basically an sanitarium for trannies and pasty white nerds from foreign countries with mental illness, so they churn out shitposts and desperate ploys for attention constantly.

>>171472189
How many i-frames do you even get in BB?

I always see people talking about it but I've never seen a number and the only info that I can find on the wikis is that the backstep has no i-frames.

>kill the giants before going to patches
>he rants about where the fuck is the giant
top kek
>>171471806
>get damaged
>vs
>stunlock enemy forever and kill him unscathed

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>>171472080
>>171472165
>>171472308
>in summary: faggots making shit up, like normal

Roger. Thanks, anons.

>>171472375
I don't have the exact numbers, but as far as I know, quickstep has fewer iframes but faster recovery while roll covers more distance with more iframes but takes longer to recover. QS is generally better up close because you can transition back to attacking more quickly, and can be chain-spammed more quickly when you're panicking.

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>>171472308
Would you say it's a cesspool of degenerates?

>>171472546
Couldn't be better

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>mfw this track plays during a boss fight in TRC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtHDsw4FioQ

if I'm planning to do str/faith is it a good idea just to help people out at the abyss watchers to get it over with?

>>171471726

With Orphan, when you're locked on, you only need to dodge past him when he attacks to get behind him, and then you're good to hit him (if he attacks twice in a row, you just dodge twice).

It's just a simple dodge one way then hit fest without the second phase messing your camera up. So then, people will have to lock on again.

If you don't lock on to him as you fight, he's just far too fast to get behind him for most people.

Hence, the breaking of lock on is there to force you out of the nice dodge behind him routine.

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>the hyperarmor on the Lucerne WA
This thing is fucking brutal in PVP. Why isn't it used more often? It absolutely destroys with the Leo Ring on, and has great range to boot.

>>171472774
oh yeah, isn't all of lucerne's damage piercing?

>>171472754
It's always a good idea to powerlevel, anon. Don't let anyone tell you different.

>>171472774
Lucerne was top-tier metashit for most of the game's like. It wasn't until AoA that glaive HA got nerfed with the poise changes. Spin Sweep still has godlike HA so its incredibly good but glaives in general have fallen out of favour now that they get hardcountered by spears

>>171470749
I don't mind multiple health bars if it's justified in game, like I don't have a problem with another boss coming in with another health bar halfway through or Lothric reviving Lorian in the twin princes fight. I didn't even mind Soul of Cinder since he was an amalgamation of lots of people and he was also the final boss of the game.

However I don't like Friede having a third phase, I don't know what the justification in-universe for her being able to revive twice in a row is other than "it's the dark I don't have to explain shit."

>>171472774
Because spears are basically better in every way now. Especially the Gargoyle Flame Spear.

>>171472754
You mean for sunlight medals?
I typically get more activity at the tree but early co-op is never a bad idea. It's much faster getting the medals in the first half of the game than the 2nd half

You have to kill the dancer to turn in your medals and need 30 of them for GLS (as well as 30fth to use it). That said, faith has an easy time killing dancer early thanks to Gnaw.

>>171472903
I feel like the Friede fight should've just been the second and third stages, the first stage is pretty much an ADD check that might take a sip or two from you if you lose concentration.

https://youtu.be/F61tviDEgi0?t=455
7:34
>dat Flame Fan damage
are these showcase streams on NG+ or something?

>>171472991
I see the first phase as a warmup for phase 3 desu.
Which reminds me, does anyone have that picture of the Manikin Mask on fire with the caption "Warmup"? I need it for shitposting purposes. They'd better bring that set back in TRC.

>>171472916
>That said, faith has an easy time killing dancer early thanks to Gnaw.
People keep saying this but I have a way easier time with Dark Blade and acrobatics. Maybe I'm just not used to the casting lifestyle.

>>171473153
The point behind Gnaw is that it lets you keep a relatively safe distance. Her damage is balanced for later game so challenging her early leaves you likely to die in 1 or 2 quick hits.
Dancer has shitty gap-closers and is weak to both bleed and dark, so Gnaw is ideal for fighting her no matter what your skill level is.

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>>171473149

Anyone have a (mugenmonkey) link/picture to a cookie-cutter 60FAI build?

>>171471520
You pussy.
Plenty of weapons have transitions to r2's, like bkg or bkgs. Some of r2s are great rollcatches, also charged r2s often confuse people.

>>171473149
I'd love for them to bring back the original mask but the replacement is just as good cause its silly af.

>>171473265
>Dancer has shitty gap-closers
My game must be broken. When I tried to Gnaw her ass it was constant leaps and running slashes. The leap is easy to avoid and punish, but that slash is horrible. I'm probably just too impatient, to be honest.

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>>171472903
>the justification in-universe for her being able to revive twice in a row

"When the Ashes are two, a flame alighteth."

Apart from it being prophetic bullshit, it could be that there's some connection between you and Friede that we don't know the true depths of yet. I don't mean, like, you're related or anything, but Friede's black flame is said to be essentially burning Humanity--it burns with the same "inner light" that all humans have. It could be that, with Ariandel's fire finally kindled, and with you, another bit of Ash present, there was enough power to provide a final spark to ignite the Humanity inside Friede.

aint nobody at aldrich? :(

Man what's the deal with Dark Souls having completely unknown area between bonfires, filled with an unknown number of enemies you haven't seen before, with unknown amounts of health, that you have to pass on your way to a bonfire in an unknown location.

You don't even have a map. Literally unfair amirite?

>>171459614
Fuck these goddamn bullshit dogs in anal rodeo's shit sewer, im done with this shit, every boss is a cake walk compared to each of these cunts

>>171470749
>It's the same guy every time, still mad about Freide

I too remember when /dsg/ was just one person
kys

>>171473624
What system? If you're on PC and set a password, I can help.

>>171473635
Sshh little Timmy, the adults have done talking already. Just eat your dessert and go to bed.

>>171473647
>faggot nigger dogs in Yahar'gul
>they're much harder than the boss

>>171473558
Friede's phase 3 is just her embering because she's unkindled.
Her embers are black because despite being ash, she's affiliated with the sable church and her own powers are dark in nature.

She comes back in phase two because Ariendel releases the fire meant to burn the painting and she, as ash, becomes its vessel. Phase 3 is her own power, which she evidently held back until Ariandel was dead, either because she was concealing it from him or because she couldn't use it while they were still trying to contain the painting's fire to their vessel, since the fire obviously reacts to the power of ash.

>>171473686
pc. pw: dsg.
thanks. \[T]/

hey what if
slave knight gael is the final boss

>>171473682
t. guy mad at Friede

How to BKGS?

>>171473817
Sign's down at Anor Londo bonfire.

>>171473770
>her own powers are dark in nature
Citation needed. I mean not affiliation, but nature of londor stuff.

>you will never experience tower of latria again
>the singing woman
>HELP ME
>hentai jailers
>RING RING --> YOU DIED

>>171474102
Jokes on you, I'm yet to play Demon's

>>171473913
I beat Friede with the fucking millwood bow faggot.
I'm mad about from making lazy gameplay decisions.