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Uther rework hype edition

>What's new?

>Probius (shit), UI revamp (now LIVE)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581816/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581817/

>For Azeroth reactivated; get a WoW mount by playing Warcraft Assassins
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/

> Two Heads Are Better Than One; get your free Cho'gall (if you haven't already)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20602241/

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0dr6H2N02I

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20594604/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581824/
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581822/


>Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you Vikings on Tomb playing retards?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previous Thread: >>171211090
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>>171383805
these are pretty much how all of my losses have gone this season. its like clockwork
>have two levels over them the entire game
>win three objectives in a row
>destroy them in the level 10 fight
>get 16
>two people run off to a completely useless camp without clearing lanes and waiting for team to reset
>die and objective spawns
>lose 3v5 and they push our mid down because death timers
i can see it coming too but it's like there's no way you can tell them it's a bad idea
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>play two QMs
>both are pretty much lost on loading screen
When will they fix the matchmaking?
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>nobody noticed the massive stealth buff butcher got
this kills the vikings
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>>171385643
never because it's an absolute meme queue? i'm pretty sure a couple seasons back blizz actually said they weren't ever gonna do anything
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>>171385645
Sure, hit me up on those buffs.
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Guys, this new UI is job fucking well done. I can't believe it hasn't been the UI since launch. It's just that logical.
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>>171383805
>take boss on sky temple without enemy team noticing
>enemy team are clustered around mid fort and we're a talent tier up
>they're somehow injured, we're mostly uninjured
>we can wrap around and collapse on them and probably win a teamfight right here
>ping head up with team
>except malfurion and muradin who wordlessly fuck off to help the boss push
>the boss already has siege camps supporting it
>only barely survive the fight and win a fucking 3v5 because of a godly Horrify and the enemy thrall having the biggest vagina between his legs
Game was nearly thrown right fucking there because of "hurr we're gonna do this instead of following the team".
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>>171386804
Forgot to mention it was OUR Mid fort they were clustered around trying to take down.
So if we popped out behind them, especially with a Horrify, they were stuck between a rock and a very hard place.
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>Towers
>Get 3 picks for our 2 lost in a team fight
>some asshole pings boss
>not even level 10
>they both go for it, even started it without me
>waste 30 seconds before we have to back
Horseman is too fucking tough at early levels without the right comp.
Just get keeps.
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>>171386804
>go fo an engage without 2 people there
>engage instead of your tank
You're supposed to follow your tank, not the other way around
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>>171387384
We didn't realize until too late that Muradin and Malfurion had wordlessly fucked off on their own.
It was a 5 second walk between boss and them.
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>>171387536
>somehow don't realize you're only 3 and your engage isn't there so you engage on your own
You 3 were throwing, even when it was the correct decision to go for a fight there
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>>171387384
>push side lane with the boss
>they obviously see it and now you have to play the siege game without even being able to end most likely
versus
>let the boss eat a little xp and go mid
>wipe them
>send people to get a free push with the boss
>send one or two to clean up and push the lanes for even more xp and stack pressure with the bruisers

seems dumb to me
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>>171387654
We pinged and moved towards the enemy team, Malf and Mura were moving with us until they just turned the fuck around and ran to bot lane.
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>>171387654
The majority rules in HotS regardless.
It's better for 5 retards to do something than 4 retards and a lone wolf.
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>brawl
>everyone is Tyrande
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What the fuck is the new Gazlowe build? hotslogs doesn't make any sense for him, it is a bunch of random talents and the carousel is showing complete nonsense.
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>>171388357
well if i was the only one trick gazlowe in GM i would probably pick random shit and mess up the data for memes too
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>towers of doom
>I'm muradin
>we win early game despite having a king feeder zuljin
>way ahead in both shots and xp
>they're 11, we're 12 1/2
>temple phase coming up soon
>enemys go to push bot as 5 without sappers
>we were on all lanes, I'm top and go mid everyone else goes bot
>tell my team to not fight and that I'm doublesoaking
>get 13 but king feeder dies and gets someone else killed
>still get the temples
>the fucking same thing happens right before we're at 16, 3 of us go push in top without sappers and king feeder dies
>enemy team pulls out a lead, gets even on towershots
>they get 20 when we're 18
>it happens a third fucking time, king feeder gets himself killed right before 2 temple phase, we're at 11 core but each shot counts 2
>decide there's no way to win except if I get a 1on1 fast
>force engage on their kerri but their team is close and collapses on me
>pull out all cds and survive for a bit, they ultimatively kill me and get both shots before king feeder is up
>team blames me for throwing when we literally had to win a 4v5 against 20 there to not lose
>king feeder at 8 or 9 deaths sends me fuck you whisper after game
At master mmr too.
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>>171388357
>What the fuck is the new Gazlowe build?
Pick a better hero as your first talent, then build around that.
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>>171385643
What's wrong with it?

I hope you're not suggesting the game mode that lets you pick any hero without any foresight, knowledge, or planning of the opposing team's picks, or even your own team's picks should be designed to always match you perfectly against the people you counter.
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>turn off chat because losing spree
>win all games
>can't say gg and wp when team plays really well
eh
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>>171388357
He has no coherent "build" anymore, they broke the turret synergies and the lazor synergies.
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>>171389357
Damn it. I mean, I ended up doing the most popular build with Gravo instead of Robo and it was... okay. It actually felt better than old Gaz a bit (I never did bomb or lazer build).

What sucks is despite my turrets being great, they still die to two AAs from any decent damage dealer. Like a quarter charge Zarya was melting them.

>>171388797
Haha, very good. QM tho.
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>>171390128
Make a turret build. Hold ground in lanes and take camps.

There, that's all.
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STOP PLAYING CHOGALL HE'S SHIT
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>>171390294
So, still avoid trying to hit enemy heroes with AAs?

Is Regen Master really the best choice? That bothered me the most.
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>>171390363
PREPARE FOR TROUBLE
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>>171390363
>Trying to level Liming
>Everyone playing Chogall
Welp
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why is bhb so fucking big
>def mercs hitting keep bot
>enemy team doing boss top
>rotate top
>open bottle of water
>take a few sips
>barely ship in mid
>keep walking top for another 15 sec
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>Picking a hero before being matched with people
>Game matches me with a team with no tanks against an enemy with 2 tanks and 3 ranged DPS/burst
This is a fucking mistake. They tried to look different than LoL at the price of balance.
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Why has 4 man wall rush not become a thing yet?
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>>171391387
lol had something called team builder, where you assembled your team before queuing
don't know if it's still in
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>>171391601
Every lol queuing aside from aram has a team builder.

EVERY MOBA HAS A FUCKING TEAM BUILDER FOR RANKED AND UNRANKED
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>>171391435
too much coordination
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>>171391387
Are you calling characters like Sonya tanks? They changed that recently.
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>>171391682
>queue up for any unranked mode in lol
>it takes 10 minutes to find a game because nobody picks support ever
>5 people forget to accept the queue
>5 more people dodge the queue
>finally get into a game but some idiot is basically int feeding because 'its just a normal xDDD'

ill take bad comps in qm any day
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I'm actually afraid to play anymore after losing 7 in a row due to teams (comp or otherwise) being bad.
What do
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>>171392271
play brawl
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>>171392331
i would play the shit out of it but theres no reward or incentive so its dead after the first day.
that said, good idea. It'll make me less salty
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Is there actually an Uther rework coming soon?
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>tfw you lose every engagement but it's okay because Azmodan's demons are pushing down their keeps and they just ignore it because they're obsessed with murdering you
Why does this keep fucking happening to me
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>>171392586
Yes, it was confirmed on leddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5zrt0t/hello_rheroesofthestorm_weve_brought_in_our_live/df2arqa/?context=1
tl;dr/I'm a tribalist internet faggot who won't click a link:
>a little info about Uther. He's going to have more frequent self-healing without sacrificing his ability to save others, have the ability to provide short bursts of Armor to allies, and will have an entire tier at level 7 that is built around countering disables in different ways.
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i can't fucking stand this retarded parry build
they need to nerf that shit, remove protected please
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>>171392271
i just made a smurf
fuck playing unranked
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>>171392961
Wait, so they gutted the stun, making him have fuck-all CC and now you want the other talent nerfed despite it being trash earlier?
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>>171392271
>>171392507
Never play ranked on weekends.
If you must, take 5 minute breaks between each game.
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The real question is who's the next hero that's coming out?
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>>171393791
KelThuzad or Terrok
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>>171393831
>Terrok
Who? No really who.
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Is Kerrigan any fun?
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>>171394618
Yes very. Get yourself a pocket Tass or Medivh for even more fun
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>>171393920
An irrelevant bird.
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>>171394618
Her combo and last hitting waves of minions is.
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>>171393791
WIIIIINDS
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>>171393920
A minor character in wod but people here and reddit keep asking for him for some reason.
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>>171395028
I thought it was a meme, dip, etc.

No one actually wants him.
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>when your Heroes of the Dorm bracket dies on the very first match

rip free Kerrigan
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Which of these heroes should I buy next?
Lucio and Medivh are the only I dont have at level 5
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>>171395547

Buy ur mom
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>>171395547
buy
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>171395547
Buy johanna with the spellbreaker skin.
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>>171395547
lucio is all around the best
varian/johanna second
rest are all situational
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>>171395547
Monk/Alarak/Lunara/Leoric depending on what role you like the best
After that Varian, Chromie, Medich and Lucio
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>>171396198
>medich
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>>171395547
>green
should own
>yellow
up to your preference
>red
mostly a waste of gold
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>>171396351
t. wood
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>>171396351
>Lunara
>waste of Gold

I'll fight you m8
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>>171396351
>Lunara and Lt. Morales
>red
>Uther
>not red

Your opinions are shit but mostly accurate other than those three
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>>171396110
>>171396351
Did Jo get buffed or something also the Spellbreaker skin not having a glaive is a dealbreaker
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>>171396656
Jo has consistently been a power hero since her release, she has never fallen out of the meta.
Now is the weakest she's ever been, and only because she's now kinda bad at dealing with mages. (Truly ironic for the spellbreaker skin)
Better than ever at dealing with attackers, though.
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>>171396905
>(Truly ironic for the spellbreaker skin)
Blizzard sure loves comedies
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Survey time again /hotsg/
Have you spent money on skins/heroes/mounts?
If so, what did you buy?

In my case, I really like High Elves so I gave in and spent 3 bucks on Ranger General Sylvanas.
Pretty tempted to get Crown Prince Arthas too.
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>>171397521
no
everything is so fucking expensive in this game
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>>171394834
Knowing the hots team they might give us Prince thunderaan instead.
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>>171396606
Lunara is terrible
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Tilt in full effect here. 5 straight losses in my placements.
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>>171393791
>>171394834
>>171397636
what about murmur
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>>171397862
Murmur is a sound elemental, not a wind.
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>>171391054
>not having the bottle of water open before the match starts
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>>171397862
>implying Blizzard remembers Murmur
They still didn't add Therazane in hearthstone
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>>171384754
What's the news on Uther rework?
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>>171393791
Mei. Short ranged warrior
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>>171398084
I've spilled stuff on electronics one time too often to know where that leads
rip PSP
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>>171395547
Leoric, Alarak or Kharazim.
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>that guy who hearths after getting a camp
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>>171398657
>Thicc* ranged warrior.
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>>171398738
I dropped my PSP in the toilet bowl at the airport still filled with diarrhea and motor oil and it worked after letting it dry in a bag of rice.
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>>171399381
well, it wasn't water
it was a way more sticky and sugary soup-like drink
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U AHR HEELED

DO NAHT FEER
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>>171399823
imagine if a female belf's armor could look this good
i'd probably roll a paladin
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>>171399381
Motor oil?
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>>171399381
I have so many questions.
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>turn on heroes of the dorm
>tomb of the spider queen
>the game has been going on for almost 30 minutes
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>>171395208
Cornell was the favorite, but Bellavue pulled through
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>>171396110
johanna having small breasts almost ruins her for me
but i'd be okay with a bikini/beach skin like stitches has
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>third blackheart bay of the day
kill me
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>>171400353
>Johanna in sports bra + spats
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>predicted cornell to win the entire thing
>lose first match

pieceso f shit i hope they all die in a car crash
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>>171400547
ASU will probably win again
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What's the reward for this Heroes of the Dorm shit?

Do you get the Kerrigan skin?
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>>171398738
yeah you right, i've spilt a full promo-movie-theatre cup of water and ruined my monitor (only i think; my tower used to make this weird, loud noise for a while afterwards but it's been a while since it's happened)
i started putting my drinks on the floor afterwards, but it's just too inconvenient so fuck it, i'm back to where i started
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>>171400393
The Main person who shouldn't have the coins have the coins.
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>>171400447
FUND IT
U
N
D

I
T
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How the fuck do I get this facebook stream in HD?

https://heroesofthedorm.com/watch
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can someone give me a quick rundown on how to play rexxar?
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>>171400547
lol i don't know any of the teams or follow the ranked scene but i got lucky in choosing that cornell r losers :DD
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>>171401040
>Send Misha to attack
>Misha Dies
>Repeat
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>>171399231
>that guy who takes a camp and goes out with 10% hp and dies
???
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>>171401105
me neither, i just chose all randomly but chose cornell to win the entire thing

dont really care but it kinda sucks to lose instantly
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>>171400687
>no one contesting chests
LOOKS LIKE YOUR ENEMY'S
ALL PAID UP
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>>171401342
I had a match where my team had 52 coins, the enemy team had 0
It was fucking beautiful and we didn't throw either
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>>171400614
10k real cash if you do super great in predicting who will win, Kerrigan bundle including the skin if you do okay, a portrait for just participating.
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>>171400647
>i've spilt a full promo-movie-theatre cup of water
did you survive the tsunami?
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>>171400112
I was shitting and had a ziplock bag of motor oil in my pocket and it fell out when I stood up and my PSP fell out too and the baggy blew up begcause the pine cones in it ripped a hole in it
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>>171400798
cogwheel?
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Blackheart Bay?

More like Blackheart GAY
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C'MON FLORIDA DON'T FUCK UP MY ALREADY FUCKED UP BRACKETS
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>>171396656
AA comps still pre-emptively ban Artanis, while Jo rips into them the way Anub'arak diddles Li-Ming.
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i just realized the bribe icon is a pile of cash
i thought it was a christmas tree or smth
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>>171402439
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>>171402612
I always saw that as a black top hot with a red brim being torn on its right side so you could see the red silk inside.
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>>171402612
I always thought that icon was like a crab claw
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is zeratul actually that good or do people play him up so much because they hate valeera
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>>171403182
You should be used to setbacks.
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I have some free time again so I'm bringing this thing back from the dead. Gimme your ideas /hotsg/
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>>171401910
well that just raises even more questions!
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>>171402612
there's so many warcraft icons i see as other stuff
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I feel like Dehaka And Anub'Arak would be great friends.
Somebody write some decent fanfiction already
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>>171401342
fire that cannon

OR I'LL FIRE YOUR SKULL OUT OF IT INSTEAD
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>>171403509
>baby
>singular
Zerg birth in at least pairs, anon.
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so what went wrong with Probius?
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>>171402612
>>171402439
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>>171403893
i've only played against him, but his cannon (singular) seems incredibly dull
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>>171403831
she ate the other one
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>>171403985
She's a Zerg Queen.
Not a Defiler.
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which schools are LEAFS?
i want to specifically watch and cheer for them
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>>171403294
He invariably slaps my shit any time I have to fight him, but then again, pretty much all stealth characters do that to me so there's that.
Yes, this includes Nova
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>>171397636
Do you mean we'll get access to [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
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God, cheerleader Kerrigan needs to be a skin already.
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>>171403509
Change Li Li's box to
>Li Li's Lewd Brew
>Lube it up with these 5 tips.
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>>171403294
Your destiny

ends here
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>>171404149
i guess besides montreal, u of toronto, ubc, laval, waterloo, and u du quebec
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>>171403294
>qm
>everyone on my team is complaining about valeera being op
>know they'll get defensive if I point out they're overextending when alone
>so I just say "At least she's not as bad as Zeratul."
>"wtf are you talking about zera is shit"
I keep forgetting half the people on my team are bound to be gold.

Zera has mobility out the ass and does a shit ton of damage without having to commit as hard as Valeera does, while bieng gable to take a hit or two more.

His ult is just as game changing as Mosh Pit, but instead of having your team focus them you just jump on the people that weren't caught in it.
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>>171403893
He's both a burst mage for no apparent reason, and has undertuned numbers.
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>>171404149
Canuck team is playing right now. Carleton (CAN) vs UC Irvine (USA).

Irvine is a heavy favorite. top 3
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>>171405371
>too late to make an all LEAF bracket
feelsbadman
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So what's this

It doesn't highlight anyone
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>>171405649
the lsot vikigns :))
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>>171405649
TLV for now
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>carleton v irvine
>etc and malf
so who the fuck did they ban?
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Canadians getting absolutely assblasted right now
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>Hero league
>First pick abthur
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>>171406382
>hover over probius
>my teammate bans it
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>>171405808
is this being streamed on Twitch?
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>>171407241
nope, facebook

shittiest streaming site desu
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>>171404415
Did Someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
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>open bnet
>immediately wants me to restart the client for an update
Just fucking update it before opening, why is this client so fucking awful?
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>>171407241
im just on the heroes of the dorm website
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>flamestrike kt
>8 deaths
>least damage on team
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>>171407916
Steam does the same thing.
Don't know enough about programming to say whether it's retarded or not.
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What ranks are these Heroes of the Dorm players?
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>Hosted on Facebook instead of twitch
>600 viewers
>last pick Chen
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>SPIN SEQUENCES GOOD

What did he mean by this?
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>>171410836
Zerg have a simple grammar. Their diction allows for detailed and funny quips that somehow manage to not fuck up the shit language that is Engrish.
He's saying that Li Li's got pure DNA.
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God what the fuck is with this fucking rage. Can't have a bad game go more than 6 minutes without some shithead opening their mouth and giving four other people his shitty opinion.

Seriously? What the fuck. I don't even recall leagues being this toxic.
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>>171403893
>his boost speed with Z is cancelled the moment it take damages which is stupid
>Q doesn't deal damages
>needs a combo to deal some damages
>people can get out of your W easily so you'll have difficulty to do the combo
>your pylons have a huge cooldown and you can't put both of them quickly
>end with less hero damages than the healers of the game

at least he can clean lanes easily, but he won't be able to solo lane too.
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>>171411465
atleast you get into games. Spent 15minutes in queue then gave up
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>>171411654
High gold/low plat is pure cancer.
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>>171403959
Man, I couldn't see it at first but now I literally can only see it.
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>>171411952
Bronze 5 - low masters are all cancer
If you want to compare the ranking system to league you have to account for the fact that many less people play hots
Say 1/5 as many people play hots as league, the top 200 in hots is as impressive as the top 1000 in league, top 2% top 10%
:/
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>>171411519
>>his boost speed with Z is cancelled the moment it take damages which is stupid
Is this for real?
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Blizzard has just hired you to fix Probius, how do you fix him?
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>>171412604
>Bronze 5 - low masters are all cancer
nah, plat and diamond are a special kind of cancer because they actually think they got good in any way after passing gold
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>>171395547
Johanna is a beastly tank, must play

Then I'd say Chromie for pubstomping
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Post some HotS related pictures
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>>171412919
Then what do you think entry level master is?
The worst past is that I still get into games with these people. It'll get better when the season ages and evens out
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>>171412850
Make him a builder.
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ABATHUR
BUFFS
WHEN?
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>>171412850
easy

>>171413138
>Then what do you think entry level master is?
luckers or people who are starting to learn i guess. the matchmaking is straight garbage is this game though i cant even begin to defend that
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>>171413254
>implying he needs them
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>Pulling enemies/pushing yourself toward enemies for pinpoint Discord Strike kills in teamfights
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>>171413291
It's okay, I'm still in diamond 3 after placements. I'm like 14/13
Maybe I lost 90% of my skill after the season but fuck, man.
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>>171413367
>t.nova picker
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>>171403893
Does a lot of damage if you land the W+Q combo, nice lane clearing but you depend on the opponent team being morons that run into the rift so you can blow them up. Pylon generation is really slow, and cannon doesn't do much. Highly recommend to run a W build than a cannon build, seems to be the most decent to run for until next patch.
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>>171412950
Nice.
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>>171413386
>pushing enemy team into near-death allies after picking pure malice at 13
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>>171413595
Adding to this, it's good to match up with a hero that has a disable like ETC, nazeebo or leoric so you actually manage to land the combo and do a lot of hurt.

It's not a hero for ranked though, but for pubstomping, especially since it's new and people don't know how to counter it, it's alright. Expecting buffs next patch though.
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I hope if they do make a bunch of changes to Probius, they won't shoehorn in more builder stuff.
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>>171412679
yeah, that means he can't really run away from fights.
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>>171412850
>increase range on W
>move some of the damage from W to the turret
>pylons have two charges with 10s cd
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>gazlowe only brawl
>one guy in my team instantly leaves before the game even starts
Great game mode Blizz
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I want to like Probius but fuck me having him rely on hitting a combo that's dependent on the enemy team being retarded and literally walking into your W (that also doesn't do any damage on its own) is retarded. The peashooter cannon is a joke, the Q is a joke on its own, the Z is a useless 5 second boost with a 40 second cd that can't be used as an escape.
And his range on everything feels gimped.
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>>171415163
Cant blame him to be honest
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>>171413467
just remember that as long as you can manage a 54% wr or better you will climb even if it seems slow
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>>171415386
Yeah he's shit. If his Q and W had better range even he might have atleast 45 winrate
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Daily reminder

;_;
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Post character themes. Go full cheese if you want, who cares.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSCAv3trnyo
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Anub'Arak is literally invincible, plx nerf
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>>171413829
>take pure malice
>walk away from a team fight
>full stacks
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>>171415475
ik still annoying
I think I'll get rank 1 this season though
I think I'm ready, I've seen the top and they're pretty shit, so
also zugrug is a stream sniping pos
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>>171416682
actually looking at the gm top 20 just now you probably have a good chance and i dont even know who you are
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I hate how cowardly people are in this game. 99% of games is just being poked to death because no one wants to go in and initiate. This heal+Poke while people get cowardly under their base is the reason we're losing, not because amzo decided to pick hero damage orb instead of siege damage.

FUCK
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>>171415619
BLACKED
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>>171417009
Anon you do know hero dmg orb is better than the siege one right
>muh honor
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>>171417009
This is the gayest shit I have read in this threads.
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>>171415906
just pick Valla or Zul'jin to murder kinkbug
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>>171417005
I'm the best player in hotsg
I mean #1 through the entire season
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>>171412850
>delete probius
>fire the faggot who keeps making meme characters
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>>171417959
i believe in you anon
who is your solo q demon
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>>171412850

This >>171412850
Then make an SC2 SCV pilot hero instead.
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>>171418474
Valla and Rehgar
sometimes Malf and auriel

I don't ever mage or warrior
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Alarak is pretty fun. What's the standard build on him? Lightning?
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>demotion game
>abathur
>lili
>arthas solo tnak
what have i done to deserve this
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>>171418852
Remove mana cost on telekinesis on first talent, full Discord Strike build, then pick telekinesis cooldown reduction, then both ults, then discord strike build.
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>>171418938
Which map?

Usually picking Samuro and afk farming helps in the lower levels.
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>>171418938
You clicked play on hots
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>>171412850
Buildings withing Pylon range gain effects of shield battery even w/o talent.
Level 13 talent now stacks for each pylon you're in range of
talents to increase range/radius on w.
Pylon cooldown talent.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>play against 5 stack in QM
>stomp them
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How do I become good with undead elf waifu?
In most of my games I just sort of go my own way, hope no one dangerous is on my lane and try to destroy structures and capture mercs.
However, if there is anyone on my lane who can actually defend himself, I'm usually fucked.
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>>171384754
Is Uther shit now, or does nobody play him?

I'm guessing is that he is suffering how Arthas was: dated vs newer heroes with far more options.

Also play buff stitches. The battlefield is now made of teleports and free safey safes.
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>>171418938
>enemy is 3 keeps down
>5 dead
>only one alive on our team is abathur
fucking irony
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>>171419827
>dated vs newer heroes with far more options.
He has every fucking support spell available. It's not called piano Uther for no reason. He's just squishy and has mana problems.
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>>171418675
why does rehgar feel so shitty to play lately
he was my go to healer for a while
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>>171419827
No part of uther's kit is viable. There are better VP combos and shield just isn't worth it
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>Nazeebo took Superstition against Valla + Greymane
what exactly am I watching
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>>171418938
>Ranked on the weekends
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>>171419827
>Also play buff stitches. The battlefield is now made of teleports and free safey safes.

what the fuck are you trying to say
did you even read that before posting
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>>171420212
i just want to get past the shit hole that is diamond 3 as quickly as possible
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>>171420205
>Didn't take Spirit Harvest with Toad build
holy shit this guy is awful
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>>171420068
Shield upgrade > healing totem > cleanse or CDR > bloodlust or ancestral > shield shield > wolf bite > storm shield (maybe rewind)
You're probably grabbing a crappy level 4, cleanse, and ancestral with crappy teammates.
Bloodlust will turn you into a man that can zone away that KT from hurting your team while they chase the rest of them down. Remember movespeed buffs are op
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>>171419827
>Also play buff stitches. The battlefield is now made of teleports and free safey safes

I wonder if the fellow had a stroke.
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>>171419774
You can always tell the shitter stacks from the good ones by their picks and how fast they react.

And by "good" I mean on voice comms, or like from what I've seen when I play against 5-stacks with "pro gamers" or streamers on them, everybody rushes to cradle that guy's balls above all else, so they end up working as a unit that revolves around that one guy.
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>>171420328
>>171420205
I think most people have a specific build and won't modify it, because it's what they are used to play.

For some heroes it actually works quite good, because they can have a specific build stronger than the others, but yeah that's just stupid to do no adjust some talents
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>>171420205
He's doing the AAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHH build.


It's actually a pretty good talent if you're gonna HHAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH assassins.
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>>171420205
As long as he's not being aa'd by those two damage dealers he's taking very reduced damage from the abilities that may actually be hitting him. By the time Nazeebo gets superstition it's not like he's solo laning against Valla or even skirmishing
It sounds like you're playing a very simplified version of hots and I urge you to rethink your style before complaining again about losing your promos to gold 5 you stupid fucking silver surfer
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>ranked
>enemy Kael
>Nova teammate
>Kael isn't constantly dead
>Dehaka on our team is making godlike tongues
>tongue on the first date
>tongue so good she'd cum three times
>tonguing so hard dat shit cray
>Nova just blows every snipe and builds for hologram
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>>171421501
>builds for hologram
What's the point.
If you want to have clones that are useful just pick Samuro.
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>>171421757
I find that half of the people who pick stealth do it because they don't want to deal with lane harass.
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>>171422003
And fear having to rotate in general.
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>>171421367
t-thanks but I'm just a plat shitter.
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>>171422003
I think an old Nova build let her bring out two buddies that would deal a substantial amount of damage.
Like a DPS Nova build I guess, I can't remember
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>hotslogs anti adblock script works again
how do i get rid of this shit
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>>171422003
I pick it because jumping niggers from behind is fun.
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>>171420378
>You're probably grabbing a crappy level 4, cleanse, and ancestral with crappy teammates.

nah i havent taken the wolf regen talent in a long time but i do default to cleanse>ancestral pretty much always. maybe i just have to spam him again, i pretty much replaced him with malf
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>>171422003
>last hitting is boring
>remove it
>laning is boring
>everybody picks shitty roaming assassins

zz

is there like an attention span thing going on, a friend of mine genuniely thinks Hots isn't popular because they're slow with new maps

when we already have a dozen fucking
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>>171422301
Don't replace him with Malf. There are times when I grabbed Malf instead and it worked out better.
Sometimes you have to go man mode to make that muradin on your team realize as buff + stun hammer is lots of fun
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>>171384754
>it's godlike Z is now replaced by a fucking shitdisgusting Shove piece of shit
>Gall damage removed to turn into a passive but actually active heoric ability because mah damage mah buttons mah playstyles and mah no buttons to press
>Cho no more has that god like Talent 75% damage crit for one hit in face after using E
>No more explosions kills into the bushes because it doesn't have that much damage to burst a healer anymore
It is us that we are bad, or Cho'Gall has been turned into stupid bullshit stuff?
We were the Ferrari Cho'Gall, this Gall's new Z is so bad you barely notice it.
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>>171422465
In my opinion, laning is boring because there's no last hitting. Last hitting was an objective to work on. You take that out, and people feel like there's nothing to do while soaking.

Does this mean HotS should bring back last hitting? I dunno, but people just swarm 5v5 mid in the first 5-10 minutes in pubs all the time because they're bored.

I think the maps that keep people in lane like Crypt of the Spider Queen and Dragon Shire have sort of the right idea in giving people a reason to not just hover around mid 24/7 but spider map has other problems, and that's only 2 of the 12 maps.

I miss last hitting from Dota.
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>>171422465
>Hots isn't popular because they're slow with new maps
Meanwhile LoL has like...two. Since it launched.
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>>171420205
link?
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>>171423216
Summoners Rift(5v5), Magma Chamber (unavailable but 1v1, 2v2), Twisted Treeline(3v3), Crystal Scar (5v5), Howling Abyss (5v5 or available 1v1/2v2)
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>>171423453
>Magma Chamber (unavailable but 1v1, 2v2), Twisted Treeline(3v3), Crystal Scar (5v5)
Oh right, forgot about these. Probably because nobody ever plays them
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>>171396351
>chen
>waste of gold
I'm fuckin triggered
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>>171423453
So, yeah. Basically one map. Then one for ARAM.

>tfw hots doesn't have an aram available at all times

It's nice that a teammate can't dodge if you don't trade them Kael'thas or Chromie, though.
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>>171423527
Haha. Yeah you're right.
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>>171423715
Yep

But you know what's funny about it though? Th
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>>171396351
>a waste of gold

wake me up

>>171423527
>magma chamber
rip
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>>171423790
: )
get fucked you little shit
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>>171423862
Don't listen to them Anon, Lunara is CUTE
And fun
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>>171423961
Rudefags leave this general.
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http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list this is the worst fucking tier list ive seen

now IM ANGRy
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>>171425072
>Outside of Quick Match his (her?) current kit is a liability.
>his (her?)
I'm not ready for the NWO
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>>171425072
What's wrong with it?
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>anubarak gets reworked, looking good
>if i go UD theres no guarantee ill get to play him
>really dont wanna play QM
>REALLY DONT WANT TO
>but its the only sure way ill get to play anubarak
>anubarak solo tank versus morales zuljin zeratul butcher artanis

ahahahahahaahaahahahaahAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>171422828
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if i get gm in like 2 days, how likely is that i'll stay gm for the rest of the season with a 55-56% winrate
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>>171428163
>The eye censors
kek
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>>171428185
zero because grandmasters and people around grandmasters actually play the game and will push you off the ladder
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>>171428408
of course i'll keep playing
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>>171428278
>>171428163
holy shit, just realised it. Nice one. Made me kek
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>>171428185
You'll be getting fucked so hard you might have to change your name to Probius
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>>171428163
>not censoring Sonya and Hammer's death timers
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Wow, Montreal got completey BTFO. Being French Canadian is like a super double negative.... French.... and Canadian.... wow....
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>L5 scheduled to btfo MVP Black once again
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are you people actually watching cucks of the dorm on cuckbook?
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>>171430446
Theres a site to watch it but i cant find it.
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>>171430531
>>171430446
the actual heroes of the dorm website???
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>>171430658
the site link you to facebook.
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>we need tank
>last picks illidan
>this guy is somehow gm #28
>keeps suiciding all game
sick
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>>171430869
because it's over for today
they had the video embedded on the site with the upcoming games on the side
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>>171430935
>Abathur on our team
>Kure on the other
>randomly, blindly flies onto a fort of ours
>where Abathur isn't even in the same lane
>hats fort
>shoots bird dwarf down
>later learn Kure is #1 or something

neato

how long do replays last, I figured this would've expired by now
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>>171430935
>GM#28
They got lucky, but due to Blizzard's shit ranked mechanics they'll get that portrait anyway, I realize that it's probably not special to have on me then.
I'll just have to keep that sweet #1 on me at all times
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Who's a better solo healer, Malfurion or Brightwing?
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How do I Valeera?
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>>171431432
I can post my Kure Alarak webm again if anyone wants to see it, honestly he's not a great player and out of like 9 games I've seen he's only won once
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Doesn't Sylvanas feel a bit... underwhelming?
I expected the Banshee Queen, leader of the Forsaken would be a more dangerous opponent 1 vs 1 but seems like half the cast wrecks her shit.
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>>171431607

>let's ignore every single person's win rate in the history of HotS except for my specific win rate vs. this one specific guy people think is good!

lmao
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>>171431607
I think it's a pretty good webm, desu.

>>171431803
>tfw her hero fantasy is turning buildings off
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>>171431909
Yeah you're right. He's a very good player and it is just coincidence that with and against me he's acted like a complete tard doing complete tard things.
Yeah only constant and all that jazz, I'm wrong
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>>171386804
>3 assassins leave the healer and the tank to go for a 3v5

ya definitely sounds like the game was almost thrown
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>Doing more damage than our Rag
>As Lucio
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>>171396656
Jo is weak for the first time in a year. Shes been shoved into a strong heal dependent anti aa tank.
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>>171431534
Malf
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>>171432976
screenshot or it didnt happen
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Is it just me or do I hear a distant scream in all maps time to time after the latest patch. Is that a secret hint for the next char?
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>>171419827
he sucks vs poke heavy teams
still pretty solid if you talent piano
that being said reghar is basically a better uther right now, unless you need an interrupt for some reason
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>>171432976
>memedamage
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>>171433616

I'm in a game right now, after that I'll fire up the replay and show you.

He lost 1v1 to an ETC too.
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>acolyte hero that summons ziggurats never
>obsidian statue/destroyer hero that replenishes health and mana and can switch forms never
>necro with cripple and frenzy never
>druids of the claw/talon with clone, FF, roar and bear form never
>mountain giant hero that can pull trees out never
>spirit walker hero with SL/ethereal form never
>kodo rider hero with wardrums never
>troll batrider that can kamikaze never
>a tauren hero that actually bashes skulls with a giant totem never
>spellbreaker with magic res/spellsteal/mana drain never
>flying machine hero never
>mortar team, a 2 player controlled hero never
>wc3 styled maps that replace minions with their respective wc3 counterparts and catas with ballistae/meat wagons/siege engines/demolishers never

it hurts so much
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>>171435139

>TLV on Brexit

Why would anyone do this
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>>171435251
>Brexit
kek
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>>171435251

QM
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I wish there was a QM that didn't allow free week heroes. Too many shitters plaguing this game.
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>>171395547
Varian desu. He's the first hero I've leveled to nine just from sheer fun in a long long time.
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>>171436821
>implying it would make a significant difference
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>>171433616

Here you go. Rag with less Hero damage than a fucking Lucio.
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>2017
>not picking archon pure power
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>>171436821
>I wish there was a practice mode where you weren't allowed to practice.
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>>171438118
>What is vs. AI queue
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>>171438194
Dumb bots aren't practice.
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>Hyperion Intensifies
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>>171438424

>h-hey man
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>>171409253
Chen clutch
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Brightwing going
Going going...
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>>171409253
>600 views
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>AHEM - YOH COH IS UNDEH ATTACK
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>MY WEBWEAVERS SHALL WEAVE A WEB OF DEATH UPON YOUR FOES...... QQQQQQQQQQQRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Winning a game easily
>Duo queuers decide to throw the game because ???
>lol cry more xddd

Why the fuck do mobas attract the worst sort of fucking shit cunts on the planet
>>
So goes the chain of ascension.
>>
im a brightwing and murky main. AMA
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>>171438269
They're practice so you'll know how to fucking play the game.
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>>171438269
neither is qm
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>>171440295
You see this hero, yeees? Then KILL THEM
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>>171440013
>guy does some dumb shit and dies for it
>eh whatever everybody makes mistakes
>does it again, costing us an objective
>yo stop using your tumble to facecheck bushes
>LMAO you think I don't know pce im just trollin enjoy the loss idiot

I've resigned myself to just not disagreeing with people. Should've figured this out years ago.

>>171440000
>tfw no spider hero
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>>171440013
>>171440610
Love how fucking fragile the human ego is, when they revert to fucking toddlers just to mentally escape the fact they're doing everything wrong.
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>>171440610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEf156Aih0Q
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And so the bum golams fall

dust de_dust, as they say
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Welcome back
HEEEEEROW
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_FQU4KzN7A

>ravenlord
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>>171442192
DABBLE KILL
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God damn HoTS has the best Hero design.

Cho'gall is fucking awesome.
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>>171442648
guaranteed replies
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>>171442257
I'm confused, what does this have to do with the Ravenlord?
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>>171442784
sounds like him
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>>171442257
Sounds more like gravekeeper than ravenlord.
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Blizzard has given you the opportunity to remove ONE map and ONE hero in an attempt to make the game better.
What do you do /hotsg/?
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>>171442359
TRIBBLE KILL!
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>>171443298
remove lucio and garden of terror

prove me wrong
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>>171442648
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>>171443396
Hmpf

devious
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>>171443298
Remove Lucio and garden of terror
>>171443534
I started this post thinking I would disagree with the map choice but I really can't
stop pushing with the goddamn terror you idiots
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Fuck counterstrike is so useless.
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>>171443298
Haunted Memes
Lt. Morales
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>>171443298
>Haunted Mines
>Garden of Terror
>Snowball's Bay
I can't decide.

>Lucio
>Tracer
Hoping the next Overwatch Hero will inevitably get will be a bit less...obnoxious?
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>>171443298
Medivh and Towers of Doom. Easy.
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>>171443298

Li Ming and Tomb of the Snowball Queen.
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>>171443298
Varian and Towers of Doom.
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>>171443901
Tracer's problem is that she's worthless, not obnoxious.

Maybe if she wasn't a melee assassin, she wouldn't be so bad.
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>>171443901
>Hoping the next Overwatch Hero will inevitably get will be a bit less...obnoxious?

I have it on good authority that the next Overwatch hero will be Mei
Trust me, my dad works at Blizzard.
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>>171444130
Haha! Funny I see this. I just started a game as Varian on Towers of Doom.
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Where do I get the first diablo game?
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>>171445334
thepiratebay
kat
A private alternative
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>Can only change hotkeys and screen resolution settings in game
WHAT THE FUC
THIS
IS
NECESSARY

LOOK CAN'T FIT THIS GOD FORSAKEN PIECE OF SHIT IN THE ELECTRICAL OUTLET
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>>171445765
Graphics settings? Will cause the game to restart and commence a 3 minute reconnect cycle
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>>171445765
There's a sandbox mode for a reason. Use it.
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I wish the pre-game banter between characters in this was on the same level as that of Overwatch.
For a game that is basically all about fan service the character interactions are kinda disappointing desu
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>>171446151
There are a few that are good, like Anub hitting on Zagara, but yeah, most of them are pretty generic.
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>>171446151
>raynor/morales
>raynor's pretty much "fancy seeing you here"
>morales' "EVERY TEAM NEEDS A HEALER"
autism, sadly
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>>171446151
Alarak ditches everyone he talks to in the game.
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>>171419774
It aggressively matches 5man premades vs harder enemy teams to make up for the fact that the premade at the very least gets to pick a competent teamcomp.
I qued up as 5 with vg, had like 3 golds me as a diamond and a plat and the enemy team was full plat/diamond
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>>171446151
There are a lot of good ones. Mainly with Murky.

But I never get to hear them.
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>>171446414
Best one is probably Tracer hitting on Johanna.
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>>171447513
Bullshit.
Does this really happen?
What does she say?
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>>171443298
Skull Mines and Valeera
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>>171446151
Theres TONS of interactions, click your character a bunch sometime.
Also you can /taunt and /dance ingame
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>>171447609
>he wants to remove Best Elf

Terrible post Anon.
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>>171447770
I just dont like the meme of a stealth hero who can do 2500 damage in under 3 seconds while stunning you
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>>171448008
>level 4 teamfight
>Get instagibbed
>What the hell killed me?
>Surprise bitch, Ambush does 600 damage already!
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>>171448235
>implying she has that burst at lv 4
Just walk away from her man.
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>>171448287
She didnt use her E at all and that was 3 not 4
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>>171448287
The fuck are you doing? You can hit all the towers, the gate, and the fort with one nuke
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>>171448804
Doesn't the center of the nuke deal more damage?
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>>171448804
The towers were almost dead, one had no ammo, and center of nuke does more damage.

I'm new and I know this.
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>>171448907
>Doesn't the center of the nuke deal more damage?
It deals 2x as much but destroying the wall is much more important you glassblowing tomato cheeser
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>>171449045
You think I give a heck, you poopyhead?
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>>171449156
I will take your left hand and stick it so far into your right hand you couldn't pay yourself in the back without upsetting a few chromosomes
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>check the tier list in the OP
>Diablo is at the very top

What am I missing here?
He feels pretty average to me.
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I just got 4,000 Gold which at the moment is a relatively big amount for me. Should I:

- Buy Johanna
- Save up for Chromie

Well /hotsg/?
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>>171449992
Johanna if you want to win. Chromie if you're into looking at Gnome porn and preying on QM teams with no cleanse.
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>>171449992
Chromie if you like having fun, Johanna if you need a solid tank.
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>>171449992
If you go into ranked, Jo is currently demolishing AA comps in lower leagues.
If you want a situational siege DPS though, then save for Chromie.
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>>171450116
>Gnome porn

Anon pls, Chromie is quite clearly a Dragon.

>>171450194
Chromie really is pretty fun.
I've only had a chance to use her in brawls but once she gets certain talents she becomes a lot of fun.
Her "Awww... you've undone my wounds!" line drives me up the fucking wall though.

>>171450735
I guess I'll save for a while.
If I get bored of Arthas I might just go ahead and get Johanna.
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>>171449992
You've made this post before.
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>>171449992
Same answer as before.

Get Johanna.
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L5 Bringing the NA throw strats
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>>171450735
You take Johanna for ETC and Blackheart's Bay
She tanks fairly well, not so much after losing lots of health
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Is this game like Overwatch in the sense that your Rank is sort of already defined by your Quickplay matches before you even get into competitive?
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>>171452327
Who you play against (and with) is based on that, and your rank is based on how you perform vs who you play against (and with).
Though you can get high MMR by winning lots against shitters, and end up losing to higher mmr players
For some reason this is grounds to complain
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EU > Korea confirmed

What the hell is going on?
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>>171452724
they are memeing
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>>171452830
but why?
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Does Valla have some really shit Heroics or am I using them wrong?
Beyblade gets me killed more often than not and the other one feels pretty weak.
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>>171453180
Valla is strong enough on her own that her heroics aren't too great

Rain of vengeance is good if you have people diving you or if an interrupt is necessary (against ETC Mosh Pit)

Strafe is good if your team really needs more AOE damage. It's a single target DPS loss but much better against multiple targets
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>>171453180
You must use them on the right moment
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>>171453391
Yeah, to be fair her normal attack is some crazy shit.
Is it true that it was significantly higher when the game first launched? That must have been fun.
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>>171453180
Beyblade, like Bladestorm, is a shit ult that makes you a slow, kite-able target and does less DPS than AA'ing anyway. It's spell damage so sometimes you want it against people with high physical armour but personally, I think that's just a bad plan. When you're in close enough range to hit multiple people with Strafe, you're also in range to get fucked by the same people.

The AoE stun is what gets you winning teamfights. Valla is like a worse Jimmy where she is really good at AA'ing people but can't do shit when people come at her. She can't go off solo like Jimmy but she is great when she is attached to her teammates' deathball which is why her W build is actually the best for her even if you want to go full arrow or AA 90% of the time. Just keep splashing enemies with W nades and drop the cc strips whenever you need to stop someone.

She's still a strong pick and can hold her own but don't expect miracles from her in ranked when the meta is geared towards high burst and double warriors.
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Placements so far 2/6 guess im going to silver baby!
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>>171453732
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>>171453476
She got completely reworked in September. She is still listed as easy but is pretty difficult to play well. A good Valla will always keep those Hatred stacks up and play safely to deal consistent DPS.

Valla with complete AA build does more damage now that she ever did before, but it takes a little while to ramp up. Old Valla was kind of crazy, had 5 different talents at every tier and some had pretty good synergy (frost shot and executioner come to mind)
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I'm not even gonna bother to watch Dorm this year

Hope the facebook money was worth it, Blizz
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>>171452918
why not? look how they are winning now
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The EU teams were way better at the Western Clash than these Korean teams are playing right now
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>>171454542
They are shit until they beat them in the blizzcon.
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>>171454180
I'm tempted to get Lunar Jaina but they fucked up the alt color palettes.
Jaina should NOT be brown, it just doesn't work.
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>>171455526
I think one of them is a Symmetra reference.

>tfw the amount of items that go on sale at a time
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>>171455595
>Symmetra reference.

That just makes it worse.
Symmetra became full cancer when they actually made her strong.

I hope she doesn't get added to this game too.
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>>171437912
He's getting shredded by Zul'jin as soon as he tries to get in the fight. He's also a juicy CC target for the Xul and Uther. It's probably your fault for doing less healing than a fucking Uther as Lucio. How does that even happen on even talents? Your team did a lot more damage than theirs did, your Arthas and Valla had much better damage done than their Zarya and Xul. Your poor healing, probably as a result of poor talent choices since Lucio is braindead easy to play, is literally the reason you lost.
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>Korean Meta
>Whoever picks Tyrael wins
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>>171455932
But I thought Tyrael sucked?
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So both suck, but Cannon over Rift build with Probius right?
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>>171455595
>>171455758
Pretty sure Lunar Jaina skin is older than Overwatch.
>>
we just had a game with two Gul Dans on the brawl.
We just spammed corruption and pounded their boypussies.
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>playing Kael in quickmeme against team with no heals
>pick up pyroblast
>enemy li-ming still gets glass cannon

nut
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>game full of prime waifu material
>half of them are not even fun to play

Why?
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>>171455758
>>171456285
http://imgur.com/a/lXmt6

Comparison, if of interest.

>>171456812
>Kael'thas casts Pyro on Ming
>she presses E
>nothing happens

Unless they changed the mechanic.
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>>171454621
Fnatic already beat MVP Black at last blizzcon.
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>>171456926
Might as well link the Reddit post you got it from: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/43vuk8/jainas_third_lunar_skin_tint_is_symmetra_themed/

Okay I can see it being a Symmetra reference even if it came out before Memewatch came out.
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>>171457052
I imagine concept art for Overwatch has existed for a long time now. It could still be a coincidence, I guess, the hair is not black.
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>>171457176
I think the biggest thing is the double helix logo that's on the blue tint on the lunar skin that's not on the other two. Colour scheme doesn't say much by itself but little details like that do.
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>>171456926
I think there's a few more Overwatch references in shit that came out even before the game was released.
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>>171457363
Yeah tychus's base skin recolors have widow and tracer on his shoulder
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>>171457401
I think there's a firefighter Mei on Misha with that one Starcraft skin.
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>>171456926
You can't disjoint or dodge it I thought.

She tried a couple times to no avail.
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Tfw you hardcarry as Gul'Dan with triple anyone else in the games siege and hero damage
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Do brawls have mmr?
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>>171457434
>firefighter Mei

Probably the worst thing to ever come out of a Blizzard game tbqh
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>>171458101
>tfw a morales staples herself too you for FREE healing for FREE mana
>tfw I also had a Malfurion
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>>171458542
I think you mispelled "Widowmaker", "Reaper" or "Overwatch as a whole"
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playing Alarak in this current QM climate with no healer and everyone playing burst heroes and stealth hurts.
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>>171458753
>implying Reaper is not a great design with great alternate skins

DIE
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who be da next hero mon?
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tfw played 20 brawls and only lost 4
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>>171459373
wow dude youre so kewl
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>>171459373
you are the brawl master
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>2017
>HotS already had 3 Blizzcons in it's lifetime
>Still no Mengsk in game
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>>171460110
What would he even do? Board a battle cruiser and abandon his team with a fight starts?
>>
>get a card at the end of the match
>it's for escaping death during team fights
>as Arthas

Th-thanks...
>>
oh no ive been reported whatever will i do
Apparently I was afking because i was staying at max range instead of mashing my face into them
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>>171460215
There was a leak (or some kind of datamining) a long time ago that gave us some ability names for Mengsk
I only remember that one of his ultimates used the Xel'Naga artifact (after all it almost killed Kerrigan at the end of Heart of the Swarm)
I believe most his abilities use some technological support like the Psi emitter or terran units summonings
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>>171460215
I always imagined him to be something like Zagara, but with less utility and siege and more pure dmg power. He'd set up his dominion on the lane/objective with Psi-Towers and Xel'naga artifact and just point finger on who his elite guards have to kill a'la Zag's hydralisk. Though the highly defensive "this is my land" role was pretty much taken by Probe now, even if he's shitty.
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>>171460215
>ywn call down command centers on top of conquered enemy forts and construct forward bases
>ywn direct speical operatives to contest an objective
>ywn watch as your armies raise the flag of the Domion atop the corpses of your enemies
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What are Muradin's best Thunder Clap related talents?
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>brawl puts pressure on my 750 ti
YAMETE!
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Fuck off clipse
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>>171461226
You shouldn't be able to send whispers to people not on your friends list if you only accept whispers from friends.
>>
I played 30-40 games of brawl and its the most fun i had in all of hots
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>>171460410
Mengsk, Tosh, Fenix, and Stukov are definitely happening. Also Valerian. 100%. Screenshot this post.
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>>171460215
>>171460726
I don't care what his kit or his role is; I just need him to
-never hold a weapon in his hands
-have no basic attacks other than if the animation of his AA is a Ghost SpecOp partially decloaking next to him to snipe someone
-his B animation being him lighting a cigar, not giving a fuck

And the latter is never gonna happen, so what's the point.
>>
Next hero is Mcree
Q: Tactical Roll: Roll in target direction, Reloading his revolver in the process
W: Flashbang: Circular skillshot stun ala Tychus grenade, Stuns for .75 seconds and then blinds for 1.25
E: Fan the Hammer: Increase attackspeed by 500% for one second
R1: Deadeye: Charges up over time, From 1% of max HP to 100% Requires LOS but can target any number of enemies. Slows you down to 40% while charging
R1-20: Up to 150%, Charges faster, and move at 80% of normal speed while charging.
R2: Shootout: Passive: Gain a second guns worth of bullets. Active: Reload 300% faster for 10 seconds
R2-20: Also gain 200% attack speed for 10 seconds

Trait: Six shots or Five: Must reload after taking 6 Shots, Takes 1.5 seconds after the last bullet is fired or 3 seconds out of combat. Has one more range than usual.
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>>171461810
I honestly think that Mengsk should be a core replacement hero.

No joke, he should demolish the team's normal core and replace it with his compound that Kerrigan trashed in Heart of the Swarm.

That, and all of his dialogue is transfered to the team either through loudspeakers installed near their forts/keeps, or directly via SC2 comms, the ones with the face visible.

I think if he replaced all of the keeps and forts with Dominion alternatives, that would also be really cool. It'd be a flavorful as fuck for the enemy team having to peel back all of his forces just to get a shot at Mengsk, it's what happened in Heart of the Swarm.
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>>171462251
Since there can only be one core-replacement hero in the game, it OUGHT to be the Overmind
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>>171462982
Who says that there can only be one? Do you have a source for that?

Though I do agree that Overmind deserves it more.
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>>171463224
There can only be one because I don't see how a single team can have several core-replacement heroes at the same time, and until now there never was a rule preventing a hero to enter a certain team
>>
Every fucking "core replacement hero" suggestion ends up being "Abathur but EVEN MORE PARASITIC", I hate it.
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>>171463417
They all just combine into one mega core replacement.
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>>171463417
Well those rules are in -now-, I don't see why it couldn't be a particular sect of specialists of Core Replacements. They would just have to define on matchmaking that two Core Replacements wouldn't be able to be on the same team; Like, for argument's sake, the same team couldn't have Overmind and Mengsk.
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POST MEME TIER AWARDS
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>>171464090
that's the only one if have saved.
>>
Ragnaros is really fucking fun even after his nerfs
BY FIRE BE PURGED!
>>
>>171458253
Yes.

But unless you autistically grind wins on Brawl, your brawl MMR will be low. ALSO, since nobody else autistically grinds Brawl MMR, having a higher Brawl MMR will only make your queue times longer because nobody else is in that range.
>>
tfw your mmr in qm is so fucked that for some reason it thinks you can carry 4 absolute retards against 2 different premades with a good comp
tfw six games in a row you get the same thing
>>
>>171465117
legit though, I lost 6 games in a row so I took a break, came back and tried to play again and my teams are even WORSE than they were then.
Is it just evening out my MMR or something? Cause its definitely not fun
>>
>tassadar takes force wall
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>>171466575
>tassadar
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>>171467493
>tassad
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>>171467581
>tass
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>>171467621
>ta
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>no one targets morales
EVERYONE IS SO TRASH AT THIS GAME
JESUS FUCK
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>>171467654
>
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>>171467810
>>
>zarya running it down mid
yeah no more hots for me today
>>
>>171447271
I'm well aware, but all the redditors in the thread love to complain about how hard and unfair it is to play against a 5 stack in QM.
>>
>>171431909
>>171432057
i kinda believe him, he sounds like the soloq version of zuna.
bottom of the barrel challenger league player who looks like a god in hots because its less popular

>>171441512
n-no youre 12 and a virgin dude im just trying to have fun ur sad you have mental problems im afking to go to my full time job good luck stupid kid why so angery wtf ur reported

>>171445765
>hotkeys
i know for a fact that isn't true because of my autistic left handed setup

>>171464514
ragnaros is like the epitome of what a bruiser would be in this game even though he is an assassin i guess. i love that hero
>>
New hero tease when? I wasnt hyped at all for Probius, blizzard pls I need my new hero hype fix
>>
wtf where's the next hero reveal blizzard
>>
>>171470130
tirion or riot
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>>171462123

Weird. I was just thinking him over last night and what his second heroic would be.
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>>171470130
In two weeks
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>tfw im that guy playing Medivh on your ranked games

well what now? maybe do you want to tell me something here?
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>>171469783
>>171470130
Probius was a let down.
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>>171470735
Thanks for shielding me all those times.
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>>171470735
thanks for properly tard wrangling our butcher player, we couldn't have won without you
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>>171461692
>Valerian
https://clips.twitch tv/FurryLaconicClipsmomVoteYea
>>
What are the benefits of Murky taking fake eggs instead of Bribe?
>>
>>171422154

>! hotslogs.com
>@@||d3pkae9owd2lcf.cloudfront.net$script,domain=www.hotslogs.com
>hotslogs.com##script:contains(location.replace)
>hotslogs.com###MainContent_advertisementBannerMonkeyBrokerTopReplacement
>www.hotslogs.com###advertisementBannerMonkeyBrokerTop
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>>171422154
>>171471761
oh yeah toss this into ublock's "my filters" and hit apply
it should no longer redirect you to the adblock site
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>Uther and Lunara
lmao
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Would someone please direct me to where they're getting this news about Uther rework?

I want my piano uther to be viable again, god damn it, stop teasing me!
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>>171472795
dumb western pig
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>>171473023
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/842460808676163585
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>>171474004
Duuuuuuuuuuude.. I read down the list and they said they were going to rebalance Alarak too. And I remember a few days ago there was a large discussion in the thread about rebalancing him.

Could... could blizzard be listening on /hotsg/? I know leakanon posts here, but maybe the attention is both ways.
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>>171472795
>Uther won
dumb western sow
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>>171474221
lunara lost
slant eyes lose again
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>>171474204
Uhm no? You /hotsg/ cunts just parrot what we on reddit say. It's our feedback they're paying attention to, not your babbling.
So back off?!
>>
>twink leave
what did he mean by this?
>>
>>171442648
Should have said "Champ design"
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>>171471761
it doesn't work for me anymore
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>>171474317
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>>171471538
>say that again
>VUHLAREIAN
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>rich was the problem
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weebs btfo
>>
Why the fuck are there no new skins
>>
>Wtb Arthas
What are the chances of them nerfing him.
>>
>sign was the problem
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>mvp plaque
gg
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>>171476258
He's cheap you cunt, just go for it.
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Ttsst is my warriorfu
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Are you people watching some tournament again?
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>>171476364
Ok then I'ma need you to get me the Frost Wyrm skin.
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>>171476681
>reddit bronzies not even aware of eastern clash
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>>171476681
it just ended
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>>171476746
Sorry bruv, I don't condone shit taste.
Get Crown Prince Arthas or get out, scrub.
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>tfw no Stukov hero
My victory will never be assured
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who's the most underwhelming hero to play?
zarya?
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>>171477269
>starcraft heroes
>ever
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>>171477383
Probius
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>>171459370
warcraft assassin
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>>171477534
Starcraft heroes > Diablo heroes > Warcraft heroes > Probius
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>>171470130
That reminds me
Diablo is still a blizzard franchise
We might get someone good this time

>auriel was 7 months ago
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>>171477383
Probius, Uther, Nova, Morales.
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>>171476834
>reddit silver thinks anyone outside of reddit cares about hots esports
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>>171478004
>diablo heroes
>ever
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OH GOD PANIC
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Level 6 Li-Ming players have a 40.8% win rate. Level 6 Probius players have a 43.0% win rate. Can we please stop calling Probius garbage until we have some real stats?
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>>171478131
Ching Chong and Ping Pong gonna wreck your ass
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>>171478173
Probius actually has a pretty solid win rate for a character with a very unique playstyle. We just don't have any stats from experienced Probius players because unlike most other heroes, the average hero level for Probius HL games is 6, which takes only a few games to reach. Compared to what seems to be the average of 9 on other heroes, which takes exponentially more games.
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>>171477383
Morales has literally no fun mechanic. I struggle to even get her to 5 because she is so boring and basic.
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>>171478384
Grenading is fun. Killing people who assume you can't do any damage is also fun.
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>>171477269
And he was even teased with those fucking eggs! And when people asked after Lucio if there were some teases about new hero, the guy from Blizz's beaner division said "...maaaybeee ;->"

The Alexander will never fly again...
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>you can spread chogall outside of vs AI games
Why you do this Blizzard
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>>171478384
What >>171478591 said.

Also, although very basic, preventing burst with Safeguard and just microing the right amount of healing for each teammate can be very satisfying.
My friend really likes playing her for exactly that reason. It's not just "press Q and wait for CD" like every other support.
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>>171478054
Piano uther is pretty fun thou
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>>171479225
I remember when I first started, I only had Lili as a support and wanted to get a new one. Someone more exciting. I asked if Rehgar or Uther was more fun and someone said, well, Uther has more buttons.

I was so over my head trying to Piano.
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Give me one reason why picking a hero before getting into a match is a good idea.

Also when are they going to implement the "only one stealth hero per team" thing?
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>>171478182
They werent terribly good but my team was worse so it evened out to us losing
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Help i cant stop playing brawl because of how much im hating qm right now
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>>171478384
I dont know I always thought sniping with grenade was kinda fun
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>>171457036
Yes one game and then they lost the serie.
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>>171480060
play unranked? or heck even ranked
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>>171477383
azmo - too methodical
hammer - movespeed+no cooperation=fuck this shit
morales - too much healer, not enough support
hammer wins based on being the worst out of so many ranged assassins and specs

>>171478384
grenade can be detonated so that's something to go with medivac. doesn't mean i'd ever play her outside of brawl for any reason besides getting free win.
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>>171477241
That's not the ching chong Mystic Kingdoms Arthas.
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>>171477383
etc and muradin
both boring as fuck

zarya's up there too
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>>171481043
>hammer is bad
top silver

>>171481343
>mura is boring
top bronze
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>>171479751
already implanted, but you still can be placed with or against some mates that picked several stealth heroes
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>>171481534
Yeah I got a game against a Zeratul and a Valeera last night. What's the criteria on this thing?
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>>171481485
played as a solo tank yes, he's a borefest
as a bruiser he's meh once every 40 seconds
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>>171481612
That's pretty simple, the match making system will not put together two stealth heroes together
However, if some mates enter the queue as two stealth heroes together, the match making system will do nothing against it, so some game will have several stealth heroes in a team
Same goes for tanks, healers, Abathur + Cho'gall, etc
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>>171446151
yeah some of the interactions are just lazy and they re-use voice lines. im not sure if they dont have the money or the voice actors has other things to do right now?
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>>171478131
n-nani
American server?
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>>171481343
>muradin
>boring
You've been playing the wrong build
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>>171483080
yes
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HAHAHAHAHA

HEY

WHO STOLE ME BOTTLE?
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>>171483650
my webweavers shall weave a web of death upon your foes KRRAYYYYY
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>>171483998
THE ANGEL WILL NOT EXPECT THIS *gets expected by the angel*
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>>171484204
>THEIR PUNISHER LIES BROKEN AT OUR FEET
>NOW WE PUNISH T H E M !
><dark, twisted laugher>

Beleth is so fucking corny sometimes.
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>>171483513
>not even the best bruiser build
at least you managed to pick good talents on some tiers
>>
GATHER MY SEED IF YOU WISH TO LIVE
>>
Yer ded, matey.

WELCOME TO THE CREW
>>
>pirate map
>get turn in when they have one keep left
>tell my team to rush the core
>I'm the only one who actually does
>get killed obviously
>core at 35%
When will people learn how to play?
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>all the eastern clash games are mpv black vs l5

really makes me think
>>
Am I just using shit builds or is Illidan absolute trash right now?
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>ask my team to help with something
>they don't
>do it anyways and die without achieving my goals
noob team
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>>171485956
>winning all game
>enemy only has half a keep left
>we're 20, they're 18-19
>Artanis decides to "scout" enemy mercs with Q
>Brightwang polymorphs him on it
>dies
>lose because enemy team 20 and it's now a 4v5 for 60 seconds
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>someone pings core
>I move to push it
>no one else comes
>ping retreat and back out
>they die
>"noob team"
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>>171485882
well what builds are you using famalam
>>
SoHow did everyones placements go? Where did you guys end up?
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The scariest team in Silver City - 5 Ragnaros's
You have until level 10 to win
and they have 5 molten cores
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>tfw Morales plays
>>
how the hell do people get "clutch healer" with probius?
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>>171487091
Now with slightly better bitrate.
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>>171486948
>s's
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>>171485882
He just takes some skill, a lot of it.
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>>171487108
Aoe shields from pylons (from talents at lvl 13).
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>>171487447
I got it once without taking shield battery.
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>>171487304
Damn I didn't know webms could be made out of bronze
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>>171487845
Not even Bronze. QM.
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>>171487336
I don't know, anon. He seemed better back in beta.
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>>171487304
what converter do you use?
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>>171485882
Yeah he is absolute trash with next to zero build variety
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>>171488014
webm for bronzies.
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>>171488409
xddd
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>>171487304
That's like putting yourself in a VP for the enemy team.
Imagine if this wasn't QM
>>
BY YOUR WILL

IT IS DESTINED
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>>171488774
Check our team comp. We were destined to lose in the long run due to low damage. We had to do something.
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>>171488774
VP? nah man thats askin for PYROBLAST
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>>171488931
Yeah ik
except your damage really isn't too low
mfw I have mcintyre and some other faggot draft Rehgar and bw on Braxis but never team fight correctly because one of them is always jerking off
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What's the best bruiser build for Muradin?
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>>171489276
Picking a better hero
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>>171489245
It was too low though. We only won through the incompetence of the other team and the fact that ETC landed the perfect Mosh Pit.
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Uther? more like Cuckther
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>>171489372
>We only won through the incompetence of the other team
This is how every game goes, the only argument otherwise is if someone is disconnected from the game or there's an actual glitch...
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>>171487816
maybe because you healed yourself with shield capacitor at level 4?
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>kill kael'thas as muradin
>"i've met blood elves tougher than you!"
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>>171489561
Why is arcane orb li ming so nutty? She just wrecks whole teams on small maps.
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>>171489626
what does that have to do with anything?
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>>171489430
Abathur?

More like Navuh fussavenint ABACUS
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>>171489739
What? I can't just say something unrelated to the discussion at hand? Are you getting triggered by the quote? Piss off, mate.
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>>171489830
are you an autist?
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>>171489830
*holds up spork*
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Why would you ever not take skullcracker on Muradin? Its so good
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>>171491695
The every three hits stuns thing? It used to be bad, but I always thought it sounded badass.

I'm glad it is getting some props.
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>>171492251
I want to go into a custom game with a muradin, medic, Rehgar, and 2 other attack speed buff heroes and see how fast muradin can stun someone with aa's
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think the OP will ever have the link to youtube fixed? Its still arthas like 5 threads later
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>>171491695
Because Iron-forged momentum is better in 90% of games.

Skullcracker is good and has it place but it's the worse talent most of the time.
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>mfw someone thinks their TL rank means anything near me
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>>171493821
>doesn't reduce the cd on toss
>better than the 25% attack speed and 3rd hit stun 90% of the time
no
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>>171494367
Yes.
You get more slows, more healing statics and more qs.

You only take Skullcracker if you can go full bruiser and there's enough backline/ squishy frontline for you to annoy with ministuns and fights are gonna last so long you run out of mana.
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>>171494271
Nidalee in Hots WHEN!?
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>>171494914
Hopefully fucking never.
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>>171494367
Iron-forged isn't bad, but yeah you take skullcracker most of the time it's just generally better in diamond/master anyway.
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>>171494914
Never, hopefully.

I wouldn't mind if lanes were a bit more established, though. Dedicated roamer/jungler might also be fun.
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>>171494852
>You only take Skullcracker if you can go full bruiser
you obviously don't play muradin if you think that is the only time you take it
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I must leave.

And I blame this failure upon you.
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>>171494914
We need Lux
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>>171495373
Only play him at 3.4k mmr where he's my favourite full tank and overall my 4. most played hero.
>>
When should you start hero league?
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>>171494914
Invoker in Hots WHEN!?
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>>171495718
As soon as you can. It's the superior mode in every regard except when you're a sub d3 shitter
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>>171495659
yep i'm sure
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Aren't the new matchmaking rules the best?

Look, they didn't have a bruiser and we didn't have a support, since Tyrande isn't "really" a support and Zarya isn't "really" a tank. That makes it fair, right?

By the way, I fed a fuckton. I blow up around every single one of the enemy team's characters. Valla plays Siege Valla during teamfights.
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>>171495847
Anything below master is shit
which means I'm shit until I decide to play past my promos
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body blocking is so retarded in this game
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>>171495338
>Dedicated roamer/jungler might also be fun.
You can get away with drafting a dedicated jungler on BHB.
It's why it's one of the only maps you can unironically pick Illidan without building around him.

Sonya and Samuro do his job better though.
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>>171495847
oh okay then Anon.
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>>171496372
Yeah, which is why I enjoy multiple maps, even if Blackheart's isn't really my thing.

Wonder if they'll eventually make a map with all the good stuff from prior maps. Or what the next map will even be.
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>Leoric's banter & joke quotes
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>>171497114
>lesser evil indeed
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>>171497380
>"Are you going to fight this time? Or just talk about how you cannot be beaten?"
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>>171497114
>Now you are as dead as the rest of your people, savage
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>>171497114
He makes me feel nice with his unit responses to be honest. I bet if he thought you were loyal he'd be a total bro.
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Eeeeeeehhh acceptable.
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>>171496372
I'm a bit upset they canonized Samuro's camp taking in his new description.

I wish he had a better role.
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>>171480597
???
Fnatic literally won the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGaVfe66W-g
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>>171498401
Based Khaldor. Gets me everytime.
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>Getting burnt out playing HotS
>No other games to play
ree
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>>171476746
>>171477241

Crown Prince Arthas WOULD be GOAT if it had a dark armor/white hair variant but it doesn't.
Why the FUCK doesn't it have one?
With Frost Wyrm Arthas you get a human-looking Arthas too so it's cool.
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>>171499227
All that skin needs is a different weapon, but they can't give him one because of Uther
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>>171499078
Play Overwatch
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Why does no one use this mount?
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>>171499946
Is probably the worst one.
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>>171499946
Because I don't have it

>tfw missed out on the cloud mount

Also that snake like dragon thing I really fucking want.
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>>171499946
>I bothered with team league
>I couldn't get master

Perhaps not.
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>>171499946
Its shape and posture are stupid and its colors are even worse and make no sense.
>>
Jaina is fun and cute.

Burst mages aren't really popular any more and people usually pick Ming if they end up feeling like a Burst Mage, but we're past "I'm here to feed!" right?
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>>171499946
I find it a bit too small
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>>171500639
Jaina is as strong as Ming now.
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>>171500639
>but we're past "I'm here to feed!" right?
No, jaina is the easiest mage to kill, one of the easiest heroes to kill in the game. She feeds her ass off most of the time, even if she is ever picked in pro games. She is only useful for comboing RoF
>>
>hi i play melee assassin
>last pick
>hovers illidan

how do these guys even climb in rank
>>
>>171500639
W-what is Jaina doing to Sylvanas here?
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>>171501271
They don't, that's why they are in silver
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>>171500639
>tfw you get to FP Sylvanas on Tomb
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>>171499946
I use blue for Crown Prince Arthas and blue for Winter Waifu Jaina.

Looks nice desu.
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>>171501549
Red one works pretty well with master skin Varian, too.
Thematic AND color fitting.
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Alex when???
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>>171501213
Well, that makes me feel better about the three Jaina games I had today where my death count was absurd. But hey, I had some crazy rings.

>>171501428
Just normal girl stuff.
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>>171501708
Alex, Ysera, Onyxia and the blue slut when
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>>171501213
>picked in tons of pro games, even without anything to combo her rof with
>koreans literally take water elemental
hurr rof, useless hero
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>>171501910
Jaina is not the easiest mage to kill.

All your enemies should be slowed by 25/30% for 4/6 seconds.
You have a 20 second Stasis.
You can gain ridiculous shields. You have a block talent. You can root.
If they can kill you, you were in the front out of position, or they dived and your team didn't do jack.
In both cases, it's your fault for being shit/not adjusting to your team.


You aren't a good Jaina if you die often, period.
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>>171502185
Recommend me a good Jaina build, friend.
Not the Anon you are quoting, I just want to learn how to play her.
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>>171502185
Jaina generally will have the most deaths because her abilities are very short ranged outside of FB. Jaina has no escapes and has to get very close to do damage, she also has very long CDs on her basic abilities. Jaina is by far the easiest mage to kill because of her short range on abilities and no defensives until 20.

>You have a 20 second Stasis.
At 20, that is when she gets her first real defensive.
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>>171501549
>Winter Waifu Jaina.

Isn't every one of her skins a Winter Waifu skin?
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>>171502185

jaina literally always dies a lot in competitive games because of how easy she is to kill the only other character easier to kill than her would be tyrande without sprint the point of jaina is to just get your combo off and throw all your abilities out and hope you kill someone before you die
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>>171502431
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/jaina#gTcx

Basic build.
1 Every talent is viable. 4 you can go Frost Armor, 16 you can go Numbing Blast
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>>171501271
of course the fucker stats to intentionally feed
what the fuck is going on with my matchmaking, its the second time today
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>>171501213
>jaina is worse at slowing now than arthas
rip
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>>171502816
Thanks m8
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>>171502431
Adapt.
There's no one good build for her.

Lingering Chill/Winter's Reach depending on how pokey you need to be. Deep Chill is super minor and thus not worth it, Conjurer's is just a pain in the arse for no proper payoff.

Frost Shard is solid in almost every situation.
Arcane Intellect is a shit talent for people not knowing how to conserve mana. Perfect for the typical Jaina player, really.
Frost Armor is ok, IF they have divers that will focus you. It works ok for waveclear as it'll frost minions attacking you, too. It would be GOOD if it gave you 50 armor for 1-1.5 seconds, or 75 armor on two stacks with it's higher than average CD.

Frost Bitten is good. Extra damage never hurts.
Ice Lance is good. I prefer it for more poke. You can machine gun later on with it. Use with Lingering Chill and Icy Veins.
Ice Floes is ??? CD reduction is ok, but I think the other two talents outshine it.

Water Elemental is ok.
Ring of Frost is as good as you are.
Hitting 2-3 people spells doom for the enemy team. If you miss, you're shit.

Storm Front is for poke. It's ok, but outshined.
Ice Barrier is good for mercs and against divers. Only pick if you have Frost Bitten.
Ice Veins is GOAT. Solves the high CD problem and allows rapid fire Frostbolts.

Snowstorm is for scrubs.
Northern Exposure is good for teamplay, but requires odd sequencing of your abilities.
Numbing Blast is awesome in pretty much every situation.

Cold Snap is shit.
Winter Mute is great. But it needs Water Elemental, and that's suboptimal.
Improved Ice Block is GOOD holy shit. Pick that, you'll need it.
Arcane Power is winmore as fuck. Maybe if you need the ability power/mana then and there to end the game.

>>171502595
Christmas Redhead skin, you silly.
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>tfw no Captain Diomedes guest character

What a shame. I have a feeling he'd fit in so well with the rest of the cast. If only he was a Blizzard character...

For the record, I'm not a militant 40kfag. I just liked Dawn of War 2
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>>171503579
Thanks man, that's a lot of useful info right there, I appreciate you taking the time to explain it like that.
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>>171503579
>Water Elemental is ok.
It's probably the worst ult in the game before the 20 upgrade, but then you give up iceblock which is pretty necessary for Jaina
>>
> or they dived and your team didn't do jack.

Yes? Duh? Also Stasis is at twenty.
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>>171503739
It's cool. I'm no Jaina master, but she's pretty fun. A back to the basics mage character, you don't have any complicated mechanics you need to pay attention to. Only positioning.
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>>171503819
Water Elemental is good you bronzo, good for spreading slows.
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>>171503872
>playing The Butcher with friends in Quick Match
>queue into another group doing the same
>their best player is on the Li-Ming
>divebomb her shit and her team is too scared to stop me
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>>171503579
>Arcane Intellect is shit
Wonder why Mene picks it then..
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>>171504140
It dies too fast and does no damage, it's never right to take it over ring. The only reason you use to pick it way back in the day was because of the initial damage and splash for a combo. You will only pick water elemental in bronze
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>>171504261
That's why MVP Black took it today against L5.
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>>171504261
>It dies too fast
this is your fault
>>
>>171502185
>>171503872
>>171503579
Anyway, appreciate the advice. I kept picking the block talent because yeah, kept getting shredded. The armor is great, but with certain burst, you can't get enough in time. I know I'm a bad Jaina, but I play lots of assassins and she seems to die pretty easily in comparison to most.

Plus it is QM. I'm gonna die a lot because we never have a proper frontline (5 assassins vs. 5 assassins).
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>>171504527
You don't take frost armor for the shitty block, you take it so every time you get AA'd they get slowed
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>>171504527
Her playstyler is closer to Kerrigan or Alarak than other ranged assassins I guess.

You poke or wait certain enemy spells out before you go in. Alternatively you flank and burst from the side. She's certainly one of the hardest assassins.
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>>171504250
I'm a scrub and give scrub advise.
I regularly take it because it improves uptime and helps me spam a bit more.
Frost Shards takes more effort to get value out of.
Frost Armor is a bit undertuned and only good for certain situations.

It's totally ok to pick it, but I feel like a good player may get better mileage out of the other two talents instead.
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>>171504776
She's the easiest in execution, no. She's not the hardest assassin at all.
You need to know POSITIONING, a rare skill among the bronze folks, so it's only natural you mistake a basic but ultimately minor weakness as her being hard to play.
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>>171504701
>>171504776
Right, right. Thanks guys. I'll try to git gud and then maybe eventually play her in HL as opposed to spamming tanks or supports.
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>>171504423
>>171504373
>picking water elemental
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>>171505158
Positioning can be a huge reason why a character is hard. Loads of characters can walk away from anything and positioning is piss easy.

If "requires proper positioning" is not ultimately skilltesting, then no assassin is hard as none of them have any crazy timing or skillshots.
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>>171505241
>159 games is a proper sample size
Spotted the idiot.
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>>171504974
You pick it on heavy rotation maps like Dragon Shire or Tomb to get more uptime like you said. It's a good talent.

>>171505158
I'm master. To me she feels very hard.

>>171505241
Yeah, was only the now best team in the world that took Water Elemental and won with it. It's situational but good.

By your logic Ice Floes is also better than any other level 7 and Conjurer's Pursuit is the best level 1

They're situational too, there's almost no real bad talent in the game.
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>>171505469
The sample size of pick rates is actually 159 +3829 in masters. Are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>171505469
>picked 160 times in 4000 games
>sample size idiot

Okay.
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>>171505350
But Jaina can walk away from a lot of stuff too, simply because she SLOWS people the fuck down. Why is she any more easier to kill than Ming? Teleport covers no distance at all. KT can't do anything except hope he hits his whirlwind.
Nazeebo has no peel at all.
Guldan has no peel at all.
Chromie only has situational peel and that Heath talent, she's a bit harder if she has any clue.
Medivh is a bitch and the only actually hard to kill mage.
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>>171505618
That's only for popularity, not for winrate, bruv :)
Come back with a 1k+ pickrate and you have a decent sample size for wins. For all I and you know, the few people who picked it did so in terrible situations or were just shit players.
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>>171505759
KT and Chromie have their range
KT also has a stun
Chromie has a fuckton of peel: E and her ults
Guldan has his healthpool, talents and his ult
Nazeebo has range, wall, massive burst on things closeby and icebblock
Jaina has no escape but slows. No range though so she's the squishiest of all the mage imo
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>>171505241
>enabling ads
but why
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>>171505759
Maybe it is because I've been playing against Tracer in QM a lot, but slows and roots certainly help but until you get root and stasis, if they have a heavy diver, you can't just fuck off like Valla/Falstad. The teleport is usually way better and can dodge tons of point and stuns in this game.

You got me about Chromie, Nazeebo and Kael. Chromie and Naz admittedly work on such an extreme range that positioning with them is piss easy.

Gul'dan ... seems tough. Medivh isn't really a "mage".
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>>171505947
You won't get 1k picks because it's a terrible ultimate, that is the point.
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>>171505495
>Yeah, was only the now best team in the world that took Water Elemental and won with it. It's situational but good.
When did this happen? It wasn't today, I didn't see Jaina played in any of the MVP vs L5 games
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>>171503689
>Not Davian COOL
This game needs a hero to save it and this man is hero incarnate.
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>>171506052
>KT has range

>Chromie's OBVIOUS sandtrap is certain peel that can't be avoided at all, the Ults that take TIME to ramp up are proper peel
>instead of situational peel like I said

>Guldan's health and health regain count as survivability, his talents are A-okay to consider
>Jaina's shields, blocks and roots arent

>Nazeebos delayed wall counts as peel
>cites massive burst close range
>somehow Jaina's massive burst mid-close range doesn't count

Fucking bronzies. Jaina has plenty of range. It's only her E that needs you to be in their face.
But of course, /hotsg/ fucks only know to go all in always and forever, so they can't just use Frost Bolt and Blizzard as proper ranged skills, they NEED to use their E for value!!!

You shits give Jaina players a bad name.
Consider deinstalling this game.
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>>171506494
>>171503689
YOU ALL FUCKERS NEED VANCE MOTHERFUCKING STUBBS
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>>171506613
Blizzard's range around the end of cone, it's a short range ability
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>>171506613
I have no idea where you get the idea that Blizzard has any range. It can be placed just past the cone, that's it.

Anyway, we know Jaina is a good hero, you moron. But we don't main her like you do so we know that other heroes are piss easy in comparison.
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>>171506613
Silver retard you don't do dmg or burst without using your E. Just using Q during fights won't do shit and using W without E is a huge waste of time because the cd is so long.

You're supposed to burst someone down with all your spells and when you do that you have to move in. Frost Armor isn't good defense, you only pick it when they have a diver that can dive you without you going in like Zeratul or GM.

What's your rank anon, what's your MMR?
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>>171506112
>Popularity is about being good or bad
Sure, Naruto and Bleach are the best animes, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 is the best game, DaVinci is the best historical figure and Trump is the most popularestest presidential president.
Go home, opinion boy. You're a baby to big man discussions.
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>>171506858
He doesn't main Jaina, he doesn't know the range of blizzard
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>>171506926
His approval is actually pretty low right now.
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>>171507117
Low popularity doesn't get you elected. Being unpopular doesn't matter outisde of elections. He was popular when it mattered. And people liked him enough during elections to vote for him. Doesn't mean that half of America shouldn't be shot dead for being idiots.
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>>171506926
Well trump didn't win the popular vote though, so you are retarded but if 96% of high level anime neets just watched naruto, there would probably be a problem with anime. That was from just diamond/master, not the enitre game.
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>>171503689
>>171506494
>>171506824
>not Gabriel Fuckin' Angelos with the sexiest old man voice this side of Uther
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLP5q6XyUik
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>>171505241
i guess conjurer's pursuit is the best talent too
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>>171487304
you should never vac that close. Medivac should almost never be used to flank anyway because its telegraphed in chat and slow.

Vac should be used for mana runs, saving yourself, or very wide rotations to bosses or objectives.

The mosh is what won that fight.
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>>171507950
It's about pickrates at master why do so many people seem to have brain damage here?
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>>171491695
Battle momentum is nice with the healing static build. I usually only take skullcracker when interrupts are valuable, but both are good.
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>>171508135
>there's only 1 good talent on every tier
>if it isn't the most picked it's bad
This is what bronzies seriously believe
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>>171504373
Do you mean MVP Black against Estar on day 2? When the korean teams were trying to just meme on the chinese? That is really the only time Jaina was picked in the tournament
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>>171508610
No, he mean mvp vs l5 when they picked water elemental.
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>>171508339
>comparing extreme ult pickrates to situational level talents
You are just samefagging at this point to double down on your stupidity
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>>171508705
Jaina wasn't picked today, she was picked on day 2 against estar
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>>171484326
>>171484204

BRUTALIZE THEM
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>>171508610
>>171508705
Anon is right, it was game 1 Estar vs Black. I mixed it up in my mind.


>>171508783
>lightning breath is bad
>falling sword is bad
>ultralisk is bad
>reverse amp is bad
All under 15% pickrate at dia+master, they must all be horrid.
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>>171508705
That never happened, why do people just lie? You can check out the match ups here instead of trying to misinform people. Jaina was only picked once this tournament and only against the shitty chinese.

https://masterleague.net/matches/?region=&patch=&map=&hero=7
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>>171509742
>The angel could not stop me.
>None of you can.
>>
Heh-heeey, maaan.
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>>171497114
>>171497650

>kill valla
>Say hello to your sister for me. Lovely girl.
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EVERY FUCKING GAME WITH THIS TRASHCAN I LOSE STOP IT OR GIVE THE ENEMY TEAM ONE CLAPTRAP TOO
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>>171509974
>>171508705
Also MVP Black lost that game against the chinese with jaina
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>>171510148
>A thousand and one gods
>and none could save you
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>>171510148

>kill Kharazim
>A thousand and one gods, and none of them could save you.
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Why is the HOTS loading screen version of Terran 1 so comfy?
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>>171509794
Elemental is objectively bad. For Kerrigan though she is pretty weak and just has two bad ultimates. Ultralisk doesn't really mesh with her kit and maelstrom is there for a little extra aoe damage and shielding.

Lightning breath isn't good, the other ultimates though for the characters you listed are better and synergize with their kits more. For lucio sound barrier is too good, it's like sundering was for thrall, reverse amp isn't bad but it's no sound barrier especially when it makes up for his weakness of no burst healing.
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>>171509794
Reverse Amp is okay, Sound Barrier is just much easier to take advantage of and a much safer pick.
Both of Kerrigan's ults are shit, but Ultralisk is at least fun. Maelstrom is a glorified burning rage.
Falling Sword effectively cc's yourself FOR the enemy team.
Lightning breath makes you a bad turret.
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>>171511031
Lightning breath is literally amazing for the unstoppable it gives you.

Ultralisk is great for the backline hunting and shields it gives. It's stronger than a 2man malestrom.

Falling Sword is greatr for combo potential.

The other ults are better but not all the time. That's the entire point. Elemental is good but niché. All of the ones I listed have similar pickrates.
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>>171511385
It's never a good niche pick because it's too weak, it use to be good when it added to her burst combo in the area you dropped it aoe damage + slow to all targets in the area. Lightning breath is not amazing either, it's mediocre, it's not good though. Falling sword mainly for escaping/engaging. Ultralisk is a bad ultimate, but so is Malestrom. You take maelstrom because kerrigan is more of a combo assassin that needs to just blow someone up quick, that little damage helps out.

But all those are picked a lot more than Jaina's water elemental. Water elemental is probably one of the worst ultimates in the game, they really need to fix it, it's not niche because there is no situation where water elemental is better than ring.
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forced to play dehaka, help me
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>>171511803
>it's not niche because there is no situation where water elemental is better than ring
if you can't hit rings water elemental is better :)
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buff pls
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Leoric vs. Mordekaiser

Who wins?
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>>171512562
What talents vs. What items
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>>171512562
>the amount of people who get outright bodied by Morde because they don't understand how he works

>>171512334
>no news of a rework
Yikes.
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>Check heroes of the dorm to see my bracket
>Live game on, red team is Tassadar, Lucio, Ragnaros, Valla, Diablo

How do you possibly enable that draft? Did the Blue team forget how bans work?
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>>171512562
Morde hits Leoric with his 3rd Q
Leoric dies
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>>171512597
Full Drain Hope build + Entomb vs. Morellonomicon + Spirit Visage + Full AP

>>171512875
What about vs. pre-rework Morde?
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>>171512562
>Mordekaiser
What raid is he from?
Also why is his name one of those stupid "it's ironically edgy" names?
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>>171512562
Mordekaiser because items + masteries + runes in League are generally stronger than talents in HotS
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Post meme builds
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>>171513272
His name is fine nigga. Have you seen what the fuck he IS? It fits, if anything.
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>>171513272
>What raid is he from?
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>>171512985
>pre-rework Morde
es numero uno
huehuehue
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>>171513315
Typical zombie build is meme now?
Get the fuck out. Zombie's is just the lesser picked normal build.
Frogs are the true meme build, fucking wannabe pepe.
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>>171513732
Man I miss his old Q.
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>>171513732
>>171512985
>>171512562
>>171513880
Get out dotards. No one cares about your shitty "technical" game here.

>inb4 its LoL
I wouldn't know, I don't play normie trite shite. Go wank your tiny dicks some more.
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Lunara vs Hecarim
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>>171514087
All blizzard games are normie trite shit
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>>171514171
She's gonna get _________________
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>>171514171
It would take lunara like 2 hours to kill an afk hecarim
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>>171512770
>no news of a rework
more like "confirmed for not getting a rework any time soon alongside vikings and the like"
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>>171495729
I played like 2 games of dota against bots but I love Invoker's concept so much
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>>171516732

new bread
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