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Family Bonding Edition

>What's new?

>Probius (shit), UI revamp (now LIVE)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581816/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581817/

>For Azeroth reactivated; get a WoW mount by playing Warcraft Assassins
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/

> Two Heads Are Better Than One; get your free Cho'gall (if you haven't already)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20602241/

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0dr6H2N02I
>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20594604/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581824/
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581822/


>Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you first ban Lucio morons?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previous Thread: >>171384754
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>Purge Evil
>Smite deals an additional 70% against heroes who have used an abillity within the last 1.5 seconds
>Passive: Reduces Smite's Cooldown by 1 second

Is Tyrael saved as an Anti-Mage now?
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2. for based Tyrael, I cry everytime
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>>171516903

>smite now tickles under specific circumstances

no smite is still shit
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>>171517008
>Shields on Death
>Damage on Death
>Globe talent
Still the best option :D
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>Butcher doing less Hero damage than our Uther
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>>171517343
Uther has that W poke though. Of course a ranged hero will have more hero damage than a melee hero, but it's all meaningless damage.
Butcher did damage when it mattered.
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>>171517008
>smite is shit
???
It's literally one of the hardest hitting tank spells in the game, even without any talents. The only tank abilities that do more damage, as far as I know, are Deathcoil, Diablo's charge into wall and Lion's fang. And except for Deathcoil it's all by a really small amount.

With the 1 talent it even does more dmg than Sonya's seismic slam. It becomes the hardest hitting tank spell in the game. The only warrior ability that does more is Artanis' twin blades.
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>>171517724
>It's literally one of the hardest hitting tank spells in the game
yeah it's somewhere in that top 100 list
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>>171517724
>using Smite for damage
BRONZE
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>>171517724
>It's literally one of the hardest hitting tank spells in the game
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nth for OUCHIE TIME!
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Bridal Zagara when?
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When's the next in dev video boiis?
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>>171513315
i actually had a lot of success with that meme build
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How do you decide what to open with when playing Valeera?
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>>171513315
>>171518534
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/the-lost-vikings#onr4
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>>171518731
new player here
why are all the heroes so fucking expensive?
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>>171517859
:)

>>171517854
>>171517925
>underestimating Tyrael dmg
It hits as hard as a Frostbolt.

On level 1 with the talent q-> e -> aa until e is up again -> e does over 900 damage. That's more than 50% of health of pretty much anyone that isn't a tank in 6 seconds. 12 seconds of a Tyrael sticking on someone on level 1 is enough to kill most heroes. That is without level 4 and especially 7 which does a lot for his output.

I'm not saying it's assassin dmg but it's incredible good output for a tank that has all this in his base tanky build. A Tyrael sticking on you is certainly threatening. Ontop he's pretty much unpeelable.
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>>171518731
If you go assassinate/dfa you should open with that to catch people and squishies

CS when someone dive your team or if you can get follow up like tyrande stun or etc.

Garrote to stop heroes with high mov like tracer and zera.
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>>171518731
>Enemy super almost dead?
Damage
>Enemy has dangerous AA potential?
Stun
>Ability Damage enemy?
Silence

EZ
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>>171518935
Do a webm with the damage or stop wasting our time faggot.
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>>171519173
>so dumb he can't do math
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>>171518935
>36 friends
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>>171518935
• frostbolt: 190 damage 4s cooldown
• smite: 144 damage 6s cooldown
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im coming back into the game after a break, who is the OP hero now to get back into the rhythm?
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>>171519401
not an argument :)
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>>171518930
because blizzard thinks if they price them like this people will buy stimpacks
a while back they said heroes would start decreasing in cost as time went by after their release and they only did that for 1 or 2 heroes and never again

fucking blizzard
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>>171519581
Probius.

His turrets are fucking insane.
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>>171518930
Just do daily quests and the weekly Brawl match for the gold. You can get 10.000 in like a week average.
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should i buy sonya? i mostly play support but want to play a fun hero that isnt at mercy of 4 of my retsrded teammates
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>>171519509
• Purge Evil
• Tier 1
• Smite deals 30% more damage to heroes.

Also I did the math wrong, leaving out 2 autoattacks in the 6 scenario, and 4 in the 12s one. He does more than 1000 damage on level 1 in 6 seconds. In 12 seconds he kills every nontank except Uther, Butcher and Azmodan.

With 4 and 7 it becomes even more extreme. Those 12 seconds are then enough to kill Artanis, Dehaka, Sonya, E.T.C. and to bring Arthas, Diablo and Chen to under 100hp.
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>>171518935
post your build please
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Third Wind or Block?
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>>171520728
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/tyrael#gROi
The standard one.

1 I occasionally take regen master if I'm the only tank against heavy poke/burst.
4 Swift Retribution if there's a couple people on my team to benefit from more speed.
7 I used to like Zealotry when Imposing Will was a thing. Now probably still viable in those situations when you take Regen Master on 1.
13 You might take Burning Rage for more dmg in bruiser situations and for better waveclear.

>>171521009
All his level 1s are good. Block if they have heavy autoattack and lockdown so they can burst you down in a stunchain, else Third Wind.
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>>171520547
• Frostbite: All abilities Chill targets, slowing Movement Speed by 25% and amplifying damage from your abilities by 50%
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>>171519669
nah never paid 15k for a new hero
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>>171521619
I left that out. The point was to bring Smite's damage in relation to a popular spamable assassin spell. People seem to brush Smite's dmg off when it does a lot more than what most people think.
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Emm guys, reasons to run Samuro, I mean there are better options like Zera or even Valeera but I think Zera is the best, but I think Samuro is more fun because of illusion master, I think best maps are BHB and Warhead Junctions, if you are very good with him you can still get good value of him?
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>>171521885
>Smite is almost as strong as one of the weaker Jaina abilities
>And only when talented
>And when frostbolt isn't
>and isn't used twice.
>and on a longer cooldown

That's nice son
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>>171522080
Smite also is aoe :v)
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>>171521885
>It's literally one of the hardest hitting tank spells in the game

Well it isn't so I don't understand why you keep going on with this shit.
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Artanis is fucking stupid.
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>>171522221
t. bitter sonya that i just facefucked in solo lane on braxis

en taro :^)
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>>171522373
A part of me hopes the game is dead enough that it actually is the Sonya, desu.
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>>171522045

Where did you learn sentence structure?
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>>171522192
Which spells hit for more then? I mentioned some above.
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>>171522685
Like the other guy said, FB hits for more, ambush hits for more, arcane orb hit for more
>hurr but the talents xd
Yeah you already said that.
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>>171522787
>>hardest hitting tank spells
>>>tank spells
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>>171522913
>tank spell
>keep comparing it with fb
You sure are stupid.
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>>171523015
Are you literally retarded?

I compared it with other tank spells and then to put it into overall perspective also compared it with fb because who the fuck knows how much a tank spell does in relation to their hp.

>literally can't read
>you're stupid
Nice one anon
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>>171522221
I guess Shoebill's haircut is gonna be japan's new fad.
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>>171522373
Wrong.
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UTHER REWORK WHEN
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>>171523858
i fucked her good anon, i assure you im right :^)
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>>171522685
• blade dash
• twin blades
• death coil
• frozen tempest
• frostmourne hungers
• breath of fire
• consuming blaze
• rune bomb
• drag
• dark swarm
• shadow charge
• fire stomp
• drain hope
• spider mines
• ancient spear
• seismic slam
• whirlwind
• particle grenade
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So is QM the fastest way to level up if I don't have enough heroes for ranked?
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>>171524558
Yes it is.
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>>171524147
>Spider Mines
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>>171524147
Drag, Deathcoil, Spear, Slam, Shadow Charge, Consuming Blaze and Fire Stomp do less than talented Smite.

Frostmourne Hungers does pretty much the same.

Rune bomb is a Gall spell, the Cho one does less than Smite.

I obviously didn't count dot spells, only on activation single target ones.

Spider Mines, Frostmourne Hungers, Blade Dash and Twin Blades do more but only Frostmourne Hungers and Spider Mines are tank spells.
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>Blizzard matchmaking
>towers of shit
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Legendary starcraft skin for Varian plz
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>>171525185
>not liking based tower
>losing when you have 2 globals
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>>171524947
my list took into account 0 (zero) talents
i'm not going to put in the work to consider them but i can assure you the list would expand would that be done

discount dots if you so wish but do remember they exist and deal more damage
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>>171519439
>having no friends on bnet
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>>171525185
>Losing to Chogall
How bad can you be?
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>171525498
In Hearthstone.
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>>171525498
Cute Nightelves WHEN the FUCK?!
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>tfw no lich hero
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>>171525979
tfw no Kel'thuzad, Anub'arak, Arthas dream team
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>>171525945
right now
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>>171525979
KT is coming this year
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>>171526145
>hey no word on Kel'thuzad sorry but here have a probe
>a fucking probe
>and no Warcraft maps
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>>171526272
Don't worry bub, we'll be getting Hanamura when they release Genji
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>>171526147
CUTE!
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>>171526147
I want Love Goddess Tyrande to murder me with her thighs and butt
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>>171526272
What's the point of Warcraft maps if the setting is just generic fantasy?
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>>171526482
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>>171526482
Too far anon
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>>171526270
when
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>>171526716
Next year
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>>171525979
>>171526145
Just watch, Kel'thuzad is going to end up a core replacement hero who calls down Naxxramas and uses the various bosses inside to fight.
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>>171526830
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>>171527067
I wish it was different anon. :(

Before him we'll get the rest of the ow cast, the hearthstone hero classes except for Maiev and if we're lucky a meme hero from both Diablo and Starcraft.
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>>171525945
battle owl hero when ?
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>171526593
>>171526705

Maybe so, but you know it to be true.
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>>171527496
That makes it hurt even more ;_;

I was so disappointed and pissed off when they released Lucio, the next overwatch hero is going to make me kill myself.
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>Play Nazeebo
>Move him near an enemy
>"Ah, now I see."
>Tell him to attack said enemy
>"AAAAEEEEEEEEEEHHHHH AAAAAYYYYAAAAAAAHHHH"
What's with this guy
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Maybe I should just kill myself
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12566465
http://www.strawpoll.me/12566465
http://www.strawpoll.me/12566465


What league are you all?
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>>171527923
>1115 votes
Do NOT vote in this reddit poll
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>>171527923
>over 9000!

what the fuck
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>Jaina is a better character than Li-Ming
>Li-Ming gets the better Lunar dress

Explain this /hotsg/
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How we doing this season boys?

I'm not doing too great.
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>>171527923
>one fifth of players are Diamond
>one fourth are Platinum

Yeah, that sounds about right.
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>>171528468
Had amazing promos, 8-2, won some to d2 but now lost some and did the mistake of playing one night when I was tired which made me lose 3 and dropped me to d3 halfway, the spot where I started out.
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>>171528468
3-2 TL
haven't played HL yet, but I want to go for bronze since i can just get mount rewards from TL there's no point in playing HL seriously
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>>171528468
>no Rehgar
>all losses

Hm.
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>>171528807
kys Herbit lol
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will this run on a toaster
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>>171528989

barely
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>>171529010
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>>171519808
Does the game get fun at any point?
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is this game fun?
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>>171529248
It's most fun when playing Draft or Team League
you can find a group for team league by joining the lfg chat in game
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>>171529342
yes
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>>171529248
It gets more fun once you find your character(s) and understand the maps. If you don't at least enjoy it now though, then I doubt the difference will be enough.
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>>171529248
>>171529342

Games are only as fun as you make them.

Don't take games so seriously and it's a pretty casual laid back experience. It's only when people rage or get assblasted when it sucks. Even losing doesn't have to be unfun, it's all in your head.
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Who to get to 9 next? Or should I get Varian to 10?

Also pls rate
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>>171529738
valeera
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>>171529738
Nazeebo is crazy good
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>>171529891
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>valeera in every game
>frustrated because she's so shitty to play against
>pick up tassadar
>fuck her over with 10 second detection and laser fucking her at all times
>winning streak

I've ascended this mortal realm and I have become one with the khala
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>>171530294
IT IS DESTINED
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>>171530294
The amount of fotm heroes who destroy stealthies right now is staggering. I'm surprised anyone's having troubles with them.
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Would you be her friend, /hotsg/?
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>>171531298
What's a friend?
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>>171531298
Do we get to fuck?
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>>171531762
I don't think so Anon... you are a human, it doesn't work that way.
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ONE

LESS

TRAITOR
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>>171532108
How is Leoric in competitive?
I tried him out for a bit during his free week; he felt pretty sturdy and self-sustainable, plus the whole never fully dying thing was convenient, but at the same time I felt he was a bit lacking in damage.
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>>171532268
He doesn't get picked much. Tomb tends to be only map where he's picked apart from some rare cases. He does real well in double tank, supp+tass+valla comps. Apart from that he's too squishy most of the time.
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ONE

LESS

FORT
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>our team 4 assassins and tassadar
>their team 1 specialist, 2 assassin, tassadar, tank varian

thanks QM for the free lose
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>>171531298
Monarch BW is best BW.
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brightwing going,

going , going
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Save your words primate. Spare me from hearing your orifice flap.
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Sure thing.

Arm chair general.
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You nerd actually play with sounds turn on lmao
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>>171535167
What kind of jerk hits a little girl?
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>>171535167
lol nah man that ruins my dank "high as a kite" playlist lmao
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leaked emails pointing towards tychus being gutted for having a "trump supporter personality"

why is pol always right

i'm so fucking tired of it
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>>171535365
what
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>>171532268
Leoric's not a real tank but he's good at draining the HP bars of tanks who stay around too long so he's good with a second tank that takes most of the actual damage while he gets to be a walking area hazard.

Dropping tombs makes for great teamfights when the enemy can't just auto-jump out of it.
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>>171535365
explain
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feminism is ruining this game
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>>171535167
Did this meme catch on or is it always the same guy trying to force it?
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Remember when Tychus had 2 health bars?
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>>171535365
should i buy probius? is he shit because he is pro-trump?
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>>171536230
literally just some /pol/lak memeing
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Why is Wrath Sonya wearing tank armor with a 2h DPS weapon in her mainhand and a tank sword in her offhand?
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>>171536361
Heh heh, yeah. I remember it when… OH **** ****ING CIGAR FELL IN THE ********, OH, OH, ******* WAIT, wait...okay, it’s out... whew, nothing got burned. it’s alright everybody, just calm down.
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>>171536361
Remember when Tychus wasn't a melee hero?
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>>171535365
That sounds like some shit people would joke about in emails, and then when said emails get leaked, fucking retards would take them literally.
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Love Goddess Tyrande or Blood Elf Tyrande /hotsg/?
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>>171536823

sex goddess > all
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So, what's the deal with this Nexus place?

We just fight each other forever?
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>>171536823
Love Goddess > Eagle Eye > Warden > Master > Blood Elf
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>>171536941

It's an extra-dimensional timeless wasteland universe where things happen for some reason.

Who cares.
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>Both teams gets wiped in a clusterfuck fight under a Punisher
>Utter silence
>"Man, I hate being ded."
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>Valeera AND Cho'Gall
I'm fucked aren't I.
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>>171536941
a lazily designed setting created to provide an excuse, as weak as it may be, for an aeon of strife with official characters
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>>171537212
>Zuljin and Kael
Fucked you are
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>>171537189

>everyone gets fucked in clusterfuck teamfight
>silence
>shitter whos 0-2-7 and died first : "bg shit team"
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>>171537212
your team is solid as fuck and those guys are obviously doing the cho'gall quest

YOU HAVE to win
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>>171537212
>braxis
>they don't have a sololane
>you have 2 heavy pushers and 2 great sololaners
Will be a massive stomp
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>>171537212
All on blue.

>valeera useless
>cho'gall headless chicken
>zeratul will finish off the zul walking around with 4% health
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TAAAAAZ'DINGO!
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>it's another QM teamcomp episode
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>>171537784
>does 30% to an assassin and dies immediately afterwards
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>>171536941
Try not to think about it too much.
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>>171537784
>summons a 3/5 taunt which dies immediately afterwards
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>a gorillion orcs
>only one troll
>only one forsaken
>only two dwarves

This is NOT ok
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>>171538692
>only one blood elf
>only one ogre
>only one faerie dragon
>only one elemental lord
>only one worgen
>only one goblin
>only one murloc
wtf riot
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>>171538794
>>only one blood elf

There are 2, m8
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>>171538692
>Only one gnome, and it's not even a legitimate gnome

No nigger THIS is the problem.
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>>171539332
Remove Chromie
Add Alex
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>>171537278
>>171537359
>>171537512
>>171537706
Okay, guess it wasn't that bad.

Just lost horribly against a Chogall+Morales+Hammer comp in Sky Temple that I thought I'd win but my teammates kept trying to 1v1 Cho'Gall for 20 minutes so I didn't have confidence.
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Two in a row. I'm finally on a roll. Not the greatest roll, but better than nothing.
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>>171540727
Not the autumn tint. What's wrong with you?
>>
Gotta get back. Back to the past. Tastuh muh blade!
>>
I have played this game for about 30 hours.
I have LITERALLY never seen anyone pick Chen.
Why? Is he really that terrible?
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>>171542284
Anything that stops channeling fucks over Chen

There are a lot of abilities that stop channeling
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>>171542284
He used to be very low tier. Now he's good, but situational.
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>>171542284
He's okay if the enemy team has little to no cc and/or can't kill him faster than he can chug.

His wave clear is shit, he has no health sustain, and he also does little damage against a properly drafted team.

He's a situational last pick but not worth buying or picking in general because there are better alternatives who do his job better.
>>
>>171542284
He doesn't do anything other than survive
>>
Color editor when?
Too many cool skins in this game are ruined by terrible color palettes.
>>
>match doesnt even start
>our cho calls our probius a retard
>gall calls this match a waste of time
>probius ends up outdamaging both of them
>win
all hail qm and retards not moving away probius warp rift
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>>171544293
t. buttmad probius player
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>>171534361
Friends need Brightwing!
Must hurry!
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>>171544293
Tfw duo queing as malfurion and probius
>enemys face when root lands
>Probius noises intensify
>>
>>171546872
t. grandmaster who never plays qm
>>
Why is thread so ded today?
It's been slow for as long as I can remember but I've never seen one actually die.
>>
Im legitimately thinking about quitting HOTS until matchmaking stops giving me games where its our team vs a single valeera who can 100-0 us all because we have no support and she can deal 3000 damage in 2 seconds
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>>171550024
Be the support Anon.
Become the most loved person in your team and the most hated by your enemies.
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>>171550148
I have to play 3 games of assassin for gold anon
it doesnt help ive lost litearlly 10 games in a row due to circumstances mostly out of my control
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>>171550569
Go to unranked.
It's worth as much as QM and no matter what you pick it completes your quests.
>>
Why is valeera allowed to do more damage than any ult in the game with just her E?
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>>171550569
>10 games

I would be too pissed to continue after the 3rd one.
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What's the fucking point of having +64 damage if it's still not enough to outcarry the fucking Jaina and Valla WoW duo feeding the shit out of the Valeera?

I fucking tried so hard, almost seemed like we were making a comeback too. But noooooo, Valla has to roll into every bush and Danger ping to check for enemies, and the whole team can't seem to do shit to Probius 4v1 and never ever fucking whack a pylon even when it's blasting them in the face. And then they never ever fucking take merc camps because they're too busy chasing a Tracer into Leoric's tomb every single fucking time.

Why can't I stop it?
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>>171539417
This picture is really starting to unnerve me.
High levels of ayy lmao
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>>171551463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
Matchmaker is litearlly fucking with me at this point
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>Stimpack about to run out
>grinding levels and gold is slow enough already
>mfw Master Jaina skin never
>>
I haven't played for a long while, why is morales shit now? I thought she was fun when I played last so I bought her and she was also really good but now people avoid her like the plague

Did she get nerfed?
>>
>>171542284
Chen is super fucking fun but his skill floor is too high for the reward you get playing him and also channeling sucks atm

imo best master skin in the game as well
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>>171551528
You dodged a bullet.
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>>171551104
Rogues have always been bullshit m8
Play a Warrior or stick close to your Warriors to reduce the chances of getting ganked.
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>>171552423
I hate her more as a warrior than as an assassin
>>
When picking talents for Tyrande, am I better off going full support and only choosing talents that directly benefit my team, or should I spend some of them on improving my own damage output?
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>>171552872
Tyrande sucks because her support and owl builds suck and aren't worth it over the damage build but damage build also sucks because she wasn't supposed to be an assassin.

I usually just go AA on Tyrande and pick ults depending on teamcomp.
>>
I unironically enjoy Probius, should I buy his bundle or wait until next indev video?

(btw the money i'd be spending is "free" money, it was gifted to me)
>>
>>171553225
Yeah, kinda disappointing desu
I really enjoy healer/something else hybrid classes but neither Tyrande nor Uther manage to be at least decent at both.
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>>171553771
>buying his retarded terran skin
>tfw

buy a mount or something, better choice all around
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>>171553771
The bundle with the skin is still more expansive than the hero alone, so if you want to spend money and aren't interested by the skin, just buy the hero alone
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>>171551104
>300 base damage [x2 at level 20 on 60s CD]
>higher than /ourelf/ KT's memeblast with 1075 base damage
Loving every laugh.
>>
>>171552167
Yeah, just wait until he gets unstoppable for the first two seconds of boozing it up. New Panda meta right there.
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Should I pull the trigger /hotsg/?
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>>171554196
>$76
[confusion]
also no it is shit
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>>171554831
kek
That's the price in Mexican pesos
They are basically worthless, that's like three dollars and fifty cents, give or take.
>>
>>171554831
It's a burger thing. You know, dollars are worthless compared to our euro, so those high numbers might surprise you, but it's still plenty low.
>>
>>171555353
>yuropoor trying to start shit
Please stop before this general turns into /pol/.
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>>171555076
>peso
jesus fuck that is embarrassing
>>
>>171556473
Does anyone from zimbabwe play this game

How many millions of dollars is a skin worth
>>
>>171552054
Varian and valeera fuck her up royally
Add artanis changes, diablo changes and so on
>>
>>171554196
is there a spanish speaking chan?
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>>171556530
A 10 dollar skin is only 3,619 zimbabwe dollars
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>>171556530
Africa isn't a B.net supported region though.
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>>171556837
I used to play with a bunch of dudes from SA
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>>171556558
>positoning badly gets you killed
Gee, who woulda thought.
Automated Block buys you more than enough time to just walk away, and that's no including anything you do with grenade.
She's a low mobility healslut that's decently tanky with insane sustain, she works amazingly well with high damage tanks since she can provide the utility to keep them alive.
She's weak to spells and shit but just walk out of the skillshot man.

>>171556805
>only
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>>171557959
Ye no she's weak to dive heavy comps
No amount of positioning will save you from that
In QM is an easy win everytime I pick her too m8
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>>171558356
Most supports are weak to getting dived save Lucio, Brightwing and Rehgar.
The thing is, she's tanky enough to outlast any other healer in the same situation, so while they're focusing you they're bound to lose a guy or two.
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Post loss streaks
>>171558564
dove*
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>>171559294
Doves are fucking birds you idiot.
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>>171559860
Yeah you're right, but I wouldn't fuck them though
maybe you would
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>>171558564
the difference being she has no way to heal herself in that situation, and they even removed her 50% safeguard so unless you medivac out of there her healthpool is her only defense

>she's tanky enough
not really, even malf and lili have more hp

captcha the eiffel tower is a lighthouse
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>>171554196
i wanna pull the trigger when i see those feet

jesus christ
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>>171542884
He has sustain, moron. Brewmaster's Balance.
>>
How good is placing plat 3 right now? I've seen some previous season portraits for like diamond and master here. Does everyone get moved down at season start?
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>>171562074
You start placements at the rank you ended placements on. People just drop because they are the only constant.

>plat 3
Fresh accounts start at Diamond 3.
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>>171562074
im sorry but youre simply not good at the game until you start placing d3 with 500 points 3 seasons in a row with more losses than wins
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>>171561628
Yeah great, he can use that to sit outside the fight instead of being fucking useful.
>>
>>171562074
>tfw hovering around gold 2
this is suffering
>>
>>171559294
Im on 12 right now. Really killed my desire to play
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>>171565875
t. nova
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>>171566878
Speaking of nova, a nova just died 12 times in this game
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>wake up
>no new hero announcement
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>>171567319
Are there any hints at all ?
>>
>>171567319
>>171567406
it's too soon, Probius was here for just a week, wait one more week for potential hints and two for announcement
>>
i've lost 11 out of my latest 12 games and 90% of the time it's because of some suicidal retard with double digit deaths
>>
>oh easy win we have a great comp
>Team gets shat on
>I get shat on
>We dont even take one fort
>Feel useless
>Am useless
>>
Next hero better be a waifu
>>
>tfw gazlowe is now OP
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>>171568304
>implying blizzard wants money
>>
>>171568486
>Yfw butcher charges you
>then eats three bombs in a row as a result
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>master skin azmodan
>takes the most useless talents
>completely unaware of either team
>doesn't orb except directly on top of minion waves

>master skin butcher
>plays worse than free week butchers

>master skin varian
>takes twin baldes
>>
Alarak is pretty good. Why don't I see more people play him?
>>
>>171570249
>Difficult combos
>one mobility gimmick that most use offensively
>situational ults
He's a neat character but you can't just run in and get kills like half the other assassins in this game, hence him not being as popular.
>>
I'm done with this dead game with the worst matchmaking known to man
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More monster girls when?
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>>171570956
That skin makes me want to get back into LoL.
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>>171571393
same
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>>171570956
>"Monster" girls where it's just a normal woman covered in various doodads
Bilge.
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>>171570249
shit lategame
basically a kerrigan without that sweet waveclear
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>>171570956
>naga never
Fucking blizzard. Wish they at least started making more interesting skins for characters
>>
>>171572535
Alarak has more utility than Kerrigan.
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>>171572223
The only thing "human about her is her humanoid form and hair
>>
lauralania

what a slut lol her mods dont even ban from chat
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>>171572907
her voice is so shit tho like worse than a tranny voice
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>>171572697
Never ever
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They should make the auto select guy an actual hero. Maybe have all of his abilities randomly taken from other heroes and get replaced by a new one upon use, with a trait to lock 1 ability at a time in place.
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>>171572223
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>>171573594
they should send you and your family to a death camp
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>>171572223
Monster girls are like kind of like mythical creatures or other kind of human girls with non human parts. Like a mermaid would be a monster girl, or dryad or harpy. A mermaid would just be a human girl with a fish bottom
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>>171573810
that'd be nice. unfortunately it wont happen and i'm stuck being a wageslave for the rest of my life.
>>
>unlock valeera, play her for the first time
>play her 9 more times
Honestly the most fun hero I have ever played
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>>171568156
You will do better in your next game anon, i believe in you.
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>>171573893
Are you okay ?
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>>171574856
Im trusting you cunt, This better not be my literal worst game yet
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>>171575808
>>
>>171575808
each hots game is worse than the last, that is just how this game is designed
>>
>>171576015
When you get out of a game or switch tabs wait a few seconds you beetlenosed crescent-smelling dad feltcher
>>
I used to shitpost against this game on /v/ but fuck me if it's not actually fun

I take back all shit posting
>>
>>171576512
We could have some fun as long as the game isn't actually fun
>>
>>171575808
>le motivational
You're gonna fucking lose.
>>
So is the game borked after the hotfix?
>>
>>171570249
He has no survivability and his base damage is undertuned to compensate for Sadism.
>>
>join HL game
>heroes picked
>suddenly get disconnected
>click reconnect
>"error occured. please try again later"
>restart
>same problem

if I get a leave for this I'm gonna be pissed
>>
>>171578086
At least you get to reconnect. I lost 700 rank points when it happened last night
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>>171578221
but I cant reconnect
>>
>Being able to recognize player names because how shit they are
>They're always on your team
Put a bullet through me.
>>
>>171578336
Uninstall
reinstall
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>>171570956
When I first saw this I didn't realize that it was a zyra skin
rad
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>want to talk about bug I'm exploiting
>know that redditors and blizzard employees are lurking and it will be fixed soon after I tell them I'm having fun
>>
>>171579585
I hope you come back to talk about it when they fix it.
>>
>>171551597
Why though?
It gets rid of Jaina's delicious midriff
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>>171579852
The skin itself is good and her tits are actually bigger with it.
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>>171579852
>not using master jaina
anon....
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>blizz broke the entire game for:


Gall: Twisting Nether can no longer be cast while in Molten Block form after learning the Shifting Nether Talent.
Kharazim: Fixed an issue that could cause a slight delay between Ability casts after shift-queuing Radiant Dash.
Zeratul: Fixed an issue that removed all Mana Cost and Cooldown details from Zeratul’s Ability tooltips.
>>
>>171579940
>her tits are bigger with it
Holy shit you're right. I never noticed that
>>171580195
Her master skin is definitely one of the better master skins in the game. I'm also a big fan of Cho' Gall's
>>
>>171580371
Greymanes master skin is a complete upgrade of his default.
>>
>>171562074
>>171564521
>tfw stuck in silver 2 cus trash teammates
kill me now
>inb4 git gud
>>
>>171580371
Most of the master skins are shit like just add a helmet lmao but some of them are god tier like Greymane, Chogall and Valeera.
>>
>>171581094
Best master skin is Rehgar because ghost wolf lmao
Also, master valeera skin ruins the best part of her base skin, the 3rd chroma
official tier list: valeera, Valla Rehgar > Malf,auriel >>>>>>>everything else
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>>171581262
>Also, master valeera skin ruins the best part of her base skin, the 3rd chroma
Dunno I think her 3rd regular color is shit I mean just look at those ugly pants.
>>
>>171581094
>>171581262
I like Alarak and Tyrael's master skins the most desu
>>
>>171581403
You're still on the master skin you nitwit
I love (You)
>>
>>171581403
2nd base skin color is best
>>
>>171581473
I forget to write I'm biased to the pic related tint.
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>>171581617
Man the 3rd base chroma is the best :_/
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>>171581741
I disagree.
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>>171581798
Poor Lili.
>>
What the fuck was this patch?
>>
>>171581897
>having john de lancie critique your tea
She's lucky if anything. He'll force her to learn to make some bomb ass brew.
>>
>>171582219

>>171580239
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>our team kept getting constantly wiped
>fuck it let's have some fun
>take all range talents on hammer so i can basically auto attack across the entire map
>never leave our gate
>the game should be 15 minutes long since our team kept getting wiped
>tfw it ended up 40 mintues long becase the white boi couldn't compete with my big black cannon and % life damage from huge distance
that was fun
>>
>>171582515
They don't call it silver city for nothing
>>
>>171581798
Wow, Alarak is a BIG BULLY
>>
>>171518731
After 7 almost always ambush. Gm by only playing valeera here
>>
>>171525498
Zeratul
>>
There's something about HotS that's just so immersive compared against other MOBAs. Maybe it's something about having established characters, or maybe it's just the fantastic sound design. But halfway through a match as the Butcher or Diablo I find myself grumbling and growling like a demon, or when playing Valla or Illidan my mental voice takes on a low, seething tone. Or just laughing vilely after landing Corruption hits with Gul'dan.
I don't know where I'm going with this. Does anyone else find this infectiously immersive or am I just autistic?
>>
who will be the next hurro?
>>
>>171583849
Season 3 or 4? Show GM a month from now boy
Otherwise valeera is very fun to play no matter how hard you shaft your team :^)
>>
>>171584807
I also love this game mate. I think the only MOBA i enjoy more than this game is Awesomenauts.
>>
>>171583849
Ambush/dfa is the best Valeera

>Gm by only playing valeera here
That's actually impressive if you got in s3.
>>
>tfw wasted 10k gold on varian just before they turned him into trash with his -20% health boost
fug
>>
>>171585145
160 % HP
140 % * 1.15 = 161% effective HP
Other than a 1% buff it now takes an extra 15% max HP damage to kill him
>>
>>171585045
That was s3. Got there after about 12 days
>>
I WANT TO PLAY RANKED.
NICE HOTFIX BLIZZARD.
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>>171585287
What lvl 1 talent is the best?
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>>171516732
>new patch
>draft
>loose connection
>status locked lel
>>
>>171585667
I'm not valeera only gm but I'm the best player in hotsg.
Block is awesome 90% of the time, the stacks don't expire either
Extra energy regen (not the quest one) is also real nice too
You don't get the quest because of how long it takes and you don't need it once you reach 4 anyway
>>
>>171586063
>I'm the best player in hotsg
>doesn't mention crippling poison

Yeah you're a shitter.
>>
>>171585667
Combat readiness 90% of time. I take sub sometimes
>>
>>171586146
Oh yeah. Crippling poison if you want to slow people by 25% for 5 seconds. Nice to stick on people or run away from those with no gap closers or cc but I don't think it scales as well, especially compared to an actual combat talent like block
>>
>>171586063
>>171586146
both of you suck ass
>>
>>171586063
>I'm the best player in hotsg
Is this a new meme or just one really autistic guy giving pointless responses?
>>
>>171586557
inb4 "I play semi piano combat support assassin valeera with 4 active abilities"
>>171586610
No I just say that a lot
>>
>>171526589
What's the point of Starcraft maps if the setting is just terrible sci-fi?
>>
171586741
.t autistic shitter
>>
>>171587041
What's the point of diablo maps if the setting is the most generic angels and demons?
>>
>>171587148
what's the point of hots if the setting is a terrible generic moba?
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>>171587223
What's the point?
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>>171587074
I feel like a pretty good person and I'm fairly skilled at this game, I don't see why you have such a problem with a specific thing that I said
>>
is there any fix to this matchmaking bug?
>>
>>171587517
Blizzard should just push their update early and a bug fix with it
>>
PLS HAVE EMBERLORD ZULJIN ON SALE TOMORROW
>>
>>171579852
That truly is a downgrade, yes.
I'm tempted to spend actual money on the Tempest Regalia skin since it has both midriff and no hood.
Don't like the blue skin color palette though.
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>>171587358
WHAT?
>>
TURN ON CNN

UPDATE HAPPENING
>>
>playing the weekly brawl
>Everyone gets to be sgt hammer
Fun times were had
But seriously that shit was like a war of attrition
>>
When should I commit and die on Leoric vs. retreat/tapping or backing?

How often do """pros""" just die on Leoric and not give a fuck?
>>
>you are just relaxing, trying to have fun
>you get put into a game in THAT map

Which one is it /hotsg/?
>>
>>171591456
0 deaths = perfect
no matter how many matches you throw : ^ )
>>
>>171591796
Blackhearts Bay
Warhead Junction
Dragon Shire

In that order. Though only BHB is objectively unfun.
>>
>>171591796
Garden of Terror or whatever the fuck. Any fucking map but that piece of shit.
>>
>>171591796
GoT
Shrines
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>>171591796
If I'm playing my Valla or Rehgar I prefer any map but warhead. Even GoT isn't that bad if you have a good player on terror. If I'm auriel I want Braxis or haunted mines. If I'm valeera I want a 3 lane map that allows me to 1shot that stupid probius player
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hey guys how y'all doing. 2 months left on my 9 month silence. cant wait to play some ranked!!!
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>>171592467
>9 month silence

wew lad
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>>171591796

Warhead
Blackheart's

And I guess I'm the only one who loathes Battlefield. Shitters in shitter league never seem to know when to defend/race.
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>>171591796
Battlefield of Eternity.
So many people just don't know when to attack the enemy immortal or defend your own immortal.. and I'm one of them, I can just never predict well
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>>171592913
>>171592556
It doesn't really matter how high up you go.
1 person does something and the rest follow suit be it a ping, "d", or "attack" in chat
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Probius is not for everyone. He's technical, he's difficult, he's hard. That's why his winrate is shit. Perhaps he needs some minor buffs, but strong Probius players are extremely scary. Wait it out.
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>>171593407
>top probius player
>he's still getting held back by impossibly shit abilities
The strength of a hero may depend on the difference in skill between you and your teammates and your opponents.
A strong hero may be one that can beat a better player or team just by existing.
Probius requires a good player against very bad enemies, more so than just about every hero in the game.
I hope probius has a change in kit rather than just ludicrously buffed numbers.
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>>171594010
>everyone rushes mid
>do massive amounts of damage with my w+q
>already have 12 stacks for my w quest
>we still lose the fight

I don't understand.
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>>171594010
What kind of extremely dumb nonsense is that? Medivh took MONTHS to get figured out and brought into pro play. Probius is a hero like we have never seen before. We don't know how to play him. We don't know how to play with him. We don't know how to draft him. We don't know how to synergize with him. Hell, we don't even know the correct build yet.
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>>171594304
Like I said the skill of your teammates also matters
t. best player in hotsg
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woohoo! probius!!!

cant wait till they make a peasant, peon, acolyte, wisp heroes. and whatever is the lowest tier unit for the zerg and terrans. also a zombie from the diablo franchise would be pretty cool!!!!!
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>>171570956
Cute girls in hots WHEN!?!?
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>>171594549
Granted medivh did take many months to figure out and get adopted to *pro play* his win rate on *hero league* is still trash.
Quite possibly both of these heroes just don't exist well outside of a high skill team play environment.
I've seen some medivhs, they play well and do well. The very good probius I've seen plays extremely well but he just can't get stuff done with two very low impact ultimates and a kit that doesn't benefit from skill the same medivh's kit does
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>>171594803
I would unironically play a Peasant just to hear him go "MOAR WORK?" and "That's it, I'm dead"
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>>171594549
>We don't know how to play with him
>explode rifts with blast when idiots walk over them

we kinda do
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>>171594845
AHEM
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>>171591796
Garden of Terror. Please god let it end.
>>171594845
She's already here though, did you forget?
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>>171594845
We already have the cutest girl, Zagara
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I think zagara needs some aort of buff since she's(it's?) Just a shittier azmodan
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>>171594845
Right here. Also Tyrande
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Just had my first 40+min game. Shit was fun though, no one was flaming throughout the game and the Illidan even apologized for playing bad after it.
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>>171594845
Cute and fun.
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>>171594845
She's p. cute if you can get past the spooky eyes.
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>remember I have not touched QM on ages
>QM for quests
>mfw
>quest on vs AI
>mfw
bots are infinitely better than monday players
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>>171591796
Infernal Shrines

I've won a single game on that map since its inception
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>>171596261
>not HL for quests
When you don't even have to fulfill them, just play games
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>>171596261
KT and Lunara bots are actually better than the grand majority of the playerbase.
Like almost grand master tier, if not top 500.
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>its a gm player blames the whole team even tho he has the worst stats episode
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>>171596471
>gets gm in first 2 weeks
>gets icon
I hate this feature of hots, why can't it actually be an achievement like in league
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>>171596602
Remind me of that nazeebo on all the pro players streams.
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>>171596471
>kharazim only tf's, never soaks
>goes for dangerous camp situations on bhb
>initiates fights when we're down a tier the entire time
>full retard didn't save us this time
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>>171596871
I'm that Rehgar on all the pro players streams :D
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>>171595151
Your core is under attack
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>>171596448
nova bot is not grand master tier but holy fuck shit's eternally better than most nova players
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>>171579585
Yeah, just don't.

I'd be curious as to what it was after it's inevitably fixed, though.

>>171596602
>you don't have to end top 200 for Grand Master

ebin
especially since all accounts basically start in Diamond
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>>171596973
No I mean a shitty nazeebo and he was like gm 16 when the season started but he fell to diamond eventually because the gm system is shit.
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>>171596973

The white winter rehgar?
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>>171594845
The cutest of all
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>>171594803
>whatever is the lowest tier unit for the zerg and terrans
SCV and Drone, but a drone wouldn't work because drones sacrifice themselves to construct buildings.
SCV could totally be a hero, but he'd be massively niche since all his spells have channeled cast times.
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>>171597440
Nah red master
I haven't been doing well though, I blame it on the beginning of the season
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>business model for this game relies heavily on selling skins
>not even half the cast has a Legendary skin

I don't get it.
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>>171597586
If her skin actually looked like that then yeah, sure.
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>Lucio hero: Feels just how Lucio is supposed to feel basically a perfect conversion from his OW counterpart.
>Probe hero: Absolute dogshit and doesn't feel like a proper probe at all.

What happened?
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>>171597586
*sluttiest
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>>171597586
Best girl
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>>171597586
shes a stupid whore
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>>171599212
blizzard pussied out from making an actual worker unit
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>>171599212
The fact that they thought we even needed a Probe hero and not a "Big Name Hero"
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Fem draenei in hots when?
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>>171599239
>>171599342
You take that back.
She is a priestess.
She is pure.
PURE
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>>171579585
To be fair i talked openly about the anub hive master bug for like 8 months and i think they fixed it recently, but that's because of chromie. A hero that can constantly bring stasis instead of only vp/maw
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>>171599967
Hey, I said she was best girl.
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Any more leaks come out recently?
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>>171600056
Whoops, meant to quote >>171599682

Sorry m8, you are alright in my book.
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Pls Blizz give me Therazane, shes my favorite elemental lord. Rag was kinda cool but hes not my favorite.
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>>171600334
I would much rather have Al'akir or Neptulon
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>>171600218
WHORE.
SHES INTO BIG BLACK COCKS AND KEKED MALFURION ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
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>>171599913
Who would be a notable Draenei they could put in the game?
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>>171600515
WIIIIIIIINDS
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>>171599913
Right after I get a belf that isn't a slut.
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>>171600334
Al'akir is my favourite, but just like Therazane and Neptulon he will NEVER EVER come in Heroes of the Storm, for the simple reason that they only appear in shit-Cataclysm and were all very badly and underwhelmingly represented back then.
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>>171599967
After being ravaged by Orcs and Demons awakened her insatible sex drive she can't stop herself from being a massive whore.

Animals, humans, greenskins you name it. The dumb whore is addicted to sniffing musky cock and being bred. Bitch loves to be mounted and claimed by mutts even, what a cumrag this "proud" priestess is.
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>>171600727
What are you implying Anon?
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>>171600334
Fuck that give us Mephisto and Baal
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>>171600727
So, right after Kael'thas?
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>>171600727
So never?
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>>171600746
Don't shamans interact with them heavily in Legion?
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>>171600593
FUN and CUTE
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>>171600727
>blood elf that's not a slut
Even the paladins are sluts and they're supposed to be all christian n shit. You're fucked.
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>>171600792
>whore is addicted to sniffing musky cock and being bred
That's my fetish
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>>171600334
>>171600515
>>171600647
>>171600746
Elemental lord get out of my thread.
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>>171600593
I think the only female one I can name is yrel, blizzard doesn't make that many female draenei characters despite them being the best females in wow
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>>171600879
Ah, maybe, I don't play shaman on WoW.
Anyway, Al'akir is supposedly dead, just like Ragnaros, and I think Neptulon never reappeared after his shitty unended scenario in Cataclysm (since that would require to actually explain what happened, which would be very embarrassing for Blizzard) so I guess it's only Therazane, then.
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>>171600984
>My sons, don't ever talk to me again.
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>>171600593
>Male
Velen or Maraad

>Female
Yrel or OC

>>171601067
Shamans unite the elemental lords to fight the legion.
Neptulon and Therazane are alive, Thunderan reborn become the new wind lord and some random fire elemental is the new fire lord.
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>>171601039
>>171600593
Ishanah is better.
At least she's not from a garbage alternate timeline and expansion.
She's the High Priestess of the Aldor, you can find her in Shattrath in WoW.
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>>171601208
>>Male
>Velen or Maraad

>not Akama
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>>171601208
They need more OC characters in hots. I wish they would just once in a while design a character not in any of the games.

>>171601303
That would be cool, but I don't think anyone knows who she is. They would probably make up a new character or just use Yrel
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>>171601380
I forget about him tfw the dhs cucked him again.
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>>171601039
The only Spacegoat I like is Soulbinder Tuulani, but shes just a random NPC nobody even cares about except me probably.
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>>171601380
THERE'S NOBUNDO TOO.
BEST DRAENEI WITH VELEN.
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>>171601531
>that one super obscure npc you ended up waifing
Who is she, /hotsg/?
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>>171600559
Do you have a single fact to back that claim up?
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>>171601620
I meant, with Akama and Velen. Akama always will be the number 1. The first draenei we ever met.
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>>171601531
Everyone liked her, she was like the only fem draenei follower that would work with the horde and alliance
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>octograb artanis
>nice easy kill
>retard diablo starts flinging and pushing him around the entire map so everyone misses their skillshots
>his team arrives and he escapes
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>30 days of stim pak costs as much as a hero, a mount or a skin
>try and convince myself not to get it
>mfw leveling people to ten

I wonder how many games a day I have to play at losses to equal 10,000 gold from bonus gold in a month.
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>>171601750
books and game
she also enjoys blue balling people.
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>>171602038
Do NOT buy stimpacks Anon, that only reinforces Blizzard's worst behaviors.
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>>171601750
It's just his fanfiction anon, don't give him (you)s
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>>171603516
play wow or read the books faggot
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>tfw Li-Ming vs. bad players and you get endless resets all game
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>>171601737

L I L I A N V O S S
I
L
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A
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V
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S
S

okay she's not super obscure but whatever
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Is Sonya too strong? She's like the ultimate punisher of low dmg comps to an ridiculous degree.
Add to that the fact that she's like top 3 solo laners and it gets a bit silly.
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Why don't people realize how good bloc pary talent is vs any team with AA?
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>>171605493

So draft and ban better.
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>>171605790
because there a bunch of popular heroes that make block talents a big meme
zarya, tracer, tychus, tassadar, lucio etc.
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>>171605796
drafts shouldn't autowin/lose the game
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>>171606002

They pretty much fucking should. The entire draft system is put there for you to ban broken heroes and counters to your draft. If you lose at draft it's most likely your team's fault, thus, they're stupid, thus, they deserve to lose at draft.

Sure there are a lot of exceptions. But if you draft a team that Sonya can single handedly beat, don't ban her, and they last pick Sonya, you fucking deserve to lose.
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>>171605863
Why don't they simply have that attack type not trigger block? It's pretty retarded already that they get to take chests and shit for free.
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>>171606437
Why should they? Sure you should be able to get an advantage by superior drafting, but never to the point of downright winning by default. Actually playing the game should matter more than knowing what heroes are the most OP.

Obviously a somewhat balanced hero pool is a requirement for this.
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>when your last 2 picks have the perfect picks but then some retard starts with some shit and they go double assassin and you end up as solo tank dehaka
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What heroes actually have good alternate builds and not "this is pretty much the best build, aside from one or two situational talent levels, unless you wanna build a meme mode QM"
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jesus christ hl is the most cancerous thing in the universe.
Master players insult everyone and think that they are superior than anyone else (even if they play worse).
Diamond and Plat players think they are the shit, while feeding and fucking up everything.
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>>171606719
Rag E build is extremely potent, especially lategame, it's just hard to compete with the broken Q build.
Valla has arrow, multi and full AA builds and they all have their place depending on which comp you're facing.
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>probius
is it a fucking roman probe? whats with le reddit name? would protoss even name a fucking probe, and let alone name it in latin?
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>>171607604
developers are redditors
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I don't know how much longer I can do this, season is pretty over for me.
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>>171564252
Oh? Yeah, because it totally doesn't work in combat, no siree.
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>>171608459
holy shit that's fucking tragic
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>>171607604
It is long for Probey.
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>>171608459
>actually playing the rng ranked mode
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>>171608459
Well, that makes me feel a bit better about my Gold 5 last season.
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>>171608459
Play better heroes and you'll win more games
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>WE MAY BOTH BE KINGS, BUT I LEAD THE PACK

Wtf? Fuck you greymane
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>>171609964
Are you retarded?
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>>171610025
Pretty fucking discourteous to say to another king desu
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>>171610179
He leads the pack of wolves, Varian leads the tribe of humans, what's the problem?
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12 minute game

:^))))))
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>>171608459
YOU ARE THE RANK YOU DESERVE ONLY CONSTANT GET GOOD MAYBE ITS YOUR ATTITUDE HAVE YOU TRIED COMMUNICATING WHY DONT YOU SAY POSITIVE THINGS TO BOOST MORALE HAVE YOU WATCHED XDADANKSTREAMAX'S GUIDES WHY DONT YOU WATCH ESPORTS YOU CAN LEARN FROM IT
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>>171610492
Are you still in diamond 2 mewn?
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>>171610658
AT LEAST RANKED IS STILL BETTER THAN QM LOL FIVE CLOWN FIESTAAAAAAAAAAAA

LMAO FIVE CLOWN FIESTA
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>>171610658
dont bully mewn pls he's a fragile flower
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>>171608459
stop playing auriel

stick to joh and zarya only. it's fucking hero league. play who youre best at
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Five clown fiesta is starting to sound like something from Taco Bell.
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>>171611108
What if Auriel IS his best character?
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>>171606719

Kael'thas
Jaina
Chen
Tassadar
Chromie
Anub'arak
Zarya
Sonya
Samuro
Azmodan
Leoric
Li-Ming
Valla

Generally speaking though you see more talent diversity in higher levels of play because people learn the power of counterplay talents. "Builds" only exist for a few heroes really, picking to counter your opponents yields much better results. Winrates and pickrates among talents can be very misleading.
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>>171611430
I actually performed well with her last season, this season she is a dumpster fire.
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>>171611921

Auriel didn't really change though.

I think people just learned how to pick against her.
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>>171611859
Counter picks generally only exist on specific talent tiers, I wouldn't call most of those a differnet build.
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>>171611921
>>171611972
Auriel is still really strong because a bunch of the popular characters right now dont carry hard CC. Honestly aside from that the only thing you need to look at is you have a good energy generator (any reliable damage from a mage or ranged auto attacker) and you're good.
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>>171612054

Almost every talent is a counterplay pick. Maybe someday you will understand.
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>>171611921
>I preformed well last season
what was your rank/mmr last season
because somebody around 1700 should have absolutely no business trying to play her
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>You da boss
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>>171612339

>here come da thicc daddy
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>>171612234
Unless you're playing garbage rank, most heroes have too much synergy between talents to give that up and just go for "the counterpick" every tier.
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>>171612383
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>>171612459

t. gold
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>>171612664
More like master.
Give me some examples of those counterpicks. Or hell, link me a match report where you made some unique talent decisions to counter the opponent.
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>>171612760

drafting is a fluid thing with a lot of variables

need specifics to draw proper choices and possible options

that's why every pick/talent/map is counterplay, every variable matters and determines the path you choose to go
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>>171612339
>>171612383
>>171612570
There's no reason she should be this Thicc
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>>171613214
Well I asked you to link a game, you can choose the specifics.

And really, the topic was talents. And the fact of the matter is most heroes dont have talents that are balanced enough to allow for much diversity, both in terms of overall build and specific choices on each tier.
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>>171613347
Yes there is. He's a jungle Troll. Shit, he could've been even thicker considering this is him near the end of his prime.
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>>171613347
>she
also he should be even buffer tbqhwy
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>>171613879
>>171614924
Is there any lore of any jungle troll being bigger?
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>>171612570
>>171612339
>>171612383
Kind of sad we got some axe throwing "prime of his life" zul'jin instead of the punished zul'jin we met and fought in WoW.
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>>171610486
let me guess he flamed all game long
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>>171615487
as someone who started Blizzard games back with Warcraft 2 im happy we got this Version on Zul'jin
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>>171615487
>>171615643
I'm pissed we didn't get Vol'jin instead desu
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>>171615487
Who the fuck want to play a one arm druid wanna be cuck?
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>>171613879
Shit, I meant Forest Troll. Jungle Trolls are the kind you get to play as in WoW, Forest Trolls are the gigantic motherfuckers.


>>171615259
The biggest we know of/have seen is Kazra'jin, on the Council of Elders in that boss fight in ToT.
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>>171616162
The forrest trolls on isle of thunder are different to the amani trolls though no?
>>
NOW IS THE HOUR

OF MY GOLEMS RETURN
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>>171615259
Original forest trolls always looked like this but then blizzard was too lazy to make proper models for them so they used the shitty lanky darkspear model.
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>>171616097
but zul'jin losing his arm is a pretty big deal
the player character trolls in WoW used to have the warcry "revenge for zul'jin" before they made him into a straight up villain
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>>171615487
>Udyr
Ehh, I'm not sure they made the wrong decision.

>>171616162
Fug.
That's a pretty big guy.

tfw trolls still lanklets
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>>171616493
>the player character trolls in WoW used to have the warcry "revenge for zul'jin" before they made him into a straight up villain

Actually that was removed because lore wise the trolls from a small isle in the middle of the ocean wouldn't know about Zuljin.
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>>171615605
no, he never said anything
never did anything either since not topping siege as xul on tomb means youre either physically handicapped or afk
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so this fucking game i was so tilted. i tried to do everything i could to throw. that artanis was grouped with me previous. i died 15x the game before. he said zul will die 20x this game which he was right. i was so angry we won this game ruined my 0-10 meme
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>>171615643
Get out reddit
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>>171617004
VERY next game were on opposite teams. i'm sure he's gitty with joy. probably leaking precum with telling his team "gucci will die 25x this match GG. so i had to prove this faggot wrong. he did ruin my 0-10 meme. I got quest done by the time i hit level 6 and destroyed from there. went to whisper him "did i do ok" but the faggot already logged off kek
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>>171616347
Not him, he's a representative of the Amani. He was their current leader. The Council is made up of reps from the different tribes, he was the Forest/Amani rep. All the mobs on the island are Zandalar, I believe. I think some are that sand tribe, but majority are Zandalar.
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anybody got an Arthas build? i need a quick rundown on how to play him
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PLAY THIS FAT FUCK.

NO MATTER HOW MUCH I DRINK I DIE.
NO MATTER HOW MUCH I BEAT PEOPLE WITH BARRELS, THEY LIVE.
FUCK
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>>171617252
he has multiple good talent choices on different tiers depending on enemy comp, but this is a general build
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>tfw no pve mode like the tutorials
I had more fun playing through those for the first time than the actual game, desu.

>>171617469
I'd almost just recommend playing suicidially aggressively until you learn the limits.

>dodge shit that can stun your D
>know your damage output
>know their damage output
>knowing when their point-click CC is up
>know to hold Q to dodge their shit

And so on.
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How the fuck do I increase public order in Athel Loren? God damn
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How do we fix Samuro?

He's generally considered to be bad but his winrate is high. What's the deal?
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>>171618220
He is only bad in the esports scene because of the high communication and coordination but he works in hl/tl. This is also relevant with the butcher.
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>>171618168

Wrong thread my dude
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>>171618220
Check and see how many of his games are from low ranks. Gaz has a 50% winrate only because he does well across MANY games from Bronze to Plat. Very few games in Master where it matters, so it isn't really indicative of him as a hero overall.
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>>171617735
Do I build damage or survivability?
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>>171618367

He's also high winrate even amoung masters.
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>>171618336
I do this all the time. Fuck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnPIFEcO7Yk thoughts? :^)
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>>171618819

bronze/10
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>>171618604
Yeah, of 293 games played. Not a big enough sample size to mean anything by a long shot.
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>>171618961
Is not that bad but isn't Mcintyre a shitter from naventic?
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Why is Falstad first pick/ban in that tier list in the OP?
I can't even play Ranked yet so I don't know my probable rank, but I never see him in QM
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>>171619591
He's global which is good on big maps, same as dehaka
Usally first bans are Rag Sylvanas though
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>illidan players
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>>171619591
gust is incredible, but it's practically impossible to use to its full potential in uncoordinated clown fiastae
so don't believe that list
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>>171619591
He can jump lanes on large maps to soak like how TLV is autoban on maps Garden of Terror for that reason, and he's a decent AA fighter to boot.
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>>171619591
Global and gust.
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>collect health globe quests
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>>171620231
It's sad that they all suck with like one or two exceptions.
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>Samuro
>Morales
>Malfurion
>Probius
>Li-Ming
epic Blizzard, just epic

great team
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>>171620802

>QM

no one cares about your le fun mode

Play draft if you want a balanced team.
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>>171620846
good point but what if i no :P
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>>171620381
They suck because they're orb collection quests. Like fuck, I don't want to be tied to a lane to get this shitty quest done.
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>>171620958

Complaining about QM is pointless. There is literally no way to balance QM because the game is about building a proper draft and counterplay to the enemy team. Not being able to do that removes all possibility for an even remotely balanced match outside of mirror matches.
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>>171621074
yeah true i just thought it was an extraordinarily shitty team comp
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Diablo is fun to play.

But why does he sound so bored? Even his death screams are just "eeeeggghh (whatever)". HOtS made he sound like he needs a hug or something.
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>>171621142

There's been worse.
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>>171621157
Being immune to fear has sapped the thrill out of everything for him.
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>>171621157

Shitty Diablo 2 version of Diablo never had emotion. It's true to the original game.

Diablo 3 skin may change that.
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>>171621157
>Why does the Lord of Terror, who lives in hell, not care about dying again
real mystery there
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>>171621809
well dying doesn't feel very nice
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>kharazim ftp
i really, really like kharazim :3c
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>>171621809
>>171622031
He literally laughs when he dies if you have 100 souls
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>>171618565
Hybrid of both, I guess. My build is:
evasion 90% of the time, grounding brew the other 10%
ring of fire
Balance
SEF
Honey
Kick range
SEF

Not that guy, btw. I've probably played chen the most of anybody in this thread though desu
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>>171621215
>I have that probius on my friends list
Fug
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>>171624970

small world frend
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>>171621215
>Chase
I think I played with you once

Was that the best healing you could do?
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>>171625891

I'm bad sorry if I ruined your fun :(

Alarak no bully
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>>171626250
I must leave.

And I blame that defeat upon you.
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tfw lunara isn't real
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>>171626803
She sounds like she'd be a bitch.

like ye mum lmao
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>>171627334
tfw lunara isn't my mom
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Lately, I've been winning more, but playing worse.

I'm still solo queuing, so what does that mean?
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>>171627724
It means it's completely rng if you win or lose when playing solo
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>>171627724
that you should go hero league

you shitter
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>>171627334
>She sounds like she'd be a bitch.

She does, right?
Her demeanor is not cute at all.
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>tryhard slyvannas on enemy team
>style on her entire game despite her fancy footwork and banshee bullshit

laffin at shitter speacialists rn
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>take templar's will and laser split ability at 20
>hit core
>it forks to heroes standing behind the building
>slowly kill someone and pushes someone else back into hall

I like new tassadar
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>>171628458
What exactly constitutes a tryhard Sylvanas?
How can you even be a tryhard with that character?
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>>171628762

if they take movement speed and double banshee and mind control, they are a tryhard
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>take bladestorm
>lose

>take illusion master
>win

makes ya think
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>>171629047
illusion master is a nightmare to use though
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Can someone give me a good spooky voodoo-man build
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>>171628872
>double banshee
>movement speed
theyre in the same talent tier at level 13 u dip
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>>171629257

spiders
garg
more spiders
poison talent 20

if you want to play safe

range
wall
garg
more wall
poison talent 20
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>>171629316

it's the same talent so yes
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Chromie
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>>171631978
Chromie is a small, frail SEX GOD who sweats pheromones like waterfalls and make male heros erect within a 1000 miles radius of her. She possesses the ultimate weapon of conquest, which can claim even entire forts without an opponent entering her sight radius - the Big Bronze Dragon Vagina!

When weak assassin bois see a Chromie coming, they naturaly lower their defenses and forfeit in submission, knowing full-well how completely and utterly powerless, frail, in-need-of-fountain, utility pleb wrecks they are in comparison to Chromie and her BDV.

No matter how much you autistic cuckolds here on /hotsg/ bitch and moan, tiering and ranked play dictates that other assassins get weeded out of play by more powerful skilled Chromies !
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How do I counter nova when I play chromie
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>>171632967
You counter Nova by hoping your team doesn't let her shit all over you
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I love how hard this game tried to make you feel good about yourself when the match ends

>Great job! You only died 5 times instead of your average 6.2

Or some equally trivial achievement.
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>>171633383
>tfw still no real match history
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That was painful but it worked out. That's the magic of QM.
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>>171634612
>mfpt
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>>171629197
That's why you have to git gud.
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>>171634612
>mfpt
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>>171634671
>>171634730
what are you trying to >imply?
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>page 10
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>>171638076
>dead game
>dead thread
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W H E N
H
E
N
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What would Imperius' kit be?
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DID I MENTION THAT THIS THREAD IS BEYOND DEATH?
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>>171638734
Why is the Gravekeeper such a huge nerd?
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>>171638814
His only company is a bunch of skeletons and the Raven Lord. And the Raven Lord keeps making fun of him.
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Death? ...................I am..............the master..........of death.
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>>171639045
Fuck you!!!!!
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Remove Lucio
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Remove Varian.
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I think I somehow crashed my HL game.

I crash on reconnect and the game doesn't want to update the stream. Hopefully my teammates have the same thing.

Diablo
Crashed as soon as I charged into a merc into a wall.
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>>171639343
Update

The game did not count
I was losing too.
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>>171639343
>get up
>fix tea
>check ribbit for news
>tons of people disconnected from their game
>all of them lost 600+ points

Yikes.
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I'M SO GAY AND DRUNK HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>171640537
>that soak
wew lad
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>>171640537
>that experience contribution
>tfw so few infinitely scaling Heroes
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>>171640537
>that little hero dmg as naz
33k on malf though
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where patch notes
>>
where hero teaser

where in-dev

where real match history

where gifting
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Where my true love
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>>171641362
>don't you think we should get voice chat in. it's pretty standard.
>no rework the ui again.
>but those are separate things?!?
>no just one thing, ui.
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>>171641362
Where loot boxes

Where Mei
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>>171641946
Blizz should play smart and only release OW heroes from now on
OW is basically the series that now matters
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I like Tyrande's design and I want to like playing her but goddamn, it always feels like I am doing so much effort to just barely keep up.
What is a good/standard build for her?
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>>171643435
I forgot tyrande existed
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Who is the better stealth waifu, Valeera or Nova?
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>>171644283
Taoshi
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Can i sue matchmaker for discrimination this is getting cray
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>shadow charge valeera
>spam overpower on the character unit at mach speed so it occurs asap
>she can pop smoke first. every time. guaranteed. without fail.

you are now aware that this is the case. how do you mutherfucker FAGGOTS explain this. what logical back bending assfucking cuck shit will you come up with to justify this?

I eagerly await

git gud memes tee hee hee
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>>171645302
>vs a diablo she takes smoke instead of UNSTOPPABLE ultimate of spell immunity
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Ill level with you here fellas. Im considering jumping ship from league right now, but i got a few questions first

Is there an equivalent to master yi and or jax?

Is it ded?

Whats the community like?

Also do you have to pay real money for heroes or do they cost a large amout of currency?

Thanks
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what do i do? ive been mvp for a lot of these but i just CANNOT fucking carry
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>>171646153
People will tell you it's dead but it is not, they just keep repeating this really not funny or significant meme. About lol heroes I have no idea, didn't played with them.
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>>171646153
The community is much better than lol or dota. You can pay for heroes with both real money or in game currency. You can get gold easily by quests and brawl. Look it up in the op.
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>>171646153
>Master Yi and Jax
Probably The Butcher.

>weak early, scales hard
>Q is a frontal line slow
>W applies mark to target that's basically the equivalent of having six bloodthirsters when you hit them
>E is Vi ult that can be cancelled
>R is Camille ult

Just keep in mind you'll basically be a melee creep with a stun until you finish your quest.

>ded
No, although it's quite a bit smaller than League and Dota.

>community
Basically the same, although there's definitely an attitude that it's "less toxic" here. Perhaps? Things are generally a bit more...relaxed.

>do you have to pay real money
The option is there, but it's possible to be 100% free to play without disadvantage.

>200, 300, 600 or 800 from daily quest(s)
>1000 from weekly brawl
>500 from reaching level 5 on Hero
>750 for reaching level 9 on Hero
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>>171646490
This is sad.
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>>171646490
Well, that's unfortunate. Do keep in mind it is Quick Match, though.

>talents
>mmr
>replay
>whatever

Just need more info.

>I'm usually MVP
I could be entirely off but this does suggest you're playing for KDA.
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>>171646623
Hmm, butcher looks intruiging. So does monk and diablo himself. Might pick them up. Thanks for the info

To be honest I was sold the moment you said you dont have to pay

So thanks for clearing stuff up


>>171646607
>>171646529
You too, thanks
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>>171646153
Regardless of your rank in league take most of the mechanics you know of and throw them out the window
Autoattacks don't work the same in hots, some like tychus aa, zarya aa, tass aa have some sort of beginning animation that makes them impossible to perfectly "stutter step" with
the community is smaller and everyone has dunning kruger syndrome. rank doesn't really equal the same it does in league, say hots is 1/5 as large as league the top 200 in hots is really like the top 1000 in league.
top 1.1%(diamond?) is really all the way down to platinum in league of legends
if you don't at least pay for stimpacks(you don't have to) get ready to grind for a while
Rehgar, Valla, and Valeera are the best heroes in the game and I am the best player in hotsg
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>>171647138
I wonder if there are more people in Diamond than in Bronze.

feels like
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>>171646978
The worst part is my MMR is still fuckin diamond according to hotslogs, so I wasn't even supposed to win these games. I'm being set up to fail.

I don't aim for mvp, it just tends to happen
>>
e
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>>171649462
SPORTS
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>>171638415
I could see her being a Zagara skin, if nothing else.
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Every other ranked game is a loss, The wins I do get are due to team communication and proper ban/picks. everyone is on the same page, Every game I have lost has had at least one person who picks gaz and refuses to play objectives or work with the team, Ignores everyone and does his own thing. I really hate Gazlowe, I don't even understand why he attracts the most autistic of players the game has to offer.
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>>171638734
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO THOSE WRETCHED ARCHIVES

More bans for the list
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BUFF MORALES
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>need a multiplayer game
>considering HotS because it has some waifus and also some of them appeal to my fetish(es)
>but also fucking BLIZZARD game
Someone shillpill me on the game?
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>>171655880
This game is the definition of fun.
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>>171655880
Whats wrong with it being a blizzard game
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>>171655880
Iz fun
Quick game, no worry about wasting 40+ minuts grinding
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>>171646490
>people still complain about QUICK MATCH losing streaks

are you actually fucking retarded
>>
WHAT SKINS ARE ON SALE?!
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>>171655880
Games are fast
Last hits are fucking archaic shit that is held over from the inabilities of the StarCraft and Warcraft III engines
Talents keep game flow high since there's no need to concern oneself with dumbass shops and menus, just periodically presented with 2-5 options to take
Majority of the cast are established characters and not OC donut steels (there are some though)
Excellent sound design
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>>171655880
its strongest point is not being as shitty as other mobas. still shit, still a moba.
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i can't launch the fucking game
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>>171659135
>too dumb to press buttons
Assfaggot players, everyone.
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>>171659265
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>>171657454
>oc donut steel
Don't talk to me or my wife's Li Li ever again.
>>171659135
If you just updated your drivers, try launching hots with dx11.
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>>171659421
>Don't talk to me or my wife's Li Li ever again.
Li Li Stormstout actually existed in Mists of Pandaria in 2012, two years before Heroes of the Storm entered technical alpha.

Unlike Sgt. Hammer, Brightwing, Lt. Morales, Murky, etc.
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>18 days since last new content information
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>doesn't use bans
>picks murky
people should get permabanned for this
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>>171659737
I thought that was where you were going with that.
Might as well add probius to that list.
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>>171659897
ETA 1 hour and 23 minutes
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>>171659737
If anything they need to add more OC characters, instead of just making this completely an ad game for other blizzard titles, there should be more unique hots heroes.
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>>171656291
>>171656464
>>171657454
That will do

>>171656415
They just did more bad than good over time.
Like Sonya's artwork shows her being ripped as fuck just the way I like it but ingame she doesn't even have a hint of abs???

>>171658164
I guess. But I'm so desperate for some multiplayer game that I will try anything at this point, except mobile games
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>>171660206
No.
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>>171660282
that artwork was a mistake
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is ragnaros bugged? he just stands still after i press q in range of a hero
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>>171660673
That was something they supposedly fixed a while back.
What happens is it interrupts your last movement order, instead of acting like an instant ability or modifier it completely stops you like a skillshot would.

See if you can fix it in the hotkey menu.
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>>171660842
what am i supposed to "fix"
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senior peon ll in hots when?
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Guys total noob here, is Heroesfire the best site for build guides? doesn't seem be that busy/popular....
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>>171661685
Icyveins is a little higher skilled/better on the "guide that explains what this build is doing" front for me
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>>171661685
its ok since ur a noob. doesnt rlly matter what u pick on ur level. u can also google "srey's tier list and talent builds" those are the best ones online
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>>171661685
Just go to hotslogs pick a hero and filter by master/diamond and just get the most picked talents. Those are usually general builds, there are obviously some situational picks but if you are just starting out that will give you a good and updated groundwork for builds.
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So when will they fix the matchmaking to make actual balanced teams?
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>>171661808
>>171661861
>>171661953
T-thanks guys.
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>>171662140
They implemented a bunch of shit to QM. Tanks vs. bruisers, stealth limits, off-supports.

Or do you mean, no 1900 MMR on a team with 2000 and 2100. That won't happen. Averaging is keeping queues short and a few thrown games isn't top priority because if the 2100 player plays as a team, the 1900 will get in line.
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>>171662525
Matchmaking fucking shattered this week, anon. I've had games with 3 supports or 3 specialists or 4 tanks. Shit's melting down.
I'm hoping this maintenance will do something about it..
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>>171662640
>4 tanks
Think that's actually impossible. You sure it wasn't 3 tanks and Varian? Varian is tagged as an assassin for matchmaking purposes (and it's goddamn cancer).
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>>171662640
Specialists are not considered differently from assassins, certain supports and tanks are no longer considered primary so they will appear next to stuff like Lucio and ETC.

3 supports is fine if the enemy team has the same shit.

It seems they finally implemented what people asked for and now people are being dumb about the assigned roles.
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>>171662816
It was probably like Zarya, Varian, Artanis and Muradin and he's retarded.
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>>171646623
To add to that money thing:
Every new hero released costs 15,000 Gold, will be down to 10,000 Gold by the time the next hero gets released and may go down as far as 2,000 Gold eventually.

So let's say 10,000 Gold for a recent hero with about 1 new hero per month.

Daily Quests range from 200, 300, 600 to 800 Gold.
Let's assume your unlucky and always get the 200 Gold Quests in a month averaging at 30 days.

30 x 200 = 6,000

Plus the weekly brawls which all give you 1,000 each. With 4 brawls a month we have:

4 x 1,000 = 4,000

6,000 + 4,000 = 10,000.

So even if you have the worst luck, investing about 1h per day will enable you to always afford last month's hero.

This is not even counting the Gold you get for leveling characters and your profile.
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>>171662903
>Blizz bothered distinguishing Bruisers and Tanks in hero description
>will still get a solo Leoric vs ETC and Artanis
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>>171662525
>1900 and 2100 mmr
You mean 1500 and 3000 mmr players in the same team
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>>171663778
The problem with that is that they fucked up with warriors are bruisers and which warriors are tanks.

aka. everyone's a fucking tank except for like 2 tanks who are classified as bruisers
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>>171662903
>Tyrande isn't classified as a support anymore
>so she is now an Assassin expected to be able to deal with a 3-tank enemy comp
Blizzard just keeps fucking with the follow-through even if they do something that's in the right direction.
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>>171664119
They should just completely take over the Hotslogs types.
Tyrande is a support, not a healer.

Also, I'd support the establishment of the "newbies get out REEEE"-class including Murky, Cho'Gall, Abathur, TLV & Medivh.
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Am I a bad person?
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>>171665073
>not using favorites for potential bans
>>
WHY ARE MASTER AND GRANDMASTER PLAYERS SO FUCKING STUPID.
FUCKING TRASH GAME
>>
Is there any way to get a battlenet ID from their username?

Been trying to find someone specific, but all I got's their battlenet name.
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>knock off hots has maiev
>HS getting maiev
>wow featuring maiev in 7.2
>still no maiev in hots
?????
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>>171665345
you could try to search for them on hotslogs
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>>171664012
Most of them are fine.
Except Chen.
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>>171665598
The banter between her and ill better be god like
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>>171665598
that's luna
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>usually win 7/10 matches
>if i pick diablo i lose 100% of the time
>last 6 games with diablo were all lost
>i'm pretty gut with diablo so not my fault
what the fuck, why am i getting placed into retard teams with diablo?
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>>171666957
>lose 100% with Diablo
>i'm pretty gut with diablo so not my fault
Sure buddy. Whatever you say.
>>
>thought it was battlefield of eternity
>it was infernal shrines
i feel so stupid right now
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>>171666590
I'm honestly aching to see if her inevitable Moon Priestess skin would still be obsessed with him.
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Surprised we lost with this draft in QM
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>>171668243
there is nothing surprising about that
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Like why should i even bother opening with anything else but stun with valeera? that is 2 seconds of the shitter getting vaporize, silence is garbage he can just run and abush is a joke, he will use his abilites to get away or kill you
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>>171668243
>enemy team has Thrall+Rehgar
>your team has FOUR specialists
>surprised you lost
You are the only constant.
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>>171662140
Play hero league faggot

t. Blizzard
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>>171668321
Death from above build is best. Deal sick damage
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>>171668604
There's no balance in HL either because of how the MMR works in this game
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>tfw you team refuses to leave the enemy base despite having literally nothing we can do there
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>5 man stunlock fuckstack on Quick Memes
>We have a duo
Thanks blizzard.
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>>171671315
>playing valeera/etc/li ming with friends

feels good
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How come I can hit all skillshots with relatively ease except Muradin's Q and Thrall's W?
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>>171671647
Anyone can tell how and when Thrall will toss that shit out.
Mura's hammer toss is easy despite the fact that he raises his hammer every single goddamn time so that people can read you.
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>>171669471
Ranked tends to get better weeks after the season, maybe longer than a month like in lego legions
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Game would be better if chat was permanently off. No one has anything worthwhile to say ever. It's a liability and does nothing but make teams mad and hate each other. Pings are better 100% of the time, and no chat would encourage more pings.

Tell me I'm wrong.
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>>171674382
i like when my allies tell jokes tho
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>>171674382
Maybe if the ping system was less shit
>>171674460
Why did the murky cross the road?
Because he saw a black guy ahead
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>>171674906
>Maybe if the ping system was less shit
mfw no mia ping so I can spam question marks on my stupid teammates
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>>171674382
They need to introduce the pings that have voice lines for EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER but no in game implementation, like "Lane enemy missing", "collect things", "capture thing", "yes", "no", and "protect me".
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>>171672429
Except it doesn't because the MMR system is broken
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>>171675654
I guess you have to carry more games than you lose
>>
>>171674382
pings should go too. for every person using them decently there's 10 pinging inane shit like no one else has ever played before. even then there are only a handful of split team situations per game where they have significant value.

>>171675159
>no kys ping for when someone with 200 games pings to start a boss as soon as it spawns.
>>
Do different regions get different weekly sales or what?
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>>171675371
>Start of every game
Jaina: Yes. Yes. Yes.
Valla: No. No. No.
Uther: Yes. No. Yes.
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>>171671647
I've been having trouble landing Artanis swaps consistently. Sometimes I'll go on a streak of dank switches from across the map. Other times, I'll miss a stationary Azmodan. I don't get it.
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>>171665598
They were going to put her out last month but she's another warcraft assassin
>>
hotslogs got around my ublock filter again, any fixes?
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>>171676656
Didn't hear no magic word.
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>>171676162
>blizzard releases kys ping
$10
>people use it
12 month silence
>complain about ban
ToS, but if you'd like to get unbanned now give us $50
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>>171668243
Looking at those stats it looks like your problems were as follows:
Your Medivh was shit.
Your Nazeebo didn't solo-carry past 20.
Your Lucio didn't recognize how important his speed song iswhen working with low health heroes.
Your Sylvanas was concerned with solo-laning instead of three man pushes.
You had a Gazlowe instead of an Abathur

That said, if your team was even a little shit at watching the mini-map and Medivh wasn't on his A game, your team would get fucked by any surprise rotations.
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>>171676656
why do we even still use hotslogs
why can't blizzard release an official API
at this point it's becoming increasingly necessary
>>
>>171675654
>>171669471
>I'm shit so MMR is broken
>>
>>171676883
lazy fucks
i could easily code something better than hotslogs if i had the data
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>>171677074
All of the data is in the replay files, silly
>>
>>171677026
>individual MMR
>your team has more control over your MMR than you do
Yes, it's broken
>>
>>171676795
pls these ads give me cancer, they slow the site down so fucking much
>>
Individual MMR in a team game was a mistake.
>>
>>171660565
She looks good there though
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>>171677330
Stop using the shit site
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>tfw you insult your teammate after the match and block them so they cant reply
>>
tfw my week long 13 game loss streak continues and oncemore its a valeera that singlehandedly carried the game for the enemy by oneshotting our entire team constantly
is she the evelyn of this game?
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>>171678405

Was this you
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>>171678017
yea if youre into shemales
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>tfw the ability that would save your life is always on 0.1s cooldown just as you die
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this is so stupid
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>>171679935
Not my fault you can't handle a big strong amazon woman nigga
Sure the face could be better but she's looking angry and shit there it's not like that is a relaxed normal expression
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>>171679206
no that wasn't me
>>
>>171679206
How do you even get so mad?
>>
>>171679206
Why you heff to be mad?
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>>171681819
>He took Prog Rock instead of Block Party
>>
>win 3 objectives in a row
>tank dcs
>ping him
>prioritizes camp over their main damage dealer
>blames rest of team for loss
why am i the one losing points over this again
just give the third world fuck -1000
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>>171682636
iz only gaem
>>
I think I'm becoming a guldan main
Help
>>
Blizzard sure is taking a long time to announce the next overwatch hero in development
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>>171682684
comps?
>>
>>171682684
Prog rock is amazing when you take it e cooldown later on.
Block party only works if your team sticks with you, prog rock gives you 400 hp per cast.
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Can a completely new player get into this game reasonably?

Is the playerbase big enough that I will get a learning curve of playing with other new players, or will I be pitted against pros from the start?

I'm not new to mobas, but it appears that HotS is not just any moba.

What is the most popular/traditional/MLGPRODUDE mode?
>>
>>171684634
Gul'dank is a subtle good hero. People still haven't and likely will never learn to dodge corruption, because dodging laterally is so counter-intuitive when nearly everything else is dodge medially.
Same thing for Cho's Upheaval and it's the only reason Kerrigan functions at all.
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>>171684637
pls no
pls
pls
>>
>>171684987
>will I be pitted against pros from the start?
Lol. Most people who play this game, and mobas in general, are garbage. Just maybe watch a few streams of good players, and ask any questions you have here, and you'll be off to a good start
>>
>>171684987

QM is the most popular mode, buy matchmaking is unfair due to the nature of the game mode. Its fine for practice though.
>>
>>171684987
My friends got into it recently, they didn't have trouble except for which talents to pick or how important it is to soak xp.

For each time you play a new hero, you will be playing against lower mmr players than you would usually do.

People either play Quick Match or Hero League (Ranked), some opt to play Brawl too for the rewards.
>>
>>171684987

Considering there are only 6000 players online at any given time in the entire world, I would say DED GAEM
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>>171684634
Why would you want help? Embrace the fel friend.
>>
>>171684987
>Can a completely new player get into this game reasonably?
Yes but you'll need to work with the welfare heroes for awhile before they'll let you into the ranked modes.
>Is the playerbase big enough that I will get a learning curve of playing with other new players, or will I be pitted against pros from the start?
Kinda messy there, you'll be pitted against people who have played a bit usually, or people who have played a lot and are just bad at the game. The playerbase is not large enough for you to be placed entirely with new people.
>What is the most popular/traditional/MLGPRODUDE mode?
The quickest and most popular mode is, naturally, Quick Play. But traditionally Hero League is considered the most skillful individually.
>>
i must say, the hl wait times are incredibly low compared to dota and lol at similar mmr
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Lucio is the best healer. So fun.
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Did we have any chance to win it?
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>>171685934
OH
>>
>>171686769
THIS
>>
Hearthbabby here. Anyone who plays, is the following true?

Master = Legend
Diamond = 2-1
Plat= 5-3
Gold = 10-5
Silver = 19-10
Bronze = 20
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>>171686807
IS
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>>171686940
MY
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>>171686975

dik
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>>171686975
>>
>>171686874
Diamond is more like 5-1
>>
>>171687768

Plat players are really that bad? Hopefully it won't take me too long to git gudder than them.
>>
Why do people still play tyrande?
>>
>>171688132

Ass
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>>171688132
Ranged stun.
>>
>>171688186
she's ass alright
>>
>>171688017
Pretty much. I think Diamond is like top 5-10%
>>
STOP PLAYING SAMURO
>>
>>171689879
hes fun tho
>>
>>171689614
10% would put diamond into the teens and plat around 12-17 in hs unless their chart has changed
>>
Unacceptable.

YOU SHALL KNOW MY CURSE
>>
why are some people so fucking blind to objectives over kills
>>
*quote from le game*
>>
>>171689614
In league diamond is the top few percent. Christ it's crazy how different the ranks are.
Anything below masters truly is bad-
>>
>>171689879
I see the bees gabeedees
>>
i wish they would remove all the fucking spell armor shit already
>>
>>171690648
Kael'thas go back to being dead.
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