/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

>>171154217
Shields are great against mobs, and are even generally serviceable against bosses. Using Dragonslayer's against Nameless King almost completely negates any chip damage you take from his attacks, cockblocks King of the Storm's fire breath even with its comparatively weak fire resistance, and has enough stability to let you eat most of a combo from Nameless and give him a few R1's in return.

Then there's bosses like Oceiros who, if you can dodge his magic attacks, is completely cockblocked by any shield since he otherwise only has physical damage. Why complain about his no-telegraph rush when you can just block it and still attack him during his recovery?

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>>171147584
>>171147650
>>171147664

I know about finding patches in fire link. Ive played the game a few times its just that ive never once been able to trigget him showing up in the cathedral of the deep.

Well once he showed up after dropping from the rafters but he didnt lower the bridge.

I just think its kind of lame and dont understand how you would naturally trigger him in ds3.

Like in ds1 its very straightforward to get him to trigger his scenes.

>doing a greatsword run, no shields
>up to pontiff
>prepare my anus
>turns out Astora Greatsword can stagger /ourtree/ with a charged R2
>2 charged R2's can kill his stand
>every time he summons his stand it's a big 'HIT ME' sign and I deal 800 damage
It's a big chance from my usual dexfag thrusting sword playstyle, but it's fun.

>>171154974
UGS charged R2s are the reason I play this game

So I reallocated back to a dedicated FTH build after cumming in my pants at the sight of the new lightning arrow miracle, but I miss muh Swordspear. Kinda want to take my level above 120 but I don't know what the Pvp and co-op traffic is like at the 150ish level

>>171154721
>>171154718
I just recently played through ds2 and there's some things i like. Mostly the animations when you're character is severely injured or out of stamina and climbing ladders quickly.

But ds3 just feels and looks so much better.

Ds2 feels weird in combat because you move clunky and strafe slowly. Also the parries are weird.

Ds3 parries feel so good and rewarding.

>>171154504
http://imgur.com/a/00ozT

Collected images of all weapons we've seen the stats for. If anyone has any better images or ones that are not here, please post them. This will be added to the next OP.

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>>171154185

the gray giants seem to be elite enemies. One gray giant in particular summons a being from the sky, this is the fucking angel boss

>>171154662

it's an honest to god real dragon, it's front feet transformed into a second set of wings, giving it 2 sets

>>171155081
I have a faith build and sword spear.

I have almost no stats on dex or str but the lightning damage does OK from lightning scaling

You could always swap to a bident or different spear and buff with sunlight blade for massive damage

>>171155281
>splitleaf GS
>it's a halberd
>it's a pure str halberd
>it's a pure str halberd with a unique WA
Fuck yes.

>>171155281
>Dragonhead Shield drops
>WA is fire breath
>stats align relatively well with pyro builds
I forsee this being a thing.

>>171155415
But it aint an everlasting one then. Or maybe it lost its scales somehow?

Its certainly reason why Nameless defected.

TRC went up on the playstation store as available for preorder today. As I checked out I saw the preorder theme, but the theme didn't download nor did it show up in my themes list.

Anyone else having this issue? I live in europe if that's the problem.

>>171155457
Just because something has a letter under int or fth doesn't mean it's a pyro weapon.
That build has 40int/40fth and gets a whole fucking 5 fire AR from scaling

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>reach the end of the ringed city
>meet Gwynake, the half-snake daughter of Gwyn
>she explains ringed city and her existence in anextended 14 minute dialogue
>gwyn himself then appears, and gives a 26 minute lecture on the history his cities: Londo, New Londo, and Anor Londo
>Londor, the furtive pygmy, appears from the entrance and hugs his brother Gwyn, before giving a 12 minute explanation of what the dark soul is and how he spread it throughout the world
>the mother dragon appears from above, giving an 18 minute dialogue explaining the dragons, their role as gods, and the events leading up to and proceeding the great dragon wars.
>Nameless king drops off the back of the mother dragon and takes 19 minutes explaining how he siding with the humans during the great Lordran Civil War.
>god himself descends, named Gwynitofizalithefurtivepygmy, and explains why he created the first flame, and the first lords
>they all tell you to destroy the first flame for good, so that a new world can begin
>a summon sign the size of a dragon now appears within the SoC boss fight
>allows you to summon the mother dragon that breathes fire down onto the battlefield frequently, which can kill you. you must survive this to access the final ending.
>in the new ending the mother dragon burns down the tree stump, causing the first flame to plummet into the earth and be destroyed, taking you with it.
>the entire world implodes, and everything goes dark
>a tiny flame can be seen in the darkness, as it grows you can start to see grass around it, as birds start to chirp.
>screen goes black
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fftF5lh58qE [Embed] starts to play
>credits roll over continuous snippets of gameplay from all three dark souls games
>when the credits end you get a "thanks for playing!" message superimposed over a picture of chosen undead, BotC, and SoC all giving you a thumbs up
>screen cannot be closed without resetting the game

would you like this?

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>>171155281
Also, for those who were talking about it in the previous thread, the Aquamarine Dagger that the guy was using to three-shot the mobs was a +5, so it probably uses Twinkling. The character they took through the DLC was SL195 with 45/25 Str/Dex and 40/40 Int/Fai, so it's possible that it may hit even harder with 40-50 Dex and 60 Int.

>>171155531

everlasting dragons dont exist openly anymore anon

dragon =/= everlasting

>>171155263
Personally I really started to love Ds2 parries as soon as I figured out the timing on them. They were slightly clunky with how something just falls over but still very satisfying and actually felt useful as a combat tactic.

Ds3 parries by comparison are a bit easier to figure out the timing on (though still not as much of a breeze as they were in Ds1) but due to factors like the increased speed and fluidity of combat I almost never feel like it's worthwhile to parry anything outside of a few bosses where it makes them so easy it's almost feels like cheesing them.

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>>171155618
>not ending with everyone crucified and singing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

>>171155618
I can't wait to see the big fat neckseam that new armor will have when you equip any other helmet with it!

>>171155415
>it's front feet transformed into a second set of wings

Everlasting Dragons have four wings plus four limbs. Watch the DS1 intro where Gwyn is hurling lightning bolts.

>>171155421
It makes no fucking sense that it isn't a faith weapon.

>>171155762

For STR builds a good value to stop at Dex with is 15 since it will allow you to use Gundyr's Halberd and the new Ringed Knight Straight Sword. The Splitleaf Greatsword has a 16 Dex requirement however which is the new highest of pure STR weapons so if you want to stop at that go ahead.

For build stats 60 STR (66 is kind of a meme), 39-44 Vigor, 40 Endurance and however much you want in Vitality depending on if you're going to be relying on poise or not.

Anyone else having trouble summoning or being summoned? I was duelling at Pontiff and noticed I can't summon anyone anymore. Can't invade or do anything either.

I didn't disconnect during any duels, never got any warnings, never hacked, Way of White circlet not usable, so I don't know what the hell is going on. Is it just From's servers being shitty?

>>171155879

not all dragons are everlasting dragons, I don't get how this is confusing for people

king of storms is a normal dragon, with its front feet turned into wings.

What are the best dex weapons in ds3?

What are the best katanas in ds3 besides dark drift

>>171156002
But what makes a dragon everlasting?

Kalmeet is called an everlasting dragon by Gough, yet you can kill him.

>>171155968

PvP is fucked at the moment it seems, I get constant 'Matchmaking failed' at arena and soapstones are getting instant summon failures. Other people I talked too have the same problem, just have to wait it out.

>>171156042

Chaos Blade, Sellsword Twinblades, Crow Quills and Sharp Exile Greatsword.

Washing Pole.

>>171156042
Uchi

>>171155684
Also looking at that shot of the inventory, we can see a few things. The character is only carrying equipment from DLC one, equipment from DLC 2, a refined longsword and a refined zweihander. By process of elimination, every icon there that isn't a DLC one weapon must be something DLC2 and we can see:

A black sickle-dagger to the left of the Aquamarine Dagger. Likely the Murkmen sickle, looks very similar to the Harpe.

RKSS between the longsword and Valorheart

Lothric Banner and Splitleaf GS next to one another after the Javelin

Oddly-shaped bone stick thing between Splitleaf and Friede's Scythe. Likely the halberd from the famitsu scans with the embedded remains of a "mad king"

And a new staff between the millwood greatbow and parting flame, likely the murkmen staff

>>171156102

kalameet isn't an everlasting dragon

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>>171156002
>king of storms is a normal dragon

We call that a "drake." Like, y'know, the drakes in their eponymous valley. The ones which the the Nameless King's Stormdrake obviously resembles.

>>171156110
Thanks for the info

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lmao

>>171155784
I try not to parry bosses but i like to parry in pvp occasionally when someone is being too predictable and i like parrying mobs and npcs

Parries in ds2 felt super clunky and weird especially with rapiers

>>171156202

are you retarded or just stupid?

king of storms is a dragon, with 4 legs and 2 wings, who's 2 front feet evolved into a set of wings. you know, like a fucking bird.

>>171156115
>>171156110
Is uchi really that good?

I remember chaos blade being amazing in the other games but i dont think I've seen it much in ds3

>>171156267
When he collapsed I thought he was gonna enter phase 2

>>171156345
Dragons have 4 legs AND a set of wing. Drakes/Wyverns have 2 legs and a set of leg/wings

>>171156408

Uchi is a slightly less damaging Chaos Blade with the same range, is buffable and without the self-damage gimmick. It gets most of its damage from 40/40 Refined compared to Chaos Blade getting mostly from pure Dex however.

>>171155618
I don't even care about the Dark Souls story honestly, just want it to end so From can make Bloodborne 2.

The first game was great but one of the weaknesses of Dark Souls 3 is that it feels like there's absolutely nothing in the world worth saving and it's like there's no real reason to do anything so you're just going through the motions to get through the game without much more of a goal.

In DeS you knew Boletaria was fucked but you could still save the world outside of the Nexus. In DaS1 the fire is fading but you can still save the day by linking the fire like a good goy. In Bloodborne idk you can kick the furries and ayy lmaos out of Yharnam or become a broccoli god.
In Dark Souls 3 the shit has hit the fan everywhere so hard so long ago that nothing really matters anymore and you're not really fighting to save anything.

>>171156002
They're drakes you dumb fuckwit. They're degenerate descendants of dragons that are explicitly named to be different in 1, and then as history marches on, actual dragons are forgotten, or referred to as "archdragons", because they've all but disappeared, and drakes are called dragons instead. Nameless King's shit even calls it a "stormdrake".

>>171156102
Because they were previously completely immortal and unchanging until Fire fucked the world and Seath stole their crystal. Nowadays they mutate to fit the environment they're exposed to. Kalameet fucked around near/in the abyss and thus has dark fire. Gough fucking him up with trivial ease was a little weird after he described how Anor Londo wouldn't even dare provoke him, but I guess you can write that down as the Abyss doing its thing.

>>171156481

yes, and the king of storms has 2 legs and FOUR WINGS because his front legs evolved into wings, like a fucking bird.

dragons do not just turn into drakes, drakes are lesser beings that came from humans.

>>171156571
That's why Dark Souls 3 is superior to Bloodborne anon. You are simply fighting because it is the right thing to do, no matter if the world is destoryed and there's nothing left but embers.

All the Lords of Cinders sacrificed themselves for the same reason. The dark will eventually overtake the flame, but some things are worth fighting for even if its hopeless.

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>>171156674

This anon's descent into full retardation has been highly amusing.

>>171156571

>Bloodborne 2

What the fuck would it even be about?

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>>171156481
Technically, the original form of the Everlasting Dragons (i.e. archdragons) have 4 legs and 4 wings (and 2 mouths). You can see it in the opening and their concept art.

>>171156571
>In Dark Souls 3 the shit has hit the fan everywhere so hard so long ago that nothing really matters anymore and you're not really fighting to save anything.
Also, every NPC you like commits suicide or dies in some way. They tried to be too grimderp

>>171156761
The only real reason to fight is to obtain leet gear to massacre other ashen ones with as an invader

>>171156674
>that came from humans

This sword, one of the rare dragon weapons,
is formed by a drake's tail. Drakes are
seen as undeveloped imitators of the dragons,
but in they are likely their distant kin.

This axe, one of the rare dragon weapons,
is formed by the tail of the Gaping Dragon,
a distant, deformed descendant of the
everlasting dragons.

tl;dr: shit descended from dragons in the same way shit descended from archtrees, because the world fucked up and stopped being formless nothing.

>>171156878
>(and 2 mouths)
W-where's the sec....?

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>>171156878

looks a lot like the abyss dragon

>>171156832

I'm sorry you're an idiot who doesn't know how to count limbs.

>>171156937
Nonsense. Irina can have a happy ending (were she becomes what she wanted) Siegward only kills himself because he fullfied his oath, and is overjoyed. Ludleth dies for a cause he believes in.

The end of fire is hopeful to...

>"The fire fades....but one day, tiny flame will dance across the darkness, like embers linked by lords past."

>>171156987

dark souls 2 and 3 have entire areas of the game dedicated to cults of people literally turning into drakes, you can't use that argument.

drakes = people

dragons are probably also people, given you can apparently have babies with them, but we haven't seen anything to prove that yet so it's just speculation.

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>>171157086
>still hung up on the number of limbs despite all the counterarguments leveled at your other points

By all means, stick to simple counting, anon. Your mind is clearly not fit for much else.

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>>171157060
You can clearly see a second, inner set of jaws, if you look closely. They have them in the opening too, like DeS. Even Seath has them.

>>171157154
>Siegward only kills himself because he fullfied his oath, and is overjoyed
>Implying he was so happy that he killed himself

>>171156571
Depending on where your allegiances lie, 3 is about saving the world from Kaathe.
We've all seen the Lord of Hollows ending, and we've all seen what it does to the First Flame and presumably the world at large. At least letting the Flame die back in Dark Souls 1 was a natural event, but it could be postponed with not many ill effects, but at this point the final death of the Age of Fire has become all but unavoidable. But just having everything die hasn't become the worst case scenario anymore, now it's about the disciples of Kaathe subverting the flame, shackling it to the Dark Soul, and having an age of calamity that continues perhaps indefinitely and literally damns all of creation outside of Londor.

>>171157086

The Nameless King, ally of the ancient dragons, fought beside the Stormdrake in countless battles. When the great beast fell, the king claimed his soul, as was the custom in the age of gods

The game explicitly calls it a drake. You're wrong. If you're going to insist on your bullshit headcanon, take it to youtube.

>>171157154

>Irina can have a happy ending (were she becomes what she wanted)

she wanted to die anon

>>171157230

says the guy who literally doesn't know the difference between a generic dragon and an everlasting dragon, and doesn't even know what a drake is in the lore.

drakes are literally people who've turned into dragon knock-offs, their arms becoming wings. they cannot having 2 sets of wings like that

>>171157086
Dragons are ancient, huge, wise and powerful beings.

Stormdrake is just some dude's flying horse.

>>171157359
Hate to play devil's advocate and keep this autistic argument going, but Seathe is referred to as "The Paledrake". It seems like Drake is just synonymous with Dragon, and if you want to differentiate the lesser breed from the ancient breed, call them Everlasting Dragons or Archdragons.

>>171157412
Wasn't Nameless completely heartbroken when the Stormdrake died?

>>171157229
>literally turning into drakes

You mean retarded fuckbaby dragonoids? The game calls the Hellkite and Gaping Dragon both distant relations of dragons, and the only evidence of people turning into drakes is your headcanon.

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>>171153532
done

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>armed with the knowledge that the doors will weigh 21.5 and require 45 Str, take off to MM to see what it takes to build purely to use the doors, just enough Int to use GMS, Att for FP and slots, and the rest into Fai for heals
>still wind up at a max of 29 Fai if you decide to equip Priestess Ring, which eats up the last utility ring slot

I'm starting to think that this isn't going to work, guys. Even if I strip down to cloth armor, the saved Vit going into Fai isn't all that much. The only other option I can see now is Prisoner's Chain.

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>>171157409
>drakes are literally people who've turned into dragon knock-offs

Like I said, you went full retard, mate, and further, failed to address counterarguments. See:

>>171156987
This sword, one of the rare dragon weapons,
is formed by a drake's tail. Drakes are
seen as undeveloped imitators of the dragons,
but in they are likely their distant kin.

It's okay, though. You're still improving your reading comprehension skills, and you still have several years before you enter the adult world. You've got plenty of time.

>>171157521

the problem is that 2-legged drakes are quite genuinely not dragons, which starts to create classification problems between the like 3 different groups, in cases such as this.

stormdrake is obviously a dragon shitheads, it's not meant to be obvious. so much time has gone by that the lizards have evolved into birds.

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>finally get FUGS and get it +5
>test damage on Alonne Knight
>takes 2 r1s
>mace+9 takes 2 r1s

FUCKING WHY!? I know strike damage is good, but still! I'd probably be better off using lighter weapons with better armor, but I want to use this stamina draining beauty.

I'm going to use it for at least a little bit, but Jesus that's just demoralizing. I only have that and a bow equipped because 20 VIT. I have over one million soul memory, so I might try to get the Royal Soldier's Ring+1 before finishing Tseldora.

Can someone drop me a Greatsword of Judgement they aren't using perhaps? I just started a new game and want to dedicate this build to it, but I've made so many new characters lately, I'm kinda dreading running to Irithyll just to get started.

On PS4, at the High Wall

>>171157521
If I'm not mistaken, Seathe is addressed as the Paledrake eons later, long after the history of Lordran is mostly forgotten and fallen into legend, by people who really have no strong authority on the proper classification of Everlasting Dragons. Namely Orbeck, who's an assassin posing as a scholar because he's too ashamed by the fact that he got duped at Vinheim.

Well, Orbeck, and item descriptions in Dark Souls 2, and let's be honest, that game is terrible when it comes to dragon lore. Just look at the mess that is the Ancient Dragon and the Dragon Memories, and the souls you can find therein.

>>171157765
Try the L2

>>171157545
>>171157663

you guys literally ignore entire regions of more than one game because of a single item description that doesn't even have faith in its own statement, while simultaneously referencing what you actively get to experience in both of the sequel games.

>>171157521
He's called the paledrake in a piece of lore that's written from the perspective of historical documentation that is utterly ancient, fragmentary, and often wildly misinterpreted. We all already know that Seath is a first generation pre-history Dragon, and that Lothric's knowledge of the Age of Ancients is sketchy.

Meanwhile, Stormdrake is written as a proper noun and is from the perspective of an omniscient third person narrator disclosing things that are otherwise not possible to know. There's a clear difference from in-universe recorded history and magical lore narrator facts.

>>171157805
Speaking of which, if the Dragon corpse (the Withering ruin) fought in the war with gywn, how the fuck did it get underground?

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>>171157878
Right then, applying your own retarded logic of counting the number of limbs and wings on things, tell me how many wings each of the dragon forms in the games has. Go on, I'll even wait for you to post screenshots.

>>171157887

>paledrake
>we know they're wrong because we know he's a real dragon, time is convoluted, etc.
>stormdrake
>well obviously these people know exactly what they're talking about

you are pulling so much fucking shit out of your ass it's unbelievable

>>171157976
DaS1's world was built on top of the canopy of archtrees extending from ash lake
In 2, that canopy has collapsed

>>171157878
>entire regions

Ash Lake lets you turn into a fuzzy malformed humanoid. Dragon Shrine has a bunch of humanoids wearing armor. Archdragon Peak has a cult of yet more humanoids sitting around naked and turning to stone. There's literally nothing that says people turn into drakes except "well you can find drakes in two of those areas, so they must be former humans!". It's the kind of ridiculous leap of logic in the face of already extant information that requires vastly less assumption and theorizing to be correct that youtube ecelebs are known for. The only shit that even hints at failed dragon transformations is a fucking serpent ring.

>>171157976
The Writhing Ruin is not that dragon. The Writhing Ruin is Seath's somehow transcendent soul, who possesses both the Duke, in order to dig down to the crystals, and later his pet in order to take over the area.

Tark is the direct result of an experiment by Seath in one of these forms, as he's kept Science Dragoning over the years

>>171155960
Don't the BK weapons require 18 Dex?

>>171157976
Technically you should be asking not how it got underground but rather how it got so close to the surface.

Dragon Memories seems to take place on top of the broken trunk of an archtree at the dawn of the Age of Fire, after all dragons are dead and reality is properly formed but before the world is rearranged and the lands properly built on top of Ash Lake.

>>171158117

how can it have collapsed if 2 takes place before 3, don't be retarded. the war against the dragons was fought in ash lake

>>171158156

well explain to me then why the two drakes in lothric contain the pus of man

Can anyone make out the requirements for the Fire Dragon Shield thing?

I've just discovered irithyll and greirat wants to go nigger it. Can I refuse him and send him later or does the option disappear forever?

>>171157765
charge the l2 into any basic enemy

if they aren't dead repeat as they get up

works on every basic enemy even npcs

>>171158198

Yes but none of them are STR weapons, all of them are noticeably better Quality.

>>171158083
Are you literally retarded?

We know Seath is not a drake because we literally met him. We saw him in the omniscient narrator opening video that flatly stated he was a dragon. Everyone who is actually physically while he is alive, including the dude who camps out in his archive and reads all his books two feet away from him, refers to him as a Dragon. Lore in the same game delineates him from drakes. The only thing that calls him a drake is fucking millennia later from a library where barely any ancient knowledge still exists, in a land that already calls wyverns/drakes dragons and arranges dragon hunts. Your inability to differentiate basic literary context is either overpowering autism, or else you're being willingly obtuse in the face of blatantly obvious fact because it contradicts your retarded headcanon.

>>171158425
What about the Greataxe and UGS?

what if sulyvahn is actually seath and he went crazy when he remembered who he was

>>171158414

just walk away

>>171158332
>explain to me then why the two drakes in lothric contain the pus of man

Because the shell the Pus inhabits doesn't have to even be alive for it to take control. We see the same thing with Gundyr.

>>171158528
He's not nearly competent enough to be Seath. If anything he's Pinwheel.

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>>171157860
I deleted a paragraph of me bitching because salt, but I have a question, as I do want to give this weapon a chance considering the pain and suffering I went through to get it.

I have 31 VIG, 15 END, and 20 VIT. Which do you recommend raising first. I'm thinking VIG, hence the 31. My END feels fine, and I'm not sure how big of an impact VIT would make and when to stop it because changing fashion is a nice breath of fresh air.

>>171158339
Looks like 17/6/11/12 or thereabouts.

>>171158507

Basic Greataxe works great heavy but Yhorm's is better so don't bother. No UGS is great heavy save FUGS and technically Lorian's based on the latter needing not much stat investment at all.

>>171158572
Yeah, but you can't buy anything from him then.

>>171156862
I mean Bloodborne 2 similar to how Bloodborne is Demon's Souls 2.

>>171156937
>>171157312

I don't think 3 suffers from bad writing or anything, I think that Dark Souls 3 is doing themes it logically should be doing but it just feels less and less relatable.

To illustrate a point, in Bloodborne the things going to the shitter are illustrated by NPC dialogue and world changes. In the beginning everyone is basically like lmao you stupid hunter fag, and they talk like they've seen it all a lot of times past. When you talk to people in their houses they don't really give a shit. Then when the night comes the people start to get a bit worried and ask for directions of shelter etc. There are some changes to spawns and the world. Some people are starting to act nervous or nutty and express doubt about if the night is going to pass quickly or not. Then the blood moon hits and people start going super nutty and either get turned to beasts or straight up die. There are more dangerous creatures roaming around. The way it's presented in the gameplay makes you feel like there are events with actual gravity happening in the game.

Contrast to DS3 where the eclipse happens and it changes literally noone and nobody even reats to it.

>>171158332
Explain to me how Artorias is oozing with oily black Abyss goo in Dark Souls 1, which puppets his body. Was he a human?

In case you're retarded, the answer is: because we all know the Abyss explicitly spreads and corrupts everything it touches. It's a tiny gap of interpretation to say "the abyss goo spread and corrupted something" and a massive leap to say "drakes were originally humans", but people in these fucking threads love taking the wildest and least probable direction on everything. Probably because they watched some youtube shill video and can't stand the idea of being wrong about the first teat they suckled on.

>>171158470

I'm saying that the fact that they literally don't know what a dragon is and are actively calling them (noun)drakes inherently weakens your argument because not only does it show that they have no idea what a drake or dragon is, but that they may have even flat out swapped the terms altogether in their writings, supported even further by the fact that in DaS2 the blood of sinh was considered drakeblood.

>>171156624
>Gough fucking him up with trivial ease was a little weird after he described how Anor Londo wouldn't even dare provoke him, but I guess you can write that down as the Abyss doing its thing.

I always assumed it was that Ornstein stopped dragonslaying after his lord, the firstborne, quit and allied himself with the dragons. Anor Londo was like "WHELP, NOT GONNA FUCK WITH ANYMORE DRAGONS THEN", it's not like they were really an issue anyway

>>171157785
Which weapon is that again? Like who do you get it from

>>171158807
Now that you mention, it would be nice if we got some more NPC dialogue referencing the urgency of the mission rather than just Emma going HOLY SHIT LOTHRIC IS THROWING A FIT CAN YOU FIX THAT FOR ME I'M KINDA BUSY BEING FUCKING DEAD.

Like maybe Ludleth urging you to push on, or the various vendors sharing their thoughts on the upcoming end of the world. Shame we get none of that.

>>171156862
idk man maybe cainhurst what would dark souls 2 even be about?

>>171159060
Pontiff

>>171158870
So you're actually agreeing with me then? I don't know if you even read what the original anon was on about, but he's a retard who insists that everything is a dragon but "some are not everlasting", when there is already a clear distinction of species in the first game that history obscures in the later games. The idea that "they're dragons but not everlasting ones!" is dumb and misinformed, based off of taking the second and third games' in-universe lore at face value, rather than looking at when the game takes you aside and says "I'm going to outright tell you something with #deeplore item descriptions" and engaging your brain. Even DaS2's deplorable lore bothered to make the distinction, with the Ancient Dragon, Shalquoirs dialogue on the subject, and the Petrified Egg, despite the people of Drangleic calling the big red drakes "dragons".

>>171158852
>Probably because they watched some youtube shill video and can't stand the idea of being wrong about the first teat they suckled on.

what state of mind do you have to be in to type this and go "okay let's hit submit"?

>>171159056
Gough felt attached to the fact that Kalameet even still existed, slaying the dragon would be trivial for him but he wasn't eager to go through with it because Kalameet's very existence made him nostalgic for the purpose he used to have in hunting dragons.

>>171159056
The idea that Anor Londo pussied out after Ornstein and Nameless bounced is too funny for me to not accept.

>>171159074
That wouldn't be in his character. Ludleth is probaly one of the few who lets you choose you're own path.

>>171159258
In the original game, Gaping Dragon is called a dragon too.

The game's terminology is not well defined.

The best way to look at it is that dragon is a loose term.

>>171158414
You can send as long as there's a boss alive i think

I think he only comes back after you kill a boss usually

>>171159363
The state of mind that thinks that people who swallow anything they read and then autistically defend it as gospel instead of learning anything is pure cancer and signals the death of discourse and understanding.

Also you're a faggot.

>>171159258

what? everlasting dragons are a very unique group of things, traditional dragons are descendants to them but very clearly lack the things that make an everlasting dragon an everlasting dragon. wyverns are not related to dragons at all, and frankly drake is a confusing term because it's been applied to anything that resembles a dragon.

>>171159441
Gaping Dragon is called a Dragon on the health bar, and then the lore from his tail tells you he's a "distant, deformed descendant of the dragons". Dark Souls 2 calls a drake "Guardian Dragon" on the health bar and then tells you it's a Drake and a distant descendant on the Drakewing Sword. It's perfectly consistent if you can differentiate between the two lines of narrative the game is telling you, i.e. what people think is the case in-universe and what is actually the case.

>>171159573
That's literally what I've been saying, Anon. I don't know where the train skipped tracks. "Traditional dragons" are only referred to as dragons due to historical misinterpretation. Anything related to a dragon is called a dragon by the people of Lothric, and what knowledge there is of the Everlasting Dragons calls them "Archdragons" because the terminology has faded with time.

>>171159932

the problem here is that I don't know if you think something like kalameet is an everlasting dragon, because realistically the only everlasting dragons seen in the game are seath, probably the stone dragon, and possibly the abyss dragon. then you have beings like kalameet, gaping dragon, sinh, etc. which are real dragons who descended from the everlasting dragons, but lack whatever the attributes that grant "everlasting" status.

>winged knight halberd on first winged knight

Does this trivialize shit like Raw ASS in early levels?

>>171160338
By that definition, every dragon lacks "everlasting" status after Seath fucked them all at the dawn of history. I'm using it to define dragons of the same generation as Seath. Gough remembers him from the war of the Age of Ancients, so it's all but explicit Kalameet is one. Gaping is explicitly a descendant, named in the axe, so he's not. Sinh is sort of weird and just up to whatever you think. Sleeping for the rise and fall of a civilization is strong evidence, but ultimately little in Shibuya's abortion of lore makes much sense, so I wouldn't particularly care if anyone decided Sinh was an, by DaS3 terms, "Archdragon" or a bastard baby.

>>171160338
>>171159932
Wait.

I'm pretty sure Sinh and Kalameet are real dragons.

>>171160583
Not really, you still need at least 18/16 to two-hand it. It's a fun weapon, but not a PvE-ender.

>>171161013
Yeah I think we might actually all be on the same page and talking past each other based on the originally obtuse and counter intuitive way it was put.

>Sir Yorgh and his powerful Drakeblood Knights eventually mounted a siege and invaded Shulva in order to defeat the dragon and steal its fresh blood, which they believed granted "a true understanding of life".

>Ariandel, being the restorer of the Painted World, knew that it was painted with blood, and only blood could protect the secret.

lord souls confirmed stolen from the dragons via killing them.

>By that definition, every dragon lacks "everlasting" status after Seath fucked them all at the dawn of history.

the problem with that is that kalameet has inherent physical attributes from the onset of disparity caused by fire, it's not a "gray" being like the ringed city knights or the actual everlasting dragons are. I'm of the opinion that "normal" dragons would come into existence after the introduction of disparity, which would allow beings like sinh and kalameet to take part in the dragon war.

In my definition, everlasting dragons are unique, eternal beings from some strange unknown time before fire, that did not pass on their unique attributes to dragons that they may have brought into being after the fire came about.

>>171161170
>>171161013

let me rewrite my original statement that sparked this autism:

the stormdrake is not a wyvern, it is a dragon, though maybe not of the variety that we are used to experiencing,.

So I'm doing that build that's suggested for mages. What's better? Uchigatana or Irithyl straight sword until I get my actual magics?

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>>171156267
>>171156413
You guys

Murakumo or Curved Carthus GS? They seem pretty much identical to me.

>>171161302
To be fair, nobody knows what the fuck a wyvern is supposed to be and the terminology came out of nowhere for no reason in the first place.

The stormdrake is certainly what Drangleic and Lothric go by as "dragon", at least.

>>171161182
That comes down to whether you believe that disparity created a new generation of dragons, or whether it altered the existing ones. I'm of the latter camp for the fact that Miyazaki said the Gaping Dragon was distorted by its own hunger, and Kalameet took on traits of the Abyss, whereas only the baby in Ash Lake resembles the originals, but it's a sufficiently non-explicit point that I wouldn't assrage at someone believing the contrary.

>>171161632
Raw Ass

>>171161658
Depends. Kumo is better on a quality build, but CCGS gets monstrous amounts of bleed buildup on a Hollow build.

>want to do an int/faith build for a single player run
>using pyromancies and hexes, probably
>realize that between those two stats, the attunement needed, and basic vigor and endurance, my choices for weapons are basically the onyx greatsword and that's it.

Does chaos or dark infusion make anything good?

>>171155449
Splitleaf Greatsword is literally Gundyr's Halberd with a different WA.

>>171162161
Use a rapier with buff or infusion?

>>171162193
>Splitleaf Greatsword is literally Gundyr's Halberd

give me some sauce garcon

what are the good pyromancies in DaS3? I hear a lot about chaos bed vestiges and black flame with parting glove but that leaves me with 3 more attunement slots

>>171163096
Black Serpent, Fire Surge, and maybe Sacred Flame for the memes.

>>171163096
PvE: Sacred Flame, Profaned Flame
PvP: Fire Surge

>>171162765
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/equipmentgroup:gundyr-s-halberd

>Gundyr's:
>C/E scaling with 30/15 requirement and 13 weight

>Splitleaf:
>C/E scaling with 26/16 requirement and 13.5 weight

>>171163096
Black Serpent is actual garbage in PvP against someone who knows what they're doing, but will destroy inexperienced scrubs when used in any kind of mixup.

>>171163278
yeah but it could have a special move set
i think it will probably have a gs or ugs moveset

From the discussion here i think we can all agree on.

>Dragons
All reptiles with wings
>Everlasting Dragon
Gray beings that only existed before the age of fire and coming of disparity

>Archdragons
Quadruped dragon with 2 to 4 wings distorted by the age of fire in some form, could be direct descendants of the everlasting dragons or not, not clear (kalameet and abyss, sinh and poison, gaping and greed/hunger, abyss dragon and abyss again)

>Drakes
Biped dragons with 2 to 4 set of wings, distant descendants of the everlasting dragons.

>>171163278
Hold on there, anon. If I'm remembering correctly, that was splitleaf's scaling at +0.

>>171161814
wat

>>171163838
I'd hold off on clearly defining Archdragon until the DLC is out, since it supposedly features one as an NPC.

>>171163847
Yes. That's also Gundyr's scaling at +0. So it's reasonable to assume that both will scale similarly (though I would be unsurprised if they didn't).

Is SL165 OK for a NG+7/Calamiy Ring run+both DLCs?

>>171164051
Astora Straight Sword, infused Raw.

>>171164132
Yes, but that sounds like it would be really frustrating and not something I would personally ever bother with.

>>171164190
What about for just a standard NG+7?

>>171162765

Splitleaf Greatsword

Base PHY: 132 - 264
SAT Curve: 0; 0.75
COE (STR/DEX) 0.93/0.14

Halberd: VALUE
264 + 213 = 477 AR

0.71 = 0.94 * 0.75
0.1 = 0.14 * 0.75
213 = 264 * 0.81

>>171164147
Raw ASS

>>171163838
I really don't think the lore makes any kind of distinction between archdragon and everlasting dragon, much like it doesn't seem to distinguish between drake and wyvern. The only consistent distinction is that drakes are shitty, underdeveloped dragons.

As to the incredibly retarded discussion above, I do have something to add: the stone dragon of ash lake and the black dragon Kalameet were supposed to be the last survivors of Gwyn's war of extinction, with Kalameet being the last known survivor and Stone being hidden. And yet, we find more dragons in later games. This normally wouldn't be possible, except we know from DaS1 that humans can turn into dragons. So, assuming dragons don't reproduce via mitosis or some other bullshit, all the dragons after DaS1 were probably human. We also get confirmation in DaS3 that there was at least one human who turned into a complete dragon, and that the mirage produced by twinkling dragon stones is of that dragon. This would also suggest that there are multiple tiers of dragon completeness, which gives a new meaning to things like "underdeveloped" or "imperfect" dragons.

>>171163278
>>171163415

I really hope Splitleaf will have Greatsword 1HR1s and Halberd 2HR2s since it says it's a 'greatsword' despite the classification. It would fit since it looks and is described similarly to a Guandao.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guandao

>Forms utilizing the weapon in nearly all traditional styles of Chinese martial arts, emphasize strong slashing movements and momentum to keep the heavy blade moving through a series of spinning cuts.

Anyone on PS4 interested in duping souls of a great champion? I'm going to need a lot of levels for my DLC run on NG+++.

>>171164361
You literally find a dragon egg in DS2. It's canon that they reproduce.

>>171155415

King of Storms is a fucking stormdrake, a hyper evolved Wyvern. Similar to how dinosaurs eventually evolved feathers, it's a wyvern that evolved them.

>>171164550
If you pop them all in quick succession online, you WILL get flagged.

>>171164558
Or at the very least the earth spawns new ones or something.

>>171156102

Kalameet was called an ancient dragon, not everlasting...

>>171156002

King of storms is just a drake like all the other 2 legged 2 winged types.

>>171156674

Where the hell do you count 4 wings on King of Storms?

Anyone on PS4 wanna help me kick Havels stupid rock ass? Password is rock.

>>171164361
>except we know from DaS1 that humans can turn into dragons
If you think "path of the dragon" is evidence to that, i will have to disagree, dragon form doesnt look at all like a dragon. You best evidence for that theory is Oceiros.

>>171164558
Not to mention Pricila and Yorshka and "somewhat" Ocelote

>>171164818
Not the same guy, but I recall some text somewhere stating it was possible, but some shit about "there can only be one". There's also some rumoured stuff about Ringed City containing a dude who actually succeeded, based on some "leaked" concept art, but I'd take that with a grain of salt.

Am I just bad or is DS3 a million times harder than DS1 and DS2?

This first level is so fucking long, it's kicking my ass.

>>171165101
I think it's harder too, but many people don't. That said, the first level is not terribly long though.

>>171165101
It's Bloodborne, so you'll basically have to re-learn the game.

Mash out of anything that so much as tickles you, never get aggressive with fast enemies, get used to spamming cheap and effective rolls and chugging incredibly fast and safe heals, and don't worry about how much damage you're taking since the game is balanced around health total and not armor.

Also you're probably missing both shortcuts on Lothric High Wall.

>>171165235
I haven't found any shortcuts or bonfires yet. Just a bunch of locked doors and "does not open from this side".

Is there any reason not to use every kind of magic if you're already leveling both INT and FTH to be a pyromancer?

>>171165357
How can you have not found a bonfire? There's one literally right outside the room you warp to from Firelink Shrine. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you actually playing DS3?

WHAT HELMETS GO GOOD WITH THE FARAAM CHEST
I LOVE IT BUT I HAE IT AAAhh

>>171165459
I meant besides that one, obviously.

>>171165470
Unironically Artorias' helm

It looks weird but I like it

Can you still do the thing where you spam caestus parry as someone r1 spams you with a straight sword, and you always parry them if they go for a third hit?

>>171165531
Do you not have Tower on the Wall bonfire

Did you not unlock the Mimic shortcut

Did you not skip that whole blacksmith room with the anvil with the ladder

Did you not use the elevator

Are you actually dumb

>>171165531
There are two routes from that starting bonfire, that go in opposite directions. One is a dead end for now. The other will loop back around and then open a shortcut to the dead end, allowing you to skip a huge part of the level, and another will let you take the elevator that practically skips right to the boss. The only locked doors are in the basement, that lead to a merchant and a covenant thing. The former you can get the key from in the same level, and you absolutely should. The latter is optional.

Overall, it's not actually as big as you think, and mostly feels sprawling by dint of actually good level design. Most of the ways through it are fairly connected, and just require being attentive.

>>171164132
Why not just stay at a meta level? Whats the point of doing harder NGs for a challenge if you are just going to keep leveling up to make it easier

>>171165702
>haha you're so dumb you haven't unlocked every shortcut on your literal first time experiencing the level and haven't even completed it rofl

Zeldafag here. What are the similarities between both franchises, considering I love the zelda type o' games? Which one should I start with?

>>171164813
Ok let me find my ds1 disc

>>171165851
I'm already 165, I just wanted to know if staying on this characer would be fine or if I should make a new one for a lower level

So how does one pronounce "Smough"? I see a lot of people on Youtube pronounce it as "Smoe", but it's mostly spelled the same way as "Gough", and he pronounces his name as "Goff", so wouldn't that make Smough "Smoff?"

>>171165101
I actually died a lot in ds3 in the beginning and i was playing ds2 a lot right before.

I think its because you have to get used to the speed and spam of attacks from lothric knights and they deal a lot of damage to low level players.

Once you get used to mashing r1s you start to do a lot better

>>171166049
Smaug

Why the fuck is everyone in the undead arena a different color? and what's the fucking deal with the crowns? whenever i spawn i have one and my enemies each have one. it makes it fucking hard to tell who is who

>>171166049
Smough is a pun based on the word 'sumo'

Because japs

>>171165884
You start with the first one and go forward from there.

They're only similar in that you explore dungeons and use your weapon and shield to kill things in your way. Dark Souls is more about managing your resources, exploring carefully, never taking major risks, and most of all learning from your mistakes. Once you get into it you'll learn that it's not so much "hard" as it is "git gud and be careful," deaths are used just as much as a learning tool as they are to punish you for being stupid.

>>171165884

You use weapons and wear clothing. There's a sky. Some trees. The world has color in it. The main character has eyes. You have health that depletes. There's NPCs. Fighting bosses is in both. Both games have title screens. Saving people really stands out as a similarity. Also collecting items. A controller is recommended. There's a story. They're developed by a developer and published by a publisher. You kill stuff.

>Which one should I start with?

>>/v/

>>171165881
High Wall is literally "Two paths; one is a quick dead end and one brings you further" until the end when you have a whopping 3 options: Shortcut, Vordt, Emma, and after Vordt you need Emma anyway

>>171166238

>about managing your resources, exploring carefully, never taking major risks, and most of all learning from your mistakes. Once you get into it you'll learn that it's not so much "hard" as it is "git gud and be careful," deaths are used just as much as a learning tool as they are to punish you for being stupid.

Congratulations you described practically every game under the sun.

>>171166019
NG+7 should make it more than fair game for 165. Your stats are all softcapping on NG+ anyways.

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Post fashion, rate my ladyk***ht.

It shames me to say I'm wearing 2 pieces of the same set. Literally every other set of plate gloves i have exposes her forearms, and that's simply unacceptable.

>>171165357
This honestly triggered the shit out of me on my first playthrough, especially since I tried getting to greatwood from the opposite side.

I think sometimes they do it for no fucking reason, like the door leading to the bonfire below the pyromancer fag doesn't open from the other side either despite linking to the literal first bonfire of the level.

>>171166879
>ladyk***ht

why did you post a trollopk***ht

>>171166879
Why would wearing multiple pieces of the same set be a bad thing? Is this some sort of fashion special snowflake thing?

>>171166879
The one piece per set "rule" is silly and needlessly complicates things.

>>171167027
She's based on a DnD character who was a prostitute and a paladin of a goddess of love.

Welcome to my magical realm.

>>171167048
>>171167065
Because memes.

>>171167095
>She's based on a DnD character who was a prostitute and a paladin of a goddess of love.

sounds like cuck to me :(

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>>171166879
Nothing wrong with 2 pieces of the same armor, as long as it's not the head and the chestpiece. Then it looks too much like the original set.
R8 my lads and lasses.

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>>171166879
Silver knight gauntlets are right there, dumdum

>>171167419
I don't have them yet. guess it's time to farm.

>>171167336
the pyromancer and the sith knight look dank af m8

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>>171167336
What robe do you use for your mozgus?

Just made a new DAS2 character, what's a good pvp build?

>>171167336
That thief/archer reminds me of Garrett, which is a very good thing.

>>171167492
Looks like sorcerer chest.

>>171164550
Just grind like the rest of us autists.

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>>171166879
shouldnt mirrah chain work?
also ugly red buff

>>171167586
Hex or rob Flynn

>>171167708
Yeah, I forgot to take off my sword ring. No chain gloves for this girl because I don't really care all that much about this character, so she offed Sirris prematurely to get her armor.

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>>171166879
r8

>>171167336
Top row: Good, Michael Stivic/10, Great, Berserk reference/10, Good

Bottom Row: Good, I don't understand, Good, Reminds me of that one fag who always posts his cross-eyed waifu in that exact same get up, I don't like it

>>171164361
what about the gaping dragon

>>171167818
Mother superior on the bottom left is kinda neat.

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>>171167818
>Sunless anything on a male character

RKSS effectively becomes an UGS with it's L2

Holy fuck

Are there any weapons that both look good and double as chimes/talismans like in DS2?

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>low-mid level invasions
>50% solohost 50% gank
>high level invasions
>100% gank

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>>171168014
Don't make fun of him, he's on the cutting edge of mage fashion

>>171164558
I didn't say dragons don't reproduce. I said there's one fucking dragon left in the world, so who's it going to make an egg with?

Besides, even if that self-described lifeless egg even could hatch, it's only confirmed use is to begin your character's slow transformation into a dragon.

>>171164818
>You best evidence for that theory is Oceiros
It is literally stated in the twinking dragon head stone, idiot.

>The illusion achieved was the first case of a human imitating the form of an ancient dragon, and it revealed the smallness of human existence. The road to the old dragons is long and arduous, and only one can complete the journey.

Humans turn into dragons. End of discussion.

>>171168130
lategame pyromancies on a twink build

big weapons and lategame rings on twink build

skillz

really your orptions are pretty limited

>>171167492

Heh, that looks good, anon.

Did Mozgus wield a weapon in the Manga? Or just beating everyone up with his book?

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>>171168087
anyone?

>>171167492
Reduce the width of his chest to get rid of that unsightly poof top. Deacon robes needs a fat ass and skinny ribcage to pull off the look right.

>>171168720

Muh Flail looks cool

>>171168087
>>171168720
There are no good looking weapon catalysts in DS3. The days of blue flame and sanctum shield are over.

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>>171166879
all 4, R8

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Why aren't you using the FUGS, /dsg/?

>>171168838
Looking for something for my Drakeblood GS/DMB knight, and the flail doesn't really fit.
>>171168870
I miss the mace as well. Why can't we have nice things?

>>171168873
everything except bottom right looks good. Bottom right just looks like shit slapped together, unless I'm missing a reference or something

anyone know when the next patch is?

>>171169025
>Looking for something for my Drakeblood GS/DMB knight, and the flail doesn't really fit.

Other than the the Ritual Spear that uses Faith for Sorcery, I can't recall there being any other.

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How should I spruce up my knight?
He's SL70, using Zwei/Executioner's/Javelin

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What are some quality or Dex weapons that would fit a Paladin build? So far I've upgraded:
>Lothric Knight Sword
>Claymore
>Astora GS
>RHH
>Lothric Longspear
What else should I grab?

>>171169357
>use two pieces of the Knight set
>great set
>ruin it by adding those fucking ugly gloves
>use nameless knight leggings
>beautiful leggings, lovely leggings, great set
>doesn't fucking match

>>171169484
Astora Sword or Ricard's Rapier as a smaller sidesword might be neat.

>>171169489
Working on a budget, at 56 right now and those give me the best poise/defense ratio

>>171169150

March 24th for a balance patch, March 27th for DLC content patch.

>>171169754
>phyiscal defense
>mattering in 3

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Any recommendations on a weapon for a Faith/Dex? I absolutely abhor the ASS but have heard good things about the Lothric Straight Sword -- however, I am not sure if I want to fo any straight sword run. I liked the Dragonslayer Spear but is there anything else that you guys think is cool?

>>171168937
You probably had to strap havels ring on that build, don't you? That's the answer.
Actually, I just love bkgs moveset, that's why. Astora ugs is buffable, has better scaling, lighter and has neat wa for rollcatch, that completely outclasses fugs on qualty builds for me.

DAS2, made a character named Witchfinder cause I'm sick of these faggot spellcasters, what's a good hexer build for fucking up other magic users, I want to be an "anti mage" of sorts.

>>171170132
Ricards rapier is a good choice, DMB/LB makes the weapon art insane.

>>171170132
use gayboy Lothric Holy Sword

>>171170132
Ricard's Rapier, Sellsword Twinblades, and Crow Quills.

>>171170217
That weapon is mega trash

>>171170263
"no"

>>171170204
Not anymore, tested it on 40 dex/30 fai
Inferior to crow quills l2's, also it's telegraphed as hell.

>>171166879
nice seibah cosplay, nerd

>>171170157
please help I have no idea how this game works outside of strength

>>171170407
>30 fai
Just use resins at that point.

>>171170157
1. Get 30 fai
2. Get WoS
You're an antimage now.

>>171170537
mages natrually have high mag resist, the best way is to go physical.
avelyn+fast up close like a longsword

>>171170421
I actually invaded someone cosplaying her the other day. They were using Darkdrift, from which nothing can defend. They beat me too.

>>171170157
>sick of spellcasters
>wants to be a spellcaster himself
t. Havel

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>>171170150
I am using Havel's ring but that could be solved by only using one FUGS.

>>171169928
if thats the case it may prerelease again on the 24th

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


I FUCKING CALLED IT. THEY REALLY DID INTRODUCE MY STRENGTH STRAIGHT SWORD. MUH UNIQUE DAS2 ANIMATIONS INCLUDED

>>171170842
The DLC isn't patched in until the 27th. THey fucking learned
>>171170868
what are you on about boi

>>171170868

>what was Heavy Dark Sword/Broadsword

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>>171170132
>>171170204
>>171170246
Is Lightning infusion good for any of these or any other weapon?

>>171170652
Sad. Going from 30 to 50 fai is not a minor adjustment

>>171170938
>>171170895
451 + 20 fire AR 66/15 2h

horizontal 2hR1s, thrusting 2HR2
broadsword 1h moveset

>>171170983
Only with 60 fai/lightning clutch, and only then as a backup or if you want to save an attunement slot.
Buff ads more damage than infusion can, sadly. Only useful on Lothric Knight GS.

Is it just me, or does Heysel hit a fuckton harder in NG+? She was dealing a lot of chip damage through my Golden Wing Crest Shield with Farron Dart alone, more chip damage than Kreimhild did with Soul Spear.

I don't even want to think about what summon Hodrick can do, even though I've seen the WebMs.

Does anyone want to help me get to/kill Oceiros on PS4?

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>>171170895
good shit anon

>>171154974
Just killed him last night first time, took 5 tries. I expected him to bust my balls longer. Claymore Leo counters are SEX

>buff javelin
>throw it
>it doesn't deal buffed damage

>>171168662
No weapon and he only beat one guy with the book iirc. His lackeys would do the most fighting for him
>put femozgus in the game
>complete with skull crushing book
>cant get it
Come on memezaki

>people unironically believe trc was going to be shit

i knew it all along. i knew it first.

>>171170984
Indeed. And you need to go 60

>>171171904
>they don't drop a book catalyst
biggest disappointment of the game right there

It probably won't happen, but it sure would be awesome if TRC really went hard on adding new armor sets, like at least 8 or even more than that.

>>171172059
you'll like the new dlc anon

>>171172359
;)

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>>171172374
>;)
Fuck you Bamco community manager

>>171172465
i get the feeling you're going to love having one of your favorite gestures back

>>171154504
Should I go greataxe or try out the follower javelin?

Is greatmace good yet?

>>171172541
Those are pretty radically different weapons. I recommend the great machete.

>>171172541
the javelin is so much fun

>>171172541
>>171172583
Wait until the DLC drops, there's something in it you'll love.

;)

Two questions concerning my faith build. Is Yorksha's chime the best miracle catalyst to use? Does Wolnir's Sword do adequate damage in comparison to other greatswords.

>>171172518
i'd really love to get blown by crossBREED priscilla is that in the new dlc

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>>171171280
Anyone?

>>171172649
Yorshka's is the best chime at like 60+ faith, but only for stuff like buffing/general purpose miracle use. If you want to cast offensive miracles you really should use a talisman, particularly the canvas or maybe saint's because they have a poisecast option.

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>>171172768
Saint gets the most scaling but also adds the least poise to the poisecasting. Personally I think the canvas is better because of it's massive poiseboost

>>171172965
I had no idea the poisecast varied from talisman to talisman

>>171172649
see:>>171172768
>>171172965
Wolnirs is pretty fast and strong in the right hands. WA is kinda shit though

>>171173004
yep. Saint gives next to nothing, sunlight makes you a fucking wall.

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>>171173004
Well Sunlight has the strongest poise cast and saints the weakest. Canvas is up there right before sunlight. I only ever used these three regularly so kinda speaking from experience

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That Lighting Arrow miracle from the looks pretty sweet. Fires fast, quick projectile and tracking and walking during cast. Nice addition to my miracle caster who may or may not be jesus
>inb4 Throwing a heal is better

>>171173814
From the stream of the dlc I mean of course

>>171173814
>Jesus
>dealing any damage outside of using a whip and angelic miracles

>>171173814
Any more fanart of witch girl?

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>>171173953

>>171173932
Good point but I also really like to think that everyone I spear with my massive lightning is in fact a demon that needs to be banished. And I do use that one bleed whip offhand btw.

>>171173953
>doesn't even use her name

>>171173998
>>171173814
>Scas

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>>171174074
Scas draws nice lewds

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is faith good in the dark souls deuce

>>171174192
was, before they nerfed the fuck out of Great Lightning Spear.
>>171174115
>>171173998
thanks!

>>171174042
Jesus defeated the demon by ignoring him. I'm pretty sure the only violence he used was the whip. Thunder is Greek mythology rather than Christian
>>171174192
Sure, if you don't care about online and are willing to be massively overleveled to do what other builds do or able to play unpatched

I'm going to be pissed if the banner buff effect is red on release and not the fiery gold of sacred oath or its own special effect.

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>>171174437
Maybe I should have just named him Zeus then. Oh well time for another character.
If only there was more then one divine looking miracle.

>>171174490
Is it the wa or what? I remember in the first vid it was shown being used onehanded with a non wa shield offhand.

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>>171174115
Scas draws KFC and repaints it to have a human's skin tone, that's also why all the females he draws have these broken fucking ankles and are so casual about it

>>171167095
>prostitute
>love

you fucked up

>>171174608
Thicc chicken drumsticks are kind of sexy.

>>171174660
Never heard of Dibella or Aphrodite? There are many loves.
>>171174578
Also, I'm pretty sure divinity is more connected to "holy fire" in judeochristislamic religions

I fell asleep during the stream yesterday, do we have any more info on the dragon shields and what they do in regards to dragonform?

I saw that we're getting even more strength weapons which makes me happy.

also did they show the desert slut or earthen peak?

>>171174871
>Never heard of Dibella or Aphrodite? There are many loves.
>missing the point

Prostitution is a loveless affair anon regardless of what your special lady tells you when you visit.

>>171175039
Only if you want it to be shallow and loveless, a quickie to blow your load. I recommend googling a bit

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>>171174943
Smol dragon shield has fire spewing out of it like the knight does, no info for dragon form.
They did not show it

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>>171175164
>anon thinks anything he gets from a prostitute is genuine
>he doesn't realize that higher tiers are just better actors

lmao love can not be bought

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>>171175164
sure anon

>>171175731
I don't go to prostitutes, you moron. Prostitution is not a modern concept and dark souls is not set in a modern world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite
Aphrodite(i/æfrəˈdaJti/af-rə-dy-tee;Greek:Αφροδίτη(Afrodíti)) is theGreekgoddessof love,beauty,pleasure, andprocreation.

Her festival,Aphrodisia, was celebrated across Greece, but particularly inAthensand Corinth. At the temple of Aphrodite on the summit ofAcrocorinth(before the Roman destruction of the city in 146 BC), intercourse with her priestesses was considered a method of worshiping Aphrodite. This temple was not rebuilt when the city was re-established under Roman rule in 44 BC, but the fertility rituals likely continued in the main city near the agora. Aphrodite was associated with, and often depicted with, the sea, dolphins, doves, swans,pomegranates, sceptres, apples,myrtle, rose trees,limetrees, clams, scallop shells, and pearls. One aspect of thecultof Aphrodite and her precedents thatThomas Bulfinch's much-reprintedThe Age of Fable; or Stories of Gods and Heroes(1855 etc.) elided was the practice ofritual prostitutionin her shrines and temples. The euphemism in Greek is hierodoule, "sacred slave."


Éros(ἔρωςérōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion."[6]The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love."Platorefined his own definition: Althougherosis initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself.

>>171175169
i'd love a hairjob.

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>>171175845
>I-I'm not talking about prostitutes!
>here let me copypaste something that isn't prostitution
>but I'm still gonna call it a prostitute for love

anon...

>>171175845
You see that blue text where "ritual prostitution" is? Try clicking it. You can also as a side, bonus tip, look up the definition of true prostitution,

>>171175845
Prostitution isn't a new concept but this isn't prostitution. She's having sex for muh fertility god, not because she's just getting some dough for a throw.

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>>171176028
It's literally their job to give sexual acts. I mean hell if you say you're hard to pleasure they'll take it as a challange. They just work for the act anything else is them being actors for a fantasy you like

>>171176221
see
>>171176220
>>171176049

Can I get a faith build with Vow of Silence to help me out with Aldrich? I always struggle against this fucker unless I'm a mage.

SL58, +6 Weapon, PC

>>171176028
>stutterposting
>discrediting your own post
>>171176049
>>171176220
Did you guys read the reply chain?

>>171176259
>I always struggle against this fucker unless I'm a mage.

I think you mean pyromancer

Aldrich has high as fuck resistance to sorcery damage

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>>171176221
>It's literally their job to give sexual acts.
Yes, a slut's is that because she enjoys it.
A streetwalker's is that because she wants cash.
A fertility priest's is that because she's appeasing the gods and celebrating them to keep relations tight.

>I mean hell if you say you're hard to pleasure they'll take it as a challenge
Where does fantasy blur into reality with you?

>>171176321
I killed him just fine with my faith build too because of vow of silence.

Why hasn't FS toned this boss down yet? He keeps spamming the homing arrow attack.

>>171176370
>Why hasn't FS toned this boss down yet?

git gud and do what you do against every other big boss:

hug his ass and slap him around until he dies, the only thing aldrich does different is using a super telegraphed attack to teleport away where he does aoe damage.

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>>171176303
>Did you guys read the reply chain?
You mean the reply chain in which

>DnD neckbeard autist claims his character is a "prostitute paladin of love", then goes on to defend the claim against prostitution by talking about a practice that is already being considered for renaming due to its lack of relation to actual prostitution

So I was never clear on this. Was Sillyman a Pontiff of the Deep church before he went and saw the Profaned Flame? Or did seeing the Profaned Flame make him come back and fuck up the chuch into Deep worship? And was Aldrich around before or after him?

From what I gathered, the church was a Way of White one built to guard the Deep and had a bunch of shit written in to resist the madness, but then Sillyman, the Pontiff at the time, fucked off, saw the Profaned Flame, came back, and got everyone to be batshit insane like he is, let Aldrich out of his box, and then went off with him to take over Irithyll.. The faggot fire snipers have sets that say they were holy knights but were changed by the Profane Flame.

>>171176556
>the Pontiff at the time

girlyman is a selfproclaimed pontiff, he was never actually pope

>>171176482
I'm not the guy rping as a prostitute. I didn't notice him saying anything about payment. I was correcting anon based on my knowledge of greek mythology. There was also actual prostitution at the time.

>>171176651
you're either lying about not being him, or you're an idiot for trying to defend a neckbeards magical realm.

>>171176707
I'm not defending him, I don't give a shit about him. I do give a shit however about Greek mythology, loved it since before I could read

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>>171176789
>>171176651
>DID YOU READ THE REPLY CHAIN?
>actual reply chain is completely irrelevant to what you're talking about
No one is denying prostitutes are a new concept, see Mary fucking Magdalene. But "prostitution" and "religious sex rituals" are two different ballparks you mouth breather.

So in vaati's notes he says we find some sort of loincloth that looks like gaels, isn't that basically slave knights leggings? or does his look different? asking for a friend

If anyone has any CE screenshots would appreciate that too

>>171176605
Oh, so he declared himself Pontiff after he went batshit then.

Other than that, is that all accurate?

>New spells in the DLC
>3 new sorceries
>5 new pyromancies
>2 new miracles

I wish Miyazaki didn't suck pyromancy's cock so much