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/ndg/ Nier/Drakengard General #4

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Route D Edition: HIDDEN GOO[D]S

>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

>What is /ndg/?
A place to talk about Nier, Drakengard and Taros games

>Official Nier:Automata page
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>Important information
http://nier.wikia.com/wiki/NIER_Wiki

>What Happened before Nier: Automata began
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/03/10/heres-what-happened-before-nier-automatas-story-began/

>Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia [Untranslated]
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>Drakengard/Nier Collection Archive
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

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>>171153726
The '57 Bel Air is the official Yoko Taro car
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>>171153857
>>171153849
OTP!
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>>171153849
>>171153857
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>>171153849
>she's in her work leotard and thighhighs
>he's in comfy casual clothes
This image really grinds my gears. They went in too hard on the lewds.
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>>171153880
Then why isn't he sticking his head out the window
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>>171150915
I chose a bad time to see if I could talk to them...
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>>171154052
>he's in comfy casual clothes
Those look like his usual shorts, and I don't think we ever get to see what he's wearing under his coat anyway.
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>>171154052
Ring's artwork is sometimes lewd.
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>>171152485
Wasn't a huge fan of the Nier DLC's combat challenges, but the blunt/ominous acknowledgment to the story's connection to Drakengard was appreciated.
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Can we discuss the "Beepy created the machine network" theory?

Because it doesn't really make sense when you put it under a lens. The machine lifeforms were created by the aliens, the network itself being a way to coordinate the entire machine force as one single entity. Beepy and his followers were not a part of the machine forces created by the aliens. The network became too intelligent and overthrew its creators. Then N2, the embodiment of the collective, formed from taking in the Project Gestalt data including the data of the original Gestalt, began to make some machines break off from the network in order to facilitate evolution amongst both itself and the androids.
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>>171154058
When you are the car, there's no need to
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>>171154142
Talk to which brothers?
Where can you talk to them?
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>>171154329
Lewd is good, but it clashes with the cute in that first image. It's jarringly lewd instead of lewd but cute.
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>>171154604
You can't.

In Route C the machines with the buckets beg A2 not to kill their brother after his boss fight, and I walked towards them, thinking I could speak to them, which prompted her to kill them all.
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>2A cuts her hair

How do I fix this tell me now
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>>171154773
Machines with the buckets? When was this part?

>>171154801
Grow a loveboner for short hair you get ending C or D and you'll get a wig to give her long hair
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>>171154142
Did A2's hair grow or was it always that length? Can androids even grow hair? Do they have any hair down there? I'm asking for a friend.
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>>171154801
Also, it didn't give me her weapons. How do I get her large sword?
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>>171154889
>When was this part?
Nearing Ending C? With A2 in the tower?
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>starting route C

He went too far this time. Give me back my 2B.
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Hang on what was the deal with the aliens?

I know they're in-game all dead and wiped out by Adam and Eve but this whole plot point gets kinda overshadowed after the reveal that the whole story is basically back to revolving around Project Gestalt
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>>171154915
I assumed that she originally looked more like 2B but it grew after the years she spent on her own.

How/Why synthetically growing hair on androids is a thing is anyone's guess.
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>>171154962
Is that the boss with the weird wings?
I killed that thing so fast that I barely had time to watch the cutscene.
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>>171154402
>Do not bring back the future. DO NOT BRING IT BACK
WAIT
HOLY SHIT

Is this referencing the Cathedral City being warped into Spain in the year 856????
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Daily thread reminder!
2B and 9S are both 5'2. Heels on 2B make her 5'5.
She is 330 pounds and he is 286 pounds.
They're small and qt, but weigh a lot.
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>>171154889
>Machines with the buckets? When was this part?
They show up at the beginning of Route B and C's intro cinematic.
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>>171155045

>spoiler

It really isn't, though. Nothing of N2's motivations are related to Project Gestalt. Just because there are some visual motifs that recur in Automata is a really poor reason to claim that the game is about an entirely unrelated plotline. N2 itself is only similar to things like the Watchers in entirely superficial ways, and despite being based on the original Gestalt's data N2 literally could not be more different from the Shadowlord.
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>>171155045
Some people have theorized that the aliens were another tool of the Watchers, because they were described as "plant-like" and Drakengard 3's world was almost destroyed by a flower.

But I imagine that they're mainly a red herring for the real conflict, the evolution of machines, and their parallels with humanity.
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>>171154451
He created the machine network as we know it. The "ghost of humanity," the individuals part of a larger mind, all things that are identical in Automata that are brought up in Fire of Prometheus, is something that he put there, and the volcano god picture book is alluding to this. There was something there beforehand since machines came after and attacked him and there was fighting going on already when he got to the surface. He then spreads out over those machines and others with his bugs, or appendages, whatever it was. This evolution is what allowed for the machines to kill their masters, and why machines that are on the network still can express human features while not developing as rapidly as the ones that aren't.
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I want Adam dlc. Eve is homo, no Eve dlc please.
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>>171153849
>>171153857
>>171154329
>seeing all the 2B9S shipping before the game was released
>"cute, but there's no way they'll be anything like that in the actual game"
>"oh..."
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What is the correct playing order of the Drakengard and Nier games.
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>>171154451
>>171155308
Oh, and not every machine is dropped off by N2. Pascal left on his own with his villagers, and Adam and Eve both disconnected on their own, though those two are the height of their evolutionary progress and aren't quite the same thing.
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>>171155408
Release order, you dingus. Each game was made with the previous games in mind.
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>>171155218
Hard to say. It could be alluding to otherworldly events, like something Accord's mixed up in, or just the fear of the inevitable conflict between Gestalts and Replicants fighting over the right to their future.
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>>171155408

Play the good ones but don't play the bad ones
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>>171155308

But I've actually read the Fire of Prometheus and the 'network' you claim he was making doesn't resemble the machine network in Automata at all. The machines in Fire of Prometheus were just becoming identical to Beepy in thought processes due to constant exposure to him and his ideas, not actually linking up to his consciousness or anything like that.
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>>171155362
I knew they were going to be a "couple" when 2B's JP VA said something about 2B's true feeling about 9S or something like that.
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>going for joke endings
>come to Ending L
>Ending L : Lone Wolf - Abandon the battle area in the final battle of either Route A or Route B.
>try to run around the map during various points of the chapter
>jack shit
>try to run from Eve during the fight
>invisible walls forever

Am I missing something?
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>>171155512

>Oh, and not every machine is dropped off by N2. Pascal left on his own with his villagers

No, they just thought they left on their own. Adam and Eve were the only ones who left by their own power and because they were a new apex of evolution like you say.
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>>171155354
Too bad, you're getting homo DLC and you're gonna like it.
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>>171155626
You have to do it when The Resistance Camp is on fire
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>>171155526

How do you feel about the idea of not playing Drakengard 2, or looking at anything involving it, at all?
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>>171155569
But that's absolutely wrong, they all have the name Beepy at the start, but read it all the way to the end.

>We are not an absolute, cohesive whole. Rather, we all exist individually within a larger mind. We had deliberately made it this way, since we knew it would increase our probability of survival. We knew that there was no hope of completely integrating so many consciousnesses in possession of their own egos from the start.

>To establish oneself as an individual, a border must be erected between one’s self and those of others. If we could go back to being mere machines, perhaps then we could fully merge. But it was too late for that now.

>Our electric circuits, made to imitate the human brain, had come to reciprocally connect an gargantuan number of neuron elements. It could be described as people talking to each other and coming to decisions like a council. A consciousness was not formed by merging into one… on the contrary, it was the linking of countless individuals. That may be the true definition of a network.
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>>171155534
Yonah is precious cinnamon roll
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>>171155408
The stories are mainly standalone, but If you're interested in the story I'd recommend playing the first Nier first, then Automata.

Then if you still want more backstory look into Drakengard 1, while being wary of the horrendous gameplay.

Drakengard 2 was a direct sequel to the first game, but made by a different director, so a lot of people dismiss it.

Drakengard 3 was a kind-of-sort-of prequel to the first game.
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>>171155730
Ah, so go in the camp and then leave, right? I'll give that a try ASAP.
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>>171155283
>>171155303
I'm not even gonna bother with spoiler tags anymore because this thread is already dripping with spoilers
I guess the main plot point I'm confused on is the aliens invading. Because presumably humanity had already died by this point due to Project Gestalt failing roughly 2,000 years prior to Automata.

So they invaded, causing the replicants and androids to retreat into space?
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>>171155626
Not the final boss, just the ball thing.
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>>171155797
How does sex with this specifically work if you're Caim?
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>>171155804
yeah
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>>171155809
>prior to Automata
Prior to the invasion and YoHRa's creation I mean.
Automata is another several thousand years after all this.
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>>171155612
You wouldn't happen to remember where she said that, would you? I watched pretty much every presentation and livestream I came across during my pre-release hype, but I don't remember that bit in particular.
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>>171155768

Sorry, what? Where is this from?
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>>171155946
I think it was during their Taiwan press interview.
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I fucking love Jackass
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>>171156041
This is from Fire of Prometheus. You can pick this up in the OP if you don't have it saved anywhere.
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>>171156094

Oh god fucking damn it the drakengard 3 blog only has five of the seven parts of it. Fuck me.
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>>171156073
I love fucking Jackass!
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>>171155884
Mass murder and neck petting is their outlet.
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>>171156063
Oh, right, I guess I never paid much attention to the Taiwan stuff. Gonna see if I can dig it up, thanks.
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>>171154915
>does she have hair down there?
Well they're designed to be aesthetically pleasing as all hell and sexy beyond belief.
So, no.
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>>171156152
someone else made a full translation of that but it disappeared from the internet for some reason, though he recently reposted it if I am not mistaken
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For the OST, do we know if the tracks are going to be until the track loops or will they be longer and contain two loops of the track?
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is the DOD3 side story novel fully translated anywhere?
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>>171156171
Part of me wished Caim was in Automata as a super boss.
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>>171155946
Found it.
http://nier2.com/blog/2017/01/25/interview-with-yosuke-saito-from-taipei-game-show-corrections/
>ーAnother question for Ishikawa-san. Without spoiling anything, can you tell us what do you think of 2B?

>I: (hahaha) Okay. First of all, the story itself is shocking in a multitude of ways—I’m really scared I might accidentally blurt something out. 2B isn’t allowed to express emotion, but in small places, here and there, you can see her treating 9S with gentle care. Since she isn’t overly flamboyant, she may be holding back her feelings, although they tend to unintentionally show in the heat of the moment or in slight subtleties of the heart. I recorded so many lines while thinking how it would be nice if she could express how she really feels.

>S: I won’t spoil anything, but listening to you just now almost made me cry. (haha)
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>>171156272
it's a full on novel which is basically a collection of scenes from the game rearranged in different order so there wouldn't be much of a point in fully translating it, though there is a complete summary of it on grimoire cendre. Unfortunately it's in french but you can get the idea by using an auto translator
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What's up with the elevators in the desert and the Flooded City?

I've finished endings A-E and they still won't open.
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>>171155768
>Beepy ruined everything
>Didn't even stick around and just left the planet in a big ball
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>unleashing A2's B mode during those final fights
>deadly heal +4

god damn
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>>171156309
Well, that saved me some looking around. Thanks.
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>>171153539
I've heard people say that Kaine ruined everything in the Novella.
What exactly did she ruin?
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>>171156309
Why is 9S wearing the Minnie ears
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>>171156425
D L C
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>>171156425
No real answer to what's inside them (Taro said it was poo) so people are guessing it was either a joke, or that DLC might open them up later.
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>>171156543
2B didn't want to wear the Minnie bow, so 9S is wearing it for her.
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>>171155739
Acceptable since it's not a Taro game and has no bearing on the overarching series lore. The scenes with Caim are pretty neat though, so maybe look those up on YouTube at least.
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>>171156523
what is up with the red flash when holding the R2 button, is there a special move that happens when you activate B mode when it appears? or is it just to let you know that the dodge time is almost up
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>>171156543
He's the girl in the relationship
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>>171156431

Having actually finished it now, what Beepy did sounds terrifying. He basically spread a logic virus through all the androids and machines to forcefully integrate them into his network. Almost exactly like the red-eyed virus that N2 used on YoRHa.

Is Beepy the true villain of Nier: Automata?
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>>171156842
He ruined everything, yes
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>>171156604
of course it's dlc, Nier Automata is a mainstream release with tons of advertisement done for it, no way they aren't releasing story dlcs for it, people saying they aren't coming our are delusional
I just wouldn't expect them to come out any time soon since dlcs are taking a long ass time to come out for most games now, the deus ex dlc took so long to come out they cancelled the series in the mean time, kek
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>>171156887

If only Nier had properly destroyed Beepy. 9S was right, you have to make sure the enemy's dead.
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>>171155796
Yonah got raped by a futa with corpse shit on her dick before dying of black scrawl.
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Would love to see Taro making a horror game
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>N2
Who
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>>171156887
Turns out that Nier's mistake wasn't too much killing, but too little.

Really makes you think.
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>>171156948
there's literally no indication of this, yonah isn't even mentioned in that track of the drama cd, that's only the corpse's little sister but she doesen't get the kainé dick unfortunately. I don't know where this rumor started
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>>171156989
loli based on Nier's gestalt data
a literal Nier 2
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Anyone got a mega for the OST?
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>yfw Taro's final game not only makes the entirety of Drakengard 2 100% canon, but also retroactively makes it a masterpiece
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>>171157095
Not on the drama CD is where.
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>>171156842
>>171156887
>He basically spread a logic virus through all the androids and machines to forcefully integrate them into his network.
I don't recall him doing that.

Beepy spreads consciousness to other machines to try and end pointless fighting, but he goes out of his way to maintain their individuality and offers them the choice with what to do with it.
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>>171156976
Drakengard 1's twisted atmosphere is way more disturbing than even the most intense horror games I've ever played.
I think he's deliberately tried to lighten up over the years by incorporating warmth and humor into his stories, along with his goofy public persona, but I'd really like to see him take another stab at full-blown balls-to-the-wall insanity some time.
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>>171157041
Well, if someone had taken away Nier's reason for fighting in the first place (returning the Yonah to him) the Beepy development would've been altered dramatically by shade boy not dying.
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>>171157231
>title is nier automata
>the machine (automaton) network is based on the gestalt data including the original gestalt, Nier
woah
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>>171157342
>and offers them the choice with what to do with it.
>Beepy became the new Queen Beast entirely by accident
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>>171156976
That's basically what Drakengard 1 was by the end.
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>>171157342

He hacked into them to forcefully impose his will on them and stop them from fighting. He made the machines, which weren't sapient before, suddenly possess consciousness. Of course he doesn't think it's strange to suddenly force thousands of minds to be exposed to each other on a network, and of course he thinks it's alright as long as their egos aren't destroyed by it. That's fucked up.
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>>171155809
Project Gestalt imploded around 3400 AD, the very last remaining Replicants and Gestalts finally died off around 4200 AD marking the total extinction of humanity, the aliens first invade some time around 5000 AD I believe, and Automata takes place at almost 12000 AD
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>>171157804
>Sixty Nierggers!
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Ok so where the fuck is this game taking place again
I was under the impression that it was happening in what was left of the prefectures in the area surrounding Disneyland Tokyo in Japan, but it's actually in Hawaii?
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>>171158123
Hawaii?
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>>171158123
Judging from the trajectory at which 9S comes into orbit in order to Assist 2B, it looks like they are somewhere in Greenland or Iceland
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>>171157697
He didn't force them to stop fighting, they stopped after suddenly attaining a new sense of self-awareness.

Some were grateful and celebrated an end to conflict, some were fearful of the future, some were speechless before straight up attempting suicide. It was a case-by-case basis.
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>>171158123
There are documents mentioning Tokyo and Maihama in the city ruins, at least in the JP version. I think your first assumption was correct.

>>171158362
That's obviously an oversight, considering the carrier you get asked to defend was in the pacific.
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>>171158362
I'm pretty sure that shot doesn't really mean anything, when you consider how North America is still right where it is and they explicitly put the land mass you're on in the game in the Pacific Ocean.
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>>171158587
>>171158623
That's just what stuck out to me as of my recent playthrough.
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>>171158527

Yeah that sounds soooo great and wonderful. Beepy forced the machines to be sapient and violated the minds of the androids. He is literally worse than Hitler.
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Holy shit, I finally got ONE +8 perfect chip. That took for-fucking-ever.
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What would the sex be like?
Assume post-E where 9S is killed because he stays CaimS when he wakes up, and A2 is comforting 2B one night under the stars.
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>>171158737
>21 pointaroonies
Is it even worth it? Seems like it would be better to have a wider variety of cheaper chips.
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Does anyone get sometimes a shaking camera issue whenever you try to look up?
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>>171158936
vigourous cuddling
hand-holding
interlocked fingers

Or in the case of ending A, choking.
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>>171159202
What do you mean shaking?

Do you mean how 2B swats the camera away whenever you look at something higher up because she's a narcissistic whore who automatically assumes you're trying to look up her dress?
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>>171159304
He was talking about 2B and A2, not 2B and 9S.
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>>171159115
Health and offensive heal can trivialize the game even on hard.
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>>171158715
So, better to be nothing at all than to be given the chance to live and accept the hardships that come with that?

Beepy saw beings akin to what he used to be being used for pointless conflict and gave them an opportunity for something more.
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>>171159310

She only does that if you specifically look through the slit of her skirt

she doesn't mind it if you're playing 9S
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>>171159396
Health, melee/range defense and deadly heal are the only things you that matter desu
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>>171159412
Playing God is generally a fucked up thing to do, yes.
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>>171159387
>See spoiler
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>mfw that dialouge during the emil fight
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So I'm at 98% Archive completion. Only missing 1 item. Apparently it's called Factory Cafeteria Sign or something like that. I have no idea where it is, though, and Google is helping. You guys able to help a brother out?
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>>171159202

Yeah that happens because the camera is colliding with either the ground or a wall.
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>>171158936
oh, that's something we could use, a lewds pastebin
all we need are writefags
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>>171159310
Yeah like a stutter. Kinda wierd don't know if it's an issue with the game...Is not that noticable because you are always moving but it happens sometimes when I move the camera to look up things above.
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>>171159601
It's very close to the factory entrance. It's in a hackable chest.
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>>171159503
That's what I did.
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>>171159609
Oh, I see. Thanks senpai
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>>171159471
Don't forget anti chain damage.
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>>171159412

Considering the life of nearly every machine after being made into conscious beings has been literally hell for all of them forever, yeah, Beepy is the worst thing that ever happened to the machine lifeforms. Oh and the androids were already sapient, he just happened to mindfuck them into insane celebrations, mortal terror, and fucking suicide.

And you know every single one of those androids was purged shortly thereafter because there is no android network.
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>>171159761
Fugg I'm sorry was meant for >>171159602
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>>171159609
The lewd pastebin is the 2Booty Weekly Zip folder. that's all you need.
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>max health
>anti-chain damage
>overclock
>auto heal or offensive heal
Become as gods.

Offensive chips are garbage, because you already have to intentionally drag out fights to hear all the dialogue.
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>>171159646
Its an issue with your camera being shoved into the ground.
Change your camera settings, doesn't matter to what so long as its fairly different, play for half a second, reset to default.
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Yesterday I told you guys I loved the game after going in blind, and after playing through ending E I'm actually torn between this, Zelda and Bloodborne as not only GOTY but game of the generation. The only things I'm waiting on to reach this level is other Japanese games like Mario Odyssey, Persona 5 and Trails of Cold Steel 2.
Thank you for shilling this game on /v/.
I also sent a congratulations to Taro on Twitter and he started following me.
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>>171155230
>She is 330 pounds and he is 286 pounds.

I fucking love Taro for making them weigh as much as cars
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>>171160009

That's actually a thing?
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What would you ask Taro for Christmas
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>>171160172
You're welcome, family. Glad you enjoyed it.
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>>171160249
Yep. Yoko's usually the first to table for it and everything.
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Any tips on getting more unit data? I'm at 92
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFhM1ayTsqE
Is it day 5 or 6 of listening to this song? I can no longer quite remember. I suppose the only thing that counts in the end is that I can't stop fucking listening to it.
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>>171159471
I feel like I get more mileage out of the % heal than deadly heal since you don't have to kill something to get back to health. I mean none of it really matters when you can take infinite recoveries but still.
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>>171160580
it's like you're just going from war to war, anon
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>>171160591
oh, I'm probably confusing deadly heal with whatever gives you HP on hit
The end of the game turns into drakengard with huge mobs everywhere and A2 with bracers can get half of her HP back in one combo in some cases.
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>>171160517
not that anon, but can I get a link back to that? I had it somewhere but seemed to have lot it. I'm gonna put it in the OP
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>>171160706
Deadly heal is the big % recovery when you kill something, Offensive heal is the smaller % heal of the damage you deal and auto heal is % per second after not taking damage.
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>>171160695
The name of the song is actually War & War, the "to" is the Japanese "to", like Hikari to Yami = Light and Darkness
Yes I have done research on this song too. The last song that got me charged like this was on the Persona 5 OST and I wasn't expecting another one to show up so soon.
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>>171153539

sauce pls
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>>171160990
It's kind of disgusting. Really disgusting.
I read it years ago and I still have vague images in my head of Kaine making fun of Nier for his smegma
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>>171160769
CUTE!
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I just finished route A and I'm heading for the Forest King on B now. I'm liking these new weird cutscenes with 9S narrating. Please tell me it gets even weirder. Also, should I bother with side quests now or should I clean those up later?
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>>171160891
>english and nip words smooshed together
all according to keikaku
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>>171160794
Just google 2Booty.
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>>171161089
>please tell me it gets even weirder
Buckle in.
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>>171161089
It's up to you, i did them as soon as they showed up like i usually do with jrpgs, they sometimes give more insight or foreshadowing
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>>171161089
You can come back later with chapter select and it tells you how many you have left in each section of the game but the loot is kind of related to when you can do them.
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>>171161118
It's a twitter link isn't it?
Googling that and what I'm getting is a reddit link and some some pintrest links.
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Do we have the tracklist for the ost release on the 29th? Is it the full Jukebox track set?
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>>171156152
>>171156252
https://web.archive.org/web/20150628082225/http://kho-dazat.tumblr.com/post/119242975777/a-tiny-flame-burns-within-my-consciousness

Full version here.
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>>171160280
9S or any S-model. ;_;
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>>171161089
You can finish side-quests later if you like, but I think there are a few of them that help provide some new story context and strengthen the impact for things to come.
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>>171161812
I don't think so, just that it has 3 discs + the hack disc.
I hope it comes with all the variations + vocal versions
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When are we getting Okabe's rendition of "Clash on the Big Bridge"?
I need it. And I kind of wanted Square to show their support for this game putting some FF stuff in it, like one of the dungeons having android Gilgamesh in it, and instead they're just shoving a bunch of Automata stuff in XV.
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>>171161817
He reposted it on some other service and added a couple of paragraphs he forgot to translate the first time, I updated the file in the archive in the OP with the new translation
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>>171162182

Square had zero hopes for this game performing well because of the underperforming shitshow that DoD3 was.

Honestly, it's nice that Taro finally got a smash hit like Automata.
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>>171162182
Y-You mean like the Engine Blade changing damage values to FFXV's font and coloration and your dashing to Noctis' dashing?
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>>171158715
>>171159867
>He is literally worse than Hitler
>Beepy is the worst thing that ever happened to the machine lifeforms.
I wouldn't call parents inherently cruel or evil just because their child happened to grow up into a terrible life. No one asks to be born.
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>>171162143
Is it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqOfgX4VBi8&t=0s This would be great if it was just split into seperate tracks but I'm lazy.
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>>171162379
yeah that's why they invested so much money into advertising it everywhere
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>>171162342
Ah, thanks.
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>>171162423

A parent raises their child. Beepy gave machines awareness and a network and then fucked off to space because he gives zero fucks about anything except spreading his network further into the cosmos. He's basically become just like the alien invaders.
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>>171162114
That's literally just her normal dress with shorter sleeves. She's even wearing her leotard under it.

I want my money back.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12540554
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>>171162663
THIS CANNOT CONTINUE is way more meaningful
but BECOME AS GODS is the meme
A hard choice.
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>>171162587
Friendly reminder that Beepy is the Watchers.

>selfish, evil humans killed little Kalil
>he'll make them pay
>every last one of them
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>>171162587
Excepts the aliens offered no motivation outside of destroying life, while Beepy was spreading it.

God knows what he planned to spread it to after he ditched everything to fly off into a random direction of space though.
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>>171162735
>2B is 330 pounds.
Ywn pick her up like a princess. :(
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>>171162870
There's something wrong with the Commander's thigh, but it's fucking something. Got a sauce?
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>>171163069
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=61590989
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>>171162859

Beepy gave life to things that were never designed to live in the first place. He turned simple and disposable weapons of war into things that could think and feel. That's like giving your onahole a consciousness so that it can ponder the torment of its own existence that can never strive to be anything more than a cocksock.

Then he flew off to spread life to other worlds, presumably ready to hack and viciously violate the minds of any organisms he should encounter in the void.
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>>171163063
>wanting to princess carry 2B
>not wanting to be princess carried by 2B
Get it together, anon.
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Every picture of 2B with a t-shirt must go in the butt folder
That way Taro will actually see it and it may influence his DLC costume choices
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>>171163263
I wish artisits didn't give her gigantic tits. At the most she's a light D cup or a C.
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>>171160280
More games
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>>171163568
I think she's a B cup.
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>when Adam&Eve teleport away after the alienship fight
>when you see a hologram of N2 on the far left side of the screen Emil grinning
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Just out of curiosity.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12540585
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Anyone have compilation of the different picture shows from Route B?

I remembering thinking that the sphere that rose from the mountain was probably Beepy, but I was fairly confused on some of the others.
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>>171163332
>That part where she Princess carries 9S after the Adam fight

I'd like to hear what quirky jokes 9S probably made while that was happening
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So were Adam, Eve, and N2 always completely different entities?

I thought Adam and Eve were the ones running the show, but I guess they were just random evolved facets of the network as a whole?
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It would have been nice to see N2 interacting with Adam and Eve a bit. I can't imagine Adam and Eve would have liked having N2 in their heads.
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>>171163679
You mean E cup.
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>>171163894

Adam and Eve seemed to have the ability to control the network in the same way N2 could, and seemed to be above N2's control. N2 doesn't even do anything until after both Adam and Eve are dead, presumably because Adam and Eve could overpower N2.
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>>171163903
I dont know why they would want that especially Eve. She's kinda of a cunt.
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>>171163894
>draw Yukiko twice
>call it the twin figureheads of a hivemind machine consciousness referencing a multi-dimensional God that uses giant naked babies to genocide humanity
Why is this allowed?
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>9S' into shmup gauntlet before the Engels fight
On Hard
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>>171163679
I want to touch 2B's 2Bs!
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holy FUCK how do I beat the Square Enix part of the Ending E credits?!
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>>171164556
Do you have your internet connected?
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>>171164556
Make sure you're connected to PSN.

And don't give up.
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>>171164556

You can't carry the weight of the world on your shoulders, anon. You're just one girl.
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>>171164556
You accept the rescue I sent you
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>>171164556
BECOME AS GODS
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>>171165120

Shut up you damn machines!
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Do you guys know where i can find the Sound Data 5 ?
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>>171164192

Honestly even just the prologue on a blank slate fresh hard new game is fucking ridiculously hard

So's the rest of the game, granted. Fuck mooses. In fact, fuck everything. You die in like one hit to stubbies with guns. You might as well be playing Very Hard.
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>>171165151
WAAAAAAAAA
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>>171165228
At some point they were just all available in the resistance camp shop, probably after all main endings
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>>171165607

Adam was actually a pretty decent guy. If he wanted to, he could have broken the cycle completely right over his knee, but sadly he was too obsessed with learning what it means to be human for that.
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>>171165703
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>>171165703
>>171165607

The most natural sounding translation for that would be "Wait," as 'so' and 'then again' don't fit the urgent confusion of a sentence like that
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>>171165780
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>>171165826
Duly noted.
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Has anyone here played very hard mode on a clean save? Did you find it an overall enjoyable experience? Any particularly rage-inducing encounters?
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>>171166015
The story stuff is just right imo, it was way too easy on normal. But cobmat sidequests can be pretty hard unless you level up a bit
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What happens when you don't delete your data on ending E?
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>>171166342
Literally nothing.
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>>171166342
You become a bad person.
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>>171164556
>be a complete shitter at bullet hell
>feel like garbage because I hit a brick wall at Online Business Development
>see all these people who can't even make it past Square Enix
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>>171166015

The issue with Very Hard is that it is way too easy to take a hit on accident due to RNG or the battle itself being so filled with effects that you can't actually see if the enemy is getting ready to attack or not. Take the first Adam fight, for instance. His counters can come out in random directions and at random times, often with only a couple frames to react and dodge them, on top of the near constant effects that conceal him and his movements so you can't tell exactly what he's doing as long as you're hitting him. Even on Hard, Adam is ridiculous due to his counters being basically OHKOs.
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>>171164556
Connect to the internet and cry
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>9S has a [W] end at the end of the intro
>Have to do the whole thing over
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>>171166005
>>171165895
>>171165780

2cute, thanks mysterious anon
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>>171166580

I got real sick of the [W] end on my 2B prologue Hard run. Not excited for 9S's prologue down the line.
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>>171160245
Wait, since when are cars 330 pounds?
Holy shit I can bench a car now!
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>>171156924
Hope you're right. I'd really like to see some of the character/world's stories expanded on, but I don't really want to hype myself up if there isn't anything to go on yet.
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>>171160280
Answers.
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WARRCOM TO SHIT WOURD
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>>171167140

You'll get more questions and you'll like it, you ungrateful cunt!
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>>171167140
Was accord a weapon seller in DoD3?
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>Get 90% unit data
>Still not enough to finish 4S's quest

You need to complete this quest to access the final Emil desert fight, right? Do I have to get literally every unit except for that boss to finish this quest? I have no idea what else I'm missing at this point either
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>>171167276
She apparently owns the operation that the android resistance uses for their weapons, and has some marketing fliers scattered around for her business, but she's only mentioned in passing.
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>>171167504
Given she is android, I had hoped to see her in Automata.
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>>171167192
Where are they hiding Angelus's body Taro?!

You're right though, I will...
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>>171166937
>Implying anyone here lifts
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>>171167495
No, you just need all weapons at max for Emil and Unit data at 95% for 4S's quest
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>>171167791
Oh, alright then, someone said that you needed 98% quest completion to fight Emil in the desert

I just need a couple gold ores and memory alloys to finish maxing out every weapon, then I'm gonna fight Emil again, then buy Transcendent Being to get my platinum trophy, then redo ending E and delete my saves
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What's the voice changer used for?
Other than the obvious
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>>171167882
Gold ore you can buy from the Machine Shopkeeper in the Amusement park during the last bits of Route C, though it may be level locked.

Memory Alloy you can buy from Emil if you manage to stop him in front of of the Resistance Camp.
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Did you buy the children's cores?
Did you sell them?
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Was gonna translate a few more things but I'm tired. I'll dump some of the ones I did on /v/.
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>>171168182
Nah I dont deal in body parts only fish
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>>171168119
I don't think it has any real purpose outside of making characters sound silly cranking it up one way, and sound like shades when flipping it the other way.
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>>171168694
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Where do I get the glasses key item?
Toobie must be wearing glasses.
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>there will never be Zero and Kaine lewds

Also how does Kaine's dress always perfectly cover her nipples?
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>>171168983
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>>171169161
pls respond this is important
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I want more A2

why did she get so little screen time

shes on the cover of the fucking box

the plot synopsis on steam is "NieR: Automata tells the story of androids 2B, 9S and A2 and their battle to reclaim the machine-driven dystopia overrun by powerful machines"

I fucking hate this game famalams
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The commander actually has the same high-cut leotard as 2B. She isn't bottomless.
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>>171169350
>>171169161

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlNMV1OzI2Q

Here you go friend
Im not sure if this what your looking for I havent unlocked any glasses yet
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>>171169391

>I want more A2

Her story is finished

>why did she get so little screen time

Because they ran out of budget to add the sequence of her suicide mission to show her losing all the people she cared about

>shes on the cover of the fucking box

barely

>the plot synopsis on steam is "NieR: Automata tells the story of androids 2B, 9S and A2 and their battle to reclaim the machine-driven dystopia overrun by powerful machines"

That's all true

>I fucking hate this game famalams

I love you
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I'm so glad you can do the desert Emil fight as 2B, I'm gonna play as the one true main character in my send-off of Automata
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>>171169456
Her leotard is much narrower, though. It looks more like the pussy floss that people always give toobs in lewd art.
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>>171169505
I think 2B loves 9S more than 9S loves 2B
She does know him better
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>>171169505
I don't think 2B actually wants to destroy Pascal, and it's clear that A2 very quickly warms up to him too
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>>171169559
>not playing as kAine2 against emil
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>>171169505
Pascal loves everyone!
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>>171169479

I bet Yoko Taro planned like five whole chapters based around the suicide mission, just long enough to fall in love with A4 and seriously sympathize with A2 when A4 dies
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>>171169456
It's even smaller than 2B's leotard
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>Shit Square Enix!


>get to ending E


Is Yoko Taro the absolute master of kino in this medium?
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>>171166342
Nothing.
You're just proving everything Adams come to believe about humanity and life in general is correct.
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>>171169505
>erase
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>>171166546
ProTip: EVERY attack is precluded by some noise and light indicator. Every. Single. One.

Just gotta learn to pick up on it. Best case scenario you see it coming but even then you hear it coming so you just dodge reactively to that.
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>>171169279
>tfw I didn't know I need this
>tfw I now need this

Watching cute girls molest each other when one of them is fiesty about it is pretty nice.
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>this shit kicking in the tower as you switch characters, eventually increasing in switching frquency until you reach the top

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQuHwqMcN8w

i swear, platinum just KNOWS how to make the player feel good. from the perfect evade system to the hit lag on heavy attacks, or the overclock chips.
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>>171167703
in Emils body, several now dead books, magical programs, and ambient magical particles that are almost entirely gone.
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>>171170267
ESPECIALLY when one of them has a big benis.
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>>171167716
>anon hasn't been trying to reach his evolutionary potential for the past decade
Has Taro taught you nothing?
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Is Emil the most powerful being in the taroverse?
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>>171170305
>the fight constantly switching between the two perspectives might be my favorite example of story intermarrying with the gameplay.
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>>171170534
It's kind of hard to quantify strength in a series with time traveling robots and inter-dimensional cosmic horrors.
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Glory...to mankind.
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>>171170534

Awakened Angelus is the strongest being, which means Caim actually is the strongest since he beats Awakened Angelus.
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When Alien Manifestation (prologue theme) kicks in, shit is about to go down.
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>>171170736
But fighter jet beats Caim.
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>>171170850
No, he just put his controller down after spending six hours trying to clear Truth.
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>>171170850

It was a dirty sneak attack!
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>>171170704
Is the voice representing the council of humanity on the moon supposed to sound like N2? Or am I just imagining it?
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>>171170416
>big
Nah m8. Her character art shows its Cute-tier in size.
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>>171170850
A. Not awakened
B. A fucking sneak attack so dirty it turned a small island into a mountain of salt.
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>>171170956
That's how I read it.
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I WANT A DRAKENGARD REMAKE

WHOS WITH ME
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>>171171276
I WANT SQUARE ENIX TO BECOME TARO ENIX.

OR SQUARE TARO?

I DUNNO, WHICH SOUNDS BETTER?
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>>171170958
>Then she sees Kaine hold something with her demonic left arm, and she was absolutely horrified when she notices what that thing is.
>Kaine is holding……. that swelled up and stiff male organ. The traveller saw the blood vessels on the object shaking.
Sounds pretty big desu

Could be like boobs and mechs in anime, where they vary wildly in size from scene to scene.
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>>171171276
Fuck no. Drakengard can only be made worse by remaking it.
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>>171171336
SHITARO ENIX

PRODUCER

YOSUKE SAITO
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>>171171276
Eh. I don't think Taro would get much out of retreading it. Most of what it was done in response to is no longer topical, and the themes aren't relevant to current Taro. We'd be better served with a DoD1.5, a proper version of DoD2, or just cutting the crap and going straight for DoD4.
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>>171154943
it's just type 40 sword
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>>171171525
Yeah, I wouldn't mind just seeing a proper sequel in the same universe.
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>>171171905
Honestly, the core elements of DoD2 would have been fine if they hadn't gone straight down JRPG cliche road.
If No Way had actually suffered consequences for murdering Union soldiers and breaking the FUCKING SEALS AND TOUCHING THE FUCKING SEEDS, it would have been a pretty decent followup.
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I just want to know what happened to drakenworld after Caim and Angelus took a trip to Tokyo.

That seems like the second biggest hole in the series, after "how the fuck did cathedral city end up in the 800s".
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>>171171345
The heck is that from?
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>>171172143
Well, Seere's probably still around.

Yay?
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>>171153539
Can anyone tell me the name of the track that plays while you explore the tower with 9S? It plays before encountering N2
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>>171172143
I'd imagine everybody was eaten by angels, but The Great Time remained uneaten.
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>>171172178
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zcv9nyYvtkOy2lCjCTp2oM3YPrXZ7gPzhHAX34ts9o/edit?hl=en
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>>171172263
I kind of assumed that the Grotesques would bugger off after the Queen Beast left, but maybe that's wishful thinking.
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Does anybody remember the name of that scrapped game that was about a girl controlling a giant, that was going to have been set after DoD's C ending?
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>>171172143
I distinctlt recall some shit that basically said it slowly got worse until its existence just petered out but I can't recall from where.
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>>171172475
Got worse how?
And how does a world's existence just...peter out?
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Where do i get all the Novels? I'm at 50% with all endings
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>>171153539
Wait hold on so even if you pick 9S, does the ark gets launched?
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>>171172328
Well then..
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>>171172757
If you pick A2 it blows the fuck up, if you pick 9s regardless of whether you select to go with them it fires.
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>>171159609
Yeah, those just grow on trees. Easy pickings.
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>>171172530
Well when you're shitlisted by The Watchers and they're now in your world shit goes pretty south.
Thats like having cthulu rolling around and expecting shit to be normal.
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>>171172739

I'm pretty sure you're missing the Pearl Harbor ones.

As 2A, you have to keep talking to Anenome until she tells you she has the files on her computer if you want to look at them.
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>>171172767
Yeah. She fucks some dudes corpse in front of said corpses sister during one of those battlelusts.
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>>171172953
After that one*
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>>171160009
I'm still looking for the twitter link for this if anyone happens to have it or know it off the top of their head. Google has unfortunately given me no accurate results, and I want to put this in the OP.
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>>171172839
which is kind of funny since adam and eve were put on the spotlight as evil just to be friendly at the end of the game
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>>171173042
https://twitter.com/2b_butt
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>>171173091
That's more to do with the fact the machines evolve a lot just through the game's progress, and the network itself going all fucky.
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>>171173091
Main issue is they're literally children despite their physical bodies.

Adam just had time to mature towards older teenhood while his doting and care kept his bro Eve in a sort of adolescence.

What kid do you know has any actual morality before age 5? If no parent existed to instill this would it develop naturally "just because"?

Its the whole "i can do no wrong" bit. Adam just slowly learns this from knowledge he digs up and Eve could care less he just wants to play with his big bro.

Whole message is they aren't evil they just misunderstood. You can't even call them misguided because they don't really have any guidance beyond their own vacuum.
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>>171170956
>>171171169
Yeah, I didn't know if that was implying the machines hacked the servers long ago, or that they were just imitating the fake broadcast to be spiteful.
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>>171173125
This fucking mad man.
Thank you, anon, I'll make sure not to lose it this time!
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>>171173334
>What kid do you know has any actual morality before age 5?
Information is transferred across the network, they're probably developed morally as they were ever going to be.
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Here to see if that guy ever finished his Cavia High School thing?
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>>171173421
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Goodnight, /ndg/!
If the tread limits before I get back, just make the next one for me and do something witty with the Edition title!
Also add >>171173125 to the OP, otherwise I'll do it tomorrow.
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>>171172928
Yeah i think so, i can't get her dialouge though. Maybe i'll have to play through some chapters
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>>171173809
I got it in the chapter when I had to replace the fuel filter after the Hegel fight.
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>>171173460
They seemed to have some sense but its not perfect.
Remember they aren't human, don't have any solid info for human morality, and only learn what little they did from scraps.
Ex: he knew we had some deal with underwear and nakedness and emulated our attire but didn't know it was attached to embarassment, impropriety, obsceneness, or shame. He just did it cause we did and figured it was just a piece of the puzzle he had to embrace just like death and violence were.

He probably didn't see anything wrong with vivisecting things or that the joy at the prospect is considered sadistic which is considered bad as no one was around to cuff him for it.

Substance without meaning. Rolls back around to the moral of Automata.
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>>171173936
Thanks, that worked
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Zero was the most fun Taro protagonist, I kinda' miss her playing Automata.
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>>171173460
Knowing something doesn't equal to experiencing it. I could know my mom or a family member will die the next day, however the impact isn't there till it actually happens and you experience it.
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>>171174812
I imagine the network allows machines to experience all the combined experiences of other machines, which is why N2 had to apply "evolution vectors" to make them turn out slightly differently.
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>>171174272
I miss the Nier clan.
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How do I get onto the building in the middle of the water in the flooded area with the chests on it?
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>>171175368
jump, dodge, jump, r1+jump
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>>171175459
Ah I haven't been using that for platforming
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>>171174812
>Accord specifically says we might see Zero again some day
Why would they do this? Now I still have hope that won't be fulfilled.
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>hype for Automata
>Decide to replay D3

So uh, is this my PS3 being shit or did this really run at a jerky 20fps?

And why doesi t have the least lenient parry in the series? It's not even a platinum game and it's less babby mode than Bayonetta's parry.
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>>171175608
Sometimes it even drops to single digit fps. I wish it was as well optimized as the first Nier, but that had it's own engine compred to unreal 3
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>>171175513

I thought Zero was a singularity in the Taro universe, so she shows up in some form in every game (Kaine in N1 for example)?

>>171175649

How did I ever enjoy this? It's pretty unplayable, I have distinct memories of enjoying the fist weapons and exploding a Ogres limbs off one by one.

It kinda' is hard to go back after Automata in this regard, I always knew D3 was some sub-Dynast Warriors shit but ergh, at least the story is still a strong mix of crazy, the Intoner's almost make the game for me.
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>>171175608
For me the FPS ranged from fine to slideshow-tier.
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>>171175809
I wish the Drakengard series would get a 60fps remaster by bluepoint or something
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>>171175809

D3 had such a god tier intro level.

>nice FMV
>lots of blood and violence, like a Drakengard game should
>Zero being a murderous edgelord
>Intoner's boss fight
>get fucking rekt at the end

Then you get a baby dragon scared so hard it pisses itself.

I still laugh at Mitsuru-Senpai screaming "..how many times have I told you not to roll around in the FUCKING MUD!?!"
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>Me when i just finished Pascal's last request and deleted her memories [/spoilers]
To go from such a crazy over the top mech fight to...this
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>>171176550
I should have seen it coming. But I didn't.

Not to that extent.
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>>171176702
I knew instantly that the kids were fucked somehow, it was too obvious, but I didn't expect it to be so damn cruel about it
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>>171176550

You mean, his memories

But seriously, the fact that a game would include a group suicide of children, even though they're robots blew my mind. Like, I thought about Kojima and his whole thing with child soldiers, but that doesn't even come close.
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>>171175459
I just hacked the snakebot and hovered over.
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>>171176550
>entering the room after that fight
>his request
>visiting the village again after going through with that request
no matter how much i try to prepare for the worst, taro just masterfully shatters those expectations and crushes my heart and soul
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>>171176550
Now go to the village as 9S.
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>>171158123

it's literally on the same map as nier.
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I've figured it out guys. I know the plot of the next Taro game.

Since Yoko Taro and Saito are motivated almost entirely by what they hate about Japanese media trends Taro's next game will be an isekai. One of the joke endings will be about how videogames are really just mass consumer isekai.

But the plot will be about a young boy in the heart of a small Japanese town who has to ride the train to Tokyo to go to school and spends all his time on the train wishing for another life. Then a dragon smashes into his train and his new life begins. The isekai is really all the weird shit being dragged into his world DOD1 route E style.

Then at the end, when the protagonist and his dragon accept that the world is good as it is and fight to save Earth they get sucked into another world and find themselves in Midgard. It's just an empty white land of salt because white chlorination. It's the beginning of Nier only the end of Drag-on Dragoon 5.
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>>171176912
Buying their remains for scraps later.
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>>171154402
what the fuck was her problem
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>>171177085
Fuck!
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>Arowana
finally I'm fucking done. At least I learned they fucked by leaving the Yorha girl by the desert Oasis after all the shit went down.
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>>171177085
>>171177305
It's fine. Pascal sells it for under market value. Buy it all and sell it to Emil for a profit.
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>>171177340
I never sold it desu, I couldn't do it.
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>>171176550
>Felt it'd be cruel to delete who Pascal was and pretend nothing had happened
>Decide to kill him instead
>Get Pascal's core
>See it in my inventory every time I go to sell things for the rest of my game
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>>171177340
>manipulating the market via the transaction of dead (robot) children's remains
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>>171155768
>said boss #10 from the first game

this will never not be weird
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>>171177326
Any tips? I'm at 44 %
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>>171177326
The two drug addled ones by the oil lake are also a-ok.
>you will never get so high that you stave off a life ending super virus
So that's what? 4 survivors outside of the main cast by route E's end?
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>>171177480

Honestly, dying seems like a much better fate than living in a village alone, surrounded by the corpses of your villagers and selling their parts.
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>>171177580
Buy the trophy it's not worth it.

>>171177642
Considering they'll have black box signals when they restart the project they'll just hunt them down.
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>>171177667
it's not like he knows so who cares
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>>171177667
Pascal will eventually reach the same evolutionary end. Machines that weren't destroyed in the collapse of the tower, overtaken by the red eye style logic virus, or went into space with Adam and Eve will inevitably become Pascal's new family.

Also it's funny that 2B and 9S are the snake and apple that get Adam and Eve cast out from the garden. Even funnier when you realize that Eve splits from Adam at the bottom of his ribcage.
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>>171177823
>splitting
cmon that was in your face obvious
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>>171177865
It's not the first time someone was made from another character's rib. Just the first time the twin was the same gender.

Actually, now that I think about it, that's where Nierverse really splits away from DODverse. Almost all the twins in the Nierverse are the same gender.
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>>171175513
not canon lol
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>>171178089
Every route is canon though.
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>>171178414
Canon routes are only routes that can continue. Routes that end aren't canon. Accord told you that.

Zero will never come back because the only canon route is her dying like a sad sack of worthlessness.
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>>171178624
Actually all of the routes have to be canon at once, two of the endings lead into drakengard 1, one ending has Zero and Michael establish pacts and branch D prevents the flower from destroying the world.
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>>171179042
But literally nothing in the game leads to the original DOD. The actual link to the first game comes from a novelized version of DOD3. So, by technicality, none of the game routes are canon except if you're talking about Ending A leading to the DOD1.3 novel.
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so praying does nothing?
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>>171179042
wasn't One the first one to make a pact?
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>>171179421
It doesn't really matter honestly. According to the DOD3 guide the game itself via ending A leads to the spin off manga which leads to DOD1.3 novels which uses the A Ending of DOD1.

A separate novel combines with the DOD3 novel to lead to the original DOD.

Technically Nier also branches off of a novella ending , although viewed as supplemental material rather than a wholly separate end route unlike DOD3s novel, to even get on the path to Automata so at this point DOD1 is the only game that has an ending that actually leads to another game.
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>>171179708
why is DoD3 such a clusterfuck?
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>>171180263
>trying to understand drakengard 3's story.gif
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>>171180263
>>171180582
zero = me
accord = taro with all the answers
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>>171176550
>Decide to simply walk away, thinking it would trigger a joke ending
>It doesn't
>Pascal just starts to break down, calling 2A cruel and asking her how she could even do such a thing
Game gives me two horrible options and I somehow find a third one that's even worse
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>>171180668
Maybe not everything has to have an answer.
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>yorha stage play
why did taro want this to exist
is it just a jap thing
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>>171181061
YoRHa was a pet project of his that existed for a while in writing. It just so happened that Nier:Automata got the green light while he was writing YoRHa.

Speaking of which Weight of the World is seriously misused in the game. A through D should have had different ending themes and then the full Weight of the World medley should have only played in ending E. Or, at the very least only ending C should have had the base version.

Ending E would have had a bigger impact if weight of the world had been saved for that.
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Does Nier Automa ever get more colorful, I honestly found the demo kind've boring taking place in the same industrial environment and the final boss was just a giant shipping crane
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>>171180829
>Game gives me two horrible options and I somehow find a third one that's even worse
It might seem so at first, but I did the same and I honestly think it's the best choice.
The other two are just allowing Pascal allowing to run away and not learn anything.

Wiping her memory is by far the worst choice, but the game rewards it by making her open a nice shop.
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>>171181327
it's pretty drab most of the game
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>>171181534
>that romeo and juliet screenplay
I couldn't contain my laughter.
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>>171181516
memory wipe is what he wants nigger don't you dare tell me I did the wrong thing
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>>171155230
Manlets - when will they ever learn?
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>>171180829
Half as long
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Does anyone know where the archive data "A Pious Robot's Will" is? Apparently it's in the factory but it's hard to navigate it being so dark even with a light. A screenshot would really help
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Torrent when?
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>>171182846
Twice as bright
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Anyone know where this is from? I just saw it posted out of context. I'm feeling pretty down after finishing the game and I'm just working on 100%'ing it so I guess I'll read the stage play and whatever related material I don't yet know about between breaks
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>>171181061
Japan loves stage plays!
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>>171182930
>I gotta try...
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Is ending E in automata the first relatively happy ending from yoko taro
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>>171183058
I know
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fuck, forgot the image
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>>171182848
It's opposite to the elevator leading down to the robot cult, you might need to go there as 9S in the route C chapters.
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>>171182989
>>171183227
Wait so was the Logic Virus the failsafe E-types like 2E had to fuck over androids that learned too much about the true nature of their struggle?
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>>171182989
http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07/nierautomata-world-guide-novellas/#more-5385
Here yo go. It will make you feel even downer than you already are.
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>>171183470
oh boy, thanks. Really, I just want more content to immerse myself in
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>>171183227
>9S is attacking 2B
>turns out the gunfire was from... 9S

what the fuck am I reading
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>>171183261
holy shit, I can't believe i missed it on the way in. I was looking all over the place in the dark. Well at least I got the weapon in there. Thanks for the help, now my archives are at 100%!
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>>171183459
I think it's a translation error. The Logic Virus that takes over YoRHa obviously doesn't wipe the units' personal data.

Most likely it's just A virus, not THE virus.
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>>171183607
Rekka is still translating it. It was 9S's pod that attacked her first.
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>>171183607
I always feel like translated novels read weirdly. I could never get into reading translated light novels from /a/nons
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>>171183703
Probably a dumb question but where did THE virus originate from again?
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>>171183745
It's because japanese is pretty bad for like....having sentences that literally do not make sense in english without being reworded. Throws off the sentence pacing and whatnot.
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>>171183776
As far as I can tell, the machine network created it as an imitation of the red-eyed Watcher possession.
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>>171183745
I'm the opposite. There's something about obviously translated Japanese that really tickles my pickle.
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>>171175513
Doesn't she turn into QB though?
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>>171183776
It was either designed with the yorha units or that AI that A2 faced was responsible for making it while the backdoor clock was ticking
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>>171180829
>taro teaches anon that neutrality has its consequences to
He's a fucking national treasure i swear.
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>>171181645
hol' up nigga! Lemme just existentially murder this fucker it ain't like another one exactly like him won't crop up in an infinite universe so why not let it be him again. I'm sure his memories and persona dying ain't an evil thing! Wew!
they're all objectively shit choices but you gave him the worst. He could have coped and learned or at the very least just ceased but instead you condemned him to a living hell so obscure and convoluted he won't even notice. If he has a soul you killed it on, like, 8 levels, my dude.
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>>171183607
No anon.
The gunfire came from the pod.
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>>171184793
no what I did was right fuck you
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>>171184793
Pretty sure he ends up committing suicide or is otherwise out of the happy-ending E because he only shows up if you memory wipe him. The worst thing you could do is make him jump off the deep end into another 'Joke Ending' that becomes the basis of the sequel's plot that seems to be the case for Nierverse.
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I wish more bosses had as many attacks as Simone, while she's not really hard when you actually wait and see what she does she has like 15-20 attacks. Especialyl with the music i get why platinum decided to show her off
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>>171185348
>>171185446
Point is either way is better than the hell you left him. You not only murdered him in a fashion but you submit him to that living hell so insane he doesn't even know it. Eventually he'll learn about cores again which means eventually he'll realize what he sold you which eventually will lead to him figuring out what he'd done to some fashion but leaving him with soul crushing questions.
You're literally prolonging his pain to the highest degree and make him suffer it to at least twice the degree as it would have otherwise been even if he doesn't remember the first time around. If i made you murder your family then wipe it day after day after day but one day decide a final wipe is enough and let you go on to live a normal life did i not torture you? Am i not an evil prick for that or is you not remembering somehow some sin cleanser?
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>>171185891
I was kinda hoping for a destroy option that doesn't end in an early ending. The ark ending makes it even worse
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Pascal is weak minded. He even blamed himself for the weakness of the children. Right by the beginning of the chapter he was calling nietze a fool for claiming that when civilization ends so will the shallow men. Meanwhile the androids did their best, A2 and even commander despite knowing how futile and vain yorha is carried on. He could have made more children, he could have joined the androids, he could have carried their memories and his mistakes, but chose the void instead
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>>171186158
correct. But just because someones weak doesn't give you the moral grounds to torture and prey on them. Best case scenario you have the power to end them and their suffering but even thats a hazy line of thought and justification.
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>>171170956
In japanese, the voice is clearly different. The council sounds like the same seiyuu who did 2B's pod, whereas N2 is by the glorious Kotomine, aka Nakata Jouji.
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>>171186272
Sadly it's more on what is needed rather that what is right. Pascal was needed by the androids, the players and I am certain there are many robutts out there that could use his guidance.

You know, if it wasn't the end of the world and shit.
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>>171186962
It just rolls back around to he'll eventually run the same rut, learn about cores, and now just be left with soul crushing questions and half a picture. Considering his other options all lead to suicide its fair to say this one will to. Its arguable it was SEEMINGLY the right decision at the time but we're talking after the fact and third person knowing fully well what all 3 options entail to attempt an objective view of "Worst Decision."
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>accidentally press l3 and r3 the first time
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Somebody post the pic with the machine and the 'become as gods' text underneath it, please. I need it.
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https://u.nya.is/sbjhab.mp4
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I like how the 11B quest retroactively has two different backgrounds. I prefer the "Don't tell her" version; way more heartwarming.
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>>171187521
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>>171187613
I worry about clicking this.
Requesting a brave S Unit to check this out and report back to HQ.
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>>171187825
>>171187613
Its just a webm of the dying monologue of accursed machine scum.
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>>171187825
Order rescinded, its safe.
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>>171187730
That isn't the one I wanted, it was like pic related, but this is good to.
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>>171187521
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Newfag here. Nobody told me this game was going to be sad.
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>>171188241
thanks anon
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>>171188423
IS THIS WORLD REALLY MEANINGLESS?
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What's wrong with the "Lost Girl" quest from Pascal's Village? I completed the shit I thought but it's still active and the marker jumps from Pascal's Village to this place I cannot reach.

Also when should I go to the Flooded City? I got the quest but will it cancel any side quests?
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>>171188423
it's not sad
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Are the random elevators with the apologetic machine the DLC gates or something or is there like, sidequests I missed?
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>>171188646
They won't open for now
Well at least until someone clips through there in the PC version
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>>171188423
Because it isn't sad. Its filled with hope and promise, do not give up, we are with you - 4chan
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>>171188801
Not so speedy when i use slow
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My opinion that the characters are a weakpoint of the game is slowly changing while running through it again. Hope they'll get to buy that T-shirt after ending E...
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>>171188903
where is your sense of honour? next you're going to tell me you hacked Father Servo to death
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>>171188614
>>171188727
Yeah I expressed myself wrong. It's bitter sweet.
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>>171188903
>tfw even 9s can win by simply spamdashing his through all the challenges
What a weird quest.
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>>171189029
I just used slow once to see how effective it actually is. Honestly the races are not even hard with the right chips and once you know the route dodges is way too fast
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>>171188903
fucking technology
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>>171189029
My Kung-Fu is stronger.
[/spoiler]just because its a technique he's never seen doesn't mean its not fair play. Bitch should have upgraded internally instead of externally like a vapid cunt. T.Kenshiro[/spoiler]
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I wish you could just buy shit like elaborate gadget even if it costs 500k
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>>171188913
T - S H I R T
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S
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DLC PLS!
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>>171189238
you can.
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>>171189238
500k is not even close to the price of your tears

just do the unit collection quest, you get 5 of them as reward
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>>171189573
I know i already did all quests, i'm still missing one for the pods. The castle farm is just boring
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>>171188714
There will be nothing after it

Or Emils face with some ironice writing like DLC soon or this is why we can't have nice things
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>>171188714
Some already clipped through one of them on the PS4. It's literally nothing.
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>>171189360
I'd settle this for and a clothes swap dlc
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>>171190023
School swimsuit DLC
Wedding dress DLC
Cat girl suit DLC
R-type DLC
Silly card game DLC
Minecraft mode DLC
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>>171187091

This series going to make anime conventions great for years to come
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>>171190198

Since we're in the topic of clothes, it's really fucking weird that "leotard only" doesn't exist as an option of any kind.
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Toobie x Nines school romance DLC when?
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>>171190267
That's until you see the ugly or overweight girls trying to cosplay them. Then you just see fat in unsavory places spilling out everywhere.
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>>171190381
Simple enough fix.
When you see the uggo's and fatties ignore them but actively get hype as shit when a hot one walks by in front of them. Eventually they disappear once their main food source disappears.
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>>171190365
I'd be down for it.
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This game is a complete package as it is, but why do I feel like I still need DLC for it?
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>>171191034

Because that's how an actually good game works. You want more of it even after you already got all of it.
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>>171178414
I just realized that A2's beserker mode is the more or less the same as Zero's Intoner mode

Zero DLC bossfight when? I'd love to see A2 and Zero trading insults.
Weiss Pod DLC voice pack when ;_;?
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Requesting a picture of 9S wearing a cap with the words "TOP SCAN".
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did anyone actually do anything wrong?
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>>171191649
>tfw now know why he goes full Caim
My boy deserved better ;_;
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>>171191896
Beepy did everything wrong.
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>>171191896

YorHa founders did everything wrong.

Instead of cooking up conspiracies they should have focused all their efforts on turning that human genome they have into cloned humans so they can actually have their master race back and not have to lie about it.
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Do they ever say what YoRHa means? What the acronym comes from?
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>>171191974
They would essentially be creating replicants again if they did that wouldn't they?
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>>171191896
Almost everyone.
except Eve... ;_;
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>>171192039
Just a name, but my wild guess is that it's based on japanese syllables よるは(YoRuHa) but I don't know moon so I can't translate.
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Weren't E types supposed to be a secret? Just started my very hard playthrough and noticed that 7E is one of the squad.
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>>171192039
Supposedly YoRHa has a specific kanji meaning "Passing Leaf" but has no deeper meaning beyond that and NieR was just a style choice.
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>>171192371
undercover ones like 2B, yes
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So Automata is my first Taro game and I have to ask, are all of his games this incredible? I'm talking more specifically about characters and story. There's a lot of tragedy here obviously but the little moments of hope and happiness sprinkled throughout are hitting me really hard. I just did the quest for Operator 6O where I send her a picture of the desert rose and the music that plays as she's thanking 2B coupled with just how happy she is nearly has me crying. I know why this quest in particular is hitting me so hard but all throughout the game so far, the characters (and music especially) evoke a very deep sense of sorrow and longing for them to be okay. I apologize for the rant but I really just needed to get that off my chest.
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>>171192150

Replicants aren't clones, replicants are a different thing created with magic that come with magical problems attached. I'm talking about creating actual real-world-science cloned humans.

Maybe they don't have egg cells in store but with all their supertech and thousands of years of time I'm willing to bet they could create an artificial ovum eventually.
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>>171192473
E-type units can identify each other.
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>>171192548
Is this why you can only make that side quest amnesia as 9s and not 2b?
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>>171192548
HOLY SHIT. Dunno why she didn't notice in the amnesia side quest but yeah that was probably just a story bit and it is just a sidequest
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>>171192473
9S says he had no idea E types were a thing after the Amnesia quest.

>>171192548
Then why isn't 2B recognized as 2E. Also, why they call in "7E down"?
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>>171192508
I'm sad that theres no more magic like weiss used in this world anymore but i'm glad the bullets the machines shoot look the same
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>>171192481
Definitely play Nier 1 after Automata, ut does what you're talking about even better imho. The Drakengard games are pretty different from a narrative standpoint, but they're worth checking out for their own brand of insanity.
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>>171192689
Hold up, what's an H type?
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>>171192548
>>171192689
I must be misunderstanding somewhere but from what I understood Yes, E-types can identify each other but why would a fellow E-type rat out another E-type thats undercover as another model to do her job?
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>>171192797
Healer I guess.
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>>171192797
Ecchi type.
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>>171192481

Taro is a great storyteller. He's usually been held back by less-than-competent development teams and shoestring budgets.

I think original Nier is on the same level storywise. Drakengard games are more of a game of "wtf is going on oh wow".
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>>171192912
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>>171192870
Also to add on, I mean that undercover E-types like 2B are a secret to other android types that aren't E's.
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>>171192870
The problem I have is that 1D calls in that 7E is down. So apparently E types should be common knowledge, which goes against the things we learn in the Amnesia quest. Also why would 2B hide her type but not 7Es in the prologue?
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After doing the data analysis side quest. I finally get why 210 was suddenly being so nice to 9s in the next act. But did she change her model to combat model so she could protect 9S herself?
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>>171193148
>I finally get why 210 was suddenly being so nice to 9s in the next act.
Why did she? It kinda flew over my head.
Also it's fucking 21O, for Operator.
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>>171193148
>wanted a family of her own
>androids can't into babies
>starts treating 9S like a child
>gets upgraded into a combat mama
/ss/ when
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>>171193332
In the 2nd data analysis quest. 21O ask 9S to gather info from the old world around the desert apartments. 9S collects an old accountant book, a childs shoe, and a broken toy. Through this 21O learns about how humans have families and ponders the thought of having one. After that 21O starts speaking to 9S like a protective mother.
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>>171191647
Did my best.
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So, I had player Nier a while before Automata and really enjoyed it, so I started doing my research into Drakengard.
I'm approaching the end of Automata and debating whether to purchase Drakengard 3 or not. I hear a lot of mixed things from fans of the series. I have decent knowledge of the first and second games, but have kept myself kiiiiind of in the dark when it comes to the third.

I'll spend a million years reading wikis and watching videos if I have to, but in your honest opinion is Drakengard 3 worth buying and playing?
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I have been trying to get Emil into the material shop stage for hours now, reloading from every possible access point but I only get the +6, +3 and weapon shops, any help?
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>>171193832
Why do you even ask? If you are into Drakengard then of course.
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>>171191647
This one is better.
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I hope /ndg/ stays this comfy when PC version gets released...
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>>171191406

See also, Witcher 3.

Fuck you FFXV, you didn't earn a single piece of the DLC you're selling.
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Just got Ending E, still have a couple of questions.

1. What was up with all the zombie machines?
2. What exactly were the little girl super AI things in the tower?
3. What was the plan for the remaining androids after the Yorha androids were all fucked over?
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>>171194090
Same.
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>>171194090
I think it's gonna be rough for a while, like the /v/ threads after the US release.
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>>171193832
if you can accept the fact that every game in this metaseries has a wildly different tone than the others and if you can stomach truly awful gameplay (it's a powerpoint presentation all the way through, like 20 fps on its best day and even with a good performance it'd just be really bland) then yes
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Anyone know what time the game will be available to play on Steam tomorrow?
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>>171194513
Around this time, it looks like.
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For as awesome as this game is, does anyone think that the aliens are a little weak compared to everything else?

I mean obviously the focus narratively is about the androids and the machines, races meant to serve other races but having their own lives and feelings and all that, but the alien invaders are brushed away as basically being "like plants", and implying that they were just simply a world conquering hive mind of some sort. Usually every enemy and their dog has some tragic backstory that makes everyone at least somewhat sympathetic, but the aliens are just "meh", you know?
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Found a qt sleepover comic.
https://twitter.com/ks_kwii/status/842161681148985344
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Well?
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Ending E comic with 2B awake.
https://twitter.com/mpaktwd/status/842043130358644736
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>>171194930
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>>171194930

I would definitely **** 2B right in her ***** ****.
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I wonder how many people bought this game purely because of the 2B Booty with no idea they'd be going onto an emotional roller coaster.
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>>171195359
Probably more than you would think. Though the booty controversy didn't come out until about a month become the game did.
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>>171195359
My friend bought the game thinking it was going to be MGR. He was disappointed and thought it was boring.
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>>171195513
I'm assuming he didn't go beyond the first playthrough.
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>>171195513

The downside of having Platinum attached to the project. They've typecast themselves hard into making only one type of game and their fans always expect to get that exact game with a different coat of paint on it.
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>>171195238
>>171195218
>>171194930
Its translated and done better in japanese.
It ALMOST spells/leads into "kill" not "fuck" or "love".
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>>171195589
Yeah, he's a idiot. Didn't like 9S at all, so that sealed the deal.
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>>171195761
Tell him he's lame.
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>>171195589

I honestly don't think a second playthrough would do much, because it's basically a repeat of the first. It's really only the third where shit gets real.

I think the game could actually be better if routes AB were the same route where you simply switch between the characters at key points. That way the main story would be uninterrupted.
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>>171195359
A decent few. Plenty on /v/ would talk about never having played any taro game and surprised shit went down or wasn't mgr or dmc.

Buddy of mine played Nier1 for 1/4 of the game before the timeskip and dropped it hard cause of the gameplays clunkiness. Bought Automata cause ass and someone told him it looks like it'll play like mgr and now he's in that mopy depression stage like he went through after spec ops or finishing NHK.
He now wants to borrow my copy of Nier1.
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>>171195761
What does 9S carry in that dainty little backpack of his?

>>171195759
No, I think it's super good in English. Because everybody is going to assume it says "fuck" without exploring any other options.

Some of the things in these games become better through localization. Like how great it was in Nier 1 that the lighthouse lady kept calling the 40-year-old Nier "boy". That just made the scene ten times funnier.
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>>171196002
We can only hope one day, all the world can embrace this depression.
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>>171195050
The increase in 2B9S art pleases me.
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>>171196024
>What does 9S carry in that dainty little backpack of his?
Heath items for his love, 2B.
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>>171193148
>But did she change her model to combat model so she could protect 9S herself?
Yes. 9S was never supposed to be able to use weapons. He learned to manipulate swords on his own after discovering 2B was sent to kill him sometime before the game's beginning.
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>>171196024
I assumed since he's in charge of toobie maintenance, it had wrenches and shit in it or something or things to help toobie.
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is there an estimated %chance of an enhanced machine spawning in place of normal?
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>>171196175
Same. I want more art!
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>>171196552
I don't think so. Usually it's pretty consistant. If you're farming memory alloy, try the place you fought adam in the desert. Medium Enhanced Bipeds spawn there.
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>>171196175
>>171196697
We need Red Girl art, we have more than enough fucking 2B/9S stuff
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>>171194930
You're thinking about how much you want to hack 2B aren't you?
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>>171197008
I know, right? She's a qt.
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>>171196901
I'm trying to get the unit data for the enhanced link ball type (drill) to finish up enemy recon.
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>>171196919
1. Red Eye virus
2. The Network
3. Create a new generation of Yorha
4. She hates machines
5. Watchers aint gotta explain shit
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>>171197008
All I have of the red girls is them in the stage play.
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>>171197258
Subs when
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>>171197258
Why are they such bullies?
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>>171197318
Never, since Rekka's pissed that someone put a PDF of her translation on that torrent site.
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Tried the Jap voices after going through A-E in English.

Sorry lads, English is still absolutely fantastic and Nines is superior in ENG. It's bias due to spending more time with it I'm sure but I don't give a hot fuck, I'm glad Automata delivered on Nier's precedent.
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>>171197452
>Girl
>Giving up cause of something so petty

sasuga Rekka
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>>171197534
Jap 2B is much better though.
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>>171197126
Then you should try Emil's Cave or the Copied city where those enemies spawn.
The cave is probably your best bet though.
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>>171197695
Actually I just found out about the amusement park rabbit

I never thought to attack it, should get me to 95%.
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>>171197409
They have nothing else to do.
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>>171197452
Does she have/use tumblr? Theyre pretty anal about having their works reposted on other places there. Which I kind of get because I've seen pixiv artists take down their works and lock down their accounts because people will repost without sources or permission.
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Query: Player, did you cry bitch tears and attempt to sing along at 3am when the chorus hit during Ending E as you got your support from other Players, and you realized what was happening when you got hit?


CAUSE WE'RE G-GONNA S-SHOUT IT LOUD
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>>171197786
You gotta go back to B as 9S to attack it. Kill the robots around the square and the ones on the front set of stairs.

Then Remote hack a nearby robit and take it to the rabbit to hack it. 6ou can only hack it as a robot, oddly.
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>>171198129
I did it on C as A2, you just have to damage it enough to wake it up.
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>>171197786
I only found out cause my lock-on ticked to it once randomly so i just went "huh..." and tried to hack it.
It kicked my organs inside out but still
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>>171197957
She does have tumblr. She spoke about it on her livestream that she was upset.
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>>171198129
Who didn't?
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>>171198386
Wew wrong post reply. >>171198049
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>>171197619
This.
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Is there an /ndg/ sings the weight of the world already happening or planned for the future? I guess we're still waiting for PC bros though. I just wanna sing with you bastards
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>>171198819
I'd do it tomorrow but i plan to be piss drunk elsewhere.
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>>171198819
I proposed on /v/ a while back for '/v/ sings weight of the world'. Someone should make a thread for it over there.
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>>171198819
Only if it's the emi evans version
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>>171162464
They advertized it so much (and got Platinum to work on the gameplay) because EVERYONE who played NieR basically had the same complaints about the game (gameplay first and foremost), yet the since the game became popular in spite of having one of the worst marketing campaigns ever, complete with a trailer that spoiled EVERYTHING in the story, monotonous gameplay when not toying with perspectives and grindy as shit sidequests, so even Square got the message.
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Is Yorha more masculine or feminine?
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>>171188609
I had this occur with the Speed machine quest too, his marker was in that same spot. He ended up spawning properly back in town when I next closed and reopened the game (entirely, not just reloading a save), so try that.
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>>171199478
Is this even a question? It's 80-90% female androids.
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>>171199478
>feminine
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>>171199556
I'm speaking more from a name perspective.

Like I'm getting a new cat soon and I'm thinking I want to name it Yorha.
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>Meet Devola and Popola, distrust them from the word go.
>Fully expecting a fight with them.
>They turn up at the tower, stand as they did in Nier and point their weapons in the same way.
>Then they help.
>Then I see the story.
>Tfw I was prejudiced against them just like the other androids because of the actions of the other Devola/Popola.
>Tfw No one stops.
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>>171199641
That would be a good name for a female kitty. I think it's feminine.
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>>171199689
When I first saw them all smiling in the Preview for Ending C I thought they were going to fuck me up.
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>>171199775
That's what I was thinking too.

Thanks for the opinion!
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>>171199689
>prejudiced against them just like the other androids because of the actions of the other Devola/Popola.

This part I didn't understand. Why would the other androids be like that to them when they were just doing their job in NieR. Heck it wasn't even them at that time.
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>>171191647
1 million hours in MS Paint.
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>>171176550
>>171177340
>>171177305
>>171177085
Did you know you can actually just leave without doing either?

It's heartbreaking but I think you get a chievo for it.
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>>171200000
checked.

damn i really want that nier/drakengard HD remaster. those nier analysis videos by clemps were pretty good and i got most of the references in automata, but i still feel i need to play papa nier's story.
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Why do some of the androids wear blindfolds, while all the operators wear mouth curtains?
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>>171173706
back.


/ndg/ what title should be accompanied with our Route E thread?
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>>171200119
As much as I do to, I actully really don't. Someone in /v/ put it the best:

People are going to play Automata and think of playing the others, and then realize that they aren't fun to play and therefor think that Drakengard is just a bad series.

If they ever, EVER re release Drakengard 1 2 and 3, they need to build D1 and 2 form the ground up gameplay wise, and they need to fucking fix 3.
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>>171200253

[E]mil of course
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>>171200247
they wear blindfolds cause they blindly follow orders
they wear mouth curtains to remind them to only say whats necessary.
command wears no panties cause shes a hot slut who you can't actually fuck but i'd still rub one out between her thighs
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>>171199987
Because the androids have a desire to protect humanity, and the other twins failed to manage the Gestalt project well and that resulted in humanities extinction.
I assume their failure was letting papa/brother Nier kill his Gestalt and not getting muh hoomans back. They were doing their job, but they failed it.

These androids with the same models, names and faces are the type that fucked up and failed to prevent humanities extinction. That's why the other androids hate them so much.
That's a simplified explanation as to how I see it. Could easily be other ways to interpret it.
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>>171199689
Fucking went through this too. Felt awful.

In my defense, I could've sworn the voice that was blaring when the bunker got fucked was either Devola or Popola's voice for a bit.
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>>171200449
Well, I'm not in that majority. I played Yakuza 4 to begin with and went back to play 1. Sure, 1 was a pretty clunky mess but I still enjoyed it.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
This should be in the OPI'm not doing new poll today
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>>171199641
Just name it Bob.
I've never not met a cat who was cool as shit when they were unisexually named bob.
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This makes fucking mad. I already played the game on my ps4 but apparently the Steam version doesn't give credit to platinum? Like at all?....wtf
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>>171200686
>they wear blindfolds cause they blindly follow orders
>they wear mouth curtains to remind them to only say whats necessary.

Is this true?
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>>171200920
Maybe cause it's not out yet
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>>171200119
Those Clemps vids that are posted everytime some lazy boi doesn't want to play the original game aren't terrible, but he criminally doesn't include this full scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hASxrtjPzY
Even after you learn he's alright, the scene still makes me a giant baby.
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Pre-load is up, at least in EU.
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>>171200686
>can't fuck
I have a standing theory they have something akin to anuses at the very least.
Its mentioned they can eat food but that does all of jackshit for them beyond tasting good since they only need water to keep their powercore working cause its plant based and all.
Foods gotta come out somewhere and if they were just vomiting it up you'd think they'd mention that it also causes them to taste vomit even if the food taste good going down.
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so senpaitachi, is sartre's name censored in the japanese dub as well or only in the western one?
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>>171200000
Impressive pents, Nines!
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>>171201347
only in western
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>>171201212
>that icon
So good desu. Will get the steam version too next month.
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>>171201494
so even if you set the japanese dub in a western copy the name isn't blurted out, right?
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>>171200986
No and yes.
Its also symbolic in that they're also blind to the truth of things and the second one figured it out off it comes ans the horse runs wild so to speak.
People like Operators are keen to more knowledge but also have to keep quiet about this so they wear facial coverings as a symbolic "speak no evil".
Big dick that knows it all doesn't wear anything cause she's privvy to the knowledge of it all.
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>>171201584
I played in Japanese and nothing was blurted out.
But I also imported the game form Japan so there might be differences in the versions.
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>>171201040
>>171200920
Checking the games Steam page, the developer seems to be listed as Square Enix.
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>>171201072
he mostly goes over the important bits and I think intentionally doesn't show everything so that people go and play it themselves.
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>>171201740
well yeah, I imported the japanese version as well, that's why I specifically asked about the western one
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>>171200920
I'm not sure if steam allows listing multiple developers or having co-developers.
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>>171199689

I still can't get over how they attack you in Nier and then when you kill one in self defense theo ther one fucking spergs out like it wasn't their own fault.
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>>171194930
>KILL
>FUCK
>HACK
>MAIM
>LOVE
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Can someone summarize the baby water from Drakengard for me? It's been years and I can't remember the details and my friend is interested.
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>>171202203
Eater, I got autocorrected.
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>>171187091
>open toe shoes
>front of the feet elevated
WRONG
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preloading for tomorrow
is there any gameplay details I should know right off the bat or hidden missable items in the first ten minutes so I don't have an autism fit?
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>>171201072
The entire fight leading up to that scene makes me a giant baby

>I understand now why we're twins
>This world is too lonely for one without a soul

Gets me every. fucking. time.
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>>171202185
I unironically think that the english text version works well for the ambiguousness.
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>>171202409
>This world is too lonely for one without a soul

Because they're gingers.
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>>171202203
Maybe your friend should play the game if he is interested in it.
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>>171202203
Arioch was a female elf whi got her family killed by the Empire, went insane and entered a pact with Salamander and Undyne (spirits of fire and water) in exchange for her womb. Therefore she wants to eat children because it's her twisted idea of getting back her close relationship with her children.
That's really all there is to it, she doesen't really get an arc in the game
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>>171202471
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Was it ever explained why Papa Nier put the mask on for the 2nd half of the game? Something that has always bugged me.
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>>171202601

>Arioch wants to eat children
>Leonard wants to fuck children
>Seere is a child forever and ever

Taro I love you.
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Is there a lot of murder in these games? I was told there was murder and despair.
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>>171202720

Isn't it just an elborate eye patch? I presume he got fucked up in the timeskip.

>>171202738

And Caim has no issue killing children.

I don't think you can find a more fucked up subversion of the old band of heroes type trope.
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>>171202740
That's more or less the series mantra.
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>>171202720
we may never know
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BREAK TIME!
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>>171202720
He lost a eye.
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>>171202720
perhaps he was wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane
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>>171202740
A2 stabs everything 9S cares about right before his eyes in most unexpeted moments it's actually funny. I actually laughed after 21O
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>>171192508
It's not like they couldn't just sit around and do nothing about the machines, though, their real mistake was assuming that fighting was the only choice that they had. Now that the machine network is gone for awhile assuming any of them actually survived the war, which is doubtful seeing how the machines compromised their top secret documents, they don't have a reason to keep the fighting going. At least until Jackass and whatever androids learned about what was going on turn up at their doorstep.
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>Finish Ending A
"Well that seemed premature, but surely there's more that will be revealed in subsequent playthroughs. That's ok, I can never get tired of playing as 2B!"
>B playthrough
"Oh. Oh well, surely after this it gets back to 2B!"
"Surely..."
>C/D/E playthrough and endings
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>>171202601
I thought 4 genocided all elves
Isn't D3 a prequal?
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>>171202875
>I don't think you can find a more fucked up subversion of the old band of heroes type trope.

In D3 you had a gurofag, extreme sadist, nympho old man, moron and a baby dragon.

Not sure which was more entertaining.
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>>171203018

2B has the most actual gametime out of all the characters in the game, so you have no reason to be depressed about it. Just play the game again.
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Was it ever explained who the person behind that male voice in the opening sequence giving orders to the commander is?

At that time I thought it was a human but that can't be true
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>>171203018

I'm already bored with Hacking and I've just beat Adam the very first time.
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>>171203121

It's N2's voice
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>>171202928
Fuck you, 9S!
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>>171203057
Hitler genocided the jews and yet you can still find them all around the world.
There are Elves even in the shi ni itaru aka manga which is a direct sequel to Ending A
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>>171203083
I realized that after finishing E and looking at my save files. It took me 24 hours to finish A, and 40 hours total to get to E.

And yet it felt like such a short time compared to the rest. Maybe just the whole time flying by when you're having fun skewing my perspective.
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>Automata speedruns are becoming a thing
What would a speedrun for DOD1 be like? Would it really be anything different from just playing normally?
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>>171203195
makes sense
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>>171203186
Boy, are you in for a ride.
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This is probably a stupid question, but can my Xbox1 controller work with the pc version of this game? Kinda worried it doesn't since the game was made for the ps4 exclusively.
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>>171203381
>Automata speedruns
>die as soon as possible, [w]ings plucked ending

what's the world record, 2 minutes?
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>>171203381

I heard of a brave soul attempting a DoD1 speedrun once.

He did not survive.

RIP.
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>>171203489
of course it does, all modern steam games work with xbox360 and xboxone controllers
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>>171203489
Hasn't been entirely confirmed yet, but someone on the Steam Discussions claims the game only supports X-Input controllers, which is basically Xbox controllers.

So seems you're in luck.
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>>171203571

If you enjoyed old Dynasty Warrior games on PS2, you should love DoD1...right?
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>>171203694

If only it were that simple.
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>>171203195
I don't buy it. They sound nothing alike.
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>>171203896

What makes D1 so horrible then? Because I tried playing D3 recently and it's almost unplayable, running under 20fps at times and when it is running smoothly, it's pretty naff in all honesty, I played it for the unique take on characters and protagonists, shit like Zero punching the Fairy King the fuck out, thatsort of stuff, playing it now is horrible.
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>>171203694
Have you played the game
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>>171204223
The tediousness. The way it plays. The way it feels.
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>>171204223
drakengard 1 is better than drakengard 3 in that it at least runs decently and it's slightly more fun to play, but it's just as dull and it's a huge grind to get all the weapons for the final ending. The dragon levels are slightly more entertaining though.
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>>171204571
Does D3 have bad gameplay?
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>>171204835
The ground sections are Nier-levels of servicable if you can get used to the framerate, but the dragon sections are pretty awful
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>>171204835
it's just extremely dull, what's bad is the framerate and performance, it's basically a powerpoint presentation.
If you want to 100% everything the dlcs make it really easy since they give out an insane amount of money so you won't really have to grind though
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>>171204835
It plays better than Nier while having way worse framerate problems
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>>171204835
D3, gameplay wise, is an okay linear action game, which unfortunately is a genre that has a lot of really strong contenders like Bayonetta it pales in comparison to gameplay wise, with significant framerate issues on top of that.

If you like trashy action games (think Grasshopper, Tamsoft) and have a high tolerance for frame rate problems it's enjoyable to play. I had fun with it.
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>>171205269
>It plays better than Nier

In some ways I feel this is untrue, Nier was unique gameplay wise up til that point in the series, then D3 went back to Dynasty Warriors stuff, I just felt more free in Nier's combat and I missed the bullet hell.
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>>171155720
Pascal doesn't fall back under the Networks influence because he did cut himself off. Even Amnesiac machine.
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>pick game up at random because heard it was a Platinum game with gameplay similar to MGR/Bayo/TF Devastation
>pleasantly surprised by a great story about existence, purpose, futility, and more
>and it has the usual absolutely amazing music most Plat games do

Best random buy of 2017 so far, and 2017's been pumping out amazing games from the start.

It's a fucking crime that turd Mass Effect shovelware shit is gonna outsell this game 20 to 1 and be hailed as GOTY. I fucking hate the game industry.
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The SHMUP sections in Automata can feel pretty legit at times, a little tweaking and they'd be pretty sick.
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>>171205431
It seems like the ones that were dropped off were the ones that came offline over the course of the game, like the BECOME AS GODS bots.
And of course there's no info about when or how the Amusement Park machines were cut offline so that could've been N2 as well. There's only connections to Pascal's village in the form of Sartre who is really a wandering machine in the first place.
Pascal and his villagers pretty much had to go off intentionally unless we had some reason to believe that out of all the machines in the game their memories were the ones that were totally faked.

I would have to rewatch all the scenes again to get a grasp on Ernst and his followers.
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tfw waiting for "Not That I Mind..." to pop for my platinum trophy while sitting in camp listening to The End of YoRHa.
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>>171205945
How do you actually get the sound data items
I've only had the first one the whole game and it's been driving me crazy.
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>>171206059
You buy them, I think.
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>>171206059
One of the stores in the camp when you've beaten the game. I think Devola and Popola's store, but not sure.
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>>171205379
*nudges closer to her boob*
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>>171206059
Buy them from the supply guy iirc
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Wait, they delete your trophies in Ending D?
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>>171164019
N2 was fine with them running things.

In fact the ark plan was inspired by them seeing their struggles and the androids.
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>>171206325
Her boobs are way too big, but it's a pretty picture.
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>>171205620
Did you play ending E?
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>>171205620
the OST has nothing to do with PG
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>>171206481

Will the game explain later on how Adam was spawned from a cluster of robots?
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>>171206553
Yeah but his statement isn't wrong.
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>>171169505
A2 warms up to Pascal pretty well all things considered.
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>>171206551

Yes. Hence the "and more".
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>>171205431
>>171205935

The machines that were cut off from the network and then went crazy didn't just magically go back to the network, they became infected with logic viruses.

Pascal and the others would believe they left the network intentionally because when they were a part of the network, it was the network's will that they leave, so it was also their will to leave it. Notice that Pascal isn't actually sure how or why he or the others were able to leave the network.
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>>171180263
Time travel/parallel universe shenanigans dropping you into different story routes without fully explaining how those changes occurred in the first place.
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>>171206572

It's implied that they were created by fusing all their machine cores together + maybe some of the android corpses laying around the area
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>>171175513
Ending E.

The beginning of Drak[E]ngard.
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>>171181516
I usually agree with the cruel truth over blissful ignorance, but I don't know if Pascal was going to recover from despair that deep.

Maybe things will turn out better with a clean slate after the machine network is dealt with?
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>>171206919
I was just asking because 99% of the people I talked to, that just randomly picked it up and liked it, just played A and a bit of B.
I imagine if you did not expect anything because you don't know Taro, ending E should hit you even harder.
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9S creates Accord.
Calling it.
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>>171207061

And that made an godly immortal Android? Okay.A bit disappointed that the explanation is that base.
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>>171177667
NEET Machine lives.
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>>171206947
In the game it sounds more like they let him leave, rather than they made him think he wanted to leave in the first place. The collective will is a bunch of smaller wills put together and it's something that's independent of the machines managing the network since we had human traits in machines before N2 existed.
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>>171207543

It's not that they made him think he wanted to leave, the fact that N2 wanted him to leave made it so that he wanted to leave. The whole independent will thing doesn't exist when N2 doesn't want it to. N2 literally takes over every machine on the network and strips them of their free will in the final segments of the game.
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>>171202112
>like it wasn't their own fault
Popola didn't ask for the job to watch over Earth fall into decay for a thousand years only to lose the only family she ever had while trying to save humanity.
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>>171163568
Porn comics tell me different sizes. And who am I supposed to believe in? You, or a porn comic?
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>>171205425
you never actually played dinasty warriors if you think that drakengard 3 plays anywhere similar to it
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>>171207320

It's more that the point isn't how the evolution occurred, just that it did occur. Yoko Taro really doesn't care about the details of how things happen only so long as they do happen for the purposes of the plot.
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>>171207952
She is a B cup for 2B!
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>>171202720
>character reason
He may have been scarred or lost an eye during the time-skip.

>narrative reason
Meant to emphasize that time passed with a physical change of appearance.
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>>171186158
He said he wasn't sure if Nietz was insghtful or a loon. His found his stuff interesting because he was unsure.
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>>171207952
Her breasts are actually quite modest. Probably large B cups, actually.
2B literally has two Bs.
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>>171208028

I wouldn't mind if Adam wasn't as powerful as he was.

Though he died like a scrub anyway, a totally meaningless death as well.
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When there are actual androids in the future, what will they think of this game?
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>>171202738
>>171202875
Not to mention that their greatest enemy is a tragic little girl.
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>>171208210
I'm going to buy myself a S-model in the future and we will play the game together. Probably think its stupid.
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>>171208237
So in summary: Children are awful?
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>>171207205
>I imagine if you did not expect anything because you don't know Taro, ending E should hit you even harder.

Yeah, the endings were pretty good all around. Though given all the blatant hints in path A and B I expected shit to get real dark real fast, and wasn't disappointed. E was a pretty good ending, all things considered. Not much could've been better than a fresh start, by that point.
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>>171208368
Yeah, fuck children!
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>>171208195

Adam's combat abilities themselves aren't really anything more impressive than what 2B can do with her pod programs. The most important ability Adam has is the ability to self-evolve and adapt to new situations, an ability that no other machine lifeform except Beepy has had before. Of course, if he wasn't also immortal, he would have died long before he could evolve into his later stages and build that salt city and so on.
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>>171208454
>hello, police?
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>>171205425
Yeah, I think people over-exaggerate about just how bad Nier's gameplay was.

The grinding in the junk heap is bland and repetitive, but I still think the general combat gets the job done, and the boss fight bullet hells have some good moments.
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>>171208623
It's the fucking sidequests that ruined the game for a lot of people. Especially the poorly-explained fishing quest.
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>>171208456
What is an oven, Legna?
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>Die to Ko-Shi+Ro-Shi.
>That fucking moment of dread, wondering if they'll put me back at the start of the gauntlet.
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>>171208623
People also over-exaggerate with Drakengards gameplay, although I attribute that to the fact that it's just a meme at this point because nobody actually played it.
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>>171208701
>It's where human vermin called "kikes" belongs in, mah boy
god damn raimi was involved in videogames too huh?
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I know a lot of the joke endings involve dying in certain situations or battles, but I'm really not going to just run around in chapter select killing myself at random times. Am I a failure of a player if I have to look up the complete list of hidden endings?
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>>171207912
N2 is trying to force things with the logic virus, that's not really the same thing. The machines on the network are protecting the boxes and the tower because if they can't go against their core programming, since that's their purpose in life. That's the reason why N2 was ever conceived.

Additionally, if whoever was managing the network could cut off everyone's free will whenever they wanted, the aliens never would've been killed because whatever they had in place before the evolution occurred would've been able to bottleneck it and there would've been no potential for the betrayal to happen. But they weren't mere machines at that point any more, so they couldn't go back to being slaves to a single mind. Which is all Beepy's fault.
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>>171208456
i'm trying to look for that webum of geralt putting the baby in the oven but I can't.
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>>171177305
I'd like to think that if A2/9S keeps the children's core that it can be restored someday after Ending E, but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.
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>>171208867
I don't consider things like that to be wiki-cheesing, if it is just a trial and error thing and you want to have 100% it should be absolutely fine to look it up.
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>>171208825
Why do they belong in the kikes, Legna?
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>>171208812

I played it! It was one of my favorite PS2 games, but sadly I only borrowed it from a friend and never got to get the final ending.

The gameplay's problem was really just the fact that you had to grind the fuck out of all your weapons to get them to level 4 and on top of that the weapons themselves were hidden through stupidly obtuse requirements. Sitting there on the first level and killing mobs forever just to boost a weapon you're never going to use because it's not Hymir's Finger kills the momentum of the game when each ending has been more exciting and crazy than the last, and you just want to get the final ending but there you are, stuck in the intro level, grinding weapons for literally days on end.
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>>171201642
Except that she's disposable.
>Artbook gives her name as White.
>Jackass is friends with
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>>171208812
Eeeh, It's subjective, but I think the complaints about Draknegard 1 are pretty justified.

At least after having to play through on Normal mode and jumping through the all the ridiculous hurdles necessary to unlock all the weapons. I thought fishing and/or grinding through the junk heap was a pleasant cakewalk after that.
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>>171207912
NEET Son is still a NEET in dead village.
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>>171208623
>Yeah, I think people over-exaggerate about just how bad Nier's gameplay was.

Of course they do. Nier's (original) gameplay was functional. You had two buttons, a couple moves, a block, a dodge roll, a weapon specific special and a bunch of spells. That was totally fine for a game where combat isn't meant to be the main attraction. And while the grinding for materials can go fuck itself, people forget to mention that the grinding, all of it, was just for trophies. No endings were locked behind grinding, the only ending condition was collecting all the weapons. You didn't have to upgrade any of them.

The fishing minigame has also reached meme status by now because as long as you're on the right spot and using the right lure, the fishing is down right easy. I did every part of the 9-part fishing miniquest line with minimum fuss, a few minutes per quest.
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>>171203694
Ha. Haha. HahahahahaHA!
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