/hotsg/ - Heroes of the Storm General

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

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Gazlowe is a ripped, muscular SEX GOD who sweats pheromones like waterfalls and make female heros ovulate within a 1000 miles radius of him. He possesses the ultimate weapon of conquest, which can claim even entire forts without a single turret having to be placed - the Big Gazlowe Cock!

When weak assassin bois see a Gazlowe coming, they naturaly lower their defenses and forfeit in submission, knowing full-well how completely and utterly powerless, frail, in-need-of-fountain, utility pleb wrecks they are in comparison to Gazload and his BGC.

No matter how much you autistic cuckolds here on /hotsg/ bitch and moan, tiering and ranked play dictates that other specialists get weeded out of play by more powerful skilled Gazlowes !

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Arthas is a ripped, muscular SEX GOD who sweats pheromones like waterfalls and make female heroes ovulate within an 1000 miles radius of him. He possesses the ultimate weapon of conquest, which can claim even entire forts without a single mana having to be consumed - the Big Frostmourne Cock!

When weak assassin bois see an Arthas coming, they naturaly lower their defenses and forfeit in submission, knowing full-well how completely and utterly powerful, beefy, in-need-of-mana, frost pleb wrecks they are in comparison to Arthas and his BFC.

No matter how much you autistic cuckolds here on /hotsg/ bitch and moan, tiering and ranked play dictates that other specialists get weeded out of play by more powerful skilled Arthases!

Groom Anub and Bride Zagara when?

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>>171053354
Hammer is FUN

>>171053526
Too bad that requires taking the vastly inferior Hammer Ult.

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Chromie is a small, frail SEX GOD who sweats pheromones like waterfalls and make male heros erect within a 1000 miles radius of her. She possesses the ultimate weapon of conquest, which can claim even entire forts without an opponent entering her sight radius - the Big Bronze Dragon Vagina!

When weak assassin bois see a Chromie coming, they naturaly lower their defenses and forfeit in submission, knowing full-well how completely and utterly powerless, frail, in-need-of-fountain, utility pleb wrecks they are in comparison to Chromie and her BDV.

No matter how much you autistic cuckolds here on /hotsg/ bitch and moan, tiering and ranked play dictates that other assassins get weeded out of play by more powerful skilled Chromies !

>>171052871
>not updating the hero/team league thing
anonnnnnNNNNN

>>171053779
>chromie
>in need of fountain

>>171053910
Hero/Team League Season 3 is basically over. Do your placement matches now if you want some gold and that mount.


Is there anything wrong with this statement?

>>171054073
it IS over
we 2017 season 1 now

>>171053945
Yeah. Assassins need that fountain after getting hit once by her massive sand.

>>171054073
>>171054117
and don't tell me you actually play on EUROPE

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[Yoshi noises intensify]

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>>171054117
it's basically over

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Murky is a small, fish who sweats pheromones like waterfalls and make male and female heroes erect within a 1000 miles radius of her. She possesses the ultimate weapon of conquest, which can claim even entire forts without an opponent entering her sight radius - the Horn of Summon Fish!

When weak assassin bois see a Murky coming, they naturally lower their defenses and forfeit in submission, knowing full-well how completely and utterly powerless, frail, in-need-of-fountain, utility pleb wrecks they are in comparison to Murky and her cloaaca.

No matter how much you autistic cuckolds here on /hotsg/ bitch and moan, tiering and ranked play dictates that other assassins get weeded out of play by more powerful skilled Murkies!

>>171054621
Murky is female?

>>171054706
don't misgender him

>tfw silver in both HL and TL
haha ill do better this season ´_>´

>>171055251
Have you tried believing in yourself?

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I bought a skin, I have officially spent money on a F2P game. I feel dirty.

Help me choose the next hero I buy by ordering these in terms of usefulness /hotsg/

Sylvanas
Arthas
Uther
Chromie
Johanna
Rexxar
Lunara
Valeera

>>171051754
>paki doing anything useful
>ever

>>171055897
Think of it this way Anon:
How much would you have paid for Heroes of the Storm if it was not free to play?
Keep that amount in mind and don't spend more than that in cosmetics and I'd say you are still doing pretty well.

>>171055904
arthas

>tfw really really like the new UI

>been wanting to try Abathur for a while
>completely forget Probiscus is coming out soon and buy Abby
>every game I play Ab, there's always two Probii and the games take 30+ minutes
>always two autistic non-heroes on my team, me as Abathur and a Probidick

Fucking hell man

>>171056293
It's nice innit?

Only thing I don't like is how your name is shown in green.

>>171056123
>tfw still regret the five dollars I've spent on the game

>>171056293
Same. Just wish we were able to page the camera to teammates with a keybind, like F1. Or maybe we can and I just didn't see it.

>>171056123
If it wasn't free to play, it probably would've come with some heroes instead of 1 hero, maybe 2 if you got the referral Jimmy. Changes the question drastically.

>>171055897
at least you bought one of the best skins

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>mfw spent over $120 on this game since open beta and regret nothing

>>171055897
I've spent 16€ on two 30 day stimpacks, one from the nexus bundle or whatever it was so I got a couple heroes too

All that money was from WoW gold though

>>171056595
>First game of the new patch
>Gazlowe, Probius and Abathur on my team

Hahahahaha, fucking kill me. Legitimately considering not playing at all for like two weeks. Every game so far has been full of Gazlowes, Probiuses and Anub'araks, and the fucking Anubs don't know how to fucking play Anub, as if it weren't bad enough aving Probius and Gazlowe on my team.

>>171055897
i only buy those in weekly sale so i won't feel that bad

>>171055904
Johanna
Sylvanas
Chromie
Arthas
Lunara
Uther
Rexxar
Valeera

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Is it me or does the game feel a lot.. dumber after the last update?

>Dumbass Chogalls running around in every match on every team, feeding out the ass with these new bullshit talents

>Probius' trying to be cute and proxy build their turrets which die if you so much as SNEEZE on them

>Probius is literally just another burst mage

>Blizzard's spaghetti is all over the place after their failed attempt at making a Starcraft "builder" hero

>people are literally playing dumber because of all this area denial shitstorming all over the place

I think I'm done for a few weeks.

>>171058896
>Blizzard's spaghetti is all over the place after their failed attempt at making a Starcraft "builder" hero
huh? what happened

>>171058896
the game's been consistently getting worse for a while now

>>171058896
They should have just made him be a full on turtle hero. Like even worse than Gaz. Build build build build. Worthless on his own. I wanted to build a miniature Protess base or something.

>>171058896
>>171059315
>make builder hero
>make it a builder unit from an RTS, a game where you build your bases
>label him a specialist
>he's just a burst mage with a qw combo
>if you go any other build you are clinically ill

>supression pulse has a 50 sec cooldown
is this a joke
am i being bamboozled

>>171059867
oh i was referring to the spaghetti thing not the builder thing
it's blatantly obvious they messed up the builder part

>>171059475
nah dude burst mage

>>171058896
bruh i refuse to que for qm unless i get atleast two of you fuckos in, i had two horrible soul shattering games after the update and im litearlly getting ptsd right now

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Jesus christ this fucking Probius trash is even worse than what we though, seriously the potential of this fucking meme hero is nothing in teamfights and if your tank is fucking garbage you can't do shit.

Murky, Gazlowe are much better than this fucking shit.

>>171060160
zarya hotfix 2.0 soon

>>171059867
What they should have done is made all of his abilities buildings, and made the Pylon be the cap of what you can build in them. Like one Pylon can power two cannons and no more. Maybe another ability could build something that produces units that push lanes.

>>171060216
There's no room in HoTS for a builder hero. They'd either be OP or worthless. Even Gaz builds more as a side effect instead of his main thing.

>>171060216
>Q: Same
>W: Barracks
>E: Cannon
>Trait: Pylon

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who's that

>>171060454
>barracks
its gateway
also maybe add a talent tier for air or robo units

>>171060454
Something like this would work well. Pylons power 2 cannons or one barracks. So you could focus on building turrets and defending objectives, or just pushing the hell out of lanes. Maybe change his ults too. It'd be cool to summon an Immortal and have it defend a point.

Just fucking anything else than what we have.

>>171060216
They're literally never going to change his base abilities, you have to fix his kit with modifications to what's there now.

Only way they can fix it in my mind is moving power off W and making Q interact with EVERYTHING (super charge turrets/pylons).

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>>171060570

is the only reason for chen's brewmaster balance being a talent that its too op at level 1?

>new hero week
>their probius good
>our probius bad
>their arthas good
>our arthas bad
>their chogall good
>our chogall bad
>etc

See you next week

>>171061359
whats wrong with etc?

>>171061359
chogall was already a guaranteed loss but during events it's even worse

>>171061359
I'm going to be honest Anon, if this happens in every single match then there is a possibility that this is just a simple case of ME OOGA TEAM BOOGA

>>171061862

Not every match, but it's obvious when it's a mirror match and their X is stomping and your X is solo bot during objective or some shit.

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Probius' q should have summoned zealots. Two charges and they can gain shields from pylons. Talent could let Probius summon zealots globally at a pylon.

>>171062239

He's a probe though, they don't summon units they summon structures

>>171062283
I don't think building a gateway is super reasonable so just cut that part out. There's no unit in sc2 that credit itself more for the existence of zealots than the probe, so.

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>>171052636
Only for you anon.

>Grandmasters bow to Cho`Gall
>In contact with C`Thun
>Rumoured to possess heroic abilities
>Controls meta with an surging but fair fist
>They placed in the Bronze 5 in under a week
>Own shrines and camps all over the map
>Direct descendants of the ancient ogre blood line
>Will bankroll the first matches of new patch
>The Gho`Gall are in regular communication with the Archangels Tyrael and Imperius, forwarding the word of God to the /hotsg/
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two ogres who will descend upon Heroes of the Storm and will bring an era of enlightenment, unprecedented technological progress and 3vs5 fights with them
>Both ogres said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence in HOTS has only existed deep in Bronze 5
>Playerbase entrust their gold reserves with the twins
>Gul`Dan is rumoured to be an agent of the Cho`Gall
>First Blizzcon designed hero will be Cho`Gall
>You likely have Cho`Gall in your team right now, i know i do
>The Cho`Gall will guide /hotsg/ into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

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tfw mvp with literal easiest hero in the game

>>171062587

Carried by team

You got it because you didn't die and that's it.

So is there a chogall quest out now or not?

Uther buffs when?

WHEN?
H
E
N
?

Gazlowe is my favorite hero, and Probius looks really fun.

Talk me out of dropping 15k on him.

>>171062814

He will be buffed and 10k next week

>>171062587
Chromie won that game for you.
Ming is the worst mage in the game, only good at killing 20%hp heroes.
Big numbers, but 0 impact by herself. Cannot carry games by herself.
If someone from my team first/second pick ming, I know straight away that i have to carry or we will lose the game. Same shit with Gaymane.

>>171062587
>40% win rate
>lol she's soo easy

I don't understand this meme.

Also that looks to have been mostly Chromie, desu.

>>171062841
Doesn't it take two weeks for the price to drop?

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>muradin
>weak solo tank
nice meme
those clutch heals

>>171062587
>3 free low hp resets anytime from chromie
>orb build
lol

>>171062587
>carried by the entire team
>"tfw mvp with literal easiest hero in the game"
Bronze?

I like probius but he's a meme

>>171063767
What did you expect?
A probe hero did you really think he wouldnt be a meme like gaz or murky?

>>171063767
Life is a meme.

>>171063364
this li ming retard didn't need company

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who /shopping for a gun/ here

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>>171063767
>half combo mage
>half shittier gazlowe
>cute drone package

Mixed feelings.

Delete Probius
With Valeera

What talents are good on Probius?

>>171064902
YOU FORGOT PLAYED BY SHITTERS


PROBIUS STOP FEEDING ATGHJTRH?SERKLJYHRSLTNH

>>171062239
>medivh should portal in maiev and leeroy jenkins. epic ulti!
no. you and the other dumbfuck wowtard redditors suggesting shit like zealots and carriers for him need to be slapped into next week

>>171065220
I've been going rift build, because i need to practice landing those combos anyway. Null Gate seems far and away the better ult, because I've yet to have many teamfights where I actually have two pylons in range of the other team, and that slow is so effective it might as well be a root.

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I don't even

Is Probius almost as bad as release Lunara? It feels like it.

This is the worst fucking release week I have ever experienced. I cannot fucking stand these garbage ass Probius and Gazlowe duo queues.

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>>171066248
>it's a probius gazlow cho'gall premade episode

Every QM right now

>Probius
>Chogall
>Tazdingo
>+1

>>171066423
We have two butchers two probes and a chogall in this game, no bingo here.

can tass solo support in gold and plat ?

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>>171052871
>mfw Zul'Jin free week

>>171066590
No

>>171066629
>not a perfect loop

Any drawfags? In dire need of Jaina, Nova, Chromie, Johanna, Sgt. Hammer, and Valeera all having a comfy sleepover together. :3

>>171066590
Uh, only if your composition is almost entirely right-click damage.

Even then you'd probably be better off with something else, even if I've seen the solo Tassadar work it usually just...doesn't.

>>171066797
try reddit

>>171066785
For all I care, that gardener is trimming empty space on purpose.

>>171066823
>>171066712
I miss his pre rework talents

>Cho'gall is still trash

>>171069016
Honestly preferable to him being pick-ban, especially in solo queue.

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>>171053779
Chromie is for innocent sleep overs and rewinding bad chick flicks to laugh at how bad they are. Your allowance of one fuckup has been used and noted.

whats your vs ai mmr guys

How do I build probius?

>>171069983
>over 5000 bot games played across my accounts

Most of them were Training matches, though, before they went ahead and added AFK detection.

Wish it didn't display on total games played, desu.

>>171070316
Wait for the buffs. Don't take the photon cannon talents.

>>171070316
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/probius#o5un

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>>171070316
First you pick Probius.
Then you look at their lineup (a second Probius is guaranteed).
Then you just build it whatever the fuck way you want. Experiment around and pick the abilities that synergize with the abilities that will deal with the enemy lineup the easiest. Probably focusing on you surviving since everyone and their grandma goes after the new character because they're scared to see what he can do if left alone.
Pretty fuckin obvious that you pick your lvl 13 based on how lacking your teamfights are going.
>>171070469
This right here is perfect for any situation.

Is Valeera a good Kael'thas counter or am I just a shit Kael'thas?
She invariably slaps my shit.

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>>171070652
It's hard to kill someone that will burst down 85% of your total hp in under 0.4 seconds.
Or you know, you could just stun her.

>>171070652
Git gud at knocking her out of stealth.

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official end of 2016 list

>>171070786
>Lich King Bolvar on the left
What does it mean?

>>171070849
It means you, as Thrall, needs to make sure you're taking all the brunt force for Li Li as she mistakingly uses you as a meat shield.
But this is okey because she'll totally give you free beer for your troubles.

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>>171053779
fixed image for you

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>>171071851
mfw

>>171070835
I don't know who senjinn is. But I do know that I am better than him.

>>171070835
Literally who: The list

>>171070835
>Subhuman rank doesn't contain TrapGod

>>171072191
It was someone who got carried to r1 during the first season and never played again because he was too afraid of losing the rank.

>>171072798
>being illiterate

>>171072723
you are probably literally who

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Post god tier skins in HOTS

>pic related

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>>171073303
Mecha Dehaka

>>171073412
>>171073303
neither of those are HotS skins at all!

>>171072903
You do realize that rank 1 isn't the same as #1.
Rank 1 is the top 2% of players, I am well above the top 2% of players I was top 100. No BM though

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>>171073303
Probably my favorite skin. I love it.

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>>171070835
>not including the guide master himself

So, how did the changes go for all the heroes?
Any of them OP or complete shit after the patch?
Anyone changed enough to watch out for something?

>>171073848
They're currently ass fucking warriors.

They need to add Bruisers and Tanks as separate classes.

>>171073560
That original ranking system was so weird.

>rank 1 top 2%
Having difficult time believing this one, though. I saw more #1 players than Diamonds.

>>171073929
>they're assfucking warriors
>by buffing them

>>171070652
Be a better Kael. Your stun is a skillshot, hit her with it.

The only time I've had her kill me is when I'm not paying attention to the shimmer. Tends to happen in distracting teamfights.

>>171074409
no, you're literally just too retarded to see on a scale from 1 to 40, how good is this player

>>171074557
..

Pardon?

I just don't recall there being actual players until after you reached Rank 1 at the time.

>>171074708
are you literally retarded

this is now how HL worked

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>more Lucio nerfs

>>171073560
>Rank 1 is the top 2% of players
If you mean rank 1 pre-season, that's not true. It was more like 50% of the player base at rank 1

>>171074964
>the one at fault sits there self comforting instead of actually doing anything
that's Lucio players

>>171074970
It's what I've heard. tldr I am the best player

>>171074964
Lucio nerfs? Where?

>>171074964
i mean, i've been maining him and hes pretty op.
the difficulty is that people are /bad/ at him and it'll make it weird to balance

>>171075513
I know, I just like that kawai nigga, I want to protect his smile.

That and I hate when they nerf any healing because it makes my life harder, once people see there's a healer on the team they become retarded and think they can tank anything.

>>171074964
>>171075513
Lucio's problem right now is
1. Rejuvenescência is wickedly overpowered and rules the late game
2. his heals in general are too convenient for being so mindless, he's like a highly mobile Morales who can target all allies and himself at once for a few seconds and it costs him basically nothing

>>171074802
?

>>171074964
To be expected.

>>171075513
>people are bad at him
Well, no. Top 5 win rate at every MMR and in almost every game. He's too easy/forgiving.

>>171075853
I largely prefer Up the frequency.

>>171076030
Yeah me too, as much as a fuckhuge healing is good people normally don't stay close together for you to heal the full team.

>>171076173
Also Rejuvenescência is ONLY 9% max HP.
Casting Amp it up more frequently equates more heal than that

>a gorillion Orcs in the roster
>only one Forsaken
>only three undead total (sort of)

Who the fuck thought this was OK?

>>171076485
There's 5?

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>>171076485
Green Jesus' chosen people must take over the world

>>171076485

>3.5 orcs
>5 undead
???

>>171076485
There's exactly as many orcs as there are undead, anon. Depending on how you count Arthas and Rexxar, anyway.

>some hero balance changes and mini reworks are denoted in developer commentaries
>Tyrael just gets flat nerfs on top of small buffs here and there
>0 justification, 0 commentary, 0 logic
>Tyrael with a winrate of less than 50%
>nerfed

What did they mean by this?

>tfw MVP a Dehaka in gold bronze

>>171076296
>Also Rejuvenescência is ONLY 9% max HP.
If you take Reverse Amp, it's 12%.
If you take Encore at 20 with Reverse Amp, you can easily get 7 seconds of heal time per Amp It Up, making 21% of max health, on all 5 characters.
You have just added an entire character's healthbar onto your team.

>>171076774
>5 undead
Sylvanas
Arthas
Anub'Arak
?
?

>>171076948
Leoric and Stitches.

>>171076948

Leoric and Stiches

I missed Gul'dan when counting orcs, so it's 4.5 orcs though.

>>171076778
Arthas counts as undead, Rexxar counts as orc

orcs:
gazlowe
rehgar
guldan
samuro
master skin rexxar, variant 3
fel queen chromie
thrall
murky

>>171077547
Gaz, Chromie, and Murky are not orcs.

>>171077592
wrong

>>171076903
Then you don't have Synaesthesia auditiva, which is OP because it's basically a teamwide cleanse every time you cast Amp it up. Note that it also synergizes extremely well with Up the frequency.

>>171077631
>>171077547
wtf

orcs:
Rehgar
Gul'dan
Samuro
Rexxar (half-orc)
Thrall

That's all.

Gazlowe, Cho'gall and Zul'jin could count as almost-orcs since they were in the orc army in Warcraft 2, but they aren't orcs

Murky is a fucking murloc, there's nothing in common with orcs
Chromie is a fucking dragon, nothing in common with orcs either. Even with her (hideous) fel queen skin, she's not an orc at all, she's just a fel corrupted dragon; it is neither canon, nor well-made, nor orcish in the slightest way

>>171077683
>needing a cleanse for allies when all hard CC is coming at you
sounds like a QM king talent at best

7 - sonic amplifier
16 - rejuv will always outheal bring it together, even if you have only squishies on your team

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>>171077547
Full orc team is actually a decent comp too

>tfw all hyped up to play probe when it was first revealed
>see how he plays on PTR
>don't even buy him now
What's the next hero?

>>171077831
Darkness

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>>171077795
>hideous

TAKE THAT BACK

>>171077808
>all hard CC is coming at you
Nah, that's impossible. You will not always be in range of all enemies, and your allies will. Also, the enemies know that it requires a whole-team effort to kill you. An aoe cleanse with less than 10 sec CD is absurdly overpowered even if the enemy team tries to focus you.

>>171077909
Charlie Murphy?

>>171077830
Any comp with Rehgar is extremely powerful.

>>171078054
Rehgar
TLV
Medivh
Abathur
Probius

Good luck, have fun

>>171077795
>not liking semen demon skin

I wish I could just blacklist certain heroes in QM so I would never have to play with Valeera players again.

There has to be some scientific explanation for why all of them are fucking retarded. I hope Blizzard never releases a stealth hero again.

How do I Sylvanas?
She seems extremely good at fucking up structures and capturing Mercs but so hot at actually killing enemy heroes.
Am I doing something wrong or is that her role?

>>171078313
she's p solid in a fight. esp after she gets the vuln on her dagger and silence ult.

She puts out sustained teamfight damage with some of the best of them. Not Valla level but she's solid nonetheless at doing damage.

>>171078196

NEXT HERO
D2 Assassin Stealthy
Followed by
Sombra from Overwatch
Followed by
Tosh

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>>171078131
>>171077950
more like "overdesigned vomit-colored skin". This edgy theme and her absurdly huge horns completely break her character and cute face. When I look at it, I literally see pic related. I really can't accept the "semen demon" denomination.

>>171078420
>implying the next Overwatch hero won't be Mercy

>>171078762
not him, but it's the same to me anyway, both are garbage characters

>>171078828
>implying implications

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>mfw bullying all these probes with Chromie

>every queue takes 400+ seconds
>lose all of them

>>171076786
Imposing Will is good against AAs, that's a no no for a magic tank.
Same reason Johanna as anti-AA tank lost spell shield.

Arthas gets to keep his anti magic shell tho :)

>>171079349
>Arthas gets to keep his anti magic shell tho :)

Of course he does, he is the goddamn Lich King, he's supposed to be damn near unstoppable.

>>171076786
Tyrael's shit winrate has to do with everyone picking him hoping to get that super clutch sanctification that makes it into some montage video.

By nerfing him the way they did, they push him to be used more in the match-ups where his winrate isn't as godawful.
Presumably anyway, but who the fuck knows how this will turn out.

Imagine for a moment that the people at Blizzard were great at balancing their games (I know, I know, just bear with me for a little)
Would you be opposed to having different skins with different stats, talent variations and so on?
Assume said skins could be obtainable with Gold too.

>>171079934
Fuck no.

>>171079934
Why not just go with a rune system like LoL and leave skins to be just cosmetic.
Bad idea, either way.

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>try to play probius all day
>literally just feed my ass off, even after conceding to a w build instead of an e build
>get into an argument with my pal about how shitty nova is or isnt
>sort of tense as we finish out these hots games where I'm playing like absolute garbage
>just go to bed after staying up an extra hour trying to get one single win on probius

I know it's my fault and there really isn't anyone else to blame but I'm so fucking frustrated and bummed out

>>171080713
Why can't blizzard just bite the bullet and lets us have more than one cannon.

Probius is just another one of "those" heroes, like Abathur, Gazlowe, Nova, Stitches, Cho'gall to an extent, where you just hope they A) Know how to play them, and B) Your team knows how to work with them or flat out just compliment them with picks, otherwise he's dead weight and incredibly useless, and you're now at a disadvantage.

We already have enough of those. Thank you. Please stop. We're good on those.

>>171081389
>know how to play them
nobody does
>your team knows how to work with them
nobody can
>compliment picks
none exist

he's just garbage, total fucking garbage

>Team appears to fill our 2man premade to 5
>Chogall and Probius

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>a hero thats useless for the first half of the game

great design blizz

>>171082910
But we've had Azmodan for awhile.

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>>171082910
>a hero thats overpowered for the first half of the game
great design blizz

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what hero is your comfort pick hotsg

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>>171083001
>the best hero in the game

>>171082987
azmo's early game is poor until he levels up a bit. mid game is just about 7-13, maybe 16 talent. During that time many structures will still be up and Azmo can abuse his talent spikes on them and his level 10 on heroes.

>>171083083
at this point it's probably valla
i rely on her way too much though, gotta branch out or something

>>171083083
Zul'jin. I've gone on two 6+ win streaks with him in the last like 4 days. Used to be Gazlowe back in the day, then it was Nazeebo, now it's Zul'jin.

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>>171083083

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>>171083083
Used to be tassadar until blizzard took him out back and raped him. Now it's pic related.

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>>171083154
And speaking of Zul'jin, I can't tell if there's a chance they'll ever add his WoW appearance as a legendary skin or not. You would think they'd feel like there's no fucking way they COULDN'T do it, but I feel like the fact he'd only have one arm would make them feel hesitant to.

>>171083083
Ragnaros.
The option to just stop thinking and throw lava everywhere is refreshing.

>>171083125
>azmo's early game is poor until he levels up a bit
yeah until level 10 that was the point

>>171083083
Tassadar, archon build. Once I hit 20 I like to see if I can just stay in the one archon cast for the rest of the game. I usually can.

>>171083527
They might go with one that's themed after that, but I doubt they'll ever lop off his arm. Just seems like that'd be more trouble than it's worth.

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>>171083083
delet this blatant anti-paki propaganda

Why is everybody on /hotsg/ so bad???

>>171084715
No one here actually plays the game. This thread is purely for shit-posters.

>>171070786
>dat Li Li face
Somebody didn't get the memo that Li Li is a panda, not a raccoon or weasel.

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>they reverted nova's recolour
new recolours confirmed for progression 2.0

>Tfw no one wants to play Cho'gall

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>>171062587
>Implying my Mosh Pits didn't help with giving you stationary targets to throw your space ball at

Fun games though! Need to 4 Warrior sometime again.

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>>171087298
>9 deaths

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>mfw an assassin was 3 seconds near me

>>171088009
>twf when you root their squishies with frost wyrmfu
>then again with your ice
>then again with your frost aura
Pop
Pop
Pop
Watchin' dem shitters drop

im doing full random auto select guy
ive won one so far
how brave am i

>>171088479
Rolling with the possibility of getting a good hero isn't as brave as knowingly picking a bad hero

>>171088009
>>171088435
>They can't break through your ridiculous healing
>They can't DPS because of the attack speed slow
>They can't survive your slow yet consistent damage
>They can't get away

Arthas truly feels like creeping death now.

>>171083527
Considering his attack speed with only 1 arm throwing axes at double the speed would look absolutely retarded

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>>171087879
That's why I'm Bronze 5, baby!

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>>171088479
When will auto select random guy get his own anime?

>>171089267
Still gets kited super easily though. His Valla and co. matchup has been improved, but it's still not good.

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Threadly reminder.

I want to die

>>171091059
Same...

*sigh*

Saaaame....

Haven't played yet but looking at kinkbug's talent E seems the way to go.
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/anubarak#k_us#

Alternatively w but I don't see when that one would be better. http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/anubarak#kb0Y

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>Probius is basically a shitter mage and not a true meme character
>has fuck all health despite this

???

Why do retard Rexxars take easy prey on 1 over bird of prey?

Every other Rexxar I see with that garbage, don't they realize it's shit? Especially on Braxis why would you ever take it

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Never done one of these before.

Don't you just hate it when dumbfuck teamates start spam pinging you for no reason? Thank god I leave allied chat disabled so I dont have to listen to whatever nonsense they're probably spewing out.

>>171083083
Butcher. Focus begin game on safe ganks and minon farm for early quest completion. Rape mid and late game.

>>171093145
I hate when some random faggot in qm tries to take lead by pinging where everyone should go constantly. Needs to fuck off it's fucking qm.

>>171092170
>mage has shit health
STOP the press
W o W
i fucking had a revelation reading that.

>>171093348
Pretty sure he has lower health than every other mage. It's significantly low, and his kit doesn't really make up for it.

>>171093584
Higher movement speed
Wards
Slows

It absolutely does make up for it.

>>171093584
You get free extra life with shields, and even more shields in pylon range

>>171092170
>>171093348
>>171093584
>he actually has worse health than Nova
hahaha who designed this shit

>>171062476
It's shit.

>tfw nearly dropped 13€ on trash because I like the probe design

Well probius is fucking useless. He is literally poor mans chromie. He can slow you, but less and less frequently than chromie except chromie can also deal massive damage to an entire team from across the map

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>tfw your team loses every teamfight but still wins because Azmodan's demon lieutenants are freepushing and their elite herokilling squad is too busy killing you to stop them

>>171057157
i only purchased the $2 raynor bundle to get that cutie billie
holly shit billie's cock feels so good inside of my heroes

>>171083428
>tfw my favorite ult is the time rewind but i also take the reduced damage dragon blast talent because chromie who can dragon blast one per 13 seconds is useless but the reduced damage makes the time loop useless so i have to take the boring sand slow which is useless till level 18

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Someone give me a quick patch rundown.

What heroes are shit now?

What heroes are viable now that weren't?

How is Gazlowe/Cho'Gall?/Arthas?

>>171095341
>pylons last forever
>but on a 14 second cd with no way to reduce it
>turret lasts 11 seconds
>but on a 15 second cd with no way to reduce it or increase how many you can place
>have 2 charges of an aoe on low cd
>but they take over a second to activate so anyone with a brain can just run out
>can fire a single bullet that has a low cd and can pop the aoes
>but it has an extremely small hitbox so you need sniper accuracy and need to hit with both the bullet and the aoe to do any meaningful damage
>both bullet and aoe need to be used together or both skills are trash
>an ult that requires having your low health long ass cd pylons up to use and requires at least 2 hitting an enemy to be a real threat
>an ult that is basically a tass ult copy but without actually stopping people
When I first saw his abilities I had assumed he would be a lane defender against pushers and mercs. I like him, but he needs a buff.

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Are there any physical spells? For example Q and W on Valla. Is that magical of phys. dmg?

>>171095907

>What heroes are shit now?
Tyrael

>>171096464
AAs are physical.
All spells that directly mention numbers deal spell damage.
Stuff like Windfury and Double Strike might count, as they are abilities that "deal" AA damage instead.

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Ask the best Probius in NA anything.

>>171095907
There's probius, a robotic floor mat for the enemy team to wipe you up with
he's bad

>>171098571
>Probius is bad
Noob detected.

>>171098729
I'm the best player here I'm anything but a noob

>>171095907
>How is Gazlowe
BAD. Some of his best selections were nerfed, and now his design is kinda confused. Gazlowe will struggle to find a place from here.
>Cho'Gall?
MIXED. He's less vulnerable to % damage and healers help him more but has to flicker between offense and defense. So long as Gall doesn't screw the duo over, they should come out a little better than before.
>Arthas?
GOOD. Abilities made more streamlined and impactful.

>>171099219
His new teamfight sustain is fantastic tho.

So when does Gul'dan get a second heroic?

>>171100904
When huge AoD DPS beats crowd control

>>171101042
>huge dps
>have to stand still and hope you even hit the enemies

>>171099078
but im the best player here wtf

>>171101347
The area on it is fucking huge. I didn't know it was a channeled ability. That does make it a lot less worth, the damage still stands though.

>>171101347
Would each meteor being an infernal help?

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Nullification Wall is best ult, turret plyons are shit until cannons are pylons are significantly buffed.

>>171102081
no

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>Melee Specialist

M E L E E
E L E E M
L E E M E
E E M E L
E M E L E

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>blizz releases hero
>its overtuned
>FUCKING JEWS BLIZZARD MAKING OP HEROES FOR MONEY REEEEE

>blizz makes hero
>its undertuned
>YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG SHIT DEVS THIS HERO IS SHIT BUFF EVERYTHING NOW REREEEEEE

>>171102081
THAT
ASS

>>171102274
I haven't complained about a hero release since Zarya's week one buff catapulted her into the 75%+ winrate.
I did think release Ragnaros Lava Wave was overtuned but I knew it'd get the exact nerfs that it did (30% less damage and +20s cooldown) so I wasn't worried.

>>171102274
>blizzard releases balanced hero
>gee this is nice I wish other releases were like this

>>171103391

This never happened

>>171103391
>>171103647
I didn't see anyone complain about Greymane on release.
Then they went and nerfed his flask build because it wasn't the build they wanted to be successful. Shitty devs.

can the artanis use his swap to pull enemies through the force fields so i can trap them in our fort?

>>171103807

Im laffing at you right now

>>171101347
>>171102007
>Less meteors, but each one summons a high DPS infernal that starts rampaging in the area until five seconds after the cast ends
>Gul'dan gets a Jaraxxus skin that makes him yell INFERNO every time you cast it.

Make it happen.

>>171103807
Because you weren't actively paying attention to complaints back then.
Everyone was bitching about Greymane's "I just murdered your supports, assassins, maybe a specialist, and brought your warrior down to half health" ult up until that got nerfed like three times.

Is blizzard running out of heroes?
Probious was a generic robot probe and they even said he was and they only given him personality when they put him in nexus, so technically he doesn't even belong to starcraft lore at all
It's like taking butcher and putting him into the game as a little grill healer

>>171103807
I wasn't here for GM's release. I started playing 2 months ago

>>171073560
>Rank 1 is the top 2% of players, I am well above the top 2% of players I was to
Factually wrong. You are plat at best.

>>171104645
they haven't nearly ran out of heroes, but they've long ran out of competence

>>171062970
I carry as ming, can wreck any squish and never gets caught out herself. Git gud.

>>171104394
I was definitely paying attention at the time. It wasn't that big of a rumble.
And Li Ming followed by Xul showing up immediately after made everyone for quite some time.

Oh, now that I think about it, nobody seriously complained about Dehaka either. Dehaka was just sort of accepted as middling at the time.

>>171104645
How is taking a normal unit and cutting a character from whole cloth to fit its theme in any way similar to taking a boss and turning it into something nothing like itself? It's not even the first time they've done this. Look at Lunara, Brightwing, Morales, and Hammer.

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>>171083527
when did Zul'jin grow tusks?

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>Be in Booty Bay Chest Extravaganza.
>Off doing merc camps.
>Li Li and Valla go to turn in some dosh.
>Valla gets blown the fuck up.
>Li Li's booking it with a single coin to her name.
>Tears streaming down her face, she only wants to heal the world.
>You have just enough time, health, and mana to potentially scare her pursuers.
>You can tell at the very least she's trying to hand off the coin to you when she gets pounded.
Do you help her or leave her to certain death?

>>171105092
They're ornamental.

>>171069904
>Chromie's death screams
She sounds like she doesn't understand she's actually dying.

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>>171104687
I thought the picture was the best players not just a list of cool people, which is better imo. An actual tier list would have me on top.
As for rank 1, I know this. I was saying rank 1 in season 1 isn't anywhere close to my rank in season 3

>>171098382
why do you play qm?

>>171104645
Star craft doesn't have that many notable characters so they made up some shit. I think its good to mix things up once in a while. Despite the fact I'm still waiting on lots of notable warcraft characters still.

>>171105251
>still no Duke or any of the cucks in WoL
wew lad

So next hero should be diablo character since we haven't had a new one in half a year.
Who do you think it would be?

>>171105645
Deckard Cain, Malthael, or Aiden

>>171105251
>Star craft doesn't have that many notable characters so they made up some shit
It baffles me how they invented a literal whos instead of Horace Warfield, Stukov, Fenix or even fucking Karax.

But nooo, fucking SERGEANT WHOMMER and a fucking PROBE

>>171105645
We just had a SC character, the next two dozen new characters will be from Warcraft.

>>171105809
Malthael maybe, the other two never ever.

>he picks wailing arrow instead of mind control
>he picks acheron instead of force wall
>he picks metamorphosis instead of the hunt
lol

>>171105183
My inborn nature of trying to be the savior means I'd help Li Li in your greentext.

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>>171105190
Yeah I was wondering the same thing.
http://i.imgur.com/Qg33Jbi.png

>>171106142
Hunt is good on maps like Blackheart's Bay where you want to splitpush and instantly dive on the enemy team, easily the fastest global engage, considering ETC stuns himself for 2.75 seconds

>>171105645
A Blacksmith, with every blacksmith in the Diablo series being a skin for them.

>>171106142
ty for the info bronzie

>angel and demon locked in eternal battle
>said battle consists mostly of them meekly shooting fireballs at each other every 3 seconds

Pretty disappointing desu

>>171106883
USE YOUR FUCKING IMAGINATION
REEEEE

>>171106883
They do that cool midair clash thingy though.
It was stunning when you first saw it.

>>171106883
They don't fight while being observed. When no one else is looking they really go at it and fuck each other up

>>171107041
>>171106883

>tfw didn't notice the giant tortured demons off the top left of the map for like a year

>>171106883
>>171106916
>>171107041
>>171107125
>>171107158
>Eternal battle isn't both the angel and the demon switching between shooting fireballs and mid-air sword clashing melee combat in the middle (where they can still take damage)
Wasted potential 2bh

>>171106883
Now you can understand why Inarius and Lilith run to Sanctuary

>>171107282
Hot demon tiddies and glorius angel cock?

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who hyped for raptor mounts this season

Do the people who already own Cho'gall not get a quest with gold reward like last time? Why should they bother to play with people who don't own him?

>>171108278
Its an event only for people who don't have him. There is no gold this time around just the character. Still pretty shit.

How much of Anubs QM win rate is due to lots of Chogalls getting cacooned?

Also, is Tyrande the best hero to play to boost QM mmr right now? She's really too strong in the quasi support division.

>>171105092
That's not a scarf.

>>171104156
Yes.

>>171108478
Anub had a really strong winrate already also his best winrate is with Locusts not Cocoon

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whats the point of the /vg/ channel if nobody is in there?

>hear Arthas is good now
>pick Frozen Wastes
>team fight
>BING BING BING WAHOO
I don't even care if it's useful or not, I'm addicted to that sound.

>>171105217
>you on top
Nice try. I've got gm crowns every season and imma hit it tonight.
Would of done it yesterday, but I was sick as fuck.

>>171109015
>wanting to talk with the people that would join a /vg/ channel

>>171109781
Oh wait, you could get #1 NA today and it would count the same as getting #1 say 2 months into the season when actual good players are playing?
Fuck that's retarded

Frost Wyrm Arthas or Crown Prince Arthas /hotsg/?

>>171109951
Not really. There's honestly more good players playing at the start of the season.

>>171105217
>>171109781
>>171109951
>>171110078
No one gives a fuck

>>171110078
Didn't mean to hit post, what you're really missing out on is the grind. Several hundred games of it, infact. My Winrate tends to go from 55% to 60% as the season goes on. Before divisions, when it was just rank 1 I held 65% fairly easily, lot of bad players.

>>171110181
Threads dead enough to care. Not like it's role-playing.

>>171110078
I've played league of legends for years and know that it's a compete clown fiesta for the first few weeks. People get thousands of points into challenger, rank 1 in a week, and try to sit on their points until they slowly drop down to their actual rank.
To get GM right now all anyone has to do is hit masters, and that's a piece of cake.

>>171110430
>ribbit when new season starts
>daily "I got master/challenger AMA" thread
>check back a few weeks later
>d4, 0lp

Every time.