/dadg/ - Darkest Dungeon General

Dead gen until more Crimson Court info?

>>170844421
It's kinda pointless to put it to that with how soon things are coming out. No reason we can't just keep up some casual discussion until then.

>idiots say highwayman is the least useful hero

Those opinions of shitters never fail to amuse me.
Finished Stygian with 2 deaths in DD4 and HWM is my favorite damage dealer for any dungeon.

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>>170844542
So what are you all doing in the mean time? I'm trying to kill all the bosses so I can finish off DD quests properly. I'm taking my time playing through the game but I wish half of the time there were quests worth doing but as it stands, I have most of the trinkets I want and almost everything maxed out.

Didn't realize I would be burnt out before hearing anything about CC. It's been way too long.

would you rather heal Compulsive or Egomania with a free sanitarium use?

>>170844965
I'm playing Stygian mode and find myself in a bit of a quandary. I'm not even half way through the mode and I've got plenty of level 5s, so I'm not worried about time, but I don't want to spend time and money on champ dungeons or bosses. I don't think my teams are quite ready for DD though because I don't have enough deeds for full level 5 equips yet. So I'm debating how much time and resource I want to risk to get it all together. Anyone else playing Stygian have this problem?

>>170844965
I wanna finish the game at least on normal mode before crimson comes out. I have like 19 heroes on lvl 6, about 130 something weeks into the game, and beat every boss under lvl 5 except swine god.

For some reason im just super reluctant when it comes to actually fighting the bosses and doing the darkest dungeon.

>>170845526
Right along side you, grown too attached to my heroes to risk using them.

I've gotten better recently, done half the champ bosses and Vvulf, as well as gotten almost all the Ancestor trinkets from long champ quests. But still coming up with excuses not to set foot in DD or champ Weald

>>170845873
Oh for some reason im not all that attached to my heroes, I've lost plenty good ones over the past months of gameplay, but for some reason I just super avoid the bosses.

Maybe I should just get on with it. Stop being such a little bitch.

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I dragged this fight longer than I expected.

Just met my first Virago. Thank god for GR crits cause my Leper and BH were not prepared. Lesson learned

Is there a link to the kickstarter stuff, like art our soundtrack? Want to check those out.

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Oh cock

You know what

Fuck it. Im gonna do it. Its only a lvl 1 shambler. Worst case I can try to run and get wiped.

>>170849912
You should do it after completing your quest. It's only a few steps away.

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>>170849912
He lived on death's door while afflicted against a 4 turn buffed clapperclaw.

Based fucking manatarms.

Not mad about the other bounty hunter, he was lvl 1 anyway.

>>170850541
of course I did.

>>170844734

That's cos he was complete trash until the Antiquarian update, and now he's still only useful for his melee abilities.

He's not bad but he's still only half a hero. At least he's not Crusader.

>>170844965

Trying to do Stygian, but i'm gonna speedrun it like that guy who finished the game in 18 weeks.

>>170845439
Compulsive imho

>>170845439
Egomania only affects a total of four curios while Compulsive affects all of them.

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>When you get dicked by the collecter

Better overconfidence my ass out of there. I just got the shrieker's prize quest also, what do I take on it?

>>170853347
Bandaids
Kills the nest first

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>>170853347
hoooooooly fucking shit thats a lot of stuff. But i thought the shrieker gave you back your trinkets?

God damn he hurts, almost got him though, got him down to about 30 hp. Got lucky with my houndmaster, bless you rngesus.

>>170854683
I got a little bit of everything cause I didnt know what to expect.

>>170854819
Is it worth locking corvid's eye on said houndmaster?

>>170854950
+ACC and +Scouting right? I locked mine in ASAP

>>170855134
Then I made a good choice. God rid of slowdraw alongside it too.

I hoped I'd get corvids eye on my arbalest though, but I supposed HM is good enough.

>>170854950

If there's a "Top 5 quirks" then Corvid's Eye and Corvid's Grace are in there. It's one improved regular quirk + a unique quirk in one slot, and you can only get them in that rare Shrieker encounter.

Absolutely no reason you shouldn't lock them.

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It really bothers me that the pelagic enemies all have visible eyes. I do like the touch of the shamans wearing the tiara though.

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>>170857014
But Anon, if you think about it,
All the really alien/monstrous things have visible eyes.
Eyes are a symbol of the Thing's influence in earnest. [/spoiler.]
Look ALL around in the Darkest Dungeon. Look at all those eyes.

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Just fucking did the third Darkest Dungeon level and FUCK THE FUCKING FAGGOTY FUCKING TELEPORTING CUNT. I was about to kill him and the FAGGOT teleported my party T H R E E FUCKING TIMES. Everyone's dead because of that stupid fucking spell. I hope whoever thought that was a good idea dies in a car crash.

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Rank from best to worse class you'd want to share a campfire with.

>>170862570
Best: GR. snuff it up and fuck.

>>170862570
Religious camping skills in a party with 2 or more religious characters are fucking bananas.

>>170862562
>he didn't bring a plague docter

>>170862570
Houndmaster best camper. Doggo protects you from monsters while you sleep, scouts the dungeon, and licks your face to remind you why you're fighting.

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>>170862570
Best tier: Jester
Runner Up: Highwayman and Grave Robber
Okay tier: everyone else
cuddling with leeches tier: Plague Doctor

>>170864435
>You get picked on for mockery

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>>170864582
>it's another Jester telling nonstop Leper jokes episode

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>>170862938
I'll take the backdoor, anon ;)

>>170862938
Snuffing seems a bit shady for a lady like that.

>>170871993
She's a shady lady.

>>170872158
This is very true. PD doesn't seem super clean either.

dazed

REELING

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About to BREAK

Anyway is mod support added yet/soon? Havent played and checked the general in a while.

>>170880841
From what I've seen on steam I'm estimating it's gonna be ready in the next two weeks.

>>170878880
>>170879953
a boat to break

damn i still need that fucking shambler map trinket and im already at week 120 kek

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Post your shitty game ideas for Darkest Dungeon anons.
> New Champion Ruins enemy with high dodge (semi-similar to Shrieker's) that absorbs and adds onto himself corpses to increase it's size, hp, damage and move set. At the cost of losing it's dodge and speed.
> New defense missionc in an area, where it takes place in a single room and you begin to fend off wave after wave of enemies that get increasingly difficult until you fight a New Boss. There are camping breaks however, to ensure your party doesn't get completely fucked.
> Weald Broodmother boss, that covers the entire map with alot web traps (which only just apply a slow debuff but no damage) and if they catch someone, you engage combat with her or a group of spiders.Once she's low or when it's turn 4 she immediately retreats back to the Boss Room to massively regenerate health, buying you more time to explore the dungeon and activate traps without getting engaged upon by her but you will still get attacked by normal spiders.

>>170881972
>enemies that do nothing but stall the fight by gradually lowering your acc to 0 so you have to retreat from them

Would actually teach ppl that there is a retreat option

>every ~10th attack is a massive crit so you cant use them to heal up

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>1 damage away from one-shotting HoD

>>170844965
I just made a ghoul variant with a mouth in the chest, he maggot carrier, it's attacks spawn maggots that gain bonuses agains bleeding targets, it also can inflict 2 new illments, gangrenous necrosis and septicemia.

>>170884421
Damn son how'd you manage that?

>>170887443

Leper with +damage amulets, stacking revenge and PD buffs on him, some decent quirks and then landing a crit

>>170887638
Oh neato, I'll need to give that a try sometime.

>>170884421
Difficulty?

>>170891532

Hardest.

>>170891765
Good man

>>170881972
I like the alternate map boss idea. reminds me of the later DD missions and throws in some added variety to places we've seen before.

So I'm just starting out and I'm not sure what do do with attacks that move your party around. It seems like some of the moves that have this effect are really useful and can help you with when you get surprised, but others are for classes where you usually wouldn't want them to move and it feels weird to use them. Any advice?

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>Finished DD1 with houndmaster, occultist, PD, and bounty hunter
>Prepare for my first foray into DD2
>No idea what the fuck i'm going to do
>Assume that the talismans of the flame are referencing some sort of powerful attack by a new enemy, and since there's three, I can only assume you need to guard or protect one of your party members who aren't using the trinket
>Bring MAA, Leper, Arb, and Occ
>Buy literally all the food, holy water, antivenom, and bandages available
>Panicking because I can't use my good trinkets and have to choose the most important ones for each class to bring along
>Start up the mission and realize I didn't buy torches, even more stressed due to the possibility of this being a massive fuckup
>Manage to equally maintain stress with careful use of campfires, but my Arb becomes afflicted
>Occ gets a resolve check
>Stalwart
>MAA gets one
>Stalwart
>take time healing up and stunning the remaining templar when I kill his allies to prep for the next battles
>Finish the dungeon my first try, relatively easily, probably would have still been A-ok even if everyone became afflicted

Such a fucking satisfying, successful feeling, boys.

Also, the endgame in this is really satisfying. I feel really tense, I guess it's the fear of the unknown and each new iteration of the darkest dungeon being differently dangerous and filled with things you don't know how to prepare for, knowing you could lose your A team, but you'll carry back the knowledge of how to better perform next time. Also the whole atmosphere of things, as well, and the new ancestor dialogue.

>>170884987
Are you making a variant mod pack? Sounds fun desu

>>170900615
The bigger the risks and the stakes, the bigger the satisfaction. The soundtrack at the end really helps.

>week 32 Stygian
>Guild 66%
>Blacksmith 84%
How am I doing lads?

>>170902421
Skills are much more important.

>>170902503
Skills are not more important. The most important thing is upgrading your weapons

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>Tfw mastering long champion dungeons

Haha holy fuck anons, every long run brings in about 80 crests, and 20-30 of a couple other heirlooms.

My inventory each time is literally just all heirlooms, this is ridiculous.

>>170904575
For each weapon upgrade is a small jump in dmg and crit. Upgrading skills become more important so they count for every time you use them. Compare being able to do 1-3 more dmg with a stun that never fails or upgraded heal that lets you survive a attack with 1 more hp. Upgrading certain skills give accuracy and crit boosts on top of that. Upgrading party buffs give them better potency to make them worthwhile and usable. Take into account that you don't have the trinkets you need to make certain skills much more than usable at early game like HM's baton, jester's stress heal, PD's vial, occultist's incense, leper's forunate bandlet (you shouldn't use him until after you get a ACC trinket through) or adom's restraining/dmg locks.

>>170905082
Welcome to the Got Gud club.

I know I'm late but I just got this on Vita and I'm feeling pretty overwhelmed, everything is pretty close to pushing my shit in, is this normal?

Also, I just barely beat the collector, is that a boss or a normal enemy?

>>170906214
The Collector is a regular mob, at later levels you fight 4 of them at the same time and they each summon 3 heads. The screen actually adjusts/zooms out to accommodate them all, it's very intimidating.

>>170906354
Shush you. Don't spoil the surprise.

>>170906214
It's normal at first. The entire game is about risk management, and pushing the rng in your favor.

The Collector is a miniboss of sorts that appears randomly sometimes when your inventory is partially full of loot, I think.

Some general beginner's tips i can give you would be something like:

-Feel free to dismiss low level people who pick up bad quirks, and become afflicted if they don't have any money put into them through armor and skill upgrades
>Don't everbe afraid to run from fights, and missions as a whole, if it means saving a good hero, or one you spent a lot of money on
>Always being a little bit more food than you think you'll need. if you're doing medium or long missions, keep in mind the requirements for having a feast for the when you camp, so you can restore health and stress easily
>Bring one person with a campfire skill that negates nighttime ambushes, trust me, they'll fuck you over HARD sometimes
>learn that the curious you encounter in hallways and in rooms
>Scouting is incredibly useful, it lets you see traps, predict what's coming and set routes accordingly if you need toa void a fight if your team isnt doing well, and lets you chart out secret rooms. it als entirely prevents you from being surprised, even at 0 light
>Buy more supplies than needed, learn what locations need what supplies for the curios and enemies/ status effects contained therein
>Target the backline stressers right away. You can heal damage easier, but stress is more difficult to deal with, and can result in affliction checks which can add on to the piling stuff which will screw up your runs
>Generally try and run teams with good synergies, people who can attack from most spots no matter what their formation, people who can stun, etc.
>Healing isn't always the best course of action, and you may do better to try killing the enemy first and heal when you're safer

You'll learn more over time, but I hope some of this general information helps a lot.

>>170906974
Wow I fucked up that post a lot

Shameful

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>>170843961
>critical Treebranch Smackdown
good fucking lord

>>170901934
Had one up already, but the code its really outdated as its from beta era DD, im updating it and now that I've become experienced with photoshop I can do the artwork miself instead of delegating it and ending up with just a recolored version.

>tfw finally got Ancestor's Lantern
Torchless Runs are now basically a piece of cake.

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Hypothetically, is houndmaster the best choice for this trinket?

Now here me out on this one. There are a number of reasons why I think there isn't another hero more suited for this:
>dodges count more when your hero is at death's door than anything since it increases your hero's chances of surviving a DD check
>he has ranged attacks to strike any position and make the most out of the trinket buff
>he even has an AoE attack + dog treats to increase his lethality
>can self heal if you need to back out on using the trinket
The gimmick focus is to use houndmaster without healing him until he hits DD and finish off most enemies. He should be equipped with another trinket or quirk to boost his dodge and speed so you can negate the chance of him dying prematurely and give you opportunity to choose fight/self heal. Killing enemies before they do potential harm to him is priority and focus on healing him if there is a chance that he lands on DD with a DoT in effect.

Your main strategy is to bring more food/bandage/anti-venom just so you can fix him. Don't gamble the trinket's effects if there is a chance your houndmaster will get DoT. When you decide to use the seal, have him bodyguard people to increase his dodge and center the damage towards him so he can get DD faster. Buff his spd and dodge over damage which he can muster with 2 unlocked remaining quirks or bonuses against beast. When he hits DD, have him wipe out enemies and heal him whenever you feel like there's a good chance he won't make it. Recommended quirks to give him are evasive, quick reflexes, unyielding, last gasp, clutch hitter, second wind, Beast x-er and other damage quirks.

Discuss.

>>170898609
Torrent where?

>>170898609
>4 More days till it comes out in Europistan.

FUCKING GOD DAMN IIIIIIIIIIIIIT.

>>170911367
Why did it get delayed, according to the wiki it was scheduled to release 3 days ago.

>>170908473
I lost 2 lvl 5's to that dumb fucking skill today, a crusader and a hwm.

FUCK

>>170911808
I dont know, but I know it came out in America a while back, in japan on the 23rd and its coming out in europe on the 17th.

>>170909187
I personally use Jester when fucking around with Death's Door stuff. Your idea isn't a bad one, but Jester has the other highest Deathblow resist trinket in the game and I personally find that extra 12% more valuable.

>>170912203
Maximum Death's Blow resistance caps at 87%

But if you can deal a shit ton of damage with finale then that would be interesting.

>>170912640
>Maximum Death's Blow resistance caps at 87%
>implying that'll ever make a difference

>>170912851
>20% increased chance to avoid permadeath
Yeah.

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>going for that ach with starting duo
>leveling them on easier stuff
>Swine King
>Occultist stunned by Wilbur twice in a row
>King crits Dismas
>Dismas ripostes him and kills him
And then Dismas died on Swine King from Wilbur

>>170915391
>taking them to boss fights
>not just leveling them up on short missions
You have only yourself to blame.

>>170915776
True true.
Oh well.

>>170915391
The same thing happened to me a few weeks ago
except he riposted and killed wilbur instead

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>>170915391
>he takes the cripple class duo to bosses
even tho crusade is honestly not that bad, you can set it with a man at arms an constantly push it back with the stun to spam holy lance.

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>leper is a dude who got leprosy but wants to do good with what life he has left
>abomination is a dude who got forcibly turned into a demon but wants to use his unholy strength for good
>leper: NO I HATE THAT GUY
really... makes u.... go huh.......

>>170916483
It's implied the Abom did it himself.

>>170917241
Where?

>>170916483
Leper is a religious fanatic and abomination is walking, talking blasphemy.

>>170918423
Some of his barks imply he was a scientist beforehand and that he fucked something up.

>>170918423
he most probably went full Hag and at some point started to experiment on itself, it is stated the Hag once was an attractive lady, and probably the only one the ancestor had any professional respect for, now she's probably trapped on her "abomination mode"

>>170916483
>implying hew and rake wouldn't be the most broken combo ever

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Feels 40s man

>>170922540
>only ever hit for 22

>>170922960
>implying thats bad.

8-17 hitting for 8 5 turns in a row says hi.

>>170851842
Can you stop trying to share your shitty opinions about f you didn't even finish Stygian?

Both HWM and Crusader are completely viable heroes and I did Stygian with no deaths and HWM in most of my parties, VVulf and DD1 without a single problem.

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Red hookers better fucking add level 6 missions in DLC.

Should I go for a Tome of Holy Healing or a second Berserk Charm? I have Junia's Head but I lost my Sacred Scroll to alcohol.

>>170908473
That's why I never go to the Weald without Maa who guards first 2 positions.
It's a strategy but at the same time it's a limitation that cuts other unreliable ways to do the dungeon and that encounter.

There are lots of such things in DD, corridor Shambler in pitch black is one of the most obvious ones. Hardcore fans who finished the game on NG+ full dark multiple times complain about devs' inability to fix the balance and make game more versitile.
When you look for efficient ways to play it on NG+ and especially full dark, the game becomes really tiny with the options you can use to succeed. Which is a shame.
But people who waste 100+ weeks won't see it anyway.

>>170925485
Sacred scroll is overrated garbage anyway. You cut the chance to stun enemies and that's dumb.

>>170926023
It's decent when paired with healing head for maximum heal potential, it's pretty funny watching the enemy team attempt to put a dent in you when you can heal a quarter of your entire teams heal in one turn.

>>170925010

HWM is useful but his ranged skills are strash.

Crusader doesn't do anything other heroes can't already do better.

>>170926023

Judgement is far more useful than the stun, and the -speed makes a Healbot Vestal much more effective. It's literally one of the best trinkets in the game because its downsides are meaningless.

At Champion level just having a stun doesn't do anything, enemies will shrug them off if they're not backed up with trinkets, which is why people use Hellions, Plague Doctors and Houndmasters if they need good stuns.

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Need a dancer class that's stronger when paired with Jester.

>>170931280
>Dancer class
Why was this the first thing I thought of?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykqO8D_7g3Q

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>>170926023
>>170926860
>>170927945
I think I should go for the Berserk Charm and make some gold, at least for now.

I can get the Sacred Scroll back from a Shrieker can't I?

>>170931280
are we putting on a show for these monsters now?

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>>170932372
I wouldn't mind.

>>170932138
>tfw you have three sacred scrolls and you weren't even trying to get them in the first place.

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>>170909187
>>170914271
The big issue with Death's Door resistance is that it's much better to build your hero to avoid getting there in the first place rather than planning for it. You have much better options that do the exact same thing you're talking about that don't require him to throw his body onto the monsters and waste a trinket slot.

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>>170932753

>>170931280
>Another music based shuffle class that gets a buff when paired with the other music based shuffle class
I could dig it

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Is it looking good famulan? I need feedback.

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>>170936415
The fingers look off somehow. Kind of like he taped sausages to his knuckles. Looks good otherwise.

>>170936839
To be fair everyone's fingers look off in this game

>>170937146
Yes, but most models don't draw attention to it by coloring the fingers and the rest of the hand in complimentary colors. I think it would probably look much better if the fingertips were the same color as the rest of the hand.

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>>170936839
>>170937609


they used to be of a very dark red and they didn't stand out as much, but the mix of bright green + red + pink make the dude look like a gay pride flag, it was just one to many colors, figured I should paint them with one of the one I was already using while still pointing at the fact that those are more claw and less finger.

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I want to put Martyr's Seal and Book of Rage on someone and keep them at death's door the entire dungeon.

What class should I use, and what would be the best way to keep them alive? I'm guessing Row4Manowar and maybe an Auntie?

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>>170939787
that looks much better

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why do people ship the warrior poet with the doctor

MANY FALL IN THE FACE OF CHAOS

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>first Veteran dungeon on Stygian
>not satisfied with the loot
>put out my torch from Radiant one from tile before a hall fight that was scouted
>Shambler
what the fuck

Do I seriously need to equip accuracy boosting trinkets on each person for champion dungeons or am I getting RNG fucked? I've missed about half my attacks and I'm getting relatively shredded despite maxed equipment and skills.

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>>170940238
>sick man and a doctor
>a romantic poet and a stoic scientist
>both serve for the better good of the people through different ways
>both have a mask

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>>170942723
even disregarding the shipping, Plague Doctor would obviously have an interest in studying Leper's condition

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>>170917241
Here you can see the abomination, restrained by three of his future selves as he is branded(with his consent of course) with the mark he carries, which is evidently the cause of his bestial form

>>170925334
I would totally love to see randomly generated darkest dungeon missions
>DD1 style missions where you fight mostly cultists and have to kill a boss
>DD2 style missions where you have to activate the doobity booblies or somethin
>DD3 style missions which are exact carbon copies of DD3 but randomly generated, with loot, and the cysts show up on the map if scouted

>>170943434
call it the darkester dungeon

>>170943234
No, the mark is just that, a mark so that any who see him know immediately that he is a monster. Those guys are probably just religious fanatics. They captured him not to turn him into a monster but to mark him and lock up and torture him for being an abomination of nature.

How do I find the barks for each heroes/npc please? I don't know where to find them in the files

>>170939825
Why would you want to do this

>>170944450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA

>>170942447
Jester Battle Ballad and MMA Command are your friends in that case, although I don't have that much of a problem with accuracy in Champion dungeons.

WHY DOES SQUIFFY GHOST HAVE SO MUCH FUCKING HEALTH
I CAN'T PRIORITIZE HIS HEALTH POOL OR I GET SLASHED AND REVENGED
I CAN'T LET HIM LIVE OR I GET OFFKILTERED TWICE
AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>170945027
>tfw you always kill him by turn 2
I only get a bit nervous if he brings a bloated corpse with him.

>>170945239
How? I'm currently in a long champion cove with Arbalest, Graverobber, Vestal and Hellion, and despite everyone having max skills, max equipment, AND everyone having +20%-25% damage trinkets, It's taking me fucking forever to kill anything down here. Just spent FOUR rounds of everyone spamming attacks on a fucking octopus before it died. I feel like something is wrong here.

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>Encounter the Shrieker first time
>40 grand in a nest
>second happening
>lets make a group to murder it this time
>kill it with some poor RNG
>lose lvl 6 grave robber
>dont get gems from nest
>dont get stolen trinkets back

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>170945995
overconfidence fill in the rest

>>170945027
>check wiki
>55 hp
>33 dodge

jesus fuck.

The fucking snibbety crab has 42 hp and barely 33% prot.

What in the fuck.

>>170946151
Squiffy ghost will only stress you out unlike the crab, its meh.

>>170946310
>implying its not worse.

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>>170946151
>42 hp and barely 33% prot
what are you on about

>>170945903
I run PD - Vestal - GR - MaA 90% of the time and they have no problem killing a Ghast by turn 2.

>blight
>thrown dagger
Usually within killing range by then. Next turn I can blight again for 12 damage before he acts again, Pick for damage, Judgement for damage, and whatever the MaA feels like doing, probably Crush or Rampart if I feel he'll survive.

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>>170946409
Dunno i met two last time in a long dungeon and well....i had only one two crazies n in the last room out of ...13-14 fights i think?

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>>170946538
oops wrong image

Could someone tell me where I can consult the hero barks in the files, please?

>>170946409
You're usually able to kill him before he does his big party-stress attack if you brought a half-decent party in. Even if he gets it off you can still stall forever with shield fish and snibity snabs to stress heal back to 0, it's just tedious to do.

>>170946694
The hell, list of all cove enemies shows the uca crusher at 42 hp 33% prot like I said, but clicking on it shows what you're showing me.

I got bamboozled.

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>>170947071
lol tricked

>>170947071
What you are seeing is the hp for the crab_A, the version for the enemies that appear in lvl1 and 2 dungeons, as he has doesn't appear until lvl 3 dungeons its never used ingame (just like ghoul_A and the other biggies)

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>>170947409
whoops, forgot the link

>>170947578
Do you know where I can consult the hero barks, please? I'm getting desperate

>>170947689
You mean read the banter?

>>170947689
Localization > dialogue.string_table
If you change anything click on the autorun on the localization folder to update the libraries or it will show up as code teal text in game

(reposting from /v/ thread)
I've had a hero idea tumbling around in my head for a little while.

It would be some kind of Witch or humanoid creature that's able to take in other party members stress. My current idea is that the hero eats memory so here's how I imagine a few abilities would go.

>(Consume Memory) Heal party member stress, small heal self, debuff/stun target
>(Regurgitate) Heal own stress, damage self, damage and debuff target enemy
And whatever other stuff to fill it out.

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>>170947689
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DarkestDungeon\heroes\houndmaster
be warned her bark is worse than her bite

>>170948050
Thank you a thousand times, my friend.

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>>170948082
why would we need something like this when Jester can already heal off stress without hurting himself

>>170948262
jester is so 2016, what about the new leaked incoming scorpiovaeden class, the songstress?

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>>170949108
DON'T YOU START AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT I SWEAR TO GOD

Lost my first level 6 today. Hellion vs champ Hag. She got potted, spat out on DD then deathblowed before I could get a heal on her.

All you had to do was survive one hit!

I'm sorry I failed you

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>>170949302

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>>170949302
you where saying?

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>>170949363
Do not ruminate on this fleeting failure - the campaign is long, and victory will come.

>>170949440
Story behind this webm?

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Hey
I heard there was an update that reduced grinding
how is it? I didn't mind the grind, I'm just curious since I stopped playing a while ago.

>>170949582
drugs

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>>170949582
Drugged to oblivion?

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>>170949451
I feel like these two would really get along great

>>170949481
Pour one out for the fallen

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>>170949451
>That airbrush coloring
>That terrible line art
Why can't no one go over there and tell this guy he sucks? And what sucks even more is his past stuff wasn't as terrible as his new stuff. They were still bad but none of the eyesores we see here. Is AJ the only worthwhile custom enemy/class modder out there? I mean yeah most of his stuff are often just kittbashes of existing assets but he has good coloring taste and makes do with what he have. Also that Necromancer looks pretty good desu

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>>170948082
got you covered m8, a million steps ahead, a shame is never gonna be finished

>>170950340
M-m..my work is pretty good to desu desu desu...

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>that feel when people will never put Richard Corben inspired art in the game
Its great with Mignolas stuff actually, he drew some Hellboys.

>>170951361
H-hold up, there's a comic based on The Music of Erich Zann?

Shieeet mang, that was one of my favourite Lovecraft shorts.

>>170884987
>I just made
great joke my man, I distinctly remember the maggot carrier coming with the combat overhaul mod that came out like 2 years ago

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>>170951831
Corben drew whole collection of Lovecraftian shorts and is drawing some Hellboy lately too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellboy:_The_Crooked_Man_and_Others

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/11/exclusive-dark-horse-preview-richard-corben-casts.html

>>170952208
Noice

How do you make use of a Vestal?

She's naturally slow as fuck making her open for every crit and stress spell. Low speed and 0 dodge.

Doesnt help her heal is below average.

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>>170952787

>>170952787
>Her heal is below average
>Unarguably the best healer in the game with a powerful single heal or a semi-powerful all party heal, which can be buffed to doing +63% with trinkets
Oh no! It's retarded!

>>170952787
Buff her healing with trinkets and use her as a secondary stunner. Unlike Occultist she is consistent with them.
Thats about it.

>>170952787
Two healing trinkets + Divine Comfort Spam.

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The spirits are restless, I fear the pack they struck goes beyond the limits of mortality....

>>170952939
Look m8 I'm starting out here so it's kinda hard to make use of her when she's last to take a turn and heals 5 when Occultists can heal 16.

>>170953451
Sooner or later Occultist will heal for 0 for 3 turns in a row and you will be foaming at your mouth.

>>170953451
I mean, would you prefer she had really high speed and acted before your party had taken any dmg? You know that what went trough the developers minds, dont cha'?

>>170948262
Because I want there to be more than one class that can heal party stress from the frontlines.

>>170950747
Looks cool, why is it never going to be finished?

>>170953601
Nobody ever is skipped if their speed is low enough right? Sometimes it felt like a vestal missed multiple turns before she could make a move.

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>>170953764
>I want more than one class that can heal party stress from the frontlines

>>170953925
You can put them in minuses if you want it too, its basically initiative and not speed in tabletop terms.

>>170953925
Next to the HP bar there's a symbol that shows whether or not a hero has taken their turn yet.

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>>170953931
Jesters and houndmasters can't heal party stress from the frontline.

So did you guys finish the game on Stygian yet?
How difficult is it

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>>170954745
You need to bring a few extra torches, but otherwise it feels about the same until you get to champion dungeons. Still pretty easy if you know what you're doing, though.

>>170955112
Yea i noticed curve really evened out after i had rocky start from apprentice to veteran.
So what kind of compositions do you use?

Groups based around marking and.../buff/debuff ones and one based on movement?

Anything else?

>>170954745
I still haven't beat it on normal

>>170953421
Now this I like.

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>>170955413
At least you arent that guy who gives up after the tutorial.

>>170953931
Yes? Preferably one I can pair with an Abomination as well.

>>170956084
Best thing for another stress healer would be to heal mutiple stress targets for a smaller amount.

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>>170939825
Make it a Highwayman and guard him with a MAA or Dogman.

Ideally he would have Unyielding and DoT resistance quirks as well.

GREAT IS THE MEME THAT KEKS ON ITS OWN

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>>170955387
I only trained the 16 heroes I wanted that are necessary to beat the game. Four of those heroes were Vestals so I could send one on every darkest dungeon mission. For regular quests I didn't really care about party composition, so I just sent out whoever needed XP the most.

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Just had my most fortunate boss run yet.

>Occultist, Highwayman, Jester, Crusader
>fighting veteran lvl Necromancer
>running dungeon
>bless one god shrine for 30% damage buff on Crusader
>he finds two more and raises the buff to 70%
>don't camp so the buff stays
>use highways riposte to bring crusader to pos three and lance the Necromancer
>57 damage in one lance hit
>kill him and camp for stress reduction

Kinda worried how I'll kill the Necromancer Lord. His auto stress attacks are brutal and almost made my 0 stress team reach 100

>>170958712
You should focus on disabling him more so that he doesn't get time to summon. If you know how to fight Necro then he's hands down one of the easiest encounters in the whole game.

I wish this guy made more mods.

http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/41/

do you guys prefer the deck stage coach thing or the "standard" stagecoach setting?

If I understand this correctly, with the deck thing on, the classes that show up are less random and more spread out over time, right?

>>170961102
T-t...thanks sempai, just yesterday I started updating the code since they changed some wording in the buffs / quirks library and monter AIs txt.

I'm working hard; tomorrow i'm going on a trip and comming back in a week, hope they realease mod support by then.

If you want somerhing in particular just tell me, I'll slave away for you.

>>170962959
Your mods are neat and the art is good.

Make sure to replace the dogs in the Vvulf invasion. It's weird that they're skeletal.

>>170962959
It would be neat if you made a "swine surgeon" mini boss that could summon swine hookguys and craft corpses into new and exciting forms. Also, more collector heads are always neat. I have an idea for more head related puns.

>>170933168
Good luck with that at times. Suddenly a bunch of enemies crit the same person in a row and they have blight on them. Have fun.

>Wipe Swine God with Wilbur on 1hp
rng pls

>>170966803
That's real cute.

DD on switch when Redhook?

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>>170968048
That's why you get this wonderful thing called speed so you can deal with some of the enemies before they get the chance to move. Or if you're not even talking about the first turn I'm not sure why you'd let yourself get into a situation like that. I'll always say 90% of the time if a hero dies it's your own fault.

>>170968610
Doesn't always work because it rolls for initiative so you can always get an unlucky roll there.

>>170969765
>During each turn, each unit is assigned a random number ranging from 1 to 8, to which its SPD value is added
Considering the odds it's very unlikely their entire side will move before you since usually they have a few slow fat fucks on their side who would not only need high rolls, but also need YOU to get low rolls in fact stuff like the Swinetaur wouldn't be able to outspeed some ridiculously fast heroes like mildly speed-boosted Grave Robber at all even with max roll. It's the equivalent to saying I could get unlucky and get struck by lightning when I walk outside so I should wear protective gear for it.

>>170952787
I used to think the same before buffing her up with a bunch of heal boosting items, now she's my primary healer with the Occulist becoming dedicated to debuffing and yanking the enemy's chain around

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These are the only level 5 guys I have, wish me luck.

>>170862570
>>170864435

>not wanting to get drunk with hellion

>>170881972

>rust monster expy that inflicts damage and defense debuffs that last until the end of the dungeon

>>170918423

His barks say that alchemy caused his demon thing, and other barks imply he was a scientist.

>>170931280

>shortstack class
I don't think my dick could handle it.

Looks like the GDC community talk that John did this year go released. Pretty good watch, a few good thoughts here and there and some stuff I personally hadn't noticed since I never really posted on the forums during EA.

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1024247/Circle-in-the-Dark-The

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>it's a "everybody fails their first deathdoor check" episode

Is there something wrong with my game?
>No hwm, arbelist, crusdader has ever spawned, and I'm past week 50
>Gunslinger not in the game

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>>170976947
>all those slides with memes and shit that we created over the years

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> it's a "everybody gets virtues" episode
> it's a snibbety snap nearly bleeds your Occultist to death.

>>170977647

Might be a problem with "deck based stagecoach" try going to the options and disabling it.

>gunslinger

You mean musketeer? You need to mod her in, the link to it should be in the OP.

>>170977647
>>170980179
The just released a patch that should have fixed it.

>>170950747
oh neat, I never see that reposted ever so I wasn't sure if it was even real. Are you still continuing this? Please say you are.

>>170976947
Thanks anon, I've been looking for this.

>healing coral doesn't remove diseases anymore
That's one medicinal herb wasted. ;_;

>>170983362
When did it ever do that? I've never seen it remove anything but quirks.

>>170983553
This.

>>170979954
They really increased the drop rate of the journal pages by a shit ton. I remember playing this game right after it released and only getting a single page after my first 40 weeks.

>>170980886
I have some bad news for you anon...
The red hook modding forum account of the dude who uploaded the files has been
Inactive for a million years, for what Im able to piece togheder the dude knew only how to make artwork and paired himself with another dude who knew only how to do the programming side of things, google for "darkest dungeon proyect herbert west" to check the post.

Tldr: Rip

>>170984434
I didn't even know they existed until week 200+.

>>170986931
Fucking Christ that's some ungodly terrible RNG.

do we have a more accurate eta than 'early 2017'?

>>170989460

For Crimson Court? It's supposed to come out in April.

>>170989564
fuck

there is a national holiday tomorrow in my country and im taking the rest of the week off but both darkest dungeon and dark souls dlcs are coming out later this month or well in dds case in april then

dunno what to play then
rip

>>170984548
we're talking about the Gypsy Occultist reskin right?

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>>170989617
Let me name some slightly rares things for you then
>Age of Decadence
>Mordheim
>first Star Wolves

Also this if you can dig old stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axqRgDkWXA0

>>170980179
>Might be a problem with "deck based stagecoach" try going to the options and disabling it.
what the fuck I didn't know of this.
why is this shit enabled by default ? since like week 5 I only had like always the same 5 classes

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>>170989617
>>170991886

If you're into those top-down perspective RPGs, I had a lot of fun with Underrail and Expeditions Conquistador.

>>170992305
Conquistadors is good?
Underrail is okay but its really poor game to do early rerolling. You literally have to heavily invest into builds before they pay off.

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>>170992371

I think so. There is flexibility in how to fight in combat with various classes and items you can use in battle, as well as various options for how to handle situations outside of battle as well. I'm kind of glad it came out a while ago, I think maybe a game where you can play a white guy mowing down a bunch of brown people might have caused more butthurt if it came out today. For the record, I think it handles the setting pretty well. Even though you can be Mr Nice Guy, you can have plenty of encouragement to be a jerk depending on what your team is like.

>>170895340
some moves, like the jesters's finale, the HWM's point blank shot and the GR's lunge are very strong and you want to build your party in such a way that they can use the ability immediately every fight and then move to another position were they spend the rest of the battle. that means putting the jester and HWM to position one, for example. it is not the ideal position for those heroes, but it doesn't matter since they only spend a single turn there anyway. then, after every battle you reset the party order again so you can do the same thing the next turn. that is one way to get the most out of those attacks.

other attacks like holy lance or slam are only insurance for shuffles though. They are not worth building your party around that.

>>170991938
Can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure the point of the deck — as imperfect and janky as it is — is to lean more towards healers appearing in the coach so you'll never be without one no matter how many die consecutively in your roster.

It's on by default because it's more inconvenient to have too few healers than too many, by their judgement.

>>170993324
You can put GR in fourth place for two lunges and any party will greatly benefit from HWM with point blank and duelists advance.

>>170993324
>other attacks like holy lance or slam are only insurance for shuffles though. They are not worth building your party around that.
yeah, why would I ever want to double crit the backrow with my crusader

>>170993581
I don't understand the point of your post. I mentioned most of those things.

>>170994134
the crit chance is only slightly higher than on smite. And it can't hit rank 2 anymore, so if there is no rank 4 enemy you can be stuck without target because the crusader is super slow. And if there is a high priority enemy like a thrall in rank 1 or 2, that is pretty bad as well. I really don't think that it's worth it.

>>170983362
Nigga, just bring a GR with snuffbox or PD with leeches, trinkets that cure diseases would be absolutely useless.

>>170994873
>Holy Lance: 14% Natural Crit chance at level 5
>Smite: 9% Natural Crit chance at level 5
what? also Holy Lance hits position 3 and 4, which is pretty unlikely that you'll only have 2 enemies to be fighting. either way that's why you run Inspiring Cry to get rid of anyone's stress. and if there's really only 2 enemies in the front you're fighting I think you're fine with one character just stress healing unless your heroes in the front are really THAT weak.

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Does the achievement for bringing dismas and reynauld to the end trigger when you start the quest, or do you need to finish it with both of them? The way the achievement is worded seems like you only need to bring them.

>>170958594
>bringing Reynauld and Dismas on the final quest and letting one of them die

Poor form.

>>170881972
>you can somehow recruit monsters to your party
>you can have a 2-tile character in your party, maybe a monster or maybe just a huge swole dude like the big brigand man
>a trinket that gives your guy a massive amount less stress taken but a proportional amount more hp damage taken and vice versa
>a trinket that gives you 1 max hp but a fuckton of dodge, damage and deathblow resist
>a quirk and trinkets that relate to trap disarm chance
>quirks that make your heroes able to apply random statuses "Hero attacks can bleed" or something like that
>quirks that make your heroes able to randomly be statused by any attack "Hero is likely to bleed"

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>>170999452
>>a quirk and trinkets that relate to trap disarm chance

there are several trinkets that increase trap disarm chance.

I should start naming my characters unfunny things.

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>>170881972
Bosses now have a deathblow state

>>170999925
Oh, whoops. Didn't realize.
>>171000173
>enemy that works like a player where it has a stress bar and deathblow resist

>>171000469
>Rival party of adventurers dealing with the same shit you are.

>>170997852
You only need to enter DD4 with the boys, they don't need to survive or succeed

>>170881972
>ability to hire mercenaries for gold (fusilier/cutthroat) only after vvulf has died to fill in a party slot
>can fit them with trinkets
>amount of provisions slightly reduced to compensate
>only appear on certain weeks, not all the time to prevent cheese
just in case you don't have to bring dismas and lose him to smackdown shenanigans desu

>>171000758
>rival party of adventurers from a rival hamlet of a rival heir of a rival ancestor who resurfaced a rival old god
>you gotta go fuck their shit up so they stop coming after your shit

>>171001031
"Give me back my deeds you fuck"

>>171000969
>mercenaries are strong but are used to fighting people so they're actually pussies to the mental stresses of diving into cthulhu bullshit
>and they straight up refuse to go to the darkest dungeon, maybe to champ bosses
would be a cool tradeoff

>>171001124
>you have to stop their rival ancestor by going into their rival darkest dungeon and slaying their rival heart of darkness
that's tellin em

>>171000969
>>171001129
>and you can hire cultists that are the other way around, pretty weak in combat but almost unbreakable in terms of stress

>>170927436
The Crusader is one of the best heroes, keep your shit opinions to yourself.

>>170931280
only if it's Aria and she's permanently on death's door

Post some of the things you’d love to see added to the game via dlc or patch

>a Size 2 hero, like a mounted spearman, for exemple
>enemy groups focusing enterely on party shuffle mecanics (either by shuffling themselves or your heroes)
>usable items that can be used to affect the enemies (exemple: bombs, debuffing stones, poison grenades that are usable by everyone)

>>171002220
>abomination and occultist have ensured we never see a proper eyeball-covered monstrosity character
reeee

I'm glad you fags have zero input on the game because your ideas are offensive garbage

>>171002716
give a better idea if you're so great

It's week 36 in Stygian and while I've completed the Guild and almost completed the Blacksmith, most of my guys don't have their 3s and 4s let alone their 5s

I'm really getting worried about having enough gold to upgrade.

I just need some fucking secret rooms. I take the Map and Seer Stone everywhere and have been crit scouting but no secret rooms in like 6 runs.

just beat DD4 for the first time.
what to do now

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>>171000758
>>171001031

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Well, I finally pulled through and did it.

If I had any emotions left at this point, i'd probably cry. Rest in peace.

What a nice moment. If I hadn't already been SPOILED by this general, I feel like the sudden shock and realization of what i'd have to do would be much more memorable, but still, it was very nice. I wish more games had as satisfying of a finale and endgame as this one. The ancestor fight was awesome, too, having to actually fight him, after all this time.

I want to kill people to get the requirements to revive Reynauld and Dismas but I want it to look pretty and have one of each headstone aside from the Final Boss and Darkest Dungeon ones

who do I kill for each headstone and how?

>>171006743
kill people with occultist bleeds and goblet trauma

what setup would you guys suggest for beguiling siren?

there was this dude the other day telling me about a group but i forgot about it

>>171007323
Pick things that can attack from all positions and occultist for healing since he has eldrich bonuses.

>>171003564
Stygian your shit up

>>171008370
i went with occultist, graverobber, bh and leper

leper was prob a stupid idea

>>171008773
Sounds fine but i would rather have a crusader or man at arms over leper.

>>171008849
i was worried that i might prot buff with man at arms

>>171001349
There is an entire eldrich paralel version where their ancestor fucked up and summoned the hearth of darkness to our realm and now they have to break the bindings to take it back before we kill it
>most of the shit our ancestor did was made possible by their ancestor also fucking around on their end
>other than halting our progress they have to deal with regular shit invading deir domains like random panicked townfolk ruining rituals (swine equivalents), summoned crusader armies (for experiemnting on) offering organized resistance (skeleton equivalents), bandits being bandits, and regular fauna causing allergies and shit (weald), a circus group calming everyone to death (cove)...

Fuck vampires, i want to murder clowns with unspeakable abominations before they cheer them up enough to reject their "gifts".

>>171008930
If she doesnt take man at arms he can riposte everything she dishes out in kind.

>>171008930
You can dictate who she tries to seduce with Holy Water, as she's programmed to seduce the character with the lowest Debuff Resistance. So you could give him the buff and she'll never go after him.

My MaA has a Debuff Amulet because I always use Bellow and she never tries to seduce him.

>>171009230
>>171009053
well im already mid dungeon so i cant change

i hope it will work out

i have cove quest at least

So /dadg/, who are you going to give the Crimson Curse to?
I'm going to give it to my Musketeer so she becomes even more like Lady Maria!

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>>171009420
You will be fine dont be a babby.
Here have a picture from one of my Campaign books.

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nice i killed her!

now the crew...that will be harder

>>171009762
Vampire Grave Robber sounds hot.

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>>171009762
>""""""""""""Lady"""""""""""" Maria

holy shit can that fucking shrieker fuck off already

lost my fucking man at arms

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>>171011273

can i just walk back and forth in a pitch dark dungeon to maybe get summoned by shambler?

>abandoned first playthrough and decided to start from the beginning, didn't go into the darkest dungeon
>tfw lost more heroes to Brigand 16
Pounder than during all floors of darkest dungeon during second playthrough
>if you exclude HOD deaths I lost 0 people in DD itself in blind run
this fucking matchman and his dodges

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>>171011273
Basically what I do is, if you're just trying to survive and don't want to kill the nest, load up your party with the tankiest heroes you have available, with a vestal at the back with healing trinkets.

Guard her with a MAA, or just leave her be if you don't have one, and give her, and everyone else trinkets that buff their base hp, like the life crystal. Buy bandages, and just spam the vestal's area heal every turn. Never came close to losing someone this way.

>>171008618
what's the difference between stygian and NG+?

>>171014972
NG+ no longer exists. It's just Stygian now, and Stygian is harder than NG+ was.

I refuse to believe that enemy crit chance doesn't go up in Stygian

>>171015879
Who told you it doesn't?

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I wouldn't mind someone doing a less amateurish version of something like this.

do you generally cure Rabies or do you keep it and try to counterbalance the -10 ACC?

2 of my guys have it and I got free Sanitarium this week, so I could cure them both.

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>literally used grave robber like maybe twice in my 111 hours
>try her out again and start using lunge

>>171022813
IKTF, only with Finale into stress heal/BB Jester

>>171022727
I usually keep it. Even the Disease page on the Wiki immediately points out how beneficial it can be.

>>171022727
it gets a lot worse at higher level dungeons since everything has dodge out the ass. i would never keep it on a leper, maybe on an arbalest or GR.

What Quirks are generally worth locking in?
From what I've gathered, the following are:

>Warrior of Light, Early Riser, Photomania(?) (supposing I'm not doing dark runs)
>On Guard
>Quickdraw
>Quick Reflexes
>Slugger/Unerring on melee/ranged
>Eldritch Slayer/Hater (because of DD missions, I presume?)

What about stuff like Evasive, Deadly, Tough etc.?

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>>171024115
the accuracy quirks are good as well. defensive quirks like evasive and hard skinned are great on healers and support (vestal). evasive is otherwise only good on people that have already high dodge, like HWM, GR or dog. i sometimes keep prot on MAA for the lultz. deadly is not good enough, precise striker and co are better since they offer a higher crit buff.

>>171003670
I like this reference

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>>171022813
>still haven't used her because fuck shuffling
>haven't used abom either because fuck stress
>barely use leper, crusader, highwayman. if i do, its mostly for noveltys sake

i consider fucking antiquarian more useful than the guys above because she at least something unique to the table which is not outclassed by others.
Prove me wrong.

>>171024825
>still haven't used her because fuck shuffling
Then don't use her for shuffling. She does just fine staying in ranks 2 or 3 and throwing daggers/darts.

>>171025175
>Tfw 150 acc misses

GOD

FUCKING

DAMN IIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT.

But when she lands those 30/33 dmg flashing daggers umf.

>>171025259
Hit chance caps at 90% regardless of the displayed number. But yeah, Flashing Dagger crits are amazing.

>>171025617
even the "hero chance to hit" tooltip displays the actual number.

>>171024115

- Instalock Tier-
On Guard
Corvid's Grace
Corvid's Eye
Eldritch Hater

- Great Tier-
Quickdraw
Quick Reflexes
Early Riser
Eldritch Slayer

- Good Tier-
Photomania
Steady
Tough
Hard Skinned
Natural Swing and Natural Eye

As a general rule for quirks you want:

Speed. It is an extremely important stat, probably the most important. Barely any trinkets actually provide it, and many of them penalise it. For many heroes quirks are their only source of increased Speed outside of buffs, so they stand out as super strong picks to lock.

Accuracy. Damage is overrated since it's something you get from loads of trinkets. Accuracy is much less common so getting it in Quirks is very useful, and when regarding DPS as a concept in general, you need your attacks to hit as often as possible.

Late Game stuff. Stuff that's useful early on like Weapon Tinker is pointless to lock, the point of locking quirks is that you are building a strong hero to use at the end of the game. This is why the anti-Eldritch quirks are super good because Eldritch is all over the Darkest Dungeon and is common enough outside of it that it's not too situational.

Quirks like Corvid's Grace are still good because you get two very useful above-average buffs for the economy of one quirk slot.

There are other fringe cases where a quirk is worth locking - Bounty Hunter with Man Slayer, Houndmaster with Beast Slayer, Arbalest with +20% healing skills, and so on.

Steady is a great skill in general but is far more valuable on Abomination, and +Speed is great but actually not that worth locking on a Bounty Hunter since you want him to move after Marks have been applied, etc. etc.

I just received my first Wolves at the Door event, what should I expect? I have plenty of maxed heroes.


I fucked up my last encounter by not asking, I assumed the crow was an actual dungeon with a boss at the end and brought a bunch of torches and shit, and my team comp was fucking awful for the fight.

I'm trying not to spoil myself too much, but it feels like the game punishes far too hard for playing blind. I brought two Lepers to my first hag fight, guess how that went.

I don't want to wiki this, but I also don't want to be raped to death.

>>171024803
I'm glad you like it.

>>171033769
Don't send your A-team