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"No Edition" edition

Got surprised by spiders >>169445475 (Cross-thread) (Cross-thread)

>Wiki for everything:
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/
>Simple guide:
http://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/
>More detailed guides:
http://i.imgur.com/LTxZyAU.jpg (embed) (embed)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eYJFVykEJ2ta1sDV4-5MKoQVAgZgk3LDzHb4v_p1Fo8/edit
>Homepage and news
http://www.darkestdungeon.com/
>Musketeer mod for non-backers (Musketeer is recruited through the caravan)
mega:#!tpFFXa4K!12r68edFgc-RDpJhKEdQRljHAFa0O3PpLsPFDAPurf8
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>>170428092
>didn't update link to last thread
>again

Delete this and redo.
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>>170428173
Fuck.

>>170154643
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>>170428243
>>170428092
This is even worse than the embed meme
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And now the true test. Get bumped, or expire.
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i really want that 'map' shambler trinket

is there any cheesy way to make a low level one spawn? i get fucking destroyed by a higher level shambler in 2 turns because my comp is not good against it
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>>170431254

You could just run around in the dark until it shows up.
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>>170431345
can it spawn on tiles ive already visited?
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Why doenst it reain in the hamlet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYw7eJYadco&index=1620&list=FL6NyN0WqDsyRjTe8Q_zz55w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqKPWO5T4o&index=1621&list=FL6NyN0WqDsyRjTe8Q_zz55w
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>>170431438
Yeah, every randomly generated hallway battle can be a shambler. I had a shambler spawn once between me and an already scouted secret room which I was going back to get. Could not get past him and had to retreat and go home without my loot. It felt really fucking awful.
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Dear guy who says occultist goes in slot three,

fuk u occultist best abilities are wyrd/pull/two curses
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If I equip Ancestor's Portrait just before the quest is finished, is it enough to get the +50% Resolve?
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>>170431254
Once had a really shitty two weeks. I've been doing 0 lvl dark runs for moneys, and had two party wipes in a row. First one was 3 affliction and a stalwart GR, who remained last and died on the first DD check, when I thought it was time to retreat. The second one got eaten by a shambler 2 rooms from entrance. That really sucked.
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>week 50
>0 death
Can I save them all?
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>>170435204
no
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>>170432532
oh look, he can do all that from pos 3

Also, weakening curse is an EXTREMELY situational skill, since most of the time the turn is better spent doing more important stuff that actually contributes killing the enemy (like you know, hitting it with a dagger), which also has the effect of taking less damage (since the enemy is dead sooner), So i while it is a nice skill, i would argue against having it slotted for all but certain bossfigths.

Also also, hex suffers from the above, although to a much lesser extent, still: its main value is in marker parties, in wich most likely you will have an arblest, and its much better to reserve the 4th pos for her in case someone get knocked behind her. This also applies to other heavily backrow dependet heroes like PD.
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>>170433626
would saving that tiny ammount of stress worth sacraficing 1 inventory/trinket slot for the mission?
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>>170436121
ofc he can do all from pos 3 and from pos 4 same as houndmaster

flexible positioning is a good thing not a bad thing

idk, I never bother with dagger on occultist because I never get to the point in a fight where I don't need to heal/pull/mark and the enemy team isn't dead

the only time I see it being useful is against 4x trash encounters if you don't have someone who can kill more than one, and you can't predict those so why slot it

then again I never run him outside marker parties, so
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dazed
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>>170437930
it helps in cleanup (why pull and mabye have the 3rd pos survive if you can kill it?), and makes him able to hurt the front 2 too.

In the end, it increases the number of situations he can contribute/his utility, which is nice beacuse he IS mainly a utility guy (i pity the fool who have him as the sole main healer. even marker party has arblest healing too )
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>>170441193
>And now the true test... hold fast, or expire?
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>>170441113
>why pull
because he isn't going to be killing anything without trinkets, and his trinkets should be focused on debuff application or healing

Pull hits 4th row and prevents things like courtiers and such from using strong back row attacks, while doing 50% damage

I run with BH/BH/HM, front row is stronger than back row.
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>>170441602
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>>170432532
If you take an eldbitch slaying occultist into the cove, stab is a billion times better than weakening curse. There is not a single enemy that is worth wasting a turn reducing damage on. I understand weakening a giant in the weald, but against the fish people i'd rather dish out 20 damage stabs on the fucking groupers and kill them asap than do anything else. What are you even going to weaken there? Thralls because they're about to blow up? Just fucking stab em instead. Snibeti snabs? Curse does nothing against bleed.
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>>170433626
Yeah, but you'd need to make that useful.
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>>170441728
Don't get me wrong, i know full well how insanely useful pull is. I love running x/occultist/crusader/leper and taking lewd pics of stressing fucks growing new anuses.

I meant in situations where you only have the pos3 guy (4th is dead), with the 3rd also damaged (say PD blight). you either pull him which he might survive needing an another guys action to finish off, or kill him with just 1 move. Dagger has some nice damage and pulled me out of the shitter quite a few times. It also helps in dealing with front rows, and in situation where shit REALLY gone sour, and you want that fucker dead NOW (say everyone is dotted, even if cured/healed up they will just get dotted again, or high on stress). Usually against shambler and bosses, or after bad crits.

But hey, the magic of this game is that everyone can meld it to his/her own styles.

Except pos 2 vestal. Thats universally shit.
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>Steady, girl. If we're called, we answer.
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There's something about the way the game and its characters totally ignore deaths after they've happened that makes losses even more unnerving.

Like, those deaths can't even serve a dramatic purpose that the game can acknowledge -- you've just lost out on possibilities and it's up to you to carry that weight.

Deaths could provide a /kind/ of value in long term if characters barked from time to time that they "miss Dismas", but, as is, you're left 'playing with yourself' in that regard, and it feels pathetic.
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how is a GR used best?
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>>170445859
I posted in the last thread my bad idea for this game was to implement a "friendship" mechanic, where if heroes where frequently paired up together, they'd get small buffs in combat. but if one of them died, they'd lose the buffs and take a huge amount of stress damage.
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>>170445859
I would love a companion/friendship system where frequently pairing up the same team could result in bonds/buffs when working together and extra stress/affliction when one is lost.
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>>170445859
Do you think these people go to an eldrich shithole to live happily ever after?
Everyone there, is there to die. Them they do, are the lucky ones.
After each expedition a toast and a free round is called for the fallen, then everyone carries on almost hoping to be the next one.

They dont "miss" Dismas. They envy him.
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>>170446559
This game is almost as depressing as real life.
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why is DD3 so easy
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>>170447223
it was modeled after your mom
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http://www.darkestdungeon.com/job-posting-embedded-qa-tester/

So I guess we're delayed for Q3 release?
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>>170447948
Nah John said on Reddit that the QA job is for post release testing and fixes as well as pre. With that and the smile face emoticon, I'm assuming they're still on track for April.
As an extra bonus if you check out their modders page you can see they're talking about being about a week's worth of work away from being done. I'd say that puts us at 2 or so weeks till mod support is out.
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I challenged a Shambler with some level 1s and 0s and no upgraded gear or skills, on Stygian.

I learned that this is not wise. Nobody died since I had the good sense to at least retreat.
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I could make a version of Musket mod that disables Arbelest sawning. Would you guys like that? Might be glitchy...
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>>170449690
The Arbalest is fine as long as you reskin her into an actual waifu.
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>>170449639
I don't need to touch a red hot stove to know it's not a good idea, anon.
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>>170450081
I never challenged a Shambler until late in the game in Darkest. I wasn't sure what to expect. Every time I fought a Shambler I had dank trinkets and upgrades.
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>>170450923
> You will learn from this defeat
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>>170449639
On Stygian especially it's a good idea to only challenge a Shambler if you're really confident in your party composition and have a campfire available for after/already finished the quest.
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>>170451337
I was confident in my composition but the heals could not keep up. Normally the heals can't keep up with a Shambler so you just out DPS him, but the heals REALLY weren't keeping up.
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Is six deaths at week 55-60 acceptable in PBD? Got two From Beyonds and difficulty is Darkest.
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New player here, I've explored the Ruins, Weald, and Warren and have a grip on them, but I've never been to the Cove.

I understand I can expect suicide bombers and high-prot enemies? What is better to bring, blight or bleed? What kind of items should I pack for the intractables there?
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>>170446373
Tied down on a bed
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>>170452858
early on you shouldnt have too much trouble with the cove, fishtits have high bleed resists afaik.

Bring lots of weed and shovels.
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what a FAGGOT
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>>170445360
>spare the others
>I am ready
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>>170452858
Get some blight, bleed doesn't work well.
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wew
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>>170435684
Don't lie to me! Of course I can
Week 60
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>>170452858
Bring
>herbs
>shovels
>holy water
>blight
>bandages especially in vet+
>stun
>anti-eldritch
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>>170452858
They are resistant to bleed
Almost all enemies are eldritch.
the bloated zombie dudes explode on their second turn. The first turn is just an attack
The standard enemy type (pelagite grouper (fish man)) can only attack the front two ranks when in the front ranks, and can only attack the back two ranks when at they are at the back.
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>>170453392
>>170454609
Thanks for the heads up
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>>170456924
Ha, should have updated. Thanks as well.
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>>170445859

>>170441193
fuck you, now i want this
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>>170446373
only in noob and veteran missions, in a supreme meme team, doing lunges all day, killing the entire enemy party before they get a turn and leaving the dungeon with less stress than when they entered
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>>170455742
you cant defy the RNGgod anon
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>>170457762
you want to feel emotional loss for each kitkat bar consumed?
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>>170455742
>Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
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>>170455742
It's obviously not overconfidence. I'm just over qualified!
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>>170458476
>>170458318
It was for you
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>>170455742
Stay determined anon, hold fast, and dawn will come soon enough
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>>170458476
How do you get that qt arbalest?
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>>170458779
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/112/?
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>>170457634
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e9VBtUO0tY2l58DSUb_JHnULDuAhziqnOCQH1VS4GtY/edit#gid=61256338
adjust to your own comfort
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Just bought this game.

Any quick tips that aren't that fucking infographic novel in the OP you guys wanna share with me would be appreciated, please and thank you.
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>>170462352
Scouting is more important than it seems

Always take 4-8 more food than you think you need due to the stupid hunger tiles system

Same with shovels unless you're going to the warrens - straight paths mean you're going to need a shovel or suffer stress and health damage if there's a wall in your way

There's less risk to treating stress in the abbey than the bar as they won't lose trinkets or money

that's all I can think of for now
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>>170462352
Stuns are godsends. If you have the option to attack an enemy to deal dmg and stun him, stun him.

Best strategy is to try to take out one enemy before they have a turn to attack and stun kill the rest.

Plague doctors are the best.
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>>170462352

- Play Radiant or Darkest first, Stygian will kick your ass unless you know the game inside out. Radiant is better for new players, but teaches bad habits, so the choice is yours.

- Upgrade your Stagecoach first so it gives you four heroes every week

- Instead of picking a team of four and using them all the time (the game is designed to discourage you from doing this), you should grab whatever four you can off the stagecoach and throw them in a party, then do a dungeon.

- It doesn't matter if your noob heroes die or get diseased/stressed out, they're just disposable, it's more important you use gem get resources and trinkets - this is also the fastest way to learn new heroes, how the battle system works, and so on.

- Playing in darkness increases risks but you get more gold, so give it a go and play at different lights to see how it works.

- Occasionally you'll get some BAMF that survives against the odds, those are the guys you keep to use later so it hurts more when you lose them

- Learn what provisions activate what curios - it allows you to avoid risky stuff and massively boosts your gold and heirloom intake.

- Plague Doctor best waifu

- REMIND YOURSELF
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Should I go for the Book of Intuition or try to kill the Wizened Hag with these guys? No upgraded skills but 2/2 equipment. It's week 10 Stygian not sure how fast I should be killing bosses
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>>170464191
I'm doing Stygian right now and you don't need to rush something if you're not prepared. You could probably take the hag no problem, but it's more important to measure your cash and heirlooms than rush missions for levels. The death limit is a far bigger deal than the time limit.
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>>170464321
I don't want to run out of heroes before beating the apprentice bosses though, I'm having a hard time getting deeds
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>>170462352
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>>170451798
>>170451337
>>170449639
check it, won both times
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>>170464770
You might have to stomach throwing out some gold for heirloom stacks. It's also worth paying more attention to quest rewards if you don't already.
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>World where flintlocks not only exist, but are shown to be common enough that even brigands can get a fair number of them
>Musketeer uses a fucking Matchlock
That's be like going into a modern war with a fucking WW2 era bolt action rifle, is the musketeer retarded?
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>>170466552
She's a sport hunter who thought going to fight actual monsters was a good idea. Of course she's retarded.
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>>170462352
Kill stress-dealers as soon as possible, letting that pile up hurts you more than regular damage.
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>>170462352
- Pay attention to your line-up, what moves they have and who they can target. Having no flexibility is a sure way to be killed due to a surprise shuffle or unfortunate push/pull skills

- Bleed and Blight are both better than you think they are

- All the characters that seem bad at first (Leper, Houndmaster, Jester) are bound to become your best and favorites once you get good

- Attacks and damage are superior to healing. Healing has a place, but it is a swim upstream. Usually better to focus on killing things quick or preventing damage with the intelligent use of stuns or line movement skills.

- A party of 4 damage dealers can be surprisingly good, especially when paired with offensive classes with a self heal (Leper, Crusader, Arb, Hound)

- Err on the side of packing extra supplies. Bandages, shovels, and food are cheaper than replacing skilled up heroes.
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>whole lvl 6 squad dies because 2 ennemy crits in a row
>lvl 6 hellion dies against shrieker
>none of those deaths could have been prevented

Why is this game so shit?
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>"Saved more men than he lost, but the loss still hurts."
This one description speaks to the whole game, god damn.
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>>170468786
>none of those deaths could have been prevented
Prove it.
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>>170468786
>partywipes
>not preventable
Anon c'mon now
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>>170469035
Two crits on first turn against le flesh.
Cant debuff it since those fuckers always respawn.
Had +SPD and near max bleed/blight resist on everyone but STILL got blighted.
That game was hella epic, just gonna pirate it and seed it, and give it shit steam reviews.
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>>170469396
Wow good stuff anon, sure proved that you couldn't do anything about that.

You could've left as soon as you got double crit and blighted, that didn't have to turn into a party wipe. You let your overconfidence kill you insidiously. Also Debuffs are absolutely terrible against the Flesh, I don't know how you managed to beat it twice if you were using that same strategy.
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>>170468786
>>170469396
Why would you stay in a fight that's going so poorly your characters might die?
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>>170469764
I never used a debuff on it, just told that i couldnt because it wasnt optimal.
And entered the fight with a Holy water on everyone.
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>>170469396
>Ah, discretion, my old friend
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>>170469942
because it happened on turn 1
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>>170470158
Yeah, but you said it killed your whole squad. How would that have happened from two crits?
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>>170469942
Not him, but a lot of my deaths have been from Crit into bleed into Death Blow or Crit into Goblet/Whatever into Death Blow.

Enemies shouldn't be able to crit, it adds unnecessary frustration to this game.
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>>170466768
>>170466552

If you read though her backs in the dialogue file, it shows she's just a spoiled daddy's girl.

Besides, I don't see anyone complaining about the crusader bringing a sword along, a weapon rendered even more obsolete by the invention of firearms.
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>>170469396
>RNG fucks a guy over once, endless salt
>Forgets all the times RNG gently cupped his balls with generous criticals, great drops, and clutch Death's Door saves

Stay bad, stay mad
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>>170470941
Yeah but a big holy sword might actually offer some benefit over a gun while fight skeletons and eldritch abominations, a matchlock is objectively inferior to a flintlock.

Though I guess the arbelast, that absolute madnig, does use a fucking arbelast which is weaker than a gun and takes just about as long to reload so fuck it.
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>>170471581
Hush now, it's just a fit of the 'tisum. This too shall pass.
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>>170470869
Doesn't sound like that's what happened to him, but I've also had that happen to me. I disagree though, it would be massively unfair for only the player to be able to crit.
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>>170470158
>because it happened on turn 1
See this kids? This is what happens if your heroes are slow pieces of shits.
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>>170470968
how gently are we talking here
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Shieeet mang, why is the hellion such a top-tier waifu? Not only is her design great but god damn she fucking reks everything.
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>>170471882
>Unfair

It's not about fairness because it's against the AI, but rather, RNG. Increase the average damage for enemies, but remove crits. Same damage income, but less RNG which is unnecessarily frustrating.

So in the long run you still receive the same amount of damage, but you don't lose characters because of crit+X with zero chance to retaliate.
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>>170472507
I think in that case you'd get a lot of players complaining about how small their numbers feel compared to the enemy's. Granted that system would be fair damage wise, but that also throws the stress economy a bit out of whack. Do players still heal stress from crits? That would be giving the player a fair amount of freebies. It's also a double edged sword in the sense that it would make healing far worse than it already is. Personally sounds unnecessary to me since you can already scale down monster crits if you feel the need.
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>>170468874
What description?
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>>170473129
Sounds like MAA to me.
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How does this work? Does he fool the enemy by stabbing him and the target?
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>tfw you straight up get someone killed by being negligent of negative quirks
I feel like a fucking monster.


That aside, I feel one of the things RH should work on is how quirks gains are determined after a dungeon: they should absolute relate more sensically to what went on in the mission. If my MAA had a shitty, traumatic time in the Warrens, that would ideally be reflected on his character sheet.

Chris Bourassa was a podcast one time where the host started off with an anecdote which, after he'd experienced it, made him (the host) believe his Hellion had become a stress eater because of how he'd fed her during an affliction, and you could tell how uncomfortable Bourassa was having to skirt around the fact that this was bullshit.
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Killed my first Shambler on Stygian and got the Ancestor's Map on week 13.
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>>170441728
Occultist has insane crit. With about 1/5 to 1/4 chance to crit he can contribute even without attacking trinkets, none-the-less the extra damage he has on his attacks against eldritch.
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>>170473129
Master Sergeant's Plate at the blacksmith.

Thanks for reminding me to read Dungeon Meshi today.
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I guess I didn't notice I already got all the shambler trinkets. Looks like I don't have to fuck around with him anymore.
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>>170474342
>That aside, I feel one of the things RH should work on is how quirks gains are determined after a dungeon
I'm having a hard time getting more positive quirks than negative and trips to the weald rarely has unholy curio or often I get shitty quirks like stress faster or thick blooded. The only reliable way to lock in great quirks is to recruit heroes that innately have them despite the shitty ones they come with that can easily be taken out.

>>170475493
Incidentally, I have dungeon meshi and darkest dungeon reaction pics in the same folder.
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Should I trade heirlooms to upgrade the stagecoach in Stygian? I just saw the first Crusader since I started the run but I don't want to get rid of any level 1s or 2s. I could get rid of 3 busts and 12 crests to get 24 heroes on the roster. I read somewhere that it can set you back in Stygian
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>>170478378
I personally focus more on not losing heroes than getting more, but you have to make sure you have enough to beat the DD.
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>>170473526
he bill and teds it by reminding himself in the future to build a time machine then go back in time and leave a spear above the enemy

then he has to go to the back of the line to work on his time machine
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A man in /dadg/, doing it for free. Madness
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on a scale of 1-10, 10 being most important, how important are the Experienced Recruits upgrades for the Stagecoach?
Should I give them priority over stress relief/sanitarium/upgrade buildings when they become available?
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>>170481426
lul, i asked that question
kinda sorry the guy got warned, got a small laugh outta the reply
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>>170478378
There isn't much point in having a large roster size on Stygian, since you just need 16 to get all the darkest dungeon quests done. I only brought mine to 20 pretty late in the game in case I needed to train a replacement hero or Vvulf demanded a sacrifice, but luckily neither were necessary.
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>>170481490
0/10, complete waste of resources. Prioritize literally anything else over that.
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>>170481490
Only a boon for late game or those who lose lots of heroes and don't want to level up more.
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>>170435096
I got my first party wipe yesterday thanks to the brigand pounder.
Fuck this dude and his last minute dodge, that fucked up a fight that was smooth af
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>>170481426
and yet angry screen picture man has not got hit.

is it you angry screen man?

are you the butthurt mod?

Am i going to get b&
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>>170481426
Obviously the mod know what's the GR is for better than you.
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>>170485660
Obviously she's for forcing to her knees and using those lips to service dicks.
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>>170486102
reported :^)

>>170481490
nice to have because it saves you money (they come with all skills leveled up and weapon/armor at their max level) and makes you not care when they die since there are no sunk costs
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Slowly
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>>170483097
why?
this >>170488106 sounds really convenient
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I failed my first Stygian quest and lost out on 9 deeds and 9000 gold along with the dodge cloak. I feel like the run is over now.

How many failed quests can I have?
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>>170490001
Looking at it now, it's not nearly as expensive as it was before, so it isn't as bad of an investment as it used to be. Still, it's only really useful for shortening the time it takes to grind up replacement heroes, and it's better to just not let them die in the first place. The odds for getting higher-level experienced recruits aren't that bad, but if you're looking to replace a specific class, you probably won't get the one you want.

For saving money you're better off using your busts to upgrade the sanitarium instead.
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>vet hag PBD
>PD-Jest-Crusader-Hellion
>fucking DMG and DODGE debuffs I wasn't expecting
>wipe
I have NO IDEA what I was thinking.

All I know is I've got a headache and need to take a break for a long while.
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>>170491517
sure bud, no one _should_ die, but they do. We're all overconfident from time to time, or end up with a bad luck string of enemy crits.

>For saving money you're better off using your busts to upgrade the sanitarium instead.
WAT

there's literally no reason to ever use the sanitarium until you're swimming in cash

GR and PD can heal any disease, and why would you bother spending so much $$$ to lock in/delete traits until you have more than 100k?

Where busts are considered, I'd prioritize the abbey, then the stagecoach, then the sanitarium
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>>170491412
It doesn't matter how many quests you fail, as long as you get enough heroes upgraded in time to beat the darkest dungeon. I had to abandon four quests on my Stygian save, one of them on week 3 that killed my starter Vestal and Plague Doctor. I was still able to beat the game by week 53 without letting anyone else die until DD4.
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>>170491412
If it's any consolation I got excited and went into the DD on week 36 before I was ready. Lost myself two level 5 houndmasters.
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>>170492563
>why would you bother spending so much $$$ to lock in/delete traits until you have more than 100k?
uhhh
do you play on radiant or something? why would you ever have 100k?
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>>170496265
I'm a hoarder.
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>>170496265
Because I enjoy grinding and am on week 90. I only managed to fully upgrade my town two in game weeks ago, actually, so I was kinda going for that achievement.

Point stands - upgrading weapons and skills takes a lot of money, so locking in/erasing traits was never worth it to me until this point.
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>>170497103
>am on week 90
The game ends on week 86 on stygian so your point is subpar
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>>170497227
I think you've missed the point of games.
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>>170497391
I think you're a drooling retard
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>>170436121
>Weakening curse is situational
Yes, it's used in the situation where a swinetaur or a giant exists.
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>>170428092
Anon, I have something for you, I did my best, I hope you all like it.
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>>170498131
>not replacing the brigand's face with the jew meme
7/10, it's ok, but if you applied yourself, it could be truly great
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>>170492563
>sure bud, no one _should_ die, but they do. We're all overconfident from time to time, or end up with a bad luck string of enemy crits.
Deaths can almost always be prevented just by knowing when to cut your losses and roll for a retreat. Heroes dying are a bigger waste of resources than failing a quest, so it's always better to fail a quest than it is to lose a hero, unless they're fresh off the stagecoach. Situations where a death is completely out of your control are pretty rare, and just up to really bad luck. That said, if they're happening often enough that experienced recruits are saving you a meaningful amount of time and money, you're doing something wrong.

>there's literally no reason to ever use the sanitarium until you're swimming in cash
You should always be swimming in cash. Especially with the new economy changes, money's a complete joke. Antiquarians make it a laughingstock. The only time you'll be taking a significant hit to your income is when you're buying level 5 armor/weapons and maxing out skills, but even then you have a mountain of trinkets to sell, and an infinite amount of gold waiting for you in dungeons. Aside from upgrading skills and equipment, quirk management is the only other way to improve your heroes directly. It isn't necessary to beat the game, but it's makes things a lot easier in the long run.

>GR and PD can heal any disease
And clearing the back row first, bringing stress-healers, and having good camping skills can heal any stress you get in dungeons. That doesn't mean the abbey's obsolete. Curing diseases in the sanitarium is a convenience, for when you can't have your doctors and robbers babysit everyone's health.

>Where busts are considered, I'd prioritize the abbey
Ew.

>>170496265
Having a lot of money like this is normal, unless you're spending too much on stress-relief or your heroes are getting their level 5 upgrades.
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>>170501652
Throwing randos into dungeons for pitch black runs for fun and profit is greatly sped up by experienced stagecoach arrivals
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What's the best set up to grind fat stacks and also survive most medium level dungeons?
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>>170502143
GR/GR/GR/Auntie
Run it pitch black with crit trinkets
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>>170502301
And if I have no crit trinkets?
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>>170502681
Moon rings.
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>>170498131
>>170499515
I can make the edit for a small fee...
A great question arises, how should one rename the skill tho?
"A sheckle a day keeps the goyim away" ?
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>>170502123
Not that anon, but that's not an acceptable strat on Stygian. Experienced arrivals does help if you fall behind after a very bad run though, even if you should be able to avoid that by the time you're running Stygian files.
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>>170501652
>Deaths can almost always be prevented just by knowing when to cut your losses and roll for a retreat.
yeah, yeah, I know, but I haven't played the game in a while, and there have been cases where I've really wanted a certain trinket and have pushed on in some stupid hope to achieve it when I shouldn't have. That's what gets me to make mistakes, personally.

>You should always be swimming in cash.
Hmm, I prioritized heirlooms over cash for the first year, so I never had too much with the weapon and skill upgrades. Only when I had my town leveled up to a good place did my bank account start building up.

>Curing diseases in the sanitarium is a convenience, for when you can't have your doctors and robbers babysit everyone's health.
100% true, but it's not that expensive even if you haven't spent the heirlooms to level it up.

>>Where busts are considered, I'd prioritize the abbey
>Ew.
Do you enjoy losing money and or trinkets to wild nights at the bar? Had that happen too often for my liking.

>>170502301
This
>>170502681
You'll probably still survive, but may want to invest in some healing camp skills. Sometimes I sub in a plague doctor to heal blight/bleed instead of the auntie. Arby may work too, especially since her camp heals are so good.

>>170502846
I think it's spelled shekel if you do decide to do this
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>>170503236
>Only when I had my town leveled up
Meant to say: only when I had my heroes leveled up
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>>170498131
>>170499515
>>170502846
Whats even the point, they have merchant noses by default already.
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>>170503236
Apparently you can lose trinkets at the abbey too, now. Devs didn't want one to be preferable over the other.
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>>170503875
Huh, I can't recall seeing that happen, but perhaps that's what they mean by pic related and the localization strings (even though I play in english) just aren't there yet?
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>>170503875
>>170504243
Yeah they just added that recently. Probably haven't gotten around to fixing all the text issues yet due to how many things they're working on right now after GDC.
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>>170504243
Go to localization folder and run the 1KB Localization auto run to get rid of that annoying teal text.
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Ok the happy merchat edit is done, but running CQ to override the horrendous PNG compression of photoshop (Darkest Dungeon fucks with the animations otherwise) spelled the doom fir my 12$ dollar trash can rig.

Its already 3am so I'm posting it tomorrow I guess.
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>>170506752
Thanks for trying m8.
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>>170506752
Thanks d00d, looking forward to it. Sleep well.
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Anyone been doing any challenge runs? I'm running doggo man only on Stygian and it's been going pretty damn well so far.
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It's me again anons, post your shitty ideas for Darkest Dungeon.
> New mimic enemy that disguises itself as curios that are usually almost interacted with like free torches, chests, etc. Has small details like bumps or cuts to differentiate with normal curios. Acts like a trap when interacted with and has a chance to surprise. Just a tanky biter.
> New Warrens boss that summons weak minions and interacts with their corpses to use. Such as body armour (Prot and HP), ATK buffs (body club), Meat Walls (Guard + Space blockage) or Stress and Debuffs (Throwing corpses).
> More insect enemies in the Weald, such as massive eldritch Mosquitoes, Beetles, Centipedes and etc.
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>>170508727
How did you configure that?

4 man houndmaster teams or just one?

Why?

I have so many questions.
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>>170509935
> More insect enemies in the Weald, such as massive eldritch Mosquitoes, Beetles, Centipedes and etc.
go fucking fuck yourself
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>>170510646
What's wrong anon, scared of some bugs?
:^)
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>>170509935
One step behind m8, already working on the mimics.
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>>170510542
All Houndmaster teams for every dungeon. I wanted a more challenging run and it seemed like a good compromise between feasible and difficult without getting tedious. I played around with a few "x only" comps after seeing an anon post some stuff from his Vestal only playthrough, but Houndmaster seemed the most enjoyable at the time so that's what I went for.
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>>170511293
Definitely workable since they have that self heal. I've pondered doing a GR only run for a while but don't think I could do it since so many things have high PROT at L5.

>>170510948
Die in a fire

I'd recommend millipedes instead of centipedes, I find them more creepy for some reason
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>>170511754
The self heal certainly helps. Unfortunately you can't use it in first position so if you get caught in a bad battle you need to prepare a party shuffle to heal your frontman or guard him and party for no AOE. I actually tried a pure BH run a while ago and it went well for the most part. GR would be a fair bit harder due to her stun being weaker and positionally limited, as well as not having mark synergy. It's probably possible if you stack speed trinkets hard and get really crafty with your turn choices.
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>>170509935
A dungeon with light level being its gimmick. So most enemies would have abilities that make it darker, and you'd have to deal with keeping the lights on, because below a certain light level the enemies morph into much more powerful enemies with more abilities, but at high light they're generally weak-average strength foes.

Stuff like floating clusters of glowing eyes menacing in the dark, and other shadow-related things.

>Eldritch mosquitoes

Eyy, that's like that thing I doodled the other day
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>>170509935
>>170513970

>monsters that drop good trinkets, or lots of antiquarian type loot, but only show up if one or more heroes are afflicted.
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>>170509935
>>170513970
>Eldritch mosquitoes
So Crimson Court?
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>>170514218
>>170513970
>>170509935
> New changes to Pitch Darkness mechanics
> At low light, you will lose track of enemy unit debuffs, buffs and some of their resistances
> In pitch darkness, you will no longer be able to freely see enemy units and all information regarding them, their positions and your own units positions.
> Empty spaces can appear in unit spaces.
> After everyone's turns have been played out, all party positions are shuffled.
> Can get rid of this by merely popping a torch or generating light from an ability.
> Bosses are of course not affected by this.
> New enemy that appears only in pitch darkness.
> Acts like a normal full enemy party in the area. Mimics all their usual abilities.
> When you pop a torch you see its true form and it's really just a massive pile of flesh and bone similarly designed as the Formless flesh. Shuffles your party if you reveal its form.
> Fight continues on and it's just uses its own set of abilities.
> If you don't use a torch at 25% HP, ingame sounds begin to distort as it dies.
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>>170509935
Special Event missions are honestly something that should be expanded on.
> Mini-bosses quests where it's just a very buffed version of a Champion enemy that you need to kill, or entirely new entire mini-bosses.
> Defense special events, where you merely stay in a single room (similar to Horrid Shrieker's) and fend off a few waves of enemies.
> An anon suggested in the previous thread, a massive party special event, where you are able to get more than 4 heroes to bring into a party to destroy a massive and powerful boss.
> Invasion mission's where you invade the depths of an Area and get assaulted by massive wave after wave of brutal enemies, in order to siege a boss. Essentially your VVulf.
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>>170516254
I really like that survival waves idea. That would be baller as fuck. Maybe even like another game type just for that. You pick your team of 4. Supply up. See how long you can make it
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>>170516254
>>170516851

I think the Fire Emblem games had certain campaigns where you would need two pick two teams to fight at the same time. Maybe DD could have something like that. For example, it could have a lich type boss where you have to send one team to kill the lich itself, and the other to kill the it's soul-hidey-place (which is of course guarded by some gruesome monster.) That way, you can't just rely on a single A-team, you need two sets of good warriors to take it on.
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>Mission Length: Short
ok
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>>170428092
How decent is the guide for the OP? Would most of these builds be okay for DD or are they just to get a gist of what to pick? I just seem to get fucked over hard before I can make any headway in this damn game.
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>>170520678
the imgur link builds are fucking atrocious, don't even bother with them. you're better off asking for help here.
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>>170520398
I had a couple of missions like those where everything was in your way including the fucking collector. Doing medium missions are sometimes even shorter depending on your luck.
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>>170520785
I just like to imagine them getting all prepped up for the quest and coming back to the Hamlet in 15 minutes
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>>170520783
That is a shame but I hate being a bother for every little question. Is there really no other somewhat current guide or person who plays the game well?
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>>170521009
not that I know of, unfortunately. I'm working on one myself at the moment, but no idea when it'll be done considering how fucking lazy I am.
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>>170521009
honestly man most of us are happy to help

there was a pretty decent curio interaction image floating around, but i didn't save it
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>>170521009
At least asking questions keeps the thread alive.
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Post builds you have in barracks RN

>Vestal/HM/HM/MaA
>Crusader/Crusader/Crusader/Crusader
>Abom/Abom/Jester/Jester
>GR/GR/GR/Auntie
>Occultist/BH/BH/MaA
>PD/BH/Hellion/Hellion
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>>170509935
A total overhaul mod where you play as the ancestor, maybe first two stages. You go through a number of dungeons, fighting champion parties, before reaching the hamlet and fighting the Heir. Who wouldn't want to be an eldritch abomination?
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>>170515854
go away satan
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>>170521009
>is there really no other person who plays the game well
is that really a question you needed to ask

the game is pretty easy even on darkest, let alone radiant. Ask questions, get answers, read mechanics, ask for group ideas or trinket help if you're struggling
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>>170524386
PD/Vest/HWM/Cru
Arb/Occ/HM/BH
HM/Abom/Abom/Abom
Vest/Jester/Leper/Hellion
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>>170525880
>HM AB AB AB
I smell a virtue scummer
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>>170526547
No actually, have never even gotten close to it
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>>170526547
fite me

champion shambler gets assblasted by virtued abos
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what happens if you lose all heroes and cant recruit more than 2? game over?
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>>170527938
I think 4 arrive, at least that's the case if you lose the tutorial
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>>170527191
shambler gets assblasted by a single abom spamming rake. if you need to virtue scum to kill shamblers you are a shitter.
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>>170492730
>>170493702
It was really fucking stupid as well, I was around halfway done my first long Ruins run, still had 2 campfires, was in perfect shape, had plenty of food and torches, and instead of completing the dungeon first I got overconfident and challenged a Shambler. I figured I would get fucked up but still had 2 campfires to finish the dungeon and wanted to maximize food for camping so didn't want to go through more food checks than needed backtracking. The fucking Shambler had just over half health left, used Odorous Advancement and placed a 150% buffed Tentacle in the back, a new one in front, and him in the middle. My Crusader got hit for like 12 by Clapperclaw and I ran.

The initial shuffle fucked me, if my damn PD had stayed in the back and been able to blight it may have gone differently. But she was sent to the front. At least she had Bloody Herbs and Incision but it wasn't enough.
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>>170528104
I don't need it, just like I don't need 4 jesters with slugger and various speed quirks

but sometimes its nice to indulge and dispatch that fag in brutal fashion
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I want to make a meme team run, with rank 1 occ, rank 2 vestal and rank 4 MAA, but what do I put in rank 3? Jester? BH?
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>>170531275
Crusader without holly lance
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>>170531452
nah, he can't even battle heal from there. might as well bring a leper
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>>170531275
melee PD with incision buff vapors solo stun and heal
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Interested in trying out PBD.
What's it like compared to vanilla? What should I look out for?
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>>170531776
that is literally what I wanted to do at first but my level 6 PD died in DD 4
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Alright, what about this? The antiquarian is only level 5 and fragile as well, for extra memes. Vestal and MAA are both hard skinned, making this the highest prot team I have ever seen.

>MAA does not even have 4 skills he can use from rank 4

Jesus fucking christ, what was Red Hook thinking with Guardian's Shield? Maybe it's a mistake and they wanted it to be rank 1, but they fucked up? It makes no fucking sense.
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>>170532360
Alright, let's go.
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>>170521009
The guide points you at the right direction. Although you're better off asking most of your questions here. Be warned through, some shitposters here will give you shitty advice to meme on you.
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>>170533775
sick damage bro
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>>170534463
>>170533775
gg ez

Profane scroll vestal is pretty decent. But rank 4 MAA is absolutely useless.
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After the radiant update, anyone else experiencing weird stuttering and frame dropping?

Like for me, every time a crit happens, the frames bomb to something like 10-15 and after that it's back to perfect 60.

It's kind of annoying, especially when the rest of the game runs smoother than ever.
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>lose party
>become depressed
>abandon/delete save and start over later
I am a very rational individual.
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>>170538430
Party wipe= four empty seats
Unless you're playing Stygian, they're replaceable anon. You might end up getting four heroes that are better.

Ideally, you want to lock in heroes with whatever good quirks that they come with and the ones that actually have the best optimized quirks tailored to their class (quickdraw on jester or unholy slayer on crusader) are the ones that are hard to replace. There's always hope for Beyond event.
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>>170509935
>Bloated corpse enemy that bursts in to a group of 4 spiders when you kill it
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>>170520678
http://imgur.com/a/8GS6r

This is pretty good for curio interactions

I wouldn't call the OP guide "atrocious". It's pretty okay
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>>170524386
Try Auntie/Auntie/HWM/HWM

Infinite ripostes
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hope you fuckers are as happy as the merchant now, even had to re make the FX for it to adapt to the new model outline.
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recent confidence must be taken into accounrt
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>>170542448
excellent
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>>170542448
Ay that looks great. GG anon.
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>>170542448
That sure is stressful.
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>>170541601
Why ever run two aunties
I wabt to run a 4HWM team though, just to see pig drummers kill themselves
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>>170544158
confidence has been checked
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Does the Radiant mode use your save from live if you opt into the beta?

I'm mid to late game right now, picking it up for the first time in 4 months
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>>170554535
No. You choose your gameplay mode at the start of the file, you can't change it mid game.
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>>170554535
>Does the Radiant mode use your save from live if you opt into the beta?
I'm not sure I understand the question. Why would you use the Beta? The update has been done for like a month.
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I finished the game and farm shamblers for last 3 trinkets
I am bored
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>>170554986
Ah okay

>>170555173
Oh really? I just checked the website and saw something about open beta for the radiant update, didn't know it was done.
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>>170555324
Run random with level 0s and write stories about what happens
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>>170555623
Oh so that other anon was right then? Yeah that's how it works, but once you get the hang of it the game goes much faster. The update's 100% done so you can just download it by updating your game.
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I've heard about losing trinkets...but winning them?
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Is GR + PD + HWM + auntie a decent no healer short dungeon setup? I figure you spec out the HWM or PD spd to go first, plague up back row and duelist advance 4th row, then get GR to lunge and attack 3rd row, I reckon that would finish off backrow before they had a chance to move and leave first row at the mercy of your strongest attacks (like PBS) and ripostes.

Still fairly new at the game.
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When will RH start getting more artists on their team? As far as I know Bourassa is the only guy they have.
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>>170557527
>fuckers that look like the shark giants from bloodborne

Noooo nononononononono nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope no no no no no no

NO

NO YOU STOP.
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>>170557483
Your anti is gonna get her shit slapped by frontrows real hard, and with GR/HWM as the second row it's gonna hurt

I'd get an MAA to rampart every turn, keeps your GR/HWM ready to slap some shit, staves off damage.
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>>170558068
Just hit him with an shamans bone blade and watch them go to work with each other, easy Rakuyo (but if you actually use rakuyo in pvp then fuck you)
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>>170558161
Even if you max out spd so you can quickly shuffle auntie out of front? The whole plan is to kill the real threats (backrow) before they even have a turn.
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>>170558218
Nah son. You cant even imagine how much I tried to fight the bastards in the well before I eventually managed to kill both of them.

I dont ever wanna experience that hell ever again. Not even kos was as bad as those fuckers.
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>>170558463
>Sharks harder than OoK
I will never understand why people find those fuckers hard, the fact that there's two of them makes them stupidly easy.
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FCUK shamblers
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>>170558605
Nigga without cheesing them with a bone shaman stick, they're 10 times more vicious than kos. Especially with a slow weapon like the burial blade.
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>>170559474
It's not really cheesing if you're using a mechanic built into the game the way it is intended. Not using it is just stupid.
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>>170557527
PLEASE tell me this is being added to the game. The gladiator-style fishing net idea is fucking excellent, and I can only imagine how its abilities would be used. Seems like a really neat, thematically fitting fishman size 2 type monster for the cove.
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>>170560072
It's fanart that all the RH staff retweeted. I can imagine it being added in mods.
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>she put my transformed Abomination into the pot after I spent the whole dungeon trying to keep his stress around 0
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>>170559591
Yeah but there's a difference in difficulty between using an item that lets them fight each other and going on them the same way you would go on any other enemy.
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how does a skeleton jelly bleed?
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>>170561534
It bleeds skelly jelly.
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Is it bad to keep doing short runs in Stygian? The trinkets for the medium ones I'm seeing aren't as good but it feels like wasting time.
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got free sanitarium this turn.

what should I rather lock in on a Crusader, 10% dmg over 75 light or +2 speed over 75 light?
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>>170443691
Eldritch killing occulvetist is optional for success. Cursing occultist in the weald and warrens isn't.
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>>170561534
Slowly, gently.
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>>170563584
Speed.
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>>170562338
Medium champion runs are manageable in ruins and cove.
I've finished Stygian with 0 deaths except 2 deathblows on heart. Had Vvulf event and like 3 champion crows.
That's with light on of course, pitch black is a whole different story that includes corridor shamblers so you can't really change your party to weak one that can't kill it.
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>>170561534
Probably has a thin membrane that you punctured. That's how I always pictured it.
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what's more important, Guild or Blacksmith?
Crests are limiting me right now.
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>be noob
>doing my first lvl 3 dungeon
>hyped as fuck
>gf playing skyrim while talking to her sister on the phone
>she ends up in a argument
>gets annoyed
>gets fucking pissed
>I keep playing, minding my own business
>3 rooms cleared, is all good
>gf is silent
>walks over to me
>starts getting really flirty in a angry manner
>I disregard it
>keep playing, 5 rooms down and got some decent loot aswell
>gf starts kissing me all over
>holds my neck and tonguefucks my mouth
>I use my firewood
>put my laptop down
>throw her down beside me on the couch
>TEAR off her panties
>frenchkiss that moist muff like there's no tomorrow
>she cums, doesn't care a bit and pulls me towards her
>unbuttons my jeans
>in one swift motion slide my dick out of my boxers and into her tight snatch
>I fish out her massive jugs from her bra
>suck on those diamond hard nipples, roll them with my tongue while pumping away at her cunt
>cum buckets inside her
>It'sOnlyBeggining
>put her on my lap and play with her asshole
>dick is diamonds again within seconds
>she rides me for 20 minutes straight, panting like a beast while I lick the sweat in her cleavage
>she must've came like 5 times during this
>(this isn't really impressive on my part, I'm not bragging, SHE is just ridicolously easy to get off)
>throw her ass on the kitchen bench
>pound her from behind with all my force
>her ass jiggles like a motherfucker
>have the hardest orgasm of my life, came for what felt like a minute
>pretty sure I let out a girlish moan
>she says we aren't nearly done
>sucks on my fingers and makes me go all North Fist ATATATATATATATATATATA on her now swollen pussy while jerking me off
>hard again within seconds, this bitch is a fucking semen demon cumbender
>she sits on the countertop, facing me
>her cunt is so swollen I can't get my completely average sized dick inside, it's fucking nuts
>pour some olive oil on that diq (thank you kitchen supplies)
>I pound away while lifting her ass
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>>170565254
>she cums so hard her feet kick out instinctively
>knocks my laptop to the floor
>FUCK!
>it lands on it's screen, a plate on the back flies off and reveals the inner electronics
>2 seconds of awkward silence
>still hear the camping soundtrack
>continue fucking like rabbits
>after another 15 minutes of pounding away like a Bounty Hunter on a size 2 marked target throw her down on the couch again
>wrap her knees behind her neck and get BALLS deep in that tight, wet CUNT!
>brace my feet on the armrest on the other end of the couch
>use my entire body to drive my stake into her mound
>deafening slaps, my balls slap so hard against her asshole I almost (ALMOST) can't take it any longer from the sheer pain alone
>she screams like a fucking banshee as she convulses in orgasm after orgasm
>pretty sure I finally managed to give her a double-orgasm aswell
>she spasms so hard I'm kicked off her
>she says she can't take it anymore, she's about to pass out
>that means I'll be able to game the entire night uninterupted!
>stand over her, sucking with the force of a thousand black holes on her nipples while rubbing her clit with sonic speed
>she cums yet again
>tells me she can't stand up
>LIFT her up and place her over the countertop again
>rellentless pounding doggystyle again, but this time slapping her ass as hard as I can, my palms fucking hurts as I'm writing this
>making sure she'll get the sickest bruises ever while I'm at it
>burn through my very last reserves to put her over the fucking edge one last time
>as she tightens up around my dick I hold her close and fall backwards onto the couch
>lets out a massive, gooey queef
>she shudders and pants while in my arms
>crack open a Brooklyn Lager I strategically put in the freezer just for this occasion
>it's perfectly chilled
>carry that bitch to the bedroom
>wrap her in and kiss her goodnight
>go back, fix my pc
>finish using my camping skills and carry on

So... How's your night /dadg/?
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>>170558414
>>170558161
Antiquarians are always using guard (on hwm) which makes 2 positions of your party ripostable.
Antiquarian takes no damage from single target attacks with the guard on. And the target with guard takes less damage because of high prot.
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>>170565368
>>170565254
>Wasting precious time fucking your girlfriend instead of finishing the dungeon.

Thats why you're a noob at this game.
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>>170565254
>>170565368
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>>170556192
Read the gambling and abbey description. You can get very rare trinkets from there.
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>>170531894
PBD is honestly just shit.
Like bad fan mode.
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>>170565598
Is she holding me back, should I dump her?

>>170565629
You got me man, I'm a lonely virgin, that explains why my appartment is full of smelly fucking candles and why I own a copy of Skyrim for PS4!
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>>170565896
Yeah dump her.

Get a better plague doctor waifu.
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>>170564978
Weapon upgrades = speed.
Armor = dodge.

Skills can wait.
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>>170564586
I'm on Apprentice right now. I just did a few medium runs and got way more loot and heirlooms. I forgot how much of a difference it made.
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>>170561534
polymeric mixtures of excess viscosity necessary for standing gelatinous material relies on long-chain interactions which can be physically (or chemically) broken down, lowering viscosity.

The outer layer would likely be a "skin" similar to pudding skin due to vapor pressure loosing dissolved moisture, when cutting through the outer dehydrated layer a good portion of the agitated polymeric mixture would leave through the cut

I am a polymer chemist and this is my professional opinion
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>>170566205
Before champion dungeons it doesn't matter at all. There is no point in doing short ones.
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>>170566141
the speed difference between a lvl1 weapon and a lvl5 weapon is 2.

Isn't the higher accuracy on upgraded skills more important?
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Also for the ones who want some advanced management - always do that event for free sanitarium in Weald. You can lock a lot of quirks for free.
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>>170565254
>>170565368
FUCKING NORMIE!!! OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>170565896
You're holding yourself back. If I could I'd dismiss the both of you.
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>Decide to go for the Necromancer Lord
>Make a party of a Leper, Crusader, Vestal, and Plague Doctor
>Surprised the guys in the first battle so the spiders went down swiftly
>Get to my second battle
>All the enemies get initiative before me
>Spilling wine causes NINE fucking damage and it was all over Reynauld
>Stressful incantation on Reynauld
>Cultist brawler targets Reynauld
>Crit
>Then a Graveyard slash
>Crit
>Instantly makes my full health and 10 stress Reynauld with maxed out stress and at death's door before anyone could act
>Affliction check
>Many fall in the face of chaos...
>Bounces back as vigorous and self heals on his turn getting himself off of deaths door with his virtue perk
>Attack
>Crit 50
There's some ruins to be cleansed.
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>>170567801
>Reynauld on Death's Door right before he's level 6
>Start of the round
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>>170567801
I just like to imagine some incredibly cinematic moment where everyone is weak and wounded and down on their last leg and Reynauld being motherfucking holy wrath incarnate tanks every single attack from the enemies and in the moment where everything is silent and everyone thinks he will break, he is reborn with holy light and fire and charges headfirst into the enemies, turning them to ash.
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>>170565368
Man, totally ruined the immersion of your first level 3. You better tell her to use a toy when it's your first level 5/DD mission or you better learn to multitask.
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>>170568165
It was like the game wanted punish me for bringing out my starting hero. I was shitting my pants that it went so south right away. Ended up crushing the Necromancer Lord handily.
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>>170568334
I'll send her to live with her parents when it's time for HoD
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>>170509935
Any hero that dies has a chance at coming back with a copy of their trinkets ready to fight you. The more that die the more you have to face. The highest level ones are always the first to come back.
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>>170565896
>I'm a lonely virgin, that explains why my appartment is full of smelly fucking candles and why I own a copy of Skyrim for PS4!

holy shit you fucking roasted him

I believe EVERYTHING you said.

>So... How's your night /dadg/?
Sm4sh tournament, haven't played the game in a year. We'll see how it goes.
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>>170509935
Any afflicted character in the hamlet has a chance to commit suicide at the beginning of the week if untreated, the chance is similar to deathblow resistance.
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>>170560315
Is Snarf kill?
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>>170573620
>Abusive characters have a chance in destroying an upgrade at the Hamlet
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>>170574801
>Selfish characters can permanently steal large sums of gold, heirlooms, or trinkets
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>>170574910
>Masochistic characters will block off dozens of heroes that week in one big bdsm orgy
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>>170575408
>Irrational characters will say:

hi every1 im new!!!!!!! holds up spork my name is katy but u can call me t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet random ppl like me _… im 13 years old (im mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein random again _^ hehe…toodles!!!!!

love and waffles,

t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m
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>>170575408
>Irrational characters will form your next mission party and you can't change it
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>>170575523
>>170575512
>Hopeless characters will browse /dadg/...
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>>170575512
[dismissing intensifies]
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>>170574632
"no"
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>>170575523
and they choose the mission
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>>170440856
fishing
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>>170576528
>Not putting a single damage trinket on a hellion
Why would you do this?
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>>170577285
>They can choose less than four members
>They can choose the Darkest Dungeon
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>>170441260
on the verge of snapping
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>>170465143
what does this represent exactly?
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>>170572957
locate your throw button
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>tfw you brought a terrible fucking team comp into a long cove mission because you leveled all your good teams first and now have to catch up the odds and ends bin
>tfw it actually did surprisingly well, 0 stress and no ones health ever dropped below 50% despite the fact it took over five turns to finish even the most basic bitch fights
I guess Vestal + PD + Hellion + Jester is somewhat viable, absolute shit at actually killing shit though.
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>>170532360
>locking Fated
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>>170579372
>locking Fated on a MaA
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>>170579372
>>170579493
>being an autistic minmaxer who doesn't know what FUN is
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>>170579372
>mfw gonna lock in Irrepressible on my based Cove occultist who's carried two expeditions with hail marry virtues
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>>170580040
>marry
Whoa, I'm retarded.
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>>170577472
I don't think I had any, I gave my Ethereal Crucifix to my BH but at that point I had few good trinkets. I just wanted my Hellion to stun on the way to the boss, the Abomination's Rage did a lot of the work.
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>>170552130
I tried running MaA and HWM with riposte once, but only one of them riposted on an area attack. Sad!

>>170557483
Sure, that will work on l1 and l3 dungeons. Hellion can be useful as well in slot 1 because of her heal bleed/blight ability and iron swan to hit the 4th row.

>>170567801
The same exact shit happened to me except I failed the affliction check and got my shit pushed in. I haven't gone back since.

>>170570963
I love it.

>>170575512
u y tak him 2 da bar? |

Or just copy scottish tweets.

>>170579668
>being unironically retarded and calling it fun
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>>170580336
>being unironically unironically autistic and calling people unironically retarded for having fun
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>>170579668
you know it's only a 10% chance, right? how often do you miss? like 5% of the time? so you locked in a perk that would only benefit you 0.5% of the time.

does fated even tell you when it turned a miss into a hit? i've never seen it do so.
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>>170580562
>does fated even tell you when it turned a miss into a hit?
No.
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Lock Deadly, Lurker, or wait for a better virtue to come along?
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>>170581208
I would just settle for Deadly -- it's not likely you'll happen to roll Precise Striker or Eldritch Slayer in its place.
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>>170581630
>precise striker
>crossnig
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>>170582598
That's not just melee skills, is it?

I thought it was just flat 3% crit?
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>>170557527
They hired another recently. Her name is Trudy Castle.
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>>170582961
Precise Striker is +3% Melee crit and Eagle Eye is +3% Ranged crit.
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>>170581208
Lock deadly, Arby is all about dem crits
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why are the leper's trinkets so shitty?
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>>170580181
it's a
>vestal glaring disapprovingly at everyone
Episode

The fuck, is that Kate Beaton doodling
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>>170583972
Redemption Armlet and Fortunate Armlet are good.
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>>170583972
berzerk mask is good for crit-staking, use it with berzerker charm for extra fast
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>>170583972
the crusader and vestal have the worst ones i think
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>>170565368
>after another 15 minutes of pounding away like a Bounty Hunter on a size 2 marked target
lost
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can you get more than 1 ethereal cruxifix ? that thing has no bussines being that good
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Post yfw it's a "team does only minimum damage" episode

I would post a more angry pic but I'm trying to do a champion run while everyone either misses or does negligible damage
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>>170583972
All his trinkets are pretty solid. There aren't any you couldn't get use out of at least.
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recommended parties for fighting this bitch?
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>>170589591
4 heterosexual women, go for the 4-hellion combo
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>>170589791
>Hellion
>hetero
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>>170589591
Shufflers that can do stuff in the back row. Crusader with holy lance is good for this, for example. Don't bring the Leper.
Low damage stuns, so that you can stun charmed heroes
You'll want debuff resist, and possibly stun vulnerability.
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>>170586132
>Vestal Scroll not top-tier when mixed with healing head
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>>170589151
I fire anyone who does this more than three times in a row, useless fuckers
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>>170586132
>swordsmans crest
>holy scroll
Most of the others are fairly forgettable but they have some -really- strong ones
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>>170589591
Anyone mobile or with a good ranged stun, preferably one that doesn't do damage. She's not dangerous alone, all you have to do is stun teammates, kill summoned creatures, and manage yourself from there.

Last time I fought her, I didn't have a mobile party which messed up my DPS when she attracted my frontliners. In addition, my stuns did damage, which is unnecessary damage to attracted members.

Crusaders are good (HOLY LANCE DONT FORGET IT) because they do extra damage since she's unholy, tend to heal for miniscule amounts of damage when charmed, and can get back to the front when they come back. Highwaymen and GRs are also decent selections, but they can fuck your party up since they can use any move while charmed.
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>>170590087
>#1 Hellion champion with L4 equipment, moonshine buff, skull idol buff for accuracy, and L3 Adrenaline buff
>Whiff, whiff, minimum, average damage

Fucking warrens dodge buffs, I'm appalled that I left that much damage undone
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>>170590505
what about Plague Doctor, Bounty Hunter, Crusader, and something else?
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>>170589591
I personally went with Arbalest, Occultist, Highwayman, and Bounty Hunter last time.
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>>170591246
I'd probably add in an Occultist with debuff resistance to heal and the hex to mark her for the rest of the team (she has a bit of dodge on higher difficulties) or an Arbalest if you think you can take her without a serious need to heal. Her attacks do little damage but can cause bleed, so you may want to consider how you'll be healing if you don't bring the Occultist.

She targets the person who has the least debuff resistance to charm, so figure out who that is and plan around it. And Holy Lance.
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>>170589591
BH with uppercut is great, assuming he isn't the one to get charmed he can stun your charmed hero and knock him behind her at the same time.
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Going against the 12# with a Vestal/Arb/BH/Hellion. Don't have any crit trinkets for thr Arb, what's the next best setup for her? I'm thinking Dismas' Head + Book of Relaxation.
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>tfw another Hellion with slugger roles up, but you're cool with two hellions and they also have slugger and warrior of light
>tfw you still need a few grave robbers to good quirks to roll up
Stop giving me what I already have dammit!
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>>170592221
Why not just use Flash Bang?
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S-should I do it? I've never fought a shambler before.
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>>170593920
Clapper claws might chew you up without healing, but three of those characters will chew the shambler up with a mark, and you still have your treats.
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>>170592680
likely you'll have him in pos 2, and if pos 1 gets flimflammed he won't be able to use flashbang
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>>170594364
I decided to run through the rest of the dungeon first and then I'd come back let, got into a really unlucky last fight, and now my guys would have no chance.
Fuck me.
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>>170594434
I often run him in position three. Don't tell me what to do.
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>>170577508
the wisdom of your ancestry

Play the game and you will understand
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>>170589591
holy water
Antiquarian as bait
popcorn
im serious
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>>170590059
>Turning Dazzling Light useless
>Essentially making one of your heroes a healbot that will be too slow to do anything of value and stresses out easily
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>>170598161
Judgement.
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>>170589791
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>>170583972

Complain about it here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdDqy1v16XpYUXmnKevenarRV1sdQAXQ4y4OfL2_ydYeb_1xQ/viewform?c=0&w=1

Maybe they'll buff his trinkets next update.
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>>170600869
>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdDqy1v16XpYUXmnKevenarRV1sdQAXQ4y4OfL2_ydYeb_1xQ/viewform?c=0&w=1
!! Thanks!
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>>170586132
u fukin wot m8? vestal has some of the best trinkets there are.

Probably agree about crusader though, haven't found any class-specific ones I'd take on him.
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>>170601238
The Crusaders 15% damage one is decent for awhile, or at least until you have both Dismas' Head and/or the Moon Ring. His stun trinket also gives 40% stun, but you always seem to have better options for stunners though.
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>ancient evil is gonna fuck up the world wihtout anyone knowing its even there
>due to the ancestors sacrifices a pan-generational duty is born to put it to sleep, extending what precious time humanity has on this land

How is he a bad guy again?
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>>170581208
>week 100
>still haven't touched DD1
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>>170603597
>week 91
>same
you are not alone
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>>170603702
Wasn't talking about myself
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>>170603735
>fuck you, then
also, how do you know he hasn't?
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>>170603702
>Week 55
>Still leveling all my lvl 0-2's, barely touched veteran missions
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>>170485396
>not killing the fuseman as soon as possible every turn
It's like you want to die.
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>>170603509
all the other bosses
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>>170607721
Without them making the perfect training ground for both heirs and heroes you would be forced to into DD with lvl0 faggots.

Face it anon, the ancestor gave all the tools for humanity to spit in the face of a god.
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>own multiple multiplayer games
>just want to dive dungeons for 4-5 hours after wage slaving
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>>170607872
Really makes you think...
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>>170608480
>Trying to find ways to bide my time until Crimson Court drops
>Don't want to do anything other than play DD
>Can't think of anything other than DD or Lovecraft
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okay you fucking niggers tell me this

how the living fuck can you complete champion tier long dungeons

when i get wiped in 2 rounds with a fully upgraded fucking setup where i cannot even do anything because the first round the fucking nigro piglet who throws spears deals 90% damage to 3 of my characters and applies blight

i cant even fucking outspeed that motherfucker with anything unless i specificly bring something that has a shitton of +spd shit on it but thats just dumb because then that shit will be not as good against other shit

LIKE HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE

FUCKING

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170608840
Are you me? I wish I could just will 20 days away so I didn't have to wait so long and had more info.
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>>170608643
>>170607872
>>170607721
>>170603509
Fucking retards, it's the Ancestors transgressions that materialized the heart of darkness. He literally created (or at least, pulled from another dimension) humanities doom, just by being an evil cunt.

He's a selfish, horrible cunt through and through.
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After 66 weeks, our first deaths finally happened.
Our goal was achieved, but it's with heavy hearts that our two remaining heroes returned home.
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>>170609102
you can outspeed 9 pretty easily with like a single feather crystal on a fast hero. hell, a fully leveled Plague Doctor already ties with him, could just give her one and have her stun his dumb ass turn 1.
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>picked a fight with the void monster
>lost my veteran melee people

Fucking shit, back to grinding and waiting for good raw recruits.

Also i fucking swear everytime its a trinket I want the game fucks me in the ass with RNG so that I have to retreat. Specifically fucking moon rings.
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>>170609102
git gud and remind yourself kouhai
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So is there any value to a position 4 Man at Arms? I have the guardian shield but it seems like a waste to have him just buffing and guarding a squishy like the Vestal.

Though I haven't tested it since a new MaA hasn't shown up yet.
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>>170615376
be patient, the trinkets will come and go but if you prioritize quests you know you'll succeed in by the time you see it again you'll probably have a beefed up team who can easily get it for you.
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>>170615775
No, put him in pos1
Guard is useful situationally, like in DD2, but rampart is good
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Should I? I'm trying not to use healers all the time in Stygian because I don't want to keep firing people who have higher resolve than 0.

Arbalest has the Ancestor's Bottle/Chirurgeons Charm
GR has Unerring/Warrior of Light, Sun Ring
Hellion is resolve 3 with Ethereal Crucifix
HwM has Dismas' Head/Berserk Charm

Scouting is at 85%

If I at least had Junia's Head I'd do this without even asking.
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Can you remove the Musket Mod V3 without it fucking up your Stage Coach? I installed it, ran localization, but the party comp names are still not displaying properly. I'd rather not use it at all, I'd fire my resolve 2 Musketeer and remove it if possible.
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dazed
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>Week 100
>Not even touched DD
>on radiant mode

Rate
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Help dadg.

I have a leper with a +5 ACC quirk, which is nice, but the dilemma i'm facing is whether i should lock it in, amongst other potential sueful quirks for him (corvid's eye, the 3% crit on melee skills quirk, and ____slayer, potentially eldritch slayer).

Of course I can only have 3 of these, so what do you recommend going for?
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once the hamlet is fully upgraded i should just loot gold right?
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>>170615274
Not him but that fucker is my worst nightmare in this game.

After turn 1 then what? You cant deal 50-60 dmg on turn 2 to him unless you get lucky with focus fire crits so you cant take him out, and the other fuckers in the warrens are just as tanky and dangerous.

I got surprised by him and a centaur champ, and the stress piglet the other day, I had to run from that encounter because everyone was nearly dead.
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>>170624001
yeah

you can start locking in quirks and stuff now
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gotta decide which mission I do.
Should I do Swine Prince for Cleansing Crystal or Wizened Hag for Focus Ring?
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>>170628439
Swine Prince.
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>>170627309
its so fucked up that i can hardly get rid of the negative ones to start locking in good ones because at the end of each dungeon i get negative quirks no matter if i level up or not

well basically its a coinflip
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>>170629696
You are supposed to use new recruits while you remove all the bad quirks. If you keep running them so often you will never remove them all.
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Who /gives up when bad things happen/ here?

I'd have enjoyed playing today, but I'm so ashamed of how bad I've done recently and beat up over certain preventable deaths that I'm avoiding the game entirely.
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>>170623806
You can make up for the ACC quirk with trinkets
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>>170630315
Same. I'm fucking awful at video games in general. The guilt is slowly eating me
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>>170630315
I'm garbage at nearly everything I do. Ironically fucking up in DD while annoying doesn't cause me to want to quit. I woke up now after losing a prized Hellion and Crusader and really just want to grind two new ones.

Meanwhile supposedly 'fun' casual games like Overwatch leave me feeling depressed when I fuck up and now I basically just play until I lose once then stop.
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Fug, Dismas just died. Got a level cap removal event and decided to go for a dark run veteran with champion. In first fight got critted 3 times in a row while never critting anyone else; Reynald got 90 stress. 2/3ds in a Shambler popped up, scrambled everyone and clapperclaw'd Dismas (again, a half health crit). The blight did him in on the first DD check. I guess I didn't remind myself.
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>>170638048
I lost my Dismas at some point too. Then I got him back via revival event.

Then he died again. Fuck you Dismas.
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>>170638048
>tfw first run
>tfw you dismissed Reynauld because he kept steal shit and it was cheaper to just replace him
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>>170639176
Honestly thought that were just some randomly generated recruits. It wasn't until I looked up the achievements I felt pretty bad. I started kicking myself.
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>>170639554
In the end, they never found redemption...
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>>170639554
yeah same i just threw both of them out kek
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>>170611741
spoiler:
>humanity, and pretty much all living thing is basically just a pimple and portusions on the godly fetus that is earth itself
>this is somehow the ancestors fault.

All he did was realize the truth (which the "heir" does too after completeing DD, which is why you see those weird shits), which cost him his sanity and now he wants to end it all by awakening the thing, for which he enlisted the help of "heirs" (maybe random chumps who thought they got a wrong letter they can cash in "ruin has come to our family. [...] the great family of man") who keeps feeding it wannabe heroes.
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Do you guys think it's looking good? Took me like 8 hours to make it (I made her a custom monster brain AI as well).
What would you like to see?
Attacks? ideas? Other monsters?
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>>170643058
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>>170643058
yes
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is there a better feeling than fighting the Collector with double Leper? fuck your stupid head toys you eldritch punk
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>>170589467

"Get use out of" is fine, but Leper is pretty straightforward in that he needs accuracy and damage and that's it.

You could argue making all the Very Rare Hero trinkets these silver bullets that removes their main weakness is just a cop-out design choice - but they basically do this for some and not others.

No reason Berserk Mask can't be -prot in exchange for accuracy and crit chance, instead of what it is.
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>>170609102

You're not using a Plague Doctor with +Speed quirks and stun trinkets.

It's really that simple.
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>>170644572
Not like prot matters. If you can't net negative prot then it just doesn't matter.
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>>170644572
>>170645205

Give it minus move resist instead.
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>>170644572
Didn't someone make a post literally just like this a couple months ago?
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>>170643058
>>170643387
A back row attack that gives like 10% chance to give deviant tastes to every member of the group
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>>170626798
if you don't have enough people who can quickly hit 51 damage in the 4th slot then your party composition is shit. here's an example:
PD Stun -> Arbalest Sniper Shot -> Hellion Iron Swan -> MAA Bolster -> repeat now that you can outspeed him
it's really not that hard if you build a decent party for where you're going
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You may only post here if Reynauld and Dismas are still alive in your party
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>>170648606
Only lost about 6 heros. Four of them are Vestals and I don't know why. Dismas and Raynauld I'm saving for the last mission for the achievement so they're still alive.
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>>170648606
alive and well for now
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Why is the Vita port so fucking terrible

I feel like I just wasted 21 euros
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>>170643387
Looks like a legit variant of the crome if you ask me, wouldn't tell it apart from a real release.
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>>170650116
Only the controls are awkward. I don't know what they were thinking with the controls. Otherwise it is fine.
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Darkest Dungeon is objectively a bad game.
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>>170651118
no it's comfy
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>>170651840
Slowly, gently, this is how a thread is taken.
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>>170642660
Well, at least he gave us the opportunity to kill the thing while it still gestate.
Once the manor cleansed and secure it may serve as a foothold, to send teams deeper inside it, to find its vitals organs and wreck havoc there.
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Should I wait until a good trinket rotates into a boss fight in Stygian? Until I get a Blasphemous Vial from Apprentice I won't feel accomplished. On the other hand maybe I should just take down the pounder.

If I get more bosses available though the rotation will be bigger each time
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>>170654770
None of it matters though. Even if heroes go fuck up its pancreas after they burn it's heart, it will just keep regenerating.

The only way it could potentially be destroyed for good is by disintegrating the whole planet along with everything that lives on it (after all humans and other fleshy beings are spawns/part of it. That's more or less the point of the revelations you get from doing the DDs and from the ending itself).
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Fuck you guys, this comp worked great. It even killed the Collector before he was able to act.
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>>170555736
I'll do that tomorrow
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>>170659509
nigger, you have upgraded team with ancestral trinkets, and you fight apprentice collector
no cool points for that unless you go 4 aunties
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>that moment when the one thing keeping you from playing Stygian is the alternate Family Crest between missions
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>>170650116
Did those bottom skins ever get released? I'm guessing no.
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They breed quickly down there, in the dark.
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does anyone do low but non-zero torch runs? or is it best to go either full light to use solar crown/sun ring or full dark?
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>>170667762
I just don't bother with keeping the torch at low light. It is bothersome unless you have a Crusader or Vestal to keep the light up slightly through their skills.
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>>170667762
>does anyone do low but non-zero torch runs?
I prefer them. They're comfy.
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>>170622545
Reminded
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Android version when?
I dont even own a tablet, but I sure as shit would buy one the day DD gets available on it.
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Holy shit senpai, I've heard the stories, but my search for keks was not in vain, some of the modding projects are a goldmine.
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>>170673105
i dont get it
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>>170673105
I feel bad for the GR.
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>>170673105
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>>170673105
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>>170557527
Needs to be more eldritch looking. At least merfolk don't completely resemble fish or human. This guy looks like a big blue guy with a shark as a head.
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>>170673545
>Grave robber is so ashamed of being stuck with these freaks she's trying to dodge out of the screen itself.
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>>170673610
>Slab Squatthrust
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>>170660605
It's week 21 on Stygian, I only have the Bottle and Map which I earned, and it was the Helping Hand town event so I took my only level 3 (Hellion) to an apprentice dungeon.

So SHUT THE FUCK UP
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Steam's got an update cued -- anything notable?
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>>170674338
Yhea, Its a really fucking eyesore, it goes behind the axe but in front of the glove, really perplexing stuff.
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Why don't you fuckers try to do something yourselves instead of criticizing others peoples work, how on earth are they supposed to improve if not by trial and error? At least they have the heart and motivation to try to make their experiences more unique.
As you reflect on your own collective shitines, I'll be here laughing as I enjoy the prospect of your eternal mediocrity.
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>>170679080
scorpiovaeden pls go
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>>170665176
But perhaps...
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>>170679080
Can someone diagnose this mans affliction?
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>>170680819
Abusive
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>>170677878
no idea, for some reason my help notifications are on again and I have no idea how to turn them off.

>>170679080
nigga I'm already done with my Doom Leper, I'm just not sharing it because I feel I can make it look better.
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>>170682107
also because I can't draw the Affliction and Virtue Poses for shit.
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>>170682107
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Teetering on the brink
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>>170685848
facing the abyss
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Press this advantage
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>when you hold fast
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Update coming Monday out of the beta branch.

Going to leave this in our public beta branch over the weekend and will push live on Monday.
Added trinket outline fx to quest select.
Moved tutorial option to other instead of gameplay so its saved app wide.
Fixed various typos
Updated Town Fair town event text to accurately state that all treatment facilities are free.
Fixed a duplicate Party Name
Fixed Invisible Obstacle bug
Fix center on map when tabbing when Auto-Center option set to OFF
Hooked up new starting room backgrounds for plot quests.
Added Close Button when choosing mode on new save file.
Fix to deck based stagecoach bug resulting in premature shuffling.
Shrieker Nest loot adjustment
Plot quest reward trinkets, (Trophy/Darkest Dungeon Talisman) are no longer valid for trinket retention because you can never lose them.
Added missing activity log strings
Fixed two small bugs relating to the Crow Town Events
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>>170689754
Those are some good fixes.
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What sort of classes and strategy should I be looking at for my first excursion into the Darkest Dungeon?
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>>170690746
You'll be fighting the Shuffling Horror so expect to get shuffled. Ascended Witches will deal massive stress (25 on hit) so Jester and Crusader are highly recommended since they can not only heal the stress, but also deal with the shuffling from the boss at the end (make sure Crusader has Holy Lance). Kill the Witches as fast as you can, and try to save camping for right before the boss. Play the fights slow, Rapturous Cultists can't deal any damage on their own so if you can stun them early and save 2 for the end you'll have plenty of time to get your stress heals out. Expect every other enemy to cause bleed. The map is not randomly generated and will always be the same. There are also no nighttime ambushes, chests, or obstacles so don't bother bringing things for any of those. Stock up on bandages, food, holy water, and torches, skip on the shovels, keys, and antivenom.And remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
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>>170680175
we can breed them faster?
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>>170688632
spiders eh?
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>>170692658
dogs ambushed us
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Did they never fix the food mechanic? I swear no matter how much I feed them they instantly want to eat again. Especially if I start having to backtrack.
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>>170693309
hunger checks are randomly generated in the same way traps, obstacles, and battles are. they even have their own unused tile. when you pass by that tile your party will need to be fed, it doesn't matter how much you feed them beforehand.
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>>170693532
They should really change that it makes no sense why its random. If you have them full its very unlikely they will want to eat for a while.
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>>170693659
yeah, I've lost some expeditions entirely to hunger. all the battles are going perfect, not even eating after a fight. end up with 4 hunger checks in a row, and now I'm fucked.
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>first round
>miss everything
wat
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Finally got that event, and obtain my lost trinkets
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>>170698385
Sweet I just did the same thing. Of course I had no money or any real characters to fight him but somehow manged to win.
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whats a good combo against swine god<
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>>170689754
Does that mean we can't lose trophies again? I hope so.
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>>170699042
I went with the Arbalest, Occultist, Bounty Hunter, and Leper. Unexpected things happened, but Rallying Flare was good to remove marks, and weakening curse is great to lower the Swine God's damage, none-the-less some of the other champions in the dungeon.
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>>170699717
>tfw my arbalest was faster than wilbur and couldn't clear the marks
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>>170699817
>The one time my Arbalest was slower than the Swine God
>Did a 40 crit
>On two guys
>On the same turn
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>>170699901
RNG Jesus is real anon, never forget this
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took on shambler at start of run and things went well

good job snort man
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>>170701905
shambler is apussy
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>>170702634

>alter hasn't even been touched yet

...
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>>170702634
>Untouched Alter
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>>170702746
>>170703114
old altar didnt turn
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>>170665176
>Sitting at camp
>Surrounded by the filfthy swine, their sickening cries of "sugoi!~~~" and "Kyaaa~~~" echoing through the halls
>Stress is mounting: one of those abominations had leapt at me, trying to pull off my pants
>Only just managed to beat the thing off
>The jester thought that my life being in dangerous had been hilarious, the heathen
>Turn to Dismas, my oldest friend
>Surely he can put my heart at ease
>"...Ya know, despite being pigs, these things are kind of hot."
>Tfw
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>>170665176
>Human Feet
They need cloppers
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Man, I'm really glad they added the ability for "go destroy three curios" quests to give you a damage buff, I'm cutting though these piggies like butter. I used to practically never do those kind of quests, but now I always try to do them before a boss fight.
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Best trinket in the game coming through.
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>>170703761
Considering that Eldritch is the most numerous monster type yeah, it easily is with Man type being the most common since they spawn in all dungeons, and Beast being the least (Unholy can at least technically spawn at all of them with the Ghoul. Fuck that nigga.)
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what's the name of that youtube channel where a nigga was playing dark souls 1 and commentating while gravelording ? was chill af
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>>170687381
Give 'em no quarter.
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welp doing my first DD run

Crusader-Occultist-Hellion-Jester. Went with a shuffle easy team focusing on DPS along with a fuckton of Herbs so I can spam Hellion's special attacks.
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>>170703539
>despite being pigs, these things are kind of hot
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>>170704182
show ss
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>>170704701
doing pretty well desu, Hands from The Abyss is a decent enough Stun, I'm just not comfortable not having anyone with Stun. My Crusader also has a stun on him. sans Occultist everyone has a move to move them forward so I'm not too scared of being shuffled out of position
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>>170704941
That was incredibly easy desu, granted I've been holding off playing this dungeon for a long time, and I've been geared out with Eldritch Killing Trinkets. He was actually easier than the Shambler because I just had my Occultist DMG Debuff the Priest behind him so I just nuked him without a sweat
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fuck I didn't knew the Dungeons did this too. I spent like a minute trying to time this to get itt.
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>>170705598
>You have merely glimpsed the edge of the abyss, but it is enough to trigger the cycle of revelation. Now, like me, you will begin to see things as they truly are.
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>>170703734
>"go destroy three curios" quests to give you a damage buff
>before a boss fight.
The hell are you talking about, tubbs?
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>>170707134
I think he means the quests that grant you a town event on completion. That town event is +15% damage, +33% resolve on the next quest on the same area.
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So I Brought my Jester along to get him to level up. Whole party goes insane and starts fucking with each other to a point they nearly kill him. Didn't fucking help my Occultist was doing 0 heals while stacking that bleed. I had to quit the battle because of that bleed but ran out of badges so it was either risk him dying from the bleed or him get hit again. Somehow he managed to survive.
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>>170703539
>Only just managed to beat the thing off
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DLC WHEN

I can't take it anymore, I'm going to pretend the vampires move in after beating the game
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>tfw leper gets charmed by siren
>Withstand

The absolute poet
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>Just realized in the sanitarium you can lock in a good quirk, and eradicate a bad one, at the same time
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>>170709595
snuff out the torch before opening the final chest in a mission for more loot
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>>170667762
great fun if you've got the dark rings. never full dark though, you'll get tentacled at the worst time
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>>170707242
With those events, do they only count on the next expedition in that region, and if you go to another region instead it will expire?

Because I don't want extra resolve XP on Stygian.
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>>170711063
>do they only count on the next expedition in that region, and if you go to another region instead it will expire?

Correct. I think that if you start a quest, then immediately abandon it, the town event will be gone as well, but I'm not sure of this 100%.
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didnt they say heroes now go to bigger ranges of dungeon lvls?

I still have lvl3 faggots complaning about killing aprentice bosses
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>>170711414
Only on Radiant difficulty.
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>>170711583
fuck, time to edit that shit
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>First shambler fight on a new save
>Ancestor's map
>Literally can't go anywhere without giving it to someone to carry

Where has this thing been all my life? I never ever dabbled in ancestor trinkets before, in fact the only one i've ever received was the ancestor's pistol from a bag in one of the Vvulf side rooms.
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>Been looking for shambler altars for a while now
>find one in the cove while going to fight thesiren
>No torches though
>find a torch in the next hallway and immediately activate it, kill him rather painlessly and with 50ish stress each hero
>find ANOTHER shambler altar in the next hallway

Jesus fuck boys. Overconfidence time.
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>>170714031
If you aren't on Stygian it doesn't matter. I miss being able to sacrifice people.
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>>170714182
>get all shamber trinktets before even a blue one
feels good.
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fuck this shambler bullshit
>short quest in weald
>bring my two favorite gals, vestal and graverobber
>been with me since the beginning
>forgot to buy torches
>whatever, what could go wrong?
>fucking shambler
>never encountered that fuck before
>didn't bring anything for bleeding because weald
worst part is, shambler was already dead and it was those shits he spawns that finished my party off
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>>170715624
Another soul battered and broken, cast aside like a spent torch.
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Keep getting deaths at DD2. Have run
Vestal/HM/MaA/Cru
Occ/Pd/MaA/Cru
Feels bad.
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>>170716729
What is killing you?

I have done it with Vestal/GR/MaA/X. GR doesn't have the trinket, MaA protects her every other turn. I engage in a lot of stall healing between altars.

It's probably the roughest area in the game.
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>>170717503
I've been having deaths either at the 2nd altar or between the 2nd and 3rd altar. DoT stacks have been death's door killers. On the Templars, it just seems like my damage is too low. For hallway fights, what should be enemy priority?
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>>170718702
Leave the healers (Rapturuos Cultists) for the last. You can out damage their heal and stun to break guard. Then you can stall heal when just 1-2 of them are remaining.

Usually Cultist Priests are a good first target because they deal a ton of damage to marked targets. The damage, bleed and stress can accumulate quickly.

The ascended cultists are usually ok in comparison.

In order to kill the Templars, you mostly have to go in with full items to cure yourself, so kill Priests first, then whatever else is there, use the healers to stall heal and top yourself up so you can face the Templars at full force.

I don't like the Occulist for DD2. Vestal has a reliable heal and the group heal for the stall healing. If you carry a PD, cure those blights/bleed, but you're probably off better stunning and/or shuffling the priests and DPSing them down fast.
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>>170718702
have you considered using a mark team?
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>>170719371
>stall
Won't everyone get stressed and a size 2 will show up or does that not happen in DD2
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>>170716729

A big key to not getting rekt by DD2 is to exploit the enemy spawns - leave two non-damaging opponents alive and then farm turns.

This is where having a stress healer is important and having a burst healer not so much, you just have to survive a fight and then find those more forgiving fights to heal up. The Cultists like to spam guards on the Priests, so stuns come in handy. In other fights you might end up against a Cultist and a D-Growth, which is also exploitable because if they can't guard anyone they'll just spam AoE stress - but your stress healer will negate this whilst you heal up.

As for why you're not doing damage - it's because a frontline crusader is compete and utter trash. I want to say every hero can be made viable, but it's not true - Crusader is just awful without spamming Holy Lance.

Arbalest - Jester - MAA - Leper absolutely crushes DD2.
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>>170720208
I don't know if it happens, I didn't have happen it to me and I had a lot to heal each time.
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They all just die, it's all pointless.
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>>170724929
Survival is a tenuous proposition in this sprawling tomb.
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THIS LINE WILL NOT BREAK
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>>170673105
Reading those threads, the sprite itself is fine it's just that ingame it gets squished. Something to do with the animations and skeleton.
it's honestly not that bad desu
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Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i go to the Darkest Dungeon this little faggot just stands there and gives me this stupid look on his face.
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>>170725391
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>>170729095

Every day. Every day this faggot sits there and lets me farm virtues on my Abominations.
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I can't wait for Crimson Court to nerf the shit out of PD (trinket) and Hellion stun spam. Shit is boring and trivialises every dungeon.
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>>170733665
you just shut your face.

Its like saying i hope they take that wheelchair from that crippled guy, it trivializes getting around, now that he doesnt drag himself around on the floor.
Right after you covered the floor with glass shards and painkillers.
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>>170733665
I agree, those stuns are over the top.

I hope enemy critting is nerfed as well. At champion dungeons, most enemies can one-shot most classes, so you end with too many cases of crit -> bleed/blight -> death blow with no opportunity to do anything. Poor gameplay.

It's really the only complain I have with the game besides some trinket issues and minor class balance (Crusader, HWM)
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>>170734253
>All the enemies target a single character
>Two to three crits in a row
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>>170733912
>Hellion
>PD
>wheelchair

imblying :D. Hellion would be still THE BEST offensive frontline in the game and possibly best frontline anyway since she can reach any position with her damage only second to leaper while being 10 times more flexible, also her heal is nuts. PD maybe will be hit harder but as now she is just a stun bot. She would still have incredibly strong blights and her single target stuns would actually see the light of being used along with her other skills instead of blinding grenade->blinding grenade->blight. Maybe make incision into an actual skill.

>>170734253
I don't experience too much crits, I play on a normal mode tho but getting 1 shoted sure feels shit for no purpose. I think hard part about balancing Crusader and HWM is that if you can easily overbuff them. I think nerfing barbaric stfu and just a small buff to make crusader more viable outside of Ruins will be enough since none of his skills are bad and his camping skills are situationally good. HWM is however has several shitty skills that you have nearly no reason to use. Tracking shot, grapeshot and pistol shot either are very sitiational or just a much weaker version of other heroes skills or they even get outclassed by HWM own skill. Who the fuck would use pistol shot outside of getting rid of pos 4 when you have +15% dmg wicked slice or duelist advance for pos 3 which has -20% dmg compared to -25% of pistol shot but duelist advance also activates riposte. If not utility he needs something to bypass prot since he was designed way before it and as a damage class it hurts him a lot. Same story with Crusader tho, buff him a bit too much and he blows things up.
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>>170734524
>it's 4 groupers
JUST
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>>170735384
>I don't experience too much crits, I play on a normal mode tho but getting 1 shoted sure feels shit for no purpose.

Enemies in champions dungeons have a crit rate of around 15%. Enemies like the Unclean Troll, Bone Captain, etc. can crit you for 60 damage. Normal damage dealers mobs can crit for 30+ damage. Health of the lightest classes is around 40.

So in veteran dungeons, most enemies have a 1 in 6 chances of sending a slightly wounded character into Death Door already. Add a bleed/blight or not being your turn and you're looking at potentially losing a character.

I looked into modding it to reduce the crit damage to 115% instead of 150%, but seems to be hardcoded. If overall damage for enemies was increased to compensate and crit damage was reduced, luck would have a smaller effect and poor gameplay would be punished harder. So enemies instead of hitting for 10 and critting for 15 15% of times, the overall damage would be 10.75, rounded higher to compensate. Crits could still happen (for the stress and extra bleed/blight duration), but at a lower damage rate. Let's say, 115%. The overall damage would be 10.22, so you pump it to 11 and then, with 115% crit damage, overall damage would be 11.25. Higher damage intake, less stupid bursts. Poor gameplay is punished harder, good gameplay doesn't need to suffer from extra RNG.


I agree with your views on the Crusader and HWM, but at least they should get that tiny buff. I don't like that Hew and Zealot Accusation are clones. I wish each had a small extra effect and then change Leper's Intimidate into something else.
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>>170719371
I had an Eldritch Hater Warrior of Light Occultist I bought to DD2
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Petals must fall.
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>marked for death party
>head off to take down the necromancer
>immediately things go wrong
>it's k we can just cheese the last mob standing to heal ourselves
>fourth room
>houndmaster rolls a 1, death's door on the first turn
>gets quarrel'd
>deathblow
>run into collector in the next hallway

"This could be the chance I always deserved!"

Sorry; weaklings don't get to go home.
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What if you could encounter named generic enemies that can drop neat shit like pages and B versions of existing trinkets?
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>>170746131
That'd be pretty nice. Fallen adventurers and enemy heroes are always a nice feature; I wonder what it'd be like to fight that afflicted Vestal.
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>>170746254
You can already get shit like that in PBD

(this screenshot is misleading, this vestal here just happens to be charmed)
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>>170746770
PBD?
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>>170746924
Pitch Black Dungeons I assume
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>>170747517
Torchless runs..?
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>>170747651
a mod, it's on the Nexus. adds a fuck ton of additional content.
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>>170747921
Sounds interesting; I'll have to give it a try one of these days.
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>week 35
>no Maa
Excuse me?
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>>170751278
Turn off deck based stage coach.
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>>170751678
I thought deck based made it so you have a rotation of heroes and you have to go through them all before they come back into the rotation. Or did I understand this wrong?
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>>170751678
>>170751278
>reach the end of the first year
>no antiquarian
>no bounty hunter
>constantly getting vestals, highwaymen, plague doctors, crusaders and graverobbers
>sending dozens of them to their deaths in apprentice and veteran dungeons
>finally get a bounty hunter on week 63
>resolve level 0
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Stuff you'd like to see
>recruitable enemy units
>boss that spawns and hunts your party if you take too long in a dungeon
>being able to make scouting instant
>make-your-own-palettes for heroes
>more varied enemy packs
>enemy heroes
>fallen/turned/corrupted heroes
>various cosmetics to make you feel worse about letting your favorite unit die horribly
>secret rooms guaranteeing a collector fight
>harder enemies in zero-light conditions
>more unique encounters/maps like Vvulf and the Shrieker
>appearance changing based on the level of a hero's gear
>alt+tabbing in battle can cause bad shit to happen
>idling in hallways can cause bad shit to happen
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>>170751905

I think it's meant to give more of what you have less of, but i'm pretty sure it's bugged out and doesn't work.

Basically "turn on for Vestals every week".
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>>170753876
stfu
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>>170754736
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>>170753876
>boss that spawns and hunts your party if you take too long in a dungeon
>enemy heroes
>fallen/turned/corrupted heroes
>more unique encounters/maps like Vvulf and the Shrieker

That's coming already (in a way)
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>>170753876
>make-your-own-palettes for heroes
>more varied enemy packs
>enemy heroes

The palettes and enemy pack variation are retardedly easy to do by yourself if you are above the mental lvl of a troglodyte, one is just opening photoshop and using the replace color tool and the other one is just copy pasting in a txt file.

and what would be the differences between an enemy hero and a normal monster apart from the appearance?
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>>170755473
Recruitable bad guys would come with their own abilities, sillybuns.

The palette thing would basically have color swatches for various parts of the hero's costumes; IE arms and legs, chest, etc.
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>>170755878
how do you expect me to know you are talking about recruitable entities if you don't specify it m8?

I imagined you where talking about something like pic related.
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>>170756892
I was; didn't you read the entire greentext?
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>>170757064
are you dense my dude? you said "recruitable enemy units" and like half the greentext away "enemy heroes" none where it says "recruitable enemy heroes". We are not supposed to infer meaning for two completely disconnected statement you turboautist.
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>>170757449
>ending with a buzzword

double
nigger
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Any tips for fighting the Horrid Shrieker?
About to go after em for the first time
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>>170758132
Focus the nest, or just survive for a few turns. Get all the bandaids.

You immediately start fighting it once you begin the mission, so there's no need for keys or shovels.
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>>170758337
Appreciated anon.
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>>170757630
Oh hey, its another "I cant disprove anything you said so my last line of defense is to call you a nigger" episode.
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>>170758132
Don't buy food or torches or anything like that, it's a waste. You start the fight immediately. I'd personally recommend Occultist for healing since Shrieker does high single target burst that he can mitigate pretty well. Just buyout the bandages in the store and maybe some medicinal herbs to deal with debuffs.
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>>170759092
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>>170757630
>ending with a buzzword
>nigger
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>>170759097
Appreciated aswell.

Wish me luck boys
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Any ideal party set ups for my first long champ Weald? No idea what bullshit I'll wander into but the Ancestor's Musketball is on offer and I need a decent group to counter my inexperience
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How does the secret room work?
Is there one every map?
Can you get into it only by scouting it?
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Packs laden with loot
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>>170761724
GLITTERING GOLD
TRINKETS AND BAW BULS
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>>170761971
More like blue balls
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>>170764207
What's the maximum possible gold you can have on a mission?

Like 12 slots all filled with the highest tier item, what would that add up to?
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>>170764412

The maximum gold you can get from a mission (just backpack) is 160000

This is if you had all 16 slots filled with 20 stacks of miniature Antiques, you would need an Antiquarian, have equipped your party with Fasting Seals and just walked around a completed dungeon looking for respawning battle tiles (4xAntis will make it faster but technically you would only "need" one).

That is, assuming, battle tiles keep spawning and there isn't a cap, and even if they do it would take an absurd amount of time.

Without Antiquarian on your team the highest amount would be 88000, which is what you would get if you were lucky enough to find 16 Jute Tapestries.
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who /nevertorch/ here
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>>170768083
I wonder who could be behind this po-
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>stacking crit on vestral
surprisingly nice desu
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>>170768959
I hope you don't mean for healing, because heals work off their own crit chance unaffected by +crit.
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>>170769420
>want to heal guy who's missing a fifth of his health
>critical 38

>want to heal a guy who's almost at death's doors
>4

thanks, abdul
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>>170770329
>4
You'll take it and be thankfull, it could have been a 0 +bleed
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Dispatch this thug in brutal fashion
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Are there increased rewards in hardest difficulty or did something get changed in the past few months? After the tutorial I've been getting 20,000+ gold every run, seems like a lot for such early game.
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>>170773496
The rewards are increased for harder difficulties, but they recently boosted the player's loot drops so now there's a ridiculous potential for dosh if you know what you're doing.
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>fight necromancer
>my heroes have some sort of relevant quip to say for each move he has
why did they do this? don't get me wrong, I love it, but is he the only boss like that? was he shown at E3 or something so they wanted it to be spiffier?
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>>170775528
>was he shown at E3 or something so they wanted it to be spiffier
well basically

he's sort of the first boss you fight and probably the first one they added
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Is it worth it? Playing on Stygian
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>>170776623
I guess that depends on what trinkets you have already. I guess if you're well equiped its gonna be an easy clear with high stress
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>>170776623
If you like using PDs then absolutely, just don't take the Leper.
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>Really want to do a red quest, but only have 4 people low enough stress to do it
>Aunt, Doc, and two bitch diggers
>Think we're going to be fucked because I have nobody to be front line, but at least everyone has crazy high speed
>Stick my two grave robbers in front
>First round both grave robbers fade away, doc stun grenades and auntie with coin moves back and guards with plague doc
>All enemies stunned and my whole team is impossible to hit for 3 rounds
>Breeze through extra long warrens like a fart through butter
Holy cuntsmacks.

Someone name this dodgeriffic team comp.
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>>170776809
>>170776916
I've got some good stuff, and I can get rank 4 weapons and armor if I have to
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>>170777261
Why do you have so many heirlooms?
Is your town fully upgraded?
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>>170778295
I've been focusing on runs that reward deeds, other than that just been lucky with loot I suppose. I have mostly focused on the blacksmith and guild and only done a few upgrades to other buildings but I take back every heirloom I find.
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>>170778502
Oh yeah and stagecoach
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>>170608643
Really turns your tides...
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I'm still sad that we never got to fight this fucker.
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>>170780948
I was afraid that that would be the end boss, now I'm upset we never got to fight it at all.
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>>170780948
Yet
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>>170780948
We fought parts of it,
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>>170780948
You skipped the fighting and went straight to the heart.
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>>170780948
Actually we did. That's the Shuffling Horror.
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>>170780948
Why hasnt anyone made a3dmodel of soemthing like that then extrapolate it with math magic and shit into a 4 or maybe 5 dimensional thing?
It shold be possible no? we have shit like 4d tetris, rubicks cube...
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I've got On Guard on Reynauld, and was wondering what I should lock in for a crusader.

He also has corvid's grace and eye, but I don't think those are as important.
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>>170783898
meant to say i haven't locked in on guard yet
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On the old road, we found redemption.
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>>170777008
cunts
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>>170786321
and then we got to hard mode
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is corvid eye worth locking?
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Are champion dungeons supposed to be that hard? I took an arbalest-occ-lep-lep into a short weald, met 3 giants, got consistant heals of 4 and barely made it out with 3 on DD and high stress. Is the mark team the only way?
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>>170790005
Might have gotten RNG on the giants since they can shuffle you. Maybe you were playing like crap? Champ dungeons are pretty hard, but they're not so hard that they limit you to only some team comps.
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>>170790005
No, not an arb, but a blight trinket pd.
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>>170790075
Yeah, I got shuffled a few times and at a point missed a dog like 5 times in a row. Granted, those were lepers, but those were the same lepers who oneshotted a crone a second ago.
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>>170790210
It was probably RNG in part, but your composition didn't leave a lot of breathing room for things going sour in that way. Might be better next time to bring someone instead of a second Leper, or if you do, to fill the party with more mobile units to compensate.
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>Siren captures my non-transformed abomination who I brought for soaking up damage, healing tress and hp on himself, and stunning
>spends all of his turns using Absolution
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>>170793349
He's done that for me as well. I don't know if it's an issue with the Hero AI, but I'm certainly not complaining.
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my leper has 3 diseases

i can only remove them one by one?
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>>170796704

Upgrading sanitarium increases chance of removing all diseases. Also Grave Robber and Plague Doctor's campfire abilities has a good chance for cleansing all disease.
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>>170796704
Plague. Always the plague.
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>>170737568
Quoting myself, I found a way to reduce crit damage, basically getting rid of the most frustrating RNG aspect of the game.
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what would you say it the best setup against champion tier brigand 16 pounder?
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>>170797981
>Arbalest-Plague Doctor-Houndmaster-Bounty Hunter

Plenty of stuns for the mooks, Mark Synergy to take care of Cannon

>inb4 where's the healer
Bitch you don't need no healer here, you get like a shitton of stuns and can easily chain stun with the right set of trinkets. You can easily get your Bounty Hunter hitting at Leper levels easily cleaving through enemies with additional damage thanks to Marking (Though a Leper would be just as effective but he has no stuns and stun synergy, he'll definitely be more effective against the cannon but not when your PD's Stun Shuffle works against you and moves the cannon to the back). With two Prot-Debuff marks, Fungi Men/Artillery Prot don't mean shit. If you do somehow manage to get on low health before the cannon fight, you got two excellent Camp Healers at your disposal with the Arbalest and the Plague Doctor
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>>170797981
Arbalest, BH, HM, Hellion.
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>>170799268
>>170799290
yeah thats nice but you also have to get there which requires a healer honestly especially when you are a shitter such as myself
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>>170799469
Give an Arbalest a healing trinket and she's surprisingly capable. You've also got a Hellion and HM self heal which will be improved by the healing buff the Arbalest gives.
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>>170799527
so risky
i really dont want to lose my shit
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>>170799593
It's really not all that risky unless you're on Stygian. Healers suck in the Champ Weald thanks to Viragos now anyways, it's all about that dank DPS and stuns.
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>>170799701
yeaaaaaaaaaa im on stygian and i hate weald because of those spooky wood-witch things that spawn shit and all

i lost a champ on that once

if only i could guarantee a safe route to the boss then i'd do it with the setup you recommended but iono, im just too pussy this way

maybe ill bring an occultist with damage trinkets for back row tentacles and shit
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>>170799795
Why even bother with the 16 Pounder on Stygian? Do you need the Matchstick that badly? I was told to not bother with Champion bosses on Stygian if possible, and the 16 Pounder in particular is the worst one imo. It's so long and leaves lots of room to miss the Matchman.
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>>170799469
>He still relies on healers in battles
Camp, bring food, bring herbs to find more food, you got a team that has two members can theoretically stun thrice in a row given the right trinkets (Three if you want to forgo Damage for BH but you don't want that). You can easily kill one guy per round at the least with the amount of mark synergy you have. But if you insist on bringing a healer

>Arbalest-Abomination-Occultist-Hellion
Less effective version of above, whenever you feel the need to heal, transform Abo and move forward so your Occultist can heal people (He'll be more valuable as a person who can stun). Less mark synergy here, your BH won't be as strong since the other mark that the other two give only lowers dodge (Though that could give you an advantage against the Crone and Virago). Plus in case you feel ballsy you can transform your Abomination in the Cannon effectively giving you a really strong DPS (Which you'll need since your Arbalest will be too busy to mark)
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>>170799863
because muh achievement
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>>170799864
fuck I forgot I replaced BH with Hellion but yeah, since you have a Hellion you'll mostly be focusing on DoTs to take care of enemies with high Prot so you won't really need the -Prot Mark. Heavily recommend getting Bleed Out and a bunch of Herbs. Though since you did mention you're in Stygian I recommend you get some Man Slaying Quirks on your Arbalest to make sure she always hits the Matchman (Recommend that too with your Hellion)
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>>170799864
Abomination is a crutch and his transformation won't last the whole cannon fight, he will stress to 100.
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how about arbalest, PD, HM, leper?

maybe i get some lucky scouting and i can sneak to the boss without more than 1-2 fights
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>>170799923
There's no achievement for beating the bosses on Stygian. The only Stygian unique achievement is beating the game in a file on said difficulty.
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>>170800062
You could end up in a situation where the Leper is last to move and the Matchman is still alive and in the back
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>>170800178
alright iono if it was you or somebody else but i will try the arbalest, pd, hm, hellion setup which was suggesting first

hope i wont get completely fucked over
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well

good luck me i guess
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>>170800984
n-niceu

thank you anons
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>>170801401
Nice work!
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>>170801401

Now you know how to beat nearly every fight in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8
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I figure if I have to take one level 2 I might as well take the Abomination. What do you think guys?
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>>170802867
Disregard that, they've all got upgraded gear.
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>>170803174
You took too long, let's hope this goes well.
>first fight Ghoul and Crone
>Ghoul tosses 2 skulls at the only person who cannot be healed
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>>170803582
Everything went better than expected.
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Guys what is a good starting team for a total newbie player?
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>>170780948
but you went inside of it and fought it from inside
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>>170796704
you can't cure his leprosy anon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsERa2Rnk5c
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>>170805248
depends entirely on the location and what you're given
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>>170805248

There really isn't one, but you can usually roll with:

Houndmaster - Abomination - Abomination - Abomination.

Give Houndmaster Cry Havoc and his self heal, and just meme people with Abominations - they get all their skills by default, can heal health and stress, have great support skills and give you a "oh shit" button for bad situations.

Provided you don't transform all of them all the time (only the one at the front row) you don't need to worry about stress. An entirely self-sufficient party that can deal with most enemies.

My favourite "all situations" team is
Plague Doctor - Vestal - Houndmaster - Hellion
but it's geared for surviving on the hardest dungeons and requires a good knowledge of the game to use it properly.
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So that vampire DLC...its going to cost dosh or is it free?
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>>170809472
Some well deserved dosh
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>>170809580
So lets see....1 new miniboss,a new henchman and what else? Vampirism as a disease? We dont get a new dungeon or anything?
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>>170809714
I thought the the idea was a new zone...
Let's just say I never cared to inform myself to much on that subject.
The less I know about it the more I'll enjoy it
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>>170799970
You only need to transform him halfway through when you somehow need to heal using the Occultist. He's more valuable as a stun too. Literally anyone who can't effectively deal someone to half their health is more effective as a person who can stun. And in the Cannon Battle where it's more useful to just disrupt enemy positions and stall them so you can easily chip damage at them while preventing them from attacking is the way to go.
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final boss spoilers:
what happens if you lose a hero during the fight? will it use come unto your maker and leave you with 1 guy left, or will it not use it? can you even lose an hero and/or wipe on the fight?
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>>170812267
You can definitely wipe if you're careless, though it doesn't really happen. And I'm sure that you always have 2 heroes in the last phase. He only does Come Unto your Maker if there's more than two people.
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im watching a korean dude playing darkest dungeon usually

is there any other good streamer out there?

it usually takes most western streamers 15 minutes to move or get into another dungeon because 'thanks for sub and donations and shit'
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>>170815862
>wasting time on that
I do watch LIRIK when he does trivia streams though.
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>>170817195
>enjoying something is a waste of time
alright
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>Finally decide it's time to stop pussyfooting around and send my first darkest dungeon 1 expedition on this save on their merry way
>plague doctor for DoT, bleed heals/ minor heals, and stunning if needed
>MAA at the front for stuns and an attack that can hit 3 ranks
>abomination right behind him for blight and stuns with the chain/ additional damage, saving the transform for later cause stress
>Second to last is Occ for primary heals/ eldritch damage
>Heart is beating and i'm tense the whole time, carefully planning my attacks and stuns to make my way safely to the end
>Had a couple close calls near the end, because all the stressers, when they could act, focused on my MAA who was the only one entering the dungeon with 40ish stress compared to the others having 0
>Constantly having heart attacks, refusing heals, but im managing to force the dumb asshole to eat his fucking beans
>Occc heals him for 24 after the third heart attack, prepare to enter the shambler
>Everything is going just fucking grand, seems like it's going to be a close call but all these shuffles are fucking me up because the occ and PD cant really heal or cure blight in the front despite my efforts at re positioning
>They all die one by one, bring the shambler down to like 34hp with my abom left standing
>get him down to 9 hp
>occultist who was hanging on through 8 death's door hits finally dies, he would've delivered the finishing blow
>abom becomes afflicted and transforms back to human form, promptly dies because i cant do literally ANYTHING
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Oh God Vvulf is here, any advice party wise to make this easier?
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>>170821356
MAA is a must
Doggo is a nice addition
One good healer
And add another one that you like!
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>>170821494

MAA to guard the bomb right? Would Leper be a good choice or does Vvulf chill at the back?
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>>170821356
>>170821494
>>170821795
>Tfw did first time vvulf without MaA or BH

Never wanna do that shit again.
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>>170821273
Pour one out for the fallen
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Explain the reference.
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>>170823801
Uh, Poe's poem about the guy in the spanish prison?

Im guessing the occultist is the prisoner, the grave robber is a stand in for the pit, the bounty hunter represents the pendulum, and the crusader is the spanish inquisition?
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what setup would you use against champion siren?
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What are the odds there'll be more than one new class in the expansion?
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>>170825838
zero

its a last ditch effort to milk dosh out of people for close to no content

it will be a shit dlc then the game will be abandoned
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>>170825429

Just did her with Occ - PD - HM - Leper, went pretty well. I mostly picked these for their high base debuff resist. Don't pick anything that relies on bleed, make sure you take plenty of holy water to buff your debuff resist. I got lucky with a map that was easy to figure out where she was so no wasted time.
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So is there any gameplay reason why the Abomination can't go with religious heroes or is it purely a flavor thing?

And if it's a flavor thing why the fuck would the Leper refuse to travel with the Abomination?
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>>170825958
flavor thing I suppose. The leper is just a leper, whereas it's implied the abomination's condition is due to a demon and/or his own doing.
I don't like him being half bald, looks like an emo haircut
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>>170825927
i guess ill try it out tomorrow

the boss after that, the crew, will be harder on champion i feel like
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>>170826810
The only difficult thing about the crew is the add healing to full health if you can't kill him between the time he's summoned and the time he casts his spell. The rest is just a race.
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>>170827318
i should probably do it with a full dps setup i mean no vestal and no occultist because the biggest problem i faced on legendary was that i had to spend 1 or something two rounds just to free the guy who was shackled so yeah i couldnt really dps the boss
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>>170821494

Completed with MAA/Occ/Hm/BH. Went really well, even went to maximum overconfidence and backtracked for the 3 trinket rooms. HM maxed out at 96 stress but ultimately very worth. Thanks for the advice!
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>>170821273
>Resurrection event

Oh shit, my occultist who failed me is back. Time to send his ass back into the dungeon.
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Where the FUCK is crimson KEK info. I need something, just a bit, at least some fucking promo image, DIIIIIIIIIIIIICKS.
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So canonly is there only one Hag, Necromancer, Siren, Flesh, ect of each boss?

Or are there multiple individuals with it ranging from weakest/lowest rank to highest?
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>>170720395
just had a very smooth DD2 run with this team
feels good
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>>170833574
There are lots of necromancers reviving each other and the defeated skeletons
Prophet comes back no matter how many times you dispose of him because of some curse
There's only one Hag, but I'm pretty sure her experiments with the weald life made her gain that plant regeneration factor
Brigand Pounder is rebuilt
Swine King's demon just finds more flesh to inhabit, though there are more than one Wilbur
Formless Flesh just regenerates
Siren's dead body is given back to the sea and she returns on the next tide
Drowned Crew comes back because Anchor curse
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>>170835206
So when their final forms die, are they all dead forever?

Are all the curses broken?
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>>170835206
The pounders can be entirely different cannons, since all the caliber are different tho
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>>170836353
it's almost always a case of "The End, Or Is It?"
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>>170604138
That's what I've managed to do for something like 4 turns UNTIL HE FUCKING DODGED AN ATTACK WITH ONLY 3 HP LEFT
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>>170837632
When you kill the pirates doesnt he just say that finally, these men will have their long overdue sailor's deaths or something along those lines?
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