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old thread: >>170622957
HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz, meme goblins, muh lady, AHHHH rome, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.
I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.
Gobbos are shit
Brets honor a whore
Lizardmen best faction
Post your campaigns!
>>170687668
Lizards are pretty good but they're the runner up for best faction
>traditional jewish economic practices
WHEN
>>170687668
You have insulted ze lady
>>170687890
I cum in the ladies lake
>high king lethuc of the langobards
>kicking ass and taking names across germania
>kill a few too many people
>generate the tyrant trait
>kill a few more people
>generate a byword for cruelty trait
Well, shit. That's -6 public order in every province I own thanks to one character and i'm fighting rebellions literally every turn as a result. I enjoy the fact that you can lose campaigns after just a few bad choices.
>>170687695
Haven't decided if I'm going to conquer and occupy Rome myself or force the Pope into being my vassal
>>170687763
>spiky elves
>Good
El oh el
>>170688039
Vassal.
Make him watch.
>>170687920
So that's how she's still around, the sperm of old virgins.
>>170687504
Continuous rising of temperatures both inside and outside the Empire IS FALSE.
Can we start putting roll charts in the OP?
>>170687920
>>170688198
how else do you think magic is sustained?
Shalom!
>>170688046
One True Phoenix King
>>170688408
What one do you want?
>>170688439
Sacrifice of mortals, in the Lady's case it's male children with a potential for magic.
Rock the boat!
G O B L I N S
Do all fings living and dead have a right to Waaagh? (in da Waaagh or at da pointy end of it)
Why would anyone play a dwarf campaign?
They're by far the most boring faction to fight a battle as
>>170688974
>Gobbo Archers
>>170689101
>instead of going out and actually righting wrongs dwarfs just sit in their little crevices writing wrongs in a big book
>>170688889
yah yew daft git, if'n living things didn't get ter krump and smash, well den dere aint no zoggin point is dere?
Just imagine if dem stuntie gits couldn't fite, where would we be then?
>currently have 20million in the treasury
wtf do i do w/ all this money
>>170689310
Panzer steamtank divisions. Bring civilized society to those Brets.
>>170689336
>implying I'm playing wh
>>170689403
Then make 20 million dildos and go fuck yourself for not saying what faction/game.
>>170688974
I like ranged spam, Irondrakes, their chants and being a greedy little mountain jew.
>>170689256
Wot a zoggin nightmare
>>170689582
If you like ranged spam there are superior choices, but as usual it'll come down to
>but muh dorfs
>>170688974
Dwarfs allow me to go full It Ain't Me tier with gyros, flamethrowers, and riflemen though so I like them.
Do I suffer as Legendary The Empire or Legendary Best Empire?
>>170689810
PRINCE
AND
EMPEROR
>>170688461
YOU DELET THIS RIGHT NOW.
>>170689641
You picked 1 out of 4 reasons why I play Dwarfs
>>but muh dorfs
I don't recall saying they were my favorite race or playstyle, no need to be a faggot just because you don't like playing as them.
>>170689971
only for a fee goy
Goblin Dabbing
>>170689810
What the fuck is the difference between the two?
KHAZUKAN
KHAZAKIT
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>170690213
>Mr. Dabby
>>170689847
SUMMON
GOD IN HEAVEN SPARE MY ARSE!
>decide to try and confederate manny as vlad
>income is absolutely shithouse without a faction capital or gold mine
mistakes were made
>HOBGOBBOS
>GONNA BACKSTAB EM
Whoever the fuck said to make Franz go down the melee skill tree can suck my dick.
10 levels and he still can't do shit, and routinely goes to 1/4 health every time I sick him on the enemy lord. Do regular mooks fuck him up that bad that if he's tied up in a lord battle that they all just hit him or what's going on?
I'd rather have Honest Steel, thank you.
>>170690287
>Not knowing the best empire for what it is
>>170690837
I dunno what you're doing wrong as my melee Fran rapes, triply so when he gets Deathclaw
>>170690837
you take honest steel first then grab his combat skills desu, and he needs to be hitting the enemy lord not wasting time on mooks if he's in a mass which can be an issue
>>170689310
Give it to WRE so you'll have a mighty rival empire to conquer
Creative Assembly has bought Crytek Black Sea based in Sofia Bulgaria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Assembly_Sofia
>>170691012
>giving away money
goyim, no!
>>170691034
What games have they made?
>>170691073
Tell the treasurers its an "investment"
Either that or fund some proxy wars
Or a campaign ofreligious subversion
>>170690871
I know the best empire, which is why I'm wondering why you're mentioning it twice
>>170691248
Games:
Knights of Honor (2004)
Worldshift (2008)
Arena of Fate
Pretty literal-who tier devs. Seems like a nice place to work though:
Our benefits:
Flexible working time
Free soft drinks, coffee, tea, snacks, etc.
Friendly and creative atmosphere in a cozy and modern office in the Business Park of Sofia
Team building events (Christmas party, milestone parties, etc.)
Medical examinations once a year
The challenge to work on AAA titles and gain priceless experience…And many more
>>170690798
A race so cunnin' and evil that after joining a plot against the Chaos Dwarf masters in a greenskin uprising they turned again on their orc brethren to stab them in the back to become the Chaos Dwarfs favourite slaves. They are given prime positions like slave masters and servants.
Chaos Dwarfs truly are the faction of peace
>>170691385
>The challenge to work on AAA titles
>>170690893
>>170690943
Guess I'll pay more attention.
Also I don't have deathclaw or any mounts.
I was gonna start going down that path at level 13.
Also a different question.
Do Aura size upgrades affect artifacts? I have some crazy debuffing shit on Franz.
i want to play a very hard campaign so enemy but not deal with bullshit bufffed units so i change battle difficulty to normal
why the fuck will the battle difficulty not reflect in the stats of my enemies. they still have +10 leadership and other buffs
>let me tell you about chaos fucking shits
>>170692025
CAW CAW
>>170691862
aw, you can lower the difficulty a little more if you want mate :(
Don't push yourself too hard
>>170688974
THEY HAVE WRONGED US
>>170692152
i played very hard battles too until i finally found out why a single unit of ork boyz could sometimes even wipe out longbeards
i thought the difficulty was improvements to the AI not arbitrary stat increases
This isn't real. None of this is real.
>>170692347
You're going to solve this by playing trivially easy battles?
>>170692506
So what did Karl see to make him understand the true nature of man?
When's the best time to start creatings new hordes as Chaos?
I got all the horde growth stuff and lightning strike for Archaon and recruited Kholek fairly early and now if I'm not sacking things nonstop I'm gonna drown under my 5k negative income. I feel like I should have waited longer before adding a new horde
I am really enjoying Steel Faith so far, but I've been finding myself starved for skill points.
I know SFO still gives you more than vanilla does, but I guess Prometheus spoiled me by making it rain skill points before I switched.
>make a fation full of cool units
>only let the player use half of them in the campaign
>>170692789
Yeah, Steel Faith used to give out more skill points, but the modder lowered the amount because he thought he was giving too much. Now it's 1 point for Lords except at every 5 levels, and 1 point for Heroes except at every 10 levels.
>>170692674
An Arch Lector Secessionist with 2 swordsmen and a free company. I wonder what he told Franz.
>>170692506
What is a man?
>>170692140
I like this one, anon
>>170692715
you want them as soon as you're comfortable sustaining/defending it, it's helps to have enough dosh saved to split your initial hordes good troops and re-recruit so the baby horde can go off and sack things as well
DUDE MERC ONAGERS LMAO XD
>some random cunts with some catapults are the most effective unit in ai armies
>In this episode of Papa Vlad and his trusted knights...
>>170694013
how
>>170694013
Is that 2000+ kills?
What a neat battlemap - its amazing how much better attila looks w/o the doom and gloom lighting you typically get in europe
>>170694013
>2000+ kills
holy fuck
>>170694292
>>170694298
Yes, yes that is my friends
>>170694282
Abusing map corner and using bats as fodders
>>170694459
guessing you also exclusively cast invocation of nehek on the blood knights?
Sometimes TW can be very aesthetic.
>>170694013
Save the replay and upload it
>>170694497
Yep. Spammed it like there is no tomorrow. Also, I got lucky because after the bats all died, the enemies formed a nice U shape around my knights
>>170687668
You're right on most points except Gobbos rule
WHat are Taifali cavalry good for?
>>170694298
>>170694669
wasting money, unfortunately. They don't have a role that isn't performed better by other, better/cheaper units
does vlad's army still get vanguard deployment if you start with isabella?
Daily reminder that Durthu was right all along
>>170695989
Why?
>so close to winning with dwarves
>getting careless
>book of grudges keeps getting new entries because beastmen are being niggers
I WANNA GO TO BED YOU FUCKS
>>170695836
He does and >>170695910 is pretty much wrong
>>170694298
>>170694754
Are there flowers in the Warhammer assets? Very jolly and gay.
>>170692956
>>170692975
>what's the point of it all...kill one army, one nation... another appears... kill one man, more come... kill them all, what's the point, they'll never stop, they just keep coming and never stop...
>>170696297
huh before the patch he didn't, but now he does
>>170687504
Always Kill Marienburg shitters.
Never let them live, destroy them and take their lands and put them to better use.
>Beat down Sarthorael as Archaon
>After the battle I steal one of his hellcannons
Yoooo
I thought that was just a myth
>>170696598
Seriously, fuck them right in their motherfucking eye sockets.
>tfw now getting 300k/turn income
I have 27.5million in the treasury, imagine how much faster my wealth would be growing if I were the ERE
>waaaah, Marienburg is hard
Then why can I do this on turn 3 Legendary?
>>170696825
Because you have autism
>>170696642
I seem to remember being able to do this in other total war titles as well.
>>170696598
>>170696748
>Furthermore, I consi-
MARIENBURG DELENDA EST
>>170696825
Why does auto-resolve favor archers so heavily?
Is it calculating their potential kills by range and ammunition?
Because they only get 3 volleys off before the enemy meets your battle line and then you need lots of micro to position them to start shooting again.
>>170696825
Because you know how to exploit the AI? Also, marienburg isn't hard so much as they are annoying, both in the background and in game. Which makes putting them down so very satisfying.
>>170697070
I didn't auto-resolve
>>170686421
>>170687496
I'd pay for it. I'd pay 8 bucks, no more. But I'd pay for it
And now we know how CA will get their money after 2020- selling us DLC which should have been in the game at launch.
>>170697070
>you need lots of micro
i always find telling them to shoot diagonally across your line works fine, and that anon didn't autoresolve, he abused the ai
>>170697064
Damn right, wipe the fuckers out and take all the gold and stuff that they're hoarding in their fancy mansions and shit while the rest of Sigmar's domain is fighting a desperate war against countless horrors and monstrosities.
>>170689310
>>170691073
>>170696775
>caring about the money at all
Only those who don't have money worry about it.
>>170697139
>>170697209
not even that guy, but
>breaking the walls with the trebuchet you're given, storming the castle, and killing all its defenders with your army is now "exploiting/abusing the AI"
bretonnia turn 2 marienburg is not that hardremember to remove your trip, friend
>>170697543
>Only those who don't have money worry about it.
what a stupid fucking phrase
>>170697543
>>breaking the walls with the trebuchet you're given, storming the castle, and killing all its defenders with your army is now "exploiting/abusing the AI"
There's a bit more to it then that though. He would use his general to draw fire from the enemy artillery for example, which is something that just wouldn't work against a human player.
>>170697543
Using chokepoints and missile spam is unchivalrous sir
Finally finished my first campaign in this game as dwarves. (Fucking chaos niggers my god)
Pretty fun experience. Think I'll move on to the emperor next.
FOR
THE
EMPEROR
>>170697543
>using the fact the ai refuses to leave the walls under any circumstances to use up all your archers ammo isn't exploiting the ai
I'll let you all know how a Free Company Militia instead of infantry works out.
>>170697845
Know your enemy etc etc
>>170697706
You can take Mareinburg without going full cheese (luring the tower & mortor to waste it's shots & ammo on your kiting lord, using archers to shot through holes in the wall when AI won't sally out) but going full cheese enables you to keep your army and take out the Skullsmashers turn 4.
Do a more conventional seige battle and you need to replenish your army before taking out the mountain orcs, ~ turn 8.
>>170697926
they are broken in autoresolve, so you should be fine
>>170698146
>>Do a more conventional seige battle and you need to replenish your army before taking out the mountain orcs, ~ turn 8.
On what difficulty setting? Honest question.
>>170698321
IDK I cheesed it
>>170698226
I noticed.
Good thing the sound design in this game is top fucking notch and I just want to hear thousands of guns go off.
>>170698321
I did mine on hard battle difficulty without any of what you nerds call cheese, I just suffered the atrocious casualties and won the battle. Every pegasus knight died taking marienburg, the knights were decimated, and peasants died in the thousands removing greenskin later on. Didn't matter, marienburg is worth any casualties and the money bankrolled the early game.
I wonder if you guys ever played shogun 2, or if this is a symptom of /tg/ suddenly becoming /twg/
>>170698719
>>I did mine on hard battle difficulty without any of what you nerds call cheese,
I don't object to cheese tactics, I object to people bragging about it, which in fairness you aren't.
>>I wonder if you guys ever played shogun 2, or if this is a symptom of /tg/ suddenly becoming /twg/
I played shogun 2 a bit, towers aren't nearly as murderous in that game as they are in Warhams or Attila. Also /tg/ used to have total war threads occasionally before this board existed, and there's nothing sudden about the appearance of /tg/ folks here.
>why yes, I do choose to do things the 'right way' and not 'cheese' the AI
>>170698719
/twg/ has always had /tg/, but WH is unironically the most cancerous portion of /tg/ and it attracted retarded autists to this general that were more interested in Warhammer than in Total War.
>>170699071
Cheesing the AI is a choice, but 'playing smart' and 'cheese' are completely different things. Now that we're infected with /tg/, this should be entirely clear - playing smart and being a fucking munchkin are not the same thing.
>>170699063
>>170699230
I know there's some crossover, but I see a lot of posts along the lines of "warhammer is my first tw and it's awesome" and "how do I do this basic total war thing" and wonder how many in this thread have fought for the glory of Rome or suffered a brutal realm divide.
>>170699230
It is impossible to differentiate 'playing smart' and 'being a munchkin' in AI games other than 'well I don't like that method'
>>170699314
Those people are the cancer of /tg/. Also, most of them are probably just newfags. 4chan isn't a secret club anymore.
Do i see a tripfag?
Do i see replies to a tripfag?
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MINDS?
>>170699418
There is a difference, you just can't see it anymore. If it feels bad or unimmersive, you're cheesing. If it gives you the thrill of heroic victory, you're being ded kunnin'
>>170699440I mean I reminded him but he's just not removing it, not gonna make a big deal about it myself desu
>end turn
>ai completely wreaks all my plans throughout the realm
>lose six stacks in all and make myself weak enough to lose the campaign
>reload the autosave and end turn again because in shock and need to witness my failure again
>ai doesnt do any of its power plays and i do my just as planned throughout the map since all my plans were a turn away from coming to fruition
>suddenly decide to keep playing this campaign even though i just loaded up a fresh start
>mfw you start to bully me
>>170694581
You're not fooling me. I'd recognize that grass anywhere
>>170698226
Well, it fucked up the Marienburg stack in open battle.
It'll probably slaughter beastmen, but I don't trust it.
Maybe once you get artillery. Or maybe I need more crossbowmen.
These graphics are pretty cool
Bloody AI ambushed me!
>>170699418
Munchkins use the RAW excessively. Corner camping is an example of cheesing because the corner is just a RAW to make the game actually possible to run on non-PSC rigs.
>only way to advance campaign is to declare war on ere/wre
>have become attached to the ludicrous amount of income my faction has been making
>declaring war on the ere/wre will ruin that by ending my absurd trade agreements with them
truly I have become a merchant
>reinforcements start pouring in behind your deployment
Heh, ok, we'll just split this legion and fight two-
>find out they can reinforce from multiple points and both are right on the ass of your deployment
>they're coming in out of the fog timed to hit our line at the same time on 3 sides
...just another day in the legion, circle up boys, prepare to defend yourselves.
>>170698719
Shogun 2 sieges are top tier, m8.
Don't worry. We're with ya.
You want to sit in your castle? Fine. I've got half archers anyway. Have fun wasting your ammo on ashigaru.
Lads?
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADS?
>>170699881
>actually getting ambushed
Yeah but how
>>170699881
OUT ZOGGIN SKILLED
>>170699881
post screens and results
what do you guys use as a late game vampire count stack?
Just to clarify
In WH, to conferderate with someone, defense alliance is okay but military ally is no-no, correct?
>>170699881
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>>170699881
You better not save scum
>love my battle lines with monstrous units used to support the main brawl
>playan Vlad and his trio of Vampire funsquad
>the Mannlet camps in Castle Drakenhof from the get-go with one and a half stacks at all times sitting pretty
>fucker's got graveguards and vargheits coming straight out of his gold-infused ass while I'm barely scraping by with some grave guards, vargheists and mostly skellingtons filling out my one army
>take all the lands around Drakenhof, start the blood drinker questline
>start fucking around with Stirland in an attempt to boost my income
>still barely getting 2k income a turn, most of which goes towards building infrastructure
>nowhere in the near future do I see myself able to siege Drakenhof
>end up being surrounded by humans that hate me, Stirland invites Averland, Averland invites the Empire
So playing Steel Faith on Legendary, I feel like my monstrous units are more lynchpins than support units. How am I supposed to fight as Vamps? Out of all the factions, this is the one where I don't 'get it' when it comes to their style of fighting.
>>170700117
I'm on Legendary
Lol, Vlad vanguard deployment is stupidly OP. I just camped near the reinforcement armies and slaughtered them all. I shouldn't have won this
>>170699754
Use agents to cause revolts
>>170700051
yes
>>170700259
but the more territory they lose, the less goods I can export to them, and the less money I make
>>170699881
REIKSGUARD KNIGHTS
Not to sound like Seth Rogen, but does anyone else notice a significant boost in skill when high?
Normally, in TW:W, I can maybe barely take on hard, after a sufficient number of restarts. Yesterday I got baked and did a Legendary campaign in one go. As Chaos, but still.
Similar things happened with 4x games - I won games of Endless Space 2 on maximum difficulty without any troubles when I was high, but when I tried to play it normally, I couldn't do it.
>>170699881
>no artillery
RIP
>>170694298
How do you get that not doom and gloom look? Where are you fighting?
>>170700128
steel faith probably changed things but in vanilla they're about tar pitting your enemy with mainline units then smacking them in the sides with bat pups and crypt horrors. your monsters can absolutely wreck house hitting bunched up enemies in a flank or from behind
>take settlement
>two religious buildings
>from different religions
>>170700468
it's been scientifically proven that weed is the gamer's limitless pill, this shouldn't be a surprise to you senpai
use it sparingly
>this is considered a t3 unit
And so it begins...
>>170700621
>500 upkeep
dassa spicy meatball
One of my vampire wizards has a fetish for humans and causes a -5 leadership penalty when fighting them.
Is there a way to get rid of such negative traits or am I supposed to deal with it?
>>170700518
>>170700740
Deal with it. Only Brettonians can purge negative quirks.
>>170699652
That ain't a TW game.
You can't tell me that the game will look that good if I just turn off banners.
>>170700848
Lmao get a load of this budget build pleb
this fucking garrison holy shit
seventeen fucking units
I always thought the Templehof banner was a sort of Cthulu-esque octopus monster but it's just a skull with its mouth open and a tongue out
>>170700917
Fuck off. I'm employed. I got a rig.
Is that Attila? I ain't played that one yet.
But for real. What? Banners off? Minimal UI (obviously off for screenshots) and a desert map?
>>170699881
>>170699906
>>170699985
>>170700013
>>170700114
>>170700117
>>170700423
>>170700476
Might have won if it wasn't on Legendary, knights and a few of the other fellas ended up running when the enemy had just a few units left
>>170701024
>he doesn't know
don't even tell this guy
lurk
Jesus Christ, what am I doing wrong as Bretonnia? VH/VH and I can barely beat Marienburg. I saw you guys giving advice like "Take Marienburg by turn 2" but it seems impossible. Either I get COMPLETELY fucked over and lose the battle because all of my units rout or I win, barely have any troops left, and then the orcs fuck me over. And somehow, despite taking as much care as I can, Louen and the pegasus knights get wiped out, because apparently me telling them "go over here and wait" means "Fly in this direction for a second, but immediately turn right back into the handgunner/crossbow fire" to the pegasus knights.
What are you doing to take Marienburg so easily, /twg/?
The Roman/Jewish War begins, with multiple (former) border armies taking the offensive, besieging multiple cities belonging to the enemy, inluding the ERE's mediterranean holdings, which are being attacked by land armies that have disembarked. The ERE has fleets in the area, but our naval forces are moving to intercept them and ensure they don't reach their destination. The ERE's only land province in Thessalonica is being besieged, while a second army hunts down a legion nearby.
In North Africa the going looks to be much tougher, due to the WRE's heavy use of garrison buildings - it appears that this is how they survived so late into the game, and my forces have their work cut out for them, even when attacking unwalled settlements.
This war will be over by Hanukkah
>it's fucking louen sieging marienburg at turn 3 before you deal with secessionists episode
>>170699881
Karl BTFO
>>170700621
>16 ammo for a 90 damage javelin
>>170701140
you've almost got to cheese the siege if you want to take marienburg and deal with the greenskins early, bear in mind marienburg are fairly likely to take a turn two peace if you recruit your 4 units
>>170701140
Mate you got two options plain and simple
A) wait til you confederate
B) use sneaky tactics
Simple as that
>>170701208
>this happened my last empire game
>louen lost but cucked emil hard enough i could waltz in and occupy the next turn
>>170701358
Good for you.
And I have to start a war with that french bastard now.
>>170701590
Excuse me, he's not French, he's a Breton
I want to play fey enchantress bret campaign but its so fucking dull with the orc penalty and super afking elves
any ideas cause i really like the battles just not the campaign
>>170701614
Bretons are french
t. Breton
>>170701619
You could always, you know
Play as Leon and recruit her as a leader?
>>170701614
You sure know your baguettes.
>>170701619
>Raise army.
>Attack Estalia, take their clay.
>Once the second lord reaches level 2, take the knightly vow.
>Replace everything in his army with knights of the realm.
>Launch a crusade into the Badlands or Norsca.
I did this in my Alberic campaign, and it was wicked chivalrous.
>>170701734
Leon gives me autism honest to god i cannot stand him
>>170701823
So don't use him?
just helping my bro Franz squash some filthy traitors. another day in glorious chivalry
>>170701619
just play the quest battles or make a few custom battles until the itch is scratched
Situation looks pretty bad for the Enchantress right now.
I wonder if she needs some... "helps"
>>170701792
I assume you had to afk until the public order debuff dissapeared?
Dwarf 'honour'
>>170702040
Karak Hirn are fucking unhinged.
>holding the line with exactly 0 morale
>perimeter already breached, stupidly powerful langobard generals slaughtered palatina romans and went berserk
>cavalry charging early to keep morale up
>no broken arrow to call
Stand fast brave Romans, don't break on me now, just need a little longer
>>170702040
Western dawi for you senpai.
If you're ever at peace (you never will be) genocide should be your filler episode
>>170702030
Second army farms rebels, first army goes to take Estalia.
>>170701619
>Grind Orcs for 20 turns
>Conquer Estalia
>Go on crusades
What's wrong with that?
>>170702087
Surely this is a cruel joke of the gods
>>170700769
>>170700996
post the others too, those banners look fine in higher resolution
This is a fucking minor settlement
How exactly do you unlock RoR units? Is it if you buy the DLC only?
>>170702419
o-ok
>>170702637
yes
>>170701208
>it's a got into a military alliance with Loeun so he could kill the Beastmen, orcs, and two thirds of Marienburg's armed forces while you waltzed in and took the province in two turns episode
>>170702646
thanksyou lovable person
>>170702651
Which RoR is most worth it? I've beaten the game with VC, Greenskins, and Dorfs. Dwarves seemed easiest, but Empire seems appealing, is the RoR for Empire good?
>>170702794
imo they're all pretty good but I like the greenskin and dwarf ror's more
>>170702760
Greenskin hordes when?
I wanna give the Old World my top knot!
>>170702794
the empire's helstorm ror is pretty good
>>170702794
Empire and Vampires probably have the best RoRs
Dorf/Greenskin pack is probably better overall though, because of the new greenskin units and new starting locations
Would you support an even more indepth loot system in warhammer?
Can someone explain the gobbo archers meme to me?
That's what i call turtlying, the don't even want to capture nearby hold
Is there any reason to use night gobbos over nasty skulkers?
Maybe one or two fanatics, right? Is their ability worth it?
>>170702897
That would be perfect, especially if you could pack up, roam as a horde, and settle. Maybe a mechanic where the longer you stay settled in place the less money you get, but at the same time the more access to Fanciers Orcs you have too....
>>170702956
Sure, but I'd rather have progression added to individual regiments
I want traits for Slayers that take down a giant, and for peasants who didn't rout immediately upon contact with chosen
Why am I suppose to think so highly of KFC? He won by one fucking vote.
>start battle
>fog
>wait
>rain
>wait
>rain
>wait
>fog
fuck britain
>>170694581
>TW general
>posts Mount&Blade
keep hope alive
Jesus christ WHAT are they feeding these fuckers
>playing anything other than Rome 1, Medieval 2, or Shogun 2
explain yourselves.
>>170702646
Never seen purple and brown beastmen baners, are they from the mini-campaign?
>>170703359
No Attila?
>>170703359
>explain yourselves.
I like fun
>>170702956
I'd love it if the next game focused more on the Your Dudes* aspect, allowing some degree of customization of every unit you have, and a running stats log showing their lifetime kill count, loss count, worst and best battles....
* https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Your_Dudes
>>170703036
That would be cool too, maybe a short and simple tree for each unit with specialization or generalization, maybe with some accommodation for respeccing if need be?
And speaking of impossible dreams, imagine if there was some kind of units climbing units tech a la Dragon's Dogma, so Slayers could climb up Giants and beat em up.
Oh and speaking of DD, what about a troop role switching system? Say, you can retrain your swordsmen into halbierdiers or up into greatswords, and they have different stats derived from the levels they spent as swordsmen or whatever. Like Pistoliers would develop speed as they level, so if you retrain them into empire knights they become sonic speed knights, but more fragile than knights who did all their leveling as knights.
Oh and spiders climbing over walls
The Roman Beach landing was a disaster
Have you truly earned the Lady's blessing yet /twg/.
>>170703554
Who cares about that watery harlot
>>170703302
It took everything we had, but we got them. These men are heroes.
Langobards are not to be fucked with. This legion's expedition is over.
Does anyone still play Naploeon?
What are the best lores of magic in the current version of the game?
>>170703807
Its the lore ofREIKSGUARD KNIGHTS
>>170703681
>they were also diseased and now we probably are too
We're not gonna make it home.
>>170703537
>archers
at least nothing valuable was lost
>>170703807
vampire/life, light is good for the net
>>170701110
Don't be a fag.
Anyone know what this ass is talking about?
>>170703537
why are marines so fucking awful, even in ship-boarding? honestly I don't understand naval in this game, only spamming 19 stacks of siege ships is viable
Why is Talabheim in TWWH nothing like the real one?
>>170704464
you can see the crater if you zoom in on it
>>170704202
I was going to tell you but
>being rude
>>170704525
scratch that, i must have been thinking of something else
>>170704019
And between Beast, Death and Shadow - which one would you say is best? I'm asking because I'm playing as Malagor and I'm thinking of pairing him with a bray-shaman because Wild doesn't seem to have any significant buff/debuff or high-impact spells.
>>170704729
devolve has been brought back to where it is now useful, definitely don't skimp on malagor.
>>170699881
memes
>>170703970
After recruiting from the vanquished langobards taken prisoner and receiving reinforcement, resupply and a fresh unit of cataphracts from our western ally, the legion of Arbogast isn't in as terrible a condition as I'd thought it would be.
He's also feeling pretty good, his surviving men worship him and the new recruits are in awe of his victories across Gaul.
Uburzis is within striking distance and Arbogast would like nothing more than to start dismantling the langobard empire while their forces are scattered and leaderless, but going into Germania without full reinforcement is death.
>>170704845
Yeah, it's basically the only spell I've got with him. I haven't bothered getting the Cygor spell because I've still got the Giant that you start off with so I don't need the Terror and leaving one spot open in the army isn't worth it.
>>170704845
CAMEL'D
>>170704964
The barbarian invasion is largely defeated in the north. Allied forces are converging on the Roman traitors' bases in northern Gaul, and whatever forces remain of their barbarian NATO have shrunk back into wild Britannia and Germania.
On the eastern front, Arab forces are defeated by a hastily levied Sassanid army near Ctesiphon, but further east the coalition is making gains in Persis and Spahan. The fully replenished legion of Seneca is ready to begin its next offensive and blaze a trail down the Tigris, razing cities as they march to the sea.
The plague continues to ravage lands and armies throughout the middle east, and spread from the rebel base at Durocortorum.
Jeebus, chaos corruption in the chaos wastes is no joke
>>170705480
what the fuck are you even doing use the sea to get to the battle location
>>170704576
I can't believe you actually make anons use the image search.
You're worse than Napoleon.
>>170705581
well... did you find out?
>>170705625
Kingdom of Niggers.
Malagor
2x Gorebulls
1x Bray-Shaman (Shadows)
3x Bestigors
3x Gor Herd
3x Gor Herd (Shields)
2x Razorgors
2x Centigors (Great Weapons)
1x Giant
2x Minotaurs
How's this for a nearly-end-game build for Beastmen? What would you change?
>rendering assistance to small ally skirmish
>romans chill out while auxiliaries work the fields
>elephants get some play time
>>170705480
ASININE MORTAL
>>170706001
I only regret that I could only save one pack of these before the Sassanids rebelled. Gonna have to try to keep them around for the armored indian variety.
>tfw couldn't save WRE-chan
;-;
>>170706162
She trusted you
>>170706162
>16 regions left
What's the problem? Giving up already?
>>170706231
I tried my best! There were too many Caledonians, Picts and Ebdanians! By the time I took them down a peg they were already all over Spain and France.
>>170706265
She'll never regain her past glory. Especially with the Huns coming.
>want to confederate Averland for Marius
>Imperial Distrust
>>170706356
just wait for shield of civilization :^)
Anything but dwarves!
>>170706321
>your waifu gets into a car accident and breaks both her legs
>third degree burns on her once beautiful face
>she's losing the will to live
>this is the moment you decide to leave her
Shameful
>>170706629
You think I'm leaving her? I'm sending armies into spain at my own cost, without the request of WRE cause she's too damn proud to admit she needs help from a dirty barbar like me. I'm about to turn on the alamans, one of the great powers of the world because he's about to enter WRE's islands. I'm going to take out the Suebians, Langoboards, Burgundians, Danes, Italia, Western Seps; everyone who could hurt her. I'll burn this whole goddamn world to the ground if we could huddle together in the ruins.
Is EB2 fun to play yet?
>>170706162
Its 482 in my campaign, and the WRE are not only still alive, they are the #2 power behind meWhich is why I am currently at war with them
>>170706845
>cause she's too damn proud to admit she needs help from a dirty barbar like me
Yep, that's WRE. She will see you in the end, frank. Deus vult.
>won the badlandsbowl too fast and hard as Dorfs and Archaon spawned on turn 80
Sucks to be Empire I guess. The second wave of Chaos isn't even cleaned up yet.
>>170706997
I'd convert for her.
Brother!
>>170706479
Gimme a good one
After capturing the last Roman territory in Africa, peace is made so that judaism can be spread & the newly captured regions stabilized. Results of this war
>ERE destroyed
>WRE removed from africa
>WRE no longer the 2nd most powerful faction, now 3rd behind Saxons
>Income/Trade income drops massively, down to 200,000/turn
>>170704464
>Herdstone just right outside the city.
Seriously talabheimers?
>>170705924
I never take more than one mage for my armies tbqh. If it's a wizard lord I just take a melee hero (or two in the case of beastmen).
FotE + Europa Perdita or just FotE for Atilla?
/twg/, is there going to be a pack for TW:W which contains all dlc's for the game or do i have to buy them separately?
Anyone else wish they gave malagor a unique lore so there's a reason to use him?
>mfw waiting for the next Total War sale on Steam
It'll be soon...right guys?
>>170707906
I wish he'd have something special going for him
Morghur at least has the emergency Chaos Spawn ability
>>170707753
>FotE
don't
>>170708159
It'd be alright if the brayshaman's didn't have lore of wild, but they do, so it's just pointless to take him. Bothers me a lot because I really like him.
>>170707906
His campaign modifier is absolutely gobshit 10% campaign movement is decent but +1 to Bray-Shaman rank is literally useless. I'm almost done with the campaign and I still havne't recruited a shaman. His quest item as well, even with the better artifacts mod.
Still, I'm having fun playing him, mostly because his model is badass and it's great to start with a giant.
>>170707812
Please respond
Has anyone tried a Morghur campaign? I can't imagine playing beastmen without Minotaurs.
>>170708346
>don't
Why?
>>170708150
Summer.
Ask yourself if you would wait 4 months to save $15 on something. Because I guarantee if it will even be on sale, it's not going to be half off. 33% at most.
That's 3-4 hours of work after taxes at a shitty barely above minimum wage job instead of 5. If your mom asked you to mulch around the house for the DLC, you'd do it.
You're wasting 4 months to save 3 hours of work. You need to think about time, anon.
These whole 4 months you could be playing factions. Sifting out the shit ones you don't like. Getting gud with the ones you do, then you're up to date for the next expansion.
God I hate how I have to champion DLC just because I have a job now. But money is fucking nice and it does nothing by just sitting there.
>>170707906
I think they buffed his melee w/ the most recent patch, but yeah he's still pretty shit. His gimmick should be flying/gliding on his wings to have good movement speed and the ability to charge weaker stuff, but right now the only thing he has going for him over a regular shaman is his unique magic boosting ability
>Kislev Rebels
>>170708641
I'm not even gonna try. Why play beastmen if you can't use the unit that makes beastmen worth it?
>>170708641
>he wants big beast cock minotaurs
>he doesnt want his enemies to get SPAWNED
thats pretty homo anon
>>170708823
Morghur wrecked the absolute shit out of two of my armies last time I saw him in a campaign, can you get him if you start with khazrak or malagor?
>>170708641
Is there a lore reason why he gets that penalty?
>>170708960
Yeah, sure. After you recruit one chaos spawn I think.
>anon says Saxons have a great roster
>the /his/fag within me prefers Franks
FUCK
What do?
>>170708698
I know I'm just so damn cheap and those sales come out of nowhere sometimes. I hadn't played a Total War since Medieval 2 in 2010, I bought Warhammer on the humble bundle last month and have fallen in love with the series again. Right now I'm trying to decide between Rome II and Atilla and I figured with a sale I could swipe them both.
>>170709118
Follow your heart
Shed the Saxon shits
Is there some way to get Realm of the Wood Elves for less than its exorbitant current price, even on keysites? I mean it's one (1) race.don't say wait for a sale
>>170709390
creamapi
Chicken fillet tonight boys!
>>170706479
rollin
>>170708369
Well all the others use standard lores too, but have some extra cool bits too.
>>170708641
I did a good 100 or so turns on it before SFO came out. It's interesting, fun to try once at least. Makes you appreciate Minotaurs more.
Stop playing fantasy
>Blasted Standard
>+6 Missile Parry (shields)
>-7 Melee Defense
>40 m radius
Can anyone please give me ONE example of this a positive and not something that will get your own army raped?
>>170709781
Stop playing Total War
bets are open
who'll win ?
>>170709803
if you are fighting persians it might be useful
>>170709631
Is this one of those things people get banned for
It looks like one of those things people get banned for
Stop playing historical
>>170709768
Isn't gelt the only empire wizard that gets metal? I don't recall being able to recruit heroes with metal.
Aw shit
>>170709891
DEUUS VULTUUU
>>170709891
The only reason your victory chance is that low is because the enemy daimyo brought his entire family with him. You'll win.
>>170709968
>>170709968
i hope that wasnt a legendary campaignBECAUSE SLAUGHERING ALL THOSE MORTALS AT ONCE WILL MAKE FUTURE BATTLES LESS GLORIOUS
>>170709968
Is Steel and Faith good?
>>170708641
I tried one and had fun being forced to do something other than mino spam, but unfortunately he's a bit bugged. Unless they fixed it with the latest patch, a lot of the abilities he has that are supposed to make his chaos spawn better/comparable to minotaurs don't work.
>>170706479
Rollan
>>170710068
>>170710019
lmao nvm
>>170710079
I dunno, not using it.
>>170710068
Eh, I lost my main big dick horde stack a few times during my legendary Chaos campaign, and eventually I got better. The united Norsca pulled most of the weight for me in regards to Empire. Then they angered the Tree Hitler, he took most Empire territories and was on his way to conquering Norsca itself, when I finally finished off the Dorfs. Praise Chaos that they don't need to take down WElves to win.
>>170696825
in my game, on legendary, on turn 3 they had an extra full stack right next to the city
>>170709982
fun fact we're both christian converts
>>170709984
i guess, thank god Yari Ashigaru have worse moral than a trashcan
Is there any way to share replays thats less shady than just sending files to strangers or recieving them.
I always see those epic battles on here and wish i could see them myself.
>>170709318
It's the only thing I can do, isn't it?
But now I realized Franks don't even get doggos. Fucking hell.
>>170709169
East > West.But I'm not starting either Rome until I finish a campaign with someone else.
>>170699071
>he is from /brit/
fuck off right back to /int/ you cunt
What do I do?
I feel like no matter what I choose I'll be fucked
>>170699773
>unironically playing FOTE
>>170710386
Do you need troops? If no, then take the money.
Unless youre a bros b4 hos kinda guy then tell her to eat your ass
>>170709803
Against wood elves?
>>170710539
I don't really know what I need, this is my fist time playing this campaign seriously and I just defeated the VandalsI guess I'll tell her to fuck off, barbarian pussy best pussy
Should I take on the big boys ostrogoths next?
>>170703970
its funny that all autismus mods are easy as fuck, DeI is piss easy, so is FOTE, autists can't into challenge
>>170687842
Hopefully soon.
Realistically never.
How are your Ancient Empires campaigns going? :'D
>>170699230
It's supreme autists like you that make /twg/ cancerous, not the warhammer fags.
>>170710885
>>170710724
this, FOTE makes the romans OP as fuck not to mention the massive garrisons
>>170710681
Take a little time to make sure your buildings and coffers are in order then take Italy by storm and tag team Ostrogoth bitches with your bro John the Armenian.
>>170687504
>climate change edition
>>170688974
dwarfs are the best faction out there.
i only wish i could get jade wizard option(aren't there any valaya priests with medicinal runes?), griffons for my lords and bigger bombs on my gyrobombers. also option to build magma stack out of kitten bone would be useful too. otherwise dwarfs are the ultimate fun train. gotta love'em irondrakes and ironbreakers.
>>170711204
>playing as the manlets of great butthurt
>>170688974
They are easy to just play entire campaign autoresolving everything to death. Even Legendary doesn't give orcs enough buffs to affect the autobalance.
am I a bitch for playing romans in attila w/ mods that get rid of their legacy techs
>>170711282
>playing as dead meat
Your actions have been recorded. Expect hundreds of Irondrakes burning down your shitty forest shortly.
>>170710440
>>170710724
>>170710954
What?
I'm not even going to touch this one, lol.
Play vanilla if you like it senpai.
>>170711282
i kill all wood elves on every campaign, and burn down their forest. which is a pity as i would rather roleplay anti-chaos neutrality with them if they weren't such unbearable faggots.
>>170711426
>shortly
self-irony heh?
>>170711448
problem with FOTE is that it is unfinished, and considering the immense changes to unit skills the units left unchanged completely reck the balancing in the game, things like the damage from burned towns is also unchanged, and given much lower values of unit skills they go into zero, which makes it easy to abuse
AND its also incredibly easy, WRE units are ridiculously overpowered and can easily roll over multiple stacks with just one of your own, and its not just balance, the AI cannot deal with longer battle times which makes every battle much easier
>>170711468
Wood Elves ARE Chaos though. Haven't you seen them attack everyone as soon as Chaos arrives?
What's your top three TWs /twg/?
>>170711468
TRUE RULER OF EIGHT-PEAKS
>>170711721
Attila
Med2
Empire
SUMMON
>>170711787
mod?
do you only have reikland at 100 turns?
>>170711772
It's over lads. A happy ending :)
>>170711772
>>170711721
Starship Troopers
Warhammer 2
Harry Potterverse
>>170711867
>mod?
Quite a few, Steel Faith being the main one
>do you only have reikland at 100 turns?
No I own Averland as well, however I keep getting spammed with doomstacks so its virtually impossible to expand.
>>170711894
Not canon :^)
Since we've got a new historical TW on the horizon, which setting would you -least- like to see?
Stop razing my settlements.
>>170712193
Stop razing mine you fuck
Fa/tg/uys, what are some good lore names for empire generals that aren't elector counts? I already have Kurt Helborg and Ludwig Schwartzhelm, I have two more that need proper names.
>>170712170
ching chong nip nong, fuck gooks shogun was bad enough
>>170711721
Shogun 2
Warhammer
Attila
>>170712170
Bronze age or RotTK unless they go full on dynasty warriors level fantasy.
>>170712170
Australia pre 1700
>>170712170
Hmmm. Some african/indian/middle east bullshit.
>>170711721
Attila
Shogun 2 FOTS
Shogun 2
>>170712170
Something ancient, like the last time I got laid
>>170711074bro you didn't warned me about the moors
>complete empire campaign that took dozens of hours and shaved years off my life from stress
>stats screen
should i convert to Christianity in my goal to become Shogun ?
>>170711628
didn't they attack everyone at the turn 1?
>>170711772
don't make me pull the lever.
>>170689195
Revenge is best served cold. And since Dwarfs live for hundreds of years that revenge is usually way colder than the corpse of whoever wronged them by the time it rolls around.
>>170711468
I haven't picked up the DLC yet. What makes them unbearable?
>>170713737
Hyper aggression and ranged units being absolutely OP on auto resolve means there's a 90% chance of Wood Elves fucking everything around them.
>>170713847
That sounds alpha as fuck desu.
>>170711721
Medieval 2
Warhammer
Attila
>mfw finding the honeypot for dosh that is Athel Loren
>>170713737
>>170713847
Just mod them to be defensive...
>>170702483
>fighting romans directly.
I caused rebellions and never had to declare war on a roman once.
>>170701619
Mate, I started as Albelic which is even duller because the starting region is deep inside Bretonnia and the Red Duke turtled in his capital with 2 army stacks.
>let orc incursion happen and farm the fuck out of them, by the time you're done your LL is probably level 15
>set up military access asap to attack marienburg and the orcs
>there's also beastmen to entertain you
>>170705480
Move at half the pace and set up camp every time your stop
>>170713408
I am just beatifying badlands anon, look at all the trees
>>170713737
they have -30 aversion to everyone. so they WILL attack your allied dwarves(which will result in a grudge and endless war, and a declaration of war on your ally when you are fighting 12 stacks of chaos with everything you have). they will also attack and take brettonia and estalia so you have to wipe out the fuckers to get human settlements.
the forest also has annoying fucking attrition and you can't hold land in it which makes it hard to wipe them out fast, you have to dedicate at least two full armies to we genocide.
they are genearally a huge annoyance and i wish they would just stay put in their forest.
>>170714210
>2717
>>170714565
MOD
>>170714495
>negative income
>as the motherfucking elves
How?
>>170714495
that's fucking it, you elgi pansy. URIST! RELEASE THE CRUNDLE BOMB!
Did the Bretonnia patch fix the Marienburg walls? Do the towers actually fire if someone occupies them?
Bitter victory.
>>170714714
Oak of Ages doesn't give much sack cost I think.
>>170714714
I don't think that's the first time he looted it.
>>170714565
>Mfw the only time i managed to make Wood Elves my allies was with Vampire Counts
Their hate for Empire was far stronger than their hate for the undead
>people are STILL using No Floppy Hats mods
>>170714801
the only thing manlets are good for is hiding behind their walls and starving
the AI in warham really should just sally out at that point though, its too stupid
>>170714793
eh, I recruited an extra stack because I was worried about the chaos invasion, but Louen and KFC wiped them out
>>170715030
lol, i allied them as manfredd too.
"you look awfully pale. perhaps a walk in the sun would do you good."
>>170715193
There should be an all floppy hats mod that grants them to all units and heroes.
>>170715350
>orcs with floppy hats
mods pls
>>170715350
that would undermine the value of the floppy hat. empire economy would collapse! by sigmar, you must be a vampire infiltrator. call the priest guys!
>>170715238
>>170715030
>be playing chaos campaign
>tree reich asks me to join a military alliance and fight the empire in return
Wiped them out before the empire, almost loosing all my three stacks in the process. The amount of disgust I got for elves back then was fucking immeasurable.
>>170711468
>Play Chaos
>the exact moment I attack Bretonnia Wood Elves ally with me
>they genocide the whole south of Bretonnia while I do the same to the North
BASED
>>170715746
mods already exist for the panthers, huntsmen, grand masters, and savage warbosses. we do need spear chukka and snotling wagons though. greenskins need all the love they can get.
killing the stunted folk is actually an act of kindness, you are doing them an immeasurable service, by saving them from their wretched and butthurt filled existence
Going to play my first Empire campaign
Am I missing anything by not having the grim and the grave expansion?
>>170716132
not really.
>>170716132
Multiple units and one third of the Empire's legendary lord roster, so yes.
A lord choice other than generic general of the empire. All tabletop lords mod remedies thisand was removed from SFO, kind of boring to recruit a new army and have the same exact general every time.
Also the pay2win regiments
And some alternative unit choices like flagellants and blazing sun, but they're redundant with units that already take those roles in the empire roster.
>>170715992
this is pretty much the only good looking spell in the game
>>170716132
I bought the DLC and then refunded it, doesn't seem worth it desu
>>170716132
meant for (you)
>>170716392
>>170716392
I wish Bret had a system where you could temporarily disband armies, then rerecruit them for no or seriously reduced cost.
>>170716132
VULKMARTHE GRIM
why do people complain about foot squires? is it because they are ridiculously cost effective?
>>170716609
I AM VOLKMAR!
>>170706479
Wanna try something new
>>170716632
They're too good for Bretonnia.
>>170716676
Sigmar's chosen, yesI think that's how it goes anyway
>>170715746
I hope CA add some degree of colour scheme customisation in the next Warhammer entry, I want to go full Averland
haha, no
WEW FUCKIN LAD
THAT'S A GRUDGIN
>>170715746
This is pretty good, covers what remaining gaps the Empire has while adding some campaign flavor. And the Greenskin stuff is desperately needed. Early game AP ranged against Dwarfs would be fucking magnificent.
>>170704729
Death is alright for sniping enemy commanders
Shadow has the best anti-unit evocation of the three, penumbral pendulum is great
Shadow also gets a -30 armour -8 leadership enchantment that can be overcast for aura and can win battles; especially against stunties
>>170715746
>celestial hurricanum
i've never heard of that before, what would it do exactly? because the empire doesn't need anymore shitty magic warmachines that dont work
>>170717017
>following the whims of a watery harlot
>>170716803
They might be hoping mods cover that for them. I don't think it would be easy for them to add proper customization if their failure to make minor factions anything, but a clone of the main faction is an indicator of anything.
Any mod recommendation for Atilla?
>>170717224
>they couldn't even let us put a simple paintjob on our units' clothing textures
>despite having done exactly this for shogun 2
Mark my words and screencap this post, they will charge us $11.99 for the privilege.
>>170717283
AI repopulate tazed settlements
>>170716265
>>170716284
>>170716392
>>170716398
>>170716609
and that got me no closer to where I was before posting it kek
I guess I could just "obtain" a copy of the DLC if it's that big of a deal
How is trade route access calculated? It doesn't seem to follow any logic.
Do you conquer shit as Bret? I am just kind of chilling, tending the farms, going on crusades when enemies rise up but not taking their lands. All I care about is chivalry, honour, and bret lands.
Any Beastmen players out there?
I enjoy playing but I can never decide what troops to build from buildings, because each new one costs more than the last, I want to aim for the best troops with the minimum buildings needed.
Piggies or Centaur for cavalry? I think the piggies are harder hitting but the centaurs with shields and speed are better at catching Empire and Gobbo ranged cav.
What do you use for main line troops? Even with shields the Gor seem a bit squishy, so I always want to either build into Bestigor or Shield Minotaurs.
>>170717951
That's the only right way to play.
>>170710138
>Karl Franz
>Into tactics
>>170717976
Normal Gors as main line, I just merge and build more after battles. As for the rest, Minotaurs as cavalry, minotaurs as everything, really. Minotaurs.
>Playing Vlad Campaign
>Managed to make the Dwarves friendly
>Most of the Electoral Count are my allies
>Ravaging Bretonnia with my shit stacks from Altdorf
This campaign is weird
>>170718359
MOO IS STRONG. Really Minotaurs are my favourite units in the game
>>170718359
I love me some minotaurs, but how do you deal with ranged stuff and ranged cav?
>>170710138
>Aspiring Champions when you have all that elite infantry
What's the point?
>>170718608
Seriously though, we need fucking doombulls so we can have the full mino experience.
and thats a wrap for a now, the badlands are nearly completely mine, the Karaz-something-manlet capital is under siege, and the world is well on the way to becoming a better place as I genocide both the regular gobshits AND the bearded gobbos
>>170718765
You make me sick, Beastman king.
>>170711204
PUMP THOSE DWARFEN LEGS
Fucking love their unit responses
>Still no Ancient Memepires
>Still no Memedieval Kingdoms
>>170718608
>>170718736
>Taurox LL
>Campaign effects entirely focussing on Minotaurs
Ultimate Bull experience.
>>170719092
What the fuck are you even saying?
>>170712170
Africa or India
I swear to fucking god if they make a game about kangz or poos I'm going to bomb their offices
>local brettonian peasant spotted sprouting heresy
>>170718859
are dwarf feeling stunted too or is it just their height?
>>170706479
Roll
>>170719313
>Don't talk to Jobe anymore, he consorts with dark powers!
>>170712170
-Least- Would be Africa, I have no interest at all. Maybe, if it was ancient Egypt, like Bronze or early Iron age shit.
I -most- want China, anything before the Yuan dynasty and I'd be happy.
>>170711721
According to Steam played times:
Warhammer
Rome 2
Empire
And I think Empire would be higher if it ran better. For some reason I never "clicked" with Attila, I don't know why.
>>170717976
I'll usually stick with Ungor Shielded Spearmen as my chaff, I've found they hold out just fine in most cases, especially with the leadership auras of Lord + Gorebull + Bray Shaman on a Chariot
That way, I can use the rest of my funds for Minotaurs, and Gorebulls
Later on I might bring in some Gors with Shields but I've never really felt they were a necessary buy, Bestigors even less so
Dogs and Centigors are good for chasing down routers. Centigors are quite fragile though. Poison Dogs and Great Weapon Centigors are a good pair for hunting ranged cav I've found
I never found a suitable niche for Razorgors, they're not fast enough to be chasers really, and their anti-infantry focus puts them in the same niche as Minotaurs
Harpies can be used to fly over lines to tie up archers or siege engines I guess, but never really used them much, and they're kind of shit as chasers
Cygors are good lads, love to have at least one around. Cool thing about Cygors in sieges is they're mobile enough so you can bring em up right away and walk them inside the walls once your Minotaurs have bashed the gate down, then the Cygor can snipe the enemies holding the square. Also it's fucking funny seeing a Cygor snipe Pegashit Knights out of the sky
>>170720131
>For some reason I never "clicked" with Attila, I don't know why.
because it's shit and it gets old very fast
>>170690665
THE
LIFE IS A PHASE
>>170719640
*chops down Oak of Ages*
Do i charge cycle with bats and vamp bats with vampire counts? Or do I flank attack and let them melee until the enemy unit dies?
>>170720440
GOBBOS
>>170720807
Bats are just fodder. Use them to tie up ranged and arty.
Vamp bats should only really be cycled against tougher enemies.
>>170711468
Lunarians should stop infiltrating total war games. Get out of Rome 1 and Attila reeee
>>170720535
>loses his capital
>it ain't me doesn't even start to play
>>170720960
>>170720248
Good stuff, thanks for the input, should help a lot.
Is Estalia considered Bret lands? Or just the part west/north of the mountains
>>170721302
They aren't.
But considering how horrible the first 35 or so turns are for Carcassone, I don't think anyone will blame you for settling there.
Whats a good wood elfy name for Karaz-a-Karak?
>>170721302
Carcassone to Couronne is Brettonia.
Estalia is Estalia.
>>170721302
Is Spain France?
>>170721806
Yes???? Like, why even ask such an obvious question LOL!
>>170721547
>>170721547
Dick Suck Peak
What do?
>>170721895
Correct. Spain is ruled by a Bourbon king and thus is actually french clay.
>>170722019
Offense is the best defense.
>>170722074
That's a new one I haven't seen yet
Saved
>>170721547
Faggot under the Mountain
>>170722019
Leave it, leadership way better for shit tier troops
>>170721547
Name it Everleaf Peak desu
I have 20$
Which Warhammer DLC's should I buy?
>>170717976
Until you get the upkeep reduction building, you're always gonna be walking a tight-rope with regards to funds.
My main line consists of 3x Bestigor, 3x Gor and 3x Gor (shields). With this mix, you can beat or match pretty much every enemy army by adjust which units are in the centre depending upon what you're facing. Bestigors provide good AP damage, Gors fantastic damage against unarmored and the shielded ones for tanking volleys.
I use 2 Gorebulls in my main herd. With all their buffs to gors, you're gonna be seeing insane Melee Attack stats on your main-line. The Gorebulls are mainly used for ganking enemy lords.
As for cavalry, I use 2 Great Weapon Centigors and 2 pigs. If you place the pigs just in front of the Centigors, they're gonna tank a frontal charge which pretty much swings every 1v1 cav fight in your favour.
Add 3 Minotaur Greatweapons for Anti-Large and a Giant and Cygor for terror and you're pretty much unstoppable.
Do I get quests or something as bret? Jesus
>>170722186
>>170722113
Was asking more from an rp sense, so I took it, because nobles are dicks.
>>170722528
Blood, King and Warlord.
I'm starting a new Best Elf Campaign, is it better to just conquer the other elf shits right off? I've always expanded outward then just confederated. How do you guys play the early game out with them?
Why are there flies and poopy things here in bret lands? Yes yes, peasants etc, but this seems isolated.
>>170723197
>Best Elf
but anon the High Elves arent here yet
>>170723246
because chaos is everywhere
Whats the biggest cause of desync in multiplayer?
Mods? CA shit coding?
Me and a friend do a lot of MP campaigns and we used to only have 1-2 desyncs a night but since the Brit patch after about turn 30 we can barely get through a turn without desyncs and then the game crashing.
>>170723246
It might be a official custom battle map location
No one wants to fight with me... Should I just crusade someone? I am on very hard, why does no one dislike me?
>>170723528
Why haven't you fucked Estalia up yet?
>>170723587
I am not conquering anywhere besides maybe bret lands if they war with me, or through confederation. House rules.
>>170723528
>Crooked Moon are alive
>Elves are alive
TIME FOR A CRUSADE, LAD
>>170722471
sounds pretty good, cheers, way better than just adding grove and forest and glade to things like I've been doing
where is that autist who posted elven names of places like Altdorf claiming that it is rightful elven clay
>>170723528
the only conquest I allow myself is vampires and even that ONLY if empire or one of its elector counts asks me to join a war against them
I think conquering land post crusade against evil is justified, because thats what brets did and how the border princes formed
Does anyone have the Attila roll chart?
What does the caster trait actually do? It just says that you're a highly-effective spellcaster but it doesn't say if you get more starting magic or reserve or anything.
>>170724565
It gives you a title. It's just flavour. Your character has become a highly-effective spellcaster because you invested in magic stuff.
>>170721547
WE'RE GONNA NEED TWO BOOKS FOR THIS ONE
>Besieging a city as the WRE
>2 ERE armies come in to assist
>Take the city in a night battle so that they don't get any xp
Fuck off Greeks, Majorian is the one true emperor
Is the green knight on a timer?
>>170725779
He only has 15 turns per summon, yes.
After failing his first action of the campaign and wounding himself, Sly returns to Wurrzag's service. He will be needed, for the Green Prophet intends to swiftly absorb the southern Badlands and take his rightful place as the leader of the Greenskins. Grimgor Ironhide is only as useful (and as trustful) as Wurrzag can throw him.
>>170726039
I want to start my first Greenskin campaign, tips? Should I start with The Bloody Handz or the standard Greenskins? Which LL is better?
...and just as quickly, Sly proves his complete inability to do anything right by nearly killing himself AGAIN. Wurrzag shakes his head in bewilderment, and begins to question why he chose this inept, overgrown Snotling to accompany him to Ekrund.
>>170726159
Start as Grimgor. He is the best choice due to having vastly superior units at the start. Bloody Handz is much harder choice due to having Greenskins confederating everyone as neighbours.
>>170726039
>>170726250
>same turn, 6
Jesus christ, I think I understand how are Dawi winning the Badlandsbowl every single time.
>>170724356
Only time you should ever expand into the vamp cunts land is once you have unifed ALL empire lands. Makes it to easy if you knock them out early.
>>170726250
No time to worry about that, though! The unbelievers of the Teef Snatchaz clan have amassed two armies against Wurzzag's warband, and caught him within distance of the local garrison. Thousands of orks and goblins are arrayed against the Great Green Prophet, and the odds of victory seem slim indeed.
Gork and Mork (or would it be Mork and Gork?) cast their eyes on the battle below....
>>170726159
For the Bloody Handz at least, I consider it easy. Wurrzag's skill tree buffs for melee units and savage orks, his magic and upkeep/recruitment discount, and the recent buff to -%physicaldmg savage orks got in general means you will steamroll the regular orks to the north and east. It's so bad even the auto-resolve realizes it and gave me the odds for the fight above at 45%ish. However, the savage orks in the south (Top Knotz) are working with the same core troops you are, and I'm currently dancing around just 1 1/3 stacks away from local garrisons.
It's been months since I played Grimgor. I don't remember how the Greenskins campaign played other than just winning the Badlands Bowl by any means necessary.
gay
>>170727125
That changes nothing.
>>170724557
>>170726551
>conquering empire
do you take me for a churl?
>>170721547
"Fat goblins used to live here"
>>170727883
I was talking about all of Empire land as the empire numpty. Unifying all the elector cunts
>>170727321
ERE or sandniggers please
>>170727321
No dirty barbars pls
>>170710724
>first legendary go in Attila is WRE in FoTE
>wow ive gotten good at this game :^)
>decide to play vanilla on L
>watch my legio line melt against barbarian spears and my shit pushed in hard all over the map
Welp
>>170726551
VC lands ARE empire lands.
>>170728753
You got that backwards.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=877556036&searchtext=
ARE YOU READY
FOR KANGZ
HOLY SHIT JUST MARCH AT THE SAME SPEED AS EVERYONE ELSE AND STAY IN FUCKING FORMATION.
IT'S CALLED MARCHING NOT COMPEDITIVE POWER WALKING YOU LITERAL PIECES OF SHIT
>>170726945
Sorry about the wait. Had to open the replay because I didn't save any good shots from the first go-round.
Wurrzag sends his goblin wolf riders out to scout, and finds before him a paltry force on a defensible position. However, he also receives a report of the other two armies reinforcing from a great distance away.. A smile plays across Wurrzag's face as a malicious plan forms.
"If deyz think deyz cunnin' an' brutal, I'll show 'em what REAL cunnin' an' REAL BRUTAL ARE!"
The Prophet keeps half of his orks in reserve, and sends the rest, plus his cavalry and Giant, to quickly smash the goblins holding the hill.
>>170729138Lock formation.
>>170729138
t. newfag
I want to play Bretonnia over Carcassonne but the fey enchantress seems like pretty much the defacto leader really. Like if she attacks me, who am I to fight her?
Do you know who I am?
>>170729224
I shouldn't have to. Using Alt drag should be more than enough.
Is it not clear from that alone that I want everyone to keep formation?
>>170729339
She's not going to attack you.
From what I understand, while Feet Enchantress has the power to overrule the King's decisions, she won't bother unless the King's doing something insane that'd invariably harm Bretonnia.
>>170729525
But I mean in the game, won't they eventually fight you?
>>170729394
god I wish I could get back into tabletop. Too bad games workshop are such huge fuckin jews it costs a fuckin arm and leg to get back into.
>>170729195
The battle lines crash, and Wurrzag spots a large concentration of goblins held in place by his savage ork boar boyz. A voice rings clear in his head...
"SMASH DOZE GITZ"
He is all to happy to oblige.
>>170729614
Not unless you raid them or something.
100 turns into an Empire camp. Ive decided I like STO.
The battles seemed too long at first but now I think going back to vanilla they would seem too short.
CAI seems a little better - actually had the Varg fuck up my second best army and wipe it out
Income level seems a little high? But we'll see once I have to face the proper chaos armies
>>170729614
No. I think the campaign opening explaining chivalry says so, Bretonnian factions don't fight each other. At least I have never seen the A.I do so since the update.
>>170729649
It's also going to cost you a time machine unless you get into Age of Shitmar like a good goy.
>>170729649
I've seen a few tabletop armies on Tabletop Sim but dunno how accurate that stuff is.
>>170729705
>>170729863
yeah the only tabletop id consider playing now days is 40k and even that is a stretch
>>170729802
>>170729767
So basically unless you confederate a land first or are an unchivalrousness cunt you can't get bret lines. I kinda like it.
>>170729948
What about Warmachine and Hordes? Or Confrontation?
>>170729945
>>170729948
Between 40k now and shitmar id unironically go shitmar.
t. former 40ker
>>170721547
NOW LISTEN HERE YOU KNIFE EARED PIECE OF SHIT. YOU BEST BACK THAT FUCKING GREEN ON YOUR MAP RIGHT OFF BEFORE I GET MY BITCH BOI OVER HERE TO OVERHEAT THAT PRETTY WHITE FACE OF YOURS
>>170730181
What is this t. Meme
>>170718630
you charge them with minotaurs, infantry lines can't stop you
ranged cav is usually shit, and you can ignore it or focus it down with archer fire/centigors
Can a lore fag tell me about the difference in quality of life between a regular peasant and a man at arms? Or is it just about being noticed by senpai? Do the Lord's treat them better/differently?
>>170730115
The goblins are soon driven off the hill, and Wurrzag redeploys to meet the remaining enemy. Half of his orks are still fresh, beating their axes together in anticipation of the fight to come, whereas the enemy is tired and winded, forced to march across the battlefield.
The voice speaks to Wurrzag again...
>>170730254
t. not a true understander of memery
>>170730371
You get a higher wage and some training
Still a peasant
>>170730254
I don't know.
- A Friendly Anon
>>170730254
t is like "signed by" in Dutch or swedish or some shit
>>170730254
An alternative to tripfagging
>>170730392
>>170730225
>you do well to kneel before me, wait, those aren't your knees
Is there any way to check and see when a general is coming back? trying to confederate averland, but Leitdorf got deleted by a vamp cunt. wondering if I can find out when he comes back so I can confederate and have him.
I AM FRANZ
They will obey
>>170730572
>>170730715
>proceeds to get gangfucked by every Elector Count in the Empire
>>170730715
do you know who I am?
>>170730254
Ebin meme originating from Krautchan, now 4chins have taken it and it has become shit.
>>170730706
If Leitdorf died, he probably isn't coming back because he doesn't count as a legendary lord
>>170730715
>summon the elector counts
>they are literally all at war with me
>>170730740
The battle ends soon after the third Foot of Gork. The enemy greenskins can no longer stand to be crushed by their own gods, and shatter like a Wood Elf's spine under a light breeze. As the remnants of enemy flee, Wurrzag orders the cavalry out to mop up, and for the captives to be brought forward.
His orks have earned all-they-can-eat tonight.
>>170731118
>They've all been deleted by chaos
>late march or early april for old friend and dlc07
>sequel announcement within the next few months
>release in february
>>170731159
>mfw outnumbered 10 to 1
>absolute slaughter on either side but win despite being hopelessly outmatched>phyrric victory
And here you squash a bunch of gobbos while outnumbering them with fucking savage orcs, and get a heroic victory by what's the gaming equivalent of stomping on kittens.
What the fuck.
>>170731159
Aftermath screen. Like always, the AI can't into proper armying, and given how superior savage orks are to regular ones it was a no-brainer as to the outcome.
For Christ's sake, the entire time I was taking the hill initially from the minor army, the full-stack and garrison were fucking about at the redline, trying to get their units set up in one long ass battle line. I had enough time to not only set up, but run Wurrzag forward for a Foot and a magic missile, AND make it back before the leading night goblins arrived.
>>170731364
Raise your difficulty
>>170731364
You can't take overwhelming losses, Anon. That's what makes it a Pyrrhic victory, not a Heroic one.
>>170731017
Oh shit, so if hes gone hes gone as a lord? The Faction Leader is still Leldorf.
>>170731786
nah, faction leaders are immortal, he will only die permanently post-confederation
>>170731423
I must be doing something wrong. Most people's result screens show loads of units obviously breaking and running from the field, whereas in my battles units are usually either wiped out or severely damaged. It's rare a defeated army escapes with more than ~30% of it's starting forces.
>>170732305
are you playing on legendary? the AI gets +10 to morale so they often fight to the last man, so yeah my fights end with total slaughter too
>>170732305
Eh, I tend to go the easy route of lord sniping and hammer charges (or with Wurrzag, blobs and Foot of Gork), so as soon as they break I tend to not press the advantage until they come back; by then, the enemy lord is dead and my ranged troops can shatter them. The end goal is to defeat the enemy, and only the Vampire Cunts force you to fight to the bitter end (and even THEN you can still break their morale and crumble them)
>>170731423
Damn, Wurrzag's so much fun to play. Few LL's match him in that regard.
>>170732542
You can still get (most) units to rout pretty readily with morale shocks.
>>170729614
>>170729802
>>170729978
I have seen Artois and Bastonne and Parravon and Bordeleaux at war over 3 campagins(Fay, Louen, and Orion. The wars didn't last long and didn't really do anything other than give me an excuse to 'purge' the unchivalrous brutes.
I imagine the update just gave them all a shitload of positive affinity with eachother to try and prevent wars.
>>170732305
Ironically
Higher leadership units suffer the worst in defeats because they keep fighting longer. While those gobbos or peasants ran away with a lot of dudes still alive.
Difficulties/mods that lower your leadership will usually mean less casualties because army wide rout takes effect earlier.
>>170732305
>>170732542
Also difficulty, yes. Very much so difficulty.
>Bretonnia attacks Marienburg and sacks it
>Run in and steal it unopposed during my turn.
Thanks for the help, "King" Louen
>want to do a Bretonnia campaign
>already finished a Hard /Normal Louen and VH/VH Carcassone
>miss gunpowder, but don't want to touch Empire ever again
fug
>>170706479
roll
>Download steel faith after seeing /twg/ talk about it
>Get concerned when I'm making 2500 gold per turn with 1 1/2 armies in the field
>Get my army shot to death by an army with 6 pistollers that suddenly do 48 damage with armor-piercing
Yeah I'm not even going to look at the rest of these retarded changes, into the trash it goes.
How does the Empire Hellblaster compare to the Dwarf Organ Gun?
>play a campaign on very hard & normal battle difficulty for some time now
>go up against goblin spears
>wonder why they're taking so long to die
>check their leadership stat
>difficulty modifier +10
Its been broken for some quite time, isn't it?
>>170733851
>pistoliers
>armor-piercing
>that much damage on a unit that outruns virtually everything except for dogs
What in the goddamn
>>170734239
>for some quite time, isn't it?
>>170734239
it makes the undead a pain to fight, still its better than lower difficulties which are too easy
>>170731364
>Finish an epic battle that probably took years of my life in stress, required tactics the entire time so the enemy doesn't simply overwhelm me, eventually won by a sword strike, literally shaking by the end
>A pyrrhic victory that end up never being talked of ever again
>Go kill some annoying rebels that are composed of ragtag horse fucker who for some reason decided to fight on the side of a fucking mountain, take an eternity to kill them as they are solely cavalry, nothing of interest happens
>Heroic victory, with a fucking annoying permanent sign on the worldmap to remind me for the entirety of the campaign I ass raped some insignificant rebel there once
Just like real life
>>170734072
More shots I think
>>170733851
>Get my army shot to death by an army with 6 pistollers that suddenly do 48 damage with armor-piercing
That's probably because of an event from the blood and gore dlc. It has nothing to do with SFO.
>>170706479
roll
>>170721547
Yn Sethayla
"The cry in the far mountains"
>>170724223
Retrograde reminder that the following are rightful Asur clay, and therefore rightful Asrai clay so from now on please refer to them with their correct names.
Dietershafen - Athel Toralien
Marienburg - Sith Rionnasc
Altdorf - Kor Vanaeth
Talabheim - Athel Maraya
Kislev - Athel Numiel
L'Anguille - Tor Alessi
Thank you
>>170734072
I usually go from rockets right to tpnks and skip the VG
>Fighting a beastmen army
>them fucking minotaurs
Doesn't matter if I reduce their armour by 30, their attack by 34, and their defence by 34 they still manage to route my armoured spearmen as soon as they hit the line, damn. and I dont got the units to spare to make a 3-4 line deep charge brace.
>>170735257
i will only when Asur are ingame
>>170734496
>Undead are crumbling
>but so are my own units
>To skellys that are still fucking fighting
>>170735391
Handgunners will destroy them. They can shoot even if the minotaurs are fightning your spearmen because they are so tall.
>>170735861
So
>Armoured spearmen
>Regular spearmen
>Regular spearmen
>Space
>Handgunners
Its not just them though, fights hectic with me trying to micro two pistolers and a reiksguard to deal with the 5-6 enemy archers, plus gelts leadership is shit. My units are breaking at a stiff wind from the enemy.
>>170736053
>Armoured spearmen
>Regular spearmen
Dude, what the fucking is going on here huh? What the fuck is that?
>>170736195
Dont have the halberds recruitment in the province, and he hasn't been home in awhile. So regular spearmen had been recruited to fill in the gaps in the army. The minotaurs just run through my first line of spearmen and end up breaking them so I need a back up to charge them and surround them.
>>170736404
When you say armoured spearmen do you mean shielded spearmen?
My radious alarm went off.
Either way you only need one reliable unit to tie up the minotaurs and then have the handgunners go to town on the minos(use two handgunners if you want it to go even faster)
>>170736195
I think he means armored as in "has shields".
Those seeking my counsel usually kneel...
>Let gelt get ambushed by 3 orc armies and lose my first army
>Get lucky and confederate Talabecland super early no idea why they were willing to.
>Get Franz
>He dies in defense of Helmgart against the double early beastman rush
>Hochland gets invited to the war and sieges Tabelheim
Fucking traitorous Hochland! I should have just save scummed.
>>170736404
Chariots do the same shit
Charge right through my melee line and skull fuck my arty
Fk those cunts
>Alberic doesn't have unique voice lines
NICE FREELC CA YOU JEWS
Fucking lol
>he hasn't been bested
>by anyone without an enchanted blade or who is mortal
>half the fucking realm is immortal/magic wielders
>>170702646
where are you getting these?
>>170738797
>Lord who's pretty much non-unique doesn't have unique lines
woooow
>>170735391
>Hold the Line!
>Passive
>Ld +4, Charge Resistance +100%
>>170739249
I made the terrible mistake of buying spells. Which kinda works.. His base spell is good, as is the armour reduction one. The others dont feel as good.
>>170733851
Nobody cares, enjoy vanilla and don't ever play mods if you want to
Rest of us are cumming our trousers in STEEL FAITH
>>170738797
He have best voice tho
>>170739438
The must-have for empire generals is hold the line, it's their faction's thematic ability and lets your puny little men stand up to monsters if their leader is by their side.
No matter what you want in the end you need to spend the first 3 skill points in route marcher, the base red skill, hold the line, then whatever.
>>170739958
He's not even the second best in Bretonnia.
Are evil factions supposed to be gimped to fuck in Steel Faith? Nobody is putting up any fights.
>>170733851
It's why I stopped using it as well. It's a great mod, but Jesus is it OP. Eternal Guard with gold shields are insane even with the small unit size. They are basically immune to any reasonable number of skirmishers. Was fun to use for one game I'll admit.
>ally offers me 6000 to join war with WRE-chan
What's the difference between a heroic and decisive victory?
>>170740689
>United Against Us!
>Faction: Your decades old defensive ally with 6 stacks on your border
>Invited by: Some 2 region faction across the continent who's been at war in name only and never seen your lands
>They probably did it for 2000 gold
I willnotbetray you!
I know it's petty, but it bugs me so much.
At the LOD range of 1, every single unit has their animation in perfect sync.
At LOD range of 2, they aren't in sync.
It looks so much better at 2 and doesn't look dumb.
I understand LOD is necessary for performance issues, but its the 3d-2d sprite/textures that are causing the performance problem, not the sprite's animation being out of sync.
Would it be so hard to change the animations at the LOD distance 1 to be out of sync? I really doubt it would affect performance at all and make the game look MUCH nicer.
Does it bug anyone else?
1-5 Belegar
6-0 Skarsnik
Revenge incarnate
>>170742253
Just play vampire counts and only use skellies. Then theyll always be in sync.
>>170739438
>spells
If you're playing gelt, you can get all of his spells + arcane conduit (11 pts), the red tree buffs up to stand your ground (11 pts), and unlock lightning strike (7 pts) with a point leftover to get his pegasus presumably, so you're not really blocking yourself out of anything in the long run, it might just be less useful starting out
Plague of rust is REALLY good though, I had 3-4 crossbows and the silver bullets, overcast it on the zombie dragon in one of his quest battles, and it melted in less than 10 seconds
>>170742515
>>170742594
>mfw patiently waiting to murder Queek
>>170742515
You have my hammer
>>170742715
I think I'm gonna make the elves my focus for this one.
>beat skarsnik
>expedition to 8 peaks for wealth
>use western mountains to get those fucking elves
>>170742515
>>170742594
>>170742715
>>170742784
Now I want to give another shot to legendary Belegar.
Any tips, /twg/?
>>170741286
Ai on higher difficulty hate you more than they do each other. On very hard, you have an automatic -50 relations.
>>170722594
Interesting, I almost always just operate at a fair loss past the earliest parts of a game, just raiding and sacking to keep my cash reserves high.
Though I always go for the maintenance reduction skills and eventually, building.
>>170742974
Am I the only one who tries to ignore skarsnik up north as much as possible, hoping that he legs it to 8 peaks later on as a sort of final boss?
They really need to make the AI more devoted to getting home too so karak azul/whoever doesn't claim it instead when you play another faction
>>170743261
problem is that the AI is too one-track minded to go for 8 peaks. Literally the only thing on its mind is how to dick the player by any means. He could send his gobbos to 8 peaks, or... raid the edge of your territory/attack an undefended village.
>>170743210
masturbate with sandpaper
same feeling, less stress around the same amount of blood
>>170696250
>play Dwarf faction
>don't play like Dwarfs
>complain
>>170743210
>beggar nohammer
How come regular greenskins are 2x bigger than regular men and much more muscular too, but suck just as much in hand to hand combat?
Are their swords made out of tinfoil or something?
>>170735085
ayo, thats pretty good cheers
>>170744343
Orc Boyz have double the charge bonus than Men-at-Arms
they also have almost 2k more HP
more morale too
Help a shitter out here: How do you get the Reikland Runefang? The Nords never have any interest with diplomacy for me. Do you all roll up the West side of the map early on or something?
>>170744343
they are untrained brutes, it would have been better reflected if they had higher weapon damage, but much lower melee attack and melee defense but CA doesn't really care, neither does 99% of the players
which really isn't a big deal, because I also don't care
i really wish the stats the stats in TWW were slightly more comprehensive, i've had the game for several months now and i have never played with karl franz on deathclaw since he seemed to have better stats on a pegasus.
>>170733851
who would've thought that black-powder weapons would be effective against armor?
you're telling me guns are effective?
>>170744631
Easier than fighting Orks for Ghal Mahz.
His quests are dumb hard early on with objectives though, yes.
>>170744737
But
Orc Boyz have higher weapon damage and lower melee attack and defense
are you even looking at the stats
>>170744771
Mounts are complex because attack animations are a much more important consideration than the stats alone. Deathclaw and all the other big birbs are absolutely the best possible option because of their wide, sweeping attack animations.
I HATE gits who disagree with me, but I hate EVERYFING ELSE even more
t. grimgor ironhide
OK here we go. I have seven armies setup up along the border of the Alamans and their allies. Gonna start a world war just to relieve the WRE.
>>170744343
The orc nervous system is remarkably undeveloped meaning that can ignore much more pain than a human but they lack the dexterity of their goblin equivalents. The orc relies on tanking and overpowering their enemies simply through brute strength rather than through skill in most cases. Also their weapons are shit quality with the best weapons always being stolen from other races such as the dwarves, chaos dwarves, and humans.
>>170744631
This is gonna sound wierd, but for Reikland Runefang, just turtle early on in Reikland and Marienburg and build up. At first everyone hates you as Empire, but they all eventually start to come along on their own eventually, and once people start to accept trade agreements and defensive alliances suddenly everyone wants to be your friend, including Nordland.
>>170744942
The Langoboards decided to join my side instead of the Alamans'. Things got a lot more interesting.
>>170744887
it would be nice if they added something that clarified it does aoe attacks, but as it is I can almost never tell. Also is it better to go ghaal maraz or runefang on big brother?
>>170744343
>>170744737
I fucking hate this.
A choppa should hit as hard as a greatsword by mass alone even if unsharpened, and an orc model is the size of a 300 lb gorilla, which could easily krump a human if it landed a hit. Factoring that with their sheer numbers orcs should be terrifying, not the 1:1 basic equivalent of a man wearing a funny hat and trousers.
>>170735257
So what happened?
>>170745132
t. Grimgor
>>170745229
Grimgor doesn't use a choppa he uses an axe he stole from the chaos dwarves
>>170745052
Six settlements are occupied, sacked or razed in one turn.
>>170745284
>bladed weapon
It's a choppa
>>170745132
I think fighting in units does fucky things to what humans can do
>1-2 Ostrogoths
>3-4 Visigoths
>5-6 Langobards
>7-8 Burgundians
>9-0 Suebians
the fact that warhammer doesn't have seasons really fucks up the wood elves desu, their campaign should have been heavily affected by them, imagine some 16-20 turn long seasons that have massive effects on replenishment, income, availability of certain troops (tree units fuck off in winter)
>>170745578
better yet tree units suffer severe attrition in winter
>>170745569
S U E B I
P
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>>170745624
orion should be really weak too, it would add an interesting dynamic to the campaign, instead of the constant fucking rapetrain of OP as hell LL's and units
>>170745578
>>170745624
>spring
>treemen models have a full head of leaves, dryads have flowers, everyone is feeling good
>winter
>everyone is bald and naked, nobody feeling good, -leadership
>>170744343
Bad writing and internal inconsistency
Also it's literally fantasy so don't think about it too hard
Have I made a mistake by playing as Mannlet and trying to confederate Vlad? The relations and difference in strength are there but the likelyhood of him accepting the confederation is still a solid red.
>>170747141
Beat him up and take everything he owns, lay siege to his last tiny village.
That's how you negotiate.
>>170745410
This
Orcs clambering over and shoving each other to be the first in the scrap and end up fighting two or three german spearman each.
Does anybody else get bored of administrative stuff in the mid-late game? I've only really played shogun 2 (400 hrs) but I always start and end a campaign before 90 turns because it becomes such a drag. Happiness maintenance, religion, allegiance... they feel more like speed bumps than avenues of strategy. I dabbled in Atilla but was really put off by the clan control/influence system. I wish CA will shift more playtime/emphasis to battles for the next game.
>these based formations
>perfectly uniformed divisions
>armored infantry hacking up hordes of savages in huge numbers
>field artillery
Are dwarves the trve romans of total war warhammer?
>>170747751
That's basically what happened with warhammer
>>170747892
One thing this game needs is the ability to save formations that create during deployment. They could last until you change your army but it would definitely be helpful once you've got an army (end-game or dirt-cheap) that's going to last the full game.
>>170748262
>Can custom create formations
>Save it and use it across fights
the technology!
>>170747892
The best stunties can hope for is to be the ERE of Warhammer
>>170717951
Yes, I've conquered Reikland and Wissenland turf and wiped out the empire.
All my neighbours hate me but I'm too strong for them to declare war so I think I'll just to the preemptive approach and conquer them too after I deal with Skaeling.
>>170747892
Oh and not to mention, their short stature and huge shields in proportion to body size
FIRE
RELOAD
FIRE
>>170746673
Bur orcs/orks are a threat in melee to anyone, including space muhreens in terminator armor, which usually win through skill rather than brute force
>>170749509
Fantasy Orcs are not as ridiculous as 40k Orks
>Argayon isn't even level 30 in the final invasion
why is he such a wimp?
>>170746275
it would also give you an excuse to use non LL lords as WELVES, its a pity really, their lords are cool as fuck with dragons and +12% range to archers, but Orion is just too op
>>170749509
A random squad of boyz isn't going to get through a terminator easily unless you've got a nob boss with a power klaw or something
in TW terms, it's about the same
You'd need black orcs to get through to an arch-lector
>>170749805
I auto resolved my battle with him.
The artillery makes me not want to play honestly.
>>170745313
Plunging into Italia, clearing it of Seps and Alamans.
>>170749994
Eh, on tt chances are the termie isn't going to survive a single turn considering the attacks he'll receive
Kholek, Archaon and Sigvald should automatically be leveled to 30 when the big invasion happens desu, hell Archie should get all his skills, except maybe lighting strike so that he actually feels like a real threat
>>170750224
>I auto resolved my battle with him.
eh, I always play battles against him manually, kinda feels wrong otherwise
>killed some urks, took back some holds
>wiped out a horde of savages before they could mess with anyone
>everyone preciatin' the exterminator doing his job and signing treaties with bonuses
>going around diplomacy menu like a hobo asking for 300 gold from everyone
>they all like me so they make donations every few turns
>building comfy mountain province
>norn hasn't imploded in the face of skarsnik yet
I don't remember belegar being this comfy, when does the buttfuck start? Isn't this supposed to be when five skarsnik stacks and 2 rando crooked moon rebels stacks underway straight in to my province and fuck my shit up?
>>170750224
>autos the final boss
You have to go back /tg/
What causes a "military crackdown"?
>>170751283
Facefucking a rebel stack to death
>>170731364
The fact of the matter is that heroic victories are way less likely in warhammer because you can't hardcounter shit with formations anymore.
Like if you could form a shieldwall with ironbreakers like you can with units in historical titles I'm sure I could get a heroic victory every fucking siege defence.
>put down rebellion for my puppet state
>they hate me for it
k
>>170750669
What should I do with Rome?
>>170732305
You probably aren't morale shocking.
The main way total war AI battles play out is that the enemy doesn't protect their general, you kill them, and then cause a route with more morale shocks.
>>170748062
Do you mean its fixed in warhammer or it's the same thing?
>>170744343
They are stupid as shit, and have zero self preservation
Imagine a 8 foot toddler with a sword, surrounded by 100 other 8 foot toddlers with swords and all they want to do is slash shit
You can image most of them hurt each other as much as they hurt the enemy.
>>170750998
why not mod it?
>>170752000
>Rebellion takes over
>population is free from your rule
Makes sense
>>170751080
If you haven't seen anything from the crooked moon gits yet, then they are definitely on the doorstep.
>>170751080
>made full stack and tunneled north
>Norn was patient and waited for skarsnik in his fortress
>killed skarsnik's stack and arachnorok without any help
>allied with norn, moving north to burn out crooked moon and secure the north
>getting paid for treaties by literally everyone I meet along the way
Comfygar Comfyhammer, Comfy Incarnate and true king of the eight peaks
>>170752370
>and have zero self preservation
This would make them better fighters, not worse.
>>170744343
They aren't, in the lore, at least. The Empire faction's main schtick is that they're regular humans facing impossible odds in the form of nightmarish creatures, and the only way the can persevere is through superior tactics, TECHNOLOGY and magic.
But it is a game, after all and it has to have at least a semblance of balance. And making Empire infantry troops melt against similarly priced units of Orcs would make the faction unplayable.
Ded killy Belegar or army buffs?
>>170752354
Battles are certainly more emphasized in warhammer compared to Atilla
>>170753009
IIRC a lot of his red skills do weird shit like buff rangers. He's a combat character, so just go full combat skills after lightning strike.
Any pro tips for feet lady faction? I survived the orc event, to my South beast men have turned Estelia into chaos wasteland so there's no point of colonizing.
Economy sort of sucks as well, not alot of room in my measly two cities to build up an economy. Can only field 1 army that's all peasants but I make do with them. Currently just engaged in some skirmishes with faggot elves, not too sure what I should be doing, or what I can even do, since my economy and army is very limited.
vampire bullying is fun, sisters of thorn are pretty useful, this is actually a shitty stack that was meant to take units needed for quests temporarily to Orion and Durthu but got sidetracked
>>170752516
you mean create a mod, or that a mod like that exists? because I have no modding skills, its not the number of stacks I want to increase, its their quality
>>170753921
Work on those confederation techs. Once you absorb one or two Bret factions, you'll be able to crusade just about anywhere.
>>170753512
>buffing rangers is weird shit
They're great though - and +25% damage is a fuckload.
>>170754184
There are mods that bring them up to level 30 but the mods also do shit like 4 more chaos stacks all chosen dragon ogres hell cannons knights doom stacks
>Turn 77
>still haven't played a single battle
fuck i need to stop abusing auto-resolve
>>170753921
Fuck up the !Notmediterranean states to pass the time while you confed
Is barbarian invasion fun?
Dwarfs should have trains
>>170753921
>beast men have turned Estelia into chaos wasteland so there's no point of colonizing.
>it's better that chaos rifts corrupt my land with osmosis than walking in and paying 1000 gold each to get 3 free settlements
??????
>>170744343
Str vs Dex
>>170753921
>build farm
>build windmill
>max out farm
>demolish windmill
>start building tailors
also put alberic Alberic in a port when you get him
>>170754939
"Marienburg was made for me"
- Alberic de Bordeleaux, probably
So generals don't increase upkeep for Brets?i wonder if the prophetesses turn a profit
>>170752853
>This would make them better fighters, not worse.
No anon, a bunch of idiots swinging around wildly unable to tell between friend and foe is not going to make them better combatants
>>170754827
Thanks to grail shrine and agent I don't have to worry about chaos corruption. I tried colonizing one of the smaller settlements and it was a lost cause. The chaos corruption is at like 70%. Rebellions, chaos armies / agents spawn non stop and I cannot dedicate my single army to maintain the peace because then the elves attack my actual territory.
The corruption just seems to be rising as well.
Ok fuck how do I kill huns?
>thought this'd be enough warriors
>2 stacks are gone
>already removed the barracks
GRUUUUUDGE
>>170754334
See thats retarded. But a level 30 lord for a true challenge in combat?
>>170755605
>So generals don't increase upkeep for Brets?
What
>test it
>its true
Holy fuck that would have made my L campaign way fucking easier, you can literally hire an army of generals and use that and get them all honor at once
>dying homeless would be preferable to your ancestors than surviving
>charity and accepting fellow dawi into a prosperous and safe home is dishonorable
I don't understand dwarves
Did Warhammer ever get cracked or is DENUVO really that tough.
>>170756432
All Dwarfs in basically all fantasy settings are treated as stubborn as fuck. Which makes them unyielding but also prone to stupid decisions that harm themselves.
Its not honorable to lose your home, and its not honorable to 'care' for dwarfs who cant care for themselves.
Why aren't goblin spears an anti-large unit? They got spears.
>>170756364
>Want a challenge
>Don't want to face a true chaos invasion
For real though with pack file editor you could edit the chaos invasion script and just change the EXP the lords are given on spawn to make them level 30.
Could also change the amount of skill points they get so they max everything out.
Its not too hard if you have any sort of intuitive understanding of scripts.
>>170756758
Because they are miniature and weak as fuck
>>170756579
too much dlc and expacs coming
>>170756758
too smol
>>170756758
Their reach is probably below that of Empire swordsmen.
>>170756661
What I like about WHF is that a lot of the factions are basically fantasy stereotypes taken to their natural end.
Dwarfs aren't just stubborn; their entire culture revolves on never forgetting OR forgiving anything that's ever been done to them. Their stubborness is neurotic on a race-wide level.
>>170756579
no point in cracking a game as actively updated as TWW
>>170756812
But I don't m8
I just want a true chaos threat
>>170756887
Its a pretty great setting.
Im so fucking glad this game got made and CA is supporting it.
>>170756758
bracing is what makes spears a good anti cav weapon, not simply being a spear itself.
goblins are just not that brave or disciplined.
>>170756024
Depends on your goal, I guess. If you're aim is to survive, probably not. If your aim is to kill as many enemies before dying, then absolutely. Fear impedes fighting ability, it doesn't enhance it.
>>170757118
I dont think you realize how stupid orcs are
>>170756315
OK FUCK THERE'S LIKE FIVE OF THEM NOW HELP
>skarsnik BTFO by belegar-norn wombo combo, norn actually was a good ally for once
>got back literally just in time for crooked moon gitz
>still hobo-begging just enough coin from every faction to develop home province at speed
>waifu accepted our proposal
>I kind of did it only because I really needed her gold
COMFYGAR
allies actually worth a dime this time
>>170757071
The best part is we still haven't touched on the more "absurd" races like Lizardmen, Skaven and Ogres.
>Dinosaurs with fucking sunbeam lasercannons on their back
>Skaven machine guns and sniper rifles that occasionally explode
>Ogre anything
>>170756953
>Get Pack File Manager
>Open data.pack from mani warhammer folder
>Script - Campagin- main_warhammer -wh_chaos invasion.lua
>Right click, extract selected, note file path
>File - New
>Files - Add from directory
>Add the scripts folder (contains directories to wh_chaos_invasion.ula you extrated)
Look for this part of the script file
-- amount of free XP to give agents and armies when spawning
-- agents | mid game | late game
-- rank 2, 3, 4 | rank 7, 8, 9 | rank 20, 21, 22
ci_character_xp = {{900, 1900, 3000},{6890, 8370, 9940},{32360, 34800, 37300}};
>Edit this to whatever amount you want
>Save as whatever
>Turn it on in your warhammer mod list
Congrats you just made a mod.
Whose dick do I have to suck to get a trade agreement around here?
>>170757820
>packs of fire-breathing dimetrodons
>>170757890Is she safe
>There is no better feeling than flanking a massive blob of goblin with a couple of Irondrakes and torching them into giving up.
They're the only reason my dwarf playthroughs start with White Dorf
>>170758093She's hurt in Africa, but safe there
Kill me.
>>170758391
Raise me.
>>170758419
Wipe me out
>VC are suddenly to play as when Mannlet von Idiot isn't your faction leader.
DLC really saved this faction.
Fuck the Roman Empire. I'm so glad it fell in 410 and I'm fucking cumming every time I slaughter a roman soldier as a based Visigoth.
Hail Alaric.
>>170759226
DO NOT MOCK ME
>>170759392
t.salty arab
>>170759392
DELET
>>170759392
THAT'S A GRUDGIN'
I've just finished a Napoleon campaign and feel like trying Empire again. What mod makes it most playable?
>>170759528
>>170759226
He really is insufferable. I wish they would have made Vlad a diplomacy lord though considering he's one of the greatest statesmen in Empire History.
I was really hoping for a legendary lord that revolved around building allies and corrupting them from within.
What kind of unbaraki scum are you?
newthread >>170760119