/twg/ - Total War General

So /twg/, I've just finished a Napoleon campaign and feel like trying Empire again. What mod makes it most playable?

I saw a vision of Gilles le Breton. He told me you were a faggot.

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Now that the dust has settled, what is your all-time fav TW game?

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I MUST PROTECT WRE-CHAN AND DEFEAT THE HUNS

Are there any good mods that change up the chaos invasion? In particular something that disables their suicidal tendencies.

How in the niggerfuck is the last (I assume) quest battle of the Wood Elf mini campaign even possible? I can barely scratch stinkbutt furfag in the time given and everything ends up as a blob of fighting and archers running out of arrows before he's even taken a fifth of his health. Playing on Hard.

Why is there no javelineers in Warhammer?

>>170760667

Skink Skirmishers in the Lizardmen army use javelins. They basically play like velites

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REMOVE GOBBO

>>170760667

some elite dwarf units have throwing axes

>>170760667

FCM of the empire are javelins, with guns.

>>170757774
Allies work decently if they agree to coordinate with you.

>>170760598
Wood Elves have access to absolute beasts of legendary lords after enough levels pumped into them

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What's the band name /twg/?

>>170762339
Bolt Thrower.

I'm so shit at this wtf.

How long did you guys play until you started getin gud.

I'm playing Attila btw

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Stop playing fantasy

>>170762339
Primordial Annihilators
Winds of Magic
Heralds of the End

>>170762617
Make me

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nth for slaaneshi bright wizards

>>170762502
It will come with time, if it makes you feel better you picked the most difficult game for a beginner

>>170762837
Noice thanks

>>170760667
you'd think savage orcs at the very least would have spear chuckers, but nope.

probably has something to do with doing animations for all the races, CA cutting corners like a motherfucker, etc etc

why the hell does the campaign map in warham give me fps drops. battles are perfectly fine.

So playing Broken Crescent as ERE and Mongols have just invaded. I've heard they are really hard in this mod so what do?

Anon. I think I've broken the beast man campaign a bit more than it is already.

1. Pick khazrak
2. With second lord (who is now called Dave) smash the ungor building. Combine all of Daves units into Khazraks. Meanwhile rape your way through estalia using Dave to bait armies out settlements because he has no units while Khazrak sits in ambush.
3. Get Dave the dog building. Fill Khazraks army with ungors then once you tech up gors. Fill Dave's army with poison dogs and harpies. Keep his and Khazraks together. Work in tandem.
4. Eat and rape your way to Khazrak having minotaurs. Get minos and as soon as possible the building that gives -50% upkeep. Fill Khazraks army entirely with minos of different flavours. Daves army should now have spawn, dogs, and huge numbers of battle pigs.
You are now unbeatable. Shit on everything.

>>170762339

How do you get Big Bird?

>>170762617

What are you gonna do, stab me?

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I'm tempted to declare war just for this shitty joke.

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fuck

>>170764061
Genocide.

>>170764220

Your melee cav/shock cavs should have way more kills. Also, you should have berserker infantry for the +melee attack buff. Your comp is shit.

I want to make a mod that revamps the Waaagh mechanic to be a persistent effect that lowers unit upkeep and improved Public Order based on how often you fight, with obviously bigger bonuses to winning a fight.

Does this sound like an improvement over the current Waaagh system?

How to stat out vampire heroes? I've only ever done necromancers and banshees

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>>170763932
It's the AI

>>170762502

You never enjoy Attila

You just suck less

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>>170764061
>travel to court of the humans to discuss serious matters of diplomacy and the common enemy
>this guy insinuates we're a bunch of drunken jokers who came here dressed like we are just so we could get wasted
>excuse ourselves and leave, he doesn't even know what went wrong
>put it in the book for someone else to fuck his people over with in 400 years

>>170763932
Are you asking how to get him in MP?

>>170764848
All dat Honor

All dat Chivalry

>>170764932

No, is it possible in GC?

>>170764984
Not that I know of. There may be a mod.

>Play Chaos
>The dwarfs chase me around with 5 stacks
STOP
LIGHTNING STRIKE ISNT ENOUGH

>>170764693

I feel like any mechanic that makes GSs less of a cluster fuck goes against the spirit of the faction

>>170764693

Though borrowing from other factions seems lazy, making Waaagh a seperste currency that allows instant recruitment in the field in the same way "Raise Dead" works is a much better system over "Spawn a rando AI army"

>>170764835

I went soul leach + full melee

>>170765136
>running away
>not able to outrun such short legs

>>170764904
>insensitivity over the destruction of Bugman's brewery
THAT'S A GRUDGIN

>>170765141
Agreed. A WAAGH! just isn't the same without an overdose of autism.

>he doesn't hotkey/group every single unit in his army

lmao fucking pleb

>>170764835
Never went without Nehek

>>170765348
>PUMP THOSE DWARVEN LEGS

>>170764564
Rude.

>>170765479
Deal with it, if you were a roman I would strap you to a cross for your gross negligence to the states army.

>hobo begging everyone for more gold again because belegar
>click, click, accept 300 gold
>click, click, accept 300 gold
>click, click-
>COUNTEROFFER
>200 gold and I clicked into a defensive alliance with fucking bohemond of bastonne
>reload the autosave and have to do it all again

There needs to be a mod that disables counteroffers.

>>170765680
If you were a Roman you'd be dead already.

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Recently got back into Napoleon: Total War after several years.

I love it even more now than I did before. Battles in WTW can look pretty magnificent, but evening maps in NTW are absolutely mesmerising.

>dim light
>battlefield is covered in thick smoke from the black powder
>it lights up in tight intervals coupled with the smattering of gunfire
>sometimes a loud boom is heard from the cannons as a cannonball bounces across the fields
>mfw

Do dismounted lords attack more in combat? It almost feels like it's not worth giving them a mount (unless it's a gryphon or similar).

>>170765973
Maybe if you weren't rushing with your little piddly deals

>>170766043
Have you ever fought against the red duke?

It's fucking funny seeing him going 2fast and catching up with my cavalry.

Seriously, that guy deserves a medal.

>>170766043
It depends, but I find the bonus mass and mobility to make up for it vs Ai.

>>170766043
Some lords benefit from staying on foot, yeah. I'm not sure Vlad can get a mount at all.

It's only really worth mounting them if you really need the mobility for something specific, or if the mount is special on its own (like it being a flying mount, or something unique like Beaquis)

>>170762502
a big part of playing attila is getting your ass kicked

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It is now March. Athel Loren grows restive, casting aside the austere serenity of Gaurach-Dúin. The boughs and brambles tremble, and through the glades and hollows the spites whisper of Spring.

The Eternal Queen, recumbent in her pleasure, awaits the attentions of her rejuvenated Consort-King. The first outriding of the cycle yields rich game, youths flush with the iridescent bloom of pox and prepubescence. Cherry blossoms flutter their brief glories across the Eternal Realm. And still more. The fey giggle of a return, a recovery of what was once lost. The sacred trustees, deputized by their Queen to carry out the vulgar realities of reign, are poised to return from the Dreaming Wood.

Sisters of Twilight soon.

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>brewing brews in home province and norn colony
>begging for jew gold and making trinkets with it
>taking it easy and saving up money to prepare the expedition to eight peaks
>we now have goats to fuck in our spare time

COMFYGAR

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>>170766521
WHEN

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>>170766621

Why is everything so dark

>>170766790
It is an age of darkness

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>81 units destroyed for 1 unit lost

I would say that this legendary bret campaign is going alright

>>170766790
probably better campaign map mod

>>170766260

My army feels incomplete without a flying Lord

But non flying mounts I can do without

Wood Elves are even more fun now with Brets being a real threat and the recent changes.

I just wish the early game wasn't so slow.
>Okay so everybody hates you and you're horrible in a Siege, there's a castle in almost every direction.

At least Skarsnik is an easy target but after that it's a struggle in any direction.

>>170766869
I despise how all modders call their work "better" or "improved" or "fixed" when they really mean "different"

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>>170766869
>>170766831

>check workshop
>45,635 Current Subscribers

According to the preview pics all it does is make everything darker

Or am I missing something here

How do I defeat the huns if they keep bunching up their five armies? How can I isolate them?

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Rock the boat!

>>170767326

Night battles

What I did was prep up 3 armies with the sole purpose of defeating the Huns right from the start of my campaign

I ended up having a really anti-climatic ending to my WRE because of that

>>170767385
don't rock the boat baby

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Alright, smooth sailing so far, now what kind of expedition do I prepare for the eight peaks grudge? These are what I have available and longbeards of both types will be available in one turn.

One slot I'm saving for grumbling guard which I'll pick up before I go to save money. What else do I take? And should I use the ghosts in my army for the siege, or ditch them now and bring 4 more units?

>>170763102
CA have absolutely nothing to do with it, they just make what is present in the army books. Stop saying they're cutting corners in the one thing they're actually doing a really fucking good job at.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer/Tactics/8th_Edition/Orcs_%26_Goblins

>>170768210

Use the engie to blow holes in the wall

>>170768376
...never would have thought to do that.

So no cannons at all, stack in as many longbeards as I can?

>>170763570
Does this work?

>>170766869
>better
It just makes things harder to see
Why are people using it

>>170768461

I usually take lots of Quarrellers, a few dwarf warriors and a longbeard unit or 2.

I level the thane ghosts a bit so they are a bit killy, then let them go in first with Belegar to fuck shit up in the breach while I have Quarrellers rain shit down on them while they fight. A grudgethrower here also helps.

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I recently got Rome 2 and I've put 40 hours into it since.
How the fuck do I kill hoplites?

>>170769028
Yell mean things at them, usually lowers their moral enough to make them rout.

>>170769028
Hit them in the butt with either rocks or horses.

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i just realized global and local recruitment are independent of each other and you can use them both at the same time in the same army

>>170769028
flank m8

i member in rome 1 playing as the greeks i sent an expedition to rome and my well balanced hoplite army got fucking assraped

i also had a campaign in rome 2 DEI as antigonids, fuck scythian horse archers bruh

>>170769286
Never knew that.

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There is no way in real life that the huns were that tough. This is nuts.

WELCOME TO FAI-

WELCOME TO FAI-

WELCOME TO FAI-

>>170769028
Also, what determines the amount of captives you take after a battle?

Is there any reason to do it?

>>170769028
Beginner: throw javs

Intermediary: cav into their butt

Advanced: javs into their butt

Doc Manhattan: cycle charge cav into their butt while they are engaged from the front

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>>170769019
Too late now, the longbeards are summoned and we're marching to retake karak eight peaks.

GRIMNIR VULT

We're also back to being hobogar, longbeards are fucking expensive to pay. I already begged everyone for more shekels. Everything around us is safe though, the beastmen actually razed Orion's glade before getting killed off, taking two birds with one stone.

>>170769760
Cerebrum the size of Manhattan: Talk them down

>>170769450
>using xbows instead of your 200 range longbowmen

lad

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In what Significant ways do Steel of Faith change the game?

Do it alter the balance of the factions in a non retarded way at-least or is it an complete shitfest?

Also do the General flow of the campaign change or is still like how you would expect it to turn out power wise between the factions?

Would Really appreciate some information about it

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that was satisfying

>>170770104
SFO is worth trying out for yourself. Chances are you'll quickly love it or hate it. Overall though, SFO is roughly as imbalanced battle and campaign -wise as vanilla, but in different ways. Where as vanilla feels underpowered (such as magic), SFO is OP AF.

Try a few turns/battles at least, before passing judgment either way.

>>170770104
Dunno, I just did a campaign wit hit as dorf and shit was much, much easier than a regular game.

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there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that doubt the power of the lou and franny friendship

>>170770104
Try it yourself and see if you like it, what else do you have to do, play another vanilla campaign?

So the new world map makes the most sense for one of the two standalone expansion maps.

But what's the other one? We have Darklands, Chaos Wastes and Southlands but neither contain enough factions to create a standalone campaign map. If you combine them both the map would be long and stretched out and not very interesting.

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Guys my economy is a bit red, what do I do?

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>>170769948
>run into some GITS on the way over
>that giant we killed back home wasn't some starter unit the gits get
>they actually have giant production facilities and are spamming them

We need to get over there soon.

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>>170770747
That's a lot of peasants.

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Real fair

Recommend me greatest Total War game.

Big history buff here

>>170770740
Chaos Wastes and Darklands can be rolled into one, which would give us
>Daemons
>Chaos Dorfs
>Ogres
>?????

KANGS will probably have to be their own DLC, they just staple onto the bottom of the badlands anyway.

>>170771437
medieval 2 with the planetwar mod

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>>170771420
Oh look, their reinforcements spawned right on top of mine and they took turns entering the battle together

>>170771482
Having Kangz be a direct opponent for orcs will make the badlands that much easier for dorf to grab.

>build a whore house in carcassonne so i can think about all the lewd things feet goddess does with her feet in her tower

>>170771783
>Open a brothel in Bretonnia.
>Can't fill it with anything but inbred peasant girls and the occasionaly noble willing to risk her reputation for thrills.

>Empire
>Women of all backgrounds and status
>Elf and dwarf districts
>People from all over the world
>Can't open brothels

Truly, the Old World is a frightening place.

>>170772076
>Some guy kidnap a dwarf woman to put in his brothel.
>Dwarfs raise the entire district in anger.
I think the empire policy is pretty wise t obe honest.

>>170772076
bretonnia has easy access to dorfs and elves too. what is this meme? and i think you mean THICC farm girls, not inbred peasants

thinking about getting attila, how is the combat compared to rome 2? everything felt really floaty for me in rome 2

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>You rush a settlement
>On the enemy's very next term, their main army fucks you because your guards don't instantly respawn in the captured city.

>They rush a settlement
>On your very next turn, you try to attack them, but the guards instantly spawned in their city at full health

Why does CE give the AI so many handicaps?
This sort of stuff is not fun. The AI literally gets to cheat the rules, and were suppose to be okay with it.
This is not the correct way of making proper difficulty.

>>170772790
how does an rts feel floaty?

>>170772831
Because they're too dumb and lazy to make the AI actually smart and an AI that's both as stupid as TWW and actually following the rules is GGEZ.

When I face chaos stacks as any faction, 1 or 2 hell canons are enough to heavily damage my forces.

However, when I play Chaos and put 6 hell canons in my army, they are like peashooters.

What is up with that?

>>170773040
combat between units feels like it has no weight
its like 2 blobs standing next to each other until one runs away

>>170772680

>thicc farm girls

Need to be fed to be thicc

>>170769616
HERRO, DER RADY WIRRS IT

>>170773043
I've seen the AI do some oddly brilliant things sometimes.
It seems to me, that creating an more intelligent AI is not out of reach, nor requires much change.
Just, you know, actual effort and testing.

>>170773269
All devs should just take notes on the AI in FEAR desu. I don't care if they're just following scripts, it works and makes them feel much more alive and intelligent than enemies in any other game, regardless of genre.

>>170770747
Spend less on candles.

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Can someone with TW:W confirm this for me?

Did they really alter Orion's face in the diplomatic menu? Was it really just to avoid Mel Gibson comparisons? is CA that retarded?

He looks absolutely horrendous in my game now, it looks like they purposefully mashed the textures together in ways they weren't supposed to go.

I don't give a fuck about Mel Gibson, but I don't want to play Wood Elves at all now because of how fucking atrocious they look in the diplomacy menu. What the fuck guys, is this just my game? is this a bug?

>>170760667
Maurder Horsemen throw javs
Sisters of the Thorn throw javs
Lizardman Skinks will have jav foot hordes

>>170773387
what made fear ai so great ? for me they just seem to go into cover a lot and thats it

>>170773269
TW AI can be smart, I remember when I first started I played Shogun 2 on Normal because it was both my first RTS and first TW and the AI would hillcamp like motherfuckers. But like I said, they're too dumb and lazy to actually make the AI better, they'd rather just let it cheat because surely nobody would be able to tell that a single region faction with no economy buildings or trade partners fielding two full stacks is bullshit.

>>170773498
I've noticed no differences.

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You know what to do, lads.

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>>170765996
I hope you are playing with LME.

>>170773943

>>170769286
Dumb frogposter
It's the best way to quickly raise an army. Use global recruitment for the cheap units, local for the elites, they'll both be finished at the same time.

Brets can global recruit peasant archers (and mobs) in a single turn, quick way to fill out a stack for a remote battle.

>>170772076
Good thing there are no brown nippled humans in Warhammer, so every girl is an 8+/10.

So witch hunter

>>170773148
Idk, but I have seen vids where manual controlling a hell cannon can net you big kill scores:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhj9ieKyGhc

>>170772076
Araby exists.

So which nation is actually most likely to be next? The last major faction not added is the elves the main catch is albion is way off map and lets be honest adding them and not the dark elves would BS. The skraven are the last nation that fits in the already made map if im not mistaken and it could be cool having unique mechanics like having your army spawn INSIDE SETTLEMENTS but the main draw against them adding skraven is they dont exist. Tomb kangs seem plausible since that part of the map sorta exists and they are like the most requested faction right? What would make the tomb kings unique compared the counts mechanic wise anyway?

>>170774383
Meant this guy >>170774252

>>170774418
I think the standalone expansion comes next, in which case we'll get 4 races at once

>>170773679
You're right. I'm apparently retarded.

Somehow my graphics settings got turned down and none of the Legendary Lords have as drastic of a dip in quality as Orion seems to, so his picture seemed jarringly bad in comparison.

So witch hunter, what do with him?

>>170774512
80$

>>170760458
Medival II

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Well I'm here, what do I do now? K8P actually looks pretty impregnable from where I'm standing, that boss stack in there is never going to leave, is it? Do I take black crag first? I can't settle valaya's sorrow, they're so close they'll just walk up and krump my diminished forces if I do that.

There's a level 15 Grimgor with 10 pay2win regiments hanging out nearby as well, I just can't see him now.

>>170760458
Shogun 2

>>170774537

Either assassinate dudes on the battlefield or off of it.

Post ur face when ur hero fails yet again.

>>170774896

The best way I've found to take K8P as dwarfs is to bleed them over two battles.

Blast down their walls and towers, then decimate them with your superior ranged fire. Once you've exhausted your ammo, withdraw off of the battlefield.

>>170774896
besiege it, and wait - either

>stack inside will sally out w/ the garrison and fight you in a field battle
>or the second stack up by black crag will come down and attack you, also a field battle

Since dawi are so much better than orc scum you should be able to take them on in a field battle, and then easily defeat whatever is left inside K8P

>>170775364
>implying the AI won't instantly regenerate its garrison after I retreat, upgrading the fortress to level 4 as well because fuck the rules and fuck the player

>>170775531
Maybe I should've gone with this, but it's too late now.

We're snatching black crag from under Grimgor's nose. It'll make a good siege camp and I need to pick up some more pay2win regiments after some leveling. I'll try to draw them out once we're ready.

Is lore of metal less of a joke with the buff?

DO NOT WASTE MY TIME WITH PEPE TALK

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Suck my dick, your majesty
It is thanks to the Empire declaring war on me with my defense alliance (the whole brettonian), I am confederating left and right
Now I better do something to stop the war asap, I dont want to wreck Empire too early

>>170775774
It was average before, but now it is op.

enjoy it before the nerf

>>170775774
Buffs/debuffs are great

>>170773186
>>170772790
anyone?

isn't there a DLC unlocker?

>>170765449
I group units but only to have them organized by their relative position on the battlefield ie 1 is my left flank, 2 is my main line, and 3 is my right flank

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Tease in 3 weeks.

>>170771437
Warhammer Total War.

>>170776438

Why do people keep making these images?

>>170776438

Sounds great, but how certain are you?

>>170776603

Speculation is fun as fuck.

>>170776651

Marius and Knights Panther are a dead lock to be added.

>Empire needs a new start
>Marius is an 8thED lord
>Knights Panther Chapter House exists in game already

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Himyar anon here - Roman/Jewish war is over, and I made peace w/ the WRE so that I can stabilize Africa (the religious differences penalties are huge due to the latin christian population, no such problem in macedonia since I converted the ERE to judaism before destroying them)

>>170776603
speculation, and showing what they want out of future dlc. Before the grim and the grave nobody would have predicted a literal who like ghorst getting into the game, but now CA has shown that they are willing/able to put in all sorts of stuff and even make some oc units (hippogyph knights/foot squires for brets). Also CA has set up a structure for the Lord/RoR packs, and that allows people to lump together what they think fits in one pack thematically

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>>170776438

if thats going to be paid dlc, whats old friend then?

>>170776438
Old World is done after Old Friend. You are never getting Marius Faggot nor Gorbad Dicksuck.

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>>170776438

theres no more paid dlc coming, ca literally confirmed all thats left is old friend

>all of that shit

what point does any of it serve?

>>170777096

Harry the fucking Hammer

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>when the chivalry hits

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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Bretonnia is the best faction in the game?

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>>170777096

Probably another Vampire lord or something.

>>170776438
>>170777096
More likely will be the ROR update for Chaos, Beastmen, Wood Elfs, Bretonnia, or an extra faction or two for empire.
I seriously doubt we'll get much more from the greenskins for a while.

>>170775707

You can end your turn still sieging them if you walk off the battlefield. Counts as a draw.

>>170777524
>allowing every faction in the game to do RoR spam

they need to fix the system/the ai's use of them before they add any more, I'm tired of fighting thousands of norgrimling's ironbreakers whenever I go to war w/ the dwarfs

>>170777391
Hypothetically, they really are.
Cheap anvil and incredible hammer.

What's a good start for the new von carstein faction? I'm used to Vlad's drakenhof cheese start where you take temeplhof turn 1

>>170777639
welves are the best hammer anvil faction

>>170776438

>Marius
Ok sure give him some kind of event revolving him being nuts cool.
>Gorbad
Grimgor with a mount but not as strong as Grimgor?

>Templar Grand Master
What does this do that an Empire General doesn't? Why this over a Wizard Lord?
>Savage Orc Warboss
Again for what purpose? This only benefits Wurrzags faction.

>Huntsmen
If they're like TT, this could be useful.
>Knights Panther
Why?
>Celestial Hurricanum
Why?

>Spear Chukka
Actually needed, early long ranged AP for stuntie shits.
>Pump Wagon
Not really necessary, could be cool if they had different variants like the Corpse Cart.

3/10 wouldn't buy.

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>>170777635
I would tend to agree.
If they had double upkeep, and took 3-4 turns to respawn, it would be far more akin to the mercenary mechanics of past total wars.

>>170777675
you can btfo mannlet incredibly fast if you don't care about confederating with him, which will give you access to drakenhof's gold mines incredibly early.

>>170777524
>I seriously doubt we'll get much more from the greenskins for a while.

To be fair to the Greenskins, they're second only to Chaos in missing shit department with Empire coming a close third.

Dwarfs have literally every single unit from their TT army book. Vampires are 1 unit short of a full roster.

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Man these traits are cool, unique title and everything.

>>170778085
shame other factions don't get them. There could be some cool traits for the "bad" factions for btfoing the "good" guys in battle

>pay a barbar faction to establish trade relations with them
>a couple of turns later they just decide to burn their capital down and become hobos

>>170771437

Medieval 2 with Stainless Steel or Broken Crescent.

>>170778179
How hard is it to mod in traits?

how do i get other empire provinces to like me for a comfy confederating game?

>>170778752
Well you see all you gotta do is SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS.

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Don't want to go into Italia yet, but I need their city in Macedonia for the olives. They were defensive allies with the saxons, but a small payment to the saxon men ensured that they wouldn't get their blood shed yet

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>>170775871
Just fuck off, I dont want any war with you

>>170773943
roll

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>>170778840
>river battle at the river that marks the border between our territories

should be fun - this is the kind of stuff that I miss in WH

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G O B L I N S

>>170779032
How do you look at the terrain?

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how likely is renaming cities going to screw up mods with total warhammer?

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>>170779282
button in the bottom left, its only available in attila/wh

>>170777939
I'm about to kill mannlet's faction but I do kind of want him as a lord for later on
should I subjugate/vassalize and then try and confederate when he's back on the field?

>>170771482

I'm really confused by CA's apparent decision to not make Tomb Kings a DLC for the first game. They don't make sense as part of a game that would include Ulthuan and the New World, and they hardly make sense as part of the eastern map slated for game 3 since Nehekara would turn that map into an awkward reverse L shape.

Are there any Rome 2 mods that make it an enjoyable battle system? I don't want to buy the game if there's no decent mods for it.

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Should I agree with their trade pack or should i just take all of their lands?

>>170779920
Wouldn't nehekara be just across the sea from the jungles of lustria though?

>>170779823
noice thanks

>>170780319
You should go fuck yourself.

>>170780319
Did you know that in the lands of the Empire, they give peasants RIGHTS?

Go to war.

>>170765996
>>170773978
My rank and file bretherin.

>vassalize mannfred
>declare war on stirland
>war coordinate so he captures the Moot
>break treaty, take drakenhof, and leave him to lord over the halflings
Perfect

>>170780656
D-DO NOT MOCK HIM!

>>170780701
go to bed mannlet or Isabella will start deducting good boy points and you'll never get a new varghulf

I AM FRANZ

They will obey

>>170780923
I AM THE TRUE VON CARSTEIN!

>>170778085
I hope they get given to other factions heroes,lords and LL's. I really, really like how you earn and lose them. Plus the flavour text is fun to read.

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Its at moments like these that I wish I had a large onager with me

>>170777096
Krell, New wight hero for vampires who is made to synergize with Kemmler

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>>170781157
>enemy general kills himself on the caltrops he set up

genius

>Kislev abandoned their capital and just went to take over the whole north
Fucking Dmitry I swear

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It's done, we are king of eight peaks. WAR OF VENGEANCE BEGINS

>>170760179
darthmod is a solid choice. Don't care much for the new units but you can play as any minor, as well as some graphical/gameplay changes that are for the most part for the better. Main bug though is a the computer taking forever to calculate ottomeme turns, however there was a fix for that.

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ty to the anon who suggested I take the lads w/ capes - despite their low armor, the shield wall + their absurd melee defence makes them very good

>>170781519
>not using a mod to make it your capital
>not letting your other holds be destroyed just so you can set 8peaks as your capital

step it up dawi

>>170782071
I was actually going to post complaining about just that, what mod lets me change capital?

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>>170782019
>tfw you can see exactly where the battle-line was

neato

>>170782143
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873670692
It only works on new saves, though, it's a startpos mod.

>>170778752

Burning down Crooked Moon is decent for the south factions. Fighting vamp cunts is good for Stirland etc.

Fight their enemies, give out the gifts etc. I never war my co-factions unless its an incredible jew like Marienburg that is impossible to confed because of their strength.

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>>170782236
close battle, but the entirety of the separatist's forces in macedonia were here, and I have reinforcements coming from the south to take the nearby city, assuming the garrison somehow made it out alive

>>170782313
yeah, found that one and ruled it out, oh well. Karak Izor is pretty well developed thanks to skarsnik fucking up big time, works for me as a capital. It'll be the launching point to invade athel loren anyway, literally no better place to do it from.

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>Saxon grammar

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Eat cock you undead wankstains

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>>170783204

>>170779771
I-is that a bulge I see?

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Won the jewish victory, but I'm not done yet - divine or nothing

>>170783201
>Expecting proper grammar from barbars

>>170783201
they're still getting used to the whole "one god" thing. it's a pretty silly concept, give them a break senpai

>>170760179
Imperial Destroyer. You're a pleb if you pick anything else.

>Skaeling raiding while putting just one step into my land then sanic out of my reach
Would you kindly fuck off with your mouse and cat game?

Where do I start with Aksum, like what's their good units and how do I expand into Egypt and not get raped by Romans or Sassykids.

>want Chinese Total War game but afraid CA will go full Red Cliff/Dynasty Warriors and have 1 unit General get 200 kills.
This isn't warhammer CA, pls don't do this

>>170783817
>how do I expand into Egypt and not get raped by Romans or Sassykids.

Use your priests to spread your religion to their provinces and then stack that with their abilities that reduce public order in order to spawn rebellions, and then take the cities from the emergent factions that spawn after the rebellion is successful. Thats what I did to get into the levant/egypt as the Himyar w/o going to war with the ERE. But Aksum has a quest to get a spice monopoly early, and that is basically going to force you into war with the Sassanids, since two spice ports are owned by their satraps, and one is owned by them and is in their capital province.

As far as units its been a long time since I played them but they have a very good & unique roster - your Tor spears are great thanks to their unique abilities, and if you upgrade the spice port high enough you get spice warriors, who have low armor but a bonus vs infantry w/ high weapon damage.

>>170773978
>not NTW 3

>>170784159
An I want 30 years war Total war.

>>170783201
What if he's referring to other factions

>>170784286
Nyet

Just make it a standalone expansion for medieval 3 . like Attila /Napoleon

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Do you like her new carpet, /twg/?

>>170784453
>using a pronoun to refer to a non-existant antecedent

nah son

>>170784569

Averland Carpet?

>>170770053
Haven't researched them yet

>>170784159
some kind of dueling mechanic would be cool

>>170784569
>warhammer
>carpet

Pick one son.

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It's time.

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>>170769450
>two ranged units against horsefuckers

A better army comp would certainly help you there anon.

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?

>>170785187
The pagan gods keep a man healthy and strong.

Also, Age of Vikings got some dumb names for kingdoms. "Kingdom of Germany" or "Kingdom of Ireland" is nice, but then you get "Kingdom of North Sea", "New Roman Kingdom", or "Kingdom of Brythonia", if you use the sub-mod to play as Wales. Why not "North Sea Empire", "Kingdom of Rome", and "Kingdom of Britannia"?

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>>170778840
Didn't want to move into Italia until I had dealt w/ the Illyrians, but after the initial peace deal negotiated when Dyrrhachium fell, the Separatists parked a fleet in the bay and had an army w/ a shit ton of agents present sitting outside the city, which triggered me. So I declared war and sunk their King's army, which was embarked in the adriatic, and destroyed the forces tresspassing on my territory. Apparently they didn't learn their lesson last time, so I figured I'd clip their wings a little, starting with these settlements in magna graecia. Once these are mine, I can turn on the italians in syracuse, and own the entire province.

>>170785187
I've seen ERE emperors live up to 130 yrs old

I think I've fucked up my Chaos campaign. I've got two strong stacks but the lack of income is murdering me and I'm running out of things to sack to stay afloat. I've still got endless stacks of dwarfs to get through and if I try to brute-force it I'll eventually just burn myself out
Am I just fucked at this point or should I consider dropping back down to one stack for a while and finding another area to hide in?

>>170785463
when you drop down to one stack never kill the leader; you want your building progress to remain

otherwise idk

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>>170785370
Blind General is going to have to hold off 3 enemy stacks until his naval reinforcements arrive

Unfortunately the AI stacks are all Cornuti spam, which makes this lees interesting than it should be

>>170783765

It'd be cool if there were certain nodes the AI would have to raid on top of to acquire dosh. Like sitting on farms, or disrupting commerce town along the road. Christ though, the north shore has tons of barbar scum streaming across it in my current game. Sending Gelt and Franz to burn their towns down back, while Todbringer and my Volkar try to hold back the main chaos army in a delay.

>>170785167
Yeah, like I said, I don't know how to fight huns. I asked people earlier for help but nobody responded.

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>>170785331
so u be sayin we wuz empires nd shiet?

>>170785370
This guy in particular lived to 146 before I killed his faction

>>170785667
Yes.

>>170785582
Heavy infantry, archers and light cavalry.

>>170764693
Orcs should primarily be a horde. Fightiness should determine how high quality the units you can recruit are, and should grow and decay much slower. Occupied settlements should do something other than act as recruitment points, not unlike how the wood elves use untakeable settlements for miscellaneous bonuses.

Basically orcs on the campaign map should play like a hybrid of beastmen and pre nerf wood elves.

As the Empire can I recruit lords, put them in a slot like treasurer, then disband them while they keep that slot so I don't have to pay upkeep?

I really don't need my confederated lord and his shitter army.

>>170785706
What's the light cav for? I'm never going to catch their horse archers

>>170785582
Ok, I wasn't around earlier but for horsefuckers I tend to roll an infantry heavy army.
I'll take the best archers I have, slingers can also work but archers shoot over your dudes better.
The best heavy spears I have to deter horsefuckers from breaking through to my missile troops. If your spears aren't any good against inf you may need a sword melee unit or two to help them our.
Some decent light cav, mostly for chasing down fleeing units but also can be useful for hammering inf.
Siege engines can be good for sniping generals and causing the horsefuckers to rush you cause the AI hates them.

I feel like there was a grave error in not having any fucking speeches before battle in Warhammer of all things.
It writes itself. Hell you can just pull shit right out of books that were already written.
There are STILL things in Medieval 2 that I haven't heard before.

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>>170785582
If you're playing ERE the strategy changes a little bit.

>>170785582
Since you are playing franks, your best tools are

>heavy spearmen
>long range germanic/elite germanic archers
>cavalry both melee/shock
>light raider cav of some sort
>melee inf of your choosing
>large onagers

The basic idea is to have your long range archers utilize flaming shot to destroy the hunnic archers, while your spears soak up missile fire/tank cav charges. Your melee infantry is for the uar/chosen uar warriors the hunnic doomstacks spawn with, and you melee cav can go toe to toe with the hunnic melee cav due to the fact that the hun cav doesn't have bonus vs large. The skirmish/raider cav gets hidden until the huns engage you, and then they go and destroy the 2 large onagers the huns tend to bring. Your own onagers are for forcing the huns to come to you, which allows you to assume a defensive formation.

>>170769028
Javelins, anon.
Skirmishers are great in Rome 2, unlike Rome 1.

>>170785905
don't listen to that guy, they have no place against huns. only cav you bring is the heaviest, hardest shit youve got and that's only kept behind your flanks to countercharge any shock cav trying to come around to break your line. otherwise keep them away from their archers and horse archers as best you can.

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I didn't know you could gain this trait

it's never enough to make either unit formidable but it's still a nice little boost to make them slightly more survivable than just flank harrassers

>>170785817

Yes you can. Most of them don't give benefits unless they're in a province though.

>>170785907
>>170786223
OK assuming I can beat their armies man-to-man in the field, how can I defeat the faction? They just spawn 0-upkeep stacks for free and there's no way to keep up with that.

>still
>no
>Mousillon
>UNLOCKER

REEEEEEEEEE

THEY'RE THE COOLEST FACTION AND THEY'RE GONE

Im only supposed to use knights when playing as brettonia right? It just doesnt feel right letting the peasants hold anything other then a pitchfork.

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How do you make Chaos fun while being unique to races like Beastmen etc.?

>>170785187
You're giving me Med 1 flashbacks where if you got El Cid to join you the guy was immortal unless he got shanked

>>170786539
You have to kill attila to stop the infinite doomstacks. Unfortunately he has multiple lives, and can be difficult to actually kill. If you can't kill him outright, its better to leave defeated hunnic armies alive, as that will prevent new ones from spawning w/ t3 units, and defeated hun stacks tend to only recruit shit tier mercs to replenish themselves

>>170786625
Yeah, if you are rich enough. Grail Guardians make a nice anvil, questing knights deal loads of AP damage, grail knights ram in from the flanks while Hippo riders hunt down ranged and flying squads

>>170762339

Two and a Half Fags

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>>170786762

>>170786629
Campaign begins with selection of one of the chaos gods. Allow god-specific unit selection. Alter campaign goals/missions based on god.

>>170786629
I guess for Chaos play up the four gods in the tech or general tree and for beastmen make them undivided(too cerebral) but you could make unit recruiting tied to sacking towns because rape

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>>170785573
>13 melee def

so much for reinforcements

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>>170762402

chaos wastes = the zone?

>>170784569
i really like all the lady carpets

>>170786063
I'm playing a Huns right now, but I've received exactly 0 (zero) denarii from the ERE. How do I get them to pay me?

Maybe I shouldn't have razed a settlement of theirs.

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Man fuck these guys

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>>170786886
shotel>spear

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>>170787403
CORNUTI SENIORES

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Are achievements bugged? I've fought and won way over 10 ambush battles as the welfs and it still hasn't popped. Same thing with the build a certain number of buildings as the orcs.

>>170786607
I was wrong.

It begins...
MOUSILLON.

>>170787605

Not sure about the ambushes one but for the buildings achievement you have to complete them all on the same turn.

>>170787605
Welfs, no idea. Orcs, are you playing Greenskins or one of the subfactions?

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>>170787616
well, that wasn't as dramatic as I was hoping.

...pic related. fuck.

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>Be Alberic, having war against Empire
>They rush in, attack Montfort and raze it instead of occupying
>Fend them off, make peace so I can reorganize my settlements after mass confederating Bretonnia
>Find out I don't have enough money to reoccupy Montfort
>Empire stroll in and take it next turn
>2 turns later, Karak Ziflin (dorfs from the grey mountains) declares war on Empire them raze Montfort
>I stroll in and retake my land
For once, I thank the dwarf for uncucking me

Am I retarded?
Bretonia won't download.
I click the download on the website and it bring sup that retarded "DO YOU HAVE STEAM? YES, PLAY NOW (it would be nice if the fucksticks added a "yes, download now" thing to it)."
So I click it in the launcher and it brings me back to the webpage, I click it IN steam and it doesn't do shit.

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This was a lot more difficult than I thought it would be.

Playing as Vlad in WTW, how much work do I have to do to get Mannfred to confederate with me? I want him as a general but have avoided war with him so far.

>>170788118
Go to the DLC page in Steam and add it there.

>>170788118
the way it worked for me once CA got their shit together w/ the early release

>go into steam
>go to dlc page
>go to brettonia page
>click dl
>opens up TW Launcher
>go in game
>they're there

>>170788278
Nevermind, it worked finally.
I guess my downloader didn't want to start it so I had to actually put it in queue.

Which is still weird because it took 0 seconds to finish and had a size of 0 bytes and now I can access them.
>>170788286
Though this may be what happened as I did all sorts of stuff opening and closing windows, launcher and game.

>>170788393
>Which is still weird because it took 0 seconds to finish and had a size of 0 bytes and now I can access them.

I believe the way it works is that CA only puts it on the dlc page as a marketing practice, to advertise the fact that they put out free content. The actual data probably comes with a patch, and then you go to the dlc page and "dl" it to activate it

>finally unify brettonia, getting ready to go fuck skaeling
>estalia DOWs out of nowhere
>smack a couple of their stacks and sue for peace so i can go back to my crusading
>one turn after signing the peace they send four (4) stacks into carcassonne raiding
update to stop you raiding someone you have a truce with when?

>>170788149
that you won at all is impressive
your army sucks; even the black knights (though lances and barding make them meh instead of the shit that is regular black knights)

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Get off my lawn

>>170787698
Regular orcs

>>170787658
Serious? That's absolutely ridiculous...

>>170788553
>raiding after signing the NAP
Seriously, how the fuck did they not think to count that as a violation. It's the most irritating thing in the world since if you try to deal with them then all of a sudden you're unreliable and everyone everywhere hates you.

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>>170787507
Really hammers ur anvil

Pox or fire arrows for my peasant archers?

Or do I just just keep them with regular arrows? I have 4 peasant archer units in my army and I fucking love them as is, are either a direct upgrade?

>>170789084

Double edged sword. Bait them into declaring war by doing the same thing to them.

>>170788553

>murder a couple of their stacks
>think everything is going to be peachy if you sign a peace treaty with them

Think again frog eater.

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>>170789128
pox arrows are too prone to ff imo, fire arrows are fucking amazing against the vamp cunts and welfs. They get more base damage but lose ap damage compared to regular archers

>>170788549
>I believe the way it works is that CA only puts it on the dlc page as a marketing practice, to advertise the fact that they put out free content.
Yes. A more profitable Warhammer means more content and budget for Warhammer.

>>170789117
Which sword infantry are you using? Are those the ones with low armour/shieldwall or the ones with heavy armour/headhunt?

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Well

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>>170789298
low armor/shieldwall. Shieldwall is fucking great, and allows them to massacre enemy inf thanks to the +10 bonus vs inf it gives

>>170789128
Fire for wutelgi fucking shits and undead, pox for anything not undead. Remember to cycle targets with pox archers so everything gets poisoned and don't fire into your own line as one stray arrow will fuck the whole unit. Don't recall if they're a straight upgrade, probably not.

>>170789143
>ai does it to you
>have to garrison a stack in the province because the player gets big boy public order penalties
>do it too the ai
>still a 10 point PO surplus
i wouldn't care if it gave you some form of casus belli to break the truce desu

>>170788852
Yeah I know, that is just my scrap stack filled with trash units until I can afford to maintain a third decent army. Seeing the empire army walk into my lands and take a tick of attrition I thought that I would be able to easily overcome them. I didn't expect my skellingtons to just melt like they did or for those faggots knights to come back after routing three times.

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>you can see the roman carpet going off into the distance

>>170789373
>that one battle vs huns/chaos that decides the campaign

godspeed to you and your computer anon

>>170789143
Didn't think of that.

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How do I empire? Coming from the dwarves they feel a lot different

>>170789531
It can only end my campaign, they just spawn more doomstacks for free

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>>170789531

>>170789463

>Needing to garrison a force to fend off rebels.

Although I do agree it is bullshit the lengths you have to go to cause a rebellion in enemy territory.

>>170789615
but if you beat them, you cripple those five armies, and they won't get new ones so long as you don't destroy those

>>170760458
Atilla.

The era is cool as fuck and the feeling of struggling against a possible apocalypse is thematically strong and permeates almost every aspect of the design of the game.

>>170773943

SFO ahoy!