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Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Previous Thread:
>>170645954
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TOG When?
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>>170673552
cute lesbians
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left or right
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Poll results: Which leader would enjoy erotic roleplay the most?
260 votes. Wow!
28% Erika
17% Eris
14% Vania
13% Isabelle
10% Forte (27 votes)
10% Arisa (25 votes)
8% Luna

It seems we've had a lot of new people in this thread, because this poll got a lot more votes, and consistently had more voters for a longer time. Because of this, I'm going to try running two polls at once this time, so we can get more done.

New polls:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12501637
http://www.strawpoll.me/12501645
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>>170673679
down the river, not across the stream
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>>170673623
>freshman

is it really a man
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>>170673679
righterino
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Stop playing shadowcraft
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UTE
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I dust every forest and shadow card I get, give me one (1) reason not to
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I want to hold hands with Luna as we take a walk through a quiet park!
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>>170673552
SVG Open Tourney #2:
http://challonge.com/en/SVGOT2
http://challonge.com/en/tournaments/signup/62NerIAvax

Signups are online, details in the description!
If anyone is interested in streaming/commentary just post at me.
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>>170673793
SV where the boys are girls and girls are boys.
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>>170673969
dem fiddlers are powerful
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>>170673973
Give them to me instead.
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why cant all the swordcraft player fuck off back to hs? can they not unga harder there
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>>170673974
I want to start a family with Luna so she can forget about her dead parents!
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>>170673795
http://www.strawpoll.me/12504608
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>>170673793
Even if it's a boy, the skirt makes it a girl.
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Is there any site to log your matches? I remember someone posted here long ago
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>>170673969
this + alberto

what do they even think when they design cards
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>>170673969
L E C I A
E
C
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i want forte to impale with her lance
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>>170674197
>a whopping 3 dmg
wew lad
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>>170673916
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>>170674115
forgot pic.
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>>170674156
shadowlog
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>>170674107
roach's waifu
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>>170673623
this is fucking broken
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>>170674305
It is poor man's Merlin.
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>>170674283
rite aid
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>>170673793
>>170673793
lou is a boys name, its a trap
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>>170674281
12

>>170674305
i dunno if it's even worth it in tempo rune
it's a buff to dshift though
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>>170674283
left PLEASE
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>>170674229
>>170673969
I'm ready to rain down fire on fairies and oglers.
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>>170674305
Not really. Unlike Maid and Albert, you can't play only Daria to guarantee the tutor without making the deck garbage at the same time.
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>>170673702
>It seems we've had a lot of new people in this thread
Different IPs. Duplicate posts, since you keep with it everyday. (You).
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>>170674107
Can't believe this card is only bronze while Fairy Cage is gold. It's basically the Elf version of Albert if you can combo with it.
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>>170674197
>3 damage that won't go face if the enemy has followers on the field
As expected of dumb vampy posters
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>>170674297
Damn, i can't read the moonrunes tho, is there any english version?
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>>170674475
They wanted to give a cheap alternative to roach for new players.
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>>170674283
right

please dont do this to yourself
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>>170673969
leonidas buff
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>>170673916
Fuck, this design hits a lot of my buttons. Figure when ?
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>>170674402
poor boys in that academy, they are forced to wear skirts :3

>>170674507
shadowlog through google translate
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>>170673969
Welp, guess this kills the control decks. rip in pepperoni
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>>170674282
Is there an SV card that's been more cucked than Fafnir?
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>>170674467
I post these polls everyday because they're fun. Are you seriously implying I'm baiting you? Lol.
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>>170673969
my friendship wtih seraph ended now support cannon it's my new friend
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>>170674020
Nice way to create more self-promote circlejerk and thread celebs. Let's wait and see, I might be wrong this time. Tho unlikely.
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Support Cannon into Alex will be so cool.
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>>170674375
>>170674420
>>170674526
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>>170673969
Is this even going to be playable?
At 5 cost it seems too expensive.
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>>170674590
How exactly?
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>>170674606
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>spend 10k vials on a forest deck
>realize that i hate forestcraft
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Is commander-only deck feasible now? Does it have enough low cost followers?
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>>170674418
Using it in Tempo seems pretty risky since if you keep Dorothy in mulligan and play her it just ups the chance of bricking, but it could also help you draw something if you have nothing. Playable in DS but any followers besides the usual bunch is something you have to think about.
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>>170674663
that's why he makes that sad face
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>>170674648
left
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>>170674656
I think this is a good CSword material tho
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>>170674663
Nah, Fighter was always trash. Fafnir was a decent Ramp card pre-RoB at least.
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>>170674697
At the very least you'll play 2 and 3 drops plus Gawain as your officers. Rest can be all Commander if you do it smartly.
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>>170673916
fucking neutral ramp man
>>170674668
>not saving up for next expansion
ONE JOB ANON
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>>170674608
I am implying people vote multiple times each day, or within 3 days. Because it's easy and mememistic aka fun.
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>>170673969
It's a fucking knife juggler on steroids.
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>>170674697

There is Gawain, and Luminous Mage should be 2 damage for two times.
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People want more removal even though this card exists and its shit
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>>170674663
why does japan often use 'fighter' as a class? not warrior, soldier, swordsman or barbarian but fighter? only other place ive seen that used is dnd
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>>170674697
I mean, you could, but I don't think many of the low cost commanders are very good without officers
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>>170673969
This somehow reminds me to an Heartstone card, forget the name tho
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>>170674779
Last draft, also vote on this
http://www.strawpoll.me/12504608
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Fuck evolves.
Evolves are the core of all this game's problems more than anything else. Evolve was a cool and actually somewhat skill-testing mechanic at first but they have printed way too many fucking cards that get crazy benefits from it. Evolve is why you can't keep anything alive unless you're really far ahead, or why bursting people down is so much easier than it should be, or what really puts storm followers over the edge. And while it use to have a lot of decision making to it besides the 4-drop evolve cards, nowadays there's barely any thought behind evolving.
They did a god-awful job at designing around their own central mechanic.
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>>170674785
I don't know what control sword would cut out for that.
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>>170674697
Doubt it. A commander-heavy deck could be viable, but you need at least stuffl ike like Lancer and Gawain.
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>>170674648
right
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New Sahaquiel target. Basically a salamander effect but also the option to hard cast for 4 health.
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>>170674886
>only other place ive seen that used is dnd
Congrats you've solved the mystery
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>>170674656
It's a turn 5 do nothing but makes your turn 8+ do nothings into do somethings. Seems like it can be good against control decks but this is really a card that needs to be played to see how it really works out. It makes Alexander useful though since you can basically clear the whole board with him and he can actually do face damage in a roundabout way.
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>>170675010
Why are people still asking for Dragon legos? They got Zeus and this. That's 2 Dragon legos.
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>>170672248
>>170672727
The best way to counter aggro is to pot at least 2 angelic snipes and kaleidos, also 3 magic missiles. Depending on the situation you may want to use iceform as a tech but it weakens your hand in general so it's hard choice, still can buy you 1 turn if opponent doesn't have a dod (aggro always does). Remove demonic strikes entirely, they cost too much, it's better to get 1 more angelic snipe if you really want more dmg. On the other hand having 2 dods is fine and necessary. Also if you want to use fate's hand you need more cheap cost spells but fate's hand can be tricky and the cost is high. Also always have x3 blade mages, they help in offense and in defense, you can't remove them for useless demonic strikes. If you want a lot of dmg you should use angelic snipes, dods, demonic strikes, blade mages. All of that but such a deck makes your draws horrible in the long run.

If build in the right way daria have good chances against aggro but she's still not a counter.
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>>170674919
k
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>>170674916
by poseidon's beard, go right
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>>170675098
>iceform as a tech but it weakens your hand in general
it's a spell which spellboosts your other cards though

i personally like it over kaleido much more
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>>170674916
left
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>>170675010
Was posted top of thread and better resolution too
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90149
need concede pls
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>>170675083
>dragon legos are so bad, all the good legos in their decks are neutral
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>>170675165
Kaleido is better overall since it replaces itself
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>>170674916
stream when?
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>>170673792
Useless garbage.
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>>170675232

Hey, look. It's beast's black sheep sister.
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>>170675083
zeus is shit
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>>170675232
Honestly, I think I'd rather use iceblade warfiend or alucard but we'll see.
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>>170675232
>Storm
I know it's a Blood card and it's worse than Alucard probably, but can they fucking stop?
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>>170675245
but it's useless later when they play 3+ pp followers
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>>170674912
Ship's Cannon
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>>170675429
My wife Deadmoon Disciple is so cute
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>>170675357
more fishes for dragon?
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My 1/1 cannot be this cute.
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>>170675429
>ward gets even more useless at stopping face damage
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>>170675429
Too bad that you don't even play this game.
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>>170675357
>dragoncraft synergy
delete this
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>still no reveal of any forest legos
come on cygames, I want to know if I can craft that last albert or if there will be forest memes worth spending vials on
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>>170675465
Immunecraft is going to not be a meme anymore
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>>170675485
>>170675429
this shit is gonna be broken as fuck
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>>170675357
>nereid with 2 legs

dropped
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>>170675357
more like aqua NERD
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>>170675518
>Forest lego
It's probably going to be 2 good legos, given it's forest.
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>>170675358
Better than genesis dragon. Zeus serves the same purpose, but has way more flexibility and synergizes with shaq.
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>>170675232
not impressed
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>>170675357
MEGALORCA LEGENDARY
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
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Evolves are the root of this games issues, prove me wrong
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>>170675429
>>170675473
Anon is right. This is how we detect people who doesn't play the game but post in the general after some major update.
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I CAN'T HANDLE ALL THESE DOMINATORS

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME
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I can't wait for none of these cool new cards to matter because sword will still run over everything
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>>170675628
>Finally a good legendary for dragon
>oh wait
>ITS A FUCKING FISH
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>>170675232
Thank god I usually have around 4 ambling wraiths sitting on the board when turn 7 hits
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>>170675485
>>170675429
Just the card I needed for my Deathly Tyrant + Atomeme deck
1 cost Atomeme fodder that also works as Ethereal
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>>170675232
Should be sword card desu.
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>>170675581
>dragoncraft has a nerd and a dork
p o t t e r y
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>>170675429
I guess Gobby is getting dropped from aggro?
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>>170675751
this
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>>170675654
There's nothing to prove. They did not do a good job at designing around evolve.
If we really want to get technical, the root of this game's issues is not having instants, letting burst damage and combos run amok and turn the game into more of a draw RNG battle than anything else.
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>>170675672
?
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>>170675429
bow to your new deadly tyrant overlords that no ward can stop.
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>>170675247
now
/jaypi12
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>>170675232
A little more versatile than Alucard since it's more meaty and can take hits for removal. She gets stronger the longer she's out similar to Shadow Reaper too. If you pull Temptress with Baphomet and then use Soul Dominator it's a pretty good sequence though. Another thing to use in a potential midrange deck too I guess.
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>>170675751
>Commander
>Storm
>Gain +1/0 for every allied Officer destroyed.
Watch it be the other sword lego.
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>>170675840
I'm gonna enjoy cucking Khawy.
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>>170675840
>New deadly tyrant overlords that no ward can stop
Wards already couldn't stop it, ethereal guidance was a common card in those decks
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>>170675858
unlike shadow reaper she doesn't stick more than 1 turn
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>>170675672
That shit is ironic. However, mods think it's fine and not shitposting. My advice is to not bother with it.
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I want to use this cutie.
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>>170675784
she already did
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>>170675841
haha, time for kuyashii
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wow so exciting literally all shit we've known for days woow wheres the fucking forest and dragon shit?
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>>170675976
kill yourself my man
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>>170674623
Jeez, blame me when it happens. There's a reason i just call myself TO.

>>170674020
Forgot my trip.
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>>170675943
Play DShift.
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>>170675896
>every allied Officer destroyed.

That's fucking shit. But seriously, we need 7pp commander with storm so it synergize with Gawain.
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>>170675958
I meant the 1 drop Goblin.
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>>170675165
>it's a spell which spellboosts your other cards though
I spent like half of my games with iceform and now i don't use it. Mainly because of overpopular "midrange" sword with tsubaki which love your ice golems. It was fine using against otk roach but not now.
Also if you don't run 2 kaleidos then your deck's weak. You need a lot of draws and cheap removals, kaleido magically combines both. Daria deck without a lot of draws is trash. You'll realize it sooner or later.
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>>170675943
Just play dshift
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>>170675831
Nice cover. Didn't know.l you liked so much to cover up other people ass.
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>>170675507
>>170675672
what?
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>>170675858
>>170675936

She also needs the board to have more than 1 follower prior to her dropping down in order for her effect to significantly matter.

Reaper can be dropped alongside other followers.
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>>170676009
pointless post
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>>170675940
hint, posting a pic of a game character with the word cute isn't forbidden

whining about it and discussing the moderation on the other hand violates the rules

so you and that guy could deserve a couple of days ban each if the mods wanted
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>>170676057
1/2 body is still pretty strong
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>>170675357
Can we call her Aqua Nerd from now on?
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>>170676038
If they add more fucking storm for Swordcraft I am seriously quitting this game for good
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OFFICIAL CLASS TIER LIST: POST ToG EDITION

Top Tier:
Sword
Shadow

Okay Tier:
Forest
Rune

Dumpster Tier:
Haven
Blood

Literally a Fucking Egg Tier:
Dragon
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>>170676057

Goblin is still a better card just for the t1 play even if he's useless after evo wars start.

Besides, 1 follower needing to bypass wards is situational.
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>>170676072
ice golem dies to dod which also damages your face

being scared of tsubaki over dod sounds as a meme

roach btw could remove it not only with dod but also with wotf/pixie/homecoming
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Reminder that Eggs is going to be extremely powerful and everyone will complain about it a month into TOG
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>>170676280
praise
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>>170676224
>forest
>okay tier
>currently least played class in the game
Yeah sure so strong.
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>>170676101
Previous threads m8
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>>170676280
A 1 mana cycle that heals 2 is pretty nice but I don't think it's anything to call extremely powerful, especially since you have to wait a turn to get your benefits if you just drew it
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>>170675465
>turn 5 aria pop
>summon this, give tiger target immunity
>summon healing angel/rabbit
>elana trigger
>evo tiger

I can feel it. I'm gonna stomp everyone with my Elana Aegis. Especially shadowshitters who think they gonna be "tier 1".
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>>170673969
I can't help but get the mental image of Amelia being loaded into a cannon and getting shot at some random follower.
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>>170675931
Did not even know it existed but I haven't meet a lot of tyrant decks. At least this gives the ability at 10 pp get tyrant + midnight haunt + deadmoon at same turn.
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>>170676280
Eggs was exactly what ramp dragon needs for their turn 1 play and to fit in any spare turn. It's gonna be great.
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>>170675841
MADMAN
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>>170675936
If they have to trade into a 4+/x or use removal than I'd be fine with that since it saves another turn if you're playing control. Leaving her alone can be annoying if you don't have lethal since you can heal and remove a bunch of different ways, just making her stronger. For the few people that use one Alucard in aggro decks too she might be more useful since she's hard to remove like Imp Lancer.
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>>170676237

Dead moon allows you to still punch that guy behind a temple defender or soccermom with a 2/2. Yes, 1PP 1/1 is awful most of the time, but I think you are selling her too low.
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>>170676127
Oh, look how cute you are Discord-chan.
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>>170676364
I'm loving this woe is me faggotry from knife ears now that they lost tier 1 status for the first time since the creation of this game. Keep it up lads.
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>>170675943
play dirt
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>>170675429
>1pp ethereal form in follower form
Power creep
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neutral ramp is gonna be so fucking cancerous next expansion when all their fucking shit heals

im not ready!
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>>170676224
>shadow
>top tier
>when elana haven finally have a good wincon

Delusional.
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>>170676673
That list looks kinky
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Haven needs an ice block effect y/n
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>>170676436
And now I can't help but the the mental image of Gelt firing the cannon shouting "YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH AMELIA".
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>>170676676
>t9 heal 4
>haven has t7 heal 5
wtf i love ramp now?
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>>170674197
>Vampytard can't read

pottery
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>>170673969
If you play a 5 attack commander and the enemy only has one minion with 1 hp remaining, will the damage be distributed to the minion first, then to deal face or will the 5 damage deal exclusively to the minion?
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>>170676801
Blood does.
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>>170676801
No.
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>all ninja cards are officers
Sword lego commander Hattori Hanzo who will usher in a new age of Ambush Sword meta cancer when?
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>>170676676
People are memeing about dragon only getting eggs but Israfil and Saha combo pretty much can carry the deck. It's a stronger boardwipe than themis on t6 most of the time.
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>>170676850
When is blood getting a timeless witch
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>>170676838
The follower takes the single packet of damage and is overkilled, the face is safe.
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Well that was a nice game of Shadowverse. I can see why people complained about Elana now.
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>>170676982
>otk roach player
>"fun and interactive"
Do you just not have any self awareness whatsoever?
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>>170676982
>playing the shittiest class in the game, even worse than fucking dragon
you only got yourself to blame
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>>170676850
What blood needs is an amulet that makes it so they can't take more than 2 or 3 damage from a follower while in Vengeance.
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>>170675083
Zues is not good enough for neutral ramp.
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>>170676409
It's powerful because help Dragon get to overflow safety.

>>170676280
There's Dire Bond and people didn't complained about it so much.
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>>170677078
Is forest sucks the hot new /svg/ meme?
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Play JO Dragon
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>>170676982
>Roach
>Have the right to complain about anything
>Ever
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>>170676982
kys roachshitter
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>>170676982
get chemoed roach cancer
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>>170676982
just otk him bro
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>>170677115
People would lose their shit over a card like that. Hell, this general almost burst into flames when they realized they couldn't puke officers and fairies onto the board when this was in play.
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>>170677176
>help Dragon get to overflow safety.
No it doesn't, the card has no effect until you reach overflow, you mouthbreather.
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>>170677202
I wish I was here when they revealed dragonclaw pendant
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>>170674826
It's closer to Ship's Cannon, and that shit is tamer than Knife Juggler because you need to play a specific kind of minion rather than just spamming tokens.
Also this card does not hit face, so you can control the RNG.
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>>170677202
post more rowen memes
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>>170677176
>It's powerful because help Dragon get to overflow safety.
It only triggers once and only when Dragon hits overflow.
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>>170675628
>Megalorca lego
Y-YAMERO!!
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>>170676982
The only reason Elana is "bad" now because it got destroyed by Bahamut and Elana Seraph is too slow against Daria/Sword. It's going to be T1 again because Aegis doesn't give a fuck about Bahamut and destroy other control deck. Current Elana deck already stomps midrange and it will stomp control deck because of Aegis. Only combo deck probably can win against them when ToG is out.
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>>170677349

It starts hitting face when your opponent has no more cannon fodder.
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>>170677305
>>170677115
Blood isn't allowed to get good cards, ever.

t.Swordshitter
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>>170675628
HEAR THE ORCAS DROWN
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>>170675429
w-why it's not a blood card ><

>>170676571
*blush*

>>170677340
this pic is from much later though, the meme appeared a couple of weeks after the actual release
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>>170677349
>Also this card does not hit face, so you can control the RNG.

When the opposing side has no followers in play, any commanders that come into play will hit face.
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>>170677332
That's why, idiot. Drop some orb bitches then get ready to heal while you can focus on other stuff.
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oh yeah because dragon keeps plenty of followers on board right? HAHA XD
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>>170677448
>cannon fodder
Heh
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>>170677532
Why did you post a picture of 200 vials?
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>>170676270
>ice golem dies to dod which also damages your face
Yes, everything dies to dod but most of the time your opponent doesn't expect iceform and uses dod on daria or some big evolved followers. Also it's almost 100% safe to use iceform after dod. Still there are not infinite amounts of dods in your opponents hands, just like odins doesn't always counter seraph because you can't draw them.
>being scared of tsubaki over dod sounds as a meme
Dod is always a problem but there's no way to solve it, sometimes you have to take the risk of dod, themis, revelation, calamitous, foul tempes, salamander breath, etc as daria. And not just sometimes, you can't avoid those risks. Just imagine that almost every sword deck now have 6 dods, then what's the point of golem? The card itself could be much more viable just by reducing atk to 4 or making it last infinite amount of turns after evolve.
>roach btw could remove it not only with dod but also with wotf/pixie/homecoming
Man, i was talking about otk roach meta where iceform was viable. Cards like wolf or homecoming were practically non existent at the time.
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Dragon Legendary Follower
Gigalorca, 10PP
6/6
Ward.
Fanfare: Discard your hand and replace the cards with Megalorcas that cost 0.
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>>170677448
>>170677506
Exactly, so the will be no game deciding 50:50 moment when you want it to kill some shit but it hit face instead, or when you steal lethal out of fucking nowhere. That's what I mean by "can't hit face".
Imagine you have this trash on board and enemy Haven play Aegis. Eternally cucked.
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>>170677502
>w-why it's not a blood card
blood are not allowed to have nice things.
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>>170677532
I will make for meme purposes and the other that gives storm to a follower
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>>170677658
>Gigalorca
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>>170677532
It's all followers, not just allied.
Watch, the new Dragon deck will be some kind of fishy based board spam, kind of like how Rune got Daria this expansion.
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>>170677525
Then it does nothing to "help get to Overflow safely", more like it helps your wounded body get slightly better after reaching it.
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>>170676814
I wish I was good at drawing to make this a reality.
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>>170677649
wolf and wotf are two completely different cards and wotf (will of the forest) was the most common otk removal

>>170677728
mother orca
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>>170677658
Please no
I don't want to discard any more salamanders
I need them
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>>170675429
>more 1 drops for shadow
FUCK YEAH.
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>>170677532
At least she's cute.
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>>170677838
aggro shadow is fine with only ~6 1pp drops like any aggro, really
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>>170677532
>10/5 6pp storm card
cygames and their powercreep I swear
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>/svg/ says tempo rune isn't like dshift, you're not supposed to hard mull for daria
>decide to start hard mulling for daria
>winning games like crazy
cunning plan by /svg/ to prevent cancer, but I've caught on to your tricks
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0-1 at the moment, 0-2 soon.
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>>170677532
>reading comprehension
>>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
I'm so mad. Every deck I go against is the perfect counter to mine.I lost 3000 point in 3 day.
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>>170677532
She's basically 3/5 minimum at that point of the game which is on par with imp lancer and moon bun. She has enough hp to be used to trade while having the added bonus of being able to hit face, it's a solid card.
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>>170677918
Delete this.
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>>170673552
I want to impregnate grea
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>>170677910
I'm definitely replacing my skeleton fighters for that cutie
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>>170675429
oh, who's this cute boy?
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>>170677735
True, my bad.
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>>170677910
With this thing 12 1pp drops. Well, maybe not 12 but 1 or 2 copy of this sweety is included.
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>>170677532
The way I see it is this card give Dragon a tech choice against unga garbage.
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>>170675465
>guardian sun and mist shaman on moon
I can taste the aggro tears already
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>>170677910
>atomy
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>>170678114
i personally run only goblins and skull beasts
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>>170678109
It's all good. Sorry for being aggressive earlier.
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>>170677918
I hard mulligan if I go first. Going second is different though.
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>>170677954
how do you have no cards on turn two?
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>>170677954
managed to beat sword
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>switch to japanese voices
>VAMPY CHAN HAS AUTISM CHAN DESU NE CHAN :-D
>NIGGER NIGGER GOBU(?) Dx
>TEEHEE SUGOI SUGOI : 3
>G-GAMBARIMASU >W<

God this shit is cancer
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>>170677918
depends on the matchup, but you dont want to hard mull if you have card draw or a decent hand.
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>>170675594
For decks that want to play Gen Drag, the 7 attack is better. Neutral ramp wont play him either. MAYBE control sword, but probably not.
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>>170678078
apparently it's this >>170675473 guy's wife
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>>170676280
>turn 5 Monastic Holy Water
>anything to complain about ever
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>>170678267
Guess the player went full Lantham and mouth-breathed out of his way to defeat.
>>
Whats the spiciest meme deck I can play that actually has a >1% winrate?
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>Last three games have been Daria
I thought they nerfed this deck and now no one plays it?
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>>170677791
>wolf and wotf are two completely different cards
Ah, my bad, i misread. The point of golem is to survive one turn or prevent some dmg, will of the forest may kill it but it prevents roaching to lethal combo for 1 turn.
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>>170678362
DELET THIS
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>>170678351
Csword will never play it because Albert is miles better. Neutral Ramp will play Zeus since he's Saha target and will protect you after attacking face unlike Genesis.
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>>170678414
I don't play Darkia anymore.
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>>170678414
>nerfed
>still have sub50 win rate
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Reminder that Nepnep hasn't gotten a single new card in this expansion so far.
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>>170678548
good, that deck is cancer and will still probably prey on the other control decks again anyway.
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>>170678548
It's fine.
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>>170678414
>shaman gets nerfed
>shaman playrate tanks for a week as people finally take the chance to experiment with other decks
>shaman playrate returns to normal as all the tryhards realize there's no substitute for the most broken deck in the game
enjoy shadowverse
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https://my.mixtape.moe/gaoupr.webm

The cucking of Latham.
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>>170678282
>hating gobu
>hating uniko
off yourself faggot
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Does SV rig the RNG when you're hoarding gold? I haven't received a single lego since I started hoarding gold with the GB event when I was 2000~ and now I'm up t 4995 but I stil haven't got shit in a while. Bear in mind I've opened dozens of packs from score rewards and missions. This had never happened before and it's almost making me wanna blow some of it before the expansion hits.

I just can't take it anymore. I've only received a single gold from the 5 free RoB packs we've got so far and I've seen people get multiple legos just from the initial 4. Should I just kill myself?
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>>170678548

>what is thane?

What? You don't want a 2 5/5s and a 4/5 bane ward board?
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>>170678267
lost to swordcraft
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>>170678492
Neutral ramp doesnt run Gen Dragon. Many dont even run Forte. What do you cut for Zues then? Bahamut? Odin? Lucifer? He won't see play. A 10 mana taunt is terrible and killing one minion with Sahaquiel is also terrible.
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>>170678548
Maybe next one, I will never stop believing in Nepnep!
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>>170678767
I had 2k when I got the 4 packs yesterday and pulled 2 legend and 5 gold my man
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>>170675713
>whales
>fish
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>>170678809
inshallah the meta will shift in such a way that moving away from 3 bahamut 3 odin is viable
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>>170678786
it fucks with khawy slot
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>>170678282
https://clyp.it/lfshvocx
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t2
dragon or haven
first reply decides
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>When the opponent has 3 Khawy's in Take Two
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>>170678902
never under estimate my autism anon
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>>170678959
dragon
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>>170678959
Haven
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>>170677918
You can just as easily win matches playing as Aggro with overwhelming field presence and a bunch of burn.
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>>170678943
Yamero this ear rape at once. Onegaishimasu anon sama desu.
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>>170678717
>otohime
Nothing to watch here.
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>>170678786
you want nep to summon khawy and mordecai every time, you can't play any other 7 or 8 drops.

they're purposefully pushing good cards in those slots for a reason.
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>>170678767
fucking this

i've opened about 30 fucking free standard packs with no lego and so far i've gotten jack fucking shit from the 5 free rob packs

i better cash in big time once ToG hits or im gonna fucking lose it
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>>170678767
I started getting legos when I stopped spending gold, 5 free packs gave me 1 saha 1 eidolon and have had way over 1 lego per 9 packs from free packs. 6,7k rupies currently.
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>>170678903
>>170678809

havencraft will be kill next expansion so you can probably should drop odin, it bricks your hand a lot
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>>170678903
Who the fuck runs 3 odins
Isn't 2 like max?
He's worthless against all this aggro fuckery and you lose to nep anyway
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>>170679117

t. Seraph player
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>>170678805
no one cares
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>>170679128
>Who the fuck runs 3 odins
control decks that don't like to autolose to nep
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>>170679014
>Aggro with overwhelming field presence and a bunch of burn.
I started hard mulling because I noticed I'd often run out of burn unless I drew a daria somewhere along the line
I mean maybe if you're an MLG veteran savant rune player you're better at pushing lethal and can manage anyway, but I wouldn't know anything about that
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>>170678282
You're cancer, dubcuck.
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>>170677998
>Dragon already has a good storm follower in the same PP bracket so they butt heads
>3/5 is worse than imp lancer and imp lancer is mediocre at best and is only played because blood has nothing better
>infinitely worse than a standard sword card like Alwida which lets you storm while at the same time protecting yourself, something dragon actually needed

Should've been 5 PP, or had +1/+1 base, or had ward. Literally anything that doesn't relegate it to being on average worse than an imp lancer.

Fuck cygames.

>>170678125
>implying dragon is going to outrace other unga decks
It's a storm minion, which means it's suited for an aggressive dragon deck, yet it's effect is only useful versus other aggressive decks. If your intent was to play aggressively and outrace your opponent, then you have Forte which has base 4 more damage. I don't understand what the intent of this card is, unless their intent was to print more mediocre dragon cards.
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>yess goy drop the odins it bricks your hand 120%% of the time!

i wonder who could be behind this post
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>>170679117
>havencraft
>killed

AEGIS
E
G
I
S
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>there are those dissing sylvie the card

Literally daughteru material. Fuck your taste.
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>>170679076
>tfw you spend all your gold on 30+ packs and get nothing while a 500 gold fag cashes in to receive 3+
I'm already prepared to fail so I've bought some crystals to make up for god hating me. My backup is 6000 gold. If I'm lucky, a stupid worthless sack of shit like myself might get a legendary or two, maybe scrap enough dust for another couple ones while other anons pull an entire set of the expansion's Albert/Daria/Baha in 20 packs or less(with some animated).
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>>170678548
Wait for the kamura-tier silvers bro. There's a reason why 3 of them are blanks so far
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>>170678987
i got some really good picks: olivia, lucifer, sieg, bunch of ward cards etc. no forte though
thanks dude
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>>170679286
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>>170679117
Odin will always be meta as long as they keep printing overpowered last words and countdown amulets.
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>>170678548
Little Soulsquasher is more 2PP removal. And there are still 6 more shadow cards to be revealed.
>>
Newb anon from the previous thread. Well so far the game looks pretty tight. Plays pretty fluidly.

I couldn't get Nox to run the game so I'm playing on my tablet for now. I don't need to root it to delete the files if I want to reroll, right?
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>>170678809
This
Saha is only good if you can kill 1 big guy with a baha or get luci


I really don't know how Israfil is going to fit into that deck

3*saha
3*luci
2*israfil
2*odin
2*baha

ANd the package is already full

That's 12 lategame drops
A quarter of your deck
You can't afford running more than that or you just brick way too often against aggro
There is no room for forte or zeus
Maybe you can run a satan with that but I dunno
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>>170678916
unlike kawaii it gives you an actual active ward on a nep's drop though, a necromancy empowered 0pp wight king (using nep will give you 4 shadows by itself even if you had 0)

so the board will look like that - nep, mordecai, wight, wight, empowered wight king (a 4/5 ward with bane)

if anything some people can consider that it's khawy takes immortal thane's place
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>>170678717
>plays maid
>plays cyclone
>then evolves maid

This is D rank right?
>>
Why do aggro players always BM so much?
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>>170679435
nah

just uninstall everytime you want to reroll
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>>170679537
AA
I think he may have been drunk.
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>>170679435
just delete the app settings, no need to uninstall anything

link it to steam after you are done with re-rolling
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>Dropping removal for 10 mana taunts
So many retards playing Rowen no wonder we're a mess
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>>170679517
DELET THIS

got it from pixiv?
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>>170679410
Not if a lot of them are immune to it like Aegis
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>>170679435
Just clear the app's data.
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>>170679435
>>170679570
>uninstall
You just need to "clear data" on android
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>>170679739
Read the filename.
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>>170679517
Stinky butt
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>>170679517

You get no wights from a Nep play.
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>>170679273
>I mean maybe if you're an MLG veteran savant rune player you're better at pushing lethal
Nigga what? You just fucking overwhelm them with Oglers, Blade Mages and SUGOI MAHOU early and there isn't anything they can do about it.
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>>170679783

Sweet. Thanks
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>1000 points to Master

Can I do it?
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>>170679739
huh, i don't recall, probably

anyway, perseus when?

>>170679869
it doesn't activate fanfares? well at least you get the wight king
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>>170679627
>doesn't evolve Albert for 10 damage when give the chance, wastes it to kill a 2/2 with Leo
>drops enhanced Albert on the board as his only minion when tribunal was going to pop

No he was legitimately terrible. Then again I guess you don't have to be good to get to AA with sword.
>>
went 1-4
thanks for the deck, had a good time
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>>170679975

I managed to go to Master from AA2 when everyone else is competitive for the Olivia freebies. You can do it, anon.
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>>170679975
If you got this far, of course. Just don't get /tilted/
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Blessed be the free packs. Now I have a full set.
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>>170680048
cheers, anon.
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>>170673969
>turn 4 Gawain
>turn 5 this
>turn 6 Frontguard
>turn 7 Walfrid
>turn 8 Leo

Hell, just Monika would work for every turn you had evolves left and she'd become one of the hardest board swings in the game. Do 5 to random enemy, hit another for 2, then smash Monika on whatever's left while getting two bodies on board.
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>play Nep
>random 2pp
>balor
>thane
>morde
>there will be those that complain about this pull being bad

Really. Your faith in your goddess is lacking, fellow shadow anon.
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>>170680048
Got anymore tickets?
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>>170680216
>that instead of Luminous Mage
Lmao@your life
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>>170680353
No, and I´m planning to save a little gold for now, why do you ask?
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>>170680216
The main problem is that his costs 5pp. Even if it turns all of your commanders into big tempo swings, it's pretty much suicide against aggro, especially because turn 5 is when they are looking to finish the game.
We need to see this in action before judging how good it actually is.
>>
Need a concede for daily
32915
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>>170680216

Monika will just proc a 4 damage cannon though. Not a bad thing, mind you, but Luminous Mage allows two shots.
>>
I would like them to make more 1-3 drop legendaries
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>>170680523
>Not a bad thing, mind you, but Luminous Mage allows two shots.
But it's still the same amount of targets hit if you take evolving into consideration. Monika will be doing 4 + 2 (or more) + 5 damage, however, while Luminous will be doing 2 + 2 + 4.
Luminous is still probably better because it doesn't cost you an evolve point though.
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>tfw bought a pack to cheer me up after the 1-4 and this happened
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do you still run goblin mage in your aggro blood?
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Anyone have that colorblinded image with Lucifer and Albert showing how sameface the artist is?
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Jesus Christ I just finished the tutorial and got 30 packs.... 10 tickets for each set. This is a fuckload of cards.
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>>170675276

Sammy is much worse for spell rune.

Draws randomly AND gives your opponent a card.

This one gives you a spellboost, much less RNG and no benefit to your opponent. It is literally the maid servant of rune
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>>170680569
Whats the lowest drop leggo?
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>>170680858
I use Angel of the Word now
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>>170681004
>AND gives your opponent a card

the main reason why she is not used
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>>170681009
Flute and Milf Elf at 3pp
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>>170674402
>>170674402
>>170673793
>>170674137
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>>170681000
Post results so we can tell you to reroll
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>>170680962
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>>170674197

Unga bat players everybody
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>1 win away from completing my dailies
>4 game lose streak
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
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>>170681009
Spellboosted Daria :~)
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>>170681009
3pp, it's ancient elf

there is a reason why they don't want to release cheap leggos and why everybody who wants it is a retard
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>>170681150
Luci left, Albert right?
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>>170681150
Thanks!
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>>170681171
I fucking hate Forest dailies. At least with Blood you can just unga.
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>>170681196
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>>170680523
> Luminous Mage allows two shots
Does it ? Doesn't the wording not using "comes into play" but "is played" mean that it's only from hand ?
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>>170681292
y
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WHY I GOT THE URGE TO IMPREGNATE GREA VIA THE POWER OF THE JO CRYSTAL UGH
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>>170679975
as long as you don't tilt and rage swap to random decks you should be fine. what are you climbing with?
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>>170681346
>win 4 games with Forest OR Haven
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>>170681378
Post the japanese description
That usually clears it up
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>>170681119
Should I just post the gold and rainbow rarity ones? I have no idea what I'm doing. The animated ones are pretty neat though.
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>>170681292
Yes. Looking at it now though, there are some differences. Albert's eyes are more rounded, and Lucifer's hair looks slightly messier. Though you could argue the artist only went out of his way to include those differences because they're in the same picture together.
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I build a face dragon and tyrant shadow deck as my first ones, what should I build next?
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>>170674857
>shitty gold is still better than regular BDominator
Hold me bloodbros
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>>170681456
I can't smack the reroll button hard enough.
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>>170681484
Just post the legendary ones
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>>170675524

IS ERIS IN THE NEWEST SV CHANNERUUU?
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>>170681529
Conjuring Force Snowman
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>>170681389
Can lesbians even be impregnated? How do you do it?
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I hope forest gets an actual board clear
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>>170681543
>tfw you just run seraph for haven dailies and concede until you run into shadow
It's not as quickly done as sword but it works
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What voicelines from the story should Shade Eris have? (English only because working with the game's audio is a pain the ass, and I don't want to make a separate version for Japanese.)

What I have so far:
Intro: Liberation is at hand
Pain: Ah
Evolve line 1: The moment of liberation is at hand
Evolve line 2: Allow me to set you free
Defeat: Defeat me, but nothing will change

What I need:
Greeting: Note that Shade Eris says "........" when you greet her in Erika Ch. 9. So maybe nothing?
Thank you:
Praise:
Shock:
Unsure:
Taunt:
Concede:
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>>170681592
you missed out friend
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>>170681714
b-but maahes
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>>170681714
Fuck off, you treecoons have enough shit.
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>>170681751
I would honestly pay crystals for this skin.
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>>170681717
>it's aggro shadow with perfect curve
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>>170681660
Lesbians can still have sex with men and take sperm into their wombs you know
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>>170681395
Homebrew Midrange Blood.

I'm taking this last stretch slow. The tilt could come for me any moment, but I must believe...
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>>170681848
Thank god that never happens
It's only those emote spamming vania fags that have the perfect curve
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>>170681714
WotF is the most broken shit ever. FUCK OFF KNIFE EARS.
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>>170681529
Discard dragon, really the thinking man choice
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>>170681459
>自分の場に指揮官・フォロワーが出るたび
Need someone more versed to confirm how that compares to "comes into play" and "is played" on other JP cards
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>>170681660
by the sheer force of will, i forbid you, oh my ovum, to be fertilized!
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What's the general idea behind control blood and which cards are vital for it?
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>>170681959
>WotF
>Broken
How do you even arrive at that conclusion
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>>170673969
AND NOW ILL PLACE MY ALBERT ONTO MY CATAPULT TURTLE
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>>170681571
>2x Eidolon of Madness
>Alexander
>Odin (animated)

Reroll?
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>>170681967
It's written the same way Yurius' effect is written.
It doesn't need to be played from your hand to trigger.
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>>170682041
stall the game and hope your opponent runs out of resources before you do and then concede because lol no win con
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>>170682041
You kill yourself so your opponent can rank up faster
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>>170682030
>forbid
ESL person, that word means the opposite of what you're trying to do here.
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>>170681967
Yea, said nothing about follower must be played from hand. Luminous Mage will proc 2 shots.
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>>170681751

gonna watch it right now
finally
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>>170681967
>>170682114

The closest example I can give is Athurian's Light. Any knight summoned will get Storm.
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also who is that cute green guy at the lower right corner of anne's art and if we will get his card in the future

>>170682112
yes

>>170682130
do you mean she wanna get pregnant? owo
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>>170682114
Okay, thanks for the clarification
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>>170682062
>undercosted board wipe that fucks up everything that's not daria
Just kys treehugger
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>>170682112
unless you really love bad memes, yes
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>>170682041
There is no general idea for it
That's kinda the problem of cblood
They all run the removal
Some run the righteus devil

Some try to meme with laura commander
Some try to meme with bloody mary

Try out what you like

>>170682112
Eidolon is worthless
Alexander isn't that bad, but powercreeped by cyclone blade
Odin is staple in all control decks

I would reroll
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>>170682194
>>170682238
>>170682254

reroll it is
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>>170682041
Survive the game via heals and outresource your opponent via board wipes

your wincon is satan or the surrender once you starved their deck

its expensive as fuck trough, mine got 10 legendary

3 queen,3 odin,3 bahamut,1 satan
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>>170682112
Definite reroll.

Though before you go on a spree, take a trip through the first few chapters of each story mode to see if any class meshes well with you.

The classes are extremely different in this game so knowing which one you're inevitably going to netdeck first before building up a supply a cards to build other decks is useful.
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>>170682302
>your wincon is satan or the surrender once you starved their deck
also bahamut and a few decks run storm followers like alucard and even imp lancer too
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>>170682204
>Undercosted board wipe that fucks up everything
Except it doesn't? It deals 8 damage max. It can't even clean up floral fencer.
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>7k from master
>ladder anxiety sets in
what do
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>>170682472
Take a break
Play a few fun decks in unranked
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>>170682472

If you want masters, play

If you dont, dont play.

But did you seriously grind to T-minus 7k from masters just to do nothing?
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>>170682469

>5+2+1
>it can't even clean up floral fencer

A proof that forestfuckers are uncultured shitters who cannot math.
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>>170682469
Except it can? Floral provides 5+2+1=exactly 8 hp, and usually she has to trade into something so you can probably clear up even more. Roachfuckers not even once.
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themis should be 5 cost
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>>170682296
If you're rerolling I would suggest doing it on an emulator so you can automate the entire process. There are some like Nox that make scripting braindead easy so you can just do it once and let it run in the background while you do something else.
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>>170682643
I'll try that.

>>170682685
I'll have to stop being a faggot then. I'll continue the grind later.
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So apparently Sugita threw out a bunch of gay porn quotes in the RoB Shadowchannel stream.
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>>170682991
You should be on my dick.
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>>170682472
Ganbare Anon-kun! it's not easy but you can do it!
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>>170683051
making that script will take you longer than manual re-rolling unless you knew nox scripting beforehand, not like you spend more than few hours to manually re-roll at worst
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>>170673969
Is it bad that Im actually excited to build around this card?
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>>170683180
Nox scripting is super easy. You literally hit record, go through the tutorial and pack opening and hit stop on your card collection page. That's it.
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65489 (Golly)
need a full win or just concede if we already played
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>>170682686
Sorry my bad, it can't clean up floral fencer + any other cards.
Anyway, the point remains. WotF is actually really unreliable. Considering your attitude towards it I highly doubt you've ever actually played with it, but a ton of the times you end up falling short and it sucks.
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>Play against what I assume is aggro sword wth a perfect curve opener of quickblader into lancer into pompous into amelia into albert
>Someone hang on
>Starts playing cards like odin, olivia, otohime, and frontguard
>Win by being an elana shitter and outhealing him + lots of board clearing
Does Control Sword just run a bunch of aggro cards now? Those first three turns had me so fooled.
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>>170683383

>considering your attitude towards blahblahblah

Ever fought Forest in DE era? Ever got your Charon+Lich and 2 set of Death's Breath getting cleared by Will of the Fuckers with the help of May?

Shut the fuck up, forestfucker.
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>>170683485
it always did

if anything it's "midrange" sword that stopped running pompous, fencer etc
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>>170683383
>Considering your attitude towards it I highly doubt you've ever actually played with it, but a ton of the times you end up falling short and it sucks.
Yeah I don't play with it but I'm always on the receiving end with it and get my board raped every single time.
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>>170683485
Aggro doesn't run Amelia. You should've known it was Midrange before turn even seeing those other cards.
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>Literally every evo point gets used on levi
This card is so much better than every other 2 drop.
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>Imperial Dragoon
>Dark Dragoon Forte

Should I just follow something like https://svspot.com/2017/01/25/legendary-tier-list-with-liquefy-and-rerolling-guide/ and reroll until I get something in the 'Staples' list?
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>>170683498
>A board clear clears the board
>N-no guys it's overpwoered I swear!!
The fact that it can't even clear death's breath or charon + lich without another card, and a max fucking hand size I should add, shows just how shitty WotF can really be. It's no Themis, that's for sure.
Here's a bigger question: why do people constantly say board wipes are overpowered? They're a staple part of the game; without them, Daria would be unstoppable, for instance. Is it just salty midrange players?
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>>170683580
>it always did.
No it didn't.
Control doesn't and has never run Quickblader or Pompous.
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>>170683126
He's losing his sanity just like his hair.
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>>170683618
Midrange runs Olivia, Frontguard, and Odin now?
God damn I've really been out of the loop.
For some reason, whenever I play ranked all I've been getting is Darias, Aggro Shadow, and some assorted control decks. Sword is this supposed menace but I rarely see them. I'm at AA2, 3oo away from AA3, I'd figure I'd be drowning in Sword.
Also Control has never run those cards before. I would know, I play CSword sometimes. CSword doesn't even run a single 1 mana card.
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>>170683652
w-what about me?
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>>170683670
Just post your rolls here and we'll tell you if they are good or not.
But if it's anything less than 6 legendaries, don't bother.
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>>170683670
Just aim for the legos and golds you need to make the deck you want to play, that list looks pretty ok tho.
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>>170683694

>death's breath needing that precious 6 Shadow for 3 2/3s
>all forestfuckers need is will of the fuckers + may when shitting at 9 cards

Again, fuck off. You cannot even count a floral fencer board.
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>>170683694
You forgot the part where it's under-costed, one-sided and in a deck that's insanely good at maintaining tempo. Just fucking gas yourself, elfshitter.
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>>170683727
you underestimate the meme level of people who play """control""" sword
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>>170683670
well, i wouldn't aim for dragon staples

pic related

aim for albert or daria or cerb or nep and about 4-5 other leggos

>>170683817
you don't give 3 points of a guaranteed burn for 1 pp, vampy
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>>170683670
It depends on the deck you want to play.

>Sword
2+ Alberts

>Rune
2+ Darias

>Shadow
2+ Cerbs or 2+ Neps

>Haven
2 Seraphs

>Elf
2+ Ancient elf but I wouldn't reroll elf since they're the only craft whose precon contains 2 very good legendaries.

If you get any of those plus some decent other legendaries like maybe a baha/odin/satan then it's probably a keep.
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>>170683652

I heard you were talking about 2 drops.
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>>170683970
aiming for more than 1 of any specific leggo you will not get your re-roll in any foreseeable future
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>>170683817
She's just okay. 1 face damage and 1 bat isn't really anywhere near fetching a 1 mana 3 damage burn spell.

Vampy only really gets full value on a turn where she can be dropped with either vamp fortress or summon bloodkin and evo
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>>170683816
>Midrange runs Olivia, Frontguard, and Odin now?
It doesn't either. That's just Midsword with a stronger late game. You can also call it Control with a stronger early game.
Either way, it's not standard for Control or Midrange. It was probably someone that made a Midrange build and decided to run Odin for Seraph and Olivia for Albert. Frontguard is not too weird for a Midrange deck, since it's a strong 7pp card.
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>>170683891
Oh fuck off, you get a 5 shadow refund from it anyway. Sorry sometimes your board gets cleared and you can't win every game shadowfag
>>170683902
It's one-sided but if you've been playing a bunch of minions it won't do any damage.

Seriously guys, I know you love to shit on forest but WotF isn't even close to a problem card. Now Roach, Ancient Elf, and Princess Mage on the other hand...
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>>170684083
That's not true at all. I got 2 rerolls with 2+ Darias (one had a playset) and a 2x Nep reroll within four hours of rerolling.

Obviously there is luck involved but pulling a decent reroll like that isn't very time consuming.
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>>170679889
yes, all these oglers and blade mages that I'm definitely drawing at the right times
every fucking deck wins when it draws the nuts; in the majority of games you won't
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>>170684113
she also combos with summon bloodkin and other spells (night horde, veight's clash etc)
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>>170684113

t8 vamp queen and vampy isn't too shabby either.
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So, any of these prebuilt decks have any value to them? Which one would you buy if your only deck is a netdecked dariacraft?
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>>170684218
>within four hours
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>>170684124

>5 shadow refund

Tell me how the fuck you get an extra shadow, you country bum. How many pigs you oversold for that?
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>>170684354
with your cards i would buy shadow prebuilt, crafted the third cerb and got aggro shadow
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>>170684354
Buy the one that has cards for a deck that you want to build. Just don't buy the Haven one for anything other than cosmetics, especially since you already have 2 Moon for Storm Haven. All of them, except for the Haven pre-built, are worth it.
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>>170684354
Shadow or Blood
Blood is nearly enough for a full aggro deck

Same with shadow since you already have a cerb
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>>170684124
every playable card in a problem craft is a problem card
ancient elf and princess mage are strong; crafts are allowed to have strong cards. Problems only arise when they have strong cards and few-to-no weaknesses; and WotF is a card that contributes to that. If forest had the kind of control-killing endgame that (it currently does) dshift does but the same inability to stave off aggro, it would be a much more balanced deck
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>>170684354
Elf is generally considered the best value since both Tia and AE are pretty much going to be staples forever unless we get powercreep out the ass.

Blood is good too since it has queen vamp and mary but those are really only good in CBlood.

Rune, sword, shadow, and Dragon are all middling with one good legendary and one shitty one.

Haven is hot garbage unless you REALLY want to play storm haven.
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>>170684124
>Sorry sometimes your board gets cleared and you can't win every game shadowfag
And you don't get to clear the board whenever the fuck you want either, brain-damaged forestfucker.
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>>170684354
also with your cards you can easily get storm haven (moon bun isn't strictly needed for it though, you can get it without leggos with 2 valhallan generals instead of bunnies), also there are some decks which don't need leggos (aggro blood, budget elana, budget face dragon etc) and aggro blood is pretty good also you can use your luci in elana
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>>170684413
4, whatever.
Look, I hate playing Shadow, I don't keep track of this shit. Luna can go get banished somewhere.
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>>170683320
still looking for a throw
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>>170684661

The fact you suck in math might be the reason why you think 5PP for 8 pings that ignore target-immunity is bad.

Go fucking back to grade school.
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>>170684661
>Luna can go get banished somewhere.
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What a first pick.
Which one fampaitachi?
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>>170684851
Left.
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>>170684692
thanks buddy
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>>170684609
Forest isn't even tier 1 in this meta, so by your definition every single one of their cards are perfectly balanced.
>>170684639
>>170684762
You don't seem to understand shadowpedos.
I'm not denying WotF is a great card. Obviously it's strong. But it's not even close to the word overpowered. It has its flaws that keep it from being truly powerful. As someone who plays both Forest and Haven, I'd take Themis any day of the week honestly. The fact that WotF is one sided doesn't usually come up; board-based forest decks like Tempo Forest don't even play WotF because their hand isn't fat enough. If you care about your board, chances are you're not running WotF.
WotF is a good, strong card, but it is not overpowered in the slightest. It's balanced.
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>>170684851

Left. Front Lines only works if you manage to open multiple cheap officers.
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>>170684980
But Arubeto...
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>>170681529
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>>170685030
Bahamut and Tsubaki are way better than just Albert, especially in take-two
Front Lines is fucking trash.
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>>170682472
whats the mmr gain/loss per win in A and AA
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>>170685030

The thing about bad cards in a draft is that you are more prone to draw into them in those 5 matches.

>had to draft valkyrie's spear due to bad neutral pool
>had it in 10 of the cards for each matches
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>Final stretch to Masters
>two Darias who drop a full board on turn 5
Oh no

Am I tilting

IS THIS TILTING
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>>170684971

>literally "We don't want good cards. We want OP cards" the post

Last (you) as a pity for you, one with brain damage.
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Oh shit 12/12
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>>170685116
70-100 loss, 100-150 gain. Just no streaks.
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>>170685116
about 100 for winning and 100 for losing on average. you can get a max of 150 if you fight people who are higher rank than you.
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>>170684609
>few-to-no weaknesses
What is card draw, board clear and a half decent wincondition that doesn't require eight specific cards in your hand?
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>>170685303
When will this Rowen bullying ever end?
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>>170685271
What are you talking about retard?
I'm not complaining about it. I'm objecting to your silly shitter claim that WotF is OP.
Go back to D rank, okay?
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>>170685374
But anon WotF is the best board clear ever and is super overpowered!! Forest has no problems with big boards of anything other than shitty little minions and definitely has not been unfavored against Sword since the Homecoming nerf and Daria because of it! They're fine on the board clear front!
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>>170685446

>(you)

It's lovely to see idiots who hasn't been around since DE era to throw the D rank insults around.

Or they are just retarded Forestfucker who actually thinks their cards are remotely balanced.
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>>170685303
That card looks really cool, but is so shit
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>Eidolon
>Lord of the Flies
>Queen Vampire
>Nepthys (her ability probably needs deck full of last words right)

keep or delete?
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>>170685562
I know right? Just don't play cards and you get to do 8 randomly distributed damage! Isn't that insane?
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>>170685303
>tfw you try out Wildfang OTK variant
>tfw you mill yourself to death first actual OTK attempt
>tfw you learn that only cards discarded from hand work and not overdrawn cards on your second try doing only 12 damage while opponent is ready to lethal you

Somebody post a sad Rowen image for me.
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>>170685654
Vial
Probably vial
Keep
Keep
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>>170685654
Reroll
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>>170685303
>dragon playing discard
DISGRACE
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>another memer trying to play control sword with Bahamut
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>>170685679

>fairy circle, fairy whisperer, JUSTice, elven princess mage

Gee, I wonder where all those cards go.
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>>170685679
>forest
>ever has less than 9 cards on hand
The only time you roachfuckers expend your hand is when you slap the opponent in the face with 20 storm damage in a single turn.
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>>170685562
>forest is barely unfavored against literally two of the ~15 decks in the game
>clearly it's time to whine about forest's weaknesses!
kys roachfucker
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>>170685654
Nepthys decks are currently one of the few meta decks right now. The 2378 and 2478 variants aren't too expensive since the only legendary is Nep, but the deck does use quite a few golds.

You could probably do better rerolling some more though.
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>>170685582
>Trying to pull the newfag card
>Only been playing since DE
Don't make me laugh, shitter. I've been playing since day 1 of the english release. I was around back in the /mbgg/ days. I helped this general not immediately die out when it was first created. I have 100% played as and against more forestcraft than you ever will.
You're a fucking idiot if you think WotF is even remotely overpowered. You have no idea about balance in this game. First of all you ahven't even played the fucking card so you're talking straight out of your ass, second 8 random damage pings isn't even that much, and lastly the fact that it's random and it runs off your hand size is a massive downside.
But of course, you haven't actually given any reasoning to how it's overpowered besides whining, so I don't know what I expected. Have a nice day, shadowshitter, maybe one day you'll get to C rank.
Also, hey, control shadow is pretty good against forest. Just pointing that one out.
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I want to beat on Luna's butt like a pair of bongo drums!
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>it's a you lose because your opponent has more bahamuts episode
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1/20 private games done, please go aggro

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>Shadowfags whining about a card of a class they're favored against
Really banishes my mordecais
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Why does Dshift keep going off on Turn 8.

Why every single game, turn 8? Turn 8 specifically? WHY IS A GIANT SPELL SO CHEAP ON TURN 8
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>>170685976

>implying that 8 pings are not enough to finish off an evolved follower board who has just traded on turn 5

Admit it. You are just salty you are no longer tier 1 because Diarrhea shits out more board than you can ping, right?
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I want to sex Daria___
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>>170685968
>Nepthys decks are currently one of the few meta decks right now.
>source: my ass
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>draft decent take 2 deck
>win first 4 matches
>every match against masters
>go 1st in 3 of those
>brick against some C1 shitter in the final match
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>>170685976
>WotF doesn't win the game for 5 mana so it's not OP!
why are elf apologists completely incapable of containing their autism?
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>>170686162
Wow, your WotF might go 1 for 1 or even 2 for 1 in that situation! Amazing. What a broken card!
Oh anon, you're cute.
Also no, it's not Daria. This was back before your time newfag, but when they nerfed homecoming PtP's Sword match-up when from slightly favored to unfavored. Note this was literally Midrange Sword's only bad match-up at the time, so Midrange Sword was then fucking EVERYWHERE on ladder and it was awful.
Now Aggro Sword is the deck with almost no bad match-ups. How far we've come.
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Should I save for the expansion? I was pulling RoB, but now that I have a Dragoon playset it probably isn't worth it.
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>>170686346
Why are lunafags incapable of reading comprehension?
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>fight sword in arena
>lose to fangblade into albert
>fight sword in arena
>lose to aurelia
how the fuck are these t2 sword players getting constructed decks
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>>170686390

>complaining about a card that has just been discussed about able to clear up to 3 followers without spending an EP
>most midrange vs forest in previous meta has the latter dropping PTP and nothing the former could do about in tournaments

Go back to the woods.
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>>170686537

Eh, Lunacraft would love a 5PP 8 pings if the forestfuckers are not happy with it.
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>claim it does 8 damage but fail to mention that requires 9 cards in hand while playing it
>have to play crappy fairy generator cards and horde onto fairies to get any value out of the card
>can't even remotely clear Daria boards making it one of forests worst matchups as any control variant
>Retards actually think WotF is overpowered

Maybe you should trade into those turn 2 fairies instead of going face like every unga retard in this game. You know, to prevent the fat elf and fairy bounce which refills hand size.
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>>170686253
>getting chocolate in your vagina
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>>170686483
Pull only if you want specific emblems now, you probably won't get much value out of RoB packs anymore.
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>relying on Maid Leader alone to search for Albert
lmaoing at all your decks family
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>>170686696

>no 1PP in hand going second
>only can drop Unica on turn 2
>while forest already went fairy circle > 2 fairy > soccermom

???? What trade?
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>>170686483
I'd wait for the rest of the free packs to come out before deciding that.
Without even getting into your golds though, you're still missing copies of Nep, Bahamut, Albert, and Sahaquiel.
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>>170686765
really tutors my Alberts..
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>opponent rams white wolf into my ward
>oh shit i'm at 18 health i'm gonna die
>0 cost will of the forest
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I hope Themis is reduced to 5 mana. It's way too much at 6.
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>>170686537
>y-you're bad at reading comprehension! I can't possibly be bad at communicating!
nobody likes roachfuckers besides other roachfuckers; you can't change that by whining about shadow mains or telling irrelevant stories about standard midsword
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>>170686765
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>>170686936

No, those country bumpkins will then complain about their will of the fuckers needing to be 4PP instead.
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>>170686914
Sometimes life shits on you

>that feel when won this game because of zero cost fairy beast
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>>170687002
WotF should be 4pp.
I can't WotF and fairy beast in the same turn, what the fuck Cygames.
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>>170686792
forestfags are too mentally damaged to display empathy which means they assume everyone gets to run elf child may
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>>170685976

>been playing day 1
>cannot count the net shadow gained from a powered Death's Breath
>cannot count the total defense of a Floral Fencer board

Are you for real? Do you need a fucking formula to count your roach OTK?
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>>170686116
Thank you vanias and luna!
4/20 done!

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>>170686765
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>People still whining about forest when they're not even cancer anymore
My favorite part about playing Forest is basking in all the salt in the general
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>>170686792
Not to mention they sometimes play double may and kill your 2pp drop so you have absolutely no way to deal with their fat ancient elf.

Elf shitters are the worst.
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>>170687223

>whining

It's more like you're kind whining about not having board clear when they have perfectly usable one-sided clear in Will of the Fuckers.

And you guys can't count to save your lives.
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>>170686824
My issue with those cards is that there's a good chance they fall out of the new meta, and they're not particularly interesting aside from being OP as hell. Neps would be nice though, since I primarily play Shadowcraft, I just wish there were more interesting things to do with her than cast Khavy and summon Mordecai.
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TOG PV MOVIE WHEN?
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>>170687342
Don't lump me in with that anon. Some of us can actually count
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>not just playing Satan and acquiring infinite value
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/5ykkyu/price_adjustments_for_packs_realy/

https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/hearthstone/topic/17615113897

TLDR
>adventures removed
>3 expansions per year making the game much more expensive
>more than 60% of current card pool removed into wild format
>packs will GO UP 50%
>FIFTHY FUCKING PERCENT

Hey /svg/, are you ready for ANOTHER exodus of Hearthstone players into this general and game?
Literally more than half of the playerbase is either moving into Shadowverse, Gwent or Eternal.
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So is there an actual good Sprit Cycle list floating around or are people just assuming it'll be good in the new Necromancy decks that ToS is pushing?
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>>170678717
Good lord, this hurts to watch.
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>>170687623
>packs will GO UP 50%
What the fuck Blizzard
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>Shitters still complaining about Forest, now attacking a fair and balance board clear instead of Roach
next you're gonna whine about Fairy Beast can heal for 8
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>>170687623
well, for the price increase you should really thank the exchange rate of euro
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>>170687646

I don't know, seems like just by having 12 1-drops you could start getting shadows to spam necromancy early on. That's what I'm trying out anyways since there's no real pressure in mememaster rank to do well.
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>>170687117
>>170686792
>claims anyone lacks empathy despite shadowcraft currently have one of the most lopsided winrates against any craft in the entire game because of one blatantly bullshit silver card
>act like you are constantly mistreated and your craft is shit even though shadow is easily top 3 right now
>but it's not good enough, you have to cry about WotF of all things and one of the few crafts that actually cucks the aggro shitter infestation right now

Oh vey remembuh DE and the 6 gazillion banished last words minions you stupid forest goyim.
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>>170687726
People have already whined about Fairy Beast, that's old news.
Next they'll be whining about nature's guidance
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>>170687623
>half of the playerbase

you underestimate how much people will want to hold onto their collections and stick with the game regardless
sunk cost is going to keep most of them there, no matter how much they complain
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>finished all of the free rewards for beginners
>every private match
>every main story bonus
>every take two run
>still haven't crafted a deck for ladder out of fear of making the wrong one

h-help
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I don't know why I chose to do by Blood dailies as CBlood.
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30508 need 3 concedes pls
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>>170686765
>feena
>wasting evo's that could be spent on going face with albert
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>>170688103
Post your golds and legendaries
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>>170688103
Just play something cheap like aggro blood until you get your shit together.
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Reroll?
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>>170688103
Just make a couple cheap aggro decks and wait to see what becomes of things in the next expansion.
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>>170688368
go be a daria shitter
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>>170688368
Tempo Rune
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>>170687623
>>170687902
>reddit
>HS
>unrelated content
>normalfag everywhere
>anime pic
You guys are killing /a/ and 4chan. Falseflaggers.
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>>170688103
Just ladder up with some cheap shit aggro deck so you don't feel bad if you want to switch later on.

You'll eventually reach the point where you can craft multiple good decks anyways. And unless you're crafting expensive leggos for meme shit like cblood or ramp dragon, certain legendaries are going to usually have staying power. Like Daria, Albert, Ancient Elf are never going to be bad unless they nerf them, and then hey, you get your vials back anyways.
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>>170688368
How many packs do you start with right now? Rerolls will probably get at whatever point the expansion comes out.
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>>170688459
Post dick
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>>170688474
So what's your favorite hearthstone decks /svg/? Past or present
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>>170688589
None. I've never played it, I am older than you.
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>>170687185
Thank you Vania and talkative Forte!
6/20 done!

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>>170688559
10/10/10. Of course you still have all the arena tickets, easy AI/PM gold, and current log-in event.
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>>170688638
How old are you anon?
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>>170687623
It doesn't say anything about US prices. This only affects europoors.
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>>170687646
I think Spirit Cycle is still gonna be pretty bad in constructed even with the upcoming support, it's a tempo loss when dropped on curve and you don't get enough shadows early game to keep the draw going, even off curve it limits what you can do that turn. Just play Conversion tbqh.
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>>170688559
34, 35 if you count the 100 gold
10 regular 10 darkness 14 bahamut tickets.

>>170688459
>>170688440
Does that mean I should keep this reroll and finish the story mode?
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>>170688682
*and I am older than you
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I've played 5 Mordecais or Nephthys fetching Mordecais in 4 games so far and 4 out of 5 of them were Odin'd immediately after
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Isn't there a more horrible feeling than this?
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>>170688368
If you want to/are ok with playing daria you can keep. It's not amazing but it's workable.
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2578 or 2378? What are the advantages of either?
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>>170688797
Going 0-5, probably.
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>t1 fairy circle going first
>t2 2 fairies
>t3 soccermom
>t4 sukuna+liza
>t5 2 fairies + beetle warrior + evolve sukuna

That's a minimum of 9 damage on turn 5 and can only be countered by Haven with either bald priest or sledge.

Forestfags will still complain, though.
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>>170688780
Get fucked shadowfag
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>>170688559
>reroll when expansion comes out
>miss out on 8 packs from current event
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>>170686765
Sad thing is that this could probably win a decent amount.
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>>170688797
You picked your poison and died from the very same.
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>>170688882
>Can only be countered by haven
Or Rune with glow or calamitous.
Or any deck that plays minions in the early game.
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>>170688829
What would be an amazing card? I might as well keep rolling till I get something cool and good.
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>>170688797
5 losses
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>>170688847
2578 you can sometimes surprise murder people from half their health
2378 you don't get murdered by aggro
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>>170688991
This was a Daria reroll I gave to a friend.

I wouldn't worry about it though, 2 Darias is fine and after you collect all your free shit you can easily make Tempo rune.
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>>170688989

>glowing either sukuna or liza and eat soccermom's arrow
>calamitious against turn 5 board
>minions that can deal with 4/5 soccermom

Sounds like a plan, /hsg/fag.
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>>170688847
2578 is more midrange and has a better chance against DShift and Seraph, but it also bricks harder because the two parts of the deck don't really mesh that well.
2378 is more consistent and more control heavy, you will autolose to DShift and Seraph but you get to rape Dragon much harder.
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>>170688368
odin, daria and wolf is good.

otohime is out of the meta and eidolon is a meme deck.
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>play Nep
>dont draw Nep
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>>170688847
>>170689121
What are these numbers?
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>>170689005
2578 has goblinmount which is much better than spartoi soldier/feathering patroller that crumble to aggro
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>>170689178

Nep's bust size
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>>170689103
So what are we to assume that you play literally 0 cards before they do their turn 5 play?
You can easily get rid of at least 1 of the two 1/1s if you have literally any low cost interactive card or 1 drop. Yeah the nuts can happen but your 2 fairies don't generally survive. Every deck can do the nut draw.
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>>170689161
>play nep
>draw all neps and mordes
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>>170689178
Follower costs.

Nep decks will constrain themselves to running followers of four specific costs so when they nut on turn 8 they guaranteed pull a Kamura and morde to stabilize.
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>>170689087
>>170689131

Shoot I didn't even realize I got two Darias. Multiples are good, right? Guess I'll stick with this set.
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>>170688879
>>170689003
If I drafted a deck that could net me 0-5, I'll just quit from the start. Luckily, I haven't gotten a 0-5 from at least an average deck.

>>170688983
The last match was pretty even. But it was kinda anti-climatic losing to a turn 9 albert.
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>>170689265
I want to play Calamitous Curse after Luna plays her Nep after running the timer right to the end!
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Have they said when they are going to remove albert yet?
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What class should I pick.
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>>170689428
See sword.

Pick sword.

Dragon is fine too if you have dailies.
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>>170689121
I dunno, I fuck Haven up with 2378 what feels like pretty often. Dshit is still autoloss though.
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>>170689428
shadow

sword if you suck
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>>170689420
As soon as you remove your life Cygame says.
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>>170688639
Thank you Eris
7/20!

48305
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>>170689420
Yeah, they're going to be removing Albert when the new expansion hits. They're also going to actually print a card that counters spellboost, and they're removing roach and Daria too, so it's gonna be an exciting time to play!
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>>170689463
I was greeted by this as my first choice.
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>>170689397
I always have a last option Deathly Tyrant :^)
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>>170689397
Not this time, dirt-loving scum!
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>>170689207
Goblinmount comes out too late to do much against aggro, and he'll probably just get DoD'd anyways. Spartoi/Patroller come out earlier, and can be run alongside Healing Angels for more anti-aggro.
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>>170688780
No, for real, my next game was against CSword and they had Odin on 8. Why can't I queue into someone who doesn't have Odin every time?
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>>170689553
Left.
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White Paladin / Charlotte
Or
Fangblade / Front Lines
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>>170689645
not like 2578 doesn't run six 3pp removals and a fuckton of 2pp cards to contest the board
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Someone post a Aggro Shadow list or Luna gets it!
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>>170688882
Except the AE can be killed on turn 3 by
>blitz lancer + 2 drop
>art of the ninja + 1-drop or 2-drop
>secrets of erasmus
>pact of nethergod/soul hunt + 2 drop
>sadistic night
>salamander + 2-drop
>razory claw + 2-drop
>2-drop + blackened scripture
>petrification
Probably more I'm missing even.

This isn't even taking into account the opponent being aggro and playing a 1 drop that kills a fairy before it gets bounced.

I always like these fantasy land scenarios where one side draws the perfect curve and the other apparently just jerks off doing nothing for 4 fucking turns.
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>>170689397

>Calamitious Curse will still be thrown around when ToG is around
>when Shadow will get up to 9 copies of board flood

I mean, most rune I played usually shat themselves and cast it against a board of zombies. Unless they are going to tech in Mutagenic Bolt, seems like they are going to run out of board clears more often than not.

inb4 turn 10 bahamut
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>>170689207
Double Spartoi early shits all over Aggro.
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>>170689752
Is 2378 somehow forbidden from running those same cards?
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>>170689827
Rite of exorcism kills it too.
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>>170689752
With 0 draw power
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I dont get the wording on Aegis. It says it can't be targeted by spells and effects which to a MTG player means "destroy all" or "destroy a random" effects would work.
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>>170688103
You could literally make a Sword or Blood aggro deck that don't run any golds or legends that will do fine in ladder even at AA+ out of sheerly being extremely consistent aggro.

In terms of next up on the cheapness leader, but still damn easy to play and ladder with is Storm Haven and Bat Blood. Bat Blood just needs Vampy and Fortresses. Storm Haven uses quite a few things, but the only 100% mandatory gold is Garuda.

Then there's Tempo Rune or Reach Shadow. Daria and Levis for Temp Rune, Cerberus and Phantom Howl for Reach Shadow. 3 legends and 3 golds.

There's also Albert Sword, but I would rather you play anything else since fuck Albert.
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>>170689721
right
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>>170689645
>>170689948
Bros, there's no need to argue here. You're both right. 2578 can have a strong game against aggro, but if they have DoD for Goblinmount you're basically fucked. 2378 is a bit more packed with anti-aggro and if you can drop multiple followers with ward and heal in the midgame you tend to not get so fucked over.
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>>170690015
It's unkillable and all damage done to it is 0 like Liza. Don't overthink it.
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>>170688368
Congrats, you can make a deck that will now roll over every single elite AI for another 2800 Rupees right this moment.

Vial some bad cards and craft a Tempo Rune deck to shit on the AI and pretty much everyone on the early ladder.

Treasure the times you get 10+ winstreaks consistently.
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>>170689664
You had Mordecai on 8 as well, so what's the problem? You want your opponent to just bend over?
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>>170690015
It's not "can't be targeted".
It's "can't be affected by effects other than those that change stats."
It doesn't die to bane, It doesn't get ward from guardian sun, but it gets stats from Elana
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>>170689891
i dont recall i ever had a problem with aggro blood vs 2378, also nep had an exceptionally bad winrate vs aggro when 2378 was especially popular, it still has a bad winrate vs aggro though

>>170689948
it means they get at least three 3pp drops less then, because 2578 runs only six of 5pp drops while 2378 runs nine 3pp drops
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>>170689783
Alright return her to me, Mr. Burglar.
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>>170690138
I want to not get countered by the same card 5 out of 6 times in 5 games. I mean, you'd think I'd run into Daria or Aggro Sword or something in that span, but nope. Two Control Bloods, some sort of Satan Haven, and a Control Sword, and they all had Odin waiting for me every time I played Neph/Morde, except once.
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>>170690189
>return her to me, Mr. Burglar.
Just because you have an animated play set of a card, doesn't mean you should shove it into a deck and recommend to someone, this deck lacks a pretty obvious thing.
PS: It's not the bloody angel.
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>2378 vs 2578

2378 is more control-oriented while 2578 has enough offense to deal with the likes such as DShift. Ladder-wise, I will suggest 2578 because it actually has two plans (Start with cheap cards? Be the aggressor. Bricks? Be defensive)

t. Dude who piloted 2378 with 65% winrate over 100 in the pre-nerf meta
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>>170690189
The fuck are you even Soul converting here?
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So... this is the power of forestcraft...
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>>170690482
>2378
>2578
wtf are those numbers dude.
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>>170690629
Ghosts
1 drops when you have a really shit hand
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>>170690482
Can you post dick?
>>
>>170690629
His brain, gotta sacrifice it to make try to get something better. The only thing "acceptable" here to convert is necromancers, and that's only if that will give you lethal when you can't attack with them yet.
Everything else is tempo or dmg lost
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>>170690443
Lack what? I rode this deck to Master and still have a 70% winrate with it. AotW was a replacement for Gobu whom I took out after the nerf and she's still doing decent enough.
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>>170690482
but 2578 gets smashed by aggro or any sword
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>>170690648
1738
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>>170690443
it's a pretty ordinary aggro though
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>>170690142
>>170690129
>Can't be damaged. Can't be targeted by spells and effects other than those that relate to attack or defense. (For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)

>Can't be targeted by spells and effects
>Unless those relate to attack or defense

Aegis should absolutely be destroyed by themis, bahamut, and tribunal etc.
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>>170690754
>attack with one drop
>sack it with conversion to power up reaper and draw into your deck for those precious phantom howls and cerb
How is that a lost of tempo or damage or anything?
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>>170690776
except it doesn't
it's very agressive itself and therefore can trade with those
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>>170689535
8/20 Thank you Rowen

48305
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>>170690776
>any sword
This is why I stopped playing it. Feels like Sword takes up half of the ladder nowadays.
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>>170690753

Pic-related

>>170690776

But you are also part aggro yourself with a similar shell, so they are not going to expect that sudden GMD or Death's Breath play into Kawaii. Use that Phantom Howl to remove their board when you are not going to lethal them etc.
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Good night, bloodkin
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>>170690895
An Aegis that can be removed by anything, other than a bricky shit card like Odin, is Skullfane levels of unplayable. It already is a mediocre card to anyone with the most basic understanding of CCGs. You need to be so far ahead to be able to drop it freely in turn 9verse, that anything short of a guarantee of value is worthless.
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>>170673969
I like this card.
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>>170690754
Kys ESL piece of shit
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>>170690895
It survives through that
The Japanese makes it clear that it can't be affected by other card abilities and not just "can't be targeted by abilities"
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>>170690829
dont dare me ill slap ur shit
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>>170691052
WAKE UP
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>>170691052
night Angelic Barrage
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>>170690443
I hope you don't mean Attendant
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>>170691052
Night, Vampy.
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>>170690753
>>170691029

And I suck at keeping images.
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>>170691325
>ywn have pet bloodkins
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>>170691206
>The Japanese makes it clear that it can't be affected by other card abilities and not just "can't be targeted by abilities"

The official English release on their website makes it clear that you're incorrect. I seriously doubt you understand Japanese better than everyone here understands English.

Trash card, Skullfane tier. Literally dies to half the boardwipes in the game.
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>>170691325
are those panties? i mean their sleeping bags
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I got these two from my free packs. Are they viable with next expansion?
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>>170690895
>>170691452
>(For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)
>(For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)
>(For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)

Yeah, no.
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>>170691456

Sahaqt will be even better in ToG. Keep her. Eidolon is still a meme.
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>>170691456
sahaqueer is good for neutral ramp. Eidolon is memes
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>>170691456
And I got three of them. I have no clue how to make them work at all with the rest of my shitty haven cards.
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>>170691452
The English translation is done by a bunch of retards. They fucked up the story mode translation, they fucked up the Fanfare keyword, and they fucked this up as well.
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68617 need a concede please
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>>170691103
Jump in front of the next train, filthy yellow cretin, you will never be American.
You can't even construct a sentence without shortening half of it and yet you think you have the moral high ground to call anyone ESL.
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>>170691456
Sahaquiel if you play Dragoncraft. I dont think any countdown amulets have been spoiled so Eidolon is still shit atm.
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>>170691452
The official twitter has a compeltely different translation for the card that is more in line with protection from everything.
I don't know who the fuck translated the one on the website so terribly but it is absolutely not the righ ttranslation
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>>170691550
It;s amazing how many people can't even be bothered to read before they shitpost, isn't it.
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>>170691629
Thank you Bird senpai
>>
>52 (50%) cards confirmed

A perfect half. How is the reveal, guys?

Please don't be forest/dragonfags
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>>170691367
>Reaper
The absolute madman.
>>
Has anyone ever tried Control Rune?
I mean a control rune deck that is not combo dshift
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>>170691931
Yeah it's called Dirt Rune and it's decent at best
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>>170691052
Why is Vampy hiding the dead bodies of 3 bats with a blanket and choking another bat to death while having a smile on her face?
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>>170691961
How about without being Dirt
Control Rune that could have Dshift in it, but only as one of many wincons
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>>170691997
The weak should fear the strong.
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>>170691550
>Can't be targeted by spells and effects other than those that relate to attack or defense. (For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)

The "example" is to clarify that while it is effectively hexproof, it still can be targeted by effects that modify attack and defense.

So yeah, you can ignore how English works but it will still be removed by any non targeted destruction or banish effect.

Let me guess, you probably thought dragon egg was OP yesterday, too
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>>170691550
Forgot to mention they could have just wrote, "Can't be destroyed" if they wanted an indestructible card.
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Which deck will make me look like a cool dude, who can even stay calm if it gets rough.
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>>170691642
Kys ESL fucking shit
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>>170690776
m8 these numbers are codes for some site? can you post it?
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>>170686030
im just gonna sniff it
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>>170692061
it's not a "選択できない"
It's a "能力を受けない"
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>>170691884
Eachtar is good but I think he requires more than just Thane in this pack to be amazing. Servant is a good utility card and a total cutie. Minthe is just a Mirage Defender.
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>>170692227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCZI7fZJlgE
>>
>less than one month until ToG
>there will be those asking about Net's measurement

Is it going to be a meme now?
>>
Idk about you guys but I'm happy with my slow as fuck with 2478. I guess the extra lich helps me have a slightly better board presence and it usually acts as a bait sometimes
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>>170692169
Control Blood.
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>>170692169
Control
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>>170692061
>>170692165
Anon...
The website has a dumb translation that doesn't match the Japanese one. This one is the correct one. It doesn't have hexproof, it's Progenitus.
Except its stats can be changed.
But hey, don't believe us then come back and whine when you play Bahamut and Aegis lives.
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>>170692181
>he doesnt know
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This is why you don't waste early removal. Or use removal a lot while going first.

The guy used 2 Undying Resentments just to remove a Skull Beast and Unica on turns 2 and 3.
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>>170692330
I'm happy with my retarded as fuck 23478.
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>>170692274

>eachtar

I don't see that being a problem when you can curve from a Death's Breath board for a potential 12 damage.
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>>170692173
Read a dictionary son you're in dire need of expanding your vocabulary
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>>170692383
>>170692250
IDK which is more embarrassing, an incorrect translation on their own website, or designing such a useless brick of a legendary.

I guess time will tell.
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>>170692181
it's JAV code ID
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>>170692567
Just a new flavour of shitposting then, alright.
>>
>>170692695
they're nep decks, retard
>>
Would Angelic Barrage be decent in this aggro sword-infested meta?
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>first game
>one follower on board I can't get rid of
>need the morde + neph pressure to win
>play nephtits
>lose 1/4 rng roll
>no mord
>lose

>next game
>draw all mordecucks
>Neph is now 100% shittier
>lose

>last game
>play neph
>spawns khawys, attendant, lurching and morde
>entirely clear my opponents board, fill mine with 14/14 worth of stats, and heal for 5
>destroy him next turn

Wow it's like I'm really playing hearthstone the class!

>people actually enjoy playing this deck
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>>170692750
I'm not asking about the decks, if you spent five seconds reading you would have noticed. My question was about the origin of the codes themselves
>>
>Swordcraft was supposed to be about establishing a board presence and making favorable trades
>It's actually about cramming your deck with all the storm minions and then hitting face
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>>170692781
No
An evolved turn 5 fat albert is the problem and Angelic Barrage does nothing to him
>>
>>170692825
They're deck codes you dense motherfucker
>>
>>170692784

>Lurching and attendants

Stop playing shitty netdecks and make us look bad.
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>>170692825
they are the costs of followers in nep decks. how hard is it to gather that from the context
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>>170692546
Official site has incorect Aegis translation, offical Twitter has incorrect Tristan trait clarified by text later but image is wrong : 1 for 1 so far
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>>170692784
>lose 1/4 rng roll

you are suppose to have ONLY four different type of followers retard so you ALWAYS get morde.
>>
Why do people play netdecks in unranked? I just want to do my dailies.
>>
>>170692830
>board presence
>In removalverse
Good joke nigger.

By the end of the upcoming expansion, every single card without an immediate impact on the board or life total will be cut from every single deck.
>>
>>170692876
>>170692859
Sorry, I never touched Neph Shadow so I indeed totally missed the meaning. Glad you two were kind enough to point out what I was missing
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>>170686030
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>>
>Play 3 eggs
>Draw 3 cards every turn and gain 6 health
Defend this shadowbabs
>There are people in this general that actually thought the card went off every turn until overflow
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>>170693036
Because they also want to finish their dailies.
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>>170692870
>netdeck

Anyone who has at least a two digit IQ can fill a deck with minions in 4 different pp slots, stop projecting. The only thing lurching and attendant are bad against is aggro and I don't play much aggro because I only play this shit in unranked for the dailies.

I mostly play against D-shitters in unranked and a last word minion that summons a 4/4 is just free damage.

>>170692921
>reading comprehension
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>>170692921
>one follower on board I can't get rid of
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>>170693096
when the expansion hits, everyones going to complain about the egg :^)
>>
>>170686765
hmmmm.........really enhances your alberts....................
>>
>>170693096
>There are people in this general that actually thought the card went off every turn until overflow
ESL's with kindergarten level reading comprehension
>>
new card leaks when
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>>170693096
>A dire bond one third of the cost, that lasts twice as long, doesn't damage you, and is in the lowest rarity slot
Almost as retarded as the people that think a 9 mana legendary beat stick brick that would die to DoD or Fangblade would be printed in removalverse.
>>
>>170693420
i think it will die to khawy though
>>
>>170693591
Is Khawy killing something an effect?
Aegis is immune to it
>>
>>170693591
Khawy's kill effect isn't unique, it's the same as corpse. You don't even need to read to understand that they would print a 9 mana legendary that dies to a fucking 2 drop.
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>>170693393
Monday since the translators don't work on the weekends :^)
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>>170693662
Bahamut?
>>
>>170693591
What part of "unaffected by other cards" do you not understand you ESL shithead?
>>
Daily reminder that a second batch of thane board with Wight King (from the first thane) is easy 20 damage with Eachtar if left unanswered. Have a nice day.
>>
>>170693662
why not? lurching isnt easy to pop btw

>>170693626
it is random, i.e. it doesn't target that aegis
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>>170693179

Apparently you have 2 digit IQ then, since including Lurching will fuck up your Kawaii kill. Enjoy healing for 0 when the nurse killed off that Bahamut.
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dae think aegis dies to necroassassin? its not targeted
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>>170693774
>>170693707
>>170693827
You people don't seem to understand.
Aegis is immune to cards. Cards do not affect it. Text on cards do not apply to it. It doesn't matter what the effect is, if it targets, if it's random, whatever. Aegis is immune to it.
The only thing that has any effect on Aegis is stat changes.
God this really is Progenitus all over again
>>
>>170693719
you either can't read or are clinically retarded because it is not what is said in its description
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>>170693729
>anything left unanswered
>in removalverse
My sides
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>>170690895
Why not say
>"Can't be targeted or affected by spells and effects other than those that relate to attack or defense"
?
>>
>>170693903

>second Thane
>second

Right, that doesn't include the Death's Breath on turn 6.
>>
>>170693903
>Removalverse
>Doesn't even have 1 mana hard removal yet
Don't make me laugh
>>
>>170693887
You only need to remember DEBT with Progenitus and it still dies to Wrath.
>>
>>170693890
Drink bleach you ESL fuck nugget
>>
>>170690895
That's just MTG rules where the only way something gets targeted is if it literally says "target" in the text. In SV, if it affects it, it's a target, every time.
>>
>>170693926
>>170693890
The website description is poorly translated. This is the accurate one, and the one that will most likely show up in-game:f
>>170692383
>>
>>170694023

If Aegis dies to Themis, no one is going to use it over Seraph. They can't be that stupid, even with Ginger in the same expansion.
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>Can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.
You're all fucking retarded. What part of this sentence can you not parse?
>>
>>170694023
Shit you're right.
It's more like True-name then.
>>
>>170694097
themis isn't the real problem of agis when bahamut exists, haven isn't that popular after all
>>
I can already see the face of post TotG /svg/
>What the fuck I played Themis and his Aegis is still alive??
>I ran fangblade into Aegis and it lived? Is this a bug?
>>
>>170694097
No, Aegis mostly likely won't die to Themis. I'm just pointing out the comparison with Progenitus.
>>
It isn't affected by effects other than those that change stats.
You won't be able to transform it to a snowman or clay golem nor will you be able to bounce it back into hand.
>>
>>170694123
that's your head canon, the actual line it's that it can't be targeted with spells and effects
>>
>>170693816
>being this butthurt of a shadowmain faggot because someone insulted your deck

You're right. I am super concerned about the ~1/8 chance for Neph to spawn a lurching and proc it before Khawys instead of putting 2 of a half decent card in my deck.

Of course if it did happen then it's just more "stories to tell your friends!" which matches the direction they took shadow in RoB
>>
>>170694224
>Aegis hits the board
>want to kill it with tsubaki/odin
>couldn't target him and my tsubaki/odin is on the board now
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LITERALLY UNKILLABLE
>>
>>170694284
No you idiot
see >>170692383
Website translation is WRONG, this is official Twitter which is correct
>>
>>170694224
>Implying this just isn't flavor of the month shitposting
It's literally just "wtf Themis kills my board I used Lisa" and Vampire Fortress all over again They know how the cards work, they're just baiting for easy (you)s.
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>>170694284
It says it on both versions of text you dumb fuck.
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>>170694232
its not even that fucking complicated, why does this need to be explained so many times
>>
>>170694340
Worse of all, if you try to play either one with no targets, it'll just land on board instead of letting you see if there are valid targets.
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>>170694356
sure, the official translation is wrong and you are the chosen one who knows the truth
>>
>>170694436
>>170694436
>>170694436

New thread
>>
>>170694338

>2pp 1/2 that needs an activator to be good
>decent

Seriously, dude. Don't try to challenge your own IQ.
>>
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>>170694360
>>
>>170694476
That is the official translation you donut
>>
>>170694476
They're both "official" until the actual in-game official version is out.
>>
>>170694515
>needs an activator to be good
>cheap punish for board clears
>cheap punish for bahamut
>cheap punish for ward minions

You are quite literally retarded if you think lurching corpse is in any way a bad card. The only matchup it's not great against is aggro decks, but that's why I have 3 unicas and only 2 lurching.
>>
>>170694818

>punish a themis
>bullying dragon in harder
>implying they cannot fairy spam to protect their soccermom

Nice 2 digit IQ.
>>
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Support Cannon seems great but I am wondering how a deck that uses it should be built.

Would we be using any Uriels at all?

Also, seems it may fit better into a Csword deck, ya?
>>
How is sword balanced /svg/
>>
>>170695049
To be honest, 5 drop seems too late for this to be good. Dragon and Haven struggle to find time to drop 3 and 2 drop amulets.
>>
>>170695049
It is a board clear card for CSword without giving it to more aggressive lists. The new Luminous Mage card has synergy with this. There's a good chance that it'll be a meme but who knows how fast the game will be in ToG.
>>
>>170695150

They don't have a reliable board clear And no, Cyclone Blade is not reliable.
>>
>>170695172
I'm inclined to agree but I really just want to see this deck work, without slowing a deck down.

The cannon is a great idea but the cost really is a problem.
>>
>>170694895
>fairy spam
>can get punished with cheap foul tempest before they can bounce them

They can't play extra fairies with AE on turn 3. If you think cucking your opponent out of a turn 3 AE isn't good then you are truly an idiot.

>dragon is the only class that runs bahamut
>waaaah every board clear is themis
>what is lion spirit?
>what is cyclone blade?
>what is WotF?

I repeat, if you think lurching corpse is a bad card, then you are completely fucking retarded and there is no helping you. I am sorry that you apparently don't understand how to use it properly.
>>
>>170695651

Says the guy who cannot pilot Nep right and rather have RNG with Kawaii heal.

Keep being a shitter, 2digit. No one cares.
>>
>>170695049
Honestly, costing 5 makes it kind of tough to play. People can just as easily get rid of it and on the turn you play it it's not likely that you'll be triggering any instances of its effect.

Try to even find an opening to play this card.
>>
>>170695959
>already know it's only a 1/8 chance
>doesn't realize its a risk I am willing to take

Why do you keep replying when you have nothing to say that I already don't understand about the deck. How can one individual be this butthurt because someone insulted the stupid RNG of nepdecks in specific situations.
>>
Why is there no option to save Replays?
>>
>>170696143

>did stupid shit
>got told off
>asked why he got told off

Good grief. You really have 2 digit IQ. Your family have my pity.
>>
Always remember that when you play against sword, they always have an Albert. Even when their hand is empty, even when they've played three.

There is always an Albert.
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