/domg/ Dominions General

>>170562263
>>170569950
Well since your game is not too different from mine I will join you. You can pm me on Discord
YoyBoy#5823

There's actually a Dominion general. Huh.

PS. Spooks empire is where its at.

>>170572749
There's been one for a long time, you just might've not spotted it with the anime pics we use for openers.

>>170572749
It was here for about 3 years, I think. It was here when I started playing Dom4 MP.

Don't let the shit thread of the dead game die, please.

>>170572749
Hownew.ru

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>>170574414
I'm just a lurker, I can't bump a general by myself.

Supposing you have 40 or so high hp, unarmored tramplers (trogdolytes, elephants, etc) coming toward you army of men and you only have earth magic. You have 4 earth mages with E2 and summon earthpower. Would you rather try and meld them, allowing for your troops to create a line and hopefully morale route them, or pray to RNGesus for good bladewind distributions?

Don't have maws of the earth yet.

>>170575601
Probably earth meld.

I want an ichtyid nation!

Can a bunch of berserking assholes capture a province after their commander routs?

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>The game admin for SkeletonWar has just rolled the game back to the previous turn

>>170578818
I think so.

>>170578871
It hosted successfully, you numbskull. I rolled it back to prevent Saoluthi's time rift from activating. You can safely send turns, just don't let that fag participate in combat.

>>170578818
Used to play Marverni alot. The boar warriors can capture an area even if all their commanders are dead provided at least 1 stays while berserked. I imagine all berserked warriors work the same way

>>170580508
I know

I was just upset that it actually hosted and I didn't have a legitimate reason to use that image anymore, so I posted it anyway.

>>170580621
There might be another dickwad dusk elder. You never know.

>>170580508
>implying you can stop Saoluthi's time rift
Motherfucker clearly hit you with gold experience requiem.

>>170580508
FOOL

SAOLUTHI CASTS AS HE PLEASES

Which ermor even has Saoluthi The Gamebreaker anyway?

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>>170581741

>>170582069
baka!

fucking ded game

>>170582030
So, what actually likely happened was Yellow Ermor thugged out Grey Ermor's capital (which had a dusk elder named Saoluthi in it) so hard the game broke.

Specifically he was using a flesh eater to berserk the dusk elder and take the battle to turn timer, when all Grey's skellingtons would dissolve and his mages retreat. Saoluthi wasn't gonna have any of that shit, and cast TIME WARP

>>170582030
Saoluthi is of no nation. He was the last Pannenkrator.

>tfw Saoluthi tries to kill the thread just like he killed SkeletonWar

>>170588960
>tfw we won't find out for several hours whether or not he succeeded

I have an idea for the next /vg/ league. Our teams goal should be 10,000 storm demons vs 10,000 storm demons.

Please to sub or set ai Xibabby

Okay, so maybe I really do need to set Mictlan AI. such is life

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>>170590990
Vinemen versus Longdead

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Not sure if OC, but goddamn either way this deserves merit.

>>170595140
Pretty sure that's OC
tfw no qt roleplaying neighbors

>>170595140
Shit could get published. He's a better poet than Lovecraft and that fucker got famous.

>>170595140
What game?

>>170575601
Depends how much they're blobbed together.

If they're spread out I think I'd rather meld, otherwise bladewind.

I am fond of C'tis.

>warned about barbarian invasion
>doesn't happen
Can it happen a bunch of turns AFTER it has been announced?

>>170603596
It's funny because those tusks could be seen as poorly-drawn tears.
Yomi is bad, is the joke.

>>170603838
In a game I'm playing right now I got a barb alert, then 11 turns after that I got the attack.
And I had to keep an army there all that time because I didn't want to lose that 100+ income province.

>tfw in a position to win if I keep eating small guys
>paranoid that the second biggest guy decides to jump me with someone else
>diploing like mad to prevent this happening
love this game

>>170603838
40% chance to trigger per turn, if I'm reading the inspector right.

So it should trigger quickly, but it'll be a danger until it does.

>>170608237
So it's like tumblr?

>>170606850
Well it's worse for me, since I'm building a 1000g fort there. I mean usually 15PD beats barbarians, but sometimes they roll high and get like 60 which can beat your PD.

>>170608321
>tumblr
>only 40% chance to trigger per month

>>170608578
A turn on the internet is one second.

>>170608578
And it stacks.

Setting Nazca AI. Whomever was playing that was an idiot
>recruiting royal malliquis
>nothing else
>no other forts
>has a small number of supayas despite this

>>170609831
>that guy doesn't play like I want!!
>therefore I'm setting him AI
You're a giant faggot.

>>170610092
>admin is a faggot for setting a staling player AI

>>170610092
nigga he's in an unsalveageable position. If you really want to prove me wrong, then sub for him

>>170610175
Read the post again before sucking the retard's dick. Nazca didn't stale, he just played in a way Adolf Hitler over there doesn't approve of.

>>170610245
nah, you're a faggot
http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=DontStaleDesuSenpai2&action=showstales

>>170610245
Unlike you, I know how to check a staling log.

Nazca has staled twice (thrice if you count this turn where the admin had to step in).

>>170610289
>>170610348
Nice samefagging, faggot.
Don't forget to threaten to set AI anyone who stales and suddenly play right on time or anyone who doesn't play your way. Or anyone that opposes you.
In fact, why not play alone instead?

>>170610495
Nazca, you could have done your turn in the time you've spent shitposting in thread.

>>170610570
>everyone I don't like is Nazca
Okay, faggot.

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>>170610495
>gets called out on being an idiot
>muh samefag!
>muh hitler!
haha cunt

>>170610495
>less than 90 seconds between posts
>samefag
ok

>>170610638
>>170610718
>embarrassing himself like that

>>170610618
>defending some random player who staled out of a game this viciously
I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>170610751
>tearing an admin for being a retard is the same as defending a shit player
Lol okay

>>170610840
>removing a staling player is shit admin
Alright then, if you say so.

>>170610959
>implying that's the main reason
Read his post again. The retard's main reason for removing Nazca is that he doesn't play well. He only added "oh, and he's staling" afterward.

>>170611050
Because the admin posted about it just last thread, and probably assumed everyone reading it wouldn't have the memory of a goldfish.

That post is his reason for not getting a sub, the staling is why Nazca is being removed.

>>170611156
Oh, excuuuUUUuuuse me for not keeping track of every drama in existence, princess. I'm sooo sorry for not giving a fuck about retards whining about stales.

I do however care when a shit admin starts making up excuses to remove a player simply because said player doesn't play properly.

>>170611156
this desu

>>170611156
>"That post is his reason for not getting a sub"
>nothing in his post about not getting sub, just him setting Nazca AI
Lol okay. Nice retcon.

>>170611283
He was in an unsalvageable position famalamadingdong which is why there was no point in looking for a sub
thus, setting him AI was the best solution
unless you want me to let him stale into infinity?

>>170611419
No, I want you to explain yourself properly.
Calling other players "idiots" because they don't play well isn't a good attitude.

>>170611554
k, sorry senpai, won't do it again

>>170611283
>not keeping track of every drama in existence, princess
And yet you're perfectly happy to jump in and sperg out without any the context.

>>170611554
>Nazca is staling
>his position is too shit to find a sub for
>therefore he is being set AI
Which part of the above is giving you trouble?

>>170611595
Good boy.
Being an admin means having power. With great power comes great responsability. If the admin starts being rude and dismissive, it will affect the entire game, and then will spill in the thread, and eventually destroy Earth.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ElfingAround
threadly shill for Elfing around
p-please join

>>170611859

N E V E R

F U C K E L V E S

>>170612890
That one was a great game.

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>>170603596
yes

>>170612521
Never fuck elves,
of
Never, fuck elves
??

>>170597194
Fast. Sorry xib my reply was no where as good ;_;

>EA Ermor
>Trying some communions
>Elder augurs kills my augurs as they spam death magic

How do I prevent this?

>>170618284
Don't do communions with slaves without the path;
or
Cast only astral or fires spells;
or
put up Relief;
or
kill the augurs and then recruit more

>>170618438
So using path with master which slaves doesn't have kills them? I thought it was some death magic bullshit.

>>170618525

Nope. It's that if your masters cast a spell the slaves don't have, there's a giant fatigue multiplier.

>>170618525
It doesnt kill them, but the fatigue cost of bolstering spells of paths they don't have is way more high that of spells they have paths.
So it is way more easier to kill the slaves fy exaustion. If only for a spell or 2 of Death and many slaves (you will have to find the exact balance by testing) you can prevent the death.

>>170613761
Oni general/oni priest pair is better than single daioni

>>170618841
But they aren't DAI

>>170618841

What? They are very obviously not better. Dai Oni can also cast earth buffs that are vital for thugging as they give much needed reinvig. Dai Oni can access FA too.

Theyre more cost effective at best.

>>170621479
I know, I was putting wood in the fire so to speak.
But I was thinking just now.
What does a daioni really do aside memes?
They seem a bit too frail to put them into melee, even with all the buffs
They have nice paths to be battle casters but dont really bring anything other mages cant.
Skelespam: better off spamming any other mage
Banefire too
Winds: cheaper from the other too
Earth suite, but then, they are str caponly, not really amassable.
For thugging, as pointed previously, oni general are cheaper and you dont care they die.
Oni sc is very limited, its main attribute is to force your enemy to counter it specifically, which wont be hard
I want to like daioni, all the nive buffs and gimmicks, but they end up being expensive luxury

>>170622036
What the hell else are you going to do as Yomi?

>>170622181
Touché

>>170618284
Don't use Augur Elders with Augur communion slaves unless you're willing to lose the Augurs.

Even if you tell the elders to only cast fire/astral spells, once off-script they will likely spam horde of skeletons and kill your augurs.

Is there a particular reason you want them in a communion?

>>170622036
>They seem a bit too frail to put them into melee, even with all the buffs
Not sure why you'd think that.

They're a 50hp commander and after buffs they quickly regenerate fatigue and health via soul vortex, have 26+ protection to shrug off attacks, and come back to life if you somehow manage to kill them through all that.

And this is before you start adding items to tank them up further.

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Top tier roleplay strikes again!

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>>170622642
to lower fatigue of my elders so they can spam fireballs little longer.

Anyway I started a new game and started pretty good, expanded quite well but Im surrounded by hellheim, xibalba, marverni and machaka. Hellheim already declared war on my ass and others will surely follow soon. Should I just restart? There is no way I can manage 4 of them as a newbie...

>>170625209
Yeah, nevermind, there is also yomi so 5 of them.

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>>170625321
oh boy, here we go 2 rounds after.

>>170625209
Just foreign recruit flamens and give them fire jars to fireball spam.

>>170625209
>restart
Don't be a pussy. Keep playing and innovating.

>>170625638
I don't quite get what those firejars are for.. Fireball doesn't need gem as far as I know...

>>170626026
Fire elementals are what you usually use them for.

>>170626026
Most flamens only have F1 so they need one gem to cast phoenix power to F2 to cast fireball. Fire in a jar gives them one gem every battle to cast it.

>>170625209
30 PD and some archers/mages on patrolling should take care of middle sized armies.

>>170626280
You dont a gem to cast phoenix power.

>>170626543
You also don't cast phoenix power with F1.

>>170626667
Good point.

>>170626667
Don't tell me what I can or can't do, you're not my pantokrator!

>>170624691
>Xibalba gave you a quest
You have to do it now, anon

>>170628083
Fuck yeah I am. Does a conjured hero count?

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Well, I thought it would be harder. Im just kinda worried about Xibalba, those fliers are such a pain in the ass

>>170624691
Is this the new Snerdryn game?

>>170630458
Bit early for roleplay, I'd think

>>170628763
I dunno, probably? His message seems to imply that he thinks you can use a Melia to do it, but if your game just started, I doubt you have the gear for that. I also don't know how he's going to get jaguars for it to fight, since those require research and nature gems

>>170631287

He likely meant ozelotls.

>>170631504
Even more research then

>>170631287

Well, Jaguars are Conj3 and Ozzies are Blood4. Not like that's a huge hassle to get to.

I want to get in to this game but I'm shit and only know tentatively how to play EA Mictlan. are there guides or something?

>>170632376
Play Abysia and do fire spells.

>>170632376

A lot of guides were lost when Desura went down but Steam has some.

>>170632376
Sunshine, we're all shit, so don't worry. EA Mictlan's actually pretty weird to play for a newbie, but go ahead if you feel like it. Play SP, learn to expand, then jump into a new game when one comes around

>>170631863
It's turn 3

http://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/0/135511027318860737/
>1000 units and still can't take a throne

>>170634090
Many of the Desura guides were recently put up on Dom4Mods.

>>170634113
I like blood magic. I really just want an army of blood mages to make me legions of demons.

>>170634618
>EA Ulm
>1000 unit armies
>few casters so not using them

So this is the power of git gud. I didn't even consider the depth of misery some drudge in.

>>170634996
Mictlan's a great nation to do that with.

The only really weird thing you need to worry about is that you don't spread dominion naturally, so you need to make sure to have priests doing Blood Sacrifice to not get dom killed.

>>170635153
blood sacrifice is my first, middle, and last name. they also call me Mr. unrest

update the wiki, yo

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I want to create the perfect thug.
Which would be the perfect thug that LITERALLY ALONE, IN ALMOST EVERY SITUATION, would be able to 1-man kill a good army?
I'm guessing phoenix Pyre + reinvig items + some passive damage would be staple, as well as a first-turn AOE spell to get rid of blood slaves, but which chassis i wonder? Any tips?

It doesn't matter if it becomes a very late game possibility only, i'd like to create the ultimate being, one not able to lose with proper scripting and spells.

>>170638206
That's impossible, unfortunately, since any SC is counterable once you know its gear. The SCs that are hardest to kill are mindless, lifeless units with high HP and armor of virtue or Returning, but those are also relatively easy to send home and, if they're relying on Armor of Virtue to keep them safe, it's also possible to wish it away and thereby kill it reliably. If you know where they're moving, it's also possible to time them out without damaging them, and make them go poof that way (though it's a lot trickier, since even the weakest units can accidentally send it home with a 'lucky' roll)

Anything else can be dealt with efficiently with thugs geared with the appropriate counter-weapons.

>>170638206
If you mean 'can kill an army not set up to kill the SC,' then the barrier becomes much lower, but also depends on the enemy army and its script. You gear your SC (preferably one with magic phase movement) with equipment that makes it invincible against the magic that you see that their army is scripted for

>>170638206
That wouldn't be a thug, that'd be an SC you fuck, and what you're asking for is basically impossible. Dedicated anti-SC tactics can't be reasonably countered by an SC, for what I hope are obvious reasons, and how you define 'a good army' is extremely vague and reduces your entire query to a pointless argument starter with no real resolution.

Proper scripting and spells will always beat even the most well geared SC, because proper scripting and spells implies adaption, which implies the SC remains static, which implies that the SC is being actively countered, and Dominions is literally all counterplay.

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Place your bets now /domg/. Who do you think is going to win?

>>170639609
The solo commander, but only because his dying to 1 PD wouldn't be worth a post.

>>170639404
whats counter for demon legions

>>170639609
Atavi Chieftain, obviously. He's the only one smart enough to wear a hat.

>>170639685
Round 1 Demonic Cleansing + RoS x8

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>>170639651
>>170639808
so far so good

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>>170640341

>>170640572
Van scouts can kill 6PD sometimes I knew because I did it. Food for thought.

>>170640698
Did the pd contain a blessed N9W9 centaur mage-priest?

>>170640794
It contained something. I mean, you can kill 3PD provs with van scouts pretty reliably.

>>170640861
yeah but vans resort to using lame shit like, glamour, good stats and actually wearing armor while monkeys rely on nothing but their massive fucking balls

>>170629276
I want to recapture the feels I had before playing MP
SP is so bland and annoying now

can you even diplo with AI?

>>170643369
"Diplo with AI" consists of setting PD in all your provinces to 25 so it would never attack you.

How do I join games with fun roleplayers?

>>170643480
I figured

>>170644275
By joining an RP game

I'll set one up on the Steam group in a few minutes

Anyone available to set Mictlan AI for me?

>>170644913
got one

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vampire count
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>>170646505
nice

Beginner here. What's best nation if I want classic beardy wizards throwing fireballs experience?

>>170644569
>>170644275
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TheWheelHasTurnedOnceAgain

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/135511259335419182/

'ere you go

>>170647159
Bit short on beards, but Abysia is Fireballs: The Nation

If you just want to evo spam the hell out of the enemy, Arcoscephale is great at that too, since they can cast Gifts From Heaven. MA Ulm is also cool because they can drop Magma Eruptions which are fun

>>170647332
LA Man can drop thunder strikes, gifts from heaven and rain of stones. And they only have one real mage so it's simple.

>>170647159
>>170647332
Adding to that. Is it viable for any nation to fill armies with more wizards (thugs?) and less regular units? Or does every good army in D4 has to be balanced?

>>170648125
You can easily make up skeleton armies from mages. They just summon up the army in battle.

>>170648125
It Depends

Are you fighting against the AI? If yes, mageblobbing is totally fine and will kill any AI nation

Are you fighting against a human? If yes, turn 1 earthquake will make you sob long and hard

>>170648125

Having blockers is always good. Meatshields to stand between your mageline and your enemies will save you a lot of dead mages, particularly against fliers. This said! Many mages can summon stuff up in combat which works as blockers.

There's any number of tactics which can be used. The evospam mageline is fairly popular, and there do exist counters to it.

>>170647332
>Abysia is Fireballs: The Nation

Odd. I've literally never fireball spammed as them, ever. Usually its lots of elementals in a jar, and unlimited soul contract works.

You know, things that don't get shit on by the rain.

what are the best strategies for MA Mictlan?

>>170649697
t. Cirno

>>170649806
who is Crino?

>>170649875
It was an intern joke, sorry.

Eagle warriors are really good with a bless, and you will probably need blood at some point. So, how about B9-something as a bless?

>>170649806
>cirno
>playing anything other than sauro

>>170649364
What you're describing is pretty much strictly better, yes, but for fireball spam they're pretty much the go-to nation

>>170650348
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Teaching_Feeling

>>170649364
You fireball spam early game and do better stuff later.

>>170647187
Can I join this anonymously?

>>170651000
Sure, post your suggestions in this thread and I'll add them. Send in a dummy pretender to the game as well so I can keep track of you

>>170651513
I vote summod, WH, Better Arena (so basically just not ME)

desu, I'd like to wait until the settings are established before picking a nation, because summod and ME can both change the nations a bit.

>>170652441
>>170651513
Oh, wow, you put everything up to vote. One sec

Map: Something pretty. Don't much care about balance as long as it isn't retarded
Era: MA
Indie strength: 5 or 6
Hall of Fame: 15
Site Frequency: Default
Score Graphs: Off
Research: Standard or Difficult
Money: 100
Resources: 100
Supplies: 100
Random Events: Common
Story Events: On
Renaming: On
Number of Starting Provinces: 2

>>170651513
>>170647187
How about you answer me in steam?

>>170653452
g-gomen senpai

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>you expansion gets cucked by surprise indies with stronk mages and elementals

MA Mari would be a good nation if they had SLIGHT more magic diversity. Fire and astral only make a terrible combination. Debating for a friend

>>170654285
Summod gives them slight magic diversity. It isn't enough, because the only way Summod Mari wins is with unlimited tribless Flagellant works

>>170631287
I don't think there was a time limit mentioned so I'm probably safe to do the quest just as soon as possible...probably. As therodos I'm probably going to have to rely on something conjured to be able to withstand ozes/jaguars as therodos has nothing to recruit that's strong enough. Any thought on what a good thug/sc that therodos could summon for this quest?

>>170654285
Well it's canon that they only stemmed Ermor's tide by making deals with devils so of course they're shit.

>>170654285
A S T R A L
F I R E S

>>170655979
is not enough to win a game on its own, even massed

>>170655979
M R
N E G A T E S

>>170654859
If it's just one jag/ozzie, I think a melia thug should be fine if you have N9

How do you build Asphodel pretender? Asking for a friend.

it's growth 3 magic 3 at least, right? Any other scales I should bother to max? Any bless I need?

>>170657532
Mr. Negates sounds like a good name for a Dominions meme character.

>>170655979
You could just falling fires instead. It'd be better against anyone without fire resistance.

Astral fires is only useful to not totally be dicked on by Abysia.

>>170659318
Sloth 3, cold 3. Take a W9 bless at the very least, W9N9 if you're feeling dangerous. Rush mother oak, summon millions of carrion centaurs to reanimate even more plant chaff. Cry when you run out of money to recruit actually good units in lategame

>>170660494
I'm not a fan of furries but wouldn't T3L3 work on Asphodel? Since they take M3 might as well go all the way with souped events.

>>170660494
I have actually seen incredible success with an awake dom 10 recently.

Expands out the gate hard, gets a silly number of manikins that are difficult to deal with in that number, and combined with 200 gold cost temple can threaten an actual domkill on unprepared neighbors. Counters other rushes quite well too, since elite sacreds are NOT what you want fighting manikins.

>>170660686
If you want. Gold is important to them, but I guess you get it from L3 events. It's up to you.

>>170661676

Jesus man, don't fucking take Order 3 on a popkill nation.

T3S3C3L3 are core
Growth/Magic are the scales that you want but can live without.

Aspho's good magic is relatively late given that it's popkill and needs to spend gold for its researchers (alt 5 for oak, swarm, and wooden warrios and ench 6, where they have skelly spam, rigor mortis, and other fatigue stuff) so Aspho NEEDS to use its strong early game

If you're playing a large enough game, you eventually get tartarians and are actually pretty good at using them, but you need to be a biggest nation by that point.

>>170661672
or you could take 9 and use the points it would take to get to 10 to get better scales/bless and buy 5 temples.

>>170663786
Yes, but Awe 3 is actually a relevant amount against many early expansion units whereas Awe 1 generally isn't.

>>170664035
I thought it only went two at 10, and 800 gold by turn 12 should be pretty easy, since you wanted to build temples to push Dom anyways

>>170664035
How good is awe 6? Awake Ur Annunaki seems nice with all the downsides of pretender dying being annulled.

>>170664035

It depends. On a chassis with fear, the lower Awe value is fine.

>>170667719
Absolutely idiotic suggestion. Both can be one-shotted by random barbarians. The more awe the better. Fear is unreliable.

>>170622036
>What does a daioni really do aside memes?
-They're high MR, high armor, 50 HP sacred self-blessing thugs so they can very reliably pick off lightly defended provinces on their own
-Phoenix pyre combined with fatigue mitigating buffs like soul vortex, summon earth power, and an Earth bless means it will be very difficult to kill one you're caught unprepared
-High paths for forging and super-casting. One that gets an Air path can cast Rain of Stones or empowered to unlock Dai tengu. One that gets E3+ can get you dorf hammers and cast EQ. I've had a Dai oni get D5 before, so that's one easy booster away from Well of Misery.