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I almost wrote 'Honour' edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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>Tfw this game wouldn't be dying nearly as fucking fast as it is if Ubi would just fix the fucking connections and not implement retardedly broken armor
I love the game, but I don't blame people for quitting it. I can't go a night playing without several matches crashing because someone quit, or me getting dropped from one randomly.
And gear has literally made it so you cannot play new characters in 4v4 modes without getting stomped by fags with revenge gear
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>>170515515
I miss the beta boys.

Shit was poppin off as fuck.
Its a ghost town around here now.
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>>170515543
>>170515550
Haha BUY YOUR ORNAMENTS!!! HAHA
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this is the webm post

reply to this post with webms so everyone can see them
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obligatory 'post your emblems' post

also it's pretty late in NA, so I guess the amerifats are asleep and the euros don't really care for the game

or maybe everybody's too busy playing the game to shitpost
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>>170515749
What's the point of lying to yourself?
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>>170515589
what the actual fuck were they thinking? it looks like utter shit
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>nazi emblem
>doesn't 'heil' my 'sieg'
In with the jews you go
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>>170515589
Feels really shitty that their focusing on shit like adding cosmetics rather than fixing the fucking connections.
Hell I'd even be fine with them waiting to balance characters out until after they fix the connections, because the game becomes unplayable depending on the shitty host it picks.
>Tfw they had the playercount removed in the FIRST fucking patch
Not a good sign at all
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why are shugoki players the only leavers i run into?
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>>170510209
>When the orochi guards for too long in one direction without moving his mouse it looks like his guard drops and the shield disappears.
It doesn't look like the guard drops; it DOES drop. The prevailing gimmick of all assassin characters is their temporary guard. When at neutral, the assassin has no guard. When they pick a guard, the guard only lasts for roughly one second before the character returns to neutral/no guard; you can see this in the HUD, where when you pick a guard, the highlighted arrow fades from white to black.

The wording they use in-game is unclear, but that's what it means. It's why they talk about assassins having a reactive guard: they are physically incapable of maintaining a guard like the other classes and must reactively set a guard when an attack is incoming.
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>>170515543
Connections is a big pain in the ass, but I'm not sure that's why people are leaving so quickly. A big reason right now is lack of content.

Let's be honest here. The campaign sucked. It was essentially a bunch of mook killing bookended with duels that were extremely cheesy when you used abilities.
The writing was nonexistant and the dialogue was meme worthy for how shitty it was.

After you play the mode that doesn't let you choose your class you get to play the online modes.
There's 5 of those. Five. A duel mode, a double duel mode, a team deathmatch, deathmatch with no spawning, and Domination.
3 of these 5 require good gear to be successful, which in turn needs a grind. And the other two modes are just fighting a single person ad naseum.

You can see how this would get boring to the super casual player, right? You log in, do your dalies, get either gangbanged by deathball teams or 2-shotted by Revenge spammers. Rinse and repeat.
When this game aimed at the action game audience they forgot to give players more fun modes. Every game under the sun has domination in it now, that alone is not gonna cut it for entertainment.
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>>170515939
>>170515920
>I paid 70 dollars for this
[hums "Jesus Bleibet Meine Freude"]
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>>170516034
I realize you can dodge, but it's bullshit that some characters like this have endless fucking combos. I especially hate Valks shield charge
>Valk waits for me to attack
>She dodges them immediately shield charges before I have time to recover and dodge
>She knocks me down and gets a free heavy
Shit is nonsense. Especially considering there's no stopping her. Unless she's dumb and charges when I have time to dodge she can shield bash risk free, since I can't get close enough to GB her without getting bashed
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>>170515749
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>>170516117
Let me upgrade that for you senpai
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>>170516196
There a Dane Axe version of this Webm?
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>>170516034

maybe cus he was getting bored being sweep spammed? use brain not that hard
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>>170516108
To say nothing of the ins and outs of learning the system and ultimately gitting gud.

Welcome to the perennial plight of the FGC.
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>>170516260
You can dash out of the sweep for a free gb.

use brain not that hard
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>>170516194
>ayy riao

Surat.
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>>170515594
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>>170516275
>>170516108
Don't forget the ceiling. Let's not deny it's low.
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No one plays this dead ass game anymore. Now give me my (You)s, you faggots.
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>>170515543
This. I play duel modes and it's nothing but wardens, pks, and warlords. I play 4v4 and I end up bitching about gear in all chat. On top of the dropped games and super grindy feeling. honestly if it wasnt for afk farming I would have quit already
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>>170516452
I will in 6 minutes to do those orders. Then I'm gone.

But I don't think I'll be back for the next days orders.

It was fun while it lasted.

On second thought, I'm not even doing tonights orders.

I'll trawl the sub and this general for patch news

It's been cool guys
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>>170516275
Yep. If your playerbase is too small you have to resort to skilless matchmaking, which leads to "still learning how to Storm Rush" players facing up against top 5% players that will kick in the shit of the other 95%

A dying game is a rolling boulder that is hard to stop.
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>>170516389
My fuckin sides
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>>170516389
Fuck that one gets me every time. I always forget the revenge explosion before liftoff
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>>170515749
real euro hours
can't play because I'm working
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>>170515594
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why are nobushis attacks so hard for me to parry? it seems like the indicator doesnt appear as early, or she has fast attacks.

everyone says shes slow, but i cant react. even though i can parry warden top lights on reaction.
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>>170515749
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>>170516648
Nobushi's attacks are slow, but she has the longest reach in the game, and her light attacks have a small profile so they're not as easy to read.
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>>170516548
just went against a law-bringer that parried every single attack I threw (including lights) and countered every guard break. Oh yeah and he never fell for feints ether.
This is what happens when a company turns a profit on preorders alone. They have no incentive to continue development after they make their money back
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>>170516730
(so the playerbase dies because of shit networking and noobs get put up against pros)
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>>170516730
That was probably me.
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How do you counter 2 Shugoki's charging at you on a narrow bridge?
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>>170516730
Actually, Ubisoft has been very transparent about trying to fix everything that everyone is complaining about, including the defensive meta.
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Anybody else encounter this? I just want my orange color, mang.
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>>170516398
Yeah. This game more than any other you can feel the artificial constraints put on the players ability to fight.

The moves are so slow in a lot of instances they're parried 100% of the time by middling skill players.
The guarbreak system is too easy to react to, while at the same time you have duel maps absolutely littered with instant death traps that punish aggressive play even more.

Something's gotta give on the stranglehold defensive play has on the game right now. It's too easy to play the wait and punish game over launching your own offensives
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>>170516820
You don't put yourself in that situation.
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>>170516881
ubisoft says a lot of things
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>>170516893
Yes, it bugged out for a lot of players when the servers went kaput last week. Dusk and Storm are locked colors, even though everyone should have them at the start of the game. There's a thread on the official forums about this issue.
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>>170516727
it seems like as soon as i see the indicator its already flashing to parry. ive been dueling one for like 10 mins and hes not even good. its just every light he does cant be punished because i always get hit if i try to parry
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>>170515594
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>>170515749
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>>170516881
except the bit where they claim that p2p is better than dedicated servers. I don't know a lot about netcode but this sounds like bullshit
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>>170516108
It's the connections on top of that as well. The 4v4 modes are a massive grind fest, and you can expect about 1 out of every 4 games to either crash, drop someone, or have rage quitters because there's zero punishment for people leaving.
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>>170516981
Fighting games do this all the fucking time, bruv. And by last accounts, For Honor is a fighting game (albeit not in the most conventional of appearances).
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>tap an assassin in the head like 50 times till he dies
holy shit lb is funny
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>>170515749
obligatory
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>>170517053
tfw dont have a family crest
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>>170517028
name another "fighting game" that is 4v4? Having 8 people playing p2p is different than having 2 people
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>>170517053
What if it's a Macintosh Plus: Lisa Frank 420 black and pink checkered emblem?
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>>170516548
Also youre not factoring in gear score. If anybody picks up this game next month they will get raped by better players with op gear and there is literally nothing they can do but either get scrubed for 20 hours until they hit rep 3 or somehow git gud and beat people who duel
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>>170517053
>>170517098
tfw its a leg
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>>170517053
>tfw no Fleur-de-li
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>>170517145
This. At the very fucking least we need servers for the 8 player modes
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>>170516959
plz help. for some reason i stuggle with her. her lights seem way faster than orochis. and i just parried the shit out of a peacekeepers lights, whats up with her animations or indicator? it was longer than a peacekeeper but i couldnt block it
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>>170515921
Terrible Nazi emblem
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>>170515920
Actually it looks interesting, BUT it looks like utter shit attached to a helmet. Unfortunately, thats the problem of majority helmets and ornaments in the game.

I dont use any ornaments on my shug, because neither of them fit well with any of the masks.
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>>170516306
its not so easy with shug

I play shug and nobu and with shug its just harder to deal with for whatever reason, fucker is too slow
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How do you make the eye so small? I have some weird suneye going on

pls halp
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so i figured out that you can still get grabbed if you hit grab right before their grab hits you. i guess there are startup frames before the startup frames?
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>>170517145
Are you having lag issues?
People are still bitching about P2P but it hasn't caused me any troubles in 150 hours played.
I fought maybe 2 guys who were lagging so much they were skipping animations and teleporting around but they were probably dropping packets like crazy.

I have a shit tier internet with an minimum ping of 30 and the P2P thing has been working perfectly for me so far, while server based online play can be really hit or miss ping wise.
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>>170517371
Onyx bull is the only acceptable ornament
>>170517531
It feels crazy hard to dodge the sweep as shugo. Usually I dodge the shieldbash or block an attack to end the combo.
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>can't change name to rectumragnarok
>because rectum is apparently an "offensive word"

It's literally a part of your body.
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>mfw no one plays Kensei any more on console since his scrubby guardbreak thing was fixed
Thank you Jesus
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should they fix feinting lights?

as in option selecting into a zone attack?

not sure if its option selecting but its the same inputs as one
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Can post emblems? I need an idea for designs because mine really sucks.

And no I'm not really using a Swastika lol
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raider buffs when
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>>170518110
How do you feint lights?
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>>170517786
bascialy what im trying to say is. theres a window between the normal tech time, and the patched tech time where you will get grabbed.

its when your guy starts to make a move to grab, maybe like 20 frames.

i would post a webm but im on xbox and i am not giving away my gamertag to a I-kiribati banking consortium
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>>170516893

Reset your customization my dude. Color will still be locked but you have it by default
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>>170517938
>scrubby guardbreak thing
?
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>>170518487
Lagmaster Kenseis on console could do an infinite guardbreak and light attack loop on you with no escape whatsoever.
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>>170518346
theres a way someone posted above, but im talking about using the games input leniency with zone attacks so it looks like an attack is coming one direction, then you hit heavy for it to cancel into a zone attack.

it also works by canceling two part zone attacks i think, for some reason people always fall for it
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>captain vortex remarks how "skillful" shugoki's demon embrace is
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ufqwerE-tw
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>>170518585
>vortex meme
stop
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How does /fhg/ feel about fem Conqueror? Pic unrelated.
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>>170518585
it is if you read a heavy attack and armor through it for the grab.
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>>170516893
>>170516957
If you want to use them, use the "cleanup" option in character customisation. It resets the color options too, which will give you dusk for attacking and storm for defending.
>inb4 i misstyped some of the names
Im on phone, don't judge.
Hope this helps those who didn't know.
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How would you change Berserker? General QoL upgrades, or additional moves? Faster frames?
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>>170517334
I really like yours but it's slightly off-center and it bothers me a lot. The background and swastika should be moved up a bit.
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>>170518782
It's not. the circle is the centerpoint of the background, which was the only way to get a swastika on circle with another background color.
It's just weird being on an actual shield.
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>>170518782
edgy. even your emblem border looks kinda sharp around the edges
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>>170518715
something to open up defence players like quick drop kick or some shit
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>>170518782
SINGLE MAN WHO MASTURBATES TO ANIME
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>>170517237
mines a red x
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Lmao ded game
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How does /fhg/ feel about Chivalry or (upcoming) Mordhau?
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>>170519032
Mordhau looks like it was made before Morrowind with a somehow worse combat system.
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>>170519090
Nice counterbait faggot.
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>>170518637
This. A shogoki with good timing and hyper armor ready is a fucking challenge.
But then again I almost always go to GB them to get rid of the armor
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>>170519118
>MUH MORROWIND
Okay we all know it's the best ESO game because it's the one normies are scared of but the combat is fucking awful.
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>>170515550
Yeah my friend and I played the beta all day, now we don't at all. This fucking "attack first and get fucked" meta that was eventually figured out is just complete aids.
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>>170518613
What hero are you going to switch to after they remove it?
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liking the whole outfighter vibe im getting with peacenigger
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>>170519090
HOW DARE YOU
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>>170519032
played 1800 hours of chivalry and mordhau looks like itll be another >600 hours of fun

NEXT QUESTION!
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>>170519169
Mordhau doesn't have Morrowind-like diceroll combat idiot, it's like a much better Chivalry.
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How does the renown system work?
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>>170515550
>ghost town
what the fuck are you talking about ?
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>>170519398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00LH4vsun-k
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>Get on for the first time in a few days.
>Actually having fun, close duels for like an hour.
>Finally fight someone who is playing full turtle meta.
>Instantly remember why I quit playing for a few days.
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>>170516461
>>170516108
>>170515543
>>170516452
>PLEASE DIE PLEASE DIE , IS IT DEAD YET ?
GUYS ? GUYS ?
lmao
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>>170519404
not necessarily a ghost town but 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 are always at low to medium activity which makes for some extremely shit tier matchmaking where new players just get stomped and cause the queues to become even more ded. the game right now is doing a horrible job at retaining new/low tier players as even if you go play dominion you get fucked by gear difference
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>>170516452
If you want you's you should spam this garbage in /dsg/
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is there a glitch to not fall when your thrown when out of stamina? happened to me twice in an hour where i threw someone in brawl when they were exhausted and they didnt fall.

one was orochi who fell but instantly flipped back up, and a berserker who didnt fall at all
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>>170519547
just leave vs. turtlers
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>>170519602
>the game is le dead meme
Nah fuck off
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>>170519553
>Acknowledging the game has problems is wanting it to die
I want this game to live, but pretending the problems are fucking massive is not the way for that to happen.
I can't go a few hours playing without several games crashing on me, my team being dropped, me being dropped, or not being able to connect with a friend happening. That is not fucking acceptable and they need to fix it
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>>170519631
But the people that play like that are also the people that take joy in print screening you leaving and sending it to Ubi support.
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>>170519661
are you just being a cunt for no reason or did you just conveniently skip over my points? i said the game isn't a ghost town but the shit match making isn't helping
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>>170519676
then add something to ruin their screenshot

like saying "if you're going to turtle then theres literally no difference between fighting me and the bot im about to give you"
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>LE DEAD GAME DEDU GEMU DED GAME DED THREAD
>PLEASE GIVE ME (YOU)'S
you are so pathetic and alone
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>>170519676
And? There's no punishment right now for leaving, and you won't be punished for leaving until they implement punishments, which will not be done until they fix the fucking connection issues.

Oh and funny enough they are literally blaming the connection issues on rage quitters, not themselves
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I usually only play Duels, but for fucks sake is camping a spawn fun in Dominion
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>>170519705
Matchmaking is perfectly fine you CUNT
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>>170519737
Yeah there's no system for punishments right now, but in other Ubi games screenshots sent to Ubi can and often do get people banned.

Until they have a firmer stance on the issue I'd rather not take chances.

And it's not like turtles are unbeatable. Like sure if they're actually way better than you they are, but on a normal level you can still just throw them off cliffs or find the one thing they suck at. They're just boring, annoying, drawn out shit shows of a fight.
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>>170519790
>dominion constantly has matches where 108 gearlords are paired against new players
yeah okay. you're a cunt and retarded too apparently. that or a paid ubisoft shill
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>>170515749
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I really wish I didn't buy this game.
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>>170519306
Nobody even needs mordhau when Mount and Blade 2 is THIS close to coming out
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>>170519881
Honestly just wait a while. R6S sucked at launch but it's at least fun now. Still pretty garbage in a lot of ways, but fun.
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>>170519908
nah taleworld got coup'd its never comin out
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>>170519856
>shill in general
retarded cunt
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>>170519856
Maybe they aren't new players and are just using another character
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>>170519676
>people can't leave a match they aren't enjoying and deserve to be banned for it
Jesus
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>>170519881
I actually tried returning it but steam wouldn't let me because I played story and clocked in at 4 hours even though I played the multiplayer for maybe 1. Fuck.

So I just played it because it'd be a waste of money otherwise.
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>>170519613
It's a bug where assassins can move their guard around rapidly when they're thrown, and they won't fall
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>>170519881
Then why are you here you fucking nigger cunt HUH HUH
I bet you are the cunt that spams the game is le dying
kill yourself faggot
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>>170520007

You just a quitter
And you bitter cause I came along
And the days of House of Pain are gone
And if you talk about my little girl in a song again
I'mma kill you, I'mma kill you
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>>170520002
>implying that justifies the massive gear difference
It wouldn't be such a big deal if revenge wasn't activated in 1 vs 1 in seconds and killed you in 2 hits
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>>170520007
Welcome to multiplayer games, jackass.
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>>170520079
Wow so poetic
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>>170520097
Leaving a ranked match, sure. But considering this is duels and fights are very hit and miss (usually miss) and encourage the worst aspects of the game to flourish, leaving isn't really a problem. The person who was winning still gets their points and their challenges done, they just want to brag "HURR THIS GUY QUIT CUZ HE'S BAD".
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>>170520097
They don't not get a win. People that are quitting a lot aren't going to be farming high winrate, like that even matters. All that happens is the person who leaves gets to get into a potentially enjoyable match faster and not have to sit through 10 minutes of shit they hate.
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>>170519908
>Bannerlord
>Coming out
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>>170519908
>being delusional
iktf
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i really like 4v4 game modes but i get out geared by so much because i haven't played this game as much as others.
forget even trying a new character in these game modes
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>>170520369
rubber band your controller and farm 2v2 vs AI while your asleep.

4v4 can be fun once you're geared up.
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>>170519790
>Can't play for an hour without some games crashing or players getting dropped
>Can't play new characters in 4v4 modes because I'll get paired with people who have perfect gear and it gives them revenge in 4 blocks, and then they can two shot me
>Every now and then can't group up with my friends
>One person ragequitting in a 4v4 mode can crash the game
I know you're shitposting now, because no one is this retarded
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Wow my rep1 shugoki just beat a rep8 warlord...
the dude just kept going to attack me after he let me get my hyper armour kek dominion babies are fucking shit.
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THEY ARE FINALLY FIXING THE MEMORY LEAK
"Exactly what was posted above, we've identified the cause of this problem and have it scheduled to be resolved in the next PC hotfix (exact timing coming soon). We'll also keep you posted on the status of the issue on PS4 (scheduled to be fixed in the next patch). Thanks for sending your feedback and reporting the issue."
TWO WEEKS LATER THEY FINALLY ARE DOING IT
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>>170520419
i can do alright with my 140 gear warden but i can only play warden so much

can i get reported for this kinda stuff?
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>>170520027
ok, just before i checked this, i hit the trifecta, a peacekeeper didnt fall.
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>>170520637
maybe it's an assassin only thing? i've never seen this happen, so i dunno
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I'M SO FUCKING TIRED OF ATTACKS GOING THROUGH MY GUARD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170520628

>can i get reported for this kinda stuff?
Yes
But honestly I have 9, soon 10 rep1 characters and it was never that much of a problem to level up. Just play dominion, nobody gives a fuck there usually. Guard a point and ring the alert when necessary
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>>170520628
Yes.

First you get a warning,

then you get a suspension for some time,

then you get a permanent ban.

So either play the game, or fuck off.
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>>170520601
>exact timing coming soon
you missed the only important thing in that statement
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>>170520791
what
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>>170520728
>Dominion
Also skrmish for orders, people already feel like they have lost just because they have to play this mode. I never got bitched on for gray gear there
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Kensei can counter valks sweep with his zone attack's armor
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>>170520786
whoa there fella. you okay, buddy? simple question. was considering but if i can get banned for it i won't.
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>>170520601
Is this the bug when you freeze/lag for about 1 second ?
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>>170518634
Mai waifu
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So how would you guys feel if the revenge system reworked gear-wise in that instead of increasing damage or duration or gain, it would give you perks to your revenge mode instead? Like your base revenge gives the parry on activation but the effects afterward was determined by what you equipped on your gear. Kinda like feats but for your revenge.
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>>170521089
na i like my broken shugoki revenge
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>>170521086

No, it's that when you have the game on for longer amounts of time, the performance of the game and the computer just slowly shits itself.
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>>170521086
no, its the bug when you crash every round in duels, and every 5 minutes in other game modes, cause game suddenly decides to use all 32 gig of your ram in a second
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>>170520628
You can, but currently they don't have an automated system for it. If you join one, play a few games until whoever you're paired with leaves, then do it it's basically a zero percent chance. I've never seen another person join the match after your partner leaves.
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>>170519862
what is this a reference to
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>have two of the same "Complete 5 Elimination Matches as an Assassin" orders
>play PK because she's the only one I have unlocked and I only really play Knights
>I wouldn't be playing this cunt otherwise
>faceroll absolutely and say how I hate PK and that she's broken
>other team is calling me a scumbag when their PK is just mashing lights while I'm actually trying to use all of her tools and not abusing AoE
>explain to them that I hate PK more than anyone and that I'm only using her for challenges
>"you're a fucking dick dude, neck yourself"
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>>170521256
a dog?..
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>>170521309
>she's the only one I have unlocked
you don't need to unlock other heroes to play them
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>>170521256
It's just my pupper. I really can't think of anything creative with only 5 layers.
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>>170521309
>Trying to excuse playing PK for any reason at all.
Absolute scum
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>>170521478
nice dogger
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>>170520027
>It's a bug where assassins can move their guard around rapidly when they're thrown, and they won't fall
So that's it holy shit I thought I was doing something wrong.
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>>170515749
>tfw family name literally means nobly halberd
>family sigil is a swole af helmet
looks like I'm a natural born lb main
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Do you get a free gb after deflecting with orochi?
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>>170521309
>Doing the duel order as level 1 PK; no idea what I am doing
>Undefeated still
I am able to beat PKs like 60% of the time so I kinda just imagine what a PK should do to defeat my usual me, that works. Playing PK truly requires no effort at all though. The bitching is justified. With your eyes closed and one arm up your ass you can be just as dangerous as some lower tier classes when the player is on the top of his game.
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>>170521697
Depends on the character you're parrying as always, if they're too far you don't get shit.
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>>170521724
i was just in a brawl with 2 super noobs. one was a pk who was doing raw heavies.

i just kept parrying them until she tried lights, and even against a superscrub who didnt know aout her dash attacks or how to bleed, i couldnt block most of them
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>>170520725
is it really the case? I thought I was just imagining things
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>>170521471
Well Berserker is garbage and Orochi is just a worse PK.
>>170521504
Yeah, I absolutely hate her. I like her design but nobody actually uses all of her tools, just mash lights and AoE cancel in revenge.
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Who the fuck thought daily quests that take two hours to complete, with one hour being boring bot matches, was a good idea?
I dont need the steel, but I've been conditioned to complete dailies if they are available.
Now I play two games of skirmish shit and afk in bot matches and stop playing afterwards, because that shit sucks the fun out of the game.
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how come i can never hit the follow up stab with a headbutt as a warlord?
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>>170520002
A good player with no gear against a good player with a lot of gear is still unbalanced as fuck.
Any class with full attack can remove at 40% of your HP with a heavy at worst.
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>>170521964
>4v4 orders for a class you have zero gear for
The worst.
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>>170521951
It's real. I couldn't tell you whether it's because of lag or not, but regardless, it's fucking annoying.

I'm on PS4 so whenever I suspect it of happening, I record it and go back and watch it, just to see if it happened, or if my reactions were off. 9/10 times, my reactions are fine, and it goes through my guard.
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>>170521954
>Berserker is garbage

Feel free to back up that claim.
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>>170522131
because ur mashing
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>>170522279
He's good with gear and feats but everyone in the game is. He doesn't have enough to get in other than endlessly feinting attacks and hoping to get a hit in. You have to play scummier than other assassins or just lose.
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>>170522279
Beserker is garbage, friend.
Doesn't matter he's best regardless
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>>170521724

Eh I dunno I got defeated 2:3 by a very experienced lawbringer that was fast enough to block the light attack somehow
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How do I open up shugoki who techs every GB as kensei? He just stands there like a smug fat fuck he is and doesn't react to feints.
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>>170521724
I lose a shitload with my PK, I don't know what I am doing wrong. I am more successful with other classes
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>>170515749
Deus Vult
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>>170522504
warlord and pk are the only 2 classes in the game that even have a chance at opening up a good turtler
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>>170519032
mordhau is just chivalry all over again, it looks nice.

but so did war of the roses and that didn't change shit that no one wants a first person game over a 3rd person.
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>>170519032
Played Chiv for couple houndred hours
was fun at first but i hate all the "deep" gameplay that revolves around all the stupid bugs the devs refuse to fix.
And Mordhau is pretty much going the same way.
Would prefer them to fix\rework the bugs and change it into either jedi or some weaboo samurai, cause that bug shit is broken and looks retarded like the fucking prequels.
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>>170522529
I lose a LOT more as peacekeeper than with my conqueror for example.
The light attack spam only really works when you are paired with noobs. But those are becoming rarer and rarer as the game dies
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>>170523036
high level players cant parry pk most of the time
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>>170523283
>parrying 18f zone attack over netplay
yea nah
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>>170523283
Happens to me in duel alot but those people really only do duels all day I guess, that's too boring for me
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>>170523313
so yea or nah?
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>>170523313
id actually be really really interested to see how this game plays on LAN
surely with a game this tight it'd completely alter balance, no?
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>>170523354
youre too predictable
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I'm having fun with the customization aspect, ever since I found out I can make any piece of gear match the look of other pieces of gear of equal level.

It's definitely nice to be able to nail a certain look your class is going for.
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>>170523438
Who deosn't expect a PK to spam light at any second though
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>dueling a rep 5 roach named "iHonorYourMom"
>win in the first round without taking a single hit
>"Good Fight!"
>player has left the session

why is it so satisfying beating down on roaches? I probably wouldn't care if it were any other class
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>>170523418
other than occasional desync nothing would change
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I want to wrap a fishing line around the neck of the person who decided to make a video on how easily an Orochi can shit on a Berserker at any given time, if you as much as miss a single hit.
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>>170523456
Spooky
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>>170523490
>why is it so satisfying beating down on roaches?
For me it's because they were my fucking bane when I was only starting, couldn't understand what THE FUCK they were doing.
Crushing them now feels like revenge. It is a good feeling.
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>>170523492
you dont think frame and parry windows would be much different/easier to hit?
i feel like peacekeeper light/zone spam would actually be hit pretty hard by LAN
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How do I git gud with Kensie? He looks baller as fuck but I can't seem to get the best out of him. I know you're meant to feint but that seems pretty useless against assassins or classes with fast attacks as they just hit me with lights while I'm doing it.
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>>170523456
the double skulls look dumb honestly
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>>170523490
Roach mains are normally missing a chromosone
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>>170523552
you feint a defensive player not an offensive one
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>>170523553
fun as hell*
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>>170523614

>a defensive player
>needing to react in for honor
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>>170523614
What do you with offensive ones then, just parry I expect...
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>>170523552
>you're meant to feint but that seems pretty useless against assassins or classes with fast attacks as they just hit me with lights while I'm doing it.
You're meant to feint the third hit in the combo and if you're consistently getting it when doing the top hit do a side heavy instead it has armor.
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>>170523535
Link to the video? I'm a zerker main
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>>170523490
you know people are also crashing a lot when the round ends
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>>170523726
>just parry I expect...
or block or side dodge light attack or do the top light it's very fast and stuffs a lot of other hits if they don't have armor.
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>Symbol on chest and back
>It's mirrored on the back
Why the fuck
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>>170523551
game doesnt work like that, they would be the same
defenders advantage
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>>170523764

I'm simply assuming there's a video. Basically, if you as much as miss a spinning light, or if they're really good - a normal light, they have enough time to backstep-anime dash-double top-light you every single time. And there's been a massive increase of people doing that in the last couple of days which fucks over Berserkers so goddamn much.

Hell, if you try to light, and they time it right, they can dodge every single attack with that and punish you.
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>try a new hero out in duel
>face people on their mains on a new hero
This is really fun fighting pk mains and other with my rank 4 valk/berserker. Why does every game have to be made by people 0 understanding of how a game should work?
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>>170523947
I always follow up every dodge attack on roaches and pk with a feinted heavy, so I have time to react to their inevitable dodge attack, and then either parry it or block into GB. They both just do way too much damage compared to Beserker to do anything but play really reactionary.
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>renown is a clusterfuck

I totally didn't know that classes got different renown for doing different things

https://youtu.be/00LH4vsun-k
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>>170524083

>Choose level 1 PK for duel order because lol
>Fight rep 3 PK
>Win
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>>170523947
yea its not fucking fair, and then you just try orochi to see whats up and you rake in easy wins all day, what thefuck
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>>170524083
>try out warden
>fight multiple rep3+ wardens
>still BTFO them with basic fundamentals, copying their combos

do you really have a problem fighting mirror matches like that?
there really isnt le deep mechanic they'll dumpster you with.

the game is super basic
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>>170519547
>>170519631
>>170519676
If you're having trouble against turtle players work on your mix up. Everyone who plays a game loves taking screenshots of idiots who leave because "baw this guy isn't playing fair," or whatever the fuck faggot reason you use to justify quitting a proper match.
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>>170524234
people that say this actually have never gone against a real, mechanically sound turtler
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>>170524231
The difference is when you are still learning the mechanics like when a GB is a confirm and such or learning what your frames are like.
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>matchmaking goes to all game modes
what the fuck? Am I the only one that gets this? It only started yesterday. Is the game dead? Am I blacklisted or something? I didn't think this game had a softban
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I'm having real trouble fighting this big nigger because of his stupid Hyper Armour that makes absolutely no sense. Sometimes I hit him and it staggers him, other times it doesn't and it seems completely random. What am I supposed to do?
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Is Shugoki the best hero for farming rage?

I swear every other match i either make someone ragequit after a 1shot backbreaker or they spent the whole time typing calling me a no skill faggot or something because they lost duel to the fatman
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>I leave for two days
>the nights get pushed right back again

cmon niggers
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Holy shit Raiders can be extremely annoying opponents if you fight a slow class. Not fun to fight, just annoying as fuck. And in the end they lose anyway.
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I love Orochi
t. Reptar 5 orochi.
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>>170524706
Flee.

For real though, fighting a good shugoki that turtles is worse than fighting warlord imo.
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>>170524760
>I enjoy spamming unblockables until you get hit :) : the character.
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>>170524731
>use character that hard counters most low tiers and has a bunch of bullshit problems
>play like a scumbag
>"heh why are these people getting so mad?"
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>>170524790
Like I respect the Orochi mixups but fuck me are you guys annoying as fuck to fight.
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>>170524793
Because I play as Conq every attack I have is telegraphed for 6 years apart from my lights, but to kill a Shiggy with lights takes like 30 hits.
I can't shield meme because muh hyper armour.
The only thing I can do is occasionally Wall™ the fucker but doing that today somehow allows him to insta-GB me for no apparently reason. I don't get it.
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>>170524520
http://steamcharts.com/app/304390
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>>170524706
He has hyper armour when he's flashing white. GB breaks hyper armour even if he counter gbs. I comes back in 2 seconds or so. Spam GBs and catch him offguard by spamming lights or feinting heavies after this.
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>>170515749
>>170516194
>>170516326
help how do
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>>170524858

>play like a scumbag

Every assassin and every char with a DoT is more scummy by design I actually come at people and try to kill them i don't turtle

They are just bad and i'm better and it makes them angry
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>>170524928
>the game has enough players so that no one has trouble finding a match regardless of time of day
>the game does not have enough players to make anon feel good about himself
>the game is dead

ok
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>>170524928
kek
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>>170525016
Seems to me Scrubokis are the saltiest players when they lose though.

REMINDER that your character is -LITERALLY- broken and should be d/qed until fixed.
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>>170517237
The fuck is this supposed to be? A padlock?
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>>170524858
Fuck off, Shugoki is nearly a 1 trick pony, any person who can muster up the mental fortitude to buy a game, install that game, and then fit a controller into his own hands should be able to at least put up a fight against any half-decent shugoki.

You can bet your last dollar that anyone bitching about a shugoki is a scrublord. They're either eating obvious heavies/unblockables, or they're standing still while he's charging. Or, even better, they can't parry, and are going up another player who can, which means the character they're fighting doesn't even fucking matter, cuz they'd lose to any character under the same circumstances.
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Best stats combos to go for on the Lawman?

I have achieved what the God of Repeating Digits set for me to do. Reputation 3.
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>>170525156
ur moms a one trick pony...kid
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>>170515939
yes because a 3D artist can fix connection bugs.
ffs use your brain before posting.
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>>170525081

>slowest movespeed in the game
>every other character can attack twice in the time it takes for him to move his slow ass
>has a bunch of slow as fuck telegraphed moves that are really strong but you have to be braindead to not see them coming

i dunno man sounds like if you lose to the fatty you probably deserved it, seems pretty shit to m
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>>170525172
Forgot proof of accomplishment.
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Am I what you would call /cancerous/ lads?
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>>170525205
>Paying a 3D artist to add in more cosmetics not even a month after the game was released rather than using funds to fix the fucking connections
They're allocating resources to stupid cosmetic shit when they should be putting it elsewhere
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Do you get blue gear at Rep 1 or Rep 2
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>>170520786

got 3 day suspension with no prior warning for afk farming 3 rep levels
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>>170525236
>One hit kills
>Hyper Armour
>Broken throw attack that does x2 damage (already does nearly 1/2 health of every character without being glitched)
>Unblockables
ho ho ho
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>>170525318
1
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>>170520786
>>170525330
I'm curious, did you buy steel? I bought steel and I got a warning.
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>>170525310
Anyone with revenge armor is cancer, so by default everyone is because in order to compete with revenge armor fags you have to have it yourself.
Even I think revenge armor is bullshit but I use it so I can stand a chance against others with it
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>>170525310
You should have minimum revenge duration so you can keep dropping revenge every 4 seconds. People just run away when you pop revenge anyway so you should be trying to get as much uptime as possible. And Max out defense. Attack only gives a 4% difference either way while defense can help you survive multiple more overhead r2s
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>>170525425
Good call, thanks my nigga
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>>170525374

got gold version on PC and deluxe on PS4, have probably bought around 250-300k steel in total across both platforms
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>>170517053
My family! My people! My history!!

is copyrighted
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>>170525497
The only thing I need is a guard with no throw distance and good revenge gain by injury. Other than that this is pretty much best in slot gear since revenge is the only thing anyone can stat for
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>>170525425
Should I sacrifice stamina cost reduction for more defense and attack?
And does exhaustion recovery and debuff resistance helmets exist?
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>>170525339

>bad
>im bad
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>>170525317
Those funds were already allocated to post-release DLC long before the game even was finished you fucking idiot.

You're talking about a giant multi-national corporation's business practices, from the perspective of an ignorant and entitled consumer. You don't know dick. Fuck off. The only connection errors I've had were from people quitting, or in 4v4s when one or two players were 3rd world scumbags on dial up.
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>>170525516
Knowing Ubi, you'd think they'd let people that pay for steel would get a free pass. I afk farmed for 3 days straight with closed matchmaking.
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>>170525618
Depends on the class. If you play a class with shit stamina management you should go into stam. I still go into defense because taking even 1 r2 could make all the difference
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>>170525756
>>170525618
I forgot. Forget about the attack stat. Like I said its only a 4% difference either maxed or minimum. The only attack stat that matters is revenge attack which you should always max out
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I know lawman is trash tier but he's the only character I can have fun with. What is wrong with me?
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I wonder how this will go
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>>170525870
Nothing. There'd be something wrong with you if you can't enjoy something unless it's strong
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>>170525807
I think I got it
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>>170525729

i didn't use closed matchmaking, did it in regular Player vs AI during night when i slept, probably got reported a few times

what i don't understand is why i got a straight up suspension when there are people who have afk farmed way more than me and have only gotten warnings

i don't mind the punishment i got, but slightly bewildered by the differential treatment
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>>170525583
my shitty re-creation of my own name's crest
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>>170525903
Throw him off a ledge for me
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>>170525903
[keks externally]
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>>170525949
Stamina cost reduction is mainly for classes with vortexes because that means you might get to fit two more cycles in there. At least that's how it was when I tested Valk. The only thing on there I'd personally change would be to swap debuff resistance and exhaustion recovery, defense and stamina cost, revenge defense and gain by defense but all of those are due to personal preference.
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>>170526035
typical
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>>170525983
probably you got reported and the others were just tracked
>>
>Dude named War.Lord gets mad after losing as an alt in elimination.
>"rematch ill rape u"
>Goes 108 prestige 6 Warlord.
>Proceeds to lose to my level 2 Orochi.

Never underestimate the power of salt.
>>
>Know PK is OP
>Do nothing but lose as her, literally more than with my lawbringer
I wish I played her when people were new, people have adapted too much
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>>170525983
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>>170526403
>people have adapted

no, you're just trash
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>>170526403
I have a 66% winrate with the law and that's all I've played while being bad at this game, you gotta step up sempai.
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>que duel
>it's either conq or warlord episode
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>>170526627
My winrate as LB is similar. But I can't into pisskeeper at all.
>>
>Roaches arrow
HOW THE FUCK HAS THIS SHIT MADE IT INTO THE GAME
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>>170519790
>win 10/1 games in duels
>Most people I go against get 3 - 0ed and aren't a challenge

Duel matchmaking === broken
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>>170526627
>tfw warden
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>>170526828
Nobody is impressed
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>>170526852
All I wanted was a (You)
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>>170526632
>Getting a warlord opponent as the law
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>>170525903
>Lamenters
Acceptable
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>>170524140
Read their movelists. It explicitly tells you what that character likes to do in order to garner renown. In fact, it's the very first thing listed in their passives.
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>>170525648
>works on my machine!
Meanwhile we have people all over the internet, here, other sites, and the ubisoft forums complaining that the connections are fucking broken.

I have green fucking NAT and can't play for a few hours without several games crashing, players getting dropped, and sometimes even ONE player leaving ends the match.
This shit is fucking unacceptable
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>>170526828
>50% duel win ratio as Warden
LOL
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>>170527072
I know, dude is goldbricking.
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>>170525729
Nah, man. Devs don't care how much you bought if you still get banned for being a fuck. See: LoL, CS:GO.
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>>170527072
>doing duels
Nah fuck that, haven't done those since I was rep 1
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>>170527176

I do them for orders, nothing else. At this point people bitch and moan at anything you do when you won.
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>>170527176
And? You're still complete shit at them if you got 50% as one of the best characters in the game
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>>170527274
>best characters in the game
>this meme again
t. shitter
>>
I've got conq and berserker to rep 1 now. I feel like picking up a third class, but have no idea which to choose after those two.
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>>170527318
>Lightning fast overheads/overhead parry
>Lightning fast zone attack that has range for miles
>Vortex that the only counter to is to roll away
>Not one of the best characters
Are you afraid if you admit he's top tier he's gonna get nerfed?
>>
>love the design of PK and her fun deflect combos + counterattacking skills
>nobody plays her like this and just mashes light attacks and AoE cheese, then dodge away, even at high levels
>get compared to these fags when I just like playing slippery stabby character
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>>170527469
Sounds like you need to gid gud lad
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>>170527318
Warden isn't broken tier like PK, Conq, and Warlord but he's incredibly strong. I'd say he's the solid pick for 4th best character with his mixup potential and crushing counterstrike.
>>170527469
Most Warden players get blown up if you know how to counter the cheese, and it's really hard to get in without those tools.
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>>170527584
I can handle Warden just fine, that doesn't negate the fact that's he's high tier as fuck though.
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>>170527464
Raider is top fun
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>>170526995
>Meanwhile we have people all over the internet, here, other sites, and the ubisoft forums complaining that the connections are fucking broken.

And most of them are teenagers, idiots, foreigners, and the tech-illiterate. Consensus means nothing.

>I have green fucking NAT and can't play for a few hours without several games crashing, players getting dropped, and sometimes even ONE player leaving ends the match.

OH.

STOP THE PRESSES.

Boo fucking hoo. You can't play for HOURS with out "several" games crashing. Cry me a fucking river. 20 fucking years ago I played games with 300ms as standard latency through a goddamn phone line. Fuck off you fucking coddled cuck.
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>>170524354
Okay so you're complaint isn't actually against "turtlers," but is in fact against "people who are good at the game." You know what that means, right?



git gud
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>>170527685
Yes, several as in up in the tens.
>Dude everyone complaining about this problem is just wrong, the connection for the game is perfect!
You're fucking retarded. Games should not be crashing all the time in a fucking $60 game.
One person leaving the game should not crash it for the remaining 7. There's literally no defending this, and you're a fucking retard for insisting that the problem is made up even though the majority of people are complaining about it.
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>>170527747
Not him, but there's really no defending how strong turtling is right now. A turtle who doesn't fall for faints and can tech GBs is near unstoppable.
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>>170527639
Top fun, bottom tier.
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>>170525156

Lets completely and very intentionally slip around the point that his light is as fast as an assassin's light, which can be confirmed into a headbutt that eats your stamina like crazy.
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Best waifu for a male Warden?
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>>170528212
Female Kensai
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>>170528291
Fucking this.
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>>170527629
>PK, Conq, and Warlord
>forgetting valk and shugoki
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This just happened lads
Do you think he quit or was disconnected
https://youtu.be/pNb1sL7AHLY
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>orochi goes
>you suck
>real hard
>rush him at the start of next round
>perfect him
>"b-but i was typing"

Yeah, well, next time, maybe you shouldn't be spending half your game moaning about lag when you're the obvious problem.

>i can't find any 4v4 games
>why are you lagging
>wow this is so laggy
>it couldn't possibly because my own connection is fucked, as to why i can't find any 4v4 games, and even duels are laggy as shit

People are fucking dumb.
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>>170528532
definitely quit. right at the end too
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>>170528542
Maybe if you stop sucking real hard youd be less mad.
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>>170528605

I won though.
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>>170527685
its not 90s anymore you fuckhead, standards have gone up, or have you not got the memo via your fucking aol dialup? shove your modem up your ass you cocksucker
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>>170528343
>>170528212

I was leaning towards trying to capture a Nobushi to be my waifu. What can a Kensei give me instead?
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>>170527928

That's fine. I prefer the "Play what you find fun" philosophy. And I have to assume they're going to get a buff soon.
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>>170528725
A relationship based on mutual trust and respect.
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>>170528725
>>170528291
>>170528343

Meant to reply to these
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>>170528212
another male warden
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>>170524706
It must be hard playing this game if you are blind I give you that.
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>>170528582
Thanks :-)
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>>170528807
That's heresy
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>>170528725
>capture to be my waifu
get the fuck out to vikings with this kind of crap tyrone
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>>170528796

Think I can win her heart with my prowess or would I need to storm the rice fields and steal one?

>>170528807
Too much muh oaths in that ship
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>people finally figured out that if you just hold your shoulder bash for a split second, then bash into a side-dodging assassin, you can interrupt their dodge attack and continue the vortex

oh boy
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>>170528921
The only way to win her heart is to outfeint her in her own game.
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>>170528893
what would change, they are already faggots
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>>170528978
Ez, I'm the top of my feint class in Warden School
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>>170525903
>stealth_frag

I met you in the game today
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>>170528542
>orochi goes
>you suck
That's fun how the guys telling this are always the ones losing like,they die and they go "dude you suck omg"
I mean, maybe I do, but if I suck so much, try winning.
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>>170528532
>weapon so versatile it teleports fools straight to the shadow realm
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I wish there was a sword+shield Knight

it feels wrong to play Warlord for it and the flail is just completely different
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>>170529149

BITÁ
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>>170529149
*parry*
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>>170529149
MORTEM
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>>170529149

MORTEM
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>>170527639
Feinting zone with the Raider is the best shit. Nobody expects it.
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>>170529149
MISERUM

MISERUM

MISERUM
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>>170529168
SHOBU
>>
How do I stop talking shit?
I just get frustrated and I have to talk some shit, just cant help it.
Its like a fucking need, put everything on hold honey I'm showing this fuck on the internet whos boss even though I lost the fucking game.
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>>170529191
>>170529201
INIMICUS
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>>170529278
stop giving fuck
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>>170529261
MISERUM
*smack smack*

MISERUM
*smack smack*

MISERUM
*smack smack*
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>>170529310
But then I'm just depressing and I want to kill myself, its either drinking myself to shit cause nothing fucking matters in the world and I want out, or being angry as shit and wanting to pull that guys teeth out with his own broken off arm bones, what the fuck do I do.
>>
>>170529149
>>170529168
>>170529191
>>170529201
>>170529261
>>170529273
>>170529303

No wonder he always gets parried if he has to make a speech this long for his unblockable.
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>Finally my red beard as warlord
YUS
They can nerf this class to lawbringer tier and I would not abandon it. In fact I have a rep 2 lawbringer too and think he gets too much shit, fights are very much winnable
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>>170529278
Maybe you have to accept that an online video game is no way indicative of your virtue or value as a person?
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>>170529074

>Arming sword and long kite shield
>Chainmail and gambeson, with plated vambraces and greaves, saxon helmet
>Playstyle is similar to Warlord except it's the lights that give super armor, heavies have conq style block frames at the very beginning for them to be crushing counterattacks instead
>Bash someone with your pommel after parry to knock them straight down

Give him a nerfed LB shove and the we've got a heavy class that isn't completely retarded yet is strong enough to compete with the others.
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>>170529395
visit a doctor then, Im serious
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>>170529405
>fights are very much winnable
You either have to be just as scummy as them or play an absolute retard.
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>>170529395
The solution seems simple then
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>>170529507
Most people are absolute retatds by that logic.
Which might actually be true, so all is good then.
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>>170529410
But I'm a shithead, I have nothing else.

>>170529479
Well shit man, maybe I will.

>>170529549
>101 bucks on that shit
Fuck that I got people to feed.
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>>170529395
>just depressing and I want to kill myself, its either drinking myself to shit cause nothing fucking matters in the world and I want out, or being angry as shit and wanting to pull that guys teeth out with his own broken off arm bones, what the fuck do I do.
You should see someone
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Did they remove the Conq wallstun infinite

I cant do it to this warden bot for some reason
>>
How do we end /fhg/?
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>>170529395

>depressing and I want to kill myself
>drinking myself to shit cause nothing fucking matters in the world and I want out
Lawbringer is the class for you, my man. If you lose it doesn't matter, blame Ubisoft. If you win, you feel good.
>>
I know people like to complain about Warlord's and PK's being the most scummy characters, but I swear, Lawbringers and Berserkers are the most scummy players.
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>>170530010
PK players are by far the most subhuman
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>>170529992
We crash this thread
WITH
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>>170529395
>But then I'm just depressing and I want to kill myself

That's my natural state of being. If you wallow long enough, you get molded by it, reborn into it. You become apathetic, and that is better than being angry at stuff all the time. I used to be that, then I just sort of realized there's no point to it.

And I don't even drink/do pot/whatever, mind you.
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>>170529764
Well I tried seeing your mom.
Didn't put out, just hit me in the face and called the cops. idunno

>>170530007
Rep3 going strong, I like the big guy.
Doesn't feel good to win tho, all sweaty angry and hyperventilating after a couple of rounds against that peacekeeper cunt, its just fucking tiring, just wanna relax after work for a bit but fucking bitches out to ruin my day

>>170530125
I hear you, I hear you. Been holding on. And youre right, there isnt a point, just gotta pull through.
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>>170529395
Consider it friendo
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>>170530094
NO

..I mean no baneposting!
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>>170530246

If you want a game to relax, then a wannabe competitive multiplayer wannabe fighting game full of kids sure is not the way to go.
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I just wanted to duel, man.
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>>170530057
>pk
>not the roach

sure bud
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>>170530125
The point is to survive and reproduce until heat death of the universe. Life exists in defiance of entropy, and by merely existing you fulfill your purpose
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>>170530394
Game's 60 bucks I can't just leave it, it was fun until all the shitheads started doing the meta dance. And it stopped me from doing bad shit for a while, gotta be something to it, its fun if you fix the shit things about it.
I don't even know what to play, fps went to shit, maybe quake will be decent I dont fucking know,
>>
When do I stop seeing only orochi in duel
>>
>People are AFK even in duels now

This shit isn't fun anymore.
Why do they do this?

I'm not gonna keep playing just to beat people who are out getting lunch while their character spins.
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>tfw the Lawbringer buffs will do absolutely nothing
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>>170530646
>The point is to survive and reproduce

In my case, I have severe ADD and aspergers so I don't want to pass that hellish life on, so, I had a vasectomy. Technically, my role for being alive has been eradicated.
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>>170530646
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>>170530527
I've never met an orochi that flees in elimination. PKs however constantly do.
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>>170530782
>I've never met an orochi that flees in elimination.
you need to play more elim then. every other roach runs away from me
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>>170530775

>tfw i actually tried to spot if it was a loss comic

Fuck, this site has ruined me.
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>Non Vanguard orders

STOP IT
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>>170530770
You can still earn 50% completion by living as long as possible.
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When did you learn that there is no point in attacking when defense gives you parries, ways to generate untechable guard breaks, and guaranteed heavies?

>mfw an opponent decides to finally attack me in the turtle meta
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>>170530845
you can find anything in anything if you look long enough
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>>170530646
>Allowing nature to dictate to you how you should live

Being a slave to your base nature is a waste of the gift that is reason and higher thought.
>>
>Go knights
>Like two weebs
>Sort of like two vikings
>Like zero knights
How did they make knights the most boring heroes
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>>170531059
Joke's on you, HEADBUTT STAB HEADBUTT STAB HEADBUTT STAB
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>>170530858

Not everyone wants to play Warden, anon, even if he is unarguably the most powerful character able to be on even footing in any matchup in the game, something no other character can boast, with ways to open up defenses that makes him invaluable in the turtle meta.
>>
>>170531073

go away /lit/, or i'll burn you down like i burned down the alexandria library
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>>170531113
guess what, youre being a slave to your base nature right now
>>
>Pick up this game
>Learn the basics
>Think that parries are gonna be a lot stricter with timing like regular shield parries in Dark Souls
>They're mind numbingly easy to pull off

This game is going to be cancer when I get to high levels isn't it? Anytime both opponents know how to perfectly use such an easy and massively rewarding mechanic in a game, it becomes a waiting game to see who gets the balls to do anything first only to be brutally raped for it.

Please tell me there are ways to win other than parries and that they are just one of many.
>>
>>170531173
But I play Kensei
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>>170531376
I'm terribly sorry
>>
>Raider mirror duel
>guys starts trashing me and wins a round
>tell him left side attacks are my weakness since I keep fucking up my left stance with parasite mouse movements
>he spends the rest of the duel throwing right side attacks at me
>I win because ez parries
>>
>>170531376
you still have mind games
>>
>>170531376
feinting counters the easy parry window
>>
I hate conqs and warlord players so FUCKING much. Is there a particular reason warlords can block light attacks after whiffing their headbutt? Or that the headbutt itself is so fucking fast that you have to dodge on prediction not reaction. Why do conqs have a heavy attack that's faster than a roach's and does 1/3 of my hp?
>>
>>170531113
Higher thought exists by the will of and in service to nature. It's an error in reasoning to conclude the two should be somehow opposed
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>>170531462
raid buffer
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>read through the thread
>notice how many bads there are
I play one of the best characters in the game
and I am terrible, literally terrible.
I can't block, my reactions are too slow.
It's actually quite depressing.
>>
Anyone around for some 2v2s?
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Attack vikings.
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To clarify, with Kensei it's more damage to throw someone into a wall and unblockable OH than to GB, OH heavy and cancel into a light OH/heavy side?
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>if you get the same reward twice in the same match and you delete one of them, one gets destroyed and the other disappears (doesn't even give salvage).
Fucking hell. I've been robbed of gear twice like that now.
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>>170531829
>than to GB, OH heavy and cancel into a light OH/heavy side?
canceling the second OH heavy/unblockable*
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Daily reminder if you play either warden, pk or warlord you are the cancer killing this game.

If you play raider, conq, law, kensei you are bro tier
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>>170531984

Conq is just as bad as Warden/PK/Warlord, simply because he embodies the turtling meta far greater than anybody else.
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>>170531984
What I am if I main Nobushi, fellow Raider?
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>>170530782
>>170530827
All assassins can be sonic. If you die it takes almost a minute to respawn and run back to a point even longer on the bigger maps.
https://streamable.com/grctk
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>>170532047
Not him but Nobu and Kensei are the only bro tier.
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>>170531984
stay based
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>Ubisoft will never fix PK/Valk

If they keep this meta bullshit up then the game will fail in the coming months. This is embarrassing, just put out a hot fix reducing their speed and recovery frames by a small amount. IT'S ONE EDIT IN THE CONFIGURATION FILES UBISHIT.

also make a fucking PTR for feedback
>>
>>170532109
>Nobu
>Brotier

Consider suicide by hanging pls.

The only bro tier players are
Shugoki
Raider
LawBringer
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>>170532154
dude just block every light valk ever throws out every time perfectly xdddd
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>>170532307
Please don't make it that obvious you've only played this game for an hour
>>
>>170530737
Most people only afk in player vs AI because it will keep playing games even when you are alone. If you honestly don't know why people do this its usually for 2 reasons. To get prestige 3 for i108 so they can beat people in 4v4 or to farm steel as the game gives you very limited amount unless you play for 3+ hours a day.
>>
>>170531829
You should always do Side heavy after a guard break it does more damage than a non unblockable OH

But yes, throwing them against the wall does more damage
>>
True brotier is all characters are fun and fulfilling to play as and against
>>
>>170532345
Please don't post stupid shit like suggesting a faggot ass bleed pole and run class is bro tier. Neck yourself
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>>170532458
>You should always do Side heavy after a guard break it does more damage than a non unblockable OH
Huh, I thought OH = always more damage
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>>170532497
You can't do OH after just grabbing them, they can parry it.
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>>170532485
>playing against nobus who bleed and run off
>losing against nobus who bleed and run off
Confirmed shitter MMR
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>>170532313
It's painfully obvious you don't play any heavy class at all.
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IM A CONSOLE PLEB WHY IS VALKYRIE SO FAST NOW THIS IS WORSE THAN PEACEKEEPERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>170532520
99.95% of my grabs are coming off a parry which gives me an OH
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Does Lawbringer have anything that is guaranteed at all?
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>>170532604
dude just block literally everything ever and never get hit even once lmao
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>>170532604
When you realize that valk mains are stupid and always do top - side or side - other side chains then you'll start killing them.
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>>170532576
>implying that I lose to cuck nobushi players

Never but what is funny is how you think your class is a ducking comfy class when no one else but you thinks that. I bet you think PK is just fine too huh faggot?

>>170532671
>I have never played anything but assassin: the post

All you fucking faggots need to go and stay go
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>Female character
>Slender, agile, quick, but squishy

When will THIS meme end? Where are my fat tank girls at?
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>>170532669
side heavy after guardbreak
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>>170532745
Another game
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>>170532745
Start a petition to make shugoki female. I'll sign/
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>>170532745
>tfw no female shugoki

Let's be honest, if they made a woman a fat stinky samurai stick person the SJWs on neofag and reddit would rage.
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>>170532745
>what is femraider
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>>170532873
fuck off goober gater
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>>170529278
I feel the same fucking rage as you.
I just don't talk shit, I keep quiet.
I payed all that money for a game that I am fucking terrible at.
I want to say 'conq shield spam', or 'broken PK' or something like that
But deep down I know it's me who is bad, not the game.
t. Actual rep 7 noob
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>>170516034

>shugoki with the fucking uchiha clan emblem

all of my hate
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>>170532838

I would go back to Overwatch for this.
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>>170532927
See? I told you the
SJW cuckold beta nufags would reee like autistic manchildren they are.
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>>170533021
>if you're not on my side you must be part of this tiny little box that lives in my head rent free

No, you're just annoying and even worse, incredibly boring and predictable.
>>
>get to rep 9 berserker
>a new handle drops

IS THIS IT, WHERE I WILL FIND SOMETHING NEW TO WEAR
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>>170532154

>implying you shitters will stop complaining even if they reduce speed and recovery frames by "a small amount"

you'll find excuses everytime you lose because you can't accept that you're bad and incapable of learning
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>>170533021
>memes: the post
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POST
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>>170529278
Analyze why you lost. Think how to avoid it in the future. Learn from mistakes instead of yelling at the unfairness of things.
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>gets revenge in duel
>they blocked like twice

???????????????
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>>170530646
life is facilitating and accelerating entropy
it is more effective at creating entropy than a lifeless system, that is why it can exist in the first place
we are riding the death wave
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>>170533210
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this was nice
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Biggie Cheese
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>>170533457
you're*
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>>170533071
>muh US VS. THEM fallacy

I'm just a single anon, who is this collective group you created in your head? Strawman's are always fun because it shows how the collective mind thinks. SJWs like you cannot properly rebuttal an argument but rather just doubledown and create stupid fictional dycotomies like muh gg boogeyman and "your group".

No, I'm a free thinker and just understand that if a game developer made a fat stinky female that isn't characterized as a strong independent rainbow haired dyke(zarya) it'll trigger you like it just did. You can't help yourselves you are obsessed with identity issues. It's all you know special snowflake.

Again, I'm an individual not a group or a boogeyman beta bitch. Let's try to actually use big boy words and form an argument if you can.

Protip: you cant
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>playing with a new guy
>go through all my heroes to explain the moves to him
Best feeling
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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>>170533212
Oh I know full well why I lost, doesn't help much.
>>
>Go for the killing blow
>Sword hits the wall

N-NANI
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https://aww.moe/xlrygl.txt
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>>170515749
is game ded yet
back /quake/ anyone?
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>>170533212
>lost because can't react to feints/always getting parried
>analyze this
>continue to lose
Well at least the industry is saturated with easy games, so I have other options.
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>>170533552
This post has to be a joke or some pasta I'm unaware of
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>>170533879
l2spam nub
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>tfw only play heavies because they are the underdogs
>tfw morally refuse to play any broken class
>tfw would rather handicap myself in duels with raider or shugoki then cheese people all day as PK or warlord
>have a 81% win rate in duels as shugoki and 78% as raider
>wish they had replay implimented so I can watch my fights and gitbetter
>no matter how good I get I still get 3-0 cheesed by warlords and PKs
>tfw gonna join a tourney and win as a underdog one day

Anyone else deal with these feel?
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>>170533924
not him, but
>can't think of a response to his post
>let's just say it's silly hehe
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>>170532738
Honestly, look at your own posts and tell me you're not a retarded, angry teenager
>lmao u mad dumb faggot XDDD
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>>170533995
>not him, but
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>>170533457
>oh a stranger on the internet said something nice to me!
sad desu
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>>170533983
Elaborate
I tried that approach, just get parried
even lights
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>>170533851
>back to a game that havent come out yet
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>>170533993
>handicap yourself in duels
>with shugoki

Yeah, nah. He's one of the few viable in tournaments right now.
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>>170534046
>a stranger in a game which is usually incredibly salty said something nice as a change
m'dude you should've just said cringe afterwards, would've added to your post more
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>>170533924
Stay BTFO senpai
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>>170530432
>Cyberassassin44
>gets lawbringers all the time
pottery
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>>170533993
>>tfw would rather handicap myself in duels with raider or shugoki
>or shugoki
>>170534031
>if i disagree with you, i have to be the one person who does so
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>>170533993
>Heavy
>Underdogs
Raider is shit however but also not listed as a heavy.
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>>170534089
Shugoki hasn't even made top 32. Get the fuck out pls. At least a raider made top 8 once
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>it's duel order time
Man, I don't do duels often because I don't really enjoy them but holy shit are people salty about environmental kills.
I also don't believe shitters who spam GB when we're close to a ledge then proceed to whine when they the ones to fall.
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>>170534071
get a guard break in.

tech guard breaks.

mix attack direction mid spam.

all there is to it.
thank me later.
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>>170533993
>Conq
>Warlord
>Shugoki
>Underdogs
>>
I love the game but its just so fucking inconsistent. Guaranteed attacks don't always hit. Or they will work fine then fail at the worst time which results in a loss. Warden threw me into a wall and top heavy attacks me. I do the same thing a few seconds later but he blocks it. Is this just lag?

Also im seeing players without an outline on their emblem. Is this the game fucking up or is there a way to get rid of the boarder?
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Remember: there should be a server-side patch some time today that will address a bunch of bugs and add some small doodads.
>Shugoki's unparryable heavy and phantom double hit - GONE (as well as similar cases for others)
>Kensei bug involving cancelling a top heavy unblockable into another top heavy - GONE
>Conq/Warlord/Valk: fullblock stance now has a slight ~100-200 ms delay before it actually starts blocking
>Cleaning up the interaction of simultaneous guardbreaks
>Cleaning up interactions on Valk's forward lunge attack
>All characters get one new ornament
>All characters will be able to purchase the Whirlwind mood effect for idle/executions/emotes (previously exclusive to Nobushi)
Plus whatever else they decide to do.
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>>170534343
PK deserved it for bleeding
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>>170534343
rule no1: trust no one, ledge them.

rule no2: fuck PKs, she deserved it.

lol at webm tho
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>>170532313
>xdddd
>>170532593
anon was only pretending dude
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>>170533993

I can't even play peacekeeper because deep inside I feel like absolute shit for playing her
.
Warlord is somehow fine for me. I'm really into sword and board so I guess that's it. And it's not like you can't lose as him or peacekeeper for that matter, it just won't happen as often as when you willingly play the lowest in the food chain like Raider and have to hope people have a moment of weak concentration to get your meme zone attack in.
>Even mentioning winrates in the game where those number are probably more useless than anywhere else
>>
Even if the game magically fixxed the connection problems people would still leave the game
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>>170534430
I wish some of the attacks were more scripted, like when throwing someone against a wall as Raider, it's pretty much rng whether you can connect a side heavy or not, if you a tiniest bit of your axe hits a prop, it delays the hit enough that it won't hit before the guy can recover.
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>>170534446
No other balance changes? Is that really it? I'm glad I uninstalled this game today. Never again, ubisoft, never again.
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OFFICIAL TIER LIST KETTLE BALL EDITION!!!

NERF THIS PIECE OF SHIT TIER: Valk, PK, Warlord, Conq

HIGH CHEESE TIER: Nobushi, Warden

MID TIER/BRO TIER: Shugoki, Kensei

LOW TIER/SHIT TIER: Raider, Orochi, LawBringer

FUCKING FITE ME FAGGOTS
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>>170534109
No need to add anything to that post. It perfectly points at how pathetic you are.
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>>170534089

>Type yeah
>Then immediately types nah

Why would you even type yeah?
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>>170515691
>Still no gallery where all the OC drawfagging is saved
At least gather the non-lewd ones.
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>>170534343
>Man, I don't do duels often because I don't really enjoy them but holy shit are people salty about environmental kills.
It's pretty agreed upon to not environmental kill in duels since the entire point is a 'fair' 1 on 1 (PKs deserve whatever they get)
>I also don't believe shitters who spam GB when we're close to a ledge then proceed to whine when they the ones to fall.
This is why I don't fight near ledges, if they refuse to move from one I'm taking it as they're trying to toss me and just throw them right off

Also that map needs to be removed
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>>170534640
Server-side patches are for certain bugsquashing and rollouts. Real balance patches will be in the big downloadable patches we get.
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>>170534646
shugoki/kensei/conq are cheese tier but otherwise right
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>>170534646
>half of the entire cast is OP/cheese
I do like to be reminded that there are some people who are worse than me, and yet still blame the classes.
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>>170534646
>I'm retarded and form my opinions based on either /fhg/ shitposts or from the two hours of gametime I've played
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>>170517053
>Political shit better than references to other games
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>>170534646
>FUCKING FITE ME FAGGOTS

why? you are completely correct.
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>>170534601
Just implement a 15min timeout if you leave(through the menu) or close the game. People would still pull their ethernet cord but you would get a lot less quitters atleast.
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>>170534343
lol at that webm. I play alot of Nobushi and neither I nor that PK have any right to complain about what people do when they're bleeding out. Everything is fair game then.
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>>170534601
And those people leaving the game are what's causing the connectivity issues in the first place. The devs said themselves in last week's devstream that a major cause for connection instability was the unexpected and massive uptick in "ragequitters" (their word) taxing the system.
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>>170534783
Yes, every character in this game is in fact cheese. There's no "fundamentals" character.
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>>170534694
yeah, nah mate your a cunt hey
>>
>>170534640
They're saving balance changes for live patches, this is a server side "hotfix".
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>>170534343
This is why bleed damage and bleeding out is okay. The Peacekeeper did her damage, but it's not fully guaranteed damage. The Raider still had time to murder her, and he did.
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>>170521667
You're lucky. My family heraldry is nothing but sabers and beheaded turkish heads.

I have the Habsburgs to blame for saying "I'll allow it" and "welcome to the nobility."
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>>170534694
"Yeah, no" is another way of just saying "no"
>>
Why the fuck is power ups in elimination
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>>170534783
>>170534814
>t. PK/Warlord mains
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>>170535001
t. has no argument and doesn't know how to greentext
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>>170534694
>>170534909
>>170534973
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>>170534694
It's backwards Australian lingo
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FINALLY

Finally I'm starting to get the hang of parries and teching GBs. Playing LB was so much suffering until I started to get better at them.

>mfw I made 3 different peaceshitters and a two roaches ragequit last night
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>>170534958
>beheaded Turkish heads
H-how do you behead heads?
Also post it
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>>170533210
OKAY


Speaking of which, lets roll a new character for me to play.

7 decides which class.

If doubles and an already rep 3 character, you get to decide if I make it my main and take it to rep 7.
>>
>>170535001
>Played lawbringer to fit in with the general population of a Taiwanese fish-grooming forum
I bet this is you.
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>>170535125
Wait until you play LB against anybody with half a brain (ie; not peaceshitters/roaches)
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>>170535059
>doesn't understand burden of proof

You faggots made the claim that the Broken classes are not broken so prove it cuckboi
>>
>>170535125
Don't worry, the suffering continue
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>>170535125
just wait till you get matched up against a good valk player, you'll want to rip your own face off
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>>170535190
>make dumb claim
>supports it with nothing
>expects to be proven wrong
Obviously you don't understand burden of proof. I never even said I was disagreeing with the nerf tier, you're just a raging autist
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>>170516152
>Valk getting a fully charged shield charge before you can recover
>getting a free heavy after knocking you a mile away
>>
>>170535001
>tfw you picked Warlord because you through he looked cool, like his playstyle, and he turned out to be a great character

Feels good man, will continue to play Warlord after the nerfs come in.
>>
>>170534723
But think of it like this, a lot of classes can use walls to great effect, especially myself as a Raider for free side heavies, and yet I don't see anyone complaining about walls or no walls.
Removing environmental kills/damage is removing a part of the game, and a part of my kit in some way.
Some of the arenas may be dumb, like the tiny bridges and stuff, but positioning is always important.
>>
>>170534640
>>170534734
>>170534916
Also, you shouldn't expect rapid rollout of balance patches. Ubisoft is adamant on taking balancing slow and methodically. They base their balancing on community feedback and internal statistics, and they have to make sure anything they rebalance doesn't break anything else. They won't act until they have data to work with, hence why, for example, they're waiting for more data on fixed Peacekeeper to come in and for her winrate to "stabilize" before they decide if she needs proper buffs or nerfs.
>>
The LB mains kill the general for me
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>>170535369
But winrate is meaningless if you can just leave mid-game with no penalties.
>>
>>170534446
>there should be a server-side patch some time today
proofs
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>>170535369
Ah yes, is this why they nerfed Raider and buffed PK? I sure love how slow and methodically they're taking it.
>>
Just got to rep 3, is this when I start using all my chests for purple gear?
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>>170535446
ye
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>>170535290
Warlord headbutt do broken that even ubisoft says it.

PK so broken that even Ubisoft has stated it.

Valk is so broken that even ubisoft has stated it.

My burden of proof is the fucking community and the company itself

Again retard, prove me and everyone else wrong. Here is your (you) faggot make it a good one
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>>170535349
One gives some bonus, the other is an instakill. Do you not see a difference here? Instakill should be removed and Raider/LB should be compensated with more wall bonuses as a result.
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>>170535430
I'm sure they gather more data than what you can see on your profile.
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>>170535349
Like it or not, some classes take better advantage of the environment than others, which makes positioning all the more important. It's why all these "Final Destination" requests for no environment won't help any because you're actively detracting from the classes who do use the environment.

>>170535435
>nerfed Raider
What are you talking about?
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>>170535396
The constant whining does for me. Every thread is the same thing whining about the same characters. Maybe once the balance patch rolls in it'll get better.

Hopefully, maybe.
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>>170535479
>le jew face
I fucking knew you were the same retard as earlier in the thread who sperged out. Also do you have some sort of learning disability? That's the second time you got triggered over something I explicitly posted I wasn't saying

why am I even responding to this retard
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>>170535396
yeah, this game needs more metafags for sure.
>>
>>170535521

I'd rather the General die the game is niche enough to have players
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>>170535001

>I willingly play shit classes and complain on the internet because I lose
Nice life you have htere anon
>>
>>170535430
Ubisoft's inner stats are more comprehensive than that.

>>170535435
>buffed PK
They gave her a necessary bugfix and a small quality-of-life buff (can now confirm a light off a parry). Peacekeeper launched at a handicap; now she is at her intended power level and will be subject to more proper balancing.
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>>170534343
I usually gb near ledges to tug opponents away from them
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>>170535187
>>170535236
>>170535289

I'm aware that it's going to be bad. But it was very rewarding to just get a little back last night. Gave me hope.

Hope that'll be shattered and thrown about on the floor later.
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>>170533457
Pathetic lmao
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>>170533457
And now turn the parry bot off
>>
>>170535431
Watch Tuesday's dev stream. There's a server-side patch today, and a PC hotfix in the unspecified "near future" that will address "Quit to Desktop," add an AFK fix, Intel driver stuff, and other little things.
>>
>46k
>21k
>now 15k
We're dying, anons. Shame.
>>
>>170535664
I will say he's one of the more satisfying to get kills with, not sure if that's just because he's garbage though.
>>
>>170535809

What about uplay only numbers?
>>
>>170535324
>tfw the characters you think look cool are the weakest of their type
It hurts
>>
>>170535809
Game's too shallow to survive. It took like a day before people realised all they needed to do was defend to win.
>>
JESUS CHRIST how fucking long time does it have to take to find a FUCKING game in this >ALREADY DEAD< game. it only has to find 3 fucking other players to play with, come the fuck on shit ubisoft
>>
>>170535603
In the end it doesn't matter to me, I'm a long time /ddg/ poster, I'm used to slow threads. And /fhg/ is nowhere near the slowness of /ddg/. If anything this general is very fast, it's just the content is always the same.
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>>170535563
>all anons who use jew memes are the same

And you called us the spergs? You paranoid autist
>>
>>170535809
Fighting games are not famed for their population size.
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>>170535906
That was always the caste with me, even in fighting games like Street Fighter or Marvel. This is like the first time ever that a character that I visually enjoy ended up being a top tier character.
>>
>>170536000
>posts the same stupid bullshit as another retard
>spergs out the same way as another retard
>uses the same maymay images as another retard
If it walks and talks like a retard
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>>170535809
there is hope. Rainbow 6 also started very badly and look at it now.

also 4 big games just got released, no wonder people drop off to play those
>>
>>170536071
This is also true that I think people need to understand. For Honor came out a few weeks before fucking Zelda, that Horizon game, and Nier: Automata. The player drop should have been something anyone could have seen coming.
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>48% negative reviews
>Butchering your own game just so you don't have to pay for servers
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>>170536038
Lmfao you're so autistic and paranoid it hurts holy shit. Does this meme touch your Brain a certain way anon?
>>
>>170535809
Did anyone not see this coming?

I should have known after playing in the betas. But instead I thought that ubisoft will surely have fixed the issues after 4 ( F O U R ) betas.

Never should have bought this game.
>>
SS Tier: Characters who have little to no weaknesses and many overwhelming strengths.
>Warlord
>Conqueror

S Tier: Characters here are strong and have good options, while still having some problems.
>Peacekeeper
>Warden
>Valkyrie

A Tier: Characters here are fairly balanced. They excel in some areas while lacking in others.
>Kensei
>Shugouki
>Orochi
>Nobushi

B Tier: Characters whose abilities aren't very well designed around their playstyle. Results in a lacking character overall.
>Berserker

C Tier: Characters who are fundamentally at a disadvantage and need serious rebalancing to bring up to a viable level.
>Lawbringer
>Raider
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>>170536071
R6 had better core mechanics that didn't get shit on until Dust Line
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>>170536170
>PK
>Below Warlord/Conq
r u avin a go at me ye li'ul fuk
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>>170536128
The Switch launched this week, right?
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>>170536170
>SS Conqueror
U w8 m8?
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>>170515515
>GB Orochi as Raider
>Use my zone
>He parries it

Isnt that a guaranteed?
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>>170535939
I wonder how bad it must feel being Ubisoft dev who has spend amount of times making this game with it clean animations and what not, just to be wasted by shitty connectivity.
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>>170536170
PK and Valk belong in SS tier

conq belongs in S tier at most
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>>170536170
>Conq that high
Because it's so hard to block his left and right spam right?

Shitter list
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>>170536154
>p2p is bad meme

If you want to play anything even resembling a fighting game then p2p is the only way to go.
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You should be unable to tech when out of Stamina desu
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>>170536071

Siege is an FPS


Although for Honor won't be battleborn or evole tier dead but we won't have a lot of players no matter what


Even if the devs fix the servers people will still leave since they expected Chivalry not a fighting game
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>>170536170
The con needs S and PK/Valk need SS
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>>170535126
The coat of arms is to far for me to get it and scan it. Suffice it to say the motif is similar as this one, of the Hungarian town, but much more elaborate.
A shield, on top of a a plumed knight helm, on top of which my ancestor wields a saber and...heads.
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>>170536238
>>170536285
>>170536383
Peacekeeper has her broken AoE and very strong light attacks, but that's about it. Guard break is easily teched and her other abilities aren't very strong. I could maybe make the case for Valkyrie being at the top tier but I didn't want to stack it too much. She doesn't a safe chip attack like Conqueror and Warlord.

>>170536257
>>170536313
Punishes are very good and shield bash is an almost always safe option to get in free damage. Against someone that knows how to use him it's a very uphill battle with any character.
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>>170536271

Literally nothing but lights is guaranteed for Raiders.
Except side heavies if you manage to kinda throw them against a wall and have time to start swinging before the started staggering yet.
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>picked samurai as my MP faction
>but secretly hope we get conquered by knights so I can join the great crusade
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>>170536338
Not only is Siege a FPS but it's a FPS with a very low TTK and 1HS is a kill on anyone. FH's TTK is way too high to ever be properly balanced
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>>170536402
>Remove kebab emblem

Kek
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>>170536338
I'm pretty sure it's filtering out by now that For Honor is more in the vein of Soul Calibur and Bushido Blade than Chivalry. It's why the FGC wants to jump in on it.
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>>170536338

This

Even if the devs fucking somehow fix the servers and do the balance changes we still won't have a large playerbase
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>>170536314

They stopped making it a fighting game that should prefer p2p when they made 80% of the game based around more than 2 people being connected to each other.
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>>170536419
I think side heavy is guaranteed after a light parry too. But I was really under the impression that the unblockable is guaranteed after a GB.
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>>170536417
>safe chip attack like conq
what is his safe chip?
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>>170536402
Noice
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>>170536486
>It's why the FGC wants to jump in on it.
I thought FGC would be autists and spam "NOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT A -REEEAAAAAAL- FIGHTIG GAME"
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>>170536170
>A Tier: Characters here are fairly balanced. They excel in some areas while lacking in others.
>>Kensei
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>>170536434
Apollyon is dead so if you get CONQUERED you'll just be executed as a heathen, not made to join.
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how can chastefags even compete??
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>>170536338

>more players than battleborn or evolve

Well that's makes it a little better
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>>170536656
More like kangz being rude subhumans.
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>>170536569
It's just kind of more difficult to parry but not really. It's just an unusualy situation to parry something in
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>>170536572
Shield bash into light attack. Does a little bit of damage but it adds up and is basically unpunishable.
>>170536628
Kensei has good range and some fast attacks. He has a lot of combos and can feint in them at any time. His grab also has a ton of range.
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>>170536338
>they expected Chivalry not a fighting game
I guess all the gameplay trailers and alphas and betas weren't enough of a hint that it fucking wasn't Chivalry.
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Anyone down for 2v2s on xbone i promise i don't suck..i just don't have any friends :(
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>>170536569
Nah, dude. The zone unblockable is almost never guaranteed by itself. What you can hope for is to fuck up people's timing with it by using it as a combo ender.

>>170536615
Of course there will be the FGC grognards, but a good chunk can see the inspirations behind the game and what it hearkens to, and they can see that many of the mechanics and mindgames you see in other fighters handily applies to For Honor. The one single feature that the game doesn't have that prevents it from being fully embraced by the FGC is what they argue to be the most important: offline local multiplayer. Even despite that, For Honor is getting articles on Shoryuken and will be a featured game at Final Round 20.
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>>170536880
NO
DEEL
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>>170536828
if you dodge the first shield bash its punishable, on the other hand I can never dodge warlords headbutt in time
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>>170536314

>p2p

I don't know 4v4 modes suffer badly from p2p and I have a great connection. I'm just either stuck with shitter 3rd worlders or ragequitters that fuck up the session constantly.

Not to mention just plain dropped from matches pretty regularly. Servers would be nice for game modes that aren't duel.
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I heard that dmbrandon bans people in tourneys who use cheese moves? This confirmed?
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170501698
Then fight my brawl buddy.
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>>170536962
It's punishable with some characters, not all.
>>170537028
>For Honor competitive scene
Yeah it's always fun watching the same three people win because they abuse the top tier characters.
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>>170537028
No, he banned 1 PK for going against a specific rule they were well informed about.
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>>170533210
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>>170536937
pls anon im so lonely
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>>170537186
>For Honor competitive scene
>You miss 1 GB and you die
Nice fighting game.
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>>170537201
Who got banned? Was it for the indicator glitch?
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>>170537241
Because ring outs totally aren't a thing in 3D fighters (or even 2D fighters like Real Bout Fatal Fury).
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>>170537274
I forget who but yeah, the last few had "any tech available" rules though.
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>>170537328
Name THREE (3) 3D fighters that got into EVO main program.
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>>170537374
For Honor isn't a fighting game, stop trying to compare it to one.
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what exactly can you get for free out of a GB as raider? if its a tackle to the ground? a wallstun? an exhausted variant of these two?
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>>170537434
Devs say it is ;^)

Yeah, nah, I'm out of shitposts for today.
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>>170537434
>>170536615
There we are
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>>170536828
>Kensei has good range and some fast attacks.
he has good range on his left light, and his **only** fast attack is his top light.
>He has a lot of combos and can feint in them at any time.
what does this even mean, only shitters react to feigns in a way that is punishable that isn't the gb 50/50
>His grab also has a ton of range.
are you playing at a level where all grabs aren't teched?
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>>170536894
Unblockable is guaranteed off of a forward throw on all characters. As for the gb into unblockable, I'm pretty sure thats a confirm on everyone except roach.
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>>170537434
But it is a fighting game. Just because it doesn't traditionally look like one doesn't mean it isn't one if you look closesly at the mechanics provided and what they allow you to do.
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>>170537374
Tekken 4, Tekken Tag Tournament, Soul Calibur 2, Soul Calibur 3, Virtua Fighter 4, DOA4, Tekken 5, Tekken 6, Tekken Tag 2
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>>170537513
It can be compared to a fighting game because it has similar elements, but the style is more like an action game if anything. Dark Souls has similar mechanics to a fighting game but it's not a fighting game.
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>>170515515
I play Vanguards (+Honorary Vanguard Lawbringer) and have a pretty good handle on Warden and LB, an alright performance with Raider, but I have need some Kensei tips. How do I open a fight with him? It feels like you just have to wait and punish mistakes as an opener.
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>>170536894
Mario Kart was a featured game at EVO
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Roach main here. Getting to the point where I can't open anyone up that's playing well defensively. Is there any hope for meta changes?
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>>170537708
top light from close range, left light from range
you need to feign A LOT at high level play, try to get a feign into a gb if they react but cancel their parry. the only hit you'll (sometimes) get is a top light at high level, mostly you're just feigning trying to bait for a reaction. quite honestly he's one of the hardest heroes to play at a decent level because you have quite literally 0 decent openers and you spend most of your time guessing what your opponent is about to do.
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Is this build good for Nobushi? Would you change anything?
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>>170537708
that's basically it
kensei is suffering
i always feel like i can fuck someone up to 1 bar of health, and then they turtle to not die and i struggle to finish them off
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>>170535917
>Game's too shallow to survive
how can you say that when the majority of the playerbase doesnt even know how to tech grabs
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>>170537707
>it doesn't count because I said it doesn't
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>>170536170
Valkyrie is SS tier along with Warlord now.

>tfw OTP is top tier
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>>170537829
>build
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>>170537992
All this post told me was that you don't know what shallow means.
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I quite like the cheese grater faceplate conquistador on the lawman.
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>>170537374
anon i think you forgot to reply to this post >>170537654
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>>170537708
>>170537825
>>170537838
Alright faggots, I'm about to drop some Kensei knowledge bombs on you stupid cunts.

Vanguards all have a unique dash block in which they can block in a direction during a dash.

Kensei also has a unique dash GB.

This means whenever someone attacks, you block in that direction, and dash-GB them. This gets you an untechable GB, or they feinted and just tech your GB, no loss for you either way.

Blocking normally has an animation that gets skipped when you block while dashing towards someone. This allows you to catch the ending frames of an attack which guarantees a GB on the enemy.

Now go forth my retards and try this out yourselves. This is Kensei's single unique thing. It's awesome when it works but you'll soon realise he's just a one trick pony and still sucks at higher tiers.
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>>170538115
its not more shallow than call of duty, halo and lol, and look at how those games are doing
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>>170538042
What else would you call them? I just hear people always talk about "revenge builds" so I went with that.
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>>170538235
>you respond to me telling me that kensei has a dash gb
>in my post i have a webm of me doing it
??????
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>>170538237
It absolutely is.
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Is there a place where I can see every single Kensei cosmetic?

Also is there an Olive green color?
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>>170538276
As long as you have high revenge gear you're set
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>>170537708
Kensei cannot forcibly open someone up like the Warden or Lawbringer can, not without trying to go through his chains. You need more raw outplays with the Kensei than with either of the other vanguards and that means catching people out with your range and mobility. It's why you've got the Helm Splitter, the unique sidestep slashes, and the dash guardbreak. Feinting will be one of your only friends as a Kensei, as you need to bait openings where you can. If you can work your way through your chain and get to the top heavy unblockable, you have more mixups afforded to you.

Some neat tech the game doesn't tell you, if you don't already know: when dashing or using any of his dash maneuvers, the Kensei maintains whatever guard he had during neutral throughout the dash. For example, if you have top guard and you go for your dash guardbreak, if the enemy throws a top attack during your dash, you will block their attack and continue on with your guardbreak. That'll catch a lot of people by surprise.

All in all, Kensei has solid fundamentals, good range and mobility and some tricky attacks, but he's hampered by no real way to force an opening beyond basic pressure (feinting included). It's why Conqueror and Warlord are the Kensei's two toughest matchups.
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>>170538237
LoL might be a watered down normie DotA but it has a pretty god damn high learning curve, wouldn't call it as shallow as babby's first FPS
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>>170538276
Need revenge gear (gain by def, rev atk, duration)
Need to make sure stamina cost isn't one of your bad stats
Any other combination doesn't matter, those are all that matters
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>>170538307
delusional

>>170538374
having a ton of champions doesnt make the game complex
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>>170538235
I thought the dash GB only worked forward?
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>>170538235
everyone knows this already
i said he sucks in higher tiers in my post and you stated it at the end of your post as if you were correcting me
this entire post was completely unnecessary
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>>170538532
>having a ton of champions doesnt make the game complex
Have you actually played it (not one game with friends) or are you just posting what /v/ said about it
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>>170538235
oh, and, to note, that's still not a way to open someone up when they're turtling
it's like you found this shit out in your last game and were looking for an excuse to post it, even if it's not helping in the slightest

>>170538571
it only works forward
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>>170538598
i, sadly, have 3k hours poured into it
stopped like a year or two ago though
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>>170516152
It's super predictable after the first time. If you can't recognise a short pattern and capitalize it's on you.
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>>170538532
You're a fucking idiot. There are a thousand different ways that a 1v1 can go down in an FPS like CoD because of weapons, grenades, killstreaks and of course, level design. There are like 6 ways that any given 1v1 matchup in For Honor can go down because the only influence level design has on the fight is "can opponent fall off ledge?"
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>>170538681
no point arguing this, youre not convincing me, im not convincing you, just drop it.
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>>170538681
what are walls, pillars and shit?
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>>170538656
You can't honestly say it doesn't take a while to learn. Really only fighting games have a higher learning curve/entry barrier than ASSFAGGOTS, even RTS' are relatively easy to pick up.
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>>170538235
>Vanguards all have a unique dash block in which they can block in a direction during a dash.
>Kensei also has a unique dash GB.
>This means whenever someone attacks, you block in that direction, and dash-GB them. This gets you an untechable GB, or they feinted and just tech your GB, no loss for you either way.
Wanna know some shit that people don't realize? Raider has the same thing, except Kensei's dash-GB is only forward, while Raider can side- and forward-dash GB.
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>>170515515
>duel
>prestige 1 orochi with an edgy black and red emblem
>"Hello. I hope we will have a good match."
>only top light and zones
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>>170538763
it takes a while to learn what every champion does, doesn't mean its a complex game
plus the percentage of useful champions\items is not that big and everyone is doing meta things anyway, so you can just read a guide and be set, for majority of the players
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>>170538760
>running away when you know you have no argument
To be expected, honestly.

>>170538762
Nothing? When the fuck has a pillar in For Honor been used as a tactical advantage in a fucking duel?
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>>170538681
>There are a thousand different ways that a 1v1 can go down in an FPS like CoD

You sure buddy? Last time I heard it was only 843
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>>170538894
It's learning meta game, when to buy/use what items, farming efficiently, playing mindgames, actually fighting people etc. There's way more than just knowing what champions do

I quit for dota, dragging friends in with me and it takes them months to get to a not-shit state. FPS' by comparison are insanely quick to get into
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>>170538854
>orochi does the only thing he can
start parrying orochi tops and then you can beat any orochi
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>>170535939
>>170536278
Why are you lying and replying to yourself ?
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>>170538996
Imagine having so little of an argument that you have to resort to a post like this. Anyone that claims For Honor is deeper than virtually any other competitive game on the market isn't even delusional anymore. They're outright mentally disabled.
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>>170536995
IT has more to do with the network architecture and how they messed up than the p2p itself.
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>>170538519
>revenge duration
oh anon lol
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>>170539014
Literally this
Free R2 every time
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When do I use full block as conqueror? I seem to be doing fine enough even without it up to the point of feeling super scummy if using him on duels.
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Why Warden is the best designed hero in the game and every hero should be balanced like him:

Cancelable shoulder.

Using shoulder instantly forces your opponent to act, yet with counterplays you can also make, and also workarounds your opponent can use as well.

If you charge shoulder in neutral, there are 3 things your opponent can do:
>side or back dodge
>light attack to stuff the shoulder
>wait, and not open themselves up at all
Each of these has a counterplay, being cancel into GB, cancel into parry, or just raw shoulder. Your opponent can also read you and use feints or other attacks to properly counter, and so on.

No other character really has this kind of depth, and why Warden should be used as the pinnacle of balance for this game, or just fix the fucking defensive meta
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>>170535757
>add an AFK fix
Welp that sucks. Atleast i got like 20 prestige and 100k steel. Feel bad for anyone who wants cosmetics but doesn't have the money to pay for microtransactions.
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>>170539243
When an orochi or warden are attacking with top
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The playerbase is a quarter of what it was at release. It's really unfortunate the game is turning out like this but I mean what did I expect. It was much more enjoyable during the beta when everybody including myself was shit
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>>170539278
>Why Warden is balanced
>Cancelable shoulder
wew
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>>170539347
>game loses players around release
>game loses players when a ton of AAA titles come out right after release
woah no way
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>>170539347
ubishit made their money that is all they cared about
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>>170539278
>forcing opponents to straight up guess on a move that at worst resets you to neutral
>good design
>balanced
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>>170535809
Oh it's you again
also we are not dying
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So, I'm giving in to the memeing and trying the LAW.
Give me a quick run down anons.
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>>170539528
Yeah, it's shit. But the point that it encourages offensive play is valid.
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>>170539375
Conq/Warlord/PK are OP because they're unreactable/unpunishable in ways other characters are and should be, and the lower characters have bad offenses because of a lack of those tools. Making more matchups rely on what tools each character has, instead of how badly you can abuse inherent weaknesses of the system, would be a nice step forward.

>>170539528
It's the most fair offense in the game currently, and also, if you dodge shoulder, you usually get a light attack, or a GB if you're extremely fast, let alone reading a cancel > parry attempt with your own parry or light confirm
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>>170539686

>don't play the game
>spam memes in FHG and complain about game balance
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>>170539686
Parry is everything.
Resist the temptation to pointlessly spam shove>gb, it's just going to get teched.
Throw more lights than you think you should.
You don't really have any secret tech.
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>>170539347
That tends to happen when not everyone knows how to play. Once a game is "figured out" and people know how to optimize play, it becomes less fun. In this case being super defensive is what wins games. There is quite literally no reason to attack first in this game with parrying being so brainless easy.
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>>170539752
>Conq is OP
>Warden isn't
The sheer delusion.
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>>170539528
It doesn't change that the shoulder forces an engagement and interaction that would otherwise not have happened in a more passive neutral. It's one of the only legitimate offensive mixups in the game, and it can partly serve as a basis for other similar engagements.
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>>170539686
If you exhaust them you can shove bully them and guardbreak when they try to dodge the shove
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>>170539706
>>170539752
No it doesn't, it's only """""""""""""""""""""""""""fair"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" for the warden you stupid fuck.
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>>170539780
pretty much this
have stopped playing since pk/ warden and warlord in every game.

Shame warden and pk will never be nerfed though due to everyone playing them and white knights endlessly defend the class on teh official forums.

Seriously go look it's just funny
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>>170539848
He is correct, though, Warden is pretty balanced compared to the cancer that is Conq and Warlord. Thats why they are getting a nerf and Warden isn't
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>>170539848
Conq's shieldbash is much faster, has blockframes, more or less unpunishable, and is much more deadly against walls, at what point does anything else matter?
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>>170539347
>>170539509
Do you hate ubisoft or something ?
why are you spamming le dead game meme every thread you pathetic lonely fuck
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>>170540076
it's an ebin /v/ mem
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>>170540054
>Warden is pretty balanced compared to the cancer that is Conq

>>170540061
I can't imagine being this delusional. I get it. You're a Warden player. Come on the fuck though.
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>>170540076
best you got bud?
I honestly didn't care who made it. I love this game but i know damn well normie gamers couldn't handle a semi fighter game
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>>170540028
which is why the first line I posted said every character should be brought up to his level, dumbass

offense should be rewarded, defense should be a fallback, not the primary

>>170540138
how about making an argument instead of spewing "warden op" retard
>>
So is this game intended for people who enjoy fighting games? SFV sucks and I was in the mood for another 1v1 game but with non-shit matchmaking.
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>>170540138
>Conq PQ and Warlord at the finals on every 1v1 tourney ever
>WARDEN IS THE PROBLEM DOE!

Anon, please.
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>>170539848
There's a difference in OP and solid. In SFIII: 3rd Strike the third best character is Ken who is just really solid, the second best is Yun who is fundamentally broken, and the best character is Chun Li who is a mix of the two.
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>>170539848
Warden is actually a pretty strong point of balance. He is the barometer, the standard by which all other characters should be measured and arguably balanced around, much like Ryu or Mario in their respective games.
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>>170540254
I don't need to make an argument. The numbnuts who tried to prove Warden was balanced proved my point for me.

>>170540269
See above.

>>170540293
Yeah, you said all of this already. It only undermined your point, remember?
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>>170540269
inb4
>T-tourneys don't count! I know better than the participants even though I'll never join one! They're hosted by R-reddit so they're irrelevant!
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>>170540264
If you have a history with fighting games, especially if you're familiar with the likes of Soul Calibur and Bushido Blade, you stand to do well in For Honor.
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>>170540254
No you piece of shit, offense shouldn't be rewarded if it's literally a braindead 50/50 guessing game where if it gets "countered" you're still at an advantage (if they have to roll away giving up space and stamina) or they GBC resetting you to neutral.
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>>170540243
No you don't stop lying
>>>/v/
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>>170540398
>I don't need to make an argument.
So you concede? Gotcha.
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>>170540264

This game sucks shit if you come at it like it's a fighting game. It has so many fundamental problems

It makes way more sense that like 90% of the competitive scene are just dark souls pvpers
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>>170534343

The apex of salt-shredding is when you have someone obviously trying to ledge you, you know he's going to try to ledge you - then proceed to shit all over his super ledge technique, by ledging him.

Then he pretends to be innocent about it, as if he was never planning on doing that and moans about honor and whatnot.
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>>170540425
No one is saying the warden's shoulder charge is a perfect and fair mixup for both parties, but it's a start.
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>>170540425
>offense shouldn't be rewarded if it's literally a braindead 50/50 guessing game
Offense literally CANNOT be rewarded if you can counter everything on reaction. There MUST be a factor of prediction involved at some point.
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>>170540537
He was 2-0 so it's obvious he was feeling confident and just assumed you were retarded enough to go 0-2 as Warden
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>>170540398
>don't need to make an argument
So you give up becuase you can not come up with decent argumentation. Good.
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>>170540531
It's Ubisoft's first attempt at a fighter, and they're already working to iterate on the system. That aside, the game isn't even a month old; fighting games are never "solved" within the first month.
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>>170540658

I don't vortex by choice, or shoulder bash much at all - just to see what a Warden's options are outside of it. Conqueror is tough without shoulder bashes, yo.
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>>170540518
>>170540708
>I can't read
Interesting method of conceding, but I'll accept it.
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>>170540639

Even if you correctly predict it most of the time it's still in Warden's favor because you can't punish him for it. 50/50 being super fucking safe and punishing with no set up is complete horse shit and objectively bad design
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>>170540398
alright so you agree, warden is the pinnacle of balance, gotcha

>>170540425
it's not 50/50, it's 1/3 in neutral, 1/4 if you're playing a sidedash attack character, it's only a 50/50 if he lands one and you don't have any attack faster than 31f

also how the fuck would offense EVER work if it was always reactable? there would be no incentive to attack, ever
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>>170540747
Good job, autismo.

>>170540407
>literally making shit up to argue against because you know your position is indefensible
Curiouser and curiouser.

>>170540895
>I'm illiterate
You know when someone argues the benefits of Naziism and the rest of the world sees those benefits as the reason Naziism needs to be defeated? Same dealio.
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>>170540729
>It's Ubisoft's first attempt at a fighter,

Well they failed spectacularly then considering it's not a fighting game any more than Dark Souls or Anarchy Reigns is which is to way, not a fighting game.
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For you webm autists, I'm assuming you use shadowplay, how badly does it hurt frames?
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>>170540871
>>170540895
It's not a 50/50, it's a 1/3 to 1/5 depending on character.

1) Dodge a raw bash
2) Stand still and GB a canceled bash
3) Roll backwards to avoid either option
4) Light attack the Warden during Bash startup (most characters can do this)
5) Side dodge attack to avoid either option, only loses to feint parries but then it comes down to mindgames where you can fake him out with empty dodges
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>>170540639
>Offense literally CANNOT be rewarded if you can counter everything on reaction.
This is the crux of why we're in a defensive meta right now and why some matchups feel so lopsided: there is very little rewarding offense because virtually everything can be stuffed one way or another. In any other fighter, if one character has literally no way to get in on another character, that's a terrible matchup.
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>>170540871
>because you can't punish him for it
>raw shoulder can be dodged and hit with almost any light in the game, or GB'd if you're very close
>GB cancel can be stuffed with a light attack
what the fuck are you actually talking about?

>>170540962
no one even brought anything like that up, autist

"offense should be somewhat viable" isn't some insane rant, it's pretty reasonable considering the only 3 characters you see in tournies are the ones with unreactable/unpunishable offenses
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>>170540895
>1/4 if you're playing a sidedash attack character

Well, that's not correct. You can opt to hold your charge on a side-dash attack character and then release it and you'll hit them.
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>>170540962
>makes 0 tangible points
>people call him out
>hurr durr u r all illiterate 2 englitened 4 u

Anon please.
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>>170541017
>if I keep posting it it'll be true
A game can be part of a genre even if it's not a carbon copy of the posterchild for said genre, all you autists do is yell "NOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT" while providing no factual information, just opinions
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>>170540962
>deliberately ignoring the point about offense being impossible if it's always reactable
So you have no actual leg to stand on and just hurl insults like "autismo" and "illiterate" to deflect actual legit points.
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>>170540264
It's a fighting game for people who don't play fighting games.
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valk nerf when?
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>>170541109
>raw shoulder

lmao yeah it's not like he can just do it off a light attack you fuck

Forcing Warden mains to wear yellow patches for identification purposes when?

>>170541205
>tekken, virtual fighter, guilty gear and street fighter are all carbon copies of each other
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>>170541017
How in the fuck is For Honor more comparable to Dark Souls or Anarchy Reigns?
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>>170541109
>>170541181
>Can't even understand metaphors
Christ Almighty, the absolute state of /vg/

>>170541227
You're talking to the wrong person, you utter spastic. Fucking hell /vg/. This is fucking embarrassing to watch.
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>>170541281
>tekken, virtual fighter, guilty gear and street fighter are all carbon copies of each other
What is a hyperbole. Tell me how it doesn't fit in the fighting game genre -by definition- without comparing it to other games
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>>170541173
I've played Warden for a long time but never landed that, do I have to wait until the dodge is finished, and hyperarmor the actual attack? Idk if a full charged shoulder gives you anything without wallbounce, but I'll try that, thanks.
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>>170541354
>it's hyperbolic to call out my shitty misinformed opinion

Fuck off cunt
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>>170541307
I swear you people are doing this on purpose. How the fuck are so many of you in this thread utterly incapable of reading? He's saying that just being you "Fight" people in the game, like you do in Anarchy Reigns or Dark Souls, doesn't make it a fighter.

Are you all fucking Brazilians or chinks or something? How are you all so shit at English?
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>>170541406
>>170541406
>>170541406
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>autists on korean cooking board argue about shit

at least somethings going on in /fhg/ I guess
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>>170541394
>still has no argument
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>>170529278
>how do I stop talking shit?
Disable voice comms and unmap your key bindings for text chat and quick chat. Maybe even unmap taunts.

You'll initially want to shit talk but you'll simultaneously not want to go through the trouble of remapping that shit. So you'll just be mute. Eventually your inability to communicate will break your habit of shit talking.

That or you'll devise a way to shit talk your opponent through some weird interpretive dance.
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>>170539243
you can block a ton of shit that counts as confirmed for other character
for example nubushi after the kick, go full block, she wont hit anymore, i think warlord attack after headbut too, and some others
also it is a confirmed grab if you bash from full block, most ppl dont expect it too
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>>170541361

I don't know if it works against Orochi/PK, but it works against Berserker for sure. Primarily know this because I've been a victim of it all day long. If you just hold your shoulder charge as he's about to hit the end of the dodge-movement, you'll just bump into him. I'll try to find the fight where this one guy did it flawlessly on me every single time and webm it for you.
Another reason why Berserker gets shafted, woop woop.
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>>170541281
>letting people light attack for free
It's a Warden, not a Peacekeeper. You can react.
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Which of the starter characters is the "ryu" of for honor?
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>>170542837
Warden.
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>>170542837
Warden. Has every tool in the game.
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>>170523283
"High level"
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How to fight Nobushi as LB? I keep getting my ass stomped by them in duels. I try closing on them but sometimes I can fucking locked into a chain of light jabs from the left that I can't stop before she's taken 75% of my HP.

Seriously this matchup is giving me more trouble than any PK I've encountered.

I know I need to git gud but any tips against Nobu?
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>>170543714

play a different hero
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>Level 2 conq bot
>Perfect blocks every attack and techs everything
>Only uses lights and can survive 3v1 fights
ayy lmao
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>>170541084
Great answer.
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>>170524731
No since the backbreaker is obvious as he'll and even a conqueror can light attack you out of your hyper armor. You are just playing against shitters.
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>>170543714
LB is cucktier right now.
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