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Will forever be shit/ded game edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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This game deserves to die.
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>>170482909
>not orochi
>does the roach meme
Stick to your doos vult you faggot.
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>>170482996
t. weeb
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still looking for good lawbringer uploaders because I am trash at the class
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>>170482909
> "Memecrusader"
> doesn't get the legendary raider meme
> decides to fight you right by the hole in the bridge
> surprised when you beat his GB with a shove and then calls YOU gay

what did he mean by this
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>>170482909
>that visible confusion in the raider's eyes
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>Mericun prime time chat
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>mfw people with below 100 hours try to give their input on game mechanics
>mfw people with below 100 hours try to give you advice
>mfw people with below 100 hours tell you to "git gud"
>mfw people with below 100 hours think they're good at the game
>mfw people call me "salt"
>mfw people play peacekeeper
>mfw I see peacekeeper spam zone attack with revenge
>mfw this thread
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>>170483086
Just got to get good at fundamentals
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>>170483086
Spliced gaming (YT) and Galahad (twitch) are both breddy gud LBs
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i hate pks
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>>170483159
To be fair, 50 hours in duel/brawl is worth more than 200 in 4v4
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>>170482952
It's not even been a month.
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>>170483196
Quick suggestion to use top-light into top-heavy to get max damage on throw knockdowns if they're right next to you instead of dashing towards them
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Can someone translate?

"No mas para eso sirves correr como puta"

Hatemail from a lawbringer I kept ledging, as a lawbringer myself
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>>170483281
I know. That's how bad this game is.
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>>170483274
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>>170483323
Top heavy into side light does the same damage. They were just too far away.

>>170483372
Got no picture, it ain't real
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>>170483372
It means something along the lines of "The only thing you're good for is running away like a bitch"

His words, not mine.
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>>170483221

lol
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>>170483372
I forgot most of my spanish, but this seems like incoherent nonsense. If I had to guess "You can only run away like a bitch"
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>>170483372
Google translate exists.
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>>170483438
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>>170483372

What did this lawbringer mean by this?
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>mfw you can fuck up good players by swinging while out of stamina
Top kek.
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Have you booped your daily Orochi?
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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>>170483462
lol
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>>170483439
What? You need a screenshot? If you want, I can get one. It's on PS4.

>>170483452
>>170483523
Alright, thanks anons. I figured it would be something of the sort, since I ran whenever he tried to gank me with his team (it was Dominion).

Any good response, or should I just let it go?

>>170483559
>expecting Google translate to be able to accurately translate a sentence sent by someone who's retarded enough to send hatemail over a game
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When is Ubisoft going to realize that Orochi needs his/her attacks reworked?
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>>170483658
Warlord and Warden do these swings that are super fucking slow so your reaction to parry them makes you attack instead. It's completely retarded.
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HOW DO U REACT TO WARDEN AND ROACH ZONE ATTACKS WTF
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>>170483609
classic orochi
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>>170483808
After they finish buffing PK's to make this For Assassin's Creed feat. titties
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>>170482816
Retard-tier question from someone who has never used a controller before - how am I supposed to hold it when playing For Honor? Using my index to hit two buttons at the same time to do dash attacks for example feels extremely uncomfortable and I need by thumb on the stick

Using Xbone controller.
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>>170483793
>Any good response, or should I just let it go?
Either ":)" or "?" - I swear these never fail to trigger people, especially because you're not legitimizing their argument by acknowledging it
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>>170483728
Might want to make sure it's added in the next OP
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>>170482952
I'm not really seeing what constitutes as dead in a game as small as this until we drop to the point where there aren't enough for players to have simultaneous games in anything but duels

When the largest you get is 4v4 is a playerbase of 42k really expected or necessary

Shit isn't Blade Symphony dead
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DAUBENY
A
U
B
E
N
Y

SHOW YOURSELF
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delete PK
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>>170483841

I do not.
If roach, my guard is on the right by default. If Warden, my guard is on the left by default. So those can't hit me anyway. All other attacks I can react to.
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>>170483885
Do you mean zone attacks?
A lot of people hold it with middle fingers on the triggers.
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>>170483902
This. Or, >>170483793, if you wanna argue with him, say something like "Vete a la meirda" which means literally "Go to the shit" but he's more likely to interpret it as "Go to hell".
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Buffs
- Lawbringer
- Berserker
- Raider
- Kensei

Nerfs
- Peacekeeper
- Warlord
- Conqueror

Bigger buffs are obviously necessary for different classes, Kensei needs a small buff, and Peacekeeper needs a minor nerf to damage and speed. But Warlord and Conq need a big bump down, and Lawbringer needs a big buff.
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>>170483885
Use steam big picture mode to rebind buttons

Rebind GB to R3 and dodge to L1 (if you don't care about the quick chat) and you'll never have to take your fingers off the sticks again
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>>170484068
No, I mean like Warden shoulder bash or LB shove. I need to press forward + A + X and it feels really uncomfortable. Especially since I have big hands
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>>170484161
>no mention of an orochi rework
pls
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>>170484098
I sent a ":)", like the other anon said. Haven't gotten a response back yet, since I just sent it, and he's likely in the middle of another game.

Should I send that too, just for a few keks?
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I'm still unsure how effective the attack vs def vs stamina stats are on lawbringer.
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>>170483209
>Galahad (twitch)
>tune in
>environmental fishing
oh god is that all lawbringers can do at high levels

fuck
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>>170484161
How would you buff them as Kensei already has good damage.
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>>170483432
>>170482952
Tism
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>>170484238
Just because you can't deal with an easily killable enemy, doesn't mean he needs to be nerfed. Orochi's were annoying in the first week of release, I admit. But I almost guaranteed win against Orochi's now, the people who play them never stopped doing the same shit. Fast and annoying doesn't mean it needs a nerf.
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>>170484019
Blade Symphony is dead as fuck, dude. I got into the game rather late. The rooms are all but abandoned, and the only people left are those who cheese duels.
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>>170484197
You do forward dash, then press x. Don't do it at the same time.
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>>170484197
Sounds like you're holding it claw grip. Use your thumb to press the buttons instead.

>>170484376
Speed buff

>>170484405
I'm an Orochi main. What I mean is that I want a majority of his moves to be usable instead of just two, even if it means nerfing his top lights and his zone.
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>>170483462
>>170483786
lol
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>>170484376
Give him better options, all he can do really is feint attacks and look for combo openings, he doesn't have a particularly good skill setup in comparison to the other Vanguard heroes.
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>>170484419
That's what I said, that For Honor isn't Blade Symphony level of dead
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>>170484374
Lawbringer has three whole moves out of his entire moveset dedicated to repositioning the enemy, I'm honestly not sure why you're surprised. Besides, any character can environmental at high level, he just enjoys the salt he generates, I watched the kid eat a literal spoon of salt on stream one day. Try looking up his duels with other high level twitch streamers, you'll see how he can play when he really goes all in on his opponent and is really on point with his defense and parries.
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>>170484064
Oh. That works.
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>>170484348
Yes, especially if he replies to you
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Do I stick with Kensei or switch to Warden/Raider.
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I feel like Valk is 50/50 annoying char after this patch. But what do I know I main peace keeper and I sub main orochi but also play raider and kensei.
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I feel so dumb. I ignored the message saying my drivers were out of date since the games launch. Just noticed the benchmark feature today and I'm chugging at 45 fps in borderless window mode. Did a clean reinstall of the drivers and now I'm up to 70. The difference is astounding.
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>>170483056
WHERE DID ALL THAT ASS COME FROM?

ASIANS DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT
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>>170484949
You could of got more damage off pushing him to the wall into unblockable
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For Honor is nowhere near dead on consoles. This general is just shit.
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>>170485136
It's not dead on PC either

Don't quote steam numbers
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>>170484542
But Kensei is much better than Raider, the fuck are you on.
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>>170484405

pretty sure he means Orochi needs a rework because he only has 2 good moves atm anon

also, i highly doubt Ubisoft is gonna nerf Peacekeeper any time soon

Lawbringer is getting buffs, confirmed
Conq needs to get his i-frame glitch fixed, he also needs more versatility
Warden is fine (Vortex and zone isn't a big deal tbqh)
PK is fine (if/when they buff the slow characters)
Warlord needs to be toned down
Valkyrie is fine
Raider is getting buffs, confirmed
Berserker needs reworks
Kensei might need small adjustments (upwards)
Orochi needs reworks
Nobushi might need small adjustments (upwards)


as always, saying Warden and PK is fine is gonna be controversial, but i think once they buff/fix the lower half of the tier bracket we'll have somewhat decent balance
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>>170485221
It's funny that people quote steam numbers even though the majority got it through uplay
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>>170485134
I beg to differ, when you get a thick asian girl it goes straight to the ass
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>>170485297
Assassins should have half the health they do now.
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Does anybody have a guide on how to fight a PK? Complaining isn't gonna do any good, I have to learn and adapt.
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>>170485256

oh i forgot Shugoki, i think his attacks could be a bit faster
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Post your toughest carries.

Stood on Defender's A point the whole match while my team couldn't hold our own or B - come on faggots work!
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>>170485135

Oh, I know. I'm not sure what I was thinking there.
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>>170485286
What do you think of thick asian guys like Shugoki
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>>170485371
yea that berserker lived way too long
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>>170485134

Some do. I know, I was just as surprised as you were.

There's this one girl I know with a fat fucking ass and she's Chinese. None of that Hank Hill shit going on
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>>170485646

>asian

all the characters in this game are white, anon.
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fresh warden rage
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>>170485286
t. has never met fat asian girls or been casual catfished by fat asian girls
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>>170485729
>that face on the warden

fucking kek, that's golden.
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CONQA CONQA
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>>170483372
"the only thing you can do is run like a bitch"

beaners are the saltiest motherfuckers, either passive aggresive fuckers or just straight salty

t. beaner
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So I recently switched from a dualshock to 360 controller because the former is a shit. Anyway, what's a retard-friendly way of lowering the deadzones?
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Peace keepers usually suck. How many of you run into ones that can successfully Feint into parries, and cancels zone attack properly
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>>170485729
>match against a warden
>load in
>quit to main menu
>search for another match
have fun with that bot you worthless tier whore
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>>170485917

I used that on my warden. Too bad it's become mainstream now.
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>>170485729
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>>170486000
PK players are autistic children. We've established this.
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>tfw just found out I can shield bash from absolute guard as Conq

What the fuck
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>>170486012
xDDDD!!! U SURE SHOWED HIM!!!
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>Are you telling me I can hit anyone?
>No, PK. I'm telling you that when you're ready you won't have to.
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>>170486012
>tier whore
>not playing Warlord
???
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>>170486143
>t. mad warden main who never gets the runback

>>170486195
>warlord
>top tier
>b-b-but muh one tournament!!!!
Nah, warlord is well below warden.
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>>170486115
Nope, I main her but I don't spam so nice try.
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>>170486157
>The Nobushi is out of range with her Nagata but you're hitting her AND SHE'S BEHINDHIND YOU
FUCKING PKs WTF
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Guys...


Xbox Elite Controller or G502?
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>>170486273
gr8 b8 m8
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>>170486375
A non-riced mouse.
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>>170486410
>it's bait if I disagree
great job, you counterbaited me into replying
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>>170486273
>Nah, warlord is well below warden.
Gasp, at last I truly see, this random Spongebob shitposter on a tibetian throat singing board sure showed me with his hot opinions
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>>170486497

>has his own arsenal of spongebob reaction pictures

confirmed still in middle school, keep on and sharing your input little buddy.
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>>170485418

>if you don't play an assassin character, always keep your guard blocked right side for the zone

>practice blocking/parrying the first light attack, it's much slower than the second

>some PK's like to whiff first light for that reason, to try and connect second light (PK's can only chain 2 light attacks before they have to either reset or do a heavy cancel/zone cancel/gb/disengage

>to punish whiff fishing you can time your own counter attack before second light comes out, or you can dodge back or to the side to punish that way, but if PK picks up on it then it boils down to mindgames

>learn to block/parry their rushing lunge attack, it's pretty easy to punish and a lot of bad PK's like to spam it

>PK zone cancel is almost impossible to block/parry on reaction, but most PK's have a pattern of how they use it, either to follow up combos, after gb's or when poking, if you pick up on it you can try to parry (if PK spams zone cancel in 4v4 during revenge it becomes an easy parry)

>if you notice the PK has a habit of dodging backwards after a failed initiate (many do), punish them with guardbreaks

>if the PK manages to land the first light, try to disengage, what follows it is hard to predict/counter as they will go into the lightning fast second light, then either a zone cancel, gb, heavy cancel into zone cancel, heavy cancel into new light attack sequence or a straight up heavy depending on how you react and punish


that's some of the general basics, i'd say the most important thing is first learning to block the first light attack and expecting the zone cancel, once you got that down you shut down most of their offense and it becomes a match of mindgames
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>>170486157
I knew her shit had ridiculous ghost range. Way to go Ubi
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>>170486597
>vortex
>no vortex
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm really making me think here

guess you're right, the one without the vortex is clearly better

>>170486607
I wouldn't say arsenal
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>>170486805

XD!!! LOOK GUYS I PLAY PEACEKEEPER!!! LOOK HOW SALTY THIS GUY IS!!!

>you
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>>170486774
Not a single class in FH has a true vortex

>m-muh rolling stamina costs

Just light attack him or stop playing Raider if you can't

Warden is a one-dimensional flowchart character that can be beaten by anyone who doesn't just spam dodges and cry when they get GB'd whereas Warlord literally has no bad matchups due to the ridiculous swiss army knife toolkit he has
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>>170486662
Whats the best way to catch a PK who doesn't want to fight
(Or at least is out of Stam)
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>>170486375
g502 is a fantastic mouse but I don't have an xbox controller so I can't say how well it works
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>>170486938
>if I put the argument against me in a greentext whiny voice it doesn't count!!!!!
Fuck off, no reason I should be spending half my stamina to avoid his 1/20th stamina move.

>just get ESP and throw out a light before he starts to do the bash
Yeah, I'll get right on that

The fact of the matter is that everything in Warlord's "swiss army" toolkit can be reacted to.
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>>170487127

Huh? How can you react to something that doesn't attack? Nice meme friendo
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>>170487231
By vortexing it with the only character who can open offense.
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What can raider actually do
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>>170487127
There's no way you're going to do well as a Raider against a good player.
As for what you and the other guy said about Warlord's kit is that, yes, it can be reacted to. The only problem is that he literally never has to attack.
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Why would anyone play Raider in a game that has Shugoki?
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>>170487414
That's okay, because warden is the only class in the game that doesn't require the other person to attack and he can just force a guessing game.
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>>170486961

i wouldn't even bother trying to punish an out of stam PK unless it's already been established in the fight that she can't counter guardbreak well (although Warden vortex, Shugoki no-guard rush/gb mixup can work well here)

a defensive PK will fish for parries or try to punish mistakes, this boils down to feinting and mindgames
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>>170487414
>>170487231

b-b-b-but vortex!!!
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Do I just play Warden? I hate that it's top tier and broken but I like it a lot.

The problem is getting me to play it. I never feel 'right' doing it
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I AM THE SUN
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>>170487552

people will hate you and call your class OP/cheese no matter what you play when you beat them, fuck everyone else and play what you think is fun
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>>170487525
>vortex beats defense
>warden has vortex
>warlord has defense
>this means warlord is better for some reason
shove that stammer right up your ass
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How does one become a L E G E N D A R Y RareRaider?
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>>170487127
Did you just literally imply Warlord headbutt startup is easier to react to than Warden shoulder bash startup?

Do you even play the game or did you just come here to shitpost from /v/?
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>>170486662
Thanks mate.
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>>170486961
You have to pay attention when she will get out of stamina before she actually does.
When you see it coming, either dash with her forward and gb or if she is close enough, gb immediately, since the only thing on her mind would be to get back = untech gb.
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>>170487494
>That's okay, because warden is the only class in the game that doesn't require the other person to attack
What are Warlord, Conqueror and Peacekeeper?
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>>170487920
It is FAR easier to react to because dodge will work every time. There's no additional bullshit layers of "oh should I interrupt with an attack or roll away, maybe take my chances with this guessing game.....?" You just fucking dodge, it's the same answer to every question the Warlord can pose.
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Where did all of the good writefags go? I miss them
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>>170487714
1) Stop calling it a Vortex, a move with 4-5 possible ways to react to it is not a Vortex
2) It doesn't "beat defense", it beats reactive play
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How do I warlord? I'm only lv13 with him on my quest to get everyone to rep 1 but in duels I just get shat all over by the endless Wardens, Nobushi's and PKs. All-guard drains my stamina like a bitch and isn't even instant so that's not much help.
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>>170488070
Except it's so fucking fast you have to rely on -some- level of prediction, otherwise the Warlord is just going to fake you out and GB you.

Egads, does the Warlord have a vortex too?
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>>170484043
what
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>>170488184
Are you asking how to look up YouTube videos?
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>>170488070
You can literally dodge the shoulder bash if you space it right and make sure they're actually going for the full thing instead of going for a cancel into guardbreak.
Honestly, I don't say this often, but git gud.
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>>170488049
What is full of shit for 500, Alex?

None of those characters can open offense, ESPECIALLY NOT CONQ

>>170488161
>4-5 possible ways to react
Are you joking?
>dodge
>predict it and attack
Two. Or you're at the mercy of the guessing game.

>>170488291
It's not that fast, nothing in this game is fast and everything can be done on reaction. Let me elaborate, because I'm sure you'll just hop on the greentext train and take that out of context. You react correctly to any other move in the game and you come out positive in terms of stamina trade, when you react correctly to warden's bash you lose more stamina than he spends. The problem is that reacting to it leaves the person who made the right choice at a disadvantage.

>>170488476
>you can literally dodge the shoulder bash if he decides not to use GB
wow thanks buddy I never would've known
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>>170487392
Convert any heavy or dash into a top light stun.
Drain your stamina with his throws.
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So what is this shit even?
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>>170488909
>tfw they actually get goaded by a taunt
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>>170488687
>Conq has the one unblockable charge move with frames so generous he's borderline unpunishable

>dodge, stand there and GB, attack, roll backwards, assassin side dodge attack
inb4 "feint into parry", if he's doing that you can adapt and just do an empty dodge, he can't change his plans on reaction

Shoulder Bash is one of the easiest moves to react to due to its speed. Headbutt is one of the hardest, by comparison. The Warlord is more likely to catch even an experienced player in multiple headbutts over the course of a fight than the Warden is to trap anyone in his """vortex"""
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>>170488998
steel?
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>>170489007
>Sword cuts through angled plate like its fucking butter.

I'm only slightly triggered.
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>>170488998
I don't know, I can't see it with your potato graphics settings.
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>>170488687
>peacekeeper
>can't do shit against defense
>not realizing you can tech a warden guardbreak out of shoulder charge if you don't dodge

I shiggy fucking diggy.
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>kensei main
>play pk
>FREE FUCKING WINS EVERYWHERE
HOLY SHIT MY PARRIES DO SO MUCH PUNISHMENT NOW
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>>170489237
>offense

>>170489173
He was at low health, that means that armor is less effective
also kensei stronk
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>>170489173
THOUSAND TIMES FOLDED
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>>170486363
can you make this emblem
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>>170489419
What does that even mean? "Open offense"?
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>>170489401
you literally dont even have to parry as pk

any fundamentals you learn in this game can be discarded when playing pk
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>>170489554
it means start attacking

if you start attacking I will parry you
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>tfw AFKers in Dominion and other modes
>gear discrepancies
>matchmaking people with no gear against folks with 108, full revenge
>hit an orochi twice and he's got revenge
>have plenty of other games to play but want to play FH

Why am I even still playing this fucking retarded game. What the fuck was Ubisoft thinking
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>>170489664
>>170489664

>afk farm
>get 108 gear
>???
>profit

ppl bitch in this game so much while i just play
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>>170489664

Just play duels and brawls.
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>>170489737
So you triggered revenge in a 1v1 on the 5th round, which you were losing, and won.

What's your point?
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>>170489664
It could be a great game if they fixed some stuff and added more gamemode variety
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>>170489664
Play 1v1 and 2v2?

I've been saying that since release
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>>170489512
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>>170489612
You can't parry a shield bash from Conqueror.
You're not going to parry a PK zone attack.
On top of this, you act as if you'll be getting every single possible parry. You won't.
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>>170488998
it's steel, to replace the wooden armor.
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>>170489816
>>170489876

I don't want to be confined to just two modes of play, one of which is infested with warlords, PKs, and to a lesser aggravating extreme, wardens.

That and I almost always play those two modes exclusively with friends, so it gets tiresome after a while.

I don't know how they didn't foresee some of these bullshit problems
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>>170489086
>>170489932
Why the fuck was that steel in a knight controlled port though? Why was it not in samurai land anyway
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>They didn't max white all their vikings except the Raider who gets to be that first toned white option
>They didn't max white all their samurai except Shugoki who gets that first toned option too
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Why would you not play Ken sama my man
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>>170490190
Because he suffers from a bad moveset much like Orochi?
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>>170489923
You can dodge the shield bash (every time, no mixups) and you can definitely parry that zone.

>>170490190
I do, it makes me feel good about winning. Unlike when I play Warden or Warlord.

Conq, on the other hand is honest and none of his moves are real.
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Post emblems.
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What do I get from completing all campaigns?
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>>170490190
Because in my heart I can't deny pic related
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>>170490425
5k steel and the campaign rewards
>>170490398
I want you to show me a single person who can consistently parry PK zone attack, because you're full of shit.
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>>170490425
Depends on what difficulty and if you go for all the breakables and vistas. If you play on realistic, you get everything.
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>>170490407
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>>170490425
On realistic, a whole bunch of steel, even more steel and a bunch of emblems if you get all the observables and breakables, ornaments for every character.
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>>170490407
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tfw got an afk farming warning for farming in dominion ai.
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>>170490590
>y-you can't consistently do it
That does not make any difference, it can be stopped. Warden cannot be stopped without losing the trade.
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>>170486375
I use the 502 and I've rebought because I like it so much.
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>>170490735
Stopping a Warden is easier than parrying a PK zone attack.
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>>170490735
If you think that a one in a thousand parry based upon luck is easier to get than dodging left or right with proper timing or teching a guardbreak at the right time, you are retarded to the point where I have no idea how you figured out how to access this website.
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>>170490619
Currently playing in hard
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>All the characters we get have to have a covered face to at least some degree
>tfw no spooky faceless Rajput to shit on kniggers with and reap tears
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>>170490902
Wrong.

You cannot attack before the warden uses his bash with every character if you are reacting to it, you're forced to roll away and you lose that trade.

>>170490980
Besides, I can just block your zone and get back to neutral, you can't block a bash.
You can dodge all the other bashes, but not Warden, he's special and gets different rules!
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do we have a booru for this game yet? wanna see some applelion stuff
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>>170490407
plz no bully
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>>170491252
le naruto ninjutsu faggutsu sugay lmao
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>>170491083
>she can literally zone attack whenever and you can't change stance in time
As for the bash, that's where you're wrong. Judging by what I've seen in this thread, it's exclusively *you* who can't dodge the shoulder charge. Apparently, myself and the others in this chat can do it despite it being impossible to according to you.
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>>170491252
I was going to compliment the first thing I saw but then I saw the rest
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>>170491252
>a snail
>the punisher
>melting poke-ball?
>a ninja turtle?
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>>170491252
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>>170491252
>Samurai
>Two Naruto, one Soul Eater and one Ghost in the Shell
At least you know that you're a weeb. I applaud the Laughing Man emblem though, considering I've yet to see one other than yours.
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>>170491252
>"Oh hey a GitS emblem, maybe anon has good taste in anime"
>click
>Naruto

Horrible.
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>>170491252
as a weeb I am embarrassed for you
nice laughing man tho
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>>170490729
Thought they said warnings Thursday. Still havnt got a warning and ive afk'd like 23 prestige and 130k steel.
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>>170491374
>Apparently, myself and the others in this chat can do it despite it being impossible to according to you.
Let's go through some scenarios
>warden starts to bash
>you dodge
>warden has cancelled into GB, you get hit with a light combo
>ok he's starting to bash again, I've learned from my mistake last time and I'll wait it out for the GB
>he does the regular bash and hits with lights
>okay he's starting to bash for a third time, clearly dodging and GB don't work, I'll try rolling
>I'm out of stamina
Yes, I can "counter" it by rolling away. I lose more stamina in that situation than the warden did.
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Insta-kill demon's embrace when at critical health. Balanced or bad design?
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>>170491076
nobody wants to play a >designated class
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>>170491083
>>170491374
PK zone attack 1st hit is 8-9 frames, iirc all chars have an 8 frame stance switch from neutral.
So you literally can't block that most of the time without blocking beforehand, and the indicator abuse makes it a guessing game since her top lights are only 14 frames, so you have about 6 to decide that she isn't dong the zone to switch in time.
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>>170491678
considering that even blind people can see it, hear it, and a simple dodge in any direction or hit can cancel it.

I say balanced, but not in group combat at all.
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>>170491736
Good thing Warden has the same thing that forces you to block left at all times and react to the other directions.
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Which one of these cuties should I dump my Steel into, Warden or Valkyrie?
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>>170491678
the best thing ever

nothing like dodging back and instakilling an assassin class because they don't understand that a shugoki dodging back does not mean run straight at him

and it's apparently unknown each time i do that it does more damage the less health he has
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>>170491252
I'm torn, I'll give you the right side, but then the left side.
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>>170491646
Or
>warden starts to bash
>you wait for the animation to follow through
>you dodge before he hits you, allowing you to punish
>ok he tries again, you wait again
>goes for the guardbreak this time
>since the animation doesn't follow through, you don't dodge and you counter the guardbreak
It's not nearly as impossible as you're making it out to be.

>>170491840
Warden and Orochi zone attack are *nothing* like PK zone attack, no matter how much people cry over them. They you can react to them, albeit it can be ludicrously difficult due to the stance indicator bug.
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>>170483196
I can't believe the fucking patience and restraint this guy has holy fuck
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>>170491371
>>170491437
>>170491570
>>170491587
>>170491616
>>170491956

to be fair i dont even watch naruto and only have those ones because it makes people fucking froth at the mouth with anger, i genuinely love soul eater and ghost in the shell though
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should I learn PK or Orochi? I main Lawbreaker.
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Holy fuck can Orochi be giant faggots
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>go 17-3 in elimination with my rep 7 0 gearscore law
>still lose

why are people so retarded
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>>170492117
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Anyone else found the community to actually be pretty fun tonight?
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>>170492059
>I main Lawbreaker.
Conqueror?
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>>170491993
Noticed my mistake, ignore the "They" in the second sentence in the second response

>>170492037
It's also the fact that you see them *everywhere.* Soul Eater less so, and GitS not at all.

>>170492059
For overall viability, PK. Orochi suffers from only having two good attacks. Regardless, he can still be a blast to play
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>>170491678

its fun, but very dumb. If you gb into a wall you get a guaranteed demon's embrace. But like everything in this game its unbalanced and gimmicky. Still a pretty fun game though
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>>170491840
Warden's zone is 12 frames, so about 50-33% slower than PK's, and is punishable by untechable GB.
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>>170492202
Thats considered fun to you?

Crazy.
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so i should only open these at prestiege 3 right?
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>>170491678
I dislike it.
I feel that he has far too much of his power budget invested in a single move, given its damage and the heal, I'd rather they just give him more health since it feels really gimmicky, to be able to win of a single input.
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Are the game's mechanics based on time or frames?
I notice that it'll drop me if my fps drops below 30.
Does this mean all timing is done on 30? Does that mean getting 60+ fps does nothing?
If it's on time, does getting more fps give an advantage?
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>>170492409
or 4 if you can hold it
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>Why is the game dying so fast?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PNzbmYEGO0
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>>170492409
Rep 3 or higher, yeah.
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>>170492478
>does not understand what frame rate is: the post
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>>170492485
Hovered over imbed, did not watch

>M-muh boogeyman
>Muh online poleeticks
>>
There's a secret to maximizing your enjoyment of For Honor:

Never try to git gud.
Never try to farm or grind.
Don't pick a main - let a main pick you.
Don't care about losing.
Don't force it.

Just play a couple games a day when you feel like it, then go do something else for a while.

The grinders, the streamers, the AFK farmers - they're all going to DROP this in a week or two.

This isn't a good enough game for esports or salt. Maybe some day it or a sequel will be. For now? Just fuck around, have a good time, don't take it so seriously. The duels you will have under rep1 are way, way more fun than anything the rep4+ crowd are experiencing. If anything, this game PUNISHES you for winning because you get dumped into their garbage queues sooner.
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>>170491678
not a fan

backbreaker by itself is a pretty big health swing and the instakill is sort of unnecessary given how much damage fatboy does

it's essentially meaningless since it rarely hits in a 1v1 situation like that but i'd rather just have it be consistent anyway
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I don't get why this thing says I'm totally average with KDR but then I'm top 1% by it's own weird metric
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>>170492738
I mean, hey, it's fun seeing people freak out for a moment when you do something so retarded it works.
>>170492937
It's notoriously inaccurate. Don't even bother with it.
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>>170491678

As a decent shugoki, I can tell you that it feels like complete bullshit every time I do it.

Nothing should instakill.

Then again, smart players know I'll be looking for it when my health gets low and will switch up their playstyle to account for it...

Or maybe that's just what I want them to think I think they think.
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>>170488184
Nobushi is a hard matchup. Just get in on her however you have to and be ready to dodge the kick or light attack her out of it. Her lights are easy to parry giving you a free headsplitter into head butt stab.

Handle warden the same way you do with anyone else, block left and throw out constant lights so he can't vortex you. You're right light is very fast. Trade with your zone if you have to, you will win every time.

VS PK, keep your guard top if she is mid range to parry the lunge. If she's close block right for the zone. If she is only throwing lights then all block and heavy. Spam GB on her and use zone attack if she is poking in and out. Feint into GB will hit most PK players. If they go for dash attacks, just remember that they can only attack the direction they dash. Easy parry into GB for 1/4 of their hp. Head butt stab isn't really worth it vs PK.
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>>170487683
>not using a sun shaped flail head.

You fucked up
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>check reddit about the afk email
>the amount of mad that people afk'd is off the charts
>these same people are ok with grinding 100+hours to get prestige 30 and barely getting enough steel to buy a mythic set for a single character
Wonder how long its going to take for someone to post about steel prices now that afk is gone.
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just had a game where a 108 geared guy literally had ALL of his feats within 2 minutes of gametime

how is this possible? am i missing something? it was in skirmish 4v4 and he literally didnt kill anyone prior to having everything
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>>170490407
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>>170490407
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>>170493326
And my versatility!
>>
Wildlands is pretty good too but not as good as 4 Honor/Ledges
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>>170493221
>barely getting enough steel to buy a mythic set
I could have bought at least three by now, have never AFK farmed and I've already missed several days worth of orders.
>>170493264
There's a power up that gives you full feats for a short period of time. Might have used that.
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>>170493462

Ubisoft Presents DayZ?
Nobody above the age of 14 cares.
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>>170485646
hot
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this happened 4 times in our set, uhh?
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Are unblockables impossible to deflect?

I'm ready to put my head through my fucking monitor.
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>want to play a new character for variety and so i don't get bored
>can't stop bringing the law
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Is Demon's Embrace 100% guaranteed after a wall bounce? I've had Berzerkers and Peacekeepers dodge out of it, but I'm wondering if I just wasn't fast enough with the input.
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>>170493326
>>170493417
woh

>>170493761
In my experience, yes. I've never been able to successfully deflect an unblockable attack as any of the assassins.
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Anyone else barely able to play on PS4? Disconnected 4 matches in a row. webm related was the 4th. Round one, right at the beginning I disconnected right after this
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>>170493868

Supposedly 100%, yeah.
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>>170493761
>going for deflects instead of parries, ever, in any context
Why?
>>
>Play with geared character and have fun all day
>Play ungeared character and get so angry I ragequit while in a group
Fuck revenge
This shit makes me want to never level characters up
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>>170493928
style points
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>>170493928
Because it literally doesn't matter if you're playing Berserker; you get a free guardbreak either way. As for Orochi and PK, sometimes it's faster and easier to do than parrying due to not having to move from buttons to stick.

Also it looks cool.
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>>170493221
There was a good post on this but the forhonor reddit is 90% shitty memes til the casuals leave so it wasn't visible for long.

https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/5xez65/basic_facts_of_ubisofts_steel_system/
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>>170494024
thats honestly the problem with gear

if it matched you with just geared people it would be fine but right now itll match a level 1 against a 108 geared guy and that just encourages no to ever play an alt in 4v4
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>>170493868
you have to time it, since there's a window inbetween an ungrabbable animation and recovery where it's guaranteed

if you're right up next to the wall you have to do it instantly, otherwise you have to wait a lil bit for it to connect properly
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>>170491736
>iirc all chars have an 8 frame stance switch from neutral.
no
some go as high as 20-22
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>>170493868
It's less about input speed and more about distance from the wall when you throw. The enemy needs some time to stumble, the wall needs to not be too close.
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>>170494107
The deflect guardbreak is worse, since it has reduced duration. You get a throw but not a heavy.

>buttons to stick
Nevermind, pad warriors continue to prove themselves to be dumbasses.
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>>170493012
>I mean, hey, it's fun seeing people freak out for a moment when you do something so retarded it works.
>play kensei
>throw out a top light
>it hits
>wait a brief moment
>throw out another top light
>it hits
>immediately throw another top light
>it hits
>wait a few seconds, it looks like he's about to take his turn
>throw out a top light
>it hits
Genuinely satisfying
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>>170494507
>implying every single player is on PC
>implying everyone using a controller wants to shill out cash just for extra buttons on the other side of it
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>>170494627
>playing a fighting game (lite) at 30 FPS

I bet you prefer 4v4 modes.
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>>170493716
kensei's parry GB is not real, scrubs are the only people who tell you it is

it only works if you're very close, but you can almost never land it on a nobushi or fellow kensei
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Should i start bashing? Is he fun?
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>>170490729
>>170491630

meanwhile i afk farmed AI dominion 3 rep levels and got a straight up 3 day suspension with no warnings

they must be doling out these punishments by throwing darts at a list of names


i'm not complaining though, i knew the risks, i fought the law and the law won, row row
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>>170494627

Everyone that matters is on PC.
If you're not, you're just an idiot.
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>>170494595
This is like half of my 1v1 warden wins. It's a great strat with the guy since lucky timing is a free big unblockable.
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>>170493928
If you're facing a character with longer range, deflecting is normally the way to go
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Why would you want a lot of rep and good gear? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the game being a challenge?
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>>170494798
Out of curiosity have you played any other ubi games/got a warning in those? My account is only like a month old since closed beta.
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>>170495145
Not if you play 2v2 or 1v1, where gear is only cosmetic
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>>170495145
It defeats the purpose of the game being fun.
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>>170484043
I don't know why but I laughed for a good 10 seconds at that.

Anyway, what's up my dude?
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>such a pathetic waste of space that my poor performance at the end of a lonely, unproductive day (every day) pushes me over the edge into hopelessness
Any other fellows familiar with this experience? :^)
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>>170494798
To be honest though, three days of lost time isn't all that bad considering you got 3 reps out of it
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>>170495373
This game doesn't have to die.

TRIAL BY COMBAT

RIGHT NOW
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>>170494798
I went afk in a group of 4 every night to get that 23 rep so no one has reported me once.
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Good god fighting a warden that exploit all his tools is the most boring shit ever.
>Inb4 git gud lol
I'm not saying he's op, just dull to fight against, almost as dull as a fully defensive orochi.
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>>170495467
Been imagining my own death in various ways for over a year now.
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>tfw you win a mirror match against a guy who bought the fancy mythic set
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>guy knows he's losing the straight fight so he runs off to ledges for the instakill (legitimate strategy, dont blame him)
>does not go as he planned

Feels good man.
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>>170494790
bump, is conq just bash heavy all the time or can he mix things up and be more fun?
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wait so whats this about afking being fixed?

i was just about to start afking my warden to rep 3...im not about to que into faggots with 1 gs...
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>>170495748
He's Bash Light unless you wall bounce them.
If you're against good players, that's all there is to him. If you're against people who aren't, then you can really have some fun with him.
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>>170495686
>(legitimate strategy, dont blame him)
I love you, let's hang out and throw rocks at trains
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>>170495929
>All those effects obscuring the enemy
That shit looks legit disadvantageous to use
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>>170495686

>Start of the webm
>You're out - OUT - of stamina
>the dude doesn't aggress

wtf did you DO to the poor guy?
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>>170488998
Packs of instant ramen noodles
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>>170495686
Why are people in 2v2 worse than 4v4
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>>170496057
>looking at the enemy instead of the gameplay triangle
never going to make it
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Anyone else have a glitch where symbols and emblems are just white blocks on your character?
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>>170490407
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mfw "Error0006000037" is exactly 15 characters long. The name is already taken. Probably the best name in this game.
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>>170496230
>Needing reticules
WEAK
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>>170496230

lolwut

all the whining about PK is by people who don't know to watch the character animations instead of the idiot-lights.
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>>170495248

nah, haven't played anything but For Honor

another weird thing is that the two emails i got from Ubisoft were in Japanese, kinda strange.

>>170495486

yeah it's not too bad, i could use a break anyway, been playing too much, basically just afk farmed when i slept and played when i was awake

the thing is, i only afk farmed on my second character, i played legit all the way on my first one to rep 3 and beyond, but fuck having to only play duel/brawl/dominion AI while leveling a new character because 4v4 is broken and not having max gearscore turns it into a gang rape

i usually leave exploits alone, but when games are this poorly designed i don't feel bad abusing whatever i can

>>170495523

probably one of the smarter ways to do it, but i'd be careful doing even that from now on
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This is probably the only stuff that gets me angry in this game. The entire game error'd out, of course.

Being a baby about getting thrown off is gay enough, but being a baby about it after you just tried to do it to someone else and fucked up is on another level.
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>Tfw you're on a date with your shy Conqwaifu but you have hemorrhoids
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>solo q 2v2
>get a vastly shitty human on my team
>vs a tryhard duo enemy team

This shit is disgusting
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>>170496347
if you just hold in the direction of her zone you have nothing to worry about

>>170496336
Nah I beat the campaign solo on release night. The indicator is helpful
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>>170496325
Please stop posting pictures of the wife.
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>>170496347
>Watch her animations as she flails out attacks faster than 4 classes can stance swap to stop

A REAL PRO TIP MY MAN
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>>170496623
>Nah I beat the campaign solo on release night
You better have done it on realistic, ye ass
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>>170496535

Rage quits are delicious.
Why would you not be deeply satisfied with a rage quite?
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OFFICIAL TIER LIST

UBISHIT FIX THIS BROKEN P.O.S TIER: Valk, PK, Warlord, Conq

HIGH TIER: Nobushi, Orochi, Warden

MID TIER: LB, Berserker

LOW/BRO TIER: Shugoki, Raider, Kensei

FITE ME FAGGOTS
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If I get a disconnect error, does everyone else leave the game as well? I hate looking like a rage quitter.
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>>170496561
I prefer my Raidwaifu. She's dominant and, above all else

'''''L E G E N D A R Y'''''
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>>170496561
>memepool emblem
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>>170496654
You must be a cuck.
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>>170496776
B L A C K E D
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>>170496747
this is a pretty pleb list man
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>>170496747

>Shugoki, Kensei
>Low tier

haha holy shit

>LB & Berserker mid tier

You don't even play this game. Get out.
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>>170496747
>Orochi
>Not the most middling of mid tiers in this game

He got really poor, really quick once everyone got to see everything he could do within like a day of release.
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>PK main says the aren't OP
>ask them to give 1 reason she isn't OP, just 1 single flaw she has
>"There isn't any, she is perfectly balanced."

Jesus christ. "there are no flaws to this character, they are balanced" How are people this delusional.
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>>170496747

your lack of insight is obvious, arguing with you would be useless
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>>170496724
I actually usually am, I have an entire folder of ragequit screenshots, but I'm closing in on Rep 2 and really want the XP. So a game-killing ragequit pisses me off.
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>>170494190
Reminds me of Dirty Bomb's credits and cases. The house always wins is the new mindset
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>>170496747
>Berserker mid tier
>Shugoki low tier

really bad b8 m8
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>>170496717
Why would I have picked anything except the hardest difficulty?

You think I'm a child?
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>>170490407
I can't get this to look right
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>>170496405
Il probably stop thursday when they patch it as i don't have a keyboard with macros and id rather not use AHK to afk.
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>>170496839
Why are you mocking it while also posting Deadpool. Besides, that's spiderman. I lost my webbing in Vietnam
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>>170496932
>Shugoki
>meme gimmick shit that is super readable and punishable

>Kensei
>literally gets bullied in corners if just a tiny bit of pressure is presented

>implying zerker or LB are not mid tier after the tourneys

Get the fuck out
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>>170497027
Cuz you a big burger ass bitch
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>>170497082
>meme gimmick
>after the tourneys
You're not even trying desu
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>>170496839
>Implying there's anything wrong with Deadpool really past shit like Way's awful written material on him
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>>170496895
I like her as black as my coffee.
We're talking literally absorbs all of the light around her
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Just a reminder: If you play Valk you are DSP
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PLEASE TELL ME WHEN THEY ARE NERFING FUCKING WARLORD FOR GOOD!

Seriously, every other Dominion game, "Hurrdurr IM WarLORD!!! Hurrdurr 500 health 500 defence HurrDURR Did U FORGET U HAVE TO KILL ME tWICE?? HURRDURR 30 Hits ReveNGE 30 HITS again Revenge HEADBUTT Revenge HEADBUTT PoiSE ATTACK 30 HITS REVENGE REINCARNATIONS 30 HITS REVENGE REVENGE BLOCK HEADBUTT REVENGE REINCARNATION"

HURRDURR im WARLORD I Cheese the tournament with headbutt!! Hurrr hurr im warlord I make the devs look like a laughing stock!! hurrhurr yes I am a disgusting overweight neckdruid yes I play warlord yes I live in mothers basement."

IIIIII CAAAAAAAAANT FUCKKKKINNNNNNGG DOOO IT AANNYYMOREE
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>>170496747
The actual tier list

OP Broken Tier: Valk, PK, Warlord

High Tier: Warden, Conq, Nobushi

Mid Tier: Shugoki, Orochi, Kensei

Low tier: Raider, Zerker, LB
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>>170497003
I put 950 hours into Dirty Bomb, here's my opinion on cases/credits/unlocks

Decidedly not P2W

>You start with the two best characters
>You start with enough money to buy the top tier card for both of them
>Characters don't take an exceedingly long amount of time to unlock, and their best loadouts are just pennies more
Now, I'll be the first one to admit that it gets a little jewish above bronze tier cards, but since they are functionally identical I don't see any issues with that

>>170497192
#rood
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>>170497082
>he doesn't know about shugoki's unparryable swings
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>>170497361
move warden up and you got it on the money
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>>170490407
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>>170497361
>Nobushi in High tier
>Orochi in Mid tier
Explain
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>>170497082
>>Shugoki
>meme gimmick shit that is super readable and punishable

If you are referring to Demon's Embrace, it's guaranteed after a shove into a wall.

Shugoki's main tools are super armor, headbutt, and lights that don't stagger against all-block.

He's one of the few characters in the game that doesn't lose all of his good options against a good turtle. Warlords and conqs have to play scared as fuck.
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>>170490407
>tfw you start seeing more and more people make AdMech emblems
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>>170497658
You actually need an explanation?
>>
>Top Tier
Warlord (needs to be toned down)
Conq (needs more versatility and less shield bash spam, need to fix i-frame glitch on side-step shield bash)
Warden (no changes needed, should be in balance with other chars after they get fixed)
PK (no changes needed, should be in balance with other chars after they get fixed)
Shugoki (could use faster attacks tbqh)
Valk (no changes needed, should be in balance with other chars after they get fixed)

>Mid Tier
Kensei (could use slight improvements)
Nobushi (could use slight improvements)

>Bottom Tier
Orochi (needs a rework, more versatility)
Raider (confirmed by Ubi to get buffs soon)
Lawbringer (confirmed by Ubi to get buffs soon)
Berserker (needs a rework, more versatility)
well that's my objective and unbiased opinion anyway
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>>170496895
>black femRaider

Excellent taste.
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>>170497816
my change on that list would be for the warden to not be able to cancel the shoulder bash into a gb, because that shit is cancer
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>>170497951
As I said before, she is best waifu.
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when is it advisable to use defense instead of attack and stamina?
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>>170483056
sauce
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Is it okay to play Warlord if I'm bad?
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>>170492738
>Never try to git gud
Why? If you never improve you'll always lose to the same old shit, which is frustrating.
>Never try to farm or grind
The mindless grind has never bothered me. It let's you play the game and have fun at a lower intensity with lower stakes.
>Don't pick a main - let a main pick you
Couldn't agree more with this. I'll never understand how people can force themselves to play a character they hate based purely off of tier lists or other bs.
If the character's fighting style matches your own then go for it.But at the same time, there's nothing wrong with trying something new if you're frustrated .
>Don't care about losing
Could not disagree more. Refer back to my rebuttal about gitting gud
>Don't force it
Agreed. If you're on tilt there's nothing worse for you than trying to power through it.
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>>170498540
It's not inherently wrong to play Warlord regardless of skill.
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>>170498540
it's okay to play warlord whenever you want.

he's definitely the most frustrating character in the game to fight but I have no problem with people playing him. if you enjoy him or like winning there's really no reason not to pick him.

he really just has it all though haha. so many times i catch him with a feint and forget that I can't just light attack him to interrupt his incoming heavy attack. like, oh yeah, besides the heatseeking free damage headbutts and the amazing throws and the all-block free damage and the fast normals and the ridiculous amount of hp, he also has super armour on his heavies. like it's just hard to take into account ALL of his bullshit at once when I'm thinking what to do next.
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>>170496654
but nobushi is pure

>>170497816
Most of my losses as a nobushi happen when I either overextend, get cornered and spammed out, or gangraped. I'm not really sure she needs a buff for my scrubbery, save for the third one. Hard to play effectively, but she works great when you play around her weaknesses.
>>
What's the best controller for this game? Or is the game locked to only accept PS/XB?
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>>170498708

I was being glib.
A better way to phrase it would be;
"Don't get mad about losing."

You can learn from mistakes and from getting outplayed without getting frustrated.
>>
many balance problems in this game would be fixed if they just made the whole cast change guard stances at the same pace
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>>170497816
spotted the warden main
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>>170499096

nope
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>>170497816
PK and valk are OP, warden to a lesser extent

nobushi and kensei are two characters in the game I would consider balanced and fine as they are

orochi is mid tier
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>>170499215
post your character select screen then
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>>170498947
Whatever you're more comfortable with.
The real divide is between KBM and controller. Some people like the ability to have a finger on GB and change stance at the same time, some people hate the way guards are tied to mouse position.

If you're going to use a controller though I recommend using one with paddles (buttons on the back).
It lets you circumnavigate the problem of having to remove your thumb from the stick while still using a controller. Some people have had success using the Xbox Elite controller but there are other more affordable options
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>>170499421
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>>170497816
So is the "Orochi is OP" meme finally dying?
>>
Law buff when?
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>>170499647

KBM can bind stances to individual keys while retaining mouse stance. Objectively better, especially for 1v2+ situations.
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>>170499715

no, shitters still complain about him
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>>170499719
Probably in 2-3 weeks.
Devs confirmed he needed a buff on stream along with Raider so it has a very high chance of happening
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>Trying do do AI dominion for the daily
>Almost finished with the game
>It crashes
This game is going to be fucking dead in no time if I can't even complete fucking bot games
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>>170499647
I wonder if a custom fighting controller could work.
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>>170499715
Was it ever really a meme? It was moreso just shitters being terrible at the game and getting anally annihilated by a scrub stomper.
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>>170499654
>afk farmer
As if your rep even matters now

I fought a rep 12 Kensei in mythic on my level 10 Kensei and completely trashed him, I guess steel can't buy skill
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>>170499715
I never thought Orochi was OP.
Just pointlessly annoying, it also doesn't help that 95% of people that play Orochi are complete dweebs.
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>>170499654
>Greetings warrior, we banned you.

Wow, they fucking gave you a pet nickname and told you to get the fuck out.

Fuck you too ubi.
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>>170499857
Hitbox releases the newly created "Honorbox"
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>>170499857

The best thing would be something like the old Virtual On arcade sticks, with some extra buttons in convenient places.
>>
why are the weebs constantly getting destroyed in the faction war

i thought for sure they would have the most people
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>>170499860

is this when i say "good luck playing that level 10 Kensei in a 4v4" and you say "i don't play those shit game modes"?

i mean, i prefer duels and brawls as well, but they give shit xp, most orders are in elim and dominion, and sometimes i just like to chill and enjoy the mayhem in 4v4's, but it's NOT FUN if you aren't rep3+ with max gear score because of the shitty match making
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>>170500047
According to Reddit polls, it goes Knights>Weebs>Nords
For some reason, the faction with the fewest players is the most dominant.
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>>170500050

XP is a penalty, not a reward.
All it does is get you worse matchmaking.
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>>170500050
>is this when i say "good luck playing that level 10 Kensei in a 4v4" and you say "i don't play those shit game modes"?
yeah

>most orders are in elim and dominion
nobody is forcing you to do the missions
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>>170500047
war is multiplat
console kids are uncomfortable with anything but knight
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>>170499760
Wouldn't holding stances as an assassin be a pain in the ass, or is it push to toggle stance?
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>>170497816
>warden, pk, valk
>all "fine"

What world do you live in?
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>>170499410
>Nobushi main who picked up Kensei recently
I like you. Seriously, both are fun, reasonably balanced and not reliant on some retarded gimmick
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>>170500136
>>170500047
Been said many time that the more populated a faction is, the less war assets they get.
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>>170500204
I beg to fuckin' differ. On PS4, I've been almost exclusively seeing Vikings and Weebs. The only recent time I've seen a knight was yesterday in a Dominion match.
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>>170500320
Still, because of this the Weebs should be in second while the Knights get their teeth kicked in. For some reason, this isn't the case, and the knights are actively keeping up with the Vikings while the weebs get fucked hard without any lube.
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>>170500302

what i mean anon, is that after all the other characters have been adjusted, i think those 3 will/should be in balance with the rest at a high skill level in a 1v1 or 2v2 scenario

i don't think any of them are OP, i think they are better than many characters yes, but there's no point in nerfing them and leaving the weak characters broken, i'd rather see the weak characters get fixed and then see how they measure up against those
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>>170500441
That's only been recently, before that weebs mostly dominated with the kangz making a last second comeback and Knights stagnating.
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Goddamnit, as soon as I try to play a character that's shit but fun, I start getting matched against rep 5-6 PKs.

Fuck this shit. I guess I should just play Warlord or Conq.
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>>170500602
>before that weebs mostly dominated
what kind of revisionist history is this?
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>>170500309
I get kind of annoyed when I have to fight good nobushis but I wouldn't say she's OP

kensei lives up to le honest meme, he doesn't really have any stupid gimmicks, just a good feint game

>>170500552
this is a reasonable standpoint but as of now I as a LB main cannot beat a decent valk player. every other character is doable for me but valk, she went from low tier to insane
>>
I'm fucking tired to deploy a fuckload more efforts to bring someone down just because I'm Raider.
What class can I play that can put me on a more equal foot without being fucktarded level of broken either?
>>
>Someone that used to be a close friend of mine says that he mains warden
>Literally Lucifer in personality, except instead of Dark Souls it's For Honor
>Believes that PK is entirely outclassed by Orochi in every possible way
I know murder is illegal, but do you guys think the cops/jury would sympathize?

>>170500631
Play Warlord if you want. He's fun and fits almost any playstyle.
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>>170500694
Really I just wish more mechanical heroes existed. I went knights yet my two mains are weebs and my two off mains are vikings; don't like any of the knights period.

Nobu is definitely balanced, could use her stance switching being buffed to par though.
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>>170500694
>this is a reasonable standpoint but as of now I as a LB main cannot beat a decent valk player. every other character is doable for me but valk, she went from low tier to insane

how familiar are you with the matchup? do you know all her combos and punishes?

the question isn't entirely fair since LB's are in a pretty bad place right now, so please don't be offended, but i think too many people speak out on balance issues without fully understanding match-ups, again, not saying that's true in your case
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>>170500807
Try some Warden with minimal shoulder bash usage. If that's not your cup of tea, play Berserker , Nobushi or Kensei. Maybe Orochi if you really want to.
>>
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>170500952
Yeah I'd prefer a vanguard, I don't really like the "specialist" classes.
While he hold up just fine if I don't try to cheese everyone?
I mean it works but it's super dull.
>>
why the fuck am I erroring out of every matchmaking attempt reeeee
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>>170500914
the main problem is that valk can attack and change directions before I can because of the guard stance switching speeds, I can't break her combos because they're too fast for LB himself to keep up with. its not that big a deal with PK because she lacks the disables that valk has, but valk has the fast attacks, the disables, and the range to really fuck LB hard
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>>170501065
>While he hold up just fine if I don't try to cheese everyone?

Meant Will*
Will he hold up just fine*
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>>170501038
>babies fighting babies
I don't see the problem here, you're in the mode that negates gear and they're only 30 levels higher than you

and levels don't matter
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>>170501065
He still works fantastically. I'm currently rep 1 on Warden exclusively from using this, and it's surprisingly fun. Crush Counter is my fetish and I wish that it was on Conqueror or Lawbringer.
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>>170500807

Shugoki is pretty much raider-but-not-shitty
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>>170499715
I hope so. Regardless of what character I play I never have trouble with him.
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When are we getting a fucking second balance patch?

Ubisoft can't be looking at their numbers and feeling okay currently.
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>>170501038
rep 2 is still pretty new
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>>170501240
Guess I'll play some Warden until Raider get his buff then.
Raider is my favorite but it's just frustrating to play him in his current state.
Have to feint like a motherfucker just to get a light in at best if I'm fighting someone who have as much as a working neuron
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>>170498098
nah, just increase stam consumption of his shoulder bash and the entire character is instantly fixed
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>>170501159

not him but i've been meaning to ask about this

do you heavy players swap guard stance around trying to keep up with your opponent? isn't it best to leave it in one guard and only react to actual attacks? first guard stance switch is the same speed on every character isn't it? as far as i know the slower guard stance change only comes into the picture when you repeatedly swap
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>>170500631
PK might not be the best character, but she's definitely the most frustrating to fight when you're one of the slow guys. I lost this match terribly overall, but I get happy enough when I take any round on a Peacekeeper.

I think the LB vs Peacekeeper matchup would instantly be 5x better if her zone attack counted as a light instead of a heavy for parrying purposes. I mean, it wouldn't be THAT much easier to win, but it'd be more satisfying when you call her out and catch the zone.
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>>170501209
>>170501328
>>170501038
LEGENDARY
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>>170501372
>tfw you're a warlord main
>tfw you hate the way a bunch of characters are utterly unviable
>tfw you know that you'll be hit hard with nerfs inevitably
At least some other characters might get the chance to shine. Hopefully the nerfs don't result in it becoming a sheer Warden PK meta.
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>>170501431
>do you heavy players swap guard stance around trying to keep up with your opponent? isn't it best to leave it in one guard and only react to actual attacks?
that's the idea, but good players will initiate with a feint to counteract that
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>successfully parry Kensei, Shugoki, or Nobushi
>can't punish them

xD
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>>170495491
WHAT? Fight you? That's not a trial...
That's an execution.
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>>170501596
They need to fix how offense is performed overall, fixing Conq/Warlord/PK won't make the game fun to play when the smartest move is to sit there and do nothing.

>>170501669
>parrying doesn't work if the attacker spaces themselves properly
wow offense that doesn't get a free punish, who would've thought?
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>warlord bots in 4v4 are in permanent revenge
cancer even when played by ai
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>>170501758
To be fair, in the case of Conq, it's all he can do regardless. Almost all of his moves are terrible.
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>>170485519
>peaceshitter
gj, must have been really really difficult :^)
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>Orochi says that I'm shit for playing Shugoki because he takes no skill.
>Point out he's playing Orochi.
>"Ya a class that takes skill!"
>mfw
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hahahaa you faggots get so mad when I run away to grab buffs and gank in elimination hahaha
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Post dream patch notes. For me it's:

>increase stamina consumption of warden's shoulder bash
>slight increase to the stam consumption of conq's dodge>shield bash
>either slow down pk's zone or remove her ability to cancel the second hit
>speed up lawbringer's shove>light attacks to the point where it's somewhat difficult but not impossible to block
>allow lawbringer to shove after a feint
>possibly give lawbringer super armor on a few of his attacks? idk
>either slow down warlord's headbutt, remove the guaranteed follow-up poke, or make it to where it's part of a combo instead of just allowing him to do it whenever he fucking feels like it
>buff raider and zerk somehow idk
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>Nobushi's slow walk

MUH
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>>170502223
hahahaha the second someone runs away to get buffs and gank I do the exact same thing so there is no change hahaha
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shove isn't THAT bad guys . . right . .
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>>170502303
how the fug do you walk on pc
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>>170502365
press x
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>>170494758
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UBISOFT FUCKING NERD PK INTO THE FUCKING GROUND
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>>170493716
The problem is he went for a rushing grab, not a straight up grab. If he would've just pressed grab he would've done that sliding animation to you and gotten it. The rushing part delays it a tiny bit, enough that it's techable.

>>170494758
For Nobushi, Kensei, Lawbringer and SOME of Shugoki's moves, it depends on if you're parrying a light or a heavy. Parry a light, free guardbreak. Parry a heavy, almost almost always too far away for a guardbreak, you have to settle for a light.

For instance, in this webm near the end I parry a valk light, which I could have converted into almost anything I wanted (including a free Blind Justice, but this was cooler). Parrying a heavy still wouldn't let me get a guard break against Valkyrie, but not this impaling rush or the undodgable Blind Justice.
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>>170502658
buddy cop law and conq takin it easy in the office with cute femwarden bringing in donuts

got a neat glitch in my last game
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>>170502658
Someone running away from Shugoki and he gets all sad and says, "I just wanna play the game..."
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>>170502758
You can get GB off heavy parries as ken, you just need to be in their face and negating your range advantage.
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If you actually gank a Gear 108 player who's not near a hazard you sincerely need to fucking kill yourself.

>HUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR HOW ABOUT I RUN AND GANK SO THIS FAGGOT CAN GET REVENGE LITERALLY EVERY 2 SECONDS DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>170502658
either this
>>170502787
or lawbro's sick impale execution while pk watches and swoons
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>>170502912
I meant fighting against those characters, not playing as those characters, sorry for not making myself clear.
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>>170502787
I've had that happen to me twice now

I won both matches, who needs to see?
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>>170502289
can we just get fucking chained heavies to be unparryable and chained lights to not bounce off block

something to make the game not defensive and boring
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How do you deal with warlord's headbutt or headbutt/stab?
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>>170502924
well you cant see gearscore outside of the loading screen
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>>170503116
Dodge to the side before it hits you
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>>170503180
Yeah that doesn't work most of the time due to the crazy ass tracking it has.
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>>170503180
Is it just like pre-patch GB? You have to know when it's coming, or is it reasonable to be able to see it and dodge on reaction?
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>>170503150
>in4mous420
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so did people really get banned for afking?
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Trying this Skirmish AI order really makes me fucking hate the people who play this game with a fucking passion.
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>>170503427
Yes
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>>170502353
>trying to spam shove while a guy is spamming a quick UB

fuckin idiot
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Valk is worse than PK now

REEEEE
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>>170502658
A better version of this: http://sketchtoy.com/67939236
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>>170491993
you can also just gb the warden during the startup.
or you know. just light attack him
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>>170503513
for how long? i thought they were going to issue warnings first
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>>170503697
LEGENDARY
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>>170490407
I tried but failed horribly. Anyone got some advice on how to improve this?
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>want to have fun with law
>PK
>literally the laziest PK ever
>still lose because i cannot switch guard fast enough to even block the attacks
I fucking swear to god. Playing against anything else but an assassin is really quite fun, but fucking assassins are everywhere
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>>170502658
A warlord doing this reaction
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>>170503860
start from scratch and pick something more minimalistic
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>knock someone into a wall when I could have thrown them off
>they proceed to be subhumans and spam guard breaks until one eventually lands to knock me off
Bonus Points
>nigger shoguki sits in the middle of the tiny bridge swamp map and refuses to leave the bridge
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>>170504004
Aw. You're probably right, but I thought the symbol was minimalist enough.

Guess there aren't symbols with thin enough lines. I tried to get creative with the background but nothing was quite right.
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ive been gone for a few weeks
has LB been buffed or am I gonna have to start maining Conq or Shugoki? I need one of the best boys.
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>>170504059
>I had the chance to win, but my made up rules told me not to do it
>he wasn't playing by my made up rules and he won when given the opportunity
NO
SYMPATHY

>nigger shoguki sits in the middle of the tiny bridge swamp map and refuses to leave the bridge
Are you telling me you don't have the willpower to wait him out?
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>>170504059
>>nigger shoguki sits in the middle of the tiny bridge swamp map
GIT OUTTA MAH SWAMP
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>>170504135
He has not.

Conq and Shugoki are getting nerfed this week.
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>>170504241
>conq getting nerfed
what in gods cock is wrong with him
>shug getting nerfed
besides shitters complaining about how his unblockable is op and his unique hyperarmor is op, why is he getting nerfed
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>>170504135
LB is being buffed soonish apparently
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>in a game with 3 people who all feel like weaker players
>carry teammate to victory
>he shittalks the enemy team even though they're low level and still managed to kill him

Learn some fucking humility when you get carried, jesus christ.
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>>170504301
Conq is getting 100~200ms startup on fullblock so you can't just do it on reaction

Shugoki is getting his unlock unparriable/doublehit tech removed
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I'm still not satisfied with the Lawbringer ornaments, and i think he might have some relatively good ones compared to other heroes.
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Am I the only one who can't mentally handle the concept of 4v4 in this game. I literally fly into an autistic rage when people try to gank someone I'm fighting. Nothing makes my blood boil more than some fucking subhuman faggot Orochi or whatever the fuck just come run in and heavy the person I've been whittling down this entire time. I honestly cannot handle this concept mentally, fuck off I'm fighting this person get the fucking hell out of here. If someone attempts to gank I just run off and find someone else.

This is why I stick to 1v1.
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Why does offense cost stamina, but defense doesn't, when defense is flat out safer and easier?
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>>170504417
>calling a fix a nerf
fuck you
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>>170504395
>he doesn't say "gg ez" when bottomfragging
>he doesn't say "gg ez" when on the losing team
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>about 100 posts an hour
Dead thread dead gaem?
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>>170502289
Superarmor on LB top heavy would probably be enough.
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>>170503773
3 day bans currently
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>>170504447
man it's just part of the game. i only play 4v4 to complete orders myself, but you have to just accept it and embrace it and live in the chaos when you queue up for it.
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>>170504510
It reduces the character's strength and viability, ergo it's a nerf.

Are you saying removing the Kensei side dodge attack's weird unlisted overhead followup wasn't a nerf either?
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>>170504550
that guy could do a great heath ledger joker

his lips are already 7/8ths of the way across his face, just needs a little makeup
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>>170504550
You don't know the meaning of dead threads if you think this is a slow thread on /vg/
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Is there any program you can use to see the p2p connections so you can see why your NAT isn't working?
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>>170484161
>buff law, zerker, raider, kensei
>nerf PK

Fucking kill yourself. Literally all but raider will regularly demolish PKs..
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>>170504447
Just relax and have fun with the game bro.
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>>170504770
...Are you high?
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God when will PK and Valk be nerfed to the fucking ground? I never want to see those faggots in duels ever again. If you play PK/Valk consider suicide
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>>170504770
Sir I think you might have delusional autism.
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>>170504770
Here's your (You), now fuck off
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>>170504434
Idk, axe blade on the default looking helm is enough for me.

I wish Warden's were better. Fleur de Lys is ok but the rest are really meh.
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>>170504996
If you're having trouble with them, try bringing out Conqueror or Warlord.

Honestly the scariest part of people clamouring for nerfs to those characters is that they're the only things keeping valk/pk in check.
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>>170504447
4v4 is what it is, 4 people against 4 people, not 4 duels.
I don't get why people go into TEAM based mode and expect something else.
It's just part of the game man.
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>>170484161
Honestly I feel like valkyrie should be nerfed just slightly. Her attacks are peacekeeper level fast now.

Of course, the last time they nerfed her, they nerfed her into the fucking ground. I'd rather have it stay the way it is, than that.
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Woah!! Hey guys, I found your average Warlord player!

Disgusting and abnoxious!
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>>170505086
Any of the non-tumor ones I enjoy, like Plated and Winged 2. Otherwise, they're ass.
>>
Fuck dueling berserkers. There's absolutely no fun. You just sort of sit there guarding their infinite bullshit brigade until they get bored and roll away. If they have any idea how to cancel guard breaks or feint, then you're getting nowhere. You can't get an opening because any attempt at an opening is met by a dash into a light into a combo where your only hope of survival is praying that you are blocking in the right direction. It's like an entire class built around the Warden's vortex.

Berserkers also happen to be the biggest cocksucking cunts ever. They always over-play and over-feint as if they are trying to prove a point. If this game lasts more than a month (HAHAHAHAHA) then expect Berserkers to become the most hated aspect of the entire community.

t. just beat a rep 3 berserker as a level 9 Warden after having a few shots of rum.
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>>170505192
How can people grow these kind of "beard", look at themselves in the mirror and say to themselves "this look fine"?
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UBISOFT FUCKING BUFF SHUGOKI BLOCK SPEED FOR FUCKING SAKE! IF I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANOTHER PK SPAMMER WHO'S RECOVERY IS LITERALLY 1 FRAME HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSE TO BLOCK AGAINST THAT? GOD FUCKING DAMMIT FUCKING PK RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170504447
Just duel you abysmal faggot.
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>>170503860
tried last week, just not happening
>>
i dont mind losing to an actual good pk

but this whole light and area spam thing needs to end
>>
>>170505192
>>170505349

They are the same people who play Warlord and think to themselves "wow, there's no way I'm not an insufferable cunt."

who would have figured
>>
when do i stop getting matched with bads
>>
>>170505327
It's literally going to be a month in a few days
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>>170505418
The worse is they don't learn when you parry their shit
They just keep doing it.
And again.
And again.
And again.
>>
>>170504814
>>170505049
>>170505058
Biased and salty.
>>
>>170505520
Here's your (You) since you can't hold a debate or argument or conversation
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>>170505520
I mean, at least you admit it.
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>>170504790
some say they're still running
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>>170505350

Are you having trouble with Peacekeeper? Here's how you can try and cheese your way against an enemy peacekeeper, actually, against anybody. As Shugoki, just run away, and charge back and forward heavy attack the bitch. Now if she tries to lunge at you while you run away, you turn around and parry the bitch throw her iNTO HTE FUCKIN WALL AND SNAP HER BACK.... if she dodgdes your charge she will do her dodge attack thATs WHEN YOU GRAB and THROW THER BITCH INTO THE WALL AND SNAP HER BACK
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>>170505192
>>170505349
What I don't understand is that it looks like he actually has decent coverage on his face and shaved it.

My hypothesis is that he had a normal beard, decided to shave it, and took a photo-op halfway through as a joke.
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>>170502787
>>
You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
>You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
>You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
>You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
>You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
You shouldn't be able to dodge while out of stamina
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>>170505463
I mean a month from now.
>>
>>170505572
Nobody even argued the original argument you cuck. Everyone just said autism/high.
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>>170502658
fem orochi crouching down to pet a cat
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>>170505697
I do hope that's the case because it legitimately look like he glued pubes under his chin.
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>>170505701
tyvm
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>>170505405
That's too bad. Maybe if they ever release symbols in DLC it can be done.
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>>170505714
dont fucking with stamina
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>>170505697

False. If he had a normal manly beard he'd spend more time grooming it than typing autistic things on the internet
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>>170505754
Because there really is no point in arguing with someone as autistic as you, retard.

Retards don't even know they're retarded, and refuse to acknowledge it, that's what makes them so retarded.
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>>170505714
>Warlord, Warden, Conqueror become even more powerful than ever before
>LB moves up a tier maybe but still has no confirms off Shove
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>>170505714
Congratulations, you run out of stamina and have to eat every single warden charge, conqueror bash, warlord headbutt and nobushi kick.
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>>170505871
Thanks for proving my point.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlLtkoSOCno
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>>170502658

Nobushi sucking warden and orochi dick gangbang

god thats hot
>>
>>170505714
Dodging should cost stamina. Heavier classes should have it cost more with assassins costing less.
Dodging while out of stamina should be slowed.
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>>170504535
>not saying "gg close" while on the losing team
probably the biggest salt factory I've ever seen

there's no easier way to taint a victory
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>tfw try to play berserker but everyone just blocks all of my attacks and doesn't fall for feints
do you just give up at that point? there's no way to beat them with zerk if they know this basic shit
>>
>>170505192
>>170505438
The amount of salt Warlord creates is honestly the best thing about him. Keep crying you fucking babies, it sustains me.
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>>170505972
Same should be applied to blocking.
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>2's
>FemRoach teammate doesnt stop running up next to me after her kill

God damn.
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>>170505878
>>170505884
Let me correct that.

>You shouldn't be able to spam dodges while out of stamina.
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>>170506054
I love getting right up in a teammates face at the end to see if he moves away
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>>170506005
You're only allowed to say that if it was a blowout, otherwise it could be misconstrued as a compliment
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>>170506029
guardbreak/deflect, whittle at them
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>>170506036

playing the most broken character makes other players not enjoy fighting you

>hahaha im trolled you !!

admit it you're just an insufferable neckbeard
you have no friends, no girl will ever like you, you'll always be a loser.
>>
>>170506047
Blocking should cost stamina?
Maybe just a bit. Chip damage should definitely be more of a thing in gearless gamemodes.

One thing that I don't understand is GBs being techable while exhausted. I know it's offset with throws knocking down, but exhaustion just doesn't feel as punishing as it should be.
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>>170506209
they never attack and always counter gb
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>>170488184
My dude, full guard is your friend. You can throw out a fast as fuck heavy out of full guard. It always comes from the left so watch for that.
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>>170506217
>you have no friends, no girl will ever like you, you'll always be a loser
Are you just projecting your worst fears onto him?
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>>170506247
>I don't understand is GBs being techable while exhausted
Me fucking either.
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>>170506272
>enemy makes no mistakes

dunno why you are even asking for advice if your enemy is unstoppable undefeatable no error super fighter
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>thread of people who payed for an ubisoft game in 2017

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>170506217
I picked Warlord during open beta, was completely new to the game and had no idea of previous betas. I like Sword & Board and I chose Warlord because of this, and he turned out to be a great character.

Again, keep fucking crying you crybaby bitch. Maybe one day blaming others for your woes will get you somewhere.
>>
dead game
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>>170506217
>you have no friends, no girl will ever like you, you'll always be a loser.

IMAX projection
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>>170506415
because it's happened at least 4 times today, and they're always conq or warlord
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>>170503773
>>170504562
Still drives me crazy that reddit defends the living shit out of ubi and yells at the afkers. I don't think i have ever played a game that has this bad of micro-transactions. Apparently if you just want to unlock everything for all characters it adds up to $664 and if you include the base game its $729. This doesnt even include the need to buy steel boxes for armor. Shits crazy man.
>>
>>170506469
>>170506443
>>170506365

Warlord neckbeards spotted. Don't worry, I've been there. Except I wasn't overweight or had a neckbeard, but I know what it's like. It's not projecting when someone plays a character and acts like an abnoxious cunt despite playing the most OP character in the game.
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>>170506527
there is nothing you can do any advice it doesnt matter because they will perfectly counter anything you do because they make no mistake
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>>170506615
Keep going anon, your tears are absolutely delicious.
>>
If Valk hits you with her light before following up with a sweep can you dodge the sweep?

I feel like it stunlocks you long enough to prevent you from dodging the sweep
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>>170506669

Just like your moms pussy is delicious

keep licking the cheeto dust off your fingers buddy
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>>170505714
Fuck that

>nerf all stamina usage on regular attacks HEAVILY
>keep stamina usage on unblockable pushes(shoulder, headbutt, shield bash) the same
>heavies can be feinted much later
>feinting/getting blocked costs 0 extra stamina
>feinting doesn't end your attack chain
>blocking drains stamina
>a parried heavy just gives you positive frames, no GB
>a parried light just gives you a light hit, no GB
>forward dodges have very minor iframes
>side dodges no longer iframe through side attacks
>back dodges no longer iframe through top attacks
>chained light attacks no longer bounce off of blocks
>chained heavies cannot be parried
>chip damage from blocking actually significant

Game is now fast paced and fun, requiring prediction and reaction, not just the latter
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>>170506610
That also doesn't include the orders. Or bonuses for playing with friends.
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>>170506610
The micro transactions are pretty stupid, I have a 108 gearscore toon and haven't bought anything aside from the game though. Most of the shit is just for looks, still fucking gay I agree.

>>170506615
I don't play Warlord. Just anyone who says "hurr durr you're a virgin" or something like that are typically pathetic for a whole host of reasons. Mostly because its something someone very young would say, like "haha noob" and their also usually projecting. You can always kys though.
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Does this meme game have a grind? Cosmetics, new weapons, character, etc?

I like games with grind
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>>170506745
forgot to add

>cannot dodge/parry/tech GB while exhausted
>base exhaustion recovery is much faster
>backroll no longer has insane iframes on it
>almost every attack can be confirmed into a (techable) guardbreak
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>>170506894
yes to all except new characters
although weapons are cosmetic not functional
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>>170506738
surely you can't be done
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>>170506434
hey man I got the game for free

paid for siege though
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>>170506610
The is one of the few times that I am happy I got into a game early. It would be insufferable to start the game now that their cracking down on afk grinding.
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>>170506759
Even if you just play the game 24/7 its like 5 months to unlock the base game that you paid $60. If they keep adding dlc items and dlc chars you will be unlocking shit for years. Its worse than fucking mmos.
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>>170506894
Yes. You want to level a character up to Rep 3 this month? You have to play Dominion and Elimination for hours on end.
Cosmetics are based off of Steel.
And if you want Steel you need to complete orders and grind the team modes.

Characters cost Steel to customize, but it's not needed to play them (you'll just look like a pleb)
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>>170506894
Yeah, you play the game, get exp, steel (currency), and items as post-match rewards. You grind for steel to get boxes with items in it, whether you want them for their stats, or their aesthetic.

There are also a few items that are purely cosmetic, like cherry blossoms for the samurai, that serve to do nothing but give you style points.

Of course, many players use micro-transactions to pass the grind.
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>>170507112
>Its worse than fucking mmos.
That's where you're wrong kiddo!.

I was actually disappointed that gear stops at lvl 108. Micro transactions are fucking lame. I actually wish the gear grind would continue to rep lvl 30.
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>>170506826

Explain how I am pathetic for not wanting to fight the most broken unkillable character in the game and the player playing him is annoying and abnoxious. Calling him an overweight disgusting virgin is wrong?

Sounds like you're one of them. Inb4 "stay salty hurrhurr"

If you're a tierfag that goes out of his way to make the game unenjoyable for others I don't like you.
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>>170506610
I got everything I wanted, which sadly kinda motivates me to uninstall until they fix the balance issues

Every duel is just "wait for the other guy to do something or use shoulder"
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>>170507230
Warlord is cancer, that wasn't the point. You use the insults of a child.
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>>170507230
id rather play against whats strong rather than whats weak, only little bitches cry about top tiers desu
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>>170507226
It likely will. I think 108 gear score is just the vanilla cap.
When DLCs get released it'll get raised again.
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>>170507359

I don't care if they sound childish to you, go fuck yourself.
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>>170507407
how could they adjust the stats tho? max in all 3 stats? that would be utterly broken
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>>170506272
If they always counter gb then deflect. If they don't attack then don't attack either and tie forever
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>>170507226
After seeing revenge builds and shit i doubt they will go any higher if not nerf some stats. Still pisses me off debuff resistance targets nobushi/peacekeeper/valkyrie. Even if you hate those 3 classes they were designed around with that mechanic being in their kit but the game just targets them. Why it doesn't only effect feats i dont know.
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So a week or so back some lawbringer mains were bitching at me because I said he really isn't that bad, and was challenged to play him to rank 3 and then say that.

I've been playing him for a decent bit now, nearly Rank 3 from only duels/brawls and I have to say that I don't think he's nearly as bad as people say he is. I've been doing just as well if not better than I was on my main (Nobushi) and while he definitely has trouble competing against some of the more bullshit top tiers, so does like 60% of the rest of the cast. His shove isn't nearly as worthless as people meme about, you can completely stop offenses and make the enemy react to what YOU'RE going to do and give you the advantage with it, besides just being able to bully your enemy into positions that are good for you and get the occasional free ring out. I expected to get frustrated with him but the more I'm playing him the more solid of a character he becomes. If I can line it up with my work schedule I might see if i can enter some qualifiers in some competitive play sometime with him, and see if I can put more weight to my words.

At the very least, I think the gap between all the character who ARENT the top 5-6 is a lot smaller than people think it is.
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>>170507389

You mean you rather play the strongest character because you're bad at the game just like you're bad at every other game and everything you do in real life.

>desu

Point proven why you're a disgusting overweight neckbeard
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Honestly they need to add ranked or something very soon, it's barely been 2 weeks and people are already bored of the game
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>>170506610
Is this a joke?

Why do you want every item in the game?

I've been playing since release, I've bought a 15k outfit and 3 executions. I don't see why I desperately need to be able to unlock the other executions.
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>>170507728
>You mean you rather play the strongest character because you're bad at the game just like you're bad at every other game and everything you do in real life.
>>desu
>Point proven why you're a disgusting overweight neckbeard
Holy shit not even him but nice projecting there anon
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>>170506610
>I want every single cosmetic even though I can only equip 1-2 of each at a time per character and I don't even like most of them
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>>170507697
Shove gives the enemy a free GB if they dodge it, and there's no way to cancel it mid animation, so it's basically a free GB if the person you're playing has any kind of reactions whatsoever.

All of LB's unblockables are behind heavy chains which are pathetically easy to parry, and are feinted really early.

His only actually usable move is top light.
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>>170507697
i agree with you wholeheartedly, however many people on here seem to be quite staunched in negativity
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>>170506610
>He hasn't seen the train simulator or any DoA DLCS on steam
>or fucking eve online
Nigger please this isn't even bad.
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>>170507274
>tfw can't even use shoulder because Assassins are super popular, can only feint shoulder into parry
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from a game i had earlier today

Roses are red
zerker is hairy
you are a raider
LEGENDARY
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>>170507787

I'd bet you that 90% of the people in this thread are either

A. fucking autistic
B. awkward
C. have no social skills
D. weird ass kids
E. Most likely suck at the game
F. Disgusting weaboos
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>Spend an entire 3 minutes chipping down an obese Shugoki fuck as Lawbringer
>Mess up once
>He clicks his meme button
>I go from full health to dead instantly

Gonna level with you: the fact that these two characters are in the same game is a fucking joke. LB is just Shugoki and Orochi but worse in every way.
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>>170508003
xD
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>>170508089
he can only one shot if hes below 1 bar of health
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>>170508089
>Try out the Shugoki glitch
>rep 4 warlord has no idea how to fight it because he can't parry
I felt kinda bad but at the same time honorable shugobros are dope.
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>>170507882
There are times you can shove where it cannot be dodged(after guarding, after landing a heavy, after dodging one of the enemy's charges). Nobushi has the same problem with her charge, and while she gets guarenteed damage off of it, I still have started to appreciate shove more and more over the kick. It's just unfortunate that it seems to ALWAYS lose out over headbutt, headbutt is just fucking so hard to deal with as LB, but again headbutt is hard for fucking everyone to deal with so I don't really count that as a huge LB negative.

I DO wish he had some way to scare people with his unblockable without having to land/whiff a light attack first, because even the best players I've faced will almost ALWAYS fall for your first few unblockable feints, and after that you can start actually landing them.

top light is a gift from god, but the fact that your top light can remain such a threat makes the rest of your movepool more powerful as well. My only wish for his non-chains is that his zone attack had more of a use. A lot of the good characters get a lot of mileage out of their zone, LB doesnt need to have a generic 'fast zone' but something to give you another tool would be excellent.

>>170507935
Yeah, I've been trying to shut up and get good, being negative and whining will never make you get better. This fucker punishes people SO HARD for reads, if you light parry someone it's such a good fucking feeling.
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>>170507697
LB isn't as bad as a lot of people make him out to be, but there will be plenty of times you'll lose a match-up because of things outside your control (like people just picking a character that is better than LB)
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>>170507774
>>170507857
The point was a game you spent $60 on shouldn't have $664 of micro-transactions that the only way to unlock even 5% is going to take you 300hours of playtime. I could understand if this was a f2p game but its not.
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>>170507613
Just do what any MMO does with a new expansion and deflate all the old gear's values so they're no longer relevant
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>>170508307
>webm shows a connection issue top light still hitting when he blocked it
>didn't even try to dodge the long arm
>fucked up the parry timing on your top heavy
>didn't even try to parry or dodge the unblockable heavy

You're still fighting shitters. Rep 3 doesn't mean shit. You can fight against completely shit players all the way to rep 30 due to matchmaking. Your rep doesn't mean anything about skil..
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>>170508307
Yes, but you don't get anything off of shove except positive frames. The shove actually fucks you out of a GB punish sometimes, like after blocking warden zone or dodging warlord headbutt

Not really, someone can just hold top and shut you down completely. The difference between like, Warden or PK, is that they have 2 viable attack directions, not just one. Even Raider or Kensei have great feint game, which LB also lacks.
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>>170508537
thats no fun then
>spend more steel and salvage to get back to the exact same stats you had before!
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>>170508009
you got me
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>>170508412
>The point was a game you spent $60 on shouldn't have $664 of micro-transactions
go look up all the dead or alive and train/airplan dlcs. Fucking airplane simulator has over 2,000 dollars worth of dlc. While I agree with you this is just where the future is heading video games will no longer be a poorfags outlet
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>>170508307
i hope this webm isnt supposed to be supporting your point of view
its we'll documented that lawbringer isnt bad against dogshit panicky players, the issue people have is the instant they go against someone who is mechanically AVERAGE at the game literally being able to shut down everything the lawbringer can do
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>>170508376
That's true, but that's also true of MOST games and fighting games in particular. With that mindset there's no point in ever playing anything but the top 3 characters.

I also think the game is still in its infancy and that, even unpatched, things will change and evolve. People were CLAMORING for Warden to get heavily nerfed on launch but they're finally starting to realize there are ways to deal with and/or punish nearly everything he does, and he's actually a fairly balanced high tier character. Almost every time I lose to a Warden I feel like it's just my fault that I didn't play better, compared to someone like Peacekeeper who makes me feel like I didn't learn anything and just had bad read attempts on her because my slow guard speed only allows me to do so much.

Interested to see how things will look a month or two from now, regardless of balance changes.

>>170508561
I'm just posting webms, they're not meant to showcase anything. I've fought good players as well. Contrary to what you are saying though, even the best players make mistakes. Nobody perfectly parries everything you do.
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>>170508412
It doesn't have $664 of micro transactions to the end consumer.

In total, yes. In reality, nobody actually wants all of it and you can earn enough to get the things that you really want within a reasonable timeframe.

I was the first person to hate the cost of DLC operators in R6, but in the current state 4H has no problematic microtransactions. We'll see what happens with the first DLC
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>>170506443
>I like Sword & Board


Just plain kill yourself
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>>170508652
They do when you start playing good people. I'm rep 11 playing law since launch and I cannot get a hit in anymore without parries due to everyone either just blocking the attack or parrying me now.
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>>170508592
Yep. Welcome to Destiny Year 2 -- I mean For Honor!
Your old top tier gear is now the equivalent of novice gear. Enjoy the grind.
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>>170508718
Fuck off faggot there is a reason shields were masters of the battle field of duel weild was laughed at.
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>>170508652
>Almost every time I lose to a Warden I feel like it's just my fault that I didn't play better, compared to someone like Peacekeeper
Wanna hear a funny joke? I'm being 100% serious here but you can scream bait all you like.

I feel EXACTLY the opposite. I don't play warden or PK but I'm much more inclined to respect someone playing PK than Warden.
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>>170508652
>That's true, but that's also true of MOST games and fighting games in particular. With that mindset there's no point in ever playing anything but the top 3 characters.
I play LB because I enjoy his playstyle, that doesn't mean I think he's in a good state right now. in regards to warden, I don't think he's as OP as everyone initially thought, but I think he could be toned down slightly.

PK and especially post-buff valk are without a doubt OP

I'll stick with the game because I like it, but I definitely think the devs have work to do as far as game balance is concerned.
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>>170508636
I have something like this, but then again, every character can do this on some level, let alone more efficiently or with more damage

I also could've done top heavy unblockable after each parry but it's not that easy to distinguish what's a light or heavy and change your inputs immediately
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>>170506610

Why invent stupid reasons to hate Ubisoft when there are so many good ones?
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>>170508852
I have never landed a top heavy unblockable against a berserker as LB.
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>>170508685
The currency per hour is significantly lower than R6 and for honor has way more cosmetic options. Not to mention the awful host crashes and connection errors.
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>>170508852
yeah i really dont want to sound like that one asshole in a debate that is just super picky and disagrees with every argument no matter what, but this truthfully doesnt change anything. anyone who isnt terrible at the game will not dodge after the shove.
ive also noticed the trend that these webms seem to come from brawls which has CONSIDERABLY lower skilled players than the duel mode
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>>170509029
And yet everything you can buy is still cosmetic in nature

for now
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WTH is with conq/warlords being able to recover fast enough from light parries to parry AD MORTEM? It's just insulting.
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>>170508978
their side dash attacks count as lights, you can do it, it's just that not easy since all their attacks are kinda hard to distinguish

>>170509037
exactly, i made a hard read on it, and just got what any other hero would be able to do, but probably with more damage
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>>170508773
>shields were masters of the battle field

Well, no...
Actually that is not a thing that ever happened at any time in history. You could make a case for guns, or longbows, or heavy cavalry, or any one of various species of polearm but definitely no case whatsoever for sword 'n board infantry. There is no army in the history of the world that has ever fielded a significant force of sword & shield infantry, because it is fucking worthless.
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>>170508837
That's fine, opinions differ. Do you play someone with a fast guardchange? I only play Nobushi and Lawbringer so I'm probably more biased against peacekeeper than most other players.

>>170508852
Things like this is what I'm talking about when I say that shove DOES have actually have a use, even if it isn't the 'free damage' everyone expects it to be. Well played.

>>170508978
If you parry a light attack from any character, you can always land an overhead unblockable on them.

Except in 4v4 mode because lol debuff resistance but who gives a fuck about 4v4 mode.

>>170509037
I've seen good and bad players in all of the modes, even 4v4 modes can have really good players in them. Honestly some of the best players I've seen were in Brawl.
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>>170508718
>not liking sword and board

Check out this special snowflake. Let me guess, you're one of those "m-muh fists" faggots, or are you going to drop some obscure weapon name because it makes you feel special.
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>>170509140
I'm kinda low level, but even the rep 2-3 Berserkers I have fought never just do a raw dash into light. They always wait for you to attack first, and my reflexes aren't really good enough to attack, feint, and grab as soon as they start their dash into side.
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why isnt there a female orochi

i want to fuck an orochi
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>>170509140
this is the first nice one youve posted

the zerker one was a terrible player for dodging at all and it looks like he dodged almost every time so i'd hardly call it a read
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>>170509203
greeks and their phalanx but they didnt use swords as their primary
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Reminder: you start getting purple gear in crates at rep 3 but you'll get unuprgaded ones(level 13).
Waiting more will save you thousands of steel if you want to get to gear level 108.
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>>170482952
I agree.
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>>170509280
can't tell if stupid or typed the wrong character. You literally play a female orochi in singleplayer.
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>>170509203
Agree on the sword and board being bullshit, but formations of shields and spears saw use.
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>>170509228
>Do you play someone with a fast guardchange?
I play Conq (3), Kensei (2), Shugoki (2), and a bit of Warlord (1).

Even when playing as shugoki, PK gives me no issues.

Warden, on the other hand, will vortex me 100-0 or 100-out of stamina damn near every time he uses that bash.
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>>170509294
i feel stupid for not continuing the chain with an unblockable heavy then feint GB for the kill, probably would have ran out of stamina though
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>>170509280
What? Anon you can change the gender of your Orochi. It just doesn't make a super visible difference because male Orochi are twinks.
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>>170509119
>cosmetic in nature
>stated gear
hm
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>>170509396
yeah you would have, i assumed that was why you didnt do it
desu i probably would have just done it anyway out of habit and run outta stam
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>>170509463
i wish attacking in general didn't use so much stam, pressure in this game barely exists as is
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>>170509391
Wait the emperors champion was a girl?
Damn Im blind
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>>170509456
>4v4
Sorry, I didn't realize we were talking about the joke modes
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>>170509317
I think the reason a lot of us blew our load at rep3 was to destroy people in 4v4. Even if you hate me for playing PK you can never take away the fun of popping revenge and spamming zone attack. Shits fucking hilariously broken and the salt in chat is usually great.
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>>170509512
well that issue is severely exacerbated for lawbringers
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>>170509623
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>>170509527
>half of the game is unplayable
So dead game before May?
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>>170509391
>>170509520
You pick the gender of the character, you turnips. It can be either.

>>170509512
I don't mind attacking using a lot of stam, but I don't understand why both being blocked AND feinting increases the stamina cost of your move.

>>170509690
Holy fuck this webm is so gay lmao.
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>>170509520
Before you start the first samurai mission you can choose between male or female. They are fully voiced for both male and female which is impressive i guess but the SP is pretty short.
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>>170505110
>>170504996
The grappler guys, like LB and raider and stuff, imo should refrain from going for GBs often against a PK, since all a PK has to do - and probably will do - is mash R1 to beat half your shit if it's reliant on GB mixups. It's just another thing you have to deal with against a player ontop of their ability to tech.
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>>170509690
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>>170509754
You're probably the type of person to define "dead" as less than 50,000 players online at any time, so it's already dead to you, it launched dead.

I think dead is <1000, and I don't forsee that.
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When you fight the Orochi and he sits there waiting to parry and doesnt realise his guard is down.

Heres a spinning red overhead flail
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>>170509850
Damn I also forgot about this part
Guess Im just retarded then not blind
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>>170509896
>youre the kind of person who thinks a game is dead when the playerbase is leaving
Yeah Im one of those guys
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>>170509910
what did he mean by this
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>>170509896
ps4 had ~150k people at launch tho
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>Last round of elim
>last person about to die
>error, back to menu
yeah fuck you too game
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>>170509963
There never was a playerbase then.

What are you even doing here?
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>>170509963
You mean people play other games, especially with those highly anticipated titles coming out recently? Shit anon, every game is dying!
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>>170506527
If you're fighting a guy with a shield don't be aggressive. A conq will probably be winding up to go for a trade scenario when he's not doing his shield bash mixup. A warlord is either going to go for headbutt spam or poise trades.

Have you tried playing those guys? My suggestion is to play the character you're having trouble against in QM and duels for a few hours, as it'll give you insight into the other half of the match up. When you're on the receiving end you can only learn so much, but playing those characters and doing the same things they do will let you learn a lot.
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Why are the soldiers so fucking small?
Why do they only do 2 damage/hit?
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>>170509973
When the orochi guards for too long in one direction without moving his mouse it looks like his guard drops and the shield disappears.
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>>170510120
>A conq will probably be winding up
Did you actually follow your own advice? Charging an attack is one of the worst things you can do as Conq, the charge is an options select for missed parries or a gung-ho 25hp finisher.
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>>170490407
I tried a bunch with different swords and shit but I just couldn't find a good one and the symbol limit severely hinders trying to make my own so I just skipped it.
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>>170506610
You're not entitled to

>Sabotaging player's matches
>"Premium" unlockables that you can just grind for

simply because you play the game.

>>170508412
> $664 of micro-transactions that the only way to unlock even 5% is going to take you 300hours of playtime. I could understand if this was a f2p game but its not

[UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIM]

15 years ago no one complained that you had to unlock Akuma in SF, an actual character. Now you're complaining about cosmetic bullshit. Fuck off, you're a fucking dumbass entitled teenager. This is the one decent fucking game Ubisoft has made in the last decade and you're whining about microtransactions that don't even do anything for a player.
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>>170510190
because if you get pushed into the enemy line, you're taking about 10 dps which adds up really fucking quickly if you don't have body count or anything
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>>170510008
What?
>>170510061
>less than a month old triple A game lost nearly 50% of the player bade
>it's f-fine
Now this is denial
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They should have made it if you leave or close the game you can't queue for 10minutes or something. Would solve all the desync game errors because less faggots would be quitting and rejoining.
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>use emblem editor
>looks different in game
FUCK YOU UBISOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFT
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>playing assassin in elim for order
>level 11 since I use it for orders only
>matched against a rep 4 g89 pk
>just block 1 of their light spam and then follow up with my own light spam
>beat them twice
>they leave session
getto fucked cancer class
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>he complains about warden
easiest shitter spotter there is desu
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>>170510296
I just want you to know that this argument you're trying to start is pointless.
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>Beat a warden in a single round without him getting a single hit on me
>He ragequits
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>>170507774
>I don't need to unlock everything so nobody else should either
dude really
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>>170510269
>This is the one decent fucking game Ubisoft has made in the last decade

Black Flag and Rogue were fun, AC Syndicate was surprisingly fun, Siege took a while but it's now good.
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welp my parrying addiction is finally getting me killed
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>>170510269
I know this is /vg/ but you cannot shill this obviously

>>170510407
There is no argument. The game is quickly dying. Youre in denial. Ill just have fun while it's still supported
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>>170510504
>i NEED cosmetics
dude really
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>>170510436
he was probably having a really bad night, happens to me a lot
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>>170510504
People like you are the reason they do it. Because they know people like you will either grind forever (unlikely) or shill out for stuff that you don't need or will even use.
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>>170510269
I can't tell if this is a shitpost or you actually are shilling this hard for ubisoft.
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>>170510540
Don't forget that you can feint your own parry attempt to cancel it if need be.
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>>170510279
Alright, now riddle me this:

Why are the soldiers fucking 4 feet tall? Manlets can be strong too!
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Second ragequit in a row. He was bitching about me doing parries into grabs into side heavies.
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>>170509256
>Not liking fist weapons

Not even them but you're by far the more massive faggot here now and forward.
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>>170510648
fucking me tonight kill me man my parries and blocks are fucking off as hell
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>>170510548
>The game is quickly dying. Youre in denial. Ill just have fun while it's still supported
What do you hope to accomplish by telling me that? You think I'm not going to be playing the game?

You are not the decider of what will die, even if it does die (<1k) your saying it's going to die changes nothing.

Just stop trying to convince me the game is dead or dying and let it die if that's really what you think will happen. Why are you trying to convince me to agree with you? It's fucking pointless. If you're right then congrats, you changed nothing.
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>>170507697
afaik ubisoft themselves have said lawbringer is exactly where they want him. He's solid as far as I care. For me, he's even better in 4v4s than he is in duels and brawl, as any dumbass team action can give him a free pass to shove someone into a pit or spikes or some shit.
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>>170510680
It's not that the mooks are short, it's that the playable characters are huge
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>>170509317
Should I wait more to use my scavenger crates? Currently at rep 1
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>>170510710
ragequitters sure are something. these guys sperged out at me for 'spamming guardbreaks' when I was just Deflecting everything they were doing. they had a meltdown when I said I wasn't guardbreaking them.

>>170510805
its really weird when you have like "teeny tiny" peacekeeper stand next to the soldiers, it looks so off with how big she is compared to them still.
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I'm thinking of getting started on zerker. What can I expect?
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>all these retards ITT posting tierlists when they cant take a game off me
disgusting
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>>170508561
>webm shows a connection issue top light still hitting when he blocked it

It's not a "connection issue." He switched his block at the last second. Unless if you really wanna argue that the guy was blocking top, on anon's screen, and anon managed to hit through his block that he himself was witnessing, cuz latency. Makes no sense.
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>>170511004
Cool it ENUMBRE.
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genocide all PK players desu
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>>170510760
Listen. You seem to be emotionally invested in this game. Just read the comment chain that lead to it. I am having **fun** if it makes you feel better
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>>170511329
>**fun**
>Trying to do spoilers with asterisks

Get outta here, cripplekike.
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>>170510805
An average footman in the time period would probably be around 5'6"

that puts kensei at like, 7 feet tall. and he isn't even the biggest

shugoki must be a literal 9 foot tall man, he wouldn't be able to fit underneath the drive-thru clearance at mcdonalds if he was standing straight up
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>>170511329
>You seem to be emotionally invested in this game
Not in the least, I like it but there are hundreds of others.

I just don't care to see people like you crying "dead" when it's not and you could be having a discussion about it instead.
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>>170510976
>Wreck low tier scrubs with the infinite chain
>Be worse than other assassins
Berserker fights in general are fast. Either you or they die quickly.
Use your front dash attack hyper armor when you expect them to attack. Remember to dodge. You'll get parried a lot by better players because at least your every other attack will be a heavy. Feint to re-start the chain from light if you get a lot of heavy parries, but that's fairly stamina expensive.
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>>170511329
nothing wrong with that if i like the game i can talk just as much trash as you
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>>170497340
this is the part where you pick warlord
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I've never seen a game die faster
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>>170511665
The Division.
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>>170511665
Titanfall.
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>>170511383
oy vey

>>170511478

Eh reading that comment would say otherwise
>>170511565
No you can't
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>>170510976
expect to feint everythintg into dash attacks/throws and not do any chains other than landed heavy > light otherwise you'll get parried easily and die. Don't do raw dash attack or you'll get parried and die. Don't do raw zone or you'll get parried and die. gb into side heavy and 1 light is safe, gb into wall splat top heavy for damage. There's other shit but those are the basics
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>>170511665
>>170511763
>>170511816
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>>170511882
Games have to be alive first.
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>>170511882
can something really die if it never truly lived?
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>>170511854
give up

you have been defeated
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>>170511882
It had to be alive at some point to count
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>>170510548
I'M NOT SHILLING IF I'M GIVING YOU MY HONEST OPINION YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

I HAVE NEVER *ONCE* IN MY LIFE BOUGHT A FUCKING UBISOFT GAME FULL PRICE AND FELT GOOD ABOUT IT

THIS IS THE SINGLE UBISOFT TITLE I HAVE BOUGHT (with discount) THAT I FELT HAPPY TO OWN. FUCK OFF FAGGOT, JUST LEAVE. THE GAME IS DYING, YOU SAID SO, JUST GO AWAY, STOP POSTING IN THESE THREADS, LEAVE, STOP PLAYING, DO WHATEVER THE FUCK IT IS YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE NOT SHITPOSTING HERE.
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>>170512010
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>>170510538
I will agree that Black Flag is probably worth the original 60 bux asking price. I pirated it but it's a pretty solid game and I have no real complaints about it. The boat itself is almost an entirely new game on its own, and I'd wager just dicking around with the boat and fucking about on the open seas is easily worth 20 bux on its own.
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Although this anon >>170512010 is autistic, he's right.

Fuck off, doomsayer. Nobody cares how you think this game is going to die within the month, go shitpost on /v/.
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>dueling because done with orders
>meet a rep 3 kensei on rep 2 lawbringer
>fuck he's REALLY good
>really fun to fight against
>we keep dueling
>he goes from kensei to orochi to conq
>i get to practice my orochi
>fun times and fun games were had

I hope you all find a good dueling partner, /fhg/
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>>170512178
I'm not autistic I just think this is a good, solid fighter. It's soulcal, over the shoulder, and I love soulcal.
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>>170511978
Only if you learn to accept the gane is dying
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>>170512267
Yes, now if we could get some balance fixes and not "sit there and wait for the other guy to do something" it would be really fun and engaging
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>>170512184
Sometimes you gotta mentally wrestle with them a bit, but you can turn a shitter into a semi-decent player and a worth-while sparring partner if you got the gumption.
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>>170512474
Yeah, on his kensei, he was feinting and shit. I went from falling for it on my LB to parrying his actual attacks.

One of my favorite duels was on our orochi mirror match, where we were low and he stormrushed, which I deflected and unblockable light'd for the kill.

It was some good shit. With the right amount of push and give, you can get shitters having fun matches.
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>>170512469
Work on your mixup. The game is only a month old, it doesn't need balance fixes. 15 years ago when a new SF title came out, people just fucking learned how to deal with shit, since they weren't gonna get a new title for a year at least. Now, people get their asses kicked by one or two matchups, mass spam social media, and the devs buckle and start buffing and nerfing random characters until the game is a diluted mess that no one wants to play.

There's always going to be stronger and weaker characters. Just practice your fucking match ups. I've met Dan players who could mollywhop anyone in their city. Now I meet guys who lose 2 or 3 times to one guy and scream "OVERPOWERED." You will NEVER get a perfectly balanced fighting game with more than 2 characters, and it's stupid to hope for or even expect as much, considering how many factors are in play for even a single matchup, multiplied by how many characters and maps, all on top of individual player skill.
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What the fuck is with warlord heavies? Cant parry it by indicator
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>>170512714
ur 2 fast
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>>170512714
You shouldn't even be looking at the indicator, you should be looking for when the swing itself comes.
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>>170512010
Listen listen. stop shilling here. Im on to you
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as a conq how do I beat nobushi?

I've tried all-blocking against their mix ups and punishing them with lights but it hasn't been working out.
>>
next time shugoki gains a stack of armor mid-grab on me will be the last
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>>170510919
You should wait until rank 3 minimum.
Before that you won't have guaranteed purple gear with your crates.
Waiting more will get you more/higher level purple gear (saving you some steel, since upgrading purple gear from base to max costs > 1000 steel / piece).
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>>170513028
nobushi doesnt have any mixups retard
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is there a noticable throw distance change on high throw distance?
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>>170513076
Jesus Christ, and I just spend all my steel buying an execution for my LB. Any tips on wich stats I should focus on as a LB main?
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I think I just got a glimpse of high level gameplay

An orochi and I just stared at each other for like a minute straight without doing anything

Originally I kept attacking but even my lights got parried so I had to stop

I mean it was an interesting experience but I don't think a Lawbringer can deal with this
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>>170511271
Why would you kill a qt?
Seriously though why do ppl hate PK so much they have the lowest health and you can parry them all day
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>>170511271
They shall help us retake the Holy Land
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Open NAT
High Activity
Still can't find a game that isn't duel.
Why is this happening?
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>>170513908
Yep, that's about it.
And characters with 1 fast attack can't do shit.
And then you get a little higher and characters with 2 fast attacks can't do shit.
And then a little higher sits warlord and headbutts you in the face all day.
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>>170513952
Braindead to win with
"Just parry it" doesn't work with the fastest lights in the game and the fastest zoning in the game
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>>170514075
I guess this is a problem in a game where you can react to EVERYTHING outside of one attack.
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there needs to be some other option with salvage, im sitting at 40k and it got reset on me at some point.
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>>170514076
Why not dodge her lights instead? Everyone can dodge
You are just mad that you need a different strategy to fight PK and you are unwilling to learn it.
If you got good and parried her lights (which many can do) then you can fuck her up easier than any other class with your confirms
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>bully an orochi into the fire pit for the lulz
>end up killing him only from fire damage
>next round he wants to play ring-around-the-rosie around the cart
Why do smaller/faster characters get mad at me when they back themselves into corners and not expect me to play to my characters strengths?
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>>170513952
>justparryit
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>>170514453
>dodge a PK
>dodge around a class with arguably the best grab options in the game
Do you even play this game?
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>>170514502

Because it's not """""HONORABRU!!!!!!""""". For some reason, people think that fire and ledges have a sense of honor. They're inanimate objects and elements. They do not have a sense of honor.
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Anyone else think Kensei's shoulderpad things look dumb? Do they ever look better later on?

It's almost distracting seeing them flop aimlessly while I'm fighting
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ive been playing PK mostly today and it is pretty hilarious how good she is, i do get flustered sometimes and take a few hits but between zone cancel, kara throw, and whiffing lights just out of range like a monkey

im warmin up to her, fun character
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>>170514674
i actually think they look great
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>get the game only a few hours ago
>playing brawl for the daily
>me and bot verses him and bot
>guy is better than me without question
>takes me down in a few seconds, bot gets lucky and hits both him and the other bot down a pit
>immediately push him off a bridge next round
>third round he kicks my ass and Eiffel Towers my bot
>last round I kick his bot down a well and we barely take him down after waiting out his revenge meter
Is this how the game is meant to be played?
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>>170514502
>fighting against shougoki in such a small area
reminds me of when a warlord was bitching that he couldn't fight my lawbringer in a hallway

>waaaah I can't throw out a light attack and immediately back off two miles away every single time
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>>170512010
oh shit y'all niggas went over the line

let a man enjoy his vidya games goddamnit
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>>170508718
>doesn't like sword n board
pls go
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>load into duel
>fighting shugoki
>on a bridge map
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>Tfw this game wouldn't be dying nearly as fucking fast as it is if Ubi would just fix the fucking connections and not implement retardedly broken armor
I love the game, but I don't blame people for quitting it. I can't go a night playing without several matches crashing because someone quit, or me getting dropped from one randomly.
And gear has literally made it so you cannot play new characters in 4v4 modes without getting stomped by fags with revenge gear
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>>170515515
>>170515515
>>170515515
>>170515515
>>170515515
ded
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>>170504550
more like your whore mother is dead
the game is alive and well
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>>170506434
Then why are you here
I know you like to spam "le dead game" but why
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