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Plushies Edition
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so what does this guy do? will he sell me a mask at some point?
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Reminder that whoever created White palace should be beaten to death with a tire iron
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>>170492727
Stomp.
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>>170492929
how do i stomp?
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>>170492983
get the down + Circle/B spell.

Find the soul sanctum
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>>170492490

Go here and explore.
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>>170493137
>>170493119
oh i have that, i just didn't know it was called a stomp
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>>170493167

I mean the lower part.
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hey

give me something simple to draw
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>>170493497

The Charm notch lady seductively bending over to pick something up from behind. Or the badge shopkeeper.
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>>170493409
i guess i need to come back then?
>>170493497
this guy hugging one of his dolls
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>>170493650
wait

who is this? why she is blushing?

i think i saw her near the dashmaster charm but couldnt get to her at the time

what dolls?
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>>170493815
go back and save your fangirl
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Where can I find more of the big husk guards? Need to farm them for the journal but the one in crossroads is permafucked
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>>170493879
>fangirl

thats nice
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So, I have the mantis claw, the dash, the super horizontal dash/fly thing, the upward attack spell, and I've beaten the Mantis Lords, the Crystal Mine area, explored part of the deepnest, but didn't fight the boss, can access the tram, and have the lantern.

Where do I go? I feel like there's a million places I wasn't able to access before but should be able to now, but then I keep running into roadblocks. I know I need to fight the boss in Deepnest, but aside from that, where should I start heading towards, and what's a good general order to do things in so I can avoid this aimless feeling I have about the game right now?
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>>170493137
Thanks bro, I posted this >>170494384 before seeing your post.
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[HEAVY BREATHING]
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>>170494384

Do you have the Dream Nail? If not, go find it. Use the Trams.

If you do, go to Kings Station and go left and take the lower path, like >>170493137 said, basically telling you exactly where to go.

You get to Kings Station by exploring around the area where you get the Dream Nail.
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>>170494581

I was moderately disappointed there wasn't a boss at the end of that.
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>Game uses '''''''''''''''''''''unity engine''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>A 3D engine for a 2D game
>The sprites you are looking at are nothing but flat 3d objects


FUCK


food analogy because i am still mad at their incompetence:

Imagine you have a steak, too big for a single bite. what would you do?

you cut it to small pieces and then swallows, right?

WRONG

You store it your fucking cheek and put more meat in your mouth like a fucking idiot because you forgot to learn how to swallow

That is Hollow Knight


Enemies that are killed don't dissapear, they are stored in an unreacheable place in the map
And keep consuming memory, that is why the game shits itself in the arena and pretty much everywhere

Now, imagine that you don't have a steak in your plate, but you go to a dead cow, cut a piece, cook that morsel, AND then eat it
You do this until you've eaten the equivalent of a steak

BECAUSE INDIE DEVELOPERS


The game doesn't even uses graphic card memory
It uses regular RAM

R
A
M

And you know what? This was all deliberate
The developers KNEW this shit and thought it was okay

Shit programming gets on my nerves

Normally, shit programming goes hand in hand with shit design, and seeing something so beautiful go to waste is infuriating

no '''patch''' is going to save this pile of crap
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>>170492735
Reminder that white palace is the most fun part of the game
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>>170495791
The programming itself is not that bad. There's only 2 glaring issues. That being the horror at Failed Tramway and the overall stutter, both of which are being worked on simultaneously with the Switch Port and the Hornet Playable Character expansion/update/DLC/whatever.
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>>170495864
You are a sick piece of shit
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>that rolling knight bossfight that keeps making more and more knights to fight
What even is that boss? How long do you have to do that shit?
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>>170496925
the watcher knights?
seven iirc, but you only ever fight two max

just don't get above them before they roll and you should be alright
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What's up with Weaver's Den? All I did was chase some spiderman out into Deepnest. Do I need to come back here later?
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>>170496925
7 Watchers.
They're all identical, just like the Gargoyle fight from Dark Souls 2, but with 7 instead of 5.
Just bounce on one of their heads and when you see them move, dodge out towards the center of the ring away from them. Go back if they don't bounce, reposition if they do.
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>>170495791
i have literally no memory issues with 6gb of ram running on windows 7 and get a steady 60fps

occasionally i'll get a stutter that lasts half a second but it's hardly worth flipping over about
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>>170497124
Weaver's Den is just the resting place of all of Herrah's Ballhead attendants. As far as anyone knows, it's all purely lore.
>Each of the corpses has some little bit of lore, all 4 of them
>There's some sort of a woven charm in the last hidden room you can't do shit to
>The last living Ballhead slips out when you leave the first time, never to be seen again
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You know, a bug warrior having a needle and thread as a weapon is actually really creative.
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Is it better with a controller?

How are the loading times? Worth putting on an SSD?
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>>170497898
I played with a controller exclusively and installed on my SSD so I can say that it doesn't quite fix the stuttering, but the controller is comfortable to play with since the game is so small I would recommend putting it on SSD if the extra second or so loading is important to you.
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>>170498092
>Stuttering

HollowknightCODEX.iso > eject
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>>170494750
I was there just now and god was I happy I didnt accumulate a 6th bossfight that I kinda didnt really wanna do right now...
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>>170497124
>They're all identical, just like the Gargoyle fight from Dark Souls 2, but with 7 instead of 5.
I didn't bother playing DaS2 because of shit like that.
Is the 2nd nail upgrade beyond that point?
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>>170497839
It's appropriate since she was raised by spiders.
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>>170497839
Is hornet a hollow knight or just a regular ol bug
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>>170498261
no, you can max out the nail without ever fighting them.
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>>170497412
>They're all identical, just like the Gargoyle fight from Dark Souls 2, but with 7 instead of 5.
I was gonna say the fight REALLY strongly reminded me of Abyss Watchers for obvious reasons.
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>>170498261
Nope. The Nail Upgrades are gated by Pale Ore, #1 costs just Geo, #2 costs 1 Pale, #3 costs 2 Pale, and #4 costs 3 Pale.
They're spread around the map in some wild spots, but there's none in the Watcher's tower.
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By the way can I liberally sell all the journals, effigies and what not that have no other purpose right now?
Thy money would sure come in handy but I cant believe that the guy would give me this much money for them if they are in no way relevant for me.

Same kinda goes for the charms that break when I die: do I need them in my inventory for 100% or is it enough if I have held them at some point?
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>>170498328
A mix
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>>170498472
Thing about Abyss Watchers is you only really fight 2 followed by a ramped up fight.
And you get help with the 2nd one from an Abyssal Watcher.
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So is there anything important i should buy from the little guy? I bought the money magnet and the rotten egg for now, but otherwise i have no idea what else i should get my hands on.

Just got my ass kicked 2 times by the needle and line girl, and meet some swordsman dude inside of a building after having murdered the guy he said he wanted to talk to. and i have enough money for a simple key, but not for the lantern.

Also, once i do get a normal key, should i open what looked like a tram cart first, or the house to the right of the first village.
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>>170498578
>>170498329
Where can I find pale, then? I've only been through a small amount of places, and haven't come across any dreamers yet. I have (what I assume to be) all the movement based upgrades. Dash, Wings, and wall jump.
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>>170498616
You do not need them at all.

The charms can be broken. When they break you just repair them.
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wah!
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>>170498786
Rolling rolling
rolling rolling rolling
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>>170498914
Good to know. That will definitely save some time I would have had to spend farming money...

How do I repair the charms after breaking them? And are they worth it? Extra damage always sounds good but not sure if its worth three notches.
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>>170498928
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>>170498871
You don't open the tram cart for a while. It requires a pass, not a key. If I remember right, keys are used only to open the sewers, the soul recovery person, and a bath house.
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>>170498871
you'll get to a point where probably you'll have so much money you can buy anything.

Eggs are a currency to feed the shaman/wizard which the simple key unlocks his hut.There are two simple keys, one unlocks his hut, while another unlocks a door in City of Tears
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>>170498871
The Key doesn't open the Tram.
But save your Key. Ideally, you wanna get the Lantern next. It makes so many areas bearable.
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>>170499019
Guy you bought em from repairs them for like 300 geo. Later in the game you will have more geo than you need so don't worry about spending a bit on them, especially since you can always sell those knick knacks for geo when you want to use them on important stuff.
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>>170499080
Three simple keys
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>Welcome to Dirtmouth, how tough are ya?
>How tough am I?! I went through the entirety of deepnest.
>Pfft, so?
>Without the lantern.
>...R-Right this way, sir.
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Stepping into the City of Tears for the first time brought back fuzzy feelings of reaching Anor Londo for the first time in the original Dark Souls.

Man I love this game.
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>>170498909
you are missing 3 exploration skills.

There are pale ore in Deepnest, Ancient Basin, Crystal Peak, Kingdom's Edge.

The other two are rewards for essence and grub hunting
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>>170498909
>In the side area of Ancient Basin around where you find Cloth
>Deepnest behind a breakable wall in the lower portion
>The Arena for the 2nd Trial
>Hallownest's Crown at the top of the Crystal Caverns
>From the Seer for 300 Essence
>Grubfather for a bunch of his kids saved
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>>170499369
Do you know what the final Grub reward is?

The pale ore is the 2nd to last one i believe
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>>170499369
don't you think that is a little too much Help?
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>>170499460
There's 2 more, a King's Idol and then a Charm.
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>>170499467
If he wants the map, he can have it.
He asked where the 6 Ore were and I listed it.
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>>170499284
i didnt you could heal until fighting the soul master
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>>170499723
Did you not read the messages in the starting area?
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>>170499792
nope, that or i my mind was in something while else while playing the tutorial

i am that kind of stupid

i also didnt go to the nailsmith at all
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Reply with your favorite fight GO
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?
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>>170500064
soul master
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what the fuck is his problem?
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>>170500085
Do you have the shit charm on
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>>170500117
he is like us, no?
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>>170500085
He's a friend. Catch up to him!
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>Lost Kin
>Has gone into the Stunned animation FIVE times
>Not dead yet
Jesus Christ.
>>170500117
>>170500219
No. He is just a bug warrior.
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>>170500117
His father is disappointed in him and his mother betrayed him
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>>170500476
do we know anything about what lies beyond the cliffs/edge?
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>>170500590
Windy, sandy plains where the King's power can't reach
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>>170500590
We know it is a desolate wasteland beyond the edges of the Kingdom and that very little comes from the outside world to Hallownest and Dirtmouth.
That one Arena dude who dies like a bitch is from the outside world.
Quirrel is as well as far as I can tell. or he left for a time and came back.
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>>170500117
He's tried to be a hero, but look how fucked and shitty Hallownest has become over time. He may have been normal once, but his morale is broken because he can't help anyone or do a damn thing.
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>>170500816
Quirrel was a student of the Teacher, but erased his memory and left until it was his time to return and help a worthy vessel break the seals and replace the Hollow Knight.
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>>170500816
When was it mentioned that Quirrel went beyond the kingdoms edge?
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>>170501015
In the comic.
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fresh from the drawthread
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>>170501374
CUTE~!
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>>170501374
LEWD~!
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>>170501374
a-are they fucking?
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>>170501581
>>>/v/369809003
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>>170500180
yeah it's optimal
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>>170495791
You can only expect so much from australians. They fact that they can even use unity is an accomplishment anon.
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How do I use a rancid egg?
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>>170501374
There's also 3 from /trash/, but they're all NSFW.
http://trashdump.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=hollow_knight
2 of Hornet and 1 of HK.
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>>170502296
Graveyard lady takes them in exchange for her services
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>>170502296
guy next to the well in dirtmouth gets your soul back for a rancid egg
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>Pop by Legeater to buy the Charms I forgot about
>Wonder if I can Dream Nail the Bench, since it's a corpse
Kek.
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>>170502494
you can dream nail a lot of dead things

The king is one notable example
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>>170500221
I liked that sequence a lot, but the boss was pretty shitty.
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>>170500816
You start beyond the kingdom, and Zote is from outside the kingdom as well i believe
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>>170502752
No cost too great...
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>>170502768
Agreed. Nosk was a real let-down after that amazing buildup.
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>>170502874
have you ever been so much of a cuck that you release a kingdom killing plague because the king didn't worship you anymore
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>>170502879
Just charging left and right. Should have at least spat things at you.
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>>170494606
Forgive me, but what's the Dream Nail? Is it the first upgrade you get from the nailsmith? I do have that. I also have the Pale Ore, but haven't gone back yet.

I just got double jump and beat the empty vessel.
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>>170503331
go to the resting grounds
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>>170503173
Or ripped corpses off the back layers and flung them at you only for them to reanimate.
>>170502959
You do realize the Wyrm became the King, right? The Infection was borne from his transformation.
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>>170493879
>>170493650
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I was unaware you could actually pause the fight with Soul Master/Tyrant when he transitions by just jumping onto the side.
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>>170503816
CUTE, YET NARCISSISTIC!
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H-how much health does Failed Champion have if I have a maxed Nail and am using Fragile Strength?
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>mfw got Jew'd
FUCK THE BANK
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>>170502752
What does he say?
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>>170505245
>>170502874
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>>170504658
Three knock downs.
He does double contact damage only on first phase, so you can equip stuff that lets you damage race him for the second phase on.
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>>170495791
>'''''''''''''''''''
Oh god, I can already tell this is going to be '''''''''''''''''''insightful'''''''''''''''''''".
>Enemies that are killed don't dissapear, they are stored in an unreacheable place in the map
>And keep consuming memory, that is why the game shits itself in the arena and pretty much everywhere
Hahaha... No. This is called object pooling. The alternative is destroying and instantiating objects, which has far greater overhead. 'using memory' does not slow the game down. In fact, performance hitches are more likely to come up for the exact opposite reason to the one you state.

>The game doesn't even uses graphic card memory
>It uses regular RAM
Do you have any idea how a computer even fucking works?
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Is there list of creatures anywhere as he goes in the game? I missing two creature and i want to know who they are.
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>>170504716
Protip: she's at hidden hotspot.
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>>170500590
Transcendent plateaus?
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Finished arena yesterday. Most powerful combination of trinket turn out to be Long Nail, Longer Nail, Fast Nail, Longer Invulnerability.
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>Find some place with HOMING EXPLOSIVE JELLYFISH CORE
>End up finding an old lady who runs a banking service
>Decide to open an account
>She stutters while giving her assurance on the money's safety

I don't trust that stutter. Is my money going to be ok if use her services?
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>>170506660
Yeah, don't worry, you're just reading into it too much.
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>>170506660
Itl be safer with her than you really. They wont disappear or anything.
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>>170506660
Nawh. She's just nervous. You find out more about her later as you give more and more money.

She hasn't seen people in years so she's a bit rusty at socialisation. She likes your company and misses telling for a bunch of people at once. She gets really touched and grateful that you trust her and let her do what she loves again. She hopes everyone will come back some day.
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>>170503736
What? Radiance was byproduct of transformation of deign wyrm?
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>>170500117
How do i release him from arena cage?
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>>170507329
Do the first trial
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>>170507362
Again? Oh okay. I do not have to kill him or anything? Why everyone have such tragic ends? Im looking at you caterpillar king, wtf that not what i collected them for you creep.
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>>170507547
Yeah. You fight him in the arena, but he doesn't die.
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So my stupid mind had the brilliant idea of going through an speedrun using the deepnest route without map and use of charms.
With the broken nail i already regret my decision.
And as a matter of fact about false knight turns out you can't bail out an second time even after defeating him, because he repairs the wall.
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http://steamcommunity.com/games/367520#ann
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>>170508285
>http://steamcommunity.com/games/367520#ann
>- Reduced slowdown issues around Failed Tramway.
>- Relinked missing dialogues for Lemm & Leg Eater.
Well that was my only issues with it.
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>>170508285
>18k members

Alive game
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>>170508721
>Restored Cloth event in Dirtmouth.
Naisu desu ne
>there are people who let her die to the Traitor Lord
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I wonder if they all actually bugs. In abyss we found that weird statue that had bones and bugs do not have bones, only exoskeleton.
Also is you read mask maker thoughts he question if bugs know of face behind their mask face.
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>>170509278
What? You can save her?
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>>170509278
SHE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DIE?!?!?!
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>>170509425
>>170509437
If you don't save her in the Ancient Basin before you fight the Traitor Lord, she won't show up to get killed. Then you can save her in the Basin afterwards.
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>>170509491
Oh so you are the one who did it wrong

She gains her confidence and if you let her die during the traitor fight, she talks about how it was a great fight and she is glad to have fought or something
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>>170492507
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>>170509582
Yeah, I think she did want to die in some sort of Valhalla-esque fashion, judging by her dream message.
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>>170509582
>she talks
Not if you contentedly kill her spirit with dreamer trying to talk with her ._.
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>>170509687
god damn i fucking love this game
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>>170509660
LEWD
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>>170509687
Something I've noticed is that if don't absorb Cloth's ghost after she dies, she just leaves on her own later.

F
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>>170510916
Tfw i took her from her friend
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Cloth is a dude
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>>170511909
it is obvious that she is based on dark souls man eater mildred
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>>170511964
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>>170512141
touche
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>>170512141
This is straight outta the Hollow Knight Manual.
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>>170512141
>>170512228
I did hear once that Cloth was changed from a guy to a girl.
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I tried fixing the face and making the feet more faithful to her design, but I'm not sure if I made it better or worse.
It would help if I knew how to change brush sizes in Gimp
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>>170512458
Bracket keys IIRC.
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>doing the 2nd Colosseum challenge
>pretty easy
>get to part where the floor is spikes and you have to wall jump everywhere
>suddenly constant frame skips
>get my ass fucked

why
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>>170512532
Thanks. I'll try again tomorrow.

It's not a bad picture, but I wish Scas didn't work his foot fetish into most of his work. Hollow Knight characters don't even have feet.
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>>170512228
So did mine dude.
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>>170512673
There's a random glitch that makes you invincible for the entire challenge.
But it also disables most of your actions, including picking up items. You need to pick up the reward to leave.
>mfw
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>>170512837
The copy I have does say Cloth is a she.
Could the anon who linked the preorder extras at release day have gone out of their way to change this one detail?
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>>170513018
Maybe you should read his page.
>Boobs
>Hunks
>cock
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Best girl
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>>170513063
*insert dream nail here revealing her to be a total cunt who looks down on everyone*
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>>170513063
>he didn't use the dream nail on her
She's a cunt. Sure her laugh and the way she kicks her feet is cute, but she's laughing at your chances of survival.
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>>170512869
I have no problems avoiding damage at all though, but the second the floor spikes appear my frames go to shit and I cant do anything except flail around and hope that this is the last part of the challenge
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>>170513063
She survived ordeal being in the middle of it. I wonder how old is she? She was outcast from old elite before kingdom crumbled and that was really really long time before you came there.
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>>170513062
Sure, what I'm talking about is the whole "his"/"her" thing. I did hear once that Cloth was originally designed as a man so I'm confused now.
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>>170513271
Probably about as long as Hornet if I had to fathom a guess.
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>>170512458
hey

i like you and your feet drawings
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>>170513281
There was a mis-communication between the Backer and Cherry prior to revealing Cloth and it was subsequently corrected before release.
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Come closer, anon...
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>>170513376
I'm not Scas. I'm not even a footfag.
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>>170513387
I love free mana.
Talking about spells. I think they should make healing and other magic use separate resource really, because you always save mana to heal yourself and rarely use it offensive.
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>>170513507
my bad
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>>170513295
tfw no campaign to watch the empire crumble
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What's up with the weaver's den?
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Is the ending of the White Palace implying the King's use of the void backfired on him and killed everyone there?
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>>170514494
Nobody knows. There's this ball-headed NPC who runs off when you're leaving the place, but she never appears after that.
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>>170514613
I think the infection just got to them all, the kingsmould are all infected
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>>170514613
I thing its possible its got overrun by failed Hallow Knights and their ghosts. Or by Radiance plague, who know?
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>>170514693
It's just that the dead kingsmould are bleeding black and the invincible flying bug things are filled with "black liquid". One anon once posted a scene I missed there, where you dream nail one of the corpses bleeding the void and it talks about the "sea" (likely that pool next to the lighthouse in the Abyss) calling to him.
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how the shit do I get to the map maker in the royal waterways? I'm right next to him, but he's blocked from every angle.
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>>170514939
Yeah, that one is in the lighthouse. Now that I think about it, the fountain that you throw money into also has that black liquid coming out, and the retainers around it are similarly bleeding black.
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>>170515275
nvm i'm a blind retard
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what do rancid eggs do and should I buy them from the guy in waterways?
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>>170515858
Rancid eggs are a currency to a shopkeeper who will bring your shade to you in his shop
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>>170515858
On the edge of Dirtmouth there's a door with a simple lock. Inside is a guy who moves your Shade to you in exchange for an egg.
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Okay I just discovered that with Joni's blessing Grubberfly's elegy works while striking up or down even if you were hurt. Combined with Quck Slash I'm getting some serious dps action on Radience. Still can't beat it though.
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What are some good charm combo's?

I know that the odour and the womb mix to spawn exploding bugs

I also know shape of unn changes depending on some other charms you have
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Patchnote
http://steamcommunity.com/games/367520/announcements/detail/539709093889474169
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>>170518509
Quck Slash is great i did with >>170506620 for third try or something. You do not have to jump so high to him.
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>>170518908
The thing is, with Grubberfly you don't have to jump at all, at least during the first phase.
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>>170519039
Yea but this this combination you can not heal.
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Can anyone explain to me how the fountain works?
I'm in front of it now and I don't want to drop all of my geo for fuck all.
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>>170520062
It eats 3k geo and give you part of SOUL vessel.
Expensive? Yes, but you have too much extra money at endgame anyway.
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Stuck at the Colosseum stage 2

How the fuck do i kill the giant grasshopper when the walls close in on you?
The framerates too shit to hit them from above consistently
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>>170520492
Trinket on fast swings, longer invulv.
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>>170520492
Dash under them when they jump at you and then hit them once, repeat until they die
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How the hell am I supposed to beat this guy the second time around?

Every time I try and dodge out of his attacks a stupid fucking Folly fades into existence and I run right into the god dammed thing.
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>>170521023
He got like 3 pattern, he a bit hard in arena 3 when there other mages at same time but by itself hes no danger.
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>>170521370
I've already beat him by himself, I'm trying to fight him with all the stupid ghosts spawning infinitely in the room. Its insane trying to deal with all of the attacks and enemies.
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>>170521452
Always kill the ghosts asap, should give you enough time to hit him after an attack before another spawns
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>>170521775
Got em....Changed tactics to just spam ranged shots with Spirit at him. Barely managed to win...but at least it worked.
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So I've returned to the false knight room because apparently there's a dream fight here?
I climbed to the top of the room and there's sobbing all around but I can't figure out what to do
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>>170522347
Theres a breakable wall on the right side
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>>170522403
Aw, shit, thanks.
No idea how I didn't notice that.
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>>170522542
np, they're easy enough to miss if you aren't paying attention
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Playing with a keyboard doesn't feel great, but I just can't seem to get my dualshock 3 working. How are you all finding playing with a keyboard? I just got the mothwing cloak like 30 minutes ago so it's still early days for me, but I definitely feel like I'd be having an easier time using a controller.
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>>170523353
¿que?
I just rebound jump to space, because my pinky started to ache, other than that, I'm fine and dandy.
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Do fragile charms break if you die in a dream fight?
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where do I find joni's blessing or whatever the charm that turns your regular hearts into blue hearts is called
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>>170524481
howling cliffs

i the last area, keep an eye on blue butterfly plant on the edge
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>>170524481
I think you get there through greenland but you need double jump or something like that.
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>tfw failed champion pushing my shit in

Fuck
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When should I start killing dreamers?
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>>170526310
well, you dont have to right away.

keep exploring first
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>>170526310
They don't deserved that, they not even fighting back. I wish there was other way to brake bound.
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>>170526595
i agree
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What's the deal with the cracked open egg in the stag nest?
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>>170530423
Stag is the oldest of his kind and only surviving one as far as he knows. That egg could be a lone, young stag that left the den and went on its own.
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meanwhile in deepnest.....
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WAAAH~
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>>170531946
>>170498928
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What's up with these trees scattered about that look like they have a bunch of dreamcatchers attached?
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>>170526595
Is dreamnailing confirmed as killing? I viewed it more as instrumentality of sorts, all we really did was present them with an opportunity to let go.
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>>170498928
Anyone got the sound clip of these?
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I've encountered an npc near the entrance to the surface that flew away the moment he noticed me, what's up with that?

>>170532469
No but google Owen Wilson, you will get tons of basically the same stuff.
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>>170532435
>>170526595
>>170526716
The dreamers generally want you to do what you are working towards. If you remember, the guy who helped you fight the boss in the teacher's archives tells you the dreamer there wants you to succeed or just to do it.
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>>170532548
>I've encountered an npc near the entrance to the surface that flew away the moment he noticed me, what's up with that?
???
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Anyone else felt Nosk fight was underwhelming?
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>>170532805
>>170532548
It's probably Hornet. Was it by the Black Egg?
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>saw a thread on /v/
>bored
>download it and play it
>haven't been engrossed in a game like this for ages

This game is good, I wonder why you don't hear much people talking about it. I'm also lost all the time and I don't know where to go. I saw on youtube some players having a map where you can zoom in and out, where do I go to get that?
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>>170532947
No it was right next to the well, i'm at the endgame so I know most of the characters, couldn't recognize that one.
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>>170533151
Should have immediately hit that screenshot key. No idea what it is.
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>>170492507
should i buy this game?
seems great from hat ive seen
but dont have a controller, should i get one for it/is it worth it?
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>>170533545
it's literally GOTY for some people including myself
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>>170532552
Don't the dreamers trap you in a dream when you touch their monuments in the resting grounds?
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>>170533848
I think at that point they're scared you're trying to fuck things up more because they know you're out to kill the dreamers and break the seal.
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So what's that magic charm combination for white palace again?
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>>170534487
Grub charm, hive charm so you can heal and regain health gradually.
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>>170532993
Each area has a map to purchase in that area. Press tab to view for the area you're in, and double tap tab to view all your maps together for a global map.
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How do you get into the hive?
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I just got the dream nail, where do I go next?

My jump upgrades is only wall hang and dash.
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>>170532263
>he doesn't know about the wheel trees
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>fight the stomp spell wizard bug
>jump to absorb the soul like usual
>It fucking comes back to life from the soul pickup
>second phase intensifies
Anyone else love shit like this? Like deliberately breaking conventions you've been taught?
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I really loved the feeling of being in a foreign hostile place that eventually turned into me going through my backyard. Great ride, trying to push through the lag and some fruitless backtracking did somewhat ruin the experience for me as well as me spoiling the shit out of everything but then again if I didn't I would probably drop the game in the first few hours before the wall jump.

I especially how there was always shit to find that made me excited about finding it, most of the game give you some shitty equipment but here we also got a piece of the plot or an interesting character. I don't know why putting content that is not essential to progression makes so much difference but it does and even though technically it's small rooms with characters that have barely any dialogue or animations.
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>>170536340
Like 4 or so bosses have this mechanic. They're not coming back to life, though, you're fighting their soul or something.
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>>170536473
They're not talking about the dream rematches.
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i got the dream nail before fighting hornet for the first time and got three messages out of it. will post here and spoil

1/3
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2/3
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3/3

last one is most interesting to me. any /deepestlore/ stuff going on with this?
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>>170536654
>>170536775
>>170536884
Neat.
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>>170536936
>>170536884
ah bollocks to it, text is small enough anyway, unhiding

still though, what did she mean by this
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>Clearing the way so I can ez-mode the Grey Mourner's Quest
>Find Quirrel along the way
>Chill with him for 10 minutes
>This on the return after nabbing flower
Oh...
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>>170537320
Don't they all respawn when you start the quest? I know the fat things just before the mourner do.
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>>170537659
They only respawn if you sit on the bench.
Also, did it.
>>170537056
>Only pity for your cursed kind
She's looking down on your and those like yourself because their path is a dark road that leads to the same end, the same fate, Vessels that shall break.
>Too weak, little ghost
She's judging you as ill-fitting for the tasks to come.
>No shadow will haunt me
She believes that you are chasing after her like a tormented spirit and wants to put you down.
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Anyone got a complete list of the Hunter's Journal? I'm missing 2 and I have no idea where as I have 100%.
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Where do I get the first half of the kingsoul?
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>>170505631
Good shit nigger. Shut his autistic ass down with facts.
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>>170538798
>Half 1: White Lady after the Traitor Lord boss in Queen's Gardens.
>Half 2: The end of White Palace.
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>You can cheat the right switch in the 2nd part of White Palace
Neat.
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So why does HK do anything at all if we are The void/darkness which is supposed to be without a will/emotions. Or does us having a form made us driven to the black egg kind of like that masked guy and the teacher. Also what happened to him afterwards, do we see him anywhere else? I liked meeting him randomly.

Oh and also was creation of HK a numbers game or did shit broke after the first one? Also how is it that there is only one sibling on a quest at a time? And it seems that we are one in ages, considering that nobody have seen anything like us before.
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>>170539285
>Also what happened to him afterwards, do we see him anywhere else? I liked meeting him randomly.
Quirrel last appears in the Blue Lake. You can sit with him for a while and chill.
Then when you leave and come back, he's left his nail behind and disappeared like in >>170537320 .
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Any noticeable difference after patch?
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>>170539830
I was playing the beta patch and I personally didn't see that much of a reduction of framedrops/slowdown. I would like to assume that some PCs will see improvement.
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>>170535457

City of tears (recomended) or deepnest.
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I just started and I'm getting continuous stuttering every three steps. I can run other similar games without problems.
I thought this was being optimized?
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>>170539142
>And you can do it again just after that one saw jump in part 4
Kek.
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How the fuck do I beat this bitch. am i missing something? all i have is the basic spell from the Snail Shaman but I can barely hit her with it and it doesn't seem to do jack shit to her gigantic health pool when I do.
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>>170541045
Just keep tapping her with your Nail.
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Just hit her, it's not that hard to recognize her attacks.
On the ground: Nail Charge, Nail throw
In the air: Diagonal dash locked on you, thread shield thing like on your pic, Vertical stomp
Once you can recognize each attack, you can hit her a lot during her recovery.
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>>170541316

I'm having big trouble ranging her with it. It doesn't stagger her so half the time she'll just tank the hit and rape my face. The only time I can consistently hit her without taking damage is after dodging her plunging attack.
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I really like this guy's mask style.
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The map for fog canyon just dissapeared. It's just gone. The saleswoman in Dirtmouth isn't selling it either.
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Wheres the key to the tower of love?
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>>170541874
Queen's Garden
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Anyone tried a more Magic focused run?
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>>170542526
>run
God no. I've done it for several bosses where I can either cheese them with it or spam it reliably tho.
Like the Warrior Spirit in Kingdom's Edge. Get him next to a wall and spam up Spell and he melts.
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So i found a shop in the city of tears, that buys the wanderer journals and crests that i have. Do i just sell them, or is there any use for them outside of selling for money?
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>>170542883
They have no use outside of selling
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>>170542883
They're completely useless so just sell them.
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>>170541458
No, you can hit her after every single attack if you're quick, jump over her when she dashes at you then hit, jump over the nail when she throws it, hit her and jump over when it comes back.
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>>170542883
Don't sell them if you think you might lose the money or aren't going to use it shortly.
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>>170542417
Where exactly?
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>>170543735
In a part of the map that looks kinda like this.
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>>170543735
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>>170543896
It's actually the jutting bit just above that.
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help me
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>>170544106
>>170543896
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>>170544213
I've already used the key, the door just isn't going up more than that. It's stuck.
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>>170544296
Oh. I didn't realize.
Try reloading the game and going back.
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>>170543896
Thank you
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Where is the Weaver's Den?
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>>170546504
Behind a breakable wall in Deepnest. It's guarded by a Devout.
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Do the ghosts in the glade next to the moth seer count towards completion?
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>>170547758
No.

Don't do it anon
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>>170547758
No. you only need 2400 Essence to get 100%.
There's 2602 (or 2603 I forget) in the game and they only give you 29 total.
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>>170512458
I touched up the "feet" a bit. Still a little jaggy but it's an improvement.
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How do I reach the grub near the white lady?
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>>170549048
There's a second wall to break iirc
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Whats this guy story and why 2 big flies spawn if i hit it many times?
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>>170549637
It's Oro's training dummy. It has the same mask as those big things that appear when you hit it enough times.
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>>170549174
Where exactly?
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>>170549862
Same depth you broke the one to get to the mourner at. Just look for the cracks.
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How do I beat this guy?
Even with the shadow dash I keep getting hit.
>>
So how do you do this one again?
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>>170550414
Extra invuln time charm, quick slash charm, extra damage charm, just spam his ass down and dodge what you can. Don't get greedy with attacks if you want to fight him normally, you can get maybe one attack in between lasers.
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>>170549637
Master trained 4 brother, 3 of which give you sword art and this one forth.
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>>170550450
There is a small gap between each. Probably the hardest part of White Palace so don't feel bad.
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>>170550450
>try to play hollow knight
>super meat boy opens instead
It seems on not the only one who ran into this bug
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>>170550450
>>170550632
>>170550657

I never asked for this
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>>170551021
GUYS
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>>170539793

I found his body below the arena. When I dream nailed him, all it said was "...Why?..."

RIPIP Quirrel, you were a bro.
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>>170551564
That's not Quirrel, that's Tiso.
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>>170550414
Learn his pattern: when he screams he will do mass attack so concentrate on dodging and with his usual attack don't try to squeeze too much of yours and you will be fine. he also does jumps but they are pretty much irrelevant.
>>
>>170551558
FAREWELL DEAR FRIEND
>>
Hey, how much geo do you have to donate to open the kings door?
>>
I've dream nailed all the dreamers, if I go to the black Egg and fight does the game end? Can I fight whatever's in the black egg and then get more endings? Where do I have to go to unlock more endings?
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>>170552343
0
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>>170552526
You go back to the bench
I did everything before fighting the hollow knight and can't get The Hollow Knight achievement, I think. Only the other 2 ending ones.
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>Find a bug lost in the mushroom area
>She thanks me and goes to surface
>Sits on the bench and goes "gasp" every time she sees me and blushes

CUTE.

Also, on another note, i feel lost as fuck. I feel like i may be skipping shit but there's just so much to explore.

I've been to the city of tears, after opening the gate and getting trapped inside since the gate didn't want to open again, made my way through until i found another bug transport, went to the start of the game thinking there may be secrets, found a whole new area, fought some spirit got a new weapon skill, still grateful for catographer, but wonder how he got from the city to where i am now.

Is there any specific place i should focus on? I know about the mines, the area with graves, city, the forest the area above, which i think i fully explored, or at least what i could of it.

Only major bosses i fought so far were the false knight, needle girl and the ghost from the "wise" dude who wants to ASCEND!
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>>170552938
I don't know anything about the "other" endings, I just assume there are more than 1 because of some of the talk my eye caught on /v/ threads. Is the hollow knight the black egg boss?
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>>170553259
Yes, he is.
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>>170553119
>Find a bug lost in the mushroom area
Where?
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>>170553526
Bench to the right of mantis lords on the map.
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>>170553259
The first Ending is the only one you can get locked out of and you get it by just beating the Egg boss.
#2 requires you to unite the Void.
#3 also requires the Awakened Dream Nail.
#4 requires ending 3, 100% completion, and for you to learn from the Mushroom Whose Poem is lost in the depths of the Kingdom's Edge.
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>>170553617
How do you reach her?
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>>170553937
There's a hidden area on the left side on the bottom.
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I didn't think i would like this game so much. I'm still not even halfway done i think, much to explore still, but so far, it's been a good mix of gloomy, comfy, good atmosphere, challenging and it can even be cute at times, and while i haven't seen much of it, it seems to be fairly lore heavy, hell i can even Read people's minds with my dream needle, which is fairly fun.

It's fairly charming.

How come i don't see much about this game? This is like one of those game that deserve an award or something.
>>
>>170554085
It has 0 advertising (actual, not counting discussion here and on /v/.)
Metroidvanias are a relatively niche genre.
The game is too hard for normies.

It's definitely known tho.
And we had constant threads on /v/ for a week following release. Was comfy as hell.
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>>170554049
Near the knight statue? Or in the mantis boss room?
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>>170554561
Walk left from Dashmaster statue.
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>>170554085
the vidya press has barely touched it, leading to a dearth of reviews. and popular web dorks haven't been talking about it in their silly lets play videos or other content.

the potential community for this game could get bigger, given that metroidvania fans are a sizable subculture (even if not huge). but i think we won't really see the game get attention until the Switch port is available, so i wish the devs luck in getting that to a speedy rollout.
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>>170554591
Thanks man, went twice slashing everything and didnt think of walking straight through.
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>>170552938
>You go back to the bench

Just to be clear, you mean that after defeating the final boss you keep all your progress and can continue to try to get the other endings?

Don't want to mess this up.
>>
>>170554964
Yes, absolutely. Nothing about your save changes once you beat the hollow knight except for hunter log additions.
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>>170554964
Yep. In fact you actually need to do this if you want the hunter's journal entry for the final boss.
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>>170555121
>>170555142
Nice. So it's only the timed achievements that are dependent on doing everything in a single run?

I hate it when games lock you out of stuff.
>>
>>170555631
HK does have 2 sets of mutually exclusive achievements though. One for Zote and one for the Nailsmith.
>>
what is the best controller to use for these kinda games
>>
Has anyone ever Dream Nailed the False Knight's mace?
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>>170555760
I found my PS3 controller works like a dream.
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>>170555997
Herp
>>170555875
Derp.
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>>170555875
I have an Xbone and PS4 controller, PS4 works better. Anything but a keyboard.
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Guys do saves work based on checkpoints or benches?
I'm in white palace now and I gotta leave house in a few minutes but my last bench was half an hour ago.
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>>170556264
Just don't turn off the game. The game will spawn you at your last slept bench no matter what on eeath/game load.
It saves everything you do tho.
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>>170554085

The game doesn't carry you at all.

Dark souls pretty much plays itself with all the signs/stains/summons as a comparison.

It's really great but not for the normie market, rather for people who've been playing for a longer time and want that old feeling to return.
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>>170515351
Wait how did you get to him? I've been playing this game for hours so I'm a little retarded at the moment too. Help a blind retard out.

Waterways is closed from the mantis village side and I'm not sure what to do.
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>>170556587
There's 2 entrances to Royal Waterways. Through the locked hatch in City of Tears and then Cornifer is all the way to the left in a room with a combat - locked door and the hatch to the Mantis Village.
And through the Deepnest Tramway into the far edge of it.
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>>170539142
how
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>>170557147
After the room transition, there's the room with the accumulator switch and the vaulted ceiling. From the right wall, jump up left, dash left, then jump again. Timing and position is tight, but doable. Then hit the switch up there, drop back down, and flip the accumulator.
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How do you do the mister mushroom quest?

I talked to him in fungal wastes once but that was it. I don't think he left that area.
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>>170557626
Go read his Poem in Kingdom's Edge. It's hidden in a wall on the sprawling path down to the Super Geo Cache and it'll tell you where to go next.
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So I have the kingsoul and the awakened dream nail.
What do I do now?
I gotta unite the void somehow right?
Kingsoul says it opens up a birthplace but I've already been to the abyss.
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>>170557864
Well, go back, because you clearly missed something
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>>170557864
The Abyss is a graveyard. The Birthplace is beneath the Abyss.
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>>170558000
>>170558058
Oh, alright, thanks.
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>>170551948
Took me like 4 hours to finish all of White Palace, what a fucking shit show

*SHINK*
*shunk*
*SHINK*
*shunk*
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>>170492507
gog version patch when?
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>>170558141
i felt a little bummed out when it was over. not that i'm a glutton for punishment, i just feel like it didn't culminate in one final big challenge. the stuff at the start felt the most difficult for whatever reason.
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>>170558294
A boss fight would have been nice, and I feel one more bench checkpoint partway up the last section was sorely needed.
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>>170558485
Or better yet:
>Move the Kingsmould corpse to Crossroads
>Make the King's Chair a Bench
>When you come out, the Kingsmould is infected and raring for a fight, similar to Lost Kin in initiation
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Imagine making your palace out of spikes and buzzsaws. If I was decent at MS paint I'd make a Space Pirate comic edit with the Pale King asking for this shit to be built.
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>>170556998
God fucking dammit, the doors were combat locked. I heard the music kick in, but I figured it was kind of a joke considering the enemies weren't hard. Also, I can't remember any other combat-locked doors in the game that let you just... leave.

Anyway, thanks for saving me another hour of frustration.
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>>170553119
>dreamnail her
>"my savior... so close..."
>sit next to her
>blushes and fondles with her hands
is that how it feels to be the senpai?
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i beat dung defender but i can't get inside his room. how do i get in?
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Are there crits or something? I just oneshot a red shieldguard with a charged hit from the second sword. This shouldn't be possible.
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how do i save this creature?
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>>170562552
go down, to the statue of the dashmaster, hidden wall to the left.
enjoy your waifu.
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What does the dung defender badge do?
I don't have smell-o-vision.
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>>170561574
i spoke to him after the boss fight in the same room i beat him but it's still closed. what do i have to do?
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>>170563514
The poop cloud damages enemies that get caught in it.
It's really useful for some bosses.
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>>170563681
Hit the big lever to the right of his room.
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where is the longnail?
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>>170564273

Shop, southeast in forgotten xroads.
Need dash.
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>>170564273
Buy it from Shalubra.(SE of crossroads
Theres a similar charm you can get after mantis lords
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why does it say it took me 3 seconds
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>>170565245
There are some glitches relating to save reading and time.
The "World Record" is 2 seconds.
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>>170563808
i can't find it. is there a video that shows it somewhere?
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>Struggle on Lost Kin
>Pretty easy boss fight but I keep dodging into everything he's doing and being bad
>Just give up on dodging and start mashing attack while looking at him, healing during the breaks
>Win easily and quickly
Don't even bother dodging guys. Just Fragile Strength and the Attack speed up charm and just mash as fast as you can. I wonder how many other bosses can be solved like this. I got further in Watcher Knights than I ever did before by doing this.
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>>170565601
Yeah.
>10 Notches
>Longnail of Pride
>Defender's Crest makes the adds totally negligible
>Increased Iframes
>And Quick Slash
>Literally just wail on him until you get through all 6 or 7 stuns and finish him
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>>170565601
Yeah playing aggressively is sometimes better.
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>>170565782
There's aggressively and then there's that. It was a little disappointing to be honest. The fight was very well constructed in terms of punishing you for following instinctual responses and not thinking/paying enough attention. Like that jump in the air and slash is obviously designed to hit you if you just try to dash away from him. It's a really great and engaging way to make a boss.

I'm just sad that the solution was to mash the attack button and take all damage to the face without giving a shit. Might be one of the biggest dropped balls I've seen so far design-wise. Which isn't saying much because I haven't seen many, holy shit this game is good.
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where is nosk in the map? i found the path to it but decided to head back at the time to not lose fragile greed. but now i want to fight it but i don't know where it is
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>>170566206
>The fight was very well constructed in terms of punishing you for following instinctual responses and not thinking/paying enough attention
This is honestly the most surprising thing about this boss in particular I feel.
It's pretty manageable when you pay specific attention, but if you just play naturally, I feel you ALWAYS dodge and jump into his attacks. It's so weird.
It's like some slapstick comedy sketch.
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Where is map guy in Soul Sanctum? I already defeated the tyrant soul and explored all that I can, but no trace of him. Did I miss him?
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>>170566441
It's because he's a Hollow Vessel designed to be just like you. It's like an awkward mirror match.
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>>170566441
It was very deliberate and I love them for that. The goo attack was also the same, if you try to dodge away from him like your instinct would suggest ( because he just did a plunging attack ) you'll also get hit. It's great.

>>170566586
It's part of the city of tears.
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>>170566586
You can reach him from the elevator at the bottom left of the Sanctum. Break the wall on the left side of the shaft.
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>>170567135
The elevator that brings you to a locked door, or the first one to the right?
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>>170567516
>>170567135
Nvm I only needed to rest on a bench, just like that anon said.
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>>170562552
What creature? Can only see the mc
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>>170499287
I'm glad other people are vocalizing this.
After all the shitty decaying areas before you hit City of Tears and find proper knights and capable opponents guarding a more or less intact city. Anor Londo was my immediate thought as well and it was rad as hell.
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I'm about 8 hours in. Does this game get any better or is that just it?
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>Beat the mantis guardians
>Now all the mantis in the area don't bother me and the adults bow to me

This game has so much attention to detail it's crazy.
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Not having a map is the most annoying thing. Fog Canyon is especially bad with this because you explore it 2-3 times before you can find Conifer. It's not difficult or anything since the area has very few rooms compared to most other parts of the map, but not being able to bring up the map just triggered my OCD a little.

I'm pretty sure I've cleared out Kingdom's Edge too and I never found a map for that either. That was significantly more challenging because it's a much more labyrinthine area, but somehow less annoying.
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Is the MC the equivalent of a child Hollow Knight, or is the final boss only like that due to the corruption?
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>>170571823
Kingdom's Edge Cornifer is actually in a drain pipe on the far left side there. It's stupidly easy to miss. The current Beta Patch giving him noise when relatively close is a huge improvement tho.
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I kinda wish there was a way to add custom markers on the map, like in Curse of Darkness, where you find a point of interest that you can't explore yet because of lack of a specific ability.

Would make backtracking much easier since you'd know what was the part that you missed.
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>>170571975
Basically, yeah. We aren't sure on specifics either, whether they grow slowly over time or get large fairly quickly. All we got to go by is Broken Vessel (or whatever Lost Kin's non-dream form is), all those similarly-sized corpses to MC, and the Hollow Knight.
It's possible Broken Vessel lived for a long time, considering he is a decent bit bigger than the MC, but at the same time, the MC has been alive for a very long time presumably, about as long as the current Vessel and yet is tiny still despite being the same size to start.
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>>170499369
Weird, I never got a 2nd pale ore for beating the 2nd trial.. Did I miss something?
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>>170572569
Maybe it's part of the process of becoming a vessel, and the Broken Vessel is slightly bigger because he went through part of it before breaking.
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>>170571823
I kinda liked the mystery and uncharted-ness of fog canyon. It gave me the correct hunch that there was something else lurking in there.
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>>170571975
It's corruption, look at the mosquitoes in the infected crossroad.
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>>170574118
Look at the Mosquito Kings or whatever they are. No more Infection than their mini counterparts and yes bigger than the ones fully taken by Infection.
Also something curious I noticed. Not every one of those flying biter things gets huge when the Crossroads transforms.
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>>170574253
>Look at the Mosquito Kings or whatever they are. No more Infection than their mini counterparts and yes bigger than the ones fully taken by Infection.
I didn't say there can't be giant mosquitos but the infected monster in the crossroads are obviously the same small ones you were fighting before the infection spread, even the room right of the grub town has the big acid spitting flies replacing the small ones.
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>>170574253
I think not every creature gets fully infected so that you can still fill out your hunter's journal.
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>>170574489
Even so, there's plenty of them in outer areas, like the spot above Greenpath that looks like Crossroads.
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>>170571975
I thought it was due to the corruption at first, but another anon pointed out that the hollow knight statue in the city of tears depicts his adult form. How could the sculptors have known what he looked like after he got corrupted and sealed in the black egg?
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>>170575210
Who knows, nothing tells us he wasn't already changed before they sealed him.
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>>170575828
There is something that mentions how he was exposed to some idea or something prior to being sealed. Something that made him/it/whatever impure. I'm really not sure to be quite honest.
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Is this game Dark Souls 2D?
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>>170576583
No, it's a metroidvania with an atmosphere and narration reminiscent of Dark Souls.
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>>170576583

yes!!
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>>170576583
You're thinking of Salt and Sanctuary. This is a pure Metroidvania. The only thing remotely like DaS is the story and even that's something of a stretch.
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>>170576583
it's nothing like dark souls
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Can someone give me a quick rundown on the flower quest?
Where exactly in Queen's Gardens do you have to take it?
Does riding the tram break the flower?
Would it be possible to cheese the quest by first resting at a bench near the end of the route, walking to the mourner, and then resetting the game to return to the bench?
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>>170577875
The room above the Stag Station
Yes, she specifically mentions this
I don't know. The strategy I used was to kill all the enemies that only respawn when you rest at a bench on the route before staring the quest
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>>170577875
It's the room right above the queen's garden stag station.
And the way to cheese it is to do the whole route backward while clearing every mob without resting at a bench, then pick up the flower and avoid dying to environmental stuff on the way back.
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>>170577875
>>170578668
Wait, I misread that. Taking the tram does NOT break the flower. I was thinking of the Stag.
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what are the questlines i should pay attention to my first run through? i have no idea what i'm doing and i don't wanna fuck too much shit up
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>>170578668
>>170578672

Resetting the game doesn't work.
You appear by the mourner's bench, even if you didn't rest there before resetting.
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>Decide to check what's below the weak floor near where the mining bug is, since i got the ground pound
>Can't hear her singing
>TFW

Why?

I didn't kill her, but is there any way to save her? I hope Map bro doesn't suffer the same fate.
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>>170582183
>is there anyway to save her
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>170582183
She was already going when you met her. She was just making the best of life before it happened.
There's no hope, but Cornifer gets enough air top-side to not mind. He's got a wife to look after yaknow.
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I am like 90% sure if you turn Vsync off the arena becomes harder because all the shit gets released like 3x faster. Can anyone with a good video card and cpu back me up on this?
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>>170579254
It's very hard to screw yourself over in this game. Worst case is you'll miss out on some optional dialogue and lore stuff.
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>>170492507
>Highly recommended to use controller
>Try to use Dualshock 4
>Get random desyncs
>After entering a new room or dashing my character stops suddenly for 2-3 seconds
>Can't remap movement

Help
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>>170584135
That doesn't happen to me. Are you using DS4Windows or the Steam config stuff?
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>>170584573
DS4Windows via Bluetooth
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>>170584714
Yeah it works fine for me buddy. You should be able to remap things via ds4windows. It's not very configurable in the game.
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>>170584812
Are you able to use DPad perfectly?
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>>170584874
It's what I've played the whole game on.
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>>170584714
>wireless controller
There's your problem.
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How do I get "The Hollow Knight" achievement? I beat the Radiance and The Hollow Knight and got achievements for both of those. What did I miss?
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WARNING! IT LOOKS LIKE v 1.0.0.7 MAY HAVE SHIPPED WITH A TROJAN.

Version has been rolled back to 1.0.0.6. I strongly advise running a scan with windows defender and/or malwarebytes. http://steamcommunity.com/app/367520/discussions/0/135511027321782477/
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>>170584874

try wired connection or a different software for inputs like inputmapper.
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>>170585309
You need to beat the hollow knight without getting the void heart
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>>170587004
Figures. I guess I'll do that if I ever speedrun the game.
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>>170585428
Great. First time I might have gotten malware from a steam game. Malwarebytes isn't showing up anything, you think I'm alright?

Bad press like this is exactly what this game didn't need. I hope it doesn't fuck shit up too bad.
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>>170585428
Must be a false positive.
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>False knight fight

I'm currently hoping he saw his family get butchered alive or some shit. I also suddenly don't feel as bad for killing the other two crying for him.
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>>170589123
Actually wait, his current name is now Failed knight, not false knight.
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>>170589123
It should be Failed Champion.
He's the hardest Dream Boss. I wouldn't suggest doing him until you got 10 HP, almost all the Charms, 10 Charm Notches, and all the Nail Arts and Spell Upgrades tbqh.
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Trojan issue been fixed? Saw it updated again when I reloaded steam.
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>>170589953
They rolled back the 1.0.0.7 update until they can figure out what the fuck is triggering the problem.
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>>170589498
I honestly had more problems with the Soul Master or whatever he's called. Failed Champion has pretty easy patterns once you get the hang of it; I was never able to consistently beat the second stage of the wizard dude without just turning it into a DPS race.

I also cheated against Forgotten Kin by using the dung charm, he probably would have been harder than Failed Champion if I tried to do it 'fair' as well.
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>>170595537
It's intended to look like mandibles, but it's actually just horns. See: All the head variants in the Abyss.
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is there a bench closer to the fucking mantis lord fight this run up is fucking infuriating
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>>170595924
The nearest Bench excluding the one you get after beating them is the one a room to the right of them, up, right, down from their chamber.
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Requesting a "What the hell am I reading?" picture featuring Cornifer.
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>>170596007
this one or a different one?
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>>170596183
Yep. That's the one. It's about a 1-minute run to them if you dodge the shit in the way.
You did upgrade your Nail, yes?
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Were can i found full list of creature? I miss two and i do not know who they are and were to find them.
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>>170498928
Its just not the same without the arm wiggling.
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>>170596256
yeah i got them this time i had it upgraded only problem i had is when they threw the scythes low i was too close to dodge it
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>>170596256
>he didn't beat them first try with a broken nail
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>>170596183
>>170595924
Hope you enjoy the bullshit of getting out again.
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>>170597176
played super meat boy the spikes didn't give too much trouble at times the only thing that did were the adult mantis
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>>170597584
>played super meat boy
Get ready to do it again when you get to the White Palace.
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>>170597685
>When you realize you can trivialize ~3/8ths of the White Palace with 2 precision jumps that circumvent a sizable portion of traps
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>>170595537
if that was true his head would be upside down

here's a beetle head in the game
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Oh. So that's how you tell a Mimic from the real deal.
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>>170600509
And what mimic says? I mean dreams of.
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>>170596175
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>>170600956
Nothing. They don't say anything when you Dream Nail them. Even out of jar. Nothing pops up, not even a "..."
>>170601274
Perfect.
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What's the most expensive item in the game? I've got about 3k geo and I don't know if I should be saving for anything expensive or just clearing shops
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>>170601559
3k is just what you need to drop in well. But i wouldn't recommend. You need as much trinket as you can get fast to buy more notches witch makes you stronger.
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>"""Blessing"""
>>170601559
Final Nail Upgrade is like 5K.
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>>170601760
It refills your Soul, but it's also kind of annoying
>>
>you will never fight the true fool
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>>170601945
>you will never fight yourself
What did he mean by this?
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>>170601945
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So I beat the Colosseum trials once but I don't get any notches of rare metals, just geos.

Do I have to keep going through the trials to get the items?
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>>170602557
There's a bug in 1.0.0.5 that doesn't drop the items. Not sure if they'll spawn the second time around if you update either
>>
Why are Hornet and the Protag so cute?
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>>170602683
aww shit what do I do then?
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>>170603119
assuming you didn't do the second trial, update before that so at least you get the ore. But you're screwed out of that notch, haven't heard of people getting it on retries.
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>>170571976
He's always humming and spreading paper across the room though, so unless you skip the room, you can easily find him usually.
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>no mantis lord porn

step it up drawfags
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>>170603904
Please no, this is a pure game
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>>170603947
I'm not one to sexualize cartoon characters but you gotta admit Hornet is pretty cute

even more so than Pearl
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>>170512458
>Gimp
it's shit. use mypaint.
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>>170603315
Too late I've did it.

Shit, guess the only way I can complete the game now is if the devs patches it soon.
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I was exploring crystal peak and I died and I can't be fucked going back there yet to get my shadow. What happens if I just leave it? I just bought the lantern so I'd only be recovering like 100 geo if I went and got it anyway.
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>>170605904
It'll stay there until you die again or finally kill it, basically the exact same as the bloodstain from dark souls. There's a locked house at the far right of dirtmouth that can summon your shade also
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>>170589498
Do you actually end the combat faster by dealing more damage when his head pops out of the armor or are phases scripted?
>>
Is there a New game plus or something?
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>>170606452
There's a permadeath mode when you beat the game.
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I just can't do it my dudes. I'm a shitter.
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>>170606128
>>170605904
Doesn't it limit your Soul meter if you leave it, though?
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>>170606973
Are you having trouble with the disc move? The rest of the fight is just holding a direction or jumping. Even the 2v1 has a rhythm to it. If you find yourself taking hits, equipping the thorn charm to capitalize on it isn't a bad idea.
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>>170606973
every attack can be dodged easily. there is no randomness, only observation.
Just dodge and slap them once, you'll be done in no time.
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>>170607246
I don't have the thorn charm unfortunately. I've only got baldur, spore, and dashmaster.

>>170607279
Yeah I know I just lose my cool in the 2v1 and make dumb mistakes.

Is there a faster way to get to them than coming from this bench and dropping down from above? I notice there's an exit off to the right of the mantis lord chamber which leads to a locked door with a mantis guarding a switch above but I dunno how to get to it or if it'll make returning to the mantis lords any faster.
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>>170607595
>Yeah I know I just lose my cool in the 2v1 and make dumb mistakes.

Alright I had a glass of whiskey to calm my nerves and beat them first try afterwards. Only got hit twice. It really was just random panic fucking me over.
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>>170607595
The door on the right unlocks after beating them.
Did you get the nail upgrade?
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>>170608242
>>170607595
Nice, now go back to that locked door and get the good shit.
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>>170608246
>>170608340

Oh sweet. Three notches is kinda harsh but I imagine the extra range from this new charm will be pretty helpful.

I didn't get the nail upgrade yet. I wandered into the deepnest but then I read these posts and went back to the locked door. I'm going nail hunting now.
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>>170608620
Also it's nice seeing all these faggot mantises bowing to me. Real feeling of progression there.
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*blocks your path*
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>>170608651
>>170608620

Alright well I went to city of tears and upgraded the nail. To be honest I'm retarded and have never used the compass, so I thought the path with the gong that said "we remember the elders" was the path to city of tears and I needed some future item to get there.

In any event I finally went there and feel utterly overpowered now. This shit would have made the mantis lords a breeze. With regards to wanderer's journals and such, are they worth selling to that shifty vendor in city of tears or should I hang onto them?

Also, is this +nail range charm really worth it? It feels like about a ~20% increase in range, which is pretty decent. But I don't feel like it's worth 3 notches when I only have 4. The main benefit seems to be that it makes attacking above me easier. I mean not only does it give me extra reach on my upwards attack, but I feel like the hitbox extension on my default attack is extended upwards as much as it is forwards, which makes diagonally up and forward enemies easier to hit. That's nice and all, but I assume I'll eventually have cumbersome upwards combat remediated by a charm that lets me dash upwards. Did you guys end up using it much?
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>>170610896
No, you should not be using it at 4 notches.
No, there is no upwards dash (there is a double jump though).
No, journals have no other use other than selling.
I ended up using longnail, which is a shorter version of mark of pride, but only takes two slots. Maybe I don't even need it, but i'm used to it at this point.
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Man, bosses really need healthbars that exist.
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So, I'm almost finishing downloading this, any things to keep in mind or tips/tricks in general?
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>>170617632
Try to avoid getting hit.
Try to hit enemies.

Have ~200 dollarydoos with you at all times to buy a map when you meet the cartographer in each area
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where's my prize for beating the colosseum? is the first stage supposed to give me nothing?
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If I don't find the crystal peak map soon I'm going to fucking scream. I've already died like three times in this samey shithole and have had to wander upon my shadow by chance. I can't take this place any more.
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>>170619936
You're not really supposed to do Crystal Peak without the whetstone from the Smith's side quest. It's tricky enough even with the armor-piercing.
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>>170620992
Don't mislead the poor player you faggit. I admit that this is kinda funny, but it's not THAT funny when the playerbase is 3.5 people.
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>>170621486
As the .5 person, laughing at that Anons joke briefly distracted me from the sadness of having lost my legs.
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>>170617632
Embrace and enjoy the initial desperation: you will remember it fondly later on.
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>>170620992
>>170621486
>>170622175
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God dammit, why am I geting FPS problems on a pixelated game?

It wasn't even bad, but the first boss fight is a pain with the game almost freezing whenever the boss makes a big move.
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so i got that flower item that means i can't take any damage until i finish the quest. Where am I supposed to go exactly? it says Queen's Garden but I'm not entirely sure where that is. I think the only way to get to it is via the deepnest but i'd rather not go through there.

Do I need to get passed those black gas wall things? I don't know how to do that
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>>170625080
Don't bother if you haven't discovered the area yet, you cna lose the flower and get it back from the npc as many times as you want.
Also the best way to do the quest is to clear the entire path of monsters beforhand without resting at a bench, then grab the flower and bring it to the place easily.
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>>170625248
thanks. i was worried this was a one-chance thing
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Is there a real bank? I can't hold all this geo, kallala.
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>>170624074
Thanks, Unity engine!
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Who do I give the Old One's Mask to? I thought it would be Bardoon, but he keeps saying that he's not in the mood for gifts. I feel like I've tried every other NPC in the game.
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>>170606973
Have you upgraded your sword and are you using offensive magics?

Also just beat the final boss for the good ending and holy FUCK. That bitch was brutally hard. I only had a small boost of health from the fragile charm and I never found the upgrade for the magic spell that attacks upwards so my damage on Radiance was really limited, but goddamn I made it after 10+ tries. Really good fight too, but goddamn was it brutal without that magic and a big boost of health. Also still confused as fuck to the whole story, is there a solid lore rundown anywhere?
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Anyone know a good place to farm Mosskin? Greenpath has like 3.
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>>170606973

It is actually a pretty easy fight. There are no attacks that are hard to dodge if you are not greedy.

You also can safely heal during the distructo disk attack if you have, twice if you have focus.

You just have to get good at the timings and don't be greedy.
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>>170626538
It is Bardoon, but you have to tickle his tail first. There's a breakable wall south east of him.
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>>170626538
Where do you get the mask from? The Mask maker?
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>>170624074
It's not pixelated. Get a better monitor.
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>>170587338

Are you actually retarded
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Who is this?
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>>170630146
It's one of the last masks in the trading quest.
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>>170495791

>I'm gonna destroy objects during runtime in a game

yeah sure tell me how that works out for you
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>>170632225
Trading quest? I feel I missed an NPC quest here.
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>>170632225

what trading quest
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>>170632454
>>170632482
I don't really want to spoil it because it's a lot of fun to figure it out for yourself, but it starts with giving the flower to someone else.
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>>170632225
>Bardoon
Woah wait.

What quest.

How do I activate it.

And where the fuck is the Weaver's Den?
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>>170632762
Fuck I guess I missed that then. Mourner was put to rest after I put the flower on the grave.

I wonder how much other hidden stuff there is, I hear there is more with Midwife and the Weaver Princess.
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>>170617632
pogging enemies is extremely strong.

You can also pogo off spikes.
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>>170632762
Spill it faggot.

I gifted the flower to Elderbug. Was there anyone else? Then I'm fucked because I have completed the quest already.
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>>170632956

I'm pretty sure people are just memeing each other with that shit, there's no achievement left for any of those supposed hidden quests
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>>170633124
It doesn't surprise me that were would be hidden NPC quests. You get different dialogue in Steel Mode so maybe there are different quests.
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Wtf
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>>170631605
Check the name of the charm you got.
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>>170633776
Not Irma, Orgrim
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>>170633927
Oh, that's the Dung Defender. If you go talk to him, he also comments on the fact you saw Irma.
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is there any hack of cheat engine or whatever that allows me to get a charm notch? to make up for the fact I didn't get one with the coliseum bug
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>>170633471
Where is this?
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>>170634786
In the lift in the House of Pleasure, one of the rooms to the right has two hidden rooms.
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>>170634786
house of pleasure. Up the elevator there's a hidden path right and then another hidden path right.

Guy doesn't challenge or give you anything. Just small amount of dialogue. You can end him with dream nail but there's no reason to.
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No boss fight? Kinda disappointing.
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Should i be vanquishing the ghosts of people i find along the way? I assume i'm putting them to rest with the nail or something.
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>>170635547
Oh, i'm talking about the normal non fight ghosts.
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About 3 hours in, having a blast, but here are some complaints:

-Lack of merchants in general, I've cleared 2 areas already and the only merchant I've found was the map lady in the first city, which only sells things that I'd say should come with the player's inventory to begin with, I have 1700 money thingies and feel I'll lose them at any time

-Too many areas where you go through many tough screens only to find out that you need some item or upgrade to continue, and don't have enough health(since health is such a limited resource in this game) to go back without dying, I'd like an item, even it just a consumable, that allowed you to tp back to your last bench

-the map only updating when you get to a bench, why is this even a thing to begin with?
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>>170636502
Have you not found the other merchant in the first area after the dumb mosquito looking boss? It's a little guy inside of a house.
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You missed another merchant in the first area.
You can tp back to the last bench by reloading your save.
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>>170636876
>>170636502
Yeah, the game's primary merchant doesn't open up until you 'save' him in the first area. Some people end up missing him entirely, somehow.
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>>170636502
Farm weaker enemies for magic and then burn said magic for healing. Also you missed the first big merchant.
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>>170636502
the game tends to give you roughly the right amount of money for whatever you'll soon need to purchase. you'll tap that out when you discover the charm shop soon enough.

as for rooms being difficult, you just end up "dialing in" the means to quickly traverse them after having to backtrack a couple times.

and the map mechanics in the game are what they are. the first time you discover each area, you should feel a sense of exploration and peril until the whole thing is mapped out and becomes familiar. not everyone likes it, but there's a definite rationale behind the decision.
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>Keep walking around blindly on a new area
>Keep hoping i will run into a bench at some point but it takes forever

It's kinda nice that save points are not all over the place, but sometimes it can be quite annoying.
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Real talk, is this possible? I assume you have to crystal dash it but I've tried maybe 10 times now and haven't been able to hit the sweet spot. The other stuff in White Palace was rough but relied mostly on platforming skill and positioning, this one requires you to eyeball your position and then just pray that you got it right.
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>>170636502
>-the map only updating when you get to a bench, why is this even a thing to begin with?

It's a pretty interesting spin on how Metroidvanias handle maps, I dug it.

>>170638172
Look for signs, also boss rooms are generally pretty obvious.
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>>170638270
given your collision size in a crystal dash, this obstacle gives you a pretty fair window to work with. i don't wanna just pop off a "git gud" here, but you should be able to eyeball it. it won't be the last time that's necessary before you wrap up the area.
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what the fuck was his problem?
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Failed champion is not even close to how difficult he's made up to be here. Literally dash when he jumps towards you, hit him, go away, taunt his stomp waves, hit him in between them, taunt his jump towards you and repeat. I've a feeling the other dream bosses are going to be much harder.
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>>170638270
Use the beam in the background to line yourself up on, you'll want your head to be at a set level on it and you'll make it through.
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>>170638617
He's Gorb anon, that's his problem.

ASCEND!
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>>170638484
I've tried from both of the marked locations and the speed you slide down the wall makes it difficult to start charging the dash when you want to. This is by far the narrowest window thus far in the game excepting possibly the section a few screens earlier where you had to inch between three vertically scrolling sawblades, but that section at least let you stand still and wait as long as you wanted.
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>>170638270
Align your eyes with that line that leads into the saws.
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How the hell is the cartographer dude managing to move around so much?

I can understand the warrior who i meet in the gardens, since he can probably hold his own. But the "husband" is big and fat, and from what i read when using the needle on the wife, she was the one who was the adventurer type before, and he is more of a chill dude.
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>>170638617
His brain was so full that he simply had to let it all out.
That killed him.
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This is a joke, right?
Is it worth it?
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All I have left to find is the worm in Deepnest's corpse and God Tamer, I think.
Also, where do I find more of these? Cause they don't spawn anywhere in Basin.
And where's the Deepnest Worm Corpse?
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>>170638617
Gorb is going to be the next playable character so we have to wait for that DLC. The devs said it's going to be an entirely text-based adventure where Gorb acquires all knowledge.
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>The Hunter "Boss" fight jesus christ I almost fell over laughing.
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>>170639564
It's just 2 Charms and a long fall.
You did find Joni's Blessing, right?
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>>170639708
Uh, didnt think of that.

You still need 6 blues, right? I dont have any other charm that can combo with that one.
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IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE
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Does the Hunter's Mark do anything or is it just a mark of completion?

Also I'm at 2506 Essence but I have a full map and I'm not sure I missed any trees, 100% all warriors done as 100% save but I'm missing 100 essence somewhere?
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>>170640107
With jews you lose
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>>170640085
You should also have the first Lifeblood charm. >>170499369

>>170640107
You can find her if you're persistent. She went somewhere comfortable to retire.
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>>170639614
Around the area where you fight the Broken Vessel you can find more of those.


I marked the corpe's location
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>>170640438
Nice, thanks.
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>>170638617
>tfw too intelligent to live inside hallownest
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>>170640157
The non-fight ghosts. All the ghosts in the glade and other spirits chilling out can be converted into dream catcher Valu-points.
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>>170640597
Checked the glade and got everything there.
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>>170639614
You can find lightseed in the Corrupted Crossroads, near the top right. The fossil centipede is at the base of the Deepnest, near the entrance to the sharp shadow chaem room.
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>>170640245
Didnt buy anything from the charm lady, will do now, thanks!
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am I supposed to do anything with these ghosts or is it just for lore?
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>>170641642
Lore. I think it's a backers thing
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>>170641642
Can't you dream nail them for a few minor points?
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>>170642440
yes you can go back, you can pretty much do anything even after resting at black eggs bench. Even after you beat the game it still saves the bench as your position and you can get any other ending.
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>>170641642
It's just lore stuff from kickstarter backers, however at the top right there's a hidden wall leading to one of those spirit tree thingies.

If you're desperate you can also nail all of the spirits but it's not nescessary. The highest amount of essence you need is 2400 and in total there's 2602 in the game.
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>>170642940
Sweet
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so can any1 post a screen with EXACT location of floor in abyss to crush?
trying to get last white fragment and cant find it
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What should my optimum Charm setup be?
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>>170606160
It's scripted, but he'll fall over faster if you have your weapons upgraded.

Also where do I find the upgrade to the upward attacking magic? I think it's in the abyss but I don't know what to do in that room.
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So do we know anything about the Weaver that runs out of the den?
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>>170589123
He just wanted to be strong enough to protect his people anon. He just wanted to give strength to the maggots everyone looked down upon.

If strength can't save you, what can?
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>>170645942
There is a lot of faces that appear to be screaming. What do you have that do the same?
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>>170645859
you just need quick slash
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>>170645705
The floor opens when you have both white fragments.
The fragments are in:
1. The White Lady, guarded by the Traitor Lord in Queen's Garden.
2. White Palace inside the white corpse in Ancient Basin you can't Dream Nail.
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>>170645705
you need both parts then go to the abyss for the final upgrade.
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I can't find herrah's body to dreammail. The map says its right next to the stag, but I've been all over and cant find her.
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>That part is Trial of Fools where the ceiling drops really low and there's still no floor
HOW MUCH MORE BULLSHIT.
>>170654040
Come, have a rest friend. You look tired.
It's at the very top of that chamber.
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I can't beat the Mantis Lords. On my best attempt I hit the guy like 20 times with my nail and he still didn't go down, didn't even get to see the other 2 fight yet.

My biggest problem is the disc attack they do off the wall, is there a way to tell if it's gonna go overhead or below first?

Otherwise I explored pretty much everything that's open to me, unless I'm unaware of something the City Crest or Elegant Key open up.
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>>170654813
>Broken Nail and City Crest
>AND a Pale Ore
Jesus Christ, Anon. There's a use for the City Crest on the far right side of Fungal Wastes just about the Mantis Village. Slot it in and go upgrade your nail, fucking hell.
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>>170655026
I'm sorry, I'm trying to keep it as blind as possible ;_;

I'll go check it out, thanks.
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>>170655110
>about
above*
And I can understand that, but still. To do ALL THAT and miss the path into the City...
I'm sorry in advance, cause the Mantis Lords fight is only 2 stages.
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Is there a void upgrade to the projectile spell? Or just to ground pound and autist shout?
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>>170655558
There's upgrades for all 3, yeah.
I forget if it's the one in Queen's Garden or Crystal Caverns tho.
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>>170655312
Found it. I can't believe I forgot about this place after chasing Hornet here hours ago.
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is the reward for the 3rd colosseum challenge just geo?
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>>170655657
Must be the Queen's Gardens because I've been in the Crystal Cavern so long now they're delivering my mail there. Thank you.
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>>170654813
you can tell at which height they're gonna throw the disc from how high they are on the wall

it took me too long to realize as well
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>>170495791
That explains the high ass RAM requirement and why the game starts suttering after a while.
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>>170654214
I don't know I can't get past it and I want to die too. Its fucking retarded
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>>170663980
Well, I just beat it.
The absolute worst part is right there. Following it is just a few waves of mixed enemies, no ground/wall tricks.
And then the finale.
2430 Geo and a broken hand for my troubles.
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How do I get past the dark shadow fountain gate things?
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>Notice i can bounce off breakable background stuff
>Kill the crystal guardian
>Try to see if i can reach up on the little space to the right by bouncing off the bookshelf
>Manage to, and find another open space
>Crystal guardian II
>Get raped

I guess that'll teach me to try to access areas i'd probably need another skill to reach.
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If I hear the sound of the little worm things crying, does that mean that they're in the screen, or in an adjacent screen?
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>>170668537
Bathe yourself in black.
To do so requires the King's consent and a light from on high deep beneath.
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how do i kill this fucking bitch hornet? i hit her a lot, she staggers twice and she still keeps going.

if a boss has a ton of hp at least show me how much hp piece of shit has.
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>>170668853
They're in the room and not far from you.
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i dont want to have to kill him :c
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>>170659043
anyone?
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>>170669551
the very fact he's there means you missed the chance to actually kill him.
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>>170659043
Yes
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What do I have to do for the other endings? I have only beaten the hollow knight in the black egg. I have all the grubs, missing two charms, got part of the white mask, and the awoken dream nail. Is any of that relevant? Where do I go?
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>>170668035
R u meming me? That's it? Fucking hell this last 1% is going to be my end
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>>170671442
You need the other part and then bring it somewhere.
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How do I get past the King's Door?

I have the dreamnail and I killed the Watcher but still need the other two. No fucking clue where they are. Just running around collecting Essence right now.
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>>170672076
you mean the other part of the mask? Where do I get it? Then where do I go? Do all the other endings rest on having the mask?
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>>170672095
Explore the eastern side of the Kingdom's Edge.

>>170672226
One part is in the Queen's Garden, the other in the White Palace, which you access by using your dream nail on the White Knight Armor in Ancient Basin after upgrading your Dream Nail with 1800 dream shards.
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>>170672557
I already have the awoken nail, forgot about the ancient knight so I'll go there directly. Thanks a lot!
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>>170671494
No, I'm not.
Okay, I just remembered, there is 1 more huge wave of Loodles as well. Not a hard one tho.
>TFW 99% after just 100%ing the Hunter's Journal
>That anticlimactic event
>Now gotta hunt down Mr. Mushroom and end the Age, 2 encounters left
>And also finally go kill Failed Champion
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>>170668545
City of Tears is comfy/10
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>>170673120
>Failed Champion

Fuck I forgot about him. It already hurts
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>>170668669
I came here for this exact reason.

If I have zero soul orbs and only 6 HP, and am accessing this boss by bouncing off the book shelf rather than double jumping, am I here too early? I don't really know where I should be heading but I just beat the mantis lords and bought the lantern.
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>>170675527
There's a bunch of options, really. If you don't have butt-stomp yet, head for Soul Sanctum in the City of Tears.
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HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT THE CHAMP???
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>>170675991
The same way as DS3's Champ.
Skill and understanding.
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>>170675991
>>170676591
Speaking of, who would win in a fight between the Champ and the Failed Champ?
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>>170676591
fuck man

first phase I pretty much has down but its the fucking rocks that chip away at me... It feels like artificial difficulty to be forced to dash to dodge an attack, just to dash into a rock
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>>170676717
Failed, gundyr doesnt have projectiles
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>>170676775
That's almost the exact opposite. Spatial awareness is a tool. Understand how far a Dash takes you with and without walking is a tool.
You have everything you need and his HP pool isn't too large for the fight itself.
Unlike say, Lud and Zallen from Dark Souls 2.
>Comically huge HP pools
>2-shot you and can combo-stomp your face
>When one dies, the other can enrage at 1/3 HP, gaining damage reduction and HP regen
>Only have small windows to actually attack, 1 hit with a big weapon, 2-4 with a small one
This is artificial difficulty at its finest.
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>>170675991
Just get all the nail upgrades and the shadow dash and come back. He should be relatively easy by then.
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How do I get the worms that seem to be stuck in these tree stumps/hollow things?
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>>170677606
nevermind, the worm wasn't there

but there definitely seems to be some hollow tree things with mushrooms that I can't get into
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>Brave one...don't be shy...cold outside...bed is soft...

G-geez, she's lewd.
>>
Any purpose to the fossilized goam?
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>>170679196
It's a journal entry, that's all
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>Sell all my trinkets for ~2000 Geo
>Die in the waterways 2 minutes later
>Can't fight my shade because he's hovering above water
>Lose all the geo I just got two minutes ago

FUCK
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>>170679575
I think you can swim in the water from the waterway. 2000 is not THAT much.

You can also check the house to the right of dirtmouth locked by a simple key and give the one inside an egg to recover your shade through her.
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>>170659043
no it's just geo.
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390x, i5 6600k. huge frame loss when i use the kamahama or fighting the big first boss. How fix? I disabled vsync already and lowered the resolution, no dice.
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>>170669551
he donesnt die. He just cucks you after you finish this.
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>>170679575
shouldve used rancid egg nigga
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>>170679729
Oh it's too late I already tried fighting my shade in the water and died because there's such a delay when you land in the water before you can jump out and attack. I considered going back to Dirtmouth for that purpose but I looked at the map and saw how far away I was from the station and decided to wing it.

2000 feels like a lot right now but I guess it won't be much later on.
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>>170679891
Are you sure it's frame loss? The game purposefully has small 'impact' pauses when you use abilities / parry / get rekt.
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>>170680098
A nice way to get some money early on is to go to the bug that sells you fragile charms and save there. Make your way down, have a fragile greed with you for extra money, and go left, you'll fight another big mushroom who is easy enough to kill. With Greed you get 56 per kill.

Then just exit the screen and come back. Unlike other big enemies, he re spawns when you move a screen away.
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>Second speedrun challenge is to beat the game in under 5 hours

Is that really possible? The game feels gigantic enough.
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>>170680308
No I know those when I see them, it like freezes the game for a few seconds
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>>170680614
any% speedrun record is 48 minutes so yes it is
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>>170680614
Yeah.
That Achievement was actually made easier.
The Speedrun numbers used to be 6 hours and 2 hours respectively.
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>>170680371
Thanks for the tip.

I'm currently getting fucking obliterated in the waterways. I feel way too fragile right now. I just tried fighting the flukemarm or whatever it's called and was utterly overwhelmed.
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>>170680881
Flukemarm is weird in that to do it easily, you gotta bounce on top of it with your Nail, only pausing to bounce on the spawned kin when they fly at you.
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>>170680953
Just tried that, still got wrecked. I couldn't get enough air to avoid the offspring most of the time.

Maybe I should come back when I upgrade my HP.
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>>170681352
I've been exploring pretty thoroughly, I felt. But maybe I should have more notches/HP/soul by now? I haven't really gone exploring since getting the crystal heart yet.
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>>170681841
>Somehow got Slam before Shout spell
>Hasn't visited Salubra once
What the fuck. Get your ass up to the bottom right corner of Crossroads this instant with some Geo.
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>>170681841
Have you not found the charm lady? Go to the place where you found the merchant inside of a little house, then go to the upper right where you hear some laughing.

She sells some nice charms and charm notches which get progressively more expensive, but you also need more charms in order to buy another one.

In particular "long nail" may be nice. It's not THAT much longer, but it's helps quite well.
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>>170682278
>>170681841

Also. You can get another nail upgrade already. Find some spirit graves and get yourself up to 300 essence. The old lady will give you an ore that can let you upgrade the nail agian.
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>>170681352
I just upgraded my nail to kill the buyers in one hit and then just hung out on the bottom taking slashes at her when I could. Double jump is helpful too because if you get knocked off the platform you're not immediately fucked.
>>
How do I access the White Palace? Hitting the Corpse with the dreamnail doesn't do anything. Also, what's the charm exploit people are using with Joni's Blessing?
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>>170682873
you need 1800 essence.

Challenge warrior spirits and find trees.
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>>170682687
>>170682456
>>170682278

Alright thanks for the tips guys. I'm currently kinda lost in the ancient basin after giving up on Flukemarm and wandering around. Running through some gauntlet of enemies like the brooding mawlek. As soon as I find salvation from this hell however I will follow your advice.
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>>170683135
You're really close to a major movement skill. Persevere and you shall be rewarded!
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Is there anything else to do in the Fungal area? These areas I haven't explored yet can't be accessed yet I think(I've tried everything)

Should I try these Mantis Lords? I already got the nail upgrade from the nailsmith.

Also, is there any NPC to rescue in the greenpath? Asking because I almost missed both NPCs in the Fungal Wasteland and the Forgotten Crossroads
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>>170684425
>Greenpath
You gotta save Zote Assuming you don't mind the consequences.
Although it may be too late now...
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mantis lords were cool also fun to draw definitely one of my favorite bosses in a metroidvana game
also i heard there's another merchant at the beginning? where would i find them?
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>>170684605
Zote is the old knight man? I think I saved him

W-What happens?
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>>170683452
That was a fucking awesome boss fight. I died four times but then I switched out my shitty geo gather/compass/soul+ charms for extra reach and won first go. Pretty intense though, there was one moment where our attacks clashed and he entered the stunned state so I took no damage from the attack trade. Looked pretty badass even if it was unintentional
>>
>>170684963
Yeah.
You gotta save him once more and then defeat him in gladiatorial combat. And when all is said and done, he steals your fangirl.
>>170684985
>Pretty intense
:^) You know nothing yet, little spirit.
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>>170684848
The Mantis Lords are actually all female, funnily enough.
As for Merchant, Sly the Fly can be found in a hut in the bottom right area of Crossroads and Salubra can be found in her hut on a high platform in the same room, you can hear her chuckling constantly.
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>>170685215
>:^) You know nothing yet, little spirit.

W-well, soul master was still more intense. I dunno how it can go up from there though because I already felt like a korean starcraft player fighting soul mater.
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>>170685418
>mater

Not sure if better or worse.
>>
>>170685418
>master
The Tyrant, the Kin, and the Champion shall put you in your place.
>>170685489
Kek.
>Gender-bender mode for all of Hollow Knight's cast, like the upcoming Shovel Knight update
>>
>>170685554
I actually haven't played shovel knight. If hollow knight is my GOTY thus far should I give shovel knight a go?
>>
>>170685619
Shovel Knight is more akin to a Mega Man/other Classic Platformer than a Metroidvania, but it's still fucking awesome.
And if you buy before some date coming up, you get all the content for free before the price hike and content split.
>>
>>170685696
Eh, I'll give it a go. I wasted $80 AUD on Breath of the Waiting (for anything fun to happen), so worst case scenario shovel knight can't be a worse deal than that.
>>
what do I do with the Kingsoul?
>>
>>170685963
kill yourself
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>>170685963
Go to the Birthplace beneath a place that is quite Old.
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What was the point of this room?
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>>170686096
>He doesn't have the Dream Nail yet
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>>170685323
sweet i'll keep an eye out for him also i knew they sounded female
>>
im sitting on the last entry of the hunter journal

wheres the collector. I've seen his name around a few times but i cant fucking find him
>>
>>170686808
To reach the Collector, two things must be done:
1. Get the Key of Love from Queen's Garden, lower right.
2. Find the Door of Love in the Tower of Love, the entrance is on the far left edge of Kingdom's Edge, shortcut if through the Flooded Stagway in King's Station.
>>
>>170686906
>all of these places i forgot about when i passed them by without upgrades
thank you anon
>>
>>170687321
No problem. The reward for filling the Journal is well worth the suffering.
>>
Ah shit, the key that the merchant sells you is a one use thing? I wanted to see what the area to the right of the city was...
>>
>>170687887
There's only 3 Simple Locks in the game, don't fret.
There's only 3 Simple Keys too and the worst use of any of them is the door at the far end of town.
>>
>>170676717
>who would win in a fight between a 12-foot tall man and a somewhat larger than average bug
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>>170690180
>>
>>170676717
>Implying they wouldn't be bros, Failed facing off against the Hollow Knight atop Gundyr's helm while he faces off against the Unkindled One
>>
>>170687378
speaking of journal, where to i find Mawlurks
>>
>>170690502
The legless ones are in the Basin Crevice leading to double jump.
The tiny ones with legs can be found in Trial of the Fool and in the left path from Tram platform in Basic.
>>
>>170690592
>Basic
Basin*
>>
>finally beat the mantis trio
>it just gives me access to a new area, not an actual reward

REEEE
>>
>>170690914
The reward is off to the right and up a few floors. Had you entered before beating them, the Mantis at the Switch would lock the door on you.
>>
>>170690989
I found it lul, nvm
>>
if you get hurt with the delicate flower are you fucked for 100%?
>>
>>170691465
Nope. She has a unique dialogue when you go back to her after losing it. It's not a huge deal. Don't forget to give one to Elderbug before making the finishing trip.
>>
>>170691567
where was he again?
>>
>>170691850
It's that dude in town who just stands there by the bench.
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>>170691894
that was surprisingly sweet
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how do i get the queen's station mask shard i've been wondering how the fuck to get it forever
>>
>>170692294
I literally had the same issue but you're gonna hate it when you find out
Literally just bottom right of the station theres a short jumping puzzle with spikes
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>>170692410
HAHA I'M FUCKING RETARDED
>>
>>170693119
haha same
>>
>>170680953
>>170680881
The thorn charm makes that fight trivial.
>>
Bosses are pathetic easy compared to these retarded platform parts where you're supposed to pogo off these mobs

Seriously, the down attack controls are fucking awful
>>
>zote stole my waifu

i am never going to save you again
>>
so for the flower thing, I'm just not allowed to take a single point of damage?
>>
>>170694103
eeeyup...
>>
What's in the Stone Sanctuary? Just a Mask Piece?
>>
>>170694657
And a Warrior Spirit.
>>
How can I make grubs show up on the map?
>>
Is there anything special to do at the Stag's Nest? Anything with that cracked open egg perhaps?
>>
>>170695473
Beat the Collector.
>>170695504
Nope.
>>
When am I supposed to go to the Fog Canyon? I only managed to get a spell there, couldn't find the map guy and most of the area was closed by dark walls
>>
>finally get down to the abyss
>o shit this is gonna be insane
>it's fucking n o t h i n g
>>
>>170696324
It's still really disturbing even if it only has 2 key items, a spell upgrade, and a Charm.
Also has a ton of cool Skulls.
>>
any point to the side room in the Fools Colosseum that looks abyssy?
>>
>>170696550
Yeah. That's where your Shade shows up.
>>
Where do you get the waterproof upgrade?
>>
I've gotten the kingsoul
what now? I've acquired all charms/upgrades/grubs but I'm still stuck at 97%

I'm assuming some of that % is from dream essence, I'm sitting at 2236 but have NO idea where to get the rest to hit 2400 - help? I've killed all warrior spirits and I'm almost certain I've gotten all of the trees, but I have to be missing like one tree or something

I've also done all 3 of those boss fight reduxes that give you essence
>>
>>170696678
Izma's Tear can be found in the Grove of the same name in the Royal Waterways. But you need to drain the Acid Pools to get to it, which requires you to defeat the Guardian of Shit.
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>>170696621
oh
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>>170696738
>what now?
Unite the Void.
Visit the Place of Birth.
He was born in the Grave of his Kind.
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>>170696738
THE ABYSS BEACONS YOU BACK have it equipped though
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Where are the mimic grubs?
I found 1 at crystal caves i think, and 3 in deepnest (3 in one room). I need one more for the journal, where is the little bitch at?
>>
>>170697907
fight in the Colosseum, second fight i believe
>>
what was the radiance exactly?
>>
Is it possible to Dream Nail the Radiance?
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THIS IS FUCKING HORSESHIT

any tips for beating this aerial section? I havent had issue with the rest of the Colosseum at all
>>
Is the last % for 100% completion filling out the whole journal?

I've been stuck at 99 for a long while
>>
>>170635292
How do you get into the hive?
I've only gotten to the left side that of it and cant get into the main part
>>
>>170701797
Get the combo Defender crest adn the one that makes you birth flies at the cost of soul
it'll help you out a shit load
>>
>>170701949
No, i got 100% and my journal not finished, missing two creature and i don't know who they are.
>>
>>170702531
You got the collector and the beautiful grub?
>>
>>170704239
Collector yes, but whats beautiful grub?
>>
How do i get the second white fragment?

Been to the spot with the white knight but cant interact with it at all
>>
>>170705847
You need to use the awakened dream nail on it.
>>
>>170704667
Think he might mean the gorgeous husk, big gold bug in the city
>>
>>170706223
Thanks found him, he was hidden well but i herd there someone.
>>
do I get anything other than their respect for defeating the mantis lords? and I can't get to that fucking mask shard just past them
>>
Just did the second Colosseum trial and it didnt give me a fucking pale ore

Fuck this stupid shitty colosseum
>>
new thread when
>>
>>170708026
You get pass to deepnest, and you can get mark of pride in the top right of the room. To get the shard you need to go from the top.
>>
>>170708026
You get access to the deepnest on the left. There's also a room on the right, somewhere above the boss room that has some treasure
>>
>>170708765
>>170708781
>right
damn, I must have not explored very thoroughly since I missed that entirely, but I guess it did give me another path through deepnest - I'd already explored it pretty thoroughly before fighting them
>>
Nu-thread
>>170708842
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>>170708310
Are you pirate? Deserved.
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>>170709345
No?
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