/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #480

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All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of things, shall be well.

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>>170477748
When shall we three meet again - in thunder, lightning, or in rain?

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Max is #1

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It's okay to cry, guys.

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>>170477859
In all three - in thunder, lightning, and in rain.

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>>170477373
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

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BFFs, Pirates, Wonder Twins, Partners in Time & Crime & Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

>>170476525
I picked Bae when EP 5 came out and I will never change my mind.

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>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

>>170478806
Everyone has right to their opinions anon be it bay or bae

SEASON 2 WHEN? I WANT IT NOW REEEEEE!!!!!

>>170479392
What are dontnod even doingggggg~

>>170479730
Making Vampyr

>>170476525
Would you sacrifice a person that you love and care about (your best friend, your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend, your son/daughter, your father/mother) for an unknown quantity of people?

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>>Twister, the game that really ties you up in knots

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>>170480124
But I want to see Mommy in Season 2.

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>>170480187
What you're asking is basically just the trolley problem. So yes, given the context.

>>170481198
>trolley problem

This game has nothing to do with the trolley problem.

>>170481668
4chan has nothing to do the trolley problem.

>>170480187
never

>>170482209
to be honest i'd sacrifice /v/ for Chloe without a second thought

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>>170481005
Your mother is rotting in the ground. Her soulless body bereft of holiness. Someday you too will join her.

Until then...cuddles! Oh, you're so soft, soulless one. I want to hug you and feed you carrots all day. I hope that lesbian whore didn't stuff her carrots in the blue haired dyke's vagine before she fed them to you. A wanton desire for flesh will lead sinners to commit many depravities, even on an unhuman as cute as you.

>>170483435
Hell, I would even sacrifice my whole town for my cat.

>>170483310
Rachel was is to Chloe, as Max is to Warren. She only saw Chloe as a friend, but Price treated her as a girlfriend. Although they weren't together, Chloe was upset when she discovered Rachel had been dating Frank. She wasn't entitled to her love anymore than Warren was entitled to Max's.

>>170483664
Cats are mean and unloving tho...

>>170483435
I'd sacrifice /v/ for a ham sandwich, and I'm a vegetarian. That means that sandwich is going to a homeless person or a stray dog.

>>170483859
My cat means to me more than any person on this shit town.

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>>170483435
I ain't ever even meet Chloe, but hell yeah I'd do dat shit

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>>170483580
Leave now imposter. And don't you dare talk that way about Aunt Max and Chloe.

Would Kate sacrifice Arcadia Bay for Alice?

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>>170485495
I'd never want her to be in that situation. But if Arcadia Bay was really in danger then....I would never blame her for her decision.

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>>170485495
>The young children of Arcadia Bay are starving after the tornado.
>Kate has to manually slaughter Alice, butcher and cook her, otherwise the children will die of starvation before they can be rescued.
What a beautiful tragedy!

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>>170484593
My lovely Alice doesn't have horns or sharp teeth. Either you're an imposter of the sapphic storm summoners sullied my pet with a slew of Satanic syllables, cursing her cuteness with the magic of their cunt craving cabal.

NOOOOOOO! MY POOR ALICE! I WILL SAVE YOU!!!!!!

>>170483813
Rachel actually told Chloe that they weren't dating though, so she was also upset that Rachel lied to her. I think Rachel kind of led Chloe on and never outright told her she wasn't interested because she didn't want to hurt her, which is understandable but probably even more hurtful.

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>>170486412
>sapphic storm summoners
Yum.

>>170486569
The same as Max did to Warren.

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>>170486632
>Rachel kind of led Chloe on and never outright told her she wasn't interested because she didn't want to hurt her, which is understandable but probably even more hurtful.

I forgot to quote this in my last post.

Please accept my Pricefield as an apology.

>>170486103
Nobody's ever going to be in that position ever again, because Max and Chloe beat the bullies!

They found a way to save everyone and make everything right, and you just have to worry about how many of your friends you can play with in a day.

If they won't make a season 2 of life is strange we must crowdfund a fanmade one!

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>>170486995
>you just have to worry about how many of your friends you can play with in a day
>how many of your friends you can sacrifice in a day

I co-directed that for you.

>>170487058
If they'll sell us the rights, we could raise the money on Kickstarter/IndieGoGo to create a DLC with a better ending for Season One.

>>170487058
I'm 100% sure that they will make a sequel but we won't see Max, Chloe or Arcadia Bay ever again.

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>>170487204
>we won't see Max, Chloe or Arcadia Bay ever again
Don't be so sure. Season 2 will be a financial disappointment; and due to overwhelming fan demand they'll bring back our girls for Season 3.

>>170487058
Season 2 is gonna happen for sure.

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NewTori.

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>>170428285
>do let me know
Wong Kar-Wai's Fallen Angles and Chungking Express. Denis Villeneuve's Arrival. Satoshi Kon's Tokyo Godfathers, Charlie Kaufman's Anomalisa. There's more but give any of those watch if you haven't.

>>170435268
>LiS isn't really transcendent because it is 'mere mimesis'
Is this friend of yours that one guy everyone would hate if they weren't his friend? Because I have to agree with him. To my eyes LiS is very much the artists bed, not the carpenters. It's a rather douchey stance to take because despite sounding definitive it's still pretty vague, so I can see how it would be difficult to argue against. But to say in any capacity that Video Games' specific purview *is* mimesis is a far more reductive stance than me and your friend are taking. Look at any game from Kitty Horrorshow, one of their games is specifically designed to crash frequently as to be unplayable. Who's to say gods bed wasn't broken?

However I don't think video games will ever have an equivalent of 'Talkies', games and film are far too different. I would argue that Tetris is mechanical perfection, I wouldn't argue that anything pre-1920 was cinematic perfection.

>>170488336
Based QTori.

>>170488336
>>170488336
Max's modest pink pants are so lewd ffs

>>170488556
I've seen the Kar-Wai movies and Arrival.

They're great, character-centric narrative experiences, don't get me wrong, I was only saying LiS is unique, and it does things I've (and many people from what they say) never experienced quite like that with any story, in any medium. And I was defending it against the dumbing down of its "storytelling" to the indeed not very inspiring or innovative plot.

Will check the other two films. Since they aren't live-action, they could come closer. Anime has always had more of a dreamy feeling for me.

>>170489996
>and it does things I've (and many people from what they say) never experienced quite like that with any story
Birds and chatter?

>Anime has always had more of a dreamy feeling for me.
I never saw LiS as particularly dreamlike, not even polarized. A Single Man always struck me as what LiS would look like were it more so. A few yellowy-golden color schemes and lingering shots does a lot in that regard.

>page 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd1Fx9IuMco

Best scene in episode 5 IMO

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>>170495308
Best couple in episode five

>pic related

>>170480187
It would REALLY depend on the context, yo. Do people know I am making the choice or are they in the dark?
Family members? Am I dependent on them to survive? If so then I choose them over the town. If not town over them.
My friend I've had for a good four years now? I choose him every time all the time and let the entire town die without a second thought.
My girlfriend? I'd save her over the town. She's the only one I'm getting and my only way to get sex.

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>>170495308
How a school teacher can afford to drive a nice expensive car? Jefferson's car looks like is based on a Rolls Royce Phantom, Bentley Mulsanne and the Flying Spur.
Also, it was Ryan who taught Max how to drive? Does she have a driver's license?

>>170497302
He's not just a school teacher, he's also a fairly well known photographer.

>>170497302
Prestigious high schools pay their teachers high amounts, not just by education standards.

>>170497302
>suicide doors

Disgusting.

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>>170498271
Perfect for a young teen to fly from when a high powered SUV blows their car away.

Ooooh....It's true art.

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>>170497302
It was heavily inspired on a Bentley Flying Spur.
Max is old enough to take the driving test I guess.

>>170498451
Fuck off Michel

>>170488336
Cute

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So in webm related Chloe invites Max to go with her while she "takes a dump", and multiple other points in the game, Max uses the term "Eat Shit."

I'm a little concerned about Max and Chloe's future activities to be honest. Sounds like they might be up to something highly unsanitary.

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>>170502208
Scat anon? Is that you?

>>170502208
I'm sure it must be a perfectly normal ritual for girls in Oregon to take dumps together.

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>>170502573
No, but I think we can all remember and enjoy scatstorywriter's classics :)

https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7131922/ScatStoryWriter

>>170502707
But they're in the Price household, not a school with multiple toilet cubicles. So is Max going to just stand there watching while Chloe takes a shit, or are they going to somehow straddle each other so they can fit both their asses on the one toilet at the same time?

>>170504730
I don't know. You'd have to ask a girl from Oregon about their version of bathroom etiquette.

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>>170491884
>Birds and chatter?
...Among other things. If the movies you listed felt like LiS to you, we've experienced it rather differently.

One thing I've repeated a lot in this context is the close, personal, distinct and authentic feeling of its world and its characters. I've never felt so connected to any set of characters. It's the first time in my life of having read hundreds of books and seen hundreds of films that I went and read fanfiction, looked at fanart, talked with fans, rather than simply go to more works of the same author or director, or interviews and biographies and such. It's made me feel at home in its world and care about characters in it in a way no great author or director has. On a very immediate, human level. Most other characters I've always understood as works of art, psychology or philosophy and appreciated the artist, psychologist or philospher behind them first and foremost.

If you have other works of fiction that do that for you, LiS might indeed not be very unique to you, at least not in that regard. But for a lot of people I've read the opinions of, they had also never connected and cared in quite such a way.

>dreamlike
The visuals are dreamlike to me. More so than most of the live-action I've seen. If I see a set, I understand and grasp it; I can look at LiS' environments endlessly and still feel there's something about them I can't quite put my finger on, something inviting, intriguing, homely.

LiS feels especially in retrospect more like something I've experienced like I would a dream. It has that personal relation, a close concern, and that also has to do with the stylized yet soft and painterly visuals that were, like parts of the narrative and characters, designed with the idea in mind to allow to project one's own images and associations and interpretations onto. A natural volatility and ambiguity. As that, it's sometimes like a memory of something I've actually experienced myself, but haven't really - i. e., a dream.

>>170505106
>tfw I've been to oregon, and no one invited me to shit together with them

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>>170502208
BBBRRRRRAAAAAPPPPPTTTTT

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>>170488336
I see your new Qtori and raise you a new Kunaike

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>>170507405
These girls sleep so much!

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>>170508272
And I too little.

Time for a nap.

>>170486381
That's really uncomfortable picture, anon

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SEASON 2 ANNOUNCEMENT FUCKING WHEN???

>>170509873
After Vampyr comes out.

>>170510783
When is that anyways?

>>170509873
Early/Mid 2018.

>>170510928
Q4 2017.

>Page 10 again

DON'T DIE ON ME NOW /lisg/

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Everyone's asleep...

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>>170513752
...now to gas these helpless animals. For the owner's sake of course. They need to see everything they care about dead to grow up.

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>>170513752
>>170515070
>TWANG
>"YYAAAAAHHHH!" a voice cried out
>A little bunny stirs inside the burrow
>"What was that?" she asks
>Kate simply smiles at the success of her safety measures
>"Nothing Lynn. Go back to sleep."
>And they all snoozed in peace and comfort, safe from the cruelty of a particularly nasty Frenchman

Max is for_____

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>>170516878
Having tea with

>>170516878
Kissing/hugging/cuddling/comforting

Choose any you wish

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>>170516878
Cuddling!

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>>170516878
Corrupting.

>that scene where max goes back in time to monday and tells off victoria for acting like a bitch

Probably my favorite scene in the entire game.

Angry Max scares me.

>>170518859
>All the best moments from ep 5 were wiped from history

>>170518942
They still exist in your and Max's memories.

>>170488556
>Denis Villeneuve's Arrival
The recent alien movie? Wut?

>>170519082
Doesn't matter. They're gone, and all the good they provided others is gone too.

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>>170518859
>Kate saved
>Victoria had a reality check
>Chloe applying to college
>Jefferson arrested
>Chloe and David reconciled
>Max and Chloe reconnect on good terms
>Max wins the contest
Here comes a Michel to light you to bed

>>170520242
Why does Max always feel the need to outright throw away timelines that don't work, instead of fine-tuning them?

>Chloe in car accident? Chuck the whole timeline away and abandon any hope of keeping William alive (really morally dubious btw), instead of just warning young Chloe about the crash or doing literally anything to perturb the timeline and letting CHAOS THEORY solve the problem for her.

>Chloe, for inexplicable reasons decides to go down to the beach and get sucked up by the tornado instead of driving out of town? Chuck the whole timeline away instead of just travelling back and making Chloe take it seriously

Honestly, girl needs to take a breath just think things through instead of acting so impulsively.

>>170520913
This was one of the most bothersome 'plot holes' to me.
Obviously the plot demanded otherwise, but if any real person was in that situation they would try at least a dozen timeline fixes before they considered themselves having scratched the surface.

>>170521664
In a perfect world, Ep 5 would have allowed you to use any photo you took throughout the rest of the game to try to fix things in that moment. Would have been an interesting twist to have the little bonus activity that just seemed like achievement hunting turn out to be crucial to your success.
Say, if you played through the entire game without taking an optional photo, your troubleshooting would be limited to just the opening selfie and the bed selfie.

>>170517556
For art.

>>170522482
I'm not sure to what extent you were involved with the last thread, if it all, so help me get on the same page for what is being discussed here --
LiS ideally should be viewed as neither enjoyable nor significant?
Enjoyable, but not significant?
Enjoyable and significant, but not broaching 'art' in any meaningful way?

I don't know what category the friend I was arguing with would fall under, since he still considered LiS one of his favorite games of all time. I guess his opinion of games in general was simply in the gutter, which doesn't seem to be the case for you.

>>170522616
highlighting text then control+s is usually less prone to that than manually typing

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>>170523491
How was my post not related to all of that?

I would fall into the enjoyable but not significant camp if that matters. I like LiS but I think Arrival comes closer to gods bed.

>>170523674
I meant to write "spoilers for Arrival" above my post because a lot of people read spoiler text anyway sometimes if you don't.

>>170519736

Nah, they're just timelines of alternate Maxines.

Who have to deal with the fallout of Max Prime's decisions.

Boy I'd hate to see what happens to William's alive and Max just euthanized her best friend.

For all we know, San Francisco Everyday hero Max returned and Chloe was fine, if a little shook up by the ordeal.

Another Max is in a diner as the Tornado approaches... with goddamn Warren G and Chloe got a cap in her ass the night before.

etc...

>Not romancing the boy
>Not letting le edgy blue hair girl die

It's like you are really a degenerate.

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>>170526562
>wanting to romance warryn
ew.

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>>170526562
>Identifying with Warryn
kek

>>170515497
Kate is a good sister. Lynn and the other sister are very lucky.

>>170524672
>How was my post not related to all of that?
Don't know what you mean by this.

>I like LiS but I think Arrival comes closer to gods bed.
Here I suspect we find the crux of the divergence, because I would never think of LiS alongside something like Arrival in the first place.
Passing no judgment on quality, but just as examples, I would look to Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Boyhood, Juno, Donnie Darko, Blue Velvet, etc. - works with a twee/indie aesthetic or based around evoking a certain nostalgia and milieu. Darko has all the time travel stuff but that's incidental to the '90s Americana' aspect I'm appealing to.
In essence, the thematic treatment of time travel just wasn't much of a concern for me. Ep 5 was a head-shaking series of missed opportunities for creating some actual 'literary' unity to it all (I'm thinking now of Finnegans Wake, and how the first sentence is the final half of the last sentence), but I more or less shrugged off that particular failure as I felt the treatment of atmosphere and relationships was central. Basically what >>170505130 said.

When I first played through, I recall praising the game for its feel *in spite of* the supernatural time elements rather than because of them.

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>>170526562
>implying warryn is a ''romanceable'' option

https://twitter.com/DONTNOD_Ent/status/839772879638118400
>We hope you'll like Vampyr when it's released :) No news about the future of Life Is Strange for now.

What I find interesting is that when people ask them on twitter about Season 2 they always give answers like this.

>>170531204
>No news about the future of Life Is Strange for now
>about the future
>future

Fast-forwarding time powers confirmed

screencap this boiz

>>170495308
>Truss Limpbow

Is that a reference to Rush Limbaugh?

>>170530451
Just as valid an option as Chloe.

>>170533709
Nope, she only sees him as a friend regardless of player's choice.

>>170533709
Max doesn't reciprocate Warren's feelings. It goes against her character

>>170531280
That's not very... interesting power. Honestly, for what else could you use it than getting over boring parts of your day?

>>170534498
Did Max and Evil Max get lezzy?

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>>170536069
Yeah.

>>170536564
Lewd

>>170534942
How about an oracle power?

See glimpses of someone's future, then try and change it in the present? Decisions could be based around making a positive or negative change, or leaving their fate be

>>170538497
That sounds really interesting!

>>170533976
>>170534350
It's sickening, to see the beautiful, meaningful, narratively rich relationship between Max and Chloe ignored, and see players pursue a fucking insignificant, one dimensional joke character.

How anyone can like this game while ignoring the whole point, Max and Chloe. I can't believe it. I just can't believe it.

>>170486128
You made me cry, anon.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/09/video-game-voice-actor-ashly-birch-horizon-hey-ash/

New interview with Ashly if anyone cares to read. Not much info related to LiS as it focuses mostly on Horizon.

>>170540697
New HAWP videos, too.

Hilarious material.

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My precious /lisg/, I can finally return to you!
Glad to see the cuteposting, sad to see the shitposting (But they won't win!)

Also, Chloe's birthday is in two days, on the 11th, so get hype for that!

>>170542370
Welcome back.

>>170488336
That is hella cute!
Max is like a little koala.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ijEkH_sVE

>>170539268
I miss this artist :( I had a bunch of her stuff saved
But as the old one go away the new ones come in so there's always fresh stuff

>>170544737
Do you have any left, or is it gone? I wouldn't mind seeing more, it's cute

>>170544737
Speaking of saving stuff for posterity, does anyone here have a copy of the fan-arranged soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLp3-KQ922RELlU_q8bmxEMtweK_b8jo0j

The creator used to have a direct download link but now it's gone, and I live in fear that the vids will be taken down. Would be a real tragedy since it's by far the most comprehensive version.

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>>170545007
Oodles.
http://chloe-fuckin-price.tumblr.com/tagged/pricefield

>>170545323
I don't have that link.

Max is talented!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPXYd-8Hqwg&index=38&list=PLp3-KQ922RELlU_q8bmxEMtweK_b8jo0j

>>170547071
Renaissance woman

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>>170547480
I know she doesn't like it now, but Maxine is a fitting name for her.
The greatest (And cutest)
I think she'll use her full name as she gets older. But most people will still just call her Max. Maxine Price

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>>170522482
>that you liked the game
No, it's me pointing to one thing I consider unique and significant about LiS.

Sure, I could go more into exactly why and how it manages to do something a hundred and more other works of fiction didn't for me, and go into altogether more aspects of it I consider unique and significant... but I didn't think your condescending question warranted much of such a response.

>more designed
Not sure how this would take away from whether the environments are intriguing. Again, dontnod did specifically design LiS' visuals with the projection of the audience in mind, aimed for that allusive effect. Design is precisely what allows to create environments for a particular effect. Sets are designed as well, the best directors often praised for not leaving anything to circumstance... and in virtual media, you can even design the assets, control the weather precisely, and so on.

>>170521664
>>170521860
Dontnod wanted to convey precisely the message that we cannot make things perfect, but that there will always be something we don't like in life, and that we have to accept and live with it. Take the bad with the good, live life. That as a statement on life, not as an exploration on whether time travel could make life better. So while I agree that there should have been more of a striving towards perfection from Max if they wanted to more properly communicate this idea that we cannot achieve it (as is, she uses them very responsibly and from her heart, not a place of wanting to make everything how she sees perfect), their message would stay the same: it wouldn't work.

And I think not only for the coming-of-age narrative, her often more emotionally and intuitionally compelled use of the powers works better than a calculated and calculating use would. Because it is not about the powers, but her, her relation to them and hers to her world, with them.

>>170542370
Welcome back precious anon!

The Chloritto awaited your arrival.

>>170548889
Oh, *Chlorrito.

>>170522482
>LiS fails to tie its core mechanics to the overarching narrative
I don't think so. LiS is a coming-of-age story in which the powers are used to develop a character and its arc. They help her build confidence and to get involved in her world, but they also represent a literal second-guessing and doubting of herself (or a denial and regret, if you will), and as such were meant to be overcome by her, that she grows to realize not to use the powers (anymore), that she is who she is without them and can be proud of that - which she does in both endings in a way, accepting not to use them and an accepting of herself in it (in one decidedly more narratively sensibly). It's also a love story (friendship love and romantical love), and within that context, the powers serve as a metaphorical manifestation of the powerfulness and meaningfulness of their bond, of human bonds altogether, the power of love if you will, and establish a literal time-transcending and death-defying bond, i. e. a timeless and immortal love. Something a lot of stories aim to symbolize, and LiS manages to materialize. Then it's also a human story, concerned with life and the human in it - the "human condition". In that, the powers can be taken to represent a fight against the uncaring cruelty of the cosmos, a fight that we find ourselves in everyday, to an extent or another. Fighting against it for what we care about and believe in, and as this time and space controlling thing, her powers represent a very literal fight against the cosmos, that ends in what I take to be either triumph or defeat.

In those respects (and more subtle ones, like the theme of nostalgia), the powers do play into the - above all character-centric - narrative meaningfully.

>>170548387
I unironically would name a daughter Maxine if I had one. There's something cool to me about the 'kseen' sound.
I love when alt-Victoria says "Hello, are you even listening Maxine?". Somehow William not dying switched her name preference.

If you really think about it, it is somewhat bizarre how much William being alive affected Max's personality when in both timelines she moved to a completely different state that same year. I guess it goes to show how important Chloe was to her life already if the status of her family member could fundamentally change Max's life from hundreds of miles away.

>>170548889
That's the biggest problem with the finale. The whole game the powers take a backseat to the personal relationships and character growth. Which is fine...until the final, and biggest, choice is forcing the player to base everything on Max's power.
Pinning it all on one of the weakest and most underdeveloped aspects of the entire game.

At the end of it (and long before even Episode 4 was out) I decided that if it came down to it, Max was saving Chloe over the town.
It just so happened that that was the case, but with the added bonus that there was tons of vague ideas and open-endedness so at the end of it all it's not even 100% certain Max caused the storm or that the storm was even all that bad.

In their attempt to make a "deep" or "tragic" choice, Dontnod shot itself in the foot by over-extending themselves. A Bae vs Hospital ending would have been a much better and balanced choice.
Bae vs Bay is just retarded in its premise, and entirely one-sided when you evaluate Max's actions and words throughout the game.

>>170549508
I do however agree that Arrival does so more effectfully. The director is very aware of the function of time and its effect on film and audience, and uses precisely that effect narratively and cinematically as theme, device and meaning. The narrative quality of its time is more intelligently crafted and directed, more aware of itself... but LiS does not lack meaning in this regard, the prime intention that the devs undoubtedly were aware of being its coming-of-age quality, the idea that Max is to overcome her powers and accept and embrace her decisions and herself for them, instead of second-guessing herself and beating herself up over not making perfect decisions - because those don't exist, and to instead learn from decisions, decisions that we make ourselves, because we feel they're right, not because we can know the outcome, time powers or not.

Either way, this does not mean Arrival can be compared to LiS. For me, the experiences were completely different, and just because Arrival has a better grasp on and more carefully directed effect of its time workings, does not make LiS any less unique or significant as what it is. My original argument pertained to the idea that LiS could translate into another medium, and would then fail because of its storytelling not meeting some standard. Apart from that standard not really existing, I established that storytelling is much more than plot, that everything that makes a scene is too (which you apparently took as me saying LiS is unique in creating scenes... it's unique in how the scenes look and feel, how they are crafted), and that it achieved much more as a video game and could not simply translate onto the TV screen or book pages - could not translate at all. It occupies a unique and significant standing in the world of fiction as what it is, and for many people, it stands in some respect as wholly unique and single-most significant work of fiction. Such as in their relation to its characters.

>>170549989
The Alternate Timeline was all about Max having more confidence in herself. Perhaps too much.
She's not some quiet geek that stands up to bullies. To an extent she's become conceited and a bully herself.
She's a part of the Vortex Club, the group responsible for bullying Kate (Where was she in that timeline? I think we all know the answer but don't want to say it).

In the original timeline, William dies and it hurts Max. Obviously not as much as Chloe, but the loss still effects her. As does having to leave Chloe behind.
Max loses her confidence and thinks Chloe will be angry at her for leaving, after enough time passed she was scared to call. Chloe had her own reasons for not contacting Max.
In the alternate timeline, William lives and Max leaves for Seattle under much better conditions. She even keeps in contact with Chloe, though Max herself says it was kind of insensitive to send letters. This confidence allows her to be more assertive and climb the social ladder to the top.

Overall I just wanted to leave the timeline as soon as I saw it. I couldn't handle seeing Max not like who she was or seeing Chloe unable to be who she is. Plus William and Joyce suffering.
I was more than happy to leave that timeline behind and see Max pounce her Chloe.

>>170548889
>>170549508
I wonder why anon deleted a bunch of their posts... this was one of the best discussions I've seen here in a while

>>170550827
Maybe they got removed or b&
Mods were cracking down for even one post

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>>170550807
>I was more than happy to leave that timeline behind and see Max pounce her Chloe.
This is the emotional highlight of LiS for me, after maybe the original post-pool morning scene.
You are coming from some of the worst stomach-punches the game pulls - William walking out the door for the last time, and the agonizing request Chloe has (especially if you actually agree to it) - when suddenly you're back in the clear light of day, in an environment you love, with the ethereally distorted voice of Amanda Palmer reassuring you.

>>170551283
That's what I assumed, but they still have one post up here >>170524672
I'm not sure if ban removals are automatic per IP or if its manual and this post was missed

>>170550321
Yes, the finale experiences that disconnect between the two narrative elements (sci-fi vs. fantasy) that were intended to be bound by figurative meaning for the main, character-centric and character-driven narrative, but that dontnod simply failed to harmonize properly and thus it ended up feeling dissonant, as if the one took not only a backseat behind, but that it took a hit due to the development of the other. Leaving the main narrative a little confused, the audience even more so, upset that what they cared about now inexplicably found itself threatened by what they didn't, and therefore not willing to see or appreciate any figurative consistency between it all that did still exist and ties it all together in some form of narrative harmony, or at least in a harmony of message and meaning.

Not sure the hospital ending would have made this much better. Apart from a more complete rewrite of the finale to more clearly account for the disconnect and tries to harmonize the narrative into the focus on characters and meanings, I think endings that would have already worked better would be just to have the storm dissipate in the one, and Chloe survive in the other ending. Establishing thereby that it really was about the characters, their decisions and where they arrive due to them, not the world around them. Then it would have already felt decidedly more the metaphorical, symbolical narrative it is supposed to be, more tangibly one about meaning and characters, not about time travel and the world it exists in.

>>170551625
I think a janitor must have removed those posts because someone reported them for some reason... and they seemed off-topic to the janitor because of the Arrival stuff?

Not sure, but there's the archive.

>>170551946
For the storm to work at all as a plot device that feels believable, it had to be explained. It simply wasn't.
As far as I was concerned, logically, it was just a storm.
Maybe Max had something to do with it, maybe the Prescotts did, maybe Rachel did, maybe no one did.
I wasn't prepared to give up a life (Especially someone Max loves and needs) because it *might* stop a natural disaster.

>>170552379
I'll again point out that immediately before the dream sequence, Chloe says something like
>Fuck the town, maybe this storm is Rachel's revenge on Arcadia Bay

It's as if ten different people with completely divergent views on what the nature of the storm and Max's powers was were allowed to script Ep 5, so in the end it was just a convoluted clusterfuck that had to handwaved by Warren.

>>170552957
Every bit of evidence in the game says "The storm is always coming, Max doesn't matter". The storm is in every timeline, even ones where Max never got a power or where Chloe dies.

Compared to two voice lines (Chloe mentioning Chaos Theory in Ep 2, Warren's lines in Ep 5).
But even then it's not Chaos Theory.

The storm may be tied to someone/something but it conclusively is not Max. You could just say even in a hypothetical Bay ending timeline that Chloe's death was not the solution, it just changed another condition that resulted n no storm.
Isolate that factor to find out what Chloe's death changed and you can change it directly and still save Chloe.

>>170552379
I personally don't think the storm necessarily needed explanation. It can work as the pondering on life, where we also do not understand why shit happens, and as that an exploration on how we deal with it, i. e. a story about humans and life, not about sci-fi plotstorms or spiritualistic native lore or whatnot.

For that, the storm does indeed work well precisely because it is a natural disaster humanity has faced since the dawn of time and continues to face.

But that it didn't actually work well I think is because they didn't manage to convey the meaning they had had in mind. That Chloe's death and the storm and such were more symbolical (such as representing Max denial and regrets, or her fears and doubts), and that primarily it was about how one deals with it (an overcoming and acceptance of it, and embracing of oneself for it; in both endings, a letting go of something and moving on with oneself, even if I think Bae works a lot better to conclude most of all of the narrative intentions I see in the story).

Above all, the story was about the characters, and particularly about Max and her journey and development, and the finale and what happens in it was also meant to be about characters... it just was less narratively about them and more symbolically and metaphorically, and dontnod failed to convey this quality of the finale, so that it felt disconnected and confused, clashing and cruel. But again, dissipating the storm and having Chloe survive ultimately - that would already go a good portion of the way to drive the symbolical character-centeredness of the finale home, so that people could look beyond the narrational lack of character-drivenness that we'd come to know and love in the story prior to it. And even just the less pessimistic note of those endings would have made people more willing to look for and appreciate figurative meaning between the narrative elements, and not be mostly upset with the tragical note it felt forced to have ended on.

If anything the storm should have disappeared as Max tore up the photo. It's caused by all her worrying and is a manifestation of a rough past from multiple characters.
Making her final choice and being free of worry for what happened in the past. She's accepting her actions throughout the week, and even before, and she's choosing to be with Chloe.

>>170524672
>>170550707
*a wholly unique and single-most significant work of fiction. Such as in their relation to its characters.

I mean, I was compelled to read an article on Arrival after watching it, which is already more than I normally do after most films... but I don't care about its world and characters anymore - didn't even particularly while watching it. Certainly don't read fanfiction on it or join film forums to talk about it. I don't feel even approachingly as connected to it, its world and characters and story, as I do to LiS. Even just as that they cannot compare, and LiS' value far succeeds that of Arrival for me and others in that regard. How it achives that has been topic of conversation countless of times, and obviously just the episodic and interactive format does its part... but it's much more than that. It has an authenticity and unique aliveness to it and an atmosphere and feeling that I haven't seen paralleled often, and in some respects, not at all. And a romance that I'd never experienced like this before, felt so close to and invested in. Again, I never cared this much about characters and their fate. Hell, I care about the characters even to the extend that I enjoy talking and analyzing minutiae a year and a half after its conclusion. Read fanfiction, scour for fanart, interact with other fans like I do here.

I think you don't read LiS fanfiction at all, do you? So fair enough, maybe it didn't achieve the same thing for you. You are here, and I don't know how typical it is for you to be in video game generals for this long, but it's definitely possible that it didn't touch you like that, that you don't connect and care about it so deeply like others, more deeply in some ways than they ever have in fiction... But if you have other works of fiction where you feel like that, where you do care about its characters deeply, you will surely appreciate that LiS can be that for others, and that that is a praiseworthy, rare achievement.

When are Max and Chloe getting married?
I want to go to their wedding.

>>170556520
As soon as they can convince Kate that homosexuality isn't a vile sin. They'd never get married without Kate there

>>170556654
"Kate, I love Chloe."
"I figured as much, Max. I see how you smile or even blush when talking about her. And I can see you have a good effect on Chloe, she's obviously been through a lot. I'm happy for the two of you."
"Thanks, Kate."

Well that was easy.

>>170557102
I automatically read that in her voice, so it sounds about right.
Even if Kate bought into anti-LGBT views at some point, I think the whole video incident would have changed her mind. Cf. the crossed-out Bible quote about the guilty being punished versus the newly highlighted Bible quote about all being accepted.

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Kate can be the best girl/ maid of honor or maybe even the officiator.
Some unmet younger cousin of Max is the flower girl.
Frank is Chloe's best man.
Victoria is the photographer (She's kind of snobby but she just wants to get good shots).
Max occasionally picks up a camera herself. Selfie with the new wife!

>>170555493
Exactly. Even without any interpretation, the ending is about the characters and where they arrive, which is Chloe's willingness to sacrifice herself, and Max's decision to accept either outcome. A conclusion to the character narrative. As that, the actual sacrifice and actual consequences of the decision are not needed. The story concludes with that decision, the willingness and acceptance in it, and from there, there's no reason to actually give the stuff that was only symbolical and metaphorical narrative device to arrive exactly at that decision a place in the story, let alone such a forcedly tragical place.

The storm first and foremost represents Max's doubts and fears, and whether she can overcome them and accept and embrace herself in the face even of this great threat. The last obstacle is herself, and when she overcomes it, in confidence and dedication and determination (and love), it would have been a great conclusion that the storm dissipates at that. It would have been very clear with that that the culmination was a metaphorical one, one leading up to that cliff, a growth, and the decision as its conclusion, the end of the growth where Max comes to accept and embrace all her decisions and herself (and Chloe), where they win their fight against adversaries and adversities, from without and ultimately within (Max's self-doubts and fears, Chloe's lack of self-worth and idea that she deserves to be abandoned). Or, well, where they don't and succumb to them and go back. Which could however be seen as an overcoming of the pain and regret associated with Chloe's death, an acceptance and embracement of it instead. I don't see that, but that's what dontnod would argue can be the significance of that ending - even without Chloe actually dying, because Chloe suggested it, and Max forced herself to do it, i. e. the acceptance of it is already there for the characters, which is what counts.

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Or if you prefer Chloe in a suit (Maybe one sprayed with William's cologne).
Just another one of life's tough choices: what to wear?
Or what flavor the cake will be?

>>170557517
>Frank is Chloe's best man
I would kill to hear Frank's banter about "those two dorks tying the knot"

>>170556520
I think it would have come up when it was legalized. Depending on which time context you apply, it could be right about now! The game took place in 2013 while it was 2015 for us; now it is 2017 for us, and 2015 in the LiSVerse... meaning same-sex marriage is being legalized sometime this year for them. But maybe they'd wait until they're into their twenties (which they could also be now, if you apply the context that it is 2017 for them same as us).

>>170557834
>Pompidou sitting there wearing a little bow tie
>Frank muttering about how he's not about to become a babysitter if they have kids

>>170557897
I don't think they would just decide to do it when it became legal. Seems like it's following a trend instead of doing it when it feels right. They would probably joke about it tho.
Personally, I think they would wait until they're in their mid-20s. Both graduated school, both have addressed their issues, both have come closer with their families and each others. They've grown up and are ready to take that next step.

>>170557421
There was a discussion in the past but I never saw Kate as being like that, the misconception she was some kind of puritan may have made her a target by the Vortex Club that called her" preachy"
Kate definitely seems to be more accepting than some think and doesn't just go with things because she was told.
She is capable of independent thought and has her own idea of right and wrong. I cannot see how two friends being in love would be wrong to her. Especially when it's Max, someone who saved her life (and others).

>>170558178
Maybe not do it right then, but it would definitely come up. And I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be ready and willing to join in marriage at any time. I don't think their love needs anymore certainty. But it is true that it is still a step to take that is also about things other than love. Obviously must be, because otherwise they wouldn't need to take that step as they already love each other as much as they ever could. It's also about a gesture and celebration, and thus something that needs an extent of planning. And then it's also obviously a legal and financial step to take, and thus needs a legal and financial foundation in their shared life. At least preferably.

>>170559874
It's really not important when they do it.
All roads lead to the same conclusion: A happy life together.
How and when they choose to do it is up to each of us, so it's always great to read different thoughts. Wedding planner DLC when.

Age, time, location, clothing, roles, food, who is what for each side, etc.

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>>170560237
I'd love to play it, even when marriage is something rather distant to me, at least at this stage of my life.

>>170561561
I feel ya. Regardless of my own life's circumstances, I just want to see Max and Chloe happy and thought it could be a fun little minigame.

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>>170561835
Maybe one day we come together to create a silly little Pricefield VN, with such a theme or something else. A half-an-hour experience or something - doesn't need that much writing or art.

>>170563095
That butterfly is one for the following:
Agent of change (Neutral)
A blessing that gave Max her power
A demon that summoned the storm (This is what the LiS Twitter called it)

>>170563307
>what if the butterfly was just a random butterfly

>>170564196
Max said she felt a chill or something when seeing it. Part of me thinks it's another spirit or something Rachel sent.
Whatever it is, it is a physical butterfly since it shows up in photos unlike Rachel's doe.

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Kiss~

Chloe did a number of things wrong.

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>>170568841
Kissing Max - not one of them.

>>170568841
1. Not kissing Max more often.
2. Not killing David.
3. Killing poor Pompidou.

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I liked the idea someone here had to draw Max and Chloe's treefort for this contest.

Ever since we first saw it marked on the map by the lighthouse, with the remark that "Chloe drew it on there so we would always be able to find each other, in case of emergency", I thought it would appear and play a role in the game later on.

>>170568841
She made up for them, which is what counts.

>>170571040
That would have been a really cool idea. Like they get separated and find each other there.
I had so many ideas and wishes for what would happen with the final two episodes and almost none of them came true.
It hurts knowing /lisg/ had so many incredible ideas but that Dontnod went with the most linear and predictable courses of action.

>page 10

Pricefield 4EVER
BAE > bay

>>170477373
Best timeline.

Chloe is straight and finds a nice man to raise a family and reform her degenerate ways. (If she doesn't OD or get some disease and die before).

That leaves Max free from temptation and free for Warren, a much better and more appropriate partner which her family will approve of. Mrs. Caulfield won't have to cry about her daughter being gay and not having grandchildren.

>>170576550
6/10.

>>170576550

Who let Kate's mother post here?

>>170576694
Will Kate and her mother ever reconcile?

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>>170577384

Only when her mother visits her in the afterlife

>>170577384
Never

>>170576694
I don't think Kate's mother would be that bad. She just seemed to not understand the entire situation Kate was in.
Kate's Aunt was the one being moronic with the "You have shamed yourself and this family, God is crying" crap.

Kate's dad seems pretty cool though. Most of the dads in LiS (Barring Sean Prescott) are.

>>170577384
Yes

>>170577384
I think after the entire truth comes out about everything, Kate's mother will realize Kate didn't want anything bad to happen. She just went to a party and something horrible happened to her.
Kate's father and her sisters (and Alice) are all just glad she is alright now.
(If Kate's mother holds something against Kate, then Max and possibly Chloe may have to have a few words with her. God help her if Chloe speaks to her)

>>170580324
Even if it was willing, fucking hell, who gives a shit.

Kate's mother should be pushed off a roof.

>>170478356
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives

But why storm comes when she is dead and max in the basement?

Victoria would not allow Kate's mom to shun her daughter for being a victim

>>170571040
>>170572891
It's Brooke's dorm room, dumbasses.

>>170580585
If it was Kate going "Omg I'm gonna get drunk and makeout with everyone" I would be able to understand her parents and relatives being upset for a short time.
But it would have been her choice. The fact Kate was very vocal that she did not know what happened was a major red flag there was foul play, but some of them didn't seem to care about that. Which is retarded. You don't punish or insult your daughter/niece/whatever for being the victim of something.

>>170580876
No shit, Sherlock.
The discussion was unrelated to the image of Brooke's room that was posted. Someone saying they wanted to draw the Pirates' Treehouse.

I wouldn't mind seeing other dorm rooms either. Like Stella's or even Warren's.

What does Alice think of Kate's parents?

>>170581026
Obviously.

If my daughter did that willingly, I would advise her to be safe and have friends around, at least. I don't blame a teenager for mindless fun at a party, but I would be worried about the slut-shaming stuff from hypocritical manwhores and bitter women.

>>170581189
Oh, I thought you were referring to the posted image with "here".

>>170581589
She loves her gandparents. Sometimes Richard Marsh grows berries in the yard and gives her and Dorothy some.

>>170582267
I don't blame Kate either. She went to a party with some friends and wanted to see what it was like. Even having a single drink wasn't bad.
What happened to her was in no way her fault.

>>170581589
She'll smite Mrs. Marsh if she isn't nice to Kate.

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The next time Kate goes to a party, she will have someone there to make sure she's alright
(They go back to Victoria's room to listen to music and cuddle instead)

Why aren't there more greentext fan fictions?

I'm trying my hand. It's the first fan fiction I've written in a long time, since like grade school. I hope it isn't shit. Please tell me how it is.

>Chloe and Max don't return to Arcadia Bay when Blackwell re-opens, but stay in Portland.
>Kate Marsh contacts Max when she doesn't come back.
>“I'm with my girlfriend in Portland."
>Kate spurns the "devil worshiping hedonists."
>Without high school degrees, they don't find jobs.
>They end up living in Chloe's truck.
>After a few stints in prison, they seek help from their parents.
>Max's parents, mad at her for wasting their money by ditching private school, won't let her stay with Chloe and bring her back to Seattle.
>Max's parents blame Chloe for Max's bad behavior and prevent her from contacting Chloe.
>Chloe is abandoned once again.
>Joyce, a conservative southern woman, and David, a traditional Republican, send Chloe to conversion therapy in return for paying her debts.
>Kate suggests a clinic run by her church.
>Chloe is raped by multiple male orderlies each day to ungay her.
>Max wakes up.
>"Wowsers. What a horrible dream. Good thing I sacrificed that blue haired dyke to save the town.”
>Goes down the hall to suck Warren's morning wood.

What do you think?

Please post your own too!

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>>170582812
Grandpa Richard a best!

>>170584371
I'm not smiting any of my family thank you very much. Grandma understands what she did was wrong and she won't do it again.

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>>170585075
Would it really kill you to be original with your bait? At least try to come up with something new and inventive.

>>170584418
Where is the Dance With Her .webm?

>170585075
I think you should post something original or fuck off.

>>170585254
My mistake. I endeavor to be more like you and fill the thread with the same bunny images and infantile communiques.

>>170585451
This, to be honest.

>>170585451
>infantile communiques
You've already achieved this.

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>>170585123
>I'm not smiting any of my family thank you very much.

You could not. As a soulless being you are incapable of directing the power of God against the lesbian worshiping heathens, let alone my righteous family which has so kindly taken you into their home.

>>170585254
Filthy bunny. Let me bath you with holy water and cleanse your body. You are almost as brown as that mud blood Daniel. If only Max had fallen for him. If not Warren, at least he is capable of pro-creation and won't let her holy womb be wasted on an angry cunt, with a sour slit that tastes like watermelon warheads...with toned inner thighs to squeeze her head as her tongue makes laps around her inner lips...and slender fingers to grip her head and press her down until the throws of orgasm make her weak...and...and...and other sinful things. Oh my. How sinful they are.

Time to clean the bunny...I'll use my hands to clean the bunny. Clean. Clean. Bunny.

>>170586104
I love you!

>It's a shitposter impersonating Kate again

>>170586496
You love a horrible human being and a bayfag. Lol. I'm being redundant.

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>>170585075
>posting an offensive warryn green text
>when the offensive green text where Chloe seduces Kate and they ride off on a motorcycle is so much better (it's warryn free!)

>>170587081
For all the shitposting I do, I've never shipped Max and Chloe to anyone else unironically.

>>170586946
>>170586656
Haters gonna hate.

>>170586496
See you over the weekend.

>>170585281
Hm?

>>170477457
Can you actually waifu Kate?

>>170587290
There's a webm of Max and Chloe dancing together to a techno-pop song with the lyrics "You know you wanna dance with her." It was posted once awhile back, but I didn't have a chance to save it.

>>170587081
>Kate attends church in an immaculate conservative dress
>gets invited up to the altar by the priest to announce she raised a whole bunch of cash for the disadvantaged
>Ultra religious parents all point at her and tell their children "I want you to be just like that"
>Leaves church all smiling
>Suddenly Biker Chloe drives up, clad in leather riding a big-ass motorcycle with sidecar
>Only purpose of the sidecar is to carry a big-ass subwoofer.
>It's spewing metal music so loud that all the attractive women's breasts start vibrating (It doesn't affect unattractive women)
>Chloe sweeps Kate off her feet, and pulls her into a deep kiss, slips a hand into her panties
>Everyone's shocked
>Several attractive female church-goers are caught too close. The combined energies of Chloe's gay-field and the metal music makes them spontaneously start making out with each other
>Kate takes off her panties completely, mounts Chloe's bike, sits behind Chloe
>Chloe revs the engine, letting Kate feel the vibrations directly
>Priest rushes out to try to stop this scene of depravity
>Kate throws her panties in the priest's face, causing him to melt like the wicked witch in the wizard of oz
>the pair drive off into the sunset, with Kate holding on tightly to Chloe with one hand, unzipping her pants with the other to finger-bang her

>>170586104
I liked TheRealWarren better.

>>170587664
I remember this.

Beautiful.

>>170587568
A webm of Max and Chloe dancing together? I'd definitely like to see that!

It wasn't just the Chloe dancing on bed and Max doing the Maxpaddle, was it?

>>170587664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7JtD6WI72E

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>>170586104
>>170586496
>>170587193
>Shit-eating, Warryn shipping and besmirching Kate are not only being tolerated but praised by the general
Disgusting.

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>>170587664

>>170588667
>Praised
Absolutely NOT.
It's World'sBayest and their shitposting buddy replying to each other.
Just ignore them.

>>170588667
>>170588970
What? He's not serious about Warren, Bay, or his greentexts.

He's charming and hilarious.

Love you, darling. >>170587664

Chloe's birthday is in two days!
Quick, start baking the cake!

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>>170590673
Oven is preheating!

Anyone know a good Chasefield fan fiction, please I'm hungry for chasefield

>>170593589
Great! What kind of cake?
I'd say chocolate raspberry.

>>170593702
Don't really remember many. Try Seven Minutes from You and Social Anxiety.

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>>170593850
Sounds lovely.

>>170594756
It does. Joyce and Max can bake it together and then surprise Chloe when she comes home.

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>>170595832
I know it's the second birthday they spend reunited, but Max could still do something for her they did when they were younger. Maybe for the first five birthdays of each other that they spend together, to make up for the five spent apart. Thinking of what they would have done for those birthdays, and incorporating the ideas into how they spend these ones.

>>170596640
If you go by them reuniting in 2013, it's the third or fourth birthday they've spent together!
Cute idea though. I'm sure for each year they do something special and make a point to be alone together for at least part of the day.

Joyce and David always tried to make Chloe's birthday a good day during the five years, but it usually ended in fighting. Now things are better, but Chloe felt really bad (Even then- but she wouldn't admit it). She enjoys it now, feeling more like a family. Plus Max's parents join them in celebrating. One big family pretty much.

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I got a little idea for Chloe's B-day but I'll have to see how good my skills are in gimp. It's been a while.
Tomorrow I'll try.

>>170596971
Depends on whether you think it would be 2015 or 2017 for them now!

With that, it would be Chloe's 16th birthday that Max has to think about what she'd have done for, now. Since it's where William would have gotten her the truck, and maybe around the time she got her actual truck as well, Max could give her a new leather cover for the seating in it. Maybe even a red paint job for the truck, together with David.

If we assume 2017, it would be the equivalent of her 18th. Not sure what Max would have done for that. Maybe a graduation-type present, something to do with science. Since Chloe could actually be studying or even graduating college now, it's extra convenient.

>>170597828
Exciting!

It'll be the first birthday without one of Molli's drawings.

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Let's see.

>>170598069
What do you mean? In a real timeline (Where the game was in 2013), Chloe would be turning 23 tomorrow. Max is 22.

>>170598278
I like how Chloe's coat looks longer there. I just love long jackets.

>>170598981
They were apart for five years. For Chloe, these are the birthdays age 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19. My idea was that in the first five years of being reunited, they make up for these birthdays spent apart by doing things they would have done back then.

If we assume the game time is 2015 now, it would be Chloe's 21st birthday, which is the second birthday they spend reunited, and that means Max would have to think about what she would have done for Chloe's 16th. If we assume game time is 2017, it's the fourth of Chloe's birthdays they'd spend together, meaning Max would have to think about what she would have done for her 18th.

Just a silly idea though.

>>170599601
Okay. Got confused there for a sec.
I've always looked at everything from a real timeline where everything happened three, now almost four, years ago.
Allows a lot more room for thinking and for them, and the other characters, to have grown and healed.

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>>170599825
I also like to think of them in our universe's time scale, as if they're out there somewhere, instead of the LiSVerse having its own that is two years behind.

Either way, I'm out for the day; keep us comfy!

>>170600397
Have a good day, Anon!

>one small dying town
or
>potentially millions after the freak storm that killed red blooded americans spur more action by the gov't against climate change

maybe i'm just being naive tho, they are "coastal elites" after all

The storm would definitely spur changes in Arcadia Bay and far beyond it. Even if the storm itself wasn't that bad, the fact one happened at the end of such a weird week would baffle scientists and encourage others to build storm shelters. Which save save more lives in the future.

So in the end Max helped save even more people by showing them the dangers of tornadoes.
What a nice woman she is.

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>>170548889
>but I didn't think your condescending question warranted much of such a response.
Birds and chatter is a funny observation to me. I'd have put a lenny face if it let me. Don't take yourself too seriously.

>Not sure how this would take away from whether the environments are intriguing
Never said it did.

>>170549508
>the powers do play into the - above all character-centric - narrative meaningfully.
You've described how Max's powers tie into the narrative as if LiS were a book, not a game. Arrival explores the theme of time using cinematic language. From a mechanical perspective the rewinding of time in LiS informs very little of our understanding about the world and its characters. Max and Chloe's relationship isn't anymore meaningful because of the rewind, Max can still 'literally' doubt and second guess herself without it.

>establish a literal time-transcending and death-defying bond
As does Arrival, however Arrival does it using cinematic language, the strength of its medium. LiS does not establish that bond interactively using time manipulation. If it did I would't consider it mimesis.

>>170550707
>but LiS does not lack meaning in this regard
I believe it does lack meaning from a strictly mechanical perspective, as I stated. Overall the time manipulation has some meaning it just doesn't really tie into the mystery, romantic or coming of age themes particularly well.

>does not make LiS any less unique or significant as what it is
Never said it did.

>this does not mean Arrival can be compared to LiS
LiS shares many more themes in common with Arrival. Apparently discussing them gets my posts deleted though.

>>170551283
Posting the Bae>Bay edit of Trumps twitter got me a warning. I thought that was a tad unreasonable.

>>170555615
Saying "This is how much I liked it" isn't that interesting to me m8. More into the "why" of things personally.

>>170580667
She had to die at that time in the bathroom and by Nathan's hands.

>>170580667
By that time the damage was already done, Chloe being dead wouldn't make the storm disappear once it's already formed.

>>170604441
Why?

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Damn it. Don't think my idea is going to work.
I was going to take the photo of Chloe, Joyce, and David from the game and change it.
-Make the house walls blue like they finished painting it
-Make Chloe looking at the camera and looking happier than she does in the original
-Try to give some hint that it's Max taking the photo

But I can't do it without it looking like crap (Especially changing the color on the walls) or creepy as hell (Trying to change Chloe's expression).
Seems it was a bit too ambitious. Maybe I can piece together something else or try another technique later.

>>170605992
I suggest stealing from the other picture, that way you don't have to make up Chloe's face and the blue house yourself.

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>>170606873
I thought I almost had it!
Cropped out the three of them and saved as a layer, painted the entire original image over with a blue tinge (Leaving the window frame and door) and then pasting the crop of the three of them over the original. So the background was blue but their colors were the same.
It almost worked but I still had issues with the flag and border around the layers. As well as Joyce's earrings.

I could probably clean it up some more but I deleted everything I was working on. I'd rather just start again and do it right.
Then there's the matter of Chloe's face. I thought I could just crop one from the game where she's smiling but it doesn't look right. Even just trying to shift her eyes slightly left to be looking ahead looked odd.

I can probably think of some more ideas but right now it's almost 4:30am and I need to sleep.
Goodnight, /lisg/.

>>170607047
I want to hold and cuddle Alice!

>>170607047
If I ever get rabbits again one of them is being named Alice

>>170607774
I looked up a list of most popular at names on Wikipedia once and Max and Chloe were #s 1 and 2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_cat_names#United_States

Pricefield kitties

>>170608209
Wow, indeed. That's pretty funny!

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>>170608662

>>170608662
What cute pussies

Is Pricefield objectively canon?

>>170612997
Yes.

Can you please tell me the name of the process that gave birth to the first self-portraits?

>>170612997
No.
Max/Chloe romance isn't officially canon but Max cares more about Chloe than anyone else.

>>170612997
Pretty much. There's not enough variation in the game cutscenes (Max and Chloe still shooting dem gazes at each other regardless of what you pick, the journal entries etc). At best, you just get to decide if they come out of the closet and fully admit it to themselves and each other.

I know this is kinda old but....

http://wegotthiscovered.com/gaming/vampyr-preview-e3-2016/

>On a somewhat related note, for those who are hoping for Life is Strange 2 (like I am): I asked, but DONTNOD’s reps told me that they’d be killed if they said anything. That’s definitely a good sign, though, and my fingers remain crossed for more time-bending gameplay.

>>170614080
Reminder that there was a VA that talked about working on LiS2 a few months ago.

>>170607238
You could try heading in game to get a screenshot of Chloe facing the way you want her to be. Good luck and godspeed anon! I await your good work!

>>170614349
Who?

>>170607238
Goodnight anon.

>>170614496
Her: https://twitter.com/AmeliaTyler

>>170614080
Season 2 bettwr be a prequel about Rachel or... or... or I'm not going to be as excited as I would be otherwise

>>170615023
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQlWDwOFsy2/?taken-by=millytea

Hmm.

>>170615537
Chances are that S2 will have a new cast and probably nothing to do with previous season.

>>170617009
Dumb question but what are those purple things that looks like leaf?

>>170617243
JDIMSA
Michel can't keep getting away with this

>>170612997
Is the sky blue? Does the Pope wear a funny hat? Is Max cute?
YES

>>170618102
At lest he can't hurt Max, Chloe, and anyone else anymore.

>>170617243
Luc basically confirmed that.

But S3 will definitely have Max and Chloe return. Being older and teaming up with the S2 protagonists to stop the Prescotts once and for all.

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Reminder that Season 2 will take place in California.

>>170620635
I haven't seen that before. Maybe S2 really could have some link to Rachel.

>>170618774
>At lest he can't hurt Max, Chloe, and anyone else anymore.

Knowing Michel, he'll have an Easter Egg in season 2 that shows Max committed suicide or something.

>>170620084
Cringe.

This isn't a dumb action-adventure.

>>170623170
>Chloe died
>Max dies
>Ghost gfs for eternity
>They get to hang out with William, Bongo, and Rachel
They still win

Vampyr general when?

>>170625010
It doesn't come out until the end of the year.

>>170625010
It will just be posted about here. Dontnod games but still keeping the name /lisg/

>>170626391
How come we never talk about Remember Me?

>>170626591
Seems no one remembers it.
I never played it, but it seems to have been decent but nothing groundbreaking.
Which is what I expect of Vampyr, unless the endings are something really special and show choice-based games can be more than a few dialogue changes.

>>170628229
Is Vampyr even a choice-based game? I assumed it was some Assassin's Creed style shit

>>170629261
It's an RPG.

>>170629261
It's confirmed there are 4 endings including a special ending if you beat the game without killing anybody.

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>>170628229
>>170626591
>game is called Remember Me
>isn't memorable at all

heh

>>170629465
I'm guessing one ending will also be KILL EVERYONE and the other two will depend on going with whatever sides there are (Maybe other Vampires or finding love or something).

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>>170625010
>Vampyr

>http://www.vampyr-game.com/

>"The developer wants players to feel the weight of how killing innocent people to survive is the price of being immortal."

>Multiple endings depending on your choices you made

>You have to choose between Eating your lover and all innocent people or Drinking a monkey's blood (sacrifice urself)

>>170629735
>Game is called Life is Strange
>It really isn't strange at all, just regret and suffering

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>>170631025
>the price of being immortal.
Classic Michel

What was Warren, Victoria, Dana and Kate doing in Chloe's funeral? Seriously, they barely know her.
The more you analyse the Bay ending, less sense it makes.

>>170633491
Had Warren even met her at all in the Bay timeline?
If so, it was probably her pushing him into a locker years ago

>>170633491
Well they would come her funeral. In those seventy or so years after the storm they would have become her friend to some extent or another.

>>170636361
>70
>implying Max and Chloe won't mind-upload