/fhg/ - For Honor General

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What did he mean by this

Post chill beats for fights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM7HpidFnVE

>Rep 5 Kensei
>Beaten by a level 6 Warden because he made me guess 3 times in a row and knocked me off a cliff

REEEE

Reminder, do not listen to anyone who claims all characters always block at the same speed

Block changing is not penalized if you are a peacekeeper, and is penalized after one change if you are a slow-blocker

>>170409642
>>170410078

>>170449691
I think he was halfway through his streak order.

Reminder
>>170449775
>trying out warlord
>beat a pk
>mfw he switches to his warden main next match
>still shit on him
Warlords bretty gud.

>>170449945
>warlord

wow nobody is impressed

I miss Lewdkeeper.

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>rep12 conqs

>>170450096
Stay salty noob

>two high level Lawbringer duel
Wow that's the most boring shit ever

>>170450210
you're the one playing the crutch character

>>170450123
He/she still posts here, but after getting banned the first time, they dialed it back considerably and cooled down.

>>170450096
Ya he's pretty retarded. I see now why people bitch about him.

>>170449724
I do the combo unblockable after a throw into the wall or if they're out of stamina, but should I actually cancel it into something more useful after a neutral GB? Or should I just do side lights for damage?

>>170450198
>conq
>leaving vs a warden

why it's a free win

>>170450268
I have lots of characters at rep1+ and regularly win against memelords, so.

>>170450281
That's no fun, I want dirty sleeze.

here it is boys, what literally only I have been waiting for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXdbfHCt2pw

he says "for you" at some point without even trying to bane post

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so I'm a TO for a FGC local event we throw weekly. Not gonna say where or what stream it's on but mainly I focus SFV and Guilty Gear. I've noticed a HUGE increase in this game wanting to go FGC status for sure.

That being said a couple things ubisoft needs to do to make this EVO worthy

1. Patch in a LAN option

This is a no-brainer, in order to make this game a proper fighting game, it needs offline play. It'll remove lag inputs etc.

2. Balancing Issues

Now, For Honor in duel/brawl mode is a definite fighting game. It has cancels, mixups, throws, techs, even unblock ables and command grabs (see shugoki). This being said, after watching a week of tournaments it's obvious that some characters framedata needs to be redone

Peacekeepers + on block gives her WAY to many recovery frames WAY to fast. One mistake as a kensei or Shugoki with a light and she can just dodge > 3 hit combo(2 of those hits are FREE if the PK knows how). The Warlord headbutt recovery and framedata is way way way too + on block. This feels like a spamming session of headbutt >light creating the "vortex" effect if you will. Unlike shugoki who's demons ebrace or charge is a SUPER penalty for attempting if not done right, certain characters get benefits for using such techs. Conqueror feels spam have as well, allowing too much zoning of characters with his smash >light or his grab. Permanently Turtling should not be a good thing but punishable. The list goes on.

3. Ubisoft & P2P

Now most fighting games use this style and it's fucking GARBAGE. It's ruined SFV and causes most people to either quit or just go to locals, sadly For Honor does not allow this. Ubisoft has never made a Fighting Game before so as their first attempt it's good but this is ubisoft, they are well known for fucking up royally with the community(see The Division) be wary of what is being spammed on their forums because it's known that Ubishills will whine and ruin the overall experience for others

I like the new battle preparation theme, I was tired of hearing the war
>>170450310
drums

If a Lawbringer parries your light, he'll get his top heavy in no matter what, right?

>>170450281
>/she
Why even say this

>>170450335
>5 hours total

>>170449809
additional reminder; the only characters which incur this penalty are

-lawbringer
-raider
-nobushi
-shugoki

>try new character
>get shit on by rep 2s
>shit talking me constantly
>meanwhile they're playing memelords and functionally retarded

>>170450491
Sorry, wasn't planing on quoting you
>>170450310

>>170450532

143.
Git gud. At any rate crying about classes on 4th channel won't make you win against them.

>>170450281
It's he you tucking degenerate

>>170450310
I vortexed him to almost zero hp, then he unlocked and started to type that shit.

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>only play Beserker
>always throwing feints into mixups
>bait out deflects/parrys all the time
>any time I beat someone, "Lol spam git gud" or "play a non tryhard character"

Fuck. I just think he's fun, man. Getting so tired of the whole, "if you don't turtle up and only Parry then punish you don't know how to play" mindset

What are kensei's combos after my top light hits them?

>>170450920
Read your movelist. Much of Kensei's game revolves around his chains.

>>170450920
After the first? Another light and then unblockable heavy, but yeah >>170451035 this

>>170451035
But that's exactly what I'm asking. Should I just feint heavy after that or even dash grab? Because I'm pretty sure most people block next side light ez pz.

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>>170450798
Ignore them. Take pride that they can't handle they fact they got outplayed in a videogame Anon.

>>170451118
I can't tell you whether a player is going to let you get away with any given move. Try different stuff, and see what sticks. If they adapt, change your approach and see if they follow along. This is fighting games 101, bruv.

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>be level 6 beserker
>play rep 2's and 3's constantly
>get rekt constantly by memelords and Wardens

Wow fun game guys

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I'm requesting a filthy fanfiction of warden wooing his waifu nobushi of the far east. A west meet east erotic fanfic!

There are still writefag here... right?

>>170451276
You can tell me what works for you most of the time though.

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>tfw no one commented on my fresh paint OC

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>>170451119
I try, anon. Guess I'm not just good with the salt anymore. I hate how everyone always brings up tiers, or how difficult it is to play so and so character. God forbid they ever buff Beserker.

Haven't played since the open and closed betas early this year, how's the game doing on consoles? Naturally /v/ is screaming
>DED GAM
>Ubisoft
And all that, but as we all know, /v/ is shit.

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>bought hellfire for conqueror
>realized that im too lazy to level him

>>170451321
Kensei has a mouth hole on his mask.

>>170451321
I like it anon, should give Mulan the Nobushi hat

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>>170451408
God damnit

>>170450707
HOW

his shield bash can shit on your charge and he can full block after every bash lmao

>beat guy 3:0 twice in a row
>he beats me 3:2 after
>get rekt noob lol ez
Why are people such shitters anon

>>170451350
Zerk isnt even top tier. If theyre salty theyre bad. Take pride fellow zerk bro.

I need help to counter grabs, I'm fucking shit at it and it's unforgivable that a shittter "SECABO" spams me to death with it

>>170451321
But kensei is the one with the bow

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>>170451525
he was shit

>always want to finish with a heavy because executions
>lose half my games because of it

AD MORTEM

>>170451934
tea no minus

>>170451921
Just parry

Should I buy the Kensei spine execution guys?

>>170451630
This thread needs zerker memes. He really is a blast to play.

>>170451567
I'm playing a new character and it's like I'm an infant but people still shit on me.

also WHY does valk keep GBing me in the middle of an attack? That makes fucking no sense to me

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No

>>170451983
I would wait for new ones desu

I dont like any of the emotes or executions for him

>>170452067
>he doesn't like spine replacement

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>it's a peacekeeper with level 108 revenge gear episode

>decide to play brawl
>guy on enemy team goes "honor or leave"
>figure fuck it, might as well
>guy who says that kills my teammate
>he immediately runs on over to me and shugoki grabs me
>spend the next rounds doing nothing but throwing him off ledges while he's having anyeurisms

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>>170451350
God forbid their precious, hard to play, high tier hero gets dicked on by a low tier hero. People need to stop being so desperate to point fingers at other things for their failures when they fail to realize they fucked up themselves.

Embrace the hate you receive, and use it as fuel for your mix-ups.

>>170452038
>tfw play against a premade like that
>two conqs to keep me locked in a corner or thrown into the dirt
>the other two just hammering heavy attack while you're being stunlocked

>>170450798
>>170451119
>>170451350
>>170451630
>>170452226
I'm thinking about trying Beserker. How is he after the last patch? Still need a buff?

>>170452684
>Still need a buff?

He could use a tool, as opposed to not having one at all.

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>>170452038
i had 2 laws fucking my shit up and tossing me over their backs nonstop
was hilarious kind off but i couldn't dash out for some reason im pretty sure it was a loop and i pretty much never had stamina

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Remove Vikang

>>170452916
gg

>>170449613
>play Warden against good opponents
>every top light blocked or parried
>every zone blocked
>every vortex rolled out of/guessed after first roatation
>every feint guessed

Is this why we don't see wardens win tournaments?

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>>170452916
Good to see you faggots are getting punished correctly.

>>170452916
What'd you do faggot

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Joke's on you. I stopped playing for a week now.

>>170452916
Not scaring anybody, ubisoft. Ill keep doing it until you stop me personally. That exp is just too juicy to pass up

>>170453186
>play predictably
>get shit on
What's not to understand?

>>170453240

>risk getting banned so that he can "play the game"
>instead of playing the game and not getting banned

I'm failing to see your logic here.

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I AM THE SUN

>>170453246
Those are literally the only tools of the class, though. I can't be any more unpredicatable. Best I can do is sit and wait for the opponent to make the first mistake instead and punish them while I sit back and scratch my balls, but that's no fun. And besides, the classes that can do that better will always shit on me if I do that.

>>170453227
I got the same, I guess this is from the one time I did it without turning matchmaking off

>>170453221

AFK farmed vs AI dominion for 2-3 rep levels to get my second character to rep 3, didn't feel like doing it all over again the slow way just so i didn't get run over in 4v4

3 day suspension was the punishment, no prior warnings

expecting to see a lot more of these show up around here the next couple of days

What's the difference between a brigandine and a coat of plates?

>>170451983
It's faster than any of his other executions, which is definitely good in 4v4s. It's also fucking brutal.

>>170453626
>3 day suspension
Your levels didnt get reset? Whatever I'll keep going

Does Nobushi have any unlisted moves in her moveset? Like Kensei's blocking while dashing?

>>170453736

don't know yet anon, i'm suspended, can't log in and check, wouldn't surprise me if they wiped something tbqh

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>>170453347
What's your emblem like bro

>>170452748
I think I'll give him a shot. Any tips?

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>>170452916
>greetings, warrior

Opps got a warning after I've already left my guy running in ai dominion. Hopefully Ubisoft servers will shit itself and kick me at some point in the day. I don't get off work for another 6 hours.

>>170449613
I need tips on how to fight PKs. It feels like every time I tru to swing even a top light they can punish me severely for it. One GB near a wall means half my HP is gone. If I try to protect myself from their zone I can hardly guess what they will do with their second light after they whiff the first one. It feels extremely frustrating to fight them since attacking is so punishing, but defending means its just a matter of time until they eventually get enough lights and zones in to kill you.

I play mainly LB, Warden, Kensei.

>>170453801
Could you check on the website? Or does it block you from that as well.

>>170451704
>need help to counter grabs
You are the shitter, bud.

>>170453658
Minimal. Brigandine is more about layers, coat of plates just has segments placed on top of a coat. Also, brigandines tend to have cloth(?) on top of the segments.

Is that a bug or can Kensei actually block during side dash?

>>170453927

gimme the link and i'll check, never used the website before

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>>170454010
i doubt it

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>>170452916
>greetings
>buh bye

>>170454046
forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-US/home/

>>170453886
As Kensei, keep poking them with your top light. If they block or dodge it, keep your distance and feint heavies, baiting for a dash attack. That one you can parry easily, then GB and it's your game from then on.

>>170453819

If you're not already, use a mouse. Mouse is almost essential for a berserker, because you're gonna have to learn to swap guards at the speed of light. If you counted moving your mouse left and right in APM, you need 250 apm in that. Feint, feint, feint. Do not get parried, berserker getting parried is one of the worst to get parried as because you rely entirely on momentum to keep the enemy guessing. If you have to go on the defensive, that's not good.

>>170453975
So the Haedus/Dain torso of the Warden is more of a coat of plates than a brigandine, right? Disregarding the weird mail belt wrapped around one side; I know all of the armor in-game is fantasy as fuck despite historical inspiration.

>>170454154

i can log in, but it doesn't show or tell me anything regarding the suspension

>>170454212
So, essentially I wait for an attack, dodge, then switch up a bunch of lights as fast as I can to get his chain? Then throw feints and mixups?

>>170454175
Also don't hesitate to roll away if they get too close and begin the usual light spam, either they will do the dash jump which you can again easily parry, or you at least gained some distance and again can start poking them.
>>170454010
If your guard was in the direction they hit you - yeah, you will block.

>>170454239
Not sure, I haven't touched warden and I don't know what their stuff looks like. At a guess, considering what most knight armor looks like, probably coat of plates.

>>170453971
I-it can't be

>>170450504
yes

other attacks like side dash attacks that are done with light inputs also count

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crawwwwling in my skin

these wounds they cannnooot heallll

>>170454587
This type of people actually exist in real life and are allowed to breath and breed

>>170454587
Jesus, is school out or something?

>>170454587
>average /v/irgin

>>170454587
average viking player
what hero was he playing

>>170454890
viking

>>170454941
pottery

>>170454941
>>170454890
valk*

sorry, still shaken up by his trolling

>>170454587
That's a special brand of autism.

>>170454345
https://game-forhonor.ubisoft.com/#/en-US/stats

>>170455053
It's okay anon, /fhg/ is a safe space.

>We reverted the Guardbreak mechanics to the Beta behavior in order to have it be a more usable skill.
I keep seeing this in all the patch notes, but what the heck does it actually mean? Do they just assume everyone played the beta, or am I missing something?

>watch Lawbringer trailer to try to get motivated to get Black Iron for him
>THEIR ARMOR HAS NO EQUAL
are you guys fucking joking

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>every Dominion match in the past two hours has been people spamming Deus Vult in the chat and running away until they get revenge

>>170455126
You can now spam the GB button
You can now counterGB someone who GBd you because you tried to GB some milliseconds later

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>tfw conq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfa5VuTVN4
so why is conq gonna get nerfed, most classes can dance around them pretty easily, and shield bash mix up can be dodged and punished pretty easily unless your stuck inside a corner
i know one thing is people bitching about turtling, nigga its the fucking wall of course they should be able to be defensive

>>170454360

Honestly, the easiest way to get going with a Berserker is to keep poking with lights from left and right. They're some of the fastest attacks in the game that barely has an animation. When you can, get a parry, guard break them into a wall and top heavy. Then use that momentum of them trying to get away from you to either GB again, and pull them again (always pull people somewhere if you're gonna GB, unless it's a kill with side-heavy. Your GB-movement does damage.) or just back off and see if you can pick at him.

Berserker also has the advantage that he has one of the fastest recoveries from feinting in the game, so the feint top/sides into GB is extra useful on them. I'm by no means a good Berserker myself, but I know the theoretical part of it. Which isn't a lot. Because Berserker is very basic in idea, but difficult to execute well. Primarily because the fucker lacks tools outside of making people shit themselves if they fail to block an in-combo top-heavy.

PK lights and zone do way too much damage

Will I get more steel if I have already finished the storymode and redo it on realistic?

>>170455198
I hate those guys too.
T. Deus Vult uplay name

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>>170452684
He's shit
In my opinion he is the worst character in the game.
His trait (the infinite chain) is fucking useless and might not even exist at all since there is no way you will ever get to pull more then 2 hits of on anyone decent in this game let alone get the unitaruptable and less stamina drain after the 4th hit, 4 FUCKING HITS BEFORE IT ACTIVATES.

he can dash cancle his lights but he is locked into attacking to the side he dashes every goddamn time.
Unlike Orochi he has no storm rush he can cancle out of or start a dash attack with a like PK with a heavy.
The put most of his power into his slow ass overhead (good luck getting that off against wardens lol) and his zone is shit that locks him in one direction and can't be cancle out off.

He has nothing.

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>>170455286
Nerf PK.

>>170455276
Because you can play completely safe as him and use allblock to do ridiculous shit such as deny attacks that are a confirm on any other class

>>170455454
>start a dash attack with a heavy like PK*

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>lawbringer gets a damascus steel axehead

>>170455454
How would you buff him?

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What's the best class for MAX DEF gear?
I just fought this son of a bitch.
He HEALS when he BLOCKS and he spent half of every fight in Revenge mode!

>>170455681
>He HEALS when he BLOCKS
>I better keep RANDOMLY SWINGING into his shield ANYWAY

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>>170455454
He's a lot of fun to play though. You just have to be prepared to lose a lot, even if you actually won.

>>170455681
Warlord

>>170453319
Nigger not everybody can sit at home and play for 10 hours a day. Gaining the extra exp was the only thing stopping me from bitching about all of the dropped games

>>170454727
>We reverted the Guardbreak mechanics to the Beta behavior in order to have it be a more usable skill.
>I keep seeing this, but what the fuck does it actually mean? Do they just assume everyone played the beta?
Previously, if you suffered a guardbreak while you were attempting a guardbreak yourself (i.e. you both guardbreak at nearly the same time and one of you hits first), it was untechable. Now, you can tech those.

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>>170455662
which is that?

I wanna try a defense/stam axeblade on LB but it's hard to get one to drop

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>>170455680
Replace his current zone with a commandgrab.
Something like doing a pintcher move with his axes that gets a hold of the opponent to then swing them to a side and get the oppontunity to attack again.
If you have ever played Yun from street fighter you will know what im talking about.

It would be balanced in the way that you wouldn't be able to counter gourd break out of the zone but you would be able to block the attack that is coming next.
It's kinda like wardens shoulder if it wasn't total bullshit and gave a free hit.

>>170455918

Nor did I say you should. Why risk getting your money literally thrown away because you have an inferiority complex when it comes to levels?

>>170455920
this

it means that if you see someone trying to grab you, you won't make it into an untechable grab by reacting too fast and pressing X early

the only problem is that if you wiff a grab and get grabbed as punishment you can tech it now

>>170455286
I think she just needs a class with the tools to counter her somehow, devs said that supposedly Raiders do great against her according to stats, but I can not imagine a good PK consistently losing to a good Raider.

As a Warden the best I can do is throw top lights predictively to catch her while she is about to attack, I dont dare use zones because one block means nearly half my HP is gone if there is some sort of environmental barrier near me.

I rarely risk parries either because with her quick attacks trying to parry a feinted attack means that you will eat at least a zone or a light even if you catch yourself and cancel your parry.

I rarely risk feints, too, for the same reason - they do not have to try to parry or block the feinted attack, they can just throw a light and interrupt it unless you are a Warlord.

It is usually down to trying to bore the PK to death enough for them to decide to try to leap and lose a third of their health from the crushing counter. If they can consistently parry your top lights and are extremely patient, you are fucked.

>>170455991
tormod head

>>170455681
Any class with defense gear is insane. I've actually seen people build Orochis into full defense with a minor emphasis on attack. They'll turtle to get revenge then just mash attacks blindly since the punishes are so weak against them.

>>170456153
You can't remove a character's zone attack. They're used to clear minions.

>>170455823
He is fun to play i agree but it doesn't make much sense that you have to play him like the most defensive character in the game to even get by when he is called berserker

>>170456153
>untechable zone command grab
would it still be blockable since it's a zone?

>command grab
as in the whole grab is a set animation or you can throw people any which way?

and if you could block the attack that's coming next even off of a wallslplat, surely it would be uselessly slow without one

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Is Shugoki viable on higher level competitive or is his moves too limited to mix up?

>>170456314
It doesn't even do that effectively

>>170456443
He is hampered by PK, he is actually one of the few classes decent against Warlord and Conq, but the stabby bitch gives him too much trouble with her extremely fast attacks and ability to open great gaps between herself and the Shugoki even when out of stamina because of the range of her dash.

Did That One Namefag leave?

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I saw a Conq with a SKULL shield, whats the name and does anyone have a pic ???

>>170456314
since when

>>170456443
Shug's got a few tools that lets him stay relatively competitive.
>Latent super armor lets him easily score trades in his favor
>Charging heavy for unblockable can fuck up enemy timing
>You can guarantee his Demon's Embrace grab off a wallsplat
>Golf swing is good for damage and environment kills if you can line it up
The problem is that he's one of the more matchup-reliant characters. He does great against Warlord and Conqueror, but Peacekeeper eats him alive because she can easily remove his super armor and render him vulnerable (remember that he takes more damage when his super armor is down).

>>170456443
decent agaisnt warlord and conq
bad against PK nad warden

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Cute

>>170455273
So basically they made it easier to counterGB, but less risky because now you can break while trying to go for one? I always did find it weird that two people GBing each other couldn't counterGB.

What's a good KD in duel modes for an honorfag? Hovering around 1.5 on most of my heroes, 3 on the more broken ones but I don't really play them

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>>170457003
Cute

how to beat a turtle warden


i can't react fast enough to his dash shoulder charge and everything i throw is blocked. feints don't work

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>>170456251

>>170457143
is that fucking Gollum?

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>>170457003
Such a cute face :^)

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>>170456437
>would it still be blockable since it's a zone?
No, that's the fun part.

>as in the whole grab is a set animation
Im thinking either would be fine, it could be like LBs unblockable over the shoulder move or just work like a regular grab so you could constantly throw people into walls.

>surely it would be uselessly slow without one
I would make it so that you could at least get a light off a wallsplat to start chains.
And the whole idea about it having to be slow because it's an unblockable needs to fucking fly out the window and crash in a pit of fire.
He isn't called patiante wating around man, he is called berserker so ofc it would need to be reletivly fast but have short range like a regular thorw.

What it would look like is something like this
>match starts
>you land a attack
>zone
>fake heavies
>land another attack
>zone
ect. so you have options instead of being locked into just trying to sneak a light in every now and then

The zone would need to not cost a fuckload like every other zone and do a little damage to put the fear into people.
I think that's only fair

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>>170457003
>shadman

Does anyone have this Lawbringer flowchart I've heard about?

>>170457003
>two swords
Can Shadman do anything right

>>170457003
>>170457259
I knew i had seen those fucked up proportions before

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In the last hour I've connected to 10 games and only been able to complete one of them.

Is Ubishit ever going to fix their broken mess of a game or should I just sell it and move on?

>>170450228
>shove shove feint feint shove feint shove *out of stamina*

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>>170455198
I actually find Dominion much less gay than Elimination/Skirmish because you can either force people to fight you (stay on points) or just go fuck off to push the middle instead of chasing people.

Also no powerups.

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>>170453815
>bull icon with triangle over it
Clever, I like it.

What exactly is the dodge timing to avoid a headbutt from warlord?

If I dodge backwards it has absurd reach and still hits me. Do I just dodge to the side instead?

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>>170449613
>Elimination
>Enemy team has a Rep 6/GS 108 Conqueror
>Literally goes 12/0 and carries his entire team (0 kills each, various amounts of deaths) to victory
Even ignoring the gear score, he was just too good for that match. It felt good being the last person against him two of the three rounds, though

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>>170457143

doesn't look so bad from another angle

>>170457341
https://img.fireden.net/vg/image/1488/15/1488156249754.png
Would upload the picture but I'm on my phone so that's a pain in the ass right now

why aren't my blocks going through?

I mean seriously

this has been a consistent problem

my character will have his fucking weapons raised above his head but none of the fucking damage will be blocked

THIS GAME IS RETARDED

>>170457697
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHY IS HER HEAD SO FUCKING BIG

IT'S LIKE OPENING A ORDINARY DOOR AND SEEING A HUGEASS FACE ON THE OTHER SIDE

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>>170457732
>image acknowledges that walls exist but doesn't acknowledge ledges or other hazards for the impaling charge
Umm, honorfags?

Jesus why does every fucking orochi player has red connection

Fucking 3rd worlder weebs.

>>170457832
it's possible you thought you blocked the attack earlier than it actually would have hit you and put an input in which lowered your guard

>>170457963
because everyone knows how cliffs work and you don't exactly need to worry about cliff-followups

>>170457832
You are an idiot and move your stick/mouse away from the direction by accident.

>>170457963
Honestly they should remove all ledges and most hazards then give him and raider some more bonuses for slamming people into walls

game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after FUCKING GAME, shit teamates.
constantly.
fuck this game and community

>>170458060
>>170458049
I think you two are on denial island. I hope the fucking island sinks you cucks.

>replace dualshock with 360 controller o bought a while ago
>deadzones are ridiculous large
Is there some retard-friendly way to reduce these?

>>170458190
wow calm down anon

>>170458176
haha, play duel

>>170457890
That actually seems pretty normal sized, just compare it to the rest of her body. I think it just seems big because you were expecting the mask to be a lot more roomy for some reason. It does look a lot better though.

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I have no friends who play this game and I need 5 games with a friend for elimination to complete my steel farming for today.
Gotta get dat raider mythic outfit.

Anyone need the quest too?

>fight against prestige 2 Orochi
>rape him dead
>switches to Valk
>win first match again
>ragequits after I don't fall for his ledge bullshit
Why are people such cunts

>>170458240
Well that's a lot of typos, phoneposting hard.
They're ridiculously large*

>>170458313
Are you one of the people that complained to me about """gank""" in 2v2? I really hope so.

>>170458357
PC ?

>>170458523
fuck, yeah forgot the platform.
I am pc.

>>170455198
WE GONNA TAKE JERUSALEM XD

>>170458470
Did I call you a retard for trying to play 1v1 in a 2v2?

Can anybody confirm that they haven't seen anything new past rep 6 in terms of gear visuals? I'm Rep 8 on Berserker, and I'm still waiting to see those mythical full helmets someone was memeing about a week ago.

>>170458568
If you don't mind the lawbringer, you can add AnanasButter on uplay

>>170449613
How do I beat a good zerker? One who feints and then kills me in 4 heavies in duel

>Play conqueror

>Shield bash
>Light attack
>Shield bash
>Light attack
>Shield bash
>Light attack
>Shield bash
>Light attack
>Shield bash
>Light attack
>Shield bash
>Light attack
>Shield bash
>Light attack
>Shield bash
>Light attack

>Win

Great game

>>170458586
No. I asked because I tell people to play duel when they try to play 2v2 as round-robin 1v1. I guess you and I are on the same side.

>>170458243
RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>170458664
you just need to have a pulse, honestly. added.

>>170458470
Not him but 2v2 is still built around player skill and separate 1v1s, a large majority of players enforcing this means you're a dick if you gank

If you want to gank play Dominion where it's expected since due to bullshit gear and the gamemode itself not really encouraging skillful play

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>>170457697

>>170458697
Ah right my mistake. Just played a brawl where my teammate stood back and let his opponent execute me before then getting killed himself all because I came to help him finish his guy off.

I got very angry with him.

>>170458470
If you're crying about your teammates, try removing them by playing duel. Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>170458697
See: >>170458762
2v2 is closer to 1v1 than 4v4 in playstyle and etiquette. You may not care about the latter but the former affects you anyway

>>170458762
I'll start believing that once mechanics start supporting that arbitrary bullshit. Until then I'm going to make judgments based on what is physically observable rather than what I feel is true in my heart, friend.

>people in this thread who seriously complain about ganks in 2v2

reminder: the better strategy is to not immediately gank, but to save it until you think your ally actually needs it. If you don't gank until you need to, you might end up playing the first round straight, which might cause your opponents to mistakenly afford you some honor when they have the opportunity to gank.

>Terrible at fighting Conq
>Like, the worst
>Absolute trashfire
>Play Elim
>Enemy team has 1 Conq
>I'm against him every single round

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>>170458762
>>170458891
>m-muh honor

Play 1v1s you cunts.

>>170458964
I honestly don't care what you believe but 1v1 is expected in 2v2s but not 4v4. Why antihonorfags insist on 2v2 despite knowing this I don't know.

I'm an honorfag but I don't throw a fit over getting ganked in 4v4 because it's part of the gamemode and expected

>>170459050
Le shield bash gimmick man

>>170459067
I addressed the "hurr play 1v1" nonsense, ignoring it doesn't mean you win

>>170459185
no you didn't
you just vaguely claimed "hurr 2v2 is basically like 1v1 because I said so"

>playing lawbringer
>lose every single duel

l-law... hah...ha...

if you can't finish off my teammate before i kill yours you deserve to get ganked

git gud

>>170456321
Rep 6 Zerk here. Your words are true, but damn do they hurt ;_;

>>170459354
Putting fingers in your ears and yelling doesn't mean anything

>>170457470
Make that 2 games completed in an hour and a half.

Fucking fix this shit Ubisoft.

>>170459506
but that's literally what you just did

>>170459364
Surely not *every* duel, right?

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>>170458687
You're getting baited by their offensive pressure. Recognize that, and check your guard. As long as you keep patiently blocking and watching for guardbreaks, they have to throw a haymaker sooner or later. Don't get baited (again), and you'll punish them.

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>>170459185
It doesn't matter what you think. The absolute only thing that matters is what the game allows you to do.

>>170459538
orrrr you afk farm for 10k steel a day like everybody

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>>170458763
Small people sometimes have really big heads.

>Wardens 4th feat damage buff is global for your team

Huh neat, does anyone know if Conqueror makes it persist longer or is that only for Elim/Skirmish powerups.

>>170457607
That's how you want to play 4v4 modes. You keep engaged until the other person becomes passive, then you run off to gank one of their buddies and force them to attack you.

>>170459818
Just like my animus!!

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>>170459818
to be honest it might be the bugeyes that are really getting me

PK looks like fucking steve buscemi

>>170457167

If he refuses to top light or zone you gotta stuff his shoulder bash anytime he attempts it or roll out. Remember he cant bash unless he dodges first at neutral stance.

>>170459067
1v1 has shitty maps. Until someone ganks I always play 2v2 like a better 1v1.

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Explain yourself ubisoft

>>170460485
>bleed buff
>enemy debuff
>lots of damage
Wow!

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Post mains.

>tfw think I might actually be good
>tfw other people might also think so
>keep getting 2/3/4-v-1'd and either killing 2/3 of the attackers or outright winning

oh my god.

>>170460615
>the mohawk blocks the visor so it can't be opened
What did he mean by this?

>>170460615

Rep/Level?

Also, how long did it take you to get that helmet?

>>170460728
Currently rep 7 level 9. Got the helmet around rep 4 in a post-match drop.

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>>170460708
>a visored barbuta helmet is retarded fantasy to begin with
Who cares?

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>>170456624
>>170456817
>>170456918
When fighting PK (or anything that likes to keep distance) I do a zone attack. It leaps forward, they don't usually expect it, and the second strike can be canceled. Works well if they do a running move to trade blows.

How do i counter coqueror's meme shield bash loop.

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>orochi switches to lawbringer
>switches
>i get called a ledger after this

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>>170460708

I 3-1'd a rep 6 warlord using a no rep valk

My best dude is a rep 1 conq

Are high rep warlords guaranteed shitters?

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>>170460615
the wall

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>>170460615

>>170460978
DOOOOODGE
If you can't dodge, well you're SOL.

>>170460168
>he doesn't want to play as buscemi pretending to be a cute girl in a mask

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>>170460615
Still waiting on some Teutonic horns/wings. Or any ornament that doesn't look like a fucking animal trophy and also matches Material color.

Feats and/or gear stats
Good idea/bad idea?

>>170461035
valk is just easy as fuck and not many people are used to fighting her

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>>170460987
>valk bash just casually turns nintey degrees at the last second
post webms

>>170461283
But Valk was underpowered. :^)

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So for a revenge build do you want revenge mode duration high or low?
I'm assuming low to pop it as often as possible?

Also in what order is it generally a good idea to prioritize the stats on the weapon piece that gives Attack, Defense and Stamina Cost Reduction?

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>>170461181
Someone photoshop Peacekeepers mask into this

>>170461449
depends

you can go for max duration and let the buildup stats be second highest in favor of the rev att/def stats if you want

How long do you think it will take Ubisoft to fix the connection issues and balance the game? I want to know when I can start playing again.

How long did it take them to unfuck Siege?

>>170449613
Is there a sweeter feeling than making people ragequit with RAIDER of all characters? except doing so with LB

I don't think there is.

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>>170457210
>>170457697
>>170457143

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IT KEEPS TELLING ME I HAVE A NEW BLADE BUT I DONT HAVE A NEW BLADE AND IT WONT GO AWAY MY AUTISM

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>170462154
yeah it does this for hilts AND helmets for me

>>170461726
Making a PK or an Orochi ragequit by perfecting them is a fabulous feeling on any character.

>>170462154
>not know how to access the secret menu of items so you can customize the way your guy look
lel

>>170462237
Well I just did for the Orochi. Shit was good. He just couldn't dodge the zone attack any time I kneed his face, nor could he parry it. I just spammed the shit out of it and he folded like origami paper.
This was very satifying.

>>170456712
>>170462237

>>170462154
Yeah also tells me I have a new paint pattern when I don't.

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>>170462358
I wish you weren't trolling.

>>170462404
Leftover from when I started the impersonation riot, forgive me.

It's gone.

>>170462632
The impersonation riot was a dark time.

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>play 5 duels against 5 players
>lose all 5
t. noob

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>>170462632
Or maybe you are the real namefag and not an impersonator!

What do you guys think about this post?
>inb4 leddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/5xp0dj/ubisoft_how_will_you_fix_this/dek6sib/

>>170458761
what's your username?

>>170462929
ded dick

>>170462939
What do you play?

>>170461449

Attack and defense are pretty important. Since they both double dip with Revenge Defense & Attack. I don't find Stamina reduction to be that significant because revenge completely nullifies it.

I would do fast revenge on most characters except LB and Warlord because their Shove and Headbutt become completely busted in revenge.

>tfw beating a rep 2+ in a mirror match with your level 5
I feel so bad destroying peoples self-esteem like that

>>170462950
Seems like it would turn the game into For Assassins

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>>170463028
Valkyrie

>>170462950
>leddit

In seriousness, I agree with the idea of making For Honor feel more like a fighting game and less a game of mind games + being too afraid to attack. In the current state there are very few ways to attack in neutral, and the few characters who can (PK, Warden, Warlord, Conq) are considered top tier.

If every character had "safe" options for offense, the game would be more aggresive.

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>1st match: enemy team is nearly full 108 revenge gear and has blatantly higher MMR
>2nd match: get 2 rounds in, error, kicked to main menu
>3rd match: get kicked to menu during first round
>4th match: kill and execute enemy warden, but someone ragequits during the animation it resets, get promptly ganked by 108 PK and pushed off a ledge
>5th match: instant disconnect for both teams after the loading screen

Yup, pretty much done with this game. Call me in a year when they've (failed to) fix shit.

>>170462950
>heavies in chains need to be unparriable
jesus christ no

>>170463168
Then you really are a noob.

If you could do one thing within reason to buff Lawbringer, what would it be?

I like him slow, I understands why he would be but, I would give him much better chip damage on block.

>>170462950
>leddit

What do I do without my parries!? Total game breaker for me if they allow combos to be guaranteed. You need to earn your full combo by playing smart.

>>170463257

What's so wrong about that? People don't even use combos in their entirety unless it's for the Kensei or Lawbringer. It would make for more interesting and dynamic gameplay that shifts away from turtling.

>>170463408
Improve stamina cost. That's it. I do really well as Lawbringer, but even with maxed out stamina cost reduction I find I have to keep backing down due to lack of stamina.

>>170463408
armored heavies

>>170463662
>how do we improve Lawbringer
>replace him with Warlord
Might as well make Shove link into Light Riposte while you're at it

>>170463408
Give him some range
THE MOST VERISTILE WEAPON EVER MADE
WIELDED TO ENSURE MINIMUM RANGE AND POWER

>>170458694
Try it, you'll get murdered in 2 seconds.

>>170463408
Shugoki armor. That a half naked fat dude with wood armor is more resilient against blade attacks than a knight in full plate is absurd anyway.

Regardless if you choose to follow it, this is etiquette among players:
1v1: Universally accepted that ledging/hazards is dick
2v2: Universally accepted that ganks are dick, hazards are a gray area
4v4: Generally accepted ganking is fine, however if the enemy isn't ganking try to reciprocate it; follow the flow. Ledging, hazards and so on are acceptable

>b-but if you want 1v1s play duel!
If you want to gangbang, play 4v4. 2v2 is still a "duel" mode whereas 4v4 is built around chaotic, unbalanced [lol gear] fights

Being a strict honorfag in the wrong setting and being a shitter who needs to win at all costs even if it ruins the fun for everyone are both retarded.

>>170463408
Make him a cute loli for max moe versatility.

>Playing a game mode that has gear score
>Elim
>People get mad when they see my 108
>went 8/3 this game
>The 3 is because of the 3 rounds where it was 4 on 1 and they were all wailing on me because they could not kill me otherwise

>>170463884

Ganking is a really stupid idea in 4v4 unless you have Goki or LB, its a great way to get your teammates killed.

>>170463884
2v2s are three thousand times more fun when played as the mode was intended to be

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>>170463297

>>170463884
>a shitter who needs to win at all costs even if it ruins the fun for everyone
I don't think you understand. That's the entire motivation for most people. That's all they get out of this. Their lifes are so oversaturated with entertainment, that causing other people anger and frustration is the only escapism they still have.

>>170463408
he needs more than one thing
>allow shoves to wallstun people if they get shoved into a wall
>either allow LB to confirm a heavy off of non-light parries, or buff his light riposte's damage
>give all his attacks just a bit more range
and as an across the board change
>all characters switch guard stance at the same speed
failing that, at least LB has to have his guard stance switch speed increased to function as a counter attacker

Any warden has the full Lobric set and can share some screenies?

>>170463762
But anon, if you give the law range all the conservative conquerors will start complaining about big government.

>>170464050
Where can I check that?

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>>170460615
Just got Black Iron for LB and a Defense axe to try for unkillable memeing in Dominion

>>170464008
Even in 2v2 I see the gankee come out on top a lot
>>170464049
Ask Ubi how it was "intended" if you disagree with my hypothesis
>>170464052
It's more just tryhard kids who need to win at all costs; competitive games are fun when you have good fights, not just cheesing for numbers.

>>170461123
>>170461247
>>170460615
>It's always the same people over and over

>Elimination
>Orochi runs away instantly to gank my team mate
>That same orochi and me are the last ones standing next round and he runs away to tie the match instead of fighting
>Finally fights me the next round
>Almost dies
>Runs away

Orochi's are pathetic

>>170463468
>>170463257

If they remove unblockable status from chain heavies and make unblockables single, unchainable attacks, then I see no reason why they couldn't make heavies in chains unparriable.

Literally all you would have to do is block. Parries in this game are PISS easy and they are the reason it is ALWAYS, safest to never attack and just wait to get parries or untechable guard breaks (which should be a tool for offensive players, not defensive).

Seriously, between parries, the slew of ways to generate untechable guard breaks off of your defense as well as the pathetic chip damage (is there even any?) there is no reason to ever attack in this game.

It's pretty shitty.

If they made some attacks unparriable but still blockable, at least you would have to mix up your defense a bit instead of going for the piss easy parry to get a free untechable guard break + heavy.

This game is on life support right now, something has to change. We need options to open up defenses better than guard break which is countered by a simple mashing.

>>170462950
>https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/5xp0dj/ubisoft_how_will_you_fix_this/dek6sib/

>the way to make the game more offensive is better hitstrings!
absolutely not

It doesn't matter how many hits you can get off of a combo if the neutral game you use to get a hitconfirm is the same. Additional hits off of an inital confirm just means you don't need to get a hit in neuteral as frequently to win a match.

>>170464175
it's in the OP anon.
>https://fhtracker.com/

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>>170464252
>how dare you take the optimal strategy in this shitty mode

>>170464243
Wow, it's almost as if people frequent general threads! Who'da thunk!

>>170463884
>2v2s are duels
It's 2v2 not 1v1+1v1

>>170464401
They literally call it a duel mode

>>170464368
It's almost like there's nobody else who bothers with the general more like

>>170464282
>>170463535
if they give characters unparriable attacks then LB becomes even more non-viable than he already is.

I disagree with the idea of unparriable attacks unless LB gets a complete rework shifting his role away from "counter-attacker", which he can barely perform at this junction let alone one where unparriable attacks exist

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>be Nobushi
>drop the game for 2 weeks
>90% of playerbase is now Orochi/PK
>game is now 90% unplayable
Wow. Is Ubisoft just pandering to the lowest common denominator?

>>170451301
they're still busy with horses :^)

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>>170460615
>>170464207
For maximum unkillable memery make sure to take the parry feat, it stacks with defense and revenge defense making you stupidly tanky, you want to parry whilst being ganked anyway due to it giving you a free 80+ damage ad mortem.

Also you actually want duration, the shield is not as valuable as constant stacked defense, and shove bullshittery after every heavy or block.

You can also shove someone when not revenged and then revenge immediatedly after it lands and they will fall down

>>170464545
>Nobushi
stay out

>>170464207
Fuck. It's going to take me a damn month to get to black iron at this rate.

>>170464545
orochi is far from the biggest offender, I feel relieved when I see an orochi instead of a warden, valk, PK, or warlord.

>>170449613
>he plays nobushi, Pk or warden
>he thinks hes good

Even conquerors are better at the game than these three classes. Everytime I play these people, I instantly notice they can barely ever parry except slow attacks, cant react to light attacks, cant feint and dont even react to feints. That's simply because they are crutch charactrs, their tools are easy to use and designed for noobs. I guarantee you, play someone else until rep 1 and youll see how shit you are.