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Good night Blood Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

The GBF collab event is LIVE. Check the following pastebin for details:
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Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Bat'ed: >>170413945
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>>170427859
Ramping ahead 4 is a bit much dude. You either need to get out bahamuts or pendants followed by dragon wings, breath, glacial, fafnir, and others to keep dragging their board back down.

>>170427929
It's got a good chance next xpak. You got a lot of cheap wards and value and if you offcurve it you can baphomet into dealer+dominator then limil's with board ward next turn.

>>170428180
I hate nep, dshift, and haven. They're both gonna spam removal then play an overbearing win con. Playing them is like being an observer unless they brick horribly and I nut.
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Turn 1: egg
Turn 2: egg + egg
Turns 3-6: ????
Turn 7: Victory
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Minthe, Gawain and Belphegor are all 4 drops. What are Cygames intending to do?
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ITT
People complaining that new blood legendary is useless despite giving them a T9 2 card combo autowin.
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>lmao kill yourself blood players
What did Cygames mean by this?
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>>170434040
Eggstatic
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>>170434062
>>170433837
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>>170433297
>Aktiver vengeance
>Beast dominator
>Rampaging giant
>Alucard off into the sunset
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70194
Please concede or let me hit face.
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>>170434062
>Turn 9 10 damage
>Auto win
If Blood has the burst damage to that point like Sword, yes. But Blood isn't sword.
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>>170434006
Board wasn't the problem, never is against Daria. Hence "faceburn". When I lose to Daria, it's always with their board being empty, or close to empty, with no creature damage incoming. It's all spell chip and storm bullshit from 10 health onwards.
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New cards from nicostream

Axe Fighter
2/3 3pp
Enhance 6, gain +3/+3

Elf Butler, Vist
Ward 2/5 4pp
When you play forestcraft follower who cost 6pp or more, reduce this card cost by 3.

Belphegor 4/4 4pp
Fanfare, draw 2 cards then set your leader defense to 10 if vengeance is not active for you.
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This is your blood lego for tonight.

4PP 4/4
Fanfare: Draw 2 cards. Change your leader's defense to 10 if Vengeance is not active for you.
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lmao fags if you arent sword mains might as well kill yourself
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>>170434140
Why not set to 10 regardless of your vengeance status? That way it could at least have an upside, that tiny bit of stat bonus, and not like blood was lacking draw
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>B-b-but the lego kills yourself
Not if you're already under 10 defense
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>>170434062
>T9 I win card
>Again

>Tfw cygames literally goes ' Please play fast, please end games fast, please only aggro, or otk
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I'm still laughing at that blood lego
Send help
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>>170434062

t. Newfag who never plays Azazel with Mary

Go off yourself.
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>>170434140
2/5 4pp ward

Elf is getting overstatted card now?
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>>170430018
>1st leggo after 15 packs
>its nep
>already have 3
>spent 7k vials before the 15 packs to make two

Kawhy?
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>>170434062
There's absolutely zero reason to believe those two cards would interact like that.
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They better print out cards that worth getting into vengeance in burstverse.
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>>170434140
Which class is axe fighter
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>>170434160
>We can't easily get into vengeance for all these vengeance cards
>Here, have an overstatted vengeance pop
>>170434207
4pp heal 1-9 is haram

>>170434249
That's on stat but a defensive distribution
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>>170434290
Neutral.
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>>170434290

Neutral Bronze.
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Thanks to the previous swordbro.
Please fite me so I have the rupees to buy these fantastic new cards being revealed.
93046 (Bakery)
7/20
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>>170434062
I suppose it just sets the enemy HP to 10.

I doubt they printed a "if you have more than 11HP, win the game" effect.
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Urias...had a hard life...
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>>170434317
>>170434324
>Neutralcraft getting even more overstatted followers
epic just epic
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>>170434230
>Mary surviving a turn
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>>170434324
>>170434317
Christ neutral is out of control
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A list of classes that can do 10+ damage from hand:
Sword
Shadow
Forest
Dragon
Rune

The legend Blood got:
Belphegor 4/4 4pp
Fanfare, draw 2 cards then set your leader defense to 10 if vengeance is not active for you.

Really makes you think.
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>>170434062
2 card albert with 0 versatility
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>Person with the most dragon ranked wins right now is B rank
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First tourney: http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT (finished)
Poll for saturday tourney: http://www.strawpoll.me/12485732/r

Projected time for the next tournament: Saturday, Mar 11 at 5pm PT
How is this time for everyone? I can't have it much later because of my own shedule but i can move it to earlier.

Feel free to throw me more suggestions about time/rules etc.
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>>170434409
As always Haven is the hated class.
Fuck.
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>>170434458
That's always how it is. People starting a new account and playing a craft (especially a bad one) can get lots of wins in a hurry as they go from Beginner to A/AA
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Please concede
12001
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>mfw
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>>170434458
lmao i cant stop laughing truly the cuckest craft
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>>170434402

What I am saying is that you will only be dealing 10 damage with bell+Mary. The fuck is that OTK on turn 9?
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>>170434414
>no evo needed
>isn't stopped by wards
>gives you 2 cards
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>>170434495
Haven is the class with a literal I win card.
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how is that blood leggo even better than azazel
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my dad works at cygames and the second blood lego will be this

9pp amulet
vengeance is always active for you.
reduce the cost of this card by 4 if vengeance is active for you.
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>>170434549
Azazel don't help kill you by turn 4.
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>>170434532
There is no OTK, but 10 dmg from hand while getting 2 cards and leaving 8/9 on board is quite a nice combo.
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>>170434536
Except for the part where you can Odin that card.

Good luck Odin-ing DShift or this new blood combo.
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>>170434549
You cant put your opponent in vengamce too :^)))
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>>170434597
my mother works at cygames and the first dragon lego will be this

10pp cost follower
5/5
discard all cards in your hand
heal yourself for 1 per every 3 cards discarded
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>>170434409
blood can too but you need 3 cards
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Did cat kill himself because of his lose streak?
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>>170434632

Read the chainpost. 8/9 on turn 9 is not auto win.
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>>170434409
laura-servant is 13


>>170434495
You have amulet summon out the ass letting you draw 2 and have a board of 2 4/5 ward, a 5/4 ward, and a 6/6 at the end of t5. You have banish out the ass and the most destruction/damage in the game.
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>>170434671
Discard dragon is saved!
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>>170434671
too op for dragon
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u wot
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>>170434714
If you can't get through them, yes it is because they can either ward or baha/themis every turn after until they kill you.
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>>170434703
It's baseball time in Japan
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Voting time!
https://www.strawpoll.me/12487424
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>>170434813
>>>/reddit/
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>mfw bloodfriend sees Bell-chan
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>>170434774
kys healing cancer
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>>170434813
>vania
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I need to see wojack Urias now
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>>170434883
kys unga cancer
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>>170434781

>Blood using themis

Stop playing single campaign.
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>>170434334
Thank you Erika and Luna

Please fite me so I have the rupees to buy these fantastic new cards being revealed.

93046 (Bakery)
9/20
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>>170434923
Whoops, I was thinking Aegis
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>>170434886
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please tell me aegis will be a good card /svg/

its the only unique one so far and jeannu is fucking dogshit

>inb4 dies to bane
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>>170435082
Blood got Belphegor. What are you complaining?
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>>170435082
>9PP do nothing
What do you think
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>>170435082
It's a wincon for Pure Elana. Good to chemo cancer like Shadow and Sword.
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>>170435082
Turn 9 do nothing
Mordecai was a turn 8 do nothing in a slower meta back in DE and he was absolute shit before Nepthys came around and enabled him
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inb4 they reveal a cheap bronze amulet for blood to permanently activate vengeance
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I have to say, so far Tempest has been a big wad of nothing. Pretty disappointing.
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>>170435132
>>170435147
stop this meme

im sure they will give haven more card to deal with unga and then we will be able to save 1 evo point t9 like sword
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Whoever thought Belphegor is a good card at Cygames need to be fired and shot.
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>>170435239
EGGS
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>>170435179
Did we get any new abilities?
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>>170435239
the same fucker who looked at albert and daria and then said "yep, this is fine"

the game wouldnt last one year if this favoritism keeps up
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>>170435147
>the worst class at the time vs a class specifically designed around being THE Control class
CShadow was simply a meme at the time. Aegis is just another win con for Haven. They already built decks around Satan, that comes out later.
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>>170435082
dies not to bane but it's still bad in aggrostormverse
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>>170434532
>The fuck is that OTK on turn 9?
Not turn 9 but blood has OTK on turn 10 now
Azazel + Laura + Razory claw
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>>170435259
And that guy too.
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Can someone give me a concede?
98391
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>>170435305
Yeah and sun satan is soooo good compared to seraph right?
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>shitters on /svg/ think blood lego is garbo
lmao, ya'll should just shut the fuck up and eat the netdecks the japs give you like good babies
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What if vengeance is a lingering effect? Let's say you set yourself to 10hp then after you heal up you're still in vengeance for the next 2-3 turns then it disappears until you set yourself into 10 again. So the playstyle of blood will be swinging in between 10 hp and high hp ranges rather than sitting at lethal range all the time just to proc card effects
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>>170435394
>evaluation: S
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>>170435394
I don't think the lego is as bad as people are saying, but I don't take GameAI's opinion seriously anymore either;
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>>170435394
That font rendering looks pretty horrible.
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>>170435394
It's also 1000 vials!
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>>170435539
Because it's google translate.
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>>170435443
>blood will be swinging in between 10 hp and high hp ranges rather than sitting at lethal range all the time
But thats how you play control blood since forever
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Why no one talking about Vist? 2/5 ward for 4pp is really good.
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>>170435394

She's only good as a fap material dude.
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>>170435394
>implying a 4/4 for 4 that draws draws you to 2 is good
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>Get matched up against luna
YOU'D
NEVER
GUESS
WHAT
HAPPENED
Unless you guessed ward wall into utter faggotry that doesn't even take an evo point
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>>170435583

Warden gives you 2 fairies for last words at 5PP and no one uses him. Vist's discount only works if you play a 6PP or more FOREST follower. Guess how many there is.
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>>170434409
>Forest: Roaches, DoubleBolt, QuadThornBurst
>Sword: Alberto, CastleFall
>Rune: TripleCrimson+Rune
>Dragon: ForteUrd valet
>Shadow: Howling Cerberus
>Blood: SatanCommanderLaura
>Haven: MoonBunnyUrdFalcon valet
Everyone can to 10+, except Haven needs an amulet on board beforehand.
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>>170435583
>Cost reduced to 1 if 6PP forestcraft follower on board
Literally Cynthia's boytoy
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>>170435394
>retarded gooks post effect descriptions instead of plain card text so no one knows how broken Gawain truly is, yet GameAI considers it S tier already even though they think he doesn't have an evolve effect
KILL THE DYKE MEIDO
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>>170435394
It's trash because it doesn't interact with the board. It could only work as a combo piece with Mary, and won't see use except in Mary meme decks. Nobody would play this on curve over something like Wardrobe Raider.
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>>170435661
Aerin
Maahes
Wolf

It's gonna be really good in control wolfbolt deck.
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>>170435564
I get that's how cblood works but you still don't want to sit in vengeance just to make sure your rev costs 4 that turn before healing. you can just swing from 10 hp to 15 or something and rev will still cost 4 for a turn or two Instead of hoping that they don't have albert you can be proactive at triggering vengeance and healing up the same turn..
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>>170435583
what's the point when ancient elf is 4/5 for 3? you'll only get his discount if you're using cynthia or wolfmeming.
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>>170435639
Shadowcraft is honest :^)
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>>170435727

>mufasa

No one uses him.

>doge

You should be winning next turn after playing him.
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man these card reveals sure are fucking uninteresting
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>>170435394
i'd say it's a good card. but how good it will be depends on the other vengance cards.
right now it's A at least.
depending on new vengance cards it can become S.
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>>170435639

Just eat your eggs, Browen.
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>>170435375
Thanks!

Also thanks Forte from before.

10266 (Bakery)
11/20
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>>170434991
Room not available?
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>>170435883
t. Dragoncuck
Sword main here, btw.
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>>170435727
>Elf Butler, Vist
>Ward 2/5 4pp
>If you play follower who cost 6pp or more, reduce this card's cost by 3.
Playing Aerin will drop this card to 1pp.
Playing Wolf afterwards will drop this card to 0pp.

This card allows you to drop a ward on your wolf turn.
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Almost done with this Granblue pish. Just Haven to go. Thank fuck.
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>>170434637
No, you can't. Read the card
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>>170436068
>You can't Odin the Seraph

what
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Can't wait for the 10pp forest wincon that can be used with Wolf.
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>>170436068
>Aegis
>I win card
"I lose" card you mean
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>>170436102
Aegis
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>>170436042
Now you think about it, his cost actually can be reduced to 0. I have better opinion on that card now.
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Who's more eternally butthurt, Dragon mains or Blood mains?
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>>170435785
Aerin is most definitely going to be used in wolfbolt forest to replace fairy beast and it gives you the ability to drop down a 1 PP 2/5 ward on turn 7 with whatever else you play or combo with Aerin + the elf boy on turn 7. Overall it makes your turn 8 wolf a much safer play to make.

>>170436042
You're assuming the reduction is cumulative. I assume it's more like a piercing run situation where the reduction only occurs once.
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I want to try control blood, please post dicks /svg/.
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>irrelevant shitters of svg even bothering to post their false opinions
Kek
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>>170435984
Actually, most of the cards revealed were just boring, or outright bad.

Enchanted Library and Stolen Life. Elta is awful too.
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>belphegor's sacrificial offering is excrement

Cannot make this shit up.
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what does goblin princess look like?
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>>170436235
>mfw I remember most of the gameplay pics here are from AA/A
>they think their opinion matters
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>>170436278
I think Belphegor can make this shit up.
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>dshit players when they cant play their solitaire
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Why does it seem like everyones stories are tied together except lunas? Just a weird little girl running around with skeletons attacking the others?
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>>170436223
>I assume it's more like a piercing run situation where the reduction only occurs once.

PR sets the card cost to 2. not reducing it.
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>>170436190
You see that smiling Rowen pic every single thread. They are very positive and happy players despite being buttfucked every single expansion.
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>>170436365
Because she was a last minute pedo bait thought. She's should just be removed from the game.
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>>170436417
DELET THIS
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Need a concede!

49347
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>>170436417
>underage ESL fag hating on Luna

Like pottery
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>>170436228
Anyone?
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the blood legend is legit good. i'm not kidding.
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>>170436417
>pedo bait
You have to go back
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>>170435394
She should be good in unga Vampy. You don't care about life total there and if there's a turn 9 evolved Albert coming your way then the gamestate is already beyond winnable with no recovery.
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>>170436467
kys pedotumor
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>3PP 2/3 or 6PP 5/6

Where are you when a neutral bronze is better than most revealed class cards?
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>>170436485
>le 10 health mechanic

Nah
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>>170436417
THIS, she even has a generic shade as a "final" boss in her story mode
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>>170436443
Send help
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>>170436485
>t. cygames
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>>170436485
She will fit just fine in my Aggro deck.
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>>170436528
>3PP do nothing or 6PP do nothing
Amazing
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>doing dailies
>breezing through most of them
>need one last win, was having an easy match, too
>app suddenly crashes when I got hit
>proceeds to lose my next matches
>lost points, precious time, dailies now an hour apart
>my reward pack was also generous of giving me 1 silver card and the the rest bronze

So this is what cuckoldry feels like.
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Let's rate the new leggos.

Forest: both unknown so far
Sword: Gawain (good), 1 unknown
Dragon: both unknown but it's gonna be memes
Shdadow: Minthe (meme?), Eachtar (good)
Haven: Aegis (meme), Jeanne (bad)
Blood: Bel (good), 1 unknown
Neutral: Zeus (good), 1 unknown

Sucks to be Eris, I guess.
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>>170436443
Thanks finalcrop
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>Play a against a sun satan
>Going second, don't mulligan any ramp, got a death dragon, breath, and ace dragoon
>Topdeck emissary for a lightning behemoth
>He has a temple defender and snek t3
>Breath the temple defender to clear the way
>He plays sun guardian and plea pops
>Hit him with an 8/8 lightning behemoth t4
>He cocytys' behemoth
>Play another behemoth
>He plays a radiance angel and ends turn
>Play a twin headed and an ace. Evolve the ace and clear his angel then face with behemoth leaving a 6/6 1(4 next turn)/4, 8/3 board
>He plays a healing angel and temple defender . Evos the angel into the ace dragoon
>Twin-headed gains 3 atk for overflow. Play serpents force on the twin-headed then drop and evolve a dragon rider for a 6/6, 7/7, 6/4 board. shove the dragon rider through his ward then face for 13
>Obviously, themis
>Play a wyvern cavalier then leviathan
>He odins leviathan then evo trades into the leviathan
>Play a death dragon and shapeshifting mage
>Obviously, it's turn 10, he plays bahamut
>Game dribbles out and obviously I lose
All I learned from this was removal/stormverse is shit and maybe card games aren't for me.

>>170436190
They're both infinitely butthurt so who cares
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>>170436670
minthe will very quickly turn not meme if they release more cards like ghostly grasp (low cost with powerful effects but necromancy)
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>>170436670
t. C0
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>>170436670
>Belphegot
>Good
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>All this shitstorm about the first blood leggo
Can't wait for dragon's
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>>170436528
>4pp owl is 6-7/5
>5pp goblinmount is 4-5/7
>6pp Axe guy is 6-7/5
>4/2 carrots fucking everywhere.
Just delet rowerman. Canoes just don't cut it anymore
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Does Belphegor do damage? Does it at least trigger Blood Mary?

if it doesn't its just a fucking really bad leggo.
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@Google doc anon:
You mistyped the PP cost of the new bronze card in the mouseover description. He's 3PP.
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>>170436903

Think Azazel, but only affects you.
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>the best idea they could come up with for a blood legendary is usage in a combo that already exists with another card but for 1 less PP and an effect that is already accomplished by another legendary with better stats at the same PP bracket

Are they already fucking out of ideas? Forget whether or not it's shit (it is), it's just sad that this was the best idea they could come up with.

I'm gonna be mad as fuck if this piece of shit shows up in my new packs when the expansion releases.
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>>170436813
Why would you use goblinmount instead of goblin princess in a deck like that
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>>170436670
Minth is good, she makes the low pp high shadow cards playable which is key for the spirit cycle tempo shadow they're pushing.
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>>170436751
try harder nigguh

>>170436764
Unstoppable face damage combo seems very nice for cblood, but it's not a craft I play outside of [bats into face] for missions.
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>blood babs think a 4 pp 4/4 that draws you two cards and triggers their class mechanic is a bad card
you can't make this shit up
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>>170436962
Useless on curve, though.
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>>170436962

No one is going to play Meme Grasp just because it goes well with Minthe.
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>>170436950
I'm not used to the new cards yet, yeah, take the princess.

>>170436945
If you're not at 20hp, she hurts you less than soul dealer.
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>>170436670
I like how no one thinks it a possibility that the dragon legends could be good. Cygames has truly set a high bar.
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Hey guys, I need help with a concede mission please

11259

On an unrelated note, I just saw a Korean stream showing this weird Korean knock-off of Danganronpa.
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>>170436503
aggro cards should have an immediate impact

also aggro bats care for hp when they face another aggro or tempo deck
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>>170436190
Blood, the only ones without a free win button.

Sword: unga bunga Albert
Haven: Seraph
Rune: DShift/Daria.
Shadow: Nep and everything she enables + Khawy.
Forest: OTK: The class.
Even Dragon has turn 7 Satan shenanigans.

Blood has aggro, which will lose to any other aggro deck because you hit yourself so much. Midrange Blood is just ok. Combo Blood requires immensely lucky draws, as there's no way to guarantee you get your combo pieces (unlike Prism/Gobbo/Maid Leader/The infinite card draw that Rune has) and Control Blood is also ok.

Most of the time, decks that are just ok don't cut it in a game filled with great decks.
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>>170437087

They decided to showcase an egg in a fucking magazine while every other classes get crazy shit.

Really makes you dhink.
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>>170437115
Laura-servant along with just everything being able to maul the other player.

We're not getting a tempo bats deck yet laddies
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>>170437019
The fact that Cygames has to create a card like that which becomes a staple to properly trigger a class' mechanic instead of adjusting the mechanic itself, is definitely a bad sign.
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Soul Dealer or Belphegor?
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>>170437019
I'm not blood, and it's clear this card is trash. There are already cards that do the same thing, and we are now in a meta where blood control frequently flops from something as simple as dire bond, which actually heals you.
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>No silver Necro cards revealed yet
Saving the best Khawys for last.
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Bel wouldn't be so terrible if the cards she pulled had "vengeance" tags on them
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>>170437229
I don't really know or care. Probably dealer. Presumably they're gonna evo trade or removal him which gives you a free board to Baphomet a t6 power play.
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>>170437210
Vengeance needs an overhaul.
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Design the Khawy-tier card they will inevitably reveal that makes Necromancy Shadow viable, /svg/.
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>>170437263
What the fuck are you supposed to even do against a nep deck other than run a nep buster while throwing all your other matchups.
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>>170437204
>Laura-Servant.
I remain unconvinced that it's anything but a joke combo that works once in a blue moon. That said, I haven't tried it. If you post a deck that uses it, I'll give it a shot.
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>>170437345

>6PP silver
Necromancy (99): Win the game
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>>170437229
Soul Dealer.

Baphomet lets you fish for him on turn five and reduces his cost to 1, which lets you play Soul Dealer AND Bloody Mary on turn six.

Belphegor is awful shit. He's actually worse than Soul Dealer now.
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How many wins?
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>>170437229
I think Balph is better than SD, simply because Balph can never reduce your health to less than 10. SD will most likely drop you to less than 10.
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>>170437039
Then don't play her on curve?
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>>170437102
Any kind soul out there?
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>>170434062
If it doesn't say "deal damage" then it doesn't combo with Mary. The only reason for this is suicide aggro so you can run dark generals and demon commanders. It even gives you the card draw aggro needs. Not a terrible card, but it won't see much play as long as 5+ face damage from hand on turn 5 is still a thing.

The sword lego is a turn 4 do nothing. It's best play would be a turn 6 front guard and it is likely to want to waste an evo point. It does nothing to help Albert after turn 8, and requires you actually have the commanders you need for the combos in your hand. It has great value, but this game isn't about getting great value from plays because of cards like dod and themis. This game is about storm damage and surviving storm damage so you can auto win on turn 9.

I honestly think the blood lego is better than the sword lego given the current meta and the options blood/sword have right now.
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>>170437417
>Little removal

I say 2 wins at most.
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>>170437417
2 fuckin alberts, wtf
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>>170437507
I just remove their face bro
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>>170437413
>1PP
>Gains 100 shadows but reduce your HP to 1

and we have a 7 PP win-con
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>>170437417
5 or you should kys
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>>170437345
>implying hector or undying lord isn't khawy-tier
Imagine those cards in any other craft. Just imagine it.
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>>170437408
>Beat on the other guy
>Cocytus his fats
>Storm kill from hand
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>>170437494
>>170437102

Thanks tomo!
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>>170437417
5-0. It's sword.
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>>170437416
Oh shit, you gave me an idea. You can OTK with Mary + Soul Dealer discounted + Belphegor. It's a 3 card combo that deals 20 HP on T10, so it's probably meme-tier, but it's still possible.
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>>170437408
I don't know about higher rank but I managed to climb A3 into AA using that combo.
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>>170437707
You wont have 20hp or likely even a kill combo
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>>170437345
Underworld Watchman Chawee
7PP
6/6
Ward
Fanfare: Necromancy(8) Randomly destroy one of the strongest enemy followers in play and then restore X defense to your leader. X equals the destroyed follower's attack.
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>>170437707
Azazel + laura + razory claw
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>>170437794
You mean 3pp right?
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>>170437413
minthe + this would be too broken
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>>170437794
>not khawyna
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>>170437872
anon.....
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>>170437345
What was /svg/s reaction to khawy?
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How can I improve this, /svg/?
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Too much waifu gonna ruin my laifu...
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>>170437872
Yeah, Minthe actually infringes on their design space for necromancy. They can't make any effects too powerful that cost too little mana. If they are going to be game ending necromancy effects, minthe + them has to cost a lot of mana.
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GOOD NIGHT
BLOOD SIDE
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>>170437932
a lot of /svg/ actually said he was bad cause they thought he would come too late to make a difference
this is just one of many reasons why you should NEVER listen to this board's opinions
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>>170437229
You can at least meme with 1 PP soul dealer + Mary with baphomet. Belph is just disappointing.

>>170437427
That also means Belph will almost always do less damage than soul dealer when used with Mary, which is the only reason to actually play these cards.

Damaging yourself to 10 health on turn 4+ just to draw 2 cards is idiotic. The card doesn't even give you the health back like Dire Bond does.
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>>170437345
Fenrir 9pp
Necromancy(30): You win the game
6/6 > 8/8
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>>170437229
Wombo combo at 8pp. Play Dealer, play Belph and you get to draw 2 without receiving damage from Beph.
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>>170438015
>large group of people
>some of this group were wrong once
>they can never be right again!
Could you be any more absurd?
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>>170437827
>13PP

?
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http://blog.livedoor.jp/shadowv/archives/14717384.html
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>>170438113
most of this board consists of A rank and below shitters that don't know anything about this game. you can't refute this.
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>>170438081
Why not just play 2 Belphs and draw 4 cards?
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Minthe is cute, CUTE!!
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>>170438194
Most people who play Shadowverse fit into that category. What is your mythical, better alternative?
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>>170438181
IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN

WEEBS PLEASE, MY FIX, I NEED IT
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>Ignore the albert and continue to go face
>Win
Impressive considering at one point I was at 12 health and he was at 20. I finally found a way to beat this shit deck.
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>>170438196
You're good at making combos, anon. I should try it.
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>>170438181
>that first card

OY VEY
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>>170437345
Amulet that gains shadows from opponent's discards too and draws a card that cost as much as the amount of shadows you got this turn.

Oh, wait. This is SV.

Tyrant Lord, spend 3 necromancy to summon a dead creature, repeat until board is full, then spend 8 necromancy to give them storm
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"The apostles of the dead moon"
Rarity: Bronze rare
Type: follower
Class: Necromancer
Cost: 1
Attack power: 1
Fitness: 1
ability:
Fanfare: Give one other follower "can ignore ward" and "can attack again"
>>
Now that I started tracking my games I feel a lot less tilted when I look at the numbers, I should have started this long ago.
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>>170438181
>That "support shooting" card

Huh. Could be interesting.
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>>170438251
《イスラーフィール》
Neutral leggo
9pp 8/8
Fanfare heal 4
On attack, deal 2 to all enemies.
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>>170429518
>No, Daria is not a bad matchup against dragon since you can heal through the burn and clear their board. Look at Dragon win-rate versus Rune on shadowlog if you don't believe me
Shadowlog told me that you're d-rank shitter.
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>>170438181
Sword amulet is some bullshit.
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>51% win rate

Is Daria officially dead?
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>>170438417
That can't be real. That really can't be real. How would this ever be balanced? I could understand if it cost quite a bit, but as a 1 drop it's just a perfect combo piece that turns any follower buffed by Cerberus into an instant OTK.
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>>170438523
The can attack again part isn't real.
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>>170438452
So Saha can clear 2 big minions + everything with 2 hp
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>>170438181
It looks like aggro shadow and meme Tyrant might be getting some help.
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《ビートルウォーリアー》
Elf bronze
3PP 2/3

+1/1, rush if you've played 2 cards this turn
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>>170438417
would be a pretty cool card if it was real
it would be added it to the long list of puzzle pieces tyrant needs just to work every once in a while
meanwhile, in swordcraft
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>>170438519
Lower than 50% is 0%, higher than 50% is 100%.
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>>170438417
That would make aggro shadow top fucking tier in a heart beat.

That's WAY too good.
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>>170438609
>>170438606
>>170438523
>>170438578
yea i'm sorry guys, i misread it. it only ignores ward.
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>>170438598
疾走 is storm though isn't it?

突進 is rush
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>>170438417
I think it just grants the ignore ward effect, not the attack again effect.
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I can smell a megalorca legendary for dragon.
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Israfil

Legendary Neutral Follower

PP 9 8/8

Fanfare : Heals 4 damage to your leader.

When this card attacks, deal 2 damage to all enemies.

Beetle Warrior

Bronze Forestcraft Follower

PP 3 2/3

Fanfare : If 2 or more cards played this turn, this card gets Storm and +1/+1.

Covering Fire

Gold Swordcraft Amulet

PP 5

When a Commander enters the board, deals damage equal to its attack to enemy leader. If there is a follower(s) on the enemy side of the board, deal that damage randomly to an enemy follower instead.
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9PP Neutral
8/8 -> 10/10
Fanfare: Restore 4 defense to your leader
Whenever this follower attacks, deals 2 damage to all enemies.

Saha gets more ridiculous, guys.
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>>170438181

>Daria support
>Daria SEARCHER
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>>170438598
《学院の新入生・ルゥ》
Rue, silver
2PP 1/1
Fanfare: draw a random card with spellboost from deck


《アクアネレイド》
Dragon, bronze
3 PP 1/1

Fanfare: Summon 1 Orca

>>170438653
o right
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>>170438687
Aka another meme?
>>
They really are pushing neutral craft in this expansion
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>>170438471
>vs. ramp dragon
>literally says 43.6%
I hope this post is a joke, otherwise you must be the dumbest fucker on this earth.
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>>170438758
Shit, unconditional 3PP 3/3 worth of stats.
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>>170438758
《死月の使徒》
Shadow Bronze
1PP 1/1
Fanfare: Give "ignore ward" to a follower.
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>>170438758
>3 PP 3/3
It's not bad, but it won't be played either.
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>>170438181
"Soul Dominator"
Rarity: Gold Rare
Type: follower
Class: vampire
Cost: 7
Attack power: 4
Physical strength: 6
ability:
Sprint
Every time another follower is destroyed, it gets + 1 / + 0.

Eeeh. It's still worse than Imp Lancers.
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>>170438690
Oh hey, Saha gets to party with her buttbuddy now.
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>>170438764
More cards for dragon
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>>170438690
looks like saha has ridiculous options now
>heal
>storm/single card removal
>2 damage aoe
Not much reason to run bahamut in saha decks anymore if you can play 3 zeus in a row while ahead and lucy/israfil when behind
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>>170438758
>orca

SEACRAFT
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>>170438832

《ソウルドミネーター》
Blood gold
7PP 4/6
Storm
If an allied follower is killed, +1/+0
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>>170438690
Freshman Ruu

Silver Runecraft Follower

PP 2 1/1

Fanfare : Add 1 Spellboost cards randomly from your deck.

Apostle of Death

Bronze Shadowcraft Follower

PP 1 1/1

Fanfare : Give an allied follower the ability to ignore Ward.

Soul Dominator

Gold Bloodcraft Follower

PP 7 4/6

Storm

Whenever a follower destroyed, gain +1/+0

Aqua Nereid

Bronze Dragoncraft Follower

PP 3 1/1

Fanfare : Summons 1 Megalorca.

Mist Shaman

Bronze Havencraft Follower

PP 2 2/2

Fanfare : Give an allied follower protection to targeted spells and effects.
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>>170436485
this.
eventually people will realize
>>
Beetle Warrior
Forest
3PP Follower
2/3 → 4/5
Fanfare: Gain +1/+1 and Storm if at least 2 other cards were played this turn.

So I heard you like bugs.
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>>170438882
Other than the fact that he's, y'know, a 13/13 body in addition.
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concede pls

38723
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>>170438882

Well, it's not like Bahamut is a bad card.
>>
Haven't run into a single sword or forest deck in 16 games at A2, how is this possible?
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>>170438758
>MORE Rune tutor/draw
It's over, guys. This game is dead.
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>>170438915

《ミストシャーマン》
Haven Bronze
2PP 2/2

Fanfare: Give "ignore ward" to a follower.
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>>170439018
this is wrong, it gives an allied follower targetting immunity
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>>170438776
>Dorothy tempo witch analysis
>43.6% winrate against lamp
>46.2% winrate against dragon in general
Dragoncucks can't even read, yet they complain the most.
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>>170438452
>I know what we should do randy
>Let's take an inferno dragon
>Make it cost 1 more pp
>Then make it heal for 4 and multi-purpose as a 2 aoe that hits face too
>For everybody
Fuck man, I dunno if I'm gonna make it through april
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>>170438921
Soul Dominator

Gold Bloodcraft Follower

PP 7 4/6

Storm

Whenever a follower destroyed, gain +1/+0

sounds pretty sexy but not as good as dragon's new gold
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>>170439065
Worse than Alucard.
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>>170439053
Fuck, got its effect mixed with the 1/1 shadow.
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Just rename dragon into neutral.
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Who's this guy
>>
So does the new Rune card pull cards with spellboost, or does it pull cards whose effect is to spellboost?
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>>170439137
Loki I believe
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>More spell card tutor

Why Cygames keep giving dshift the ammo?
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WHEN WILL BLOODCRAFT EVER GET A GODDAMN GOOD LEGGO FOR AGGRO? JESUS CHRIST CYGAMES
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>>170438519
Any deck with over 50% wr is good, just not op like before.
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>>170438934
>more storm bugs for forest
this is getting good, but we can do better
legos when?
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>>170439018

>>170439018
《援護射撃》
Sword Gold Amulet
5PP
Every time you play a commander, hits a random enemy follower for X.
X is the commander's attack.
If the enemy has no follower, hit face.

And this is all the cards.
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>>170438758
>3pp so it's a bitch to play with neptune or queen serpent
>Both of them can't survive anything hitting them
Thanks I guess...
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>>170438160
Use baphomet to tutor Azazel, substract 3 from his cost.
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>>170439175

This card >>170438854 is unga enough for you?
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>>170439057
Yes anon, Daria has a 43.6% winrate against ramp. That means that ramp Dragon is favored to win 56.4% of the time.

Is english your second language or something? Literally every post you makes just proves how fucking retarded you are. Or maybe you just read the initial post wrong as well. I don't know but you should probably delete your posts because the fact that you can't even understand a site that basic means you must have a single digit IQ or something.
>>
>shadowcraft
>take-two

IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO MAKE A GOOD DECK THIS WAY
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Dshift is back baby
No one will ever even remember about Aegis by the end of the TOG
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>>170439209
13 FACE ALBERT HERE WE GO
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>>170438854
It's like they learned nothing from guilty courier.
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>>170439121
But that card is worse than Imp Lancer AND Alucard.
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>>170439175
you literally just got one m8
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>>170439320
>Irritated by Dragoncraft ramping? Well have we got the card for you!
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that shadow card is OP. it's another 1 drop for aggro shadow with an insane effect that usually costs 2 pp. expect to hear a lot of bitching about this one boys.
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>drop Vampy going first against rune thinking they won't have an answer for it besides kaleidoscope
>two angelic snipes
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Time to main blood
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>>170439276
I can't really think of situations that is better other than trading bunch of low-cost minions to buff it up. It still seems worse than running 3 Imp Lancers.
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>>170439018
>Finally a shrine knight that doesn't fuck you
Wooo!

>>170439175
Because a bronze, dark general, and silver, alucard, are better?

You're also not getting tempo bats this xpak so tough titties
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>>170439209
please be fake
>>
for all those bitching about the amulet: it's a 5 pp LITERALLY do nothing, as in, it doesnt even leave a body on board. it's a purely win more card.
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what is this even
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>>170438921
>Silver Runecraft Follower
Another spell search card, kek. Have fun, controlcucks.
>Bronze Shadowcraft Follower
>Ignore ward
Literally what?
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>>170439448
It's not fake, nice for CSword, but they have already GREAT 5-drops so idk.

Useless in Albert unga.
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So aggro shadowbros, are you guys gonna play the new 1 drop over skelly fighter or just play all 12 1drops that we have access to?
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>>170439209
Looks like they're trying to indirectly nerf Albert through Maid by giving people an actual reason to play other Commanders.
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>>170439276
>Cost 7pp
>>
>No new keywords, or abilities
>Just more hit face cards
Nice design, cygames.
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>>170439468
>only 2 posts about the amulet and sword mains are already in full damage control
really prepares my skyknights
>>
need a concede please 38373
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>>170439468
>play control
>ever have a turn where you aren't in trouble
>throw this down, every albert is now an enhanced albert at 5, other commanders will clear the board or end the game, etc
It's clearly not an aggro card, but it will be cancerous without a doubt
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>>170438927
people who don't play cblood often or just play random netdecks don't realize how much you end up overhealing or how easy it is to heal back up from 10. the card is one of the strongest announced so far.
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>>170439209
>They automated an arthur's light commandcraft deck
Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on

>>170439468
>Play it
>Other guy jerks off
>Monika one guy off the board
>Evo the second off
>Every turn after you blow anything they play off the board
Yeah no. It's basically a fanfare erasmus or all intents and purposes
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>>170439468

>it's a do nothing card

Will this meme ever end
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So what cygames is saying is that I should play dick shift.

Got it.

>>170439571
They definitely want to kill Albert-is-the-only-comm decks, yes.
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>>170439363
or 7pp ignore ward Tyrant memes. Luna will make people hear the Dragon's Roar better than Rowen
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>>170439564
I say play all. More shit to feed your reaper with.
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>drop amulet
>Drop high cost officers that now double as removal and burn
:^)
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>>170439607
it literally does nothing the turn is played unless you play it with another follower
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>giving the one craft that has some of the most annoying wards in the game
>a ward ignoring card

cygames is so fucking out of touch
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>>170439582
>tfw if it's not a storm, removal, or do everything card it's trash.
We've officially hit powercreep country. there's so much it's x but better in every way now.
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>>170439601
Who runs Monika outside of T2?
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>>170439589
Thanks to the guy that helped me.
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>>170439694
Less than a year at that.
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>>170439645
Maybe they should make commanders that dont suck dick then

>>170439694
its because there's so much fucking follower removal in the game now

you can't expect anything with 2 or less defense to last more than a single turn
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>>170439582
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. None of these cards look particularly interesting to play with and none of them seem likely to inspire fun new decks. Every one of them could just as easily have been printed in Rise of Bahamut. I'm honestly surprised they're still being this lazy, given how much money they made last year.
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>>170439564

It depends, I might run it if there's more good means to generate value off 1-drops like soul conversion.

In a deck about getting good topdecks (sometimes), using 12 1-drops is going to bone you in the long run.
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New cards added to the doc
>Beetle Warrior (Forest)
>Artillery Support (Sword)
>Academy Adept Ruu (Rune)
>Aqua Nereid (Dragon)
>Messenger of the Dead Moon (Shadow)
>Mist Shaman (Haven)
>Israfir (Neutral)
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>play the new amulet
>muh "do nothing" meme
>next turn everything becomes a better Dragon Warrior so you can gain back the tempo you lost
>Monika clears 3 followers
Sword is the petclass.
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>>170439589
Wow. beginner rank and yet you bought pre built. When did you start playing?
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>>170439735
Always bet on Monika!
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>>170438452
>NEUTRALCRAFT IS OFFICIALLY BETTER THAN DRAGONCRAFT
HIHIHIHUHHAHAHAAAAA HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR!!!!!1 HEHEHEHAAAA
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>>170439593
it is arguably better than dire bond because of it's tempo, it's also more useful late game. there's a lot of potential.

also followers that draw you cards are generally pretty good. and people will realize this more and more as the cardpool gets stronger/power creeped.
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>>170439798
>commanders that dont suck dick
>Frontguard
>Saber
>Walfrid
>Gawain
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>>170439169
We've been over this already.
This is Loki.
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>>170439806
They probably don't care about the metaphorical johny that needs decks with branching options, they want only timmy and spike that are okay with rigidly structured fast games that require no attention. The usual mobile game content that is.
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>>170439889
Gawain is an officer
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>>170439859
>DRAGONCRAFT
who?
i vaguely remember a craft like this existing...
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>>170439956
sez the docs he's a commander.
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>>170439916
That's captain jack sparrow
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>>170439468
Control sword has trouble versus other control decks This amulet should be safe to play against most of them. And if you play a meaty fucking commander the next turn then its just a giant tempo swing every turn or extra face damage.

The amulet has potential if sword can fill all the commander slots. Better than the other meme garbage other classes are getting.
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>>170439283
Okay, looks like i've read it wrong, i apologize.
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>>170439889
>control/midrange
>control/midrange
>control/midrange
>actually an officer

jeez man

why does aggro only run one commander?

really makes me think
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>that sword amulet

so havencraft is dead right? fucking trash class should go back to <5% playrate just like in standard
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>>170440008
That's wrong then. The gook site that leaked (?) it had it as an officer.
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>>170439582
>No new keywords, or abilities
Yea CyGames really needs to Adapt
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>everyone gets a tutor
Where's the fuck is my necromancy/last word tutor, Kikegames?
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>>170439564
>>170439821

Oh I forgot to mention, this card will be great for Atomy.

>Bard of no field destruction fanfare
>just slap a bunch of 1-drops down
>Atomy
>If they fucked up and you didn't need to spend all of your PP to flood the board, soul conversion to nutdraw into other copies of Atomy to play in the same turn.

Not to mention the fact that Atomy will get to ignore wards.
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>>170439870
being at 10 on turn 5 is a big deal too, using diabolic drain plus either wardrobe raider or righteous devil is a ridiculous tempo swing.

hopefully the other blood legendary will have a powerful vengeance effect to synergize with her but even if it doesn't i'd want to run her in my both my saha control and mary combo decks for added consistency.
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>>170439137
Looks similar to Cucuhlin
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>turn 1 plea
>turn 2 snake ward
>turn 3 no fun allowed ward
>turn 4 cuckgel
>turn 5 lion themis
>turn 6 themis
>turn 7 themis
>turn 8 seraph
>turn 9 aegis
>turn 10 baha
>turn 11 satan
>turn 12 reckoning
I hope you poor midrange bungas don't forget to tech your appropriate bricks
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>>170440029
It's okay anon. I apologize for being salty in my response, I play dragon and haven't had my eggs yet this morning.
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>>170440109
They powercreeped Ethereal Form, 1 less PP to kill with Tyrant + Ignore ward ability.
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>artillery support
>gawain is 3 damage to face if you don't have a board
>luminous lesbo is 2+2 damage
>albert is 3+3 damage to face
>frontguard is 5 damage to face

Commanderverse
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>>170440109
You already have a 5/5 body that tutors another 5/5, a removal, and a heal. Stop bitching.
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>Neutral leggo
>9pp 8/8
>Fanfare heal 4
>On attack, deal 2 to all enemies.
THIS FUCKING CARD

COMPARE THIS PIECE OF SHIT CARD TO FAFNIR AGSDFAADSRDSFSDGSAFAF
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What's your favorite of these new reveals and why, /svg/?

Personally excited for Mist Shaman. Definitely going in my well of destiny deck.
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>>170440040
This card is clearly meant to be used on Control/Midrange, retard. You don't run turn 5 do nothing on aggro, it's suicide, unless it wins you the game next turn or you can at least evolve it (Cerberus).
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>>170440298

Not all of us play nepnep anon.
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>>170439571
They are trying to create a commander archetype.
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>>170440187
I'm glad I got one from packs.

>>170440204
>turn 8 dickshift/elf OTK/other meme bullshit
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>>170440306
Saq got new best friend
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>>170439137
It's Lancer. Fate/GO collab confirmed.
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>>170440360
Friendship ended with Luci now Isra is my lesbian girlfriend
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>>170440326
Eidolon is not a meme anymore.
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>>170440412
Themis, bro.
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>>170438690
Yay ramp saha buff
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>>170440326
Absolutely not a single fucking one. But I play dragon, so... well, we got protein.
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>>170440306
Is Fafnir the most cucked card in SV?
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>>170438856
Judgement day soon, you won't cry from the despair any longer, Israfil. The 1000 year reign is coming. People will rejoice. You will rejoice in their happiness and love for God
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>>170440040
>aggro
>Why do they only run the only aggressive commander?
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>>170440326
I was hyped about Aegis, but when I see the other cards that got revealed, I'm pretty sure that Aegis will be a meme. I don't mind but I was hoping that Aegis would be viable. It'll probably be good in Elana, but I wanted to build around it like a Seraph deck.
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>every single card now has either storm or rush or gain+x/+x if you feel like it or deal damage to something
>cards that are literally X card we already have, BUT BETTER

Why are they doing this? All the fucking cards released so far are fucking boring. Nothing interesting or unique about the legos too, just everything a bronze card can do, but all in one package.
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>>170440306
>on attack

You realize the card doesn't have rush right? Still an unofficial Dragon card because of Saha potential though.

So glad we don't have to play our own class cards r-right bros?

>>170440360
>>170440407
The heal is fanfare so it doesn't work with saha. Only reason to play it with saha is for board clear + face damage.
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>>170440509
They're trying for yugi-oh 2.0
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>>170440491
Exactly.

Aggro has no other commanders worth running, so they run Albert.
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>>170440509
Cygames are running out of ideas.
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>>170440582
Then what's the point of your post?
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>>170440495
Oh, I meant the 8 or so that just got revealed. That's fine, though.

I'm sure it'll work if you make a deck around it. Surviving as haven isn't that hard with the tools available to them, unless you're fighting dshift.
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>>170440509
You can't keep people in a game without fresh op cards.
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>>170440407
>implying they aren't both part of his angelic harem
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>>170440509
daria is what happens when they get too creative

these cards seem more midrange-ish which I'm glad for
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>>170440620
>>170439645
>They definitely want to kill Albert-is-the-only-comm decks, yes.

Maybe they should kill it by making commanders aggro wants to actually use?
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>>170440468
Not excited about the new megalorca spawner? Neptunecraft is on its way!
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Satan cat is moe as fuck.
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>>170440292
>gawain

not a commander
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So, shadowbabs, remind me again why seraph, albert, prince, etc are allowed in arena?
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>>170440662
>>170440708

But they can at least try for something unique.
Look at something like Nep. It might be slightly meme tier but at least it was an original effect that spawned a number of decks.
I don't feel like the new legos will create something new, just make an already existing deck better.
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>>170440724
Heh. I wish.
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>>170440712
They are not trying to kill Albert aggro, they are trying to make a new deck based around commanders, that's why they made that amulet and Gawain.
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>>170440708
Daria's quite healthy atm. Maybe not perfect but she got closer to balanced state.
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>>170440772
nobody cares about arena
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Ranting/essay on why Dragon is shit

1. Many low-cost Dragon cards are weak at the start because they require Overflow. This means that before Overflow many cards are "2/2 No effect" for the same cost of cards from other decks that are "2/2 Effect". (Blood also suffers from the same problem with Vengeance instead of Overflow.)
2. Ramping cards are the opposite, useful at the start but useless after ramping. Aiela past ramping is just a more expensive Fighter. Dragon Oracle at 9pp is just "2pp Draw a card" when every single other craft (except Shadow but including Neutral) has a "2pp Draw a card + Effect" card.

The two points above mean that at any given time, Dragon has a bunch of useless cards. I suspect this is why Dragon as so many cards that discard your cards; since you always have a bunch of useless card, you might as well discard them.

3. Because ramping cards are weak, it is hard to ramp up while fighting the opponent. The exchange for this is playing strong cards earlier. Therefore, the philosophy of the class seems to be "A weak start with a strong finish". However, this doesn't work because ramping is a diminishing return. Ramping gives you a PP advantage, but PP is maxed at 10, so every turn the opponent is closing the PP gap.

Early game: Dragon ramps up, enemy gets board presence/face damage/sets up wincon (Spellboost/Fetching combo cards/etc.)
Midgame: Dragon has PP advantage, Opponent has board/health/wincon advantage. In a way this is "equality".
Endgame: Dragon loses PP advantage

At no point does Dragon actually have the advantage over the opponent, despite the early game being a complete disadvantage for them.
The only way I see to to fix these issues is to either give Dragon low-cost cards that both ramp and can establish board presence, or have high-cost cards that are stronger than those of other classes so they can recover from the early game disadvantage.

I emailed this to Cygames
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>>170440724
it's orca not megalorca
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>>170440772
>seraph, prince
just kill them before they kill you

>>170440812
>trying to reason with them
they just need another target after they "nerfed" daria and roach
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>>170440712
I'll tell that to cygames.
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>>170440879
>in arena
Thanks, shadowbab
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>>170440860
>why dragoncraft is shit
You don't need to explain, just "is shit" would be enough.
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>>170440812
That's dumb, it's like cygames went hey we have this class gimmick it's the synergy between officers and their commanders, how about we get rid of that and just make commanders solo powerhouses.
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>>170440772
Seraph is allowed because 8pp do nothing is a quick way to lose in a lot of arena games. This is also the answer for Satan.

Albert is allowed because literally nobody will have an evolve for his enhance effect, so he's basically genesis dragon or imp lancer.

>>170440876
It's megalorca. Orca is just the japanese name.
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Merlin. Never again.
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>>170440860
How to fix dragon:

Allow a different craft to use Forte both leader and card.
Delete dragon.
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>>170440916
all my 5-0 were aggressive tempo decks that topped at 6 or 7 pp

playing nothing on turn 9 or 10 meant death for the opponent
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>>170440965
Commanders, especially gold/legos, have always been solo power houses, ever since Otohime and Aurelia in the Standard set.
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>>170440965
The problem is

commanders are followers

and in the meta right now, you cant expect anything with 2 or less defense to last more than a single turn (in some cases, even 3 or less defense, with cards like blitz lancer and blackened scripture).

aggro sword and aggro blood are pretty much the same, neither deck relies on their trait to win games, as their traits are shit for aggro.
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Predict Tempest of Cocks tier1 decks.
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>>170440341
How lucky, I had to craft 3 of mine.
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Where's the Earthrite support?
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>>170440860
this is a nice trade off for having 7 mana while your opponent has to work with 4
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>>170440965
The class gimmick allows diversity because the cards can be used in different ways, they are strong by themselves but their traits allow you to do various combos.
Unlike Blood where the cards are fucking shit and the class gimmick is mandatory to do fucking anything
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>cat finally discovers the joy of a working dirt deck

To bad it shits itself more than you'd like.
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The bug strikes again.
Thanks for 9th win streak unga sword.
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This is your new Undying Lord. Pay him tribute.
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>>170441131
Aggro Shadow might be pretty high.

I figure alot of people will be replacing their skeleton knights with that 1/1 give a follower ward ignore, and that'll probably win alot of games.
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>>170441131
ill do class instead,

sword
shadow
forest
dragon=blood
haven
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>>170441131
aggro sword, midrange sword, tempo rune, dshift rune
hmm... sounds familiar...
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>>170441252
>dragon better than haven
Can I have some of those drugs you're taking?
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>>170441158
Halo Golem :)
That 9pp reduce everything to 0 is playable too maybe.
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>tfw PREPARE FOR THE FEET
what did he mean by this?
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>>170441252
rune same with forest btw
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>>170441158
if we don't get a ER legend finisher I'm gonna be mad
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>>170441158
Proably the same as rob, they showed one card to pretend they care and will now feed daria and dshift with more bullshit.
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>>170441158
Apparently one mediocre bronze is more than enough.

Fuck you too, Cygames.
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>>170441131
Aggro shadow, D-Shift, Mid Range Sword (even after nerf), maybe Daria tempo.
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Breath of the Manamander
Dragoncraft
3pp deal 3 damage to a target enemy follower

enhance(6) deal 5 damage to target enemy follower and 3 damage to all other enemy followers
gain 1 pp orb
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>>170441223
Is he worth sharing the 7 slot with Khawy in Nep decks?
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>>170441223
this card is blatantly overpowered and if shadow gets any early game tempo plays at all midrange shadow will be tier 1
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>>170441240
Literally a better Etherial form.
RIP cute girl.

That said, Tyrant decks that can blow their load on turn 6 with Midnight haunt for a Tyrant in case the opponent doesn't have ward or 7 if he does, then play another tyrant turn 10 with the 0 cost girl might be a thing now.
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>>170441223
what game is that?
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>>170441296
ramp shits on both seraph and sun decks

storm is a meme
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>>170441476
No. Guaranteed destroy + heal is too powerful.
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>>170441168
This is not a trade off, I already explained this. Your "PP advantage" is an illusion because your opponent has board advantage and health advantage (And a card avantages because you now have a bunch of useless ramp cards while all the opponent's cards are good). You then use your PP "advantage" to try to close the gap but in reality, you use your cards to reduce their advantage, while they use their cards to keep their advantage AND passively close your PP advantage. So in you're never at an advantageous position, you're either in a worse position than them or temporarily in an equal position.
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>>170441476

>4/5 bane ward or the death of your opponent's best follower and a heal

Really tough decision here.
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>>170441476
No.

Too bad it's another 7 cost, so even in midrange decks you gotta decide between it, Hector, Kamura and LotF and I REALLY want to play LotF again.
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>>170440860
I really believe CyGames is trying to be creative and explore the realm of things you can do with some of their mechanics like ramping, nercromancy, vengeance, etc.. At the same time, the mechanics they've settled on for Sword and Rune is just having strong followers and spells respectively. Every card they get looks strong in a vacuum because those crafts require the least amount of set-up to pull off.

Compare Eachter to Wailfred. Pooling the Shadows needed to make Eachter valueable is much harder than having enough Officers in play to make Wailfred valuable.
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Concede to me.

80998
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>>170441223
>play this guy
>you now have a guaranteed 3 shadows and a field for possible lethal with eachtar
>even if they all got wiped you'll still have a 0pp wight king for eachtar to work with
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I hate playing daria and OTK roach. I'm glad I am playing elena seraph now.
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>>170441223
>you will never have a full skeleton/undead deck because Cerberus exists

it hurts
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>>170441131

Aggro Shadow
Dick shift
"Midrange" sword
Some residual Daria
Maaaaaybe some kind of Wolf-Bolt
Neptitties


Haven and Dragon are kill.
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>>170441630
It was always obvious that Rune and Sword were made for casuals that dont want to think
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>>170441630
That's a fancy way of saying other crafts suck. "Aren't these fancy mechanics cool? By the way, we won't let them be good." Overflow, Vengeance, and to a lesser extent stuff like Necromancy are more often drawbacks than they are bonuses.
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>20 gold mission
>replace
>win 1 match with dragon
>2 hours later
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>>170441525
Rage of bahamut
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>>170441749
Elves truly are the best.
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>>170441630
You can just combo death's breath with Eachtar a turn earlier than walfrid and basicaly finish the game/gain board control

The point is that by the time sword can even drop walfrid for 8pp and have a good enough board to make use of his effect they have probably already won the game, it's just a winmore.

Whereas eachtar brings his own board with him
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>>170441825
>It was always obvious that Rune and Sword were made for casuals that dont want to think
Obviously you haven't tried d-shift deck, my friendo.
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>>170441131
Aggro bats/Dorothy and aggro "mid" sword at first then Dshift, some kind of retarded roach/beetle elf deck then something sword again.

Basically a repeat.
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>>170441859
Yea I didn't mean to be vague. Sword and Rune are the best crafts because you don't gi,p yourself to achieve your goal.
Haven and Dragon have to spend the early game doing nothing
Shadow's minions only gain value on death
Blood needs to put itself into OTK range
Forest is actually not bad, just not as good as the other two.
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>>170441408
>nerf
What fucking nerf?
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>>170441885
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>>170441131
Some dank memer will try make Belph/Soul Dealer nonsense work and fail. Owl of Balance actually makes neutralcraft a thing.
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Classes Tier for Next Expansion

Good Classes Tier:
Sword
Shadow
Rune
Forest

Dumpster Tier:
Haven
Blood

A Fucking Egg Tier:
Dragon
>>
Is there an easy way to find which Rage of Bahamut card a card is based on? I'm trying to find the art for Ginger but can't seem to locate her.
>>
why are we here
just to suffer?
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>>170442037
The most popular swordcraft deck will be nerfed in a month.

source: my nostradamus ass
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>>170442153
t. dragoncraft player
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>>170442021
Problems with stuff like shadows, sigils and pp is that yous till can't fucking control it because Cygames decided so.
It will open up so much more play opportunities if they'd just give us the option.

>oponent has 2 hp dude
>want to play undying resentment
>it will automatically eat shadows
>I'll be at 5 shadows next turn because I can't death breath if I play it
>don't
>guy drops something else that sticks on the board and allows him to cyclone all my zombies

That's just one example out of many. Playing anything that requiring a sigil when you only have 1 just to trade on turn 4 is basically suicide because you're forever late on pp.
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>>170442192
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>>170441887
thanks
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>80% winrate in 30 games
>dont want to play that game anymore due to those juicy stats

doushio
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>>170442092
Haven needs cost reduction to be viable again.
Blood needs a different mechanic altogether.
Dragon should just play neutral cards.
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>>170441885
if you just put ramp cards in and huge minions you will win by brute force. in unranked you can just quit if your hand is still shit on turn 2 to save time from the inevitable loss
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>>170442106
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The new blood lego is fake right?
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>>170442280
Neee, oni-chan, asobo!
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>>170441627

>lotf

Fly King only lives in our dream, anon.
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I fear Shadowverse is reaching Curveverse
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It baffles me that 3 expansions later DShift will still be relevant.
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I'm a main haven,blood and dragon.

if this expansion sword,forest trio keep in their high throne i will be part of the most cancerous deck netdeck ever.
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>>170440509
Maybe once they run out of Rage of Bahamut art they'll start making actual expansions with themes and new mechanics and stuff

Because this is honestly just embarrassing
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>>170442459
It will never not be relevant until it is nerfed (which won't happen).
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which is the best waifu of the cards revealed so far?
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>ambling wraith
>wolf
>yurius
>dire bond
>vengeance

what the fuck is this shit
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>>170442280
what deck? what rank?
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>>170440407
>now
Always was.
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>>170442458
But Daria/Dragon and sword won't use curve anymore.
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>LET'S GIVE D-SHIFT A MAID TO FETCH SPELL BOOSTCARDS!

if they don't print a d-shift counter this expansion I swear to god...
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>>170442419
Appreciated, but would you mind letting me know where you got it or how you found it? I assume she has a different name in Rage of Bahamut.
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>>170442092
Dragon
Shadow
Sword
Rune?
Blood
Forest?
Haven

Going by what has been released so far and we've yet to see the forest or dragon legendaries Depending on what is released for Dragon we may see Albert/Daria levels of whining.
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>>170442539

Too bad she's just a Desert Rider.
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>>170442616
Watch them give it to Dragon.

(I'm joking, it will be Forest.)
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>Like Dragon
>Like Haven
>Like Rune
>These card reveals so far
At least that new spellboost draw seems great for Dshift. If rune ever stops being good I'm outta here.
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>all those 4pp legos

How long before we are getting 2pp and 1pp neutral legos?
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>>170442514
They have enough art to last them years.
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>>170442646
is this list your perceived strongest to weakest? are you being forreal?
if it is, i'd actually like to know your reasoning
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>>170442646
>he thinks a dragon leggo will be good
Anon, do yourself a favor and look at what they got in DE and RoB (i.e, the other sets released so far)
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FUCKING ME FROM THE SKIES?
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>forest now can get a 3PP 3/4 Storm if they combo

Nice game, shadowbabs
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>>170442687
We have 3PP lego from standard. Problem?
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>cygames still pushing vengeance when everyone and their mothers can whip out +10 burst out of their ass.

why...
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>>170442731
I almost want them to be discard related just for the shitstorm.
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>>170442637
Google the weebname since they always use the same names メネスワーズ・ジンジャー
Pick the first semi-decent thumbnail and google image search or iqdb it to find a larger image.
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>>170442656
Stop it with the Desert Rider meme.
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>>170442616
>d-shift counter
Tempo? Aggro?
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>>170442787
I don't think that would cause a shitstorm. We'd all just shrug, having expected the trash. Now if dragon got something playable, THAT would be the shitstorm.
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>>170442459
As long as control exists, Dshift will.
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How much Master Points do I need for my opinion to be relevant?
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>forest lego
>6 mana
>2/3 -> 2/3
>evolve: search your deck for two forestcraft cards and reduce their cost by 1.
It's going to happen eventually and you know it. Cygames has heard our suffering these past two weeks and won't let it continue.
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>>170442898
>reduce their cost by 1
or
>reduce their cost to 1
?
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>>170442874
>thinking your opinion is relevant
>on an anonymous message board
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>>170442789
add RoB,Bahamut or 神撃のバハムート to your search if it's some generic name that might be more popular in something else
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Is the uncensor in the OP updated for post patch or do I just do it myself?
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>>170442874
Higher than the people who say that your opinion is irrelevant.
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>>170442789
Hm, good point. But I was also trying to figure out what Rage of Bahamut card she was based on. Nobody by the name of Ginger is showing up anywhere, which makes me wonder if she's a completely new entity or just a renamed card.
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>>170442646
One will be "lord of the megalorcas" and it will flood the board with megalorcas.
When he dies he will leave an amulet that spawns meglarocas every turn.
Can't wait to use the new megalorca meme.
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20279
concede pls
rematch if you want one too
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Why can't Cygames just give blood a follower with drain and rush effect? How come these two effects are mutually exclusive?

Only that token that spawns from lord of the flies have those two effects.
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>>170442724
My reasoning is:

Aina is a solid storm card to add to Dragon's already solid storm cards and Zell gives Dragon a potential turn 9 albert finisher without the invincibility but dragon can reach turn 9 much faster than their opponents so that it becomes much more oppressive.

Hear the Hydra's roar.
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Dear anons. It took me three long months but my journey is at end. Alberto carried me all the way through AA3 but I wouldn't done that without your advices and decks. Thank you guys. It was a fun. Now I can finally play some other games.
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>>170442993
>when the best drain follower is not in the class thats supposed to specialize in drain, but in the class that does literally the opposite of draining life
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>>170443002
9 pp not turn my mistake
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>>170442993
Executioner's Axe :^)
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>>170442964
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/d/%8E%D2%8E%C8%8E%BD%8E%DC%8E%B0%8E%BD%8E%DE%8E%A5%8E%BC%8E%DE%8E%DD%8E%BC%8E%DE%8E%AC%8E%B0%20(%8E%DA%8E%BC%8E%DE%8E%AA%8E%DD%8E%C4%8E%DE)
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>>170441630
Simpler way of explaining it:

Sword has good cards. The Officer/Commander mechanic is a BONUS, not mandatory.
Overflow and Vengeance are MANDATORY because the cards that use those effects are dogshit without it.

ALL YOU NEED IS CARDS THAT ARE ALREADY GOOD AND GET STRONGER WITH THE MECHANIC. This is how Sword cards are. While Rune and Forest may have the mechanic be mandatory too, the synergy of those cards is WELL BEYOND the synergy in Dragon or Blood cards. In fact Dragon card have no synergy whatsoever. Dragon can't combo for shit despite having such high PP because none of the card's effect work well together, ramp cards are useless when you ramped up, Overflow cards are useless before ramping up, and all the good cards cost too much to combo, so to let them combo they give you a bunch of cards that reduce the cost of your other cards, except you already wasted time ramping up so now you waste more time to reduce your cost then you lose the game before doing the combo, and the only card that reduces your card fast enough not only costs 5pp but it also reduce the cost of your opponent's card.

It's no surprise that Discard, Nep and Aggro Blood are so popular among players of those classes: Discard ignores Overflow, Nep ignores Necromancy and Blood tries to kill you before its mechanic kills them.
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>>170442898
Fucking idiot
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>>170443002
Imagine being this deluded.
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>>170443040
kys swordshitter
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>>170442964
Names used in the english version aren't the original most of the time.
Vania is Vampy, Khawy is Kamura, Daria is Dorothy, etc.
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>>170442993

It's Drain and Storm, though.
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>>170443002
Aina is a terrible storm card. She has anti-synergy with her role (i.e she requires a full board, something storm dragon never has, or the enemy to have a full board, in which case storming their face is just going to have you die before them). Have you actually played dragon, or did you just assume Aina is a good card because she has storm?
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>>170442978
thanks dandy vampy
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>Fanfare: Evolve the next follower you play.

neat
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>>170443040
>other games

There are no fun games left, this is only milldly more entertaining than doing nothing
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>>170443040
congrats man
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>>170443128
yea that's a much better way of wording it. Sword gets by without relying on a mechanic.
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>>170442993
just limil any storm/rush follower :3
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guys

guys

sword's 2nd legendary hasn't even been revealed yet
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>>170443346
What are the odds it has storm?
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>>170443385
And enhance.
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>>170443385
Rush and deal damage to enemy leader equal to attack.
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Trebla , Levin Sickle
5PP
2/6 Storm

Enhance (9)

Can attack 3 times. ward
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>>170443346
more hyped for forest
the only decks they have are built around a meme bolt, a poor man's otohime into sage commander, and a turn 12 win condition that gets ruined by bahamut
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>>170442459
>Combo deck with no counterplay other than killing them faster
Dshift was a mistake but Cygames will never do anything about it because they want to promote fast games.
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>4 PP PUT YOURSELF INTO ALBERT RANGE!

masterful.
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>>170443481
this sounds like something they might actually print, dont even joke about this
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>currently 46% over 8 days

We might be getting a full leak in another week.
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What should I put in my 3slot for Midsword besides 3 Novice Troopers and 3 Blitz Lancers?

Currently I have 2 Forge Weaponry which works nicely most of the time but if I keep it during mulligan for the curve play it can completely brick my hand if my 2-drop got removed/no Quickblader on board
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>>170443002
Dragon looks quite scary to be honest.

Everybody completely forgot about Zeus and Wrath Drake. You don't need to run Satan because Zeus allows you to be aggressive without being killed by retarded Ward combos.

We all ignore Israfil because "muh Fafnir powercreep" and "fuck neutraldragoncraft". Israfil is a board clear machine that heals you for 4 on fanfare. She's Lucifer on steroids. I'm wondering if she powercreeps Lucifer or if she will played alongside him. You can drop Saha/Luci on T7, Luci on T8, and Israfil on T9. It's a fucking nightmare for an aggressive deck. And let's not talk about the eggs.
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>>170443346
pls be a non shit board recovery
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is there any way to make control forest work?

their draw sucks, their heal sucks, and they only have one decent ward.

is forest cursed to combo memery forever?
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I want to win with rune but don't want to play dshift or daria
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Finally got to A1. Can't wait to get to masters and just use meme decks
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you guys
they haven't revealed even one of shadow's SILVERS
i'm legit scared
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>>170443119
Yep, already found this. Still cannot find the card on any English website. Were there Japanese-only Rage of Bahamut cards?
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>>170443702
Play Dirtmemes
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>>170443617
People forgot about dragon because it is already dead in the meta. Altering its late-game cards doesn't change anything. It is hard countered by shadow. This is not changing (so far). It gets beat down by aggro fairly regularly when it bricks. It feeds off Daria. It is hard countered by D Shift, like every other control deck.

Zeus doesn't do shit for any of those matchups, Wraith is just more AoE it already had. The body is nice, but will not drastically change any matchups.
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>>170443506
>their draw sucks, their heal sucks, and they only have one decent ward.

??????
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>>170443617
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>>170443702
You can try playing Dirt. With a strong emphasize on "try".
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>>170443702

got you senpai
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>>170443542
Maybe they're pushing the release up to beat HS?
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>>170443572
>What should I put in my 3slot for Midsword besides 3 Novice Troopers and 3 Blitz Lancers?

you should kill youself
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New leaks from the gooks:

Gottfried
Sword Silver
1PP
2/1 Storm
At the end of your turn, put this card back in your hand.


Divine Blessing
Haven Gold
3PP amulet, countdown 2.
At the start of your turn, choose a card from your hand and reduce cost by 2.

Kraken
Dragon Legendary
11PP
12/20
Rush, Drain

Grave Raider
Shadow Silver
3PP 1/1
Ward
Last words: Gain 6 shadows.
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>>170443749
>>170443630
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>>170443770
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>>170443786
>reno dirt
dude nice
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>>170443848
if anyone actually falls for these leaks i'll have lost all my faith in this board's intelligence
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>>170443848
Low effort, apply yourself
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>>170443848
>2/1 for 1

Has to be fake.
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>>170443848
>Gottfried
>Sword Silver
>1PP
>2/1 Storm
>At the end of your turn, put this card back in your hand.
Sounds fake as fuck
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>>170443506
it's going to be legit
I can feel it
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>>170443848
I dont believe you people anymore
It is not real unless I see english twitter screenshot
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>>170443848
>Gottfried
Literally quickblader but better

You know they'll print it one day, right?
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>>170443786
What a fucking terrible deck. Stay in Rank B1
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>>170443721
>2-3pp silver
>necromancy (6-8): "target allied follower cannot be destroyed until the end of next turn"

Calling it now because that's the only way Minthe will be good
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>>170443848
>that sword card

bullshit
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>>170443306
Nah. I'm pretty sure this will be much harder than reaching master rank in SV.
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>>170443502
otk is still good
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>>170443925
If Dragon has an 11PP leggo I'll laugh forever.
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>>170443848
>11 pp
kek
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More new leaks:

Fafnir's Egg
Dragon Gold
5PP Amulet
At the start of your turn, if Overflow is active, add a Fafnir to your hand.
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remember when we judged this card based on faulty translation?
good times yesterday
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They literally don't printed any good blood card in TOg
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>>170444119
what a fucking shit card

i can deal with damage to your own follower but 2+ buffs to enemy follower as well?

what the fuck were they thinking
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>>170444086
it's tutorable into 10pp :^)
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>>170444098
With cavalier you can play it on turn 9.

Is dragon saved?

>>170444119
yeah she's actually shit.
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>>170442656
Goddamn she's cute. I NEED to fucking draw her from a pack for the emblem.
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>>170444179
They will never make a good Jeanne
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>>170444179
more like

BLACKED jeanne
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>doubting the carrots

He used Olivia thats why he has 3 evos
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>>170444216
you wanna be a cute girl?
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>>170444119
I'm still mad about those KR reveals. We need a full day to figure out what is EXACTLY written on a card. I mean, it seems that they didn't show the card for Gawain so I can understand the confusion around this one, but Dark Jeanne's reveal was irritating.
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>>170444109
Lovely, another 5PP do nothing card even when JO Crystal exists.
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>>170444179
The idea is that only shit on your side survives because you have low attack high health followers.
In reality you will never have a board because you are haven so you only play her when she clears the enemy board.
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>>170443702
Try this.
You can add timeless witches or Remi/rami if you want.
You can replace the removal cards with whatever.
Everything above 7pp is fair play. You can just do whatever.

I went through like 6-7 iterations of this deck already just changing things around. Your core is basically Levi/dwarf/calamity/petrefication/Taboo and 6-9 sigils.
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As a new player, should I wait for the new card or should I buy card right now?
>>
card game noob here
tried to play through the story with just the default cards, no packs or anything.
Went well until pic related. My first loss (obliterated me 0-20)
Tried to avoid deck building cause i'm not really good at it or know what to look for.
Any advice what to consider or maybe even what to specifically craft?
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dragon is now egg tier
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>>170444119

>haven's followers generally have more defense
>somehow this is bad

Stop playing that 2/1 falcon, perhaps.

>b-but buffs on enemies

Not if they are dead.
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>Fanfare: Evolve all followers.
>Evolve abilities will not activate for those followers.
>Whenever a follower is played, evolve it.
>Evolve abilities will not activate for that follower.
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>>170443943
I'm the first one to hate Vampy emote spamming but I hope the spammed the fuck out of that smug forest cunt.
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>>170444371
The chapters after 9 are new and are to some degree balanced around people who have been playing for a while
Play the game until you have a real deck (i.e one you can play on ladder and win games) before doing them if you find them too hard, the rewards aren't spectacular anyway
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35400
Concede pls
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>>170444109
EGGsecutioner
Dragon Leggo
10PP
10/10
Fanfare: Gain Storm and +10/+10 if you've eaten 10 eggs this game.
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>>170444450
BRRRRRRRAAAAAAAPPPPP
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>>170443630
>control
How you gonna end the games?
I guess you can put neutral saha-luci-odin-baha-satan package, but why would you do that as forest. Glimm wings and fairy beast are fine, though theyre forcing you to combo memery, just like lots of other forest cards.
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>170444371
skip until you have a budget deck for that craft
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>>170444371
Copy netdecks
Figure out why those netdecks are good while playing them
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>>170444510
stop this
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>>170444371

forest, necro and sword got three new chapters what are markedly more difficult than the rest.

finish the other stories first.
>>
check this meme

ginger with archangel reina
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>>170444371
I hope you rerolled your 50ish free packs untill you got a handfull of legos to build up a couple decks for your most liked crafts, or else enjoy struggling in the first weeks.
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>>170444510
Don't brap me and join up
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>>170444119
I never judged her based on that.

She's good anyway. THE 6 drop against aggro, if they even managed to rebuild the field after Lion.
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>>170444371
The new chapters 9-11 they added for three leaders are probably something you shouldn't try until you actually have a decent set of cards. They've got significantly stronger decks than the old story missions.
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>>170444353
depends of your collection.
do you need a lot of shit?
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>>170443630

>Gigas, Fairy Beast

What are you insinuating?
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>>170444371
Look for budget net decks on gamepress or game-ai

you should also look up a re-roll guide until you have a nice amount of good legendaries from the free packs, but only if your account is fresh and it doesn't set you back in progress.
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>>170444576
I haven't touched anything they gave me yet except adding 2 cards i got from the forestcraft chapters.
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Im B rank and literally every opponent that I face is Runecraft

does this ever change at other ranks or am I forced to tech every deck against rune?
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>>170444119
>can't be used with storm birds
>can't be used if any enemies will survive
>doesn't assist Elana
>doesn't provide extra/unique defense for sun

What is the purpose of this card? Darkness Evolved killed any hope of Haven getting actual fun new cards.
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>>170444353
wait for new cards
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>>170444647
Have you opened the FREE packs you've got in the crate on main menu?
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>>170443718
LOL
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>>170444594
I managed to get a good sword deck so no
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>MORE fucking cards to kill myself
HOW ABOUT CARDS THAT FUCKING HEAL ME ENOUGH SO I CAN USE VENGEANCE WITHOUT LOSING THE GAME
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>>170444450
Thanks anon
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>>170443630
http://game-ai.jp/25377/
17 win streak in Masters with this control forest deck
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>>170444696
>every opponent is rune
Welcome to Shadowverse, enjoy your stay
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>>170444773

be honest anon, how many of those games were won by roaching?
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>>170444721
Nope. Planned on saving everything until i get stuck, which i am now unless i move to a different story.
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>>170444574
The faster people stop trying to justify this irredeemable trash the better.
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>>170444696
Runecraft is a cheap and effective class you'll always see them at any rank

Less frequent in AA and master though
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>>170444119
i am having a hard time imagining a scenario where she would be useful

that bufff enemy follower was fucking retarded
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>>170444915
Open the packs (all of them) and post results here.
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>>170444915
Chapters 9 to 11 were added recently, they are very difficult for a new player, you shouldn't attempt them unless you have a good deck.
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>>170444696
desu you shpuld be facing sword and not rune.

just unlucky bro

>>170444740
So you should save desu a lot of things can change and don't forget about the sleeve event
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>>170434813
>best girl is dominating
sasuga /svg/
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>>170444889
All.
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>>170444574
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>>170444773
n streak or x wins in y games in the headlines are the sign of a shit deck
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>>170444740
Well, you're gonna need the cards from standard / earlier expansions sooner or later. Standard has the biggest card pool so you're always gonna buy the most of those.
Only reason to wait is because the expansion will shake up what's good so that might change your decision which packs you open.
If you only just are starting it doesn't really help you to save up for the new expansion since you're still lacking other cards.

>>170444915
Open the packs now, check the OP guide about rerolling. If you unpack hot garbage you might want to reroll anyways so you wasted your story progress.
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>>170444934
i'm not trying to pretend it's a good card

but i think it's an interesting card, and hopefully it supports rune decks that aren't the standard dshift / dirt / daria

>>170445056
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>>170444574
Already been proposed. Ginger, Reina, Lucifer x3
Alternatively: Ginger, Reina, Mushussu x3
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>>170445096
Wait, reroll = make a new account? or...? O.o
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I just want to watch the ToG trailer. C'mon Cygames, release the trailer already.
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>>170445065
How? I could understand if the streak was low or the sample size was small but what's inherent about the wording?
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>>170444696
today's stats at A2
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He played another one on turn 8 and decked himself out.
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>>170445146
Read the OP links.
Open your packs now, there is no reason not to.
Post your legendaries / golds here.
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>>170445136
>Already been proposed. Ginger, Reina, Lucifer x3
Wouldn't give you Satan Cards.

>Alternatively: Ginger, Reina, Mushussu x3
three 8/2 Mushussu is a nice meme though
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>>170445146
Yes.

if they are shit you have the option of rerolling starting a fresh account and opening up the packs again for a chance at better cards and more legendaries.
>>
Sorry guys. I started playing not long ago (still in C1), and I was wondering if Dragonplayers really were all nice. I just won against one that used Phoenix Roost to pull out a early Bahamut, then almost won by top decking Satan followed by the 8 attack Storm dude, but he lost because he attacked my weakest follower.

Not my 4 atk one, that would have saved him for another turn.
Not my face, that would have made him win.

Are Dragoncrafters always the nicest players?
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>>170444773
tfw I have no tias or odins
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>>170445146
Yes. Use android emulation and open the free packs before anything.
After being sure you got enough good legendaries you can start playing the game.
Its like any mobage.
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>>170445256
ugh fuck my life i should've come here sooner. Will i be able to get the same account name atleast?
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>>170445251
>Wouldn't give you Satan Cards.
What?
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>>170445236
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>>170445269
Yes, dragon bros are looking out for the new players. Join us by crafting a ramp dragon list right now.
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>>170445146
Don't feel like you HAVE to do it.
It can let you create specific decks faster, but it's no big deal if you don't want to spend time rerolling.
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>>170445251
Lucifer is not Satan
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>>170445192
>Dragoncraft: 100%
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>>170445269
Suffering breeds kind souls.
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>>170438690
>Israfil

Looks like more fun cards for my totally not memedeck Saha Elana.
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>>170445347
You can chance the name whenever you want
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>>170445350
>>170445389


Aaand I'm retarded.
Amazing board then, instawin if they can't wipe it.
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>>170445269
Rowens are nice, Fortes aren't.
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>>170445410
Who suffers more, dragon or blood?
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Help me improve my dick, swordbros.
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>>170445269
Dragons are the real human beans
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So why would you even play Servant of the Dead Moon? 1/1 dies to literally everything and for 2PP and 4 Shadow, you can add +2/+0 to the buffed follower.
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>>170445627
hang yourself
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>>170445410
What the fuck happened in that gif?
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>>170445626
Dragon, blood at least has bats.
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>>170445626
Blood still has aggro for dailies.
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>>170445643
mmmm nice meme xD
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>>170445626
>>170445664
>>170445667

Blood sufer less.

they have suicide cards.
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>>170445417
You know, Saha-Isra combo and Aegis might bring Elana back.
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>>170445626
What's worse, being killed by your enemy or killing yourself?
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>>170445627
less cyclone blades and more tsubakis
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>>170445731
Sudoku is the honorabre way.
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>>170445656
He's the trashman. You don't know Rowen?
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>>170445656

Wrestling for the Troops, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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>>170445347
I didn't reroll because I didn't want to waste time playing RNG simulator when I could just play the game and grind more packs in the meantime, also I found out too late .
Whatever, now I'm sitting pretty at top 2k masters with 95% of all cards while having spent less than 10€.
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>>170434813
Where did all these dorklovers come from?
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>>170445627
more commanders
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>>170436776
source
>>
>wake up
>see the new cards
>Academy Adept Ruu is a Maid leader for spellboost
>Magic Blade is basically a Blade Mage for 1 more mana (like it matters, since it's in "cheap cantrips and draw: the class") and needs a body that can attack already on the field, but also spellboosts your hand.
>Daria might just be even better
>can't wake up
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*blocks your path*
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>>170445752
Can't afford more leggos, sadly.

>>170445828
Which ones? Otohime is a meme.
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trying out new deck, 51798 join and let's play.
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>>170434813
The real question is why isn't Rowen an option? Because everyone would vote for him and it just wouldn't be fair?
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>>170445627
Get rid of Mentors Teachings and Quickbladers.

Add another Aurelia and Maid Leader. Get rid of one Cyclone Blade. Consider adding either 2 Floral Fencers or 2 Amelias. Finally, add 2 Leonidas.
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>>170444773
That luna bullying video is fun. Deck lacks board wipes, wotf bit too weak and hand reliant.
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>>170445876
*rapes*
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>>170445876
*erodes your dam*
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>tfw Forest is hard to see in ranked nowdays

Will the next expan save the Arisa, bros?
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>>170445876
*impregnates with my dong*
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That new Blood lego is gonna be great in Aggro, the deck had literally no draw before and can now afford to swap Imp Lancer for Dark General.
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>>170446057
The new ward that heals is a really solid card. We may have to wait to see the legos.
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>>170446070
>turn 4 do nothing and help the opponent kill you faster
>good in aggro
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>>170446057

No, you forestfuckers need to stay down to feel the smell of dirt as everyone steps on you. Just like how Shadow has.
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>>170446070
>4pp do nothing
>aggro
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>>170446057
That's because nobody cares about Arisa, only roach. That's why people abandoned her to play stormmam instead.
Luna and Vampy players are loyal at least.
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>>170445956
I used to have Amelia but she isn't that good so I removed her.

Teachings are great for extra damage+draw and cost just 1 instead of Maid's 2.
I considered adding Floral but she needs an evo point to be useful and I can't really afford it.

I'll add Leos when I finally get a copy, though.


>>170446070
Have you ever played aggro?
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>>170446259
>do nothing

It's 4pp kill yourself, anon.
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>>170446057
Wolfbolt still works alright, I'm just avoiding ranked in general until the next set since these sleeves aren't worth it. Gold ward is good, butler dude and storm beetle are playable. Depends on the legends opening up new decks though.
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>>170446259
>he thinks going to 10 on turn 4 making it easier for Albert to jizz all over you on 5 is nothing
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>>170446057
Rare though she may be, she is not weak.

Forest is still the best performing class at masters and is still getting good cards for no fucking reason.
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>>170445876
Speaking of path blocking...
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>>170442423
Look forward to whatever support Cygames will provide. Top quality health control on the way, hope and believe
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The red name tinted names in the google doc are unofficial translations right? Just find it amusing that the "Owl of Balance" is a 4 mana 7/7 for neutral craft.

>inb4 4 mana do nothing
>inb4 dies to removal

I mean sure, but sometimes a big enough pile of stats early enough is good enough to tip the scales. Not saying it's broken, or even good right now, but it could be something to watch in the future.
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>>170446028
>>170446069
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>>170445890
Was fun, thanks for the game
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>>170445890
thanks for playing.
>>
>two magazine issues
>showcased an egg in one
>showcased a 3PP 1/1 that summons a 2/2 in another

Why do they hate Dragon that much?
>>
>>170443728
iRoB died by the time she was released
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>>170446626
At this point I feel like it's not hate so much as active bullying, Cygames is getting sexual satisfaction out of this
>>
>>170446576
Neturalcraft will be legit decent for getting dailies done with any craft. Maybe not in ranked, but more than decent enough for unranked.
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>>170446376
>>170446420
i meant "nothing useful"
>>
>>170446576

Yellow tint are cards with deciphered ruletext waiting for english cards while red tint are cards with an ambigious one since they are from gooks.
>>
What decks counter runecraft in general? I don't care if it's not meta and sucks, I've had enough of this fucking class.
>>
>>170446809

Aggro Shadow beats two of the three hydra heads, so that's your best bet.
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>>170446721
You should add it to the google doc, I was wondering about that as well.
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>>170446856
Thanks
>>
>>170446809
>What deck counters a class that has decks that counter combo with aggro, aggro with ward spam and control with dim shift
>>
>>170446626
>the only turn 1 play dragon has is bad
>3/3 stats across two bodies for 3PP is bad

Now I've seen everything.
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>>170446439
Always fun.
Good thing he didnt have garuda in hand.
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>>170446379
>Forest main
Im only doing daily in unranked
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>>170446916
t. cygames
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>>170444973
>>170445249
The stuff that i got.
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>>170446809
>Dshift
Aggro Blood, Albert Sword, anything that wins before turn 8 consistently

>Daria
Control Blood, most Haven, basically anything with a big board clear that can handle a Daria bomb, or which moves so fast it can ignore the Daria bomb and win (which is hard)
>>
>>170446927
Good thing he had Godsteel Wings on board.
>>
>>170446809
>aggro decks beat D-Shit but get wrecked by Dirt
>control decks can do well against Daria but autolose to D-Shit
>Midrange loses to Daria and is 50/50 against Dirt and D-shit depending on the speed of the deck and their draws
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>dirt vs haven goes till turn 30
why did i not concede at turn 15 where i knew i already lost
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>>170446916

>while neutral gets a 9PP 8/8 that heals for 4 and board clears whenever it attacks
>while shadow put out 3 bodies for 7PP and get one if the head dies
>while rune gets more cancer to their decks

There you go.
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i swear to god the way you guys talk about "do nothing" cards, they could print a 4 pp 9999/9999 and you people would still say it's a shitty "4 pp do nothing"
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>>170447067
>cblood heavy
I'm so sorry anon.
>>
>silver bolt
>it's gold
uh, shadowbabs?
>>
>>170447162
Tribunal next turn lmao
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>>170447162
If the card does not grant tempo advantage in this game, it does nothing
Sorry buddy, but that is reality of SV
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>>170447162
It dies to removal.

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
>>
>>170446916

>bringing a toaster to a science fair

At least it's better than a handmade clock.
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>>170447162
>4pp 9999/9999
Dies to DoD.
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>>170447162

Enjoy getting face rushed as so as you waste your entire turn doing nothing.
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>someone has a gimmicky meme deck that requires extreme luck
>they pull it off and beat you
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Anyone else optimistic for control forest?

Tools from RoB such as Lily and the new members like Aerin and Vist give me hope.
>>
>>170447162
How do you know about the next sword leggo?
>>
>>170447162
>overstated
>powercreep
>still do nothing
>also probably a sword/rune/shadow card
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>>170447234
>turn 4 9999/9999 is shitty tempo according to /svg/
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new:
>>170447373
>>170447373
>>170447373
>>170447373
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>>170447067
Bahamut and Nephtits are your only halfway decent leggos.
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>>170447312
>rune player starts turn 1 by playing earth rune
>mmm must be dirt
>turns into regular daria shit
>ok its daria
>suddenly sorcery cache
>what the fuck
>board flood into dshift into pascale
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Dragon needs a good ramp card to be good
Oracle and aiela are not enough
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>>170446916
It's bad because there is no reason to ever play it in any Dragon deck.
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>>170447312
>playing aggro bat against shadow
>T4 atomy
>2 cards left in his hand
>if he doesn't have ceridwen it's gg
>I waste an evo vampy, a razory claw and a bat to kill it
>T5 ceridwen evo, guess who's back
>I kill ceridwen and setup lethal next turn
>if he doesn't have howl, it's gg
>T6 howl
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>>170436670
>jeanne (bad)
this card will be a great finisher for a full storm haven board on turn 7.
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>>170445876
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Damn, should have played my daria too.
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>>170447334
Control forest means nothing without a win condition worth playing
haven has every single advantage you could think of over forest when it comes to stalling. The wolfbolt meme is just a niche seraph deck. We really need good legos this time around or the best you'll see is some kind of slower tempo deck.
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>>170448734
>Control forest means nothing without a win condition worth playing
So like pure Elana?
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How do we make her useful?
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>>170449053
We include her into our deck and evolve her on turn 6 as a second player.
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played about 15 games in aggro blood seems i never get to use the ammy. anyone else?
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