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I'm no mere duck.

EGGGGGSSSSS

>>170447373
>card has rush or storm
>its cancer
>card doesn't have rush or storm
>its a do nothing card

What do?

Daily reminder that you only have less than 2 days to complete the GBF event. Better go fast.

RAPE VAMPY-CHAN

There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that think any of the new Rune cards are playable.

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>mfw the new blood lego is shit

That's what you get, vampyshitters. This is the price of being unga bunga

>>170447496
>fanfare: do damage to follower
>fanfare: heal
>etc
Do nothing cards are cards that don't have effects

>Academy Adept Ruu is bad

Hmm, yeah.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEMSIDB69KA&index=5&list=PLbVR9CYC3pDENWxW1i1rGQjqXU8c-tbLp

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Tell me about Yurius, why does he want power?

>>170447496
introduce instant cards with: when enemy attacks trigger X effect

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How fucked am i if i don't reroll? I wouldn't know what to do with the good cards anyways desu.

>>170447694
They could just add proper blocking and interrupts like Eternal has, but that would confuse the babies who came over from Hearthstone

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New SVG Open Tourney on Saturday! (Challonge TBA)

Projected time for the next tournament: Saturday, Mar 11 at 5pm PT
Previous tourney: http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT (finished)
Poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/12485732/r

Some other questions:
>Is the timeslot ok?
>Should participants share IDs beforehand to make spectating easier? (or any other ideas about how to do this?)

>>170447692
So that Albert can stop cucking him.

>forest is getting 2PP 4/4 and 3PP 3/4 Storm if they combo

Tempo will be crazy in ToG.

>still no dragon legendarys revealed
What are they waiting for

Give me eggsongflute
Transform all cards over 3 pp into eggs if you don't have overflow active

>>170447750
You only pulled 5 leggos and 3 of them are memes.

I would reroll unless you plan on spending mad money. Even if that were the case I'd shoot for something better than this.

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bikini fun cards when?

>>170447496
>Ward
>Draw cards
>Deal X damage
>Gain Necromancy
>Ramp
>Spellboost
>Last Word effects
Those are all useful cards

>>170447818
2pp do nothing

>>170447838
Carnivorous Omelette
0PP
3/3 Storm Follower
If drawn when in overflow, is automatically put into play

>>170447920

>4PP 5/5 do nothing

How dare they.

>tfw you get a free win 'cause opponent concedes randomly

Makes doing quests easier.

>>170447803
All participants should friend the TO so he can stream games.

>>170447912
Next update will be during the summer, perfect time to have premade decks with bikini art

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This card is blatantly overpowered.
Literally the only question determining if Midrange Shadow will be tier 1 next expansion is if it will get any early game tempo plays. With the cards already revealed, it is 100% solid tier 2.

I've never played this game
Describe the current meta in 4 words or less

>>170448050
FUCK SWORD/RUNE KEKS

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>>170448013
Best waifu coming through

>>170448050
Really enhances the alberts

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/ss/ doujin with Cynthia when?

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Left or right

http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077

>>170448173
no

>>170448050
A bit too diverse.

>>170448050
UNGA BUNGA STORM TO FACE

>>170447869
>kills your falcons
>good for Storm Haven

>>170448173
Easy left

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>>170448050
>describe the upcoming meta in 4 words or less
EAT YOUR EGGS NOW

>>170448173
Stop bragging faggot.

>>170447769
The thing is, they don't need interrupts, they need to stop compressing the entire game into 9 turns, because short games are all about draw rng and matchups instead of skill.
That's like trying to bake a cake to be coffee cup sized, but keep all of the ingredients.

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what the fuck did I just play
also his d-shit had no angry doggo 7/7

>>170447750
Things to reroll for.

2+ Alberts will set you towards a T1 sword deck.

2+ Neps if you wanna play Nep.

2+ seraphs if you want to play Seraph.

2+ Darias if you want to play Tempo rune.

If you just want the most value in the long run Bahamuts slot into a lot of decks. A copy of DAO and/or Satan is also pretty good to have.

I just lost to Dshift as aggro blood

>>170448050
SKYKNIGHTS PREPARE FOR BATTLE

>tfw you live just in time to see rowens winrate drop to 30%
ToG will be amazing

>>170447803
>saturday
youre in conflict with the tournament that has actual money and actual serious players.

>>170447694
What's Robin?

Is Artilery Support, Tristan a combo? If he dies and summons himself again then does the Artilery go off?

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>>170448249
>so unga bunga we can't count 4 words out
Ehhhhh not bad to be honest, would meme again

>>170448050
Aggro, otk, or uninstall.

>>170447904
>You only pulled 5 leggos and 3 of them are memes.
>I would reroll unless you plan on spending mad money.
Bullshit, I started at the end of DE, didn't even care what I had with my first rolls, climbed to AA with Banner, made it to Masters with Aggro Shadow, all the while not spending a single cent. And now I have almost have most of the meta decks completed. Rerolling is certainly helpful but it's entirely possible to enjoy the game without torturing yourself trying to get a few more starter legos.

>>170448005
I'm not the streamer but yeah, he could do that-
It's a good start.

IDEALLY we'd have it so that even non-participants can spactate the matches through shadowverse itself so they can watch whatever match they want, but i guess that is impossible to do.

>>170448005
I think this is the only way. I wanted to spectate yesterday but no one was allowing spectators.

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>>170447656
Get that garbage out of here.

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>>170448432
This
Something a lot of people forget is the amount of free gold that is available now from various achievements. The 2000 from private matches, the 2800+ (I don't recall the exact amount) from beating the AI, all that shit didn't exist when I started playing

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post secretly OP cards.

>>170448403
Which tourney and when? I can still move my tourney.

>>170448050
H-H-H-HEAR THE DRAGON WHIMPERS

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BLOODCRAFT MISSIONS
BLOOD FUCKING SUCKS
WITH SWORD AND HAVEN I CAN FINISH MISSION FAST AND EASY
BUT FUCK BLOOD

>>170448643
I'm climbing easily with aggro, no way you can't fucking take some wins in unranked with it.

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Can I get a concede please?

42557

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>>170448432
>torturing yourself

You mean waiting? You can literally just jack off and watch anime and check in on your rerolls every so often. It's just patience anon. One or two days of missed dailies are nothing compared to starting several thousand vials ahead and with an almost complete meta deck.

You DID automate your rerolling process didn't you?

>>170447904
Pic related are two unused accounts from the last time I rerolled for a friend. If you want one just reply with your email or a throwaway email in the email field and I'll hop on it and send you the account link code.

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>>170448609

>>170448727
ranked and unranked, same decks

>>170447912
this bunny drives me nutt!

>>170447656
I like it.

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>>170448156
>elf butler boy
goddamn

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I don't know why he let me have a 11 power Pluto despite being capable of evoing the Lion and ramming it into it but hey, I'll take it.

>>170448643
I literally did my dailies in 7 minutes today, and I'm master with Blood aggro. Shit's strong and fast.

>Win 4 blood
>Evolve 3 times
>Win 2 ranked

>>170448762
Imagine this guy with his own ultimate carrot effect+ eidolon

Demon Breakfast Khaiza

Fanfare: put an ultimate egg into your hand

Ultimate egg: Evolve deal 3 damage to all followers
At the start of your turn evolve Ultimate egg
Last words:put an ultimate egg into your hand

>>170448728
Anyone?

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>>170448609

>>170448156
>Cynthia
>Not Soccermom

>>170448981
I want a set based on Iron Chef

FUCKING FOREST FUCKERS AND THEIR FUCKING FAIRY BEASTS ALWAYS ON CURVE TO AVOID LETHAL JUST FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES

>>170448050
Ikuzo Ikuzo Ikuzo Ikuzo

>>170448741
>You DID automate your rerolling process didn't you?
I didn't reroll, just vialed some useless shit and crafted 3 Alwida for Bannermeme, and breezed through the beginners ranks. The guy can do the same with Daria a deck if he so desires.

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>>170448728
Thanks rowen

>>170449024
Soccermom isn't 6+ cost

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>>170447692
Overthrow the King/his dad and steer the country in a good direction

>>170448867
This adaptation got the waterworks going hard, I still gotta read the original story. will never look st the moon the same

https://myanimelist.net/anime/16664/Kaguya-hime_no_Monogatari

>>170449018
>12/2 Do nothing
It's shit

>>170448741
If it's better than what i got, sure. Would be cool, otherwise i'll try to figure out how to reroll and connect to steam myself somehow. [email protected]

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How do we make her useful, /svg/?

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>>170449196
DELETE THIS

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>he doesn't play 3x Israfil in every deck

faggot

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>>170448156
What's his evo art?

>>170449316
I'm probably going to try running 2 in my Saha Elana deck.

Will dragon use a single non-neutral follower next expansion? Aiela maybe?

>>170449284
We include her in our deck, play her on turn 6 as a second player and evolve her.

>>170449445
What's the wincon for that, exactly?

(Obviously not Seraph, so...)

>>170448156
Would fuck his boipucci, no homo.

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>Daily reminder that no class has ever performed this well.
>Daily reminder that sword has never had an average win rate below 53% in any expansion.
>Daily reminder that sword, haven, blood, and dragon are the only crafts that have yet to receive any nerf.
>Daily reminder that 3/4 of those classes suffer from negative win rates and 2/4 of those classes have had negative win rates in every expansion since the very start of this game.
>Daily reminder that sword is statistically and automatic victory in T2 since the launch of this game.
>Daily reminder that sword's "mechanic" is playing minions that have higher value than the average class.

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>>170449316
How do I even include her into saha ramp?
3*saha,
3*luci
2 baha
1 satan
2 israfil
2 zeus
?

Seems like brick city
Prob need to cut something

>>170449565
>Daily reminder that sword, haven, blood, and dragon are the only crafts that have yet to receive any nerf.
So we should nerf dragon? I think everyone can get behind that. Aiela becomes a 1/2 for 4, ramp was just too quick before and this should even things out so D Shift isn't left behind.

>>170449565
>>Daily reminder that no class has ever performed this well.
roach otk is enough to prove this wrong

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>>170449476
This is my dragon skeleton, rest is neutrals.

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>>170449565
Sword is an honest class.

>>170449516
The wincon is using Haven's million board clears to survive, then overwhelming them with big-ass followers and tons of heals.

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>>170449602
Not Zeus then. All those other guys are huge as fuck already. You don't need the ward from him since Luci and Isra will heal your ass.

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>>170449734
H O N E S T
O
N
E
S
T

>>170449565
>>Daily reminder that sword, haven, blood, and dragon are the only crafts that have yet to receive any nerf.
shadow?

So Dragoncraft's fate is slowly becoming Angelcraft with Ramp on the side?

>>170449749
So it's still going to lose to Dshit, Bahamut, Forest OTKs, and the like?

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>>170448509
Is this 2hu?

>>170449284
Sun Jeanne and Kaguya, I'll have to have a shot at building. Ony have one Olivia and don't wanna use PoD as a win condition. Vialed my free Luci from months back and only 3.5k vials left. She'll have to wait till after the expansion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyHLVp9b0b4&list=PLbVR9CYC3pDENWxW1i1rGQjqXU8c-tbLp&index=28

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Gobu!

>>170449726
I use siegfried over grim reaper
Ward once overflow hits is nice, but I really need a powerful turn 4 to get to overflow

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>>170449726
>Imprisoned dragon
Replaced by Grimnir
>Dragon warrior
Replaced by 4PP 7/7
>Grim Reaper
Replaced by Goblin Princess/Goblin King

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77667

Surrender Onegaishimasu !!

>>170449565
Go MAN or go home, shadowbab

>>170449565

>Just went 2-1 against Sword as Aggro Shadow

Uh Shadowbabs?

>>170449770
Forgot 2 odins aswell so I don't instalose to every seraph fag

Ya I guess I cut the zeus
>all these vials for a mediocre deck
At least I can jack off over a hand full with legendaries

>>170449228
Since you didn't specify one I sent you the device link password for the daria Daria one.

Once you're on you can secure the account by linking it to your own mobile or adding a FB/Google play acc.

I would suggest doing your Elite AI and private match missions for the free 4800g and afterwords looking up a Tempo Rune decklist.

You can ask around in the general if you need help.

>>170449284
counters aegis

>>170449882
>Sun Jeanne and Kaguya
I like this idea, hopefully it can turn into a viable deck.

>>170449928
The Owl doesn't let me kill 2 things turn 4/5 and you run the Grim Reaper so Roach and other stormshit doesn't murder you while the princess needs to die before I get a King.

>>170449928
>dragon warrior replaced
Nah dude
Dragon warrior kills their 3 drop and 2 drop
Dude is amazing with evolve on T4

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>6pp shittier Forte
>2pp do nothing unless you have both Overflow and an Evolve
>5pp discard a card
>5pp do 1 damage to whole board
>3pp 1/1 Summon a Megalorca
>A fucking egg

>>170449818
nerfs that I can remember off the top of my head:
conjuring force, piercing rune, harvest festival, homecoming, gobu, cursed soldier (shadowcraft)
>>170449721
53% win ratio on average
45% vs swordcraft
>>170449654
>dragon and blood are so shit no one ever hints to nerfing them
>they share the same non-nerf status as swordcraft
is this not firing your neurons or something???

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>Use Gawain to 'spellboost' your hand a metric fuckton of times
>Make damn fucking sure the board is clean
>Turn 10 Covering Fire LeonidasLeonidasLeonidas OTK
The memes, they're calling me

>>170450214
>No legendaries revealed yet

>>170450090
You don't play dragon unless you're a timmy and since I played the game for 4 months I can make anything I want besides runeshit because fuck runeshit.

>>170450285
What are you trying to say? You want more nerfs for dragon? Okay, fuck... I don't know, Forte now requires you to sacrifice a friendly creature or she doesn't get cannot be attacked.

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>>170449792
H O N E S T

>>170450285
>53% win ratio on average
that was on the last day of roach, on the first week or so it had 55%+ winrate, and it declined with time, as it naturally happens with any deck

we're in the same period for this new sword deck and you're a dumb overreacting faggot

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>>170448156
so he had a better life now

54103

0/20

Kill me or let me kill you...

>>170449565
>sword's "mechanic" is playing minions that have higher value than the average class.
That's dragon.
Whale, Sandstorm dragon, Death dragon all have above-vanilla statlines

>>170450307
People keep saying this. Just for posterity's sack, past legendaries:

>Darkness Evolved: A Flute
>A FUCKING FLUTE
>Bahamut: Imperial Discard Your Hand
>Discard your hand, need we say more?
Why are you suddenly expecting dragon legends to be good?

>>170450431
wtf am I reading

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Any predictions / hopes for the forest legendaries?

I'm hoping for slower things like wolf was, because fuck roach decks and fuck ptp.

>>170450307
But anon, we've already seen both dragon leggos for this set.

The impending memes are a non-factor.

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>>170450370
>best craft in the game
>best craft in every expansion
>never nerfed ever
>ever
This is like cygames basically saying sword is as bad as dragon and blood
any other class with these win rates would have gotten nerfd hard long ago
you can't even say it's just albert because it isn't
he is just the icing on the "free shit lmao" cake that is swordcraft

>>170450581
>Any predictions / hopes for the forest legendaries?
i hope they're fucking trash desu

>>170450550

Basically it reads as "Since you attacked my Light monster, get fucked"

Although he still goes live if the Light monster attacks your guys.

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>>170450549
Also Zirnitra has been powercreeped HARD by Nephthys, Forte will never get to deal 10 damage to the enemy face unlike le 10 damage man and Fafnir is the most cucked card in this game after fighter.

>>170450307
Name a good Dragon legendary. I'll wait.

>>170450581
We already got a new better roach, so there's no hope for forest not being cancer. That, and bolt decks already hump you with roaches, so it's not like "control forest" is any less fucking annoying than just straight combo.

>>170450490
FUCK SORRY, LEFT THE ROOM.

42367

Should I be leaving the room to claim the rewards or wait till I have 20 wins/loss under my belt??

>>170450734
Bahamut

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>>170450630
>this might be bait
no, it's crippling autism

>>170450093
You think it's a good deck for a newbie? Thank you for the help!

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>Need 6 Blood wins for Vania back to finish the event.
>Only Blood golds and Legos I have are 3 Dire Bonds, 1 Beast Dominator and 1 Queen of Vampire

What do I do guys?

>>170450440
>first week or so it had 55%+ winrate
blood had 70% first week
>and it declined with time, as it naturally happens with any deck
sword has literally gotten stronger each expansion
>b-but it's just one deck that get free value on curve guys
>it's just the "midrange" deck g-guys

>>170450730
Reminder that when you have 9 or 10pp Fighter is a better card than Aiela

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>>170450550
Late game cards become closer to Yugioh level

>>170450742

>better roach

You mean a roach you can use for chipping and combat more effectively than regular roach.

Not strictly better.

>>170450214
Underestimating storm boy.
Now dragon can also Saha + Bahamut and give him storm.
And even better. ram that 13 dmg to a shadowcuck face and he gets sent back so they cant just dump a Khawy to heal it back.

>>170450730
>Forte will never get to deal 10 damage to the enemy face unlike le 10 damage man
Just ramp up and Urd, bro.

>>170448268
anon, why the fuck do you have to make me laugh in middle of class.

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>>170450814

>>170450849
good job completely ignoring my point, I'll regard any post you make in the future as cheap bait

>>170450860
Jesus fuck, I'm here to play a children's card game, not reading a fucking novel.

>>170450868
>Wincon requires you to have an evo by the time you have 9pp
>Wincon is stopped by a single ward

>>170450829
Tempo rune was the most popular deck by far until the most recent nerfs. It's since dropped in popularity as people move to sword but it's still a very strong deck. Also I didn't have a reroll with 2+ Alberts.

The deck is very easy to play and with 2 Darias you've got most of it done already.

An example of a finished decklist looks something like this https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.3.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.66NA2.66NA2.66NA2.6A6Qs.6A6Qs.6A6Qs.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gkk.62UtQ.62UtQ.66IIA.66IIA.66IIA.6A8tG.6A8tG.6A8tG.66LT8.66LT8.61LeE.61LeE.61LeE.6A9bg.6A9bg.6A9bg.6A6RA.6A6RA.6A6RA.6A6RK.6A6RK.6A6RK.6ADlI.6ADlI.6ADlI

>Dark Jeanne d'arc

Literally why.


>1 pp, ignore ward

So, how do you counter 13/13 storm?

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>>170451039

You think that's a wall of text? That card is nothing.

>>170450901
Dragon+Legendary, well he is a Dragon and he is a legendary.

>>170451126
dunno what you're talking about, shadow has no way to get a 13/13 storm

>>170451126
Have 14 life
Or kill them before they kill you

>>170449882
It's Touhou.

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>>170451201
>he doesn't know

>>170450829
Tempo rune is strong and probably a good deck for beginners, regardless of how much people hate Daria.

>>170450953
yeah ok
let's see how much swords win rates drop with their totally new and never seen before deck

>>170451224
It looks fun, I'll have to get into it someday

>>170450860
Don't they have to errata this now that the left and rightmost spell and trap card zones only become pendulum zones while they are occupied?

>>170451201
CoC demon+Demon commander laura+1pp follower

= 13/13 storm for 9 mana

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>tfw tyrant might not be a meme next expansion

>>170451397
>"i can't read" the post

>>170451386

Not really, it just means you call those zones the pendulum zones now.

No reason to errata when you can just readjust the ruling's wording and have everything function just fine.

>>170451179
ra sphere mode is nothing compared to that shit in >>170450860

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>>170451241
oh yeah, tyrant, forgot that exists because it's so awful

ignoring wards won't be good enough to make that playable, you already had a card that lets you do that

>>170451397
>demon commander laura
>shadow

>>170451386
I dont think so. If left or rightmost zone is unoccupied, you can put this card in there.

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>>170451201
Then what is this thing?

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>>170450860

>>170451676
except, tyrant isn't awful. the only reason why tyrant isn't played is because currently you can't win if you don't draw him.

>>170451430
>10pp combo thats not a otk and can be instantly cucked by a ward
nah

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>>170451676
>creature that makes shadow infinite
>creature that makes you ignore wards
>tyrant not viable for some reason
???

>>170451692
a meme whose existence should regularly be denied

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>>170451375
>it looks fun
Yeah.

>>170451794
tell me more about that crazy 11pp 3 card combo that you can't tutor any parts of and isn't guaranteed to kill your opponent

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>>170451780
>he doesn't know about servant of the dead moon

>>170451775
this is pretty much why some decks run atomy, or ptp, in tyrant for an alternate wincon, you lose if you don't draw tyrant

>>170451925
I don't think it's something you rely on. But if they ever leave that 4 drop up, you don't need much mana to pull it off. Just tyrant cost + 1 PP if you want to use the ignore ward guy.

>>170451775
>have over 30 shadows the slow way.
15 cards left and enemy in lethal range.
>Die because neither of my 3 tyrants ever show up.
Tyrant is literally Odin tier asshole

>>170451931
>he doesn't know what 4 + 6 + 1 is

>>170451931
shadow already has a spell that lets them go through wards

>>170451891

>Was going to call out on the fact that they didn't start in the left bottom corner
>Remembered that not everyone can just hold Z for free damage

I'm too reliant on Reimu.

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>>170451891
>still haven't beaten this one or 3 others

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>>170451891
Yeap, fun!

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>blood's lego is literally just a worse meme dealer with no ward and draws two instead
wew fucking lad
YOU CANT GET MORE KEKED THAN THIS

I have 3 options

1. Buy all 3x pre-constructed decks
2. Wait until Set 2 constructed decks are out
3. Save my 10k crystals for Tempest

What do anons?

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>>170452425
>he doesn't know about flute

>>170452445
Save to see the new preconstructed decks.

it's way better than meme dealer, at least thrice as good. how low is your rank? -Z0?

>>170452445
>What do anons?
should start by reevaluating your life desu

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>>170452601
How does it feel to be a neet without money ?

When are we going to get a spell canceler so that Control Decks don't autolose to D-Shit?

>>170452883
Never

>>170452883
>complaining about out of meta deck
>not using aggro
You deserve to lose.

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>>170452257
Kaguya has actually some nice danmaku. Although her bonus spellcards are kinda annoying to capture.

I am playing Control Blood and it's fun

Any tips?

>>170452998
>encouraging aggro
And you deserve hot lead in the brainpan

There are NO cards in this set that work with Baphomet.

What the actual fuck.

I understand the concept of legacy support, but every other fucking card game gives you at least something to scrape a combo together off the bat.

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>>170452883
>Floodgates
don't even think about it. these are the most anti-fun cards ever. i wouldn't even wish that upon Dshiftfags.

>>170453060
As braindead as aggro is, it's the most effective way of countering dshift. Dshift is perfectly balanced and should be played against the clock. The longer you drag out the game, the chances of you winning is slimmer.

>>170453092
t-theres still one unreleased lego

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I've been playing for two weeks, how much longer will it take until I'm not longer a shitter?

Imp Lancer should be Legendary

>>170453336
Be careful what you wish for. Being a shitter is more fun.

>>170452883
You have the knowledge that control loses to dshift. Just take the loss and move to the next match or see if you can tech in some aggressive cards to counter it at the risk of ruining your consistancy. Bitching here won't solve your issue

>>170453095
I wish it up upon Dshiftfags because I want to play cards like Leonidas and Aegis without autolosing at the start of a match.

>>170453256
"Just play aggro" is not a counterplay to Dshift. There are no cards or strategies you can add to a slow deck to counter Dshift. If you're not already playing an aggro or fast midrange deck, there's nothing you can do.

>>170451676
hi brick

>>170453336
>sword netdecker

Never

>>170453374
>Just take the loss
Thank you, my fellow rock paper scissors player

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>>170453095
It's too late. Cygames is already exploring the possibility.

>>170453336
>sword nigger
never, kill yourself

>>170453374
If "just take the loss" is the best advice you have for a bad matchup, then there's a serious problem with the deck in question.

>>170453572
>Implying I'm a netdecker and not using my super secret otohime deck

>>170450834
Make 3 Vampys and play blood aggro.

>rune has a 6pp banish themis (enemy only)
>but its ok you need a worthless 1pp amulet on board lmao

>>170453509
Then don't complain and whine when you lose to a dshift player. It is your own fault for playing a slow deck.

There will be games that are purely UNWINNABLE. If you think you can win every game you play, then you are playing the wrong game.

NEW GOLD FOR DRAGONS

Draconic Savior
2PP
2/2
This card gains Storm at the start of your turn

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>>170453095

>Wandering Bard Elta

But anon, it's already begun. Bow to your overlord Atomy.

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>>170450901

>>170453608
>evolve effect
literally no one will run this

>>170453582
Play aggro then.
>ew aggro is for nerds xp
Just don't play the game then. You know all the information about what beats and loses to dshift and yet you still play control.

>>170453664
Control players have an illness. They want to control everything, even their bad matchups.

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Most control beats aggro, aggro beats dshift, and dshift beat control.

Assuming no one bricks, how do you fix this?

Why are they revealing cards in such an awkward order? Dragon and forest haven't had a single legendary revealed.

>play daria
>face sword niggers every single game
>win every single game
im having so much fun

>>170453810
Make midrange great again.

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daily reminder that zeus is complete garbage and you should liquify everysingle copy of it you get
>"b-but muh 7 storm evolved finisher"
if you're running a shitty overcosted storm as finisher or you will just smorc like a retard you might as well just run gilgamesh instead of crafting zeus
>"b-but it has high hp and ward, you're a retard, don't ever post here again"
>implying you will survive until turn 10 to play this shit
>implying zeus will ever survive a single turn, in REMOVALVERSE

>>170453731
Having a bad matchup is fine, because you can tech in cards to help you out. By adding those, you risk having useless or less than optimal cards against other decks, but gain a means of evening out a matchup against bad ones. Having ZERO options against a deck is not the player's fault, but simply bad design that can and should be fixed.

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>>170453810
dshift and aggro are removed from the game

>>170453810
>assuming no one bricks
>no one bricks
>bricks

Stop asking for the impossible, we're playing a fucking card game. There will always be a player that bricks no matter what.

>>170453827
>Dragon haven't had a single legendary revealed.
They don't want Dragon players to kill themselves this soon.

>>170453582
>>170453808
>rock paper scissors
If only it worked like that. Dshift beats control much more than control beats aggro. And why the fuck control should care that Dshift gets beaten as hard by aggro, if that doesn't affect their own winrates?

>>170453891
Midrange is just glorified aggro with midgame value plays instead of burn. Its return won't affect the aggro>combo>control>aggro MU cycle much at all, as its MU spread is similar to aggro's.

>>170453775
Seraph maybe?

>>170453998
t. Havencuck

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>>170453608
>>170453763
one step closer to yugioh.
hopefully they don't feel encouraged to make more stupid effects just to make more floodgates to "counter" those effects.

another similarity i see is cards that are getting multiple effects, including effects from previous cards.
it's not that bad now, but the future isn't looking bright.

>>170453808
Nah, I think you have a misunderstanding of the issue with dshift. Control players desire more back and forth games--i.e, they don't want to autowin, and they don't want to autolose. They play longer games, at the end of which they can win or lose. Playing longer games AND autolosing is pretty shitty. Your perspective is particularly strange since control has never been very strong in Shadowverse.

>>170454001
Aggro rarely bricks since its has a low curve usually under 6pp and runs a bunch of 1pp drops.

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>>170453978

>Wasn't in Masters for other top score rewards.
>Now that I am, the reward is dogshit

>Want one (1) daily win as blood
>Ward wall of China sword
>Elana Haven with even more anti-aggro teched into it
Why

I fucking hate blood.

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Need a concede
60853

>>170453978
I can't disagree with this, as a ramp player
Zeus is a fucking meme

Wait
When is the extension coming out?

>>170453978
>>implying you will survive until turn 10 to play this shit
you use him with sahaq so it should be a turn 7 at best, less if you ramp

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Shoutout to the autistic sword players who don't know how to trade

>>170454393
>using sahaq to pull zeus
>aka a fucking gilgamesh
How much of a chump do you have to be to spend 7 mana for a 5 storm? Zeus' only value is as a ward with bane.

>>170454296
On friday

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22948506?via=thumb_watch&at=title&state=started

Open your mind, anons

>>170454445
doing gods work desu

>>170454445
>runecraft
woohoo anon were all celebrating your win

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>Familia, you know this card, that has never ever seen competitive play, because it literally makes you kill yourself?
>What if we remove the ward from it so the opponent doesn't even have to remove it, and can ignore it even harder now since it has 4 instead of 6 attack?
>Isn't that a bit harsh family?
>Just give them 2 draw or something for it, they'll eat it up, not like anyone plays this fucking class anyways, We'll just have the cucks from the other classes defend it like they do every expansion remember "Bloody Mary will save Blood! Bloody Mary is broken tier!"? Good times.

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reminder that Israfil x Saha is canon!

>>170454294
Dragon's Legendary will be a 7pp follower that summons a follower from your hand with 5 attack or less.

Not so useless now, is he?

>>170453995
>Dimension shift bad game design
>bad game design
LMFAO good fucking joke. You clearly never have played dimension shift before. Dimension bricks faster than any other deck in the game and if you draw dimension on turn 6 non-spellbooster the game is over for the dshift player.

Dimension shift isn't even the main fucking problem. It's the other magic cards like spell cache(+2 spellboost and draw) and fates hand making the card stronger than it actually is.

***New Dragon Legendary Leaked***


Egg of the Dragon Matron

5pp Amulet

countdown(5):At the end of your turn discard one of the lowest cost cards in your hand and transform the lowest cost follower in your hand into a Hellflame Dragon
If overflow is active for you.

>>170454590
please take sahabutt out of the picture, i need to see more of my waifu isra

>>170454590
Fuck off, yo/u/r breed is the same that makes Israfil cry

>>170454445
wow look at this diverse meta
so glad we nerfd the real cancer of this game

>>170454573
nice meme fampai

>>170454506
If you both have full HP on at 7pp and you are playing against control blood or haven its better to use zeus

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>>170454693
>making shit up
Two can play at that game. Bloodcraft's second legendary will be 0PP WIN THE GAME XDDD
Just be real anon, dragon will never get a usable legendary

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>legendaries will save Dragon

>>170454573
i love this meme

Shortest OP ever

>>170453367
Can't draw it with another follower and her stats are obviously bad for a turn 6 card if albert is considered balanced.

>Meme Dealer 2.0 can't be tutored
>Mary can't be tutored
>JUST COMBO BRO, 2 CARD TURN 9 10 DAMAGE WOW!
>b-but both cards are shit on their own and there's no guarantee you'll ever have them, since they can't be tutored
>WOW BLOOD WHINERS I SWEAR YOUR CLASS ISN'T EVEN THAT BAD SO WHAT IF YOU'RE LITERALLY NEGATIVE WINRATE AT THE END OF EVERY SINGLE EXPANSION TO DATE YOU HAVE YURIUS AND HE MADE ME LOSE IN C RANK THAT ONE TIME, FUCKING BROKEN

>>170454697
spellboost is a problem in general, it's absolutely retarded that there's no limit to how much a cost can be reduced

it also has no downside whatsoever unlike every other class's mechanics, unless you consider "it's slightly expensive until you spellboost it a few times" a downside

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>"I'm not the girl you used to know"

What did she mean by this

>>170455063
Tranny, like Erika

>>170450860
What the fuck is going on here?

I can't imagine the level of misplays and fuckups going on in Yugioh, especially considered the average age of its player base.

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>>170454840
Rowen, at least your legendaries are just bad. They don't literally kill you lmao. We'll still be using Vampire Queen 3 expansion from now, when Sword/Rune/Forest have it as a bronze 2 mana card with an upside.

>>170453978
>>"b-but muh 7 storm evolved finisher"
he also has 12 defence.. and bane... and ward, but uh... let's just focus on the 7 dmg bunga

>>170455063
COURAGE!

>>170455015
That's not even a spellboost thing. All spellbost has to do is do something interesting instead of just minus 1 cost XDDDD They have a few "whenever a spell is cast" thing that should probably be explored a bit more but not really possible when they get so cheap.

>>170455063
she realized that yuri is the purest

>>170455063
sucked at least 40 dicks and became a suction demon
next level: vacuum inferno (60 dicks)

>>170455063
She means kys dubcuck

>>170455097
Does she have a knotted dragon cock?

>>170454840
We need fan art of Rowen and Urias drinking themselves into an early grave each time they see the spoilers of their upcoming cards.

>>170455162
>They don't literally kill you
No they just kill our fucking hand lmao
>Just discard your whole hand bro
>Just turn all your cards into dragons bro

>Blood Pact
>2 damage 2pp draw 2

>New Blood Lego
>4pp 4/4
>1-10 damage draw 2

Fantastic stuff there Cygames. Especially given that if you're at 11 it's just because they're playing around a vengeance Revelation so they can lethal you next turn if they have something stick on board+damage from hand.

Megalorcas will save dragon, have some faith.

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>>170455324
Well Urias is a vampire, maybe he got that way from all the shitty cards
Hmm, actually

>Rowen used to be an average soldier
>had to deal with dragon legendaries
>eventually got so pissed he started transforming into a dragon and murdering people

DEEPEST LORE

>>170455209
true, but most spellboost cards with actual effects are pretty garbage, like multipart experiment or fire chain

so they just make more braindead 0pp shit

>>170455415
wait till megalor(d)ca lego

>>170455380
b-but muh Bloody Mary turn 9 10 damage combo! Give it a rest, Blood and Dragon are the filler classes. They're there to give the pushed classes easy wins, til retards like us wise up and just vial the shit cards and move on.

>tfw i craft 3 neptune

Finally going to be useful. Now if only poly roar had last word summon a dragon.

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>>170455063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcnWAzwEd6o

>>170455679
Neptune was pretty decent in the past, good for stabilizing the board after you ramp
It just got powercreeped hard, no room for it in current cancer meta

>>170455415
Just like discard in RoB amirite :^)

Is liquefying extras ever a bad idea?

>>170455807
This time it's different.

>>170455850
only when they're expected to be nerfed
see goblin mage / feena / piercing rune

>>170454697
>it can brick, therefore it's bad

Just like every other deck. D-shift is retarded because there's no way for a slower deck prepare for it in order to have a chance. Seraph at the very least can be countered by every deck by teching in Odin. If Seraph gives you problems, there's at least SOMETHING you can do to make the matchup better. With D-shift, its just give up or play a different deck.

On that note though, if matches in ranked were 2/3 and there was sidedecking, you could maybe sidedeck enough faster cards to change a control deck to midrange. Whenever the solutions to a bad matchup are "play a different deck or give up," something is wrong. And it sometimes bricking isn't a response. People said Daria wasn't good because it could brick too, if you'll recall.

Dimension shift - 18pp
Allows you to have another turn
(Spellboost - Reduce the cost of this card by 1 each time a spell is played) Can not be reduced below 1.

I never noticed death's breath gives zombies already on field the bonus too. How strange.

I'm not even experimenting with the meme shit classes. Going straight for a Sword or Rune deck and getting a head start on master points. It's obvious as fuck that Blood/Dragon/Haven are their Timmy and noob trap classes at this point.

>>170455906
d shift has a 44% win rate and you still complain about it for hours on end every single day. Kill yourself.

>>170455971
Good lad

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>>170455889

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So what will Imperial Dragoon's waifu's effects be if she ever comes to Shadowverse?

>>170455850
No but you should star OP cards that will eventually get nerfed so that you can profit from the eventual refund.

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>>170455889
Anon....

>>170455931
Dimensional Shift would be better if it didn't restore you PP.

>>170455996
>my deck isn't doing well in a meta where the best decks counter it; therefore, it's totally balanced

>Start take two run
>Sword
>Sword
>Sword
>Dragon
>Sword

such a nice and diverse play format where nothing is the same!

>>170455850
No.
I wish it didn't treat animated/non-animated cards as difference. There's no reason for me to have six total cards of the same thing.

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>>170456075
be the change you want to see in t2 anon!

>>170456026
15pp

fanfare: win the game

>>170456029
Does starring cards make extras not get liquidated or something?

>>170456026
Discard your hand and summon a hellflame dragon for each card discarded

>>170456026
Deal 1 damage each time a card is drawn

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>>170456026
The fuck is that boobplate.

>>170456026
10pp add all cards that were discarded by card effects in this game back into your deck

What's a fun meme deck right now?

>>170455971
Sword is the noob trap. Play on curve and don't trade.

>>170456074
It has a 44% win rate so yes, it isnt good at all autist.

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YAMEROOOOOOOO

>>170456275
Yes, a noob trap that just magically happens to have a positive winrate in masters every single expansion siince standard. What a dreadful trap, who'd ever wanna go positive all the time? Just discard your hand or kill yourself with Dragon and Blood instead, now that's the real thinking man's way of playing.

>>170456313
>tfw they always taunt me before playing Salamander Breath

I thought you dragons were supposed to know and understand suffering?

>>170456313
Removalverse.

>>170456313
>bullying otohime
i genuinely can't take this.

>>170456383
Only positive since they roach OTK. If they didn't sword would be terrible.

>>170455906
>being this salty over a single lost to dshift
>not flooding your board
Fuck off you filthy shadow user. Even if there was a counter to dimension shift (AGGRO), I bet you would still come here to sook about how "un-balanced" dimension shift is.

>>170456587
Nerf*

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>>170456486
It's okay, I'll be gentle with her womb.