/scg/edg/ Star Dangerous Elites General #139: Atheism+ Edition

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>>170380774
Last time on edgycultists
>UM HELLO DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND PVP IS RUINING ELITE
>um the constellation is a heavy foighter i know because i spent $20,000+ USD on SC

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>>170384450
What would you even need an Argo for?

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>>170384596
It can be used as a dropship (people don't need to be strapped to seats).
It can carry small cargo boxes around planets.
It can be used as a ship-to-surface personal transport.
It can be used for surface exploration like the dragonfly.
It's also getting reworked to have a repair arm on it so you can keep one in your cargo hold and go out in space to repair your bigger ship.

/edg/ discurd

https://discord.gg/zy4xVRD

>>170384875
>Plaxinov

No thanks.

>>170384596
It's primarily used as a snub ship for the larger ships it can be used for external repair.

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>>170384875
Any community that does not self police and ban furries on site is not worth participating in.

>>170384875
Why post there instead of here?

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This guy blocks your path, what do?

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>>170385867
o7

>>170385867
Inb4 people find out this came from the reddit star citizen discord.

>>170386106
>Federal Corvette

that's clearly a sergal

>>170385430
>on site

senpai, at least speak english

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>>170386234

I've got a pillow and anal cream, I'm ready o7

>>170386352
A what?

>>170386394
you're too young

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>>170389942
I wish Derek was in charge of AtV.

It's baffling to me that someone doesn't follow him around with a camera all day. He's like the Gary Busey of game devs. Literally a walking talking meme.

>>170390749
He seems psychotic.

>>170391572
That's why it would be entertaining. I'm convinced that the only reason "I'm with Busey" failed is someone fucked around and told Gary the cameras were real.

Aside from the most recent video where Chambers confirmed mining, are there any videos where CIG goes more in depth about mining as far as gameplay?

>>170392359
You press buttons when a thing comes in and it turns things into things.

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>>170384450
fuck

>>170392359
The new 10FTC is about professions in 3.0, but I don't know when it's coming out.

>>170392359
Not a video and not recent, but the best you'll get is https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14522-Star-Citizen-Careers-Mining

Note that it's probably all changed now due to how long ago that was

>>170392525
Good choice on the dragonfly.

I picked up a bunch of free CCU packages, dragonfly > MPUV and MPUV > dragonfly. So I can switch it up if I get bored of one.

>>170392502
Is it just one layer of things or do you go somewhere else and press another button to make those things into other things still? How many buttons Mason?

>>170392557
>don't know when it's coming out
I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't believe you.

>>170392613
I wish more shit was written out like that.

>>170392613
Someone summarize that article for me, CIG always talks things up and makes them needlessly complicated when they aren't.

>>170392920
>I wish more shit was written out like that.
There are some other posts like that, but they're pretty ancient.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/14677-Cargo-Interaction
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14804-Design-Civilian-Passenger-Transport
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/14974-Design-The-Endeavor
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/15062-Ship-Repair-And-Maintenance
Passenger transport is especially amusing.

>>170393128
CIG on the never ending quest to increase fidelity. Nothing can top the passenger transport post as pointed out by >>170393217

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>>170384450
blow it out your ass

>>170393436
so much shit just to say "pick guy up and drop him at a thing"

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>>170384450
I have
>Caterpillar
>Herald
>Buccaneer
>Dragonfly
I feel like i absolutely fucked up any early game experience i could have had.
Also wasted heaps of money.

Anyone here remember /v/lancer?

>>170393875
You have a combat ship, 2 profession ships and an ground exploration vehicle. You didn't do too bad imo.

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This will be my pirate flag ship. As soon as this ship is available, capturing one for my own will be my top goal. 16,288 CU of all the cargo I can steal.

Perfect ship to creep up on a fat miner on his way out to sell.

>>170394069
>not wrecking it and making a spooky ghosty mining ship that entices players aboard and then kills them

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>>170393875
Could be worse. At least you're not me. Not in that picture: Super Hornet and a Dragonfly.

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>>170394069

Sorry, Anon, it looks like you accidentally picked the wrong image to go with your post. Let me help you fix your obvious mistake.

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>>170393517

>>170394235
I hope we get creative stuff like that, dev or not. E:D disappointed me on that front

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>>170394412

>>170394420
Spooky ghost ship. Looks like something right out of Dead Space.

>>170394420
I hope they don't fuck it up. Didn't they mention that they're currently working on the interior in some recent video/stream?

>>170394412
The only ships in that pack I don't like are the Idris-P and Starfarer. I'd trade those for an Idris-M and Prowler.

t. prowler poster

>>170394442
E:D disappointed everyone on that front.

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>>170394235
>>170394442
>goto mining field
>find optimal location for mining, away from entry point.
>power off ship
>hide in ship
>wait for Prospector to find the deal of the galaxy
>cap him as soon as he enters
>leave with Orion and new Prospector
>rinse
>repeat if desired

>>170394420
no, no, no. you missed why the Orion is a flag ship pirate ship. I can go buy a tow truck if I need something to do work. My eventual Orion will never chew rocks again. The jaws are a trophy, and maybe a weapon if it will damage ships. Reclaimers are bad ass looking ships in their own right and will be critical to have around, but they will never strike fear the same way fooling someone with an Orion only for them to realized they are fucked after it is too late.

>>170395208
>annoying bitch injecting herself into every conversation that everyone wants to slap
accurate

Want to change the colour of my HUD in ED but there's no "Products" folder in my EDLaunch folder pls send help

>>170397320
Nvm I'm a retard

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>>170395208
let's be real here.

>>170397981
what is this shit

ED_skybox_seen_thousand_times.jpg

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>>170403489
I_want_to_die_please_kill_me

>>170405137
I am so sorry, anon. I'm afraid we can't let you do that. You need to hit Elite exploration before 2.3 The Daddening Patch hits.

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>>170405137
paddle home swiftly little boi

>>170384875

Not until you git gud and learn how to park your ships, Plaxinig

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>>170406581
How anally anguished do you have to be to namedrop like this

>>170406581
Literally who and why can't he park?

Who /carrack/ here? Is anyone else made they've worked on the Endeavor but not the carrack?

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>0G shenanigans are always hilarious and fresh
>cig designs maps with almost no reason to ever be caught in 0g
>makes aiming a gun in 0g nigh impossible

>>170407643

Go to bed, Plax.

>>170408001

Some guy whining about how parking an imperial cutter was too hard and then throwing an autistic fit when he got called on it.

>why can't he park?

He needs to git gud

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>>170409521
>I know who's who on anonymous jpeg board

try harder.

>>170409690
Finland :DDDD

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>>170410038

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>>170409521
>Go to bed, Plax.

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>>170409521
>Go to bed, Plax.

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>>170409521
>Go to bed, Plax.

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>>170409521
>Go to bed, Plax.

>>170407643
>>170409690
>>170410330
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>>170410946
>Totally not rump ravaged

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>>170411137
>if I keep posting about my internet crush, he will notice me eventually.

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Passenger missions still the fastest way to rank to in Explorer rank? If so how exactly?

>>170409690
>>170410038
>>170410101
>>170410330
>>170410418
>>170410520
>>170410946
>>170411257

>autism

>>170414082
Don't reply anon

>>170414431

Eh, it's kinda fun and it keeps the thread alive.

>>170414510
>inb4 it's the same person

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post carracks

>>170414738
Is it ingame yet?

>>170415070
fucking never

>>170414738
Where is this from?

>>170415543
Elite Dangerous.

>>170415543
Shrek 3

>>170415543

Battletoads.

>>170415543

Superman 64

>>170415543

Spyro 2.

>>170415543

Rayman: Origins

>>170393875
>bucanner
>freelancer max
thinking about using the freelancer as a explore and repurchasing my LTI hull B.
You'll eventually make a new character and get full early game experience if the game is any good.

>>170415543

Donkey Kong Country

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Is there anything else in the game with the ayys other than that cutscene, UAs, UPs, crashed ships and ruins?

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>>170424221

Okay /edg/lords which Federation ship below Corvette is best? I want a funship but I don't know which one to grind for.

>>170424767
You do realise that it's named funship for a reason?

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>>170424852
Yeah gunship but are the other two worth grinding for?

>>170424959
Dropshit is mad hull tank dakka platform
Sexual assault ship is vulture but tankier

Yes they are all worth getting.

>>170425078
Do you happen to have a build for the three you could share? I want to know what to work towards and how much to save up.

>>170425314
Not home atm. You'll need around 350 million for outfitting all three.

Your weapon of choice is the multicannon.
All crucial internals as A-grade. You also need military grade composites and hull reinforcement.
At least one shield cell bank and some heat sinks. Prismatic shields if you can.
You also need to engineer the fuck out of your modules. Multicannons as overcharged. More power output on plant, recharge focused distributor, stronger shield generator, dirty engines.

>>170427076
Do I need a beam for taking down shields? Thanks

>>170427076
Why overcharged and not Efficient? The Jitter on Overcharged actually cuts down on the DPS. Whilst Efficient allows you to run your multi's longer and with a +DMG bonus if you do past grade 3.

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>tfw you know the pet system is like 2-3 years away, even though it's the coolest system in the game, because of how they are still working on the character models and don't have a female model in the game yet or character customization

>>170429082
No you put Incendiary Rounds to your MCs and they do the job fine. You also want to put Corrosive in at least one to get the damage bonus, they don't stack however.

>>170430056
There's no jitter in grade 5 and you don't put anything else but grade 5 upgrades.
You can fire them well enough with an upgraded distributor.

Is there a better Empire rep grind than HIP 10716?

>>170432575
Quince maybe?

>>170432575
quince is quite nice
20 scan missions give you around 10-20 %

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>>170433078
thats like 700 LY lads think i'll stick to this delivery job

>>170415619
>>170417224
>>170417607
>>170417901
>>170418124
>>170418598

Fuck off you autistic samefag

>>170433314
>not having an engineered anaconda that jumps 50 ly

i wonder how high i can get my explorationcondas jumprange with grade 5 fsd mods

>>170433662
I'm still pretty noob, asp explorer @ about half that jump range

>>170433943

Getting to Quince won't take as long as you think, and it's a goddamn goldmine.

The Engineer shit is shit
>500 data storage my ass
they should skin the idiot who thought that this is a good idea

>>170437310
>500 Data storage
>Make it RNG
> "Hueh hueh. They'll feel the immersion from the grind!"

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>>170437310
>yfw the storage volumes used to be half what they are now

i generally keep no more than fifteen of each micromat data or otherwise because of this shit

10ftc on 3.0 when?

>>170432575
Fehu is another, its also in civil war if you want to shoot stuff instead of scan & crash.

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Why are the guns in Star Citizen so bad?

>>170444321
The SL8 actually looks OK though.

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Massive enclosed bulk freighter when?

>>170446940
BMM or converted Genesis

>>170439953
10FTC might be cool
AtV tomorrow, could be the 3rd based episode in a row

Looks like a lot of interesting stuff is coming together. It would be bizarre to actually see big additions and patches in 2017 after 4 years of delays and hardly any content. I hope we get a lot of cool releases, though.

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>>170447247
>Ayylmao shite
Negative.

>Genesis
Not that big and also no a "bulk" carrier, it a long thin thing design to ship people.

I Have an E-Hull, but I really hope they add a more rugged bulk transport for operation in less friendly skies.

Also, http://imgur.com/a/Zt9Y4

Daily reminder we wont see 3.0 this year

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So ive been at fehu and i occasionally see the rank-up mission (that i cant accept in my eagle; its for smuggling 60 tons of cargo). Will my empire rank progression keep going if I do planet-scan missions or is my progression capped and I need to get to my next rank before I can keep on crashing my eagle?

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I went to Trappist 1 and took a screenshot from the moon thing that orbited the bigger planet. This game does look pretty fucking good at times.

>>170448780
Yes you can go past 100%.
It just won't show it for practical reasons.

>>170448368
You forgot your donald duck image, shitpost-kun.

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>pay crazed man by the name of Derek Smart to play the role of an unhinged developer that harasses my wife
>he's so outlandish, my followers are conditioned to hate any dissent of Star Citizen
>delay 3.0 indefinitely now that I know my followers will defend my antics to the death
>run off with the money
>roberto wins again

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>>170448780
>America will never have shit this cool ever again

>>170444321
because you have a 21st century idea of what a gun should look like and they are specifically trying to subvert that.

>>170450809
what are you talking about, Trump just instructed NASA to shift all their focus away from climate change and towards space exploration, and they found seven new earths like a week later.

>>170451432
You retard, that discovery was made long ago. Just announced later.
Also his blatant disregard for climate change mitigation should worry you.

>>170451569
I'm sure it was a total coincidence that they discovered a bunch of new planets right after being instructed to look for them in so many words. no doubt they were saving the articles on it for after Trump gave the order, we all know how much the news media likes to make him look good and do what he says to curry favour.

>>170451790
Because obviously they announced it the same day they made the findings.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/may/02/could-these-newly-discovered-planets-orbiting-an-ultracool-dwarf-host-life
Trappist 1 had been under study long before that

>>170451274
>because you have a 21st century idea of what a gun should look like
Simplistic, utility above everything.

Not covered in massive chunks of pointless metal and screws, weighing 50% more than necessary.

>>170450809
It looked cool but it was a pile of shit. The US would have been better served expanding the Saturn V program.

>>170446940
Buy a Type 9.

>>170453415
>Playing E:D
>ever.

>>170454950
>170454950
>falls
Wat?

>>170455174
everyone has a personal anti gravity device
once death occurs the device fails and gravity is reinstated
since the whole game plays on earth inside a space simulation hall with artificial anti gravity and many other technical things to simmulate space on earth

>>170455174
I assumed that there was a gravity field from inside extended out too far, that he fell into. but if that were the case he would have been extraordinarily lucky not to get caught in it when he was alive. I can only assume it was a bug, like the inverse of the guns floating everywhere.

>>170455052
>thinking you'll play sc
>ever

>>170415543
Boku no piko

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>>170414738

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>bumping an Anaconda jump range from 37ly to 47ly with only rank 4

What is the % rank 5 increases

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>>170452247
This, you didn't see muskets covered in extra decorations or unnecessary material unless they were made for the rich and powerful.

Futuristic guns would look pretty similar to modern ones unless there is some major break through in technology

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>>170444321
Shitty thumb hole stock, 10 round single stack mag, Single fire, Aermicanized babies first G36; get a real gun.

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>>170458540
Forgotten Manlet pls go

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@170459656

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>>170457953
Pic related. Captain Kirk's phaser from JJTrek, small, light, powerful, and a e s t h e t i c

>>170459656
DO WANT

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>>170459656

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>>170457953
Modern gun that are not SPACE RATED, don't forget it.
It's incredible how many things we take for granted don't exist in space. (for example you need to pack your shell with their own air to burn, and thermal management in space is hellish)
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmslug.php#id--Slugthrowers--Propellent_and_Lubrication

I don't care how many mar/k/sman there is here, I'll take both realistic looking gun and 70s SFish space phazer set to stun.

>>170461082
Gunpowder contains its own oxidizer

>>170461082
>pack your own air

We already do this. Air actually isn't a good enough oxidizer.

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>>170461082
>the "gun needs atmospheric oxygen to fire meme"
Your own link disproves that

Thermal management would be the #1 problem though. Spent casings currently act as mini heat sinks but that wouldn't be enough for space. We might see a return of cooled jackets like a maxim gun except with some high tech heat sink instead of water

>>170457613

50% + an additional 5% possible with the secondary effect. I got a 54.4% on mine.

>>170461082
ammunition propellant has been packed with it's own oxidizer since the late 1800's

plain atmosphere actually isn't a good enough oxidizer for ammo

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>>170461393
>>170461471
>>170461575
Busted, I was talking out of vague memory. Serve me wrong.

Also, how did that even became a meme ? Got that talk often on /k/ ?

>>170463095
It's a common misconception held by many people.

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>player count down to 3 -5 because middle of the day
>game actually becomes super tactical >ambushing and trickery is actually viable
>not guaranteed to get shot in the ass if you stop moving for five seconds by some dickhead running around like a bored cat

>>170461575
we'd need a cooling system with an ejectable and replaceable heat sink system for any sort of sustained fire. simple fluid jackets wouldn't be enough in vacuum.

>>170464056
namedropping fgt.

>>170464056
am I the only one that thinks the kick on that "shotgun" is way too heavy? it reminds me of that atrocious scope animation from battleborn, completely disorienting. it's not even firing real shot, and it takes so long to fire again it doesn't need that penalty, not to mention the spread is so stupid wide it's only basically a melee weapon.

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>>170430526
>tfw no cockpit companion for long voyages

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>>170464089
This pisses me off more than anything in SC. How the fuck is this thing supposed to cool an entire craft with guns blasting away?

At least heatsinks in E:D made more sense as a disc of heat capacitive material is ejected upon reaching saturation. This shit looks like it belongs in a volvo

>>170464249
?

>>170464482
at some point you have to sacrifice for realism anon, unless you wanted every ship to be built around monolithic cooling units and/or have radiator fins all over them? I admit that would be a neat starting point for ship design, but very limiting as well.

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>>170449404

O7

>>170464465
What a strange looking bunny

>>170430526
>>170464465
>wanting to have a vulnerable companion with you in the dangerous wild west of space
griefers are gonna shoot your fuckin dog and you will be heartbroken.

>>170464465
I think that rabbit has autism

>>170464730
radiator fins would be a neat gameplay system

lose too many and you cook the interior

>>170464465
>space snail friendo that just shlorps around on the inside of the windshield
>occasionally gets in your way
>leaves a thin layer of mucous that you can see through but gives a yellowy tint to everything

>>170464465
space doggo when

>>170465102
maybe they'll incorporate something like that with the full metal autism they've gotten into with the modular satellite system.
>want to take out comm segment without getting caught
>knock off a bunch of fins and get out of dodge
>20 minutes later the satellite is fried with no records of why, allowing you to crime it up with no oversight

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>>170465109
>space snail friendo that just shlorps around on the inside of the windshield
Maybe his mucus trails will improve the HUD.

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>rifles have higher RoF and damage dealing capability than ship weapons
>marines are more maneuverable and faster on their own scale than ships

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>>170465109
mfw if you leave it alone long enough you realize it's mucus trails form words and it's actually an advanced lifeform seeking companionship

>>170464465
You made me google "Largest Snail"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N6NhA5pfBo


>>170464482
tips anon : Even if E:D have "radiator-looking thingy protruding out" they are so ridiculously small for the heat generated that they are no more realistic than Star Citizen. Not in any relevant ways.

So SC didn't bother and simply use cooler as a game-mechanic.
It's not to say I don't like the aesthetic of trying to have real-looking radiator, but that it is simply an aesthetic change in both case.

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>>170464482
>>170465102
Theses are realistically sized radiator.
Believe me, FULL REALISM lead to a very different and difficult type of gameplay.

I like it, but it's too bothersome to include in a game of WWII-in-space.
Sometime we just want to play with recycled tropes in space.

>>170467239
>>170464482
>900 years in the future everything will be exactly as efficient and functional as it is now.
This brand of autism needs to DIE.

>>170466754
>top 10 youtube videos

FEMA camps cant come soon enough

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>>170468920
>900 years in the future everything will be exactly as efficient and functional as it is now.
>manned turrets
>aerofoils on space ships
>conventional drive systems

sure thing kiddo

12 posts you won't believe trigger autists
>>170467239
>>170466754
>>170464482
>>170459656
>>170455052
>>170444321
>>170418598
>>170418124
>>170417901
>>170417607
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>>170415619

>>170469951
Imagine if CR wasn't retarded. We could have remote operated turrets. Turrets could fit bigger guns and just have a camera instead.

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>>170470154
automated turrets that auto lock and fire upon radar contacts once authorized by a weapons officer

honestly, they should really be more of a point defense armament than anything else

>>170470642
Expanse the MMO when

>>170470793
>>170470642
>>170470154
Goonposting. Abandon thread.

>calling chris roberts retarded
Yeah imagine if he made a game like Line of Defense, it would have like 3 global players.

LACE SPEGS WHEN?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmJbjsFuYv0

>>170471123
>Mongolian yak milk trading forum
>Being triggered by the word retarded
>Muh boogeyman
I'm not a goon, you cultist. Nor would I ever play the LoD trash you called a "game." Enjoy dying as soon as the shields go down in your manned turret.

>>170471396
>goon discord server full of people calling chris roberts retarded
>mentioning "the expanse" a lot
>armchair development professors

Yeah, you're totally not goons amirite.

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>>170470642
>this cannon costs twice as much as the US gouverment are having as tax income, for twelve seconds.

Also, no 3.0 before August

>>170472034
>cod
>ever

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>>170471673
>goon discord server full of people calling chris roberts retarded
how do you know what they discuss there? isn't is a private server?
>mentioning "the expanse" a lot
lots of people watch it
>armchair development professors
/v/ and by extension /vg/ have literally been doing this for fucking years

you're on notice, rookie.

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>>170471123
>>170471673
Calm yourself, anon.

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>>170472169
But CoD IW has killed Star Citizen before it was even alive, according to Dr. Smart.

Pic related; planet in game in smaller than normal, it couldn't possibly be a moon.

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3.0 WHEN

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>>170473068
NEVER

>>170473068
Two, maybe three.

>>170473068
no earlier than 2018

17 Draconis back at war yet?

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disregard goons, post videogames

>design maps and gameplay ideal for careful squad tactics
>jam in as many players as the server can take just to BTFO the sceptics
>deaths are near immediate after spawn because everyone is constantly tripping over each other
>jack up the health so players last longer

if the current maps were maxed at 6 and 12 players respectively and body health cut in half the game would vastly improve.

>>170466754
ED radiators are based on some handwavium tech that allows them to actively dump heat into hyperspace or some shit. They're not passive fins .

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>>170474785
I really wish the suit radar acted more like the motion tracker from alien. Make it a replacement for the pistol so you have to choose to either be armed or be informed.

Bonus points if you can get 1 guy to be scan bitch while the tool relays it's results directly to helmet hud of other players in your squad.

>>170474785
1) Lower TTK.
2) Remove dots from minimap.
3) Put some tactical mechanic in the game where team mates need to communicate HUD data to spot enemies and point out sound locations where they might have heard something, etc.
4) Fix the netcode.
5) Player-hosted servers running anti-cheat.
6) More game customization, 1v1, 2v2, 4v4, 8v8, 12v12, 16v16, 32v32.
7) Release actual game content instead of taking literally months to make 1 weapon, and then reworking them by adding more polygons to break your shit netcode even more. More weapons, more gadgets. It doesn't matter if they don't win "PC Gamer fidelity award 2017", just get the mechanics in the game and then polish the models later.

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>>170474785
>>170475736

>1) Lower TTK.
You assholes want to die quicker? I've literally dropped people with one head shot from an ATT-4. First player to get a head shot wins. It turns combat into the first person to get sights on target win, encourages camping, and other stupid shit. Never mind the retarded way combat ends for less skilled players. It leads to a huge lethality spike where one personal gets a lucky head shot and combat is just over for no discernible reason.

>4) Fix the netcode.

No shit...

>>170475736
anon, I want you to sit back and relax while I tell you why you will never have those things:

1. SM isn't actually a game. Lowering TTK would be a big problem in the larger game. Most of what appears to be TTK problems are actually the 400-500ms of movement lag making it look like it takes forever.

2. I agree, but this will never happen because you could actually hide in shadows effectively. The would be mountains of salt from the constantly running around corners crowd.

3. This would require someone on payroll who understands these concepts. CIG has never shown any interest in innovating gameplay like that.

4. Ironically, SM and AC are not effected by the netcode the same way the PU is. The problem in SM is animations don't report their motion until complete, so there is a huge lag while the game waits for you to complete your motion before reporting it to the other players. Muh fidelity.

5. Before 4.0? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.

6. This is a half cocked, poorly thought out feature like racing. Don't expect any actual development in SM itself aside from bug fixes.

7. Seriously, lurk more. What motive could CIG possibly have to release content any faster than they have to? They are going to slow drip this shit as long as they can. As long as cultists throw money at CIG to reinforce their own confirmation bias, CIG can take as long as they please.

They are already on at least the second version of planets, not counting the new stuff that was more developed. No one has played any of that. No planetary module, nothing. They aren't going to release anything until they have no choice.

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>>170477019
>[Fdev] are already on at least the second version of planets, not counting the new stuff that was more developed. No one has played any of that. No planetary module, nothing. They aren't going to release anything until they have no choice.

Reads like a /egd/ bittervet.

>>170476913
>You assholes want to die quicker?
No, I want to kill quicker.

Though I think I'm not supposed to play FPS games. No matter how many times I get the drop on someone, they always seem to kill me.

>shoot someone 10 times
>they turn around and kill me in 2 shots
>people laugh at my K/D ratio
I'm glad I stopped caring. Being competitive online is really unhealthy, it can be obsessive.

I also find that it's kill die kill die, constantly. Get a kill and then watch the spectator screen, finishing the match with 1.1 K/D ratio or something.

I just find it more fun without garbage netcode or bullshit luckers. I learned that devs wanted to take skill out of games and replace it with timesinks and randomness. That's where RNG, crit chances, ping, team composition all come in to play. You can't do much about any of this. If the game you're playing is full of bullshit, you're going to have a bullshit experience. I prefer older classic games. Quake 3 is still way more fun than any modern shooter. And it doesn't even track your K/D ratio.

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>>170477481
I'm shitposting about SC to cope with the reality of my mildly engineered FAS barely being adequate to leech off other NPCs in CZs. Saying I'm bitter about both games might be softballing it a bit.

>>170477490
>Though I think I'm not supposed to play FPS games. No matter how many times I get the drop on someone, they always seem to kill me.


SM's net code is fucked five ways from Friday. There is no reason to take it seriously. There are hacks for it already; wall and aim you can buy.

https://youtu.be/OHtIjbBVuTE

Also removing hax from the equation. There is a huge latency disconnect from movement in the networking. There is no prediction in regards to movement which is why people running around seem to have the advantage since they will be shooting people on their screen while the people getting shot at wont even see the person shooting for another 200ms.


>shoot someone 10 times
>they turn around and kill me in 2 shots
>people laugh at my K/D ratio

Combat is stupidly lethal if someone gets just one head shot. Stop aiming for center of mass and go for the head or nothing at all. If you can't get a head shot don't bother. Also the radar system is pretty stupid too. I can start pre-firing doors and corners just looking at my radar I know someone is there getting the first few shots in before I render on their screen. Just line up where you think their head is going to be and start shooting, either you round the corner into their head, or they round the corner into your bullets.

>I just find it more fun without garbage netcode or bullshit luckers.

We all do, Anon, we all do.

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>>170477990

I shit post about SC because I am bored and upset that CIG can't make the videa game faster. I shit post about /edg/ because I wanted it to be a better game but as it turns out its easy to be a crappy dev studio than a good one.

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Planets look nice, anyone have any guesses for what tomorrow's ATV will be?

Watch them talk about clothing clipping for the third time or some such.

>>170478197
Good post, Anon. You're right about the netcode, and cheaters, I already knew about them. I've only played Star Marine a few times and I'm not downloading 50gb over the next month just to keep playing a non-persistent lagfest.

I'll just have to force myself to remember to camp like a shitter, and aim only for the head. I don't like camping, but I guess it's a tradeoff for not always spectating from dying so much.

>>170478549
I have a feeling that their customization 'module' is one of their next biggest things, so I think they'll take another 2 episodes to talk about it. I don't mind, I like it. Sean did say last week that they'll dive in to it more in the coming weeks.

I'm honestly hoping they'll touch on cockpit decorations too, like bobblehead stuff, posters, etc. Maybe rare armor sets from achievments and crafting or whatever.

Just talking about the possibilities is getting me hyped.

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>>170478549
Hey man last weeks armor and clothing section was informative as fuck and clearly laid out both how and how far armor customization was going to go(fucking silly far to the point that no other game really compares)

How do I into farming Strange Wake Solutions?

>>170478197
>Just line up where you think their head is going to be and start shooting
This is the single best piece of advise for any FPS game. A friend told me basically the same thing way back in Halo 2, and it transformed how I played.

>>170478634
camping isn't being a shitter. camping is using the current flaws to your advantage, and it's what people at the top of the board do. You can either play to win, or fall victim to those that are.

>>170476913
the TTK is all fucked up, you have to put one in the faceplate it seems. I've blasted guys in the side of the head with three laser blasts only to get shotgunned down and not even get a bleed out kill.

>>170478549
>no barren crater-faced Yela for 3.0
legit disappointed.

>>170479534
We don't actually know which ones which and there was a barren cratered one.

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>>170479712
I'm guessing #1 is yela.

>>170479534
>>no barren crater-faced Yela for 3.0
What?

What kind of patch is 3.0 going to be if it doesn't include the Stanton System and planetary landing?

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>>170479264
>it's what people at the top of the board do
in my last match I was spectating some fucktard who was just trying to glitch through the map to get some easy wallhax kills. he didn't get a single kill the entire game and I made fun of him throughout the match for being useless. although I also got merc'd several times by a guy hiding in the cubbyhole near a cap point, because his head marker was obscured inside the geometry and I had no idea where he was. they should really drop that shit and just make the players more visible, or not.

>>170479712
fair. but aren't all the moons that should be in 3.0 already in Crusader? or no. because I love the look of all the current rocky moons and wanna mess around on them, not see them change completely.

>>170479959
He was assuming that the ice panet was being confirmed as yela, which it has not.

He was thus bemoaning not the lack of yela, but the fact that it had been arbitrarily converted into hoth, which has not in fact happened.

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>>170480020
Crusader along with its moons(Everything in PU right now) is only one of four planets in the Stanton system, 3.0 will be adding the rest of the system, which includes Hurston, Mircotech and ArcCorp, Its pretty safe to assume there will be more moons around at least some of those planets.

>>170480020
If you play KOTH in Arma 3, you can look and shoot through the floor on the bottom level of the towers. If you are in the right spot, you can't be shot from the ground. Bohemia has known about that forever, they blame the level design and still haven't patched it.

>>170480378
the quantum times are going to be obscene here. I hope they allow you to get out of your seat and wander the ship in quantum or shit is gonna get boring fast.

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>>170478962

True, but I live for the screenies desu

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Is exploration still viable for a complete beginner? I just want to make money mindlessly while podcasting, I was going to try mining but I struggle to figure out how to find decent asteroids (although I'll admit I haven't tried prospector limpets yet. Do they somehow add the ability to see how the remaining mineable contents of an asteroid, and allow you to identify the asteroids in your contacts menu to keep track of which is made of what, and what's been mined completely?)

Just sold my mining shit back to the dealer, I think I got 100% of the credits back but I'm not sure how that mechanic work, and picked up a better discovery scanner and a surface scanner.

From what I understand, all you need to do to make dosh in exploration is go to a system, use your discovery scanner (and surface scanner) on all of the unknown objects, and jump to the next.

And to sell, you just need to travel to 20LY beyond where you initially scanned the object? I take it credits increase as the range increases?

Did they optimise SC yet? I'll admit I'm not on the greatest system, but my 970 (hue) has been able to tackle everthing I've thrown at it so far within reason (no ubersampling TW3 and still expecting 120fps)

My CPU is a bit older, 3770k, but I remember every time I updated SC to check out if it was worth giving a shit about after getting scammed out of £30, it's always been a choppy mess.

>>170484380
>Did they optimise SC yet?
Sweet summer child.

>>170484737
Wasn't it originally going to be released in 2014 or some bullshit? I remember them announcing the release date and thinking it was forever away and it came and passed years ago.

Or was that just the release of the walkabout a single station simulator.

>>170484845
Its scope has expanded exponentially to the point where it may take another 3 years to fully come out. Check back every 3 months for news on major updates, if you don't want to keep a close eye on development.

>>170484208
The credits you receive don't increase as the range increases. What determines how many credits you get is what you scan. White dwarves and earth like planets tend to go for a lot. There's a handy chart somewhere that has the whole credit breakdown. I would say that exploration for a beginner is viable but tedious. Really you're better off just doing missions for factions.

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>>170459656
Americans are really short. This is their military. Looks weird, huh?

Is there anything interesting I can do with a Sol license or is it just an inconsequential stepping stone towards funship and grindmaster corvette?

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>>170485142
:thinking:

>>170485142
fuck off with these stupid shops. I'm not even amerifat

>First mission of the day
>Accept
>MISSION FAILED

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ded thred. post butts.

>>170489265
why the fuck has a spaceship got jet engines? are cig retarded?

>>170489496
That's just a nozzle to direct energy. The space shuttle has nozzles on the back of its rocket engines, those aren't jets either.

ED noob here. I go to a system that has 4.7m demand for cobalt so I jump to a nearby system and buy as much as I can, only to return to the first system that now has no demand and over 5m supply. Literally only took like 15 mins. Is this normal? Does trading suck?

>>170489496
>>170489830
Rockets are jets

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>>170489980
>Rockets are jets

>>170489496
the tuck do you make this stupid complaint only to be shot down repeatedly? are you retarded? we know almost every ship can function in atmosphere and thus can make use of jet engines, not to mention that thrust vectoring in no way guarantees it is a proper jet engine at all.

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>>170489954
Welcome to the VISION my child

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Fucking scanning for Strange Wake Solutions makes me want to hang myself

>>170490352
So are Hall-Effect thrusters

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>>170490549
Wanna form a suicide pact?

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>>170490549
Wanna trade?

>>170491085
I'll suck you off and give you 30 fucking Core Dynamic Components

>>170491224
Kek. Strange Wake Solutions are from scanning wakes right? If they are, just sit outside a populated dock in Open while in a speedy ship with a wake scanner.

>>170491224
Fuck this faggot

I'll give you 100 Eccentric Solutions and a rimmer

>>170491453
Trade you for some Zirconium.

>>170490549
>>170491085
>>170491224
>>170491752
I'll suck off anyone just to be able to trade mats with people.

>>170491871
can't you just drop them and let the other pick them up? I don't play E:D, all we haul and trade in SC is vending machines

>>170478549
This "planet" has been hand modeled, not procedurally genearted.

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>>170491994
You can't drop data. On top of that, you can only store 500 data when the system to make upgrades is all RNG. It's fucking horseshit. We should either have unlimited data storage or more than 500... Also you can only hold 1000 materials like zirconium etc but that's... okay I guess.

>>170384596
it's a vehicle that can perform tasks, so theres profit to be made somewhere, alot easier to offer your full time argo services to rich cap ship owners than it is to try making money solo with it

the world needs it's small delivery van services, and i'm sure any given large org wont mind having their own proud little argo master-pilot on their ship. if someone wants a good argo/ Dfly pilot position to be filled thats a spot for them

>>170492294
Some kind of auction house for mats and data would be ideal but dads would go cry about EVE.

>>170492787
dadocaust when

>getting a combat Corvette to 20ly jumps

Well at least it doesn't suck total cock

>>170492026
what are you basing this on

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>>170493638
>having a corvette that light

>>170493732
different anon. I think he is talking about procedurally genearteding the planets instead of modeling them with your hands.

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>>170493896
>what are engineers
>loading a fucking Corvette with armor modules and not 0A shield boosters and Prismatic

>>170478549
>welcome to around the verse
>this week we take you to the X studio where X will explain how [Stalling with basically rehashed method and design process dev walkthroughs we've all seen before but this time with some random content/model that will never actually be in the game]
>3.0 soon guys <3 backers and subscribers
>bye

>>170494153
Why though? Why can't they just add pets and all this other stuff later like every other sane mmo.

>>170494250
i just mean to say that the last 3-4 ATVs have been mostly the same stuff we've known about for months and months, just repackaged and made to look like something new and exciting

but really it's just something that someone whipped up real quick with the tech we've known about for months and months. "heres this badass new armor we're gonna showcase for entire episode" "heres a quick video of some planet surface a random dev literally whipped up inside 5 minutes" demos and concepts of the same tech

instead of more concrete "heres the progress on this exact thing thats going to be ingame"

>>170494042
are you aware of the shield booster nerf oncoming?

good slice into the pools of everything i've got that's very substantial.

3300 -> 2500, 3900 -> 3000, 2000 -> 1500 for a vette cutter and fdl respectively that each use a two omni/two heavy/one thermal arrangement with three slots employing a heat sink, point defense and ECM. fdl just has an ecm with the five. vette has two cell banks and the cutter gets one, both then have a pair of MRPs and the rest is loaded with HRPs and an interdictor typically. fuel scoops are fully accommodated

only my anaconda has a 50%+ roll but i've some DWE to stab at it again soon. cutter can only pull 20.01ly and the fdl and vette and stuck in the 15 region with how heavy either is but i'd never trust shields alone in a real shitty situation. too many people think they're real fucking clever employing shield popper torps and the ECM can make short work of their threat, presuming repeated use as they come and go with how they're now affected. now that the shield pools are being undermined i'm pleased with throwing my lot into biggu reactive tanks for everything

>people complaining about scanning wakes

Go to a system in famine, more often than not they will have a Distribution Center beacon that you can drop in, it'll most likely be around a station. Drop in there, there will be 3 Type-9s, and there will be a constant flow of Sidewinders going to the Type-9s, stopping for a minute, and then jumping out. It'll be a constant stream of ships jumping out and leaving wakes in the exact same spots. There you go, just go there and farm wakes.

>>170493954
I realize this, and wonder why he thinks these are not procedurally generated

>>170494845
>Shield booster nerf
>Mission stacking nerf
Just fucking pull the plug already Frontier

>>170495935

>>170495932
They prolly used their hands to model them, or nah? procedurally geneartedingly speaking, of course

>>170495935
All you would need strong shields and lots of money for is greifing you psychopath! Just make your money trading and enjoy the scenery :^)

>>170494153
>random content/model that will never actually be in the game
you are 1 for 300 or so on this prediction, the original SM was a real boon to you dickheads wasn't it? too bad what we got in the end was better, don't let that discourage you though

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>>170495935
as far as i'm aware this has been a long time coming in the way of the shields, that sort of effectiveness neutering was discussed for 2.2 but never manifested for whatever reason.

the age of titan pools is over

thicc hull tanks have begun

>>170496507

I feel like a lot more people will be using missiles and packhounds to knock out modules since shields are getting whacked.

>>170494745
has it occurred to you that with the build tech done the vast majority of the work between 3.0 and now consists of 'thing whipped up in 5 minutes' x3000? what would you prefer, new ships?

>>170496627

And MRPs won't save your hardpoints or utilities because they're ineffective on external modules and they have low health to begin with.

>>170496804
I don't understand why FDev keeps fucking their game. I'm glad they're not swimming in money like CIG.

>>170496120
a mix. they design a patch of biome, then generate seed rules from it to make a biome paintbrush that they can slap all over the planetoid

>>170496627
cascade rails will become all the more damning to be hit by, but on the same token cell bank stacks might see the light of day if some want to retain the outer layer as their primary tank. the need for torps might fluctuate for those interested in such things but i'm hardly certain.

also of note is that the armor ratings of the cutter and vette are being jacked up to 185 from 70, with the anaconda hitting 170 now instead of 65(?).

>>170474326
>17 Draconis back at war yet?
Not as of last night.

>be me
>order second stick to try twinstick/no-FA
>Docked in Paradiso
>pick up a stack of massacre missions
>plug in stick, calibrate, configure
>launch
>proceed to accelerate uncontrollable
>pinball around station
>pick up several fines before I can bring it to a stop
>still can't actually fly
>not sure what to do
>exit to title, figure I'll go sort it out in training
>game takes three minutes to go to title, ship accelerating and pinballing while I watch without control
>explodes
>log back into game
>DED
>respawn and fly with HOTAS
>go out to look for CZ
>game DCs
>internet dead
>subway builders outside apartment complex cut internet
>no internet for weekend
>log back into game on Monday
>mission failed x10
>peace has broken out

Well, that was fun. I guess I'll wait for another few weeks before I go back to ED.
Finished Rebel Galaxy while the net was down, polished off the last couple of DLC Episodes from Arkham Knight.
Now I've started AC:Unity.

Is ED an alternative to actually playing games?

>>170497013
well it seems like SC is the most procedurally geneartedinglyiest of them all while still making everything with their hands.

>>170496902
The dad meme exists for a reason

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>>170489265
We are your only salvation!

Chances of War in 17 D again before 2.3 drops?

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>>170498861
VANU GET OUT

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>>170499115
>NC Leftist
>Not TR.
TR literally space communists. Ya damn nerd.
VS Space Tumblr
NC Space Libertarians/Space Murica/Space ANCAP

>>170499115
wtf, I hate both those people behind that cool guy now.

>>170499380
TR stand for Terran REPUBLIC you xeno scum

>>170499545
aw fuck, they're xenos too? what game is this? I need to hate these people in person.

>>170499380
gibe sauce I want to fug it

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>>170499115

>i share this thread with TR bootlickers and VS special snowflak bronies

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>>170499115
>TR is a shotgun shitter using an aim optional weapon.
>VS is a dirty cloaker using some sort of sniping weapon.
>NC is making due with his mag shot, accomplishing with a pistol what the other need primaries for.

Seems about right.

>>170499691
Its a Vanu Sovereignty infiltrator from planetside. female vanu butts are probably PS2s oldest and most persistent meme.

>>170497084
>also of note is that the armor ratings of the cutter and vette are being jacked up to 185 from 70, with the anaconda hitting 170 now instead of 65(?).

Yeah this is huge. Game-changing, even. All that armor hardness means all incoming damage is reduced across the board since even huge weapon armor pen is far lower than these values. Breaches to internal modules are less likely and less damage will get through when they happen. Small/med hardpoints are proving to be utterly worthless against the big three hulls unless they're packing torps or rails with the penetrator mod.

The one exploitable exception is ship-launched fighters. Their built-in guns were given infinite armor pen so they still have full damage and breach chance. Like in the beta right now a single GU-97 is a bigger threat to a shields-down 'vette than a couple of Vultures.

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>>170499690
It's planetside 2. VS aren't technically xenos but they do worship a xeno which makes them honorary xenos.

>>170499692
I actually play NC almost exclusively, I'm just buttposting vanu.

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>>170500082
>honorary xenos
The best part of waking up is killing xenos for an op.

>>170499545
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea
>Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
>People's Republic of China
>Democratic Republic of the Congo

>>170500026

>
The one exploitable exception is ship-launched fighters. Their built-in guns were given infinite armor pen so they still have full damage and breach chance

But why?

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>>170500445
yeah but they were all using it ironically

Been out of the loop on Star Citizen for about two years now. Is there an actual playable game yet, or is everyone still buying ships that don't exist and arguing about ships and game mechanics that only exist on paper and in renders?

>>170500587
No, no they were not.
A republic is a legal system where groups or regions choose representatives to make decisions of their behalf, Communism is an economic system where property and capital are communally owned and employed. You can have both.

Its also the literal canon that the TR is a legacy Authoritarian Socialist NWO/One world government left over from when Auraxis was a Terran/Earth colony. You are very literally the Red Menace. NC are an alliance of Capitalists and Libertarians, VS is a Xeno worshiping transhumanist cargo cult

>>170500846
nope. Roberto ran off with the money. There are about 12 people left who keep making videos with the hope that the statute of limitations will run out before anyone puts it together.

This board has been charged with keeping this secret.