/scg/edg/ Star Dangerous Elites General #140: ARE MAG Edition #3

>>170635485
>that face

S U C C

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core dynamics/gutamaya bes ships

Can we kick the /edg/ faggots out please?

>>170635485
>we're not rescuing a million princesses, that would just be silly, the economic value of princesses would go down
sure david

WHAT THE FUCK

OW THE EDGE

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Should I melt my Herald for a Prospector?

>>170635840
It'll be less a question of kicking and more a question of just making /scg/ as its own thread again. Of course /edg/ discussion will not be ok in /scg/. But this is a joint general anon, they have as much right to be here as we do, it is a sacrifice being made for the purpose of having the general survive the night.

>asp

>>170635485
I just watched some of this livestream and Braben seems like a nice guy. You can tell he cares about his game. He makes it sound so interesting. As someone who only played like 20 minutes and got a refund, it makes me want to buy the game again. For example, that whackjob guy who set up away from the bubble near that alien tech and sightings, and how you have to travel to different NPCs for them to do stuff for you like upgrade your stuff. And how people set up their own colony on the edge of the galaxy and it takes a long time to get there.

It would be even cooler if you could fast travel to another galaxy and some people set up a colony there for people to travel to, and it could have all new stuff there in future patches.

But I'm not going to fool myself, I know there's not much more to the game than grinding credits to buy bigger ships.

If the game didn't have grind, I think I'd like it more.

>>170636195
If you have LTI, upgrade, don't melt for non-LTI. Also I don't see "data running" being anything interesting unless you get paid a lot from NPCs for it. People will just tell things to their org in spectrum, not make some kind of profession out of it, at least in my opinion.

>>170635954
no he's right it's all about market value of subjective princesses

and the control of their means of production!

also we EVE now

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>>170636195
Short version yes, long version yes because the herald will not have definable value until player orgs are producing stuff like jump coordinates that are valuable enough to be securely moved from system to system or the mission systems is developed enough for niche missions like that to be generated for a single hull to the exclusion of others. The prospector will be a money printer as soon as mining, which as been confirmed now as a 3.0 feature, is released. The prospector is SC's version of pic related, which is one of the cheapest and simplest ways for a newb to make money in EVE.

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Anyone been following the Infinity Battlescape development? I just read the Kickstarter emails occasionally but I haven't been paying attention too much.

>>170636401
it´s the Molyneux effect
a delusional person who has a dream and believes to the bitter end in it while failing in actually putting it out, at least he doesn´t run around talking about features like the no mans sky idiot

>>170636401
>>170636679
I'm still convinced that the whole 'selling point of interest coordinates' and whatever is gonna be a gimmick that nobody uses at best. Data running is probably just gonna be the same as trading, except it takes up some arbitrary space on your hard drive instead of cargo bay.

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>>170635004
>>170634725

>expecting 3.0 this year

>>170636401
Braben would be good if the things he said had any relevance to game mechanics
He should have stuck to writing video games in machine code

>>170636939
>I'm still convinced that the whole 'selling point of interest coordinates' and whatever is gonna be a gimmick that nobody uses at best
Pretty much what we said. The concept is cool, but I don't see it being much of an actual profession.

Prospector looks more viable, but I don't know about the interior, the Herald's interior is pretty comfy.

>>170636401
>People will just tell things to their org in spectrum, not make some kind of profession out of it
Coordinates will be too complicated to simply be passed around, additionally, we will likely not have an option to just type coords into the nav computer and warp to spot. You will have a navcom which will have an input slot that eats "data" items like coordinates and adding a data item to the navcom will add a bookmark for you to warp to. That data items will have to be passed out to anyone you want to give the location of say a hidden player owned warehouse to, and in order to get the passed out securely you will need to courier them not transmit them, in a way that they can be quickly and completely purged if the courier is intercepted, lest your coordinate data tokens be captured and your warehouse compromised. This will be an org thing for the most part. since individuals will not need so much to pass out that information to others, they will just use markers they have laid themselves.

So uh.. Star Citizen is lacking behind...

Elite Dangerous has already beaten it to the punch with character creation.

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>>170637056
Well, it's standard MISC.

>>170637175
That bed is tiny.

>>170637667
Its a cramped sleeping box on a working ship that probably also doubles as an escape pod. It's not meant for max comfy, like everything on misc ships its meant for max function.

>>170636939
well the actual play of it could be very different; data will take up no physical space and add no mass to your ship, as well it might be prevalent in war efforts so you'll potentially be finding more datarun jobs through dangerous territory and can do it in nimble little ships outfitted with some servers, basically being a CTF flag carrier through a warzone, or trying to stealth it through military/police patrols in the case of illegal info running, as opposed to just pushing a heavy load in a big slow ship and hoping like hell that nobody starts shooting at you.

>>170637156
and star citizen beat it to space legs by about 4 years.
>>170637175
does that space blankie come standard in all MISC ships? comfy as hell bth, hope they add one to the Freelancer, if only in a closet somewhere.
>item 2.0 ship customization
>change sheets?
>Standard White (4) (in use)
>Captain's Space (1) (stored)

>>170637156
is character creation actually in the game now? I'm doubtful given we haven't been spammed with pink mohawk dykes and Braben facsimiles in this thread. SC just teased theirs the other day as well, so it seems like they're roughly on par.

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I like those new shit kits.

>>170638216
Soon, as in, a week or two.

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>>170637156
EVE beat all of you ;-)

>>170638093
>and star citizen beat it to space legs by about 4 years.
>muh cryengine had it

lmao fuck off

>>170638681
fetal alcohol syndrome

>>170638707
That's a pureblood finn!

>>170638665
Two Weeks™ you say?

>>170638681
some real fishmouth happening there

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how come AtV doesn't use clips of player gameplay in between segments anymore? it would seem ideal, now that they've got call of duty mode surely providing an endless stream of sick w33dl0rd MLG strats

>>170640543
>over 900 years into the future
>still using iron sights on rifles and pump shotguns

>>170641168
people still hunt with bows and spears anon. if it works, why make it more complicated than it needs to be?

>>170641168
They just work™

>>170641168
No one wants to pew with lasers

>>170641168
oh, I won't defend the pump on the shotgun though, that's fucking retarded. strictly a gameplay balance decision from concept stage that it didn't end up needing thanks to all it's other flaws, yet persisted from the original design.

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>>170639387
Enough time to squeeze fehu/quince for what they're worth, or for 17 Draconis to go back into civil war.

>>170641168
Star citizen is not speculative fiction about the future of humanity in 900 years. It is a game of cold war era technology set to roman politics in a space. Spoiler Alert:Earth is Roma, Terra is Byzantium The Vanduul are the migration period germannic tribes that eventually sacked Rome.

for 25 years from 1990 to 2005ish video games were all emulating the second world war in terms of mechanics of combat, because that's what was widely known and understood. Since 2005ish we have been emulating the Cold War as it becomes widely known and understood due to the declassification of its secrets. In 20 years or so well star emulating the "War on Terror" and all gameplay will consist or arresting enemy combatants like they're drug dealers, convene secret committees to secretly sentence individuals to death by drone strike, sitting in a FOB in a grey brown shithole deciding whether to kill yourself or go on a civilian murdering spree, and alternate stints of stand on a street corner waiting to be carbombed/sniped or driving around waiting to strike an IED.

>>170641891
The fact that in an effectively infinite galaxy, you all are always paying attention to like less than a half dozen systems is really telling about the value of a huge world in general and about the "mile wide inch deep" nature of E:D in particular.

>>170642362

The part that really upsets me is that 17D and Quince are one of the few unique systems in the game because of the missions they give out. After the update, there will be very little reason to make the trip out to either system.

It'd be nice if they didn't use level scaling and if enemies got harder and payouts got bigger the further you went from the center of the bubble but here I go again with wishful thinking.

17d is in unrest boys

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SO when E:D is inevitably BTFO by SC how many of you are going to name your SC ships and bases after E:D things for Nostaliga's sake.

UEES Vision
Asteroid Base Quince
Bulk Merchant Carrier 17 Draconis

>>170644367
By that time I will have my own irl spaceship tho.

I'll call it Lust for jaypegs.

>>170642045
Cold war technology would be all about long range missile slinging at targets you can barely see, not manned turrets and close range dogfights. Still, it seems kinda boring that no one wants to really think about what the future could plausibly be

>>170644367
When 2.3 hits I'm naming my FAS "Still Waiting for SC 3.0"

>>170642045
>gameplay follows the declassification of documents
What the fuck?

>>170642045
>for 25 years from 1990 to 2005ish
>25 years
The rest of your post is just as retarded as this

elite sale when?

CIG is streaming on their twitch channel, Sean Tracy is talking about character customization now.

>>170644853
We're still trying to figure out why we should leave the planet in the first place let alone what kind of guns we would need to bring.

>>170642045
>for 25 years from 1990 to 2005ish video games were all emulating the second world war in terms of mechanics of combat, because that's what was widely known and understood. Since 2005ish we have been emulating the Cold War as it becomes widely known and understood due to the declassification of its secrets. In 20 years or so well star emulating the "War on Terror" and all gameplay will consist or arresting enemy combatants like they're drug dealers, convene secret committees to secretly sentence individuals to death by drone strike, sitting in a FOB in a grey brown shithole deciding whether to kill yourself or go on a civilian murdering spree, and alternate stints of stand on a street corner waiting to be carbombed/sniped or driving around waiting to strike an IED.
all of this is fucking retarded

That trailer is neat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQTj8dTOC0
Getting alien vibes from it

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>>170645338
It's simple, galactic lebensraum

>>170644853
I mean early cold war, like Korea to Vietnam.
A mix of gun fighters with primitive missiles, prop and jet bombers with turrets but also guided weapons. Weapons are manually aimed not automated. Large ships that focused more on support than direct combat. Ubiquity of automatic weapons in close combat but before the introduction of stuff like drones and hyperwar making the individual combatant little more than a vulnerable fragile target that must be protected from instadeath. We're well past "WW2 In space" like star wars or 90s era space games, but were not even approaching the level of automation of say the early 1990s, when combat really started to become a point and click adventure for the faction with the most money and by extension most advanced standoff range toys.

>>170645013
Writers and designers take inspiration from existing tech and established fiction more than they just pull mechanics out of thin air. As the military's toys and tricks come out of classification they get written into fiction, and non fiction alike as the latest and greatest, even though the technology has existed for decades behind closed doors. Art emulates life. Speculative Art does sometimes inspire life, but most of the time its the other way around.

>>170645179
yeah well, what about it, 15 years, happy?

>>170645702
Have we started the fire?

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>>170645702
Anyone else ready to remove xeno?

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>>170646434
>polaris raids deep into alien space

>>170645702
is there a cultural thing about not washing your face?

mfw I could watch Sean Tracey all day.

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>>170645702
>>170646176
>>170646434

>thargoids update
>fast and maneuverable, ass glue unless you have A rate thrusters
>buffed shields
>ignore heat damage
>some kind of hitscan weapon that will probably be more fucked up than rails
>never miss, chaff and ECM do nothing against them
>they pull you out of warp at random and trying to fight against them is an endurance battle
>but you better fucking do it because power creep from new alien engie blueprints

I am confident this is how it will go down.

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>>170645702
I want that ASP kit and skin.
>that rust
>them bolted on fuel tanks and piping
>them welded edgy spikes
And I don't even drive the ASP.

>>170646092
>Writers and designers take inspiration from existing tech and established fiction more than they just pull mechanics out of thin air.
Oh, that's right. Remember all these weapons from Quake and Doom and Unreal Tournament being based on real life ones? No wait, they were completely made up for the sake of looking and playing cool. Actual WW2 games actually came later and were a step down from that, but still not in the slightest representative of actual WW2 combat.
>As the military's toys and tricks come out of classification they get written into fiction
>even though the technology has existed for decades behind closed doors.
Yeah, like what? What games since 2005 use "declassified Cold War weapons"? You're talking out of your ass. Why the fuck would we get "War on terror" games in 20 years? We already know everything about it, and it doesn't make for fun gameplay.

>>170645702
>HOOOOOONNNNK

Does everything involving big aliens or monsters have to use that sound in the trailer?

>>170644853
>Still, it seems kinda boring that no one wants to really think about what the future could plausibly be

I think we are actually in a golden age in term of of space game,
You'll find out it's hard to make a realistic game when the laws of physics do not cater to the sort of gameplay you hoped for. You need to make concession to make it playable, more to make it fun.

Have some CODE (or CHODE if that's your mileage)
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sealofapproval.php#id--Computer_Simulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjWEGlot35Y

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Gravity of the planet will effect the flight model in SC.

>>170647315
So shouldn't every ship's upward thrusters be many times more powerful than other thrusters?

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>>170647378
space magic

>>170644853
Like >>170647287
is saying, the future of space combat if it ever happens will be extreme ranges, hypervelocity weapons and unmanned systems instakilling each other before the target even recognizes the attack. A human in such an environment would just be a fragile and vulnerable weak link that had to be protected, at the expense of combat effectiveness.

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Melee system scheduled later this year in SC.

>>170647710
So in 10 years, got it

>>170647378
Or all the thrusters are so obscenely powerful that the upward thrust necessary to maintain hover is tiny relative to potential. Our main engines can accelerate several tons of starfighter to .2c in seconds, that's many orders of magnitude more than is need to hold a geostationary hover.

Main engines = .2c In system jumping and Pulses for AB. Mav thrusters are tiny in comparisons but still far more powerful and efficient than anything that exists in the real world today.

>>170647287
>>170647538
Yeah I guess you're right. Near-ish future space combat would be like even more terrifying submarine warfare for human crews

>>170647830
I would hardly call the Quantum Drive an ordinary thruster, since activating it doesn't kill your crew from the instant G forces.

>>170647710
I don't want to punch people, I want to cruise through the troposphere of a gas giant

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>>170646951
Apparently, I wonder if theres some law requiring it. Or maybe (((They))) mandated either on their own or as a form of conditioning passed down to them by their ayy lmasters.

>>170646671
what

>>170647996
optional content friend, it's not going to be super advanced at least in the first iteration either.

>>170646951
That's what it sounds like in game though

>>170645702
Thargoid genocide when?

>>170648363
THE ONLY GOOD BUG IS A DEAD BUG

>>170648423
EDF EDF

>>170647378
is this the case with current vtol jets? suddenly the spaceplane designs everyone moans endlessly about make a lot of sense, huh?

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>>170648363
thargoid genocide best day of my life

soon

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>>170648423
>>170648363
Are you doing your part?

I wish they would sell the chrome paint job for the Cutter again

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/Pax-East-Free-Fly

free fly is up

>>170648491
I don't know about all VTOL jets but the F-35 turns its backwards thruster downwards

How much do I have to shell out in SC to get a good starting ship? I followed the directions in the pastebin and got a LN but it seems pretty crappy.

>>170648363
The instant they actually take off the fucking plot armor.

>>170648989
earn some REC by doing races and vanduul swarm, get yourself some decent rate of fire guns and harder hitting missiles

>>170648989
also, acknowledge that ben is a cancer who has fully embraced pay to win; just avoid direct combat with vanguards, sabres, superhornets, etc and only take shots at them when they're engaged elsewhere. there really needs to be class brackets for AC ship combat, but everyone is currently thrown into the same arena and nobody seems to see a problem with that.

>>170648363
You damn millennials, if you want to just blow shit up go play call of duty. This is Elite, not just some childish "game"

fly safe o7

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>>170648989
LN is good, it wont compete head on with the $170 wallet warrior fighters, but its solid, If you really want to spend more money, You can get an Avenger for like $60, but honestly don't buy ships with a power scale in mind they get rebalanced a lot and none of them are "worth it"
And I've spent a lot of money on this game, for reference.

You'll be better off for using the LN that you have to gid gud, it can and does kill Hornets and Sabres once you learn how to fly and fight properly.

also >>170648778 a free fly just went up so if you really just want to fly an OP pussywagon go there and punch in that promo code to use a sabre for the week, however, that whit will spoil you. It's a dedicated interceptor with no cargo capacity or utility function. Going fast and shooting things is all it does.

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>>170649578

Made a few adjustments.

>>170648778
Time to try this game out.

I've been following these generals for years and never spent a cent.

Will I get unplayable lag if I'm Australian?

>>170651212
Aussie servers are up friendo make sure to turn off p2p in the launcher before downloading

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>>170651254
The true Australian experience.

Cheers for the tip, I assume that P2P is slower than direct download?

>>170651534
p2p can cause a bug during the last 1% of the download.

>>170651212
Don't worry, just because you're Australian doesn't mean you'll miss out on the unplayable lag.

This is one of those weeks where the Friday show is better than ATV. Ben is a terrible host with terrible communication skills he should almost never been in front of a camera. Having the leads have a back and forth explaining things that they are working on makes for a great show.

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>>170638456
I hope they are available for more than just those two ships.

>>170651254
phillipines servers for oz I think, so shouldn't be much different than the lag most of NA gets, since they have chosen to go with one fucking server location per continent for the time being.

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>>170650392
Elegiggle.

>>170651909
wheps meant for >>170651212

>>170651954
>southern right whale
I never knew I could have a whalefu but that thing looks too much like some kind of 40k battleship not to love

>>170651626
How many millions of dollars does quality coding like this cost?

>>170651769
How bad is it though?

>>170652060
>>170651909
Most "Australian" servers are Singaporean or somewhere else so I'm not surprised.

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>>170648363
don't get your hopes up
if there's one thing I've learned from playing ED, it's that if FDev can make something that sounds cool into something mediocre and boring, they will

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very mixed thoughts on the multicrewery as turrets are simply somewhat weak except for their supreme fire opportunities, but people don't mount very much for a gunner to use. a fighter on the other hand is quite fun to go and get dirty with in conjunction with a mothership and by itself throws out considerable damage. need to try out missiles as a crewman but this will be an excellent way for people to share the wealth in their combat ability. a nice period in a hazres can easily amount to a pretty penny especially if bounties are now duped as opposed to split, and the immediacy of joining another vessel is pretty good. all a matter of having people drop in at the right time so they have stuff to do as i can't interact with the engineer base it seems, dunno about stations

>locked in this guy's anaconda as he went afk

>>170653869
Photo mode looks really nice

>>170653274
>>170648363
>Thargoid attack!
>It's a CG
>Deliver [Supplies] to [XYZ Port]
>The forumdads start shitting themselves in excitement and the forums erupt in a hellfire of petty arguments and attempts at organization
>The CG is won
>Frontier write up a short galnet story about the brave pilots running alien blockade even though there are no aliens in game outside of the cutscene interdiction
>Some forum artist makes a shitton of money from dads commissioning their ships fighting aliens even though these are the same people that have never won a fight or complain regularly that space combat is ruining the game
>Nothing change in game except maybe a brief ship discount somewhere.

>>170653869

Gunner position is completely useless, no arguments, but the fighter stuff is great.

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Just been B A M B O O Z L E D by frontier, was mindlessly doing high value (as in 2-300k, still new), the destination was Hutton Orbital.

I now understand I've made a terrible mistake.

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>>170654008
it's quite neat. here's another as i sit imprisoned

looks like you balance between focus and blur i'll need to dick with it more

>>170654262
yeah i have a cutter of my own rigged up for the gunner's delight but i still need to see its effectiveness with my special someone once we're able. only a long range high yield cannon on helm but there's like ~3500mj worth of thermal damage in two packhound pods at the copilot's disposal, heat lasers otherwise in hopes they'll become cool again one day, mediums long range and the larges are efficient.

4690
Fury Nitro
16GB of RAM
and its all installed on an SSD

REEEEE I WANT MORE THEN 45 FPS REEEEEE

>>170654719
The PTU has shit framerate do to netcode try Arena Commander/Star Marine for a better benchmark.

>>170655116
Im talking about SM here.

Also holy shit, captcha had me pick street signs 8 times.

I don't even think SC looks that good desu

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>>170654719
>REEEEE I WANT MORE THEN 45 FPS REEEEEE

Networking is fucking everything atm. The Hanger has the most stable frame rates and the most wrist slitting lack of excitement; reminds me of another game... just cant think of the name at the moment...

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daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

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Almost there lads

Oh shit, things are cheap in the beta
I can finally try out a conda

>>170659840
Don't forget you're still a filthy plebian.

>>170660151
(y)

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But where did it go?

i'm broken down out in space what do i do?

>>170657189

Networking shouldn't reduce framerate.

>>170660950
What do you mean, "broken down". Did you run out of fuel or what?

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>>170659419
But why?

>>170661113
no i got into a fight and almost died. i googled it and found the answer though (reboot/repair). pretty crazy flying around with no windscreen haha

>>170661404
yeah me too anon, I like to fly with the space in my hair

>>170661404
>>170661536

>canopy breaks
>fly through space
>scoop fuel from the corona of a star
>fly through interdimensional space at several thousands of times the speed of light
>never get radiation poisoning

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>>170661278
Autism.

90 minutes of my life well spent. I decided to try and work out the whole pledge to a superpower thing while I was en route.

Still couldn't make head nor tails of it

>>170662337
The only reason to pledge to a power is for their unique item, and the only one that is really worth anything is the prismatic shields from the anime waifu.

>>170662191
Onionhead cures cancer, didn't you know?

How long does the terraforming process take in Elite? A couple hundred years?

In Elite 2.3 can you infinitely change your character's look?

>>170662943

Nah, the server update usually takes less than an hour.

>>170662337
Just pledge to anime girl and get ur greeny shields in 3 weeks time.

>>170662818
Is there no trading/cargo item?

>>170663962
>that weak af chin

Looking for something spacey to watch on the other monitor after being done with the expanse, which star trek is the best? New generation or voyager?

>>170664925
ds9

>>170664759
Yeah, but unless you want to do RP autism it's not worth it.

The basic way to get the items is to pledge for 3 weeks, and in the third week go shoot enough of another faction to get rating 3. It is 30 merits per kill so it only takes 25 kills. Also make sure you don't shoot at Powers aligned to the same Superpower as your faction.

>>170664925
Voyager is pretty good if you have never seen it, DS9 is more rewatchable. I'm ambivalent about Enterprise, they cut it short right when it was getting good.

>>170662337
Oh and I forgot to mention, don't pledge when you're a noob. You will get raped.

>>170659419
Why does this even count as one star system?

Trying to get through happy hour at 1.25x. The audio is so fucking bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Naeu3HuxY

>One of the cameras is way out of focus
>Audio is clipping hard while output is very low.
>What is even gain structure?

The best gem so far was at 7:54, I won't spoil that question.

>>170663962
>hand-knifing intensifies

>>170666617
>the what now?

kek

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Can someone confirm for me: all I have to do now is grind 750 merits, wait 6 more days, and buy some packhounds?

>>170666617
lmao, i hope they never add the pvp slider.

>>170670907
clearly they never will. CR bullshitted it up on the spot to get them off his ass, it has never been a priority for any studio or team .

>>170671248
>CR bullshitted it up on the spot to get them off his ass
That sounds familiar.

>>170671443
In this case it's a good thing.

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>>170669701
>>170670907
Based Sean Tracy has a genuine disgust for carebears. Best part of my day

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Ausfag reporting back in.

SOON.

>>170671969
I didn't know you island crims got 2.2MB/s

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>>170672515
I mail my internet requests in by stagecoach and the Post Office sends out a covered wagon filled with USBs.

I'm new to SC and confused. How do I even get to my ship in PU?

>>170673243
did you figure out how to spawn it? there should be a hud marker to lead you right to it

>>170673243
go to the big room with the kiosk monitors. select your ship and follow the signs to the landing pad.

>>170672856
Don't lie m8, I know exactly what happens. You get individual packets delivered by trained kangeroos.

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>>170673706
sometimes the emus open my mail and confiscate packages from my family so that they can keep them for themselves

send help

>>170673369
>>170673394
Strange. It tells me to touch the screen to request a ship, I do and absolutely nothing happens.

>>170674165
lol. thats actually a bug. not even kidding, walk in a circle and touch screens until it works. you have to wait a second at each one to see. It will draw the camera in when it works. sorry m80

>>170674165
ye they bug up sometimes, go outside onto the platform and float yourself to another strut, try there.

>>170648989
You need to swap out the guns.

LN is popular because it has more gun slots on it than ships up til you hit the 90/100 dollar mark

>>170674280
>walk in a circle and touch screens until it works

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Star citizen, ladies and gentlemen.

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>>170673845
You must right the wrongs of your fathers and wage a righteous war against the emu horde. Godspeed anon.

>>170674383
How many millions of dollars does coding this good cost?

>>170674280
>>170674312
I'll try that then.

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>>170674383
I just hope he doesn't own a Mustang... or Cutlass or Aurora or 300 series. He hasn't even gotten to the ship yet.

>>170674383
that doesn't actually work, you have to go to another strut or reload. also, you are trying way too hard to act like it's a big deal.

>>170674562
funny, I just saw this exact shitpost about SC on /v/. do we have a shareblue in the goons?

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>>170674581
I may or may not own one of those. What's wrong with them?

>>170674594
it usually works after about 3 or 4 screens if it is going to work. I've crossed struts and it still didn't work. Sometimes the server is just fucked.

>>170674706
crouch when you are inside the ship. If your head clips on the geometry, you're going for a ride.

>>170674594
>>170674842
>that doesn't actually work

Other anon thinks differently.

>just walk in circles, kappa
>the game might work if you go fast enough

>>170674842
>>170674706
that's really only a problem with the mustang, the rest of those are fine.

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Australia wins in the end.

>>170675137
I hope those kangaroos were worth it, Anon. Prepare for a wild ride.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cx2bX7_yt0

>you will never take your sidewinder friends into the middle of a capital ship fight and last more than two seconds
>you will never watch filthy imperials take a hot, sticky broadside right to the bridge
>you will never be properly compensated for your flying ability in the end
why live, cmdrs

>>170675137
is your background a guy dicking a kangaroo?

does free fly give access to star marine?

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>>170675103
I t-pose every time I come in the cockpit door of my Cutlass. The floor portal is permanently off limits.

Aurora is ok until the seat launches you through the roof.

350r is so fucking brutal. no mobiglas in the seat or else broken gunsight. ceiling is at shoulder level. You only get a few entries and exits before it has had enough.

>>170675546
alright was not aware of that shit, only problems I've had with the LN though is that when you get out and try to get back in from space the animations are all fucking stupid and send the ship spinning sometimes

>>170675695
I haven't had my LN go apeshit for a while, but I'm real careful to walk straight, and I have the trick to the seat down.

Cutlass is dead to me until the new one is released.

350r is like a bad bitch you shouldn't call but you keep finding yourself there anyway.

What the best way to make these ingame credits?

>>170676414
Furry RP

>>170676414
what are you hoping to buy? the pastebin covers this, but there's different currencies right now, one for personal gear and one for ship gear, and they're earned in different modes. ship gear currency (REC) is earned in AC. personal gear currency (for rifles and shotguns, armor and clothes) is aUEC, and earned by doing missions in Crusader.

>>170676875
A few upgrades for the ship I suppose? Tried to do a mission and got completely fucked by an enemy pilot. So best course of action is to spam AC?

>>170678098
Racing is the best REC/hr by far. Use whatever you got to complete at least one lap, grind that for a bit, and get enough credit to get a combat ship for AC or a M50 to farm faster REC for weapons and components

>>170678098
Use the ship you get from the PAXEast freefly.

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>>170675327
>Getting messages in Hyper
>Federal Battleship losing to an Imperial one and having to call for help
>Flying that close to a battleship and not getting shot

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>>170646759

Why must you remove all hope, anon

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>>170675373
No.

First impressions:
Singleplayer runs fine but multiplayer is FPS laggy, so their netcode must be shit.

The HIGH FIDELITY first person movement system is fucking annoying because it's hard to make the small movements necessary to get into the clickbox to activate your environment.

Ship combat was pretty fun.

Environments looks nice but very generic.

Anyone have a link to the newsletter?

Where is the monthly recap?

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>>170660975
It does when the server makes all the clients wait for all the data that it sends to everyone for every frame rendered for every object on the server. You ever wonder why you get a massive lag spike every time someone spawns into Star Marine? A good summary in this thread on the CIG forums.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/335037/summary-of-server-and-network-issues

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Caterpillar or Constellation?

>>170683682
>pre-ordering DLC

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>>170683682
If you want true general purpose go for the Connie. Cat for the hauling and the giant dick waving aesthetic. Though the Cat will have modules to make it better we don't have anything concrete to go off of at the moment. The Cat is just a bigger ship not gear for combat, which the Connie is a true multi-role ship which can do combat.

Don't take the current (2.6.1) performances of the ship seriously. Last I heard CIG was toying with the fully laden maneuvering of each ship.

>>170684134
The Caterpillar will always be my shipfu and you can't stop me from being a giant inefficient drain on resources in my suboptimal loadout.

>>170681817
the netcode is indeed flaming garbage, good observation. they're basically using cryengine legacy code, a full replacement is one of the touted features of the next big release.

>>170684134
>tfw no closet, comfy bridge area, observation chair or private toilet
oh yeah, and no bridge engine room.

>>170685454
He was trying to save the squad!

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What message are you going to beam to carebare AFK miners just before you start raping them with your shipfu of choice because whatever you enjoy flying is the right ship for you?

>>170685956
>implying we won't be leaving derelict looking ships in prized mining areas to prey on greedy miners and take their ship without a shot.
warnings would just scare them off.

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>>170685956
"Stand and deliver."

>>170684134
>no shower
>no kitchen
>crew quarters only accessible from the bridge if you walk through the engine room or climb down a ladder in one of the cargo modules.
This shit eats at me inside, i like the ship but it fucking knaws at me how dumb the layout is.

Is the Federal Gunship worth using?

>>170686597
>blow open your own ship
>hide in a box
>greedy miner gets in to steal it
>murder him
>take his ship
I like this idea.

>>170686963
It's sliced down the middle. There's a kitchen and shit on the other side of the crew room, and the shower is clearly marked in the picture.

The ladder from the bridge descends directly into the crew quarters, so no you don't need to go through the engine room.

Also
>knaws
gnaws.

>>170687236
I'm talking about the rest of the ship, that crew module in the pic doesn't even exist.

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>>170687129
>the oft overlooked honeypot
A pirate Cat would be the perfect cover. Who could resist a free Cat?

>>170687336
I see.

so does/will the social interface (spectrum?) tie all characters under one account name?
tired of this new trend in MMOs; can't maintain anonymity on an alt

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>>170687349
exploring derelict cats will be prime spoop

>>170688006
one would hope so but so far it's shaping up like elite where you only get one character. it seems like alts will be expensive and uncommon.

>>170688006
you have three names, character name, account handle, and private account login. character name used to show in game but for some inexplicable reason they changed it to your handle. when it's more fleshed out hopefully they'll change it back. probably the issue was it's just your forum name and can be changed any time.

Anyone want to talk about guns and politics?

>>170690345
how do we inflict the most damage possible to Goons through the economy system?

>>170690345
the electric shotgun is so bad it makes me want to murder a senator.

>>170690612
>makes me want to murder a senator

Makes me want to murder the President of the United States

I'm probably going to strap a bomb to myself and charge his motorcade near Mar-a-lago.

Anyone else want to help with my terror attack? I've already got this anon.

>>170690876
>fishing for v& material anywhere but /pol/
I meant a UEE senator.

>>170691286
But anon last thread told me all boards on 4chins are the same

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tfw operating at maximum operational capacity only to get murdered by some dink in the sky. who thought making 'sniper glitches into the skybox' would make a fine mechanic?

>>170691827
>confusion

Not even once

>>170692101
do you scan every scrap of media posted here for one of your trigger names just so you can complain about it?

>>170692264
Yes.

Now fuck off and take your ved buddies with you.

>>170691286
enjoy being on an Advocacy watchlist

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>>170692372
just for you anon, guaranteed no chat window to hurt your butt on.

>>170692792
how cool would it have been to activate some kind of magnetic anchor mode on your wrist to pin you to the side of that thing and let you free aim with the other arm

As a proud Retaliator owner, my biggest fear is not so much it has no role, but no target. The cat seems to be the only ship it has any value attacking, anything smaller is basically fully fucked in a single hit, if not destroyed. Starfarers as they are currently are just too tanky, requires all 6 to kill it, and by the 5th its completely dead and has no chance of salvaging the ship. Basically everything is either too weak that it really doesnt deserve a torpedo, or too strong where youll need something else, or multiple tallies. I guess ill have to wait for Hull series to show up. But i feel that with their design the torps will end up nuking most of the cargo depending where it hits.

>>170692890
I'd settle for all manner of aim not being completely gimped and randomized when in zero g. guns wave all over, grenades go where they will, it's absolutely anti tactical. you basically have to stop and brace to do anything

>>170641578
Pumps are useful for cycling the action when firing rounds that are too underpowered to cycle properly, such as beanbags.

Or for allowing the weapon to single-load overly long projectiles.

>>170662818
>not wanting packhound racks on all hardpoints for full Gundam mode

>>170693507
the shotgun fires electricity from a battery.

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>>170692792

>>170693814
Never mind, that's fucking retarded

>>170694623
>haven't been here since /scg/ was merged with the spregs game
>see this meme
>be sad this faggot still lurks here
I'm guessing this thread is filled with someone asking really dumb questions and samefagging replies.

faggot

>>170697284
>>be sad this faggot still lurks here

That's because the faggot and his friends decided to sup from the cup of VISION and began sucking Braben's dick.

And now we're stuck with them due to this merge.

This was a mistake.

So, how dead is CH Products?

>>170698403

I've got a bunch of their gear I picked up from thrift stores. Must be 10+ years old and all it needed to get into perfect working order was some cleaning and lubrication.

The parts inside are all standard/easily serviced microswitches/pots and everything's hooked up with QD connectors so quite frankly I'm probably set for life even if the company went under.

>>170692969
> guys my purpose built military torpedo bomber is too good at destroting things with torpedoes

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>>170692969
HULL ? Anon, that would be like attacking a cargo ship with military anti-ship missiles.
The Retaliator is made to destroy heavily armored capital ship and fortress.

>using a 10000000000000000000000$ torpedo on a semi-trailer truck

>>170709928
Most pointless helmet design of the year goes to.......

>>170709928
the top half makes sense. The jigsaw on the bottom? Not so much. It may save your face, sure, but it will still open up after taking a hit or two?

So once this comes out, any fuckhead can jack your ship and there's nothing you can do about it?

>>170710705
I'm pretty sure there are some locks and other security measures planned down the line

>>170710705
It's going to be so profitable developing hacks to jack that $2000 ship and sell it on the black market.

>>170710705
There's insurance.

>>170710847
So what do you think will happen if someone jacks a ship? It persists and the victim recieves another? That's just a good way to duplicate Idrisies

>>170710906
Yeah I don't know how the fuck that's going to work at all. Either insured ships won't be able to be stolen which is all sorts of gay or there will be duping/RMT out of the ass.

>>170711003

Basically you can steal the ship, but it's not easy to do, you can't insure it, and every PvP bounty hunter sees you glowing in the dark on their radar with big arrows pointing you, and every cop in the system goes nuts trying to kamikaze kill you.

If you manage to get to "pirate" space and the pirates don't silence your farts, you can go on a station and if they don't shank you, you can pay more than the cost of just buying a new ship to get a chop shop to legalise it.

>>170712347

So you can steal the ship, and your buddy can collect the bounty? FREE MONEY FOR ALL

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>>170712771

My guesses:

1. Stolen ships will be hard to sell, if they will be worth anything at all.

2. Stolen ships will most likely be destroyed on sight by law enforcement/military all over the galaxy.

3. All bounty hunters will get updates on the observed positions of all stolen ships.

>>170710906
for more expensive ships I expect a "cooldown" on being able to claim a replacement
which would be gay if you're unlucky enough but not even CIG is that stupid to prevent duping

>>170712919
>someone steals your ship
>bounty hunter blows it up
>jackass just respawns and you're out of a ship
Nice

>>170713107
>>170710847

>>170713268
maybe the payment for a bounty hunter would be better if he steals the stolen ship from the pirate and brings it back

>>170712919
>it's 2045, SC has finally been released
>hackers develop cheats since there's no antihacking software
>auto kill crew aboard expensive ship, hyjacking it
>10,000,000,000 bounty
>ship destroyed by friend of hacker, bounty collected
>rinse and repeat
>hackers real world trade the money
>huge amounts of money pouring into the economy
>CIG struggle to control the blackmarket
>CR personally bans trading either money or ships
>ORGs dead in the water
>People lose interest in the game
>Money becomes so cheap since no one cares about SC
>People sell their accounts for cheap
>Botters buy up big ships and accounts, connect them up to a big bot net
>Huge battles fought by computer programs
>Newbies can't compete with fully outfitted ships
>Star citizen has lost 99% of its playerbase
>CR announces on his deathbed he's ready to make the proper SC sequal and only need $1,000,000,000 to do it

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>>170713587
>mfw SC will be 100% AI controlled players.
>mfw SC will be the training ground for future SkyNet.
>mfw the first Terminator is born out of a AI pool molded by the experience and training in SC.

>>170714216
>TFW no kittens GF.
Feels worst man.

>>170714216
Sauce me

>>170715259
Are those Artificial Academy 2 models? I'm fucking dying.

>>170714923
her name is Kittens

>>170715618
Is it a camwhore or an attention whore?

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>>170663962
I find the design to be lazy, not stylish, too contemporary, and they fucked up the hat which looks than the modern 8 point US marine hat.

When the design of fictional Marines have worse uniforms than modern Marines something is wrong.

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Now even the RSI forums are pessimistic about a 3.0 this year.

Seems like everyone is pissed at CR for making us believing we were so close last year.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/374420/lets-talk-about-3-0-status#latest

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fresh from plebbit

>>170663962
>Armor pocket doesn't cover the heart.
>Side pocket is covered by holster
>Looks like the Wal-Mart off brand uniform design
Good thing I'm going to be a pirate, that shit looks awful.

>>170715754
/soc/ poster from years ago.

motherless com/G213F42A

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>>170718252
>tfw you almost kill the general accidentally.

>>170719080
fuck off cunt, the general is dead when I say it is

>>170719080
Why does the ship with the most inherently dangerous job get such a beautiful strut free front window? Based on every other ship, the Prospector front window should be Strutville, capital of Strutsylvania.

Hopefully we will get another jpeg with an uninterrupted canopy.

>>170718252
My penis thanks you

>>170717298
If 3.0 doesn't come out this year we riot! who's with me?

>>170720010
accomplishing what exactly?
Not baiting, asking. What would that accomplish at this point besides adding stress to the dev team who assuredly already stressed out by all the delays.

>>170720725
It was a borderline riot that got the production schedule to begin with. It seems like an info drought now, but we used to go months with no updates at all. They either need to deliver or explain their position. 2.6.2 will be very telling because of serialized variable.

>>170697736
>>170697284
funny how you lot are always the ones bringing it up

>The ED forumdads all upset about the lack of immersion in multicrew and how it's too arcadey
Why are they mad about something that would never effect them? Multicrew doesn't work in solo.

>>170722683
I thought they didn't like combat. Why can't they just play one of those open source elite clones if they only play single player?

Is the >ASP the ultimate dad ship?

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>>170723819
yes

>>170706942
>>170705356
The issue is that as it is right now, if a starfarer can eat all 6 before exploding, then youll need a bunch to take on say just an Idris, let alone Javelins or Bengals/Vanduul shitter caps. At which point i think you can achieve much more operational efficiency with a polaris or two, rather then a full wing of tallies.

Its too good vs things its not really meant to go after, but not good enough vs its seeming intended targets.

>>170726131
all 6 torps*

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>>170723819
yes and some dads have metamorphosed into anacondas, but their existence with limited funds is iffy. such vessels aren't typically fit well either

cobra mk.3 is quintessential proto-dad whilst asp E is the meta-dad

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>>170727176
>Pic

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while I hate to bring that shit up, this is why you don't act like guns are scary and shit

>>170730418
Guns...knives....Glaives...

They are just tools.

Hotaru is the weapon. Hotaru uses her wits, and willingness. The mind is the best weapon. Hotaru isn't very strong, she's quite small and lithe. Waifish. Hotaru uses her abilities, knowledge, and skill. Tenacity and determination.

She also doesn't fight fair. She believes in honor off the battlefield, not on it. She'll shoot you in the back, set you on fire, cut you down with automatic weapons fire, and even use chemical agents.

...but she'd rush into a burning building without a second thought to save a child. She'd also try to stop some two bit hood from stealing an elderly lady's purse.

She's like Charles Bronson.

>>170730418
>15fps mocap extrapolated to 60fps
jesus that game looks horrible

>>170723819
I hate the sound that ship makes. I can't explore the galaxy in a ship that sounds like a WW2 plane

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5yuau7/saturday_afternoon_est_unplanned_spectrum_qa_with/
>Super Sabre, eh... never heard of it.
>Next concept ship is going to be the... I want to say so badly:/ But it's not the 600.
>End of March is most likely for the next concept.
>our next chunk of concepts that are being kicked off now are more support/career focused (the current ones that are finishing up now are largely combat oriented)
>I'm told that UEE authorities categorically deny the existence of any so-called Project Eclipse. I would encourage you to report any Citizens discussing such topics to the local Advocacy office.
Fucking Ben

>>170731553
Animation is hard, ok?

>>170731841
>WW2 plane
>not outright flatulence
>BRRAAAPPPP

Any anons up for farming crack from crashed satellites?

>>170731553
>meanwhile SC still isn't done with mess hall sitting animations

>>170732324
>I'll just pull the most recently shown thing out of my ass as a response
>they showed it because it's done
well done

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>people excited about http://imgur.com/a/Oll8S
>it's what they showed 4 years ago https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/13128-The-Star-Citizen-Economy

>>170732643
who is excited about it friend?

>>170732501
>they showed it because it's done
To quote the beard guy verbatim:
>We began with the mess hall tables located on the Idris
"Began" sounds different than "done", doesn't it?
And I quoted it because we saw work on these fucking animations for the past 2 fucking years

>>170732782
non 4channers

>>170732914
he didn't mean they began that day dipshit

they went indepth into those very animations months ago, he just used them as an example.

>>170732914
>With the help of Code and Design we also started researching better ways to implement the hundreds of animations we’ve developed over the years..
>We began with the mess hall tables located in the Idris with the goal of creating an entire eating experience for our characters, specifically for NPCs.
The animations are done, the current issue is getting the AI to choose what animations to play and to transition between them properly. They used the mess hall as an example because it's in S42.

Since there's almost no chance for space legs for 3.0, what do you think it will be instead?

>>170733442

Atmospheric landings.

>>170733174

> to transition between them properly

AKA, the hard bit. This is literally a multimillion dollar technology.

>>170733442
>>170733694
are space legs really so unlikely, now that you've got space faces?

>>170734890
It's not unlikely we'll be able to get out of our chairs in the next season, but I'm pretty sure a fully fledged out SpaceLegs expansion won't be 3.0. There are too many other things to do/flesh out.

>>170734890
They said today space legs is a really long way off

>>170711003
>>170712347
>>170712771
>>170712919
all this shit sounds like the speculation and theorycrafting in the ED community before the game came out

so nostalgic.

>>170735483
This is what I don't get. Recently they've said that both space legs and atmospheric planets are NOT soon.

What the fuck are they're working on then? What's the killer feature of season three?

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I woke up just kind of bleh today, not much going on, then I remember Sean destroying all carebear hopes for a PvP slider yesterday, and I think today is going to be all right.

>>170736061

If next season isn't atmospheric landings, it will be the Thargoid season.

>>170736061
that there will be no season three

>>170736207
>Thargoid season
That's kinda lame tbqh. I'm already tired of thargoid shit due to excessive blueballing. Dedicating a whole season to this would be rather underwhelming.

>>170736061
The only other "big" things I remember them talking about are player-built bases and capital ships

>>170736169
>Sean destroying all carebear hopes for a PvP slider yesterday
When did that happen?

>>170737072
See >>170666617

>>170730418
that fuckin backwards gun.

>>170730418
thank god CIG holds themselves to a higher standard than this

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>>170726131
The Starfarer, if military version, is a solid ship. Especially since its focused defense. And wasn't there something about it having much larger Shield than it class ? (the Polaris shield is said to be LESSER than capital ship class)

But yeah, a major rebalancing should happen if it's supposed to be non-negligible against some of the biggest Vanduul ship

>>170737072
It's everywhere on fake-news I suppose

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>multicrew update
>gives you a simple turret cam a la freelancer which doesn't work without a real person manning it for some reason (fuck broadside combat, go play rebel galaxy kiddo this is a sim!)
>your homie can launch in a small useless fighter tho bringing a separate ship such as a vulture kinda kills that feature huh
>useless for exploration or mining or anything else
>friends can't use your spare srvs just because
>push out a useless dress a doll system then say that actual walking around ghameplay for said doll isn't guaranteed
>this is done to simply rack cash from selling cosmetic items through the store because they have no idea what to sell in season 3 but need a stream of income anyway to pay for yayo and hoes

Bada bing.

An anon said many threads ago that an ex-Frontier employee gave an interview saying that the code base was a mess. Is there a link for that? Google comes up dry.

>>170739562
>season 3
what did he mean by this

>>170739639
I"m not sure he said it was a mess but it was Ben Parry he now works for CIG.

>>170739642
Season 3, as in the third season. Are you dumb or confused?