XCOM General - /xcg/

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First for Virgin killer sweater vahlen!

>>170342928
>crossover with Disgaea
And then my brain went to the Human World arc. And then my brain went to Earth Defense Force. And then my brain went to EDF 2017. And then my brain went to fighting vicious giant insects. Aaaand it's back to xcom.

>>170343683
Considering I haven't played those EDF games - when I played the Human World arc, and the invasion of the Human World scenario in Disgaea 1, I kind of likened the EDF to X-com.

So Disgaea 1, technically, became X-com vs. The Army of Darkness

So.

Anyone playing atm?

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>>170343801
>Aliens lose XCOM1 timeline
>The aliens pull an Event Horizon.

>Commander, where we're going, we don't need eyes to see.

Turns left until Sgt. /xcg/ is overcome by argon: 1

>>170346403
Technically, the mothership in Enemy Unknown tried to do that

>>170346525
It was self destructing by trying to turn into a miniture back hole.

Yes, I know black holes do fold space, but the end result would have been the destruction of earth. Not a portal into another dimension like the ship in event horizon did.

>>170347585
>not remembering the Volunteer survived

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>>170342928
Great now I want the Disgaea OST for XCOM2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnF_QGXLmo&list=RD3tnF_QGXLmo#t=1

Also a Laharl voicepack

>>170348808
Did he? I just remember it blowing up and then the end.

Anyone know how to get grimy's loot mod to work with Long war 2?

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do now spare collaborators they are an affront to humanity

>>170350267
He or she teleports away at the last second. Jake confirmed it

>>170342928
stop posting this image, i am actually uncomfortable from cringing this hard

>>170352659
Not gonna lie

I do wish there was a continuation from XCOM 1's ending.

>>170353981
>autism

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Vortigaunt mod when

>>170354014
The aliens can't possibly mount an offensive without their psionic network and the top ethereals. It would be mostly a cleanup operation.

>>170355215
so xcom 2 but we are advent?

So whats going on

>>170355834
No, it'd be more like we were committing genocide. The aliens rely on a mostly mindless clone army. Which is great when you're in control, no risk of insubordination or defection, etc. However that also means without the top leadership their forces are practically helpless.

>>170356696
Were mutons clones in ew i thought they weren't?

>>170357065
They almost certainly were unless they were genetically engineered while they were embryos. The autopsy reports that they are practically 100% muscle with no real fat. That can't possibly exist in nature. But they seem to retain some of their base societal instincts, given their proclivity for tribal tattoos and war cries.

>>170357460
i need to go back and play ew this stuff is interesting

Anyone replaying EW lately?

>>170358875
After all the long war I've played vanilla EW is boring

>>170358875

Only in the phone version.

I'm enjoying LW2.

Once you get past the learning curve it's pretty enjoyable. The main problem it has it lack of options in early game.

>>170342928

The previous Thread went down? What happened? I do get connection problems with vg/ quite a lot these past few days. Anyone else has the same problem?

>>170359371
people didn't bump it and it died

>>170343510

Pistols are Useful.

>>170359371
>go to sleep
>thread dead by morning
Maybe we've lost our Europe posters

Anons. ANons.

We need to keep this thread alive.

And we need to do so before March 10.

Stick together, people.

>>170360119
im not going anywhere worry not

>>170360119
Dude

Advent are aliens

>>170360119

Not going anywhere dude.

Anyone else having problems when posting pics?

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>>170361020
only some times but not in this general

guys please

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I've never seen the advent burger ad

is this in the vanilla game?

>>170363584
i think so but i can not confirm are you using any map mods?

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>>170362113

Testing.

is xcom 2 expansion coming or did lw2 replace it entirely

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>>170363687
I am using several, which is why I asked.

>>170364134
I don't know where this "LW2 is the expansion" meme came from but I hate it.

>>170364134
>lw2
u wot m8
We will probably know more March 10th (PAX East)

>>170364234
right dont know why that fly over me

>>170362113

Pic makes me want to do a haloCOM campaign.

How should i dress my troops?

Marines?
ODST?
Spartans?

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>>170365564
that could work i have some issues with the marine armor having poor textures in places but that just me

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Dear /xcg/.

I tried to follow https://imgur.com/a/5NRRW instructions to make custom classes after playing with animations, but when I try to run "Debugging" option, after showing launcher and clicking "play", it drops me this error instead.

What does it mean?

>>170366475
i have no experience with modding sorry

>>170366567

;_;

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>>170366682
>>170366475

So much for my small dream ;_;

>>170366475

IIRC it was a run as administrator issue for me, running the SDK under that should fix it.

(it may require setting Steam to run as admin as well, though I've kinda gotten lazy over the past few months and just used the normal game to test my mods)

>>170367386
Don't you fucking give up.

>>170367667

Y-you would like to actually see this?

>>170368079
not them but class mods are fun you should finish what you started

>>170368079
Hell yes.

Already got an affinity for Valkyria Chronicles, so getting to take a look & have a go on someones XCOM vision of it, is rather tingling.

>>170368478

I have very little free time but Im doing what I can.

But for now Im stuck with trying to find out, where game stores skills descriptions, so I can make new ones based on existing ones.

Even if I dont have ideas for new ones yet, except for obligatory resist crossfire and underbarrel grenade launcher/flamethrowers.

>>170368814

XComGame.int, you should see stuff like "[Suppression X2AbilityTemplate]" that should show you how to set up an ability description.

>>170367464

Okay, it indeed fixed issue.

Game run, froze when trying to generate map for testing purposes but at least when trying to modify squad, I could setup my class.

For some reason tho, when I tried to select it in character pool, it showed empty space instead.

>>170369057

Yeah, thats for description, but I was thinking about where the abilities are defined in first place.

You know, for example how in classdata.ini, you have defined tree with, for example "AbilityName="RapidFire" - but somewhere the ability must be defined first - what animations it use, what exactly it does and so on.

>>170371113

Presuming you didn't delete the example XComGame code modbuddy adds in by default, look for classes named something like X2Ability_RangerAbilitySet

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>>170371113

Okay, found them in steamapps\common\XCOM 2\Development\Src\XComGame\Classes

Its actual programming. But since people do upload their custom abilities, it should be doable. I have no idea what language is this, however.

This will take a while...

>>170373309
I still remember when they posted this on their twitter and it cropped it down to show the sectoid's ass in a very prominent way

>>170374872

ya really?

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>>170365564
>Marines?
>ODST?
>Spartans?

Why pick only one? Tier 1 is Marines, tier 2 is ODST and tier 3 is Spartans.

>>170359830

Probably playing For Honor... Or at least trying. That disconnect rate is terrible.

>>170360119
absolutely pathetic.

why not just let a general sleep and bring it back when it's needed?

this shit is unnatural and I hope your grandchildren deny you the peace of death when your bodies are cancerous and suffering.

>>170377593
I'm kinda surprised this isn't copy-pasta

>>170377593
oh yeah because we have such quality competitors such as SC2 general

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>Newfoundland for the first time
I was not ready fuck me.

>>170380567
hope you brought shotguns

>>170381365
All laser rifles.

>>170380567
It's simple, bring gernades or a MEC, someone with sprinter, and someone with a rocket launcher. At least one squadsight sniper recommended but not necessary.

Destroy every hanging shark on your way.

The rocket will make short work of the chryssalid pod activated halfway.

Position everone on overwatch on the top port just before entering the ship.

Make the sprinter dash on the top part of the ship and run to the controls, then make him go behind the console so chryssalids that jump up won't get them.

Next turn mad dash everyone to the pickup point.

Like all special missions, it's when you go in blind that it fucks you up.

>>170375347
what means this?

>>170381883
should be alright

>>170382068
Yeah I went in blind.
The second time through I was able to get it ez pz

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So guys, first time playing any xcom game, got enemy unknow for free thanks to one of you, i only have to say, that was quite a fun ride but i was dissapointed at the lack of main missions, and that silly ending.

My only survivor of the tutorial ended up being the only rookie with mental powers and he also was the last one to die on the ending to save the world, what the fuck?

was he a hero?

Also thanks for the spoilers for newfoundland, is that from EW?

>>170382881
Yeah it is and how you've managed to not find out about Newfoundland for 4 years should be commended.
And it really isn't a spoiler. Its like saying "Hey you're gonna get an escort mission sometime during your play through." Its just another special council mission.

>>170383309
i just started playing Xcom last month, also isn't there another game that looks a bit like the original X-CO but a bit modern in looks? how is it?

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Storytime? Does this mean no expansion?

>>170383631
Xenonauts. Its pretty okay from what I hear. I haven't gotten a chance to play through it yet though.

>>170383631
xenonauts. Not nearly as good as the original though. It's mechanically solid, but it is very un-polished sound and visually, and just feels really dull and lifeless.
You are much better off just playing the original x-com (with openxcom).

>>170383681
We've known it's called "story time" for a bit, people are just not sure what that means, or if that leaves out the possibility for other announcements or not.
In the end, I guess it could literally just be storytime (I hope not).

>>170383681
Live reading of the entire XCOM tie-in novel confirmed.

I hope they do special voices for the characters.

>>170383681
We don't know what "storytime" means. Most of us are assuming it's going to be the story of the expansion though.

>>170383681

Hopefully he means a hint of WHERE IS VAHLEN.

>>170383919
its alright gets VERY dull so take that as you will many here will say if you want to play an og xcom game you should just play the first game modded
>>170383681
now im worried

>>170383681

Storytime? Like the Vahlen x Commander fanfic, Grey style?

>>170383681

Did everybody forget that enemy within was teased at a behind the scenes with Firaxis panel at PAX East 2013?

Heck, it wasn't even a proper reveal either: the actual title of EW wouldn't known until around Gamescom, when they posted a modified teaser with the title at the end.

>>170382068
>At least one squadsight sniper recommended
snipers are the worst class for that mission in LW and I'm pretty sure in EW too

the lines of sight are shit and kiting is unreliable, plus unnecessary if you bring enough firepower to wipe a pod to start with

>>170384791
Basically what I did was, after I activated the airstrike, was wipe out the two pods that spawn when you're moving the guy that triggered the strike and then haul ass to the extraction point.
Unmodded, vanilla, normal difficulty.

>>170384791
Snipers are the only ones that overwatch hit reliably for me. All other classes tend to miss when it counts.

It was just a suggestion though since that's what worked for me.

>>170382881
No need to worry, the volunteer is confirmed to have escaped at the last second.

He's alive somewhere.

>>170367386
>>170367386
>>170367386

You giving up already? I thought gamers where all about challenges? Its hard because you just started, but over time it becomes easier. You wouldn't want some random nobody in the internet call you a lazy faggot now would you?

>>170386796

I managed to find out how to deal with this error, then went on to try to analyze, how devs coded existing skills to make new ones but this will take a while, since Im terrible programmer.

>>170389007
The Exalt laser weapons looked so much better.

>>170389007
ooo neat is this your making

>>170389007
ooo neat is this your making

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>>170389150

Have to agree there.

>>170389847

Something from DA.

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>>170390447

Repeat?

>>170391974
yeah idk why that happened

>>170389007
>Did you see the size of that hand cannon he was pointin' at us? It was bigger than him!

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>>170392080

In longwar 1.0, Why does long-pressing the activate key teleport my selected soldier to that spot? I can essential free teleport around the map without using any actions.

I have about 200 hours in my file and it just recently started doing this. Did I activate some sort of dev console?

>sectoids somehow envelop people in green cocoons
>they have no mouths or genitals
>they have butts

Are they.. butt cocooning people?

>>170396326
Never heard of this

>>170397707
Didn't you watch the intro cinimatic? It's those canisters that full from the sky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2o2iW4mPR8

>>170396326
you can move units to the cursor with the console, I am not sure what you mean with teleporting without using that command though

what do you mean by activate key? the N key? like for collecting meld without clicking?

just redownloaded Xcom2
Xcom2 was pretty damn trash on release and I pretty much stopped playing it after 120 hours ish but I redownloaded it for longwar2 and I have to say long war fixed a lot of issues. but now I can't stand basic shit that has been in in since the series began.

I can't stand flanking one alien with two people close enough to headbutt him and then having them both miss

I can't stand snake bitches pulling me from texas to north dakota

I can't stand the stupid fucking random maps with objectives over in china only to have a guy accidently get spotted because of how bad fog of war can be combine with the concealment system.

I can't stand the fact that concealment is such an under utilized mechanic and that they never thought to have stealth take downs or a hide system that allows you to conceal yourself again.

instead of people thinking what would make this game more fun they thought what will make this game harder.

transfering from x-com EW to X-com2 is fucking trash. even without mechs EW is a lot morre fun and a lot less bullshit.

whats worse is while long war is a straight upgrade from the base game, it add more pointless randomness to the game such as random grenade damage, cars don't have hp but basicly set on fire randomly when you toss grenades at it it seems and having a guy with pathetic movement speed get the shinobi class is annoying as fuck.

theres no point to this comment.
everytime I open this game within an 1 or 2 of playing I alt-f4 out. why make a long as fuck mod if it's going to be bullshit from battle one and then the bullshit effecting you early basicly makes it impossible to beat later.

>>170399101
You have a lot of legitimate complaints mixed in with the usual 'git gud' ones.

>>170399101
>pretty trash
>play for 120 hours

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>>170399309
I know it's not all what I think needs to improve. I just saying I don't really enjoy that shit.

I'm not saying make point blank shots 100% chance to hit at all times or or that running past an aliens shouldn't be able to spot you just because you didn't see them when you dashed half way across the map.

I'm just saying that shit doesn't make me smile, it just makes me sigh and roll my eyes and then I think great time to spend half an hour losing. seeing as theres very little room for comebacks in xcom which is funny seeing as it's about the galaxies best comeback.

it's stupid that advent are better than a rookie yet you you're out numbered and out resorced. advent should panic too, that alone would fix the game a ton in my opinion, to make it make sense plot wise the advent could panic and then they could be sent a shock to the helmet to keep them focused when they come out of it.

also for long war, did they really think that not being able to crit the flying drones was a good thing? they fill a great purpose and they are fun to have to work around but the fact that they eat up reaction shots forces you to focus fire them some when you flank you can use reaction shots to finish a person off but that eats up 2-3 turns or worse just to take out a shitty fucking drone. if you could crit them it would at least be better. machines have critical components too.

>>170400036
>it's stupid that advent are better than a rookie
Just not true. The fact that your rookies can have nades already disproves that.
> did they really think that not being able to crit the flying drones was a good thing
>shooting drones
nades

But anyway, if you want a real comeback simulator, play x-com.

>>170400306
the play style I was using mostly used grenades for taking people out of overwatch so I could flank.
but the nades point works well both times. throwing grenades at drones usually works for me, shame about concealment attacks getting ruinined when my small but sneaky squad ambushes and wastes half their attacks on one drone.

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>>170397707
>Who would ever frost a human with their butt?

>>170401083
hello handsome

>>170399101
A cool mechanic would be if concealed and you spot a pod of say, 3 Advent troopers, you can have three XCOM agents "prepare" to strike and all three get hit at once. If they're killed, you remain concealed.

Would be hard to balance but it would be a cool way to progress the map. Real Spinter Cell stuff.

>>170401461

There's a couple of mods with something like that, one with a class that has that ability(Spec Ops class) and one that gives the ability to supressors, don't remember the name of that mod but it's by the same guy that made the Spec Ops class, Musashi.

>>170401461
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the intent and scope behind concealment. XCOM is not and never has been a stealth game.

Concealment was implemented in response to fan complaints that the aliens always had the drop on you in an engagement, at least unless they patrolled into you. Concealment works to rectify this and allow you to set up an ambush.

>>170401650
even if they only wanted it to be this the time makes ambushing the only bone they ever throw you mechanic wise and it's shit. the shinobi class get it right but even if stealth killing isn't an option they should have at least made it so that advent only spot people that are close to the person who was spotted. not everyone.

>>170402293
Your complaints boil down to "I don't like the enemy having an advantage over me."

Tough shit. Without what little they have, the enemy would get steamrolled worse than they are already.

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Sneks

>>170383681
Wow, his eyes are really far apart, how have i not noticed this before now?

>>170403983
might be the angle and lighting

>>170403294
What is this mod?

>>170404746
Yeah, that's... not a great picture. He's drop dead gorgeous in real life.

>>170407849
Not sure which one you're talking about; A Better Advent for the enemies, CovertOps Gear for the info on the right side of the screen.

>>170407849
Hi, Jake.

>>170407849
>likes women, +10% to crit

hmm... really makes me think

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>>170409326

>>170408249
The one on the right, thanks.

REMOVE POD SYSTEM

>>170412626
cutting off your nose to spite your face

>>170413346
You know if surgery was cheaper I'd have fun with a metric fuckton of shit.

>>170413932
I sincerely doubt that

Surgery is not fun

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a weird box I've never seen before showed up in this screenshot

must be a split second transparent texture that makes up part of the effect

>>170415284

That is exactly what that is, probably, also dead thread bump.

>>170342928
>yfw vahlen is a snek

>>170398081

Well I'm playing on a DS4 controller and holding the X button will make the unit teleport to the highlighted location. Pressing the X button is normal and the unit runs to the location just fine.

I also have weird options on the main menu. Instead of new game, load game, etc.. I get options like strategy and tactical and demo. When I start a new game I get options like new game, new game (controlled) and IRONMAN. it's weird.

>>170421823
Sounds like you have the console mod. Once you load of the game, are you starting your campaign after hitting the "Final Shell Menus" or whatever that button is? Pretty sure you are playing the game from the dev pre-release mode.

>>170421990

That sounds about right. My brother probably installed it then because he played it after me. He was complaing about how his Valkyrie didn't get lit em up because he highlighted to the left of the icon when he selected it. Maybe he fixed it.


So what can I do with this mod? Should I uninstall it?

>>170422316
Don't uninstall it. Having the dev console enabled can have it's uses. Just be sure to always start games after going to the Final Shell menu button, so that you don't get any hinkiness. I used this mod as well, and I didn't have any weird stuff happen to me.

>>170417914

Given her lack of restrain these days I would not be surprised.

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>>170359551

Very Useful.

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Sometime

>>170424464
cool

>>170343683
>>170343683
>And then my brain went to fighting vicious giant insects.

Still related to Xcom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bp02UnJwDs

>>170424464

A bridge too near or a bridge too far?

Anyone here played xcom apocalypse?

>>170427195
One guys finished it. I've played it a bit. I'm also going to be though.

>>170427841
Looking for someone who played the megapol mod

>>170363584
There's also an Advent McDonalds.

>>170400036
To take out drones in early game bring along a sharpshooter with AP rounds.

>>170431598
BURGERS

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It's ogre Xcom! i have the high ground!

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>>170436181
*Icarus jumps behind you*
Nothing personell, alien

>>170372216
Unreal Script, also please don't give up and also please if you found out how to fix it post it in a pastebin so other modders don't go through the tribulations you did.

So was xcom 2 the flop we all secretly thought it would be, or was it actually [spoilers]good [/spoilers]?

Replaying long war 1 right now and man, it just might be my favorite videogame ever

>>170437869
No, I think X2 lived up to the hype. LW2 though, I don't know. I think we kind of expected it to be ridiculously unfair, though.

>>170437869

If by flop you mean sales, then it didn't flop, it was in the top 10 best sellers on steam of 2016, maybe it was top 5 actually.

If by flop you mean it was bad, then no it wasn't bad either, and pretty much every possible complaint you could have is fixed by some mod somewhere.

LW2 on the other hand was a catastrophe and it ruined everything, even Beagle quit.

>>170440561
Beagle quit because hes a notorious quitter.

>>170401461
And then you have to increase the amount of pods per mission to make up for the free 2-3 pod wipes. And then the RNG people will cry even harder when once in a while you fail on the very first pod and have twice as many enemies to deal with.

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>>170441830

Yes but this time he explained in great detail why LW2 was shit before he left.

>>170442398
Beagle is a whiny camper birch and everyone knows it. It's not a catastrophe of a mod just because it's flawed.

>>170428178
>megapol mod
Sorry, meant to say I am going to bed. Guess I really was tired. What's the Megapol mod? I wasn't even aware Apoc had any mods.

>>170442606
>just because it's flawed.

How do we fix LW3?

>>170428178
>>170444139
So I took a look at it. Conceptually it sounds cool, though after watching a video of someone playing it, it sounds a bit overtop in difficulty.

>>170447928
>don't get hurt
>but if you do get hurt, you get a cool laser eye
I'm getting mixed messages from this poster.

>>170448826
This is the loading screen image for every Apocalypse mission.

>>170438157

I think X2 is overall a worthy successor to EW but its flaws are rather stark, most notably in performance. I think EW just is more memorable too; all the enemies are aliens and that just helps it stick in your mind. ADVENT, while verisimilitudinous, are more or less human enemies and are thus kind of boring.

I think LW caught a lot of attention for how utterly brutal it was and continued to get. My experience with LW2 is that it's a bit harder, but mostly is just a different and expanded game experience. Which is less attention-grabbing but actually is kind of what I wished LW1 was.

>>170450398
The thing I miss most are floaters and mutons being commonplace.

Although I do love a good toucan safari

>>170450626

In X2, aliens are something you see fairly rarely and only as you progress the game. They're there, sure, but it doesn't feel quite like you're fighting alien overlords when you're fighting Generic Advent Troopers. I mean yeah you find out they're not human and all that but still.

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Stay alive, /xcg/

>>170452664

That kinda remains me of The Cabal from the thumbnail.

>>170453232
>>170452664
that's the heavy from tf2

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What was the point blank range penalty in EW? This seems a little low desu

>>170453318
I thought it was a guy in xcom 1 power armor with an autocannon from the thumbnail.

>>170453907
I hate zombies early game because I have the warlock mod.

Speaking of that why is smoke so good?

>>170454680
because if it weren't good you wouldn't use it

>>170453318
Yeah its the heavy. but he's wearing Xcom armour

What do you guys think about the permanent dark events in long war 2?

I know for a fact that this is just me not gitting gud, but I always have them accumulate, no matter how quickly I try to expand, and some of them are really crippling, like the faster reinforcement one.

60 more hours.

Keep it together, /xcg/

>>170455079

What could it be? Will it be really just story time? Next expansion? WHERE IS VAHLEN

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I hate retaliation missions so fucking much. How do I stop being shit at them? They're the main reason I'm not comfortable starting a Legendary Ironman run yet. I simply can't save enough people in time without savescumming.

>>170455430
In vanilla? Bringing a phantom ranger helps a lot.

rapid fire or traverse fire for a damage gunner?

>>170457809
I would think rapid-fire imo

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>When your squad encounters the Sectoid break-a-bitch brigade.

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>>170342928
>WHERE IS VAHLEN

And what exactly happened to Big Sky?

>Extremely light
>All all 15 enemies are pods of sectoids , mutons, vipers
early may
>4 guys
Good bye

>>170459927
they're working on improving the balance with lategame small squads, that should trickle down to the earlygame

>>170460668
That sounds nice. But they are never going to remove stealth. Maybe once they stabilize, we can get some fan lw2 edits.

If you aren't doing randomised maps, how many hand crafted maps (excluding any special maps like shark-nid hell) do you need to avoid boredom with samey missions?

>>170464285
I think you just have to avoid making a mod that lasts over 100 hours, EW never felt really repetitive.

Despite the common complaints, I actually found the various LZ's made the way each map played different enough I could have fun with LW. The only problem is when you got maps that are really shitty, I'm talking that landed medium in the dark forest map with its vast lines of sight, STREET HURRICANE, that fucking graveyard they just HAD to bring back, it's just awful sometimes.

How rare are Ethereals in LW 1? I just encountered my first in December on a Raider that landed. Unfortunately I didn't pack and Arc Thrower.

Has anyone figured out a foolproof way to tell if meld is expiring? I'm aware of the audio/video comparisons between fresh and nearly expired meld, but I can only tell the difference when they're side by side - no telltale marks to look for in an isolated canister.

>>170467036
That's the only indicator.

>>170466416
LW? They aren't that uncommon on landed missions.

>>170467036
Sound. The pulsing sound of a Meld canister gets faster the closer it gets to expiration. If your canister is going bwoom, bwoom, bwoom, you've got a little time. If it's going bwoombwoombwoom, you have MAYBE two turns, but I wouldn't bet on that.

Meld's always a trap, anyway.

>>170467306
Way back when I played EW on release I used a mod that added small quantities of Meld in the drop tables.
It was less then what you got from a canister, but gave another option other than risking your soldiers.

>>170467596
LW has that inbuilt, but meld is way more important there because you can sell it.

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BLISTERING BARNACLES I CAN'T DO THIS ALONE

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>>170467253
>That's the only indicator.
rip

>>170467306
>Sound
yeah, I tried to memorize the difference but on the field I'm right as often as I'm wrong. More practice I guess

How big of a tech tree is too big?

>>170472312
I feel that if the tech tree makes meaningful additions to the tactical game size shouldn't be an issue

>>170472312
Technically can't be too big. However, as the tech tree expands, certain safety measures must be put in place. For example, if you need to capture one particular enemy or get on particular tech when there are tons of factions and some enemies are rare, or items are rare, you can get stuck in the tech tree waiting to find that one rare enemy or item. To resolve this, there needs to be ways for the player to pro-actively go after the tech they are missing, or for their to be multiple routes through the tech tree. So your tech tree can be as big as you want it, but as it grows larger, more issues tend to crop up which require intentional effort to resolve.
>t. PirateZ player

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>>170445128
I saw that video too

>he downs the explorer
>that near instant squadwipe
>mfw

Is this what it's like to be the aliums

>>170474883
nah if you're the aliens it's like you're playing every mission with fucking rookies

>>170470140
I don't know why they removed the turn timer indicator, it doesn't make it harder really.

>>170478009
I like the idea of using your experience as a player to judge. Plus it's more immersive to not have the giant meld overlay. But I think the real reason was that they couldn't get the overlay to work with 3 canisters.

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>>170342928
>WHERE IS VAHLEN

Any bets on that?

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give me a layout boyos

>>170481920
LW I assume?

>>170482834
Yup, only LW gives this much money.

>>170483526
Seems like an iffy start with the steam vent locations. You could try the power block on the bottom floor, but it would take along time to get there.

>>170401650
>Concealment was implemented in response to fan complaints that the aliens always had the drop on you in an engagement

How? With the Mimic beacon, and the basic game mechanic of producing sound by grenade or window breaking allows for you to get the drop in on aliens when they come to investigate.

>>170442019
RNG people complain about everything, it's best to tune them out.

>>170484604
>How?
He's talking about EU, where noise wasn't a thing. A very common complaint was that aliens get a "free turn" when activated. This really screws normal players when they activate a pod on a yellow move. There were plenty of players looking for a mod to disable the mechanic, presumably so they can rush through every mission killing every alien on the map with a first-turn flank.

>>170469640
THUNDERING TYPHOONS

>>170485275
>A very common complaint was that aliens get a "free turn" when activated. This really screws normal players when they activate a pod on a yellow move.

I yellow moved when I was first starting, yea. After a few missions I learned that was a very stupid thing to do.

If people can go entire XCOM campaigns without learning to work with a basic mechanic, I don't know what to say.

>>170487813
It has more to do with that people wanted to have the opportunity to ambush enemies at least once.

The trouble is I never properly "ambush" past gatecrasher. I just open up with an AOE attack and then make my moves. In vanilla I would have my specialist use aid protocol on themselves later in the game, in conjunction with guardian and threat assessment. That way I could exploit the lack of an overwatch penalty without losing out on a unit's full turn.

>>170472312
It's never too big. See xpiratez, that tech tree could still be expanded. Also mind this post >>170473973

>>170481920

>Not building a satellite uplink and two satellites

How about you get good.

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prepare for disappointment

>>170490514

Body, ready, etc.

>>170490514
Maybe it really is nothing. Have they posted any details about this?

>>170490164
cash: 300
uplink: 200
sat: 200
basically stop playing on normal

>>170490707
Nope, but XCOM 2 has acquired two new DLC depots on steamdb and steamdb is reporting a flurry of activity over the past week, lots of updates etc.

>>170488132
>It has more to do with that people wanted to have the opportunity to ambush enemies at least once.
I don't know about XCOM2 ( Haven't played it yet.), but people could ambush in XCOM if they felt like it with generous application of mimetic skin.

>>170490514
Live reading of the XCOM novel with the original voice actors for Shen and Vhalen confirmed.

>>170490873
Oh yeah, somehow I already forgot about that again. That's where this all started. I think I need some rest.

>>170490873
>XCOM: Generations
>Have to manege XCOM for literally years and micromanege offspring as they grow.
>A war spanning decades.
>Alien Hybrids possible.

>>170490739

Not liquidating everything plus the $80-90 you get from the first mission. Good luck losing.

>>170490514
Shit, I'll be otherwise occupied at the time. They're going to post it later for those who can't make it, right?

>>170490707
I really wouldn't hope for anything more than Jake rambling.

>>170492763
>I really wouldn't hope for anything more than Jake rambling.

His entire three hour speech boils down to "STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT TIMERS."

>>170492763
Can't postpone your fap session for a half hour?

typically I would be in lab at that time but it's spring break at my campus

>>170492585
even accepting your actually impossible $80 reward from first mission, 300+80 is still not 600

>>170490514

Viper wife expansion confirmed.

>>170494280

Are you forgetting the damaged compters and alien battery goods that can sum up to at the very least $60. I have dobe it anon. Of course you wont get the first day but it is considered asap.

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>>170493010
>implying I wouldn't just be fapping to Jake if I was watching him

Friday morning is my typical golf money game, made $80 last week and hoping to exceed that this week

>>170495303
I thought you mean the opening mission. It's possible to not get any mission or UFO detections in the first 10 days, and the screenshot in OP is clearly the first day anyway.

do you need advent corpses for anything in LW2?

>>170496181
Yes. I already forgot what.

>mfw I figure out Ironman mode is less fun
I've done ironman mode since I started xcom and 500 hour later I resulted to save scumming and you know what. it's a lot more fun.

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lw2 playable yet?

>>170496720
>save scumming
>fun

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>>170495380

>>170497351
>judging how other people on the internet play their games
>fun

Can faceless still be in liberated regions, and if so can they be flushed out?

>>170497562
>>judging how other people on the internet play their games
>>fun
Sometimes people are wrong. I'm not talking about this particular case, but many people will go the path of least resistance, which is not always more fun. They have to be pushed to put more effort into something, or try it in a different way.

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>>170491162
>XCOM: Generations
Hopefully better than the star trek movie of the same name.

What did you think of Massive Chalice? Supposed to be a similar concept, right?

Pic not related.

>>170498132

These Bradford memes are out of control

>>170498048
I wish you luck and success in your lifelong quest to prove people wrong about how they have fun. I'm sure you will achieve happiness and acquire many accolades in your truly worthwhile mission.

>can't kill civilians with suppressed weapons

So how much is one dollar equate to in xcom.

>>170498048

I don't want to tell you how to live your life but this is extremely autistic.

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>tfw achieving my fantasy of breach and clear missions in XCOM thanks to the tactical X4 mod

I really need to give this guy some of my money.

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>>170390618
>>170389150
Going to disagree. Default XCOM weapons were oversized, like MMO melee weapons, but their form was more interesting. Specially when you get a bit of artistic spit & polish like pic related.

>>170499182
>>170499039
I'm not stating something crazy here. Most people won't even try ironman, but once they get into they have more fun. It's a case by case thing.

>>170499182
My thanks to the first autistic guy who made a stool instead of sitting on a rock.

>>170498132
>What did you think of Massive Chalice? Supposed to be a similar concept, right?

It's on my backlog but I haven't gotten to it. Definitely an interesting mechanic.

>>170500668
I think you've got it backward, this guy is advocating sitting on a pointed rock instead of a stool.

I guess where I'm coming from, my life is tough enough now that I play games to relax, not to excel or to compete anymore.

>>170499205
Link?

>>170501354
Yeah, same.

>>170501491
My point was never about you. It was about the person who made the statement that people can't be wrong about how they are doing something, even when it comes to having fun. Sometimes people are wrong. Never said you were wrong, and considering you actually tried ironman my point has nothing to do with you.

>>170501610
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=869801828&searchtext=x4

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tell me about lw2 guys.

what's op? are snipers and psi as good as they were in vanilla? what class do i train to reliably mindbreak slutty sectopod sexbot, and in which ways? what do i research and build? should i rush psionics?

commander lw2 ironman here, first mission was easy as fuck.

>>170502252
the fuck's up with basic research? i hate repeatable bonuses.

what teches do i do guys?

>>170502252
Snipers are still good but gunslingers have all but been removed unless you like putting someone in the AWC for two months. Psions are also good but take longer to get off the ground and are skills are not unlimited. With NCE enabled you can get crazy OP hacker specialists, which may help secure your dreams of hacking sectopods (there is even a MSGT specialist ability that allows permanent control of robots.) I would build GTS ASAP to get officers as soon as possible, you can make any class an officer but I like using specialists.

Basic research and engineering research are abilities that reduce the scientist and engineer requirements for projects, respectively.

/xcg/

share your tunes while you slay Ayyys

https://youtu.be/KbwoBQTc23o

>>170503110
I usually listen to conservative podcasts but this seems like an appropriate track from my library.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTw2YvutJRA

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>>170502941
>gunslingers
never used this build. just seemed like utter trash when you have so many other options for low hp ayy removal and can take actual sniper instead. fan fire can't crit a gatekeeper from the far end of the map.

is vulture worth it, or should i build a lab instead of gts first? what do ayys drop here, is it just cores?
> MSGT specialist ability that allows permanent control of robots
boy oh boy
> I would build GTS ASAP to get officers
uguh. what do they do exactly?

>>170503110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHRuTYtSbJQ
Not like I don't spam this already

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>>170503475
Are you kidding me? Gunslingers with bluescreen rounds were ridiculously broken. With some shred from another unit they could quasi solo a sectopod.

You get a lot of loot in general provided you don't blow their corpses sky high, so I don't think vulture is strictly necessary. However in my current campaign I had just bought it and got 5 elerium cores my next mission.

Officers provide several passive bonuses to a squad as well as many useful active ones. Command alone makes them worth training.

>>170503110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma-WJUidpRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMfdsYa3EnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZEnQogAd8U (sorry if this is too mainstream but i like it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGfKi6kpdTQ

Eurobeat:
the original, perhaps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD4UI4gxbdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3glxLWVkbSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaWQQBMF0Ew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkr6vOG72uI

>>170503237
practicing xenophobia while you listen to xenophobia, nice :^)

>>170503742
You don't spam it enough because this is the first I've seen it and god damn is it good. Thanks.

>>170503110
Like the other guy, I usually listen to podcasts or whatever while killing ayys.

or stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRXeO5JpFxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBymgo8sMLM

>>170504103
I usually throw them in the OP's music section.
The whole of DOOM's soundrack is godly desu. My other favorites are "Rip and Tear" and "Flesh and Metal."
It's funny because I'm not a Heavy Metal fan, but the DOOM soundtrack made me realize it was just the singing. Love the instrumental stuff.

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>>170503817
>Gunslingers with bluescreen rounds were ridiculously broken
or you could instead keep your specialist safe and take "hack workstation" missions every time, take hack reward, rig rng with shooting, and get a 150+ specialist by the time decent robots show up and have some fun with them. it also nets you shitloads of intel and other goodies from mindfuck and lamps.
of, i also never used bluescreen and have no idea what it does to this day.
> I don't think vulture is strictly necessary
well in vanilla it's super op because it gives you more better upgrades. superior expanded mags are essential for endgame snipers. do ayys still drop upgrades?

yea, i read up on officers, they have a good potential for minimaxing with nce

>>170504393
Bluescreen rounds confer +3 bonus damage on mechanical targets. This for some reason includes codices and gatekeepers, which is amusing.

Aliens do still drop upgrades, and it seems to occur more frequently on missions that do not allow for full salvage of corpses (e.g. VIP extract missions).

>>170504248
Totally agree, I feel the same way about most trance music and metal. That reminds me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLelk26BlEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-HSoOFdJ3s is the full scene, I love the choreography and the juxtaposition of the violence with the calming spa song in the first minute or two.

i'll avenge for what i've missed
and no one will be trying to stop me
if there's no one to assist
i'll still fight for memories of thee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg0Fv7FLd5Q

any advice on heavens?

>tfw you beat Ironman Impossible with ballistics in EW
Easy game desu

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I love NCE

And I love the anon who suggested me to not use strict screening two years ago

>>170506921
What?

>>170506942
Nice. I still have to conquer impossible period. Any strategies or gear you relied on to compensate?

>>170507107
how do i minimax heavens? have all the people in recruitment in the beginning?

>>170507204
Oh you mean HAVENS. Yeah, the first month you want everyone on intel to get the most missions that are doable.

>>170507107
MECs are broken. Rush rush rush mecs. 50 meld per dude, chop up your snipers, play with Not Created Equally and Hidden Potential.

You'll endgame want 5 MECs and 1 psion (because volunteer lol).

First research is meld recombination. Rush satellites over Asia to get engineers and sats rolling, and just win. Since snipers have the best aim progression, if you get them as rewards from council missions (cough cough van doorne rescue op) they make very good candidates.

You'll want a North America start, then sat up Asia, and then South America. Why SA? We Have Ways. Your MECs are ALL gonna take Vital Point Targeting, upgrading their chainguns to 6-8 damage. Take powerfists on all your MECs besides the first one, who will want a flamethrower to reliably deal with shitty situations.

Ideally your volunteer soldier is a Heavy. Why? Heavies can take Grenadier, which gives them 4 damage on grenades, exactly enough to reliably kill Sectoids. After you have a few MECs (probably 1 or 2), you'll want to get Mimetic Skin on your non-mec soldier to make the game easy mode.

>>170507204
Resistance haven rebels are best for gathering intel, especially early game. I personally like to set all but one to intel and the last one to recruit. Supply is a useful job but is more effective once the region has been liberated, and having more guys on intel will help that occur faster by virtue of discovering missions earlier; thus giving you more time to infiltrate prior to their expiry.

The avenger also gives a bonus to intel gathering to the region it scans in. That bonus is equivalent to four rebels on intel duty, so it pays to "park" in a region you have particular interest in.

>>170507528
Sounds solid. Props to you.

>>170507528
Cont'd random shit

Build a Foundry pretty early on. This'll set you up to do the Heavy Infantry Vehicle project and subsequent MEC Close Combat project, which gives you a fist weapon that does 18 damage. That will one-shot virtually anything you encounter with a tiny bit of damage from other sources.

Elaborating on Vital Point Targeting: you need to autopsy enemies to get your damage bonuses, and We Have Ways makes autopsies instant so you can't get screwed and have to do missions without damage bonuses. This is super useful because Friends in Low Places gives you a free Muton to autopsy way before they usually show up, so you can be prepped.

/xcg/ sure is a helpful bunch

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what do the arc thrower do? do you get ayy's items?

Does Tactical Co-op for XCOM 2 actually work or should I not bother?

>>170508159
Which game?

>>170508159
It stuns for a turn if it connects. Basically just a ranged utility item. With perks it's actually pretty decent, but honestly you should probably be investing elsewhere.

>>170508168
I'd be curious as well, but since I never heard much past the initial announcement, I don't think much really happened with it.

>>170508159
The arc thrower just stuns a target for two action points (1 turn) initially. Later, more advanced arc throwers can stun units for 3 or 4 action points (1.5 to 2 turns, respectively).

Reportedly speccing one or two assaults into the arc thrower tree can be beneficial, but I have not tried it myself. YMMV

>>170507545
which classes are good compared to vanilla equivalents and which are useless?

So what other challenge runs exist for xcom EW besides like, one man army runs and ballistic runs?

>>170508386
Snipers are super weak early game. Techincals start strong, but fall off. Rangers and gunners are good from the get go and ramp up. Assaults are strong early, and can deal big damage later. Specialsits are specialists. They have utility you need, so make them officers to go along with their utility theme. Since concealment is super strong, naturally Shinobi are as well. Gunners can actually take the role of primary damage dealers over rangers depending on the perks you take, and because rangers are actually usually not as mobile due to how light em up and timed missions interact.

>>170508541
One guy wanted to do a pure rookie run.

>>170508386
Oh and I forgot grenadiers. Early game they are strong, then damage grenadiers kind of fall off, but then you get special nades and plasma nades and they are back to blowing everything up.
Support naders start kind of weak until they hit sting nades, at which point they become excellent. Usually you hit sting nades before special and plasma nades.

>>170508719
Oh that was me. I couldn't get the mod to work on my macbook and i can't even play long war because i fucked up the directories. uninstalling and reinstalling the base game or long dong doesn't even work anymore.

Maybe I/I Pistols Only? I'd want to turn on Absolutely Cheatrical for that though.

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>>170508327
>>170508363
pfft.

what's up with
>Take permanent control of a robotic unit and >potentially acquire ADVENT MECs for the Resistance.
what exactly do you get? can you sell them?

if i take needle grenades am i basically locked out of the option to destroy cover?

>>170509024
They show up on ADVENT retaliation missions. Pretty helpful actually, but no, you can't take them on tactical missions.

>if i take needle grenades am i basically locked out of the option to destroy cover?
I'm not sure. I want to say that with Plasma nades you would get some cover destruciton, but I don't actually have knowledge ot that. Early game, you certainly would as even sapper nades have trouble destroying most cover.

>>170508386
Grenadiers were split into Grenadiers (duh) and Gunners

Rangers were split into Assaults and Shinobis

The new Rangers (in name only) serve a role similar to that of the infantry class from the original long war mod (if you played that).

Snipers are a lot weaker in the early game, mostly because you do a lot of timed missions. they really shine on supply raids and other timerless missions.

Grenades and other explosives are a lot weaker than the base game, and serve more of an AOE damage role.

>>170508719
>One guy wanted to do a pure rookie run.
I know that one guy made a pretty entertaining solo sniper run, I hope he does the same regarding the pure rookie run.

>>170509024
Compromised ADVENT MECs serve as defensive units for resistance havens in the region they are hacked in, and can be used to defend against retaliations.

Sapper is very very weak compared to the original long war rendition, and some players pass it up entirely in lieu of spamming flashbangs and smoke.

>>170509007
That sucks. Ever consider getting a virtual machine and putting windows on it, or duel booting for games/

>>170509474
I made a 50mb partition for Windows and i've got Long Dong on it, but i need to find some way to plug in my 500gb external drive so i can get OBS and record there too.

>>170509474
Not him but lol

>gaming
>laptop

>virtual machine
>laptop

>gaming on a virtual machine
>period

>>170509597
Oh, forgot about the recording part.

>>170509637
Desperate measures

>>170509597
*50gb partiton
lmfao

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>>170487989

ayy

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>>170509216
so now i can't do the scorched earth tactics in my xcom? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE?!

blowing the town up was a thing since first game where you would shoot a cyberdisc in gas station tile and there would be a huge chain reaction with sectoid navigators panicking and shitting themselves.

did they nerf blaster launcher too? is there a mod for better explosions?

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>>170509216
btw, how's demolition now? is it shit too and not guaranteed to kill cower?

>>170510098
>where you would shoot a cyberdisc in gas station tile and there would be a huge chain reaction with sectoid navigators panicking and shitting themselves.


you m,ean where you burned down and demolished entire city blocks because fuck chryssalid terror missions and room clearing in general

>>170510098
Being able to eliminate enemy cover on command from the very beginning is just a little bit broken. That is not to say that grenades are useless, but they don't completely level buildings anymore without perks.

Rockets from technicals are really good at flattening cover though.

>>170510353
Actually demolition is better because now it's guaranteed to destroy cover. It's fun to use against ayys hiding behind trucks.

>>170510353
Demo is fantastic now. Auto cover kill on a cooldown.

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>>170510356
>demolished entire city blocks because fuck chryssalid
you do not simply blow up chryssalids my friend. explosives tend to stun the smiling little fuckers and smoke is very much detrimental to your cause. you form a gunline and turtle the fuck out of mission, while slowly drilling tactical holes in nearby buildings with lasgun full auto.
>>170510470
>That is not to say that grenades are useless, but they don't completely level buildings anymore
"pavionis entertainment: we hate fun" just add more ayys ffs.
>now it's guaranteed to destroy cover
i have an impression that it always was guaranteed to destroy cover. at least i don't recall it ever inflicting sore butt onto me, so it should've worked every time.
>>170510505
so they actually are anti-fun.

>>170511071
Grenades were long overdue for a nerf, this cannot be seriously contested.

>>170511347
Grenades removed cover in LW1 with sapper but weren't OP. I think they nerfed it more because grenadiers have better range, so they don't have the disadvantage of needing to get close.

>>170511347
but they did nerf them. and if some kids were rolling 6 grenadier builds because game is too hard- let them. let people have fun, blaster launcher bombardment is one of the moments of pure glee in new xcoms. i want to at least imagine sectoids on fire and panicking.

like you could just nerf the damage on them nades further.

>>170481920
>He didn't pick Cheyenne Mountain

The best starting bonus imo.

>>170512231
That's not how you spell, ummm.... that one bonus in France.

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>>170509216
ok, so i take 2 snipers, specialist hacker, 2 assaults and the rest is gunners. that sounds like a good lineup? rangers seem to be useless when compared against gunner, shinobi are a pointless class and grenades are useless. then swap gunners for as much psi as i can.

>>170512748
Quai d'Orsay

>>170512748
quai d'orsay

>clean out config folder
>get 60-100 fps across the board
What the fuck

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enlighten me on infiltration guys.

is it important? can i just take 10 people and slaughter the ayys?

>>170513170

No. You must always always always always try to get at least 100% infiltration, infiltrate under 100% at your own risk.

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>>170512783
> 2 snipers
no
>shinobi are a pointless class

>>170513170

extremely wrong
>grenades are useless
no

>>170513170
Depends on the mission, supply raids and ambush troop columns you just do 0%. Other missions you can't afford to be bogged down due to turn timers and the ayys will start dropping reinforcements almost immediately if the infiltration is too low and it will take 5 turns to call the skyranger in.

>>170513323
can i at least do the 10 people shitshows on non-timed missions to farm drops, and use one shinobi on timed ones to gtfo as fast as possible without fighting ayys?

>>170513845
Most missions in the beginning are timed, and you have to evac, so no corpses. Shinobi shine on timed missions, and are still good on non-time ones.
You can take 10 man squads to stuff like supply raid.s