/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Post fashion

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>>170285470
'Kay.

>>170284949

>>170285202
The Grand Lance is quality-scaling, but C scaling Str isn't bad.

If you want pure Str scaling though, Chariot Lance may be more your speed, it has A scaling Str but has a bit smaller base damage due to the bleed. Gargoyle Bident is also A scaling Str (even worse base damage than Chariot though), it's a spear and not a lance though.

>>170285641
Twin-scythe anime icy fire nun

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>>170285470
Gotcha

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>>170283402
>>170283443
>>170283472
>>170283640
Success
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=japNv4YcNR0&feature=youtu.be

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>>170285470
Here you go

>>170285719
I can help you through the area as well if you want, nothing better to do right now. Otherwise, I'll put my sign in front of the fog.

>>170285418
>I thought with it being a ratio, that I could take items out of my inv to always be below 70% or something. So if I'm wanting proper armour (rather than leathers or garbs), I'll simply need to put points in Vit.
Only equipped armor and weapons and rings contribute to weight. Yes, absolutely stay bellow 70. 69.99 percent weight is fine, 70.1 is not.

Keep in mind that armor is of questionable value in keeping you alive, thus putting points into vitality is similarly questionable. A suit of plate isn't going to double your durability or anything, just let you take one or two more hits at best. Sure looks cool, though.

>ywn save wolnir from being sucked into the abyss

Best Staff for 50 Int in DaS3?

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repostan

>>170280753
That's a vestige from when Andre was supposed to push aside the statue in firelink to reveal the path. There was no real reason to move it so they didn't. You can't actually physically go there without using a somewhat obscure glitch and even then I'm not sure you will be able to see what is going on at all. Since you fall from frampt's hole and arrive directly at the Firelink Altar, 99% that's the canon position

>>170285925
sure, dont really know where you can set the sign though, is it after the elevator?

DaS2 > DeS > DaS1=BB >>> DaS3

>>170286062
Court sorcerer for sorceries, izalith for hexes.

>>170286101
Signs can be set next to the door just after you exit into open air again(before the elevator and cathedral knight)

>>170286191
Pls no, not the ranking wars. I've had it with you guys shitting up the thread with this stuff, especially this early into a thread.

>>170286101
I put it next to the one-way door.

>>170286238
alright, ill be there

>>170286332
Mine'll be at the fog

If you haven't done dancer solo at a relatively low sl (~30) then you're missing out. I always do it, not for the souls or areas you unlock but because that fight is both unique and fantastic.

NO BLOOMING MOSS CLUMPS
SEND HELP

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How do I calculate AR in DaS2? The calculator's page won't load and I can't make heads or tails of the AR bonus spreadsheet on how it actually impacts the damage.

>>170286645
I got some for ya at the fog

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>>170285470

Glancing at the halberd movesets I suddenly remember why I forgot they could shield poke; that fucking god-awful moveset. God damn it. If either the r1s or the r2s could be reversed, sweep or poke THEN an overhead, it'd be fine, but nooo, why would you want what's essentially a really long axe to have an aoe or long-range attack on demand? Fucking ds2 and it's fucking overhead slams.
Can halberds shield poke in 3?

>>170285653
Bleed lance? Strange. Grand Lance looks fine, though. Early and not nearly high enough scaling to worry much about.

how often do you fap to gwynevere?

>>170286051
He was an asshole anyway

>>170287003
Bleed Lance is great because the charge hits multiple times. You might want to check out the Sanctum Hammer as well, though it's only half-way a spear.

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>>170287032
Never. Gwyndolin on the other hand...

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>>170285470

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So uh, I was looking around friede's chapel after recording the loli waving at me and I noticed this. Looks like a chair of some sort but I can't make out what exactly it is.

>>170287206
why do you fap to an ugly man?

>>170287316
That ''ugly man'', as you so delicately put it, is my future wife, please show some respect. And he's cute, cute, CUTE!

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>>170285158

>>170287430
how is he cute?
He wears all those clothes to hide his hideous form like the wiki says

>>170286645
I thought it was weird you weren't using any, so I instinctively dropped one for you. Glad it helped.

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thanks dudes, gonna do dragonland next if any of you want to join

>>170287708
Sure thing, i can spare some time

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>>170287285
So after some more looking there appears to be 4 of these things in friede's room.

Also, the paintings are very interesting, They are all paintings depicting a white hooded woman, but many of them appear to be painted as if on fire. The normal version is in blue and the fire one is in red.

>>170287708
Sure thing, I'll see if I can drop my sign at the spawn area so you don't have to trek to the bonfire alone.

>>170287708
OCEEELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTT
Fuck poise though, I prefer how ds3 handles it.

>>170287916
alright, where did you put it?

>>170288264
It's at the entrance into ADP, just dropped it since I had to kill all the sneks in my way first.

>>170287414
>sword of avowals is actually referencing a ring
>like a ring in a wedding
hm.

>>170288513

>Ring of Way of White
>Looks like the Hollow sun
>Also looks like a halo
>Angels

But Way of White is about lighting bonfires. It really looks like it's Dark aligned, though?

>>170288264
I got summoned as a blue for a bit, are you already past wyvern?

>>170285306
So the bat demon is the demon prince?

>>170288513
>>170288871
The symbol of avowal and the circlet of the way of white/usurpation sun aren't really similar. Sure they both got circles but one is green with a large vertical column through the middle of it.

Well, that quick kill attempt didn't work lol, it kept breathing fire at me until it turned to you and did all the wrong attacks.

>>170289002
nope wyvern just fucked my shit up

>>170289143
ill be at the bonfire

>>170287285
what are you doing with that enormous sword?

Waiting for strong boys to come wreck Aldrich on PC
pass: bill
At anor londo bonfire.

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>>170289650
Do you know not of the glory that is the claymore?

>>170289658
Sign down.

>>170289658
Second thicc lady I met today

>>170289883
Why not get a black knights sword or something?

>>170290514
maybe its the same?

>Get summoned as Darkmoon
>Host backs off when i engage the purple
>hear the sound of black crystal
>sent home by way of blue adherent
Oh come on, why have WoB equipped if you want to 1v1 invaders

>>170290517
Not him but claymore looks cooler, plus can be resined/buffed.

>>170290631
First one was black

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>>170290517
Claymore is my baby man. Plus being able to buff it with darkmoon/lightning/dark blade is always welcome, and the 2h r2 being the poke is much more useful than what the bks has.

>>170289012

What it LOOKS like based off the description of Lorian's sword is that he defeated it and it retreated underground, meaning the Demon from Below is the one he beat that retreated into the ground, and there was apparently another one around. After you beat one of them the Chaos flame reignites, and I doubt know what happens after as I never saw the death animation.

>another low SL run at Aldrich
Okay, I don't mind being scaled down to the point where I get two-shotted by those Silver Knights, but could you at least let us know beforehand that you're doing a low SL run please?

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>tfw the path of dragons and darkwraith covenants used to be one and the same
>tfw its revealed that the primordial serpents are ancient humans that almost ascended to everlasting dragonhood before deciding to embrace the dark and corrupt the dragon-worshiping pygmies.
>tfw the ringed city fell apart for the same reasons the kingdom of Lothric did: Religious Civil war: This time between the new faith of the Way of White and the corrupted dragonwraiths. This mirriors the conflict in Lothric between the pillars of rule and the angelic cult.
>tfw the Way of White, Velka's Pardoners, the darkwraiths, and the path of dragon covenants can all be traced back to a single church in the ringed city
>tfw the name of the church comes up as Old Londo's Cathedral

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So I really enjoy this guys videos and I wanted to share his blighttown video in particular.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPGNmIJ30zY&t=468s
Give it a watch if you have 10 minutes to spare,

>>170286070
So what was going on at the end of 3?
Whats the significance of the flameless firelink shrine?

>>170291341
Do you mean the shrine at the end of the game or the one after Champion Gundyr?

>>170286773
It looks 10x better with Ciaran's armor

>tfw accidently pushed SL to 41
Are my days as a watchdog over?

>>170291182
good video desu senpai

when u fix the framerate blighttown is indeed just one of the games most challenging areas

>>170291779
The former.
I know Campion Gundyr's shrine is some kind of past/alternative shrine that existed before Ludleth decided to link the fire.

>dark chasm of old
>enter via black gulch
>enjoy your 2v1 turtle knight and pyromancer combo, then do it again
>enter via drangleic castle
>hey, remember havel?
>enter via Shaded Woods
>3 thieves you can stunlock to death with zero trouble
And thank god hexers can switch to pyromancy with zero trouble, because my dark weapon was doing fuckall damage to darklurker.

>>170292217
Castle is by far the easiest. Richard's a chump, Havel and Warped Sword Loser can really easily be pushed into holes.

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>>170288231
>carim can't be londor
>anor londo can be irithyll though

>>170292082
So the flameless shrine is what can be considered the present. Normal firelink doesn't change despite the world dying and the sun bleeding out. It exists as a bubble of some sort.

Dark Firelink---Fire Linked-------Fire is close to death-------Flameless Shrine--End Of Fire/Linked Again/Usurpation Ends

Normal Firelink exists somewhere between the fire being linked and the flame taking its dying breaths. As the fire dies, everything it birthed begins to collapse as well. Not only do humans revert to hollows, the world itself begins to converge. As the ringed city shows us as well as the kiln, time/space becomes convoluted and kingdoms from ages past are haphazardly sucked together and dragged out of time (as time itself can be thought of as a product of the first flame).

The firelink at the end is collapsing to show the world is on its deathbed. There are no firekeepers, no handmaiden or blacksmth, people all linked to the shrine. The flame is also unlit and only alights due to the inherent strength (flame) the ashen one possesses.

>>170292082
Flameless firelink is just future firelink, far enough into the future that the world collapsing effect parked the kiln of the first flame right outside your doorstep

No lore significance other than that, though that could change with Ringed City

>>170287285
Generic worshipping altar

>>170287907
More realistically probably attempts to paint Friede and kickstart the painting again, but proper flame hadn't been shown to the loli and she just painted Friede on fire. That or previous subjects used to make a new painting were all nuns.

Either way it's not like either are huge news that nobody knew about, faggot

>>170292074
Yeah and when you finally get out and back to firelink, when you finally rest at that bonfire and know that you can move on...it's a very unique feeling. And when I think of meeting gwynevere after OandS, I feel rewarded obviously for OandS and the whole journey there but in particular getting through blighttown.
>>170293126
I know desu just thought it was interesting. When you take the time to just take in and observe the world and all its details, you gain a unique appreciation for it.

>>170292808
If Carim is Londor the why do Eygon and Irina have "of Carim" after their names while Yuria and Yoel have "of Londor" after theirs? And why are the Carim and Londor braille tomes not only different, but so different to the point where Irina likes one and is repulsed by the other?

>>170292997

Kiln is the original world. Every other world is built on top of that dimension. Every time the Flame is lit a new world is crafted to the owner's liking, or the old one is rebuilt. The First Flame is the pilot light of the boiler that keeps the other dimensions powered up. Every time the pilot light starts dying, your world starts falling apart and sucked into the Abyss, which transcends space time and dumps remnants into the Dreg Heap.

>>170293448
Same reason Sulyvahn and crew are from Irithyll and Gwyndolin's from Anor Londo, bud. You're over-complicating it for the sake of your own headcanon.

>>170292808
I was more under the impression that Londor is just new londo.
It follows the naming scheme.

>>170293639
I'm not the same guy. I just don't see the connection between Carim and Londor.

>>170293651
It does. DLC shit and Londor paraphernalia in general imply that Londor is closer to Harvest Valley, though.

>>170293739
Thankfully, you don't have to.

If anything, it's more likely just because of how often Morne, the Archbishop, and the Goddess they serve that Carim will be in DLC2.

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this really spoils my focus

>>170293057

Not true because Londor is further down the heap than Firelink Shrine where you fight the Demon Prince, and Harvest Valley is before that.

redpill me on faith

>>170293639
Sullyman is from painted world

>>170293810
>It does. DLC shit and Londor paraphernalia in general imply that Londor is closer to Harvest Valley, though.
Are you implying that Londor is the ringed city? Because I find that unlikely.
Also, Your literally falling through time and space to get to the ringed city. It isn't suppose to be near harvest valley.

>>170293992
>kill dog
>come back

>>170293739
They're both spooky and full of assholes.

>>170293639

Sully isn't from Irithyll.

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Y'know despite this point really being hammered home at this point, I'm kind of...scared for the end of dark souls.

(Yes eventually there may be a new one and bandai could get someone else to make one but those scenarios are either far in the future or not really dark Souls.)

I've invested a lot of time into this series and had a lot of pleasure. Knowing we're leaving that behind in favour of something new, something unknown makes me feel weird.

And whilst I'm aware BB is great and so is DeS, there's something special when you have multiple games in a series. A sense of home and familiarity.

I hope from doesn't disappoint with their next stuff.

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I'm constantly looking for ways to one up my stupidity, so I came up with a terrible build to follow my one dream of becoming a toxin to this comunity.

Inspired by onlyafro's video, I decided that I'd find a way to poison people in the arena in ds3, tried many ways but I might have found the most obnoxious one. Introducing the tools to spread my toxic love:

1. Any knife infused with poison or inate poison damage
2. Composite bow with poison arrows
3. Poison mist
4. Poison throwing knives
5. The point down gesture (this one is key)

With these tools the strategy is pretty straight foward. Your objective is to poison your opponent, that is your winning condition, even if you lose, you won the metagame of toxicity. Use the composite bow to quickly deal poison damage with the quick shots that you peform after running/rolling attacks, you may also use the quickfire to shoot arrows while the opponent is buffing for increased toxicity. Whenever your opponent comes too close, switchto the knife and pyro glove to use poison mist as a counter measure and then proceed to quickstep histerically towards your opponent like you have rabies and spam R1. If after all this nonsense your opponent isn't intoxicated remember to throw the poison knives to finish the poison buildup and trigger the poison.

Your opponents might try to wise up and eat purple mosses, if they do, remember that you can find their profile and send rude messages complaining about the moss being op and that they are scrubs for using it. For added autenticity for your toxic build, point down at everything: matchs begins, victories, losses, the firekeeper, yourself... whatever you cna think of, point down at it, you need that extra poison that comes from that gesture.

As a bonus, for immersion, you can poison yourself in real life with watever funny looking fungus you find at your house and using dung pies at your character so you start the match intoxicated, ready to intoxicate others.

>>170294207
Hah, I just killed a few mushrooms and they left. I'd rather kill myself desu, and keep the area open to invasions

>>170294123
Pontiff's doll dialogue means Pontiff acknowledges his true place in Irithyll.

>>170294206

>Gwyn gave one of his cities to the Pygmies
>All his cities have the same naming conventions
>The Ringed City is a descriptor, a title, not a name

It sure as fuck is Londor.

sword master glich still works?

>>170294669
no

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>>170294310
you could also throw dung pies in real life and intoxicate yourself and everyone around you

>>170294102
Londor may be part of the dreg heap but we haven't seen anything that indicates it is londor.

At best we have the sword of avowal everywhere including the ringed city itself. But remember that londor could have taken it from elsewhere. Like how the marriage ceremony occurs in gwyns tomb. His tomb and him aren't affiliated with londor, it's symbolic.

And seeing as we don't know what the sword of avowal originally was supposed to represent, we can't conclude it's only related to londor.

Plus the ringed city has existed since Gwyns reign, and it's unlikely the swords were added onto buildings and etched onto the walls after the citys original construction. And seeing how Londor only came about sometime between DS1/2 and 3, it's fair to conclude the swords original meaning is different to why londor is using it.

>>170294413

No it doesn't. The description on the doll simply constantly reminds people to return to Irithyll. It's a base of operations, and the dolls were appropriated from the Darkmoons.

>>170294249
Im wracking my brain trying to figure out Sullymans timeline.
Born in the painted world, wasnt forlorn so he leaves.
Takes over the Cathedral of the Deep, killing the Archdeacon.
Then somehow discovers Irithyl and usurps the nobility there and establishes his new title of Pontiff
Once he found Irithyl he discovers the Profaned Capital, but he stays in Irithyl when we find him. Likely to watch over Aldrich.

Sorry StandarFuckparty, have to go take care of IRL shit. Maybe if you need help later, I can drop you some Carthus Rouge and we can co-op bleed Aldrich down.

>>170294736
Yeah man feel free to poison your family and friends, its a gift that keeps on giving.

>>170294293
I know how you feel, but its time to let the series go.
>When the world rots, we set it afire. For the sake of the next world. It's the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside.

>>170294469
>Piligrims of Londor are journeying north to reach Lothric
>Transform into the Piligrim butterflies, which eventually become angels
>Angels are in the Ringed City
Why are the Piligrims from Londor journeying to Londor then?

>>170294812
He also may be the "First of the Scholars" and the secret mentor to Prince Lothric.

>>170294790
okay but he's pontiff of irithyll, not the painted world

pretty sure he's at home in irithyll, he left PW as a "young sorcerer"

>>170294812
I think it's

>painted world born and raised
>gtfo
>finds the profaned flame
>stagnation a shit how do I stop this
>finds the cathedral of the deep
>takes over
>takes over irithyll
>locks gwyndolin with aldrich for some quality time
>sends outrider knights out at some point
>guards the path to anor londo

>>170294748
>His tomb and him aren't affiliated with londor, it's symbolic

Gwyn GAVE them that city. He left his daughter IN the city. You damn well better believe Gwyn and Londor are affiliated.

And you're correct, but they only times we've eve seen it used is in reference to Londor, including in the DLC.

>Londor only came about between 1/2 and 3

Okay, you're straight up high. Gwyn. Gave. It. To. The. Pygmies. It existed BEFORE DS1.

>>170294918

The Pilgrims are told by Londor that they will find their "true death" there. Londor is sending them there to transform and fuck the area up with Dark.

>>170294918
>He also may be the "First of the Scholars" and the secret mentor to Prince Lothric.
Probably just the study, but he definitely found Irithyl later.
Profaned Greatsword was probably based on the Greatsword intended for Prince Lothric. Signifying his intent to usurp the rule of Lothric like he had Irithyl, everyone always implies the statues sword is based on the Profane Greatsword, but im 99% its the other way around. Sully based it on Lothrics, after all the Greatsword of Judgement is clearly meant to be an insult or icon of Irithyl\Anor Londo showing he is in control.

>>170295129
>stagnation a shit how do I stop this
Sullyvahn isn't some well-intention extremist anon.
Everything he did was for his own self-gain.

Can halberds shield poke in 3? Can lances?

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How do I make a fire ninja

>>170295129
In the painted world born and raised
At the settlement was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin some lasers at some sorry fools
When a couple of knights who were up to no good
Started killing corvians in my neighborhood
I caused a bit of frostbite and my mom said "Pronto!"
"You're movin' with the old gods of Anor Londo"

>>170295412
He clearly had a far grander purpose, selfish but still everything was part of some bullshit convoluted plan.

>>170295168
No one has confirmed that the ringed city is Londor though.

>>170295585
>He clearly had a far grander purpose, selfish but still everything was part of some bullshit convoluted plan.
What exactly was this "Age of the Deep Sea" and why does it sound like the abyss coming to shallow the world up.

>>170291113

close but it's actually thorolund

>>170295757
Has nothing to do with what he was planning, it was likely something Aldrich longed for and dreamt of but I feel like Aldrich just blobformed into a mindless monster that Sully took control of.
Everything related to the Cathedral of the Deep indicates its been usurped by Sullyvan.

Prince Lothric abandons his charge to link the flame, possibly manipulated by Sully and setting the stage for him to take over Lothric. Tree hollows, Vordt, Dancer and Outrider Knights all over.

Sully takes over Irithyl and does what he pleases with Anor Londo, and is sitting on top of the Profaned Capital, the Profaned flame likely being part of his scheme.

I honestly think he was going to fatten up Aldrich and throw him into the first flame as a sacrifice and somehow link the first flame to the profaned flame instead of humanity or just take control of the flame.

>>170295508

Add the Orange Charred Ring for fire kicks.

Currently lvling my first ever sorcerer in DaS3, having some fun with it, now have the problem of deciding who to take into TRC first, my Quality build or Sorc.

>>170295991
Evidence of that?

>>170296106
>link the first flame to the profaned flame instead of humanity
Isn't the profane flame an abyssal flame?
This sounds horrific.

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>>170295412

>Master plotter and deceiver usurped control of a city of Gods and manipulated many powers for his own ends to rule
>Gets his shit slapped by a random ashhole running around collecting coals for a barbeque
>Only after does the clueless bastard with his little soul bouquet look at the bottom of his shoe like he stepped in shit and is now wondering why it's colored the way it is and wondering what it was doing there.

Clearly From has taken classes because that's some real poetry.

>>170295696

It's pretty fucking obvious

>>170295168
The crux of your headcanon is that the ringed city is named londor or some derivative. There's no proof of that.

He gave a city to the pygmies. The RINGED city. Swords of avowal are there but we don't know what it originally meant before londor decided to use it.

Also the item descriptions talk about the founding of the sable church by the 3 sisters. No way they've been alive since the dawn of the age of fire.

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>>170291113

>tfw you reach the end of the DLC
>tfw forced into pitch-black arena
>tfw version of darklurker with a sword and shield apparates
>a way of white circlet forms above his head
>instantly get cursed and die

>>170296254
Sully is not proven to be smart, hes likely batshit insane at this point.

>>170296375
>sword of avowal seen in the ringed city
>ITS LONDOR
>ignoring the only description of londor talking about 8 towers that resemble the morian blade
Stop this.

>>170295481
No. Yes.

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>>170296113
Good idea, but what do I do about poise?

>>170296410

The Ringed City is a DESCRIPTOR. NOT A NAME. All of the cities in this game have names. Londor is the same naming convention as Gwyn's cities. Londor is all about Dark, the Pygmies were the ancestors of humans and owners of the original Dark Soul. It's not rocket science.

No one said the Sable Church had been around since the Age of Fire. And if that's a crux in your argument look at Andre. Look how long he's been around.

>>170296375
Considering Londo is described as a terrible land filled with thieves and shit while Ringed city was described as beautiful ruins duing the same fucking timeline, i wouldnt say its that obvious. It could be:

1-Londor is also in the dlc
2-Londor just imitated some ringed city traditions
3-They actually are the same place

>>170296480
>Sully is not proven to be smart, hes likely batshit insane at this point.
I actually think the profane flame had a different effect on him compared to most people considering Sully a sociopath

>>170296601
oh excuse me, i thought you were CHAOS ninja, not POISE ninja

>>170296528
Brah, Anor Londo used to be CITY OF THE GODS but now its just their front porch sitting in the sky.
Its possible the dreg heap just has the Sable Church itself there and not the entirety of Londor.

>>170296528

The towers in the Cathedral of the Deep also resemble the Morion blade but they're not really visible from a distance. However that Church isn't in Londor.

>>170296674
>Londor is all about Dark
And the Ringed City isn't.

>haven't play DS3 for about a month
>boot it up
>invalid game data

u wot

I don't have any hacked slabs on me, but I do have a shit ton of blossoms and blessings. Could that trigger it? Going back to my earlier saves with no cheating is causing it to trigger as well though.

>>170296687

It's also described that the Dreg Heap is a horrible place filled with thieves and wretched people. The place is actually well suited to them to loot. This is canon info.

>>170295323
>but he definitely found Irithyl later.

irithyll is older than lothric kingdom, to the point it's inhabited by nothing but living shades. he would have had to infiltrate Irithyll before the lothric kingdom even existed

and on that point, he would have had to discover the profaned flame before he started fucking up Irithyll, which paints the place as possibly the oldest location in the game.

What even is the profaned flame?

>>170296879

Sure as hell is. It was given to the Pygmies. It's all about the Dark.

>>170297079
DS2 Old Chaos after Alsanna threw herself into it.

>>170297079

It's a real good question. Seems like it was another Chaos Flame, this one never dies out, though. It also only targets humans. Who made it or how they made another Flame that doesn't go out is beyond me.

>>170297108
>It's all about the Dark.
So was New Londo and Oolacile. I don't see you claiming either of those are Londor.

>>170296981

>"Ahh, hello, fine work, I say. Discovering Irithyll in the Boreal Valley, all in a day's work. If the tales are true, it is home to old moon-worshipping nobles, and should be packed with treasure. What do you think? Shall I go and see what I can find?

Irithyl was definitely not as Greirat remembered it, Pontiff took over.

>>170296674
>gwyns cities
Gwyns CITY. He only named Anor londo which HUMANS then copied with New Londo. Name a SINGLE other place Gwyn named with Londo that isn't anor londo. New londo was a HUMAN city so doesn't count. So much for your naming convention.

And you know what else has to do with the dark? And with Kaathe who was the leader of the sable church? NEW LONDO. You know what new londo is filled with? Hollows. Londor is new londo ruins and the ringed city is seperate.

Also you totally said londor existed since gwyns time.

>Londor only came about between 1/2 and 3

>Okay, you're straight up high. Gwyn. Gave. It. To. The. Pygmies. It existed BEFORE DS1.

You literally just refuted me saying londor only came about after DS1 with saying gwyn gave londor to the pygmies so it existed before DS1.

And andre is only around due to fanservice and being resurrected by the shrine like the handmaiden. He isn't as old as the nameless king ffs.

>>170297079
Its an abyssal flame.
>"Lords... where didye hap'n upon this Coal?"
>"This is much too dark. I see the abyss in it..."

Thats why it only targets humans.

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>>170296254

Gray Giant Judicator official description:

>A Gray Giant who has existed since the Archdragon was found. The Giant used to be a judicator, working under the Gods.

this means that ringed city is 100% linked to the gods, which explains the circlet designs present throughout the city.

as for the giant itself, check the white seance ring:

>A divine ring entrusted to the head bishop
of the Way of White and apostle to
Allfather Lloyd, uncle to Lord Gwyn.
It grants additional attunement slots.

>The head bishop of the Way of White is the
guardian of law and caste, and one of the
great royals of Thorolund.

judging from the mini-giants within the city that are weaker version of the judicator, I'm going to take an educated guess that it is the head bishop of the way of white.

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Is he the true hero of Dark Souls?

>>170297253

Oolacile and New Londo weren't originally Dark, they got corrupted. It's stated specifically that the Ringed City was given to the Pygmies, the owners of the Dark Soul, meaning the entire place is basically Dark Soul owners. Londor is going to be in the DLC. No question. It's too important a location. The Sword of Avowals is important to the Sable Church, and needless to say it's referencing this location in the DLC. Occam's Razor.

>>170297482
But it says used to. Could be that he left the gods for the pygmies cities.

Also can you point out the circlet designs I'm having a hard time seeing them.

And finally, if you're right then tbat would be Lloyd which makes my dick diamonds don't get my hopes up.

>>170297079

it's an abyssal flame/soul that never goes out.

sulyvahn wanted to claim it and reign as the singular lord in the age of dark

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ah, oh
bring poise to ds3, please

What is the best Magic in each DaS?

>>170297482
>>170297731
>But it says used to. Could be that he left the gods for the pygmies cities.
And wasn't Lloyd called a fraud and kicked out of the Way of White?
He won't be in thorolund anymore.

>>170297713
It would be pretty awesome if they retcon the Pgymy not taking part in the war against the Dragons, and the Ringed City Knights, proto dark wraiths fought alongside the gywn and his silver knights.

>>170297713
Owning a dark soul and the place being dark are 2 different things.

Humans have a small portion of the dark soul, but that doesn't make anywhere they go dark. Look at carim or vilheim or new londo pre falling to the abyss.

Gwyn also left his daughter, a god with the pygmies. If trc is dark central why would he leave a god who is weak to dark there?

Plus the ringed city has enemies that fight with fire, not dark. The only dark we've seen has been in the dreg heap.

>>170297713
New londo was though, unless you meant abyss rather than dark

>>170297375

Tell me where it says that the Humans named New Londo. I'm waiting. Hollows are not mutually exclusive with Humans or Undead. ALL the species in the game are HOLLOW AT BASE.

I never said it didn't exist since Gwyn's time. The Ringed City was GIFTED BY GWYN. The DLC states it.

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>>170297630
Literally no.

I love Ludleth, but he's the biggest cuck in Souls, especially if he's supposed to be the first scholar.

>wahwah dont link the fire
>oh whoops dark is not as likeable as I thought
>better sacrifice myself haha
>wow im a lord of cinder guys
>oh y-you're all leaving, okay
>y-yeah well im just true to my duty so i'll stick around
>i-i-i-i'm not weak or anything, true lord right here

yeah nah

try sulyvahn, aldrich, or aldia

>>170297805
>age of dark
Actually, it would be an "Age of the Deep Sea" which would be an age of the abyss since the abyss is associated with water.

>>170297889
>1
Sorcery

>2
Hexes

>3
Pyromancy

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>>170297731

nono, head bishop is an APOSTLE to lloyd, lloyd would be the furtive pygmy which is why he is given the title of allfather.

and the circlet design is the one plastered all over this tower, and spread throughout the actual city itself. official description:

>A tower rises above the clouds, at its top stands a well-known sword.

sword of avowal heralds from ringed city, and served a way of white related purpose. either londor corrupted it, or the way of white has a dark past.

>>170297889

>DaS
>Pyromancy

>DaS2
>Hexes

>DaS3
>Pyromancy

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>Soul of Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight and Cinder, who linked the First Flame.

>Lord Gwyn bequeathed most of his power to the Gods, and burned as cinder for the First Flame, but even so, Lord Gwyn's soul is a powerful thing indeed.
So my dude divided his soul twice and is still regarded, by item descriptions no less, as remarkably powerful. Gwyn was a bad motherfucker.

anyone have the darksouls 1 covenants guide ?

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>>170297894

>He won't be in thorolund anymore.

thorolund doesn't exist anymore, I actually think thorolund fell and became Londor, and the way of white itself became corrupted.

ex. pale shade outfit

>>170297630
Gundy is

>>170298381
i,

i am the guide

what do you want to know senpai

>>170298410
I wish you could get the golden mask minus the hat & hood.

>>170297630
He's a hero for sure, but it's a pity that he has to cling to the linking of the fire. At least he's respectful if you plan to snuff it out instead.

>>170298093
So someone who sacrificed everything to give the world one last chance is less a hero than a psychopathic cunt who accomplished nothing of any worth, his pet blob, and someone who by self-admission failed completely at his own goals and whose role in the story is the one of that kid who always tries to find a loophole in Would you Rather questions?
Great choice, you living meme.

>>170298093
>try sulyvahn, aldrich, or aldia
>Good Guys
Aldia is at least not evil, but come on.
A cannibal and his handler?

>>170298289
And despite all these countless cycles, there is still something left of him in the Soul of Cinder.

>>170298410
Alright, I think you made a pretty convincing case for Thorolund being Londo.

1. google "londor is thorolund
2. ???
3. based miyazaki

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would you niggas be interestd in a short FC in a bit, like 30 minutes or an hour from now

>>170298768
booting up my wonderswan color

>>170298090
Ffs you're saying that gwyn gifted the ringed city to the pygmies and you're also saying the ringed city is londor.

Ergo you're saying londor has been around since gwyns time.

If this isn't the case then the ringed city can't be londor so which is it?

>>170298230
Why are we jumping from way of white circlet being a circle to sword of avowal has a circle so is referencing it? Let me guess the sword of avowal is also linked to blades of the darkmoon and lothric messengers because they also feature circles?

Sword of avowal and way of white circlet look NOTHING alike. Put em next to each other.

>>170298289
I would still rank him as less powerful than Nito with either at their prime though. Nigger just struts around the battlefield and everything around him falls dead.

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>>170297630
He should've been the one to talk to you at the beginning of the game and tell you to go get the rest of the Lords.

Delete FK, allow level up at bonfire, and allow Irina to stay in the kiln and cure hollowing/level you up if you make her an FK.
Also giving the eyes would unlock different endings depending on whether you made her an FK or corrupted her.

There now the game is way better with two characters getting expanded roles and no 0 character waifu bait.

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>>170298859
it will be on the Penultimate Cockmachine

webm related, it's ur mum

Pontiff's mom is pretty fine.

>>170298768
Yeah, let me just get my leaf blower's pull cord.

>get to Quelaag
>start smacking that spider booty
>halberd does 33 damage a swing
>this is gonna take a while
>get trapped by her legs and WOG'd

This is gonna be a shitty fight.

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>>170298638
As much as I despise Aldritch, you have to admire the guys fucking conviction. strength, and determination. He basically said "fuck it, I will devour the gods themselves for my age of Dark," and DID.

Did way more then that harlot anyway...

>>170298749
>Petrus restaurant located in London

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>>170298861
See? Cmon guys they look nothing alike. We're literally grasping at straws when we go they both have circles so are related.

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>>170294310
I know exactly what weapon you should be using.

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>>170298861

that's all nice and good until somebody points out the white sun of usurpation. the sword of avowal, and the WoW circlet, represent the white sun. the gods hijacked the religion through Lloyd to warp humanities past and get them to help fuel the fire

>>170297990

I never said it was physically dark, as it's been shown Light itself is affiliated with it. It's even said that sometimes on rare occurrences the Dark lets out a flash of uncharacteristic brilliance. I believe that was the DS2 Dark blade sorcery or something.

>>170298861

Correct.

Londor, The Ringed City:

Gifted by Gwyn to the Pygmies. Pygmies existed before DS1. The Ringed City before Dark Souls 1. Londor before Dark Souls 1. The Sable Church affiliated with Londor, but not necessarily existed at the time of the city's creation. Even if it were, it would explain how the sisters know of Kaathe, and their long life span isn't unheard of because of Andre. We don't know how lifespans work in this game. But Undead come back to life all the time. She could have died before.

>>170298289
Way more than twice. His knights got a piece. I think that actually everything has some small part of Gwyn's soul, with the silver/black knights having a bigger part than humans and gods having bigger still

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>>170299158

ringed city confirmed for london

>>170299379

it's not londor man, 50% chance it's LONDO (no R), 50% chance they didn't bother naming it.

>>170297630
No, he was a coward that tried to flee his throne like the other Lords of Cinder, but the Soul of Cinder cut off his legs and forced him back onto his throne as seen in the intro.

>>170298472
no the pic you made for the covenant in a hilarious way that one that says the dark wraith is trolling hard as diamonds

>>170299379
Alright man I'm just gonna screencap this and when the dlc comes out you'll see why the ringed city=/=londor.

>>170299536
While simultaneously doing absolutely nothing about the other four? What?

>>170298381
Don't kill gwyndolin
Don't place the lordvessel before killing 4dicks
Don't kill nito before maxing the covenant
That's it

>>170299625

Please do. Please.

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>21 days till the ringed city (=/=londor)

>>170299536
>this level of headcanon
wew lad

>>170299635
>>170299875
So who was the Soul of Cinder dragging in the Intro then?

>>170299926
Could be a random undead so he could make a bonfire. Remember that was supposed to be a big thing. This was probably a reference to that before they scrapped it.

>>170299926
I won't make any claims it's anyone in particular since I have no evidence whatsoever.
Just like you have no evidence of it being Ludleth.

For all you know it might be dragging the player character.

>demon prince

>soul of man

>Darkfather Lloyd

>Queen Lothric (optional)

>>170299179
Its better to infuse with posion to reduce base damage, or just go unupgraded, the point is to poison FIRST, not kill. If the person dies without being poisoned, how else is he going to you he was intoxicated by the biggest toxin that this community has ever seen?

>>170298618
>So someone who sacrificed everything to give the world one last chance
Or someone who regretted his own teachings and was forced to link the fire after he made Lothric too chickenshit to do it himself, then couldn't manage the stature of the other Lords and knew it and put up a front.

If you want to paint him as a selfless hero, cool. He's still not the hero of Dark Souls. Aldrich is literally doing Aldia's work with noble aspirations once he's an LoC, his past as a cannibal or really even if he was a cannibal still, he's the only guy who's said "hey yeah fuck the cycle" and then also said "let's do something about it".

Sulyvahn helped him with that motivation, and even if it's for a selfish reason, it's a noble cause.

Aldia is a "'good guy" by comparison, but only because he never aggressively tried to break the cycle in a way that offended the fanbase. He experimented and butchered some giants and stuffed some dragon corpses but that's all we know for sure. I listed him because I doubt anyone would accept Aldrich/Sully as an answer, since they're le bad guy for eating peniswaifu

>>170300147
>>170300180
Maybe the physical body of the Soul of Cinder was an ashen one before the player character that linked the first flame?

>>170299874
>phoneposting

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>bloodborne got both beastform and kos parasite

>meanwhile in dark souls the dragon form is shit and the abyss form is cut content

>Bloodborne got chalice dungeons for infinite variety

>dark souls has mandatory NG++ to get more rings and slabs

why does from hate dark souls 3 so?


why is the world so unfair?

>>170300373
You do realize that the age that Sully and Aldrich want to usher in is the age of the abyss, not dark right?
Imagine Oolacile and New londo except the entire world this time.

A true age of the dark is more like the area around champ gundyr. A deathlike silent place.

>>170298093
>>170300373
How exactly is Ludleth the first scholar?

Gundyr is straight up a protagonist that just about couldn't make it in time

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>>170300430
Pic Related Boi

Reminder Dark Firelink is NOT in the future, if you talk with the handmaiden there BEFORE talking with her in the normal Firelink she will recognize you

>>170301178
I thought this was common knowledge by now

>>170298638
Aldrich chose to burn to death. Yeah he was a monster that ate children, but he sure was a humanitarian.

>>170300373
>Aldrich is literally doing Aldia's work with noble aspirations once he's an LoC, his past as a cannibal or really even if he was a cannibal still, he's the only guy who's said "hey yeah fuck the cycle" and then also said "let's do something about it".

>Sulyvahn helped him with that motivation, and even if it's for a selfish reason, it's a noble cause.

Anon, even if Sulyvahn and Aldrich weren't mandatory bosses, and they had the chance to somehow keep doing their own thing without having to cross path with the Champion of Ash, their entire plan and cult is based on a little quirk of the setting's metaphysics that completely plays second fiddle to Kaathe and HIS plans. Hell, even without any outside intervention, the Deep is ALREADY showing signs to stir into an Abyss BY ITSELF.
And nothing links Ludleth to the First Scholar at all, so that part is all irrelevant.

Can anyone drop me the +3 rings? I just can't be bothered to go and get them now. Played the game to death and really just want to pick up that last trophy because its bugging me.

>>170301293

>Aldrich chose

they physically forced him

>>170301021
>he doesn't have his computet set up by his hammock

>>170301293
>Let's take Aldrich, for one.
>A right and proper cleric, only, he developed a habit of devouring men.
>He ate so many that he bloated like a drowned pig, then softened into sludge,
so they stuck him in the Cathedral of the Deep.
>And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might.

Aldrich did link the fire willingly and even if he did, it was a selfish power grab.

In the firelink after champion gundyr, the thrones with the 5 lords of cinders names are present. This implies they all had awoken at that point as we see in the opening.

The reason for the dark is because Gundyr was restrained by someone and the firekeeper with her blueberries got rekt.

So whats going on? (Yeaah yeah yeah yeah yeah, what's going on?)

What we see is or at least very close to an age of dark. The handmaiden and andre don't respawn, and neither does the firekeeper suggesting that the undead curse at that point in time isn't active.

When is the curse active? When the fire fades. So the fire isn't fading but it's also not dead. So it must be the case that the fire has been linked but flame hasn't returned yet.

But then why does the maiden reference the bells not being rung? If that's the case then the lords of cinder wouldn't awaken and their names wouldn't be on the thrones. WTF is going on miyazaki you hack.

Can Anyone on the PS4 on NG++ around SL 136 give me a hand with Champion Gynddyr. Its about 1am here and I'm playing like shit at the moment. Just want to get by him before I go to sleep.

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>>170301430
>using a pc in bed over a phone

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>she thinks I'm Quelaag

Oh fuck I'm a bad person aren't I

>>170301928
You're only a bad person if you don't kill her.

>>170301729
>When is the curse active? When the fire fades. So the fire isn't fading but it's also not dead. So it must be the case that the fire has been linked but flame hasn't returned yet.

I was going to shoot your theory down, but you seem to be right.

>To skirt the curse's grasp..
>...tarry not for long.
>Tis dark for now, and not a soul stirs. But remember, fires are known to fade in quiet.
>Or perhaps thou'rt captive already.
>Like the poor girl." (laughs)

>>170298768
Well? FC when?

>>170300558
>abyss form
Prease Exprain

>>170301729

I assumed that that period of dark was caused by prince Lothric refusing the link the flame and sabotaging the process. The man who became the husk for the soul of cinder and is seen in the intro links the flame during this time.

>>170301928
Give her 30 humanity and the guilt will go away

>>170301729
Flame is there. There are lit candles all over Gundyr's boss arena.

Untended Graves and Dark Firelink Shrine just seem to be the last few minutes of the Age of Fire, after the sun has run out and the world is on the edge of oblivion but the First Flame is not yet dead. Perhaps it is the final moments of the precious cycle, when Gundyr was nowhere to be seen and thus Ludleth came in as a last moment replacement and served as Lord in his stead.

Can the Forlorn still invade after beating the area boss?

>>170300558
>chalice dungeons
>good
Biggest meme this side of planet earth

>>170302480
>>170301989

As a side note, how the fuck do I get back to Firelink?

>>170302203
no one said they're interested and i got flooded with memes

now that i'm settled in and the thought of hosting is in the back of my head, i don't really feel like doing it anymore

this is all your fault

>>170301178
I think you have Flameless Shrine and Untended Graves mixed up

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>tfw you really want to use the Lothric Knight Long Spear because it looks cool and synergizes perfectly with your fashion but the Gargoyle Flame Spear is superior in pretty much every way

>>170302795
Fashion trumps all. Everything is viable if you git gud

>>170302663
I was interested but made fun of you since you never said the platform and then acted like a big meanie and made fun of my mom

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>>170302860

But... but that extra 70 AR!

>>170302580

Not that anon, but I liked them because you could just dick around and co-op through a random dungeon with a buddy while fighting tough enemies and bosses

sure, they got samey and gem grinding was tedious, but its' nice to mess around in a chalice dungeon once in a while

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still waiting for this kid to post proof

>>170302608
Same way you came from.
jk there's a shorter way up in Blighttown.

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>>170302074
>>170302396
>>170302531
I appreciate your input anons. Let's discuss the coiled sword fragment

>Fragment of the coiled sword of a bonfire which served its purpose long ago.

>Bonfires are linked to one another irreversibly, retaining their affinity long after their purpose is exhausted.

This flat out tells us the untended graves' bonfire did what it was supposed to. And what was that? Allow someone to access the kiln. We see the exact thing happen when we kneel before the flame.

Ergo, someone definitely accessed the kiln and linked the fire, hence we see fire is there as you pointed out and the undead curse isn't present. But the dark is still strong, very strong. You could argue the flame hasn't had time to regain it's strength.

But how can it be Ludleth? As logical as it seems his throne is there and the throne is only there for those who have already linked the fire (lothric is an exception). If that was his first and only linking then his throne shouldn't be there...

Unless...as soon as he linked the fire and stability and light slowly returned to the world the flame created the thrones in firelink seeing as he wasn't a powerful enough sacrifice to burn for long? That's the only way I can interpret the thrones.

Basically

Ludleth links the flame
Light does not return immediately
Thrones appear for lords of cinder to relink the flame
Light comes back proper
The bell of awakening rings and the lords are resurrected
They flee from their duty and the unkindled rise due to a second bell ringing

Thoughts?

>>170303421
Is it that waterwheel?

>>170303756
ye

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>>170303532
>Ludleth links the flame
>Light does not return immediately
>Thrones appear for lords of cinder to relink the flame
>Light comes back proper
>The bell of awakening rings and the lords are resurrected
>They flee from their duty and the unkindled rise due to a second bell ringing
Is this basic lore not common knowledge by now

I just think this "bell of awakening" thing to be complete shit, literally worst idea the could have had, it makes no fucking sense

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>>170286952
My knigga!

>>170286952
>>170303986
All 5/10 week 1 fashion babies unite!

>>170303532
This seems entirely possible, especially considering how linking the Fire has become a deeply inefficient process.
While in 1 the First Flame just exploded and you could more or less infer that the world came back to normal instantly, I wouldn't doubt that by 3 the flame needs a period of revving up before it try restoring them old laws of nature.

>>170289658
Just ask Clem, Bill.

>>170303532

the thrones were built by the lothric kingdom to represent people who linked the flame during their reign. They had a royal culture focused on fire linking, which allowed them to last multiple cycles (the cycles being incredibly short at this period in time). Prince Lothric had his throne chiseled, he was meant to link the flame, and he refused to do it.

the guy who linked the flame before you was whoever the fuck is in the kiln when you enter.

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>>170303950

It's probably a case of "it was like that in DS1, so it's like that here," but a bell tolling and bringing about some effect in the physical world is well-established. Just think of the various chimes which are used to cast miracles--what happens with the Bell of Awakening could be see as a grander miracle, summoning the saviors of the world and all that.

>>170303950
>Bell of Awakening in 1
>"Oh, by the way, there are actually two of them, isn't that weird?"
>Their entire purpose is to ring loud enough to wake up sleepy sneaky snek and open up the gates of Sen's Fortress

>Bell of Awakening in 3
>It actually seems to be magical in one way or another, but is never elaborated upon, despite the bell tower being completely accessible and even having a level there

I would just start vomiting blood everywhere if in Untended Graves you were allowed to climb the Bell Tower, ring the great bell, and that caused a giant Primordial Seprent to rise out from the darkness off the cliff Firelink sits upon.

Even if it did absolutely nothing other than sit at a fair distance from the map, staring at you.

>>170304526
Not to mention that for some unknown reason bells of awakening are also present in the fucking painted world that would awaken their own unkindled.

Yet despite these magical properties you can just dismantle the bells and that's enough to stop their resurrection magic.

>>170302539
I don't know if I screwed myself out of their armor, as I've killed the bosses of more than one invasion point.

Does anyone have the last DS2SotFS CE table? the git.io link on the old table links to a CE thread that was removed.

>>170304102
kek I've been here since week one and that dude is the first I've seen to match mine in everything but gauntlets.

Like legit that fat as fuck collage just filled to the brim with mismatched shit and clipping. I dunno if anyone saved it.

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COME ONE COME ALL

In just three weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.

Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.
Sign-up sheet is here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one Steam IDs will be organized via that channel and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Ancient Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disincentive passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.

Requirements to join: Discord and/or Steam ID for organization purposes.

https://discord.gg/eNvRAh7 - Discord invite.

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So all along it was about letting go. Pretty interesting since DS1 on its own could have good reasons for either ending yet come DS3 and end of fire is presented as the best choice.

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>>170285470
Is it too late to post fashion?

>>170305095
>banning Washing Pole and GFS but not Carthus Cunt Sword, Follower Sabre or Dark Sword

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>>170285470
I like to think that this dude is the last Abyss Watcher or something.

>>170305129

At least until TRC adds a new ending where you let the Painter in Ariandel create a new world and make a new future there.

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I really want to change my character name, but I can't be arsed to start all over. Is there an option during NG+ that allows me to change name or do I have to do it via CE?

Also, family sharing would be the smarter thing before using CE, right?

Fucking FromSoft.

>>170302539
They follow the same invasion rules as players.

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>>170305095
>throwing knives, Anri's, two ashen estus
>best of 3
>only weapon bans are GFS and WP

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>>170305095
>I'll ban SPR but not Bloodring
>all those regen bans

>>170305346
Forgive me for being dumb, but what sword is that?

>>170305767
Old Wolf Curved Sword.

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>>170305354
See miyazaki said the dlc was seperate to the main game and that he'd sufficiently concluded the main games theme to do with fire linking.

But then he did go and say that part of the SERIES end will be explored in the dlc. So who knows. Personally I think he means stuff like angels and the nature of the dark/humanity.

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>>170305250
>dark sword
>good

>>170305095
If the winner is a CCS/Estoc/Sabre/Dark Sword user I'm going to fucking laugh.

Even better if they turtle with a greatshield. Someone please do this to fuck the tourney.

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Is it me or does the enemy in this pic have a resemblence to the slave knight set gael wears? Particularly the red napkim.

>>170305346
>no OH dagger
Some watcher he is

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Faron woods, toxic swamp in Twilight Princess
Farron Keep, toxic swamp in DS3

Coincidence?

>>170306451

It's enisle approved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogW8SxUj7rQ

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>>170306002
Well, the nature of humanity is something that has been hanging over the series since its start, so I'd say that's a safe bet. I mean, all indications are that we'll actually get to lay hands on the Dark Soul itself, or at least lay eyes on it.

We're probably going to get some insight into the true nature of the disconnect between the old gods of Lordran and humanity. Why exactly is the Furtive Pygmy so easily forgotten? Why was he (or she) never given a real standing among the Lords? Were the Pygmies given their own city as a placation or as a prison? Why did Gwyn give up his beloved daughter to them?

>>170306947
Considering who the director is it's stupid enough to be an actual coincidence

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>>170305095
>CCS, Sabre and Gottard's open
>Implying that banning regen will avoid some fag to pack up a estoc and a havel's

So, who the fuck decided the "rules" anyway?
Shouldn't we all agree in some sort of way?

>>170306451
shield + darksword is still one of the top 3 meta things

Not that it matters since everybody who advances past the first round will be using the plow, sabre or carthus sword

how the hell do you beat glaives?

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>tfw hits are registering on your screen, but your opponent isn't taking damage

>>170307635
>people follow the meta even in a meme game with a pvp minigame

I swear to god eSports and streaming ruined videogames for life.

Like, what the fuck do you get besides winning? It's not like you get something like points or a grade to climb a competitive ladder for crying out loud.

>>170307724
Use a long katana and spam running R1s
Use a spear and passively poke from just outside their reach, fishing for whiffs and punishing
Use a straightsword or curved sword and enjoy the fact that you can run up on their dick and interrupt everything they try

>>170294293
>a sense of home and familiarity
Ah yes, that's why people keep endlessly shitposting about the superiority of 2/3 over the other.

I lore of Dark Souls has been exhausted, there's really nowhere for the Dark Souls series to go anymore.

>>170307846
That's what they said about Star Wars and Harry Potter and Final Fantasy and Nanoha

Money finds a way

>>170307236

>We're probably going to get some insight into the true nature of the disconnect between the old gods of Lordran and humanity.

there is no real difference. lords have more powerful souls than humans, so they fade last, but that is the only distinction.

>Why exactly is the Furtive Pygmy so easily forgotten?

because he found the weakest soul out of any being, and up until the fading of the fire was a literal nobody. the only reason he had any influence at all is because, thanks to him having the weakest of all souls, he was the very first being to fade and go dark.

>Why was he (or she) never given a real standing among the Lords?

because his soul was the weakest of all souls and he had no standing among mortals, let alone lords.

>Were the Pygmies given their own city as a placation or as a prison? Why did Gwyn give up his beloved daughter to them?

no idea

>>170307724
roll until they're out of stamina

>>170308039
>lords have more powerful souls than humans

Only because the Pygmy split the Dark Soul among many vessels, i.e., humans. And even then, humans have the potential to become as powerful as the Lords.

>because he found the weakest soul out of any being

It's said that the Dark Soul was the equal of any of the Lord Souls, and was itself unique. Again, the only reason it seems weaker is because it was split amongst countless vessels.

>>170305424

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>the "nig" in "knight" is banned from player names
>"FUCK" isn't

>>170307801
I think I know why I got fisted then.

I used none of those.

I used hammers

>>170308360
The power of the dark souls is inversely proportional to the power of the flame.
When the flame (and thus the 3 lord souls) are strong, the dark soul is weak.
When the fire and the god's fade, the dark soul becomes more powerful.

That is why the end of the age of fire is the beginning of the age of man. The dark soul isn't weak because it's divided, because the first flame is divided among every living thing and that's no problem for it or the gods. The dark soul is weak when light is strong. It was at its weakest when light was the strongest, eg. when fire was new.

>>170308587
Hammers can struggle if the glaive has good spacing but you can also really bully them because they can't poise your attacks and you're faster. The fight depends entirely on whether or not you find a way to get in without trading

>>170300342
Spotted Whip at +10 (40dex) does something like 150 damage per hit, with the whole weapon art doing 250 at best.

If he slaps poison resin on he WILL poison someone

Well that was a bust. Whats the point of stabbing from behind a shield if blocking a hit stops the stab?

>>170307917
You realize that Star Wars has a MASSIVE extended universe in the books?
But anyway, keep on hoping.

>>170308360

miyazaki stated that all dark souls are whole lord souls, and there's a reason for that.

a dark soul is a great soul that has burnt out. lord souls are simply exponentially powerful great souls. all great & lord souls will become dark souls when the fire fades, and at that point become equals. all dark souls found in the game are great souls that have long since stopped burning and gone dark.

the pygmy had the tiniest great soul, and was the first being to claim a dark soul once the flame started to fade. he claimed dominion over it, the same way nito claimed dominion over death when he died.

gwyn and the other lords don't want to lose the great souls, which allow them to claim power over others, and are willing to let the world rot to keep this power.

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>>170308908
>in the books?

>>170308960
Not that anon but yeah, there are a fuckton of novels, comics, spin-off series and vidya that expand it to humongous levels of content.

>>170308787
he outspaced me.

also didn't fall for my obvious perserverence bait. dude was just better than me.

I'll try closing the distance next time

>>170309026
>not that anon
So neither of you realize how "they added more stuff that expanded the lore so it kept going" makes a very poor argument for why a series should end when it's "exhausted"

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>>170308954

t. great soul fading into dark

>>170308954
>miyazaki stated that all dark souls are whole lord souls

When and where? I'm not doubting you, necessarily, but I've never heard this before.

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sup /dsg/

so I just reformatted and having not actually played ds3 for a long time, was ignorant of the fact that my steam cloud didn't ensure my save was preserved

in any case, does anyone have that one image of the silver-haired waifu sliders? or any other relevant slider images?

pic unrelated but one of the things saved from the format lel

>>170309431
>silver-haired waifu sliders

Maybe? Depends on which one you're referring to. Any other identifying features?

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>>170309227

no way I can sift through 6 years of interviews, but I remember reading it. I'll take a look.

>>170309207

t. teeny tiny pygmy soul

>>170309590
nvm, found the one inside a spreadsheet buried in the OP pastebin

thanks for being willing to help tho famalam

gib build recommendations

Hmm, I may be a bit off here but am I the only one that feels like DaS3's quests are really insignificant and void of any emotion?

I mean, compare Siegward to Siegmayer for instance.

And why do they all end without any reason or consequence whatsoever?

Why did Sirris and Siegward die exactly?

>>170309167
Well, no, there was still tons of stuff to do outside of the movies, even counting the prequels. Lots of implied off-screen adventures and events, the series ends well before the bad guys are defeated, plenty of underutilized characters. Exhausted nothing.

>>170309842
Siegward's quest has a great climax with the showdown against Yhorm, but his death is utter nonsense.

Sirris seems to take her own life, which makes no sense because she's unkindled and can't die.

Same with Eygon. In fact, Eygon's role in the game is just total nonsense. He's there to be an extremely arbitrary quest-fail that just ends in a little fight with an NPC. If you don't trip his failure flag then he just exists until he offs himself and leaves his gear for you.

>>170307724
Getting good.

>>170309842
Siegward is probably my favorite NPC quest in the franchise, actually. Anri's is also really good, and Sirris' is soiled only by the fact she randomly dies for no reason other than simply it being something like her thanking you, giving you her talisman, then going back to her home now that her mission was complete. Hers is just a completely unecessary death.

Also Siegward is strongly implied to have killed himself after you left the Profaned Capital. His armor abandoned on the floor and his dialogue [it's the only instance in the game where he says he'll take a little nap, but isn't sleeping afterwards and just repeats himself] supports that interpretation.

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>>170303824
What is going on in that image? And I wish Nier would hurry up and come out so it can ease the wait for TRC.

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I miss DS2's shadow set