/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

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REMINDER

In just three weeks the first /dsg/ thread tourney is starting. On March 25th, 2pm PST a PC tournament will be held prior the release of The Ringed City DLC.
Participants will be matched up with others who sign-up and fight for the claim to be /dsg/'s champion. The winner and runner-ups will receive prizes including Steam games and being better than everyone else who fought.

Sign-up sheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

For the sake of organization either your Steam ID or a Discord ID will be needed to sign-up. If using only one, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there and Discord users can join the accompanying server in the link above to ensure we don't have last minute drop-outs with no explanation.

RULES:
-Maximum Soul Level of 125 allowed. Someone with CE open will be monitoring all players to make sure this rule and others aren't broken.
-The starting location will be High Wall, followed by Farron Keep bridge and ending at the Darkmoon Tomb.
-Fights are best of 3
-Each fight is 2 minutes long, the one with the most % health left at the end will win if both are alive.
-Gargoyle Flame Spear, Washing Pole, Throwing Knives, Anri's Straight Sword, Ethereal Oak Shield, Twin Dragon Greatshield, and Fire Surge are banned.
-Only two Ashen Estus sips per fight, any more and your win will not count, initiating a rematch. Do this twice and you are disqualified
-All Regen items and spells are banned to disencentize passive shittery. This includes Sun Princess Ring, Blessed Weapon, Spells like Bountiful Sunlight, the weapons/shields mentioned above with innate regen and anything infused with Blessed.
-Normal FC rules still apply such as no healing items. Fight rotation will be determined once brackets are set.

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/BESTLEGS/

xth for where is the PC FC

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>legs

>>170126032
Bitch ain't got no legs.

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>>170125864
>Discord users
>, Steam IDs will be organized via that messages there
>two Ashtus

>>170126180
How's it feel Seat?

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>>170126321
>>170126501
This series has a name for itself now, there's plenty of new people playing that are completely clueless about what's traditionally been considered acceptable or obnoxious among the community. Most new players don't even know that resummoning is looked down on so hard. They're just playing the game.
It really is funny to see how the game is viewed from their perspective, though.

>>170126032
>>170126180
>Lt. Scaleless you ain't got no legs.

>>170127175
Is he talking about the the enemies near the stairs? This can't be real

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>>170126986
to be a bitch

Why can't I backstab in this game?

>>170127751
Because you are bad.

>>170127979
I remember being easier in dks1 and 2.

>>170125705
Anyone on PC available to help me kill Aldrich?

>>170128064
It was worse in DaS2. That said, it is supposed to be worse than DaS1's backstabs because they were pretty OP back then. Just be happy you aren't trying to land a backstab in Bloodborne.

>>170128179
Yeah sure

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>>170127440
Oh it's real, I promise you. Those wimpy hosts you run into that hide behind their phantoms and will never fight you head-on? Did you think those were veteran players?
Again, new players don't even know they're being obnoxious.

What SL should I be to get summoned for Dragonslayer Armor? I've tried from 40 to 50 and summons have been rare.
Also, did I fuck up by making my soul-transposed weapon +4 so early? There's chunks fucking everywhere in Lothric Castle so I assumed most people would be +9 by now.

>>170127440
I think by fatties he means the crabs

No FC in the Sunday morning? What kind of treachery is this?

>>170128473
It's Saturday, stupid monglet.

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>>170128308

>don't want to deal with this fuck whos 50 levels higher than me (I assume that's what the number next to his health bar is)

For fuck's sake, I still can't believe how afraid some people are to die in this game, especially given how generous the bonfire and level layout is.

>>170128387
Most people are level 60-70 by the time they hit DSA.
+4 should be fine though, the average player would easily hit +7 by then.

>>170128264
password?

>>170128387
DSA is so easy that I kind of doubt people even need to summon for him anymore. That said, I think you are way too low. I think you should be closer to level 70 to 80 for that boss to get summoned by normies.

>>170128619
Honestly, he's not even asking that, he didn't say he's using phantoms, if you're invaded by someone you deal 50 damage per hit to (guess that's what the number near the name meant) how are you not supposed to be annoyed at the game? That other player has enough advantages stacked for him that he can't really lose, so all that guy can do is wait by the bonfire or kill himself, neither which are any fun to do.

>>170128654
>>170128745
>60-70
>70-80
Goddamn that's ridiculous.

>DSA is so easy that I kind of doubt people even need to summon for him anymore
I've seen 2 hosts in the past hour die before the music even really started. I don't think he's all that easy for the type of people who tend to summon.

>>170128658
dsg

Where do I put signs?

It really kinda sucks being level 180 becuase I get almost no multiplayer but I don't want to start a new character.

>>170128619
>especially given how generous the bonfire and level layout is
That's still looking at things from the perspective of a veteran player. We're talking about an totally new player. The kind of person that got their shit utterly pushed in by the halberd-wielding hollow at High Wall and have to crawl through the game.
From their perspective, they're going to struggle just to get through a piece of the level. They're probably still getting used to (and panicking over) the fact that dying cuts their health and drops their currency to zero. Yeah, they're gonna be afraid.

AAAA 20 MORE DAYS

So the Ornstein in The Ringed City is the real Ornstein this time?

>>170129419
>Ornstein in The Ringed City
Sauce?

>>170129419
haven't heard anything about that
but if he is there it's probably just Not-Not-Not-Not-Ornstein

>>170128534
Not everyone lives in burgerland, you fat fuck.

>>170129219

just get a friend to come soulsuck you, or better yet go allant

>>170129313
>an new
>and have
Jesus, I think I'm having a stroke.
Point is still there, though, it's still very much an intimidating game for newcomers regardless of how it feels to long-time players.

>>170129067
nvm i killed it thanks though

>>170128969

He could just fight the guy and get it over with instead of standing idly by a useless bonfire and bitching on reddit. It'll be over quicker, and he'll gain some experience with fighting other players.

>>170129313

I get newbies will be terrified, but wanting to turn off the fucking game just to avoid one invader (who in this case might actually be Kirk for all we know) is a whole other level of incompetence.

>>170129481

probably just a fake spoiler put into a non-leak form to make it seem more believable, cause i haven't seen ornstein anywhere and I don't know why they'd hide him but have gwyn on the main path

>>170129854
Why would he want to?
If you have no chance of winning a fight, you wouldn't walk on it, you'd just try and find a way not to fight

>>170129961
I would just find a way to win. I have killed twink invaders (ninja-flipping lighting Zwei users) just stripped naked and using the drake sword.

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>>170120487
Is it still fashion time?

>>170129961

>no chance of winning a fight

It's only gonna stay that way unless they bite the bullet and try anyway. The sooner they try to fight against tough opponents, the sooner they'll get better.

>>170130553
>The sooner they try to fight against tough opponents, the sooner they'll get better
This is, again, not something that kind of person even cares about. If some new player like that is just going through the game, there's a pretty good chance they will make it to the end one way or another and then be done with it. They literally do not care what some random part of the fanbase thinks of them for not fighting an invader or not being "good enough" at the game.

>>170130947

I've got nothing else to say. It's on them for deciding that dealing with invaders are an unwelcome headache. They're already having to deal with a decent variety of enemies, invaders are just another variable type to add to the list.

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Post favorites.

>decide to have fun and fuck around in Belfry Luna
>Get beat multiple times by "Joshua" who has a fire longsword with kind of a huge reach.
>vaguely suspect he's a hacker
>beat him
>character can no longer be loaded, invala data

when is the DLC out?

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>>170132014

>>170127175
>is there any way to get people to carry me through the game but without other people making it less easy?

Invasions LITERALLY EXIST to balance out coop. What do people not get about this?

You sure as hell have a right to not get your shit wrecked by invaders willy nilly, but by exercising that right, you waive all the help and coddling you can get from other players too, in the form of messages and phantoms. This is the contract. You go online, you get backups AND opposition. Friends AND enemies. The game maintains its own integrity by putting more obstacles against you if you recruit more help.

The idea that you should be entitled to getting all of the upsides to online play with absolutely no downsides is how we got this retarded "invaders as either free estus or dedicated to ruining your fun" climate.

Can anyone on PC help with dragonslayer armor?

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>>170132014

patrician tastes coming through

>>170133986
On my way, where do you want the sign?

>>170134130
just in front of the portal

>>170134190
Sign is down, pass dsg

>>170133028
499 hours

>>170134641
I also put my sign down and sort of stole your place, sorry.

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>>170134076
>weapon
eh

>shield
meme

>spell
meme

>ring
meme unless you mean purely for the animation change

>boss
unbelievably stale but acceptable i guess

>NPC
meme

>area
eh

>covenant
meme

armor set and basic enemy is sort of tasteful

What are some good pvp builds for ds1? I've been rocking that sl1 stuff for a bit but now I want a big boy character and I honestly dont know that much about pvp

>>170135203

>calls artorias stale but makes pontiff "generic enemy with upscaled healthbar" sulyvahn his favourite

your taste is complete trash

>>170134190
You still there? We can try again, unless you've been summoning someone else or have already gotten him.

Anyone on PC available to help me kill prince twins?

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>>170132014

>>170135917
omw

>>170135976
i miss that covenant

>>170135917
Sign's down by homoprince doors. Make sure your password is set to dsg

any new leaks since the first DLC boss fight leak?

>>170136114
coming back

>>170136362
dumbass

>>170130278
That sleeve on the sellsword armor is such a fucking disaster, what were they thinking?

>>170136458
thanks bro

>>170136652
i hope you die to soc

>>170136543
They weren't

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bosses in DLC?

-demon prince
-soul of man
-black king sulyvahn
-queen Lothric

welcome

>>170136696
why?

>>170136873
Don't forget the Demon of Feces and Plume of Ornstyzaki

>>170136902
because i hate you

>>170136943
you are my bf though

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>>170137003
this is a photo of me guarding my bfs

you are not among them

Can anyone on PC help me kill oceiros?

>>170136940

no

What's so special about Dark Souls 1? I've played through it several times now and think it's a pretty fun game but I feel like I'm missing whatever magic there is that has people so enamored with it when they talk about it.

>>170137196

Yes.

>>170135976
>>170136171
Me too.

>>170137183
That is only one bf

>>170137290
>warmth is not the pure reincarnation of solaire himself

use the bloodlust weaponart on yourself

>>170137401
Poison resin yourself

>>170135451
Which generic enemy is Pontiff?

>>170137463
So you want him to tickle himself?

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>>170137463
i asked my dark souls-themed magic 8-ball

"will this fucking piece of shit anon in the thread get facefucked by a ghru in the farron swamp"

here's what it said

what would you think if in DLC2 there was an ashen one NPC named gwyn who came to the ringed city to fulfill his promise to his daughter?

>>170137254
ready whenever

>>170137651
pass is dsg, by fog door

>>170137573

des black skeleton

>>170137643
>On one hand, they're not randomly adding more children to Gwyn's family, at least
>On another hand, what the hell am I looking at

>>170138456

well it is the end of the world, even patches lost his mind and became a genuinely nice person. gwyn just wants to make peace with his abandoned before everything is gone

>>170137223
If you don't mind Anon, I'm just going to take your post and turn it into a different question.
At what point DID the people of /dsg/ get first enamored with Dark Souls?

For me it was after killing the Taurus demon, going down the stairs on the Hellkite Bridge, kicking that ladder and realizing I was right back at the bonfire. For some reason that was when it clicked for me that that game was something else.

>>170138456
>>170137643

I can imagine a plot point in the DLC2 being the amnesiac npc's, learning who they are from the purging monument, changing their personalities and having tragic endings.

like I can imagine rapp finds out he's patches and becomes really distant the next time you meet him, before finding his corpse in another area, or a tall old man learning he's actually gwyn (DaS3 showed linkers of the flame come back to life, this is canonically possible) and giving a massive lore dump.

>>170137223

it continues what Demon's souls did and returns to pre-modern game design, Demon's souls essentially being a PS2 game with PS3 graphical quality

it uses design tactics and philosophies that haven't been used since early 2000's and it's incredibly fresh and reminds people why they played video games in the first place.

>>170136873
You forgot the pain of ages being the secret optional boss.

>>170138886
While I wouldn't be opposed to an encounter with Gwyn himself, I would rather have that be done through some manner of time travel, akin to the Memories of Dark Souls 2. I always wanted a chance to see Gwyn, the Witch of Izalith, and Nito before they became a dry husk, an epileptic sunlight maggot and... well, Nito didn't turn into anything but he got very grumpy when you barged into his house uninvited.

>>170139095
what even was nito's problem anyway?

what was the secret betrayal that killed the first lothric firekeeper and led to an age of dark?

was it prince lothric refusing to link the flame? or is the very fate of fire linking a betrayal and that's why they were given masks and murdered every time it's committed?

>>170139095
>>170139167

he was waiting for the world to die

>>170136873

Nah

2bats
some snake thingy
Big Darkwraith (corrupted king of TRC)
Abyss Dragon

>>170139167
Well how would you react if a heavily armored and armed someone fell from the ceiling into your house?

>>170139167
Necromancers stealing his fuckin' death powers.

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>>170132014

>>170139245
That whole part of the story is very convoluted and really has no clear answer. Everything about the Untended Graves more or less makes sense until you come to the issue of whoever the eyes belong to, how Ludleth might have come to possess them, and if it could be related to Irina in some way. Then there are no indications of ANYTHING, not even straws to grasp at.

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>>170132014

>>170139167
He got a chunk of his power sapped away by a rebellious pinwheel and spent his time sleeping because it weakened him. Just look at how slow he moves and how he limps in his boss fight. Aso I'd say he's pissed at being blamed for the undead curse seeing as The Way of White barges into his house to steal something or kill him every so often

>>170139258

>2bats

that's demon prince

>some snake thingy

that's what soul of man is. that's what pus of man is

>big darkwraith

the king wasn't a darkwraith, dark wraiths were defectors. the city followed the way of white and the king was called the white king.

>abyss dragon

abyss dragon the millwood knights sought is the soul of man. though queen of lothric fight involves a dragon.

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>>170132014

>>170135976
Good taste all around

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>>170132014

Farming the Heide Knights is painful.

>>170141186
Farming anything in pretty terrible in these games most of the time. I get why it's the case with upgrade materials and such but weapons and armor are just bullshit in how elusive they can be.

>>170141451
I know how it feels. I'm at about three hours of fighting Heide Knights, and I'm still missing the chedtpiece.

for an SL80 pure sorc in das3, should i hit 60 int or leave it at 50 and get more vig/end/att?

>>170141765
Not really many reasons to stop at 50, although you could go 55 and just equip the Scholar Ring to hit 60

>>170141618
Well that's just bad luck. Keep going.

>>170141861
i won't have space, i'm going to be using young dragon, bellowing, magic clutch and sage's ring

>finally finish massacring silver knights for all miracles
>find out I also have to farm ghrus in watchdog of farron for all rings because I'm too high of a level to be summoned with any frequency

Is it possible to trade covenant rewards? I can't take another week of menial farming.

>>170141910
>magic clutch
This is a build mostly for PvE, right? The Clutch Rings are nearly worthless for multiplayer

>>170142029
Don't think you can, I was trying to Santawraith once and dropped some Tongues for a guy who couldn't seem to see them. Why didn't you just Watchdog whilst at that level?

>>170139638
Is this from a leaked source, or just your own speculation?

>>170142130
i dunno, i've only got about 38 int and soul spear at around SL50 and i can 3 shot most players

>>170142209
Own speculation and terrible speculation at that.

>>170142217
Try doing it without the Clutch Ring to see how it goes for you. While for regular play Clutch Rings bonus are something around 15% damage if I'm not mistaken, against other players it's reduced to what, 3% or so, while you still take the full extra damage from other sources.

So it's the sort of thing you only want to have equipped while fighting non-players.

Pontiff Sulhyvan is such a stupid fight.

>>170142550
ohhhh, weird. alright, thanks. i'll swap it out for a fap or something else

too bad there's no FP regen ring

>>170142164
So you can't trade the offerings but can you trade the rings/weapons/miracles you get through ranking up? I just need the wolf ring from this covenant and then I just have to play through the game and reach the usurpation of fire ending. I was busy playing through the game and paying attention to questlines, I didn't do much co-op or pvp until I hit 120.

>>170142975
Oh yeah I doubt they'd have trade restrictions on the actual rewards.

someone post a hex build using fume ss for backup

sl/sm doesnt matter, but preferably an active tier

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>>170132014
updated after reconsideration

>>170141894
I am. I did learn something though. When a Heide Knight pauses to do the upward slash, he slowly raises the tip of his sword as a way to telegraph it.

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So Nameless King can fly without assistance. Where's THAT miracle?

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Name a better moment in the franchise than this. That includes BB.

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left or right

>>170143682
Right

>>170143541
I only wouldn't call that a good moment because there was nothing good about it.
As someone was more or less a fan of Aldrich before the came came out, getting back to Anor Londo and seeing just how terribly desecrated the Cathedral was just made me have a full 180 and become full REMOVE SLUDGE.

>>170143682
Right

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>>170143541
An area rehash? That's your best moment in the entire franchise?

>>170143541
You what? It's horrible in comparison to the OG Anal Rodeo though.

>enemies are a cakewalk
>none of the maze-ness the original had
>in fact one of the most linear sections with a shitty shortcut that just serves to make you walk past the dead giant (muh feels amirite?) and slightly lengthen the place

I mean just imagine that you had to walk into those side passages, for old players a wave of nostalgia and recognition, you think you have a handle on where to go and all but suddenly a corridor just ends in an open drop, part of the building crumbled away. You then have to make your way out and climb up through ruined bits of wall and rubble-filled rooms, creating a new experience, almost jarring to someone who moments before thought they knew the place back to front. Plus, Giant Blacksmith would just be off to the side, a little find for the curious, or for the DaS players who wanted to check on him.

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>>170143541
Beastly Ludwig getting up and talking to his own moonlight greatsword before engaing you.

>>170143541
>that moment
>good
Literally one of the worst moments in any of the games, when you realize that Miyazaki holds nothing back when it comes to fanservice pandering.

>>170144042
Yeah, definitely missed opportunity. I was expecting an MGS4 act 4-tier nostalgia trip.

>>170143541
How about actual Anor Londo arrival back in Ds1? How is another Dark Souls 1 callback among dozens anything but jarring at that point.

>>170144224
Anon surely you can see that there's a little difference between something like a set of characters who reference Gwyn's title or Andre being back, and an actual 1:1 partial recreation of what probably is Dark Souls' most significant area?

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Name a better moment in the franchise than this. That includes King's Field.

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>>170143541
>oh boy the fucking archers again
>oh boy it's Anor Londo
>I see everything is covered in black shit and there's a Bloodborne monster on the ceiling
>oh boy a fucker called Aldrich (brilliant name, very subtle) is eating an actually interesting character from DS1 who doesn't even get any lines to flesh out the plot or justify his return
>Gwyndolin is just there to watch him get raped by Eldritch
>this a perfect metaphor for DS3 overall

>>170144073
>44073 ▶
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Honestly Ludwig's probably my favorite fight in the series for that shit. I struggled on him on an Arcane build I made specifically for the dlc, and I got stuck on Ludwig for about 4 hours. And I loved every second of that horsecock.

>>170143501
I did it! I got the whole set. Now I need to save enough titanite to get two weapons to +10, as this is a new character.

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Kriemhild is for ravaging like a washboard after murdering her two bodyguards.

Seriously though, what a dumb fucking NPC, even her phantom actually took out the rapier when you got close in. What kind of lame bitch actually lets you land the Dark Hand WA in a fight?

>>170144473

this actually could have been an interesting boss if they had put 5 minutes of effort into it. feels like they wanted the player to fight this npc encounter so they just put in fog walls.

>>170144521
Real talk though who is Yorshka and why does she look so fucking messed up? That neck can't be healthy.

>>170144669
Someone who's somehow related to both Gwyndolin and Priscilla. How, exactly, is entirely up to speculation.
It's their child.

Hey has anyone figured out how to turn into a blue during an invasion?

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>>170144669
She's a succ machine and looks proportionally fucked up to how broken her covenant is.

>>170144472
Andre's back (literally him)

Sigmeyer is back with a person trying really hard to imitate his speech pattern (you can almost hear the VA's smugness as he says "I'm in a quite a pickle:DDD")

Then there's Anor Londo (which is not a 1:1 recreation mind you, everything's actually smaller than it was in Ds1) which is a straight line to the boss (which is another dark souls 1 callback). There's nothing special besides the surprise of "ANOR LONDO" popping up before realizing the area is short, boring, and uninspired. Saying a copypsted area is better than any of the original situations from all the other games or even better than the area it's copying is just dumb.

>>170141101
>>170140507
>>170134076
Good
>>170135976
>>170139542
>>170143470
Bad

>>170144473
Worst boss battle in the series, even Dragonrider is better.

>>170144902
Ceaseless Discharge exists, your point is invalid.

>>170144521
I can sort of understand what Miyazaki was going for with Aldrich. It's supposed to go something like:

>Okay, here at the end of the Cathedral, time to fight my first Lord of Cinder, the cannibalistic sludge blob Aldrich!
>Wait, what? He isn't here? He's moved on to Irithyll? Okay, guess I'll have to keep fighting to reach him, if he really is the Saint being worshipped by these evil churchies then he's going to get what's coming to him.
>What? Irithyll is Anor Londo? This is awesome! I get to visit the cathedral again!
>What's happened here? Aldrich and his clerics have defiled the place! Time to dispense some righteous justice! Into the fog door, time to fight Aldrich, Saint of the Deep, in Ornstein and Smough's boss arena!
>Huh? "Aldrich, Devourer of Gods"? What is this?
>Is that Dark Sun Gwyndolin, God of the Darkmoon, attached to the end of Aldrich? Poor bastard, what did they do to you? So Aldrich has moved on from eating humans to eating gods!

But the question you have to ask yourself is, why sacrifice so much of the game just to bring back old areas and old characters, instead of making new ones?

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>>170144551
Word.

He's the best corrupted knight From has done in my opinion. He just has everything going for him: the lore, the visuals, the actual fight, the music, the boss weapon. Artorias has forgetable music and, and Raime looked generic mainly due to dark souls 2 visuals.

>>170144951
Ceaseless Discharge at least is challenging and has a nice design, I find him memorable even though the battle isn't that good.

Prowling magus and Dragonrider are simply forgettable, they could have been normal mobs and no one would see the difference. Give me gimmick bosses over mob bosses any day

>>170144802
Yeah sure, she's kinda cute if you miss out the giraffe neck, skeltal arms, fucked up posture and the dark rings around her eyes...

>>170144817
shit taste son

>>170144902
>Bed of Chaos
>Wolnir
>Ancient Wyvern (especially after the jump attack trick)

And to be fair, Dragonrider had the potential to be an awesome boss. He actually gets more aggressive, moves faster and extends his combos as his health gets lower. They just had to make him hit harder and remove that blind spot on his left side, maybe even have him actually take out his twinblade for combat.

>>170145161
>>Bed of Chaos
>Wolnir
>Ancient Wyvern
Shit gimmick bosses, just like God Dragon from Demon's Souls, but they are still better than bosses who could be mistaken by a normal mob.

Is Rosabeth such a noob pyromancer that she believes throwing a prism stone to create a bit of light is a form of pyromancy?

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>>170144669

dragon baby, apparently an illegitimate child of gwyn.

on the topic of gwyn, irithyll as a city descended from anor londo and was built on top of it, the old cathedral isn't just "randomly" placed inside of irithyll but actually an ancient ruin, like the roman Colosseum IRL.

the question is, sulyvahn:

-was born in an old as fuck painting that's still around as of DaS3
-found profaned flame within the ruins of profaned capital, which profoundly changed him
-destroyed irithyll through politics and usurped yorshka/gwyndolin as pontiff
-destroyed lothric through politics as first scholar, manipulating the prince not to link the flame
-took some form of control over the cathedral of the deep manipulating aldritch to devour a god

how fucking old is this guy, and why has he gotten away with destroying so many civilizations for so long? why does he want dark so fucking bad? irithyll and profaned capital are said to be old as shit, irithyll literally consists of spectral beings and the capital doesn't even have a known name anymore

Please give me Freide Scythe build to aim for through NG, with weapon alternatives before it's obtained, starting class...

Or Pyromancer? I hear the DLC apparently is getting some great Pyro content.

>>170145292
Not him, buy I would argue Congregation is a better boss simply because it's inoffensive. It's meh and you can get it over with quickly. Gimmick bosses like bed of chais are straight up bad.

>>170145378
She's basically just a ditzy idiot with almost no abilities that was lucky to be petrified instead of raped and eaten by forest hollows.

>>170144994
>why sacrifice so much of the game just to bring back old areas and old characters
How much is being sacrificed here?
Anor Londo, for all of its importance, is a short dead end area at the final part of Irithyll. It is no bigger than the Profaned Capital, I don't think.
As for Aldrich himself, you have Gwyndolin attached to the model, but the fight is unique on its own to the point that you can't call it simply bringing the old boss fight back, since it has its own different mechanics and patterns and only shares one attack with Gwyndolin.
Everything else, lower Irithyll, the Cathedral, Sulyvahn, even the approach to Anor Londo itself is completely different and original. Does the fact that it is simply associated with Anor Londo invalidades all that? Is the fact that Aldrich's model has a part of it similar to Gwyndolin's model in DS1 turn it into nothing but a hollow rehash?

Seems excessive. More often than not people who complain about the references seem less interested in what they are and how they're handled than the fact that they simply exist.

>>170144473
I wonder if anyone would even remember or talk about this thing if you just walked through the fog into the exact same room but there was no health bar and you could just run past them all and continue if you wanted to.

>>170145483
If you're arguing in favor of replay value, yes. However, when it comes to your first playthrough I rather have an annoying but memorable boss than something I'll forget within minutes. I don't find the Bed of Chaos AS Bad as people make it out to be anyway. It sure isn't the high point of Souls games, but I find it better than God Dragon for example.

>>170145390
>destroyed lothric through politics as first scholar, manipulating the prince not to link the flame

Headcannon. We don't know who the scholar mentioned really is. And most likely is an Aldia callback.

>>170145603
Bed of chaos is a better boss than that flailing shitpile Seath.

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>>170145649
DO NOT bully the Grandfather of Sorcery, he's had a hard life already.
If you can call whatever it is that Everlasting Dragons have "life".

>>170145649
Seath is just meh, I thought they were creative with the concept of the battle, which is a very weird dragon who uses crystals and curse to fight, but he's way to passive and easy to be memorable or even a satisfactory battle.

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Just two more dried ears... How do I stop the ever growing thoughts of suicide?

Somebody with a cleared Old Iron King dlc should go to the smelter tower - the place with the scorching iron scepter where Quicksword Rachel invades, and drop down the the first hole with the ladder.

What causes that odd sound when you land, and why does it only happen in that tower? It's some weird detail, it's obviously intentional, and yet I can't find any info about it.

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>>170145631

>is old as all fuck, predates lothric
>there is literally a statue of him in the lothric courtyard

it has the exact same bracelets as pontiff too, as in the exact same model.

to say sulyvahn didn't fuck around in lothric, when he's still alive and prancing around with aldritch, is flat out wrong.

>>170145726
Who would you consider the villain of Dark Souls 1, the serpents or Seath?

>>170145875

DaS1 didn't have a villian

>>170145859
Aldia is technically way older, was the SCHOLAR of the FIRST sin and doubted the linking of the flame. There is more arrows pointing towards Aldia being the scholar mentioned.

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rate my build dudes

>>170143541

>O shit, it's O&S' room
>what the fuck am I going to face?
>fucking this will be awesome! Time to Git Gud
>
>Trap sludge

>>170145765
Definitely not passive enough if you're trying to get the goddamn tail cut though. Although it is rather humorous in an absurd way, how you can spend an eternity just spinning around him while he just swivels in place.

>>170145875
Absolutely the serpents. Seath did a lot of damage with his experiments but he mostly keeps to his own devices and his greater goals wouldn't affect anyone but himself. He just wants the immortality that was denied to him.

>>170145726
Seath is my husband.

>>170128308
>keep a host and his phantom inside the Great Belfry for ten minutes because they're both too afraid to go after me

They eventually won but jesus christ how do these people dress themselves in the morning

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So.

Some time ago I had an idea to get the BKH, level up to be able to use it and see how easy early-game bosses were. This morphed into another idea: To clear all areas of respawnable enemies i.e. to kill them so many times they no longer respawn. Do that to all areas accessible without killing any bosses.

At one point I realized that I might be able to open Shrine of Winter without killing a single boss, without being summoned and without CoC.

Turned out I was fucking right. I killed every despawnable enemy while wearing SSR+1, ended up with barely over a million SM.

Say what you will about DaS2 or this stupid idea of a run (took me ca 24 hours if playtime), I have a feeling someone at FROM wanted this to be possible.

I'm on to clearing Drangleic Castle and Frozen Eleum Loyce, wish me luck or whatever.

>>170145978
For that matter, did any one of the Souls games have a villain? As in, someone who was doing something majorly evil and was just not someone who was doing something out of self preservation and that happened to be in your path?

>>170146065
You are a crazy person and I truly hope you find the help you need to get better.

>>170146126
N A S H A N D R A

>>170146054
It's funny that these people act like Red Phantoms will rape their girlfriends and piss on their eyeballs while they are sleeping. It's just one more death even if the invader wins, for fucks sake, it's not like you never die on this game anyway.

Since I'm gonna be without PC for a while decide to get a copy of DaS3 on PS4.
>tfw can't even add funds on shit PSN for season pass
>tfw you first experience that fps
>tfw a clear 1 sec delay on commands like rolling and estus

Holy shit I had no idea how bad you guys had it

>>170145994

you forget that the lothric archive is about generic soul magic and worships seath, that's actually a major plot point of the fall of Oceiros; it has very little if nothing to do with anything aldia researched or gave a fuck about. why would aldia, a transient consisting of a mass of flesh, become a scholar for a kingdom and only teach them soul magic?

an ancient person, who we are told is a sorcerer, and who has a fucking statue within lothric castle, and is actually present in the game, fits 100x better than a shitty character made in 5 minutes to fix a bad story in a bad game.

>>170146227
>an ancient person, who we are told is a sorcerer, and who has a fucking statue within lothric castle, and is actually present in the game, fits 100x better than a shitty character made in 5 minutes to fix a bad story in a bad game.

Ah, so it's just a hateboner for Dark Souls 2? Understood, I was actually gonna argue logic with you but thanks for letting me know you're that type of person.

a-anyone wanna help with executioner's chariot?

t17, can summon t13 - t23 with wss, t12 - t124 with twss

>>170146227
Except for, you know, no known ties whatsoever between Sulyvahn and the Grand Archives, and no ties whatsoever between Sulyvahn and any worship of Seath the Scaleless. Being a sorcerer isn't enough, there is an entire country run by those out there. If all you have is a statue, then the First Scholar might as well be a Primordial Serpent. THOSE at least have statues that are WITHIN the archives.

>>170146437
sotfs on mustard rice btw

use name engraved ring with kremmel

>>170146380

it's a hateboner for people who try to force dark souls 2 characters into a game that not only has it's own cast of characters that actively fit into roles they try to shoehorn aldia/BotC/herald/etc. into, it has been explicitly stated that the story is a continuation of dark souls 1, and has virtually no DaS2 references in it.

>>170146510
>[stretch out gesture while wearing the Shield of Want and Wolnir's Crown]

I wish invaders and phantoms had glowing eyes that corresponds to their phantom color instead of being glowing ghosts.
I also wish you didn't have to wear a ring for half of the weapon buffs to not look shit

>>170146483

what purpose would a person have having a statue within lothric castle if they weren't influential? it's not even a small bust statue like the archive ones of which there are dozens, it's a singular massive statue; the guy was incredibly important and had an impact on the kingdom. Considering his entire backstory consists of tearing Irithyll down from the inside out through insidious politics, he's by far the most appropriate character to fit the role of the guy who supposedly ruined Lothric through manipulation.

>>170146591

>cosmetic items count as story references now

go jack off over dreg heap having the windmill in it then clean yourself up.

>>170146507
I'll help you in a minute or two if you still need it Anon.
Where do you want the sign?

>>170146805
>This item directly referencing the events of the previous game means that the events of the previous game happened
Truly a groundbreaking notion.

>>170146817
Right outside the fog. Waiting for ya.

>>170146975
Sign is down boss

>>170146891

could you explain to me how wolnirs crown has anything to do with dark souls 2?

>>170147138
I was more thinking about the Shield of Want, but sure.

>Crown of Wolnir, the Carthus conqueror.

>Once upon a time, such things were
>bequeathed judiciously to each of the rightful
>lords, until Wolnir brought them to their knees,
>and ground their crowns to dust. Then the
>crowns became one, and Wolnir, the one High
>Lord.

>Various crowns, bequeathed judiciously to each rightful king of various lands

If this is not a reference to Dark Souls 2, then nothing else is.

>>170146065
Oh, okay, turns out no-one gives a shit. Alright.

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>>170147113
>tfw can't see it

>>170147285

if you're going to use that as proof of a connection than you have literally no right bitching about my shit that actually uses characters from the game.

>>170146126

DaS2 has nashandra (who crashed the kingdom with no survivors)

DaS3 has sulyvahn (who crashed multiple kingdoms with no survivors)

>>170146510
>it's a hateboner for people who try to force dark souls 2 characters into a game that not only has it's own cast of characters that actively fit into roles they try to shoehorn aldia/BotC/herald/etc

Dark Souls 3 has a dozen characters it pulls out of the previous games. The game also has several dark souls 2 references.

>>170146724
>insidious politics

Again, more headcannon. You're using your headcannon to support your headcannon, anon.

>>170147326
No, I would rather use this

>Shield of an ancient king who was cursed by an all-consuming thirst. In the end, he was no king.

>looks exactly like Vendrick's shield and references his character directly.

>>170147302
People don't like talking about the stuff DaS2 did right.

>>170138978
>with ps3 graphical quality
DeS' graphical quality was pretty PS2-tier too, along with PS3 DaS1 and 2.

>>170147423

>more headcannon

did you actively miss the part where he wormed himself into irithyll's ruling class, sentencing a member of the ruling family to be a dancer and literally declaring himself pontiff? I don't know how clear a game can get.

OH MY FUCKING GOD I JUST GOT A WINDOWS UPDATE THAT FUCKING MINIMIZED MY DAS2 AND I LOST 36K SOULS AUTOWALKING OFF THE FUCKING CLIFF

REEEEEEEE FUCK THIS GAME

>>170147113
thanks for the help but im going to go kill myself now

>>170147326
>Game pulls out characters from the past games with no explanation
>anon thinks it's silly that an unammed character is a reference to a character from a past game

>>170147536
My apologies, that fight wasn't my proudest moment.
Were those the souls you get from beating the Chariot?
If not and you'd still have me, my sign is still down at the same spot.

>>170147423
>Dark Souls 3 has a dozen characters it pulls out of the previous games

all of them from dark souls 1 save for what, creighton? who has zero impact on the story and you kill in a quest invasion?

>>170143541
Ludwig's second phase in Bloodborne or coming out of the cave into Orphan's bossfight.

>>170147563

you mean the 50 foot tall giant? you think the 50 foot tall giant is the DaS2 protag? you say I'm using headcannon yet you think the 50 foot tall giant is the DaS2 protag.

>>170147495

it's a single item that they brought back because it has a unique silver serpent ring soul mechanic.

>>170147497
DaS2 did almost nothing right though, and the few things it got right were vastly outweighed by the lies and all the shit it totally fucked up.

>>170147597
Nah I carried them into the boss fight like a retard

like i said, promptly sharpening this fine nippon blade folded eight thousand times so that i can commit sudoku flawlessly

>>170147713
I disagree, but whatever.

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>>170132014

>>170147765

and people are allowed to have wrong opinions

>>170147795
Opinions cannot be wrong unless based on false statements.

>>170147765
Then list off what you think it did right and we can discuss them.

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>>170147690
You're right, it's not like they could have made use of any other piece of equipment to give you a bonus to soul gain. Shield of Want has it, so of course they had to bring it back rather than making a new one. For consistency sake.

>>170147601
Alva.

>>170147881
Sorry, I don't see a point, we're not going to talk each other out of our opinions.

>>170147601
>>170147690
>laddersmith gilligan
>Creighton
>alva

>>170147764
No need, get Sir Alonne's sword and use that instead.

>>170147956

>black phantom
>hostile character you kill in a questline
>a corpse put in as a joke because that section was full of giant ladders

stretching

>>170147943
The truth is you know what you are saying is bullshit too. That's why you can claim DaS2 did more shit right, but when asked to quantify it, you immediately resort to excuses just like this instead.

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>>170144473
>only respawning magus without ascetics/next journey
>kill him ~20 times and dark sign
>no drop
>check wiki
>he doesn't actually drop it
>mfw
F U C K Y O U F R O M S H I T W A R E

>>170148037
>these characters don't count because they're not a boss therefore they don't exist

You're are also forgetting the myriad of items that reference ds2, which you will say are not references because you're either dense or don't want to accept Ds2 exists.

>>170148059
Alright, if that's your explanation, so be it. Not going to participate in something pointless. No idea why I'd stand by a game I'd think is bad, though.

>>170143682
Great helms suck tbqh

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>>170145390
>apparently an illegitimate child of gwyn.
>>170145726
bullies and traitors don't deserve an anti-bully squad

>>170148059
Not him but no one wants to argue with you because you either switch the goalpoast or use personal opinion to supoort your claims. No one wants to waste their breath to enhance your ego anymore.

>>170148124
Your first mistake was replying to a tripfag that will say literally anything for (You's)

>>170148124

I'm not saying the game doesn't reference DaS2, I'm saying DaS2 has roughly 0% to do with the story of DaS3. DaS2 is it's own thing, they aren't going to make DaS2, a game that many fans greatly disliked and contributed to DaS3's small community, a major part of the story.

>>170148037
different anon but

>manikin claws are now used exclusively by the londor pale shades
>manikins claws which where exclusively used by manikins in earthen peak
>earthen peak is in TRC dlc

really joggin' the noggin' here

>>170148190

>proofs

she literally calls herself a child of gwyn

>>170148157
>No idea why I'd stand by a game I'd think is bad, tho

It's a common phenomenon. People spend a lot of money on something bad, feel bad about wasting the money, then try to make themselves feel better about it by trying to subconsciously make themselves think it is good through convincing others that it is good.

>>170146126
Like this>>170146171 anon say, Nashandra was one of the most "direct" villain in the series as she is actively trying to kill you
Every other Souls protag are more or less murderhobos who travel to kill every major characters.

>>170146724
>firstborn's statue is in a pristine room in Lothric Castle
>it's already broken
For what purpose?

>>170148236
I don't think you inderstand the meaning of 0%.

Btw, word of advice, stop thinking 4chan, as a community, is relevant to a game's reoutation. For every anon hating on a game here there are 10 normies praising the game in social media developers and companies actually pay attention to.

>>170148310
>tfw do this with literally everything i've ever purchased in my entire life

i think i subconsciously get off on the feeling of disappointment or something

>>170148236
>a major part of the story
>a small character referenced nowhere but in a single spell hidden in an out of way location
>a major part of the story
>a character who has less lore associated with it than the Dancer of the Boreal Valley
>a major part of the story

>>170147495
Why does the shield describes Vendrick with this "all consuming thirst". Does it mean that with century, people confused Nashandra traits with Vendrick's?

>>170148362

>using a shitty last-minute shoehorn of a model literally imported from DaS1 because people will bitch and moan about no sunlight covenant as an argument against a high quality statue within a mandatory area pertaining to a mandatory boss character that plays a major role in the story

>>170148310
Oh, yeah, that actually does make sense. Doesn't stick here, though, because I bought DaS and DaS3 with Season Pass as well.

>>170148368

the game had such a bad reputation they literally remade it with new enemy/item placements and item descriptions. don't be an idiot for the sake of argument

>>170147285
that's real fucking cool and all but OIK doesn't drop his crown and SK is dead long before we arrive. technically neither does vendrick, but I'm willing to say he "drops" it as in it becomes immediately and readily available after his defeat

>>170148413
It's not very apparent by the time you find him, but Vendrick was also incredibly obsessed with understanding the curse and the relation between Dark and the First Flame. He says it himself in the King's Memory, he warred the giants and inadvertedly steered his entire country towards oblivion just so he could "step closer to Fire"

>>170148368
This place isn't a sekrit club, /v/ has a lot of vidya devs scouting in it and/or stealth marketing.

Plus a lot of the anons here are active in other communities like Reddit where the devs have official representation.

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>>170148236
enjoy finding out that drangleic is londor in TRC, as memezaki said geographically if DaS1 took place on the north pole, then DaS2 took place on the south pole.

>DaS3 intro
>Pilgrims venture north
>Yuria is obsessed with monarchs and marriage
>pale shades use weapon unique to earthen peak
>earthen peak is in TRC dlc

>>170148496
You really are an idiot if you seriously believe that they did that because of any perceived reputation or reception the game had and not an excuse to double dip on sales with the release of a new console generation.

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Anyone know how to fix this? It happens right as I open game.

It used to work before, but I reinstalled windows and deleted everything from my computer, and now it doesn't work.

What are some fun builds/run to do? Be it a gimmicky weapon or a cosplay builds?

>>170148554

if it turns out TRC is DaS2 shit I literally unironically am not going to buy it, and I know a few people IRL and online who think the same way.

>>170148285
she was adopted by gwyndolin you living meme. dolin taught her everything knows. and the title of "Father" (notice the capital F) could very well be ceremonial, like a christfag would call god his Father. god didn't actually bone his mother though

>>170148649
That sounds exactly like a hateboner for DaS2, like the Anon way up the reply chain suggested.

>>170148368
he did say "roughly" though

>>170148687

there's also an item description on her item set, removed from the game, talking about her love for her brother.

I don't like the idea of her being gwyn's child but that's what the game is pointing to.

>>170148736

I have 100+ hours in DaS2, I think the story in the game is a mess, I think the character of aldia is lazy, and I don't want it touching what is supposedly the culmination of the series.

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>>170148649
>I hate a game in the series so much that any acknowledgement of it in a different game will make me unwilling to purchase it, even if the gameplay has little to nothing with the previous entry.

wew lad and you wonder why people dont take DaS2 haters seriously

>>170148649
So you actively avoid content just because it's Dark Souls 2 related without even knowing if it's good or bad and you want us to believe you're not actively repressing any connection Ds3 makes to Ds2 from your mind and trying to rationalize how Dark Soul 2 doesn't matter? Pathetic.

>>170145462
if you're going freide, start assassin and build like a dex class. use dex weapons until you reach friede. you can also use hidden body once you find orbeck to glide past most enemies

the crow quills you can also get early in the dlc make for a nice alt weapon

>>170148817
The face that dragon makes disturbs me immensely.

>>170147536
>windows fucks up
>blames dark souls 2

>>170148761
Roughly 0% is still 0%

>>170148765
>I don't want it touching what is supposedly the culmination of the series.

Well I'm sorry to tell you this but it's touching it whether you like it or not. Pretending TRC doesn't exist will not make it disappear, and if you treat the dlc this way then no wonder you go to such lengths to deny any Ds2 callbacks.

>>170148836
>>170148817

I'm not close to the only person with this sentiment and you may be blinded to this by the fact we're all posting in a thread specifically for talking about dark souls.

I didn't even bother buying DaS3 until just recently

>>170148765
yeah, her love for him is like a truck whatever. bit a) it's cut content and b) she still learnt all she knew from him. it's not such a reliable source of info when we know gwyn hated dragons so much that he disowned and exiled his alpha BAMF firstborn son for speaking for them. it would be a much smaller leap to assume yorshka is nk's daughter and gwyndolin saw something of himself in her, so he decided to hide her and protect her

>>170148554
>2fags still trying this hard to make their mediocre game relevant

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>>170148890
it gets even cringier if you read the original

>>170148560
If they found no flaw within the game, then they wouldn't have made a ton of Softs-specific gameplay changes and would've simply focused on graphical upgrades and packed the DLC in. Softs is the only rerelease that also included actual restructuring of the game as well as things that feel like an apology for shitty development like the Agape Ring which basically renders the Soul Memery system pointless but the fag devs didn't remove the crap system altogether like they should have.

>>170148943
Depending on how rough we're talking about. A general acceptable margin of error that is used in engineering is 5%

>>170148649

Earthen Peak is already known as an area of TRC, anon.

It probably has its own boss too.

>>170149031

it's part of the dreg heap retard, the boss of the area is the crimson bat, which you fight in the literal DaS1 firelink shrine.

>>170148953
How does the fact that there are other people that go to such lengths to hide from the fact Dark Souls 2 exists an excuse of the behavior? You people complain that others will defend a game due to buyers remorse and then go out and publicly announce you actively shut out any thoughts related to stuff you don't like and act as if that's a good thing. How do you take yourself seriously?

>>170148979
And then there's also the medium-sized leap where Yorshka is not Gwyn's nor the Firstborn's daughter at all and instead is the direct result of Gwyndolin having an affair with Priscilla and growing regretful of it afterwards.
I will bring up this goddamn theory every chance I can until either I die or Ringed City proves that it has no chance whatsoever of being true.

>>170149031
Earthen Peak boss is the Demon Prince.

>host summons 3 phantoms for dragonslayer armor
>they still die

Holy fuck I'm never saving sunlight medal grinding for late-ish game ever again, this is so slow.

>>170148981
>I dont have a counter argument so I'm just gonna be mad

I bet your butt clenched real tight when you saw lion knight albert as the first npc summon :^)

>>170149097
>>170149109

That's from a preview build. It very well could be its own area.

Even if not, it's still an apparently large area with its own enemies -- so, it's still there.

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>>170149007
Nope, the dead meme usage barely registers when close to that disturbing side glance.

>>170145859
>Sully
>Not a tree
Yeah, nah

>>170149180

>That's from a preview build.

no it wasn't. it was the full in-dev game. the people who played it literally said they were under NDA not to mention anything they may have seen after crimson bat.

>>170149104
not gonna say no, but it seems somewhat unlikely. however, it's hinted that gwyndolin probably knew where priscilla was. it's still a biggish leap to assume he could access the painting and he would fug priscilla

>>170148765
>I have 100+ hours in DaS2, I think the story in the game is a mess
the story is pretty straight forward which also killed epicnamebro and vardi since they couldnt insert their fanfics like they could in ds1

>>170149272

>the story is pretty straight forward

holy shit i think I had a stroke reading this

aldia lorebombing you in the apology remake that came out over a year after release doesn't count you know.

>>170149315
>it doesn't count because I say so

okay

>>170146227
Shit getting turned into dragons has nothing to do with Aldia?

>>170148460
But DaS1 was good and only had one DLC. And while DaS3 wasn't the super-amazing send off we were hoping for, it is passable.

>>170149358

when they literally have to remake the story to a game because it made no sense, no it does not fucking count.

>>170146227
Oh also Aldia existed in the lore before SOTFS, they just had to add him to game to explain shit to spastics like you

>>170149240
Well as the only ranking deity left in Anor Londo after it was abandoned he would certainly have knowledge of the guarded Painting right outside his chambers and what its function was.

And what better company for an abomination seemingly rejected by everyone and with no place in the world than another abomination seemingly rejected by everyone and with no place in the world? I know it's still a great leap, but hopefully we can agree that at the very least it's not as bad a lore development as Gwyn being the father.

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What are some weapons you want to see in the dlc but know you won't

Until the release of TRC we might as well call every previewed character Velka or Allfather Lloyd. We have a 0% chance of being right and we'll be disappointed anyway so I see no harm.

>>170149496
Loyce Greatsword or something that functions almost entirely the same.

>>170149430
see
>>170149471

>>170149496
Gravelord Sword.
Gravelord Halberd.
Gravelord Nito.
Gravelord Servants.
Gravelord.

>>170149315
>vendrick finds powerful souls
>builds kingdom
>undead curse happens
>kingdom goes kill
>bearer of the curse comes along
>collects powerful souls
>beats everyone
>gets to create his own kingdom on top or leave everything as it is
>cycle continues

the rest is just flavor to spice it up.

>>170149430
>remake

Didn't Aldia just add more lore to an already existing character rather than change the story? Pretty sure he doesn't affect the main story that much, he just gives you an extra option at the end.

>>170146624
What ring changes the buff appearance?

>>170126032
I wonder how he's connected to the DS3 Angels given that their wings have almost the same structure and use attacks of Butterflies.

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>>170149496
grape Popsicle was too good for this world and it's wielder is probably my favorite NPC in DaS2

>>170149603

nono no connection to seath, they are actually connected to aldia. you see pilgrim butterflies are on fire, just like aldia, and these angels are like the souls of these aldia butterflies or something

>>170149603
reused assets to save time and money.
you are free to insert your own fanfic

>>170149471
Were there any references whatsoever in the base game to Aldia and Vendrick being related?
It seems like pre-SotS Aldia was a much more vague concept of a character, to the point where going by item descriptions I really couldn't tell if Lord Aldia was even his name or just a title named after the region he ruled over.

>>170149620
>grape popsicle
>the chicken wing


Peopel who hate DaS2 are the embodiment of no fun allowed

>>170149620
Grape popsicle weilded by a blueberry that fires blackberries at you

>>170149496
To hell with weapons, just give me my Jester set back

why are there no muscular, burly, yet not fat body types for ds2? do japanese b-team game developers hate their scrawny bodies so much that they automatically equate muscles to fat?

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Worst NPC summon across all games?

>>170149683
They tell you he was Vendrick's brother before SotFS even came out iirc. He was also owner of Aldia's keep and had experiments and turning people into dragons shit going on. He basically was DaS2's Seath.

>>170149620
if we get it in the dlc i'll forgive miyazaki for almost everything.

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>>170148554
>entirety of lore of first half of TRC is about either 1 or 3 with such a laughable amount of DS2 it might be a simple reasoning to add fanservice set back
>DS2 faggots yet again jump to fanfiction just like they did when Ariandel trailer used the word "Forlorn"

>>170149178
>what is mockery?
anon, I just got here
I dont owe you any argument

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>>170149701
I really hope we get some references to the milfanito and nito in TRC

>>170149272
Epicnamebro worked on the guide of DS2 but he just couldn't give a shit about making lore vids especially when he hated DS2. Ask him about Dark Souls 2 some time and his reaction like that of a parent that has to explain their kid that they took the family dog "to a farm".

>>170149315
DaS2's story is pretty straight forward but compared to the other games it's paced really badly and they don't really start giving you any real story before the halfway point of the game.

>>170149752
Try Lautrec. He literally tries to parry Gaping Dragon's charge attack with his shitty dagger.

>>170149496
Forlorn GS
Anything red iron
Santier's
Yorgh's
Sacred Chime Hammer
Alonne Armor
Powerstanced Smelters
Puzzling Stone
Mytha's bent blade along with poison buff

>>170149816
I hope they never mention milfanito shit ang give Nito a normal lore this time.
Ghost army at the very least looks promising.

>>170149752
Sirris
She has DMB + Estoc and she still does like 20 damage

>>170149481
That doesn't mean he could get in or even knew how to. There is also the thing about dunnel. But who knows, Dunnel's wife was someone else or Priscy cheated on him. Maybe both the painter girl and yorshka are her daughters. But these are all stretches

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>>170149708
we can only hope